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uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tihpr | i6tjqnd | 1,651,344,527 | 1,651,345,107 | 9 | 450 | There is nothing to be lost by employing the scattershot method. Compile your portfolio of image,video, copies of all applicable laws. Send it to your city/county representative, state rep/senator, US representative and ask each one of them for help. They all have staffers that engage in the minutiae of regulation every day and might have an approach that is novel and effective. | Not legal advice but I work construction and not sure what soil is like in Oregon. A good rain and a unsecured 6 foot cut is going to wash out and take the fence in that area. Angle of repose of most dirt is 1.5 ; 1. So for a 6 foot cut you want to lay it back 9 feet for it to be secure and safe. | 0 | 580 | 50 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tu9gn | i6t33d9 | 1,651,350,189 | 1,651,337,520 | 131 | 95 | Not a lawyer but I do work related earth moving fields. What are they building and when? If they cut a straight and easily erodible slope than you will be able to sue for the damage to your property and the collapsed fence if and when that occurs. Take lots of picture of your own property and fence. Try to take them from a consistent and easily reproduced location. So comparisons can be made. Store them in multiple safe locations. Request from the city the plot plan for your lot. In my area it would contain the as built elevations for the lot. If they are building a retaining wall… than most of your issues and concerns should be solved on completion. Walls above a certain height in my local require an engineer to check it. Building code often requires that walls above a certain height have a railing for safety. | Perhaps you could get a consultation with an engineering firm, with a report on the risks of the neighbor's project, and an estimate of the cost to finish the project in a safe way - how much to build a proper retaining wall, regrade, or etc. as needed. Then use that to negotiate with your neighbor. And potentially sue if the neighbor will not act. | 1 | 12,669 | 1.378947 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tu9gn | i6tlgiz | 1,651,350,189 | 1,651,345,914 | 131 | 64 | Not a lawyer but I do work related earth moving fields. What are they building and when? If they cut a straight and easily erodible slope than you will be able to sue for the damage to your property and the collapsed fence if and when that occurs. Take lots of picture of your own property and fence. Try to take them from a consistent and easily reproduced location. So comparisons can be made. Store them in multiple safe locations. Request from the city the plot plan for your lot. In my area it would contain the as built elevations for the lot. If they are building a retaining wall… than most of your issues and concerns should be solved on completion. Walls above a certain height in my local require an engineer to check it. Building code often requires that walls above a certain height have a railing for safety. | is this an HOA neighborhood? I know HOA’s are generally hated but sometimes they come in handy. | 1 | 4,275 | 2.046875 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tcz0m | i6tu9gn | 1,651,342,001 | 1,651,350,189 | 49 | 131 | Sorry if I missed it above, but what is the digging for? Is a pool or some other structure going in? I think the action you’re looking at is called duty of support. If excavation causes damage to your property, then your neighbor can be liable for damages. At this point a couple hundred bucks to consult with a real estate attorney would be well spent. If the city isn’t able/willing to stop the excavation and you are looking at irreversible damage then an emergency court order enforced by the sheriff’s dept. might be another way to go. | Not a lawyer but I do work related earth moving fields. What are they building and when? If they cut a straight and easily erodible slope than you will be able to sue for the damage to your property and the collapsed fence if and when that occurs. Take lots of picture of your own property and fence. Try to take them from a consistent and easily reproduced location. So comparisons can be made. Store them in multiple safe locations. Request from the city the plot plan for your lot. In my area it would contain the as built elevations for the lot. If they are building a retaining wall… than most of your issues and concerns should be solved on completion. Walls above a certain height in my local require an engineer to check it. Building code often requires that walls above a certain height have a railing for safety. | 0 | 8,188 | 2.673469 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tihpr | i6tu9gn | 1,651,344,527 | 1,651,350,189 | 9 | 131 | There is nothing to be lost by employing the scattershot method. Compile your portfolio of image,video, copies of all applicable laws. Send it to your city/county representative, state rep/senator, US representative and ask each one of them for help. They all have staffers that engage in the minutiae of regulation every day and might have an approach that is novel and effective. | Not a lawyer but I do work related earth moving fields. What are they building and when? If they cut a straight and easily erodible slope than you will be able to sue for the damage to your property and the collapsed fence if and when that occurs. Take lots of picture of your own property and fence. Try to take them from a consistent and easily reproduced location. So comparisons can be made. Store them in multiple safe locations. Request from the city the plot plan for your lot. In my area it would contain the as built elevations for the lot. If they are building a retaining wall… than most of your issues and concerns should be solved on completion. Walls above a certain height in my local require an engineer to check it. Building code often requires that walls above a certain height have a railing for safety. | 0 | 5,662 | 14.555556 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tcz0m | i6tlgiz | 1,651,342,001 | 1,651,345,914 | 49 | 64 | Sorry if I missed it above, but what is the digging for? Is a pool or some other structure going in? I think the action you’re looking at is called duty of support. If excavation causes damage to your property, then your neighbor can be liable for damages. At this point a couple hundred bucks to consult with a real estate attorney would be well spent. If the city isn’t able/willing to stop the excavation and you are looking at irreversible damage then an emergency court order enforced by the sheriff’s dept. might be another way to go. | is this an HOA neighborhood? I know HOA’s are generally hated but sometimes they come in handy. | 0 | 3,913 | 1.306122 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tihpr | i6tlgiz | 1,651,344,527 | 1,651,345,914 | 9 | 64 | There is nothing to be lost by employing the scattershot method. Compile your portfolio of image,video, copies of all applicable laws. Send it to your city/county representative, state rep/senator, US representative and ask each one of them for help. They all have staffers that engage in the minutiae of regulation every day and might have an approach that is novel and effective. | is this an HOA neighborhood? I know HOA’s are generally hated but sometimes they come in handy. | 0 | 1,387 | 7.111111 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tvakz | i6tihpr | 1,651,350,695 | 1,651,344,527 | 19 | 9 | File an official complaint with the city. You may be able to do it on their website or you may have to call and talk to either the building department or zoning department. Official complaints have to be handled officially. Right now if you’ve only had phone conversations, it’s still unofficial, so the city people can kind of ignore you. They can’t ignore official complaints. Secondly, find out who your city council representative is and contact their office. They are there to represent you and should be able to help. Good luck! | There is nothing to be lost by employing the scattershot method. Compile your portfolio of image,video, copies of all applicable laws. Send it to your city/county representative, state rep/senator, US representative and ask each one of them for help. They all have staffers that engage in the minutiae of regulation every day and might have an approach that is novel and effective. | 1 | 6,168 | 2.111111 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6u6vit | i6tyy2u | 1,651,356,345 | 1,651,352,468 | 17 | 13 | Not a lawyer. So far everything here is good advice, I would also make an effort to document the contractor doing the work, get license plate numbers or any signage on their vehicles. Also look to see if there is a rental agency listed on any heavy equipment they have on site - many shady fly by night unlicensed contractors do not have the cash flow or capital to own heavy equipment, getting dates that it's there and the owner and ideally any identifying numbers from the equipment would be of use to your insurance later on. Don't trespass to get any of this information but if it's plainly visible get a picture from your property or a public roadway. | In addition to what others have said, getting a video device that can record clips from your property so that you can easily show how and when work is being done for evidence in the future. Just be sure to turn off Audio recording as that is an area that I am not quiet sure about in Oregon if you are not present. | 1 | 3,877 | 1.307692 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tihpr | i6u6vit | 1,651,344,527 | 1,651,356,345 | 9 | 17 | There is nothing to be lost by employing the scattershot method. Compile your portfolio of image,video, copies of all applicable laws. Send it to your city/county representative, state rep/senator, US representative and ask each one of them for help. They all have staffers that engage in the minutiae of regulation every day and might have an approach that is novel and effective. | Not a lawyer. So far everything here is good advice, I would also make an effort to document the contractor doing the work, get license plate numbers or any signage on their vehicles. Also look to see if there is a rental agency listed on any heavy equipment they have on site - many shady fly by night unlicensed contractors do not have the cash flow or capital to own heavy equipment, getting dates that it's there and the owner