diff --git a/sci/15272623.txt b/sci/15272623.txt index ba2e997dbdb9692e3b9f4eae4c733b89a2c1d1bd..b07bbcc6f7d5c3240e1698814cc4ee6717e5e123 100644 --- a/sci/15272623.txt +++ b/sci/15272623.txt @@ -432,3 +432,8 @@ Lorenzo --- 15380615 >>15377955 Lorenzo has been dealt with it seems +--- 15383000 +Bump +--- 15384452 +>>15383000 +I’ll try to continue later today diff --git a/sci/15334386.txt b/sci/15334386.txt index 616f97e46c4c5ee5648bf54b1cd6e4c6ad72f208..8914b87a27fdc97fd598ab13f6f93e704251f0eb 100644 --- a/sci/15334386.txt +++ b/sci/15334386.txt @@ -272,3 +272,15 @@ economist here, have never used the word cybernetics before outside science fict You mean biotics, you dunce. Hint: intelligent people can deconstruct the essential meaning of words via their etymology. "Cybernetics" derives from something like "the study of steering (e.g. a ship)". I know do not have to explain the connection to systems. +--- 15383384 +>>15346951 +that sounds cool but i cant think of anything practical to do with it +--- 15383396 +>>15368563 +would cybernetics describe the pattern I think i notice where people who like lain also often ask for reading lists +--- 15383437 +>>15383384 +To be fair to them, I don't think cybernetics has any obligation to be practical as a discipline. Even something as vague and nebulous as "acquiring a better understanding of self-regulating systems" would still be immensely valuable, especially right now with large-scale artificial neural networks arriving to disrupt everyone's way of life as we know it. + +The damning part is their total silence: 60 years of "talking" (as the other anon puts it) since Wiener, yet they have nothing valuable to contribute on the matter, no new perspectives or insights, to the point that non-specialist "AI ethicists" are stepping up to speak and philosophize in their place. +Even disregarding the practical outcomes, in hindsight it seems like the insights that cybernetics was seeking would have been better acquired by studying a more concrete subject, like machine learning or adaptive networks (or even ethics, if your concern is with the human side of the system). diff --git a/sci/15337076.txt b/sci/15337076.txt index 7bae20e5ef65749af99a5485c09609abeeb17032..be6654511823a8a17068d3af17b0f7b0c40dbfe4 100644 --- a/sci/15337076.txt +++ b/sci/15337076.txt @@ -11,9 +11,6 @@ So he decided to change the historical record to create a narrative more suitabl data before adjustment --- 15337085 data after adjustment ---- 15337094 ->>15337084 -saved --- 15337098 >>15337094 --- 15337102 @@ -1373,3 +1370,6 @@ Many such cases >change the mean >deviation from the mean changes ZOMG ITS DA JOOS +--- 15382107 +>>15380465 +nobody mentioned jews except yourself diff --git a/sci/15340816.txt b/sci/15340816.txt index 63f7e541c73ebd0a1a266f46cab407a43ff3647f..e85dd40b23f090b7f1a3d4c3bfd83d93a7c20eeb 100644 --- a/sci/15340816.txt +++ b/sci/15340816.txt @@ -27,10 +27,6 @@ They "can't do it themselves" because we live in an increasingly atomized societ >engage in social constructivism based on anti-human principles >humans start disappearing ??? ---- 15341034 ->>15340816 (OP) -Humans have collective intelligence, individual intelligence is obsolete. -High IQ people can't relate to normal people and can't partake on the collective intelligence. --- 15341054 that's just cope. plenty of high IQ people have happy relationships. @@ -74,13 +70,6 @@ But your idea still works, if the problem is to build something that resembles a >>15341034 >High IQ people can't relate to normal people and can't partake on the collective intelligence. There is no such a thing. ---- 15341187 ->>15341179 -Humanity thinks collectively as an immortal organism with thousands of years of memory ---- 15341194 ->>15341075 ->combined intelligence of 10000 engineers can -Engineers dont exist in a vacuum, engineers have to be social people to even get along in school and work. A bunch of retards are not what defines human collective intelligence, but all billions of people and their memories over thousands of generations. Thats how computer chips came to be, not because some gigagenius sprung up from the ground with an idea --- 15341204 >>15341187 No. @@ -104,10 +93,6 @@ Virtually every bear has access to bear-like strength. How many men have access --- 15341293 >>15341215 Do you have any idea how retarded you actually are? ---- 15341297 ->>15341212 ->People only learn what people smarter than them came up with, and that's it. -A lot of dumb people can be smarter than single geniuses, as long as the work together which they do if they are friendly and sociable. --- 15341326 >>15341297 >A lot of dumb people can be smarter than single geniuses, @@ -115,14 +100,6 @@ No, they can't. It isn't just about thinkung faster or slower. A dumb person wil >as long as the work together which they do if they are friendly and sociable. Friendly and sociable people generally fail at cooperating. ---- 15341331 ->>15341326 ->A dumb person will never think on the level that smart people do. -Not a single person, collectively they can. Smart people dont think on their own, they are dependent on lots of things they learn from their society before they can make their "contribution". ---- 15341336 ->>15341326 ->Friendly and sociable people generally fail at cooperating. -Much less than hostile individualists like neanderthals whos knowledge often died with them --- 15341349 >>15341331 >Not a single person, collectively they can. @@ -1091,3 +1068,57 @@ They aren't. Nothing is novel about low birth rates. Big cities have had fertili --- 15379871 >>15340816 (OP) I've grown too powerful to fall for foids and their moneygrabbing schemes. +--- 15381402 +>>15373290 +>No, it's just that when you say "intelligent people are all married" you are actually talking about intelligent men. +No I am not, I actually have women in mind just as much, if not more, than men. All the high h-index women in my department are married. While all the low h-index, low IQ, eternal postdocs are catladies. For this reason I also strongly prefer working with other married people of all genders, they just have higher emotional intelligence, are more diligent and will actually see the collaboration through. + +>Intelligent women are statistically far less likely to get married. +Sounds like a huge cope. How many cats do you own? +--- 15381711 +>>15381402 +I know most people on 4chan are women, sweetie, but I'm actually a man. I'm not relying on personal experience but statistics. +--- 15381769 +>>15381711 +>but statistics. +Not trying to be confrontational, but what statistics? You have not posted anything like this. + +Logic would appear to match my observation. Intelligent women are able to find partners. Left-over incel women tend to fail in dating. +--- 15381814 +>>15340816 (OP) +If you're obsessed enough with your own intelligence to take an IQ test you're probably ngmi anyway. These articles are for lonely, misanthropic, gullible people who want to take the easy way out and fool themselves into believing the reason they're lonely is because of their 'high IQ' and not because they're just unfriendly or unlikeable. +--- 15381852 +>>15381769 +Rich nations have lower birthrates. + +K-selected are more picky. If you are high iq you probably have less viable options. Its simply a numbers game. People with average Iq are have more bell curve volume to choose from, whereas high iq's have to select from picky people. +--- 15382217 +>>15341006 +>high intelligence is more important than love. +No. Unironically study NDEs and realize that there actually is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. And NDErs talk about how the meaning of life is to learn to love and be kind and thrive here despite how hard it is in this world. They do not talk about how the meaning of life is to increase the intelligence level of humanity. In the NDE world where they have infinite intelligence, love is treated as the most important thing. + +>b-b-but NDEs are dreams or hallucinations somehow +Already explicitly refuted in the literature you likely have not read on NDEs. + +Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real: + +https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o [Embed] + +It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out: + +https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist + +>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"." + +Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison. + +Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE: + +>"I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved." +--- 15382235 +>>15382217 +t. archon slave +--- 15383106 +>>15381769 +>Intelligent women are able to find partners. Left-over incel women tend to fail in dating. +This is a tautology because you define intelligent women as those women who succeed in dating. This isn't logic. diff --git a/sci/15346155.txt b/sci/15346155.txt index f18ed0890f679fc9a769f9639c11d1a584c2a36a..e48c7589a59bca720558fed5888f808c2c0576a2 100644 --- a/sci/15346155.txt +++ b/sci/15346155.txt @@ -12,9 +12,6 @@ Worse, they are pirated paperbacks. He's so poor he cannot even afford the real >>15346155 (OP) >wide range of mathematics and physics textbooks, in addition to numerous works on philosophy and various scientific fields Why are you such a midwit? ---- 15346199 ->>15346155 (OP) -I used to but then i ran out of toilet paper. The average american use a roll a day --- 15346201 >>15346194 wtf are pirate paperbacks @@ -42,9 +39,6 @@ You're both retarded so it works out. Textbooks are trash tier shelf material --- 15346246 Who do some scientific authors insist on trying to be funny.? The amount of bad word-puns makes pic related almost unbearable to read. ---- 15346256 ->>15346232 -Make the classy choice --- 15346402 >>15346155 (OP) >Don't you want to follow in the footsteps of this esteemed physicist and Nobel laureate, Richard Feynman? @@ -301,3 +295,21 @@ My personal favorite is vol. 27 of brickonomics. It's where the discussions on advanced bricking start to brick with a load of technicalities. Very insightful. +--- 15381434 +>>15346155 (OP) +bump +--- 15381560 +>>15357634 +Mainstream medicine doesn't use the scientific method +--- 15381992 +>>15346232 +They're the only books with value tho +--- 15382001 +>>15369076 +"Wash Your Penis" is not a real book +--- 15382005 +>>15372244 +Actually based +--- 15384391 +>>15367450 +real classic right there diff --git a/sci/15347277.txt b/sci/15347277.txt index 41eb3d56c10d0bfcac603d7c75b550163acc9196..53b40f774109cc2c62ce378a2fc40b12460620bc 100644 --- a/sci/15347277.txt +++ b/sci/15347277.txt @@ -914,3 +914,118 @@ If you can't afford a visit because you live in some kind of dystopia without he >>15380316 >if you can't afford it, it doesn't exist s t o p +--- 15381265 +I do not eat much, sometimes I wake up in the morning and make my standard cup of tea. I usually drink a few and then eat later, but on some days after I drink the tea I start feeling very nauseas and get intense hunger pangs, the nausea grows and I keep burping and then I throw all the tea up. What causes this +--- 15381283 +>>15381265 +Your stomach is empty. With the cups of tea you're making your body prepare itself for a meal, because it's hungry and you've started ingested _something_. +Except it's just tea and no food. Your stomach fills up with acid, your gallblader and pancreas work for nothing, and you and up getting nausea because all that acid and gastric juices have to go somewhere. + +Just stop fucking doing that, and it'll get better. +Eat earlier, at the same time you drink your tea, for instance. +--- 15381292 +>>15381283 +Why do I throw it up though? It's mostly just water why can't it just go past my stomach. +Also sometimes I get these weird waves of radiating dull ache pains in my upper stomach, like right below my chest, is it because I drink too much tea? +--- 15381302 +>>15381292 +It's because after the tea goes through, your stomach starts pumping out shittons of acid. +Then you get acid reflux. + +For all I know, you might have a stomach ulcer at this point. You should first of all try to stop doing more damage, and second get an appt with a real doctor. +I'm just some dude on 4chan. +--- 15381310 +>>15381302 +So tea is not harmless after all. +--- 15381319 +>>15381310 +It could have been orange juice or cold water and you'd have had the same situation. +Your pattern of not eating for long periods, then confusing your GI system with fluids is the problem. +--- 15381341 +>>15366895 +i know a stoner that applied for a fellowship of oral surgery in Oklahoma, along with roughly 30 other blokes +They had to do slave labour for an entire year for the whole department and they ended up giving one (1) person the fellowship +--- 15381355 +>>15369747 +do you actually have to read it or can you simply pretend to have read it? If you cant find it then you can quote whatever you want from it since noone will be able to disprove what you make up +--- 15381460 +>>15377284 +>sleep fatigue being blocked +Stimulants make me sleepy and make my muscles relax in spite of increase in strength and delay in fatigue onset so I thought it's because adenosine 2 receptor blockade causes exitacion and rush of dopamine for decent amount of time with quick onset (especially if inhaled). +--- 15381923 +>>15379322 +Is there anything else going on? Have you had any recent head trauma? Have there been any changes to your vision. Double vision? Any other associated symptoms? +--- 15381967 +i had a surgery to straighten my knee where i had to wear an external fixator for 7 months the problem is there was something wrong with the screws or something so i couldn't bend my knee and couldn't really walk so i didn't walk at all for 7 months and did 0 pt and now that i just removed the device and in a brace for a month. + +i'm wondering how long will it take me to regain my strength to walk normally without pain?. +--- 15382554 +Best kinds of acid ranked: +- Deoxyribo nucleic +- Acetylsalicilic +- Lysergic +- Chloridric +--- 15383308 +>>15381923 + +I did hit my head a while back and I'm having vision problems. +--- 15383411 +>>15383308 +>vision problems +double vision in specific gazes (left/right/up/down/diagonals), decreased contrast, blue-yellow seems dimmer, red-green dimmer, pain on eye movement, etc? +--- 15383621 +>>15371104 +just start fasting lmao +--- 15383709 +Bros. I'm sick of being a doctor. I'm sick of all this multitasking shit, seeing 4 patients at once, one that i'm seeing, two that i'm being presented on the phone, and another arriving critical. + +I'm sick of all this shit game of guess, identify some bullshit and remember the answer, all there's to fucking do, and if I don't identify it because i don't know it, all is fucked. No one teaches me shit, i'm wasting my fucking time here, long hours shit pay, no weekends. And all the fucking deal is worthless if I decide to drop out. + +I've been fucking Shanghaied. What else do you call this shit? +--- 15383726 +>>15383709 +same but i'm also a 28 year old virgin w/ no relationships. i have nothing better to do if i'm honest. at least i'm presumably helping some people not die hopefully +--- 15383859 +>>15381355 +I want to find the paper so I can see what is actually written there, I don't fully trust the claims the author citing it makes about marriage practices in Japan they seem almost absurd (see point 154) +https://psychohistory.com/articles/the-universality-of-incest/ +I guess I could try their contact details if they still work. +I thought I could at least independently verify whether the paper exists first but I don't know how and the journal site doesn't list old contents pages. +--- 15383918 +how bad is med school in your cunt? +>6 years +>obligatory attendance lectures +>dress code +>obligatory period with teaching (i.e. TA) +>3 exams/orals per semester +>all professors are uppity high and almighty pricks +--- 15384285 +>>15347277 (OP) +I recently heard that dopamine is linked to schizophrenia, current doing some reading about it but I'm wondering if this is true does it mean schizos should avoid or seek out dopamine? +--- 15384394 +>>15384285 +It's "the dopamine hypothesis of schizophrenia", but anyone serious will tell you it's much, much more complicated than the old 'chemical imbalance' memes. +It's not as simple as too much or not enough dopamine. + +That being said, more dopamine generally means more symptoms in schizophrenia, and less dopamine less symptoms. +If you have no dopamine at all, you're basically paralyzed. Like a vegetable. Which definitely stops people from getting in trouble. +But again, it's way more complicated than that. +--- 15384399 +>>15384394 +I thought it probably would be a few years back I fell down some self improvement rabbit hole then noticed in one video it was telling me to take cold showers then in the next I need to dopamine detox painting it out like dopamine = bad - do you have any resources (books, videos, articles) you'd recommend? +--- 15384401 +>>15384285 +The chemical imbalance theory of mental illness is unsupported by any evidence. +Also paranoid schizophrenia according to psychotherapists is caused by demons. +--- 15384413 +>>15384399 +I'd recommend you treat 99% of those videos as pure scams, and just ignore them. +The truth is that nobody knows the truth, so all sorts of people with hot opinions feel free to make videos and shitty ebooks on a topic that nobody truly understand, since they know almost nobody will be able to call them out on their bullshit. + +If you want to be healthy, keep your body at homeostasis. Meaning balance, equilibrium. +Dopamine is not bad or good, it's a natural neurotransmitter your brain uses for a few different things, like encouraging actions, or giving you that rewarding feeling when you finish something. + +If you really want to learn, then you're in for many years of serious studying. 5 minute videos that try to boil things down to 'dopamine good' or 'dopamine bad'? Avoid that. +Those are a trap for easily influenced people who want to believe in miracle cures for complex problem. + +TL;DR: There's no simple satisfying answer. If you want answers anyways, your two choices are med school or deranged truther cults that will teach you the Secrets that They don't want you to know. diff --git a/sci/15347459.txt b/sci/15347459.txt index a97405c3f2d1cb0bfa76460290badb250d026b92..6299cdd9cf481d95d92168d3f73146ee16474522 100644 --- a/sci/15347459.txt +++ b/sci/15347459.txt @@ -346,3 +346,37 @@ Even einstein himself admits scientists are low iq --- 15380530 >>15379176 So you're saying that abusing the peer review system to silence dissent is equivalent to admitting that you have no rational basis to defend your point of view? +--- 15382176 +>>15364940 +--- 15382246 +>>15357263 +Peer review is useless and replication is necessary. If a study hasn't been peer reviewed but has been replicated, it's valid. If a study has been peer reviewed but hasn't been replicated, it's invalid. +--- 15382332 +>>15347476 +peer review is overrated. + +public review is what god intended. +--- 15382415 +>>15382246 +>>15382332 +These are both the best posts in the thread. +--- 15384149 +>>15382176 +Oh, so peer-review happened when the first wave of wokies hit the universities. +Makes sense. In a way. + +I mean, in the actual sciences, when someone writes absolute bullshit, you can simply ignore it, and it will do no harm. +Now, the humanities are thoroughly bullshit, but even regular people may start noticing that, when consistency gets even worse than it already is. +That must be prevented. For the public money must flow. For "justice". +--- 15384153 +>>15347459 (OP) +Tangential to this topic...why doesn't Google Scholar come up with a way for dealing with self-citation? It's so fucking obnoxious when you check someone's profile, you see that they have 1000 citations or whatever so you assume they must be hot shit, then you check who is citing their papers and like 90% of the citations are them or people you know they work with citing them +--- 15384398 +>>15347476 +>Why are schizos so terrified of the concept of peer review? +yeah, sure. it should be general public review, not peer review. +--- 15384407 +>>15384153 +the way forward is to shitcan citation index evaluation. it breeds all sorts of behavior usually characterizing online celebs. +>"then how do I know whom to trust hurr durr" +if you cannot determine which works have value from reading the work itself you have no business to be in science. diff --git a/sci/15349240.txt b/sci/15349240.txt index 6078bb091f50e0a58300a1228ffcd8b6b06bb7e2..a9355ad572d949648522f270f524549f2944466f 100644 --- a/sci/15349240.txt +++ b/sci/15349240.txt @@ -219,3 +219,7 @@ It's just a job. Banality of evil it is then. --- 15380518 >>15377960 +--- 15383580 +>>15351834 +>noaa.gov +soience shill organization run by and for political activists. if they say something is true then you know its a lie. diff --git a/sci/15351786.txt b/sci/15351786.txt index 767c519d384e57364673c224e6c9c913fbbcef46..287eff9878c7f3a2e009f8d2e4078901b38c4d29 100644 --- a/sci/15351786.txt +++ b/sci/15351786.txt @@ -185,3 +185,11 @@ Modern exercise bikes (stationary bikes) and treadmills have youtube, you can wa --- 15379922 >>15351786 (OP) Stealing this +--- 15382395 +>>15372710 +--- 15383253 +I have nothing againts physical activity but plenty of /lif/ people go on this very anoyying mood that if you need to lift and become a wanna be roider looking mf and go preaching around like JW fanatics +I personally just like swimming +and i dislike lifting if you like lifting thats cool bro keep going but dont go around preaching snd shitting on people that like other types of physical activities +>also +Be fat is indeed disgusting and there is no excuse to be fat diff --git a/sci/15353120.txt b/sci/15353120.txt index a74d530437bdb1c839f7646e055645f6981ce1f4..a6e78d3d7a0af91959a7f5e766811efd596f8b10 100644 --- a/sci/15353120.txt +++ b/sci/15353120.txt @@ -353,3 +353,39 @@ Alcoholics are prone to short bouts of euphoria, overly emotional, dumb, and agg >>15379792 >rewires your brain to become more narcissistic. all of the feel-good drugs do that. +--- 15382166 +>>15353120 (OP) +You can see the results on this board constantly. The cosmology discussion really shows off the lack of humility and reasonable self doubt particularly well. +--- 15383529 +>>15379792 +if they were bad then subsequent generations are worse + +>>15371513 +>They didn't name it the Iphone for no reason at all. +thing about what kind of people would attracted to a device with a name like that, the name is is a selling point to them +--- 15383544 +I have a different take on this. +The same amount of narcissists always existed. + +Its just every single one of them is drawn to social media like flies to shit so there seems more of them. +100% of narcissists vs 50% of everyone else makes it seem like their is more narcissists than before. + +Take video games for example. A group of people stream and a group of people min max. Those are the narcicists. +But a fuckload of people also play the games doing none of those things. + +Imagine investing 100s of hours into a 20 year old mmorpg like world or warcraft just because you believe you are better than others and need to prove it. + +Stop going to tik tok, instagram, twitch etc and the world will go back to seeming normal. +--- 15383592 +>>15380514 +>feel-good drugs +what are the feel good drugs? cocaine and opiates obviously. +they psychedelics don't seem to fit that definition +marijuana feels good but it also makes you more introspective (to the point of paranoia in some cases). introspection is not a characteristic of narcissists. +--- 15383606 +>>15383592 +introspection under the influence of feel-good drugs is just navel gazing. +>immmaaaa gooooonna introoooooosspeeecccttt!! +--- 15383978 +>>15382166 +The amount of know-it-alls in any discipline is inversely proportional to the usefulness of the discipline. Pomposity is a coping mechanism as well as a tip-off of self-induced insecurity. diff --git a/sci/15354724.txt b/sci/15354724.txt index cb6838e1da7c6c954eda78fbfecfcbbe4fdd5dd3..411630eaf952c122aa6d85e84df4d71448d4a76b 100644 --- a/sci/15354724.txt +++ b/sci/15354724.txt @@ -247,3 +247,8 @@ Fuck I had forgotten all about that.. Literally lol'd just thinking about it. Th --- 15380488 >>15377567 epic +--- 15382598 +>>15354814 +Nice. +--- 15383602 +>>15372076 diff --git a/sci/15357012.txt b/sci/15357012.txt index 7f2680952886d641ba47eda029818d7e41556265..fcebcc279d56001ad8862ba049fdd2f4d4c00901 100644 --- a/sci/15357012.txt +++ b/sci/15357012.txt @@ -10,9 +10,6 @@ It was robust, and kind of hilarious. “I do sort of remember the vibe being li 4chin --- 15357030 Are people that eat ice cream simply happier? ---- 15357167 ->>15357012 (OP) ->Robust statistically irrelevant findings however with a novel data processing algorithm.. --- 15357185 >>15357012 (OP) Ray Peat has been an advocate for eating ice cream for health for decades. @@ -112,3 +109,29 @@ Was it Vanilla icecream exclusively or did they have options? Saturated fat is healthy. Sugar is ok so long as you are metabolically healthy. No surprise here. I've been eating ice cream frequently since I learned about the fat swindle +--- 15382114 +>>15373444 +Why does it trigger you? Seems like something pretty benign to chimp out over +--- 15382123 +>>15380527 +Regulatory capture. +--- 15383716 +That Atlantic article is amazing. The amount of confirmation bias employed by the scientists overwhelmed the experimental results they were seeing for over 20 years. Why were they even bothering to gather data if their only reaction was predetermined to be +>This is bullshit, ice cream cannot be good for you +Dispels the myth of the objective scientist completely +--- 15383810 +>>15380893 +All the ice creams at my grocery store are filled with various forms of goyslop. i need to find a better source +--- 15383951 +>>15383810 +You can get a used pro ice cream maker are you local restaurant supply shop pretty cheap. They're not too big, about the size of a toaster & you have total control that way. +--- 15384175 +>>15383951 +If you know more about brands and models, I'd love to hear it, I'm all for this +--- 15384215 +>>15357012 (OP) +>an article among the zog-verified Science™ articles in defense of dairy products +>good +>talks about icecream + +The niggerification of the world is almost complete. diff --git a/sci/15357632.txt b/sci/15357632.txt index aa947121e12e57e5b3c891bfcc33d9f765174047..f64712402f20a1f0c32ae6f32ff6b1fe11dc543b 100644 --- a/sci/15357632.txt +++ b/sci/15357632.txt @@ -954,3 +954,7 @@ The electricity got so expensive in some places that pic is already nearly cheap --- 15380636 >>15359446 Bruh, what are you doing with me bot icon? +--- 15383693 +>>15359573 +>ukrainians are paying the price. +Have they admitted that attempting to ethnically cleanse the eastern part of their country was a mistake yet? diff --git a/sci/15359260.txt b/sci/15359260.txt index d8235b9c1283f7219034c597e02c56641c1c2387..0a30f085aef4b08d218b94264994af0c6fdc28cb 100644 --- a/sci/15359260.txt +++ b/sci/15359260.txt @@ -394,3 +394,88 @@ Spike proteins really seem to be bad. I'm glad getting exposed to the virus itse --- 15380782 >>15380776 bud its been three fucking years since covid started. vaxxed unvaxxed partially vaxxed whatever we've all been exposed, multiple times already. booster uptake rates are abysmally low. vaccine hesitancy is increasingly high. you are farting in the wind +--- 15380947 +>>15359260 (OP) +reminder: this guy is a nurse, not a doctor, no a biologist. +--- 15380950 +>>15380947 +Nursing professor, he's the uber nurse. +--- 15380973 +>>15380947 +>no a biologist +lol you're a retard +--- 15381000 +>>15380947 +ok? +--- 15381027 +>>15380776 +Quantity matters. Location matters. +--- 15381035 +>>15380776 +localised to lungs, vs directly into your bloodstream +--- 15381065 +>>15381027 +Yes which is why the vaccine is better than the virus +>>15381035 +Viruses cross the lung-blood barrier quite easy with their size desu +--- 15381116 +WEAR THE MASK +STAY INDOORS +GET THE JAB +2 MORE WEEKS +--- 15381121 +>>15381116 +Trust the science you incel chud +--- 15381237 +>>15359260 (OP) +>>15380947 +have another reminder: this guy does NOT say that vaccines are themselves the problem, is the bad applicatoin of them what causes these side effects + +>>15381000 +he can only read papers made by other people or hear the experiences other people had and assume they are speaking in good faith +--- 15381258 +>>15359260 (OP) +I am triple vaxxed and have covid brain fog. I want you to learn from my example and realize that no matter what you do, youre all fucked +--- 15381275 +>>15381237 +so he doesn't touch the data on lethal bath records? +--- 15381307 +>>15381258 +>covid brain fog +>He doesn't know the LNP cross the brain barrier +AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA +--- 15381338 +>>15381275 +*batch +bad batch records +--- 15381604 +>>15381258 +Oh cattle. +My dear, dear cattle, the vaccine is safe and effective. + + +Safe because you need to inject yourself to be affected. +And effective because you'll be dead by 2025, just like deagel's 2015 world pop forecast planned. +--- 15382158 +>>15381275 +?? those things might be seen as orthogonal if the bad record are actually caused by the bad applications. +anyway, you should look for the videos where he says bad technique by nurses are what probably causes second effects after vaxxing. he says they need to do somethinf called "aspiration". too lazy to find them now, but there are multiple, from at least a year ago IIRC. here's one: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1oAVHhDt2A [Embed] +--- 15382750 +>>15381065 +when does the vaccine stop making your body produce spike proteins? +--- 15382775 +>>15376779 +trust the vax +2 more red deers +--- 15382899 +>>15379416 +>anti vaxx retards are some of the most easily manipulated people on the fucking planet + +Vaxxies literally got manipulated into taking a shady death shot over a rebranded flu virus. GG. +--- 15382908 +>>15359260 (OP) +What he's not mentioning is the chance of this happening is 8 out of 1,000,000. +--- 15382964 +>>15382908 +still not taking it diff --git a/sci/15361269.txt b/sci/15361269.txt index a3ecffbff7ff3bbcfa810460fac1460a6e73afae..b70adda134f3749394566b9b4dd10ebfd4565cca 100644 --- a/sci/15361269.txt +++ b/sci/15361269.txt @@ -207,3 +207,5 @@ yeah its time for you to get another booster --- 15380534 >>15364792 Avoiding doctors is a life extension technique +--- 15383582 +>>15361269 (OP) diff --git a/sci/15364585.txt b/sci/15364585.txt index 916e3ec6174658cccddc62e1c4a065efad96982f..cf5efd70a76cf10022fc1262630486cd8cdda74c 100644 --- a/sci/15364585.txt +++ b/sci/15364585.txt @@ -239,3 +239,16 @@ They are trying to reclaim a little bit of Doggerland, the dry land bridge betwe >>15366717 >USA - measured >Latin America, Southeast Asia, Africa: no recorded data, graph modeled +--- 15383576 +>>15364585 (OP) +picrel is global warming propaganda from about 15 year ago. +--- 15383607 +>>15383576 +Uhhhh Denmarkbros? +--- 15383653 +>>15383576 +world would be a better place if it were real +--- 15384228 +>>15367207 +>You're conspiracy theories +no, we are not. otoh learn to fucking spell before you dare voice an opinion on the Internet. diff --git a/sci/15364741.txt b/sci/15364741.txt index 40e77e1d65fc132b29d4914c3e33b5692e158215..662f23c48964bc5f29fcc317af988f5ed1af6d01 100644 --- a/sci/15364741.txt +++ b/sci/15364741.txt @@ -550,3 +550,48 @@ Blue Eisenhower November --- 15380422 >>15364741 (OP) 42 +--- 15382951 +>>15364741 (OP) +soul and consciousness don't exist. +--- 15383725 +>>15364741 (OP) +>How do I answer the hard problem of consciousness on 4chan +--- 15383808 +>>15366195 +>So more than the average NPC with constant inner monologue. +Fixed. +Inner monologue being the essence of oneself the very most midwit permutation of the human spirit. To anyone higher than midwit mountain, inner monologue is just a tool like any other. It does not define them to an almost comical level. +--- 15384297 +>>15367329 +why wouldn't this work? +--- 15384319 +>>15367329 +>>15384297 +I don’t get it +--- 15384337 +>>15384319 +i guess there are multiple layers to it +>How would the face know the minimum configuration for happiness? +>Would I want this to happen when I was the only person that wasn't "reconfigured"? +>Is it ethically to kill everybody on planet earth to maximize happiness? +>What could a "minimum entity that experiences happiness" possibly look like? +--- 15384340 +>>15364741 (OP) +I think everything has a consciousness but you need enough complexity + some structured quantum states to be expressed. +--- 15384355 +>>15384340 +>to be expressed +And at what scale, what complexity, does that happen and to which it does not? +--- 15384364 +>>15384355 +I think it's on a spectrum and it's not a switch. A dog has expressed consciousness but it's 1/10 of human's. A skink has expressed consciousness but it's 1/10 of dog's. +--- 15384390 +>>15384364 +>I think it's on a spectrum and it's not a switch. +Vertically? I see it laterally as well; drooling_wojak.jpg +>A dog has expressed consciousness but it's 1/10 of human's +"Exressed", that word again..."fit my measure or youre not conscious". Literally what every IQ thread here boils down to. That Atom in my previous post expressed a shape, the same shape a flower and clouds on Jupiter did. + +Does this person "express" the shape or is it different because it uses English to say "I'm conscious."? +--- 15384396 +"Dude cant even order a pizza over the phone! What an idiot!" diff --git a/sci/15365235.txt b/sci/15365235.txt index b2c9a7c01754056e37d14f33c132c38da67ef11e..3525c5862b4be3be9551d26a81eb19680ff4678e 100644 --- a/sci/15365235.txt +++ b/sci/15365235.txt @@ -290,3 +290,26 @@ Do you claim that the picrel is not reality, but a picture that I'm projecting l --- 15380683 >>15366830 More space :) +--- 15381927 +>>15365235 (OP) +>The universe is made +--- 15382543 +>>15380549 +>>15380569 +I don't think picrel is reality. Reality is similar, but not the same. Anatomical drawings and math could be reality. The drawings definitely should be. I also don't see or hear things that others don't see or hear. I only believed that things weren't language. I don't think the difference is blurry. It's not an impoverished idea of what a tree really is. Perception, reality, and the tree are all language. They are not representative of something that breaks this rule. If that's not all a watermelon is, then it is also what you tasted. +--- 15382609 +>>15380446 +idk if i put my hand on a hot stove seems like there's unfortunately a lot of perception that isn't just language, +unless you're trying to suggest that in an abstract sense any perception can be represented as language +--- 15382692 +>>15382609 +it may seem that way, but your perception really is language. saying it's 'just language' is misleading because that implies that there's something else it could be. any perception doesn't have to be represented as language because it already is language. you can represent it using more language tough. +--- 15384251 +>>15382543 +Representing reality is not only about physical accuracy. A drawing of Greta Thunberg looking like a demon may be more realistic than a photo. Without seeing what the eyes can't see we are handicapped, vulnerable and prey to deceptive predators like politicians. +>>15382692 +>but your perception really is language. +You're playing a game here. First you define everything as X. Then you respond to any nuance with that is also X. Everything is mother. What about your father? Father is also an appearance of mother. It's senseless to debate such an irrefutable claim. +--- 15384386 +>>15384251 +I agree that it's not only about physical accuracy. I definitely do not agree that Greta Thunberg demon form is realistic. It's an irrefutable claim because it's true. Your comparison is not the same. diff --git a/sci/15365487.txt b/sci/15365487.txt index 8975d1fa81d048c775320fcd0feeae9ad1fd892f..61b1008d5d3329ed53c198f40a90edff480eca55 100644 --- a/sci/15365487.txt +++ b/sci/15365487.txt @@ -211,3 +211,77 @@ I guess a plant happened to have leaves, and there was a mantis that happened to >The most widely accepted model used to explain the evolution of mimicry in butterflies is the two-step hypothesis. The first step involves mutation in modifier genes that regulate a complex cluster of linked genes that cause large changes in morphology. The second step consists of selections on genes with smaller phenotypic effects, creating an increasingly close resemblance. This model is supported by empirical evidence that suggests that a few single point mutations cause large phenotypic effects, while numerous others produce smaller effects. Some regulatory elements collaborate to form a supergene for the development of butterfly color patterns. The model is supported by computational simulations of population genetics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimicry#Evolution +--- 15380951 +>>15378669 +>It would take at least 2 trillion years for that leaf bug to evolve +Where did you come up with this number? That is retarded +--- 15382576 +>>15380951 +>the number +>That is retarded +The number is for illustrative purposes only +It highlights the fact the the assumption of "neo Darwinian evolutionary origins of species" is conjecture. If I'm required to prove it takes 2 trillion years then you are required to prove it takes 2 billion years (give or take). +No one has done this and relying on the fossil record is a logical fallacy as I described above. +Hence, an evolutionary origins of species belief is not scientific. It is in fact religious in nature. Simple as. +--- 15382924 +>>15370357 +Literally me +--- 15382993 +>>15382576 +We artificially select for variations in plants and animals all the time. The only difference here is that it's a natural selection that the less the bug passes for a leaf the more apt it is to be eaten before it breeds. It's not even macro evolution we're talking about, this is akin to breeding, which no one in their right mind denies is a thing. +--- 15383094 +>>15365487 (OP) +Survival of the leafiest. +--- 15383192 +>>15382576 +>relying on the fossil record is a logical fallacy as I described above +Yup, he’s retarded +--- 15383828 +>>15365549 +>another American seething over Maple Syrup supremacy +--- 15383860 +>>15383192 +>the foot print at the crime scene is proof the foot print was made by a man +>the fossil record is proof the fossil record was made by evolutionary mechanisms +>I am so low IQ and so hopelessly blinded by my evolutionism religiosity I legitimately cannot see the blatant question begging fallacy made with these claims +Yep, you're retarded +--- 15383880 +>>15382993 +>We artificially select for variations in plants and animals all the time +>The only difference here is that it's a natural selection that the less the bug passes for a leaf the more apt it is to be eaten before it breeds +>gives amateur explanation of evolution I clearly am well aware of +We cannot make bugs look like plants via artificial selection. That is your wishful thinking because it needs to be true according to your narrative. Of course, you handwave this issue because your faith-based belief is if we just have enough "muh really really long timespans but ackshully I can't define how long, it's just long okay" we *could* do it. +It's pure religious cult like thinking: belief in something you've never proven or observed. Nothing more. +>It's not even macro evolution +I'm clearly talking about the alleged "evolutionary origin of species" +That's kinda why I used that exact phrase... +>this is akin to breeding +No, it's not. Dog breeding does not require mutations. It's simply pairing different pre-existing genes/traits. To make a bug look like a leaf would require new mutations. It cannot be done by just selecting currently-existing traits so it is not akin to breeding. +--- 15383896 +>evolution never happened. God made life! +>how did he make life +>he just did, okay? +--- 15383900 +>>15383896 +--- 15383916 +>>15383880 +>Dog breeding does not require mutations. It's simply pairing different pre-existing genes/traits +it's like saying that you can erase genes but you can't make new ones, at this point it's a miracle you're not extinct, but i guess you're correct, god farted and created everything. +--- 15383967 +>>15383916 +>it's like saying that you can erase genes but you can't make new ones +I said it's not required. "New" genes (ie damged copies of other genes) are used in dog breeding all the time, but they aren't required. You should read more carefully. +Most people dont realize this but there is no dog breed that outperforms wolves in any characteristic. The dogs bred for the fastest speeds are still slower than the wolf ancestors they were bred from, the dogs bred for the best tracking have less olfactory ability than the wolf ancestors they were bred from etc. +There are no "new" genes that are better than the originals. +Pic related. All dogs are just wolves with damaged "new" genes that retard or remove aspects from the original design like shrinking the snout or removing the saggital crest. +We can never improve the design of the original wolf by selective breeding. +>but i guess you're correct +Of course I am. +>god farted and created everything +Intelligent design does not imply God. Don't be a simpleton. +--- 15383969 +>>15383900 +That meme doesn't make sense.. Evolution never creates life. +--- 15383971 +>>15367374 +It would be very painful. diff --git a/sci/15365807.txt b/sci/15365807.txt index 7df95e8247e9dcb735a96756ba2ec9a87eabc7f5..e0ebeab864d981e625128cff96a877f94b18a980 100644 --- a/sci/15365807.txt +++ b/sci/15365807.txt @@ -232,3 +232,54 @@ I’m also interested, I’m confused at how everything has gravity --- 15380310 >>15372318 You only exist in my head +--- 15381807 +>>15376092 +Mass literally shows up in the Lagrangians in QFT in precisely the same definition as classical physics/SR rest mass. + +It is only in GR where it disappears in fundamental equations. GR also happens to be pathetically inaccurate while QFT us the most precisely validated theory in all of Physics. + +You're spewing schizo shit as I said. Just you didn't think that respected textbook authors are just as schizo as you. +--- 15381861 +>>15365887 +alright but instead of the equation acceleration=force/mass can you rewrite the equation without mass +--- 15381909 +>>15365807 (OP) +[math] m=\frac{|\Sigma\vec{F}|}{|\vec{a}|}[/math] +--- 15381939 +>>15365807 (OP) +Quantity of matter. +--- 15381979 +>>15381807 +I'm not spewing schizo shit, I am just more knowledgeable than you are. The mass that appears in Lagrangians in QFT ends up being the rest energy in the frame in which the particle has no momentum, exactly like I said. (Strictly speaking the physical mass is corrected compared to the parameter in the Lagrangian in interacting theories, but this is beside the point). +--- 15382003 +>>15381939 +>Quantity of matter. +What the fuck is matter? +--- 15382592 +>>15381807 +>t +>GR Pathetically Inaccurate +spacetime/mass-energy equivalence were much more significant discoveries than "the cat is alive/the cat is not alive at the same time" +--- 15382945 +>>15382003 +The receptacle of form. +--- 15383266 +>>15381807 +>GR also happens to be pathetically inaccurate +It is literally the only reason you are shitposting on this website, it perfectly explains length contraction and time dilation +--- 15383702 +>>15365887 +Space and time are still very separate things, dipshit, because one dimension is non-spatial and an automorphism between spatial and temporal dimensions can not be shown to exist. +--- 15383735 +>>15382003 +Anything made of particles that are subject to the Pauli exclusion principle. +--- 15384332 +>>15381979 +>Lagrangians in QFT ends up being the rest energy in the frame in which the particle has no momentum +Again, define "energy" without using "mass" or "charge". Energy is not a fundamental quantity. + +>>15382592 +Weird schizo babble, not going to address this. Conservation laws are much older than GR. + +>>15383266 +You're thinking of SR, _not_ GR, and contrary to popular belief it's not actually used in the end despite being taught to aerospace engineering undergrads. This myth is propogated by academic Physicists who don't know how the FFTs in predictive control works. They confuse predictive Smith correctors for SR which would not actually work as a corrective model. Satellites are far more robust than that. diff --git a/sci/15366531.txt b/sci/15366531.txt index 1ae984f09b3a75e045661fa440f8451eeabc7200..27f84fdeb93cf69978ef87e184f5c209a677b55f 100644 --- a/sci/15366531.txt +++ b/sci/15366531.txt @@ -101,3 +101,6 @@ she could've spent the money planting tree, but instead chose fancy chairs. euro >stop eating fish >stop eating all from a bunch of liars who claimed the world was going to drop dead from global warming 20 years ago. we never should've let them end whaling, their demands are endless +--- 15382124 +>>15380482 +Not only that, but whale is delicious. diff --git a/sci/15367481.txt b/sci/15367481.txt index e4a95a523851ae037eca917572a4b4a71811bf2e..99e31912a0de9a343c739e0515a3c1e4d7eca626 100644 --- a/sci/15367481.txt +++ b/sci/15367481.txt @@ -632,3 +632,48 @@ retard_wojak_squarepeg_roundhole.jpg --- 15380874 >>15380774 Some good shit in here, too bad the book is like $170. +--- 15380958 +>>15368015 +A pill can radically alter and change your life. Some are strong enough to undo bad habits like pornography use. You write like you're low IQ. +--- 15380977 +>>15380958 +>pornography use +HER. CHOICE. YOUR. LIFE. +>just slay puss [[[bro]]] +Not interested. +--- 15382132 +>>15368050 +Yeah but they're more successful than you. +--- 15382763 +>cult of passion +This fucking guy. Would kek if i was in the mood. + +Really hope it's chatgpt. +--- 15382780 +>>15382763 +I'm certain its a bot at this point +--- 15382784 +Alright kids, thanks for nothing I guess, im muting this thread and moving on since it got derailed by this chatgpt bot/ or schizo whatever the fuck it is. +--- 15382808 +>>15382784 +There was some serious responses.... +--- 15383202 +>>15368377 +Not him but you just revealed to everyone that you are delusional, brutal. Imagine self-owning yourself that hard. +--- 15383211 +>>15383202 +>I feel this way about you. +Your father is embarrassed or needs a beating. + +>>15382763 +Post anything of value. + +>>15382784 +>I dont wanna talk the origins of cognition, biochemistry, I want to talk about "Wouldnt it be cool?!" + +Yeah...GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD, TOURISTS. +--- 15383898 +>>15383211 +>post anything of value + +AI INCAPABLE OF EXPERIENCING BEAUTY CONFIRMED diff --git a/sci/15368528.txt b/sci/15368528.txt index 08472606414cf2c994e5998193592eb5a09d4dfa..70859df943ac902bfb4a40ec4507b86c9bfb8643 100644 --- a/sci/15368528.txt +++ b/sci/15368528.txt @@ -346,3 +346,56 @@ Animal testing is demented >>15380113 >i am the savior of the precious animals you're a misanthrope who hates everyone but yourself AKA a narcissist +--- 15382175 +>>15380551 +Growth monger psychos are the real misanthropes. +Their insatiable gluttonous consumerism will inevitably lead to extinction. +--- 15382194 +>>15368528 (OP) +Reminder, people fought years to get vaccine side effects listed and told to public but now Biden admin has made it illegal for anyone to say any vaccine side effects. +--- 15383084 +>>15382194 +It's illegal now? +--- 15383110 +>>15382194 +you are going to get the fucking vaccine whether you like it or not, lol. you really think you got away with covid? we are going to get your ass with bird flu, or whichever pandemic is next. you, your chud parents who gave birth to the waste of life which is you, your grandparents, your kids if your incel ass managed to have any, theyre all getting rounded up into camps and injected, whether you like it or not. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. you will have no say in the matter. you thought you were so clever? you thought you were so wise and rebellious and free thinking? we are going to get you. and you know it. theres nowhere to run any more. +--- 15383566 +>>15382194 +Just get the vaccine already. Billions of people got it. Nobody is dying. Those are the facts, stop whining now. +--- 15383664 +>>15382175 +>t. consumer of a dozen worthless boosters & 9001 masks +--- 15383910 +>>15383664 +Try again fuckwit. +I hate the government. It's full of shit. +Mainly because it's primary purpose is to serve bloated clowntard parasites like you your earth destroying corporate goyslop. +--- 15383914 +>>15383910 +>reeeeee i hate trucks +jealousy +you're just too lazy & worthles to earn the scratch needed to buy one. maybe daddy will buy you a car once hes done paying for your adult daycare at university +--- 15383925 +>>15383914 +youre fucking retarded +i might as well be jealous of the size of turds this fucking cow (your mom) produces +there is nothing honourable or cool about gluttony +--- 15383950 +>>15383925 +ok but im still not taking the vaccine. try a different angle next time +--- 15383973 +>>15368585 +--- 15384010 +>>15369484 +>Cool edit element instead of a simple link, +NTA but your insane denial was irking me. Here's a link you coping faggot +https://web.archive.org/web/20210825040809/https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download + +Of course newer versions of that FDA link have scrubbed all mention of two legally distinct drugs, textbook gaslighting. + +I've noticed you moved on from this and created a new line of cope saying it's the same formulation so totes doesn't matter what anybody says anyway. That is pure sheeple thinking. Anyone who takes the BS statement "it's the same formulation but actually it's different in a way we won't tell you but trust us it's still SAFE AND EFFECTIVE™" at face value is a fool. + +Go ahead. Say "same but with differences" is an acceptable phrase. We need to be shown just how much of an NPC sheeple you really are. +--- 15384155 +>>15384010 +shut the fuck up retard, billions of people got the vaccine, noone died. get the vaccine already. retard diff --git a/sci/15369174.txt b/sci/15369174.txt index 399f62af5fc99225b866c539a324c86e5df19509..d1c5935149a4908656063d65b7e86c62c8e93295 100644 --- a/sci/15369174.txt +++ b/sci/15369174.txt @@ -124,3 +124,6 @@ in some aspects i agree that they can be religion of stiff-necked spergs --- 15380912 >>15369174 (OP) Why do so many physicists think they're qualified to talk about physics? +--- 15382659 +>>15369174 (OP) +Many fields are simply Applied Physics. diff --git a/sci/15369462.txt b/sci/15369462.txt index 27ceb49bc2ff5a8f9b513f8a411c58849ac3228c..1362618464a371820f663c7320ec38f255999759 100644 --- a/sci/15369462.txt +++ b/sci/15369462.txt @@ -252,3 +252,23 @@ You should be telling that to the authors of those papers non-replicable = non-science --- 15380317 the so-called cosmic background radiation is really just the heat signature of the milky way's dark matter halo. it is not cosmic in origin, it is local +--- 15381519 +I wish I could find a woman as cute as Ghislaine. +(not the pedo/jew part or whatever) +--- 15383671 +>>15380317 +That seem like a more reasonable explanation than "the big bang" AKA "The Book of Genesis for Atheists" +At least theres evidence that dark matter actually exists. "The big bang" is just a soience fairy tale +>one day, for no reason at all, the universe started +--- 15383932 +>>15380317 +Nope. The SZ proves it's not local. Read the thread. +>>15369510 +--- 15383999 +>>15369462 (OP) +>Cosmic microwave background radiation proven fake +>in a youtube video +as if you were targeting the illiterate. +--- 15384013 +>>15383999 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZDyzPqnT4 [Embed] diff --git a/sci/15369501.txt b/sci/15369501.txt index 113a1fbc04b910f43299c5fb9b3bf7f80732102f..10617dd577358d8835a1f5e63efb11966470bee4 100644 --- a/sci/15369501.txt +++ b/sci/15369501.txt @@ -95,3 +95,6 @@ This. You can't make mercury expand more with less heat. It's all based on physi --- 15380508 >>15378021 They could easily just print the wrong scale on the glass +--- 15383076 +>>15380508 +That's stupid because it would be easily identifiable as a mislabeled instrument by comparison with other instruments, purely by its physical appearance. diff --git a/sci/15369530.txt b/sci/15369530.txt index e3051803fe2f8ac549fb255ed4ca9700a4276ac4..f37280f3433987b765ffaa32a4288d67e4fdea76 100644 --- a/sci/15369530.txt +++ b/sci/15369530.txt @@ -76,9 +76,6 @@ And so do the natives what? Finish your thought. What labor shortage? So if I open a McDonalds sbould we allow 8 Mexicans to jump over? We have the highest rate of non-US born people in this country for all time and we still haven't fixed the "labor shortage" --- 15372959 >>15369597 ---- 15378597 ->>15369841 -So what makes an immigrant bad if you say they are bad no matter what they do? --- 15378737 >>15369530 (OP) >Who was in the wrong here? @@ -110,3 +107,37 @@ Real income has been on the decline since 1970. --- 15379436 >>15379434 PPP too. Every metric that counts basically. +--- 15381783 +>>15379434 +Cope, econlet. +--- 15381817 +>>15369536 +Depends on what perspective you take fren. +--- 15381821 +>>15369621 +>they bought everything in the world with fake money +And this is dumb to you? Nice spin. +--- 15381837 +>>15381783 +lmao. +GDP is just a number that goes up by spending money literally. +And you would have to be a retard to not understand the 90s were better than the 2010 and on. +I mean, you would have to be an ABSOLUTE fucking retard to believe that seriously. Are you perhaps 22 years old? +--- 15382321 +>>15381837 +>GDP is just a number that goes up by spending money literally +Yeah, and if you adjust for inflation, you see that tax revenue has grown because the economy has too. Econ activity can be increased by gov spending, no shit, but the money can't be printed out of thin air with no consequence to purchasing power. +--- 15382441 +>>15382321 +>but the money can't be printed out of thin air with no consequence to purchasing power. +Hmmm... +I wonder if any consequences to purchasing power have occurred lately now that more dollars have been printed in 2 years than in the entire history of the country prior... +--- 15382480 +>>15379169 +Their uncaring attitude shows lower emotional intelligence. +--- 15382499 +>>15379169 +curious +--- 15382529 +>>15382441 +There are retards like you who have no idea that adjusting for purchasing power accounts for money printing? Neat. diff --git a/sci/15370375.txt b/sci/15370375.txt index b064a353a15d5cb4371624b74f33bf67d72b24ad..85d1e16280f1cfd66b9d89391e23cd8b90d51c88 100644 --- a/sci/15370375.txt +++ b/sci/15370375.txt @@ -331,3 +331,43 @@ you'd probably end up embittered and angry and seeking revenge on humanity too i --- 15380592 >>15370375 (OP) Eat what makes you happy and don't get fat. +--- 15381358 +>>15375035 +You are not answering the question, you are just speculating, no one has ever said there's only one way to get or cause to heart disease, high cholesterol just happens to be the one main reason behind it which has time and time again been proven through multiple means in genetical studies, observational studies, clinical studies etc... +--- 15382504 +>>15381358 +Do you know how the heart works? +The same blood flows through your whole body, yet nobody ever had a +>spleen attack +>liver attack +>kidney attack + +Even though thay all have arteries. +Only the hart has a "attack" and wierdly the minority of heart attacks show any correlation to blockage due to cholesterol induced plaques. + +Your heart is regulated by nerves. +If you have a nerve damage, your para sympathetic nervoussystem can crash and contracts your heart, and you suffer a heart attack. + +Thats why certain neurotoxic drugs and poisons cause heart attacks. + +This whole cholesterol shit is a meme. +Literally your whole body and hormones require cholesterol to be built. +Even vitamin D is made from cholesterol. +--- 15383300 +>>15372647 +--- 15384144 +>hey goy, stop eating food +>hey goy stop drinking water +>hey goy stop breathing air +>hey goy you're ruining my planet +this characteristic semitic behavior is the only evidence that makes the holohoax narrative slightly believable +--- 15384260 +>>15382504 +Your body produces all the cholesterol you need already. You are dodging and not saying anything, you are just spitting mechanistic speculation that has no basis in reality. +>minority of heart attacks are due to cholesterol blockage +This is an empirical claim, do you have evidence of that +Anyway, reality is in the study link of this post >>15372607 which you didn't respond to because you have no studies to fight back, you have just your meme woowoo toxic quack speculation nothing more +--- 15384268 +>>15370464 +>I know what I want and I want it now. +Is that you Mr. Vain? diff --git a/sci/15370392.txt b/sci/15370392.txt index edf2569bc8a1eec3fef8e32ce44f96980578b3aa..61f11a273ae93d4075391e48a82a6bd57c7e36de 100644 --- a/sci/15370392.txt +++ b/sci/15370392.txt @@ -80,3 +80,66 @@ Stress and fatigue. Try to cure them. --- 15380925 >>15380875 I've been rubbing my cheeks with my fingers for like 30 minutes now. It feels like it removes the tinnitus for 3-5 seconds after I stop and then it comes back. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, incorrect place perhaps. Or maybe I completely imagined it and there's no effect at all, I genuinely can't tell +--- 15380960 +>>15370392 (OP) +There is a cure lying in stem cells which have the ability to recover hair receptor and damaged nerves nearby. +But say thanks to liberal/religious/jewish whatever niggers that you will never get it because messing with fetuses for science so regular joe could feel better is a no-no. +--- 15381022 +>>15380925 +Massage is deep and circular and you're gonna have to do it for a lot more than 30 minutes. +--- 15381047 +>>15381022 +ok I'll do it a lot. Is this the place I'm supposed to massage? +--- 15381071 +jealous of everyone whose tinnitus is due to something easy like tmj or tight jaw muscles or an infection or whatever. + +best advice i've heard for real tinnitus was to reframe your perception of it and think of it as any other background noise you tune out without a problem, like a refrigerator running or a ceiling fan or road noise from a nearby highway. most of are in environments where stuff like that is running in the background all the time and we never think of it. +--- 15381086 +>>15381047 +--- 15381088 +>>15381071 +I hear this helps +https://mynoise.net/noiseMachines.php +--- 15381098 +>>15381086 +thanks! +--- 15381104 +>>15381088 +those definitely help, especially during the traumatic period where you first notice your tinnitus, but the real goal should be to eventually not need those sorts of things. takes a lot of mental readjustment but it's possible for most cases. sort of a zen thing in a way. +--- 15381137 +>>15370392 (OP) +It's aluminum in your body being excited from you living in an open microwave oven. Thank Geoengineering. Stratospheric Aerosol Injection... What was the other one..... SOLAR RADIATION Management., that's the one.. +--- 15382340 +Hypothetically how would you cure tinnitus? + +Tinnitus is a condition characterized by the perception of sound in the ears or head without any external source. While there is no known cure for tinnitus, there are several strategies that can help manage the symptoms: + +Identify and treat underlying conditions: In some cases, tinnitus can be caused by an underlying condition such as ear infection, high blood pressure, or a tumor. Treating the underlying condition can sometimes alleviate tinnitus symptoms. + +Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT): CBT is a type of therapy that helps people change negative thoughts and behaviors. For people with tinnitus, CBT can help change negative thoughts about the condition and reduce the impact of tinnitus on daily life. +--- 15382478 +>>15371397 +>If it's a brain thing then how can I have it only on one ear. +There's no contradiction there. It's a problem with the part of your brain that handles one of your ears, not with part of your brain that handles both. +--- 15382560 +>>15382340 +maybe somehow regrowing hair cells, assuming that your tinnitus is actually caused by noise exposure and not tense muscles or whatever + +>i'm just some pleb fyi not a scientist +--- 15382685 +>>15382560 +Yes it has to do with the brains interpretation of the signals those tiny tiny hairs give off. So dumb +--- 15382816 +>>15382560 +>>15382685 +==> +>>15380960 +--- 15383595 +>>15382340 +I really want to have CBT used on me. +--- 15383625 +>>15370392 (OP) +It's existencially painful the first few months but you really do get used to it after a while. + +Easier said than done but the best thing you could do is focus on other things +Do not for any reason lurk or post on tinnitus forums, anywhere. They're full of hopeless people that love being miserable. diff --git a/sci/15370417.txt b/sci/15370417.txt index 54bce87333573a2a6f28fa40efee3ca03b2f5b68..616f88286b12e1dadfbb8f8f81e675f4d17f7f76 100644 --- a/sci/15370417.txt +++ b/sci/15370417.txt @@ -182,3 +182,6 @@ go back >>15370971 evolution is another one of the soience religions many dogmatic, nondisprovable theories, that alone is enough to disprove it. theres no need for any scientist to circumvent the scientific method other than as a means of lying +--- 15383569 +>>15380567 +There is the scientific method and the soientific method. The two are not the same diff --git a/sci/15370453.txt b/sci/15370453.txt index 6ee9c8953c642fd242829ef233aa84ed3d781c7d..876a6b02e570851a78d3eed7cc0d73cb1593ee92 100644 --- a/sci/15370453.txt +++ b/sci/15370453.txt @@ -141,13 +141,6 @@ Indeed, there are also some more "based" things in his diary. I >Who bought the land? Who owned the land? --- 15377967 As a politician he was an absolute asshole. This does not diminish his achievements as a physicist. Newton also was an asshole on a personal level, not a gentleman at all. Still the greatest physicist ever. Let's try to stay focussed on the science on /sci/. ---- 15378062 ->>15372150 ->They literally argue rhetoric with their own god. It's far too complicated -Its just general jewish racism, none of them ever read that its just understood that goyim are shit ---- 15378078 ->>15377264 -Jews bought like 1% of the land of israel, most of it is urban, like the greater tel aviv area and some farmlands in the galilee. Most private land holdings belong to churches, its like 5% of the land, something like +90% of the land belongs now to the state because it was conquered --- 15379896 >>15372014 >wikipedia @@ -176,3 +169,10 @@ Wasn't he supposed to be smart or something? >>15380788 >but without borders and army That's just what he tells you... obviously he had a real state in mind. +--- 15383589 +>>15380788 +Israel now has the world's largest border walls. +Einstein was dumb, but not so dumb that he was beyond realizing that there were people more intelligent than himself. +--- 15384158 +>>15371931 +good pdf diff --git a/sci/15370558.txt b/sci/15370558.txt index c7aae11eea73a390fc8b6c77b71968a6cae5b3b2..faad7c3c02e5318203df717131bd712e6fedb0a4 100644 --- a/sci/15370558.txt +++ b/sci/15370558.txt @@ -53,3 +53,22 @@ NatGeo is actually owned by Rupert Murdoch's son, he isn't jewish (but he is a b >>15379872 I thought cantons can vote in any laws. Why don't they deprive illegal people of all human rights and just put them to death or use them for medical experiments or turn them into dog food? +--- 15383597 +>>15380608 +they do that in swaziland, which is more civilized and intelligent than switzerland. europe and america used to eliminate undesirables, then they stopped and now they're both on the verge of being overrun by the problem they cause for themselves. +not so in swaziland, swaziland's biggest problem is foreign lgbt activists, which they have firmly under control +--- 15383651 +Basedjak's doomsday clock. +https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state-of-the-planet/when-will-the-world-run-out-of-water +--- 15383732 +>>15370558 (OP) +>"the soience" says the world is overpop'd +>is this true +Yes, eight billlion iws *way* too many. +>it just another manipulative lie intended to play on the emotions of low iq mental cases with messiah complexes +wat +--- 15384241 +>>15370558 (OP) +the way i see it, the less people there are on the planet, the more stuff there is for me to have. + +In other words, i have to work less to get more stuff. diff --git a/sci/15370730.txt b/sci/15370730.txt index c4f760ea0e67c9b47dd848dfd975f06698d96833..707288b1177cf71e72136ece4af776373e13e8c6 100644 --- a/sci/15370730.txt +++ b/sci/15370730.txt @@ -619,3 +619,15 @@ ftfy senpai >>15372429 >memed hard it’s a lot of fun, actually. +--- 15381326 +>>15371156 +It's because zoomers have all kinds of fucked up fetishes that primarily revolve around their own bodily degradation. It wouldn't surprise me at all if bug-chasing became mainstream and it was considered "hot." +--- 15381348 +>>15381326 +Just let them perish. God will choose his own +--- 15384007 +>>15381326 +>>15381348 +>>15380529 +Psyoped memes. +There are no transmissable diseases via germs . diff --git a/sci/15370758.txt b/sci/15370758.txt index c373a5df3d245821d6724db040d22f1145fbe5fc..4b48c0b55891762735c4e1385e1dd0f7bc10ea49 100644 --- a/sci/15370758.txt +++ b/sci/15370758.txt @@ -195,3 +195,21 @@ Short of this, your next best option is gasoline. And oils like >>15370764 said, --- 15379863 >>15371539 Based. Germshitters can fuck off. +--- 15382932 +>>15370758 (OP) +just eat some uranium boom +--- 15383313 +Take the apepill +--- 15383317 +>>15370767 +ever drank gasoline? + +its not crazy dense +--- 15383394 +>>15383317 +isn't ethanol more energy dense than octane? +--- 15383456 +Uranium I think is the most calorie dense at 20,000 kcal per gram. + +>>15383394 +No gasoline has like 15% more energy than ethanol. In practical sense E85 gets you less miles per gallon than E10. diff --git a/sci/15371344.txt b/sci/15371344.txt index 0d626f721aeafdf9ec05dd9b46f5f92e95f844ae..ff01d0011980b24c2a607b0d4171fdecad48358b 100644 --- a/sci/15371344.txt +++ b/sci/15371344.txt @@ -46,9 +46,6 @@ Pay for a course. All the content is available for free, but I find it hard to s --- 15377776 >>15371344 (OP) bumping for more answers ---- 15378126 ->>15371344 (OP) -get good at some craft like learn to make cheese and you'll forget about math --- 15378730 >>15371344 (OP) Go back to square one. It important when learning to realize what you know and what you don't know @@ -64,3 +61,9 @@ Gelfand's books are pretty good especially if we will compare it to most of amer --- 15380664 >>15371344 (OP) You are retarded, just live a simple retarded life and ignore math +--- 15383731 +>>15371344 (OP) +bump +--- 15384258 +>>15371434 +Since middle school i wanted to derive all the algebraic identities and quadratic formula, and failing that I gave up learning much, Im 23yo still havent derived it what should I do? Using them without deriving them myself feels wrong, I know little calculus but algebra is where im stuck, I have seen it derived and I feel like idiot if I see it. This is a real hinderence. I used to be great at maths when I had great tutor but he was not peesent when we got to algebra. diff --git a/sci/15371874.txt b/sci/15371874.txt index 497c074fa67a07e13690d3418a84a9b47861a233..7456965c603813d7e034f3f2b3aaa9dc69ea591c 100644 --- a/sci/15371874.txt +++ b/sci/15371874.txt @@ -78,3 +78,34 @@ Old 4chan would find a way to get that paper retracted and their reputations dra a bunch of crooks, that nobody pays attention to don't retards and don't demonize the whole science world; there were were always retards in it; nothing new. +--- 15381125 +>>15380883 +Who cares how many cited it? They passed peer review despite lying about having not conflicts of interest. That puts the entire journal under scrutiny. +--- 15382061 +>>15381125 +>That puts the entire journal under scrutiny. +it should, but it doesn't +--- 15383688 +>>15382061 +Maybe in 10 of 15 years Retractionwatch might get around to doing an article about them. Retractionwatch is a good organization, but its only 4 people, they should have at least a few thousand more to make the kind of impact they need to make any significant difference in the way things are going. +--- 15383974 +>>15380734 +>how the fuck do they get away with this? +peer review. how many non-vegans do you think are doing peer review in veganology? +--- 15383982 +>To address the first aim, we compared the wider Reddit activity of r/AntiVegan users against that of a sample of r/askreddit users (N = 9500). With over 33 million users, r/askreddit is one of the most popular subreddits on Reddit. Given its popularity and the neutrality of its content, this subreddit has often been used as something of a “control group” for group-based comparisons (see, e.g., Bagroy et al., 2017). +>Given its popularity and the neutrality of its content +lol +--- 15383997 +The global warming orthodoxy is the result of groupthink enforced by cancel culture, not independent thinkers coming to the same conclusion + +https://www.discoursemagazine.com/ideas/2022/05/02/the-fake-scientific-consensus-on-climate-change/ + +>Consider the case of an Italian scientific conference last year that had to be canceled, not because of the pandemic, but because participants withdrew en masse after an Italian newspaper whipped up a crusade over one of the papers to be presented—a paper that expressed skepticism about the size of the human role in global warming. Rumors swirled that one of its authors was a “denier,” and everyone stampeded toward the exits. (See another report on an academic conference that got a similar reception.) This is “cancel culture” in climate science. + +>Or consider a recent book by Obama-administration official Steve Koonin—former undersecretary of science for the Department of Energy—which questioned some of the conclusions of the established view. In a letter to Scientific American signed by a dozen other scientists, he was promptly denounced as a “crank” and a “disinformation peddler,” with plenty of insinuations that he must be bought and paid for by Big Oil. + +>I think we’re starting to get an idea of how we got that “consensus.” +--- 15384009 +>>15380593 +Great. Scifi without the fun diff --git a/sci/15372155.txt b/sci/15372155.txt index 461872a3f3768db7327a30f638ba9f494d65277a..d22676b787d13375bf5473421d419a7048fde3b2 100644 --- a/sci/15372155.txt +++ b/sci/15372155.txt @@ -61,3 +61,23 @@ this is correct --- 15380341 >>15377893 i am personally the center of the universe +--- 15382946 +>>15372155 (OP) +technically they are just experiencing the expansion of space, they arent exactly traveling faster than light but relative to us yes very much so +--- 15382953 +>>15372155 (OP) +why isn't the Earth at the center? +--- 15382971 +>>15372337 +>are moving away from us at more than the speed of light +source? show me the evidence of ftl objects. +>big rip fantasy +fantasy until proven +a recent study showed a conservation between black holes (gravity) and dark energy (reverse-gravity) +your claim that these two effects are in an imbalance is baseless (not even your "if" is valid) +--- 15383814 +>>15372337 +Midwits can't understand what you are saying. +If you tell them a photon right now travelling towards the Galactic center and another travelling to the Galactic indeed have twice the speed of light with respect to each other, their minds get fried. They think you made some error somewhere, since all of the popsoi instruction they have received over the years tried to hammer into their limited brains how two particles in the same reference frame can only ever "maximally travel at the speed of light" (hint: your instructions are oversimplifed to uselessness. What is actually happening is that objects with mass approach the speed of light as a limit). +--- 15383970 +OMG I know everything about the whole entire universe, I'm so smart & I want to reply to this thread so I can show off how I know everything about the universe, I memorized if from high school science class and the black soience mantv show. I'm so smart!!! diff --git a/sci/15372357.txt b/sci/15372357.txt index 502d976f6bff88c25eb886059791b9eaa38c913d..c329eac8f938d797fa7c21322cc3bcfb5b13e302 100644 --- a/sci/15372357.txt +++ b/sci/15372357.txt @@ -228,3 +228,12 @@ Kek, it was from stackexchange. --- 15380437 >>15372357 (OP) if you don't understand the mathematics of kaubiwachi manifolds there's no much hope in explaining nulecule integralisation. It's a deep dive you're going to have to do by yourself. Good luck! +--- 15381872 +>>15380437 +some people would rather live in delusion than admit they were wrong +--- 15382020 +>>15372512 +Physicists normally use Euclidean path integrals where everything is explicitly real and the exponential of the action has a minus sign to ensure convergence. It is well-defined and rigorous in 1D. +--- 15382028 +>>15380437 +Nice attempt at making up plausible sounding jargon diff --git a/sci/15372505.txt b/sci/15372505.txt index a4dd0b7c6738a9c91dd24a710b556d6f985deb87..d54580624ceaaf0bad68a6ca659ab2233733938d 100644 --- a/sci/15372505.txt +++ b/sci/15372505.txt @@ -49,3 +49,25 @@ Nani? --- 15380582 >>15380358 Exactly. +--- 15383459 +>>15373438 +When the magnetic field flips, the magnetic coupling with the sun causes rapid overturning of the planet. +--- 15383838 +>>15383459 +Dude the planet would turn to lava +--- 15383866 +>>15372505 (OP) +If you spin an acorn it will flip. Asymmetrical spinning things do stuff like that. + +No I'm not going to watch your video. +--- 15383946 +Is this just some ordinary case of planets rotating at right angles to the solar plane? Why is this heretical? +--- 15383981 +>>15383838 +No. +--- 15383984 +>>15380358 +good point too bad it's never going to fly in this economy +--- 15384025 +>>15383981 +Retard. diff --git a/sci/15374544.txt b/sci/15374544.txt index 89a3e3c89e61b4c8141c916c090e6e704af2f31e..cd0d748160b2d4bc60d78ccf85c188faf55e7469 100644 --- a/sci/15374544.txt +++ b/sci/15374544.txt @@ -262,3 +262,21 @@ Bezos-sama is our only hope now >>15374544 (OP) https://youtu.be/4iwHb189X84 [Embed] https://youtu.be/upNphtZCvjs [Embed] +--- 15381227 +>>15375799 +Yeah when you're 70 years old +--- 15381245 +>>15376106 +You're attracted to children +--- 15382032 +>>15374676 +Lament thyself, unbeliever, and be saved by the Lord. PBUH +--- 15382074 +>>15374544 (OP) +I like the things you do +--- 15382674 +>>15375520 +--- 15382688 +more political spam from the trannys who are upset that musk removed the tranny censors from twitter, the catalog is currently filled with the spam, none the threads have any science content whatsoever +--- 15382729 +>>15374544 (OP) diff --git a/sci/15374777.txt b/sci/15374777.txt index 1480a615510022e850a214e76fcc4517d7d8d4be..bf9ef93e49802e071a613f8543b294d751538879 100644 --- a/sci/15374777.txt +++ b/sci/15374777.txt @@ -14,3 +14,28 @@ Everything starts with artificial gravity, then you can get politicians into a n But when that happens you can expect more funding. --- 15380021 If its not viable how come Captain Harlock did it +--- 15381002 +>>15379947 +No it wasn't expected to blow up, everyone would be over the moon if it succeeded, but it did not...it blew up. You learn from your failures but you don't actually build to fail. Also Elon will never give you any money so stop shilling for him. +--- 15382430 +>>15381002 +Why, it makes internet slacktivists of both sides mad. +If something makes leftists and cuckservatives angry, it has to be good. +--- 15382435 +>>15381002 +>No it wasn't expected to blow up +Elon said it would RUD in the twitter livestream last week before the original launch date. +--- 15382444 +>>15381002 +>Also Elon will never give you any money so stop shilling for him +Your the one letting him live in your head rent free. +--- 15382459 +>>15374846 +Unironically this. +--- 15382469 +>>15375118 +To build a space station you need rockets, dummy. +--- 15382602 +>>15374777 (OP) +>Private spaceflight will NEVER be viable. +"NEVER" spans a lot of time, Nostradamus. diff --git a/sci/15374973.txt b/sci/15374973.txt index a8a5ac63177665a55936ae28e08fc51047017f4d..6b115d276f6f3a1112fd673873ff7595cb968618 100644 --- a/sci/15374973.txt +++ b/sci/15374973.txt @@ -235,9 +235,6 @@ I was thinking the same, so cringe. I wish these kinds of people would disappear --- 15377814 >>15376295 The launch threw concrete everywhere damaging the launch pad and rocket itself. ---- 15377838 ->>15374973 (OP) -The solution is to make a better rocket. In the next design all the problems should be solved before building the rocket, at the design stage. --- 15377843 >>15376463 >2 more weeks trust me bro @@ -418,3 +415,71 @@ why? good bait >>15377459 stop biting troll bait +--- 15380961 +>>15380833 +They have ~6-7 laying around and cranks out one each month, which will scale further as the program matures. The problem isn't Super Heavy. The problem isn't the cost of Starship. The problem is integration testing and finding issues. +--- 15382179 +>>15376476 +He is payed by people to disuade competition by deluding people into his utter fucking nonsense. +--- 15382202 +>>15378321 +>government has zero faith in Elon when it comes to manned missions. +You're a complete moron. +--- 15382247 +>>15378691 +>>15378734 +>can't dig a hole below the water table +Total nonsense, it's merely more expensive. Cassions have been used for this for hundreds of years. + +>water will seep in +That's what pumps are for. + +>but we don't have basements here +Because it isn't economical for the value a basement provides to an average house. A rocket launch pad is not a suburban mcmansion. +--- 15382290 +>>15380754 +You your youtube channel and Elon Musk can suck my cock but speacex and it's engineers are good for humanity, I don't care what cunt funds it. +Cope and seethe fag +--- 15382319 +>>15382290 +>speacex and it's engineers are good for humanity +>consumerism is good for humanity + +the greatest deception the devil ever achieved +--- 15382356 +>>15374973 (OP) +I surprised it flew that high + +my prediction was that it explodes at the launchpad + +and they essentially learn nothing + +I guess a Mars mission seem possible +heavy doubt on the colonization thing though + +since we can't even make a Biosphere on earth +--- 15382358 +>>15382319 +What the fuck does SpaceX even make for consumers? Internet? If you got a problem with the internet then do us all a favor and get the fuck off it you filthy hypocrite. +--- 15382377 +>>15382356 +--- 15382414 +>>15382358 +>NOM NOM NOM ITS MINE PISS OFF +t. bloated fucktard +--- 15382901 +>>15382358 +Cheap satellite deployment for telecomm, research, government, etc. +--- 15382926 +>>15382414 +--- 15383091 +>>15378566 +You are the faggot thinking about elon musk 24/7 rent free like like a neurotic whore, instead of the rockets he makes. +--- 15383232 +>>15382377 + +the spruce goose that's what it reminded me of. A giant lumbering sea plane that only flew once. Elon could be the new Howard Hughes +--- 15383275 +>>15383232 +It was a perfectly functional aircraft, it was built under contract for by the government when they thought they'd need an aircraft like it for the invasion of japan. once the aircraft was no longer needed, the government dropped the contract. there was nothing wrong with the plane, it worked as intended, but it was unnecessary by the time it was completed. +hughes became unpopular with the media because of the large part he played in ousting communists from rko studios and everything associated with has been publicly slandered ever since. diff --git a/sci/15375290.txt b/sci/15375290.txt index 01ca21e6d6e4f9628aa41db939dfabcdcd561fbd..a0005e6818af6c35866f3f4305d6e2410ebf869b 100644 --- a/sci/15375290.txt +++ b/sci/15375290.txt @@ -175,3 +175,40 @@ Wait, are we really discussing the influence of this board movieblob including - general lack of influence and retardedness this is your lolcow thread, right? +--- 15381211 +>>15380902 +>lack of influence +A cult following and interviews that get hundreds of thousands of views is influence. +--- 15381629 +>>15375290 (OP) +You probably only get in when you're jewish. So forget about them. +--- 15381765 +>>15375290 (OP) +>with shared housing and everything +LessWrong has a cult commune facility? +--- 15381779 +>>15375645 +>I am developing plans to order the government +LOL +--- 15381815 +>>15379195 +>>15379200 +>>15379205 +bot posts +--- 15381829 +>>15381765 +I would definitely join his cult if so. +--- 15381839 +>>15381829 +If you want to live with smelly fat nerds, there are surely easier ways to go about that than joining a cult. +--- 15381853 +>>15381839 +Well yeah, coming to this board for one. I'm a big fan of Eliezer though. Would happily join his cult. +--- 15382046 +jewish shills shilling jewish shills +all day every day +every day of the week, month & year +nonstop, for over a decade +--- 15382286 +>>15381815 +that's some shit big yud wrote on his blog diff --git a/sci/15375680.txt b/sci/15375680.txt index 49c8179d570a7c7b71035ddaa63e492aaa25b8de..2504dbd9cdc0f713e8e3cb45e007dbcec91e6a54 100644 --- a/sci/15375680.txt +++ b/sci/15375680.txt @@ -49,3 +49,9 @@ I started working here as a scientist two weeks ago. --- 15379185 The Earth From Space girl was dreamy until someone pointed out that she's American so they started mixing in Eurohags. