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What are some best practices when it comes to storing secrets (api keys, passwords, ...) for usage in Python? Obviously I won't store them in git,but I need to access them without prompting the user for a password
2019-03-04T07:36:07.381900
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:36:07.381900
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<@Jonas> :taco:
2019-03-04T07:36:34.382500
Jung
pythondev_help_Jung_2019-03-04T07:36:34.382500
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Just a file placed outside of version control?
2019-03-04T07:36:36.382800
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:36:36.382800
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what is the environment? an end user's machine or a server?
2019-03-04T07:38:41.383400
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:38:41.383400
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Server, both cloud and physical machine at the customer. Must work without Internet access. All keys/passwords/secrets are limited to that customer, so if they figure out how to read the data they only get access to their own stuff
2019-03-04T07:40:25.385000
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:40:25.385000
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in this case I'd probably allow for configuration via environment variable or config file. potentially via CLI argument as well
2019-03-04T07:42:06.385900
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:42:06.385900
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this lets them figure out how to store these things securely (or not, it's up to them), and keeps your application agnostic to those details
2019-03-04T07:43:11.386500
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:43:11.386500
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We are responsible for the servers as well as the applications, they just get a box from us and plug in, so we are responsible for everything. Env. variables or config file is probably good enough, then we can use some proper password handling on our side to store everyones keys/secrets
2019-03-04T07:44:48.388100
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:44:48.388100
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ah, I didn't realize you would be handling the full environment.
2019-03-04T07:45:48.388500
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:45:48.388500
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well without an internet connection how will the handling of keys/secrets work?
2019-03-04T07:46:12.389000
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:46:12.389000
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and what are these keys/secrets for?
2019-03-04T07:46:24.389200
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:46:24.389200
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We assume that we have Internet access most of the times, but it might drop and our system should work regardless. It's both S3 keys as well as password to the local Raspberry Pis and databases et c.
2019-03-04T07:48:56.391900
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:48:56.391900
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Obviously the S3 integration will not work without an Internet access, but the local RPis should be accessable regardless.
2019-03-04T07:49:22.392500
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:49:22.392500
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are local raspberry pis the machine it itself is on or some other machine on the same network?
2019-03-04T07:49:59.393000
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:49:59.393000
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are the databases local or remote?
2019-03-04T07:50:16.393400
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:50:16.393400
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There is one central local server and then any amount of other local machines such as RPi.
2019-03-04T07:52:06.394800
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:52:06.394800
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I'd probably centralize any remote services you need under a single set of user credentials and use IAM to delegate access, and then yeah, have your application pull down any other credentials needed at start - presuming that part can require an internet connection, you only need one set of credentials
2019-03-04T07:56:49.397300
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:56:49.397300
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and you can provide that to the applications via the mechanisms discussed above
2019-03-04T07:57:08.397700
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T07:57:08.397700
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good idea <@Karoline> :taco:. will investigate that track
2019-03-04T07:58:51.398200
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:58:51.398200
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<@Karoline> :taco: (doesn't work when editing messages?)
2019-03-04T07:59:54.398900
Yaeko
pythondev_help_Yaeko_2019-03-04T07:59:54.398900
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yeah it doesn't pick it up unless it's part of the first message
2019-03-04T08:00:10.399200
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T08:00:10.399200
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pythondev
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:pacman:
2019-03-04T08:00:16.399400
Karoline
pythondev_help_Karoline_2019-03-04T08:00:16.399400
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`&gt;&gt;&gt; {frozenset([1, 2]), frozenset([2, 1])} == {frozenset([1, 2])}` `True`
2019-03-04T08:30:25.401900
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2019-03-04T08:30:25.401900
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pythondev
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Hello everyone. What the best library for convert string with a date to python DateTime format? I have many different strings and many strings look different. For example: ``` 1/2/2019 6:32:00 PM ``` Or ``` 1.2.2019 16:32:00 ``` etc Thank you very much.