and ideally any identifying numbers from the equipment would be of use to your insurance later on. Don't trespass to get any of this information but if it's plainly visible get a picture from your property or a public roadway. | 0 | 11,818 | 1.888889 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6twy34 | i6u6vit | 1,651,351,496 | 1,651,356,345 | 6 | 17 | Not a lawyer but maybe getting a lawyer to make the contractor aware he could be directly liable? Probably won’t want to take the risk if he knows it’s his own wallet on the line too. | Not a lawyer. So far everything here is good advice, I would also make an effort to document the contractor doing the work, get license plate numbers or any signage on their vehicles. Also look to see if there is a rental agency listed on any heavy equipment they have on site - many shady fly by night unlicensed contractors do not have the cash flow or capital to own heavy equipment, getting dates that it's there and the owner and ideally any identifying numbers from the equipment would be of use to your insurance later on. Don't trespass to get any of this information but if it's plainly visible get a picture from your property or a public roadway. | 0 | 4,849 | 2.833333 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6tyy2u | i6tihpr | 1,651,352,468 | 1,651,344,527 | 13 | 9 | In addition to what others have said, getting a video device that can record clips from your property so that you can easily show how and when work is being done for evidence in the future. Just be sure to turn off Audio recording as that is an area that I am not quiet sure about in Oregon if you are not present. | There is nothing to be lost by employing the scattershot method. Compile your portfolio of image,video, copies of all applicable laws. Send it to your city/county representative, state rep/senator, US representative and ask each one of them for help. They all have staffers that engage in the minutiae of regulation every day and might have an approach that is novel and effective. | 1 | 7,941 | 1.444444 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6twy34 | i6tyy2u | 1,651,351,496 | 1,651,352,468 | 6 | 13 | Not a lawyer but maybe getting a lawyer to make the contractor aware he could be directly liable? Probably won’t want to take the risk if he knows it’s his own wallet on the line too. | In addition to what others have said, getting a video device that can record clips from your property so that you can easily show how and when work is being done for evidence in the future. Just be sure to turn off Audio recording as that is an area that I am not quiet sure about in Oregon if you are not present. | 0 | 972 | 2.166667 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6uxocp | i6umscw | 1,651,370,270 | 1,651,364,407 | 7 | 6 | One item not addressed is contacting your home owners insurance. They have a bunch of lawyers that can help you out. They don't want to pay to rebuild your house. And they have plenty of other experience and resources. Plus it would be free to start. | Have a city worker escorted by a police officer come out there while the construction worker is there and require proof of a permitt and when they can't provide one, have them issue a cease and desist otherwise the construction company can also be penalized just like the neighbor. Also photograph everything with dates so that when the fence does get washed away or damaged you can sue for cost of a new fence. | 1 | 5,863 | 1.166667 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6umscw | i6udqqo | 1,651,364,407 | 1,651,359,760 | 6 | 4 | Have a city worker escorted by a police officer come out there while the construction worker is there and require proof of a permitt and when they can't provide one, have them issue a cease and desist otherwise the construction company can also be penalized just like the neighbor. Also photograph everything with dates so that when the fence does get washed away or damaged you can sue for cost of a new fence. | Legally you have a right to lateral and sub adjacent support from neighboring land owners. If they remove so much of the neighboring land that it causes damage, like to your fence you can pursue them for those costs Have you talked to the neighbor, and are they putting in a retaining wall? Do you have an HOA, and deed restrictions that cover any of this? A private lawsuit against the neighbor to enforce these deed restrictions is a possibility. As is reporting it to the HOA Does your city require permits for retaining walls? | 1 | 4,647 | 1.5 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6ueoov | i6umscw | 1,651,360,234 | 1,651,364,407 | 5 | 6 | Not a lawyer but you could put a bird feeder near your fence with a wildlife camera trained on it. It would likely inadvertently catch the work your neighbor does, and the damage that starts to happen as the soil erodes from wind and rain. The cameras are under $100, motion activated, fixed point, and have 4k resolution. | Have a city worker escorted by a police officer come out there while the construction worker is there and require proof of a permitt and when they can't provide one, have them issue a cease and desist otherwise the construction company can also be penalized just like the neighbor. Also photograph everything with dates so that when the fence does get washed away or damaged you can sue for cost of a new fence. | 0 | 4,173 | 1.2 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6umscw | i6uhbq1 | 1,651,364,407 | 1,651,361,579 | 6 | 4 | Have a city worker escorted by a police officer come out there while the construction worker is there and require proof of a permitt and when they can't provide one, have them issue a cease and desist otherwise the construction company can also be penalized just like the neighbor. Also photograph everything with dates so that when the fence does get washed away or damaged you can sue for cost of a new fence. | In my state, you would be able to make a demand upon the city prosecutor to enforce the code, and if the prosecutor refuses, bring a private action for an injunction to stop the work. There may be a similar provision under Oregon law, so talk to a lawyer. | 1 | 2,828 | 1.5 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6uhdww | i6umscw | 1,651,361,609 | 1,651,364,407 | 3 | 6 | How come no one has recommended getting a survey done? | Have a city worker escorted by a police officer come out there while the construction worker is there and require proof of a permitt and when they can't provide one, have them issue a cease and desist otherwise the construction company can also be penalized just like the neighbor. Also photograph everything with dates so that when the fence does get washed away or damaged you can sue for cost of a new fence. | 0 | 2,798 | 2 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6twy34 | i6uxocp | 1,651,351,496 | 1,651,370,270 | 6 | 7 | Not a lawyer but maybe getting a lawyer to make the contractor aware he could be directly liable? Probably won’t want to take the risk if he knows it’s his own wallet on the line too. | One item not addressed is contacting your home owners insurance. They have a bunch of lawyers that can help you out. They don't want to pay to rebuild your house. And they have plenty of other experience and resources. Plus it would be free to start. | 0 | 18,774 | 1.166667 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6uxocp | i6udqqo | 1,651,370,270 | 1,651,359,760 | 7 | 4 | One item not addressed is contacting your home owners insurance. They have a bunch of lawyers that can help you out. They don't want to pay to rebuild your house. And they have plenty of other experience and resources. Plus it would be free to start. | Legally you have a right to lateral and sub adjacent support from neighboring land owners. If they remove so much of the neighboring land that it causes damage, like to your fence you can pursue them for those costs Have you talked to the neighbor, and are they putting in a retaining wall? Do you have an HOA, and deed restrictions that cover any of this? A private lawsuit against the neighbor to enforce these deed restrictions is a possibility. As is reporting it to the HOA Does your city require permits for retaining walls? | 1 | 10,510 | 1.75 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6ueoov | i6uxocp | 1,651,360,234 | 1,651,370,270 | 5 | 7 | Not a lawyer but you could put a bird feeder near your fence with a wildlife camera trained on it. It would likely inadvertently catch the work your neighbor does, and the damage that starts to happen as the soil erodes from wind and rain. The cameras are under $100, motion activated, fixed point, and have 4k resolution. | One item not addressed is contacting your home owners insurance. They have a bunch of lawyers that can help you out. They don't want to pay to rebuild your house. And they have plenty of other experience and resources. Plus it would be free to start. | 0 | 10,036 | 1.4 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6uxocp | i6uhbq1 | 1,651,370,270 | 1,651,361,579 | 7 | 4 | One item not addressed is contacting your home owners insurance. They have a bunch of lawyers that can help you out. They don't want to pay to rebuild your house. And they have plenty of other experience and resources. Plus it would be free to start. | In my state, you would be able to make a demand upon the city prosecutor to enforce the code, and if the prosecutor refuses, bring a private action for an injunction to stop the work. There may be a similar provision under Oregon law, so talk to a lawyer. | 1 | 8,691 | 1.75 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6uhdww | i6uxocp | 1,651,361,609 | 1,651,370,270 | 3 | 7 | How come no one has recommended getting a survey done? | One item not addressed is contacting your home owners insurance. They have a bunch of lawyers that can help you out. They don't want to pay to rebuild your house. And they have plenty of other experience and resources. Plus it would be free to start. | 0 | 8,661 | 2.333333 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6ueoov | i6udqqo | 1,651,360,234 | 1,651,359,760 | 5 | 4 | Not a lawyer but you could put a bird feeder near your fence with a wildlife camera trained on it. It would likely inadvertently catch the work your neighbor does, and the damage that starts to happen as the soil erodes from wind and rain. The cameras are under $100, motion activated, fixed point, and have 4k resolution. | Legally you