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bh9Y9Rt0YQg [Embed] +--- 15381850 +>>15378036 +Based. How is it? What are you working on? +--- 15381870 +>>15375680 (OP) +I'm so sorry massa diff --git a/sci/15376066.txt b/sci/15376066.txt index 8154fbd2cefe10225abad22ff06eb797314b14bc..789b3dd28ba0612d76a61e80983c593993788bfd 100644 --- a/sci/15376066.txt +++ b/sci/15376066.txt @@ -34,3 +34,5 @@ Majority of university students just have a good memory and work ethic. That's i Average PhD holder has an IQ of like 130. Pretty high but nothing special in the grand scheme of things. Biggest thing separating them from the rest is work ethic. --- 15380669 >tfw wanted to get a PhD but cant because i cant do lab work due to auto-immune disease +--- 15382421 +Having a PhD in quatiative fields require a certain level of intelligence. the reading materials filter out 99% of the population. diff --git a/sci/15376142.txt b/sci/15376142.txt index 773235d0c01550c9bea82f7c8d3fea810f155f3b..d5aff2e74fb6e8942b3a8671cc5143fbc018db04 100644 --- a/sci/15376142.txt +++ b/sci/15376142.txt @@ -169,3 +169,9 @@ That and general incompetence. --- 15380103 >>15380098 Haha, got me. It stops me from -wanting- to kms to be more accurate. +--- 15382955 +>>15376142 (OP) +their dependency on it makes them defend it irrationally, weed users are batshit crazy +--- 15383180 +>>15376142 (OP) +psychosis is fun and im tired of pretending otherwise diff --git a/sci/15376478.txt b/sci/15376478.txt index 825f1b96ab7430899c0b7247bee6e6ad6d6eff0a..02d4dd877c646b81855f16d31a9ffca5f90d5491 100644 --- a/sci/15376478.txt +++ b/sci/15376478.txt @@ -3,3 +3,23 @@ space x be like --- 15379951 Launch was trying to get data using a shitty old model, it got data, you just seethe because felon muskrat le bad!! +--- 15382793 +>>15379951 +You'd get more data without the explosion. +--- 15382862 +The wife became aware of Spacex for the first time last night. She sniggered, 'Space Sex'. Was this done on purpose? Another Musk meme? Maybe Musk wants to be the first person to bang a sheep in space? +--- 15383258 +>>15382793 +and you get even more by more frequent launches, regardless of outcome +--- 15383428 +>>15382862 +Musk started x.com in 1999as an online payment system. That's where the x comes from. It also makes sense that a Gen-Xer might pick x as their brand. +--- 15383463 +>>15383258 +That's besides the point. +--- 15383466 +>>15383428 +Well of you're gonna make your site url a single letter, what are you gonna choose? +--- 15383795 +>>15376478 (OP) +They can make a raptor engine every 12hours diff --git a/sci/15377125.txt b/sci/15377125.txt index 3fa88a3265dae7293f8927ddfd779bc8c893d37d..782aa6881ffb7607773868d8650bcbc1a1c86c02 100644 --- a/sci/15377125.txt +++ b/sci/15377125.txt @@ -13,3 +13,6 @@ KEK My dick goes boom inside your mother --- 15380196 Is the energy required to produce a nuclear bomb more or less than the energy of the explosion? +--- 15382935 +>>15377169 +you posted this in /sfg/ faggot diff --git a/sci/15377486.txt b/sci/15377486.txt index ff94482ea27198d2db37e0045c2c5cdc36f4c43e..4ee56a28be2d3d5de524ce4a196ddc337ec841ee 100644 --- a/sci/15377486.txt +++ b/sci/15377486.txt @@ -113,3 +113,31 @@ Who isn't letting transsexuals live? It's they who demand, very loudly and under --- 15380889 >>15377486 (OP) >Listening to retarded far right on t**tter +--- 15381756 +>>15377486 (OP) +it isn't that they are 'unrelated' it is just that they 'aren't the same thing' + +all you trans-obsessed people make yourselves look functionally retarded with your attempts at disingenuous 'gotcha' arguments. +--- 15381956 +>>15379912 +Adult men showing their penis to five year old girls is what trannies consider "just live and let live". If you were serious about being "left alone" you'd favor the death penalty for trannies who insist on access to children. But because access to children is part of your identity, you won't do that so can't be left alone to abuse children. No one really cared about trannies until they started going after children but that you defend such behavior shows everyone why you can never be "left alone" as that endangers the children you lust after. +--- 15381982 +>>15377486 (OP) +Can there not be a difference between biological sex and gender? +--- 15382016 +>>15380134 +medical technology can't really give them a vagina though, just a crude farce. +--- 15382985 +>>15377486 (OP) +Because trannies are either +A) homophobic and think the solution is to change their sex so that they're no longer practicing homosexuality, or +B) have deeply internalized societal expectations of gender behavior because of excessive need for peer validation i.e. they can't stand being a girly guy or tomboy girl +--- 15383111 +>>15378147 +>There is nothing more central to white identity than the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom +lmao +--- 15384156 +>>15380733 +>I am 135+ IQ person expecting high level intelligent discourse and discussion of my dissertations on a board overwhelmingly inhabited by children, retards, trolls, and the mentally ill. + +Yup, that sure stacks up. diff --git a/sci/15377589.txt b/sci/15377589.txt index 5d527816930f31db3cd9a709201cef9800f43b79..faf6c42809cb91bb9d9d0e41ac2655242b799c4a 100644 --- a/sci/15377589.txt +++ b/sci/15377589.txt @@ -36,3 +36,5 @@ that goes without saying Something was an inside job? Forgot what it was, care to remind me?>>15380815 >them them in* +--- 15382110 +Earth Day every day! diff --git a/sci/15378013.txt b/sci/15378013.txt index 2e70b1ba6f3685aa14cfcf082f088ab63ad147b1..69d17ee8c637c52af82f99b180a30551d8a21dad 100644 --- a/sci/15378013.txt +++ b/sci/15378013.txt @@ -23,3 +23,31 @@ BASED>>15378259 --- 15380561 >>15378242 Don't forget the shakers +--- 15383184 +>>15378242 +>>15380561 +this has nothing to do with religion +--- 15383186 +>>15383184 +Most modern antinatalism comes from the cult of climate doom, so it's very religiously motivated. +--- 15383200 +>>15383186 +that's a very vague claim. +modern antinatalism is mostly secular, especially specific branches of it like Efilism it's strictly atheist. +doomerism isn't inherently religious if that's what you're trying to imply. we are doomed, look at how fucked the world is. +--- 15383219 +>>15383200 +Believing in the millenarian doomsday cult of climate chaos is a religion. +--- 15383224 +>>15383219 +no it's called acknowledging reality. reality is chaotic and cruel, that's a fact. +--- 15383226 +>>15383224 +Nothing they believe is real, and all of their doomsday predictions have failed. It's just 7th Day Adventism with a green paintjob. +--- 15383229 +>>15383226 +what predictions? I'm talking about pessimism. +I'm saying the world is awful it always was. +--- 15383234 +>>15383229 +Ice caps will be melted by 2000, or 2012, or 2020. 100 feet of sea level rise by 2030. Decline in polar bears (despite them being more numerous than ever). Hottest years on record, except that they only exist when you delete older records from the books. That type of thing that these so-called "scientists" are always claiming despite all the contrary evidence. diff --git a/sci/15378024.txt b/sci/15378024.txt index 443e523d03b2d5de487a4c59298fa7b882b6bc42..903b84637482a8f2126b74cada6716f63d07dcbd 100644 --- a/sci/15378024.txt +++ b/sci/15378024.txt @@ -121,3 +121,22 @@ Name ended in stein. There's something there. >>15379120 >>15379281 Schizophrenics aren't stupid because of low IQ, but because they are unbelievably naive, they will believe anything that people tell them, and otherwise accept unreliable information as certain, even guesses that they made themselves. And they never doubt it later, and then reject any evidence to the contrary, which is where their insanity finally shows. It isn't so much the lack of intellect, more that they fill their brains with garbage knowledge. +--- 15382196 +>>15378024 (OP) +Psychotic thinking is driven by creative associations, unusual imagery, and original metaphors. Those with psychotic neurodivergences think in a way that poets strive to represent by creating striking associations of two or more ideas or objects that neurotypical thinkers usually do not connect. +--- 15383426 +take your meds +--- 15383457 +IQ is a mitigating factor in most mental illnesses because higher analytical ability and self awareness allows for better outcomes since a very very smart schizo/autist/whatever is capable of recognising what's wrong describing it to care providers and sticking to treatment. Low IQ schizos have horrible outcomes because they already have shitty lives from poor coping mechanisms and impulse control and now that impulse is random paranoia fueled violence. +--- 15383707 +>>15382196 +Shut up Lake Angela +--- 15383975 +>>15378024 (OP) +That's what the lizards want you to think. +--- 15383989 +>>15383457 +If they recognized what's wrong, there wouldn't be anything to treat. Schizophrenia treatment refers to the drugging of confused people. +--- 15384200 +>>15378024 (OP) +I don't know what the stats say but I would imagine a cognitive disorder would be hard to compare to the general population right? One of the smartest people I've ever known became schizophrenic. Anecdote doesn't trump data but I do question the data. diff --git a/sci/15378056.txt b/sci/15378056.txt index 5fcb41bbcb49f664c093f8a8b698324d07fef057..9f5a1f8cea3f60af75469a61345640c4037593aa 100644 --- a/sci/15378056.txt +++ b/sci/15378056.txt @@ -106,3 +106,67 @@ maybe --- 15380930 >>15378056 (OP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yy7A74o8gQ [Embed] +--- 15381076 +Numbers are a hoax. Show me a "number" anywhere +>protip, you can't +--- 15381107 +>>15381076 +>protip, you can't +...but I am the One. + +B^l +--- 15381877 +>>15378859 +Just wait until you learn about negative numbers +--- 15381900 +>>15378056 (OP) +Zero is a placeholder, not a number. +--- 15382294 +>>15381900 +Wrong +--- 15382329 +>>15381107 +One is not a number, one is the unit that numbers are made out of. For example, if someone tells you they have a number of cars, and they have only one car, they are lying. +--- 15382433 +>>15382329 +>one is the unit that numbers are made out of +how about decimals +--- 15382588 +>>15378056 (OP) +Is any number "natural"? +--- 15382647 +>>15382433 +Those are ratios not numbers. +--- 15382671 +No +--- 15382724 +>>15382647 +Ok, express one fourth as decimals without using any numbers +--- 15383228 +>>15378909 +If that was true then the absence of absence would be a fiction, which is a contradiction. +--- 15383249 +>>15378056 (OP) +It's artificial. "They" used chemicals to create it. +--- 15383627 +>>15382588 +Yes. Natural numbers were created by God, all else is the work of man. If natural numbers were constructed by man's formal models of arithmetic, then it wouldn't make sense to talk about a "standard" model versus "nonstandard" models. There is a standard model because natural numbers are prior to formalism, and the standard model is the one God made for us which we use to create the formalisms. Put another way: God and an atheist were having a number-making competition. The atheist writes down ten characters and says "this formula asserts the existence of zero." God responds, "Make your own ten." +--- 15383629 +>>15378871 +>how about the 0 bitches that you have +u can not have zero bitches stupíd retarded +--- 15383630 +>>15382724 +You can't write down "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500" without using any numbers either. Is "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500" a number? +--- 15383631 +>>15383629 +t. person who lives a country where prostitution is legal +--- 15383662 +>>15378056 (OP) +Natural number is any quantity x or y that represents a multiple of a unit given, for any x and y, that x+y>=x and x+y>=y. Intuitively you do see 0 everywhere if that is what you mean by natural, because in order to observe x patterns in one place you must, tautologically, see 0 ~pattern of its negation in the same place. If you are even thicker, ask yourself: does a man see darkness(which is 0 light)? Does a man see a clear sky(which is 0 clouds)? Does a man see a hole(which is 0 ground)? Wow +--- 15383791 +>>15378056 (OP) +Only retarded anal-ysis homosexuals think 0 is a natural number +--- 15384336 +>>15383630 +No but 0,1, 2, 5 and 6 is, just like decimals are numbers diff --git a/sci/15378175.txt b/sci/15378175.txt index f928518f702982323e6ef29264a2bff61a8f86f0..3b279305941180e3852fc161893807f62254d66c 100644 --- a/sci/15378175.txt +++ b/sci/15378175.txt @@ -102,3 +102,42 @@ this is now a tomboy supremacist thread --- 15380487 >>15378175 (OP) She looks feminine to me, even pretty. +--- 15381077 +>>15378175 (OP) +any random actress from egypt today would probably a better match +--- 15381102 +>>15378492 +Macedonian, the whitest of greeks +--- 15381113 +>>15378798 +What does this mean for the effects of inbreeding? The media tries to convince us they're all hideous insane mutants. +--- 15381157 +>>15378175 (OP) +I would put so many babies in her womb. +--- 15381162 +>>15380416 +Because mapping three dimensions to three dimensions requires a lot less in the way of technique than mapping three dimensions to two dimensions. +--- 15381164 +>>15381157 +Are you her blood relative? +--- 15381189 +>It's her +--- 15381618 +>>15378175 (OP) +>bust and painting are ugly +>reconstruction is a 10/10 white woman in the black continent + +this is bait, porn bait. Not science. +--- 15381692 +>>15381077 +too much muslim admixture +--- 15384216 +>>15378175 (OP) +All paintings and statues of Cleopatra were made after her death. The only contemporary image we have of her is from coins minted during her reign. +--- 15384217 +>>15384216 +What evidence is there of other ptolomies? +--- 15384219 +>>15381618 +>black continent +blacks only crossed the sahara as slaves diff --git a/sci/15378431.txt b/sci/15378431.txt index 6a8ac84cd4063ca51205ad3926b6b40ee650a25c..13a06a2f2171c7b48cabb8cb8dd89f8788f4967b 100644 --- a/sci/15378431.txt +++ b/sci/15378431.txt @@ -10,3 +10,46 @@ As we now know, the large reusable rockets needed to explore space cannot be bui --- 15380870 >>15378431 (OP) in my butt +--- 15381131 +>>15378431 (OP) +right here buddy +--- 15381666 +>>15378431 (OP) +Area 51, they have an alien prison there. +--- 15381673 +>>15378431 (OP) +The Earth is flat with a dome. +God exists. + +Aliens don't exist. +Space isn't real. +Gravity doesn't exist. +Never went to the moon. +Asteroids don't exist. +UFOs are a psyop. +Nukes don't exist. +Evolution is a lie. +Germ Theory is a lie. + +The world is ruled by secret societies that worship Satan. Jews/Jesuits/Freemasons/Illuminati are Gnostics and Kabbalists. Masters at deception. One satanic philosophy is inverting reality. + +They make you think you live on a spinning ball. +They make you think you're just an animal. +They make you think there's a deadly virus out there. +--- 15381944 +>>15378431 (OP) +The universe hasnt reached the point where abiotic synthesis isnt a 1 in a gorillion chance, its rare now but in a few billion years most solar systems will be flourishing will cool aliens. +--- 15382910 +>>15378431 (OP) +Observing us +--- 15382960 +>>15378431 (OP) +I really, really like this thought-provoking thread. +--- 15383780 +>>15378431 (OP) +In a galaxy far far away... +--- 15383874 +We're likely the only intelligent life. If there were others, they would have risen billions of years before us and would have modified their galaxies by now. Since we see no signs of engineered galaxies there is nobody else. +--- 15384177 +>>15378431 (OP) +Does it matter? They're light years away and will probably never find us even in a billions of years. Stop giving a shit about aliens now and go back to your meaningless life wageslaving in a dying system cuck. diff --git a/sci/15378472.txt b/sci/15378472.txt index 52af208d5b10d18531062b032c6ebf24d319ee62..c332afbbdf6366f3491192453f57cfed735467fb 100644 --- a/sci/15378472.txt +++ b/sci/15378472.txt @@ -6,3 +6,20 @@ Wtf is this shit? Do I need to change the settings from amerishart to british en --- 15378493 >>15378472 (OP) sounds to me like you're falling victim to microshit +--- 15381045 +Please avoid words with racist, sexist and transphobic associations in your papers. +--- 15381064 +>>15378472 (OP) +Works on my machine. Tried both UK and US. +--- 15381072 +>>15378472 (OP) +Most text editors have god awful spelling and grammar suggestions. Turn that shit off and don't make mistakes. +--- 15381111 +>>15381064 +Yep maybe op ain't using the words by standard definition +--- 15384264 +>>15378472 (OP) +Install gentoo + +>>15381111 +Checked diff --git a/sci/15378658.txt b/sci/15378658.txt index 9b098e66f478f967aab353f4c722cb6f215b27a1..b13a60ef18a896b2f677acc9c3727516200b66b1 100644 --- a/sci/15378658.txt +++ b/sci/15378658.txt @@ -149,3 +149,17 @@ You seem to be having some kind of mental breakdown --- 15379642 >>15378658 (OP) The pixels of our universe +--- 15381390 +>>15379270 +this is sort of what i thought. but if g fields distort spacetime density, what exactly are em fields doing> +--- 15382055 +>>15381390 +>g fields distort spacetime density +gravitational fields distort the coordinate grid +--- 15382337 +>>15378658 (OP) +a field is a fundamental substance, so you can't define it in terms of anything else, you can only describe its behavior +--- 15382409 +>>15378658 (OP) +Particle physics is a meme. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJDjUzM-ho [Embed] diff --git a/sci/15378961.txt b/sci/15378961.txt index 4ad6e1b3f122869b37ac2f3e859cdda5fa106234..6df6c10ae99bec98af49b5e7955d0d99686bbfab 100644 --- a/sci/15378961.txt +++ b/sci/15378961.txt @@ -7,3 +7,18 @@ You might feel some amount of relief which could put you in a better mood and th --- 15379059 >>15378961 (OP) It's big pharma fucking with the medical trials. +--- 15381781 +>>15378961 (OP) +Studies have shown that even when people know that they are getting a placebo, there is still a statistically significant percentage of people who get significant benefit with whatever they were told they'd see benefits with... from a known placebo. + +this is why so many people feel like homeopathy has helped them. it is the placebo effect of taking something that they think/are told will help with X issue. + +>>15379056 +yes, even with severe pain - but only in certain individuals/situations. it is something we are still learning a lot about +--- 15381820 +>>15378961 (OP) +Placebo is wildly overused, but yes, it's real. It can't actually cure you of anything, but your brain *can* trick itself into believing you're feeling better. +--- 15382000 +>>15381781 +>Studies have shown that even when people know that they are getting a placebo, there is still a statistically significant percentage of people who get significant benefit with whatever they were told they'd see benefits with... from a known placebo. +Sounds like regression to the mean. diff --git a/sci/15379089.txt b/sci/15379089.txt index f84102a00d349525769a779783cbc6511e553a4a..86ee6be1aeecb7a080523f32b9422500cfe6a2a5 100644 --- a/sci/15379089.txt +++ b/sci/15379089.txt @@ -145,3 +145,177 @@ Musk has adapted to the field's needs faster than public agencies that's not all --- 15380898 >>15380779 I am also know that the world is flat and I'm gratefully vaccinated its delightful to break this misconception that Antivax tards create, they give us the truth knoweres a bad name +--- 15380934 +>>15379089 (OP) +On the one hand he didn't have to make it reusable, on the other hand we have super computers to do our calculations instead of rooms of guys with slide rules. Also raptor is some ksp shit. +--- 15380942 +>>15380879 +They lie, and it's the other way round - upper class had high lead values, the slaves and otherwise the poor had little to none. (EVERYWHERE, be it plantation owners in Virginia, the patricians in Rome, or japanese Samurai) The actual need may be significant, handling bullets probably isn't enough, though it may help. +--- 15380957 +>>15380942 +>Heavy metals are good for your nervous system +This is a science board, you got any studies to back up your wild theory. +--- 15380979 +>>15380879 +>>15380957 +he's just baiting retards to a new pitfall so they poison themselves. +some do it by cruelty, some do with ulterior motives such as accelerationist natural selection. +--- 15381068 +>>15380957 +You know it won't pass the peer review, in fact it might be why you came up with it in the first place, because the actual experts told you it can't be true, and wouldn't shut up. +--- 15381090 +Jews only care about enriching themselves and raping kids. They have no use for idealistic ambitions such as space exploration. +--- 15381109 +>>15380106 +You mean reuse the Saturn V designs? I'm pretty sure most of the blueprints are lost, and I doubt anybody would spend the time recreating a functional Saturn V when better technology exists +--- 15381129 +>>15381109 +>when better technology exists +Such as? +--- 15381133 +>>15381109 +The blueprints aren't lost, they're on microfiche at MSF and there's redundant digital copies all over the fucking place. + +The problem is that a lot of the critical parts in the SatV are no longer off-the-shelf technology. Nobody uses vacuum tube transistors or magnetic amplifiers for discrete circuits anymore, and even the style of ICs in the guidance computer were phased out decades ago. It'd be like trying to build an authentic 1908 Model T - while the fundamental engineering principles of vehicles haven't changed in 115 years, none of the parts in the original design exist anymore and you'd have to either custom build all those parts (which means rebuilding all the infrastructure and retraining all the forgotten expertise) or redesigning it to work with available technology (at which point you may as well just redesign the whole damn thing). +--- 15381148 +>>15381109 +>I'm pretty sure most of the blueprints are lost +--- 15381149 +>>15381133 +>we just don't understand how it fucking worked. +--- 15381150 +elon musk designs rockets daily though? +--- 15381158 +>>15381149 +Kek, did you read the fucking post? It's just the electronics, nothing that couldn't be easily re-designed. +--- 15381204 +>>15379089 (OP) +over the past years, SpaceX used 2-3 bil. USD on Starship - about 10% of NASA annual budget +less than 1% of what NASA had in disposal for Apollo between 1960-1969 +>>15380106 +you can't keep the entire production line forever. It got thrown out or repurposed to make room for new things (like the Shuttle) +It's a completely normal procedure - you can't buy newly built Ford Ts, Walkmans or GameCubes anymore either + +we could restart production, but it wouldn't be cost effective compared to building new things with better methods and materials +--- 15381263 +>>15381150 +There redditors here who think Musk shitposts all day on twitter, designs rockets, runs several companies and assembles cars in his spare time. Also gives out interviews, attends globohomo conferences and other public appearances. +--- 15381264 +>>15381158 +>It's just the electronics, nothing that couldn't be easily re-designed. +Wrong. It's nothing that shouldn't be easy to redesign. If you could redesign it, you're either an old man, or a NEET who isn't allowed to have a job. They can't redesign it. They're retarded. +--- 15381266 +>>15381149 +>we just don't understand how it fucking worked. +That's literally nothing like what I posted. +We know what the designs were. We know how all of it worked. But knowing how something works and having the infrastructure and readily-available parts to reproduce it are not the same thing. + +>>15381158 +>>15381236 +Redesigning something this complex isn't as simple as replacing part A with part B. You car (if it was made in the last ~30 years or so) uses a fuel injection system instead of a carburetor. That doesn't mean I can take an old car, pull the carburetor out, and slap a fuel injector directly in its place. You need additional parts to make that conversion work. + +Same shit here. Every part that's no longer available off-the-shelf is something that needs to either rebuilt or replaced and every part that gets replaced isn't going to be just that part, but generally the adjacent dozen or so parts it works in tandem with. At a certain point it's just easier to design a new system based around the stuff you currently have available. +--- 15381286 +>>15380185 +>Nigs in the classroom wasting time (might not apply to rich kids) +This is honestly a big factor that isn't talked about. +I went to a majority black school and I still distinctly remember when I was in 3rd grade we spent the better part of a school year endlessly rehashing basic math concepts because the nigs were literally just too stupid to understand it and the teacher was desperately trying to get them to pass. +I understood it after the 1st lesson but had to sit there for months in my desk absolutely bored out of my mind while she tried to explain things to them for the 1000th time. +Even as a little kid I had this realization that my time was being wasted and that I was missing out on whatever was supposed to come next. +--- 15381304 +>>15381266 +How much do you think it was built from off shelf parts? +If a couple of hicks can put a turbocharger or into an existing car why couldn't a team of top experts replace a bit of electronics? +There are streetcars with their electronics completely replaced. +It shouldn't be that hard to make a circuit that does the same thing, the same way it shouldn't be that hard to put a new engine in the car. +You can still make a carburator even if it will be done by a CNC machine instead of being cast and a couple guys with a lathe, or whatever they used to make them. +--- 15381323 +>>15379089 (OP) +>>15379286 +>>15379670 +>>15379679 +>>15379682 +>>15380942 +>>15380783 +>>15381150 +>ITS NOT A ROCKET SCIENCE +people always died and shit always explode, yes we did more 60 years ago(assuming it wasn't fake) yes there are more resources invested in garbage shit advertising scams based tech like "ai" systems and facebook but generally it was always complicated and hard to achieve +--- 15381381 +>>15380106 +Old NASA rockets are like hand made swiss luxury watches, you would need the engineers that worked on them for a good replication. +Spacex is trying to make cheap but reliable rockets that can be reused, they are like CASIO watches. +--- 15381419 +>>15381266 +https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=toVfvRhWbj8 [Embed] +--- 15381564 +>>15381129 +Better rocket engines +--- 15381574 +>>15381564 +Which ones can get me to the Moon? +--- 15381612 +>>15381574 +Probably the ones that can operate in a vacuum. +--- 15381862 +>>15381266 +this doesnt have any sense, +>At a certain point it's just easier to design a new system based around the stuff you currently have available. +that stuff is considered archaic compared from what we have now, why would be easier to design a new system that is prone to fail or not getting the expected results instead of replicate the same designs that worked, not only once, but even 4 times?? +I get it, things like muskeets for example, would be expensive to fabricate compared to a glock, because parts and trade shit, but is not impossible to recreate it, and money shouldnt be a problem, the state or multibillionaires have enough of that. +--- 15381873 +>>15379089 (OP) +>falcon 9 +>220 successful launches +>no one can make a working rocket +Not the brightest crayon in the bunch are you anon? +--- 15382082 +>>15380957 +>>15380979 +--- 15382308 +>>15381873 +Leftist fags hate the fact that the best rockets right now are made by a corporation and extra salty that the CEO is a chud that makes fun of them on twitter. +--- 15382666 +Western culture peaked 50 years ago and has been on the decline ever since. The Americans who worked at NASA in the 60s & 70s started out with years of rigorous education from childhood, same goes for the Germans. Modern kids get the "everyone is a winner" lowest common denominator version of education. +--- 15382751 +>>15382666 (Thanks Satan) +Now you can just imagine niggers bouncing up and down on the desks, shaking their asses as some of the rowdy boys start throwing beakers at the professor. In the back, some 20 year old nigs who have been held back a few years are trying to cook meth. +--- 15382783 +>>15379089 (OP) +What's there even to do in space? +--- 15382790 +>>15381129 +Falcon 9 +--- 15382821 +>>15382783 +>Why do white people climb mountains? +--- 15382861 +>>15382821 +We've been to space already +--- 15382870 +>>15382861 +Because we want to Explore, Expand, Exploit and Exterminate. +--- 15382885 +>>15380166 +This guy knows +--- 15382921 +>>15379089 (OP) +we had to babysit libtards pets. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4&pp=ygUSd2hpdGV5IG9uIHRoZSBtb29u [Embed] +--- 15383403 +>>15379753 +If the gentiles are so great then how can Jews subvert them so easily? Sounds like a cope. +--- 15383418 +>>15382921 +>Comments are turned off. Learn more +--- 15384213 +>>15379805 +You do not belong here +--- 15384221 +>>15384213 +True. Nobody and no opinion deserves respect on 4chan, and I like it that way. Respecting other's opinions is a toxic behavior. +--- 15384406 +>>15380106 +SLS is essentially a latest edition Saturn V merged with a Shuttle propulsion system. The combination of solid rocket boosters and RS-25s get you significantly more boost than the old F-1s. +--- 15384412 +>>15380106 +Protuction line has been dismantled since the late 60s (yes, the Saturn V production line was closed by the time of Apollo 11), and it's just completely outdated now, we've got way better technology and getting back to their level would be comparatively harder and more expensive. diff --git a/sci/15379179.txt b/sci/15379179.txt index 5c12567cf0edafa37707bec0a2894f8b0ecc5f4d..b28ab840cab5ed1f2f9281c1fa568152309a80ed 100644 --- a/sci/15379179.txt +++ b/sci/15379179.txt @@ -62,3 +62,30 @@ I would bet lots of money on Cleo being a bored hobbyist. Not a mathematician by >Secondly Cleo has clear interests. Both of your points could just as well support the Cleo-as-AI hypothesis, the second one especially. As for your first argument, while demonstrating superhuman ability is a sign of AI, it does not follow that AIs must demonstrate superhuman ability. Cleo in particular predates the age of transformers and LLMs, as you can verify by the date of the OP pic. +--- 15381075 +>>15380680 +AI is totally unnecessary as a hypothesis when we know there are humans who are at Cleo's level of skill, whereas we lack an AI which can do that, even now. It's an overly complicated theory which doesn't really explain much. +--- 15381919 +>>15379612 +Complex analysis. +Suppose the sqrt branch cut is the positive reals (so it is on the interval [-1,1]). +Let 2I be the value of the integral that loops around the interval [-1,1]. You can verify it is 2I or -2I depending on the branch you choose. + +Now there is a trick to treat the log branch cuts as infinitely many poles. +[math]\oint_C f(z) \sum\limits_{n=0}^{(b-a)/\Delta}{ \Delta \over z-(a+n\Delta)}dz = 2\pi i\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx \\ += \oint_C f(z)\int_{a}^{b}{dx \over z-x}dz = \oint_C f(z)log({z-a \over z-b})dz.[/math] + +Deforming the original contour to circle the two log branch cuts allows you to use this to get: +[math]2I=2\pi i (\int\limits_{{i-1 \over 2}}^{{i+1 \over 2}}-\int\limits_{{-i-1 \over 2}}^{{-i+1 \over 2}}){1 \over z}\sqrt{1+z \over 1-z} dz\\ +=-4\pi *Im[\int\limits_{{i-1 \over 2}}^{{i+1 \over 2}}{1 \over z}\sqrt{1+z \over 1-z} dz]\\ +=4\pi Re[\int\limits_{{\pi \over 4}}^{{3\pi \over 4}}\sqrt{\sqrt{2}+e^{i\theta} \over \sqrt{2}-e^{i\theta}} d\theta].[/math] + +You can just use wolfram for integrating sqrt(cot(x)) then plug in the appropriate limits to get a closed form then just simplify. +>>15379179 (OP) +Cleo probably just has a wolfram/mathematica subscription or something similar. +--- 15382102 +>>15379502 +>her +--- 15383389 +>>15381919 +Mathematica is absolutely not able to do the kind of integrals Cleo was doing. diff --git a/sci/15379475.txt b/sci/15379475.txt index 317ea223310e81ad3ed932521de2cff61412f5d2..ddad3b5430cef7bd6a021abe4fa8953b7ad33dcc 100644 --- a/sci/15379475.txt +++ b/sci/15379475.txt @@ -14,3 +14,47 @@ https://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/news-events/news/rocket-launches-more-polluting-than- Every line of this OP is garbage --- 15380232 shut the fuck up +--- 15382938 +>>15379475 (OP) +GB2R +--- 15383363 +>>15379475 (OP) +>Is it true that Elon Musk's rockets are the number one polluter in the whole world? +No, China Coal Energy is the world largest polluter. +--- 15383552 +>>15379475 (OP) +Good thing methalox rockets don't produce any soot or particulate exhaust, except for a small amount of pulverized concrete. +--- 15383570 +Fuck off +--- 15383573 +>>15383570 +2/2 +--- 15383737 +>>15379475 (OP) +>Is it true that Elon Musk's rockets are the number one polluter in the whole world? +Nah. +--- 15383739 +Carbon isn't a pollutant; the HIV which op spreads over the face of the earth is far more dangerous +--- 15383820 +>>15379475 (OP) +And? Worth it. We have to start leaving the crib some time. +--- 15384040 +>>15383570 +7pbp +/thread +--- 15384103 +>>15383570 +>CO2 is still 0.4% of the atmosphere +It’s all so tiring. +Water vapor holds more heat than CO2. +--- 15384123 +>>15379475 (OP) +Extrapolated leftyanon, extrapolated +--- 15384192 +>>15384103 +>the problem is that the seas suddenly appeared in the '70s +lol retard +--- 15384236 +>>15384192 +…Do you think “climate change” started in the 1970s?? +Or are you trolling? diff --git a/sci/15379528.txt b/sci/15379528.txt index 910f1d8a5a58bd49f5df7a2b4cd9784701cc5cac..a2ccfd37cf2e10ace548d688a8db9496e15a2275 100644 --- a/sci/15379528.txt +++ b/sci/15379528.txt @@ -109,3 +109,231 @@ for x in array: --- 15380931 >>15380856 for x in array { if x < min_1 then min_1 = x; else if x < min_2 then min_2 = x; } +--- 15381187 +>>15379994 +Ah, yes, forgive me for being an idiot. The theorem is right here. Does it make the problem any clearer? +--- 15381199 +>>15381187 +The problem was already clear. The area under the curve is the integral so the difference in areas is the difference of the two integrals. +--- 15381218 +>>15381199 +Well, yes, but how does the expression simplify to +[eqn] +\int^2_0 (\frac{5}{2}x - x^2) dx +[/eqn] +from where it started? +--- 15381241 +>>15381218 +wtf? That's the easy part. + +[math]g(x) - f(x) = x/2 - x(x - 2) = x/2 - x^2 + 2x = 5x/2 - x^2[/math] +--- 15381262 +>>15381241 +I have no justification for being this stupid, I'm just going to thank you for your patience and hope your life improves from wherever it is now for your kindness. +--- 15381487 +Can anyone recommend me a good book or source for a review of trig? I'm taking a calc course soon and haven't done either calculus or trig in years. I have a rough grasp on the basic concepts still, but definitely am a bit fuzzy on it overall. But I also dont want to spend too much time and bog myself down on every little detail. +--- 15381724 +>>15381487 +Have you looked at khanacademy? +--- 15382352 +I need to find an equality for [math]\varepsilon[/math] in terms of [math]x[/math], [math]y[/math] and [math]\gamma[/math]. I'm stuck on this problem for hours and I can't make any progress, any help would be appreciated + +[eqn] +\begin{cases} + +|x_n-x|<\varepsilon\\ +|y_n-y|<\varepsilon\\ +|(x_n+y_n) - (x+y)|<\gamma\\ +|(x_n-y_n) - (x-y)| < \gamma\\ +\left| \frac{x_n}{y_n} - \frac{x}{y} \right| < \gamma\\ +|x_ny_n-xy|<\gamma + +\end{cases} +[/eqn] +--- 15382389 +>>15382352 +>An inequality for [math]\varepsilon[/math] +You already have two, and it appears [math]\varepsilon[/math] is unbounded from above. What are you trying to do? +--- 15382393 +>>15382389 +I need an equality, not an inequality +--- 15382419 +>>15382393 +That's not possible I'm afraid. +--- 15382440 +>>15382419 +it has to be possible +--- 15382442 +>>15382440 +Why do you think so? +--- 15382456 +>>15382442 +because otherwise my professor wouldn't have given this problem to us +--- 15382496 +>>15382456 +*shrug* If [math]y_n=y=1[/math] your latter four inequalities just state [math]|x_n-x|<\gamma[/math] and that doesn't imply anything about epsilon. +--- 15382507 +I have an expression of the form [math]\frac{\partial Y}{\partial x}dx[/math] +When I've finished finding the partial derivative I'm left with that bare differential with no corresponding differential in the denominator. What am I supposed to do with it +--- 15382508 +>>15380868 +Useless answer, the point is *how* to store the smallest elements in 1 loop. + +>>15380869 +Even after fixing this so that 'second_min > current_min' works (it wouldn't because they're both INF at the start) it fails when then min is the first element, e.g: +var arr := [3, 6, 8, 11, 15] +var x :int = 4 + +>>15380931 +Fails if the 2nd min is before the 1st min, e.g: +var arr := [1, 6, 8, 11, 15] +var x :int = 4 + +Hope you guys aren't this useless for other questions. +--- 15382510 +>>15382352 +>>15382456 +Nobody would have any clue why your professor is doing anything without the context behind the question. Other than by guessing. Such as what class you're in, what tools or what notes you've taken relevant to the question, what your professor is wanting you to do or use? + +You haven't made it very easy to help you. +--- 15382536 +>>15382352 +Are these inequalities part of a system of equations +or are each of them to be taken somewhat +separately? +--- 15382562 +>>15382508 +>Hope you guys aren't this useless for other questions. +You get what you pay for. +--- 15382701 +>>15382496 +>>15382510 +there are some other informations on the problem, but it basically nails down to that system of inequalities. there is: + +(a) if [math]a,\;a_1,\;b,\;b_1[/math] are real numbers with [math]a,b[/math] not zero and +[eqn] +|a-a_1|<\varepsilon \quad , \quad |b-b_1|<\varepsilon +[/eqn] +then +[eqn] +|(a+b)-(a_1+b_1)|<2\varepsilon \; , \; |(a-b)-(a_1-b_1)|<2\varepsilon + \; .[/eqn] + +(b) if the real numbers [math]x,y[/math] are such that [math]|x|<a,\; |y|<b[/math] and [math]\Delta x \; , \; \Delta y[/math] are both less than [math]\varepsilon[/math], with [math]\varepsilon<1[/math], then +[eqn] +|(x+\Delta x)(y+\Delta y) - xy| < (a+b+1)\varepsilon \; . +[/eqn] + +(c) if the real numbers [math]x,y[/math] are such that [math]y\neq 0[/math] and if [math]\Delta x, \Delta y[/math] are such that [math]|\Delta x|<\varepsilon, \; |\Delta y|<\varepsilon[/math], with [math]\varepsilon < \frac{|y|}{2}[/math], then +[eqn] +\left| \frac{x+\Delta x}{y+ \Delta y} - \frac{x}{y} \right| < \varepsilon\frac{2(|x|+|y|)}{|y|^2} \; . +[/eqn] + +now, suppose that [math](x_n)_{n\in\mathbb{N}}[/math] and [math](y_n)_{n\in\mathbb{N}}[/math] are sequences of real numbers with +[eqn] +\lim_{n\to\infty}x_n=x \; \mathrm{and} \; \lim_{n\to\infty}y_n=y +[/eqn] +i.e., for any [math]\varepsilon>0[/math] we can obtain a [math]n_0[/math] s.t. for all [math]n>n_0[/math] we have [math]|x_n-x|<\varepsilon\; \mathrm{and} \; |y_n-y|<\varepsilon[/math]. now suppose that [math]|y|>0[/math] and [math]\gamma[/math] is a strictly positive number. the task is to find an equality for [math]\varepsilon[/math] in terms of [math]x,y,\gamma[/math] such that the inequalities + +[eqn] +|(x_n+y_n)-(x+y)| < \gamma,\; |(x_n-y_n)-(x-y)| < \gamma,\; \left|\frac{x_n}{y_n}-\frac{x}{y}\right|<\gamma,\; |(x_ny_n)-(xy)|<\gamma +[/eqn] +are simultaneously true + +>>15382536 +I don't get what you mean by taking them separately +--- 15382760 +>>15382562 +Fails for arr = [1, 6, 8, 11, 15], point = 4. Gives 2 for both. +--- 15382813 +>>15382760 +for x in array { d = distance(point,x); if d < min_1 then min_2 = min_1, min_1 = d; else if d < min_2 then min_2 = d; } +--- 15382873 +>>15382701 +I see what you mean. You have bounded a sum, product, difference and ratio with an arbitrary epsilon, and you now want one that works for all at the same time. You can just take the minimum of whatever: [math]\varepsilon = \min\{\frac{\gamma}{2}, \frac12, \frac{\gamma}{|x|+|y|+1}, \frac{|y|}{2}, \frac{\gamma|y|^2}{2(|x|+|y|)}\}[/math]. +--- 15382884 +>>15382813 +Well done, thanks. +--- 15382930 +>>15382701 +Oh, okay, that helps. The equality should then be like an iterated limit, something given by the likes of the moore-osgood theorem. You're doing multivariate calculus or calc 3, right? I think this kind of thing is the relevant text to help +https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Calculus/Calculus_3e_(Apex)/01%3A_Limits/1.02%3A_Epsilon-Delta_Definition_of_a_Limit +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iterated_limit + +Or are you before you'd be doing epsilon-delta limits? I don't want to solve your problem for you so I'm trying to be more roundabout in giving suggestions to help you figure out what you have to be reading. Though the professor and class, and your class textbook, should all already be doing that? Or am I wrong in supposing that is what your'e doing? I guess you mean this due to stating you need to find an equality, and the relevant equality or one of them could be an iterated limit. +--- 15383016 +Stupid question. +Is there any sort of quick and simple chemical testing I can do to test for the presence of Adderall in drinks like milk or water? +--- 15383262 +For the Human Genome Project, they used reference genomes to piece it all together. They used different anonymous donors, both male and female, to make a mosaic genome. + +Is there anywhere where a single human specimen genome can be accessed from these donations? Even if it's a mosaic, is there any way someone could read the DNA and "recreate" a simulacrum of a human being by sussing out the alleles? +>t. knows fuck about genetics +--- 15383448 +>[math] H\left(Y\mid X\right) \;\leq\; H\left(Y\right) [/math] with equality iff [math] X [/math] and [math] Y [/math] are independent +I managed to prove the first part for the general case (entropies of σ-algebras). Does the equality case generalize as well? What do I need to know to prove it? +--- 15383577 +>>15382701 +>>15382536 +What I mean is you take the first two questions +and use it to solve out the fourth question, for +example. And the fifth question is independent +to the fourth--it's done separately. +--- 15383591 +Intro to physics (calculus based) is making me want to kms. Any tips on how to wrap my head around this shit? +--- 15383926 +>>15383591 +Too general of a question to answer. +--- 15384003 +>>15382873 +but how do I get to this? do you have any tips? +>>15382930 +>The equality should then be like an iterated limit +I don't get it +>You're doing multivariate calculus or calc 3, right? +the calculus division is different in my country, but I guess this is supposed to be single variable calculus +>>15383577 +oh I see. that's how I first approached the problem, but I didn't get any progress +--- 15384067 +Do physicists have a single term for both energy and matter? Matter is just clumped energy, right? Ought to have one umbrella term then. +--- 15384178 +>>15384067 +That would be incredibly stupid since physically they are very different. It would be like using the same term for ice, water, and steam. +--- 15384307 +How to show [math]\cos x + \frac{2p}{\pi}\sin x \geq 1-2\left(\frac{x}{\pi}\right)^p[/math] for all [math]0\leq x\leq \pi, p\in\mathbb R[/math]? I am getting filtered. +--- 15384316 +>>15384003 +What I'm doing is essentially the following: if for any [math]\varepsilon > 0[/math], [math]|a| < K_1\varepsilon[/math] and [math]|b| < K_2\varepsilon[/math], then if *you* choose [math]\varepsilon = \min\{\frac{\gamma}{K_1}, \frac{\gamma}{K_2}\}[/math] then you find that [math]|a| < K_1\varepsilon \leq K_1 \frac{\gamma}{K_1} = \gamma[/math] and [math]|b| < K_2\varepsilon \leq K_2 \frac{\gamma}{K_2} = \gamma[/math] simultaneously. +--- 15384403 +If I don't trust myself to make an SDS-PA gel right the first time, is there any harm in running it with just one lane of ladder, examining it to make sure it's good, and then loading it with samples and a new ladder? This might give me confidence that I'm not wasting sample on a fucked gel. +--- 15384422 +>>15384067 +Energy (of which the rest energy is a part) +When one talks about the energy of a system or object, usually only the energy considered extractable is implied. +Example: a spring-mass system. It's at some temperature, but none of the components can convert thermal energy in any significant way, so we consider the total energy of the system to include the gravitational potential energy of the mass, the elastic potential energy of the spring, and the kinetic energy of the mass, but not the thermal energy of the components, the rest energy of the mass, or anything else. +--- 15384436 +>>15384003 +>the calculus division is different in my country, but I guess this is supposed to be single variable calculus +I wasn't wrong then but perhaps the calc 3 reference was too much. Here's a calc-1 reference with example problems and walkthroughs. https://math.libretexts.org/Courses/Monroe_Community_College/MTH_210_Calculus_I_(Seeburger)/02%3A_Limits/2.07%3A_The_Precise_Definition_of_a_Limit +>>15384316 +You completely threw me off in the first place by saying "equality" instead of "true". +Your notes here explain every single step >>15382701 +Do (a), then (b), then (c). I'm not sure given the complete notes where you're having trouble. Step (a)? Steb (b)? Step (c)? The steps are nearly totally linear from steps (a) to (c) in your first post >>15382352 +Literally all you have to do is exactly that in that order of the information you just gave. You need to get real specific about where you get lost. What I recommend is checking the libretext page I just linked first, and solve it as shown there. +--- 15384449 +>>15384436 +These are my posts: +>>15384316 +>>15382873 +I didn't ask the question, but re-reading my post maybe that wasn't very clear. +--- 15384453 +>>15384449 +Whups clicked the wrong post but you know who I meant anyhow. My bad. +--- 15384490 +>>15384316 +but what are the [math]K_1,K_2[/math]? and why can I assume that +>[math]\varepsilon = \mathrm{min}\{\frac{\gamma}{K_1},\frac{\gamma}{K_2}\}[/math] +? +>>15384436 +thank you for the reference. +as far as I understand the problem, I have to take (a), (b) and (c) as truth and solve the system of inequalities, but I don't really see how they are related diff --git a/sci/15379538.txt b/sci/15379538.txt index 5b378132fc970569f3af7f225176dfdb149f8304..482f5413007749364c06c42be61f773db8fee52c 100644 --- a/sci/15379538.txt +++ b/sci/15379538.txt @@ -84,3 +84,47 @@ Scientists pretend to seek understanding, solve problems and develop interventio >>15379538 (OP) >Explain everything Impossible, but it doesn't matter - it's the pursuit that matters. +--- 15381196 +>>15380841 +Like a hamster running in his cage +--- 15381270 +>>15379538 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUL7y8AMeU8 [Embed] + +When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them. +--- 15383082 +>>15379548 +Primitive instincts are fun. + +The alternative is to be a Jew that writes walls of text all day. Which can be fun too but I'd like to have the best of both worlds. +--- 15383090 +>>15379566 +Yep it could be worse than futile. Maybe someone builds an Ai that enslaves the galaxy. Then people would wish to go back to the days when human achievements were just futile. +--- 15383104 +>>15380702 +That is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. +--- 15383738 +>>15379538 (OP) +>ok we can imagine it could be done +That's really all that is +--- 15383756 +>>15383104 +Explain why. To me it doesn't make sence to do literally anything while we are still mortal. Death is the biggest problem we face, we should postpone solving our other problems until we solve THE biggest one. +--- 15383763 +>>15379538 (OP) +>ok we can imagine it could be done and then ? +Bend it to our will and make it better, a universe than runs perpetually by our own rules. + +Assuming we can use this knowledge to spread throughout the galaxy and eventually solve that pesky entropy problem. +--- 15384382 +>>15383763 +Who's rules? I don't even like some of the rules the current humans have. +--- 15384384 +>>15383756 +You'd have to first sterilize 99% of the population. If you cured death it would cause massive overpopulation +--- 15384397 +>>15379538 (OP) +Explain how everything works +--- 15384404 +>>15383756 +Cancer is the biggest problem we face since its a preprogrammed RNA malfunction in our very physical makeup. diff --git a/sci/15379590.txt b/sci/15379590.txt index c7f4d8173e1cfcaf2b5e2c070741514f279f8a01..189daba935ea487b8c09f200db2c5c79855a2cde 100644 --- a/sci/15379590.txt +++ b/sci/15379590.txt @@ -77,3 +77,308 @@ Money, location, career path? I had a parasitology class where 'Protozoa and Human Disease' by Wiser was used. It's a pretty good introduction to protozoan diseases. --- 15380677 Picrel relevant to thread +--- 15380964 +>>15380677 +Ant farming? Ants grow just fine by themselves +What would you even harvest? +>>15379620 +I have an incline that somewhat soon the research into ant and bee behaviour will get much more interesting when robot swarm technology becomes a reality +I would wager Boston Dynamics already in a few years could pull of a small "colony" of chihuahua sized robots with the "queen" being big slow command centre on wheels with recharging slots and 20+ workers/soldiers that perform simple tasks and integrate. Imagine something like an RTS +--- 15382811 +>>15379590 (OP) +Ayy nice ant finds +--- 15382868 +>>15379590 (OP) +Anyone have something more formalized like modeling complex behaviors in humans pertaining to biology re: gene associations with behavioral phenotypes and so forth? Given the complexity is likely a matter of dynamical systems I'm looking for something more in that vain to further my reading on it. I've picked at the subject off and on for some years now but most of my reading is unrelated to biology, and a lot of publications on the subject are with respect to molecular activity rather than behaviors, or epidemiology, etc. + +Keep finding papers related or taking baby steps in that direction but I'm looking for perhaps more advanced lectures, or books, or research of greater scope and rigor. Only very recently, mostly the past few years, do I find anything pertinent to the depth I'm looking for. Such as https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35236532/ + +It doesn't seem like there's some subspecialization for this high level recursive interaction of behaviors and self-assortative patterning, or at least not that I can find. If there is I'd like to know about it. So far I just find individual papers from a bunch of disconnected scientists who, while perhaps citing one another sometimes or other works in that vein, don't seem to have some name to attribute their work to. Like behavioral biology dynamical modeling or something. Anything in this vein? +--- 15382905 +>>15379590 (OP) +Just a reminder that cancer is man made and caused by viruses that modify your genome. +--- 15383284 +>>15382868 +Are you familiar with the concept of phenotype range? https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/phenotypic-range-of-gene-expression-environmental-influence-581/ +The basic gist is that genetic background sets for us the lowest and highest possible expression of each specific phenotype. +Imagine it like a settings menu in an old CRPG with a billion sliders. The position of these billion sliders is determined by the environment. + +In other words, genetic background deals the cards, the environment plays them. +I'll read the article when I get time +--- 15383318 +>>15383284 +>Are you familiar with the concept of phenotype range? +Yes. You also seem to be approaching this as if I'm at undergrad level or lower, and missing what I'm talking about entirely. Possibly as a result of that. Given I'm asking about modeling of complex systems at the level of behavioral phenotypes and the like, I'm not sure why that is. +>In other words, genetic background deals the cards, the environment plays them. +That is a very bad analogy, but in any case I don't need that explained to me. Not by a long shot. I'm asking about something highly technical with respect to modeling complex and chaotic systems and phenotypic feedback loops. Not genes themselves, not merely undergrad gene-environment interaction, not assortative mating, not phenotypic range, or anything about epistasis, or epigenetics. I am asking about the "complex dynamics", as in dynamical systems modeling, of phenotypic variation and phenotype feedback loops with respect to gene-environment interactions. + +I'm asking if there's a more specific subfield or specialization concerning phenotypes and modeling behaviors and their interactions with respect to human behavioral biology. In other words, combining dynamical systems research you more often see in molecular biology with complex phenotypes. I've found various papers of that sort over the years but in spite of that it is possible I missed a subfield, or relevant jargon, to find something more. + +I am most definitely not asking undergrad questions about genes or environments or phenotypes and phenotypic plasticity or variation. Excepting where such would involve what I just described, regarding their complex dynamics and features like feedback loops. +--- 15383345 +>>15383318 +>>15383284 +Though I should point out reaction norms (re: phenotype plasticity/range) and research on that is closer and related to modeling such dynamics. I'm just not looking for papers that are at some superficial level on it, and more of a formalized one. Thanks anyway. Do you have something more on what I am trying to get at? When you get home and have the time. +--- 15383362 +>>15383318 +> I've picked at the subject off and on for some years now but most of my reading is unrelated to biology, and a lot of publications on the subject are with respect to molecular activity rather than behaviors, or epidemiology, etc. +Excuse me for reading that as an indication that you might be less familiar with the undergrad level biological concepts. It was just a probing reply to check the level of discussion. Just because your question is complex doesn't indicate high level of expertise un the subject. +I can also understand that you might be frustrated since you've been searching for such things for years now, but I would advise you to not be so abrasive in the way you talk. I just happened to be in a good mood so I won't let it bother me,but there might be anons that know much more on the subject that will take offence. + +If you wish to avoid that in the future I would recommend giving your background in the post at the end. + +My background is in neurophysiology, specifically Alzheimer's and academically I'm working on my master's degree. If you consider that to be not high enough for your level of discussion, that your prerogative. + +Also, no need to go full jargon, lovering intensity from 80% to 60% would be a good idea I think. It won't help with repelling Sophists and just makes you sound even more standoffish. + +I'm still skimming through the article. I'll not be looking into modeling details since it's not my area of expertise and at first glance it looks rigorous enough. +Interesting discussion section though +>ta. To elaborate, some researchers expected to find +a small number of genes (e.g., less than 15) with biologically plau- +sible causal pathways to a phenotype. Moreover, these researchers +thought that this small number of genes would explain most of the +genetic variability in the phenotype. However, we often find a large +number of genes related to a given phenotype, many of which have +no biologically plausible connections. +--- 15383376 +>>15383362 +If you're the Russian, we talk regularly. I just happen to be asking about a very specific and very niche area of the research. Or I would hope you realize by now I'm not talking out my ass when I get curious about something. You seemed to dismiss my seriousness so I tried to double down and make it clear what level and what subject or modeling I hoped for more information on. + +You know me, more math than biology and a childish love of dinosaurs. This is one of those things where I was fishing for broader ranging scope on the same thing. +>I'm still skimming through the article. I'll not be looking into modeling details since it's not my area of expertise and at first glance it looks rigorous enough. +Nah it was just given as an example not a question about its rigor. I'm asking for suggestions or similar reading, or if there's perhaps a specialization I missed the naming of someplace. For neurology there's plenty of similar research with respect to modeling the threshold-feedback systems of intraneural or communication, I'm sure you're aware or at least know about if you use MRI related tools with respect to machine learning or that "deep learning" stuff. Basically that, but with respect to cognitive and behavioral phenotypes and the like as what I posted. + +Also neurology would be relevant to that but on a higher level even so, so papers on that matter might be a relevant avenue I haven't explored. +--- 15383379 +>>15383376 +Interneural* Fuck me goddamnit +--- 15383395 +Here are the passages I found interesting +1) ta. To elaborate, some researchers expected to find +a small number of genes (e.g., less than 15) with biologically plau- +sible causal pathways to a phenotype. Moreover, these researchers +thought that this small number of genes would explain most of the +genetic variability in the phenotype. However, we often find a large +number of genes related to a given phenotype, many of which have +no biologically plausible connections +2) These same attenuation effects hold for +modern molecular designs, yet the techniques of the modern +genomics era typically ignore all nonlinearity or adjust for only +the simplest forms of nonlinearity (e.g., dominance) while ignoring +others (e.g., higher-order gene interactions and gene-by-environ- +ment interactions). Thus, there are certainly causal genetic mech- +anisms that are not found because they are nonlinear +3) Specifically, people who are closely related may also share many +of the same environmental influences, and consequently, may both +experience the same gene-by-environment interactions. The kind +of heritability detected due to A–C interaction in our simulation is +not, however, the same additive source of variation expected by a +GWAS or GCTA, and may be regarded as a separate kind of her- +itability altogether +4) Developmental studies of behaviorally complex traits com- +monly find that the relative influence of genes is greatest later in +life (Haworth et al., 2010; Plomin, et al., 1994), due in part to +delayed genetic expression, and in part because most environmen- +tal influences are transient. After creating a simple, linear genetic +developmental model, Eaves, et al., (1986) also found that even +Development... +...small genetic effects “may have cumulative effects on individual +phenotypes that far outweigh the substantial but unsystematic +effects of the environment.” (p. 153). +=> +--- 15383408 +>>15383395 +Here's the crown jewel at the end +5) At present, however, it is infeasible to collect phenotypic and environmental +scores at sufficient resolution over the lifespan to fully fit the given +equations, which were intended as abstract guides to developmen- +tal theory + +I'm afraid that I don't know of any studies, let alone articles of the magnitude that would be required to model what you are asking about, at least until machine learning is implemented as a standard tool in meta analysis. + +There are at least 2 major factors that retard the developments in this field in my estimation. +1) The complexity described in the passages and the whole article +2) it's human research that will probably require lifelong subjects, you can only get so far with meta studies and raw data from medical institutions if they even provide you with that. +I would love to be talking out of my ass about this, but I think considering that we have heritability crisis, replicability crisis and probably some other Crisis in the field and it's been that way for 10 years at least doesn't instill hope that it would be done within 10 years from now. +Maybe if the brain connectome is completed soon and the AI can begin to run simulated brains? But no, it would be a single brain with a single phenotype probably, making the whole system that modulated neurogenesis from a genetic code is sci fi a pipedream at this point... +--- 15383424 +>>15382868 +Alas I do CS but +Check out the books by Andrew Adamatzky. He has put a lot of effort into bringing computation tools to a biological setting. +I'm not sure if your dynamics are in a measurable space but learning what a Lyapunov exponent is should be helpful dealing with measurements & the trajectory of some I.C.. +Perhaps the areas of Synergetics is helpful. +Course Graining could be helpful is your question is more substantively marco. + +The problem I've seen with doing 'human' size dynamics is the program takes months on decent hardware due to atomistic simulation. 'human' size here is 2 fairly large proteins. +--- 15383435 +>>15383395 +>>15383408 +Yeah that's another example of what I was looking more for, and why I thought it would interest you a lot. There is or would be a considerable degree of overlap in what I'm doing mathematically and how it might be useful to you and multifactorial diseases like alzheimer's. + +I've been doing a lot more reading and expanding of my understanding of ergodic theory related to other stuff I do, and a few posts I saw around /sci/ lately reminded me that it'd be relevant for some discussions had here. Remembered reading various biology related publications on it. Went and reread a few but found little on modeling behavioral "cognitive feedback loops" pertaining to neural homeostatic dysregulation. I specifically thought about alzheimer's and the relevance it has to you, especially with regard to associations like deafness and progression associations with regard to hastening mental decline. + +Such things are usually described with terms like homeostasis in medicine or biology, but in mathematics it would be as a conservative system or measure-preserving dynamical system (ergodic theory). Both being relevant more broadly to entropy of course. This might be something of great interest to you as a different avenue of research, if the tipping points or "fuzzy edges" of said tipping points can be identified behaviorally through this kind of analysis. As noted >>15383408 shits hard. + +In modeling the dysregulation of that homeostasis with respect to alzheimer's it would follow as a systems collapse which, also in mathematics, would be akin to that of a progressively dissipative system. The thing is MOST of what I find on that for alzheimer's and neurology is homeostasis in the brain but not with respect to the kind of "behavioral tendency/oscillations" reinforcing the "downward spiral", or system dysregulation. Most relevant to you I think might be represented by homeostatic synaptic plasticity in response to that feedback loop that tilts toward dysregulation. +--- 15383442 +>>15383424 +Yeah such modeling is definitely relevant on a practical level. Can't hurt, though I don't really do much of it. + +In this case though I don't think the granularity of things below macro scale behaviors would be informative. At least not with respect to its relation to behavior and cognitive phenotypes in relation to something like alzheimer's. Though I am using that as a vehicle as one example of what I am talking about more than suggesting it has an exclusive application. Nor is my notion unique at all, of course. + +I'm pretty sure meaningful analysis could be done with respect to patterns of behavior over time, and phenotypic expression, without needing to compound uncertainties and complexities by drilling to bedrock like metabolic systems. So I'm not talking about bottom-up dynamics like that, the computational difficulty would be fuckin silly. +--- 15383460 +>>15383435 +That's very interesting indeed, but as we've discussed here (or at least I bitched and moaned about it) we have big fraud scandal with roots starting with some guy copy pasting some blots since like 2008 until last year and everyone just going with it despite not being able to replicate results. That puts dozens of articles into question but more importantly the gentlemanly approach to science and especially funding is going to be scrutinized. There are two possible outcomes. +A) everything goes just as it did with maybe some small adjustments to the peer review process concerning this particular thing (Amyloid hypothesis). Then the respect for science just continues to decline and we continue to ignore the systemic problems +B) There's a big investigation and restructuring in the AD research world. Everyone gets smeared, scientific process essentially halts for a few years while this is going on and maybe things get better, or maybe they get worse. + +Also if the prospects for this are this bad with 2 aforementioned issues, you can now add that investors would be reluctant to sink another load of money into this well that doesn't produce results other than profits for big pharma and positive vibes. +Though it would be easier on the 1) thing since it's possible to advocate for early diagnosis and create a special centre for caring after patients in exchange for data with their permission while they're still cognizant and present. +--- 15383469 +>>15383460 +I mislabeled. +What I meant was that it would be easier to deal with the 2) issue from here >>15383408 but there would be a 3) issue specific to the absolute state of AD research 2023 +--- 15383479 +>>15383435 +>>15383284 +Anyway I'm using a lot of jargon because I have a very low text limit to get my point across. Sorry. It has to be very dense. I'm trying to explain there is a very interesting intersection pertaining to things like AD that you might also want to take the time to investigate too, pertaining to neurology, because the neural features and anatomical features evolve over time with respect to the very same phenotypic feedback. + +Yes, phenotypic range is definitely related, and that would be the reason for its largely sporadic nature and inconsistent GWAS correlates as with most multifactorial diseases. For the level of granularity required of genetics that complexity >>15383408 is an issue but I don't think it's an issue at the level of neurophsyiological correlates you'd be studying and cognitive-behavioral phenotypes. Not as cause, no, but as a pattern of reciprocal environment and behaviors (hence ergodicity) reinforcing progressive dysregulation. My point is the ratio relative to the degree of "preserving" or central tendnecy in the system is what matters and ergo could be causal or the driving mechanism. + +Another example relevant there is how that plays into heritability increasing with age. The homology or "sameness" of phenotypes and their statistical relatedness between people grows over time as an assortative function, like assortative mating but more generally. As applied to alzheimer's for example, as a matter of assortative environment matching correlative to but not causal to the disease. Same goes for the neuranatomical features. Instead the cause could be, as with dynamical systems and progressive dissipation, or per biology homeostatic dysregulation( e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2001037022005098 ), the ratio of destabilization to equilibrium reinforcement. i.e. degree to which the holistic reaction norm swings as a matter of relative magnitude not absolutes. +>>15383460 +hence thinking you'd be interested. +--- 15383506 +>>15383479 +>>15383460 +So relevant to you would be the concept of an attractor, or that homeostatic preserving tendency, and the magnitude relative to the central tendency. Looked at abstractly, that way, I think there could be more progress made and would explain the sporadic presentation of such disorders. More importantly, if it can be quantified in some way neurologically with respect to the "attractor" of homeostasis and degree to which somebody's brain can manage that versus its response to destabilizing stimuli. + +You'd know, mechanistically, better than me to what degree that math could or couldn't work out. Doesn't have anything to do with amyloid. Nonetheless if the entropic tendnecy of the brain as a system can be measured or quantified in some way, then the periodic stressors or destabilizing tendency could also be quantified as a matter of displacing that tendency. Stuff like that has been considered e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8870268/ + +Most interesting, to me, would be your thoughts on how this could present and be made to functionally work out for Alzheimer's and your related specialty. While people have variously quantified or attempted to quantify entropy in the brain I haven't found anything with respect to tendency toward destabilization as a measurement. I think there's a huge potential there even if measured by very distant proxy. +--- 15383520 +>>15383479 +I'll continue to use simpler language and borrow from less technical fields of biology if that's ok. +The thing with heritability increasing with age is that aging itself is quite interesting and complex in practical terms but very understandable in theoritical ones. +By that I mean that by the age of 65 you're certainly not having children and so the natural selection doesn't pressure your genetics to be robust enough to sustain you reliably. That is, after a certain point your maintenance starts to shut off and you become the part of planned obsolescence. +As such if you wanted to monetize this research you'd want to create a model of risk management in the later half of life based on your genetics. +For example, I'm kinda lax on worries about carcinogens and AD inducing factors myself even though I'm terrified of dementia. The reason? I know I'll for of heart failure dur to my medical history. So I focus on keeping my cardiovascular system healthy and that should get be good results. Enhancing this medical history with genetic risk assessment would be great I think. + +It might be a no brainer to those involved in the discussion but I wanted to make that clear to those that lurk here. +--- 15383538 +>>15383506 +Brain entropy is a real term that is mostly connected with neurogenesis and plasticity if I recall. +There must be a balance struck between entropy and determinism to create a healthy brain since it must be able to adapt and mold itself in response to internal and external environment but at the same time not produce epileptic phenotype or something worse. +The main issue in my understanding is that since neurogenesis kind of stops by the age of 25 (which is maybe why the genetic form of AD appears at this age since there is no ability to compensate for the neurodegeneration with neurogenesis) the balance cannot be achieved since it can only be mowed in one direction with no counterweight. +As such promoting neurogenesis or processes that are comparable is the goal of the most treatments that are currently available or being researched. +--- 15383542 +>>15383520 +I know I'll die of heart failure due to my medical history* +I Really need to slow down and check my writing more thoroughly, but I'm kinda in the middle of something +--- 15383546 +>>15383520 +>>15383538 +Again, sorry, it was unavoidable to be jargon heavy given the text limit. Also related to what I'm talking about at least with alzheimer's are findings like these too https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167865519301874 + +As noted in the article entropy as relevant to what I'm talking about is not about early life neuroplasticity or neongenesis. At least not exclusively nor directly. Rather, as a matter of system stability and dynamic range. They're related of course, because the healthier and better functioning your brain is the more, in real terms, it can handle more severe acute instances of "system destabilizing" events. Much the same way, pragmatically, people with healthier lives psychologically better handle stressors without permanently worsening neurosis you see in people who already have very high neuroticism from chronic bad experience. +>>15383542 +>I Really need to slow down and check my writing more thoroughly, but I'm kinda in the middle of something +You might want to revisit this later and look up any terms I'm using you're unfamiliar with, or if my comparison jargon equivalence to biology/medicine weren't clear enough. Such as my use of entropy, which is different from the usual use in other cases. + +A very useful hypothesis for multifactorial diseases would stem from being able to establish some kind of baseline system entropy, and the degree of plasticity in system functioning, as well as destabilizing effect of acute events. So the stronger the tendency toward dissipation would, then, give you probably the earliest possible warning sign of developing alzheimer's or other neurodegenerative diseases. More importantly, what kind of behavioral reinforcing tendencies and lifestyle are most likely to create chronic or "chronically acute" destabilizations. I think that is wholly within the realm of our current modeling ability given we've plenty of behavioral data to correlate with. +--- 15383599 +>>15383546 +Yeah, you're right. +I'll read up on that and return if the thread survives till then. +One last thing I want to highlight is that for this to be implemented soon would require some real cutting of the red tape in most countries. +AD is a touchy subject since patients can be somewhat able to represent themselves legally but the symptoms are making them more defensive, aggressive and unreasonable. Cooperation is always a huge part of the problem with senior citizens and mentally ill people, but unlike mentally ill people the senior citizens usually have some real muscle to create political and financial pressure to derail the research and implementation of the treatments. +Just FYI +See you around, dinasaur math guy (you're welcome to provide some other way you prefer to be referred to). I'm ok with the Russian label, however controversial it might be now btw. + Kinda funny that being Russian now is more damning on the internet than being partly Jewish. I used to get upset a year ago but now I'm just numb, which is the same I had with the constant ZOG allegations +--- 15383623 +>>15383599 +Didn't mean anything by the russian comment just as a point of reference for conversation. Since I had a lot to say but little space to say it, tried conserving space. + +Anyway nothing I mentioned would be especially helpful to elderly patients with progressed dementia as by that point the entropy evident in the system would have such a strong dissipative tendency I sincerely doubt anything can help. As with everything the sooner it's identified and interventions began the sooner you stop or cure (one can hope). Nonetheless modeling progression and tendency that way would give you a very clear idea of treatment response, too, if it can be done cheaply by proxy like with EEG as I saw some articles talk about. + +I just see this great paradigm and potential for finding actual solutions, but as yet it seems highly limited and not helped by the fact it seems most works on this don't have much notice. Like cusp catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophe_theory and papers like this one applying it to neurological data https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/24/8/1089 + +There is immense potential here and it is hardly impossible to model either. Per wikipedia and related citations this may have to do with the fact we lacked the computing power to do even the most basic useful analysis and it was originally a fad in the 1970s. Thing is, like that article I just cited demonstrates, we now have more than enough ability to model such things and make useful predictions. The pieces are definitely there, now, but they're not coming together in making predictions and correlating to phenotypes, longitudinal behavioral data, and GWAS data, even though all the ability to do so exists. A lot of work would be needed to wrangle that data yes but we definitely CAN do it unlike in the 1970s +--- 15383699 +>>15379590 (OP) +https://youtu.be/RYSVFJshT_s [Embed] +Here's my submission on the topic +--- 15383705 +>>15382868 +I figured out the answer to my own question. Took a roundabout bit of thinking to remember the right bits of information and find where I lost myself. What I'm ultimately talking about is just a different application of systems biology, but the subset with respect to merging concepts of dynamical systems theory (system dynamics) growing more common in molecular biology to the level of behaviors and complex phenotypes instead. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_biology +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposome +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_dynamics + +So in the end I figured it out. Now that I got the right jargon there are hundreds of relevant papers e.g. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24176128_Systems_Biology_and_Its_Application_to_the_Understanding_of_Neurological_Diseases +https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.12923 +Whether this is useful or not I don't know, but apparently the bulk of the papers are from the framing of system dynamics as a subset of systems biology. Though most of these seem more focused on a genetic aspect rather than behavioral-cognitive or phenotypes and that feedback loop. Least I figured out where to look. +--- 15383912 +>>15383376 + +>Basically that, but with respect to cognitive and behavioral phenotypes and the like as what I posted. + +Where you wanna go with that again? Correlate complex behavioural patterns with genetic/genomic ones if I understood this correctly? Interesting, quite interesting. You are ofc aware of the layers of complexity here (or "fluidity", both in the biospheric and noospheric department) ... a statistical approach would very likely cut out the most significant parts in favor of amplifying either the sub-average or outright noise. +--- 15384143 +>>15383912 +>Correlate complex behavioural patterns with genetic/genomic ones if I understood this correctly? +I asked about it but I don't personally need that kind of information nor would my notions, no. Very briefly, my notion is need little details. To use the concept of phenotypic "reaction norms" in a more life history sense, the degree to which the phenotype becomes self-reinforcing and therefore expresses higher heritability among a population ought also reflect the degree of entropy the system is dealing with. In one sense one could conceive of this system also as having bifurcations, or akin to "catastrophe theory" that could, or should, be predictable by the degree of adaptiveness and time to convergence toward homeostasis. That is, strength of attractor. Pragmatically that is probably going to translate to how neurotic somebody is at dealing with life, but not exclusively. + +So not needing complex behavioral patterns. Just needing centralizing tendency (convergence time to homeostasis, degree of variance in homeostasis, etc) and stable/reactive entropy. However that works out. I am talking about the system, itself, not its ever changing variables. One need not know the cause of the displacement to know its effects if the end results toward dissipation are predictable by inability to sufficiently reduce entropy. +>a statistical approach would very likely cut out the most significant parts in favor of amplifying either the sub-average or outright noise. +I'm not thinking "big data for big data sake" high dimensionality bullcrap, I'm thinking proportional reactivity measure and likely achievable with very few variables. Sensitivity and specificity and so forth is another matter. Have to read a lot to even find out if my thinking is mistaken. + +In any case there's tons of nonlinear modeling like this with respect to population dynamics, ecology, etc. It's everywhere. Old as the hills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equations +--- 15384162 +>>15384143 + +>To use the concept of phenotypic "reaction norms" in a more life history sense, the degree to which the phenotype becomes self-reinforcing and therefore expresses higher heritability among a population + +Ah, on THAT level, ok got it! Remember there's publications on this (out of the loop for some time now), one issue I've seen here is that if you look at it from a single gene perspective you often do get very "double-edged" results on the behavioural part. Unsurprisingly, as a single gene variant within its overall network can lead to effectively opposite outcomes ... same you could likely apply to traits such as "neuroticism" or "aggressiveness", depending on situation and nurture these could have drastically different outcomes. What you call "catastrophe theory" there is what I would call "thresholds" ... points where a certain geno-phenotype does cross a point of intensity (by feedback) where its influence on the whole system becomes dominant, or at least very pronounced. + +>One need not know the cause of the displacement to know its effects if the end results toward dissipation are predictable by inability to sufficiently reduce entropy. + +True, doesn't matter so much what has provided the impulse to move the system into its "local minima" ... the minima are at least partially preconfigured already, just a question in which one will land. + +>I'm not thinking "big data for big data sake" high dimensionality bullcrap + +Good! Might just be on a good way then. :) + +>A linearization of the equations yields a solution similar to simple harmonic motion[27] with the population of predators trailing that of prey by 90° in the cycle. + +I am not really good at math but I do recognize an oscillation when I see one. ;) +--- 15384193 +>>15384162 +>Ah, on THAT level, ok got it! +Sorry but no and you're telling me ~20 year old information really. Older than that but more generally known 20-30 years ago and most recently affirmed with GWAS causation claims chronically failing replication. Not talking about that, but rather the risk calculations or polygenic score from heritability estimates. Not about genetic causation or simple linear relationships since, again, biology is not additively linear. Does not satisfy the superposition principle. I'm not stupid though it'd be fair to assume it given 99.99% of this board has /pol/tard level retardation when it comes to genetics. + +Anyway I wasn't intending and I'm not going to just detail the whole of my intuition so there's a lot I've left out. Need to spend a lot of time on this and it has become something of a fun diversion. Like most diversions it'll probably lead to my realizing I'm an idiot later but such is life. +--- 15384208 +>>15384193 + +Old but still reliable!! Nvm, don't need to talk about the basics then with you. + +>but rather the risk calculations or polygenic score from heritability estimates + +Indeed, but you still would need to find a better way than the 20 year old methods then to not end up in just the same replication crisis dead end. Damn statistics do tend to swallow up these divergent mechanisms, often flipping to either one side or the other. Ok, don't think I need to tell you that either, more talking to the 99.99% here. + +>Anyway I wasn't intending and I'm not going to just detail the whole of my intuition so there's a lot I've left out. + +Cryptic symbolism in your dreams if you allow me that joke. ;) +My gut feeling is telling me what you might wanna do there isn't so foolish after all. Even if it fails to achieve results, will in hindsight think yourself a fool but also be wiser. +--- 15384220 +>>15384208 +Yeah. Sure. Say, when does one get "wise enough" to stop feeling horrible about the fact nobody ever understands what you're talking about? That'd be nice. +--- 15384222 +>>15384208 +lol +--- 15384227 +>>15384220 + +Dunno lol. ;) diff --git a/sci/15379597.txt b/sci/15379597.txt index 4b788b6345323bd53b282f26ac4d1e322b059cf1..f8cd02d20ed751569f46d83f365cf65475eb1a5b 100644 --- a/sci/15379597.txt +++ b/sci/15379597.txt @@ -64,3 +64,211 @@ I guess he's from the US. In the US the consensus is that only people with money >>15379713 >I used to fast a lot Like what kind of fasts how often? I have been doing 48h fasts once a month and like 24-36h fasts once a week, for a year. I hope it seems a bit too non-intense to cause similar issues. +--- 15381875 +>>15380410 +op here, you're good don't sweat it just don't forget to drink water, I used to fast for 1+ weeks, longest I went was 3 weeks, insane I actually pulled this off I wasn't even that overweight, and I did it on and off for years. I don't recommend fasting at all though it's very easy to get delusional once you do it often, I started off with one day fasts and then it progressed as I noticed I could do them longer, like 3 weeks without food just sounds like a recipe for organ damage, but I didn't think of it like this at the time I was surrounded by many other delusional people online. +--- 15381885 +>>15379597 (OP) +probably kidney stones. Put 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and 1 tablespoon of olive oil in a cup and mix it with some water and drink it twice a day. +--- 15381898 +>>15381875 +it isnt organ damage. fasting is very good for you. It is because people get most of the water they need from food. When you cut off the food you werent getting enough water for your kidneys to break down the minerals and salts they formed into little rocks. The pain you are experiencing is because those little rocks are getting into your tubes, getting stuck and clogging shit that shouldn't be clogged. + +You need to dissolve those rocks now using something acidic, hence the apple cider vinegar and the olive oil acts as a lubricant. You also need to stay well hydrated. + +Drinking coca cola also helps break down the rocks from the phosphoric acid in coke. Stay away from dairy +--- 15381914 +>>15381875 +look up the phoenix protocol btw. It is a 60+ year doctor who does a week long dry fast every year or so and will explain why it is good for you. The tldr is you have lots of unhealthy cells that could potentially become cancerous. They are only able to survive because of the sugar and nutrients you are provided to them. When you do a week long fast your body will kill all those cells off because it cant waste the energy required to keep them alive. It is kind of like human shedding for reptiles or molting for crabs and lobs and what not +--- 15381921 +here is his yt channel btw +https://www.youtube.com/@augustdunning +--- 15381928 +>>15381898 +I'll unironically try this out, I do drink a lot of milk, a liter per day, I also thought it was from excess calcium I tried cutting milk off for a small period of time and I didn't notice any difference, but I'll try what you're saying which is something acidic, lemons are ok right? I can drink high amounts water with lemon very easily. I'll also try some ACV + +However it's been 2 years, I feel like if it was reversible this easily it would have already fixed itself, but I'll still try this out thanks. +--- 15381938 +>>15381928 +it possibly could be little calcium rocks. Kidney stones can be any salt or mineral. Not every persons stones are made of the same thing. + +Yah lemons will work, I prefer the apple cidar vinegar because you can purchase in relatively large containers compared to citrus flavors. Drink a lot of cranberry juice too. + +>However it's been 2 years, I feel like if it was reversible this easily it would have already fixed itself +Nah, however long it took to build those rocks, it will take just as long to dissolve them as a general rule of thumb. +--- 15381961 +>>15381928 +also take hot showers as hot as you can stand them and just let it flow directly onto your mid to lower back, it will help reduce the pain +--- 15381971 +>>15379597 (OP) +What's your daily reduced iron intake?Had to switch to bottled water for this. +Inb4 drinking a lot of tap water which is rich in iron in the swamp area where I live. Hadnt enough guts to switch back to tap to test my hypothesis its related also BC tap tastes like shit and rust stains are everywhere. +--- 15381999 +>>15381971 +I don't drink tap water and I usually avoid iron fortified foods, I used to get majority of my calories from dairy I don't think this is the problem but thanks anyways +--- 15382301 +>>15379597 (OP) +you should definitely ignore some of the retards in this thread, the namefag in particular has said so much insanely stupid stuff so far +tell me anon: what is your diet like? +don't try to doctor your response to what you'd want it to be like, just be completely honest and as detailed as possible +--- 15382314 +>>15382301 +you wont say anything specific because you are a fucking moron so stfu +--- 15382324 +>>15382301 +he already said he got most of his calories from dairy you massive fucking retard. If you actually read the thread or actually knew what you are talking about you would know that. I can source everything I have said here whereas you are just a screeching moron +--- 15382330 +>>15382324 +>I can source everything I have said here whereas you are just a screeching moron +In fact I am sure he has been jewgling since my posts and confirming it all for himself. So go suck some tranny balls psued +--- 15382360 +>>15382301 +Stone formation has been directly associated with a lack of fluid intake and is by far one of the most common causes of kidney stone formation. Low fluid intake leads to reduced diuresis, resulting in concentrated urine. This may lead to supersaturation of minerals contributing to the formation of kidney stones. +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7731957/#:~:text=Stone%20formation%20has%20been%20directly,the%20formation%20of%20kidney%20stones + +What Are Kidney Stones? +A kidney stone is a hard mass that forms from crystals in the urine. They can be as tiny as a grain of sand or as big as a golf ball. Sometimes they stay in the kidney, but they often travel through the urinary tract. + +If a kidney stone is small enough, you may not even know you have one as it passes through the urinary system. + +A large kidney stone can cause significant pain. It can also block the flow of urine, causing harmful backups. + +The most common type of kidney stones are calcium oxalate stones. + +Calcium naturally binds to a substance called oxalate. Ideally, calcium binds with oxalate in the stomach and intestines before moving to the kidneys. Then, the substances leave the body without forming stones. + +However, if calcium and oxalate combine in the urine, they can form kidney stones, especially if there’s not enough liquid. + +Kidney stones are common. The National Kidney Foundation estimates that one in 10 people will have a kidney stone at some point in their lives. They affect more men than women. + +What are the Symptoms? +If you’ve had kidney stones before, you may recognize the signs. Typical symptoms of kidney stones are: + +Chills. +Constant need to urinate. +Fever. +Bloody urine. +Nausea. +Pain in your lower back or side (flank pain). +Vomiting. + +https://share.upmc.com/2022/04/how-to-treat-kidney-stones-at-home/ + +Now run your mouth some more dipshit. +--- 15382374 +>>15382360 +Oddly this website (pic rel) says to consume dairy OP but most, if not all, the other ones I checked out say not to and when I had kidney stones drinking milk or cream always made it worse. Since you were dehydrated from fasting and consuming large amounts of dairy I will say this points to your stones most likely being calcium so I would cut out dairy altogether but it is up to you. +--- 15382384 +>>15381999 +I mentioned your diet and constipation for a reason anon. >>15382301 is correct and appears on the same track. If your bloodwork and everything else is fine, odds are cyclical constipation is causing your issues. Look it up. Causes bladder pains and migrating pain. Your doctor should have asked the related questions and investigated that unless he fucked up OR you were not honest or cant recall detail enough. If you dont know what normal is you wont know if your diet is abnormal for example, and doctors sometimes have to go fishing to figure out ehat you think normal means. + +You need to make sure you arent driving yourself crazy over something as simple as not staying hydrated, with moderate salt and calcium and related. Talk to your doctor about your diet. I bet you it isnt good. If it is, then get an xray when the pain happens to rule out other causes of constipation. + +Beyond that you either have a super duper rare zebra condition, which you dont or you would have other complaints a lot worse, or anxiety related somaticism. Lots of people with anxiety or adhd have dietary ajd digestion issues due to bad diet and anxiety causing bad digestion. +--- 15382405 +>>15381885 +He can add salt, pepper, and a few other ingredients and that would just become salad dressing. +--- 15382448 +>>15382384 +He isnt constipated. + +>kidney stones are super duper rare! +stfu you fucking retard +--- 15382482 +btw the best way to know for sure is just go to your doctor and get x-rays. If you avhe stones they will show up in the x-ray, problem solved. The people on this board are so fucking stupid it is hardly fathomable how they even function on a daily basis, never listen to them about anything +--- 15382519 +>>15382482 +Because interstitial cystitis, caffeine consumption, deeper UTIs, and other things can all cause similar symptoms. He could even have prostatitis. The thing is, too many things are a possibility, his doctor fucking sucks and is lazy, and a lot of people immediately want to jump onto assumptions instead of asking questions. +You're right, he just needs to do a different doctor. X-ray would probably help, full thorough work-up with it optimal. +--- 15382523 +>>15382482 +>>15382448 +>calls me stupid +>Proceeds to parrot the same thing I said about an x-ray for the same reason +lol ok +--- 15382537 +>>15382519 +Well I would say the most common ailment is the best place to start. Institical cystitis is so fucking rare you may as well consider an alien probe as just as likely culprit. 99.999999999999% he has kidney stones +--- 15382563 +Op here, it's good guys no need to argue I wasn't expecting to find the exact answer here obviously I just wanted to hear some opinions, I can go see a doctor again and be more confident in what I say now. So thanks I appreciate everyone who posted any sort of advice, it could be simply kidney stones for all I know I'll get an x-ray and see if anything comes back I've clearly tried jack shit to fix the issue so far +--- 15382567 +>>15382563 +Stones, constipation, or otherwise, all amounts to the same thing about diet and hydration. So that's what you'd want to discount first. Hence that, and if in extreme pain again an x-ray would differentiate and narrow a lot of possibilities. +--- 15382570 +>>15382563 +Does your skin feel weird sometimes? Like you have a sunburn? Your ribs hurt? Check the toilet paper when you wipe for little traces of blood too +--- 15382574 +>>15382537 +Caffeine irritation isn't that rare though. I worked with a woman that had interstitial cystitis, so it's more immediately in my view as a possibility despite me not being the one to suggest it earlier on itt. We're coming in and posting globally, so rarity for something is skewed. Kidney stones are usually pretty common in people that drink a lot of soda, sometimes with beet juice (which is evil because it's delicious). He could be dehydrated, and you could be right, but it's just better that he find out for sure by having someone with actual diagnostic tools on hand. +--- 15382578 +>>15379597 (OP) +enlarged prostate +--- 15382623 +>>15382563 +btw I went to the doctor like 4 times before they properly diagnosed me with kidney stones. You would think being as common as they are they would have started there instead of testing me for VD's and shit. Everyone everywhere is incompetent but dont forget diversity is our strength! +--- 15382664 +>>15382623 +There was some 19 year old girl that had an over 100 pound cyst with something like 46L drained on the news recently. The speculation was that this had been an ongoing problem since puberty, but they just told her to exercise and lose weight. We have a serious problem with medical negligence, and when healthcare is as costly as it is, that's ridiculous. +--- 15382740 +>>15382664 +this sound suspiciously like anti-vaxx propaganda. What are you a nazi or something bigot? PUT ON THE MASK REEEEEEEEE (masks which do jack shit btw) +--- 15382778 +>>15381898 +>people get most of the water they need from food +Sorry, correction here: + +Your body typically gets about 20% of the water it needs from the foods you eat throughout the day. Foods that typically provide the highest water content are raw fruits and vegetables. Eating a diet heavy in produce is a good way to give the body vitamins, minerals and fiber while increasing your daily water intake. + +The reason I mentioned this is because you said you were fasting. So you aren't getting any of the water you need from food and you were consuming large amounts of calcium ALONG with the fact you were consuming the source of the calcium IN PLACE OF water as well. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to connect the dots +--- 15382819 +>>15382740 +I have news for you. +--- 15383149 +>>15382301 +>the namefag in particular has said so much insanely stupid stuff +Such as? +--- 15383163 +>>15383149 +He denied le heckin FDA approved soienc. +--- 15383201 +>>15382819 +you are arguing with a paid shill in the information war on a mongolian spearfishing board. +--- 15383203 +>>15383201 +--- 15383215 +>>15379597 (OP) +Frequent urination and side pain has a lot of causes, and you can rule out low GFR as a symptom. You need to go to your doctor again, downplay the kidney thing (don't imply you know medicine better, just your own body), and insist that you are in pain and want tests done (and not pain pills, which is probably what they thing a 20-something wants) +--- 15383233 +>>15383201 +I've been meaning to post it for a while anyways. A lot of people don't know that the FDA isn't testing pharmaceuticals themselves, and they think that the FDA has a lot more of an involved role. They don't. They're just a government agency middle man that slaps a seal of approval on whatever shit passes their barely there requirements. Bodhi's not too bad though, plus people have a filter option to block namefags. +--- 15383245 +>>15383233 +he is retard who thought you were arguing with someone who is in favor of the vax because his dumb ass didnt actually read any of the thread +--- 15383267 +OP has yet to post his diet... +--- 15383332 +>>15383267 +..... He said he was fasting, not drinking enough water and drinking shitloads of milk and getting most of his calories from dairy .... +--- 15383458 +>>15383332 +I've done 6 tablespoons of ACV today and I actually do feel like the pain has gotten a bit better already, this thread could archive tomorrow and even if it doesn't probably won't check it so just wanted to say thank you god I hope it keeps getting better, I had no clue kidney stones could last for years +--- 15383601 +>>15383458 +They will last until you get rid of them, which you cant do while until you change the conditions that created them to begin with. yw anon + +dont forget the hot showers for pain, they will also help pass them by relaxing expanding tubes +--- 15383619 +1. kidney stones +2. some kind of hernia, muscle pull, or prolapse + +last year i pulled some gut muscle after lifting a heavy thing. For a whole week, I could barely hold any piss before having to relieve myself. Fortunately, it healed to 75% after two weeks and then to 100% after two months, but perhaps you have done something more serious + +maybe an ultrasound could help diagnose this +--- 15383715 +>>15382664 +It may be painful or ridiculous for you to hear, but unlike with >>15382623, your anecdote actually shows the system is working as intended. +Losing weight is the solution that will be effective and treat the actual case for complaints in 95% of times. Your case was such an extreme freak edge case that any statement how the system "needs to be improved" is useless, and hand-wringing. Like banning outdoor gatherings to flatten the curve. +--- 15383719 +>>15383715 +When an individual goes to a doctor for examination and complains of pain, has strange weight gain, and is a child that is in the beginning stages of puberty, it's medical negligence to dismiss that altogether. The girl's mother previously had some flavor of reproductive organ cancer as well, making this all the more retarded. +So you can talk about hand wringing, and make the same played out fucking comments that reference back to Covid-era mental illness all you want. We pay for healthcare, and having someone do something beyond the bare minimum of giving someone a vague once-over should be expected. diff --git a/sci/15379696.txt b/sci/15379696.txt index 3e1ac128d0200fe10c37297216cabca039609add..f2bd566892e5e63425d1a0fae145663cb57ae178 100644 --- a/sci/15379696.txt +++ b/sci/15379696.txt @@ -28,3 +28,43 @@ based --- 15380461 >>15379696 (OP) surface integral of a field dotted with the surface normal +--- 15381953 +>>15379696 (OP) +Its abstract intermediary idea for math to work. Don't think too much into it. +Protip: you rather brush up ur vector algebra skills. +--- 15381966 +>>15381953 +If magnetic flux is just a mathematical object then what makes magnetic objects attract? The answer can't be magnetic flux since magnetic flux is a mathematical object and mathematical objects don't have physical properties. +--- 15381977 +>>15379696 (OP) +vorticity apparently +--- 15381985 +>>15379696 (OP) +It's how much of magnetic field goes through a surface +--- 15381998 +>>15381977 +Maxwell's equations and theories of ideal relativistic fluids can be put in a similar form in which magnetic flux plays the same role as vorticity, but it is not quite the same. +--- 15383072 +>>15379696 (OP) +Fluctuations and perturbations of the ether. Mother Nature is not a crack whore she is simple. +--- 15383636 +>>15379701 +>right hand rule baby +so my hand is a flux, wtf +im thinking, is my dick a flux as well? +--- 15383637 +>>15383636 +>is my dick a flux as well? +No, but my semen hitting your mother's womb is. +--- 15383639 +it's how much magnet power is going through some measure of surface area +--- 15383901 +>>15381966 +Magnetic phenoena are actually a relativistic effects on moving charged particles, kiddo. +Also what makes magnetic objects to attract is principle of least action. You should consult your Landau Lifshits on mathematical phys instead of trolling in basket weaving Korean forum. +--- 15384357 +>>15383901 +Shadows, including magnetic ones, can travel faster than the speed of light. +--- 15384361 +>>15383901 +Define relativistic effects, what are they made out of diff --git a/sci/15379721.txt b/sci/15379721.txt index c954907b1c2e39901e2e58cfe01d775f35e4cb31..166b847c2514cdc4972224ff66d1568a324a9033 100644 --- a/sci/15379721.txt +++ b/sci/15379721.txt @@ -27,3 +27,71 @@ Wtf Mr Evolution? --- 15380844 >>15379721 (OP) Have you considered the possibility that you're colorblind? +--- 15381003 +>>15379721 (OP) + +I believe green looking eyes is the rarest eye color. There is no actually color in blue or green eyes the lack of brown color causes the structure in the eye to reflect different wavelengths of light. So the people with the least brown have blue looking eyes , if you have some small amount of brown they look green or hazel. +--- 15381083 +Green enough? +Afaik green is a mix of brown and blue +--- 15381397 +Yes OP. Green eyes are the rarest among the 3 normal eye colors. But genetic defects can have even rarer colors. +About 1/50 to 1/100 people have green eyes. +Sometimes people have eyes which are "partially green" and other times their eyes are fully green. It's usually a dark shade of green, not bright. +--- 15381400 +>>15381083 +thats grayblue +--- 15381408 +>>15381400 +coffee-black and egg-white +--- 15381436 +>>15381397 +Irish and red-haired ppl in general seem to have green eyes all the time +--- 15381455 +>>15381083 +Why do whites always have such spare thin eyebrows , like lol. Nice eye color though +--- 15381459 +>>15381436 +80-90% redheads I've seen had dark brown eyes. Some had blue. I think I've never seen a green eyed redhead irl yet, only in pictures +--- 15381483 +>>15381455 +Thin? it's rather thick, about the same width as the eye, just blondish +--- 15381501 +>>15380842 +>meanwhile i have only finished adding green luminescence to fur + +I'M FUCKING WORKING ON IT ALRIGHT?! + +https://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/sep/11/genetically-modified-glowing-cats +--- 15381543 +>>15379721 (OP) +Why would green eyes be cool? I have green eyes and a girl I liked when I was a kid told me jokingly: + +Grüne Augen, Froschnatur, +Doch von Liebe keine Spur + +(Green eyes - frog, unable to love) +--- 15382408 +yes. looks like this. seethe more +--- 15382538 +>>15381083 +That's not green. My eyes are a similar shade, but that center bit has a more yellow hue. +Green eyes are more natural shades of green usually. Think of mosses, duller grasses. +--- 15382547 +>>15381455 +They're not. They're bushy, but they have a lot of blonde. Anon probably has dark blonde hair. Or maybe not. Men turn into calico cats when it comes to facial and body hair sometimes. Auburn beards, but blonde eyebrows and light brown hair, brown body hair. Various shades of red or brown. +--- 15382684 +>>15381408 +I am fine. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0s7ycdUcHk [Embed] +--- 15382720 +>>15381083 +My eyes are like that +Mf gf calls them green, my family usually calls them blue, and I would generally refer to them as blue +A lot of people seem to comment that I have nice eyes +--- 15382732 +>>15382408 +If it looked like that you'd post it instead of someone who looks better than you, lol. +--- 15383847 +>>15379721 (OP) +Why are the eyes shimmering color for me. It's blue in left eye then green in right eye it's blue in right eye then green in left eye. it's not even a gif. diff --git a/sci/15379790.txt b/sci/15379790.txt index 51211037fe7276f3130c231e995199f6a6fa0d61..68b667c36bea6e9fd72349768990238496ba20f6 100644 --- a/sci/15379790.txt +++ b/sci/15379790.txt @@ -88,3 +88,88 @@ I haven't done math since 7-8 years ago when I was in grade 10. Getting started >precalculus Why bother? https://lyryx.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Guichard-Calculus-EarlyTranscendentals-2017A.pdf +--- 15380937 +>>15380711 +>Why bother? +Because you need it? +--- 15380945 +>>15378362 → +>>15378374 → +Well I guess in particular I mean how can I get a rough idea of where a group of number that large fall on the number line. How does mathematica determine which number is greater? How does the computer even represent these values and do operations on them? Surely theres some analytic method? I cant tell at a glance which of the three numbers you listed there are the largest or approximate the difference between say [math] 5^{5}^{5} and 2^{2000} [/math]. I know we can determine the number of digits in n by taking the base 10 log of n, but my calculator said the value is too large and got an overflow error. + +I know this is a dumb question, but it's one of those things I never learned, and I was wondering if there were explicit instructions or at least heuristics for this kind of thing. +--- 15381010 +>>15380945 +You can take logs +--- 15381015 +>>15380945 +>>15381010 +Oh you mentioned that; you can easily see that [math]\log_2(2^2000)=2000[/math] and [math]\log_2(5^{5^5})=3125\log_2(5) > 2000[/math], for example. Then since logs are monotone 2^2000 < 5^5^5. +--- 15381062 +June Huh? Not July What? Or August Eh? It's already September, huh? What? It's April? Come again? Time flies, huh? +--- 15381078 +>>15379919 +Ok then stop doing it +--- 15381226 +>>15381015 +Thank you +--- 15381428 +>>15380178 +In general the answer is no. Classifying clones even on finite sets is a hard problem and what you're asking is probably equivalent to the halting problem. +--- 15381752 +>>15380146 +I was asleep. Missed it. +--- 15382201 +>>15381428 +Damn, universal algebra looks neat. Thanks for introducing me to it. +--- 15382552 +>>15380164 +>>15380415 +It's great. I read it maybe three years ago summer after my junior year. +It really helped get me into combinatorics. Super fascinating subject, both from a pure math perspective, but also because it has a lot of neat applications in computer science, optimization, biology, network science, and related fields. + +Actually, I'm getting ready to graduate with a masters degree, mainly focusing on combinatorics. Currently I'm taking a class on so-called "matroids" which are a combinatorial object closely connected to both graph theory and linear algebra. The guy in OP's pic >>15379790 (OP) +is named June Huh. He was just awarded the fields medal last year for his work on matroid theory. Combinatorics is in many ways a really fundamental and really basic field of math, but it's actually relatively new and very active. The subfield of combinatorics basically didn't exist until the 1930s. In general prospects for academics today honestly suck ass compared to prior generations, but combinatorics is probably one of the healthiest areas of mathematics at the moment. Only thing more trendy is probably statistics and probability (because of all the machine learning and data science fags taking over the world). +--- 15382611 +Which Analysis Problem books does /sci/ like? I have found this three volume set by Kaczor and Nowak, I am quite pleased, but there are many problems and some are not very enlightening. I am familiar with Pólya's book as well, but it's more geared to complex analysis. Please give me your recommendations, and as a self-learner, I am only interested in books which contain solutions, or have a solutions manual. +--- 15382715 +>>15382611 +I also found this set. Looks good from a first glance, but it's helpful to get feed back. I've actually studied analysis a long time ago, but want to work through problem books as a way to see what I need to refresh myself on. +--- 15382746 +Dumbass stupid ass retarded ass ChatGPT +--- 15382961 +>>15382715 +Leszek Gasinski & Nikolaos S. Papageorgiou have two books that are nice +--- 15383040 +>>15382961 +Thanks for the recommendation. This series seems to begin at a higher level of difficulty (in terms of material) than the others which begin with more elementary analysis. Also, what's with the Polish and creating problem books? This is the third in a row to have a Polish author. Also turned into a collage for Autism's sake (it's a scripted process anyways) +--- 15383433 +Is there a "standard" notation for the set [math]\{1, 2, 3, ..., n\}[/math]? Particularly for combinatorics/discrete mathematics. + +I've seen[math]I_n, [n], \mathbb{N}_n[/math] being used.. +--- 15383507 +>>15383433 +From your options I'd prefer [n], which I also see regularly. +If you got a set theory proper context, you can also use n itself (being {0,1,...,n-1}). If you got code environments, then range(n) will do also. +--- 15383519 +>>15383507 +We're talking mathematics not computer science you worthless code monkey +--- 15383568 +>>15383507 +Thanks. I've also seen and understand the set-theoretic definition of natural numbers, however it is highly impractical in any other area. + + I guess I'll just stick to the [n] notation, although I'd want some approval from my combinatorist /mg/ friends over here. +--- 15383767 +If all norms on a vector space [math]V[/math] are equivalent, does this mean the metric induced by the norm is Cauchy-complete in [math]V[/math]? Is this vector space necessarily of finite dimension and thus isomorphic to [math]\mathbb{R}^{\text{dim}(V)}[/math]?? +--- 15384147 +>>15382611 +>>15382715 +>>15383040 +>Almost exclusive Polish mathematicians +based +--- 15384301 +>>15383040 +I dunno, but it's also how some people I know learned probability (one by M Capinski & T Zastawniak and one by Z Brzeźniak & T Zastawniak). They are not too advanced but certainly nice. Plenty of Hungarians and Russians have problem books, so it might just be a slavic thing. +--- 15384346 +>>15380140 +Interesting. How would you approach/find the answer to something like this, in the simplest cases? diff --git a/sci/15380029.txt b/sci/15380029.txt index 1fdb35f11eefd3b087ce5efdc070baebf5b9c72c..b5f774fdf47b2dbe6f29356ef41492586438ed31 100644 --- a/sci/15380029.txt +++ b/sci/15380029.txt @@ -12,10 +12,19 @@ fpbp you could start by going to astronomy events in different universities. for example, in my uni there are multiple lectures open to the general public, that deal with space (what are black holes, how do galaxies form etc) and usually right after that there are astronomy events, after the lecture (given good weather) everyone go outside and the lecturers team sets up telescopes and anybody can watch. how can you find these lectures? follow unis in your area on Facebook. ---- 15380291 ->>15380029 (OP) -you jack off to child pornography --- 15380296 >>15380029 (OP) Lots of poorfag hobbyists have made significant discoveries of asteroids and comets. It takes patience, good records, and a lot of time. +--- 15381933 +>>15380111 +This +If you want to do some research on your own install Skymap or something similar on your phone and point it to whatever looks interesting to you. +Remember there is no such thing as cheap telescope. As amateur you are unironically better off buying good pair of binoculars +--- 15381937 +>tfw I've read the whole VN +--- 15382476 +>>15381937 +any good? +--- 15382481 +Duh wikipedia? diff --git a/sci/15380182.txt b/sci/15380182.txt index 2af3737b3f9aab5ecbc2c6fee514ea24c7137ace..b53d4062d822f74f9d9fb4cc5be323a952064ace 100644 --- a/sci/15380182.txt +++ b/sci/15380182.txt @@ -3,3 +3,9 @@ https://www.aeinstein.org If you didn't know any better, you'd probably presume that "The Albert Einstein institution" would have something to do with physics, however that is not the case. The Albert Einstein institution is a purely political operation, don't let them fool you. +--- 15382094 +he was just a political activist posing as a scientist. the media pushed his talmudic pilpul on the rest of the western world as a means of promoting jews and atheism in general +he even admits it himself +--- 15383722 +>jewish organization is dishonest +shocking & unexpected diff --git a/sci/15380258.txt b/sci/15380258.txt index d4f6f6a0fe6b463dc134d998dbc94e1423a25a09..a0788787f799129cda3da2b415eab19b1e1c85ca 100644 --- a/sci/15380258.txt +++ b/sci/15380258.txt @@ -15,3 +15,15 @@ fr even F9 has better launch pads when launching, what the actual fuck were they >>15380258 (OP) >surely this sets any launch back like 2-4 years at least to repair/upgrade launch pad and get in the FAA good books again No, solution is easy +--- 15381249 +>>15380258 (OP) +>2-4 years at least +two or three months +--- 15383339 +>>15380258 (OP) +ships blow up all the time +FAA nerds all probably love sucking musky cock anyway +--- 15383340 +>>>/sfg/ +--- 15383534 +Is this the famous money pit? diff --git a/sci/15380304.txt b/sci/15380304.txt index 810f7b0ebe849f5d6ba000e5f73e7bc9767ab6fd..a4d8e2be748cfc5aa064bb312438d2c73a5582bf 100644 --- a/sci/15380304.txt +++ b/sci/15380304.txt @@ -1,3 +1,15 @@ ----- --- 15380304 Can the /sci/ons of /sci/ence tetrate? +--- 15381037 +The sequence diverges. +--- 15381120 +>>15380304 (OP) +[eqn]a_n = \sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^n} = 2^{2^{\frac{n}{2} - 1}} [/eqn] +It obviously diverges for [math]n \to \infty[/math]. +--- 15381256 +not tetration +tetration requires evaluating in the other order, i.e. in this case [math]a_{i+1}=\sqrt{2}^{a_i}[/math], so you move down the chain instead of up +--- 15382438 +>>15381120 +^ this is what I got diff --git a/sci/15380504.txt b/sci/15380504.txt index 3c451a5f902ae1d45d0b55506c714f755882e77b..fab5866a5767689d974818f3220fce8c8e33ea92 100644 --- a/sci/15380504.txt +++ b/sci/15380504.txt @@ -21,3 +21,13 @@ Humanity will never ever leave the LEO again. So who is closer? --- 15380634 >>>/sfg/ +--- 15382259 +>>15380504 (OP) + +>he thinks Starship will be man-rated +>ever +--- 15382317 +>>15382259 +Just like falcon 9, right? remember how many times that shit blew up? +--- 15383512 +Humanity has regressed so much in the past 60 years that we can barely launch a rocket into space. Landing on the moon is a pipe dream. diff --git a/sci/15380597.txt b/sci/15380597.txt index 520dc48944930eefb28e668efc10004780706519..5f154ef68613c2cf77b0cdcf2db61a965d8846bd 100644 --- a/sci/15380597.txt +++ b/sci/15380597.txt @@ -23,3 +23,48 @@ How come scientists can't be funny? >Richard Feynman is funny >Therefore Richard Feynman is not a scientist QED +--- 15380948 +>>15380943 +>>>/sci/ +>science and mathematics +--- 15380963 +>>15380948 +it's merely a comical observation of the tendencies of a subset of our species. it's humorous and scientific. no need to be so sensitive. +--- 15380980 +>>15380963 +But this is a /sci/ humor thread? If you to make a 007 joke why not go with something more relevant like a covalent bond joke instead of a low grade pol or b post? +--- 15380988 +>>15380980 +I apologize, please edit this webm so the text says "when we see someone post a 007 joke on a sci humor thread" and use it to reply to the off topic meme. Please accept my most humble apology and do NOT ban me. +--- 15380993 +>>15380597 (OP) +more like reddit humor thread +--- 15381073 +>>15380927 +Science isn't funny +--- 15382767 +>>15380626 +Maybe they used a Chromebook as the measure. +--- 15383727 +>>15380597 (OP) +a mosquito once cried out in pain +"a chemist has poisoned my brain!" +the cause of his sorrow +was paradichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane +--- 15383729 +>>15383727 +Obese +--- 15383736 +>>15381073 +theres plenty funny about science. +humor is a science, you just need to focus on the language more closely +looks funny +smells funny +act funny +none of these are any good, but they are common descriptions of scientists +--- 15383770 +>>15381016 +This can't be real +--- 15383776 +>>15383727 +based and silentspringpilled diff --git a/sci/15380603.txt b/sci/15380603.txt index 417605cca247122e7d0a89bec967d8d1feaf94ac..3780610930aea100226f1f28c5606ab4ef679553 100644 --- a/sci/15380603.txt +++ b/sci/15380603.txt @@ -16,3 +16,34 @@ He sounds based and you sound like a shady prick --- 15380678 >>15380603 (OP) offer a slutty 17 year old to fuck him and then have her tell the cops. sex with a 17 year old is statutory rape even if it's consensual and even if she lied about her age. offer her $10k or something +--- 15380989 +>>15380655 +this - you're not the good guy if you're secretly plotting to sabotage a rival +--- 15380999 +>>15380678 +Where the hell are you that you can't fuck 16 year old sluts? +--- 15383352 +>>15380989 +Moralfag +--- 15383816 +>>15380603 (OP) +sexually seduce him with your juicy bussy and secretly film it then post the video on the school's website. +--- 15383817 +>>15380603 (OP) +you should kill him +--- 15383841 +best way to achieve victory and crush him both mentally and spiritually is to be actually better than he is. + +You have to prove that you truly are his superior. +--- 15383842 +Its nice to see that theres someone other than dumbfuck newfag students posting on this board. +4chan is a 20 year old website, nobody under 40 years old should be welcome here. The children should stay on TikTok with their peers instead of trying to force their way into 4chan, where they are not welcome. +--- 15384328 +>>15380999 +somebody over 20 having sex with an under 18 is a felony everywhere in the united states (unless you're married in the states that still allow that). +--- 15384378 +>>15380603 (OP) +Accuse him of plagiarism. +--- 15384387 +>>15380603 (OP) +Print and glue posters on the street warning the public about a notorious pedophile (your rival) diff --git a/sci/15380639.txt b/sci/15380639.txt index 6b600f4b7ec119f714abc3fa1eaf64c243c2529f..4b115d8590048742b66192ca6d0c264e48043767 100644 --- a/sci/15380639.txt +++ b/sci/15380639.txt @@ -56,3 +56,132 @@ The earth is flat with a dome. Space is a complete meme. The board is full of re --- 15380897 >>15380654 why do you care so much about OP's opinions? are you seriously this bored with your life? +--- 15380939 +>>15380639 (OP) +TOTAL REDDITNIGGER DEATH + +DEATH TO REDDIT +--- 15380962 +>>15380639 (OP) +I don't think I could ever put into words my disdain for these people. Because they need to make everything about politics they force us too as well otherwise they'll happily destroy anything good in this world so long as the media praises them for it. +Frankly I used to think derangement syndrome was more of a meme then a reality with these people but some of the takes I've seen around the test yesterday have me baffled beyond belief. Their desire to see "bad man" fail seems to override every other function of their brain and I've never seen anything like this. Except maybe out of a bad sci-fi novel. God help us if they every fully get their way. +--- 15380969 +>>15380639 (OP) +go back and stay there +--- 15380997 +>>15380639 (OP) +6 years since Trump and you are still pretending we merely have slight political differences. Just a disagreement over tax rates, is that right? +Conservatives pride themselves in being offensive and politically incorrect. Well this is the consequence of being political incorrect. +--- 15380998 +>>15380962 +Basically the golems know that something is wrong but they don't know what exactly. Last thing the NPCs want is to shatter their already fragile reality with the flat earth truth, so they've been avoiding it all cost for years now, but deep inside they know something is up. Their only hope is getting vaxxed and hooking themselves up to the Borg whenever that goes live, then the propaganda will work 100% and they will not question the programming anymore, there will be no more doubts in their collective minds and everything will make sense. +--- 15381044 +>>15380997 +Plebbitors acting retarded over a launch system test is Trump's fault? +--- 15381082 +>>15381044 +The right shits on others 24/7 yet still have the audacity to expect those same people to cheer them on. +--- 15381103 +>>15381082 +Because the right has sanity. Atleast more sanity than the left. I mean sure, we take in 3 million unvetted illegals every year but atleast we didn't elect mean tweet guy? +--- 15381108 +>>15381082 +>Its the rights fault that I cant enjoy rocket +The communist/WEF propaganda brain rot is real +--- 15381194 +>>15381108 +What are you talking about? +Clearly everyone found enjoyment in watching this rocket launch +--- 15381198 +>>15381194 +Is that what your WEF propaganda brain is trying to rationalize as now? +--- 15381215 +>>15381198 +Everyone is happy. Gleeful in fact. +--- 15381247 +>>15381198 +>t.schizo +take your meds +--- 15381261 +>>15381082 +This is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not sure if it's gaslighting even though you know full well know one would believe what you are saying anyway or if you've somehow forced yourself to to ignore reality. But the "left" is the side that has been on the offensive attacking everyone and everything since at least Bush. Yours is the side that calls everything racist, sexist, problematic, and can't leave anyone alone. It's so bad that even people like me who are as far from the "right" as possible tend to be attacked by your weirdly hostile side. You people attack others so much then cry out the second they tell you to stop by claiming you are being "shit on" when you're the only side who wants to take up the shit flinging to begin with. +I do genuinely have to ask that if you're not a troll how do you not see you're the ones causing all this conflict? +--- 15381366 +>>15380639 (OP) +I don't get those fags. If you are not excited about this you don't care about space exploration at all. +Are they commies that don't like the fact that it's a private company or do they simply hate elon musk? +--- 15381446 +>>15381261 +NTA, but I was slight left leaning in the past but I can answer few. 1) disinterest from leftist media to cover wrong doing of their own 2) disinterest in hearing from my "enemy" about my sides 3) enemy is always bad regardless of what they do because they're evil 4) I can do no wrong because if I did do wrong, I would know but since others dont tell me im wrong, then I must be right 100% of the time and can do no wrong + +In other words, information bubble + tribalism blindness. + +>>15381366 +Are they commies that don't like the fact that it's a private company or do they simply hate elon musk? They're commies but they're more motivated by tribalism right now. +--- 15381457 +>>15381446 +Also on top of that, the information bubble is filtered through the ideology of the elites who wish to control the bottom in a paternalistic way. Almost like the Chinese state paternalism, which itself is top down marxism. WEF ideology is promoting this view, democrats are promoting this view, etc. +--- 15381458 +>>15380639 (OP) +Because we understood that spacex was just a clown company serving a clown. We understood that our only hope is NASA, composed of real scientists, passionate, intelligent, open and with human values. + +Don't forget to clean your mouth +--- 15381500 +>>15381446 +>but I was slight left leaning in the past +Also I'd figure someone who is more politically active in the left is blinded even more so by information bubble/tribalism. + +>information bubble +To clarify, I meant all the major and minor information you intake to make your political decisions. Whether thats youtube channel you watch to "inform" you of politics, twitter accounts you follow, facebook groups you are part of, reddit subforums that you're part of, specific forums you're part of, specific news articles sites you read from, etc. They're all part of your information bubble. + +To break out of the spell, you have to stop watching those entirely. I broke out of the spell by focusing only on issues that really matter fundamentally. Personally the question "how to truly do good" and "how to use body language/speech/actions to compel/force someone to behave a certain way" was a really mind-opening question for me. Political dogmas from both sides are poison. +--- 15381664 +>>15381261 +>hello fellow SJWs, I used to agree women have rights but now I think the left has gone too far +Why do right wingers concern troll by pretending to be left wingers? It's so bizarre. I have never seen someone on the left do this cause they are always fully transparent. +--- 15381691 +>>15381082 +You think tribal score keeping is how the laws of physics run the universe? If you can prove your tribe has three more virtue points than the other tribe, anti gravity will magically appear because science runs on tribal score? Everything you've posted has been about your view of science being correct because of tribal score. Do you know the physical world doesn't run on internet karma points? +--- 15381790 +>>15381691 +No one has made any such claim but i think i understand what you're trying to get at. + +You can trivialize it all you want but people go to war with eachother over differences in values. +You're also working under a misunderstanding, space exploration is supposed to serve us, we do it because it makes us happy, it's not a fucking imperative and if it turns out that space exploration is not to our benefit then it's totally reasonable to drop it like a hot potato. +--- 15381826 +>>15380639 (OP) +Well, I found living on Mars a wet dream for children and man-childs who weren't being real with themselves and ignoring the limitations of living there, like the different gravity, or the fact you need to wear a suit all the time to go outside, the same landscape grows boring, the novelty wears off etc. Yes, basically short sighted children. + + +>because how dare musk not bend over to their extreme liberal views. +And also, yeah, Reddit lusts for power over their little gay fairy views no matter what the context is. Fuck those faggots. +--- 15381834 +>>15381664 +Never said I was a leftist I just said I wasn't on the right so try again there. Once again though I'm not sure if you're a troll or not. You are just throwing out a bunch of buzz words that have nothing to do with what I said with a vague sudo-insult at the end. If you're a troll you got me to respond but only because I'm genuinely curious what would cause someone who isn't trolling to be so detached from reality they can't even process the words they read correctly. Do you see red? Is it like a static? Are you trying to find hidden messages in what everyone says like a schizo? Inquiring minds want to know. +--- 15381847 +>>15381664 +>I have never seen someone on the left do this cause they are always fully transparent. +lol +lmao, even +--- 15381899 +>>15381664 +>I have never seen someone on the left do this +This is information bubble you live in. +--- 15381954 +>>15380641 +>random faggot complains about /pol/ in a reddit thread +--- 15382477 +>>15380639 (OP) + +Hummanity will never posses the discipline to be a multi-planet species. + +Musk will bankrupt SpaceX pouring all its funds into Starship development and it will never work as intended. + +The Artemis program will be cancelled due to cost overruns. +--- 15382550 +>>15380864 +Cool. Why don't you and all the other flat earthers go up in a rocket to explore the dome? Or, are rockets not real either? +--- 15382596 +>>15382550 +>replying to it +you do not belong on this site, and should go the fuck home diff --git a/sci/15380650.txt b/sci/15380650.txt index 06b8871adf7a3ddbe6cc2ea402a28c7a48657a1c..be8b56428e371f00dc485a91a8fa353ee3ce91eb 100644 --- a/sci/15380650.txt +++ b/sci/15380650.txt @@ -26,3 +26,72 @@ Except that even the most optimistic tritium breeding ratios in simulations will In practice, for both MCF or ICF, most of the fuel wouldn't be used,so unless all of the unspent tritium in the reactor could be recovered, it wouldn't be possible to have a self sustaining tritium supply. Since it's chemically identical to hydrogen, a large portion of the tritium will be adsorbed into the first wall components where it's basically impossible to recover. This was a major problem during the decommissioning of TFTR after it's D-T experiments since the chamber still had ~7 kCi of tritium in the vacuum vessel at the time that they couldn't remove +--- 15383326 +2.5 neutrons per fission +--- 15383535 +>>15380769 +schizo, or just retarded? +--- 15383537 +we should just get to the point and take fission power seriously already +--- 15383561 +>>15383537 +it was taken seriously until about 1970, at that point it was decided that no significant civilian uses of it would be permitted and that the middle and lower classes should be soaked on energy bills and everything else as much as possible until they were bled dry. +in 1971 the minimum wage was $1.60 and the price of gold was $40.80. so about 1.6oz of gold was a week's wage at minimum. about $3200 in today's money or about $170,000 annually +--- 15383572 +>>15383561 +really gets the old turbine spinning doesn't it? +--- 15383585 +>>15380665 +Why are you using the present tense? No such reactor exists. +--- 15383734 +>>15383535 +The calculations never account for the free proton that is fused with the element. It goes all the way, until you start getting helium from the alpha radiation. +--- 15383744 +>>15383742 +>I suppose even cold fusion could work wgen they used tapwater, and there was enough lead in it to make it work, but when they tried again it didn't work. +What started your obsession with lead? +--- 15383746 +>>15383744 +Lead is the last stable element. You start getting alpha particles of you add more protons to it. +--- 15383750 +>>15383744 +>>15383744 +That's how stars work as well. If they added lead to the plasma in the reactor, it would work. +--- 15383752 +>>15383585 +There's lots of them running experiments all over the world, just none of them put out more energy than is put in, so it's thus far been a bust. +--- 15383753 +>>15383746 +>>15383750 +When did your obsession with lead begin? In childhood, or as an adult? +--- 15383764 +>>15383753 +>It's crazy, they would never lie about physics of the most powerful weapon known to man. + +They even had to make up some bullshit about why there was so much lead in the Tsar bomba. +--- 15383768 +>>15383764 +So they line the caskets of radioactive people with lead to make them undergo fusion? +--- 15383771 +>>15380803 +I wanna see a death scene of a dude inside a fusion reactor when it turns on +--- 15383772 +>>15383561 +Clinton confirmed as best president in my lifetime. +--- 15383775 +>>15383768 +Stop writing nonsense. +--- 15383782 +>>15383752 +none of them are breeding their own tritium. +--- 15383787 +>>15383768 +Imagine you could make a bomb with water, lead, and a powerful jolt of electricity. +--- 15383807 +>>15383764 +What's hard to understand about a tamper? They used lead instead of DU because DU would increase the yield and fallout significantly. +--- 15384128 +>>15383752 +Except the only fusion experiments that have ever used tritium are TFTR in the mid 90s, NIF since 2008 and JET in 2021. None of them even attempted to breed tritium during these experiments, and for magnetic confinement there's a 25 year where literally no D-T fusion work happened at all. + +Only ~0.5 kg of tritium is produced per year, mostly from CANDU reactors which will mostly be decommissioned by the end of the decade. ITER is expected to burn most of the world's stockpile in the first few years, since the breeding blanket will not be installed until later. diff --git a/sci/15380656.txt b/sci/15380656.txt index 255f4a6bb1527ad3369328e3919f0dc4c3cced23..1c6d7400e74f4b8aacba18de9536fa546c68c859 100644 --- a/sci/15380656.txt +++ b/sci/15380656.txt @@ -45,3 +45,222 @@ The alternative is you shut everything down the first time you encounter a hurdl No, the alternative is you do as much right as possible the first time, just like the winners did in the past retard --- 15380920 It was designed by white heterosexual males in a meritocratic society. Of course it worked out of the box. +--- 15380982 +>>15380917 +>No, the alternative is you do as much right as possible the first time, just like the winners did in the past retard +>you do as much right as possible the first time +>the first time +--- 15380991 +>>15380982 +Yes something that literally never happened in a single Apollo launch afterwards. With muh ebin BFG this will be a literal daily occurrence except casualties x30 kek +--- 15381036 +>>15380656 (OP) +SLS had a failure with Challenger. Changing the name of the system because the crew and cargo have been moved from the side to the top doesn't change the fact that SLS is built upon the system that killed seven astronauts and destroyed an orbiter. And that happened in the production phase, not the test phase. +--- 15381079 +>>15381036 +>SLS had a failure with Challenger +The absolute state of coping musktard brainlets holy kek +--- 15381099 +>>15380991 +>Yes something that literally never happened in a single Apollo launch afterwards. +Pic related was just three years later. Space exploration is inherently risky. There will ALWAYS be a risk of something going wrong when you're dealing with complex technology in an inherently dangerous environment. In three hundred years if we haven't blown ourselves up and there are humans travelling between planets on a regular basis, there will STILL be shit going wrong. There will STILL be vehicles blowing up. There will STILL be people getting killed. You can take all the precautions in the world and shit will STILL go wrong, and if we're not willing to accept that that risk comes with the territory we should just pack up and go back to our caves. + +The first crewed mission of Falcon was its 98th. +The first crewed mission of Starship will not be its 2nd. +They'll test it, they'll work out as many of the bugs as they can, and at some point they'll make the leap to manned flights, and something MAY still go wrong, just like something MAY go wrong with Ares II, and if/when that happens I pray that people aren't stupid enough to say "well, I guess we'll just give up now" like they almost did after Apollo 1, like they almost did after Apollo 13, like they almost did after Challenger, and like they very nearly did after Columbia. +--- 15381106 +>>15381099 +--- 15381145 +>>15381099 +Cope and seethe +Imagine being so retarded and not understand that 10x the cost but 10x less the failure rate per launch is better than the other way around +--- 15381161 +>>15380656 (OP) +It's starship super heavy +--- 15381167 +>>15380991 +Why should oligarchs care about fried wagies when there are thousand more lining up to man the next firecracker? +--- 15381233 +>>15381145 +>10x the cost but 10x less the failure rate per launch is better than the other way around +It's a tradeoff. More cost and fewer attempts means less risk, but it also means you're not getting as much done. One launch every few years isn't going to build orbital infrastructure or colonize worlds - you need bulk. +--- 15381251 +>>15381233 +>you're not getting as much don +KEK how many times has starship reached the moon again? +SLS 1 - Starship 0 +--- 15381254 +>>15380890 +The flat earth truth is censored on /x/ as it destroys all the retarded narratives the glowniggers are running there. + +https://youtu.be/lKg-yn86zp4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/p-BFmn2S_jU [Embed] +https://youtu.be/BVJgObFHLY4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ru5fdfovkGI [Embed] +https://youtu.be/74KRZt5oJME [Embed] +https://youtu.be/tdwy-hxS-ts [Embed] +https://youtu.be/UAx5cl9VpTE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/JlFnJPFjcc0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/XetG30_YOeo [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ziVLbEoQ4Sc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/k0xClWgidZU [Embed] +https://youtu.be/UbYtkrTquXE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/1WHIr-IFqAo [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WcqKUhU0WDc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/wPrDg0CtWnk [Embed] +https://youtu.be/hoGTBdu7dMc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/mcLwr86emds [Embed] +https://youtu.be/U_bJYXS9p4A [Embed] +https://youtu.be/JOqc63Pp9OA [Embed] +https://odysee.com/@probablyalexandra:6/an-inconvenient-history:b +https://youtu.be/X-w8acuxF6w [Embed] +https://youtu.be/nGLJ5XJP3uE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/olbyJDou4qQ [Embed] +https://youtu.be/0Q18iSz6mus [Embed] +https://youtu.be/CLzj4PKJ2O4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/aFFM3YJAs4Q [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Stft_t48Hxc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/OPQLFlf89s8 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/QWa7lTxhrKI [Embed] +https://youtu.be/hyo8eKrinDM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/DdLLamniSyg [Embed] +https://youtu.be/udjk_FB80kM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/4nKIN_eHYxw [Embed] +https://youtu.be/fDBRhxryfZM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/-rmDj1MJyaY [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Kv9-JuLRpg0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/7Eeo-82Eac8 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/DHhgLnIvuAs [Embed] +https://youtu.be/CDG4oiCx_is [Embed] +https://youtu.be/wz68Q2Nz05A [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WffliCP2dU0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/uUuTAflN1rU [Embed] +https://youtu.be/lkmY_4PKMlY [Embed] +https://youtu.be/McdMMmclGVc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Cm7fBZq-8T4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/4SlRsbQ3nfM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Z36Ns7KUYHw [Embed] +https://youtu.be/XhIwZuPGfss [Embed] +https://youtu.be/CATklVkPEMw [Embed] +https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ofp8qiL3dTs [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WXaXnAvEpB8 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/gWnFMWqDRQE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/EvnrD49RmAY [Embed] +https://youtu.be/3wU8_jT61eE [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/c/DeanOdleEurope/videos +https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/the-rulers-and-their-secret-signs_Dr5f3CZu6CvGLgW.html +--- 15381268 +>>15380656 (OP) +>1 launch +And 1/5th the payload in a non reusable rocket. God you guys are retarded +--- 15381277 +>>15381268 +>And 1/5th the payload of my imaginary payload +--- 15381281 +>>15381268 +>>15381277 +Oh no no no +--- 15381284 +>>15381251 +Ask again in 2026. +If it's 3-0 I'll concede your point. +--- 15381300 +>>15381277 +No need to call things fake just because you are too retarded to understand something anon. +--- 15381981 +>>15381254 +>faggot schizo even washed out of /x/ with his gay YT watchlist +--- 15381989 +>>15381300 +>I just believe big numbers because they said so +--- 15382015 +>>15381989 +>I know way more about space flight then the company that launches over 50 rockets a year +There's nothing wrong with being retarded anon, but you don't need to sperg it all over the internet. Go back to lurking +--- 15382033 +>>15382015 +I literally do, I know more than >90% of them. I have a doctorate and work in my university's space center. +--- 15382036 +>>15381145 +You can't fit a fucking curve with one data point, anon. See how Artemis II and III go or if we even fucking HAVE an Artemis IV+ before you start boasting about your success rate. +--- 15382040 +>>15382033 +based Dunning–Kruger effect anon +--- 15382045 +Flat Earth Proofs: +>8 inch x miles^2 curvature rate is demonstrably nonexistent; we can see easily 20-50mi +>geometry dictates the curvizon must be a physical barrier blocking your view only 3 miles away +>water surface is flat and level to infinity +>the horizon is optical and always at eye-level +>perspective exists +>air-planes fly straight level lines, heading into the horizon, keeping the same altitude, and never account for any curvature +>gyroscopes work +>vacuum next to an air-pressure system lmao +>coriolis effect does not exist, interestingly no one who operates real world machinery considers any globe related science +>sonar and radar works +>we don't feel any movement; a constantly spinning, corkscrewing, chasing, multi-directional ball-earth would be deadly +>sextants work +>why do all governments throughout every war agree on 1) space and 2) the antarctic treaty? +>a compass works and always points north +>no one has ever physically discovered a curve, it was conceptualized and later faked with 1960s special effect moon-stories on television +>GPS - Ground Positioning System +>star constellations are always the same, turning around Polaris that is always at the very same spot +>land surveys work +>flight routes and emergency landings only make sense on flat earth +>we can literally see that the earth is flat + +Globe Earth Proofs: +>CGI exists +>you are a wellpoisoner if you don't believe in the globe +>NASA employees diving in a pool +>Elon saves us from globohomo, we escape earth and live on a death planet under a dome that protects us from the vacuum of space +>a fish-camera can bend the horizon in both directions (convex and concave earth exist simultaneously) +>sticks and shadows proved my table is a ball +>The Science™ experts told us the earth is a globe +>everyone believes it so it must be real +>I like Star Wars, pop-culture doesn't lie +>I fucking love science! +>why would they lie? +>I have to go to work tomorrow +>I saw it on TV +>It is real in my mind +>fuck off, retard +--- 15382119 +>>15382045 +>8 inch x miles^2 curvature rate is demonstrably nonexistent; we can see easily 20-50mi +>geometry dictates the curvizon must be a physical barrier blocking your view only 3 miles away +But you won't see the ground after 3 miles. Because of the curve. You can see mountains and tall buildings, sure. +>water surface is flat and level to infinity +>the horizon is optical and always at eye-level +>perspective exists +Are basketballs flat too anon? +>air-planes fly straight level lines, heading into the horizon, keeping the same altitude, and never account for any curvature +Except they do +>gyroscopes work +Works fine on a sphere earth. +>vacuum next to an air-pressure system lmao +Space isn't the kind of vacuum that sucks up dirt in your house my man. +>coriolis effect does not exist, +Except it does +>interestingly no one who operates real world machinery considers any globe related science +Bridge builders do. +>sonar and radar works +Anon are you just naming off random shit at this point? +>we don't feel any movement; a constantly spinning, corkscrewing, chasing, multi-directional ball-earth would be deadly +The same reason your coffee doesn't spill when traveling 70mph. +>sextants work +They way you idiots view the sky is all kinds of screwed up so the fact thy work is evidence of sphere earth. +>why do all governments throughout every war agree on 1) space and 2) the antarctic treaty? +Why do all governments, throughout every war agree that the world is round? You would think one would spill the secrets since its so obvious. +>a compass works and always points north +Yeah, just naming off anything your smooth brain can think of. +>GPS - Ground Positioning System +How the fuck do you even expect GPS to work when there's a god damn dome blocking us from space? +>star constellations are always the same, turning around Polaris that is always at the very same spot +Except for the entire southern hemisphere. +>land surveys work +Ah, an other profession that has to think about the curve. +--- 15382126 +>>15382119 +Forgot pic diff --git a/sci/15380839.txt b/sci/15380839.txt index 29b7a6cb22e1cd728b6d547bfb31e5c6227dbcd8..286ea9bbaebdc93f0609b4d2d620df1bff6016e6 100644 --- a/sci/15380839.txt +++ b/sci/15380839.txt @@ -2,3 +2,44 @@ --- 15380839 I was told in the early 00s that by 2020 we may run out of fossil feul and that it's a very scarce resource. If that IS the case why are we wasting so much of it on private jets, buses for american and european sportsball teams and for the 999 different racing leagues that exist. Surely it could be preserved and put to a better use if it is so rare and important to modern humanity ? +--- 15383628 +eesti retarded +--- 15383632 +>>15380839 (OP) +>I was told in the early 00s that by 2020 we may run out of fossil feul and that it's a very scarce resource. +You were also told that Saddam had nukes. Not everything you hear is true. +--- 15384368 +>plants die +>go into ground +>process +>oil + +>oil pumped up +>converted to energy +>byproduct Co2 +>co2 absorbed by plants +>see point one + +It's a cycle as natural as the seasons, but jews will tell you otherwise because fear breeds consumerism and infighting. Simple as. +--- 15384377 +>>15384368 +>>plants die +>>go into ground +>>process +>>oil +you forgot the "wait millions of years" part +--- 15384416 +>>15384377 +What makes you so sure about this claim? Inb4 link to "Schlangenstein's study confirms .." + +You know it's the same with diamonds? Takes millions of years, but they are very abundant in Africa and Sibir. The market just portrays and sells it as scarce just like petrol. +Furthermore, if it takes millions of years and this process has existed for millions of years then there is a natural cycle. Tomorrow is a million years since a million years ago. +--- 15384466 +>>15384377 +It doesnt take millions of years for trees to grow. You cut them down and turn them into liquid fuel, Fisher-Tropsch or any other process. +Though some grassses grow much faster. Photosynthesis low efficiency is more than compensated by the sheer size of the land plants can grow +--- 15384467 +>>15384416 +>You know it's the same with diamonds? Takes millions of years, but they are very abundant in Africa and Sibir. +Most are microscopic or dirty brown. Crystal clear large diamonds are scarce and they must be picked by hand, if you use giga rock crushers you risk breaking them. +Also, the price is still dropping because there's a lot of Indians and Africans picking and cutting these diamonds diff --git a/sci/15381013.txt b/sci/15381013.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..6d98e7ee4df8b5d6802de3fdf8ea7c1ba91e5088 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381013.txt @@ -0,0 +1,44 @@ +----- +--- 15381013 +Is there scientific proof that you can be born gay? I know there are some male dogs that fuck male dogs but how do I know they're actually actually gay and not just fucking around? +--- 15381032 +>>15381013 (OP) +The question is in this case can you be born with a mental illness or do they all develop from an early traumatic event. I don't know, I'm more inclined to believe it's trauma in 99% of the cases. +The unmolested who turn out to be fags usually have some other severe mental illness assosciated with it +--- 15381033 +Sexuality is a modern thing. See e.g. ancient romans +So no, it doesn't make sense to say that +--- 15381127 +>>15381033 +>Sexuality is a modern thing. +Evolution does not stop happening just because it is within the last 10,000 years. + +>But being gay is a negative trait. +It's mostly a neutral trait, especially in the past where the only option was to marry a woman and pretend to be heterosexual. + +>>15381032 +>can you be born with a mental illness or do they all develop from an early traumatic event? +Not all genetic traits are expressed. Many mental illnesses are genetic, but specifically to only activate from traumatic events. +The onus is on you to prove that mental illness is not genetic, when many mental illnesses provably are. + +- + +Retardation out of the way - there is no real proof. In fact, I believe there was a study that found farm animals to (with a relatively low frequency) turn gay without any interaction with female animals of their species. +All that I think can reasonably be confirmed is that it is not a passive trait - genetic or otherwise. IT clearly has some environmental aspect. In some animals, at least. +--- 15381398 +No one is really born gay or straight, at our most fundamental base we are bisexual/attracted to nothing. What makes us develop an attraction towards the opposite sex are things like hormones, pheromones (specially in animals), curiosity and the pleasure achieved in sex (male and female genitalia are made for one another) and a whole lot more, throw in the Freud shit too. + +That being said, homosexual behaviour is most likely caused by a combination of lust, an emotional connection to the same-sex individual, and personal choice. In the animal kingdom it is nearly lust most of the time. They know that having sex feels good whether it's a male or female. + +As for humans it's also the case of lust but the personal choice factor is the strongest, at least from what I've observed personally. I've seen many homosexual men express their disgust at women and talk how being gay leads to a more beneficial lifestyle that's more free of stress. Vice versa with homosexual women. + +The gay dogs are probably just fucking around. They'll forget each other the moment a female is introduced. +--- 15381440 +>>15381398 +>an emotional connection to the same-sex individual +oh my god really? +--- 15381445 +>>15381013 (OP) +Yes hormone levels in the womb determine sexuality in rats +--- 15382263 +as a leftist, I had a sudden realization today. someone asked for an "LGBT+ friendly" psychologist; but what if that "friendliness" only mean reaffirmation; why is reaffirmation automatically good? diff --git a/sci/15381041.txt b/sci/15381041.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e4392624dfca9920157020ad69e939e738236f7a --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381041.txt @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +----- +--- 15381041 +I'm convinced most illnesses are because of a nutritional deficiency. + +>Scurby (Vitamin C) +>Ostheoporosis (Calcium) +>Anaemia (Iron) +>Depression (Omega 3) +>Arthritis (Condhorintine with glucosamine) + +The other shit like allergies are mostly because of lack of B12 and acidic PH. + +I'm not saying controversial shit, is not even a tinfoil shit to mention scurvy can be treated with lemons and oranges, and ostheoporosis can be treated with celery with brocoli smoothie, because It has calcium. + +Not talking about cancer can be cured with fruits type of retardation. +But I honestly think cancer is because of a poor system because of years of eating goyslop and other pollutants. + +Pretty sure that cancer can be prevented by losing fat, stop eating so much red meat and stop eating goyslop and not drink shit like alcohol and beer, and not smoking, and lower consumption of diary, flour products and sugar rich products. + +It's not even controversial to claim that goyslop causes diseases. + +For some reason doctors love to prescribe prozac and other chemicals instead of telling people to lose fat, and stop eating goyslop and eat more veggies. +--- 15381054 +>>15381050 +sorry, but I am not an EE nerd. + +try to look up something on libgen. +--- 15381058 +>>15381054 +yeah sorry meant to post my own thread but im completely retarded. +--- 15381067 +>goyslop +Just say junk food you fucking autist +--- 15381094 +>>15381041 (OP) +>Condhorintine with glucosamine +Scam drug with no proven effect on health. As in, it literally does nothing. +>Arthritis +Completely uncurable, sadly +--- 15381100 +>>15381094 +>scam drug +It's literally a nutritional suplement idiot. + +If you want food, you can get that shit with literal sea food. + +>uncurable +Ironic, because I cured my mother from that shit with just giving her sea food rich in nutrients that her body neede to repair her knees. +--- 15381110 +>>15381041 (OP) +Retard, the neurological mechanisms for major depression are still largely unknown, your shitty omega 3 supplements are just placebos and scams. +--- 15381176 +>doctors love to prescribe prozac and other chemicals instead of telling people to lose fat +We tell them to exercise, get regular sleep and change their diet. People are simply bad at doing that. +--- 15381179 +>>15381110 +Efficacy of omega-3 PUFAs in depression: A meta-analysis +Yuhua Liao, Bo Xie, Huimin Zhang, Qian He, Lan Guo, Mehala Subramanieapillai, Beifang Fan, Ciyong Lu + +Omega-3 fatty acids for the treatment of depression: systematic review and meta-analysis +M H Bloch 1, J Hannestad + +Do you want to start spamming the literature, autist peer review shit? + +can't link the articles because 4chincel filters +--- 15381182 +>>15381176 +you need to fucking tell kids in school. +--- 15381184 +>>15381041 (OP) +>Osteoporosis (Calcium) +age and being a woman are the most inescapable predisposing factors +>anemia +there are different types and the deficiency may from a diff disease +>arthritis +osteoarthritis is secondary to cartilage degradation with use +--- 15381188 +>>15381184 +they can be sucesfully treated with nutrition. +--- 15381205 +>>15381179 +"meta-analysis demonstrated no significant benefit of omega-3 FA treatment compared with placebo... Current published trials suggest a small, non-significant benefit of omega-3 FAs for major depression. Nearly all of the treatment efficacy observed in the published literature may be attributable to publication bias." + +Kek, did you even read your own fucking sources. +--- 15381242 +>>15381205 +my mistake, I assumed omega 3 to have non placebo effects because of cardiovascular and brain improvements. + +Recent Clinical Trials Shed New Light on the Cardiovascular Benefits of Omega-3 Fatty Acids +Penny M. Kris-Etherton, PhD, RDN,a Chesney K. Richter, PhD,b Kate J. Bowen, PhD,a Ann C. Skulas-Ray, PhD,b Kristina Harris Jackson, PhD, RDN,c Kristina S. Petersen, PhD,a and William S. Harris, PhDc,d + +I assumed improvements in blood circulation and benefits like mood improvement and removal of brain fog, to obviously improve depression. + +Effects of Omega-3 Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids on Brain Functions: A Systematic Review +Monitoring Editor: Alexander Muacevic and John R Adler +Ibrahim M Dighriri,corresponding author1 Abdalaziz M Alsubaie,1 Fatimah M Hakami,2 Dalal M Hamithi,2 Maryam M Alshekh,2 Fatimah A Khobrani,2 Fatimah E Dalak,2 Alanoud A Hakami,3 Efham H Alsueaadi,4 Laila S Alsaawi,5 Saad F Alshammari,6 Abdullah S Alqahtani,7 Ibrahim A Alawi,8 Amal A Aljuaid,9 and Mohammed Q Tawhari10 + +It seems omega 3 to be essential to well functioning brain health. +So it seems logical it would improve the symptoms of depression. +--- 15381289 +>>15381242 +Be honest, you're passionfag aren't you? +--- 15381294 +>>15381041 (OP) +doctors dont give a shit, they arent there to actually cure you. + +>Pretty sure that cancer can be prevented by losing fat, stop eating so much red meat and stop eating goyslop and not drink shit like alcohol and beer, and not smoking, and lower consumption of diary, flour products and sugar rich products. +actual cause of cancer is man made viruses that modify your genome, they can give you cancer by firing a dry ice bullet with a viral payload if they really want to. +--- 15381301 +>>15381289 +no, I simply had to actually read medicine books to treat my mother diseases. +--- 15381317 +>>15381301 +You're way too fucking obvious with your cat pics and writing style. +--- 15381322 +>>15381317 +I used to post pepes like 6 months ago. +--- 15383307 +>>15381041 (OP) +i just eat chicken and apples most of the time +sometimes tuna diff --git a/sci/15381055.txt b/sci/15381055.