2019-03-04T08:45:58.402300
Jung
pythondev_help_Jung_2019-03-04T08:45:58.402300
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`arrow` is a great datetime lib. I’ve linked to the section on datetime creation from a string. It can handle parsing ISO-8601 compliant date strings without a format argument, but for any other format you will need to provide the formatting yourself (and that will be true all datetime libs as far as I am aware) <https://arrow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#creation>
2019-03-04T08:53:17.404600
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T08:53:17.404600
1,551,689,597.4046
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thanks for pointing me to that library <@Clemmie>, I can definitely use it for one of my projects!
2019-03-04T08:54:48.405700
Genaro
pythondev_help_Genaro_2019-03-04T08:54:48.405700
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<@Clemmie> :taco:
2019-03-04T09:34:26.406100
Jung
pythondev_help_Jung_2019-03-04T09:34:26.406100
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I need to find dbg/debuginfo (both deb and rpm) packages in an application repository depending on the app version and OS (centos, ubuntu, debian, etc). Does anyone have an example of a good python crawler that I can use for this purpose?
2019-03-04T10:05:00.408100
Jennifer
pythondev_help_Jennifer_2019-03-04T10:05:00.408100
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Just installed a fresh copy of Python on a new laptop and it seems it didn't set any environment variables. Is that normal? I thought there would be a variable that refers to Python.exe?
2019-03-04T10:07:21.409500
Bobbi
pythondev_help_Bobbi_2019-03-04T10:07:21.409500
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What kind of environment variable? Why would you think that?
2019-03-04T10:20:15.409800
Jonas
pythondev_help_Jonas_2019-03-04T10:20:15.409800
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<@Jimmy> :taco: for your help.
2019-03-04T10:23:14.410500
Jamey
pythondev_help_Jamey_2019-03-04T10:23:14.410500
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Not sure for what that is but thanks
2019-03-04T10:35:54.410800
Jimmy
pythondev_help_Jimmy_2019-03-04T10:35:54.410800
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i currently have the following for an Elasticsearch query class and two files worth of queries. I want to be able to have the queries being part of the instantiated class if possible without moving all of the query functions into the class itself? Is there a way to do this with some kind of inheritance? Let me know if anything is unclear thanks!
2019-03-04T11:20:51.411000
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:20:51.411000
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the two files are queries specific to independent ES indexes
2019-03-04T11:21:13.411600
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:21:13.411600
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I'm confused by ```I want to be able to have the queries being part of the instantiated class if possible without moving all of the query functions into the class itself?``` do these query functions already exist?
2019-03-04T11:23:47.412000
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T11:23:47.412000
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Or is `first_query()` an example of one?
2019-03-04T11:24:04.412300
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T11:24:04.412300
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just an example and they do exist. I have one file that has the class defined with all the key components such as IP and port, and I've recently added the ability to parse indexes and doc_type to the class. I have to files containing queries for the ES using this Model, originally each query instantiated a new class instance and used that for the query. I was wondering if it would be possible to get around that by making the queries a part of the class without copy pasting them into the actual class code and making it some several hundred line file
2019-03-04T11:26:28.414900
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:26:28.414900
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so: ``` class Foo: ... def query(): Foo().query() ``` is what i had
2019-03-04T11:27:12.415700
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:27:12.415700
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but I don't think it's right, though I could be wrong
2019-03-04T11:27:24.416000
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:27:24.416000
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I would say don’t compromise clarity and readability for some amorphous idea that the file is “too long” if the queries are cognitively tied to the class, then make them part of it
2019-03-04T11:29:01.417500
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:29:01.417500
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If all these queries rely on the same data (in this case, IP/port, indices, doc_types) then moving them into the class is probably the best option
2019-03-04T11:29:03.417600
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T11:29:03.417600
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:thumbsup: cheers guys, at least i think I'm moving it in the right direction (i think) haha
2019-03-04T11:29:54.419100
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:29:54.419100
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too much second guessing
2019-03-04T11:30:00.419500
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:30:00.419500
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If they are not, then you probably want something where the class sets up the connections and workflow, and then fires a query. You could have a method ``` class Foo: def run(query_function): query_function() ```
2019-03-04T11:30:24.420200
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:30:24.420200
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^ was going to be my second suggestion
2019-03-04T11:30:41.420800
Lillia
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and call it with ``` def a(): do_a_query_here.... foo.run(a) ```
2019-03-04T11:30:55.421400
Clemmie
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FWIW you can also go the other way around, where you pass the `Foo` object into the query function. Think of how you pass a database engine/connection to some frameworks.