have a right to lateral and sub adjacent support from neighboring land owners. If they remove so much of the neighboring land that it causes damage, like to your fence you can pursue them for those costs Have you talked to the neighbor, and are they putting in a retaining wall? Do you have an HOA, and deed restrictions that cover any of this? A private lawsuit against the neighbor to enforce these deed restrictions is a possibility. As is reporting it to the HOA Does your city require permits for retaining walls? | 1 | 474 | 1.25 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6vh2eg | i6udqqo | 1,651,382,219 | 1,651,359,760 | 5 | 4 | You should also get a surveyor out to pin the exact property line and show you the line and the pins. | Legally you have a right to lateral and sub adjacent support from neighboring land owners. If they remove so much of the neighboring land that it causes damage, like to your fence you can pursue them for those costs Have you talked to the neighbor, and are they putting in a retaining wall? Do you have an HOA, and deed restrictions that cover any of this? A private lawsuit against the neighbor to enforce these deed restrictions is a possibility. As is reporting it to the HOA Does your city require permits for retaining walls? | 1 | 22,459 | 1.25 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6vh2eg | i6uhbq1 | 1,651,382,219 | 1,651,361,579 | 5 | 4 | You should also get a surveyor out to pin the exact property line and show you the line and the pins. | In my state, you would be able to make a demand upon the city prosecutor to enforce the code, and if the prosecutor refuses, bring a private action for an injunction to stop the work. There may be a similar provision under Oregon law, so talk to a lawyer. | 1 | 20,640 | 1.25 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6uhdww | i6vh2eg | 1,651,361,609 | 1,651,382,219 | 3 | 5 | How come no one has recommended getting a survey done? | You should also get a surveyor out to pin the exact property line and show you the line and the pins. | 0 | 20,610 | 1.666667 |
uferdw | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Neighbor put in a six foot drop less than five inches from fenceline Hello all, I am just looking for any advice. I live in OR, and bought my new construction home just about a year ago. The very nice couple next door sold their home about 5 months ago to a what seemed to be nice person. There was some talk about the property line because the new person wanted to know where it was, and we only had a general idea. After they measured over a dozen times and had a couple people out to measure (I wasn't home because I had prior obligations), they left the line where we had originally marked it when we had first talked about it. This was a couple months ago. We put up a fence that they made clear they didn't want any part of, since we have a dog. We do not have much contact with the neighbor because they are not very friendly, and frankly we are busy. We do not see them often, even though we live very close to them due to small properties in this development. The last conversation we had with them before this was in January, when we were attempting to figure out the property line. Some other background, this is new construction on a hillside that has been here for just about a year. The property line was not cut out well, and some of our front yard is on their lower level, and some of their backyard was at our level. The builder told them that the hill in between was left for proper drainage, since so much water comes off of the hill. The issue started last week when a contractor showed up and started removing dirt. They hauled out over a dozen large dumptrucks full, and cut a six foot drop less than six inches away from the fence, which is two inches in on our property since they didn't want/need the fence. I tried calling the city last week and they did not call me back. When I called this week to check if there was a permit on this project, as is required in my county for large grading projects, they said they would look into it. I got a phone call a couple hours later saying that the neighbor did not have a permit and to call back if they resumed work, as a stop work order had been placed. I took a couple of pictures of the property line, since it had already been dug over, and the neighbor came out and onto my property to ask me what I was going to do about it. I called back a couple of days later when they started work again. The city came back out, and I got a call about an hour later saying that the project is still not permitted, and that the neighbor has no intention of filing a permit, and that the neighbor told the city that since it was private property, that the city is to stay off of their private property. I am very concerned about this as I have a feeling this is an unlicensed contractor doing unpermitted work. They have cut over our property line in some areas, and have basically ensured that some of our property will sink in the next 5 years. The city has told us at this point all we can do is gather evidence to submit to our homeowners insurance when something does happen. Do I have any more rights than this? What is the purpose of a city code if it cannot be upheld by the city? This is the first home we have owned and have never had a neighbor like this. Any advice would be appreciated. As of now, we are taking lots of pictures and have alerted our homeowner's that this could be a future problem. I am also concerned about how this will affect our property value. Any advice is welcome! | i6v06eb | i6vh2eg | 1,651,371,639 | 1,651,382,219 | 3 | 5 | Put up outdoor video cameras and take lots and lots of photos. Call the city and explain the neighbor put a SIX FOOT GRADE CHANGE over an inch into a hill with significant water runoff. Call literally every city department you can find and tell them, and email the description + photos (government records means email is evidence). Now call your insurance and describe how insane this is and what they want to do about it. Your fence is the first to go but a lot of your yard is going to wash down the hill. A lot. Any retaining wall over 4' needs serious engineering work, plans permits etc. | You should also get a surveyor out to pin the exact property line and show you the line and the pins. | 0 | 10,580 | 1.666667 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e52p2p2 | e52p3y0 | 1,535,596,130 | 1,535,596,167 | 205 | 4,183 | Have you brought it up to the person in charge of the RA? You both could be wrong for violating noise laws for your dorms. | Talk to his boss about what he's doing (usually give the title Residential Director), and if his boss doesn't do anything, go complain to HR about how their employee is conducting themselves. The RA is an employee of the school, and if you bring up this guy's conduct to his chain of command you'll quickly get an answer. | 0 | 37 | 20.404878 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e52p2p2 | e52pkdm | 1,535,596,130 | 1,535,596,646 | 205 | 1,748 | Have you brought it up to the person in charge of the RA? You both could be wrong for violating noise laws for your dorms. | Go to student services, the RA's supervisor, and file a Title IX complaint. You're being sexually harassed. Your RA can fuck right off. Edit: > I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus PLEASE tell student services and the Resident Life Coordinator (or your equivalent) that this RA has threatened to kick a student off campus with the tiny amount of authority he has. Pretty please. With sugar on top. They will **end** him. | 0 | 516 | 8.526829 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e530nks | e52p2p2 | 1,535,611,662 | 1,535,596,130 | 536 | 205 | I didn't see if this was a private or public institution, but if you have an LGBT org on campus, they may have staff or connections to help. I worked for one whose coordinator had previous strong ties to housing, coincidentally enough, and came in quite handy | Have you brought it up to the person in charge of the RA? You both could be wrong for violating noise laws for your dorms. | 1 | 15,532 | 2.614634 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e52y0ps | e530nks | 1,535,607,076 | 1,535,611,662 | 59 | 536 | Is this a public or private school? | I didn't see if this was a private or public institution, but if you have an LGBT org on campus, they may have staff or connections to help. I worked for one whose coordinator had previous strong ties to housing, coincidentally enough, and came in quite handy | 0 | 4,586 | 9.084746 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e53furb | e52p2p2 | 1,535,636,609 | 1,535,596,130 | 256 | 205 | I was an RA at my previous university. There are many RAs that have a real large power boner. It’s the first time they have had any real power and try to be the dictators of their Hall/floor/house. The RDs don’t go on rounds or check buildings and only know what their RAs are up to through a few sources: The RA’s weekly reports, any incident reports, and complaints from students. That is it. You need to report this behavior to the RD. However, it is possible there are a few rules/policy’s about sound that you may be in violation of (just a guess). For example, my university policy was that you shouldn’t be able to hear music two doors down at any point in the day if there is a complaint and no further than one door down after seven pm (study hours). | Have you brought it up to the person in charge of the RA? You both could be wrong for violating noise laws for your dorms. | 1 | 40,479 | 1.24878 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e52y0ps | e53furb | 1,535,607,076 | 1,535,636,609 | 59 | 256 | Is this a public or private school? | I was an RA at my previous university. There are many RAs that have a real large power boner. It’s the first time they have had any real power and try to be the dictators of their Hall/floor/house. The RDs don’t go on rounds or check buildings and only know what their RAs are up to through a few sources: The RA’s weekly reports, any incident reports, and complaints from students. That is it. You need to report this behavior to the RD. However, it is possible there are a few rules/policy’s about sound that you may be in violation of (just a guess). For example, my university policy was that you shouldn’t be able to hear music two doors down at any point in the day if there is a complaint and no further than one door down after