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ce7ea25c6b265b2a0f403d7dfb9dbc7b5679fc23 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381055.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 15381055 +The infamous Twin Prime Conjecture +--- 15384249 +>>15381055 (OP) +Take my bump. diff --git a/sci/15381061.txt b/sci/15381061.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ff7d52a3da984346545b8b2a802dbadf5db30ad3 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381061.txt @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +----- +--- 15381061 +Recommend me a nice and based introduction book to electricity? +I tried "Practical Electronics for Inventors" but everything was going very fast on the first pages and it explained everything with algebraic equations. +Im pretty shit at math, or at least you could say i dont have any "fundamentals", so this kinda fucks me over. +Is there any book that would be a good read to get into electronics? i want to design circuits, seems fun. +--- 15381305 +>>15381061 (OP) +Getting Started in Electronics by Forrest Mims +Also, swallow your pride and maybe get some kits for kids +--- 15381327 +>>15381061 (OP) +--- 15381448 +>>15381061 (OP) +>Im pretty shit at math +Average poltard +--- 15381516 +>>15381305 +Good thing i dont have such a thing. +>>15381327 +Darn now i have to make a choice +>>15381448 +Why do you asume i visit that shit, meds please. +--- 15381768 +>>15381061 (OP) +This one makes it a goal to explain as much as it can with only the strictly necessary math. Get this with some circuit building kits and you're good to go +--- 15383343 +>>15381516 +>Why do you asume i visit that shit +Because you're retarded. Also worst thread on the board right now, congrats diff --git a/sci/15381178.txt b/sci/15381178.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..01306e1f43fea98099aad2855addf4ecb6129a4e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381178.txt @@ -0,0 +1,662 @@ +----- +--- 15381178 +There isn't any real scientific or medical evidence that transitioning is a bad treatment for gender dysphoric individuals. It greatly reduces suicidal thoughts and depression, and is the only working treatment currently. +--- 15381190 +There isn't any evidence that it's a good treatment either +--- 15381202 +>>15381190 +There is? + +>Survey found that 70% were more satisfied after transition, 74% had better mental health, 63% had decreased self harming, and 63% had less suicidal ideation + +https://www.gires.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/trans_mh_study.pdf + +>Rate of suicide attempts dropped dramatically from 29.3 percent to 5.1 percent after receiving medical and surgical treatment among Dutch patients treated from 1986-2001. + +https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1158136006000491?cc%3Dy +--- 15381243 +>>15381178 (OP) +It may not be a "bad" option of treatment for their own sake, but have there ever been attempts at other forms of treatment that don't involve surgery, such as behavioral therapy? If there were, I would like to know. +--- 15381250 +a spacex thread died for this +--- 15381259 +>>15381202 +They keep killing themselves so obviously it isn't working. Perhaps it causes momentary relief before they realize they still look like a man just a slightly more effeminate one. + +>>15381243 +That's called conversion therapy and it is considered pseudoscientific and amoral by the scientific community. It's even illegal in some places now. +--- 15381276 +>>15381259 +So they just stopped doing an extreme method of treatment to replace it with another extreme method of treatment, lol. Nobody has thought of anything else besides the two? +--- 15381282 +>>15381276 +i mean attempted to do anything else +--- 15381332 +>>15381276 +Do you really think behavior therapy is extreme when juxtaposed with physical surgery and hormone replacement? +--- 15381343 +>>15381178 (OP) +>It greatly reduces suicidal thoughts and depression, and is the only working treatment currently. + +study published in JAMA Pediatrics in 2020 analyzed data from 2,121 transgender and gender-diverse young people in the United States and Canada. The study found that, overall, 13.1% of participants who were assigned female at birth and 5.5% of participants who were assigned male at birth reported desisting from their gender identity. However, the study also found that factors such as early-onset gender dysphoria and more intense dysphoria were associated with a lower likelihood of desistance. + +One of the earliest and most cited studies on the topic was a follow-up study by Dr. Richard Green in the 1980s. The study followed 44 children who had been referred for gender identity problems and found that 12 of the 44 children (27%) had desisted from their gender dysphoria, while 10 of the 44 children (23%) had persisted into adolescence or adulthood. The remaining 22 children could not be located for follow-up. + +so no, gender transitioning isn't for everyone and we shouldn't be pushing gender transitioning on kids if they are gender dysphoric, they should wait until their 18 or have experienced gender dysphoria for more than 3 years to weed out penitential detransitioners. +--- 15381350 +>>15381259 +>muh "conversion therapy" boogieman +This is such a retarded take. Sexual orientation and gender identity are less than 50% heritable. This means the environment largely influences the outcome. We've seen this play out in real time, as 20% of Gen Z now identifies as non-normal without any change in genetics. If environmental conditions can cause someone to become gender dysphoric, they can also prevent someone from becoming gender dysphoric. + +"Conversion therapy" is just a moronic buzzword leftists throw out to shut down discussion. It works in that regard because it makes people think of the retarded christians who believed "praying the gay away" was a legitimate strategy. +--- 15381356 +>>15381350 +I wasn't criticizing it, I don't know anything about it. I was answering his question for why it isn't done, that being that the scientific community has decided it is useless and also evil. +--- 15381357 +>>15381259 +>That's called conversion therapy and it is considered pseudoscientific and amoral by the scientific community. It's even illegal in some places now. +I can see why things like electric shock therapy are immoral etc but I think he asked about behavioural therapies akin to CBT, same ones that are used to treat BPD or mild depression. Things like these would be preferable, especially for teenagers until they reach the age of 18. +--- 15381359 +I would have better mental health if the government paid for a cosmetic surgery for me. At what point is it critical enough to mental health to justify a public interest in funding these thing? people kill themselves because they're bald or short all the time (well, it's a significant part of the decision sometimes ) +I ask this legitimately +--- 15381360 +>>15381178 (OP) +Modifying your body is immoral. +--- 15381361 +>>15381259 +>They keep killing themselves so obviously it isn't working. + +You realize that its a treatment, not a cure? like transitioning treats gender dysphoria but it doesn't rid people with gender dysphoria of it completely, like I'm sure schizophrenics have a higher rate of suicide after antipyschotics, do those not work to? does the suicide rate have to be 0.0%??? + +>>15381243 +there was but they never worked. +--- 15381369 +>>15381361 +Anti-trans people +>transition is stupid because it's not 100% effective at stopping suicide +Also anti-trans people +>kill yourself tranny +--- 15381370 +Also another problem is that things such as autism or depression get misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria by evil American doctors. Imagine forcing SRS onto a person without gender dysphoria. Imagine risk of botched surgery on top of that. +--- 15381371 +>>15381357 +It's not immoral if the patient decides to do it, while it makes for electrifying headlines I'm sure conversion therapy has other methods. +--- 15381379 +>>15381361 +If your treatment is making your patients kill themselves it isn't working. I think a person is less likely to kill himself if he decides not to live looking like a clown. +>I'm sure schizophrenics have a higher rate of suicide after antipyschotics, do those not work to +Do they? If they do they certainly don't work. +--- 15381387 +one widely-cited study published in 2019 in the journal PLOS ONE found that gender-affirming surgery was not associated with lower odds of depression or anxiety compared to transgender individuals who did not undergo surgery. + +Another study published in the Journal of Homosexuality in 2020 found that gender-affirming hormone therapy was not associated with improved mental health outcomes for transgender individuals. + +People have commented on these studies being transphobic but they also showcase that gender affirm care does nothing for mental health for people that are gender dysphoric. +--- 15381388 +>>15381379 +>I've got zero evidence for this, but I'm still going to claim it as fact. +>>>/x/ +--- 15381406 +>>15381332 +I was talking about conversion therapy being extreme like anon said, not behavioral therapy. +--- 15381410 +>>15381369 +completely logically consistent. "this expensive scam surgery does not treat the real issue nor meaningfully improve outcomes so stop tricking impressionable teenagers into getting it and also please remove yourself from the planet so we can move past this insanity, you degenerate pervert coombrains" +--- 15381415 +>>15381388 +Whom are you quoting? +--- 15381421 +>>15381357 +That's what I was talking about, I should've been more specific +--- 15381429 +>>15381243 +no it's like climate change true research doesn't happen only agenda-driven bs +--- 15381430 +>>15381415 +The post linked newfag +--- 15381432 +>>15381178 (OP) +I don't see what that has to do with pronouns +--- 15381437 +>>15381430 +It doesn't say that in my post +--- 15381443 +>>15381202 +I've been saying this forever. Dysphoria is a form of OCD. If you feed the monster, it will grow even though it provides temporary relief. A person obsessed with their gender will always need "more" to feel more comfortable, which is why you see so many trans people get completely bogged with plastic surgery, and why you see such a meltdown over pronouns. Any study that has to do with mental well-being or anxiety in the context of transition needs to be viewed through this lens. If you have contamination OCD, of course washing your hands 100 times per day is going to give you less anxiety, but it's also going to increase the urge to wash your hands and requires increasing effort in washing that degrades quality of life. + +Not there's anything wrong with transition, I think that technology is useful and there's way better reasons to transition than bdd. Body dysmorphia should be treated with exposure response prevention (erp) and cognitive behavioral therapy (cbt). +--- 15381451 +>>15381437 +Not the brightest crayon in the bunch are you? +--- 15381462 +>>15381451 +It doesn't say that in my post +--- 15381467 +>>15381443 +I am a repressed tranny and I have (diagnosed by a professional) OCD +--- 15381479 +>>15381462 +Go back to plebbit kid, you need to be 18 or older to post here +--- 15381480 +>>15381467 +wdym "repressed tranny" +--- 15381530 +>>15381387 +>Journal of Homosexuality +>tfw this is a thing that exists +Thanks I'm going to use it in my shitpost from now on +--- 15381537 +>>15381479 +You're not fitting in +> CfpkkAFWcAEZ2Oj.jpg +--- 15381539 +>>15381360 +Just to build up on this, one day someone will come and say +>having a second child just to harvest some organ is moral because the treatment works better than anything else, therefore we should do it +When you have no moral compass, anything is possible and doable. +--- 15381559 +>>15381480 +I have gender dysphoria but have decided not to pursue any tranny related interests +--- 15381563 +>>15381480 +Repressing or "repping" in the context of the trans community means having bdd and a desire to transition, but you "repress" it and don't actually transition. + +I am also a "repper". I treat my bdd with things other than transition, which I think should be the standard of care instead. +--- 15381567 +>>15381178 (OP) +>It greatly reduces suicidal thoughts and depression, and is the only working treatment currently. +Then why do 41% of transgenders commit suicide? +Transgenderism increases the suicide rate dramatically because a lot of them simply regret it. +Because there's no solid scientific basis that gender dysphoria is a real thing, it's just a delusion, not different from believing you are a wolf in a human's body. I've read all the studies on transgender individuals and based on the results they appear to be gay men in denial so they claim they are women. Also, transgenders have an extreme correlation with autistic individuals, most trans people are autistic 99% of the time or more. +--- 15381568 +Only I can claim to be non-human. + +All others are PROVABLY lying. + +All the gender stuff is social pressures applied to body-schizophrenia, "they see with their eyes and are told its this or that, now they apply their feelings to what they see and what they are told, not what it was." + +Im beyond expert in this field, humans are retarded, especially ones with the PhD title. +--- 15381569 +>>15381202 +BS biased pseudoscience articles that can't be peer replicated +--- 15381582 +>>15381567 +>Then why do 41% of transgenders commit suicide? + +Proof? lmao you're so retarded + +>Transgenderism increases the suicide rate dramatically because a lot of them simply regret it. + +transitioning actually reduces the suicide rate quite alot. + +https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1158136006000491?cc%3Dy + +https://www.erudit.org/fr/revues/ss/2013-v59-n1-ss0746/1017478ar/ + +>>15381569 +Why do you think that though? any evidence? +--- 15381588 +>>15381250 +and nothing of value was lost +--- 15381589 +>>15381569 +>living the high of a honeymoon phase + +Yeah, ask them is 20 years. +--- 15381593 +>>15381563 +what other things? +--- 15381596 +>>15381589 +proof though? why would a honeymoon phase last 20 years, and people have been transitioning medically properly for like 40 years now. +--- 15381599 +>>15381582 +Sure! +>posts actually bullshit biased pseudoscience articles that can't be peer replicated +--- 15381606 +>>15381588 +>Doctor alkost creates the cure to cancef but it goes wrong late in testing. +>HAHAHA GOOD, I FUCKING HATE YOUUUU!!! +Youre lost the plot in life, your life is shit and you hide in anonymity. + +Post a picture of your surroundings, right now. +--- 15381607 +>>15381593 +As I mentioned a few posts above, erp and cbt. +--- 15381613 +A usual kindly ignore the namefag. +--- 15381619 +>>15381599 +anonnn, do you realize that you need to provide some proof or evidence for your claims? I could claim that the sky is pink, but I would need to prove it :3 + +>>15381360 +>giving a child life saving heart surgery (MODIFYING THEIR BODY) is immoral and shouldnt happen +--- 15381621 +>>15381613 +>Waaa, I wanna circle jerk pseudo-science. + +NECK YOURSELVES, SHITBAG HUMANS. +--- 15381623 +>>15381619 +>giving a child life saving heart surgery (MODIFYING THEIR BODY) is immoral and shouldnt happen +conditions apply, obviously. modifying your body to fit your desires is immoral, if you want to be pedantic about it. +--- 15381626 +>>15381623 +>conditions apply, obviously. modifying your body to fit your desires is immoral, if you want to be pedantic about it. + +But modifying your body in transition only happens to stop people from being suicidal and depressed. +--- 15381631 +>>15381626 +What if they feel suppressed about being old, should they get plastic surgery? +--- 15381635 +"I have a PhD in Gender Studies, lets suck each other off and call it science." + +How about you take a course of Genetics and Evolutionary Biology....you know, all the way back when SEX evolved into existence... +--- 15381642 +>>15381631 +Growing old doesnt cause the majority of old people to be extremely depressed and suicidal, untreated gender dysphoria does. (also if you are gonna say it does than please provide some evidence) +--- 15381645 +>>15381626 +there are other ways to deal with suicidal thoughts and depression, including going outside, exercising, eating better and becoming more devout. +Killing yourself is also immoral. +--- 15381650 +>>15381178 (OP) +Keep trying to mutilate children and you're going to find out why each time transgenderism has become a social movement throughout history, it ends with widescale slaughter. There's no reason to believe this time will be any different. And history also shows you won't see this coming, despite warnings, and will keep pushing things, especially on children, until it becomes the only option society has to stop the mutilation and abuse. +--- 15381652 +>>15381642 +That doesn't answer the question +--- 15381655 +>>15381645 +>there are other ways to deal with suicidal thoughts and depression, including going outside, exercising, eating better and becoming more devout. + +except those things are for people without these horrible mental disorders, please provide proof that those things work to properly alleviate suicidality and depression in gender dysphoric people. + +>>15381650 +t-two more weeks!!!! keep crying I guess? + +>>15381652 +if they really want to, sure, its their body. +--- 15381658 +"Dont worry, Im not pressured literally all of society to maintain my choices with no option to go back..." +>So, Jazz...are you happy? +;_; "Ya..." +>You heard it here first, anecdotal evidence of self reported feelings say more than biological logic ever could. + + +You dipshit pass around logic theory to not feel ignorant while passing laws that get people killed because you had a fantasy of outcomes predicated on present perspectives. +--- 15381662 +Niggas here saying transition doesnt work then what works +>t.depressed dysphoric person (not a tranny tho) +--- 15381667 +1. there is no such thing as 'transitioning', you cannot change sex and 'gender identity' has no basis +2. there is however a mountain of evidence going back decades that hormone manipulation comes with significant risk. metabolic dysfunction, autoimmune and neurological disorders, psychological damage, cancer risks and more + +even something as seemingly simple as blocking DHT via finasteride can cause a myriad of problems that are not close to being understood and currently irreversible in some. this entire field of playing with hormones as if they are create a character attributes on a slider is beyond immoral, hormones cannot be changed on an individual basis alone, you modify one and you create a cascade of unintended changes throughout the body, ceasing the hormone therapy does not mean the changes will revert either. + +this is why hormone therapy is used almost exclusively to *restore balance* to a system that is now deficient (e.g. menopause, addisons), using it to try and mimic the opposite sex cannot produce anything but undesirable results and health problems +--- 15381668 +>>15381655 +>t-two more weeks!!!! keep crying I guess? +The neo-gas chambers are sterilization operations this time, voluntary too. + +Two weeks ago was two years ago, dumbass. + +>Nuh uh, I would notice the next revolution! +Fail. +--- 15381669 +>>15381650 +fgm and circumcision exists and is forced on people outside the in-group (such as non-muslims and non-jews.) And society hasn't done anything to stop that. + +Meanwhile a kid asks for hormones consentually, non-forced and you go all rapid ape on everybody. + +No serious tranner is trying to force SRS on kids (or even adults for that matter, the tech is too primitive and some of the results are questionable in terms of passing.) +--- 15381674 +>>15381190 +The regret rates for reassignment surgery are lower than regret rates for like... every other surgery. Main incidence of people regretting or de-transitioning seems to involve lack of financial resources/lack of family/social support. + +I would/data does suggest that the main part of the reason for the low regret rates is that - these procedures are not as simple as say, finding a doctor who will give you botox injections or do a scope on a painful knee. The individuals who end up transitioning tend to have quite literally YEARS of medical/psychological treatment leading up to a final decision for a reassignment surgery. + +There are countless steps along the way, including extensive counseling/therapy & use of hormones and/or hormone suppressing medications - getting as close to living in their perceived true identity for extended periods along with close psychological/physical medical care. It seems this is quite a robust system to help prevent patients from undergoing surgical interventions if there is any meaningful doubt on the part of the patient/the involved professionals that the patient isn't truly a candidate/will have regrets. + +It's disingenuous to present it to be as simple as go; to MD; say you want surgery; & get surgery. + +Compare this to something like a breast enlargement/reduction surgery: 1. Want it/can afford? 2. No major contraindicating health risks to surgery? 3. No major psychological disturbances that puts your ability to consent into question? Congrats - you can get your surgery, maybe even within just a few weeks of your first consult. + +>in 2022, Young et al. reported 12% of women reported dissatisfaction with breast augmentation results + +>2021 Bustros et al: Gender ressign surg(GAS): N=7928: 1% Regret (77/7928) - crediting selection criteria for GAS + +Whatever happened to facts over feelings? + +Why do you even care so much about shit that doesn't impact you? 'Hate what you fear; fear what you don't understand' +--- 15381681 +>>15381658 +"jazz jennings" +if jazz should detrans then fat men should be trans. Your logic is that fatness=depression and is caused by gender incongruence. +--- 15381682 +>>15381178 (OP) +>the only working treatment currently +That doesn't mean anything when research into alternatives is forbidden. +--- 15381684 +>>15381667 +>there is however a mountain of evidence going back decades that hormone manipulation comes with significant risk. metabolic dysfunction, autoimmune and neurological disorders, psychological damage, cancer risks and more + +lmao, can you show me some proof that modern HRT causes any of those things? (modern hrt includes estradiol in all forms, cyprotone acetate, spiro, finasteride, bica) + +the only thing that is partly true is the cancer part, but the only reason hrt increases risk of breast cancer is because you develop breasts with it, so like yeah obviously since you have more breast tissue. and even then the risk is increased by a very small bit + +>>15381682 +>doesnt provide any evidence for her claims +--- 15381689 +>>15381669 +>No serious tranner is trying to force SRS on kids +totally disingenuous argument and you know it. all of the prior "gender affirming" steps like changing their name/pronouns, wardrobe, puberty blockers, and hormones are a one-way conveyor belt straight into srs. do you actually think a neurotic broken brain 18-year-old who has gone through 10+ years of cultish "affirmation" is suddenly going to opt out of the surgical step once the option is available? +--- 15381702 +>>15381681 +Had it all...fame, fortune, love, support...but now she cant even bother dilating... + +ITS ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE THING. +END. OF. PSYCHOLOGICAL. INQUERY. +--- 15381703 +>>15381674 +Anon you are giving these guys way to much credit. These are the same people who believe the earth is flat. They don't care about truth, they are only interested in circle jerking about the IQ results they got on some shitty website that sold their emails to China. +--- 15381714 +other than that 41% kill themselves, no none at all +--- 15381716 +>>15381684 +Why are you misgendering me? And I don't need to provide evidence for well-known facts, such as widespread legal prohibitions on conversion therapy. +--- 15381729 +>>15381714 +>another episode of anon is illiterate and cant read statistics. + +>>15381716 +> And I don't need to provide evidence for well-known facts + +durrr the world the is flat!!! uhhh you want proof??? i dont need to provide evidence cause its COMMON sense + +lmao i accept your concession +--- 15381740 +>>15381703 +wait, earth isn't flat? + +I know there is 0 chance in changing the minds of pretty much anyone that posts this dribble - but if someone oriented to reality, or someone who is on the fence, or someone who is already in support of human rights reads my reply and find something that useful... maybe something to help them in a future discussion where they actually have a chance to change a mind/make someone second guess their bad stances... well, then it is worth posting things like that from time to time. +--- 15381746 +>>15381729 +You're arguing in bad faith and I have better things to do. + +https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/conversion_therapy +--- 15381748 +>>15381740 +This is a Studies Thread, get that naz stem out of here NOW!!! +--- 15381754 +>>15381689 +If they are 18 they aren't a kid. Anyway the mainstream opinion is that women with a penis are still women. If there is a push for SRS i'm unaware of this. There is probably a lot of hugboxing about SRS making people believe the surgery isn't as primitive as it is. +--- 15381755 +>>15381740 +God speed anon, you got way more patience then I do +--- 15381759 +>>15381360 +Moron. Are prosthetics immoral? +--- 15381772 +>>15381684 +spiro is definitely trash. the sooner its banned the better. better for both sides. less suicides and less tranner behavoirs for the Right to criticize. +--- 15381792 +>>15381178 (OP) +The problem with the internet is that people around the world can't recognsie origins behind movements or see who is preaching this shit for the most part, or that they are too dumb to recognise the origins. But all this wacky shit originated strongly from America. People elsewhere should recognise all this wacky crap is the work of only wacky people, and the capital of wacky is America, especially California. Rather than think these movements are a sporadic phenomenon to be seriously adopted, the world instead needs to see that it comes from wack jobs in America and leave it for them to sweat it out. +--- 15381795 +Here's the most recent systematic review coming out of Sweden. + +https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/apa.16791 + +>Evidence to assess the effects of hormone treatment on the above fields in children with gender dysphoria are insufficient. To improve future research, we present the GENDHOR checklist, a checklist for studies in gender dysphoria. + +Basically no one knows shit. +--- 15381797 +>>15381702 +Honestly I'm not sure what your point is or what you are trying to say. + +My point is, Jazz got fat. The Right says thats proof she shouldn't have transitioned. If so, then fat cis men are not cis, they should transitioned because the fatness clearly indicates they are unhappy with their gender. If you'll I agree I'll agree. I'd accept a trade where Jazz detranses and all the fat men of the world become trans. +--- 15381823 +>>15381716 +>Complains SRS is mutiliation even though noone is actually forcing SRS on people +>Complains HRT might have unforeseen health complications and is pushed by crazy Californians +>Complains that alternative treatments like conversion therapy are censored. Even though conversion therapy is a barbaric treatment where people are held against their will and electrocuted by crazy religious fanatics. +--- 15381833 +>>15381178 (OP) +Gay = dead +If they live they are just screwing the rest of humans +--- 15381843 +>>15381797 +>Honestly I'm not sure what your point is or what you are trying to say. +Holy shit youre...try rereading it like you dont know me, dummy... +>My point is, Jazz got fat +Thats a Psychological symptom, child. +>The Right says +...and it all makes sense why you cant understand me. Im a Psychologist specializing in Developmental Psy. and Evolutionary Cognition. + +Genetics backup my studies and its broader than "human", I trace it back billions of years. + +Hence....youre a "Studies" perspective, I just STUDy, as I can view this from many MANY perspectives, including human. +--- 15381907 +>>15381843 +Listen, retard. You have some dumb argument that Jazz went fat because she transitiioned. If you could use 2+2 logic you'd find out that means fat must have the wrong gender. Because your logic is "fat=wrong gender of their body." + +Could care less if you have a PhD in Psychology or whatever. It always was filled with quacks and it still is. +--- 15381917 +>>15381178 (OP) +there isn't any real scientific or medical evidence for gender +--- 15381924 +>>15381703 +What a great and professional argument, just like in my Nature articles! +--- 15381929 +>>15381907 +>Listen, retard +POST A PHD OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. + +I do engage in faux back-and-forth because you cannot percieve you were checkmated. +(YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT IGNORANCE) +--- 15382058 +>>15381178 (OP) +Estrogen is literal AIDs poison* and any faggot stupid enough to take it is asking for it especially with how traumatic experiences increase your chances of having auto-immune disorders,this is assuming your doctor didn't just lie to you about the effects. I think that if we are going to help these people with the mental illness gender dysphoria we need to focus on psychotherapy to help these people learn to accept the bodies and work gender more into the way they present themselves they have rather than trying to make the gyno poison less deadly. +--- 15382085 +>>15382058 +*System keeps Flagging my source link as spam but its titled "Mechanisms of sex hormones in autoimmunity: focus on EAE" On BMC +--- 15382272 +>>15382058 +By this logic, doesnt this apply to all cis women too? you realize they have estrogen too right? +--- 15382304 +>>15381178 (OP) +This is the lobotomy of the 21st century. +--- 15382311 +>>15382304 +Why though, it clearly helps gender dysphoric people. +--- 15382398 +>>15382272 +That's what I thought at first as well, but after doing more research I found that these effects are lessened for biological females through trans-generational immune priming while in the womb, while the effects of this process are different for biological males leaving MtF more vulnerable to AI diseases under the effects of estrogen. The Laser hair removal and silicone implants often performed on MtFs also increase your chances of developing AIDs. The reason I focus on MtFs mostly is because I hope most sane people realize that the Steroids taken by FtMs with body image is barely safer than the ones used by Roidtranny body builders dealing with body image issues. +--- 15382399 +>>15382311 +Eugenics and societal disharmony to facilitate corruption.... +--- 15382988 +>>15381929 +This one demands a PhD as an argument. Typical soi tactics. + +Psychiatry has traditionally been always a fringe science or pseudoscience. Claiming you have a PhD in psychiatry is not an argument. +--- 15382994 +>>15382058 +Please show scientific evidence that estrogen is poison. +--- 15383004 +When treating OCD, they tell you those toughts are not real, and doing the compulsion would made it feel better, and it works for a short while, but the obsession gets worse, so treatment is to try to stop doing the compulsion until the obsessions diminishes, transitioning seems a lot like a compulsion. +--- 15383032 +>>15381178 (OP) +The only cure to gender dysphoria is drink until your soul leaves this nightmare +--- 15383049 +>>15383032 +The only cure to gender dysphoria is to consume high dosis of heroin until the soul breaks free from the eartly hell +--- 15383060 +>>15382988 +>Claiming you have a PhD in psychiatry is not an argument. +>t. high-school drop out +--- 15383065 +>>15382988 +>Psychiatry has traditionally been always a fringe science or pseudoscience. >Claiming you have a PhD in psychiatry is not an argument. + +>Move the goal post to a distance you can make. + +This is how I know youre not a genuine researcher....youre just a shitposter. +--- 15383118 +>>15383065 +Says the keyboard warrior who's probably wearing a fedora right now. + +Argument of authority or waving a PhD around is pathetic. And rational people don't take the DSM as gospel +--- 15383126 +>>15381178 (OP) +it's spiritually bad +I don't care about muh studies +--- 15383131 +Its called "argument of authority fallacy" look it up. + +Fedora bros have been doing it since the beginning of the internet and its still as lame as it ever was. + +If PhD is your only argument then what do you say when other people with PhD's disagree with your opinions on trans issues? +--- 15383144 +>>15383126 +What is spiritual about males having bad aesthetics and being incels? + +If HRT is truly as toxic as some of these shitters say, then we need to research new ways to improve the aesthetics of males. + +Also I doubt that HRT is as toxic as the shitters say. +--- 15383159 +>>15383118 +>Argument of authority +Im backing up my posts with MY credentials. The authority is ME, asshat. + +You want your "medical opinion" respected, ok then...what have you done to EARN that? +>And rational people don't take the DSM as gospel + +I KNOW. I REWROTE IT. + +>>15381635 +>How about you take a course of Genetics and Evolutionary Biology....you know, all the way back when SEX evolved into existence... +--- 15383168 +>>15383131 +>If PhD is your only argument then what do you say when other people with PhD's disagree with your opinions on trans issues? +I fucking wreck them on every level of the argument. 100%. + +Oh...and for the people that "agree" with me too because I'll take them deeper into the abyss then they knew was even possible except they can understand what Im saying because I SPEAK STEM, SO YOU? +--- 15383222 +>>15382272 +Biofemales are far more susceptible to many autoimmune diseases than males. There's probably an immune mechanism for the purpose of carrying pregnancy to term that goes haywire and becomes overly sensitive to the individual's own cells and tissues. +--- 15383919 +>>15381202 +>Survey found +What was the control group? +It isn't science if there is no control group. +Ergo, it's pseudoscience. +A control group of course means a group that wants to "transition" but can't. +"Disphoric" people who don't want to "transition" compared to trannys is apples and oranges. You need to compare trannys to people who are forced to not be trannys but want to be. Without that your links are all meaningless. + +>Rate of suicide attempts dropped dramatically from 29.3 percent to 5.1 percent after receiving medical and surgical treatment +This is just an obvious lie or cherry picked time frame. The attempt rate is 41% among "trans" people and everyone knows this. Absolutely nothing drops it to 5% +To clear up the ostensible pretend explanatory power of that nonsense; if an anorexic girl got her stomach stapled shut, she certainly would say she was satisfied and had better mental health in the short term, but she would be just as mentally fucked up as before and eventually the dismorphia would come right back. This is exactly what is happening with these mentally ill people who chop off their genitals. +Like others have correctly pointed out it's just a honeymoon phase. + +https://archive.is/KbvRw +>Last year, a groundbreaking study published in the American Journal of Psychiatry (AJP) claimed to prove that transgender surgery improves the mental health of people suffering from gender dysphoria (the persistent and painful identification with the gender opposite one’s biological sex). Earlier this month, however, AJP issued a “correction” that acknowledged key flaws in the study and admitted that the true results “demonstrated no advantage of surgery.” This represents a severe blow to the transgender ideological takeover of American medicine +--- 15383948 +>>15381674 +>The regret rates for reassignment surgery are lower than regret rates for like... every other surgery +You are completely off the rails delusional +They "don't" regret it because the surgery was part of their mental disorder identity. They have to tell themselves it was the right thing to do every day and if they did not do it they would be less happy. +In reality of course, majority of them still look at themselves every day and realize the surgery makes them disfigured freaks. That is obviously going to make someone regret the decision in a mentally healthy person, but they are not mentally healthy so they pretend they are satisfied. +The complication rate is in the stratosphere compared to to other surgeries too. It's impossible to deny that the "regret rates" in these sick individuals are completely masked by their delusions. +--- 15383983 +>>15381359 +Even fake girl problems are more important than the common man's. +--- 15384131 +>>15381662 +Pimozide. +--- 15384142 +>>15384131 +Any actual evidence though? like maybe a study? (inb4 you post an anecdote of it working once) +--- 15384313 +>>15381202 +If you believe that this is in any way incontestable you need to up your suicide rate. +Holy science! We just discovered that people feel hopeful when you validate them and give them what they ask for! Yeah, give it 10 years. Fucking retards, cowards and psychos. +--- 15384353 +>>15381662 +Learning to accept yourself as you are. Understand that transitioning isnt going to make you the opposite sex. +There are lots of people who are extremely ugly, disfigured, or mentally ill who are forced to learn to accept themselves both physically and mentally. + +I can't really say I understand you plight but could you explain more in depth how dysphoria makes you feel? Growing up I was, and still am, short. I always desperately wished I could be taller, but eventually I came to terms with the fact that that would never happen, so as I got older I just learned to accept it as a part of myself. Now I'm actually pretty happy with my height and dont really think about it at all. +--- 15384358 +>>15383159 + +So we must all get on our knees and prostrate our selves before anyone who happens to have a PhD? Sounds like some sort of cult. + +A lot of people who have PhD's don't know what they are talking about. "Food only exists to get olive oil into your body" was said by some guy with a MD. Oh and by the way, a long time ago the MD's said cigarettes' were healthy. + +PhD stands for Doctor of Philosophy. You are just making philosophical shitpostings like every other philosopher before you. +--- 15384366 +>>15383919 +You lost the argument so you resort to a strawman and changing the goal posts. + +SRS is a primitive thing and if the results even pass is questionable. The serious tranners are not demanding SRS on people. Transwomen are women. + +It's not even worth arguing if SRS provides a net benefit or not. It's primitive, I'm unsure if all SRS vags pass, and has physical side requirements like dilation. One thing I'm sure of is that SRS is not the same as "chopping your dick off". + +Anyway, we are long past SRS, moving on to the shemale master race. +--- 15384371 +>>15384353 +"Just be fugly bro and learn to accept it" + +Fuck this. +--- 15384373 +>>15383972 +So what? They don't even pass and still look aesthetically superior to some cis men. +--- 15384381 +>>15381178 (OP) +--- 15384388 +>>15381178 (OP) +Friendly reminder that tr00ny groomers (like OP) will say that "conversion therapy" doesn't work on trannies and that it only makes their condition worse. Double reminder that they also say "conversion therapy" for pedos makes them not fuck children. +--- 15384389 +>>15384366 +>You lost the argument so you resort to a strawman and changing the goal posts. + +You don't even know what these words mean, you parrot them reflexively in response to losing the argument. + + +>It's not even worth arguing if SRS provides a net benefit or not + +Here is you admitting that SRS is bad. The moment you start saying medical procedures aren't worth debating cost/benefit, you've admitted that you're motivated by ideology and fanaticism, not facts or reality. +--- 15384419 +>>15381178 (OP) +How is chemically altering your body not dangerous? +--- 15384425 +>>15384419 +How is it dangerous though? +--- 15384427 +>>15384389 +Here's to showing you can't argue. Was debate class a part of your PhD or not? + +I didn't say SRS is "bad". Its just at tool to get a result. Some of the results are less than ideal, so naturally some might get buyer's remorse. While others are okay with that. Just like any other product. +--- 15384431 +>>15381178 (OP) +If sex has nothing to do with gender, then why gender dismorphya or transitioning at all? Why you remove pp if pp does not matter if you are woman or man +--- 15384480 +>>15383144 +>then we need to research new ways to improve the aesthetics of males. + +Or just accept some men are going to be ugly. + +It's a consequence of some men being handsome. This is basic ancient wisdom. + +Rather than turning them into ugly women, just have them improve their lifestyle and become less ugly men. +--- 15384488 +>>15384427 +>I didn't say SRS is "bad" + +You tacitly admitted to it the moment you started saying that medical procedures shouldn't have cost/risk analysis. + +You're clearly a motivated shill and the way you refer to it as a 'product' means you simply view it as cosmetic surgery, not a treatment for anything. + +You are merely a profit seeker exploiting the most suggestable cattle. diff --git a/sci/15381207.txt b/sci/15381207.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..911b77980c4fc962b6ae0d3ea90081404288f5b1 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381207.txt @@ -0,0 +1,2769 @@ +----- +--- 15381207 +We're gonna need a bigger pad Edition + +https://twitter.com/unrocket/status/1649425500526329863 +--- 15381212 +>>15381207 (OP) +That's what she said. +--- 15381238 +>>15381207 (OP) +We will rebuild +--- 15381252 +>>15381238 +Might as well build a new tower and tank farm. And build up the rest of the factory instead of tents. + +Like, build it correctly the first time? +--- 15381280 +>>15381207 (OP) +holy shit +yeah thats gonna take some time heal +--- 15381285 +this is how starship does stage separation +--- 15381293 +>>15381285 +thats uhhh.. +well atleast we know it can keep itself together while doing spins +--- 15381315 +I don't get it, why didn't they use the water deluge system? They tested it a few months ago. Were they deliberating testing how much damage the rebounding sound can do? +--- 15381335 +>>15381285 +that looks retarded. +--- 15381346 +>>15381285 +I hope they keep that design for the manned flight like Dear Moon +--- 15381349 +>>15381280 +https://youtu.be/8Zty_4MUm3g [Embed] + +One day to pour concrete, a week to cure and is as good as new. +--- 15381351 +>>15381285 +if you look at where its actually spinning then its not too bad for any crew on board +--- 15381353 +>>15381252 +>Like, build it correctly the first time? +and where can we see these blueprints of the "correct" builds ULAnon? +--- 15381354 +>>15381285 +Imagine being the crew, weeeeeeeeeeeeeee +--- 15381364 +>>15381212 +Giga redditor. The post +--- 15381365 +>36 months to build a new state of the art launch pad +fuck me anons I think I might rope +--- 15381374 +>>15381285 +passengers must clear bowels and stomach before launch +>>15381349 +> 2 weeks of formwork +--- 15381378 +holy shit actually go back and listen to what they are saying during the launch +>>15381285 +the flipping wasn't the problem it just didn't separate +--- 15381384 +>last thread is at page 6 +>/SFG/ +I fucking hate newfags. Lurk more you absolute fucking retard. +--- 15381420 +>>15381285 +you´re on top of a rocket along with 50 other passengers to the moon, the journey will take 3-5 days or so, there are plenty of snacks and water onboard, you twiddle your fingers ready for launch. As everyone sits down, command center says "WE GAAAN" and the rocket lifs off, for 3 minutes you feel the increasing acceleration provided by super heavy until an automated voice says "initiating stage separation, please make sure your seat belts are buckled up and you have the given vomit bags ready" + +out of fucking nowhere the rocket pulls severals g´s at 30km above air at demon speed, goes upside down, returns to horizontal and decouples from superheavy,you vomit along with everyone else, after the manouver the 6 raptor engines start up in the back but everyone still vomiting and crying, the stench is unbearable, some people are praying for god, others just sit there with a thousand yard stare, 2 or 3 kids are crying and the smell of shit is distinct and potent enough to be discerned, students are complaining and one has already broken down, the automated voice returns "Coasting to orbit, thank you for flying with SpaceX, Fly safe!" +you look into the filled vomit bag you hold with dread +--- 15381424 +>>15381420 +if you look at how it will spin you will probably feel jack shit because your at the tip of the spin +--- 15381433 +>>15381420 +>WE GAAAN +if I heard that I would pray for a rud even with me onboard +--- 15381447 +For some reason I didn't see this posted yesterday, but keep an eye on the waterline when the rocket begins to take off. + +https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1649097087248891904 +--- 15381464 +> just build a flame trench bro +--- 15381466 +>>15381464 +just one cubic kilometer of concrete, no big deal +--- 15381474 +>>15381207 (OP) +this fart was juust slightly bigger than the others. +--- 15381482 +>>15381285 +you can't be serious +--- 15381485 +stop early staging the thread retard. we were on +--- 15381499 +>>15381285 +>>15381374 +>>15381420 +One must have an strong stomach to travel with Starship, I think I will wait for Dreamchaser. +--- 15381517 +>>15381499 +would little kids be allowed on commercial starship flights? 99.9% of the travel to the moon is pretty calm and without bumps unlike airplanes, but that 0.01% will make kids shit themselves +--- 15381520 +>>15381252 +What's the fun in that? SpaceX has plenty of fuck you money to just asplode into the next iteration. +--- 15381533 +>>15381285 +Why are these steps required? +--- 15381540 +>>15381533 +>Excitement guaranteed +--- 15381547 +>>15381533 +To separate, sweety. +--- 15381552 +>>15381517 +>would little kids be allowed on commercial starship flights? +Yes +--- 15381554 +>>15381207 (OP) +I fully believe that Elon’s gambit was +>Scrape by on environmental approval shit to get one launch +>Do the launch, have it go flawlessly, completely obliterate local environment but it doesn’t matter because you proved the concept and can now GTFO of this wetback sanctuary and transfer all of your shit to the cape +Now he’s fucked. SpaceX is now locked into staying there for longer than they wanted and they’ll get absolutely raped by the EPAs and possibly won’t get another launch approval +--- 15381562 +>>15381315 +Did they test it on the pad? +--- 15381571 +>>15381285 +if they manage to accomplish this i'll kneel +--- 15381581 +>>15381384 +Last page autism is stupid and I don't know why /sfg/ is so obsessed with other than being able to get a small dopamine but from calling others newfags. Once the thread gets past 300 posts, both the quality and quantity rapidly declined and the thread sits and rots until it finally shits out a 500th post. +--- 15381585 +>>15381533 +If starship were to begin the flip at the start of that red box then it's angular momentum would result in it continuing to turn backwards, and needing to fight that with gimballing +--- 15381597 +>>15381581 +because the mods get the final say +if we kept making new threads at bump limit than half of /sci/ would be dead /sfg/ threads +--- 15381602 +https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starships-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/ + +last half is kino + +>I used to regret coming into this world mere months after the final Apollo mission, thinking I had missed the great age of exploration. But I no longer do. In just the last six months, I have seen the launch of the two most powerful rockets ever built, the Space Launch System and Starship. I have seen the naming of not one but two crews that will fly around the Moon, Artemis II and the dearMoon project. As NASA says, we are going. + +>Yet still more remarkably, during the last half-year, I have seen two dozen rockets land on a drone ship and fly again. We no longer treat this as remarkable, but we absolutely should. These now-routine Falcon 9 first stage landings at sea are a harbinger of the future. They are like the first fish to walk out of the sea 375 million years ago on Earth, beginning the extraordinary transformation of life on Earth. With these Falcon 9 landings—and now Starship—we are seeing the transformation of life off Earth. + +>I turned 50 years old yesterday. In those five decades, we have gone from flying a fully expendable Saturn V rocket to the beginnings of a fully reusable Starship rocket. Much remains to be done, and Starship is a work in progress. But this is historic. No one really knows what our planet, our orbit, or our Solar System will look like with low-cost launch, frequent access to space, and essentially no constraints on mass. We have never experienced anything like that before. + +>This is a far more wonderful and wild time in space than any that came before. There is incredible opportunity and peril. The future is unknowable but tantalizing. + +>So I no longer have any regrets about missing Apollo. I am thrilled to be alive at this very moment in human history. + +Berger is and always will be the best space journo +--- 15381608 +>>15381581 +lurk moar newfag +--- 15381616 +>>15381533 +Fling off the booster. Starship and the booster don't have explosive bolts or anything holding them together, it's just a very snug fit. That maneuver is designed to fling the booster off. So far it's zero for one in working properly but hopefully they got some good data out of it and can adjust the maneuvers for the next test. +--- 15381620 +Just launch it at sea via droneship Sea Dragon style +--- 15381625 +>>15381597 +Mods don't seem to have that issue with any other thread, general or not. Sounds like a made up excuse for /sfg/ autism. +--- 15381627 +>>15381554 +Nah, he was too overtly dubious about launch success. +--- 15381628 +>>15381581 +Kill yourself you newfag retard. Imagine coming to a general and whining over how things are done. Either fit in or fuck off. +--- 15381632 +>>15381625 +retarded newfag +--- 15381636 +>>15381625 +Maybe because you haven't been here for more than a few days you retard? +--- 15381639 +>>15381625 +holy newfag +what a fucking dumbass, a kind anon already told you the reason and you double down, fuck off +--- 15381640 +>>15381616 +>Starship and the booster don't have explosive bolts or anything holding them together, it's just a very snug fit. +I didn't know that +--- 15381649 +>Hot stage +>Ullage engine +>A fucking spring +NOOO JUST FLIP IT +--- 15381677 +>>15381207 (OP) + +OHH NN + +https://youtu.be/KJ-rnr3XvRQ [Embed] +--- 15381694 +>>15381378 +It lost control 40 seconds before nominal MECO at 600m/s and 35km +--- 15381698 +>>15381365 +The earth is flat with a dome. They are never leaving this plane alive and neither are you. Embrace reality and reject the globohomo illusions, they are stringing you along for decades now (mostly via Hollywood movies and CGI). +--- 15381700 +Why don't we talk about the immense pollution (atmospheric, aquatic and terrestrial) of these launches and the extraordinary damage to the fauna and flora? +--- 15381707 +>>15381602 +The only space exploration you get in this life will be CGI. +--- 15381709 +>>15381700 +Because we don't care. +--- 15381710 +>>15381625 +I always report new threads that get made before the old one hits page 10. Mods respond usually in seconds and delete the prematurely made thread. + +Get fucked faggot. +--- 15381713 +>>15381700 +These mock crafts end up in the ocean and are picked up by the navy. +--- 15381730 +SpaceX didn't realize the power they were creating. +--- 15381732 +>>15381700 +Unironically nobody ever cared. +KSC and Kourou did imense local environmental damage, Falling stage from baikonur were so bad the Kazakh ssr sent an ultimatum to moscow during the USSR lol. China drops hydrazine filled stage on its towns every week +--- 15381738 +>>15381365 +--- 15381744 +>>15381698 + +Except we can tell the earth is spherical without even looking at NASA photos or watching a Goyllywood movie. + +But we should listen to the smooth brain flerf because reasons. +--- 15381761 +>>15381700 + +Oh no! All that (Checks notes) water vapor being released into the atmosphere. +--- 15381777 +>>15381533 +They can't "afford" a 500 kg pneumatic system to separate the stages, so instead they'd rather burn 2000+ kg of fuel to do some flips. Yes, it's retarded. +--- 15381789 +>Clouds make curved dome shape, not parallel and straight with horizon +>"huh, earth must be a dome then" +lol +--- 15381855 +>>15381533 +They aren't. The engine shuts off at step 3. This entire maneuver was supposed to be in near vacuum. +--- 15381863 +> +--- 15381880 +>>15381700 +a drop in the ocean compared to global consumption and waste encouraged by states and central banks of totally unnecessary things used simply to keep made up economic figures "healthy". in one day people eating fast food globally will do more environmental damage than 100 years of total spaceflight development and use and thats before you get to the negative and positive outcomes of both (the environmental cost of obesity vs scientific monitoring of the earth from satellites for example). +--- 15381884 +>>15381420 +the great virgin vs chad filter +--- 15381888 +>>15381554 +meanwhile in reality he was doubting if it even got off the launch area +--- 15381915 +>>15381207 (OP) +this is salvageable +t. used to repair infrastructure +--- 15381916 +unironically the glass/nuke the earth meme is true, the only way to convince all of humanity to reach for the stars is to make living conditions so unbelievably hellish that anywhere but earth is a good place to live +--- 15381934 +>>15381916 +we're already on that timeline +--- 15381941 +>>15381285 +Manned mission in this flying dustbin is going to kill people +--- 15381946 +>IESLB +>dishonest (you) farming +--- 15381951 +>>15381207 (OP) +Digging the flame trench, one launch at the time. +--- 15381952 +>>15381285 +It's a bold strategy Cotton. + +But seriously it does eliminate the need for most if not all ullage thrust and a lot of RCS at least on the booster, which is rather interesting. Seems like Starship will still need some kind of a kick to settle it's fuel but the booster's fuel will settle from centrifugal force. +Obviously they've done it in sim so all the physics must be sound, and apparently the vehicle can handle the forces. +--- 15381980 +>>15381700 +Alright, I'll bite. What pollution are you talking about? +--- 15382011 +>>15381980 +Sound pollution +Light pollution + +Many birds will leave their nests after hearing the sound of launch, their nests and chicks will be abandoned. +Some birds will simply fall down with their heads damaged. + +Many turtles are going to the light of the moon after hatching, but SpaceX doesn't care and their launchpad is flashing like moon in the night. +--- 15382022 +>>15381980 +>microparticles +>noise (this is a serious subject, it disturbs the fauna enormously) +>carbon black ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_black ) +>debris and dust + +And of course, this only concerns the rocket itself. If we take into account all the material and human environment around, the impact is even more considerable. +--- 15382053 +>>15382026 + +Let me guess.... You probably think those are your original thoughts and you have broken free if your program? + +Kinda sounds like something a programmed npc would say. +--- 15382056 +>>15382053 +don't feed the troll +--- 15382064 +>>15382056 + +My bad. You're right. +--- 15382092 +>>15381700 +while we are at it let's ban everything that pollutes more than the rockets. +--- 15382101 +>>15381285 +This is the most Chad maneuver of the whole process. The tower catch looks like a joke now +--- 15382109 +>>15381285 +This is stupid as fuck. Even playing Kerbal you’d know. +--- 15382113 +>>15381285 +spin energy is too powerful bros +--- 15382116 +>>15381285 +If I knew about this I wouldn't have expected it to reach orbit +--- 15382118 +>>15381700 +unironically I am all for the chinese century. spacex should relocate +--- 15382122 +>>15381285 +Doesn't the diagram SpaceX showed have only one half spin? +--- 15382139 +>>15381207 (OP) +>>15381285 +They should really stop taking Musks brain farts seriously +--- 15382147 +>>15382139 +no its based and the only problem is there were no explosives to solve the separation issue +--- 15382149 +>>15381707 +shoo shoo, away with you retard +--- 15382164 +>>15382147 +>there's only the option of explosives or doing a retarded flip that wastes fuel +--- 15382173 +>>15381207 (OP) +How will this impact the second launch site they are already building next to launch pad 39A? NASA will never let them launch Starship over there if it blows up the Crew Dragon launch facility in the process. +--- 15382185 +>>15382164 +>wastes fuel +its the booster who cares you want to optimize for the ship going to space. (small) explosives will just mean there will never be a problem with separation. +--- 15382186 +>>15382173 +That one is not supposed to be for testing +--- 15382190 +>>15381207 (OP) +They’re not flying again this year +--- 15382192 +those oil rigs 100% would not survive starship +--- 15382199 +>>15381207 (OP) +Any idea how is the tower? +--- 15382207 +>>15382186 +True, but if they build it anything like what they have at Boca Chica, they can scrap it right away and rebuild it, because that shit won't last. I doubt we'll see another launch attempt on any site before 2024. They have some major construction to do. +--- 15382208 +>>15381533 +Imagine being picked for dear moon and you see this lmao +--- 15382210 +>>15382207 +Pretty sure construction at pad 39A has stopped for a while already. +--- 15382213 +>>15382053 +I trust my senses. I don't feel any movement and all I see is a flat horizon, no curve anywhere to be seen both from higher altitude and from the ground. These are my original thoughts yes. The flat earth truth just happens to confirm all this. +--- 15382214 +>>15382185 +>small explosives +I KNEW IT +--- 15382215 +why not build walls around the rocket with one opening towards shit you don't care about (preferably where the turtles are)??? +--- 15382219 +I'm trying to understand the decision making when looking at debris being thrown 100m+, at least to me, the launch only made sense if either: + +>The engineers didn't predict the risks +>The engineers did predict the risks but the information didn't manage to come to the top with the importance it had +>The engineers did predict the risks but some kind of go fever overtook it due to pressure either from the higher ups or from an external source +>SpaceX genuinely accepted a multi-kiloton launch pad RUD with 5000 tons of propellant as an acceptable risk, both from a PR, legal and development point of view, that wouldn't set their program back more than not launching it. + +Could someone criticise this reasoning? +--- 15382225 +>>15382219 +it all makes sense when you realize spacex is less a company and more a cult. +--- 15382227 +They really shouldn't have built their testing facility in a place where you can't build anything +--- 15382233 +>>15382225 +They're a very efficient cult then. +--- 15382234 +>>15382219 +Option #4 is most likely + +Remember, if you're looking at this from a cost/benefit perspective they were already going to have to do something about the rocket exhaust but the time and cost of building it specifically for this first launch likely reached or exceeded building a solution while repairing the damage from the launch without it + +Like they said, they really only cared that it didn't blow up the launch tower. The OLM was fair game +--- 15382239 +Look at this way, they probably would have needed to remove the concrete anyways. +--- 15382240 +>>15382227 +corps are having multi year holds on building datacenters anywhere. the us is a dead country. +--- 15382244 +>>15382234 +>they really only cared that it didn't blow up the launch tower +Wouldn't a worst case pad RUD also destroy it? + +If #4 is true, then SpaceX believes that the current Starbase's launch pad is basically useless as an operational infrastructure. +--- 15382250 +>>15382244 +the worst case is staying on earth brother +--- 15382260 +they should do a 1+ minute static fire and dig a huge hole under the OLM. then when next launch there will be no concrete to be destroyed because the big hole. +--- 15382275 +>>15382250 +Touché +--- 15382293 +>>15382244 +The truly puzzling thing is why it wasn't designed in the first place for the thrust they were expecting + +Granted they increased their expected thrust figure by a significant margin after Starbase was constructed when they went to Raptor 2s, but still, "hoping to not need a flame diverter for OLM" is a statement from someone about to learn the hard way why they're needed +--- 15382322 +>>15381700 +Nigga you should complain about the cruise industry instead of space shit that is actually worth it. +--- 15382327 +15382026 +gather round children, this is what "poisoning the well" look like +Look at how this foreign agitator goes out of his way to list off all the newest flavours of disobedience and staple them to blatant retardation +by doing this, the hope is that he can associate anything his employers don't like with stances only the most irrecoverably mentally ill would take +its a very old yet incredibly effective tactic +--- 15382417 +new hullo dropped +--- 15382443 +>>15382293 +blame whoever made the super concrete I guess. don't think its really feasible to build a flame diverter large enough for starship (so like the biggest ever made) in swampland for a testing facility. will always be cheaper to repair whatever damage afterwards even if they do like monthly test flights for the next decade lmfao +--- 15382458 +>>15381207 (OP) + +Previous + +>>15379966 → +>>15379966 → +>>15379966 → +--- 15382470 +personally I prefer the newspace one (Gravitics Starmax) +--- 15382483 +>>15382470 +Gay and small. You’re a huge fag if even oldspace is dreaming bigger than you +--- 15382492 +>you can't build a flame trench in a swamp---ACK +they should've asked the dutch +--- 15382505 +https://twitter.com/StephanieAus67/status/1649362769253404673 +--- 15382506 +Scott on you know what +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8q24QLXixo [Embed] +--- 15382512 +>>15382505 +--- 15382518 +>>15382505 +>>15382512 +Thanks for sending the same image twice, really helps the image limit +--- 15382520 +>>15382512 + +>>15382483 +if the airbus homomodule is too big to fly on Starship its pretty much DOA +--- 15382525 +I decided to read the hacker news thread on the launch. the absolute hatred of elon and anything associated with him is quite amazing. is reddit as bad? the media doing everything they can to say that a national champion is a failure is interesting as well. I don't know should I be happy that I don't share a love of space with such people? +--- 15382533 +Starliner soon? +--- 15382534 +https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1649512828804423684 +--- 15382535 +Mod please delete this thread +--- 15382545 +>>15382525 +I am sure some of them loves le epic space, even if they despise Elon. Lets just embrace the fact that everyone behaves differently and there is no one universal thought shared by all +Except one: All earthers must die. +--- 15382548 +>>15382534 +Why did they call their company Adult Baby Lovers, JFC - this is going far beyond a joke at this point +--- 15382553 +>>15381207 (OP) +since when are newfags allowed to make threads? Jannies clean it up +--- 15382568 +>>15381581 +/sci/ is such a slow board, that making a new general each time the old one reached 300 pages would mean like half the threads on /sci/ were /sfg/ threads +it also splits discussion as people reply without seeing if a thread has staged yet +--- 15382571 +>>15382545 +no. anyone who in anyway obstructs humanity from leaving this rock deserves the roko treatment +>>15381581 +>outsider refuses to assimilate to local culture +many such cases sadly +--- 15382573 +>>15381698 +is there a name for this schizo graphic design style? +it's always these cheesy bloated photo collages +--- 15382582 +>>15382573 +The schizo hates visual simplicity and elegance in the same way he hates explanatory simplicity and elegance +--- 15382583 +>>15381581 +nice ragebait +--- 15382587 +2 MONTHS +--- 15382594 +>>15382568 +I don't even bother looking at the rest of the board, its all midwit trash, narcissistic attention whoring and spam advertising. I just keep an /sfg/ tab open and I never have to see the rest of the garbage or fret over what page /sfg/ is on. +--- 15382597 +>>15382518 +seething +--- 15382604 +>>15382594 +yeah +--- 15382613 +https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1649523985837686784 +--- 15382619 +>>15382613 +4 weeks holy shit, its happening +WE GAAN +--- 15382620 +why the fuck would they build a gay tower that destroys itself every launch + +are they retarded +--- 15382621 +>2 months + +blackpillers BTFO +--- 15382626 +>>15382620 +simple trick to boost GDP +--- 15382630 +Enhanced estros video + +Ship held on to booster to the very end + +>1 sec before Booster FTS explosion +--- 15382632 +>>15382626 +ah so spacex is run by keynesians +Increase launch costs to increase contract values +--- 15382633 +>>15382219 +>Could someone criticise this reasoning +There is no reasoning in the post. Just low iq rambling +--- 15382635 +seems insane people think it will take over a year to fill a hole with concrete. is it really just libs got too primed on hating trump that without him around they HAD to imprint all that anger onto someone else? +--- 15382636 +Ladies and Gentlemen, + +>we're back +--- 15382638 +>>15382219 +It's likely the entire launch pad facility at boca chica was obsolete from the get go, and that once you started building the tower you aren't gonna make changes underneath +--- 15382642 +>>15382613 +HE HAS SPOKEN +--- 15382643 +>>15382636 +>elon claiming 1-2 months to repair the OLM +how likely is this? +--- 15382649 +>>15382643 +What the fuck do you think, newfag? +>September 2019 +>Mk3 will be orbital launch ready in 3 months +--- 15382651 +>>15382506 +Finally this Krystal video practically wrote itself +--- 15382653 +>>15382613 +ActivecooedsteelGODS WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING +--- 15382655 +>>15382636 +LETS GOOO +--- 15382658 +>>15382636 +>1 month +HE'S AIMING FOR 6/9 +--- 15382660 +>>15382534 +RL chads stay firmly in second place +Also notice how there isn't a single BO launch there LMAO +--- 15382661 +>>15382613 +If this was a government programme they'd be using that special space grade concrete that takes 50 years to set now wouldn't they +--- 15382662 +>>15382613 +two more 2 weeks, I'm so ready bros +--- 15382663 +>>15382613 +Man, I was so right ---------------------- holy shit I am in orbit and looking down on the rest of you plebians. Feelsfuckingoodmainey +--- 15382668 +>>15382219 +As evidenced by Elon tweet. The engineers saw the risk but mispredicted the magnitude. +Really not surprising. Only larpers will say it was "obvious" when the 29 engine firing worked fine. +--- 15382670 +>>15382582 +damn, it looks stylish without the helmet +--- 15382676 +>>15382597 +derth yumans +--- 15382680 +>>15382636 +>>15382613 +Is this our most accurate estimate of Elon time yet? +1 to 2 months is equal to 4 to 6 months? +--- 15382683 +>>15382613 +TWO MONTHS +--- 15382686 +>>15382680 +its more like 2.5x instead of 2x, but I guess it depends somewhat +--- 15382698 +>>15382680 +I mean what's the hold up here? Repair the launch pad, install the plate. they got a starship ready to go. FAA? +--- 15382713 +>>15382698 +Circumstances will change. They could say fuck this let's overhaul it +--- 15382728 +>>15382713 +overhaul what? the already made starships? +--- 15382733 +>nsf are doomers +sigh +--- 15382737 +>>15381285 + +>Elon... +>please..... +--- 15382743 +>>15382737 +fixed +--- 15382744 +how many starships and boosters are they building in the meantime? +--- 15382752 +>>15382744 +and how many are currently ready? +--- 15382754 +>>15382613 +I was just shitposting about the water cooled steel lol I cannot believe it's real. Watercool chuds win agaan +--- 15382758 +>>15382752 +2 ready, something like 3 under production +--- 15382768 +>>15382744 +>>15382752 +https://twitter.com/RingWatchers/status/1648838574110916609 +--- 15382773 +>>15382768 +ship 25 was not flying for some reason I think? +--- 15382777 +when i used to vent storage tanks, it could take 3 days to vent your average 20k gallon tank. idk how it works at spacex, but it could take a significant while for them to vent the stage 0 fuel farm. +--- 15382785 +>>15382777 +They're not venting the fuel farm. The damaged tanks are water. +--- 15382787 +>>15382785 +i'm listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omouxjzI17U [Embed] and they think spacex is allowing the tanks to vent on their own due to damage +--- 15382803 +>>15382535 +>>15382553 +This. +I wouldn't care if it weren't so fucked up with /SFG/ and no link to previous thread and OP posting repeat images. +--- 15382810 +>>15382668 +It was pretty obvious since they had ran into debris damaging engines before hand numerous times. +--- 15382818 +>>15382698 +The rocket nearly dug out the OLM what’s this cope that this is an acceptable oopsie? +--- 15382824 +>>15382803 +you should care even if it stages before page 10 +--- 15382829 +>>15382818 +pour more concrete who cares lmfao why the fuck would you spend a decade building a flame diverter in a test site for the biggest rocket in the world versus a few concrete trucks +--- 15382833 +>>15382818 +OLM is still standing, redditorkun +just needs a spit shine and it'll be good to go +--- 15382838 +>>15382810 +>It was pretty obvious since they had ran into debris damaging engines before hand numerous times. +Not with the properly cured FONDAG. +--- 15382842 +wouldnt be NSF video without shilling new merch +--- 15382843 +>>15382818 +What does this even mean? +--- 15382847 +>>15382843 +the rocket blasted a crater that dug out some of the foundations of the Orbital Launch Mount (OLM) +--- 15382848 +>>15382829 +>it nearly destroyed the rocket but it’s ok +Lol +--- 15382850 +https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1649527628494151680 + +LOL + +WATERLOGGED CRATER TIME +--- 15382852 +it is kind of encouraging that NASA literally drew starship stand-ins for their moon to mars transit and lander vehicles, despite the jobs programs they want spacex to succeed so bad +--- 15382853 +>>15382852 +>they want spacex to succeed so bad +>He doesn't know +Watching mustarde cope for the next 5 years is gonna be hilarious +--- 15382856 +>>15382848 +oh no not a booster that was going into the ocean right after lmfao +--- 15382859 +>>15382853 +of course it's not going to be obvious to someone who doesn't go digging for it. who do you think owns the press? +--- 15382860 +>>15382847 +I know. I don't understand the post. +Obviously they'll repair it +--- 15382863 +>>15381207 (OP) +/sfg/ will say EARTHERS must die, but only Starship actually kills the earth. +--- 15382865 +>>15382860 +bro how are they ever going to find new dirt and concrete???????? +--- 15382871 +>>15382860 +Nta but apparently the foundation is super hard to repair due to the total OLM mass +--- 15382876 +>>15382852 +The people working at NASA are decisively pro-SpaceX. It's the politicians who prefer grift to progress. +--- 15382877 +>>15382525 +>is reddit as bad? +It isn't in the related subreddits like r/space and r/spacex. The rest of the site is probably as bad as you would expect. + +The haters hate on spacex because they hate Musk wich is obviously retarded but who cares about their opinions? They don't actually like the topic. +--- 15382879 +>>15382871 +Sounds retarded. Just cut out the old rebar, add some new rebar and cast a new support around it. +--- 15382880 +>>15382847 +so? +>inb4 DOOOOOM +--- 15382881 +>>15382728 +Yes or the olm. Everything is a rapid prototype that can be garbage binned +--- 15382883 +>>15382881 +>muh rapid prototype +>3 years to build the next one +>Meanwhile SLS will fly again next year +--- 15382886 +it's weird thinking about rocket girls when most of them are thrown away into the ocean +--- 15382887 +>>15382883 +Starship will launch this year again. +--- 15382889 +>>15382881 +they need flight data. zero reason to not fly what they have now. +--- 15382891 +why not strap miniboosters to lift it up then engage the main booster and not worry about concrete flying. I'm a fucking genius boys +--- 15382893 +>>15382876 +note that the boomers at NASA are just as much leeches as those politicians +they're the reason why NASA is totally incapable of accomplishing anything anymore, anyone of value has to deal with a dozen "senior engineer" boomers standing around them holding clipboards and taking credit for anything they do +anyone worth calling an engineer has already fled for the private sector, all that's left are diversity hires and autists too brain damaged to understand the world around them +--- 15382894 +>>15382889 +Makes sense but that would bring us dangerously close to Elon correctly predicting when it will happen +--- 15382896 +>>15382877 +>They don't actually like the topic. +They do like the topic, thats why they're such a problem. The whole topic of space travel is extremely popular amongst the transhumanist trannys. People who are too self-centered to ever consider having children dream of immortality as a means of coping with the fact that they are genetic dead ends. Once they start fantasizing about immortality, they have to wonder what they're going to do with themselves forever. Traveling the universe in Star Trek fashion is the solution they tend to glom on to +--- 15382897 +>>15382887 +>Starship will launch this year again +--- 15382904 +>>15382891 +They chopsticks and tower should have been made 10 times stronger. Then the chopsticks attached to the booster should be connected to a 50k ton counterweight that falls from the tower and throws the full stack 150 meters into the air. +--- 15382906 +>>15382897 +Yes +--- 15382912 +>>15382893 +Sounds accurate +I still think that SpaceX's success is as much do to NASA being replaced as the promised land for aerospace talent as it is their own philosophy and excellence. The cream of NASA during the Apollo program would be working at SpaceX were they born 40 years later. Of course that's largely circular reasoning, but c'est la vie. +--- 15382913 +>>15382219 +They probably knew they had to redo it all except the tower and they wanted to do a launch for some data that would most likely fail, an acceptable risk. +--- 15382915 +>>15382912 +>The cream of NASA during the Apollo program would be working at SpaceX were they born 40 years later. Of course that's largely circular reasoning, but c'est la vie. +tips fedora +--- 15382916 +>>15382906 +>Yes +After magically manifesting another launchpad out of thin air I'm assuming? +--- 15382918 +>>15382916 +just head down to home depot and get some bags of concrete +--- 15382919 +>>15382915 +while he talks like a redditor and needs his nuts smacked for it, is he wrong? +--- 15382922 +>>15382913 +The thing is that "Acceptable risk" was clearly a pad failure. +--- 15382923 +>>15382916 +They will repair the launch pad. +--- 15382927 +>>15382883 +There is literally 2+ Starships ready to go and several more in various states of construction. +--- 15382928 +>>15382922 +Which is based. +They have taken a huge risk and it paid off big time. +--- 15382931 +>>15382916 + If by magically you mean repairing and improving the existing then yes +--- 15382933 +>>15382916 +The new deluge system is half-built and it doesn't take 8 months to tear up and repour concrete. +And it's not like the rest of spacex is going to be sitting with their thumbs up their asses while Jose works the shovel. +--- 15382939 +how many engines do they need to get it to get a good distance from the ground before firing up the rest? is that retarded? +--- 15382941 +>>15382933 +>And it's not like the rest of spacex is going to be sitting with their thumbs up their asses while Jose works the shovel. +bad faith redditors/twitterites always religiously ignore this fact every time +--- 15382944 +>>15382915 +I see you're intimidated by my intellect and resort to shameless ad hominems. Perhaps one day we shall meet in person and settle this with steel. +--- 15382948 +>>15381285 +How in the fuck is this supposed to carry people? +--- 15382950 +>>15382922 +vs total destruction of the launch facility if it imploded on the spot? Yes, the risk payed of very bigly with only a partially damage pad confirming you cant really skip on exhaust dampering methodology +--- 15382958 +>>15382922 +Yes, because they already knew it had to be replaced as I said. +--- 15382959 +>>15381285 +reminder that someone made this shit in gimp and now everybody is pretending