2019-03-04T11:32:08.423200
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T11:32:08.423200
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ye, I've migrated to having a single instance shared across the application with the index/doc_type loaded by the Flask app instance config info. However i want to be able to change the index in a query function. This meant i needed a separate ES connection instance for each endpoint request which can accept a custom data. currently just banging my head and second guessing :sweat_smile:
2019-03-04T11:33:15.424400
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:33:15.424400
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ye, so like a decorator?
2019-03-04T11:33:21.424700
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:33:21.424700
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^great suggestion if you have queries that can be run by different backends
2019-03-04T11:33:31.425100
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:33:31.425100
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Not a decorator, because you want it to be dynamic
2019-03-04T11:34:02.425500
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:34:02.425500
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you have an abstract class SearchClass
2019-03-04T11:34:17.425900
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:34:17.425900
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that defines an abstract method `run`
2019-03-04T11:34:27.426200
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:34:27.426200
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you implement `run` for however individual backends run their query type
2019-03-04T11:34:58.426900
Clemmie
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then your queries take a `klass` parameter and do this ``` def query1(klass): klass.run(query1_specifics....) ``` You can even type hint that the `klass` needs to implement `SearchClass`, or just handle the attribute and notimplemented errors
2019-03-04T11:36:48.429000
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T11:36:48.429000
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:taco: <@Clemmie> for elaboration
2019-03-04T11:39:21.429600
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T11:39:21.429600
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<@Clemmie> <@Lillia> :taco: :taco: thanks guys appreciate it!
2019-03-04T11:41:26.430100
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:41:26.430100
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I think migrating the functions to the class makes the most sense for me, appreciate the extra info tho
2019-03-04T11:43:42.430900
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:43:42.430900
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I have imported a module into another one that I want to run. But it doesn't run, so for example; ``` import module_b #######some other code mobule_b ``` Is this correct way of doing it as at the moment the module is not being run
2019-03-04T11:52:11.433500
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:52:11.433500
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you need to run the specific function
2019-03-04T11:52:47.434000
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:52:47.434000
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so importing the module only loads the file containing the functions, you need to actually run the specific function you want to
2019-03-04T11:53:21.434600
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:53:21.434600
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Isn't there a way just to run the whole module. Could I use `subrocess` or something like that?
2019-03-04T11:54:47.435400
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:54:47.435400
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sorry `subprocess`
2019-03-04T11:55:11.436200
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:55:11.436200
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you can do the if '__main__' == ... and that works, but only if you call that module using python
2019-03-04T11:55:18.436700
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:55:18.436700
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What do you mean "the whole module"? Is there an `if __name__ == '__main__'`?
2019-03-04T11:55:18.436800
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T11:55:18.436800
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The whole module will be "run" when you import it.
2019-03-04T11:55:20.436900
Melynda
pythondev_help_Melynda_2019-03-04T11:55:20.436900
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ah ok
2019-03-04T11:55:52.437200
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:55:52.437200
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I want to run it after a certain function
2019-03-04T11:56:02.437500
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:56:02.437500
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why not bundle the code into a function and run that?