seven pm (study hours). | 0 | 29,533 | 4.338983 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e54owlc | e52y0ps | 1,535,677,823 | 1,535,607,076 | 80 | 59 | Personal story from my days in college. I had an RA who simply despised me. She would write me up with noise complaints when I had friends over to play video games and would also bring the campus police in case of alcohol. This came to an end during midterms. I was passed out in my bed (alone in my room my roommates were out). It was close to 2am when the RA and the campus police knocked loudly on my door. They insisted that they received multiple noise complaints, strong odor of weed throughout the building and traced it to my room. At first I let them in because I was groggy but once they started searching my things I kicked them out (I remember them claiming they had permission to go through my stuff because I let them in.. I retorted that although I gave them permission to come in that I did not give them permission for a search and for that they need a Warrent and promptly kicked them out). They still wrote me up for a noise complaint The next couple of days I collected signatures from nearly every resident of my building stating that they heard no noise and smelled no weed. I contacted the head of residential life for an emergency meeting and stated that I was being unfairly targeted. at first The odds were against me with him pointing out multiple noise complaints, my word against her and the cop, etc.. i then pulled out the signature list (it had names and room numbers), the fact that I was alone, the number of credits I was taking (I think it was 24) as well as dates of midterms and finally I said something along the line of “I think I’m being unfairly targeted because I’m Jewish” and if this continues I will seek legal council. That was the end of it. I was promptly excused from the meeting shortly thereafter The RA was dismissed, the new RA never interacted with us and all was well in the world. Power-tripping bitch | Is this a public or private school? | 1 | 70,747 | 1.355932 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e53jrb4 | e54owlc | 1,535,640,194 | 1,535,677,823 | 28 | 80 | Go to his boss(Residential Director) about this. I used to be an RA and trust me his boss would want to know if he’s harassing residents or making y’all uncomfortable with his actions. | Personal story from my days in college. I had an RA who simply despised me. She would write me up with noise complaints when I had friends over to play video games and would also bring the campus police in case of alcohol. This came to an end during midterms. I was passed out in my bed (alone in my room my roommates were out). It was close to 2am when the RA and the campus police knocked loudly on my door. They insisted that they received multiple noise complaints, strong odor of weed throughout the building and traced it to my room. At first I let them in because I was groggy but once they started searching my things I kicked them out (I remember them claiming they had permission to go through my stuff because I let them in.. I retorted that although I gave them permission to come in that I did not give them permission for a search and for that they need a Warrent and promptly kicked them out). They still wrote me up for a noise complaint The next couple of days I collected signatures from nearly every resident of my building stating that they heard no noise and smelled no weed. I contacted the head of residential life for an emergency meeting and stated that I was being unfairly targeted. at first The odds were against me with him pointing out multiple noise complaints, my word against her and the cop, etc.. i then pulled out the signature list (it had names and room numbers), the fact that I was alone, the number of credits I was taking (I think it was 24) as well as dates of midterms and finally I said something along the line of “I think I’m being unfairly targeted because I’m Jewish” and if this continues I will seek legal council. That was the end of it. I was promptly excused from the meeting shortly thereafter The RA was dismissed, the new RA never interacted with us and all was well in the world. Power-tripping bitch | 0 | 37,629 | 2.857143 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e54owlc | e5412u4 | 1,535,677,823 | 1,535,654,294 | 80 | 21 | Personal story from my days in college. I had an RA who simply despised me. She would write me up with noise complaints when I had friends over to play video games and would also bring the campus police in case of alcohol. This came to an end during midterms. I was passed out in my bed (alone in my room my roommates were out). It was close to 2am when the RA and the campus police knocked loudly on my door. They insisted that they received multiple noise complaints, strong odor of weed throughout the building and traced it to my room. At first I let them in because I was groggy but once they started searching my things I kicked them out (I remember them claiming they had permission to go through my stuff because I let them in.. I retorted that although I gave them permission to come in that I did not give them permission for a search and for that they need a Warrent and promptly kicked them out). They still wrote me up for a noise complaint The next couple of days I collected signatures from nearly every resident of my building stating that they heard no noise and smelled no weed. I contacted the head of residential life for an emergency meeting and stated that I was being unfairly targeted. at first The odds were against me with him pointing out multiple noise complaints, my word against her and the cop, etc.. i then pulled out the signature list (it had names and room numbers), the fact that I was alone, the number of credits I was taking (I think it was 24) as well as dates of midterms and finally I said something along the line of “I think I’m being unfairly targeted because I’m Jewish” and if this continues I will seek legal council. That was the end of it. I was promptly excused from the meeting shortly thereafter The RA was dismissed, the new RA never interacted with us and all was well in the world. Power-tripping bitch | Not a lawyer, but I'm currently an Area Coordinator at a private university. I supervise 13 RAs and I can tell you without question that I would want to know this was happening if it was one of my RAs who was doing this. At my institution one of the perks of being an RA is that they don't have a roommate, but even still, the RA is creating a hostile living environment for you, which is the exact opposite of what he should be doing. If I were the hall director/area coordinator in charge of this RA and I found out about this behavior, I would be having a very serious conversation with him and his continued employment at the university would be at risk (in my position, I do not have final say, but if it were up to me he'd probably be fired because he sounds like a shit RA). I would probably also be seeking another place on campus for you to move to so that you could be removed from the hostile environment sooner rather than later. Especially because the RA would likely become more hostile upon losing his job/scholarship/free room and board. | 1 | 23,529 | 3.809524 |
9bfpx8 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [SC] RA keeps interrupting sex because I'm gay Hi legal advice. Every time I have my bf over, without fail, the RA (who is one of my roommates) will start banging on the door and telling us to stop. Tonight we were doing homework but he still started banging on the door after 20 minutes. Now, if he were enforcing a no sex policy, I'd be peeved but we could go elsewhere. But occasionally he'll have girls over and he seems to be as loud as he possibly can, as if he's trying to show off. I've tried telling him to knock it off but he tells me to fuck off or he'll get me kicked off campus. Is this legal? I feel like this is discrimination. | e54owlc | e543091 | 1,535,677,823 | 1,535,655,866 | 80 | 21 | Personal story from my days in college. I had an RA who simply despised me. She would write me up with noise complaints when I had friends over to play video games and would also bring the campus police in case of alcohol. This came to an end during midterms. I was passed out in my bed (alone in my room my roommates were out). It was close to 2am when the RA and the campus police knocked loudly on my door. They insisted that they received multiple noise complaints, strong odor of weed throughout the building and traced it to my room. At first I let them in because I was groggy but once they started searching my things I kicked them out (I remember them claiming they had permission to go through my stuff because I let them in.. I retorted that although I gave them permission to come in that I did not give them permission for a search and for that they need a Warrent and promptly kicked them out). They still wrote me up for a noise complaint The next couple of days I collected signatures from nearly every resident of my building stating that they heard no noise and smelled no weed. I contacted the head of residential life for an emergency meeting and stated that I was being unfairly targeted. at first The odds were against me with him pointing out multiple noise complaints, my word against her and the cop, etc.. i then pulled out the signature list (it had names and room numbers), the fact that I was alone, the number of credits I was taking (I think it was 24) as well as dates of midterms and finally I said something along the line of “I think I’m being unfairly targeted because I’m Jewish” and if this continues I will seek legal council. That was the end of it. I was promptly excused from the meeting shortly thereafter The RA was dismissed, the new RA never interacted with us and all was well in the world. Power-tripping bitch | Journal. Journal everything, immediately as it happens. Have your boyfriend sign it too. Get this harassment on the record. | 1 | 21,957 | 3.809524 |