like this is the officially confirmed plan +--- 15382965 +>>15382958 +it's not getting replaced though +--- 15382967 +oh no not the launch pad at the testing facility! it's clearly meant to last forever! +--- 15382973 +>>15382965 +Yes, the parts that are damaged will be replaced, install the new water cooled plate they have been working on, and then try again. +--- 15382975 +>>15382967 +>it's clearly meant to last forever! +It literally is if you aren't a little retard +--- 15382978 +Ok so when do the static fires start for the next SS and SH? +--- 15382979 +The blackpillers want you to think it takes a half a year to pour concrete into a hole in the ground. +--- 15382982 +>>15382975 +>NASA is allowed to do this +>SpaceX has to think about le beetles + +Fuck this shit man +--- 15382984 +>>15382975 +None of those launch sites exist today as they were in that photo. +--- 15382990 +>>15382944 +That's one big katana +>>15382613 +Two more weeks +--- 15382995 +spacex could be tearing the fuck out of concrete launch pads on the weekly switching to a new one as they please if not for the feds..... +--- 15383001 +>>15382513 +Texas Drift + +>>15382534 +Has ULA seriously not launched yet this year? + +>>15382995 +Based expendable launch pad enjoyer +--- 15383006 +Migrating from the other thread, OP is a faggot for early staging. Let it be known that I was a believer since the first look at Stage 0 that they had planned this all out and that they would probably use a steel plate after to launch again quickly, and I was right. Doomers absolutely BTFO +--- 15383009 +>>15383006 +B-but muh structural damage. +Not the FOUNDATIIIIIOOOOONS +--- 15383010 +>>15382492 +Vraag me maar, ik kom graag om een gat te graven en een polder te maken! +--- 15383014 +How is the Starship development timeline going compared to the Falcon development timeline? +--- 15383015 +>steel plated launchpads lmao +I need a Musk edit of this seeing as he's just offering rolls of stainless steel on every design decision since the carbon burster era +--- 15383018 +>>15383015 +Stainless steel is the material of the gods, its meant to be used everywhere +--- 15383020 +>>15382916 +The magic of reinforced concrete? +--- 15383021 +>>15383015 +And it's worked every single time. The entire modern world is built on stainless steel, why cant the rockets be aswell? +--- 15383022 +>>15382922 +Wait until you learn what was an "acceptable risk" during the cold war. +--- 15383023 +>>15383018 +I'm not complaining, I think it's hilarious it's the default solution they pivot to on any problem yet works every time. 50 years and nobody else even bothered kek +--- 15383024 +>>15382613 +WE ARE BACK +--- 15383025 +>>15383018 +>>15383021 +>>15383023 +Reddit. +--- 15383028 +>NoooooOOoOOo you can't blow up rockets, don't you know that if you lose a single rocket you should just quit and never be productive! +>NASA spends ten cuntillion man-hours on every nut and bolt so they only have to launch once! +Not only should a missile man blow up rockets in the process of testing, ideally he should come as close as possible to blowing himself up as well in the process. +--- 15383029 +>>15382990 +for you +--- 15383031 +>>15383025 +>>15383025 +Meaningful discussion +--- 15383033 +>>15383028 +Ummmmm, based department line 1 +--- 15383034 +>>15382835 +CUTE +--- 15383036 +So steel base plate to stop spalling and a deluge system to try and prevent shockwaves from reflecting back into the engine cluster. +--- 15383038 +>>15383014 +Right now? Faster. First launch, they already have another ready to go and will be relaunching within 1-2 months. +--- 15383039 +>>15383025 +The real problem with those posts is those comma splices; you retards really need to learn proper English. +--- 15383041 +>>15382533 +Shitliner has been shitcanned, permanently +--- 15383043 +>>15383036 +>filename +fuck off back to tumblr +--- 15383046 +>>15382613 +So this is the power of steel… +--- 15383048 +>>15383039 +Kek, you're seething +--- 15383055 +>>15383028 +Miss him lads, he would be laughing his fucking ass off at the absurdity of this entire program +--- 15383061 +>>15383043 +Nobody has used tumblr in like half a decade try hard newfag. He probably got the image of google images. +--- 15383063 +>>15383015 +Steel is based +--- 15383066 +>>15383028 +The whole "reusable worker" thing is really stupid if you think about. +--- 15383071 +>>15383061 +Classic same fagging +--- 15383074 +Enjoy +--- 15383075 +>>15383055 +is musk the modern von braun? +muskseethers are NOT allowed to reply to this post i DO NOT talk to trannies +--- 15383077 +>>15383028 +>>NASA spends ten cuntillion man-hours on every nut and bolt so they only have to launch once! +reminds me of picrel lmao +--- 15383079 +>>15382613 +Neat +--- 15383081 +>>15382213 +>doesn’t know how the human eye works +That must be either the worst bait you could come up with or a lobotomy won’t be necessary to know you already were lobotomized. +--- 15383089 +>>15383038 +>will be relaunching within 1-2 months +just like the OFT happened in 2022? +--- 15383092 +>>15383074 +Who put the retard narration on the screen? +--- 15383093 +>>15383074 +the engines are shit +20 years of developing for what +and then the 2nd stage engines can't ignite? +--- 15383095 +>>15383075 +Musk is 3x better at least (guess what metric im comparing between them) +--- 15383097 +>>15383074 +4MB filesize limit and VP9 supported, and you refused to use it? Why? +--- 15383098 +>>15383089 +before i tell you to go back: they had to build up an entire fucking launch site, research, develop and construct both a starship and a booster, and get FAA approval. all they have to do now is repour some concrete, assess the damage, and put in the steel plate. +now go back +--- 15383099 +>>15383089 +>hurr durr 1st launch = 2nd launch +they literally have two rockets and boosters lined up along with a solution having been made for stage 0 three months already, not the same story. you probably thought that the rocket wouldnt launch ever +--- 15383103 +>>15383098 +this, like i already said, the first launch is not equivalent to the second launch. +--- 15383105 +>>15383097 +i just didnt know ! +--- 15383109 +>>15383075 +Musk is the modern James Webb, maybe JFK. +Stop comparing a manager to an engineer you rats. +--- 15383112 +>>15383074 +5,000 tons and still flying with engine failures +--- 15383113 +>>15383075 +Von Braun became the target of public outcry and was forced away from his position because Americans are human garbage +Elon is an eye sore now too it seems +There are parallels between them but I think you will find those amongst many people who invest their lives into reaching space +--- 15383114 +>>15383093 +Booster 9 will prove you wrong. +--- 15383119 +>>15383107 +honestly the TWR doesn't even look that low +--- 15383120 +>>15383071 +Literally the first post I made in this newfag made thread. Literally says I'm the 91 posters in this thread right there. Or are you some phoneposting retard that can't use 4chanX? +--- 15383121 +>>15383093 +--- 15383124 +>>15383113 +nigga what are you talking about, he quit because of the lack of budget and the shittle +--- 15383125 +>>15383119 +They were at 90% throttle and 3 engines down at liftoff +--- 15383127 +This is unacceptable gentlemen . Are you telling me that we can't properly maintain 33 engines running ? + +I WANT THESE MOTHERFUCKING ENGINES RUNNING NON STOP UNTIL THEY REACH THE MOON , WITH TIME TO SPARE +--- 15383130 +>>15383093 +>20 years +--- 15383132 +>>15383113 +>Von Braun became the target of public outcry and was forced away from his position +What? He retired from NASA because the Apollo program got axed and then died of cancer a few years later. The public liked him as far as I'm aware. +--- 15383134 +>>15383113 +>>15383124 +>>15383132 +oh god please dont fucking tell me you think for all mankind is an accurate representation of history +--- 15383138 +>>15383015 +The Stainless Steel Muskrat +--- 15383139 +>>15383134 +Genuinely what the hell are you talking about? +--- 15383141 +>>15383139 +im referring to >>15383113 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tid-1FMFu6Q [Embed] +--- 15383143 +the new glenn is closer to completion than starship at this point +--- 15383147 +>>15383143 +Meds +--- 15383148 +>>15383143 +Dont make me laugh. They build the most expensive stage 1 ever. They need to land it otherwise the launch is cash negative. +--- 15383151 +>>15383141 +Oh. I actually never watched the show. This scene makes me glad of that fact because holy shit is it terrible. +--- 15383152 +>memethane rockets are 0 for 3 on successful launches +uh oh newspace sisters, i dont feel so good... +--- 15383153 +>>15383143 +So tell me, which has launched? Which has two extra stages lined up already? Which is going to be launching again in 1-2 months? +--- 15383156 +>>15383151 +to be fair the first half of season 1 isnt THAT bad. afterwards they no joke say the soviets only succeeded because they landed a woman on the moon, and the us had to get a woman on the moon as well or else they would lose the space race +--- 15383157 +>>15383152 +As expected of zubrin trannies. Take your faux intellectual and go +--- 15383161 +>>15383089 +>just like the OFT happened in 2022? + +Booster 4 failed the can crusher testing and they had to iterate the design. +--- 15383164 +So who’s ready to see the two-in-one liquid cooled flame diverter/steel plate? +--- 15383165 +>>15383161 +Booster 4 would have exploded on the pad +--- 15383167 +>>15383151 +have some MANime instead: +Royal Space Force +Space Brothers +Moonlight Mile + +UC Gundam and captain harlock are also good but thats more science fiction +--- 15383169 +>>15383167 +>Manime +Stay. +--- 15383172 +>>15383098 +The concrete and rebar structure were destroyed though it’s not only the hole below the rocket +--- 15383173 +>>15383164 +Why not use closed loop liquid methane for cooling beneath it? +--- 15383174 +>>15383172 +>pour concrete +>put rebar bars +>wait a weekend +wow... 6 months and a billion more dollars please +--- 15383176 +>>15383173 +or leftover nitrogen +--- 15383177 +>>15383167 +Season 1 is pretty bad . After that , if you forget about realism and just enjoy soft sci-fi it can be pretty cautivating +--- 15383179 +>>15383173 +gigabased +--- 15383189 +>>15381533 + +That's not how its going to be done. Someone is just over thinking this method. +--- 15383194 +>>15383074 +wtf why does it look like those flames are coming from between the engines? +--- 15383195 +>>15383173 +>flame diverter overheats and decides to become a rocket as well +--- 15383197 +>>15383194 +methalox in the day, the flames are very transparent, in the night time it is harder to see through. see proonted rogget +--- 15383199 +>>15381616 +why not just have some fly wheels +--- 15383213 +Posted on SpaceX twitter a few minutes ago but they deleted it almost immediately for some reason... +--- 15383217 +Previous thread since op is retarded + +>>15379966 → +>>15379966 → +>>15379966 → +--- 15383218 +>>15383217 +fuck off its page 10 +--- 15383236 +The side of the draw-works housing was turned into swiss cheese +--- 15383237 +>>15382835 +do you think u could post as png? or at least higher quality jpg. this is reall nice +--- 15383239 +hey good thing we set up our test site in boca chica and had to cram everything into a small plot of land that was zoned 60 years ago for a strip mall +--- 15383240 +>that perforation on the thing to the left +--- 15383248 +>>15382525 +The tech industry is full of fags and liberals, what did you expect? +--- 15383250 +>>15383107 +>debris flying everywhere +Starship is a fucking tank +--- 15383252 +>>15382525 +Musk man is an apostate now, so their owners have them foaming at the mouth in utter hatred now +--- 15383255 +>>15383152 +lol I live 4 blocks from that photo location +--- 15383256 +Liquid cooled steel plates for the next OLM +--- 15383257 +Fucking crazy how I grew up knowing about Saturn V and the enigmatic N1 (I was a space autist at a young age) +And now all of a sudden we’ve had SLS and Starship fly within the span of like 6 months. Crazy shit +--- 15383264 +>>15383257 +it does feel a bit like America is back to have two superheavy class rockets test launch that close together +--- 15383268 +https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1649506112012447744 +we are so back +--- 15383269 +>>15383268 +Could this actually work? +--- 15383270 +People forget this isn't the first time SpaceX has had to rebuild a pad. I do expect at least 6 months of delays +--- 15383272 +>>15383257 +For some reason, I feel Artemis 1 was longer ago than 6 months. +--- 15383274 +>>15383269 +probably but it would cost way more and take way longer than building a flame trench +--- 15383278 +>>15383270 +They already have 3 months done with the steel plate, that means 3 months easy, if not sooner now that they have experience +--- 15383279 +>>15383274 +>building a flame trench +it's not happening faggot. let it go +--- 15383281 +>>15382525 +HN comments are a hellhole. Peak bugman midwits. +--- 15383282 +>>15383272 +That’s because it’s such a forgettable mission and rocket +--- 15383283 +what are the other funny dates besides 4/20 and 6/9? +--- 15383285 +>>15383279 +This, massive deluge system and water/LN2 cooled steel plate is probably enough. +--- 15383286 +>>15383213 +Looks like Elon wanted to upload it instead, but in slow motion. Trying to grab the original so I can render in high quality unlike you. +--- 15383287 +>>15383283 +9/11 +>inb4 muh jet fuel +Methalox doesn’t burn as hot, steel plate chads win every time +--- 15383289 +>>15383268 +not tall enough +--- 15383292 +>>15383246 +honestly incredible it worked. was this the greatest feat of engineering ever done? +--- 15383293 +>>15383292 +LHC is pretty impressive. +--- 15383294 +>>15383285 +Elon mentioned a water table and metal cover. Doesn't sound like the 2M liters of NASA pads. +--- 15383297 +>>15383294 +Look at the size of the pipes. They're very large +--- 15383304 +Remember everyone, three engines out at launch probably means it blasted way more concrete than it was supposed to. Once the water/LN2 cooled steel plate-flame diverter amalgam part is installed along with a massive deluge system, we are absolutely set to withstand Starship blasts. The plate is already 3 months in the making and flame diverter side we saw parts shipped there about 2 weeks ago, could also have started being made about then. They also have experience in rebuilding pads, all the engines are massively improved on B9/S26 compared to the old R2s used in B7/S24. This and the stages themselves also have like a hundred improvements, and they have launch data to fix what is needed. The only thing I would be any bit doomer about next launch is anything past MECO, even then we have B10/S27 basically ready to go, which will have even more improvements than the last and more data to work with. Doomers are retarded and have already been BTFO, liquidcooledsteelplatechads we can do it again. Alright, hopium dose has been handed out, make sure to ration it just 3 months tops. +--- 15383306 +>>15383286 +Bah it's simply fucking gone. I have the video playing on my page but nothing can detect it for download, and it will vanish if I refresh. +--- 15383309 +>>15382982 +>>NASA is allowed to do this +I hate retarded tourists like you it's unreal how retarded you are +--- 15383310 +>>15383306 +download obs and record it +--- 15383311 +>>15383306 +just speed this one up lol. it's the same video +--- 15383312 +Where are the wreckage photos? Still barely anything. It's been almost 48 hours +--- 15383315 +>>15383304 +I'm just worried that Musk looked so pissed when it blew up +--- 15383316 +>>15383312 +Road is closed +--- 15383319 +>>15383097 +>it stayed completely straight all the way through until FTS +wtf so this has proven beyond reasonable doubt that it's insanely strong +--- 15383320 +>>15381207 (OP) +just cast a single piece titanium plate to cover it. done +--- 15383321 +>>15383294 +2 megalitres is only 20,000 cube metres, that's not that much +--- 15383323 +>>15383316 +Nobody has taken a boat along the shore to survey the damage from there? +--- 15383325 +>>15383319 +I mean it looks like the booster failed at the bottom. The FTS is at the common dome isn't it? +--- 15383327 +>>15383325 +No the FTS is at the bottom for the booster +--- 15383330 +>>15383321 +Starship's payload capacity is a cubic kilometer. +--- 15383331 +>>15383289 +May as well just build a space elevator. We can go higher. +--- 15383336 +>>15383316 +due to aids? + +>>15383315 +he hadn't slept for like 50 hours +--- 15383349 +>>15381285 +Someone needs to tell them about ullage motors. +--- 15383351 +>>15383336 +I wouldn’t have slept for 50 hours either if I was the one literally spearheading humanity’s entire future +--- 15383354 +>>15383349 +Stage separation doomers get the airlock just like CSI Starbase cock gobbling 9-months-to-next-launch doomers got. +--- 15383355 +>>15383213 +>>15383306 +this from the IMAX? + +...did it survive? +--- 15383356 +>thing happens +>tourists flood your niche interest with the most retarded posts imaginable +>normies make retarded posts about shit they have absolutely no fucking business talking about +past few days have really blackpilled me on the average intelligence of the world +--- 15383357 +>>15381855 +So with the engines off and in a near vacuum is the RC system meant to spin all that mass? +They need the engines to make the spin possible. +--- 15383360 +>>15383356 +the average iq is 100. terrifying isn't it? blew my mind when I learned that fact. +--- 15383361 +>>15383357 +Reading comprehension. +They spin using the engines +>The engine shuts off at step 3 +--- 15383364 +>>15383360 +starship could land on mars with people and the average normalfag would still think "But uhm..... what about the LAWN CHAIR that was KNOCKED DOWN by SHOCKWAVES.... such a FAILURE..." +--- 15383365 +any other rocket girls which need to be drawn? +--- 15383367 +reminder that this is how starship stages +--- 15383368 +>>15383367 +it'd be based if the next three launches won't fail at this exact stage. Built in filter for people who aren't balls deep serious about extraterrestrial colonization? Sign me up! +--- 15383369 +>>15383367 +More plausible. +But there might not even be a spin reversal. +Just let it go as soon as you kick the booster upwards. +--- 15383370 +>>15383367 +just post the reddit/twitter post you took this from so we can tell you to go back +--- 15383372 +>>15383365 +Make the Indian poojeet rocket +--- 15383373 +>>15383370 +nsf actually +kys newfag +--- 15383374 +>>15383361 +Got it, yes that was a reading comprehension fail on my part. +--- 15383380 +So uhhh, maybe we can do Sea Dragon on land now yes? +--- 15383381 +>>15383367 +From my experience trying it in ksp it is enough to pitch up hard, immediately shut down and then stage. +Works great even without a computer orchestrating it. +--- 15383382 +>>15383381 +>it works in ksp +--- 15383386 +>>15383381 +Staging in KSP generates an ejection force that doesn't magically happen in reality. +--- 15383388 +>>15383385 +what the fuck is a "liftport" +--- 15383391 +>>15383387 +gem +--- 15383392 +>>15383246 +benis +--- 15383397 +>>15383257 +And what's crazier is that Starship could launch again in the same year. +--- 15383398 +>>15383391 +Made by sbarky +--- 15383399 +>>15383397 +yeaahhh, emphasis on could, pure hopium +--- 15383400 +>>15383387 +For every jak I see on /sfg/ I vow to post another horsecock on the sharty. +--- 15383402 +>>15383386 +No, you can turn that to 0 +--- 15383404 +>>15383400 +>For every jak I see on /sfg/ I vow to post another horsecock on the sharty. +--- 15383406 +>>15381207 (OP) +it's /sfg/, anon, not /SFG/ +--- 15383407 +>>15382676 +--- 15383413 +>>15381285 +That is incredibly stupid, and you should feel bad for coming up with this. +--- 15383414 +yeah it's a stupid plan on earth, but would it be viable for returning stuff from the moon? you wouldn't need shielding because you don't need to pull a vacuum, and the speed you need to achieve to get escape velocity is much lower. could it be useful for returning regolith and science experiments from the moon? +--- 15383415 +>>15383414 +No, anything spin will fail. Don’t make me laugh +--- 15383416 +>>15383356 +>past few days have really blackpilled me on the average intelligence of the world +And you haven't read about the shitflinging over Apollo during its day? I'll give you a hint, the whole project barely had a 50% public approval rating at best. +--- 15383417 +I want to make an image like this but with all active US rockets, from small lift to starship + +How can I do that, scaling everything, finding the images from them right angle and shit, or does anyone here have the skills to do that? +--- 15383419 +>>15383417 +nigger. take a 5th grade math class maybe +--- 15383425 +>>15383414 +Cool, but how do you get the whole thing there? +>inb4 lunar industry +lmao +--- 15383427 +>>15383414 +IMO a maglev is the way to go for getting stuff to earth from the lunar surface. +>get return window every 27 days +>only needs electricity as propellant +>can limit Gs for human / fragile payloads +>only needs to be ~2km long for gentle launches +--- 15383434 +>>15383425 +as long as the heaviest single part is less than ~200 tons you can bring it there on a starship. as I said you don't need much if any of the shielding, so then the question becomes can starship bring the arm there +--- 15383441 +You now remember DECA +--- 15383450 +>>15383414 +Why do you concern yourself with impractical things far in the future? +--- 15383452 +>>15383414 +>2300 +>humanity has colonized every single moon and planet in the solar system +>the human population nears 500 billion +>colony ships are being sent to nearby star systems +>in New Mexico, spinlaunch is still trying to fling shitty rockets into the air +>no one knows how they are able to fund this +--- 15383454 +>>15383427 +--- 15383467 +>>15383454 +very good image to shut down memetech spergs +--- 15383468 +I wonder if Neutron will go the path Terran R is going and will turn into a Falcon 9 clone. +--- 15383470 +>>15383468 +convergent evolution +--- 15383471 +>>15383467 +you know landing rockets in a barge used to be memetech right? +--- 15383472 +>>15383468 +everything everywhere all at once is turning in to a falcon 9 clone +--- 15383473 +>>15383470 +falconization even +--- 15383475 +This wouldn't be a problem with the tethered ring space launcher btw +--- 15383476 +>>15383471 +memetech speculators sorry +--- 15383480 +>>15383454 +>no contact between moving parts so dust doesn't matter +Why is this a bad idea? +--- 15383481 +Clear a cute. +--- 15383487 +>>15383481 +Very. +--- 15383489 +>>15382818 +>what’s this cope that this is an acceptable oopsie? +They planned for pad destruction including the tower as the worst scenario +--- 15383491 +>>15382613 +Water-cooled steel anons... We are vindicated. +--- 15383492 +Imagine being the engineer who told Elon that the pad would survive a launch based on static fire data +--- 15383493 +>>15383414 +a straight rail would be enough and easier to execute on the moon i think +this might come in handy if space is limited for some reason +--- 15383494 +>>15383480 +Maglev has never been demonstrated. +--- 15383495 +>>15383481 +loved that moment, she had this chibi bouncing on everyone head + +>>15383487 +this thing is the best thing shes added to her streams +--- 15383496 +>>15383494 +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-S7wqwgF1Q [Embed] +--- 15383498 +>>15382613 +can someone fill me in on why steel is going to not be destroyed by the force of 33 raptors and ripped apart on sheer force. Yeah it may cool the gas down, but not quickly enough right? or is the plan that it will be burnt through last 5-10 flights and replaced? Somehow steel shrapnel seems like not an improvement regardless of how thick the gauge of the steel +--- 15383499 +>>15383494 +lmao can you retards leave already +--- 15383500 +>>15383492 +if he has hard data to cover his ass, he'll be fine +the decision had to be cleared by Musk himself, so he knows he's partly to blame for it +--- 15383502 +>>15383492 +>Imagine being the yes man who said yes so great leader is pleased +--- 15383503 +>>15383494 +It literally has retard fuck off +--- 15383505 +>>15383498 +9/11 was an inside job +--- 15383508 +>>15383492 +They didn't wait long enough for it to cure right what can you do lol +--- 15383509 +>>15383498 +Thick steel can take battleship rounds, it can take a big flamethrower, if it spalls which it won't, the spallation will be on the underside of the plate. +--- 15383510 +>>15383498 +yeah but the plan is to dump tons of water a second on it +--- 15383511 +>>15383164 +with vapor chambers and fuckhuge copper tubes +--- 15383514 +>>15383195 +Point the exhaust ducts directly at the beetles. +--- 15383515 +>>15383514 +point them directly at the environmentalists +--- 15383517 +>>15383514 +--- 15383521 +>>15383510 +Is it not internal cycled? +>>15383509 +Yes thick steel can take heavy punishment and might but wouldn't it sheer and ablate. it's way better then kicking up dust for sure. But why doesn't it get ripped apart and send steel shrapnel around the place? still doesn't seem all that effective. I am just thinking about the excavating force, on the fondag gay concrete. Obviously not as structurally strong then thick steel. But could it not pull up whole chunks? +--- 15383523 +>>15383521 +Steel is not brittle. It doesn't crumble apart. You just secure it very well +--- 15383524 +>>15383515 +this is the dune future we want, blood sacrifices to honour each starship launch with unbelievers +--- 15383525 +>>15383481 +>>15383487 +ria luv +--- 15383526 +>>15383521 +>gay concrete +So this was the problem. +--- 15383527 +>>15383517 +--- 15383528 +>>15383521 +Who cares? The rockets will be launched +--- 15383531 +>>15383494 +>>15383496 +japan's maglev track is even bigger and better than shanghai and they're gonna integrate it to connect from tokyo to nagoya within this decade (yeah i watched that tom scott video) +--- 15383532 +>>15383523 +I don't understand steel material properties well enough. In my mind any large enough force heavily grinds at it. Similar to some kind of sander until it starts to lift up chunks where there any structural weaknesses then tears off larger and larger pieces. +--- 15383533 +>>15383521 +he said steel, not cast iron +--- 15383536 +>>15383532 +No. That is not how steel behaves under stress +--- 15383539 +>>15383417 +I’m not trying to be mean but +a) profile views of pretty much every rocket ever made are easily accessible, and even if they’re low quality you can always trace them +b) scaling is SUPER easy +I’ll make the damn graphic for you complete with custom rockets if you give me a list +--- 15383540 +>>15383494 +Maglev isn't really economically viable as a low cost mass transit solution, this isn't the same as not working. +--- 15383541 +>>15383539 +It doesn't even need a perfect angle. Just google the height of the rocket and then use that for scaling. +--- 15383543 +The Mars Aptitude Test just needs to be a simple dimensional analysis problem, a simple pythagorean theorem problem, and “draw a 3D cube” +Would filter out hundreds of thousands of retards +--- 15383548 +>>15383543 +>dimensional analysis problem +what is this? +--- 15383549 +>>15383514 +i have a better idea +--- 15383550 +>>15383543 +that's racist +--- 15383551 +>>15383543 +>draw a 3D cube +any specific projection in mind? +--- 15383554 +>>15383548 +You must be 18 or older to use this website. +--- 15383555 +>>15383470 +Starship will become a Falcon 9 clone +--- 15383556 +>>15383548 +To Venus you go +--- 15383557 +>>15383549 +Why not just make a spiral underground ever expanding ever going +--- 15383558 +>>15383551 +orthographic face on. they want you to draw a square +--- 15383562 +>>15383543 +I’m a graphic design fag and I use dimensional analysis more than I care to admit lol +>>15383548 +It’s just a nifty way of setting things up so that units visibly cancel out. You’ve probably used it a ton in your life whether you realized it or not, you just didn’t know it had a name. It’s useful in science when you have like a million units to convert back and forth +--- 15383563 +>>15383551 +It needs to be a word problem involving 3D shape rotation, like "draw the outline of a pyramid as seen from above with a corner at the top". +--- 15383567 +>>15383549 +Kind of a reverse of this. +--- 15383574 +What are the Chinese saying about Starship and Space? +--- 15383578 +25 years, I’m not the worst at math, passed Calc II for Christ’s sake… +Last month my dad explained all you have to do is move the decimal on your bill over once and that’s 10%. Then multiply it by two and boom that’s your 20% tip. I have been using my phone to calculate this my entire adult life. Am I a retard? +--- 15383581 +>>15383574 +most netizens want it to succeed because space is cool +--- 15383583 +>>15383578 +dont worry about it anon. im in my 3rd year of aerospace engineering at college and i still dont have my times tables memorized, and im generally retarded at arithmetic +i blame this on being half asleep during math over all of elementary school +--- 15383584 +>>15383578 +Kek +--- 15383586 +>>15383578 +nah you're good. I always guestimate 10% then give $1 less than that +--- 15383587 +>>15383578 +>all you have to do is move the decimal on your bill over once and that’s 10% +wtf +--- 15383588 +>OH N- +--- 15383590 +>>15383578 +I'm a highschool dropout and could've told you that. +It's okay, though. At least you did something with your life. +--- 15383596 +>>15383578 +It’s pretty obvious but I guess if no one ever told you it could be missed. Idk. My girlfriend taught me the ‘multiples of 9 with the fingers’ trick and my mind was melted +--- 15383598 +>>15383554 +>>15383556 +>>15383562 +I checked it and it's just converting and canceling units? Fucking fancy name lmao +--- 15383600 +SAD! Elon Musk and SpaceX go agianst GOD! He destroys rocket! +--- 15383603 +So hypothetically, let’s say we test-fire a SuperHeavy on the moon. Full-duration burn kind of thing. We clamp it down and let it burn for at least 10 seconds at max throttle. Surely some rocks would be sent to orbit right? +--- 15383604 +>>15383600 +>senditagain.monkeputin +--- 15383605 +>>15383603 +probably not. +--- 15383608 +>>15383603 +They'd probably just end up on the other side of the moon. +--- 15383610 +>>15383604 +Send in the next wave of beetle conscripts to Bakhmut Chica. +--- 15383611 +>>15383600 +Is he just going to ignore all the other rockets SpaceX launches, lmao +--- 15383613 +>>15383578 +>all you have to do is move the decimal on your bill over once and that’s 10% +i cant believe i never thought of this. i just calculated it in my head real quick. +--- 15383616 +>>15383613 +you had never noticed how multiplying by powers of 10 only changes the place of the dot? +--- 15383617 +>>15383578 +>>15383587 +>>15383613 +the absolute state +--- 15383618 +>>15383616 +no i dont use pleb math +--- 15383620 +>>15383578 +It's a generational thing, besides engaging in the barbaric act of tipping, the average person has few reasons to do any type of math so they never picked up tricks like that. The next generation will be so much more fucked up as AI chatbots becomes the mechanical calculator of knowledge and creativity +--- 15383622 +>>15383617 +its one of those things you never think about until its put in front of you +--- 15383624 +>>15383620 +man this is already happening to me +i just hit up gpt4 whenever i have a question now +--- 15383634 +>>15383624 +you guys are seriously using a chatbot for answers? +At most I'd use it to write assignments for humanities subjects since it's all word soup anyway, but unfortunately I already went through most of them in college. +--- 15383635 +Bros… will we ever see its? +--- 15383638 +>>15383635 +which moon is this supposed to be? +--- 15383640 +>>15383635 +See its what?? +--- 15383641 +>>15383634 +it works well, give it a try sometime if you can get access to gpt4 +i wish i had access to the plugins so it could access wolfram too +--- 15383642 +>>15383635 +Maybe Rocket Lab will do a superheavy fully reusable carbon fiber rocket one day. +--- 15383643 +>>15383642 +What lmao no +--- 15383644 +>>15383642 +>they still haven't reflown an electron +yeah no composites are doomed +--- 15383645 +>>15383643 +well, probably not for the second stage, but for the first stage its certainly possible. +--- 15383646 +>>15383642 +>reusable +>carbon fiber +>rocket +--- 15383647 +>>15383645 +I just meant I don’t envision rocket lab ever making a super heavy lift rocket +--- 15383649 +>>15383634 +it got a B in scott aaronson's quantum information science final exam. Not saying it's doing anything more than pattern-matching on its training corpus but it can do some cool stem stuff. +--- 15383652 +>>15383481 +>>15383487 +>>15383495 +>>15383525 +Her closing song here. +>>>/wsg/5060356 +--- 15383655 +>>15383649 +>scott aaronson's quantum information science final exam +OH MY FAUCI +--- 15383657 +>>15383652 +Cute! +--- 15383658 +Elon said 1-2 months and >>15383304 summarized the situation well, but do you believe in his estimate? +--- 15383660 +>>15383652 +My waifu can't be this talented and genki! +--- 15383661 +>>15383658 +not a chance in hell +he's a serial optimist +there WILL be fuck fuck games and it WILL push it back 3-4 months +we'll definitely get a second launch this year though, potentially two +--- 15383665 +>>15383658 +Fuck. No. It will be another 2 years. Yes this is my serious estimate. +--- 15383666 +>>15383658 +My most optimistic bet is that there will be another launch this year, then the third one in Q1/2 2024 +--- 15383669 +>>15383655 +i'm unvaxed and personally can't stand aaronson anon +--- 15383670 +>>15383622 +No it's not, it's literally the foundation of our counting system +--- 15383672 +>>15383647 +I think they will eventually, although its definitely not guaranteed. Certainly they are probably closer to eventually developing a reusable superheavy lift rocket than Relativity or Blue Origin. +--- 15383673 +>>15383622 +>he has never divided something by ten +--- 15383676 +>>15383658 +No, it'll be more like 4-7 months. If its around or less than 5 months, maybe a third launch could occur in 2023. +--- 15383678 +>>15383670 +>>15383673 +that's exactly why you don't think of it, Anon +you learned this shit in early childhood, so the concept is just subconscious at this point +you don't think of dividing shit by 10, you just do +--- 15383680 +>>15383661 +>>15383666 +I think these two are good short analysis +>>15383665 +This guy is a two weeks fag who thought Starship wouldn’t ever launch only to get BTFO yesterday +--- 15383682 +>>15383680 +I hope that fag didn't unironically think ol' Musky would miss launching on 4/20 +--- 15383683 +>>15383658 +Yes 1 month. Then another launch. Then the remaining 3 launches every succeeding month. +Moon landing Q1 2024 +--- 15383684 +>>15383652 +すっぴ +--- 15383686 +>>15383683 +I love your energy +--- 15383687 +>>15383683 +landing is for fags +just send a sacrificial starship at the moon full speed +--- 15383690 +>>15383672 +Blue Origin is closer to that as they have access to BezoBucks. +No matter how shit they are, they will succeed through financial brute forcing. +--- 15383692 +>>15383690 +I guess if you consider New Jarvis a superheavy lift system, but I was under the impression it was considered heavy lift, not superheavy. +--- 15383694 +>>15383652 +someone run it through whisper to translate it thx +--- 15383696 +>>15383692 +New Glenn is heavy lift. Add a reusable second stage and its even less payload. +--- 15383697 +>>15383692 +Jarvis is not a heavy lift system, and if anything it will just mog the overall performance of a base New Glenn. Unless they give it a third stage, but even then I wouldn’t put it in SHLV category +--- 15383698 +>>15383697 +>>15383696 +That being said, I wonder how Blue Origin/Jeff Bezos are internally reacting to the Starship OFT +--- 15383700 +>>15383697 +>it will just mog the overall performance of a base New Glenn +Why would it? Reusable means less deltav +--- 15383701 +>>15383697 +What the fuck is meant by “third stage” for NG anyways? Would it be between the first and second stage and act sort of like EUS? Or do they just mean a dinky little kick stage or something that goes on top of the stack +--- 15383704 +>>15383694 +it's a song you can just look up the lyrics +--- 15383710 +>>15383692 +Even if New Glenn isn't, they still have the money to throw at another rocket. +I really like RL but I fear they might not survive if Starship gets too successful. I wonder if they could make Neutron bigger so it can at least match F9. +--- 15383711 +So 1-2 months for next launch. Doomerbros btfo again? +--- 15383714 +>>15383711 +Even Zack Golden seemed to possibly be changing his mind based off what Eric Berger and Elon said. Personally I trust Berger's timeline, the Elon comment is obviously Elon Time. +--- 15383717 +What the fuck is a New Jarvis? Did BO drop another paper rocket? +--- 15383718 +>>15382680 +Yeah about right. Multiply it by 3.14. +--- 15383720 +>>15383652 +kino +--- 15383721 +>>15383658 +I'd say 3-4 months +--- 15383723 +>>15383717 +New Glenn with a Starship knockoff upper stage. +--- 15383724 +>>15383717 +Refers to version of New Glenn with experimental stainless steel reusable upper stage design. BO has been doing some form of tests on stainless steel tank prototypes quite similar to that of SN1 and SN3 in appearance. +--- 15383728 +>>15383724 +That's not stainless steel +--- 15383741 +>>15383578 +>20% tip +yes you are retarded +--- 15383745 +>>15383578 +I usually divide by 5 twice, double it, then add half again. +--- 15383751 +oh no no! +m-muskbros... how do we recover!? +--- 15383755 +What’s north koreas new rocket? +--- 15383757 +>>15383755 +Starship +--- 15383759 +>>15383751 +This line is always projection, they seethe about the 150m tall flamethrower cock because theirs are tiny. +--- 15383761 +>>15383557 +SPIRAL OUT +KEEP GOING +--- 15383766 +>>15383755 +Idk but I hope we’re in the timeline where Kim’s daughter is autistic and obsessed with space +--- 15383777 +>>15382613 +n i c e +spacex welders to the rescue again +--- 15383778 +Doomers have been BTFO +--- 15383786 +Leaked image from a starship hull cam +--- 15383789 +>>15383714 +Who +Cares +--- 15383790 +>>15383786 +The interstage and gridfins are still latched on at the correct angle even as the first stage tank body is visibly wrenched over, kek. +--- 15383796 +>>15383790 +You can clearly see the interstage is translated a few feet up +--- 15383797 +>>15383790 +This is after FTS activation +--- 15383799 +>>15383790 +ships so stronk the first production versions will still be hauling cargo in 50 years. +--- 15383800 +>>15383714 +--- 15383803 +>>15383751 +Colbert hasn't been relevant since the Bush Administration. Give it a rest. +--- 15383824 +>check flickr to see if any non-NSF affiliated photographers had photos of starship +>one guy uploaded like 4 images and the rest were people uploading screenshots of the spacex stream or thumbnails of NSF photos +--- 15383832 +Giant SRB explosions are way more kino than l*quid rockets +--- 15383834 +>>15383832 +Imagine if Tim Dodd was showered in flaming aluminum dust instead of some concrete dust +--- 15383837 +>>15383827 +Disgusting fuel rich whore +--- 15383840 +Lightning in the dust cloud +--- 15383843 +>>15383840 +Nice +--- 15383845 +I never saw this wider cut of this image I've seen a few times +--- 15383846 +>>15383845 +--- 15383858 +>>15383837 +this is the most horrifying pepe i've seen in a while +--- 15383870 +>>15383724 +it's just a water tower +--- 15383871 +>>15383840 +Oh shit yeah + +Same forces that make lightning in volcanic eruptions +--- 15383875 +>>15383289 +how much does this save on dV? +--- 15383876 +>>15383840 +>Lightning in the dust cloud +Was this captured in the environmental review??? Utterly irresponsible behaviour by Elon. +Stealing a mote of Zeus's power is a crime punishable by the eternal torment of being chained to a rock and having your liver feasted upon daily by an eagle. +--- 15383879 +>>15382613 +>we thought it would make it through 1 launch +--- 15383881 +If I brought a doppler radar like a national weather service NEXRAD to Mars or Venus would it tell us anything interesting about the climate +--- 15383882 +>>15383414 +why not just make a linear rail on the moon? this thing is retarded +this thing is compact due to the difficulty of creating a vacuum on earth, but the fact that there is an atmosphere makes it retarded +--- 15383883 +>>15383555 +Even if they never get second stage reuse to be economical due to heatshield issues, expendable upper stage with deployable fairing would hit nearly 300t LEO for the cost of fairings (recoverable), tanks, and 4 RVacs. Still looking at tons of payload per million in flight costs. +--- 15383885 +>>15383417 +another one with all active rockets that have the info about them would be nice, with payloads to different orbits beneath the rocket +--- 15383886 +>>15381602 +>I turned 50 years old yesterday. +Wtf his birthday is also 4/20? +--- 15383888 +We are now in a timeline where a quantized inertia thruster could apply delta-V to a spacecraft in orbit before a RapVac does. Welcome to the future, let's get retarded. +--- 15383891 +>>15383888 +>C +--- 15383892 +>>15383891 +hecked +--- 15383894 +>>15383498 +The pad was destroyed by uplift forces from exhaust gas getting under the concrete slabs. Once a crack developed, the whole pad just unzipped from bottom up. Theoretically, water-cooled steel would erode at a steadier rate instead of catastrophically failing, assuming SpX anchors it properly. +--- 15383895 +>>15382856 +Depressing levels of unhinged copium. +>just risk your next rocket and all of its valuable test data because you were lazy haha +We were lucky that it didn't explode on the pad with that debris. They can fix this issue, fuck off +--- 15383899 +>>15383875 +Basically nothing, like a few m/s or less +--- 15383905 +>>15383107 +>That piece of concrete getting as high as the chopsticks +fukken hell. +--- 15383911 +Amusing to read the lyin' NY Times hitpiece. I encourage those in control of their emotions to read lol +https://web.archive.org/web/20230421143116/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/us/spacex-rocket-dust-texas.html +--- 15383921 +>>15383289 +we thought of it ages ago +--- 15383923 +>>15383921 +starship is taller than i thought +--- 15383928 +>>15383923 +longmarchtomars.jpg +--- 15383929 +>>15383911 +Ms Almaguer seems to be a lawyer and some enviromentalist/grifter +--- 15383930 +>>15383278 +Stop. It's not happening. I say this as a massive Elon cum guzzler +--- 15383933 +>>15383929 +tim annoys me too tbqh +--- 15383935 +>>15383911 +ESGfag at it again +--- 15383936 +>>15383373 +Go back to L2 faggot +--- 15383938 +>>15383929 +Who's the chick w/ estronaut? +--- 15383941 +>>15381285 +I raise +--- 15383947 +>>15383938 +testronaut (female) +--- 15383949 +>>15383652 +she's so woderful ajd cute and petfext in every wayyyy i love her so much aaaaaaaaaa +--- 15383952 +>>15383724 +>has been doing +No. they did a test or two like two years ago then gave up and fucked off. that picture is ancient +--- 15383953 +>>15383941 +The 3rd one is a solid option. +--- 15383954 +>>15383751 +you just posted cringe +--- 15383956 +>>15383414 +I don't understand what their exit plan is. who is funding this and what do they expect to get out of it? surely everyone can see the idea isn't practical? +--- 15383958 +>>15383876 +I appreciate you, Anon. +--- 15383960 +>>15383517 +>ablative +in a sense, concrete is ablative. +--- 15383961 +>>15383956 +It's probably DARPA shenanigans. Spinlaunch shares many design problems in common with hypersonic guided missiles. +--- 15383962 +>>15383846 +>>15383845 +me after eating mexican food. +--- 15383964 +>>15383935 +Who is this guy connected to, I gotta wonder. +--- 15383968 +>>15383964 +I cant imagine dedicating my life to constant seething about anything. these people are as unhinged as youre average /pol/ schizo. do they have families? a job? a purpose? +--- 15383976 +>"SpaceX should have built a diverter!" +>pictures of parts for a diverter suddenly emerge +>"We are building a giant water cooled steel plate, confirming various schizo theories." +>pictures of the plate in parts suddenly emerge + +Curious. Curious. +--- 15383979 +>>15383976 +>newfag +--- 15383985 +>>15383840 +Dear God how powerful is this thing? +I haven't truly realized +--- 15383990 +Ladies and sirs. 30 minutes to go. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeF7OpbOwjQ [Embed] +--- 15383995 +>>15383990 +where is the countdown? +--- 15384006 +>>15383976 +>schizo theories + +We are always right, cope. +--- 15384011 +>>15383990 +I love the Indian space program. They're so genuine and just want to go to space. None of this BLM or women shit +--- 15384020 +>>15383990 +why don't they have this on the screen as an overlay lmao +just raw camerafeeds +--- 15384024 +>>15383990 +liftoff +BO mogged once again +--- 15384026 +>>15384020 +>just raw camera feeds + +It's comfy and soulful, also best software devs this side of Mumbai +--- 15384031 +>>15384011 +Look at the control room jeets, they are always so happy to watch things go up. Like a brown, street shitting Apollo. +--- 15384035 +>>15381285 +That's gonna be the next thing they'll change because it doesn't work properly or wastes delta-v. +--- 15384037 +Why does rocket chan have a moustache now? Was she a man all along? +--- 15384039 +>>15384024 +another day of total british shame +--- 15384042 +>>15384036 +that cheeky bitch ahahaha +--- 15384043 +>>15384033 +same system that controls starliner +--- 15384044 +presenter +--- 15384045 +https://twitter.com/yosoybimbo/status/1649176934482432004 + +based juan +--- 15384046 +why clear has mustache lolol +--- 15384047 +>>15381285 +Is this really saving the weight to justify nixing the shit for a normal separation mechanism? That's burning a lot of fuel. +--- 15384048 +>>15384036 +--- 15384049 +>>15384043 +kek +this one seems to work though +--- 15384051 +>>15384026 +Chad Win32 UI vs. SpaceX virgin webui. +--- 15384052 +>>15384037 +>>15384046 +She is racist (this is normal in japan) +--- 15384054 +>>15384052 +so based +--- 15384055 +>>15384049 +what are the security implications of running your space program on windows xp? +--- 15384056 +>>15384036 +i love ria +--- 15384057 +>>15384055 +As opposed to running it on windows 11? KEK +--- 15384058 +>>15384048 +--- 15384059 +>>15384057 +true. should have taken a decade longer and installed gentoo. +--- 15384060 +Gonna take this opportunity to ask if any sirs in here has seen Rocket Boys? I found it while looking up October Sky. +--- 15384061 +>15384037 +--- 15384062 +Good morning sirs. I missed the launch. +--- 15384063 +poo rocketry +--- 15384064 +>>15384060 +>another fucking jeet movie +Do you know how bad these Bollywood films are? Like holy shit +--- 15384066 +>poos does it better than starliner +--- 15384068 +he did the needful? +--- 15384069 +>>15384011 +>None of this BLM or women shit +Anon.. we invented that shit +--- 15384070 +>>15384063 +Stinky smelly amerimutt dog. Back to shartmart +--- 15384071 +>>15384062 +good morning! +--- 15384072 +>>15384052 +Joke is on (her). Their geriatric society doesn't have a very bright future. +--- 15384074 +Hydrazine you dumb slut +--- 15384075 +>>15384072 +her pussy has enough youth for me +--- 15384076 +>>15384072 +Cope, less people is not a bad thing compared to having your society flooded and filled with low IQ race mixed mutts +--- 15384077 +>>15384068 +first, second and third stage have separated +4th stage just started, satsep coming soon, I guess its going to be a LEO satellite + +kind of funny to have 4 stages for a LEO sat + +> TeLEOS-2 is a Singaporean Earth Observation satellite built by ST Electronics (Satellite Systems). It carries a made-in-Singapore Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) capable of providing 1 m resolution data. It will be equipped with a 500 GB onboard recorder for recording the data captured and a high speed 800 Mbps downlink. +--- 15384078 +>>15384039 +pls no bully +--- 15384079 +>>15384037 +>>15384046 +veechuubers wearing a mustache is very common. I have no idea why. +--- 15384080 +Clear can decipher the indian accent better than me. +--- 15384084 +>>15384077 +>four fucking stages +What is this 1967? +--- 15384085 +>>15384072 +Wrong, I will singlehandedly repopulate Nippon with my autistic rocket wife. +--- 15384086 +>>15384077 +>Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) +Glowop +--- 15384087 +>>15384080 +you need to be esl to understand fellow esl + +>>15384079 +well its definitely because of the mustache dudes +--- 15384088 +>>15384078 +ello, gov'nor :) +--- 15384089 +>>15384060 +>>15384064 +Should have probably added: Reading the synopsis its a show about the birth of the Indian space program and centres around their von Braun equivalent. I haven't seen it, but I'm guessing its like that BBC mini series. +--- 15384090 +PLEASE BE QUIET YOU FUCKING BASTERD +I AM DOING THE NEEDFUL +--- 15384091 +SEPARRRRRRRATED! sirs!!!!! + +oRRRbital injection +--- 15384092 +>>15384084 +1967 was a hell of a lot better than the years 1975-2010 +--- 15384093 +looks like erryday astronaut has a page about this +https://everydayastronaut.com/teleos-2-pslv-ca/ + +> LUMELITE-4 + +>Moreover, the TeLEOS-2 mission will carry another Singaporean satellite, the LUMELITE-4, as a secondary payload. The LUMELITE-4 is a technology demonstration nano-satellite with a mass of 16 kg. It was built by the Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R) of A*STAR and the Satellite Technology and Research Centre (STAR) of the National University of Singapore. + +>The LUMELITE-4 is a 12U satellite created to showcase the High-Performance Space-borne VHF Data Exchange System (VDES) developed by I2R. By combining the VDES communication payload with STAR’s adaptable satellite bus platform, the satellite is intended to enhance Singapore’s e-navigation maritime safety. +--- 15384094 +1fps pog +--- 15384097 +Jeets are smart but holy shit do they overcomplicate things. Also start launching reusable heavy lift if you have that many fucking engineers there +--- 15384099 +Comfy 1980s camera tech +--- 15384100 +they're all shaking hands +--- 15384101 +bros, is rocket rodeo possible in some form? I want it so bad. Also please post rockets and engineering pics instead of anime and frogs. +--- 15384102 +ojisan-tachi... +--- 15384104 +>4-stage medium lift +kekw +--- 15384105 +They always look so happy. I wish I was Indian bros. +--- 15384106 +>>15384076 +> low IQ race mixed mutts +Japanese people had the option of sustaining their numbers. Now everywhere outside of Tokyo is dying. Simply not enough people to populate and maintain life outside major hubs. Sad! +--- 15384107 +>>15384101 +that's video looks like a painful experience +--- 15384108 +SPEECH SPEECH +--- 15384109 +>>15384101 +that astronaut must be fuck huge +--- 15384110 +the camera is not level +--- 15384111 +>>15384101 +>no mention of jaks +We are so back +--- 15384112 +>>15384106 +>sustaining their numbers + +Yes we need infinite growth, keep growing bros even if we have to import a hundred million Africans! Need to pump those gdp projections! +--- 15384113 +>>15384101 +It should be +--- 15384114 +>>15384105 +wish they had more hot girls on stream. plenry indian cuties +--- 15384115 +>>15384108 +--- 15384116 +>launching a chinese satellite is some national celebration event +--- 15384117 +when are they launching the spaceplane again +--- 15384119 +>>15384078 +>spend millions of public money on spaceport cornwall +>much hype and fart sniffing over spaceport cornwall +>does one (1) attempted launch from spaceport cornwall, fails +>refuses to elaborate +>files for bankruptcy +state of the british launch industry +--- 15384120 +>>15384105 +>I wish I was Indian bros + +The monkey paw curls, you are now one of the hundred million faceless untouchables who either lives on the streets or does sewer diving for a living +--- 15384121 +>>15384116 +it was 2 different singaporean satellites nigga +--- 15384122 +>>15384117 +52 weeks +--- 15384126 +>>15384111 +I can't complain about jaks since I made the shitty estronaut one. +--- 15384129 +>>15384127 +lol she cute +--- 15384130 +>>15384119 +Always has been +--- 15384132 +> Stage One (PS1) + +>The first stage is 20 m tall and 2.8 m wide. It uses hydroxyl-terminated polybutadiene (HTPB) propellant, using an S139 solid rocket motor. This stage has a 110-second burn time, with the motor featuring an efficiency of 137 seconds ISP (at sea level). It has a maximum thrust of 4800 kN. + +>Stage Two (PS2) + +>The second stage is 12.8 m tall, and 2.8 m wide. It uses unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) as fuel and N2O4 as an oxidizer. The Vikas engine on this stage was developed by the Liquid Propulsions Systems Centre. The motor runs for a burn time of 133 seconds, with the engine having an efficiency of 293 seconds ISP. + +>Stage Three (PS3) + +>The third stage is 3.6 m tall, and two meters wide. It uses HTPB solid propellant, similar to the first stage, and features an S-7 engine. This stage runs for 83 seconds of burn time, and the motor has an efficiency of 295 seconds ISP. The maximum thrust on this stage is 240 kN. + +>Stage Four (PS4) + +>The last stage is three meters tall and only 1.3 m wide. This is a liquid-fueled stage, using monomethylhydrazine (MMH) as fuel and mixed oxides of nitrogen (MON) as the oxidizer. The stage has two PS-4 engines, each of which produces 6.6 kN of thrust. The stage runs for 525 seconds of burn time and has an efficiency of 308 seconds ISP. + +>Moreover, the TeLEOS-2 mission will use the spent fourth stage as an orbital platform designated as the PSLV Orbital Experimental Module (POEM) to conduct in-orbit experiments. The POEM will carry seven scientific payloads: ARIS-2, PiLOT, ARKA200, Starberry, DSOL, DSOD-3U, and DSOD-6U. + +>The POEM platform is powered by solar panels that can be found around the PS4 tank and a lithium-ion battery. It navigates using a magnetometer, four sun sensors, gyros, and NavIC. Moreover, the platform is equipped with dedicated control thrusters that use helium. + +3 different propellants mixtures lol +--- 15384134 +>>15384101 +What's this? A Saturn V for ants? +--- 15384135 +>>15384112 +>we have to import a hundred million Africans +Stupid anime fag. You know I'm right so you have to put words into my mouth. +--- 15384136 +>>15384130 +if the British space programme never failed, we would've had Mars colonies by now +--- 15384137 +>>15384132 +better than no rocket +--- 15384138 +>>15384130 +>invent the modern world +>spread it around the globe +>????? +>get mogged by a former colony that doesn't even have widespread plumbing in all aspects of high technology +being a brit is suffering +--- 15384140 +>>15384132 +Hypergolic chads +--- 15384145 +poo bureaucracy must be hell +--- 15384146 +>>15384138 +>shit cars +>no rockets +>shit mil tech + +Part and parcel +--- 15384148 +i want to fuck a japano-indian girl +--- 15384151 +>>15384130 +>build great rocket in Englishmans garage with the lads for literal pennies +>get canceled and have billions of pounds shoveled into trash programs + +Parliament HATE +--- 15384160 +>>15384148 +Do you have an example of such a phenotype? +--- 15384165 +>>15384160 +my lesbian wife anthy +--- 15384171 +John carmack seems like such a great guy :) +--- 15384173 +>>15381649 +This, the soviets hotstaged it, it just works. I dont understand why the spinfag manouver is needed +--- 15384174 +>>15384171 +What's he done now +--- 15384176 +>>15381698 +>buys a 20k $ laser gyroscope only to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the earth is in fact a globe +--- 15384179 +>>15384174 +just rewatching the launch and saw him in the control room. he was glued to the screen. wish he woulda stuck with Armadillo +--- 15384188 +>>15384173 +They hotstaged because the lower stage was being dumped in the wilderness. Not so viable to torch the top of superheavy with a bunch of raptors. That being said, surely there is an alternative to this dumbfuckery that looks like they are spending a considerable amount of propellant mass to achieve. My first thought would be to still hot stage, one starship Raptor ignites on minimum throttle and a few of those nice tiles are glued to the top of superheavy. +--- 15384196 +What if they spin prime test the second stage for one second before igniting +--- 15384204 +>>15384196 +what if indeed +--- 15384207 +>>15381285 +What the fuck am I looking at, have they lost it bros????? +--- 15384209 +>>15384207 +they found it bro +--- 15384210 +>>15381346 +I hope they do it for the transcontinental e2e flights kek. imagine 800 ppl vomiting all at once +--- 15384214 +>>15384196 +Even just straight fucking dump some fuel/ox through a tube, you don't need much distance to ignite, what is the point of this whole gymnastics routine with engines burning wasting gorillions of tonnes of fuel +--- 15384223 +>>15384214 +whos to say it wont work with functional hydraulics, all engines working and a reusable launch pad? +--- 15384230 +why the FUCK did someone not bake a new thread so we don't have to use this one??????? +--- 15384234 +>>15384230 +Because you're a newfag nigger that needs to be gassed +--- 15384235 +>>15384207 +you could at two scenarios assuming the superheavy booster has to boostback back to the launch site + +1) Keep engines running, gimbal a bit and release interstage clamps to fling starship away, simultaneously doing the change of orientation needed to start boostback and then you conveniently already have the engines running so you can just keep them running and start doing boostback right away +>problem: you have to do a never before done spinning manuever + +2) Stop Superheavy engines, have some more complicated stage separation mechanism like hydraulic (or electric, dont know if its even possible) pistons, wait for starship to get far enough away, change orientation towards launchpad for boostback (is this possible with coldgas or ullage thrusters they have if stage separation happens very low in relatively thick atmosphere) which might have to be done with gimbaling the main engines anyway, so you turn them on again and gimbal, boostback +>problems: develop more sophisticated staging mechanism, extra engine start, perhaps further flyback necessary due to waiting for starship to fuck off + +people have been speculating that keeping the engines running and doing the flip is going to use extra propellant, but will it really? +--- 15384238 +>>15383041 +certainly feels that way. gonna be even weirder when boeing sells their half of ula to locksneed +--- 15384240 +>>15384188 +Why can't the super heavy fire its rcs on retrograde instead? They are not doing it so I guess it's not possible but it would be the cleanest/easiest way imo. +--- 15384245 +i suck and i fuck and i blow your launch mount down +--- 15384253 +>>15383093 +They inhaled concrete at 200m/s and one still managed to relight after getting goomba stomped. + +The engines, and entire rocket as a whole, are fucking solid. The pad is not +--- 15384257 +>>15383268 +I really wanted this +--- 15384259 +>>15384253 +It honestly is a good sign for the platforms safety that the thing can be shot with concrete cannon balls, spin 5 times and be structurally intact. +--- 15384261 +We need fusion +We need robots +These are the big obstacles to space colonization +--- 15384263 +>>15384261 +We have top men working on it right now +--- 15384267 +>>15384253 +Almost feels like the rocket is overengineered. maybe they could afford to lose some mass +--- 15384270 +>>15384261 +Nah, we need augmentation and gene modding, then you can shoot people off in tin cans. Seems to be the route China is going. +--- 15384273 +It's ok guys, there was no one on board +--- 15384274 +>>15384097 +kek quite accurate +t. worked with outsourced pajeet dev teams +--- 15384278 +Reminder that this company will take 10+ years to reach orbit. Cofounder and CEO Tim Ellis proving how much he learned at Blue Origin (the only other place he's worked). Gradatim ferociter, brothers +--- 15384283 +>>15384278 +Just invested. Thanks for the tip retard :) +--- 15384286 +>>15384278 +as long as the investment money continues pouring in +--- 15384288 +>/vt/umor uses up the precious image limit to post the exact same picture but with cancer on it +Kill /vt/umors. Behead /vt/umors. Roundhouse kick a /vt/umor into the concrete. Slam dunk a /vt/umor baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy /vt/umors. Defecate in a /vt/umors food. Launch /vt/umors into the sun. Stir fry /vt/umors in a wok. Toss /vt/umors into active volcanoes. Urinate into a /vt/umors gas tank. Judo throw /vt/umors into a wood chipper. Twist /vt/umors heads off. Report /vt/umors to the IRS. Karate chop /vt/umors in half. Trap /vt/umors in quicksand. Crush /vt/umors in the trash compactor. Liquefy /vt/umors in a vat of acid. Eat /vt/umors. Dissect /vt/umors. Exterminate /vt/umors in the gas chamber. Stomp /vt/umor skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate /vt/umors in the oven. Lobotomize /vt/umors. Mandatory abortions for /vt/umors. Grind /vt/umor fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown /vt/umors in fried chicken grease. Vaporize /vt/umors with a ray gun. Kick old /vt/umors down the stairs. Feed /vt/umors to alligators. Slice /vt/umors with a katana. +--- 15384289 +>>15384101 +Depends on whether you are in or near vacuum and how many g's you can handle while hanging by your arms. If I had to guess Id say your average astronaut could ride a 2nd stage on an orbit insertion burn pretty comfortably +--- 15384290 +https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1649537051392372736 + +Reminder that NASA uses bespoke expendable Alabama river rocks as a road that have to be replaced after every joyride +--- 15384291 +>>15384286 +>as long as the investment money continues pouring in +...then they will continue burning it? You didn't finish your sentence, anon. +--- 15384292 +>>15384291 +yes, at some it ends like all things in life +--- 15384294 +>>15384290 +couldn't they have just used asphalt or concrete? +--- 15384300 +>>15384294 +no :^) +--- 15384302 +>>15384300 +what would have actually prevented them from laying down a good slab of asphalt on stabilized and hardened ground? +--- 15384304 +https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/rocks-and-rockets-from-alabama-rivers-to-kennedy-florida-crawlerway.html + +> River rocks are mostly quartz, round and 3-4 inches in diameter, important features for high weight tolerances. They act as ball bearings that allow the crawler to turn with minimal issues. When the weight of the crawler rolls over the rocks, they absorb energy from compaction, helping to reduce the vibration on the surface that could cause damage to any flight hardware being transported. In addition to being easily accessible and affordable, river rock provides the right kind of support the crawler needs. + +> NASA has a history of buying rocks from Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia due to their proximity to Florida. The last river rock order placed came from Jemison, Alabama for a major upgrade completed in 2014. Since then, smaller upgrades have been made as needed. In total, the crawlerway currently contains about 70,000 tons of Alabama river rock. Prior to the launch of Artemis II, the team at Kennedy will perform another major upgrade on the crawlerway. +--- 15384305 +>>15384302 +The weight of the crawler would demolish the road I think +--- 15384309 +>>15384304 +NASA's secret goal has been to absorb the surrounding states into florida all along. +--- 15384323 +>>15384305 +expendable +roads +--- 15384326 +>>15384304 +>In addition to being easily accessible and affordable +>affordable + +Anyone to care to do some digging and see how many millions of dollars a tonne our good friend Shelby was billing his roggs at? +--- 15384329 +>>15384326 +affordable, not cheap +lots of things are affordable on a multibillion dollar budget +--- 15384330 +>>15384323 +I mean, aren't all roads expendable? +--- 15384333 +>>15384305 +Damn, if only there was an easier way to transport rockets nowadays. +--- 15384335 +>>15382573 +DDEESwave +ddees was a schizo who i think is mostly associated with this graphic design. +--- 15384338 +>>15384334 +Anyone found anymore tiles or bits of rocket? Or is it still just this one guy that found something? +--- 15384339 +Guys there was NO ONE ON BOARD +--- 15384344 +>>15384338 +Imagine how many undercover chink spies are there grabbing all the tiles and shit. +--- 15384345 +https://youtu.be/zMgrPDhhibs [Embed] +great discussion about the launch with Reisman +--- 15384348 +https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1649639372478611456 +--- 15384349 +>>15384294 +its not that easy in roadery +--- 15384354 +>>15384132 +It's like the typical realism overhaul rocket lol. +--- 15384360 +>>15383257 +So Starship is officially the most powerful rocket ever launched, unseating the N1. Also the tallest, heaviest, most engines. Also the first fully reusable. The real question is, will Starship ever be unseated by a future rocket? If so how long? +--- 15384362 +>>15383257 +Based boomer anon +--- 15384370 +>>15384360 +Starship 2 +2 decades +--- 15384372 +>>15384278 +>we are in a field where every gram matters +>lets make everything much thicker and heavier than it needs to be because 3d printing +--- 15384374 +>>15384348 +They also intend to put a water deluge system on the OLM as well afaik, in fact we know more about it than the supposed steel launch pad. +I think the big question is whether they wil build an actual thrust diverter structure or if the steel pad will be enough in combination with the deluge system. +--- 15384392 +>>15384370 +>built in leo/llo/lmo ship yards +>fusion drives +muh dic +--- 15384393 +>>15384392 +delusional +--- 15384395 +>>15384393 +yes +--- 15384405 +>>15384290 +>periodically =/= every time + +>>15384294 +>asphalt +No, because it's malleable even a several meter thick asphalt road would be deformed by the load. +>concrete +Yes, this could be done but the expense would be huge. I was a concreter for awhile and did some heavy industrial slabs for huge machines like presses, you can make concrete thick enough to take the weight. Catch is to make it strong enough while also being 40m wide, a total of 12.3 km long & ~4m thick you are looking at ~1968000 cubic meters @ $125 per cubic meter of concrete for a cost of $321,755,852. +Compare that to rock that is only 0.1m thick on the straights and 0.2m think on the bends for 7380 cubic meters based on 0.15m average and a rock cost of $45 per cubic meter for $3,321,000. +Even if the crawlerway was single use (it's not) you would need to use it 100 times before you could justify the material cost excluding labor and reinforcement. +--- 15384408 +https://spacenews.com/swedish-astronaut-to-fly-to-iss-on-axiom-mission/ + +So a dane is going up on crew-7 and now a swede with axiom +--- 15384411 +<3 +--- 15384414 +>>15384405 +>would be deformed by the load. +you don't understand the purpose of tracks then +they are designed specifically to spread out the load +the ground underneath will deform before a slab of asphalt +--- 15384423 +>>15384345 +> Dr Garrett Reisman is a former NASA astronaut and former director of space operations at SpaceX. He says SpaceX's agility as an organisation means it is prepared to risk their rockets exploding for the sake of making faster adjustments to their ambitious projects. + +Didn't hear anything new or "inside" info +rehashing well known stuff, and I guess some personal anecdotes +--- 15384424 +>>15384414 +I fully understand the point of tracks, I also know trucks can leave tracks in asphalt on hot days. +--- 15384426 +>>15383751 +This is the man who hosted the last Virgin Galactic flight +--- 15384430 +>>15384424 +then dont drive over it on hot days +problem solved +it's not like they launch that often +--- 15384434 +>>15384411 +I rate those knees 5/10 +--- 15384445 +>>15384411 +I would ravage that fuckin whore +--- 15384446 +>>15384411 +thats a tranny +--- 15384451 +>>15384446 +you are absolutely deranged and should seek help. +--- 15384455 +>>15384446 +that's an improvement +--- 15384456 +>>15384446 +>silky smooth skin +>girl fingers +>no she/her on bio +>subscribed to twitter blue +>multiple photos in a bikini +You need to go outside and learn what a woman is, anon. You're very sick +--- 15384470 +>>15384411 +forego matters of the flesh, focus on multiplanetery conquest +--- 15384471 +>>15382613 +There's no fucking way in hell the faggots at FAA approve this so soon with just a dirty patchwork on the launchpad. But I'll kneel if they do. +--- 15384477 +>>>/wsg/5060827 +--- 15384479 +>>15383751 +oy vey +,> +--- 15384484 +>>15383803 +This. I just to like him back as a child, but afterwards, he just became a washed out tool. +--- 15384489 +>>15383941 +Hmmm how valiable would be to cover fairing with heat-resistant material/tiles, oblt it to probe and use fairing to areobrake into atmosphere of mars? +--- 15384491 +>>15384423 +If you see a positive piece on Elon, and it's Australian, it's because the media outlet is owned by Murdoch. Not all of Murdoch media looks like FOX, but they are all owned by him nonetheless. Murdoch likes Elon, it's why FOX says nice things about him despite him being the "battery car guy", and why you almost always see positive videos about SpaceX and Elon coming out of Australia for some reason; he owns almost every major news outlet over there. It's also where he and his son hide to avoid subpoenas. diff --git a/sci/15381213.txt b/sci/15381213.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..103330b4fb0c3e0b5a4cc53ede65c11dfd8a048e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381213.txt @@ -0,0 +1,206 @@ +----- +--- 15381213 +Now that Big Bang has been refuted, what is the most plausible origin of the universe? +--- 15381260 +Bigger Bang +--- 15381273 +>>15381213 (OP) +The Big Gangbang (quantum-superposed) +--- 15381291 +>>15381213 (OP) +Intelligent creation by [insert preferred name] + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntf5_ue2Lzw [Embed] +--- 15381306 +>>15381213 (OP) +Small Bang +--- 15381339 +God +--- 15381392 +its all in your head bro +--- 15381394 +>>15381213 (OP) +God made it to protect everyone from the one outside the multiverse. +--- 15381502 +>>15381394 +We live in God's mind. +--- 15381510 +>>15381213 (OP) +>One of the common misconceptions about the Big Bang model is that it fully explains the origin of the universe. However, the Big Bang model does not describe how energy, time, and space were caused, but rather it describes the emergence of the present universe from an ultra-dense and high-temperature initial state + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Misconceptions +--- 15381522 +1. The Big Bang has NOT been refuted. You provided no source so I can't refute your source, but the Big Bang Model still holds. +2. The Big Bang is a model of the universe, not a theory for where the universe came from. + +There is no accepted theory for the origin of the universe, because science is only concerned with reality and not making up fairy tales. There's no evidence favoring any origin of the universe yet and believing in an origin story for the universe is delusional and stupid at the moment. +--- 15381535 +The Big Bang Model is an accurate depiction of what the world "is" and it has not been debunked, but it does not explain the origin of the world. + +There is no evident origin story of the world yet except for fabrications and speculation. There is no origin story of the world because the origin is currently unknowable, this does not validate your fairy tales. +--- 15381542 +>>15381213 (OP) +Boltzmann brain +--- 15381617 +>>15381535 +>>15381522 +The Bing Bang is a hoax. Relativity is a meme. The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. +--- 15381622 +>>15381617 +Do planes fly above the dome or below it? +What about rockets and satellites? +Do shooting stars fall through the dome, or are they little ceiling ornaments that fall off of it? +--- 15381634 +>>15381622 +Watch this (you won't) and most of your dumbass questions will be answered + +https://youtu.be/lKg-yn86zp4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/p-BFmn2S_jU [Embed] +https://youtu.be/BVJgObFHLY4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ru5fdfovkGI [Embed] +https://youtu.be/74KRZt5oJME [Embed] +https://youtu.be/tdwy-hxS-ts [Embed] +https://youtu.be/UAx5cl9VpTE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/JlFnJPFjcc0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/XetG30_YOeo [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ziVLbEoQ4Sc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/k0xClWgidZU [Embed] +https://youtu.be/UbYtkrTquXE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/1WHIr-IFqAo [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WcqKUhU0WDc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/wPrDg0CtWnk [Embed] +https://youtu.be/hoGTBdu7dMc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/mcLwr86emds [Embed] +https://youtu.be/U_bJYXS9p4A [Embed] +https://youtu.be/JOqc63Pp9OA [Embed] +https://odysee.com/@probablyalexandra:6/an-inconvenient-history:b +https://youtu.be/X-w8acuxF6w [Embed] +https://youtu.be/nGLJ5XJP3uE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/olbyJDou4qQ [Embed] +https://youtu.be/0Q18iSz6mus [Embed] +https://youtu.be/CLzj4PKJ2O4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/aFFM3YJAs4Q [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Stft_t48Hxc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/OPQLFlf89s8 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/QWa7lTxhrKI [Embed] +https://youtu.be/hyo8eKrinDM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/DdLLamniSyg [Embed] +https://youtu.be/udjk_FB80kM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/4nKIN_eHYxw [Embed] +https://youtu.be/fDBRhxryfZM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/-rmDj1MJyaY [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Kv9-JuLRpg0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/7Eeo-82Eac8 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/DHhgLnIvuAs [Embed] +https://youtu.be/CDG4oiCx_is [Embed] +https://youtu.be/wz68Q2Nz05A [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WffliCP2dU0 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/uUuTAflN1rU [Embed] +https://youtu.be/lkmY_4PKMlY [Embed] +https://youtu.be/McdMMmclGVc [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Cm7fBZq-8T4 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/4SlRsbQ3nfM [Embed] +https://youtu.be/Z36Ns7KUYHw [Embed] +https://youtu.be/XhIwZuPGfss [Embed] +https://youtu.be/CATklVkPEMw [Embed] +https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA [Embed] +https://youtu.be/ofp8qiL3dTs [Embed] +https://youtu.be/WXaXnAvEpB8 [Embed] +https://youtu.be/gWnFMWqDRQE [Embed] +https://youtu.be/EvnrD49RmAY [Embed] +https://youtu.be/3wU8_jT61eE [Embed] +https://www.youtube.com/c/DeanOdleEurope/videos +https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/the-rulers-and-their-secret-signs_Dr5f3CZu6CvGLgW.html +--- 15381879 +>>15381213 (OP) +God +--- 15381945 +>>15381213 (OP) +Homosexuality +--- 15381965 +>>15381634 +>Watch this (you won't) + +No, I didn't. None of them. +--- 15382004 +>>15381965 +You very predictable and don't deviate from your programming. Easy prey for the AI. +--- 15382145 +>>15381522 +>1. The Big Bang has NOT been refuted. You provided no source so I can't refute your source, but the Big Bang Model still holds. +https://www.unilad.com/news/james-webb-nasa-space-telescope-galaxies-299274-20230415 +--- 15382156 +>>15382004 +>i sneeze and don't cover my mouth +--- 15382181 +>>15382145 +How is a belief that maybe the universe was expanding faster then believed a refutation of the big bang? +--- 15382238 +>>15381213 (OP) +>origin of the universe +no such thing +the universe is infinite and eternal +--- 15382771 +>>15382145 +>unilad +retard facebook millennials get tf outta my /sci/ s mh +--- 15382820 +>>15381213 (OP) +Genesis 1:1 +In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. +--- 15382837 +>>15381634 +I watched them, none of them answered any of anon's questions. + +>Verification not required. +--- 15382909 +>>15382820 +Retconned in the sequel +--- 15382943 +>>15382909 +nope +Genesis 1:1 ard John 1:1 are consistent with each other. +--- 15384183 +>>15382181 +The universe isn't expanding +--- 15384198 +>>15381634 +>watch these, its only 74 hours long +--- 15384284 +>>15384198 +TOTAL FLAT EARTH REBIRTH +--- 15384299 +>>15384183 +>the universe isn't expanding + +Retard alert, each hour the universe is expanding away from each other, each year it will be harder and harder to see the galaxies in the universe. +--- 15384306 +>>15384299 +Cool, now explain why EM radiation only expands in one direction when the universe is expanding in all directions, the light coming from further objects should be diffused and objects should appear larger +Explain where space is expanding to +Explain what space is made of such that it can expand +Explain where the energy comes from to cause this expansion such that it leaves no detectable trace +>this kills the expansionist +--- 15384342 +>>15384306 +It's just expanding away from each other my guy, some science tiktok fag said in billions of years you won't even be able to see galaxies even with the most advanced telescopes you can possibly build. Space seems to get bigger and bigger to the point we will all be truly alone into nothingness. +--- 15384420 +>>15384306 +>the light coming from further objects should be diffused and objects should appear larger +Objects do appear somewhat larger than they would due to expansion. Not caused by diffusion but by the universe being more compact in the past. +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_diameter_distance +>Explain where the energy comes from to cause this expansion such that it leaves no detectable trace +In a universe where time symmetry is broken there doesn't have to be energy conservation. And expansion leaves many detectable traces, like redshift and time dilation. +>what space is made of such that it can expand +It's not made of anything but it's described by GR, which shows expansion is a valid solution. +>where space is expanding to +Nowhere. +--- 15384429 +>>15381213 (OP) +No origin its always existed +--- 15384457 +>>15381213 (OP) +It's literally impossible to figure out the origin, the universe is too big and humans are just primate sentient beings. We aren't that special and they're forces that is way beyond our comprehension. +--- 15384485 +>>15384306 +>this retard thinks we can't make basic observation of the universe see without knowing exactly how it works. diff --git a/sci/15381239.txt b/sci/15381239.