2019-03-04T11:56:24.438400
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:56:24.438400
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guess I will rearrange some code to call a specific function
2019-03-04T11:56:24.438500
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:56:24.438500
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it was a module I built a while back that was stand-alone, but now need to invoke it from another module
2019-03-04T11:56:59.439500
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:56:59.439500
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you can bundle it into a separate function, but also have the `if __name__ == '__main__'`
2019-03-04T11:57:29.440000
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:57:29.440000
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that way you can run it stand alone or import and run it
2019-03-04T11:57:38.440300
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T11:57:38.440300
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cool thanks everyone <@Mica> <@Melynda> <@Lillia> :taco:
2019-03-04T11:58:40.441200
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T11:58:40.441200
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sorry one more thing <@Mica> should I have `if __name__ == '__main__'` in every module?
2019-03-04T12:06:28.442100
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T12:06:28.442100
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nah, just the ones you might want to run independently
2019-03-04T12:06:48.442400
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T12:06:48.442400
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ok that makes sense
2019-03-04T12:07:03.442900
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-03-04T12:07:03.442900
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so you only put it in files where you might want to `python file.py` the specific file
2019-03-04T12:07:04.443000
Mica
pythondev_help_Mica_2019-03-04T12:07:04.443000
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<https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Lib/json/tool.py> is a really cool example of having a specific file in a module acting as a "main"
2019-03-04T12:08:27.443500
Lillia
pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T12:08:27.443500
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Hi, anyone used RotatingFileHandler for logging before? I wonder whether it deletes the old logs after specified number of backups file will be filled with logs. I mean, assume you have 5 backups with 20 MB each, and after you reached total of 100 MB of log, old logs will be deleted to reserve a space for upcoming logs.
2019-03-04T13:40:33.446400
Doretta
pythondev_help_Doretta_2019-03-04T13:40:33.446400
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I don't think so
2019-03-04T13:50:13.446600
Jonas
pythondev_help_Jonas_2019-03-04T13:50:13.446600
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IMO use logrotate for this
2019-03-04T13:50:21.447000
Jonas
pythondev_help_Jonas_2019-03-04T13:50:21.447000
1,551,707,421.447
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Actually, I am now experimenting this, and it looks like it is behaving in a way that i describe above. But still observing, will update here in case I find something else.
2019-03-04T13:58:19.448000
Doretta
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Seems like there is a problem, raising during logging and says that file being used by another process which I don't think so
2019-03-04T14:02:24.448800
Doretta
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Permission Error
2019-03-04T14:03:18.449000
Doretta
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I am opening a large csv file (4.6 GB) with a context manager
2019-03-04T14:16:30.450300
Alvina
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but I want to add an if statement (if filename.endswith('.gz') as file:
2019-03-04T14:16:47.450700
Alvina
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is there a way to do this without duplicating all of the code beneath the context manager?
2019-03-04T14:17:10.451100
Alvina
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None
2019-03-04T14:17:41.451700
Alvina
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One way to do it would be to create a helper function containing the `if` logic, which returns the file handle.
2019-03-04T14:18:09.453000
Sasha
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functions are first class objects, so you can "choose" which function you're going to use based on any conditions, and then use it one time
2019-03-04T14:18:35.454400
Jettie
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Go for clarity not cleverness here, do what <@Sasha> said
2019-03-04T14:19:01.456100
Lillia
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i.e., `opener = gzip.open if filename.endswith('.gz') else open`
2019-03-04T14:19:05.456500
Jettie
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but less ugly than this
2019-03-04T14:19:23.457300
Jettie
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```opener = open if filename.endswith('.gz'): opener = gzip.open with opener(file=filename, mode='r') as file: ...```
2019-03-04T14:20:04.459100
Lillia
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IMO
2019-03-04T14:20:09.459400
Lillia
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In python that shouldn’t be considered cleverness - it is one of the reasons to use python
2019-03-04T14:20:09.459500
Clemmie
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I more meant "don't put a ternary in the `with` statement" :smile:
2019-03-04T14:20:28.459800
Lillia
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oh, yeah,ok - don’t do that
2019-03-04T14:20:46.460200
Clemmie
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<@Lillia> testing now!
2019-03-04T14:24:00.464100
Alvina
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