p4cqmi | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | I'm trying to adopt my niece but a social worker has 'concerns' because I'm gay. Location: Ontario, Canada and The United States Basically what the title states. I'm Canadian, my niece is American. Her mother (my sister) is incarcerated. I am my niece's only family besides her parents who are both incarcerated. Here in Ontario the authorities have no issues and they believe I am fit. However the social worker in The United States has concerns about the adoption because I am gay. I'm trying to see if I need a lawyer from The United States to help. I've never been to The United States and I don't know how all the legal stuff works there, does anyone know if my sexual orientation will be a barrier to the adoption? Here in Canada it doesn't matter so I wasn't expecting it to be a problem. If anyone knows anything to help calm me down I'd appreciate it. | h9040cl | h8xpyej | 1,629,008,417 | 1,628,964,092 | 21 | 14 | You need an Oklahoma family law attorney asap. Definitely use aclu or lgbt advocacy groups to try to find someone who will actually work for you. You might be able to get some traction by claiming rights as the only suitable blood relative, but you'll need to do that through an attorney. Even if there's nothing that specifically prohibits you from adopting, from a practical standpoint discrimination is frequently legally tolerated. (Especially if it's "for the children.") Since you're already seeing resistance, expect that you'll have to fight for this. The sooner you show that you're willing and able to fight them in a way that matters to them, the better. | Aside from anything else, are both parents willing to let you adopt her? | 1 | 44,325 | 1.5 |
p4cqmi | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | I'm trying to adopt my niece but a social worker has 'concerns' because I'm gay. Location: Ontario, Canada and The United States Basically what the title states. I'm Canadian, my niece is American. Her mother (my sister) is incarcerated. I am my niece's only family besides her parents who are both incarcerated. Here in Ontario the authorities have no issues and they believe I am fit. However the social worker in The United States has concerns about the adoption because I am gay. I'm trying to see if I need a lawyer from The United States to help. I've never been to The United States and I don't know how all the legal stuff works there, does anyone know if my sexual orientation will be a barrier to the adoption? Here in Canada it doesn't matter so I wasn't expecting it to be a problem. If anyone knows anything to help calm me down I'd appreciate it. | h8xthto | h9040cl | 1,628,965,637 | 1,629,008,417 | 7 | 21 | Not a lawyer but you need to get one that specializes in family law in Oklahoma. From what I can see there are no laws in Oklahoma that prohibit social workers from discrimination against LGBTQ. You can always contact the ACLU in Oklahoma for a pointer in the right direction, but I don't think they would be able to help you directly. | You need an Oklahoma family law attorney asap. Definitely use aclu or lgbt advocacy groups to try to find someone who will actually work for you. You might be able to get some traction by claiming rights as the only suitable blood relative, but you'll need to do that through an attorney. Even if there's nothing that specifically prohibits you from adopting, from a practical standpoint discrimination is frequently legally tolerated. (Especially if it's "for the children.") Since you're already seeing resistance, expect that you'll have to fight for this. The sooner you show that you're willing and able to fight them in a way that matters to them, the better. | 0 | 42,780 | 3 |
4dr5kb | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Update: FL] Just informed by my manager that they will never approve my vacations again because I'm too important. Is this legal? Hello, everyone. First thread [here. Several people requested updates, so here it is. tl;dr: Retail store employer promoted me to position that gives PTO, told me to not bother ever applying to use it because I was too good at my job. Long story short, many people suggested that they were joking, or that I was intentionally trying to start shit. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I tried to apply for the same weekend off that I had the year before, being July 7-12. Only six days, instead of seven. Not ideal, but better than nothing. Management countered by claiming that these days were now "blackout" days, because of their proximity to 4th of July. Somehow, they claimed, the department I worked in was expected to be "exceptionally busy" three days *after* 4th of July. This was not the case last year, obviously, as I was able to take the time off just fine. Only now was this made a rule, and only after I applied for the time off. I attempted to appeal to management by mentioning that I had taken the same days off last year, but no dice. They refused to even consider it. I informed them that this was the only week I was interested in taking off at all, and that when I interviewed with this company I had *specifically* told them that this was non-negotiable -- I took this week off every year, paid or unpaid, and during the interview they had agreed to those terms. Not a single fuck was given, they shrugged and told me "sorry, but it's a blackout date" and that "if I could take it off, they'd have to let everyone take it off." I told them I didn't see a problem with that -- they laughed in my face. "Well, it's just something we can't do." I've since quit the position -- not only due to this, but several other issues as well, mostly hating my job so much I've been diagnosed with clinical anxiety and depression and now take medication to remedy those. I spoke with my mother and she is graciously allowing me to live with her for a year and a half while I return to school full time and finish my degree in Computer Science, and hopefully am able to launch myself into a much better job than menial labor in a retail store. It sucks having to move back in with mom, but I'll *gladly* suffer through a year and a half of that if it means I don't have to return to retail. Thank you all to the advice you gave me, even though it was essentially "you're fucked, sorry". | d1tjt5r | d1tk18j | 1,460,039,271 | 1,460,039,581 | 111 | 1,328 | Good luck. Living at home while finishing your degree isn't bad. Even if you get a job, save the money so you can rent when you get a job. | Their loss. If they really couldn't afford to have you gone for a week, they now have to figure out what to do now that you're gone full time. Glad you got out of there! | 0 | 310 | 11.963964 |
4dr5kb | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Update: FL] Just informed by my manager that they will never approve my vacations again because I'm too important. Is this legal? Hello, everyone. First thread [here. Several people requested updates, so here it is. tl;dr: Retail store employer promoted me to position that gives PTO, told me to not bother ever applying to use it because I was too good at my job. Long story short, many people suggested that they were joking, or that I was intentionally trying to start shit. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I tried to apply for the same weekend off that I had the year before, being July 7-12. Only six days, instead of seven. Not ideal, but better than nothing. Management countered by claiming that these days were now "blackout" days, because of their proximity to 4th of July. Somehow, they claimed, the department I worked in was expected to be "exceptionally busy" three days *after* 4th of July. This was not the case last year, obviously, as I was able to take the time off just fine. Only now was this made a rule, and only after I applied for the time off. I attempted to appeal to management by mentioning that I had taken the same days off last year, but no dice. They refused to even consider it. I informed them that this was the only week I was interested in taking off at all, and that when I interviewed with this company I had *specifically* told them that this was non-negotiable -- I took this week off every year, paid or unpaid, and during the interview they had agreed to those terms. Not a single fuck was given, they shrugged and told me "sorry, but it's a blackout date" and that "if I could take it off, they'd have to let everyone take it off." I told them I didn't see a problem with that -- they laughed in my face. "Well, it's just something we can't do." I've since quit the position -- not only due to this, but several other issues as well, mostly hating my job so much I've been diagnosed with clinical anxiety and depression and now take medication to remedy those. I spoke with my mother and she is graciously allowing me to live with her for a year and a half while I return to school full time and finish my degree in Computer Science, and hopefully am able to launch myself into a much better job than menial labor in a retail store. It sucks having to move back in with mom, but I'll *gladly* suffer through a year and a half of that if it means I don't have to return to retail. Thank you all to the advice you gave me, even though it was essentially "you're fucked, sorry". | d1tk18j | d1tjxvc | 1,460,039,581 | 1,460,039,453 | 1,328 | 38 | Their loss. If they really couldn't afford to have you gone for a week, they now have to figure out what to do now that you're gone full time. Glad you got out of there! | > I've since quit the position If you were so important, they should have treated you better... | 1 | 128 | 34.947368 |