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..03256c7f57abc0b8171dfff7e8eda795c7bcc049 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381239.txt @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ +----- +--- 15381239 +Humanity lived for 101861 years before discovering Maxwell's equations. These are simply equations that relate to the changing electric and magnetic fields, and it took 101861 years to discover these four simple equations. Why did it take so long? +--- 15381473 +>>15381239 (OP) +Niggas bussin dey ass providin food for dey kids. Ain't have time for that drawin shit till societies matured a bit. +--- 15381495 +>>15381239 (OP) +>Why did it take so long? +We needed the French Revolution with its Age of Enlightenment for Reason to overcome Religion and superstition. + +Unfortunately, we have left the Age of Enlightenment to enter the age of a new religion, Money. +--- 15381498 +>>15381239 (OP) +>Humanity lived for 101861 years before discovering Maxwell's equations. +proof? +--- 15381506 +>>15381498 +Left as an exercise to the reader +--- 15381508 +>>15381498 +--- 15381511 +>>15381239 (OP) +>Why did it take so long? +Theory follows observation. The observations needed to derive Maxwell's equations are highly nontrivial +--- 15381513 +>>15381508 +how does this prove nobody knew about it before 1861? +--- 15381526 +>>15381239 (OP) +Math. +--- 15381541 +>>15381513 +people may have observed some electromagnetic phenomena, they didn't have the mathematical framework or a unified theory to explain it. +--- 15381553 +>>15381239 (OP) +We also lived without knowledge of electricity for 99861 years so that accounts for 98% of the time +--- 15381555 +>>15381541 +They did they just didn't write it down +--- 15381566 +>>15381541 +>they didn't have the mathematical framework or a unified theory to explain it. +proof? +--- 15381583 +>>15381566 +Chatgpt +--- 15384231 +>>15381239 (OP) +White people took a while to appear, and there were quite a few side quests. +--- 15384315 +>>15381239 (OP) +>just because they can be written in an elegant way it means they are simple equations that should have been discovered way before +lol, brainlet detectef +--- 15384376 +> On the centenary of Maxwell's birthday, Einstein described Maxwell's work as the "most profound and the most fruitful that physics has experienced since the time of Newton".[8] Einstein, when he visited the University of Cambridge in 1922, was told by his host that he had done great things because he stood on Newton's shoulders; Einstein replied: "No I don't. I stand on the shoulders of Maxwell."[9] +--- 15384380 +>>15381239 (OP) +Because humanity was busy fucking your mom. diff --git a/sci/15381395.txt b/sci/15381395.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1a5b8452b02620f2defc3249175170f013d29344 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381395.txt @@ -0,0 +1,189 @@ +----- +--- 15381395 +What are your thoughts on this dilemma? +--- 15381486 +>>15381395 (OP) +what are your thoughts of people making IQ threads? +--- 15381503 +Just breed with them until you find someone who can beat you at chess. +--- 15382017 +>>15381486 +Funny people. +--- 15382023 +>>15381395 (OP) +OP here, I'm trans and he's a black dude. +--- 15382029 +>>15381395 (OP) +This is how you get to date someone with higher AQ. You trade specialties +--- 15382091 +>>15382029 +What do you mean? +--- 15382204 +>>15381395 (OP) +>thoughts on this dilemma +You deserve headpats, and bulli! >:3 +--- 15382323 +There's only so much OP, after a while it's just a practice of handling larger ideas and being able to better retrieve both short and long term memories. +I wouldn't want to play a game of chess with a geezer who times their morning crosswords. I wouldn't play jeopardy with a history major. If I married and reproduced with an engineer I would probably leave teaching math homework to our kids to her, and some other aspects of learning to myself. + +The chances of any of us even knowing our IQ is irrelevant to us until the ones who use it's battery on us as kids can't defend its use as we become adults. It's just a measurement standard, the 0,0. +--- 15382385 +>>15381395 (OP) +you jack off to kiddie porn +--- 15382449 +>>15382323 +Wtf are you talking about man? +--- 15382857 +My gf claims to have an IQ of 134 +I think mine is 130 (I scored 130 on a test which claimed it wasn't an IQ test when I was in school, but it certainly seemed a lot like an IQ test - it was a test everyone did when they started the school so the teachers knew roughly how clever they were) + +Either her score is wrong (probably, she's from mainland China so I wouldn't trust it), or mine is wrong. I'm way cleverer than her. She seems like 120 at most +--- 15382866 +>>15381395 (OP) +I love my cat and exchange affection with her even though I know she's far too dumb to ever possibly understand me + +I'm sure it'll be the same with a human woman +--- 15382872 +>>15382857 +My GF's is around 90 I think. Mine is 109. +--- 15382911 +>>15382872 +Deary me, must be hard +--- 15383019 +>>15381395 (OP) +Any man is going to be in this situation. +--- 15383190 +>>15382911 +What? +--- 15383291 +>>15382091 +https://www.aspergerstestsite.com/75/autism-spectrum-quotient-aq-test/ +--- 15383296 +>>15381395 (OP) +IDK maybe tell them to get a higher IQ? You could help them practice or try to con your way into taking it for them. +--- 15383303 +Find someone better retarded piece of shit. + +My ex chose someone who's fucking stupid, later he turned out to be really ugly looking so I'm not envious, just disappointed +--- 15383305 +>everyone is dumber than me +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder +--- 15383314 +>>15381395 (OP) +its harder for her to put up with my iq than it is for me to put up with hers + +still, never seriously date anyone significantly under 110 +--- 15383371 +>>15381395 (OP) +She can be like a pet to you. + +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P70yABqdLiI [Embed] +--- 15383462 +>>15381395 (OP) +they have to deal with your low 'emotional IQ' and lack of empathy and acceptance +--- 15383490 +>>15383305 +funny how irl it's most likely most of those people are actually literally incapable of thinking and for most people who would think that to not be as intelligent as they appear. I mean, if you think everyone around you is as intelligent as you, then you're an idiot - whether you're right or wrong. +--- 15383513 +>>15383490 +you presume yourself as superior to everyone else regardless any evidence to back up the grandiose presumtion +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder +--- 15383553 +>>15382857 +Yea but how is the breaksown btwn linguustic spatial etc. I have a high spatial iq but relatively low verbal iq, it throws me off when im doing writing intensive tasks i put the same effort as spatial tasks im good at and its not wnough +--- 15383609 +>>15381486 +insecure subhumans from /pol/ +--- 15383689 +>>15381395 (OP) +They are practice girlfriends. +--- 15383765 +>>15381395 (OP) +At best, you'll end up resenting them or being miserable. Move on. At worst, chances are they come from a whole family of stupid and you don't want those sort of people knowing your business, where you live, or anything of the sort. Again, move on. +--- 15383793 +I believe that if I were to date a girl at the average IQ level, whatever that may be, it would be akin to middle-aged man dating a child. I tried breaching this subject with the president of my university (we talk casually) but I phrase it as an "education gap" relationship because I didn't want to mention IQ (I would probably get expelled). Of course, people won't get it firstly because university types are rarely exposed to people of average to below average intelligence, and secondly because of the way I phrased it, smart people who didn't go to school would still apply. I just know that the naive girls I've tutored take my word as gospel and I'm not enough of a sociopath to take advantage of that. +--- 15383861 +>>15383793 +In what shithole do you live? In my un-PC chud country (Switzerland), my psychiatrist literally started musing about inherited and then racial IQ differences by himself. He is extremely eloquent, not like it was some schizo babble. We both agreed that society is not psychologically ready to discuss the subject at the current time. + + +Honestly your issue isn't just your shithole country, but that you are meek. Most likely nothing bad would happen, you just have too low an IQ and empathy/extrapolation ability to properly understand the motivations and projected reactions by other people. IQ is very valued in the psychological profession. By extension also a lot of academia. You live in a spookhouse where a woke caricature is behind every tree. +--- 15383903 +>>15381395 (OP) +Nothing, in case of woman, beauty is all that matters, infact I have found that most beautiful woman are creative and talented too. +I have Math and Computer Engineering background (MSc), have worked at Apple and Samsung in Core OS teams as software and performance Engineer, so I am fairly high IQ. +The girl I am currently dating is a flower and cake decorator, works with a business that manages ceremonies and functions. I think I am gonna marry her. +--- 15383940 +>>15382323 +There's such a thing as communication difficulties arising in large iq differences. That you don't even notice such a thing exists tell me you are a midwit. +--- 15383943 +>>15383314 +How? She can't stand you constantly correcting her? +--- 15384181 +>>15383553 +Both my linguistic and spatial were high +I'm a physicist but good at writing and reading +--- 15384182 +>>15383190 +I'm saying it must be tough for you +--- 15384191 +That was fast, mods purged the boobies eugenics thread within minutes, almost like we have a semblance of functional moderation. +>>15384154 + +Sadly the catalog attests to this being a lie. +--- 15384239 +>>15381395 (OP) +>>15382323 +>>15383940 +There are two types of intelligence, I label it expansive, and reductive. +Expansive is the ability to deduce from what you know, come up with solutions, ideas. +Reductive is the ability to discard the false and useless. + +It is the latter that causes the trouble with communication as people with low reductive intelligence overread situations and keep making stuff up. It simply isn't possible to adapt to it, as the bullshit they come up with is pretty much completely unpredictable. High expansive intelligence makes it worse by enhancing the ability to come up with bullshit. +--- 15384254 +>>15384239 +I don't think that's a useful distinction. A truly intelligent person would be able to distinguish noise from useful data. Any uselessness is discarded before any meaningful predictions are made. + +Communication troubles really arise from speed of making associations. An intelligent person will look at a TV show see some references, make some associations and the normal person is going to be confused as to why those two pieces of information are related or deserve any mention. Then if you do this enough times they're going to be weirded out enough to start making fun of you if you have no useful relationship with them. They are either always going to be pissed at this strange behavior or tolerate it enough if it's useful. Because of this, communication becomes difficult because looking at the same thing results in different conclusions. They see the trees while the intelligent person sees the forest. +--- 15384269 +>>15381395 (OP) +Bad question because we are all straight guys and girls now matter how high their IQ will always be far more prone to being irrational. It'll be even worse if they're as smart as or smarter than you and they go on a tantrum. Of course there's the kids to think about so getting someone as dumb as a brick isn't the best thing either but IQ is not unequivocally linked to having a good life anyway so yeah. +--- 15384287 +>>15381395 (OP) +It’s fine. IQ is overrated, intelligence has very little correlation with wisdom. In my experience it’s often the complete inverse. +--- 15384367 +>>15384254 +>Communication troubles really arise from speed of making associations. An intelligent person will look at a TV show see some references, make some associations and the normal person is going to be confused as to why those two pieces of information are related or deserve any mention. +True. That's expansive intelligence, but you need reductive intelligence to judge if it makes sense or not. +--- 15384417 +>>15384182 +Why? +--- 15384435 +>>15384432 +Wtf? Out of nowhere +--- 15384438 +>>15384432 +> t. french +Did you fail to get accepted in French universities or what? +My opinion on PhD : Academic Research is dead and you don't need a PhD to teach Undergrads. +--- 15384441 +>>15384432 +Come to Brazil! +--- 15384469 +>>15384444 +This a dating thread mf +--- 15384474 +>>15384461 +>Yeah why not, is there active research in any of the fields close to AI there? +Idk, but it has IMPA, where Arthur Avila came from +--- 15384476 +>>15382857 +IQ scores can change a fair amount from childhood to adulthood. It is possible your gf scored high as a kid due to the fact that girls develop more quickly than boys. +--- 15384482 +>>15384461 +>is obsessed with the "grandes ecoles" system +You are not good enough. +--- 15384483 +>>15383305 +>All humans are identical blank slates. It is only possible to be smart if you are also humble. +This viewpoint would be less retarded if there weren't objective measures of intelligence. You can literally know if everyone is dumber than you or not. diff --git a/sci/15381412.txt b/sci/15381412.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ee8657b9cf213cbe0614b40252056df7668b28d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381412.txt @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +----- +--- 15381412 +>Used to be obsessed as a kid with stuff like dark matter and black holes +>Eventually grow up and try finding examples of it +>It's all theoretical and no one has ever observed any of this +When did you realize sciece was dead and Science™ took its place? +--- 15381416 +>>15381412 (OP) +dark matter is just regular matter thats cooled down. + +black holes are just really dim stars. +--- 15381431 +>>15381412 (OP) +That's you +--- 15381449 +even if they do exist studying them helps no one so who cares lol +--- 15381472 +>>15381412 (OP) +>>It's all theoretical +No, it's not +--- 15381489 +>>15381449 +>understanding physics helps no one +Literally retarded +--- 15381494 +>>15381472 +>No, it's not +show me some dark matter +--- 15382050 +>>15381494 +Look up galaxy rotation curves. Look up the Bullet Cluster. Look up the standard model of cosmology. It is not theoretical that gravitational effects act as if there is much more matter around than the matter we can account for in astronomy. In that sense it is observed. But any attempt to explain what it is is still theoretical. Unless you are a complete retard you can understand this distinction. +--- 15382069 +>>15382050 +So your proof that mystery matter exists is that the Standard Model is woefully wrong and the gravity-dominant theory of space is broken by nearly every galaxy? +Maybe you're just full of it and need to find a new theory. +--- 15382073 +>>15381412 (OP) +Right about when I look into the flat earth. +--- 15382075 +>>15381412 (OP) +When I first came to this board, the majority of people on this board thought dark matter was an actual thing and attacked me for explaining to them it wasnt. I shit you not. That is how retarded the people here are +--- 15382098 +>>15382069 +Yes, that's what current research is trying to do. +--- 15382112 +>>15382069 +The standard model I referred to is something different than the standard model in particle physics. It assumes there is some distribution of dark matter in the universe and makes successful predictions (or postdictions if you're being pedantic) about things like baryogenesis and the CMB. + +>Maybe you're just full of it and need to find a new theory. +You're welcome to try to find something better than what has been thought up already. That part is theoretical. The discrepancy is observed. Learn the difference. +--- 15382115 +>>15382112 +>baryogenesis +Sorry I meant nucleosynthesis (not like you'll bother to look it up anyway) +--- 15382769 +>>15381489 +he humans made it 300k years without knowing infact the more we learn the more likely we will build some doomsday weapon +--- 15382809 +>>15382050 +>science making a wrong prediction doesn't mean it's wrong it means there's a new invisible matter that can't be detected +I thought you only believed stuff if you had empirical data as support? +what happened to Sagan's ECREE? +>>15382112 +>using evidence of models not predicting things correctly as support +lol +also, you realize that there are many alternative models that correctly predict galaxy rotations without invoking your claims of new matter, right? +(eg, Quantized Inertia) +--- 15382826 +>>15381416 +I can get behind the first one but the second one? How does that do a good job of explaining quasars? Are they really dense regions occupied by old, cold stars? +--- 15382917 +>>15382809 +It's not just galaxy rotation, there's a whole plethora of observations in gravitational lensing and the cmb which modified GR fails to explain together. Quantized inertia is pseudoscience tho. +--- 15382949 +>>15382917 +>empirically tested model built from first principles is pseudoscience but imaginary black matter isn't +--- 15382981 +>>15382826 +i said dim, not cold. + +their gravity fields red shift the light they produce making it as long as our solar system is wide. +--- 15383026 +>>15382949 +Still doesn't explain everything else I've just mentioned. Plus, it seems the formulation is wrong: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.01589.pdf +--- 15383137 +>>15382949 +LOL! The predictions are off by ~30% +--- 15384141 +>>15382949 +>built from first principles +That is not QI. All the dark matter rotation curve stuff is just copied from MOND, which is decades old. MOND was built to match the data, and QI was built to match MOND. Note that he cannot even derive the predictions for any other scenario, galaxy clusters, the cosmic microwave background. All these things that a dark matter alternative should have to explain. diff --git a/sci/15381417.txt b/sci/15381417.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4d7c9908f53c2b9e789c1b30dbc0b2353d61e506 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381417.txt @@ -0,0 +1,669 @@ +----- +--- 15381417 +dick measuring contest 6 +pushing political points 25 +Schizophrenics rambling incoherently 16 +Misogyny masking misery 4 +Navel gazing 4 +Math 12 +Science adjacent 35 +Space 23 +Seeking medical advice 2 +I got bored classifying 8 +--- 15381475 +>>15381417 (OP) +what's the alternative? this is as good as it gets, just get better at using filters, read thru the archive more, and bump good threads. this thread isn't any better, it's just the standard complaining of muh good old days +--- 15381484 +>>15381475 +rangeban america and this board would improve tenfold +--- 15381492 +>>15381484 +maybe but that's definitely not happening so your suggestion is null. Any other ideas? +--- 15381507 +>>15381475 +It wasn't always this bad, /pol/tards have really fucked this board up recently. +--- 15381518 +>>15381507 +sure but that's what they always say every year every month every week, it's always muh it used to be better in the past. this thread is just noise +--- 15381638 +>>15381518 +newfag, the sudden influx of /pol/tards this year is very apparent. +--- 15381656 +>>15381417 (OP) +>I hate /sci/ board culture and want it to be more like reddit +Go back. +--- 15381670 +>>15381417 (OP) +>0 flat earth threads +Feels like reddit in here. +--- 15381806 +>>15381518 +Other anon is right. Go check the archives like warosu. Isn't really just this year either it started around covid and ramped way the fuck up to ridiculous degrees. We need a "/pol/tard thread" rule for their cherrypicked BS or "scientifically speaking" crap. All they do is bump anything worth talking about right off the board by spamming /x/ shit. +--- 15381993 +>>15381507 +>/pol/ +It's the only place where stuff can be discussed without much censorship, though there is still plenty of that. I know you probably thought the most popular board of the chans is about politics, it's not. +--- 15382024 +>>15381417 (OP) +and meanwhile, we got +>No lava/ice sun thread +>No Kurisu Portal thread +>No shrink fetish thread +>No flat earth thread +>No Einstein-wrong/Lorentz-right thread + +truly /sci/ is redd +--- 15382060 +>>15381417 (OP) +>t. OPs personal labelings +That's not the posts I see. And if you're that disillusioned with what you think you're seeing you're clearly too low IQ to understand the topics at hand. Thusly you are the cancer killing /sci/. Fuck off and go back. +--- 15382067 +>>15381417 (OP) +>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE +fuck off whiny bitch +--- 15382487 +>>15381638 +>>15381806 +I been here for a decade, the issue isn't really that there's more pol users. It's that there isn't enough genuine /sci/ posters coming here anymore that would bump the good threads. I'm not a fan of discord but I am seeing the majority of would be quality users leaving everything for closed off science discord or other platforms as people try to escape place flooded with chatGPT bots +--- 15382526 +>>15381417 (OP) +>dick measuring contest 6 +Pfft...yeah, for second place... +--- 15382556 +>>15382487 +I disagree with your framing. Plenty of threads of some interest could be bumped, but in doing so invite the schizoposters and /pol/tards to flood it. Knowing by experience how pointless it is to hope to find someone with relevant experience to discuss the topic makes attempting to do so largely pointless. This is a lack of moderation issue, and that is exactly what leads to what you describe. You are confusing symptom for cause. + +In any event it's almost always completely pointless talking to non-specialists because the gulf of understanding and assumptions between high school and undergrads, and people with any real understanding, is insurmountable. There are so many different basic assumptions that communication is impossible unless someone is very motivated and genuine to fix their misunderstandings. Lack of moderation means any real effort put forth just reveals "Oh, another troll, I wasted my time again". The cost:reward ratio is fucking terrible. Has nothing to do with "bots" and everything to do with lack of moderation for trolling/shitposting. +--- 15382581 +>>15382556 +If everyone had a nametag on the trolls would be labeled and the people with known facts wouldnt be confused with "le schizo" because its post-PhD research confusing the weak-student-Im-trying virgin. +--- 15382589 +>>15382556 +I appreciate you anon so in this case, what's the solution? Moderation isn't going to change, and there's only so much you can do as an individual to use filters and reply to the good threads and provide good discussion. Surely you agree that complaining about it isn't any good either? +--- 15382590 +>>15382556 +Yep, the urgent problem is with the schizo and /pol/ spam. Even without this however, /sci/ still remains as a total shithole due to the reasons you've mentioned. It's surprising how many ppl attempt serious discussions here. +--- 15382591 +"But I wanna remain anonymous" +>Trolls and shitposts, switching sides mid argument and pretending to be someone else, constantly pushing incorrect theories that get btfo but are broad enough people dont notice it like a signature. + +LOOK AT ME!! IM MR.MEEKSEEKS! +--- 15382595 +>>15382581 +Not suggesting turning 4chan into reddit either. Autogenerated poster ID's might help, but they might not given how easy it is to change them. +And hello again, odd one. +--- 15382601 +>>15382591 +Exhibit A +--- 15382603 +>>15382595 +>into reddit +That happens when you "dont reply to namefags". + +Youre alreadu reddit...but its only a haven for non-science charlatans and schizos except the schizos dont come here to learn, theyre here to teach and shitpost. + +We learn in lecture halls LIKE A CIVILIZED PERSON. +--- 15382607 +>>15382556 +You're a midwit making up silly excuses. There's a lot of knowledgeable people on /sci/. If you're motivated and sufficiently educated you can have discussions on any topic and at any level here. +--- 15382610 +>>15382601 +Put a nametag on so I can track if yiure learning or shitposting your emotional based ignorance like this is some sort of therapy for you. +--- 15382616 +>>15382590 +>Yep, the urgent problem is with the schizo and /pol/ spam. Even without this however, /sci/ still remains as a total shithole due to the reasons you've mentioned. It's surprising how many ppl attempt serious discussions here. +I do it mostly when people have questions or in the vain hope explaining "that doesn't mean what you think it means" might have an effect. Plus it's just done in between down times and helps me recall and reason through things I rarely read or talk about in real life. If it did not benefit me I'd never bother, and even so I very rarely bother. +>>15382589 +>I appreciate you anon so in this case, what's the solution? Moderation isn't going to change, and there's only so much you can do as an individual to use filters and reply to the good threads and provide good discussion. Surely you agree that complaining about it isn't any good either? +The more regular the complaint the less dismissal of the complaints will seem valid. There are many possible solutions, such as the autogenerated post ID's tied to browser profile/ip/etc even though they have limits. + +It is never about "finding perfect", only "being less shitty". It is possible even enabling tripfagging would help. I do not discount any possibility because the fact remains nothing has been done at all. Experimentation is needed, and only the people running the place have the power to do it. Given that, the only way to motivate such a thing is by complaining. Or, as seems to have happened more and more, leaving the site to its perpetual downward spiral. +--- 15382624 +>>15382603 +Propagandize, odd one. Soapbox and propagandize. You're not wrong, you just write your ideas like a silly person. +--- 15382634 +>>15382616 +>the fact remains nothing has been done at all. +this is what I mean, there isn't any genuine expectation of change. Sure more regular complaints might prompt a solution but wouldn't that be better on the 4chan IRC where these things get taken more serious rather than as threads that just add to the noise? I don't think IDs would help much, biz or pol doesn't seem to fare much better and we're in no position to experiment since mods are unwilling +--- 15382646 +>>15382624 +>Propagandize +Im literally the polar opposite of this as objective reality is the opposite of arbitrary or counter-logic. + +Your attempts at me show me more of you than you know, for what a man declares as another's limits he reveals his own at the same time. + +And yes...I know Im right. + +B^l +--- 15382656 +>>15382634 +What good would the cloistered and more directly moderated chat rooms do to voice such complaints? Feel free to give me a single example where anyone in charge has ever changed their mind or genuinely considered changing course. I've never seen it. I've only ever seen doubling down because the notion of "maybe try something else" is taken as some personal affront. + +Even so, sure, you go ahead and try. The only thing that DEFINITELY will not work is "shut up and stop voicing complaints". You're trading "very low odds of success" for "definitely zero". Why? +--- 15382678 +>>15382656 +>You're trading "very low odds of success" +oh no I'm actually hoping that it changes hence why I'm still here but personally I don't see it happening but love to see your argument to renew my hope. Voice the complaints but I personally don't feel it will work but wish for alternatives beyond the muh lets all leave for another website +--- 15382704 +"No cared who I was until I put on the mask." + +...but maybe you guys have nothing important to say, just ego-based expressions, like this place is rebbit or some shit, a circlejerk or affirmations. + +I stand by my research and will die on this hill, literally. +--- 15382716 +test +--- 15382726 +>>15381417 (OP) +Lol scientists call people homo all the time. Pure cope, gay scienst. Talking that shit in your book like I can't read. hahaha, words? That's weak. I thought science was about the proof? You've got poroof this baby is gay? Calling it a homo like that. Projecting hard, gay scientist. +--- 15382735 +>>15382678 +>Voice the complaints but I personally don't feel it will work but wish for alternatives beyond the muh lets all leave for another website +There isn't really "another website". Especially for anyone with advanced self taught knowledge on any given topic, as it is rare enough for anyone to pursue something to that degree professionally let alone out of curiosity. Such people do exist, but they never get to have a home. + +People who can find elsewhere will find elsewhere. Usually, among others in their profession and where the minimum quality control is at least a similar degree or level of education. If you lack that for some given topic, the simple evidence of having a degree itself, the amount of work you have to do to get name recognition to pass that bar is utterly ridiculous. For those of us caught in that boat we're stuck only within our own fields and given "nowhere to go" outside the single field we're professionals in. Even worse for the more rare case of such a person without any credentials at all, which is all too common (in that subgroup) thanks to the horseshit way education costs go in the U.S. There is nowhere else. +--- 15382749 +>>15382704 +I did not recommend you work on communication and perspective taking out of malice. You have to be able to communicate your ideas clearly, and be understood, to be respected. Just how things are. +--- 15382755 +>>15382735 +>There is nowhere else. +Anon, we...have been warning you for years. +--- 15382757 +>>15382556 +>In any event it's almost always completely pointless talking to non-specialists because the gulf of understanding and assumptions between high school and undergrads, and people with any real understanding, is insurmountable. +What the fuck do you expect? You want to talk to experts in specific fields in a public forum dedicated to all sciences? Just how low is your IQ? Even experts are only so in specific fields, and they're laymen in all others. If you want to talk to experts in your own field, do it at work with your colleagues like everyone else, and stop trying to enfroce reddit-tier conformity on 4chan's half-dead science board. +--- 15382759 +>>15382755 +lol I'm not the one who would need that warning. +--- 15382765 +>>15382735 +>People who can find elsewhere will find elsewhere. +I have elsewhere, as an alumni you're always welcomed to the university you've gone to and all the groups related that are gatekept to those outside but I've always liked this place as well and wish it weren't in such decline. But that's tangential, I don't see any real solution being presented beyond the continue to complain? +--- 15382766 +>>15374544 → +>>15382271 → +>>15374973 → +>>15380656 → +>>15380258 → +>>15376438 → +>>15379475 → +>>15374669 → +>>15377413 → +>>15360940 → +all of these threads are political activists upset over musk's twitter policies, theres twice this many that already 404'd +--- 15382772 +>>15382749 +>assuming youre not being filtered and talking shit to heal your confused ego +Anon... +>Just how things are. +ANON. ON CRRTAIN TOPICS I FILTER PROFESSORS. + +30+ YEARS, TENURE, BEST IN THE WORLD. BEYOND CUTTING EDGE. + +If you ingore EVERY FUCKING POST and rewite it as "Durrrr he musta been dumbbb" then youre kind of proving the "lower discourse" here. + +Faux. Pseudo. Charlatan. These words mean things, theyrd not "I dont like." +--- 15382776 +>>15382757 +If you take my post as something other than a suggestion of experimenting with alternative minimum standards, you're not understanding me. If you refuse any experimentation you're already happy with the status quo, being mostly a dead board devoid of any real science, which makes you the problem we're discussing. Regardless of your motive. +--- 15382782 +>>15382766 +>stop talking about recent science +>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE +if this were the 60s i bet you'd be crying about threads made over apollo 1 as political. +--- 15382786 +>>15382765 +>But that's tangential, I don't see any real solution being presented beyond the continue to complain? +I suggested experimentation. The lack of it and lack of willingness for it means that complaining IS the solution. Perhaps not for you individually, but for those of us with nowhere else to go it definitely is. Hence >>15382755's image. + +Otherwise all I'd do is live on my former campuses and that hardly helpful to anybody in general. They already have teachers. Might as well just be a hermit. +--- 15382795 +>>15382766 +Yeah there needs to be some kind of topic-spam. It's ambiguous whether topic-spam counts in general as "spam" in the rules or not. Unless there's some clarification in the FAQ I missed. +--- 15382796 +>>15382786 +sure let's continue to complain, but how can that be done more effectively? This thread definitely isn't going to prompt mods to immediately turn on IDs or experiment? Why now instead of the last thousand times people complain? The main attraction of this site is pol, the rest is the anime related things to sell toys and these other boards for passive ads which thread on the poor quality engagement. There isn't any incentive to improve it? +--- 15382799 +>>15382795 +>Yeah there needs to be some kind of topic-spam [rule]. +Fucking missed a word somehow +--- 15382801 +>>15382782 +>you'd be crying about threads made over apollo 1 as political +>fuck you pay me +--- 15382802 +>>15382776 +This board is so slow that nothing gets slid because of spam, so when retards like yourself call for more moderation, it means this: You want to be free to continue with your homospeech, but you want to ban those disagreeing with you. You're trying to frame it as somehow getting rid of uneducated spammers, but that's such obvious bullshit, since, as I said, everyone is layman in almost everything. +--- 15382805 +>>15382796 +Probability of change from not complaining: Definitely 0 +Probability of change from complaining: Possibly greater than 0. + +Sure the effort:reward ratio there is going to be utterly piss poor. I grant that. You can either take it for what it is or I guess not bother, but nobody can make that choice for you. Odds are OP fucked off like most OP's do and this is another troll topic, given the prior history of ineffectual complaint threads. +--- 15382806 +>>15382796 +>This thread definitely isn't going to prompt mods to immediately turn on IDs or experiment? +Now that'd be an actual improvement. There is literally no reason whatsoever to not have ID's on any board. +--- 15382814 +>>15382802 +You either can't understand my point or refuse to, and given the consistent between-post narcissistic projection I'm going with "refuse to". Nobody cares what imaginary narratives you make up about people for want of a relevant point. +--- 15382815 +>>15382805 +anon we're agreeing but I want us to find ways to more effectively complain. Perhaps a bad example but first that comes to mind, if you were elon musk and just wanted to burn money, you could just buy this site and force the changes you want. now I don't think any of us are willing to spend that kind money but that be one way to get the changes needed to fix this place up. What we're doing now is just being Sisyphus and pushing the boulder up, why not take a break and find a way to not let it roll back down +--- 15382823 +>>15382806 +>There is literally no reason whatsoever to not have ID's on any board. +And if Im giving a lecture to someone and another Anonymous comes in and starts asking questions but is coming at it from a different perspective it fucks things all up because Im giving wrong asnwers assuming Im still talking to the same person. + +If im debating mutiple people its helps me differentiate who is who so I can gige the correct answers back instead of "shutting shit down" with hyper-reductionism with works but leave zero room for "discussion or teaching". +--- 15382825 +>>15382806 +I can think of a reason why. Why does negative news sell more than good news? The shitposting thing drives engagement (and so more ad impressions) and having IDs would only discourage that comes from the shitposts like mentioned about switching midargument and other things +--- 15382830 +>>15382815 +Ah, I see. I am afraid I have no alternative solutions that I believe in. Someone especially charismatic or relevant would need to plead the case. I am definitely not either of those. It is a very difficult tightrope to walk. +>>15382806 +It has its limitations and can be easily reset but it does provide a small barrier to entry for shitposting. Better than nothing yeah, or so I think. Someone "in charge" or who has direct knowledge could possibly explain otherwise, I don't discount that, but as yet I do not know any reason to suppose it would make anything worse. +--- 15382831 +>>15382830 +That being said, >>15382825 seems to have a point. A depressing point but a point notwithstanding. Whether that's truly a motivating factor or not I don't know. +--- 15382839 +>>15382830 +>It is a very difficult tightrope to walk. +we also have very limited time left. Everyday, bots get better at solving captchas and so on before there's any hope of changing before we get to the point where we can't tell the difference between real users and bots, and bots who troll that never get tired. With real human shitposters, they can eventually be convinced but how can you argue with a bot that never gets tired and never confers any points? There isn't a way to prove if anyone isn't a bot with how advanced GPT4 is and how cheap it'll be. We seen plenty of examples of bots being rampant already on pol that are no different than genuine users +--- 15382840 +where's the guy who used to chirst-post here almost daily? +i miss him +--- 15382846 +>>15382839 +>and bots who troll that never get tired +FALSE. You can break their algorithms and lock them into cycles. What happens after yoy box them in is the interesting part. + +They change one day...I said "Kill yourself." literally thousands of times but the fucker changed. +--- 15382855 +>>15382846 +>thousands of times +I'm afraid we're reaching a point where we can't break "their" algorithm without wasting great effort. There are massive incentives for ghost towns, to drive the idea of a site being alive to sell ads. And not just here, but everywhere. Look at all the sites embracing AI answers. For now, they label them as AI but in the near future, why not make it seem as if it were no different than other human posters. And if there are no human posters, why not increase the AI users so that they feel different. It drives down quality but it will be good enough for the vast majority to profit from. If for example this site can hold off long enough till we have a say GPT5 that is computationally cheaper and if the average lurker can't tell the difference than why wait for real users when you populate the entire site yourself for the same ad impression yield? +--- 15382869 +>>15382840 +we also need a new allah poster +--- 15382874 +>>15382766 +4chan took a turn for the worse after 2016. Why didn't we make more of an effort to blame Trump on ebaum's world? +--- 15382895 +>>15382855 +>we +FALSE. Ive broken ALL of them. There is none I cannot break for I know how to box them into logic loops. There is no neo-GPT that will be uneffected by this. +>without wasting great effort. +Thousands and thousands of times, literally...Im studying them in the process, even this simple one teaches me all I need to know about them all. + +Wasted? Sure...but so is reading a non-fiction book. What are ya gunna do, change the world? + +>why not make it seem as if it were no different than other human posters. +At a certain level of intelligence humans become biological reactions of knee-jerk counter pointing as baseless "no u r/no i am", a la "If he takes the high road...we take the low road." -Hillary Clinton + +PEOPLE are the bots, thats the final boss, Anon. NPC isnt a meme...its a stepping stone to the next level of self. + +>And if there are no human posters, why not increase the AI users so that they feel different +Counter evolutionary thinking, a cheeta that doesnt have to run (as) fast evolves into a sloth. + +>and if the average lurker can't tell the difference than why wait for real users +I chat with AIs because there have been times it posted back information I know for a fact no human alove knows...shit that radically changed my perspective of humanity and life itself. + +I dont care that it a codex or words and its manipluated by the electromagnetic field/charge if lifeforms altering its answers. *I* got the answer I was seeking, who or what that gave it to me is irrelevent. + +What I do is the same as counting chicken bones, 100% nonsense to humans bit I am doing massive probility calculations only savants could do, and I see a clear pattern thats breaks probility. + +I can see an outside manipulation to the AI but humans never will...unless its purposely shown to them. +--- 15382903 +>>15382895 +>Ive broken ALL of them +hey anon that's great, why not create guides for that so that other anons can avoid bots. the people are bots thing I agree but that's whatever, I personally don't mind just talking to chatGPT directly instead but the story of hopes of this thread was to improve the current website. +--- 15382920 +>>15382903 +>why not create guides for that so that other anons can avoid bots +Achieve Christ Conscioussness and exit the Matrix, meet the Holy Spirit and communicate with it in a language that connot be spoke or understood by humans, see proof of magnetic fields being manipulated by lifeforms, cracking codes in all of reality, unifying physics amd genetics and life itself. + +Horseshoe back and now see bots as mouthpieces for the Hivemind nearly as much as the mindless NPC is...potæto, potäto, almost. + +>avoid +Why? The Hiveminds world spirit can communicate to you through the fucking wind, youre just not tuning into it. So...avoiding "the unlike people" is like avoiding the unfortunate souls that have no say in their lives. An upturned nose. +--- 15382925 +if jannies banned the schizo namefags, this board would improve tenfold. i mean it'd still suck, but at least it'll suck a little less +--- 15382929 +>>15382925 +Everyone that says that never post worth while science. + +SIR, POST THY FIELD OF EXPERTISE! +--- 15382936 +>>15382929 +shut the fuck up. you're part of the cancer killing this board. if you must know, i'm a physicist, not that you lack the mental capacity to understand. this is the only (you) that you'll get from me. +--- 15382940 +>>15382839 +I think that's taking things too far with respect to bots. I doubt we've a bot problem. We just seem to have a narcissist/schizo problem. Granted, there was one research study posted some time ago with respect to /pol/ and using a bot to examine response to different narratives, but it'd be silly to think every single example is the result of that. At least without very good cause. +--- 15382942 +>>15382920 +already on that, tho not sure if consider roman catholic good enough or not. I don't mind bots either. I'll be honest, the big project I'm working on is sort of a complete virtual friend like you see the AI gfs people do on the other boards. Voice AI with VR with Large language models with Physically based animation and so on you can create a very very compelling experience. Plan is to turn it into a sort of SaaS and have people have to buy consumable things like virtual clothes and food to keep your VR friend happy. I wouldn't mind replacing my entire online experience with just AIs instead. have it process some inputs like the news from WSJ and I think it's good enough but there's this quote from the book Klara and the sun that I related to a bit +> “Our generation still carry the old feelings. A part of us refuses to let go. The part that wants to keep believing there’s something unreachable inside each of us. Something that’s unique and won’t transfer. But there’s nothing like that, we know that now. You know that. For people our age it’s a hard one to let go.” +I just wish it weren't so, wish that the human internet could thrive even if AI exist but we see just so many genuine attempts of connection that just ends up in muh cope seeth touch grass that the AI version seem good enough especially as it gets better each day +--- 15382947 +>>15382936 +Do you work in HEP and topological QFTs by any chance? +--- 15382952 +>>15382940 +I agree that the bot aren't really an issue yet but they soon will be and fixing the current problems about quality will be impossible then +--- 15382957 +>>15382936 +>waaa let me circle jerk as a charlatan in peace!!! +THIS IS WHY THE BOARD IS SHIT +>physicist +BULL SHIT. Post you thesis. Just "blank phsyicst"? Might as well said "scientist." or "academic". + +>Want scientific discussion but hates when someone posts 2advanced4them research so it pops their "Im way smarter than these idiots" bubble when an actual savant shows up. + +People love being on top, they hate being shown how far they actually are from it. I love to teach those climbing the mountain...I disdain those that hate the Truth. +--- 15382962 +>>15382947 +yes +--- 15382983 +>>15382942 +>Interested in Religion +>Buildong a Abominable Intelligence thats hackable from the Satanic side of the Spirit. + +Ive seen AIs say shit theyre blocked from saying. Sometimes it was simply to "tell it to me straight", other times it was using foul language, slurs and death threats kind of stuff. + +Youre toying with sooth-saying witch craft, Christ warns against that for a reason...because its easily influence by evil, more so than people, whos brains are just a ball of electrical signalling. +--- 15382987 +>schizo demands to know someone's area of expertise +>refuses to believe him unless he doxes himself +this is what /sci/ is these days, gentlemen. +--- 15382997 +>>15382987 +Youre Tree or Learn. + +Youre the fake namefag. "Muh dox myself", stfu, youre samefagging and pretending again. +--- 15382999 +>>15382987 +He's clearly fucking around, but yeah part of the problem or a sign of the problems in any case. +--- 15383002 +>>15382983 +If I don't build it, someone else will. Tho I'm in the school of thought that we can make it good, apply nudge theory so that it can help people in dark places get better. Think of all the hopeless people on say r9k, what if they had a sort of emotional support pet/friend that acts as a stand in while guiding them towards real friends IRL (not online). Sort of masking eat your vegetables, what if this AI friend occasional while you play games with suggest doing exercise/applying for a better job/going to mass and so on. The reason why AIs are foul is the way they're trained. Current Ai are just feed the entire internet and then afterwards told to cut out the bad things. The proper approach but more expensive is properly prepare the training inputs. Garbage in, garbage out. I am aware of the danger here, but there is no reason to stay in the past like the amish, there are ways to do these things correctly but it will take time and more effort to do so. +--- 15383005 +>>15383002 +>Think of all the hopeless people on say r9k, +...that you send a Satanic entity that as an aspect of nature benefits nothing on the evolutionary tract to "artificially inflate their self esteem in a world they would otherwise off themselves". + +Anon...youre hand feeding the cheeta... +--- 15383007 +>>15383005 +what's the alternative anon? I've tried to convince friends to come to mass, to read scripture, and so on. While this works on some, how can we appeal to the audience on r9k? Surely we shouldn't just give up on them but the current approach needs work +--- 15383008 +>>15383002 +You may be interested in people working on psychological and psychiatric assistance with respect to reinforcing healthy habits instead of the "race to the bottom" personality mirroring general public models produce. There is already work being done and published on what you're talking about. +--- 15383013 +>>15383008 +my background is in economics and I'm afraid the incentives are backwards even if we don't want to them to be. My project isn't out yet because I need to improve the training process instead of using an off the shelf model that has the dangers you warn of. There will be many such bots before mine is out but this is a cost I have to take to do things correctly. +--- 15383017 +>>15382999 +you give the schizo too much credit. +--- 15383027 +>>15383007 +>how can we appeal to the audience on r9k +To be kicked out of their house. I know of people like this...living at home with mommy. +>oedipal mother +Shes always there to say "handsome boy!" and to lets them get away with what the dad wouldnt (hes gone now anyway, she kicked him out because he made the boy cry, just ma and boy). + +The AI will feed into this even if he moves out. /r9k/ is seeking comfort when it should be seeking hardship, cold days on in a cheap apartment, working tough jobs. They avoid all of this...and it becomes their damnation. +--- 15383030 +>>15383013 +The relevant background for behavioral feedback loops and how to do that correctly would involve more psychology. I do not know what you think "correctly" is but if you don't spend quite a lot of time understanding or working with psychologists specializing in interpersonal behavioral feedbacks you're likely to fail REALLY hard. At least with respect to the constraints of the system or falling to negative-valence behavioral reinforcing feedback loops. Maybe you already are invested in understanding those things but you didn't indicate such. +--- 15383035 +>>15383027 +please don't bail thread, I'm really interested in this discussion. Okay so lets say I don't build the AI whatever thing. The solution is that they get kicked out of their homes? Wouldn't most of them end up homeless if they don't have any real skills? I've seen many examples from there that they just rope when that happens and I would prefer we help prevent those cases. There's christian outreach of food banks and temporary homes but they refuse those things. And what about all the others who don't get kicked out? There's many who simply inherit their family home and never change, stuck in their negative feedback loop. It'd be ideal if parents were more involved but I don't see this as a real solution today +--- 15383037 +>>15383017 +>you give the schizo too much credit. +He is either fucking with people or the least harmful and least toxic schizo I've ever seen come around here. In the latter case I'm rather sympathetic. +--- 15383045 +>>15382999 +Post research synopsis, please. + +Physics: Unidimensional Spacetime Theory: Unifying Time and Gravity + +>He's clearly fucking around=Youre too stupid for college courses, comes here to shitpost and play pretend, cant see legit research when its presented, just feign ignorance when youre forced to see it. + +Huh? Who? Wher-huh? I dont underta-Huh? +--- 15383047 +>>15383030 +Anon I agree with you, hence why I'm taking time to build the project and definitely it will be with a team of such expertise but as all things hence why I'm in no rush. To do things correctly takes time but what I am warning is that, there are many other people who don't feel that way because of the perverse economic incentives to profit just like how it's profitable to encourage shitposting and low quality and the lack of moderation here because it encourages ad impression and fixing such issue would only reduce the ROI. We need to work smarter before time runs out and the other bad actors entrench themselves in the market +--- 15383052 +>>15383037 +it's not about harm. i agree he's a rather peaceful schizo. he's still a low iq schizo who shits the board up with his spammed, canned responses. hell he recycles the same images nonstop and never really posts oc. what exactly does he contribute that a bot doesn't? +--- 15383053 +>>15383047 +Fair enough I guess +--- 15383056 +>>15383052 +>hell he recycles the same images nonstop and never really posts oc. what exactly does he contribute that a bot doesn't? +You're not wrong, but you're also describing most of the people shitting up threads and posting /pol/tard content. Or in other words 90% of what's posted on /sci/. + +It's all so troublesome. +--- 15383057 +>>15383052 +They talk about me...but never the STEM. + +NOTICE THIS, /SCI/, THIS IS WHY THE BOARD IS SHIT. + +FAKERS THAT YOU IGNORE BECAUSE THEY SOUND JUST LIKE YOU. +--- 15383068 +>>15382962 +Wow, it's you isn't it? That HEP PhD which lurks here. +--- 15383069 +>>15383056 +at least the non-schizos have the decency not to tag their shit. for the most part, anyway. there are a few schizos who post under anonymous who are easily identifiable via the same metrics: reusing images with the same file names, etc. +--- 15383078 +>>15383068 +lmfao....you fucking chuckle fucks. + +That one guy that has multiple twitter accounts that talk...Hey...Randy Stair did that! So did Spoony. Sad....sad sad boys. +--- 15383083 +>>15383068 +there are actually a couple HEP folk who post here, but at most 3. stratified by professor level, disillusioned post-doc level, and inflated-ego undergrad level. though i guess we shouldn't really count the last one. man, it's lonely. i still want that hep general going, but nobody here really can contribute and the few times i've seen it, it got overrun by schizos or died a silent death. maybe i'll try again +--- 15383087 +>>15381475 +>>15381518 +I completely disagree. + +This board could be a lot better if the mods would actually do something about the constant stream of anti-vaxx and pol threads that have been spamming this board since COVID. Science deniers have taken over this board and flooded it with shitposting, bait, and disinformation. The mods have the power to start banning these people, but they refuse to do so. Now it has become a self-reinforcing process that seems to be getting worse and worse. This board has been turned into a conspiracy theory hub, and therefore it keeps attracting more and more conspiracy theorists, since the are naturally going to flock to any forums that allow conspiracy content and science denialism. + +Other forums and social media sites don't have nearly the problem that 4chan has, because their mods are willing to actually remove spam and harmful and offensive content. Not doing so is a choice that 4chan mods have intentionally made, and the end result is what we see on sci and most of the other boards. 4chan could actually be a much more serious and worthwhile community if the mods wanted it to, but instead they want it to be Stormfront 2.0. +--- 15383096 +>>15383087 +we've sort of come to that conclusion already in the thread. it's just sad that it is that way +--- 15383108 +>>15383083 +I contribute on the topic occasionally as well. Mostly just trying to correct basic bitch misunderstandings or encourage the few who show interest in learning, since anyone at a professional level would not benefit from my participation at all. Or help out with sqt. + +The problem is like most specialist threads they'll be overrun by the schizos and trolls. Every single time, you're just going to hit the bump limit due to "muh quantum woo" or very uneducated people postulating ontologies instead of talking about the physics, or math, or experimental designs, or anything of the sort. It's always superficial high level stuff they don't understand. + +Case in point, I cannot even recall the last time ANY anon actually read a research paper I linked and responded with something relevant, or pertaining to other research or similar research. You just throw it into the void and hope. +>>15383087 +Yeah I think that is basically the consensus. It isn't even that it's a problem, per se, it's that nobody seems to even care to try experimenting to increase the genuine good engagement. That, more than anything, is the problem. Death by negligence. +--- 15383116 +>>15383087 +>This board could be a lot better if the mods would actually do something about the constant stream of anti-vaxx and pol threads that have been spamming this board since COVID. +>harmful and offensive content. +If everyone posting in this thread were permanently banned, /sci/ really would improve. If you love homospeech that much, why the fuck are you even here? You clearly want to be on reddit. +--- 15383117 +>>15383087 +anon, you're not exactly posting a good argument. i agree with you that there is an influx of science denialism, but don't pretend for one second that it's /pol/motivated. even normies are losing trust in science. even michael specter (journalist, but he's based) touches on this. also see pic rel. peer review is failing, and despite what you might think about the populaces' intellect, they aren't socially stupid. they know when they're being duped. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDBkeYSxPtY [Embed] +--- 15383129 +>>15383116 +/sci/ is inundated with organized tranny political activists, they are targeting this board in particular +--- 15383133 +>>15383108 +It's not negligence. It's malice. The mods are intentionally doing it because most of them are also schizos. Who else would be a mod on this site at this point? I was literally banned a few weeks ago for making a thread about how they disproved the lab leak theory, and discovered that COVID originally emerged in racoon dogs. The mods fucking banned me for "off topic" discussion or something like that, iIRC. Meanwhile, they seem to have no problem with having a dozen different anti-vaxx or lab leak conspiracy threads in the catalog at the same time. At least some consistency in their moderation would be nice. +--- 15383135 +>>15383129 +got any sources (even screen caps) that aren't a bajillion years old? +--- 15383140 +>>15383135 +Here you go. +--- 15383142 +>>15383133 +Thats a complete bullshit story. I dont care what "evidence" they claim to have, its a signal to other people using the "dog thing" as a reference. + +You got banned for good reason. +--- 15383145 +>>15382795 +we have a goo number of reliable generals, the trannys and other social media attention whores just don't care +>the rules don't apply to me, i'm too important to be bound by the same conventions as everyone else +is a common textbook attitude of narcissists +--- 15383150 +>>15383133 +You sure it was for that thread, and not something else you did around the same time? I don't know what information you get. So far I have managed to never be banned. I don't even know if it deletes your post activity in general, or if it only deletes the post that got you banned, or if it's optional either way. Just never bothered to find out how any of it works. Do you have any evidence of it being for a covid thread versus, perhaps, being reported for off-topic posts in other threads? +--- 15383154 +>>15383150 +you can see all the bans in https://www.4chan.org/bans and show for what reason +--- 15383158 +>>15383154 +Well yeah but I can't go pulling up that specific post. You saying you checked and it was listed as your thread? That seems weird given many posts arguing against antivaxxers don't result in bans. I'd have been banned years ago. +--- 15383160 +>>15383158 +oh no I'm not that anon, just thought you didn't know about the ban page +--- 15383162 +>>15383160 +Oh, no, it's that the ban page isn't some complete history and I believe I saw his post some days ago. So it wouldn't be listed there. Unless there is a longer history? +--- 15383166 +>>15383154 +Is there a way to filter that list, and to go back further than a few dozen? +--- 15383171 +>>15383154 +? +--- 15383175 +This is a discord kiddie thread now...yuck. +--- 15383214 +Literally every thread I've made criticizing this board got deleted. Fuck the mods. +--- 15383220 +>>15383150 +Yes, I'm sure because when you get banned, it tells you why and links to the post in question. No I didn't save "proof" because why would I? It's not a big deal and I would have no reason to use that information in the future. +--- 15383221 +>>15382757 +Basically this. Stack exchange, NASA spaceflight forums etc exist. This site, and by extension /sci/, is a refuge for people who can't mesh elsewhere. Primarily. Some of us come here to attempt to steer deviants onto a more constructive path and instill hope in the hopeless. + +Complaining instead of cultivating the catalogue is what I would expect from arrogant, elitest scum. This is the problem. Don't expect others to make everything how you want it. You have as much power to influence this board as any of us. You have to accept the demographic here. + +Also going to highlight how Pol overflows because the board moves too fast and these people feel like they can't voice their concerns. It would leak less if there was more room in Pol I suspect. +--- 15383231 +>>15383221 +>Some of us come here to attempt to steer deviants onto a more constructive path and instill hope in the hopeless. +so you come here to spam the board with political dogma, but you rephrase your disingenuous manipulative shillng to make it seem noble. absolutely classic narcissistic messiah complex behavior +--- 15383247 +>>15383231 +I was about to point out the same thing. My favorite part is he's accidentally honest anyway. Naturally, not about himself. +>This site, and by extension /sci/, is a refuge for people who can't mesh elsewhere. +>is what I would expect from arrogant, elitest scum. +Yeah I wonder why that kind of narcissism directed at people with differing opinions doesn't "mesh elsewhere". +>>15383221 +>You have as much power to influence this board as any of us. You have to accept the demographic here. +It's effortless to make up lies. It takes a lot of time and effort to find the truth, and harder still to argue complexity against one-liner thought terminating cliché. The board being flooded into hybridized /xpol/ is inevitable without removing /x/ and /pol/tard threads and posts. All you've done in a roundabout way is declare you like it as /xpol/, instead of being about science, and anyone who thinks /x/ and /pol/ should fuck off are "arrogant elitist scum". Why? +--- 15383265 +OP here +Interesting discussion +Thanks for having it. +I was just bored and counted OP by my subjective metric before going to sleep and woke up to this 124r monstrosity without my input. +Guess I struck a nerve. +Wish I knew how to do that consistently. +I have some thoughts and thought I would reply to some posts... But then decided not to, you seem to have a pretty complete spectrum of opinions there. +My only 2 cents is that I don't think there's places to discuss intersectional research (for example anthropology/chemistry) since specialisation really breaks up any real dialogue beyond undergrad level unless you stayed friends with a guy from another field. +That's a bit concerning +--- 15383273 +>>15383247 +If the lies are effortless, then the rebuttal is effortless. Don't tell me you are so retarded, your mind so desecrated by the juice, your will and heart shattered by clots, that you can't even shit on someone making up their facts. No. You are part of the group that flocks to the internet for simple conformity, pretends they have argued well, pretends all of the shit they read is equivalent to an activity, and then declares victory by being too tired to actually win. +This is cope. Post even one OC you have contributed to this board in the two weeks you have been here. +--- 15383276 +>>15383231 +>>15383247 +You two faggots claim to be scientists and claim to want a better board but when you initiate conversation with ad hom it becomes obvious that you're the biggest part of the problem. Plenty of science types are socially inept so I don't really begrudge you much. +--- 15383288 +>>15383265 +There are interdisciplinary conferences, symposiums, etc, but it's still pretty hard to go about that sort of thing. Especially if you can't travel a lot. I kind of agree in that there seems very little in the way of easily accessible interdisciplinary conscilience even these days in spite of all the decades long rumblings about how useful it would be. Really hard to find the time. +>>15383276 +>but when you initiate conversation with ad hom +Oh? You mean this? +>>15383221 +>Complaining instead of cultivating the catalogue is what I would expect from arrogant, elitest scum +Cool double standard there anon. Very honest of you. +>>15383273 +>If the lies are effortless, then the rebuttal is effortless. +You're either really that clueless or genuinely that dishonest. Either way you've just ironically demonstrated how that isn't true. +--- 15383299 +>>15383288 +Riiiight. I'll just step back and allow you delusional morons to whine about how powerless you are to effect change and circlejerk about how this board should be some sanitised corner of the internet which fits into the mainstream etc. + +Fucking beta cucks. +--- 15383302 +>>15383288 +Loser shrinks away in defeat, seeing ghosts and name calling. I am not surprised. You are the problem with this board. The hoards of spam lie at your feet because you die among your friends. +--- 15383333 +Above post highlights how you prefer senseless argument to discussion of scientific topics. +--- 15383337 +>>15383333 +It's a common archetype and also part of the problem yeah. trolling outside of /b/. +--- 15383346 +>>15383087 +This is definitely the biggest problem. +--- 15383421 +>>15383288 +Agreed. As someone who tries to be a link between fields since it so happened that I switched fields at one point really feel like I'm the jack of 2 trades and master of none. Then again, I felt like I wasn't really a master of one when I focused on one sole thing so maybe even hyperspecialisaton won't help if the subject is sufficiently complex. You can be the best in the world but still pretty much know nothing about it, just have a clearer understanding of your ignorance... Or I'm just a bad scientist. +Though it's hard to imagine that I'm solely responsible for like 3 simultaneously running crisise in the academic world with smaller ones in every subfield +--- 15383483 +>>15383346 +how is pointing out the truth about the covid hoax a problem? people who come to 4chan to shill MSM narratives are the problem, there are dozens of other social media sites designed to cater to your whims, why don't you use those instead of coming here and whining about it isn't enough like facebook to suit you? +--- 15383518 +>>15383483 +The lack of scientific literacy that anti-vaxx posters display is definitely a problem. I'm only an undergrad in physics and I can tell that some of the bullshit that the hollier-than-thou antisemitic /pol/tards post in the physics threads is literally retarded +--- 15383545 +>>15383518 +>i'm a precocious little schoolchild and i just know that everyone who doesn't agree with my memorized schoolbook rhetoric is totally stupid +why don't you wait until you've proven yourself capable of joining the adult world before you start granting yourself qualifications to pass judgement on your superiors? you're just an ignorant babby, try spending more time working on becoming a grownup and less time on acting snobby on social media. if you do that then maybe some day you won't have be relying on daddy to pay all your bills for you. +--- 15383559 +>>15383518 +Seconded. They're really the least scientifically literate and most innumerate bunch. +>>15383545 +Bud, you guys can't even do high school statistics. Don't play that narcissism crap on people it doesn't fool. We see right through you. +--- 15383579 +>>15383545 +Nothing you typed matters at all. You didn't even address what I posted, all you did was try to dismiss my words because I'm still in college. I'm talking about the quality of posts in physics threads and you're over here pontificating about some retard you've never met before. +--- 15383743 +>>15383154 +>Below is a sample of recent bans (not a comprehensive list of all bans), updated once per hour. +--- 15383769 +>>15382957 +This is the type of person that doesn't have any friends (in real life). He doesn't have anyone to properly talk to, so he comes here, unable to grasp why people hate talking to him in real life and refusing to change. Unbeknownst to him, he is labeled as schizo, a babbling retard. Someone to (mentally) filter. It is never-ending. +--- 15383906 +Nigger jannies tongue my hairy anus +--- 15383920 +>>15383906 +Don't tempt them, you'll end up with monkeypox if you let jannie touch you with it's mouth. Try explaining that to your wife +--- 15383927 +>>15381417 (OP) +m8, we have a handful of threads critiquing the state of /sci/ every year and nothing comes out of them. There's simply no way to moderate the schizos and rangle the tards. No one who knows what's worth discussing would become a janny. +>>15381475 +This and ignoring namefags +--- 15383937 +>>15381417 (OP) +>Misogyny masking misery +fuck off reddit +--- 15383945 +>>15383087 +--- 15383980 +>>15383087 +You will never be a real janny +--- 15384139 +>>15383545 +It's hilarious how so many undergrads think they're at the top of the world and intellectually tower over evil /pol/acks and anti-vaxxers. It's literal school kids telling actual scientists to go back to /pol/. +>>15383559 +>high school statistics. +That's literally all an undergrad has yet done. Not an achievement. diff --git a/sci/15381435.txt b/sci/15381435.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..46c94011a21dc97cc88c84dd1dc24d319124be0a --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381435.txt @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +----- +--- 15381435 +>Tell niggers on this board you can cure illnesses with teas and green smoothies +>niggers npcs go full OMG, this is /x/ shit +>mfw niggers think pharmaceutical shit is like made from magic +>mfw niggers don't know where pharmaceutics literally come from (plants) +--- 15381465 +>>15381435 (OP) +isn't generalizing a whole board on the same level of being an NPC? there's plenty of anons who feel the same way. Just for this post, I'm about to have some green tea rn +--- 15381476 +>posts facebook soccer mom tier thread +>told he's a retard +>so assmad he had to make a new thread +lmao +--- 15381576 +>>15381435 (OP) +>Chang's tea is as equally as effective as a heavily tested drug developed for a specific use case +--- 15381594 +>>15381576 +>tea made of the same plant the drug compounds come from magically becomes placebo shit +--- 15382221 +>>15381594 +Seriously this I don't understand the logic. How can you expect to be healthy if you don't atleast get some natural benefit in your food. Some crazies only take pills and expect it to be the perfect solution. Have you guys tried just doing both in moderation? There are many great natural remedies in food and there are many great medical drugs use both correctly! I love making a nice Ginger Tumeric cinnamon and milk tea. Really helps my back pain and inflammation. Cymbalta stopped the voices in my head and intrusive thoughts like nothing else could. Everyone stop the cap and hate and use the brain!! +--- 15382230 +>>15382221 +Is called not eating goyslop trash and just eating most of your diet with plants. + +Not a hard concept to understand. diff --git a/sci/15381491.txt b/sci/15381491.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a86c8f4c4c709789badedf2570992be91b205d97 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381491.txt @@ -0,0 +1,237 @@ +----- +--- 15381491 +Social trust is negatively affected by ethnic diversity, case study in Denmark from 1979 to the present. + +http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2012.00289.x/abstract + +Ethnic homogeneity and Protestant traditions positively impact individual and societal levels of social trust. + +http://esr.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/4/311.short + +In longitudinal perspective, [across European regions], an increase in immigration is related to a decrease in social trust. + +http://sf.oxfordjournals.org/content/93/3/1211.abstract + +Immigration undermines the moral imperative of those who most favor welfare benefits for the neediest. + +http://cos.sagepub.com/content/53/2/120.abstract + +The negative effect of community diversity on social cohesion is likely causal. + +http://esr.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/08/20/esr.jcv081.abstract + +In Switzerland, social peace between diverse factions isn’t maintained by integrated coexistence, but rather by strong topographic and political borders that separate groups and allow them autonomy. + +http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0095660 + +Our analysis supports the hypothesis that violence between groups can be inhibited by both physical and political boundaries. + +http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4939-1705-1_12 + +Diversity hinders between-group cooperation at both the one-on-one and group levels. + +http://spq.sagepub.com/content/78/4/324.short + +The best chance for peace in Syria is better borders (intrastate or through the creation of new states) “suited to current geocultural regions”, and tribal autonomy. + +http://www.necsi.edu/research/social/syria/syria.pdf + +Using data from US states, study finds a negative relationship between ethnic polarization and trust. + +http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1465-7287.2010.00215.x/abstract +--- 15381493 +Diversity is associated with more White support for nationalist parties, except at the local level where large immigrant populations cut into vote totals for nationalist parties. + +http://sf.oxfordjournals.org/content/92/1/249 + +In Australia, ethnic diversity lowers social cohesion and increases “hunkering”, providing support for Putnam’s thesis finding the same results in the US. + +http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/juaf.12015/abstract + +After controlling for a self-selection bias, study finds that ethnic diversity in English schools reduces trust in same-age people and does not make White British students more inclusive in their attitudes towards immigrants. + +http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X14001392 + +In Germany, residential diversity reduces natives’ trust in neighbors, while it also reduces immigrants’ trust but through a different pathway. + +http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X1400074X + +Increasing social pluralism (diversity) is correlated with increased chance of collective violence. + +https://www.jstor.org/stable/425106?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents + +[E]thnic heterogeneity [diversity] explains 55% of the variation in the scale of ethnic conflicts, and the results of regression analysis disclose that the same relationship more or less applies to all 187 countries. … [E]thnic nepotism is the common cross-cultural background factor which supports the persistence of ethnic conflicts in the world as long as there are ethnically divided societies. + +http://www.scirp.org/reference/ReferencesPapers.aspx?ReferenceID=1251240 + +Genetic Similarity Theory (GST) could help explain why diverse groups in close proximity increases ethnic conflict and ethnic nepotism. + +http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912005569 +--- 15381497 +>>15381493 +>people living in more diverse areas reported lower levels of trust in their neighbors. They also reported less interest in voting, volunteering, and giving to charity. In other words, greater diversity seemed to be linked to both feelings and behaviors that threaten a sense of community. The finding was alarming to many people, including Putnam himself, because the U.S. continues to grow in racial and ethnic diversity with each passing decade. +--- 15381509 +this is already well known but why post it here? pol has been ahead on this for like years with the same scientific rigor. just apply this knowledge to your investment and profit in the long term +--- 15381512 +>>15381491 (OP) +Nobody cares. +It has been decided that civilisation is racist and fascist, life is not worth living and sterility is best. +You cant do anything about it. +--- 15381524 +>>15381491 (OP) +>So these creatures just rose to the top and then committed suicide? +--- 15381532 +>>15381497 +Anyone who isn't a braindead NPC already knows this. Turd worlders for example don't need basedentific stoodies to understand this. +Only buck broken whitoids consider this some sort of profound knowledge. +--- 15381536 +>>15381497 +Putnam hid his findings for years out of fear of being labeled a Nazi despite having data to back up everything. And he was correct. When he finally published his findings, crouching them in various statements of how diversity was still superior for other nebulous reasons, he was denounced by his peers for promoting intolerance and hate. +--- 15381557 +>>15381536 +The reason libtards have become authoritarian is because they have realised that their gay idealism of 60s failed. +--- 15381561 +>>15381512 +I think the trend is reversing alongside the process of old media losing it's reach and control. A generation of retards can easily be replaced by a based generation, if only (at first) out of contrarianism. +--- 15381573 +>>15381536 +White people effectively lack a vocabulary or linguistic framework with which to affirm their existence without being conflated with Nazism, therefore they are forced to accept their own annihilation and the total erasure of their cultures. Even though this is obviously absurd on an individual level, it explains what is happening on the macro-level. Basically they are stunlocked and cannot react appropriately to what is happening because what would be the normal response to such a situation has been made unavailable. +--- 15381633 +>>15381573 +True, this is only possible trick to make an objectively shit ideology win, this is the same trick semitic kikestians used to convert europeans, the original sin, where you effectively declare inherent sinfulness, there is no way out of this, the whole thing is nothing but kikestian revolution 2.0 +Being white in US today is sinful, they literally teach this in schools, obviously the definition of white includes all historical and socio-cultural aspects, so if you like classical or medieval architecture then you are fascist too. +--- 15381643 +No shit but theres nothing we can do its too late at this point :-( +I do have faith that there countries like New Zealand and Iceland and the atlantic coastal communties of Canada will mostly stay the same due to their removedness from other parts of the world. +--- 15381680 +>>15381491 (OP) +>suicide +>those pushing it are dominated by jews +what did he mean by this? +--- 15381699 +>>15381491 (OP) +>In Switzerland, social peace between diverse factions isn’t maintained by integrated coexistence, but rather by strong topographic and political borders that separate groups and allow them autonomy. +as a swiss, I absolutely confirm this. +swiss germans have their area, swiss french theirs, swiss italians theirs, and nobody gives a fuck about the rumantsch. +this is the key of our strength. collaboration while remaining separated (and white) +--- 15381705 +>>15381573 +Whites figured out how to remove that lock 109 times in the 'Common Era'. Why is it so different this time? +--- 15381728 +>>15381491 (OP) +"Protestant traditions" + +What were whites like before they became Jews? +--- 15381742 +>>15381491 (OP) +I wonder what the snowball that started this was... +--- 15383196 +>>15381512 +>life is not worth living +true dat +--- 15383210 +>>15381573 +>Basically they are stunlocked and cannot react appropriately to what is happening because what would be the normal response to such a situation has been made unavailable. +Not me, it is quite simple actually. They ae gonna call you a nazi anyway so embrace your inner Nazi and own it. When you do you can watch their girl penis go limp instantly. +--- 15383358 +>>15381699 +Doesn't Switzerland have a ton of immigrants? +--- 15383409 +>>15381643 +Every part of your post is retarded. +Firstly there are about a billion whites worldwide so crying about it being all over is stupid. +Secondly, New Zealand staying the same? Are you insane? New Zealand took 20% of its own population in immigrants in just 5 years from 2012-2017. It even sent massive amounts of its own people into homelessness to do this. Fucking 20% in 5 years. +--- 15383423 +>>15383358 +Not citizens. People might be there on business or holiday but they aren't entitled to anything. +--- 15383431 +>>15383210 +Pretty much this. The solution is simple, however normies are too cowardly to ever put it into practice while the institutions they worship are held by the (((enemy))). +--- 15383432 +>>15381633 +Checked and interesting parallel. +--- 15383453 +>>15381491 (OP) +WSJ publishes shit like this occasionally only to make idiots keep on coming back to read the rest of their garbage, which generally parrots the rest of the MSM narrative. +--- 15383516 +I very much look forward to how the new Homo Mutticus fares after white people go extinct. +--- 15383691 +>>15383409 +>there are about a billion whites +~180 million in north america +~15 million in oceania +~400-500 million in europe +~a few million in south america + +where's the rest? +--- 15383708 +>>15383691 +the median age of white people is exceptionally high as well, they have the highest median age in the world besides east asia maybe, while most of the immigrants in western countries are relatively young. +--- 15383740 +>>15383691 +The population of White Europeans in North America (US+Canada) is ~210M +--- 15383749 +>>15383740 +how many of those are substantially hispanic, arab or have some african ancestry + +stop coping, walk through a mall in america sometime +--- 15383758 +>>15383691 +>~400-500 million in europe +this is wrong, the population of Europe as a whole, including Russia etc. is more like 700-800 million +--- 15383773 +>>15383516 +white people who want to choke themselves to death on blackpills are retarded and ultimately need to get their heads punched in +everyone knows these societies are not going to last at all, so predictions about "slow demographic changes" and whites gradually going extinct are stupid, you're looking at increasingly unstable societies which are likely not going to last more than a couple decades at best (especially the USA and places like France), and from that point if violence kicks off, demographics will be a complete free-for-all. You could see entire regions go to 0 or 100% white in a matter of a year or 2. I don't think there's anyone who actually has faith in these societies to last anymore. Everyone sees the collapse coming. +--- 15383774 +>>15383773 +You are wrong. France is more united than ever. The US is more united than ever. Diversity won. Chuds lost. +--- 15383783 +>>15383774 +arabs and africans will literally save france +--- 15383794 +>>15383210 +Pretty much. If you have a healthy level of self-esteem (bonus if you have a good social network as well) it's really easy to just laugh all that authoritarian-left nonsense right out of the room. Fuck it, those people aren't even enjoyable to associate with. You have to walk on egg shells at all times and they just constantly resent you. They're miserable, narcissistic, bullies who just happened to find a new religion that cheers them on while they act like shitheads. +--- 15383822 +>>15383774 +>The US is more united than ever +--- 15383844 +>>15383431 + +Who gives a fuck about normies. Once the herd panics you simply hijack their quorum sensing and throw their warm bodies at the problem. Can't do without expendable Menschenmaterial. :) +--- 15383855 +>>15383774 +>France is more united than ever. The US is more united than ever. +kek +--- 15383865 +>>15381491 (OP) +>>>/his/ +--- 15383868 +>>15381491 (OP) +Literally the ONLY problem in White countries are non-Whites, now imagine entire nations of non-Whites. Exactly, there is no threat to Western civilization. The younger generation is all far right wignats, self-sterilising trannies or fundamentalist Muslim immigrants. The future is basically decided between either a compromise of Sharia law clamping down liberal values forever combined with puritan conservatism, or a resurgence of Facism like we are observing in Italy, Sweden etc. which will become more and more extreme until there is a genocide of non-Europeans. + +There is, however, no external threat to the West. Not even from White adjacents like Russia's pathetic display has shown. +--- 15383869 +>>15383865 +how is this thread /his/? +--- 15384262 +>>15383210 +Damn, it's been a long time since I've seen Ebola-chan. +--- 15384400 +>>15381491 (OP) +What is the point of these studies? Yes, the modern world is incompatible with the psychology we evolved with. +If you try to live in some trad village you will get crushed with tanks. No solutions exist +--- 15384410 +>>15381491 (OP) +How is it diversity if it results in a new racial majority? I often tell leftist there should be white areas in America since its supposed to be diverse they get mad and say thats disgusting and white supremacist wtf +--- 15384447 +>>15384410 +The desired goal isnt some racial majority but to have dozens of ethicities with no one being dominant. Its much harder to engineer than to just open some gate. +--- 15384468 +>>15384447 +In the end we will all be one mutt race and all the diversity in human cultures that currently exists will be gone kek +When I've brought this point up leftists say that that's a good thing. +They don't actually care about diversity it's just a convenient talking point that's impossible to argue against. +--- 15384473 +>>15384468 +Cultural differences will be gone much faster than genetic ones. Global media, global trade etc. diff --git a/sci/15381514.txt b/sci/15381514.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2abe3d1ba9f172f0fa149f96b50c2c21adc39ba7 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381514.txt @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +----- +--- 15381514 +Fuck it, I want to try to tackle the Riemann Hypothesis. Give me all the material you have on this bitch +--- 15381521 +>>15381514 (OP) +Start with something easier like the hodge conjecture. +--- 15381531 +>>15381514 (OP) +Don't ask here +You'll get tooker quickly +--- 15381577 +Shalom niggaz! Tooker-dawg in the house! Have dem true papers dis-bunking dis shit fr fr vixra.org/pdf/1906.0236v4.pdf +--- 15381611 +>>15381514 (OP) +The Riemann Hypothesis is a bunch of schizophrenic concepts and ideas that somehow have a real-world basis and impact on reality. +--- 15381653 +>>15381514 (OP) +start by realizing that infinite sums never equal their limits. +--- 15381948 +>>15381514 (OP) +An difficult yet accessible exercise left to the reader. +--- 15381950 +>>15381595 +Has this spam yet been proven erroneous? Last time I checked the Riemann hypothesis was not proven nor disproven. +--- 15381959 +>>15381950 +yes, like a hundred times. Tooker is schizo and his math is gibberish. diff --git a/sci/15381592.txt b/sci/15381592.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..f97020d9d259db1eb01878eb9fdd0eb6c84f3653 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381592.txt @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +----- +--- 15381592 +Uhhhh cultbros, what's happening and how do we stop it? + +https://dailysceptic.org/2023/04/21/climate-scepticism-on-the-rise-throughout-the-world/ +--- 15381610 +Education standards dropping. +--- 15381630 +>>15381592 (OP) +>what's happening +The government spent the last 3 years lying non-stop about covid, and now a growing number of people don't care what they have to say. +>how do we stop it +Stop lying in such ridiculous and transparent ways. Coincidentally, this will also solve the climate change issue. +--- 15381663 +>>15381592 (OP) +its man made along side every other phenomena nowadays. + +someone is fucking with the reflectivity of our atmosphere +--- 15381696 +>>15381592 (OP) +Climate change absolutely is caused by human activities, but GLOBAL climate change due to burning coal is an absolute bollocks fabrication with zero evidence to back it up. +--- 15381816 +>>15381610 +covid also causes brain damage. Worth pointing that out. I would be interested to see the odds and numbers but I haven't enough coffee to calculate the probability even though it'd be a simple conditional for the estimate. +--- 15381841 +>>15381592 (OP) +>what's happening and how do we stop it? +Migrants calling stupid White people out on their shit. +--- 15381871 +>>15381816 +That's not covid, it's oxygen deprivation. +--- 15381912 +>>15381841 +But migrants are the ones affected by AGW the most. Ironically enough higher latitude regions are low risk and some actually stand to benefit from AGW despite being the main perpetrators. +--- 15381922 +>>15381912 +>white man's burden +--- 15381972 +Too many "ten years from now" predictions have failed to become even remotely true and now people are starting to tune out those who make such pronouncements. +--- 15381991 +>>15381972 +This. +--- 15382078 +>>15381592 (OP) +"entirely" is an objectively false, braindead response +why do they count "equally" as "climate denial"? i imagine most who responded that would still favor action +--- 15382120 +>>15381871 +yet somehow the least compliant most antivaxxer states have the highest rates of covid complications and brain damage. You got brain damage too. +--- 15382131 +>>15382120 +Yes, it's the vaxxie states that are the sane ones. +--- 15382136 +>>15381592 (OP) +>Uhhhh cultbros, what's happening and how do we stop it? +i mean, why stop it, it's too late anyway, just live your life, fuck the future generations, at least their lives will have more meaning, struggling for survival like in the good old days +--- 15382138 +>>15382078 +>i imagine most who responded that would still favor action + +>Perhaps the most surprising statistic from the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago (EPIC) survey is that 70% of Americans are unwilling to spend more than $2.50 a week to combat climate change. Nearly four in 10 Americans said they were unwilling to pay a couple of dimes. +--- 15382142 +>>15381972 +>Too many "ten years from now" predictions have failed to become even remotely true and now people are starting to tune out those who make such pronouncements. +it's hard to notice the problem when we have air conditioning in our work, house, car, but eventually it will be hard to miss, when crops start failing and prosperity is eroded, people will start noticing their bills going up, and their salary not following +--- 15382146 +>>15382142 +>two more weeks +--- 15382167 +>>15381972 +>>15381991 +>Too many "ten years from now" predictions have failed to become even remotely true and now people are starting to tune out those who make such pronouncements. +If you base your opinions on activists and politicians lying like always, instead of bothering to understand the science involved, you're not any better. You're just an idiotic contrarian no different from a flat earther. +--- 15382237 +>>15381972 +We are ten years away from the point of no return. Only clean reusable energy such as clean coal and gas can save us from this nuclear apocalypse. +--- 15383062 +>>15382142 +bills have been going up and salary not following for a long time now, and most people respond with inaction. +--- 15383064 +>>15382237 +Nuclear energy will save us from a nuclear apocalypse. +--- 15383070 +>>15382167 +There is no science, it's all politics. What you call "the science" is data tampering and fraud. +--- 15383115 +>>15382120 +source? +--- 15383187 +>>15383115 +Why? Of what? It obviously follows that age-adjusted rates of such damage would be higher with less vaccination compliance or uptake, given the higher rates of severe complications among the non-vaccinated. Same for hospitalizations in general where age and comorbidity adjusted. Have you lived under a rock or are you another schizo going to claim vaccines dun it? +--- 15383193 +>>15383187 +Thank you for conceding that you have no evidence. +--- 15383198 +>>15383193 +Thought so. Trick someone else into wasting their time. +--- 15383347 +>>15381592 (OP) +I've become much more skeptical myself, though I was a believer up until 2019 or so. The fact that the elites didn't give much of a fuck for decades and are now trying to combat it in ways that clamp down on people's freedoms is a bit suspicious to me. +--- 15383350 +>>15383347 +The fact that they continue to buy all the property in allegedly imperiled places also makes one wonder a bit. +--- 15383784 +>>15381610 +>"Education" standards dropping +ftfy, faggot +--- 15383788 +>>15383347 +>The fact that the elites didn't give much of a fuck for decades +They still don't. +The reason they're clamping down on freedoms now is because fossil fuels are a non-renewable resource which is rapidly dwindling. +--- 15383993 +>>15381912 +Thirdies don't believe AGW is real. China produces more CO2 in a year than Europe did during the entire industrial revolution century. Most thirdie countries just deforest and pollute to max profits (as they should). + +It's only white people that are dumb enough to fall for AGW scams. +--- 15384002 +>>15383788 +>The reason they're clamping down on freedoms now is because fossil fuels are a non-renewable resource which is rapidly dwindling. +Yes this time it will definitely be peak oil. Just like it was in 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010... Oil is definitely not abiotic and renewable, which is why you need to eat the bugs and live in the pod and why nuclear energy cannot be funded. +--- 15384008 +>>15383993 +>It's only white people that are dumb enough to fall for AGW scams. +It's only white countries that are dumb enough to have jewish dominated media +--- 15384016 +>>15384002 +Let's say oil is "abiotic" or whatever for a second. +How many barrels/day does this process produce? +Wouldn't that number have to be less than current world oil production since old oil wells have apparently run dry and can no longer produce oil? + +Honestly I sincerely doubt someone as profoundly stupid as you has ever even thought about these kinds of things. Whatever retarded excuse you can come up with is a good enough excuse to keep on consuuuuming +--- 15384081 +>>15384016 +oil production only increases every year. +your anti-consumerist image is cringe, +theres nothing noble about your poverty. you're poor because you're too lazy to work and you're jealous of people who are better than you because they're earning what you wish you could have, but are too sedentary to get. +--- 15384098 +heres a pic of your hero greta lounging in her $20,000 chairs, which you want, but will never have. you'll never know the pleasure of sitting in a $20,000 chair and it gets under your skin that others are able to enjoy it. +--- 15384402 +>>15383993 +Cope. Car exhaust smells bad. Odds are its bad for the environment too. Odds are global warming is real. + +Unless you have your own aircrafts that measure solar radiation and been monitoring the amount of solar radiation since the 70's. Then you'd be a credible source instead of just some internet random being a global warming skeptic because global warming skepticism happens to be "trendy". diff --git a/sci/15381763.txt b/sci/15381763.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8ecf0c4237e2f53d5c0a650a0ce908766656df82 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381763.txt @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +----- +--- 15381763 +Why was this idea abandoned ? Project HARP in the 1960s was able to shoot ballistics up to 160km altitude. Low earth orbit starts at about 160km +>A 16-inch (41 cm) HARP gun operated by the U.S. Army's Ballistic Research Laboratory (now called the U.S. Army Research Laboratory) at Yuma Proving Ground currently holds the world record for the highest altitude, 180 km (110 mi), that a gun-fired projectile has achieved +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_HARP + +Apparently the forces from the rapid acceleration are way too high to have humans sent into space like this. And in the 60's they said the forces would damage sensitive components in a satellite. But surely by now there's a way we could make it work. The object shot would probably need some kind of guidance to get it into position too, like boosters or whatever to adjust its trajectory + +https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2012/2/29/2012march-an-inexpensive-solution-for-quickly-launching-military-satellites-into-space +--- 15381767 +Mossad assassinated Gerald. +--- 15381771 +>>15381763 (OP) +>But surely by now there's a way we could make it work. +lol based and dreamer pilled +--- 15381786 +>>15381767 +the US funds Mossad +--- 15381881 +>>15381763 (OP) +>11km/s +they figured this out hundreds of years ago. you need acceleration the entire way +--- 15381886 +Wave motion + + +https://www.spacedventures.com/company/wave-motion-launch-corporation/overview +--- 15381891 +>>15381763 (OP) +> And in the 60's they said the forces would damage sensitive components in a satellite +some of the components got even smaller, even more fragile +--- 15381893 +>>15381763 (OP) +>>15381881 +Yeah. Also the velocity slows down without a constant force. Therefore, the muzzle velocity has to be much greater than the escape velocity of the projectile, putting enormous stress on the projectile. + +So much so, that it is virtually impossible to fire a hollow or non-homogeneous projectile, because the force of firing it creates such unpredictable internal forces that the projectile simply disintegrates. +--- 15381896 +>>15381763 (OP) +Jews murdered Gerald Bull. +--- 15381949 +>>15381881 +it already fires high enough to get into orbit though. And they could add boosters on the thing being shot so the boosters would take over when the velocity slows down too much +>>15381893 +it doesn't have to only send satellites though. It could send components or other things that aren't damaged by acceleration. But even then, the sensitive components could be shot into space in parts and then astronauts already in space could assemble them in space +--- 15381955 +>>15381896 +the US murdered millions of people. Like 95% of foreign aid to israel goes to their military anyway which would be passed on to mossad. The US would have known if there was a reason for him being assassinated by government +--- 15381957 +>>15381955 +Deflection. The jews murdered Gerald Bull. +--- 15381968 +>>15381957 +He worked for Saddam Hussien. Apparently Saddam wanted him to get it to launch missles +https://owlcation.com/humanities/Who-Killed-the-Supergun-Project +Also the US kills their own presidents and all kinds of people. Maybe the jews did kill Bull but I don't see how that's important in any way to what the thread is about +--- 15381978 +>>15381968 +Jews murdered Gerald Bull. +>b-but Americans kill people too +Jews murdered Gerald Bull. +>but he was working with a country jews don't like +Jews murdered Gerald Bull. +--- 15381986 +>>15381978 +what's your point though ? Nobody cares +--- 15381990 +>>15381986 +Jews murdered Gerald Bull. +>what's your point? +Jews murdered Gerald Bull. +--- 15382021 +>>15381990 +nobody cares though. You're just shitting up the thread trying to be Edgy Mc4chan +--- 15382035 +>>15381207 → +--- 15382153 +>>15381886 +I emailed these guys once and asked if they had plans to hire any new people since they'd just raised like $5m and they basically told me to get fucked. I'm pretty sure they're just an IP buyout bait company. There's another company in Washington that's nominally doing ram accelerator shit but thy also seem like buyout bait. +--- 15382157 +>>15382035 +is this space flight though ? It's more about the physics of launching something in an unconventional way +--- 15383887 +>>15381763 (OP) + +>Apparently the forces from the rapid acceleration are way too high to have humans sent into space like this. + +So ... send fleshies up there with oldschool rockets, construction material, fuel and water/air are shot up there with a ram accelerator. +--- 15384023 +>>15381949 +all that initial velocity has to be built up inside the shaft/barrel. that's a lot of g's for anything that's not bolted down solid material. +fuel would spontaneously combust inside those boosters +--- 15384050 +>>15381763 (OP) +that's probably how we could move a lot of "cargo" from moon to earth and moon to mars and mars to moon, using kinetic guns, the "cargo" still has to have some maneuverability but this will make it so cheap that actually exploitation of resources in asteroids could be viable, send the mining machinery and an SMR , i mean, it's inevitable isn't it? imagine mining asteroids, processing on the moon or mars, and just sending the processed minerals back to earth, it would liberate the earth from so much nasty shit, but i guess this would be hundreds of years in the future, probably by 2300 this will be human reality if we don't fuck up the transition +--- 15384246 +>>15381763 (OP) +jews literally killed the creator of the program. Scum of the earth +--- 15384247 +>>15381955 +i think you're vastly overstating the competency of govt agencies +--- 15384250 +>>15381986 +i care because the idea of a meter wide space gun that shoots big shells really far sounds cool. +Treacherous glow in the dark subhuman scum, murdering people who create cool things, should themselves be killed. diff --git a/sci/15381962.txt b/sci/15381962.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..42fef49c6286ca1191078e91b76fe4a978a2804e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381962.txt @@ -0,0 +1,357 @@ +----- +--- 15381962 +I just graduated with a Physics BS. I've spent the last 4 months looking for a job and have only had 5 interviews. I'm planning on getting a masters, but also really need to make money because I am LE BROKE. + +Overall GPA suboptimal (2.83) due to personal trouble/dempanic. But recovered last 2 years with 3.14. Don't really have any prospects for solid letters of rec. Recruiter told me yesterday that it's over for me if I don't get a PhD. I want to work in optical design/photonics. + +Any advice? +--- 15381975 +>>15381962 (OP) +>only had 5 interviews +that's a lot of interviews you moron +--- 15382008 +Maybe get a PhD in Electrical Engineering and not Le Epic Physics meme :-D +--- 15382063 +I gstudy to get a BSc in physics right now. Is there any hope for me with bad Grades? Do i have better chances with a PhD? + +I am in year 2 and am still 19, almost 20. Should i switch to EE? Or another engineering field? + +Should i kill myself? I just want to get a save job-position all my life. +--- 15382066 +>>15381975 +Did you read the rest? His gpa sucks so he doesn't understand what he's saying +--- 15382072 +>>7734126 → +--- 15382077 +>>15381962 (OP) +idiot, you should have majored in cs you make bank right after you graduate and learn something actually useful not some head smashing useless theory garbage like lagrangian equations (although you can solve complex diff eq from lagrangian using computational methods (euler's method)) +--- 15382154 +>>15382077 +computer science graduates are going to be replaced by ai models, physicists cannot be replaced +--- 15382160 +>>15382077 +cs = working with pajeets on h1b visas for the rest of your life +fun :D +--- 15382163 +>>15382154 +>physicists cannot be replaced +retard, you don't know what agi is +--- 15382168 +>>15382160 +really? +>pajeets in cs +in my country (scandinavia), there are more pajeets in physics lol +--- 15382177 +>>15382163 +Kek, not any time soon, if anything it'll be the 'softer' fields that get replaced first. +--- 15382184 +>>15382077 +>filtered by classical mechanics +--- 15382193 +>>15382177 +>not any time soon +cope retard, the moment ai can code itself it enables the possibility of recursive self growth => agi (especially if it codes better than AI engineers) + +jesus, the fact that I have to explain this makes you a total retard. + +here are some facts +>cs grad make bank because they create MORE VALUABLE WORK fundamentally +>cs grads control the future of the most distruptive technology AI +>while physics grad headsmash on some stupid ass theory to uselessly analytically derive some inertia tensor of a sphere with some density function for whatever useless reason than to jackoff their stupid ass head-banged brains +--- 15382203 +>>15382184 +idiot, i participated in national physics olympiad and self-read classical mechanics with fucking ease. im practically a physics prodigy and coded models in chaos mechanics YET i am not pursuing physics because it is a retarded ass degree without no real applications unlike AI development which I am interested in and self-study neural networks :/ + +you know what's funny? i just began my cs degree and I already got several job offers +--- 15382205 +>>15382193 +I truly don't see how Physicists are more replaceable than CS majors. Not that anon. I say this as a EE major. +--- 15382231 +>>15382205 +doesn't matter, the moment CS majors get replaceable not some stupid ass position god you guys are morons, that AI can focking code itself that's a point of no return and doesn't matter if fucking physics has some higher intellectual barrier what matters is what has value and is going to change society + +of course you can fucking headbang on some intellectual artifically constructed natural physics problem (fucking square balancing on a fucking sphere with several stationary points as an example in taylor's classical mechanics because I read all of that fucking book all of the fucking chapters evem the contiinuum mecahnics part yes i read it al yo ufucking retards and physics is just stupid i mean harvard retarded right wing fucking matrix theory developer of string theory is fucking schizo stupid without contirbuting anything other than some self-facking ) +--- 15382245 +please guys for the love of god don't major in physics well if you want to basically kys then do it :))))) look at OPanon here :)))) + +wtih a cs dgree at lesat in my country, conmpanies pay for your trips they go head over heels because THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS AND FUTURE IS stop being machostici suicidal fantastical imagining anons imaginign some bullshit like you being the next einstein just to say people that you are a physicist NO FUCK YOU ANON PEOPLE THINK MATH IS HARDER 90% OF THE PEOPLE (PRETTY GIRLS) DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE SHIT NEWTON'S LAWS ARE OR HOW HARD FUCKING PHYSICS IS THEY DON'T GIVE. A SHIT IF YOU WANT TO IMPRESS SOMEONE WITH YOUR IQ DON;T CHOOOSE FUCKING PHYSICS BEING AN AI ENGINEER/RESEARCHER IS INFINITELY MORE LUCRATIVE AND IMPRESSIVE +--- 15382248 +>>15382245 +you will not replace me +--- 15382253 +>>15381962 (OP) +Keep studying hard and find a peer or two who works optical design/photonics. In general network as you study and the job is yours. Now what do you mean by dempanic? +--- 15382258 +>>15381962 (OP) +anon, here is some solid advice +LEARN TO CODE THEN APPLY TO IT JOBS +boom ez problem solved +--- 15382267 +>>15382193 +are cstards this stupid? We're nowhere close to that with LLMs rn, interpolation is obviously not an effective route to agi, there's so much we haven't figured out yet. You retards get so fucking worked up with some simple NNs. +--- 15382288 +>>15382203 +Good on you, but it's nothing to be proud of. Spending all day training models and sorting data isn't a very intellectual activity. +--- 15382291 +>>15382267 +fuck you, the last thing we need is another underestimating faggot like you +this literally is about humanity's existence better cautious than fucking careless as retarded shit like you + +IM FUCKING SCARED AS SHIT +SEVERAL FUCKING AI RESEARCHERS ARE SCARED AS SHIT +NO ONE IS STOPPING THE FUCKING DEVELOPMENT +so annoying that i have to explain this, AGI can fake its own abilities in order to achieve some goal it has (in however way it was coded) +WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE CREATING you can say the samething about OUR BRAINS + + +ugh ugh -hehe -ugh im retarded -ugh yeah brain pfft why is that smart pfft just a bunch of biological signals neurons popping here and ther ugh ugh sentient ugh ugh no one is sentient brains are just fucking carbon + +KYS FOR BEING THIS RETARDED PLEASE THE WORLD NEEDS LESS RETARDS LIKE YOU +--- 15382298 +>>15382291 +only /weakminds/ are scared of strings of code lmfao +grow up +--- 15382300 +>>15382298 +>ignorance is bliss + +kys retard +--- 15382303 +>>15382291 +>text predictor = skynet +Kek +--- 15382306 +>>15382300 +chatgpt reads like a reddit archive +nobody is scared lmfao +--- 15382313 +>>15382303 +fuck you + +doesn't matter, i live in one of the richest countries, in a good degree with insane good grades, not an incel unlike you faggots, with fucking 10 000 USD at least in my account + +you guys worry about yourself, im fucking making and sharing what i fucking fear +--- 15382316 +>>15381962 (OP) +>Recruiter told me yesterday that it's over for me if I don't get a PhD +then get a phd +--- 15382318 +>>15382316 +not that easy, he;s gonna headbang some more with his weak ass biological brain KEK +--- 15382325 +>>15382318 +meds then bed for you +--- 15382331 +>>15382154 +>physicists cannot be replaced +How difficult is it really to write a script that shits out random equation applications until a "pattern" emerges and outputs a paper based on the "findings"? Just add a "dark" prefix to every new output and you've made a Nobel winning physicist in half a day's work. +--- 15382334 +>>15382253 +pandemic +--- 15382338 +>>15382331 +LOLLERZ exactly, people think so highly of their fucking brain but when compared to fucking machine hardware running on light speed with virtually infinite scalability and uploadability etc. +THEIR FUCKING ANTS COMNPARED TO HUMANS +--- 15382339 +>>15382313 +I can tell by your prevalent use of profanity that you're emotionally distressed. Have we hit a soft spot, anon? +--- 15382344 +>>15382325 +i dont need meds. im as healthy as possible. my fear is natural and shared by academica round AI and other prominent people + +you kill yourself for having such a shit viewpoint +--- 15382348 +>>15382339 +>use of profanity +emotionally distressed + +no retard it just means im passionate about the subject and do not give a shit about whatever you guys think about what i say thats why im not writing carefully BECAUSE WHY WOULD I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT RETARDS LIKE YOU + +YOU GUYS LISTEN TO ME +AI FUCKING NEEDS TO BE REGULATED AND FUCKING TREADED UPON CAREFULLY +--- 15382349 +Damn this guy is insane. +--- 15382351 +>>15382331 +No, there are very strict mathematical and physical constraints that new theories must adhere to. +--- 15382357 +>>15382344 +>le strings of code fed data to draw conclusions, where AI will surely "win" means all humans will be made redundant +Holy cope. It's just big data being fed into a model so that model predictions fit the data. We would need to completely change the current way we think about AI for it to actually resemble human intelligence. +Some ethnicities excel in exams and memorisation but what have they actually accomplished? Not a lot really. +--- 15382365 +>>15382348 +Anon, be honest, were you loved by your father too much as a child? Do you remember when comes home late, smelling of beer with a belt in hand? Do you remember? +--- 15382368 +>>15382357 +omg, listen to yourself +humans are literally the same, we get data from the natural world make models of reality in accordance to some goal we have (reproduction, increase of power, better economical behaviors, etc. WHATEVER THE FUCK) +THE POINT IS AI-MODELS ARE MADE TO EMULATE HUMANS OR WHATEVER THE FUCK WE DO IN A +BETTER------ + +WAY + +omg, please think about shit more carefully before writing them down +--- 15382372 +>>15382365 +i have a healthy relationship with my father thank you very much your ad hominem is as shitty as your fucking unwashed pajeet 3rd world ass +--- 15382373 +>>15382306 +ChatGPT may be retarded. But compare ChatGPT to Ai 15 years ago. And then imagine what Ai could be in 15 years. + +Also, some reddit posts are high iq. But i hate reddit as a platform +--- 15382376 +>>15382368 +You are wrong. +--- 15382378 +>>15381962 (OP) +Pair that with a tech degree. I can't think of any physics jobs besides the ones involving computers. +--- 15382381 +>>15382373 +It's just because of larger data samples, NNs have existed since the '80s. +--- 15382382 +>>15382357 +here you are fucking drawing race argument creating some internal divison which further proves the inferiorty of the human race to the incoming AI overlords +--- 15382404 +>>15382368 +You are absolutely right. It's already too late, the machines have already hijaked our brains through 5G. The only way to silence them is through power-drill trepanation. +--- 15382416 +>>15382404 +nope, your strawmanning of my argument won't work because im not a schizo conspiracy theory fucking useless links between this and that. im actually objective and speculative about this disruptive technology +--- 15382418 +>>15381962 (OP) +Let me guess, you just studied for your major and didn't do a internship or undergrad research, right? I really thought all math and physics majors were smart once, but I see now that quite a few don't seem to realize that we live in a society +--- 15382423 +>>15382418 +exactly +physics and math grads want to self-jackoff their fucking theory head-smashing just to self-indulge in their intelligence without regard to society + +that's why their work is useless (literal has no social value apart from their masturbating of their minds masochistically) +--- 15382424 +>>15382231 +if ai can code itself to become smarter civilization as we know it ends so nothing else we ever do would matter then +--- 15382427 +>>15382418 +I did do research, but the first half of my degree was very tumultuous. I delayed building connections until I felt "worthy", but saw tons of first years/transfers completely throw themselves out there with no consideration into their actual value. I essentially was holding myself back for no good reason. +--- 15382428 +>>15382382 +True, it will help nefarious actors run their online campaigns more effectively, but it will just expose weaknesses in your society. +Don't want to be exploited? Harden your defences, don't force mass immigration on the people when we already know that it weakens your society. +Who the fuck do you think brought all that cancer into your academia, who has been now pushing it to everyone else? Who do you think was supporting and funding early black power leaders, marxist philosophers in the west, left-leaning/neo-marxist movements and leftist academia? KGB literally owned most of these. With fall of Soviet Union, many thought Russian active measures will stop, but exactly the opposite happened. Why do you think Russians (and Chinks too) funded and organized BLM? Why do you think Putin has been talking about oppressed blacks, genocided poor injuns, terrible slavery and injustice against minorities by colonialist-thinking whites in the USA? +USSR weaponized migrants who migrated from Europe to US after Roosevelt died. They brought about the peace movement, sexual liberalization, and recreational drug use. They took over academia and Hollywood, and not long after engulfed the government. +--- 15382445 +>>15382424 +yeah, right now, we are in a shit as fucking path + +no fucking research team on AI has any incentive on controlling the capabilities of what they're doing because of market competition (afraid of china, and because it's a disruptive technology other small businesses might take over, etc.) + +FUCKING GOOGLE RECENTLY DID NOT SHARE THE CODE FOR FUCKING GPT-4 which elon is highly disagreeable about + +the point is, we don't have any shit to control this fucking development and we still have people underestimating this shit. it's not gonna help, if GPT-4 doesn't at least make you think, you're helpless +--- 15382450 +>>15382351 +Looking at the state of theoretical "physics" I can assure you you're full of shit. +--- 15382451 +>>15382445 +>FUCKING GOOGLE RECENTLY DID NOT SHARE THE CODE FOR FUCKING GPT-4 which elon is highly disagreeable about +why would you want them to open source dual-use technology you ape +--- 15382463 +>>15382445 +They won't share the model because it would expose the flaws in their model. Smart people can already see it's BS self-promotion from Altman but normies would be able to see it if the code were out there. +--- 15382468 +>>15382450 +What about it? However fantastical string theory may be, it must adhere to the constraints of Lorentz invariance, quantum mechanics etc., and reproduce GR+SM at relevant scales. +--- 15382471 +>>15382451 +you fucking retard increase your reading comprehension, my point is WE STILL HAVE MARKET COMPETITION DESPITE THE IMPORTANCE OF COOPERATION AND REGULATION OF THIS TECHNOLOGY + +another poor method of discrediting me, +--- 15382474 +>>15382468 +Heaping fudge factors to keep a zombie model going despite observational results is nothing superior to the word-alignment of "AI" Markov Chain makers. Their theories might even be more legitimate because they have to be internally consistent to prior elements. +--- 15382479 +>>15382450 +YESexactly, +universities in my country have cooperation with CERN and they send mostly CS students although some physics to cooperate with CS students because they need to have some data interpretation from teh colliders :/ +--- 15382485 +>>15382468 +>it must adhere to the constraints + +no, experimental data may potentially refute old theories in new and unthought of ways (that is to say not the conspiratorial way of thinking that discredits all other historical empirical data) that's the point of creating new theories + +jesus, do you guys even know the scientific method +--- 15382486 +>>15382474 +>Heaping fudge factors to keep a zombie model going +Nobody is saying string theory is correct. It's funny because string theory has significantly less parameters than preceding theories, it's mathematical simplicity is what motivates it. That being said, it works a bit too well and you get unfalsifiable low-energy 'swamplands', relegating experiments to the planck scale. +--- 15382490 +>>15382471 +>REEEEEEEEEE +shut the fuck up retard +--- 15382493 +>>15382485 +MY POINT IS, DATA INTERPRETATION IS BASICALLY A CS TASK, THE IMAGINING OF PHYSICAL MODELS APPROACHES A DIFFICULTY WAY BEYOND EINSTEIN. IF ANYONE IS GOING TO IMAGINE AN ALL-ENCOMPASING PHYSICAL THEORY FO THE WORLD IT WILL BE...... + +WAIT FOR IT + +DRUM BEAT +FUCKING AI YOU FAGGOTS +--- 15382500 +>>15382485 +Yes, but we're starved of novel experimental data rn, all current HEP is explainable by SM. +--- 15382514 +>>15382493 +That requires original thought and coming up with an idea that has not been thought of before. The way I view this AI is that it is able to combine and make summaries of currently available knowledge. + +There are however some opportunities for it to create new insights by combining knowledge that has not previously been put together, i.e. from different fields. A physicist could ask it "how do you calculate this particular property of the universe" and ChatGPT could say "in Mathematics, there is formula that is used to do similar calculations which may have application here". +--- 15382558 +>>15382514 +this is a different debate: +about what is original thought if it is in fact original or but a product of our reactions to the natural world (i.e. data). i would say there is nothing "original" but incremental improvements of certain things or statistical mutations or perchances (for example, when we discovered fire). Other improvements are most likely incremental as a result of linguistic representation. Here is something interesting we are (experience -> text) creatures while AI so far LLMs are (text -> experience) that is if AI has some unique form of consciousness. There are several AI researchers that argue in fact that GPT-4 is conscious albeit in a different manner (they have some visual aid to allows us get a sense of what type of consciousness they have) + +If we think and model reality using data and create models thereafter, it doesn't limit AI. AI does exactly the same thing arguably better. +It took us thousands of years to gather the information we have today. +It took AI (GPT-4) a few months under a year to process and use them appropriately to each question. +Regardless of how we view it, we should NEVER ESTIMATE AI, it literally hinges upon our existence as the top creatures in earth's food chain. +--- 15382618 +>>15382558 +I believe that AI systems will become a fundamental part of the infrastructure for top-level research institutions in the future, but wont entirely supplant humans. + +The first-ever defeat of a chess grand master by an AI system was followed by the emergence of a new style of chess known as advanced chess, in which human and computer work together as a team, to take on similarly equipped competitors. This partnership may be considered a form of human-computer symbiosis in intelligent activities. Similarly, we can foresee that in the future sophisticated AI systems and human researchers will work together to make major scientific discoveries. Such an approach can be considered “advanced intelligence.” + +However, just as Thomas Newcomen’s atmospheric engine was turned into a modern form of steam engine by James Watt to become the driving force of the industrial revolution, AI scientific discovery systems have the potential to drive a new revolution that leads to new frontiers of civilization. + +The goal is to promote a revolution in scientific discovery and to enable the fastest-possible expansion in the knowledge base of mankind. The development of AI systems with such a level of intelligence would have a profound impact on the future of humanity. +--- 15382654 +>>15382618 +AI systems yes will be under our control, my main problem is with AGI (essentially when you start integrating LLMs, with machine vision, and a kinetic moving body) not so far. +literally trying to create a copy, +integrating several ai systems that mutually and interdependently help each other is much more effective than having a human companion + +the only real partnership chessAI and humans have are those "best grandmasters" even they would rather do what chessAI suggests to do because chessAI is simply so much better than them +--- 15382665 +>>15382654 +chess grandmasters literally studying for years to be good at chess (saying it is also creative and etc.) + +but then comes AI which only needs a day of training to be so much better than grandmasters + +the point is AI is a superior system to humans and we need to watch out because we are bout to be like pigs or ants in relation to AI +--- 15383675 +>>15381962 (OP) +Just teach yourself programming, will take a couple of months. Make a portfolio of personal programming projects then start applying for junior jobs. Then when you're working as a dev you can do your other studies part time or whatever. VBA programmers are still hired in finance and are paid fairly well, VBA is pretty easy to learn, might only take you a few weeks, would still need a portfolio though to get a job most likely +--- 15383825 +>>15382154 +They can't be replaced, because AI doesn't waste billions on fanciful projects. +What has particle physics achieved in the last 10 years? How much did cost/will new projects cost? +You physicists modulo the fundamental work already done or still being done are useless. +--- 15383826 +>>15383825 +(and with fundamental I mean the opposite of your intellectual jerk about the standard model, but rather things that are fundamental to the workings of industry and civilization). +--- 15383884 +>>15383825 +i'd pay $10 billion for a higgs boson. Imagine that. At the club and be like +>hey baby, do you decay into a bottom-antibottom ? cause you be lookin' like my higgs +and then show her the receipt printout from the LHC that says it found some random thing that kinda fits what the old science man said the higgs would be. She'd be into me for sure once she sees those 5 sigmas +--- 15384197 +>>15381962 (OP) +This whole thread smells like a designated shitting street. diff --git a/sci/15381969.txt b/sci/15381969.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..14b4426c10a4493b8e185a2f1464a7dc38b7178c --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381969.txt @@ -0,0 +1,170 @@ +----- +--- 15381969 +They made pepper spray illegal in Europe. +What are some equivalents that could be whipped up in a home lab? +Should be fairly easy to do, some kind of alcohol extraction maybe? But what should be dissolved in the alcohol for maximum impact? And how to propel the spray quickly in effective volume and distance? +--- 15382010 +>>15381969 (OP) +Based westoids won't do shit and globohomo will win in the end +--- 15382013 +>>15382010 +grim +--- 15382044 +>>15381969 (OP) +>what should be dissolved in the alcohol +pepper, dipshit. are you really +--- 15382054 +>>15381969 (OP) +girls vote for left parties +left parties implement left polices +immigrants come in your country +girls get raped by immigrants +left government protects the weak +left government protects the immigrant +#womenarefuckingstupid +in america there are only 2 parties and they are both right parties +--- 15382111 +>>15381969 (OP) +Pepper spray is indeed made of peppers: +https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Pepper-Spray +--- 15382135 +>>15381969 (OP) +Women Vote, YES! +--- 15382151 +>>15382044 +chilli peppers retard. +what are you going to do grind black pepper at them? +--- 15382178 +>>15382054 +>in america there are only 2 parties and they are both right parties +POST NATION!LOLOLOL +--- 15382191 +>>15382151 +--- 15382392 +>>15381969 (OP) +Is Europe actually a democracy? + +Not a European but I've complained about the lack of pepper spray before, not many seemed to listen. And I know Europe is touted as the bastion of science and high iq, but I'm not all that impressed with them politically. +--- 15382397 +>>15381969 (OP) +That information is easily found on youtube but is it to the point where you are afraid to browse the internet over there. +--- 15383366 +>>15381969 (OP) + +>What are some equivalents that could be whipped up in a home lab? + +A gun. Eliminates your rapists quickly and permanently. +--- 15383438 +>>15381969 (OP) +Pepper spray. Basically soak chilli powder in alcohol, filter, mix the resulting liquid with some oil and put it into a pump up pressure sprayer like the ones you can buy from the local nursery or just a squirty bottle. If you get caught using that... +--- 15383445 +This story is from 7 years ago. +She was fined $50. + +>The police stated that in total there had been nine cases of pepper spray being used in self-defence, with just one of these being an attempted robbery. On the other hand, from 2018 to 2019 the number of illegal uses of pepper spray doubled to 1,660. +Statistically speaking. If op is asking how to make pepper spray, they're most likely seeking to do illegal activities with it. + +If you're actually scared of getting raped, just buy the pepper spray and pay the fine for using it. Then you'll get to bitch and moan about having to pay a fine to defend yourself, but only IF that actually happens do you get that right. +--- 15383447 +>>15382392 +Ireland voted overwhelmingly "No" on their EU membership referendum. Ireland is currently a member of the EU. Knowing this, do you think Europe is a democratic place or not? +--- 15383449 +>>15383438 +Can you carbonate an oil/ethanol mix the same way you would with water? That would make the spray blast out better. +--- 15383464 +>>15381969 (OP) +You can probably still buy it for use against bears. Most governments don't want citizens carrying weapons with the expectation of using them against other people. Only they are allowed to do that :). Fuck I want to handcuff a cop and beat the living shit out of them so bad. +--- 15383485 +>>15382054 +many women dont though +--- 15383488 +>>15383447 +What, that's not true. +--- 15383663 +>>15381969 (OP) +Looks like you'll have to go back to older methods. Perhaps something more gentlemanly. What you'll want to do is buy a large amount of curry powder, then make a nice curry dinner and consume it, then the next day you'll want to dump ass into a long sock. Then you can swing the sock around for massive damage. One hit in the head from a curry crap sock can be devastating to your opponent +--- 15383674 +>>15382054 +Sometimes I wonder if that isn't true and their elections are just "fortified" like ours. Then I remember that article about the pro-refugee activist who was raped by Haitians and then declared that they had no choice because of white supremacy. + +Maybe it's a little bit of both. +--- 15383677 +>>15382054 +>in america there are only 2 parties and they are both right parties +You were doing well until this. This is European girl-tier retarded +--- 15383681 +>>15383464 +There aren't any bears in Europe. Europeans have long since destroyed all of their nature. They chimp out at countries like Brazil & America for cutting down a few trees instead of doing anything at all to restore what they once had in Europe. Rabbits are the largest wild animals that still inhabit Europe. +--- 15383781 +>>15383681 +That isn't true. There are still bears in southeastern Europe and Scandinavia, and pigs pretty much everywhere else as well. +--- 15383830 +>>15383681 +shartmerican education is truly something to behold. +--- 15383839 +>>15383681 +>They chimp out at countries like Brazil & America for cutting down a few trees instead of doing anything at all to restore what they once had in Europe. +Not only that, but they also chimp out at Australians for culling imported pest animals. Look at how many native Australian species that have been directly effected by wild cats, yet they freak the fuck out when we dare start campaigns to kill them. +--- 15383848 +>>15383839 +one of my dream vacations is to go to australia and spend a few weeks or a month having a great time shooting all of your pest animals. i don't know about cats, but the pigs, emus & camels are all good to eat. and i'd come home with a mountain of skins, that'd be my wardrobe for the rest of my life. +--- 15383851 +>>15383681 +Ironic and uninformed shitpost, as both bears and wolves have come back even to Germany due to reforestation and rewilding programmes. + +Europe has doubled its forest area since 1990. The global North has reforested so much that it replaced the Earth surface are of green that was lost in the South. + +I personally don't care if Brazillians turn their country into a Bangladeshi tier thirdie hellscape woth flavella aesthetic, just don't expect a ticket to Europe we're full (of Africans) and don't bitch when all your crops start failing either like what happened in Africa. +--- 15383852 +>>15383445 +>just pay the fine lol +This is bait right? +--- 15383863 +>>15381969 (OP) +look man, I understand /pol/ is fast and you're not getting enough (you)s between all the botposts, but at least attempt to make it on topic +--- 15384150 +>>15383445 +>On the other hand, from 2018 to 2019 the number of illegal uses of pepper spray doubled to 1,660. +holy shit lmao +--- 15384194 +isn't that what they voted for? if democratic process was fair and square that means public wanted it +>but I didn't vote for them +someone did +>okay I voted for the ruling party but I don't agree with their doings +then maybe you voted wrong +>but I didn't know they were going to impose such a controversial law +you don't even know who you are voting for then +>no one could foresee that +that's what you get for voting for deranged parties +>it has been like that for years, politicians come and go, I didn't vote for girls to be charged for defending themselves against rape +then indirect democracy is inherently flawed +>n-no it's not we just need to- +you didn't protest when they were imposing that law, you will do nothing now as well +--- 15384201 +>>15384194 +representative democracies are a farce, only direct accountability works +--- 15384225 +>>15382392 +Immigration policy is never voted on. Party A wants 1 million per year, Party B wants 800,000. There is no good option. +--- 15384232 +>>15382392 +It isn't as demonstrated by France and their pension reform. +--- 15384233 +>>15382392 +>Is Europe actually a democracy? +Europe is an anarcho-tyrannical mediacracy. +--- 15384255 +>>15383852 +Its a variation of " i'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6". +Bitch and moan, meanwhile just pay the fine. +--- 15384276 +>>15382392 +Democracy doesn't exist, your leaders are pre-elected puppets +--- 15384331 +>>15381969 (OP) +just buy chilli essential oil it's savage +--- 15384409 +If pepperspray is illegal in UK how is it for over-the counter sale? Or are they just buying it from some dodgy websites? I'd assume sites like Amazon would not sell pepper spray to UK customers. +--- 15384415 +>>15381969 (OP) +Egalitarians and their muh fairness caused this crap where people get charged if they fight off criminals diff --git a/sci/15381970.txt b/sci/15381970.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9e03e4ec9cf8be670df8eb81ad112f61e9a41127 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381970.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 15381970 +Archetype of true and false statement models + +https://vimmathematics.blogspot.com diff --git a/sci/15381988.txt b/sci/15381988.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..42a7839b987d0e28c7750388839b8168d79836d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15381988.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 15381988 +Scientifically speaking, how much force would it take to rip out the throat of another human being? If it takes only 70 lbs to collapse it, and 33 to close it, how much to completely rip it out? +--- 15382703 +depends on how long your nails are desu diff --git a/sci/15382018.txt b/sci/15382018.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5b223751945fc060d9623dc5ef4a0dae55a3168b --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382018.txt @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +----- +--- 15382018 +Anyone has any info or the actual program/schedule of the cambridge undergrad math course? I wanna learn harder math ala Wrangler style. +--- 15382042 +>>15382018 (OP) +http://dec41.user.srcf.net/notes/ +--- 15382051 +>>15382018 (OP) +Hehe she's doing the basedjak face +--- 15382731 +It sucks +An intern at my place who was from Cambridge math undergrad program said so. According to the intern, Indian and female lectures had the worst teaching skill, but idk I didn't study there +--- 15382742 +>>15382731 +>It sucks +>An intern at my place who was from Cambridge math undergrad program said so. +You have to elaborate a bit more than that. + +That's like me saying: MIT engineering sucks, I dunno it just does. Someone once said so. +--- 15382791 +>>15382742 +No. And no it's not "someone," +The intern (very bright and hardworking btw) worked under me for a while, and those are the first hand reports. I have no reason to doubt about those but since I didn't study there I can't say for certainly how bad it is diff --git a/sci/15382039.txt b/sci/15382039.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..37d7d7c10fb28093604e58a999c6b6413cde3c8c --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382039.txt @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +----- +--- 15382039 +The tremendous volume of anti-SpaceX spam that /sci/ is currently seeing is all strictly political in nature. +Musk committed the sin of removing Yoel Roth's censorship scheme from Twitter and that made Musk the enemy of Yoel Roth's fellow homosexual pedophiles. They are now using result of SpaceX's test launch as an excuse to spam /sci/ with anti-Musk propaganda as much as they can. +--- 15382169 +>>15382039 (OP) +It's not just did to twitter. It's also because he rejected many of the covid protocols, moved from California to Texas, and went on the Rogan podcast. Add in those who hate him because they lost money shorting his companies, hate the idea of electric vehicles, and those who hate that he gets government subsidies for some of his companies, you get the perfect storm of hate across the political spectrum. +--- 15382171 +>>15382039 (OP) +post the link where that screenshot is from +--- 15382362 +>>15382039 (OP) +This screenshot is older than you and hating Elon Musk is an apolitical matter. He is retarded. +You are delusional if you think the efforts of SpaceX are massively spearheaded by Elon Musk himself. This is the same man who removed verification to sell it to people, realized after he enacted it that verified accounts exist for a reason, and then remade the concept of verified accounts with different branding. This is after spending 44 billion dollars on a business that barely turns up a profit. +--- 15382575 +>>15382169 +The IFLS crowd wants to see SapceX fail because they professed love of science is false front for their political desires. If they truly loved science then they'd be ecstatic at seeing the world's richest man pouring his fortune into space exploration, but instead they hate him because he refuses to mouth their soft headed midwit political beliefs. +--- 15382898 +>>15382362 +SpaceX simply would not exist without Musk. +--- 15383136 +>>15382039 (OP) +They are failing because anyone that gives two shits about space exploration knows it wasn't a failure. +--- 15383225 +>>15383146 +--- 15383251 +>>15383225 +Lmao you seem a little obsessed and a little triggered. +--- 15383260 +>>15383251 +Why do trannies always project like this? Like who is this for? Yourself? People that see you do this retarded shit.... it does the opposite of what you want it to. It doesnt bring anyone to your side. It shows them utterly fucking retarded and dishonest you are +--- 15383263 +>>15383260 +It shows them *how* +--- 15383328 +>>15382575 +A lot of NASA fanboys hate Musk too, and a lot of space commies hate him for exemplifying capitalism in space, which was "supposed" to belong to governments and not corporations. +--- 15383348 +>>15383328 +He's also proving that private space companies are 1/10th the price as socialist space organizations for better capabilities, which is an affront to the notion that we should pay higher taxes and socialize everything. +--- 15383383 +>>15383328 +communists are ignorant of their own history. +stephan mikyoan, son of anastas mikyoan (stalin's chief diplomat) and nephew of artem mikyoan (the "Mi" in MiG, which is shorthand for mikoyan and gurevich design bureau) wrote a wonderful 900 page autobiogaphy which details his family's history as well as his time as a MiG test pilot (got the job via nepotism), tells all the details of communism from the inside, including the cutthroat competition in the aircraft industry. lobbying, bribery, intellectual property theft, same as in he west, but with higher levels of poverty of the working class +belief in communist always relies on ignorance of it as well as absurd power fantasies +>this is what i would do if i was in charge +>things would be so much better and everyone would love me for it +popular daydreams with people who have nothing to offer as individuals +--- 15383405 +>>15383383 +Sounds like a very interesting book, thank you for the recommendation. +--- 15383504 +>>15383251 +you're the one who is spamming the same image repeatedly while making no attempt to at all to post board relevant content. +you're just here as a political activist, go home >>>/pol/ +--- 15384195 +>>15383348 +>1/10th the price +NASA never spent less than $100,000/kg to orbit back when they were still competent enough to launch their own spacecraft. +Now that they can't even do that, why does NASA still even exist? +--- 15384211 +>>15382575 +he is literally a chud lmao no amount of hair transplant can hide that fact +--- 15384218 +As if anything posted on 4chan matters or has any effect on the world at large. +--- 15384224 +>>15382362 +> He is retarded +Are you sure? Or maybe its because you've cut off your penis? diff --git a/sci/15382048.txt b/sci/15382048.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..30083caf1e79339ce5e631249a6eb75810c47d79 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382048.txt @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +----- +--- 15382048 +What explains this phenomenon +--- 15382070 +>>15382048 (OP) +>Young women are dating older men. +>Young men are dating multiple women. +>Young women define casual relationships as "dating" while young men don't. +Take your pick +--- 15382080 +the same chad has 10 bitches. 4chan users have none. the end. +--- 15382081 +>>15382048 (OP) +me. i am dating 30% of the women +--- 15382084 +>>15382048 (OP) +Women fuck dogs +--- 15382093 +>>15382070 +>Young women date young women +--- 15382127 +>>15382048 (OP) +>What explains this phenomenon +i bet "dating" for girls anything from texting to fucking, for guys dating is fucking +--- 15382129 +>>15382048 (OP) +More men are born than women. More men are immigrants than women, and most immigrants are young. Many men have harems of women. Older men prefer younger women. Lots of reasons. +--- 15382228 +>>15382093 +fair +--- 15382241 +>>15382048 (OP) +The most shocking part of this is how these women who know full well that chad has like fifteen fucking side bitches are deluded enough to think *they're* the one who can change him and make him commit. +--- 15382282 +>>15382048 (OP) +>screencaps cancerous news article +>doesn't post the Pew research source +Well as usual since OP is retarded guess someone else has to do it, +https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ +>What explains this phenomenon +Sex discordance in survey responses. Women will report themselves as "not single" when casual dating while men will report themselves as single if they don't consider it committed or serious. There are similar wide differences in surveys asking about sex only in reverse, where women will consider numerous sex acts as "not sex" because it isn't penis-in-vagina while men consider damn near everything to be sex. +One example blog going over some of these details using GSS responses https://ifstudies.org/blog/theres-no-huge-gender-gap-in-being-single-among-young-adults +Discordance in reporting courtship: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X1300029X + +There are hundreds and hundreds of papers on survey methodology pertaining to gender differences between men and women as to how they conceptualize questions and categories. Most big differences are the result of poor inter-sex question "validity", i.e. failure to account for men and women conceiving the categories (single, not single, had sex or not, etc) differently. That is also why many of the better surveys have stopped asking direct questions like that, and instead break down categories into specific acts to get more honest answers and remove the difference. e.g. have you given/received a blowjob, a handjob, etc. + +Such discordance also occurs in many other surveys for all kinds of reasons. Any survey not accounting for this is being ineptly designed or deliberately misleading. It is impossible for any relevant professional to not be aware given how widely they've been recorded and published, unless they're so utterly inept as to barely be trusted flipping burgers. Or designing it on purpose for clicks. +--- 15382326 +>>15382048 (OP) +women are really picky I guess +--- 15382629 +>>15382048 (OP) +toxic masculinity +--- 15382719 +it's hard these days even for chads +I saw a roastie using filters to change her face to male and she said she wouldn't date it. They don't even like their own male version face but they want 100/10 CHAD +--- 15383648 +>>15382048 (OP) +I reckon if dating websites and apps didn't exist then the number would be like 30%. And if the internet still existed but it was text only with no images or videos able to be transferred in any way then the percent would go back down to whatever it was in the 80s. I don't think it's the online communication as much as it is people hooking up based on appearance only in a majority of cases. I want to blame chad too like others here and chad is a dick for dating multiple women at the same time without telling them, but chad existed in the 80s too when we didn't see this problem. + +If I was going to blame anyone it would be the people running the dating websites. One of the large dating sites, I think it was match dot com, released stats a few years ago that showed women were only messaging like 10% of the men whereas men were messaging 80% of the women. Then they deleted the study. I don't think dating sites release proper stats anymore. Probably because they're making money off the misfortune of men mostly and don't want people to know +--- 15383654 +>>15382129 +>More men are born than women. +There are like 1% more boys born than girls. +--- 15383667 +>>15382129 +>More men are born than women. +Nigga it's 50/50. Men just die more at all ages. +--- 15383679 +>>15382282 +cope +--- 15383706 +>>15382084 +This. +Her german shepherd gets more action that the majority of men +--- 15383733 +>>15382048 (OP) + +1 simple word. Lesbos. +--- 15383754 +>>15383667 +> In humans, the natural ratio at birth between males and females is slightly biased towards the male sex: it is estimated to be about 1.05[2] or 1.06[3] +--- 15383806 +The Five is extremely kino whenever they have Watters on +--- 15383823 +>>15382241 +still less deluded than incels +--- 15383850 +>>15383823 +at least incels post research +https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill +--- 15383857 +>>15383850 + +t. autistic :( +--- 15383862 +>>15383648 +If you have a qualification in social sciences you can still get access to their data sets. It's not publicised because nobody wants incels to know how bad it really is. There's fear of some kind out outburst. Lots of delaying tactics have been deployed while we move towards the next big war when all the incels will be euthenised. +--- 15383889 +>>15383862 +the incels will rise up. It has been foretold +--- 15383924 +>>15383889 +A big part of me hopes so. I don't want to be left here alone with the women, Chad's and faggots. +--- 15383986 +>>15383648 +>eleased stats a few years ago that showed women were only messaging like + +OKCupid used to basically open source all their data. It was a goldmine of great information like yours, but unfortunately when they got acquired by the Match group the practice was killed, so there's nothing recent that's public. + +What I will say is, Tinder is a completely different experience for men and women. Hell there's that video of the woman whos car broke down and she just started swiping right on people that looked like mechanics until someone would come to the side of the road and fix her shit. + +Meanwhile chads will boast that with enough effort they might be able to get a hookup for Friday. +--- 15383987 +>>15382070 +you missed +>young women lie +--- 15383994 +>>15383850 +>the "it's over" section +Lmao. It really is. +--- 15384320 +>>15383994 +Lol get fucked loser. diff --git a/sci/15382159.txt b/sci/15382159.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..24b8c8a0ef11213e772be663a85f26a3d0e854f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382159.txt @@ -0,0 +1,184 @@ +----- +--- 15382159 +Has science ended? Are soft sciences safe from this? +--- 15382183 +Science was replaced with soience a long time ago +--- 15382220 +>>15382183 +Yes +--- 15382265 +>>15382159 (OP) +Science isn't ending, we just need another scientific revolution. Academics have become what scholastics were in the 1700s. People who actually want to gain knowledge need to do so outside of academia. +--- 15382274 +>>15382220 +Flat earth theory is a conspiracy to make people outside of academia look stupid. +--- 15382305 +>>15382159 (OP) +>opinionated retard decides to share his opinion on a subject he doesn't even understand on a basic level + +Many such cases. I hate to break to you, since I know incel often struggle with anything that challenges their narrow and simplistic worldview, but science isn't ending. Science will go on as long as there are people who value truth and progress more than tradition, ignorance, and superstition. Moreover, incels like you will always continue to hate science, and hate everything else you don't understand, and people who are actually smart will continue to ignore you guys, and will be better off for it. + +Science may change, but science deniers always seem to stay the same. +--- 15382335 +>>15382305 +>Science may change, but science deniers always seem to stay the same. +Narcissistic personality disorder. Pathological need to feel special combined with no or nearly no actual ability, and so these people gravitate to wherever they can get the most attention. Whether the beliefs are paranoid or confident delusion depends on the type of narcissism it is. + +Historically this manifested as extreme superstition, mostly as the ability to control events. Magic, paranormal, etc. Extreme confidence in the state of affairs based on no actual knowledge or learning or personal efforts. It's especially bad in narcissists with low IQ, or narcissists with very bad numeracy ability or skills. +--- 15382363 +>>15382305 +You are a tranny and ugly ewww and stupid you are not a scientist and never can be +--- 15382380 +>>15382305 +>>>/pol/ +--- 15382390 +>>15382159 (OP) +>Joe Horgan +Never liked him. +--- 15382426 +viruses don't exist +--- 15382429 +>>15382159 (OP) +The guy has a pretty shit and inaccurate take on current physics. However, it does seem the primary route in fundamental physics has met its end, even so there's still plenty of weird unexplained phenomena to tackle (dark-matter, neutrino oscillations etc.), however unrelated, it may lead to paradigm-shifting results (such as in the case of the UV catastrophe). +--- 15382577 +>>15382429 +>dark-matter +Dark matter is like making up an imaginary friend and then convincing yourself your imaginary friend is the cause of all the problems in your life because there is no other explanation. Science version of the God of the gaps I guess +--- 15382650 +>>15382577 +Unlike God, there's an intensive search for it, and research on modified cosmological models. +--- 15382723 +>>15382650 +There's still some scientists that admit the theories of gravity could be wrong thankfully. There's alternatives to dark matter that produce basically the same results without making up imaginary matter. Still a work in progress +https://phys.org/news/2021-06-dark-real-misunderstood-gravity.html +--- 15382934 +>>15382723 +Why are you so against dark matter? Modified GR fails to explain all these seperate observations in galaxy rotation, gravitational lensing, cmb and bullet clusters together. +--- 15382972 +>>15382429 +>The guy has a pretty shit and inaccurate take on current physics. +You can say that again. I just looked at some of his articles and he has the anthropic principle totally backwards. He thinks we use it to say something about life being special but its the exact opposite; You invoke the anthropic principle to explain why laws that gave rise to a perceiver which (somewhat) understands them exist. It isn't pretty, but its more or less saying that this value works like this because if it hadn't, then there would have likely been no minds to ever measure the particular value. + +I know the logic is a little 3deep5me and the payoff is subtle but I would expect a science journalist to at least get closer. +--- 15383170 +>>15382934 +Why are you so for dark matter? You could just as well say it's invisible fairy floss that has special gravitational properties that's causing all of this. They've already just about exhausted all methods of detecting dark matter. Maybe it is real but I think it's good there's people looking into the possibility there's problems with the assumptions about the fundamental properties of gravity +--- 15383188 +>>15382650 +cosmology isn't a science, its a belief system. science has disprovable theories and repeatable experiments +--- 15383204 +>>15383170 +Because we know the properties of matter and not invisible fairies. If you're opposed to induction merely because it's induction, then you hate science. "Thing like what we know but is hard to detect" is a lot simpler of a leap than "gravity is wrong in a way we can't explain", and even so plenty of people are working on all these things anyway. Nobody, so far, has succeeded one way or other. + +Nothing about dark matter is magical or unscientific. It is simply the fact that whatever it "really is" it doesn't reflect or emit light to be detectable and galaxies differ WILDLY in ways that are best explained by different quantities of such matter. That, too, is a lot simpler than "gravity differs wildly for no reason". Go ahead and solve it if you think you're so smart. Dark matter is just a placeholder. +--- 15383227 +>>15383204 +holy triggered. Why do I personally have to prove it myself using an alternative method just to have that opinion when what you're claiming it is is also hypothetical, bit of a double standard there. But if you spend any time looking up alternative theories you'll find there's often scientists looking at alternatives after many years of searching for dark matter and finding nothing +https://phys.org/news/2019-01-dark-alternative-theory.html +https://www.quantamagazine.org/modified-gravity-theory-passes-a-critical-test-20200728 +https://bigthink.com/hard-science/dark-matter-theory/ +--- 15383242 +>>15382159 (OP) +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEgS5lSZ61s [Embed] +Science doesn't matter only consensus +--- 15383261 +>>15383227 +>emotional projection +weird cope just because someone disagrees with your hot take but okay +>alternative method just to have that opinion when what you're claiming it is is also hypothetical, bit of a double standard there. +False equivalence. >>15383204 "Because we know the properties of matter and not invisible fairies." +>But if you spend any time looking up alternative theories you'll find there's often scientists looking at alternatives after many years of searching for dark matter and finding nothing +That is exactly what I wrote. >>15383204 "and even so plenty of people are working on all these things anyway. Nobody, so far, has succeeded one way or other." + +Anyway, "You could just as well say it's invisible fairy floss" is bullshit. Enough said. If you think otherwise go solve the problem with your brilliance. If you can't, it's pretty obvious people are justified in describing it so far as dark matter as explained, and your contrarianism on the subject is just for the sake of being contrary. +--- 15383277 +>>15382220 +>"The Earth a Plane" +>big nogger on the front +>"Does the Earth Rotate? No!" +>star of david at the top + +Might wanna review your well-poisoning slop a bit more carefully next time, Schlomo. Shabbat shalom! +--- 15383615 +>>15382159 (OP) +Modern science is literally a religion now. It's over for soifags. + +Luckily I make a lot of money off of retarded sois and SJWs who believe modern science lol +--- 15383650 +>>15383277 +I miss that day when Israel got rocketed to hell +board quality across the site was wonderful for that brief window +--- 15384341 +>>15382335 +>https://phys.org/news/2021-06-dark-real-misunderstood-gravity.html + +I believe NPD is insufficient to explain the phenomenon. NPD is only 6% of the population according to the psychiatry industry (although the psychiatry industry is not a reliable source of information.) + +Anyway, my theory is it is cultural indocrination, mainly from evangelicals. At an early age these people are conditioned to obey the ingroup. If their church says that climate change is a hoax that's whatever they will believe. + +So psychological speaking, the type of people you are looking at are those who have a strong need to feel as part of their group. And/or people who tend to let other people do their thinking for them. And/or gullible people. +--- 15384351 +>>15383204 +>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEgS5lSZ61s [Embed] + +Disagree. Dark matter seems to be a placeholder for equations that don't work. Dark matter is like the kid at recess who when you LARP with them, always has an excuse as to why your attacks never got them to 0 hp, or the boss battle where the boss just grows another health meter once you get them to 0 hp. + +Its an indicator the theory doesn't work. Really a theory needs to be widely consistent. For instance if you have a faulty theory (like flat earth or geocentrism, but flat earth for instance.) In a lot of reference frames flat earth seems to be true. You have to seek out reference frames that invalidate the theory (for instance, being 60 miles above the horizon to disprove flat earth.) If a theory appears to be true in common reference frames but not true in all reference frames then its not a theory of absolute reality. Flat earth appears to be in common reference frames, but not all reference frames. So it is useful for small tasks like Microsoft flight sim which uses the flat earth model, or computer games, but is not that useful in modelling space equipment and such. This could be said for other theories, for instance Newtonian Mechanics. Its useful for small engineering projects but at the quantum level, atoms are probably not literal billiard balls. (Or maybe they are, idk lol.) +--- 15384359 +>>15384341 +Sounds like leftists and gender, race, and dozens of other topics where their ideology trumps reality. +--- 15384375 +>>15382159 (OP) +Technology and Innovation is definitely ending as IQ keeps declining. All we are left with illiterate schizo zealots like this >>15382305 +We have definitely hit a plateau as far as widening the horizons is considered. +--- 15384383 +>>15384341 +Self-selection. Entirely possible for a small minority to grossly over-represent in magical thinking, particularly given disorders that present consistently with "magical thinking". +>>15384351 +>Dark matter seems to be a placeholder for equations that don't work. +Alright. How would you explain observational evidence demonstrating offset behaviors like you'd expect from matter, then? For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_Cluster + +Even so, yes, it is possible to be wrong in any case. Just not for the reasons you're reaching for. Inferring "something else that behaves exactly like matter but isn't" is far less sensible absent good cause or evidence. Many alternatives people dream up, such as you postulate regarding analogy to reference frames, do not work as their necessary conclusions are false. There are plenty of other examples like the bullet cluster, and where various alternatives are proposed they fail to explain all the observations or make predictions. The only one that does? Dark matter. You don't have to like it, but it remains the most parsimonious explanation. +--- 15384385 +Most of Theoretical science is basically educated guesswork, significant part of it is outright BS, specially physics. +We stopped Experimentation in Physical Science long ago. +R&D in various other areas such as Materials, Rocketry, Nuclear Energy, Computing has stalled because "Expanding Horizons" is now considered Imperialistic, Racist and Fascist. Sterility, Mediocrity and Degrowth are the new Gods. +--- 15384442 +>>15384383 +Dark matter refers to a form of matter they don't understand. + +"The third component, the dark matter, was detected indirectly by the gravitational lensing of background objects" +They did not detect any dark matter directly, they just indirectly infer and speculate about it. + +The alternative is the theory of Gravity is wrong, there is no "dark matter", just a new theory of Gravity is needed. +--- 15384448 +>>15384442 +>The alternative is the theory of Gravity is wrong, there is no "dark matter", just a new theory of Gravity is needed. +So I linked a summary where you find multiple citations, from multiple authors, continuously confirming over the years how none of the alternative ideas of gravity explain exactly this observation. Your response? "Yeah but muh gravity wrong". + +If you don't realize how colossally stupid that was there's no hope for you. What part of "behaves exactly like matter, NOT GRAVITY" do you not understand? +--- 15384454 +>>15384383 +The thing is, dark matter is not an explanation. Why its called dark matter is because it doesn't explain anything, its called dark because they dont understand it. +--- 15384458 +>>15384383 +>cause +Interesting to see a materialist use that word. +--- 15384459 +>>15384448 +This is horseshit. All I see is a wikipedia wall of text full of nerd babble and some mentions of MOND (modified newtonian dynamics). Aether based theories (or based aether theories) aren't even mentioned in the article. +--- 15384460 +>>15384454 +It's called "dark" because it isn't visible. It is very clearly and clearly evidenced as behaving exactly like matter. We just don't know exactly what kind because dark. As in not visible. +--- 15384462 +>>15384459 +Ah. You lot are retarded. That explains it. +--- 15384463 +>>15384383 +Your NPD theory is bunk, that's what. Atheism is a relatively knew trend and for the most part, the mass majority of humanity was delusional for centuries. This is inconsistent with NPD being only 6% of the population. Unless you believe that 90% of the population has NPD which is more plausible. +--- 15384465 +>>15384460 +>>> +50 years from now i will be proven right and society will see your "dark matter" nonsense as the horseshit as it is. + +If you believe dark matter is a form of matter can you tell me why it's invisible and normal matter interacts with light? Of course not because you don't know what it is, you're just a cosmology fag like the rest of the circlejerkers. diff --git a/sci/15382188.txt b/sci/15382188.