4dr5kb | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Update: FL] Just informed by my manager that they will never approve my vacations again because I'm too important. Is this legal? Hello, everyone. First thread [here. Several people requested updates, so here it is. tl;dr: Retail store employer promoted me to position that gives PTO, told me to not bother ever applying to use it because I was too good at my job. Long story short, many people suggested that they were joking, or that I was intentionally trying to start shit. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I tried to apply for the same weekend off that I had the year before, being July 7-12. Only six days, instead of seven. Not ideal, but better than nothing. Management countered by claiming that these days were now "blackout" days, because of their proximity to 4th of July. Somehow, they claimed, the department I worked in was expected to be "exceptionally busy" three days *after* 4th of July. This was not the case last year, obviously, as I was able to take the time off just fine. Only now was this made a rule, and only after I applied for the time off. I attempted to appeal to management by mentioning that I had taken the same days off last year, but no dice. They refused to even consider it. I informed them that this was the only week I was interested in taking off at all, and that when I interviewed with this company I had *specifically* told them that this was non-negotiable -- I took this week off every year, paid or unpaid, and during the interview they had agreed to those terms. Not a single fuck was given, they shrugged and told me "sorry, but it's a blackout date" and that "if I could take it off, they'd have to let everyone take it off." I told them I didn't see a problem with that -- they laughed in my face. "Well, it's just something we can't do." I've since quit the position -- not only due to this, but several other issues as well, mostly hating my job so much I've been diagnosed with clinical anxiety and depression and now take medication to remedy those. I spoke with my mother and she is graciously allowing me to live with her for a year and a half while I return to school full time and finish my degree in Computer Science, and hopefully am able to launch myself into a much better job than menial labor in a retail store. It sucks having to move back in with mom, but I'll *gladly* suffer through a year and a half of that if it means I don't have to return to retail. Thank you all to the advice you gave me, even though it was essentially "you're fucked, sorry". | d1tju66 | d1tk18j | 1,460,039,310 | 1,460,039,581 | 34 | 1,328 | Thanks for the update OP! Sorry the position/employer didn't work out. And- that's *awesome* you're planning on going back to school. Use the job experience as motivation to finish your degree. | Their loss. If they really couldn't afford to have you gone for a week, they now have to figure out what to do now that you're gone full time. Glad you got out of there! | 0 | 271 | 39.058824 |
4dr5kb | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Update: FL] Just informed by my manager that they will never approve my vacations again because I'm too important. Is this legal? Hello, everyone. First thread [here. Several people requested updates, so here it is. tl;dr: Retail store employer promoted me to position that gives PTO, told me to not bother ever applying to use it because I was too good at my job. Long story short, many people suggested that they were joking, or that I was intentionally trying to start shit. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I tried to apply for the same weekend off that I had the year before, being July 7-12. Only six days, instead of seven. Not ideal, but better than nothing. Management countered by claiming that these days were now "blackout" days, because of their proximity to 4th of July. Somehow, they claimed, the department I worked in was expected to be "exceptionally busy" three days *after* 4th of July. This was not the case last year, obviously, as I was able to take the time off just fine. Only now was this made a rule, and only after I applied for the time off. I attempted to appeal to management by mentioning that I had taken the same days off last year, but no dice. They refused to even consider it. I informed them that this was the only week I was interested in taking off at all, and that when I interviewed with this company I had *specifically* told them that this was non-negotiable -- I took this week off every year, paid or unpaid, and during the interview they had agreed to those terms. Not a single fuck was given, they shrugged and told me "sorry, but it's a blackout date" and that "if I could take it off, they'd have to let everyone take it off." I told them I didn't see a problem with that -- they laughed in my face. "Well, it's just something we can't do." I've since quit the position -- not only due to this, but several other issues as well, mostly hating my job so much I've been diagnosed with clinical anxiety and depression and now take medication to remedy those. I spoke with my mother and she is graciously allowing me to live with her for a year and a half while I return to school full time and finish my degree in Computer Science, and hopefully am able to launch myself into a much better job than menial labor in a retail store. It sucks having to move back in with mom, but I'll *gladly* suffer through a year and a half of that if it means I don't have to return to retail. Thank you all to the advice you gave me, even though it was essentially "you're fucked, sorry". | d1tju66 | d1tjxvc | 1,460,039,310 | 1,460,039,453 | 34 | 38 | Thanks for the update OP! Sorry the position/employer didn't work out. And- that's *awesome* you're planning on going back to school. Use the job experience as motivation to finish your degree. | > I've since quit the position If you were so important, they should have treated you better... | 0 | 143 | 1.117647 |
4dr5kb | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Update: FL] Just informed by my manager that they will never approve my vacations again because I'm too important. Is this legal? Hello, everyone. First thread [here. Several people requested updates, so here it is. tl;dr: Retail store employer promoted me to position that gives PTO, told me to not bother ever applying to use it because I was too good at my job. Long story short, many people suggested that they were joking, or that I was intentionally trying to start shit. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I tried to apply for the same weekend off that I had the year before, being July 7-12. Only six days, instead of seven. Not ideal, but better than nothing. Management countered by claiming that these days were now "blackout" days, because of their proximity to 4th of July. Somehow, they claimed, the department I worked in was expected to be "exceptionally busy" three days *after* 4th of July. This was not the case last year, obviously, as I was able to take the time off just fine. Only now was this made a rule, and only after I applied for the time off. I attempted to appeal to management by mentioning that I had taken the same days off last year, but no dice. They refused to even consider it. I informed them that this was the only week I was interested in taking off at all, and that when I interviewed with this company I had *specifically* told them that this was non-negotiable -- I took this week off every year, paid or unpaid, and during the interview they had agreed to those terms. Not a single fuck was given, they shrugged and told me "sorry, but it's a blackout date" and that "if I could take it off, they'd have to let everyone take it off." I told them I didn't see a problem with that -- they laughed in my face. "Well, it's just something we can't do." I've since quit the position -- not only due to this, but several other issues as well, mostly hating my job so much I've been diagnosed with clinical anxiety and depression and now take medication to remedy those. I spoke with my mother and she is graciously allowing me to live with her for a year and a half while I return to school full time and finish my degree in Computer Science, and hopefully am able to launch myself into a much better job than menial labor in a retail store. It sucks having to move back in with mom, but I'll *gladly* suffer through a year and a half of that if it means I don't have to return to retail. Thank you all to the advice you gave me, even though it was essentially "you're fucked, sorry". | d1tktnc | d1tlk2n | 1,460,040,655 | 1,460,041,610 | 18 | 19 | Oy, I had something similar to this when I worked for the USPS. I put for some days off week ahead of time. "Sorry, can't give you those days". No reasoning, nothing. So the next week I applied for the week following my initial request. "Nope, can't give you those days". I asked what days I could take off "We don't have a set days you can/can't take off" So again, the following week, "nope, can't give you those days". "Why?" "I don't know, they just said no". Then I find out other people who applied AFTER me, got those days off. So I simply applied again and she looked at it "Sorry, we can't give you those days" and I just straight up told her "Look, this isn't me requesting leave, this is me notifying you that I won't be here. Approve it, don't, I don't give a shit, but just know I won't be here on those days". I think they were trying to get me to quit. I wasn't as important to not be fired because I was just good at my job. | > informed ... that they will never approve my vacations again because I'm too important ... > I've since quit the position And since they didn't regard you as important enough to actually keep in the job, the reason they gave sounds like it wasn't the truth (if you were *so* important to keep around they'd have compromised in order to keep you there). You were (doubtless) very good, but it seems like what they really wanted was to exploit you; if your presence was actually important to them, they'd have tried to make it worthwhile staying (for starters, giving you the time off that they'd already agreed to). Looks to me like you did the right thing. | 0 | 955 | 1.055556 |