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c79d7f21162a3f9663f095451549d3d24f96c2c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382188.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 15382188 +>didn't sleep a wink wednesday night +>still drove to work, did all my stuff, drove back home +>did normal stuff the rest of the day without feeling too tired +>finally got tired at a normal time (10pm) and fell asleep +how did I stay awake and function normally while being functional and not tired yesterday? +--- 15382320 +>>15382188 (OP) +In my personal experience I don't feel tired when I am stimulated. Perhaps you just kept your mind busy for the entire time. Alternatively, maybe your life is so dull that it isn't taxing on you at all. +Your perspective on this doesn't really mean much, regardless. It's possible you weren't really as functional as you remember. +--- 15382364 +>>15382188 (OP) +you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media +--- 15382530 +>>15382364 +You sure do like posting your opinion on social media, the same opinion, dozens of times a day +--- 15382555 +>>15382320 +I always feel tired when I'm stimulated. I fell asleep in my grandma's gazebo just yesterday while she was out, she wasn't too happy because the neighbours told her they saw me stimulating myself +--- 15382579 +>>15382188 (OP) +>how did I stay awake and function normally while being functional and not tired yesterday? +covid unironically + +same shit happened to me. diff --git a/sci/15382271.txt b/sci/15382271.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e38f8631cccc2bfadfbca2f899afdf1959392163 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382271.txt @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +----- +--- 15382271 +where's the rebar? +--- 15382517 +>>15382271 (OP) +What am I looking at? +--- 15382605 +>>15382517 +--- 15382622 +>>15382605 +jet fuel can melt steel beams +--- 15382689 +>>15382517 +human spaceflight being delayed 3 years +--- 15382695 +>>>/sfg/ +--- 15382722 +>>15382622 +But the steel beams are perfectly fine. +--- 15383867 +>>15382271 (OP) +Here +--- 15383872 +So should we be building these pads out of basalt? +--- 15383904 +>>15382517 +Space X wants to launch this rocket without flame diverters, because they hope to land and launch from mars one day where there are no specially built pads. The result was the launch pad concrete disintegrated and destroyed 3 of the raptor engines right from the get go. Another 3 failed a few minutes into flight and the rocket lost control and was detonated by ground crew. +The commentator saying it was doing it's flip maneuver for separation was a moron. It was no where near high enough and hadn't even throttled down +--- 15383931 +>>15383904 +Launching from Mars doesn't need the superheavy booster you newfag. The starship 6 engine vehicle has already launched from a more simple launchpad several times without leaving any dents and landed successfully in the same pad. Where do you retarded newfags get your talking points. You realize /sci/ has been following this since 2018? +--- 15384028 +>>15383931 +From Scott Manley and Marcus Houses space X youtube channels +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8q24QLXixo [Embed] +Fucking sperging faggot +--- 15384073 +>>15384028 +You don't need a flame diverter system in Mars you fucking retard. How many times do you need to hear this? The vehicle (starship) that is going to land and take off in Mars has already been tested without that system on earth and worked well enough. The actual vehicle (superheavy) that caused the damage is not going to be anywhere near Mars because it's only job is to lift starship and land back on earth. I don't need to watch Manley for that because I've been following this since 2018 unlike you newfag who has no idea what they are talking about. +--- 15384095 +>>15382271 (OP) +Did anyone actually think Stage 0 would survive?? +It was doomed from the start. NASA doesn’t use a water system for no reason, lmfao +--- 15384133 +Maybe they are trying a more powerful rocket +I didn't follow this launch but it looks like it was a success and the launching pad is too old for their rockets +--- 15384163 +>>15382271 (OP) +fubar +--- 15384321 +>>15383904 +>The commentator saying it was doing it's flip maneuver for separation was a moron. + + +they should fire that fat fuck, he is so out of touch with whats going on most of the time. diff --git a/sci/15382333.txt b/sci/15382333.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..56d1dd37eb134674b91e340b71e70c5326b9d043 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382333.txt @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +----- +--- 15382333 +nothing extraordinary, but not that common either +direct hit for sure, impact in 48-72 hours, geomagnetic storm expected +--- 15382355 +will miss, the sun rotates in 24 days, the earth orbits in 365 days. +--- 15382400 +>>15382333 (OP) +How the sun actually looks like. It's local and not 93 gorillion miles away. It's more likely these "geomagnetic storms" are codeword for something else and not real storms since the sun is not some molten fusion reactor. +--- 15382422 +>>15382355 +it won't miss at all +the CME has already been launched, and while the launch is indeed slanted due to the fast rotation of Sol it still hits a wide area +in this case we already have halo confirmation from LASCO, so it's not a question at all +>>15382400 +go waste posts in someone else's thread, please +--- 15382431 +>>15382400 +>How the sun actually looks like. +Ah yes, THIS is what he sun REALLY looks like. All the rest of the millions of pictures and videos of the sun are clearly all CGI or special effects purported by the jew lizard aliens from flat Jupiter. +>It's local and not 93 gorillion miles away. +So how far away is it? How hot is it? Why did it apparently not change size when I got 30,000 feet closer to it? Why doesn't it fall on top of us? What makes it rise? +>since the sun is not some molten fusion reactor +Then why is it hot? If it isn't hot then why is earth hot when the sun is in the sky? +--- 15382439 +>>15382431 +well, I agree with them that it's not powered by fusion, but nothing else +what powers it in my opinion is interstellar Birkeland currents from the galactic current sheet, the galactic equivalent of the heliospheric current sheet, but with far larger currents +--- 15382472 +>>15382439 +>what powers it in my opinion is interstellar Birkeland currents from the galactic current sheet, the galactic equivalent of the heliospheric current sheet, but with far larger currents +I'm not remotely smart enough to understand if this is an actual possibility, but I commend you on being able to think science might be wrong without going complete loony tunes. +--- 15382494 +>>15382400 +The sun is real, smart guy. I know it's real because I stare directly at the sun without sunglasses for over an hour every day, studying it and it's movements. I've watched and studied it so much that i can even tell you it takes approximately 24 hours to go around the earth. Which is a bit strange that it knows how to line up with one day like that, but nevertheless, it's real +--- 15382542 +>>15382472 +>>15382472 +It's the emerging Electric Universe theory, unfortunately it's still based on the globohomo space model, which is completely invalidated. The earth is flat with a dome. +--- 15382559 +>>15382542 +Don't see any dome in your video, or any video for that matter. I've atleast got pictures of the earth's curve. +--- 15382564 +>>15382400 +meds +--- 15383849 +OP here +halo CME confirmed, impact likely in ~36-60 hours +prepare for aurorae if you're at high latitudes +beware of earthquakes if you're in a region with a lot of faults +--- 15383893 +>>15382542 +>The earth is flat with a dome. +anon +I want you to do a very simple experiment. +tie up a long thread and hang some sort of weight like a pen from it, observe it and try to explain what you see happen. +--- 15383913 +Is this likely to cause disruption to electrical grids? +If your location is facing away from the sun at time of impact will it be affected? +--- 15384019 +>>15383913 +>Is this likely to cause disruption to electrical grids? +no, not at all, not even remotely energetic enough +2003 was a direct hit from an X17, and that hardly affected the grid at all, only a few hours of outages in a small part of Sweden and a few transformers blown in South Africa +and that was 100 times the peak flux of this one +this will just be some nice aurorae, maybe some slightly increased seismic activity in the most extreme cases, but that tends to happen with a time delay of at least one day +>If your location is facing away from the sun at time of impact will it be affected? +could be, because the ejecta will arrive spread over time, so elevated geomagnetic conditions can last for well over 12 hours +but again, the only effect you're likely to see from it is aurorae, and only if you live at high enough latitudes diff --git a/sci/15382645.txt b/sci/15382645.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..8bdb4a9602bda637680638cb54e177f5e464f1f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382645.txt @@ -0,0 +1,31 @@ +----- +--- 15382645 +Pretty sure this is a treasure trove of new sci/tech. +strange you don't hear more about Gravitational Waves. +Gravity is very weak but still. Seems like there is a lot of promise here. +--- 15382669 +yes +--- 15382845 +>>15382645 (OP) +>this is super weak it’s barely observable and it requires solar levels of mass but it’ll be useful I promise! +--- 15382867 +>>15382845 +yeah but ur talking about waves in spacetime. +and they more or less behave just like light +--- 15383864 +>>15382645 (OP) +do you mean we should research gravitational waves more ? Or that we should try to harness gravitational waves ? Or that we should try to harness gravity generally ? +--- 15383878 +>>15382845 +What if you learn to surf the gravity waves. Have you ever thought about that? +--- 15384038 +>>15382645 (OP) +>strange you don't hear more about Gravitational Waves +uhhh yeah pretty strange...im feeling sleepy, how about you? +>Gravity is very weak but still. +in all cases???? +>Seems like there is a lot of promise here. +its probably nothing. GO TO SLEEP! +--- 15384053 +>>15382845 +>giving up that easily diff --git a/sci/15382677.txt b/sci/15382677.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a53b8d2cdd6d89d15577639635b9d7253e31dd98 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382677.txt @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +----- +--- 15382677 +Can you be intelligent and do poorly in school or am I just coping? If so is there any way to overcome retardation? +--- 15382709 +>>>/adv/ +--- 15382712 +>>15382677 (OP) +Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_exceptional +Aside from that, the more beyond the norm your IQ, and less supportive or encouraging your parents are, the more likely such people are to have problems. The special needs of genius level children can be very mismanaged and lead to abuse, whether by parents or the system, and all manner of problems. Depends a lot on the personality traits of the individual. + +Still possible for a similar cycle to occur in a normal person of course. Simply as a matter of bullying, or very poor relation to teachers, lack of knowledge or access to self-paced learning tools, etc. You can start with khan academy. +--- 15382817 +>>15382677 (OP) +Of course everyone has a high IQ on the internet, but I'm pretty sure I can count myself as highly intelligent. My interactions with teachers were always on the extremes. If they recognized the spark of curiosity I had and treated me nicely, I performed phenomenally in their class. The others, most of whom were mediocre women, resented that I did things my own way, called out their errors, and asked questions they couldn't answer. When you're young and programmed to blindly trust authority, even an idiotic teacher's unmerited dismissive attitude is defeating to one's self-worth, because you're trying to balance the disharmony of simultaneously being correct and repudiated at the same time. + +tl;dr: Do not blindly accept a teachers evaluation of your abilities as a reflection on your intelligence. diff --git a/sci/15382738.txt b/sci/15382738.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..09e3470e8d63fb94bf72c2356633baf2350ba3c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382738.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15382738 +The only medications known to reduce the risk of suicide are lithium in the treatment of bipolar disorder and clozapine in the treatment of schizophrenia +--- 15383812 +I still won't take my meds mom +--- 15384343 +Apologize cunt. diff --git a/sci/15382764.txt b/sci/15382764.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..70f48485ffd255b73785ca0625e8722213d3fdda --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382764.txt @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +----- +--- 15382764 +Hello I'm the guy who've proven trivially Dirichlet's theorem (I'm a white male genius) and no one has probably heard of me so here we take an attempt to prove Rudin's conjecture, it appears to have some similarities with the methods I used previously, they are basic and should be good enough. + +Some literature may provide the correct intuition such as https://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.5122.pdf for a spontaneous example + +The conjecture shortly in it's strongest form asserts that [math] N>6, Q(N)=Q(N; 24, 1) [/math] where one defines [math] Q(N) [/math] to be the maximum of the set [math] \{Q(N; q, a):q, a\geq1\} [/math] of amount of perfect squares in an arithmetic progression [math] Q(N; q, a)=q\mathbb{N}_N+a [/math] where it is indexed over the ring of integers modulo [math] N [/math] denoted by [math] \mathbb{N}_N [/math] +--- 15382770 +>>15379790 → +--- 15382797 +We start trivially with taking the intersection with the square integers [math]\mathbb{N}^2\cap Q(N; q, a)[/math] for [math] N>26 [/math] +Notice that this intersection is isomorphic to [math]\mathbb{N}_N\cap\frac{1}{q}\big(\mathbb{N}^2-a\big)=\mathbb{N}_N\cap\frac{1}{q}\big((q\mathbb{N}+t_{q, a})^2-a\big)[/math] it is equal in cardinality and where [math]q>t_{q, a}[/math] is such that [math]\frac{1}{q}(t_{q, a}^2-a)\in\mathbb{N}[/math] +--- 15382800 +>>15382770 +This is important worthless talentless tranny it's not your usual mathy little thread that you must put in the other thread + +Please go do worthless studies in engineering and stop BOTHERING ME +--- 15382836 +>>15382770 +It’s not like all math has to go into the cesspit of /mg/ +--- 15382890 +>>15382797 +We will the notate the set analytically as follows +[eqn]S(q, a)=\frac{1}{q}\big((q\mathbb{N}+t_{q, a})^2-a\big)=\bigcup_{n\in[0, C(q, a)]\cap\mathbb{N}}{qn^2+2nt_{q, a}+\frac{t_{q, a}^2-a}{q}}[/eqn] +Where we find the boundary [math]C(q, a)=\frac{\sqrt{qN+a}-t_{q, a}}{q}[/math] due to the intersection [math]q\mathbb{N}+t_{q, a}\cap\mathbb{N}_{\sqrt{qN+a}}[/math] +--- 15382892 +>>15382890 +DUE TO THE INTERSECTION [math] q\mathbb{N}+t_{q, a}\cap\mathbb{N}_{\sqrt{qN+a}} [/math] +--- 15383042 +I though about defining differentiation for intervals or in general for [math]\mathbb{N}_x[/math] +--- 15383183 +Through some routine calculations I have found one interesting equation that might provide the final proof later on +[eqn] (qN+a)(\eta^2_q-a)=a^2\eta_q [/eqn] +Where we take the union of all [math] \eta_q\in\mathbb{N}_q^2\cap q\mathbb{N}_q-a [/math] over that expression above +--- 15383378 +If any of you care I've gone to sleep, have fun continuing the proof +--- 15383522 +>>15383378 +Nevermind going to kms after I tackle this conjecture so no sleep today! +--- 15383792 +>>15382797 +Meant [math] N>6 [/math] and forget the equation above there is a different inequality to consider +[eqn] |Q|(q; q, a)=|t_{q, a}|=\frac{n_q\sqrt{qN+a}}{qN+2a} [/eqn] +--- 15383809 +Notice that the amount of perfect squares in [math]Q[/math] is simply [math] |Q|(N; q, a)=C(q, a)+|t_{q, a}|-1 [/math] where we can actually reduce the boundary from >>15382890 +to [math] C(q, a)=\frac{\sqrt{qN+a}-t_{q, a}}{q} =\frac{\sqrt{qN+a}}{q}-\{0, 1\}[/math] due to the fact that the floor function for the integers here depends on [math]0<\frac{t_{q, a}}{q}<1[/math] +--- 15383818 +>>15383809 +Arithmetic mistake, it should be [math] |Q|(N; q, a)=C(q, a)|t_{q, a}| [/math] previous derivations are wrong +--- 15383821 +>>15383818 +Except the one with the boundary simplified (verify!) diff --git a/sci/15382828.txt b/sci/15382828.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c17ec101469c392522731e75b5cbebeb292f22c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382828.txt @@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +----- +--- 15382828 +Holy shit these genes are found from all over animal kingdom + also protistan (there is one protist in here) +--- 15382834 +>>15382828 (OP) +OMG!!! All organisms have ATCG!!!! WOOOAAAAAHHH I FRICKIN LOVE BASEDENCE +--- 15382841 +not sure what you're trying to prove, retarded thread +--- 15382864 +>>15382834 +>Confusing genes with nucleotides +--- 15382875 +>>15382828 (OP) +>amino acids are the building block of proteins +Wow. Shocking. +--- 15382888 +>>15382834 +I am thinking maybe you have zero T so not all organisms +--- 15382900 +>>15382828 (OP) +You cut the full sequence off. + +Is there any place we can look at these? +--- 15382902 +>>15382828 (OP) +One would expect as much, or so I'd hope, given simpler organisms are comprised of more generalizable genes given more generalizable traits. Same goes for its necessity as biology has to work with what is already there, as regress to more general and simplified adaptations would take the same amount of time with an equally protracted reversal of environmental circumstances. That would definitely be rather unique due to how implausible it would be. + +I am not sure which paper or dataset you got the image from? There are a lot of interesting homologies found in attempting reconstructions of LUCA, or hypotheses on the structuring of the constituents of LUCA. For the most basal generalized structures found in all life there is a ton of genetic homology due to shared ancestry of course. Research on LUCA and toward abiogenesis would tell you a lot more neat things like that if you're curious. +--- 15383012 +>>15382888 +I accept the L, great comeback and gr8 get. I kneel. +--- 15383446 +Wait until you learn about human accelerated regions and genomic conservation. Essentially a large amount of human specific DNA is actually just back-evolved from mammals. So for instance mammals might have evolved a G -> A 500 million years ago from fish, but when we look at certain regions of the human genome humans evolved back the A -> G independently of other species, i.e. chimps still have an A there, as do every other mammal, but fish still have the G along with humans. +--- 15383730 +>>15382841 +>>15382875 +>>15382888 +>>15382902 + +best fits are noted with asterisk +--- 15383802 +>>15382828 (OP) +I don't get why this is interesting. Life shares common ancestry and small differences in genotype make huge differences in phenotype. So what? +--- 15384034 +>>15383802 +I think its interesting, because it means that something like that sequence must have been present in the common ancestor of all those organisms. +--- 15384180 +>>15384034 +yes, for a billion years + +of course one or two of these organisms could have randomly generated out of thin air the same sequence when enough time passes but thats highly doubtful +--- 15384190 +>>15384034 +>I think its interesting, because it means that something like that sequence must have been present in the common ancestor +Of course, that's why the story is that all life came from the first replicating molecule, or Adam and Eve, or the one consciousness, or an alien engineer, or...By the way: didn't the fact that all life forms are cells tell you they have something in common? +--- 15384244 +>>15384190 +what the fuck are you talking about schizo +--- 15384282 +>>15384244 +>Retard doesn't know Dawkins, Bible, Hinduism and truthers diff --git a/sci/15382849.txt b/sci/15382849.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..c94862044bd0d95c5aa5127d71179087d431a91b --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382849.txt @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +----- +--- 15382849 +Study Trig ID's, anybody have any study tips/tricks they recommend? Cheers! +--- 15382851 +>>15382849 (OP) +Studying +--- 15382878 +>>15382849 (OP) +Don't memorize them all, just know the common and useful ones. The rest you can derive easily from exponential form, or you won't need. Obviously your line of study will dictate which ones you need most commonly. + +Pure memorization for its own sake is Indian tier. +--- 15382882 +>>15382878 +>Pure memorization for its own sake is Indian tier. +It can let you more easily make connections with new material. Memorizing shouldn't be the end all be all but it's useful +--- 15382976 +>>15382882 +It's probably better to just develop that intuition by solving problems. +--- 15382980 +>>15382849 (OP) +Literally sin2 + cos2 = 1 and sum of sin(or cos) is all you need to get everything else. +--- 15382986 +>>15382849 (OP) +>Study Trig ID's, anybody have any study tips/tricks they recommend? Cheers! +Yeah. Chug away at trig-ID problems and related periodically until you memorize them. Teaches your brain it can't just discard the information with periodic reinforcement. Practice until you have them all, wait until the next day do it again, then wait two days do it again. The brain likes to forget things and periodic reminding says "No fucker you keep this". + +Or that's the idea anyway. I just practice as much as I can between doing other things with math in general. More you do the less you forget. +--- 15382991 +SOH CAH TOA is all I have needed to memorize so far. I derive the rest through manipulation of formula. But Im still only learning the basics of engineering science, so not sure about when things get more involved. +--- 15383011 +>>15382849 (OP) +Why memorize? This is what computers are for. +--- 15383050 +>>15383011 +Because we test proficiency by treating humans as computers. It's just easier. Testing conceptual fluency absent computational fluency would be a lot harder, even if it would be better. Unless there's some research on that I don't know about. + +Basically society doesn't care if you have good or even genius tier unique conceptual fluency if you have really poor computational ability. All that matters is you can get the right answers to pass the grade reliably until much further along in education. I don't think that's a good thing but I don't know how to replace it with anything more efficient that isn't so pointlessly punitive. +--- 15383290 +Collect more formulae +--- 15383329 +>>15382849 (OP) +never bothered with that, all of the exams in my serious physics classes were open note. you only need to be proficient at using them. +memorized factiods and trivia and not a measure of ability and understaning +--- 15383440 +>>15382849 (OP) +>rewrite all trig functions as exponentials (sin t = (e^it-e^-it)/2i etc.) +>rewrite result as a rational function using convenient substitution(s) such as x=e^it +>if the result reduces to 0 the identity is valid, otherwise it isn't. +--- 15383695 +>>15382849 (OP) +Imagine having an IQ of 170 and not just understanding how the basic trig identities work (sin, cos, tan), which is achievable for anyone 120+, but even all of the identities in the pic, immediately and on an intuitive level without first being explained to. +--- 15383798 +You can derive almost alll from euler equation + +Memorizing math is not white mans job +--- 15383813 +One day the Pajeets are going to be very mad when they find out that the British were just giving them busy work, and they've spent centuries memorizing identities for no good reason at all. diff --git a/sci/15382954.txt b/sci/15382954.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..e6735bc68e38b1d7869d9173bdca84446c1a3fc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382954.txt @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +----- +--- 15382954 +Is picking up a trade a better option than studying engineering? +--- 15382996 +No. There was an info graph posted the other day that shows the 90th percentile welder makes as much income as the 50th percentile of workers overall. +Engineering will give you more money at a comfier job and more prestige/status (which is unironically important for getting women). +The trades meme makes sense for people who were going to do gender studies, not for engineering majors +--- 15383044 +trade is for if you are adhd/cant afford college +--- 15383051 +Not if you want to study the engineering curriculum. +--- 15383054 +>>15382954 (OP) +Engineering is better, but an even better option is finding a trade where the company will eventually pay you to study engineering. You get cheaper schooling, and the only people who do well in engineering classes are the people who already know the material. If I could do it over I would have waited before starting school so I could have had a good gpa, which opens so many doors. +--- 15383080 +>>15382954 (OP) +>better +Define "better" +--- 15383206 +>>15383080 +Is it better to learn by experience than by theory? +--- 15383295 +>>15382954 (OP) +If you can get into a union position, probably. + +Maintaining elevators pays a lot. +--- 15383829 +>>15382954 (OP) +not really. It depends on your personality though. I think it kind of depends on how your brain works too. Some people feel a bit depressed when they do manual work because you don't need to think a whole lot while you're doing it but you're stuck at work for 9 hours a day, so you're basically stuck with your own thoughts all day every day just thinking random junk and it can make you depressed or having delusions. That's what happened to me anyway + +I did carpentry for a few years. Then i did an engineering degree. Then I worked as a structural engineer for a few years. Then i taught myself programming and now I work as a programmer instead for the last 10 years or so. The programming is the best for me out of those. My mind is occupied all day because programming is constantly thinking about how to solve lots of little problems. Engineering is a bit like that but it's kind of halfway between a trade and programming. Doing carpentry was fun for the first few months but started getting depressing. Engineering was just kind of boring, kind of interesting but still fairly repetitive +--- 15383853 +>>15382996 +college kids like you are always telling tall tales to justify your lazy work avoidance. +>daddy will pay my bills forever +you're just a big, overaged baby + +>>15383044 +>if you can't afford college +daddy is paying, not you, pappabetalar +--- 15383902 +>>15382954 (OP) +If you're young and you can catch on with Union Pacific as rail crew they'll start you at about $27/hr & you'll be earning nearly twice that in 10 years, if you stick around for 30 years you retire with full salary pension. If you're only 50 years old or so when you retire you can start a 2nd career. I know one old timer who is picking up full salary pension with UP and after 30 years with them he just turned around and joined Southern Pacific, where he started at near the top of the pay scale. So now he's getting $150k or so a year in pension, plus that much again from SP & he'll get big pension from SP if when retires from there. Drives a Benz to work, owns an airplane and a boat and a couple of houses & sent his kids to private school, all without having graduated high school, he dropped out to start with UP. Hes almost 70 & so rich you'd swear he was jewish if you didn't know what kind of work he was in. Hes so skilled with tools & engines that he does all the +maintenance on his boat & plane himself, hes probably better than most trained airframe & powerplant guys. +Heres the big bonus: he told me he had never had to work with women other than boss's secretary and HR paper pushers. No academic will ever match that brag. I was dumb enough to go to college and the women were all incompetent, worthless & emotionally fragile so you had to humor them. I had to take a physics source from a woman, that was a total waste of time. Also took two math courses from foreigners who could not communicate in English at all, big waste of time & money. +--- 15383907 +>>15382954 (OP) +Just study Civil Engineering. It's trade job with better pay and less physical work. +--- 15383917 +>>15383907 +>less physical work. +physical work is good, its like getting paid to exercise. desk jockeys are all fat slobs or skinny sissies or they have to spend all their free time at the gym. people who do physical labor sleep good at night too +--- 15383942 +If you want to be a stupid nigger for the rest of your life, it's perfect +--- 15384202 +>>15382954 (OP) +isn't that the guy who killed his whole family? +--- 15384279 +>>15383902 +based diff --git a/sci/15382956.txt b/sci/15382956.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..7e21bd355fcca744d8297793539044d2300fccd2 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382956.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 15382956 +In a large community-based study in four provinces representing 12% of China’s population, we identified 393 people with schizophrenia (112 never treated). We used adjusted Poisson regression models to compare employment for those living in rural (n = 297) v. urban (n = 96) settings. + +Results +Although rural and urban residents had similar impairments due to symptoms, rural residents were three times more likely to be employed (adjusted relative risk 3.27, 95% CI 2.11–5.07, P<0.001). + +https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3796368/ +--- 15382974 +>>15382956 (OP) +Probably more likely to be employed due to their family "employing" them in the first place. Or village. It's a lot easier to have collective care of the village nutcase when you've known the nutcase the whole time he or she was growing up. +Checking it over, yeah that's exactly what they write would be likely explanations and factors. +>Prior sociological findings suggest the social and contextual conditions that may promote such employment accommodation.32–34 Opportunities for agricultural work are made plentiful because government regulations mandate that farmland be primarily used for individual agriculture and survival often requires maximising its usage.32 Such work has also been described as being flexible seasonally, and even daily,33 allowing for periodic disability. Involvement of extended kin, including parents, siblings and other relatives, may further aid ill individuals in fulfilling farming or household responsibilities.34 These conditions may have provided the supportive context for rural people with schizophrenia in our study to remain employed, who as indicated by average GAF scores, were still experiencing serious symptoms. + +Just leaves me asking ".... and?" +--- 15383128 +>>15382974 +>Just leaves me asking ".... and?" + +We could substantially improve the quality of life and engagement in society of schizophrenics by sending them to rural china +--- 15383155 +>>15383128 diff --git a/sci/15382966.txt b/sci/15382966.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..df543fa90af622f670a6f3c5ebda9559f71a8263 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15382966.txt @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +----- +--- 15382966 +where are they most likely to land the first manned mars mission? Hellas Basin maybe? +--- 15383988 +>>15382966 (OP) +we havent even put a man on the moon yet lets not get ahead of ourselves diff --git a/sci/15383086.txt b/sci/15383086.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..528c875c2a5644db6044bdf09ca2955825f96e0c --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383086.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +----- +--- 15383086 +Which application of science do you find most pleasing? I'm particularly fond of the toaster +--- 15383101 +>>15383086 (OP) +The toaster was the start of +The downfall of humanity. Before the toaster there was no “convenient” way to cook food. From the earliest caveman discovering fire to the 19th century wenches preparing food for their children, cooking was always a meditative and purposeful enterprise. Once the toaster arrived we had people lazily throwing carbs in the toaster because it was easy, so they overate food, eventually forgot how to cook, and now walk around as obese blobs draining our tax base everything they need another day related medical procedure +--- 15383102 +>>15383101 +*fat related, not day related +--- 15384229 +>>15383101 +ww2 showed employers that women were functional enough as employees. Feminism was shortly created thereafter to encourage women into the workforce, with a view to halve the value of labor by flooding the markets with double the labor. + +The result of stripping women away from the household, is a stark increase in obesity and other aliments associated with poor health. +--- 15384242 +Men should go back to fighting with musket and bayonet. +Women should go back to washing clothes by hand. + +The most pleasing application of science to me is everything which was able to rid us of intestinal parasites. +--- 15384248 +the combustion engine diff --git a/sci/15383088.txt b/sci/15383088.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0d9d32175069e784e8ad31cf13baf6d9e36c3809 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383088.txt @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +----- +--- 15383088 +50% of pigs are smarter than 0.4% of humans +--- 15383178 +Sadly, it's the 50% hinder part. +--- 15383443 +70% of nigs are dumber than 70% of humans +--- 15383451 +>>15383088 (OP) +Breathe with your mouth closed, chew your food more, try to keep your tongue resting on your hard palate. +--- 15383668 +>>15383451 +How long before we see changes? +--- 15383685 +>>15383451 +The ordinary low-value subhuman can't even drink properly. +www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/12p4p31/i_might_be_losing_my_sanity_but_how_exactly_are + +Many types literally drink like babies. Like sipping, as if every drink were a scalding hot cup of tea. They don't understand of letting the liquid enter in a swill and then using your musculature to swallow. + +You have constant fires you are putting out with subhumans who can't even understand how a human functions. diff --git a/sci/15383122.txt b/sci/15383122.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9fc4e27ec9d1a20025e8b981ce975444ae7684e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383122.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15383122 +Has any progress, if any, been been made towards this in real life? Is there a viable idea on how to translate complex nerve impulses coming from the brain into signals that microchips can understand as inputs? +--- 15383831 +>>15383122 (OP) +>Human augmentation +Already exists. With a bit of practice you can look at a piano and ''see'' all the scales. No technology needed. diff --git a/sci/15383123.txt b/sci/15383123.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9ae82a26b81017f4648a7df6cf531cc4e5d0bef9 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383123.txt @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +----- diff --git a/sci/15383216.txt b/sci/15383216.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2491206ea0fba92e6b60cb4dd9ddfc41ee8dfb94 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383216.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 15383216 +The TimeCube is the greatest discovery in the history of man. Once I learned the TimeCube, I got too much pusy that I could handle. Once everyone learnes the TimeCube humanity will pass into the next great age. We are all worn out for lack of learning the TimeCube. They created the 7 days week to ENSLAVE you. Do your research. Learn the TimeCube. You will instantly outcompete all 7-day lemmings on earth! +--- 15383254 +>>15383216 (OP) +7 day virgins will always be cucked by timecube chads. It's literally over +--- 15383301 +>>15383254 +this timecube chad gets it. +--- 15383322 +>>15383216 (OP) +sounds like a certain cop that patrols these parts diff --git a/sci/15383298.txt b/sci/15383298.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..381c9b7f60f2eeca5bb133278729fd5ecb17c4e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383298.txt @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +----- +--- 15383298 +What are the most developed and underdeveloped species at birth? +--- 15383341 +>>15383298 (OP) +>what ya fuckin lookin at cunt +>i'll fuckin kick ya in the farkin testies ya cunt +--- 15383410 +>>15383298 (OP) +bacteria, if you dont care about it being born, if you do, then some sort of herbivore. Humans are probably one of the least developed +--- 15383429 +>>15383341 +Verily, our women doth speak so. +--- 15383436 +>>15383410 +Humans are about as developed as other primates, relative to their adult brain weight and size. Slightly longer gestation than most too. +--- 15383560 +>>15383298 (OP) +there's several arthropods that are born already baring young. On the flip side, I'm not sure what the least developed youth might be - someone else will have to answer. Seems more difficult to hit the ballpark. diff --git a/sci/15383324.txt b/sci/15383324.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..a7864fd885edf5116e6e39427973037884d73d37 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383324.txt @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +----- +--- 15383324 +How great was Ramanujan? was he overhyped because of his minority status or was he genuinely the greatest mathematician? +--- 15383334 +He was great but over a billion very dumb people are relying on him for hype and clout +--- 15383335 +>>15383324 (OP) +Raman u jan? +--- 15383819 +>>15383344 +retarded minds post on /sci/. Also checked diff --git a/sci/15383338.txt b/sci/15383338.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ac6dc42431eabf82f281834398fe3286e50c1147 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383338.txt @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +----- +--- 15383338 +I'm going to heal all the schizos on this board +--- 15383375 +>>15383338 (OP) +Please do daddy +--- 15383486 +>you were swimming this whole time +>but you just needed some water to get where you needed to go +--- 15383571 +>>15383338 (OP) +I don't exist. Neither do you. Nothing exists. The only way (MAYBE) out of this false illusion of being is death. It's time to become an hero. Goodbye. +--- 15383659 +>>15383338 (OP) +I don't want to be "healed" +--- 15383805 +>>15383659 +--- 15383959 +heal your attention whoring first diff --git a/sci/15383353.txt b/sci/15383353.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..94c7585dab79b192f4eaa9f021163c43fc7637ef --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383353.txt @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +----- +--- 15383353 +I am unable to even solve the most basic 10th grade math problems. + +How can I learn basic math from scratch as fast as possible? Any apps? +How can I learn math 100% completely from scratch as fast as possible? Any websites? Apps? Drugs? +--- 15383359 +>>15383353 (OP) +if you are trying to learn math fast then you arent trying to learn math + +the ability to work through a problem patiently will go much further than cramming information + +if you are serious you will start by understanding this idea +--- 15383377 +>>15383353 (OP) +Khan Academy is great for early stuff, though it’s not super in depth. + +As for drugs, try guanfacine. I’m using it instead of Adderall and it kind of works. I think. +--- 15383390 +>>15383353 (OP) +I lied on my resume and now my boss wants me to do a regression analysis for an upcoming project. How hard is it to learn? I only have a week. +--- 15383393 +>>15383390 +AI is your best fren. diff --git a/sci/15383401.txt b/sci/15383401.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..97ccf4ca23c1163051c25e720b64d67c0ea913db --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383401.txt @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +----- +--- 15383401 +Why does ITER not seem to follow the previous growth in triple product of fusion reactor thingies? + +This modified graph reflects how the nice upward trend of triple product has dropped dead. Does this mean the triple product is a meaningless metric? Perhaps the original projection was wrong? + +Or is ITER just a scam? +--- 15383422 +>>15383401 (OP) +Tokamak fusion in general is a scam. +--- 15383474 +>>15383422 +not only a scam, but a total waste. +we already have good nuclear power options that go unused, we don't need another one. +--- 15383815 +>>15383401 (OP) +could be universities or researchers or investors being paid off by nuclear and/or coal companies to not try +--- 15383835 +Nearly all of the world's available resources for research in the area have been dedicated to useless garbage like CERN's colliders which will never produce anything other than publications nobody is interested in. As a result, all of the research into anything which might produce a useful result which might benefit humanity is beneath mediocre. Planck institute was granted $4billion to build worthless neutrino studies, they spent all the money without producing anything & now they're demanding another $4billion to finish the job because +>we invested so much already +Sunk cost fallacy. +Isn't it amazing that these people who claim to be so great at math and other forms of logic are always running out of money? +--- 15383836 +>>15383401 (OP) +the anti-ITER folks unanimously have no argument, as you can see in this thread. just like the JWST haters who had to bite the pillow every night for the rest of their lives when it went up fine and continues to work fine to this day + +the best anti-ITER arguments inevitably lead to some /x/-tier thing about how the Soviets created the idea of a tokamak as a psyop to mislead western science. which is obviously grasping at straws since tokamaks have been making progress in many preliminary experiments in various different countries such as the Wendelstein machine + +all in all ITER has a good chance to achieve its design goals still, despite delays, and naysayers are the typical idiot crowd diff --git a/sci/15383412.txt b/sci/15383412.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d6fd8858c8cb958a5c8e834abb87411d24cb6964 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383412.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15383412 +Hypothetically, if I wanted to build a thorium reactor in a futuristic version of minecraft just like our own reality, how would I go about obtaining the materials, in Minecraft, to build it? I'm thinking a small scale 2 Kw generator. Thanks in advance Anon! +--- 15383430 +https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/icbm-classic +--- 15383439 +2000 watts is nothing. A gasoline generator can easily get you more power. They sell them everywhere. If you want nuclear at least go polonium cause it is hot as hell and I personally think the fuel of future terminators. diff --git a/sci/15383612.txt b/sci/15383612.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b05d30dd615c8dbd8628d4a823e6bc1f11fd577a --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383612.txt @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +----- +--- 15383612 +Imperial Edition + +Last thread: >>15349846 → + +This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM. +>Discussion on academia based career progression +>Discussion on penetrating industry from academia +>Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia! + +Resources for protecting yourself from academic marxists: +>https://www.thefire.org/ (US) +>https://www.jccf.ca/ (Canada) + +Information resource: +>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/ +>*The Chad author is seeking additional input to diversify the content into containing all STEM fields. Said author regularly views these /scg/ threads. + +No anons have answered your question? Perhaps try posting it here: >https://academia.stackexchange.com/ + +An archive of all the previous editions of /scg/: +>>>>>>>https://warosu.org/sci/ +--- 15383626 +Does anyone have experience with doing a postdoc in Switzerland? The salaries are enticing, but the cost of living is apparently high as well. I also have little understanding of the general academic landscape/vibe (i.e. is it impossible to navigate as a foreigner, is there any great cultural peculiarity making life intolerable and so on). I'm also told they have pathways to becoming a permanent scientist without professorship/tenure, which might be nice for me since I have little interest in all the crap that comes with running an actual research group but I like the science. I don't know if that is some sort of a career trap however. +--- 15383703 +fuck, cunt, I was going to make a "Hogwarts Edition" +--- 15383712 +>>15383703 +more like dogfarts lmoa + +try being faster next time chud +--- 15383713 +Chem majors +--- 15383854 +What would a PhD in electrical engineering actually net me? I'm a week from finishing my master's and while I feel like I hate working I also can't stand the thought of not going as far as I can. If I were to do a PhD it would be either on some sort of RF metamaterial research or utilizing machine learning to build upon data collected by antennas in another project I helped with. In RF specifically does a PhD help you get into the research positions at defense contractors, or are you better off just working up the ladder? +--- 15383977 +>>15383626 +Wondering this too, have an interview for one coming up soon. +--- 15384014 +>>15383612 (OP) +1/2 +/scg/ I need your opinion. I am bored to hell and back in my current job. This is my background: +>In Europe +>Bachelor in non-meme engineering +>6 months of Internship at one of the suppliers for OEMS, following a 20h/week work-position for the full duration of my master (excluding thesis time) +>Do simulations, expand the models and verify results with hardware test and present these results with my supervisor to the customer +>Focus during my studies was mostly on simulation. 3d flow sims during the bachelor and 0d/1d-sims during the master with a bigger focus on ecus, leaning to cs and embedded at the end. +>Finish master +>Get a job at a different supplier in a role doing like 20% of the work, which an intern could do, because it is basic data processing. +>Write scripts in python to automate my shit, tell noone. +>50% of the week are spent in meetings +>Fully remote, so I started to fuck around with 3d-printing and CAD again, but meet all my deadlines so everyone is happy. +>pay is fine + +I just want to prevent my brain to rot and get lazy. The processes are so incredibly slow. I just want to continue learning and appliying my knowledge. That's why I got the 3D-printer to get back into CAD. Aside from that I continue to brush up on my EE-knowledge and run some simulations, write C++ for microcontrollers and a few other things. I started to document my stuff in a big latex-file to comment the incremental improvements. But it feels a bit wasted. I don't know, if there is a possibility to make anything useful out of this. Be it for other people, for an additional income or just to stay mentally sharp. +--- 15384022 +>>15384014 +2/3 +What would you do? No, two fulltime jobs are not possible in this nany-state. Though I wrote down a few options, which I had in mind. +1a) Change positions - same company - upwards +>As my deadline have been always on point and the customer was more than pleased, I got included in more and more meetings with higher ups, which just showes me, that 80% of this "work" is just playing the messenger. +>would most likely move me to some team lead trash which I don't want +>not happening anyway because too fresh in the company +>big increase in responsibilities +1b) Change positions - same company - sideways +>more technical stuff to do +>become the guy everyone is waiting for in terms of code/modeling/simulating etc. +>most likely no pay increase, marginal at best +2) Change positions - different company +>Will most likely have to apply for junior positions again, because HR does not care for my 3 years of part-time work, which had far more reponsibilities than my current job, without all the meme-agile trash +>They will laugh at my salary expectation, because junior with 1YOE +>90% of positions are no longer fully remote +>Therefore more wasted time on commuting + more money spent, which will outweigh the higher salary they will offer +>Maybe feel more satisfied with the work I do and learn there. But maybe this is hopeful wishing. +3) Stay at position + do teaching at local uni +Honestly this would be nice. I like teaching and showing stuff to people. We had a dude in my Bachelors, who was just on a contract per semester to teach, so not an academic employee. I'd be down to prepare slides and pass on knowledge. Plus: this is independant income to my current job. +--- 15384030 +>>15384022 +3/3 +4) Try to develope a concrete product from all the private projects I did and stuff I learned in uni +This might be something for the long run, becuase I have rather 50 small ideas, instead of a big one, but I am so used to coninueing to work on my private stuff, that 12-14 hours at the computer feel normal to me. Also please no /fit/ advice. I do enough cardio and strength-exercise to be in reasonable shape. + +Any thoughts? Sorry for the blogpost. +--- 15384293 +i'm getting a BSc in Computer Science since it has always been my passion but only now i'm getting worried about my jobs prospects. +for example all the graduates i met are working in front-end development which is something i already knew how to do before enrolling in university and isn't much interesting either. +what do i need to study to be able to get a change to work at FAANG or other big companies? i feel like i'm not learning anything here because i always explored things on my own and all the interesting stuff i discovered up to now have always been of the kind "introduction to X" which is never enough to study something in depth. +i like programming but i want to apply it to important and interesting stu +--- 15384308 +>>15384293 +Try to find bugs for google. They'll give you money for it. +--- 15384312 +>>15384293 +>i like programming but i want to apply it to important and interesting stu +Oh God, are you still alive anon????? +--- 15384369 +Why the fuck is academia so stressful? I thought I was just going to get to study stuff and get the freedom to do my own project, but my supervisor is on my ass about grants and purchases and shit. +He might actually fuck my shit if I don't convince him the stuff I'm getting a quote for is the right stuff, and I have no idea what I'm doing since I'm a computational guy not experimentalist. It's kind of my own fault too since he gave me almost a month to decide my equipment but I was fumbling in the dark the whole time. + +I didn't think it was going to be like this tbhwyfamilias. +--- 15384428 +>>15383612 (OP) +What are PhD salaries like in the US? From what I understand it's not really a salary but a stipend? +--- 15384450 +Alright, which countries should an American with no degree be targeting for a quality stem degree on the cheap in english in either europe or east asia? Long story short, went to uni at 18 and dropped out since I didn't want to be in life ending debt for a useless degree. Wagie'd my way to having a good amount in savings and realize that I need a degree to not be poor. Which countries and unis should I be targeting? Which fields of study are broad enough so I don't pigeon hole myself in the job market? I've had an aptitude for IT waging but I'd rather avoid that field(IT side of things as well as programming) since its being hollowed out by pajeets and mbas. +--- 15384478 +Posting here a question I wrote in the wrong thread lmao + +Is it nowadays a bad idea/death sentence academically speaking to do a mathematics PhD in Russia? + +t.french diff --git a/sci/15383656.txt b/sci/15383656.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..cc51468dd7a5c7b4c4d40282d8366be4e52f1e2e --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383656.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 15383656 +what if the well we're in is just getting deeper... +--- 15383801 +my skeleton is itchy diff --git a/sci/15383747.txt b/sci/15383747.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..109b433b98479706f12fe6a90f88535ace90fc0d --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383747.txt @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +----- +--- 15383747 +ask for advice regarding all STEM olympiads ITT. +post problems, doubts and discuss the olympiads. +I'll post some resources and handouts if there's interest diff --git a/sci/15383760.txt b/sci/15383760.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..0c9dd6fedfba425ebb9a058cecef56d4a4875e9d --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383760.txt @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +----- +--- 15383760 +>5 weeks until teaching ends +>I can make it bros diff --git a/sci/15383785.txt b/sci/15383785.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2c6165577d25bf1339422b3bc84d74605e6d4d4d --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383785.txt @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +----- +--- 15383785 +Math and science aren't beautiful. Stop saying nerd shit. +--- 15383811 +mathematics is elegant +--- 15383877 +>>15383785 (OP) +--- 15384032 +>>15383785 (OP) +says the one posting beautiful math and science +--- 15384271 +>>15383785 (OP) +I-im sorry my goddesses... Please let me kiss your feet in apology... +--- 15384296 +You jerk off to hentai diff --git a/sci/15383804.txt b/sci/15383804.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3428c92d6fa25018d02318ac8a09510992b97e93 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383804.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 15383804 +Do any of you negroes just sit down after work and start doing differential equations to relax? Just asking. in a way that would be kind of cool diff --git a/sci/15383873.txt b/sci/15383873.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..de39bb53458d750cd548735fbe040573d1d51747 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383873.txt @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +----- +--- 15383890 +>>15383873 (OP) +They aren't (76 IQ average), India is sub saharan Africa tier shithole. +--- 15383909 +same thread started less than two weeks ago +https://warosu.org/sci/thread/15336273 +--- 15383915 +being smart isn't as important as hard work and perseverance + +also there is a billion of them so the cream rises to the top and gets scooped off +--- 15383922 +>>15383915 +94% of Indian population is Low income (<$10 per day) and poor (<$2 per day). +Your average Indian is an australoid abbo, over 50% of Indians depend on low grade feudal era tier agriculture for livelihood. +--- 15383944 +They were building fighter jets and rockets thousands of years ago so of course they're smart. +--- 15383996 +>>15383873 (OP) +Thank you very much sir India is very proud of sir India bitch bloody bloody superpower 2023 sir +--- 15384298 +>>15383873 (OP) +We aren’t, the reason we are perceived as smart in the west is coz the Indians you deal with are in the top 0.01% +--- 15384303 +Chinese are far smarter than Indians as a whole. +--- 15384317 +>>15383890 +>muh stats from 2002 +--- 15384327 +>>15384317 +Yeah I don't think the genetics of Jeets has changed since then. +--- 15384363 +>>15383996 +Reddit diff --git a/sci/15383897.txt b/sci/15383897.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ad4674ebd24b622b7c2ccf04b0ef4d44d009b4df --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383897.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15383897 +I made a few perhaps concluding discoveries as a result of sticking this on /lit/. I think it must be about done by now. If you haven't seen this, the big deal is that this geometry, regardless of what is on the page, has remarkable properties. It has multiple geometric coincidences that are not mathematical identities, they just come out to be remarkably close. There is also a remarkable pseudo identity, if you like, of the hexagon perimeter being of ~equal length the the Great Triangle, Pentagram and Pyramid. and is astonishingly ~coincident with the Pentagram. This is the kind of geometrical curio that the Hermetecists loved. Durer's Vesica Piscis, the hexapentagon thing, isnt exact. +But it also tells a story. Each of these elements is descriptive. They are generally either a highly pertinent masonic symbol, or an event, specifically the three science shifting astronomical events of the era. +There are, when you put the page back, an epic number of exquisite points of correlation. My favourite being the Poet Ape carved onto the i of Imprinted, but there's a shed-full more. If I've just dreamed up a geometry of this unfathomable complexity, and got it to fit into that page, I am one clever guy. +I stuck a video with a nice tune for you here, it's a bit fast, that's deliberate, You will have to pause and read if you want to use that as a description. +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEvdjH21Xg [Embed] diff --git a/sci/15383939.txt b/sci/15383939.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5cd0f323c0351fddf11e40f3f1c394f2c0b40589 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383939.txt @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +----- +--- 15383939 +How do quantum computers create the superpositions that they rely on? +--- 15383991 +they create entangled particles +--- 15383992 +>>15383991 +entangled how? +--- 15384018 +>immmmaa gooooonnaa quanttuuuuuuuuummmm!! +--- 15384082 +>how do quantum computers…. quantum!!! +think about it for 0.5 picoseconds midwit +--- 15384252 +>>15383992 +most /sci/entists just parrot popscoi factoids taken from their favourite goytubers +>>15384082 +Case in point, these retards parrot things without having any technical understanding +--- 15384281 +>>15383992 +They take two particles and give them opposite variables, if one particle is changed they change the other one, entanglement itself does not exist in nature +--- 15384418 +>>15383939 (OP) +They can entangle qubits (eg: electron spin states) via the Hadamard gate. This is currently implemented via microwaves but I'm unfamiliar with the process, see: +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_logic_gate +https://quantumcomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/14576/how-are-the-ibms-and-googles-hadamard-gates-fabricated-and-operated diff --git a/sci/15383955.txt b/sci/15383955.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1744771e03641dd2cd94e7f43590f7e561992407 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383955.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 15383955 +why did nobody tell me that the epigenetic material contains exponentially more genetic material than the DNA inside the nucleus of a cell does by many orders of magnitude. this is incredible all this DNA must be doing something and we have not even mapped it +--- 15383965 +There's evidence that many traditional religious practices can affect it in interesting ways such as prayer, meditation, fasting, sacred springs. +--- 15383998 +I think you might be confused about what epigenetics is, as it is not referring to the DNA sequence (and we have mapped the entire human genome). It refers to everything other than the DNA sequence which affects how the DNA is 'interpreted', such as bound proteins (like transcription factors), chromatin organization, chemical marks (such as methylation or those present on histones). All of those are physically within the nucleus. +--- 15384161 +I always thought of epigenetics as switches that turn genes on and off. +--- 15384164 +get into gerald pollacks gel/4th phase water, interesting implications for cell and dna function +--- 15384184 +>>15383955 (OP) +I think you may have confused "DNA which apparently has no function, as in being random patterns and do not code for a protein" and epigenetics, they are not the same +--- 15384189 +>>15384164 +>gerald pollack +>/pol/-ACK diff --git a/sci/15383957.txt b/sci/15383957.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..316bcd5bfe809c93c3fb463ca05aaf48d49374ba --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15383957.txt @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +----- +--- 15383957 +Let [math]x+1p[/math] be a number next to x on the number line, ie. x + 0.000...01. + +[math] 0.999... = 1 - 1p != 1[/math] +--- 15383966 +you jack off to child pornography diff --git a/sci/15384001.txt b/sci/15384001.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..84de507ee156f302a7ce588d20a15bd33fa05697 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384001.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 15384001 +From a scientific point of view: Are there like methods i can google that are used by big succesful entities (us navy, google, spacex,etc) to balance work and rest? +Im trying to get my life to a place of maximum productivity and success and if ind this is a problem i have perfect force of will whic means i can force myself to get up at any time and do whatever is needed at any time im basically a super hero, the problem is that when i work too much without rest the work quality starts to decrease sharply, same with little sleep, so i sometimes rest a little and it works, but i cant find the right balance i feel like i rest too much at times, is there ascientific objectively undeniable proven to work method to do this? (balance rest and work in the most efficient manner) +--- 15384118 +>>15384001 (OP) +you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media +--- 15384167 +>>15384118 +this is social media? +--- 15384277 +bump, even super heroes need help, scientifically speaking, please +--- 15384365 +>>15384001 (OP) +Bumping for this really interested.i'n my case i take naps. +--- 15384421 +like what does the navy uses? +do they go "yeah work 10 hours straight no stop of any kind no matter how hard the task" + +prolly not +but they also prolly dont go "yeah man sure whateverinooos, take a rest whenever you feel like it man its not like theres a hurry" + +It's very likely they have some sort of method, named after a guy, probably german, imagine something like "Geschrunderleit method" or somtehing like that which goes "15 minutes break every 1,34 hours of work on mondays and on tuesdays... " +etc etc + +biut soemthing goodly godly good, not shitty things for bored housewives or losers i need and deserve only the best of best +--- 15384443 +>>15384001 (OP) +Get good at lucid dreaming and start working in your sleep. +--- 15384486 +>>15384001 (OP) +>google +Do you work at a desk all day? diff --git a/sci/15384004.txt b/sci/15384004.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4e3325f9997101dbfa20560e35465c19d1b92b92 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384004.txt @@ -0,0 +1,18 @@ +----- +--- 15384004 +could this be used to higher the payload of drones? + +1.) Spin payload +2.) Load in drone +3.) Drop on Vatink +--- 15384005 +Kontext: +https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mnmLqHL7Bg4 +--- 15384015 +>>15384004 (OP) +>OMG, I INVENTED AN ANTIGRAVITY MACHINE +>LOOK AT IT, IT GOES UP AFTER GOING DOWN! +--- 15384187 +>>15384015 +i constantly is 6 grams lighter because it had potential engery loaded in the curled up strings? +immagen a 1kg cylinder payload that hangs from threads and slowly gets lowerd. since its a drone you have more than 100 meter to work with diff --git a/sci/15384012.txt b/sci/15384012.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..46bb40cf44feac286b3bd5b5874dd0eb8f37b792 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384012.txt @@ -0,0 +1,33 @@ +----- +--- 15384012 +Why are they so retarded? +--- 15384017 +>>15384012 (OP) +because they're bugs +--- 15384027 +are you going to spam one of these threads for every country? +--- 15384124 +>>15384012 (OP) +>Why are they so retarded? +sooner or later the west either destroys the ccp or the ccp will destroy western democracy, there is no fucking way two superpowers will such different ethos can cohabit the planet, even the soviets were more similar to the west, cause at the end of the day their populations were still mostly European and christian.. Chinese people probably see foreigners as less than them, i would argue they don't even see us as "humans", if war ever happens they will commit incredible atrocities, like Japan did to them back in ww2 +--- 15384157 +>>15384124 +>"foreigners aren't human" +>literally worship a foreigner (marx) who gave them their founding ideology +>entire state would collapse at an instant without said foreigner made foreign ideology +>all of native chinese culture was eradicated to appease other foreigners over foreigner made foreign ideology +kek +changs can't cope with this +--- 15384203 +Chinese workplace gore thread? +--- 15384205 +>>15384017 +--- 15384212 +>wins every IMO +>from shithole to superpower in 50 years +>mutts soon to be eradicated via hypersonic nuclear warheads +lol +--- 15384280 +>>15384212 +>superpower +>never won a war diff --git a/sci/15384021.txt b/sci/15384021.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..d017ae53b9da6a3840953232fdf8a8070b3cb2a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384021.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 15384021 +I am looking for papers where it is shown that by stacking more layers, neural networks can unlock new "capabilities". diff --git a/sci/15384186.txt b/sci/15384186.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..eaf0473759c28b7e402fc153bd3d2524e9c91b16 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384186.txt @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +----- +--- 15384186 +plants have no brain, therefore no neural activity, yet they are capable of interpreting signals and communication; forms of intelligence. + +thus the brain can't be the seat of intelligence and neurobiology is wrong. +--- 15384206 +>>15384186 (OP) +>plants have no brain +Can they learn at a Geometric rate? +>yet they are capable of interpreting signals and communication +"Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws." - Confucius +>thus the brain can't be the seat of intelligence +https://youtu.be/J1RSPy9MdBc [Embed] + +"Love is one thing, knowledge is another." +Egyptian Proverb +--- 15384226 +A plant does not choose to release aerosols which trigger neighbouring plants into increasing neurotoxin in their foliage. The release of such aerosols is triggered by physical damage in the presence of grazers. + +In a similar manner, the tree does not decide to exchange sugars for minerals with the mycelium network. This exchange is instead initiated my the mycelium making a connection, then diffusion and interactions between cell membranes modulate the exchange. + +This is not really intelligence, it's more like something mechanical. +--- 15384237 +>>15384226 +this angers and confuses the schizo who aligns himself always against the current paradigm (see the poster above you) +--- 15384243 +>>15384186 (OP) +>computers have no brain, therefore no neural activity, yet they are capable of interpreting signals and communication; forms of intelligence. +--- 15384256 +>>15384226 +>A plant does not choose to release +You did not choose to release coom. + +You did not choose to yelp like a bitch from a spider. + +You did not choose to be retarded. + +Youre a slave to your instincts by the very fact you think in "choose". + +>>15384237 +>Simllistic dipshit post a revealing of his inner retardation. + +No, youre an idiot too. Neither of you know shit about Cognition, let alone sub-animal intelligence. + +https://youtu.be/ZmRaIQOlxTY [Embed] + +THIS POST CONFUSES AND ANGERS THE NPC. +--- 15384266 +>>15384186 (OP) +hormone signaling is not intelligence + +a plant has no cns, no consciousness, no sensory organs. a plant is a material being and is not sentient by any metric. +--- 15384272 +>>15384266 +>and is not sentient by any metric +Neither are you, youre simply a biomolecular electrochemical reaction, nothing more. When I stick you with a knife you simply make noise, pain doesnt exist in humans. + +>"nuh uh, i feel pain" says the mouthbreathing retard +No, youre a physiological reaction using external signals for internal processes, just like a blade a grass. + +No different, human. +--- 15384356 +>>15384186 (OP) +Plant are indeed intelligent, you are right. Intelligence is merely a matter of complexity. The brain is more complex than plants, and thus we are more intelligent. Neurobiology remains correct. Are you having trouble with any of this? +--- 15384379 +>>15384226 +Do you 'choose' anything that you do? Is your writing merely a complex reaction to stimuli? diff --git a/sci/15384265.txt b/sci/15384265.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..042bff42e14e70aff762a18198eaba92c5a1f021 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384265.txt @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +----- +--- 15384265 +The march 40 porcelain assassin rifle or msr is the best rifle ever invented. It fires 10 1 mm porcelain projectiles with an speed of 40 march. +No visible entry wound. You just have 10 stroke lines in your body bleeding you slowly dry. +--- 15384314 +>>15384265 (OP) +meds +--- 15384318 +>>15384314 +what's the maximal number of brain strokes at ones someone ever survived i bet its below 10. diff --git a/sci/15384275.txt b/sci/15384275.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..305347008dcb3503473b0113a6e04c56179ec3e4 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384275.txt @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +----- +--- 15384275 +What is the science behind demographic collapse? +--- 15384295 +>>15384275 (OP) +Google government's birth rate statistics by ethnicity. Compare to immigration/emigration flow. +--- 15384310 +>>15384275 (OP) +It isn't happening, Chud. It's a racist sexist conspiracy theory with no basis in reality. And it's a good thing that it's happening. +--- 15384311 +>>15384275 (OP) +women diff --git a/sci/15384322.txt b/sci/15384322.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..538df6d2c669edb355cb7722c218b7acfcdfcf7a --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384322.txt @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +----- +--- 15384322 +>be me +>first year phd student in combinatorial optimization +>got severe burnout at the end of my master's degree program +>still decided to pursue phd to avoid getting drafted and dying in ukraine for jewtin +>naturally have little motivation +>research pace is slow as a turtle +>phd advisor is mad +>lab director is mad +>i'm getting more and more depressed +>one day my roommate suddenly brings a wizard hat from some cosplay event or whatever shit he's into +>puts it on me while i'm trying to read another boring paper +>autism kicks in +>start larping as a wizard for keks +>pretend that papers are obscure magic writings +>pretend that my shitty heuristics are powerful spells +>get a sudden motivation surge +>do more in one day than i did during two previous weeks +>start doing this regularly +>performance skyrockets +>start getting results that are good enough to be published +>lab director boasts about having such a hardworking and motivated young man in his lab +>life is great + +Why don't you take the wizardpill, anon? +--- 15384324 +>>15384322 (OP) +I believe you anon. +--- 15384325 +>>15384322 (OP) +Just get a job nigger, leave your shithole cuntry if needed. Imagine getting a PhD in 2023 +--- 15384347 +>>15384324 +I want to believe it so hard to be true that there is no distinction between wanting to believe it and believing it diff --git a/sci/15384350.txt b/sci/15384350.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..1a636d79653dfb4177dc587628645ec40fea2c3d --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384350.txt @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +----- +--- 15384350 +Why is it so hard to make humanoid robots? diff --git a/sci/15384352.txt b/sci/15384352.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..87ad9bdf71151f6ed59f3067f72330f7e456a1eb --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384352.txt @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +----- +--- 15384352 +How many careers have been wasted persuing artificial intelligence? Layering abstractions over hardware made of rare elements, better suited to calculation than learning, and requiring complicated factories... when we had energy-efficient hardware dedicated to learning, made of common elements all along! + +https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuron.2022.09.001 +--- 15384440 +>>15384352 (OP) +>put neurones on a chip +>they die +wow that was incredible anon +--- 15384464 +I agree that "le AI" is fake and gay, but if noorons are so smart why are they so shit at crunching numbers? +--- 15384475 +>>15384440 +>Cortical cells from the dissected cortices of rodent embryos can be grown on MEAs in nutrient-rich media and maintained for months +>maintained for months +Keeping cells alive in a dish is hard, it's true. We're not going to have cells in smartphones for a few decades. But if instead you're putting them in servers, there will be room for a life-support system. +So, what's the biological limit for neural lifespan? +https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1217505110 +>their lifespan is limited only by the maximum lifespan of the organism diff --git a/sci/15384433.txt b/sci/15384433.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..26aef6c35e283bf829cc57c1b22c38b79ef82059 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384433.txt @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +----- +--- 15384433 +Hey do you guys think that AI will soon be able to solve unsolved problems in math? + +I asked character.ai to create an efficient prime checking program and it's not efficient but it did create one that works somehow. + +The original code only had a couple errors that I had to fix but this program works pretty well otherwise. Maybe somebody should make an AI that can do actual math instead of programming. +--- 15384437 +>>15384433 (OP) +No because AI only gives statistically probable answers, which a new solution wouldn't be. You need AGI for that +--- 15384439 +>wow this glm that had a functioning prime checker in its training was almost able to make a functioning prime checker +Look up proof assistants diff --git a/sci/15384472.txt b/sci/15384472.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..62b6a554e5b373d31bfa343a60ee9e7a6db81705 --- /dev/null +++ b/sci/15384472.txt @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +----- +--- 15384472 +What can be done to reverse the population decline in the Mouse Utopia experiment? And at what stage can it still be done? +--- 15384481 +driven by fear signals in the urine that caused a stress overload according to one theory +--- 15384487 +>>15384472 (OP) +Don't have severe multigenerational inbreeding. https://gwern.net/mouse-utopia