hqw3ov | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | Husband has persistent breathing difficulties while at work (after they moved two machines off ventilation and added another). His work says it must be "allergies" and refuses to do anything about it, even after he went to ER for treatment. What can we do? If this is the wrong sub or formatted incorrectly, please let me know and I'll do my best to change / post somewhere else. Company husband (H) works for recently purchased a new machine and moved of it's two old machines to a different location on the shop floor. They were previously hooked up to air handlers but now none of the three have any ventilation. Less than a week after all machines are up and running and H starts to feel lightheaded and like he can't quite catch his breath. The next day he feels much better with some rest at home but then half way through his shift it gets so bad he starts blacking out and when he can see things are blurry. Much to the dismay of his coworkers, he drives the short distance to the ER where they run a battery of tests and can't find anything wrong with him other than decreased O2 (down to 85% at one point) and difficulty breathing. They diagnosed him as having asthma attacks and gave him a couple breathing treatments, inhalers, and Rx steroids. They also said that since he has never had asthma before and the only thing that has changed in his environment has been the air quality at his work (which lines up with his worst attacks) that that must be the cause. He told his boss what had happened and boss' response was "no it must be allergies with all the ragweed, I get that too." Since then his work had refused to do anything about the air quality. They supposedly have someone who was assigned to have the machines hooked up to new air handlers but he's on vacation and they don't want the down time for the machines. Every night since then, H has difficulty breathing and by the end of the night (10hrs) the inhalers barely help and it takes the whole next day of resting at home before he feels any better. He's getting worse, and I'm afraid for his health. He can't afford time off work and even if he took it, he'd go right back to being sick again. Is there anything we can do legally to convince his work to improve the air quality or take responsibility for his health? We're afraid to report them for fear of negative repercussions (he's the only one who has mentioned the air quality) but if we did, who could we report to? (This is in Indiana and there are just above 15 employees.) H is seeing a GP tomorrow and I was thinking about asking for a letter about his working conditions. Would that help at all? TLDR; Healthy husband suddenly developed severe asthma while at work after the air quality has noticeably decreased. His work refuses to take responsibility or do anything about it. | fy18he8 | fy0m0i4 | 1,594,733,090 | 1,594,713,308 | 33 | 21 | If your husband believes his illness is due to the work environment (as described in your post), he should file for Worker's Compensation via the Indiana Worker's Compensation Board. Secondly, you can report the work conditions to OSHA. Indiana has a state run program, so you can report via the Indiana Department of Labor. | Practical advice: Bare minimum, husband should not subject himself to any situation which will make his medical condition worse. Document document document. Create a paper trail. He should be emailing his superiors about these issues and keeping copies off site in both digital and printed form. If they speak to him in person, he should be sending a follow-up email detailing the conversation and what was said and by whom. Legal advice: If they are not providing a safe work environment AND he sustained injuries then your husband will need to sue them if they fail to make him whole. check with unemployment in your state to see if he can quit and retain the ability to collect unemployment because it is absolutely unsafe to work. This is all VERY fact specific and outside the scope of this subreddit. I highly recommend he has a consult with an employment lawyer. Also updating with state would be helpful. I am not a lawyer and I'm also not your lawyer. and this is not legal advice. Wish the best of luck to you both. I'm also asthmatic so I know how much it sucks. It does get better though. | 1 | 19,782 | 1.571429 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ismyfhk | isoab6f | 1,665,981,172 | 1,666,014,904 | 631 | 1,509 | Cut it. The lock was placed their either by a thief, a mischief maker or (0.001% chance) by a well meaning idiot. If someone says they were trying to help, you should laugh in their face and explain that they’d have needed to give you the key to be helpful. | 1. Cut the lock. 2. Stop leaving your damn bike unlocked and stored where it is easily accessible to the public. 3. Make sure you get your bike registered. | 0 | 33,732 | 2.391442 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ismwjg0 | isoab6f | 1,665,980,015 | 1,666,014,904 | 566 | 1,509 | Cut the lock -- and stop acting like you live in Mayberry. Take efforts to secure your bike, or it's going to be stolen. Also, on the outside chance this is someone who intends to claim the bike, make sure the bike is registered to you -- either through the city or county, or through a registration service, or by etching something like your driver's license number onto the underside. | 1. Cut the lock. 2. Stop leaving your damn bike unlocked and stored where it is easily accessible to the public. 3. Make sure you get your bike registered. | 0 | 34,889 | 2.666078 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isoab6f | ismur39 | 1,666,014,904 | 1,665,978,965 | 1,509 | 508 | 1. Cut the lock. 2. Stop leaving your damn bike unlocked and stored where it is easily accessible to the public. 3. Make sure you get your bike registered. | You should try and cut it before someone else does It’s actually a common thing for thieves to put their lock on a bike they want to steal then they come back unlock their lock and cut yours off | 1 | 35,939 | 2.970472 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isoab6f | iso90qp | 1,666,014,904 | 1,666,014,312 | 1,509 | 88 | 1. Cut the lock. 2. Stop leaving your damn bike unlocked and stored where it is easily accessible to the public. 3. Make sure you get your bike registered. | Taking to this absurd extreme where you cut the chain and they sue you, how are they going to prove it was you? What would they say the reason for locking up your bike was? I can’t believe you left your bike outside with no hesitation but this gives you such pause. Cut the lock and quit keeping your bike outside. | 1 | 592 | 17.147727 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isoab6f | isnzazc | 1,666,014,904 | 1,666,009,383 | 1,509 | 74 | 1. Cut the lock. 2. Stop leaving your damn bike unlocked and stored where it is easily accessible to the public. 3. Make sure you get your bike registered. | Update us when your bike is stolen overnight. Cut that lock off if you can but I know with the Kryptonite lock you’re gonna need some heavy duty bolt cutters. This is a very common ploy by bike thieves. | 1 | 5,521 | 20.391892 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isnoc83 | isoab6f | 1,666,002,063 | 1,666,014,904 | 19 | 1,509 | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | 1. Cut the lock. 2. Stop leaving your damn bike unlocked and stored where it is easily accessible to the public. 3. Make sure you get your bike registered. | 0 | 12,841 | 79.421053 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ismwjg0 | ismyfhk | 1,665,980,015 | 1,665,981,172 | 566 | 631 | Cut the lock -- and stop acting like you live in Mayberry. Take efforts to secure your bike, or it's going to be stolen. Also, on the outside chance this is someone who intends to claim the bike, make sure the bike is registered to you -- either through the city or county, or through a registration service, or by etching something like your driver's license number onto the underside. | Cut it. The lock was placed their either by a thief, a mischief maker or (0.001% chance) by a well meaning idiot. If someone says they were trying to help, you should laugh in their face and explain that they’d have needed to give you the key to be helpful. | 0 | 1,157 | 1.114841 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ismyfhk | ismur39 | 1,665,981,172 | 1,665,978,965 | 631 | 508 | Cut it. The lock was placed their either by a thief, a mischief maker or (0.001% chance) by a well meaning idiot. If someone says they were trying to help, you should laugh in their face and explain that they’d have needed to give you the key to be helpful. | You should try and cut it before someone else does It’s actually a common thing for thieves to put their lock on a bike they want to steal then they come back unlock their lock and cut yours off | 1 | 2,207 | 1.242126 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ismwjg0 | ismur39 | 1,665,980,015 | 1,665,978,965 | 566 | 508 | Cut the lock -- and stop acting like you live in Mayberry. Take efforts to secure your bike, or it's going to be stolen. Also, on the outside chance this is someone who intends to claim the bike, make sure the bike is registered to you -- either through the city or county, or through a registration service, or by etching something like your driver's license number onto the underside. | You should try and cut it before someone else does It’s actually a common thing for thieves to put their lock on a bike they want to steal then they come back unlock their lock and cut yours off | 1 | 1,050 | 1.114173 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | iso90qp | isnzazc | 1,666,014,312 | 1,666,009,383 | 88 | 74 | Taking to this absurd extreme where you cut the chain and they sue you, how are they going to prove it was you? What would they say the reason for locking up your bike was? I can’t believe you left your bike outside with no hesitation but this gives you such pause. Cut the lock and quit keeping your bike outside. | Update us when your bike is stolen overnight. Cut that lock off if you can but I know with the Kryptonite lock you’re gonna need some heavy duty bolt cutters. This is a very common ploy by bike thieves. | 1 | 4,929 | 1.189189 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isnoc83 | iso90qp | 1,666,002,063 | 1,666,014,312 | 19 | 88 | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | Taking to this absurd extreme where you cut the chain and they sue you, how are they going to prove it was you? What would they say the reason for locking up your bike was? I can’t believe you left your bike outside with no hesitation but this gives you such pause. Cut the lock and quit keeping your bike outside. | 0 | 12,249 | 4.631579 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isnoc83 | isnzazc | 1,666,002,063 | 1,666,009,383 | 19 | 74 | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | Update us when your bike is stolen overnight. Cut that lock off if you can but I know with the Kryptonite lock you’re gonna need some heavy duty bolt cutters. This is a very common ploy by bike thieves. | 0 | 7,320 | 3.894737 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispvw54 | isnoc83 | 1,666,038,727 | 1,666,002,063 | 35 | 19 | As someone who’s lived in sf, I can’t imagine leaving something important to me outside and unlocked, even in a ‘safe’ neighborhood lol. Cut the lock and if it was a neighbor or landlord explain you needed the bike and offer to reimburse the cost of the lock or get them a new lock. | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | 1 | 36,664 | 1.842105 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isonufu | ispvw54 | 1,666,021,013 | 1,666,038,727 | 16 | 35 | Some bolt cutters to cut the lock off. Store your bicycle inside if possible, that way assholes can’t do this again to you | As someone who’s lived in sf, I can’t imagine leaving something important to me outside and unlocked, even in a ‘safe’ neighborhood lol. Cut the lock and if it was a neighbor or landlord explain you needed the bike and offer to reimburse the cost of the lock or get them a new lock. | 0 | 17,714 | 2.1875 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispvw54 | isp03tx | 1,666,038,727 | 1,666,026,202 | 35 | 12 | As someone who’s lived in sf, I can’t imagine leaving something important to me outside and unlocked, even in a ‘safe’ neighborhood lol. Cut the lock and if it was a neighbor or landlord explain you needed the bike and offer to reimburse the cost of the lock or get them a new lock. | If it's a chain lock use bolt cutters. If it's a metal U-lock you can break it open with a scissor jack. There is no legal penalty you can face for breaking a lock to free a bike that you own. | 1 | 12,525 | 2.916667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispvw54 | isp1n22 | 1,666,038,727 | 1,666,026,837 | 35 | 12 | As someone who’s lived in sf, I can’t imagine leaving something important to me outside and unlocked, even in a ‘safe’ neighborhood lol. Cut the lock and if it was a neighbor or landlord explain you needed the bike and offer to reimburse the cost of the lock or get them a new lock. | Get a pair of bolt cutters and free your bike. It's your property. | 1 | 11,890 | 2.916667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispvw54 | ispai1a | 1,666,038,727 | 1,666,030,379 | 35 | 7 | As someone who’s lived in sf, I can’t imagine leaving something important to me outside and unlocked, even in a ‘safe’ neighborhood lol. Cut the lock and if it was a neighbor or landlord explain you needed the bike and offer to reimburse the cost of the lock or get them a new lock. | Angle grinder will do the jorb | 1 | 8,348 | 5 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispvw54 | isp8114 | 1,666,038,727 | 1,666,029,398 | 35 | 3 | As someone who’s lived in sf, I can’t imagine leaving something important to me outside and unlocked, even in a ‘safe’ neighborhood lol. Cut the lock and if it was a neighbor or landlord explain you needed the bike and offer to reimburse the cost of the lock or get them a new lock. | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | 1 | 9,329 | 11.666667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isq3qvp | isnoc83 | 1,666,041,856 | 1,666,002,063 | 34 | 19 | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | 1 | 39,793 | 1.789474 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isonufu | isq3qvp | 1,666,021,013 | 1,666,041,856 | 16 | 34 | Some bolt cutters to cut the lock off. Store your bicycle inside if possible, that way assholes can’t do this again to you | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | 0 | 20,843 | 2.125 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp03tx | isq3qvp | 1,666,026,202 | 1,666,041,856 | 12 | 34 | If it's a chain lock use bolt cutters. If it's a metal U-lock you can break it open with a scissor jack. There is no legal penalty you can face for breaking a lock to free a bike that you own. | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | 0 | 15,654 | 2.833333 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp1n22 | isq3qvp | 1,666,026,837 | 1,666,041,856 | 12 | 34 | Get a pair of bolt cutters and free your bike. It's your property. | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | 0 | 15,019 | 2.833333 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isq3qvp | isq1wgk | 1,666,041,856 | 1,666,041,111 | 34 | 12 | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | Cut it and start keeping your bike inside. Worse case scenario if it was a concerned neighbor you could just reimburse he/she the cost of the lock and tell them thank you for their concern but you will be keeping the bike inside from now on. | 1 | 745 | 2.833333 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispai1a | isq3qvp | 1,666,030,379 | 1,666,041,856 | 7 | 34 | Angle grinder will do the jorb | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | 0 | 11,477 | 4.857143 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isq3qvp | ispzfcj | 1,666,041,856 | 1,666,040,118 | 34 | 5 | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | If it’s your bike and you have proof cut the lock, it’s simple. | 1 | 1,738 | 6.8 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isq3qvp | isp8114 | 1,666,041,856 | 1,666,029,398 | 34 | 3 | Cut it quickly, someone is attempting to steal it. | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | 1 | 12,458 | 11.333333 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isquial | isrh38o | 1,666,054,184 | 1,666,065,165 | 24 | 26 | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 10,981 | 1.083333 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isnoc83 | isquial | 1,666,002,063 | 1,666,054,184 | 19 | 24 | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | 0 | 52,121 | 1.263158 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isonufu | isquial | 1,666,021,013 | 1,666,054,184 | 16 | 24 | Some bolt cutters to cut the lock off. Store your bicycle inside if possible, that way assholes can’t do this again to you | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | 0 | 33,171 | 1.5 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp03tx | isquial | 1,666,026,202 | 1,666,054,184 | 12 | 24 | If it's a chain lock use bolt cutters. If it's a metal U-lock you can break it open with a scissor jack. There is no legal penalty you can face for breaking a lock to free a bike that you own. | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | 0 | 27,982 | 2 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isquial | isp1n22 | 1,666,054,184 | 1,666,026,837 | 24 | 12 | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | Get a pair of bolt cutters and free your bike. It's your property. | 1 | 27,347 | 2 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isquial | isq1wgk | 1,666,054,184 | 1,666,041,111 | 24 | 12 | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | Cut it and start keeping your bike inside. Worse case scenario if it was a concerned neighbor you could just reimburse he/she the cost of the lock and tell them thank you for their concern but you will be keeping the bike inside from now on. | 1 | 13,073 | 2 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isquial | ispai1a | 1,666,054,184 | 1,666,030,379 | 24 | 7 | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | Angle grinder will do the jorb | 1 | 23,805 | 3.428571 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isquial | ispzfcj | 1,666,054,184 | 1,666,040,118 | 24 | 5 | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | If it’s your bike and you have proof cut the lock, it’s simple. | 1 | 14,066 | 4.8 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp8114 | isquial | 1,666,029,398 | 1,666,054,184 | 3 | 24 | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | Yes you can cut the lock, it is YOUR property. After you get the lock off, take it to the police get it registered & buy your own chain (I paid 150 bucks the high security one we use on our factory customized Stromer but you can find good ones for less than that) Also, remove the seat post and stuff a piece of rolled up paper w/ your name, address phone number into the frame then reattach the seat post. | 0 | 24,786 | 8 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isnoc83 | isrh38o | 1,666,002,063 | 1,666,065,165 | 19 | 26 | Absolute worst case you need to pay the cost of the lock. | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 63,102 | 1.368421 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isonufu | isrh38o | 1,666,021,013 | 1,666,065,165 | 16 | 26 | Some bolt cutters to cut the lock off. Store your bicycle inside if possible, that way assholes can’t do this again to you | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 44,152 | 1.625 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp03tx | isrh38o | 1,666,026,202 | 1,666,065,165 | 12 | 26 | If it's a chain lock use bolt cutters. If it's a metal U-lock you can break it open with a scissor jack. There is no legal penalty you can face for breaking a lock to free a bike that you own. | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 38,963 | 2.166667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isrh38o | isp1n22 | 1,666,065,165 | 1,666,026,837 | 26 | 12 | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | Get a pair of bolt cutters and free your bike. It's your property. | 1 | 38,328 | 2.166667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isq1wgk | isrh38o | 1,666,041,111 | 1,666,065,165 | 12 | 26 | Cut it and start keeping your bike inside. Worse case scenario if it was a concerned neighbor you could just reimburse he/she the cost of the lock and tell them thank you for their concern but you will be keeping the bike inside from now on. | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 24,054 | 2.166667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispai1a | isrh38o | 1,666,030,379 | 1,666,065,165 | 7 | 26 | Angle grinder will do the jorb | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 34,786 | 3.714286 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isrh38o | ispzfcj | 1,666,065,165 | 1,666,040,118 | 26 | 5 | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | If it’s your bike and you have proof cut the lock, it’s simple. | 1 | 25,047 | 5.2 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp8114 | isrh38o | 1,666,029,398 | 1,666,065,165 | 3 | 26 | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | They are locking it to steal at a later time. They are “saving” it for later and will come back with the proper tools to cut your lock off. Cut their lock, and keep your bike in your house. It sucks if you dont have the space to store it inside, but probably suck more to lose your bike. | 0 | 35,767 | 8.666667 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isq1wgk | ispai1a | 1,666,041,111 | 1,666,030,379 | 12 | 7 | Cut it and start keeping your bike inside. Worse case scenario if it was a concerned neighbor you could just reimburse he/she the cost of the lock and tell them thank you for their concern but you will be keeping the bike inside from now on. | Angle grinder will do the jorb | 1 | 10,732 | 1.714286 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispzfcj | isq1wgk | 1,666,040,118 | 1,666,041,111 | 5 | 12 | If it’s your bike and you have proof cut the lock, it’s simple. | Cut it and start keeping your bike inside. Worse case scenario if it was a concerned neighbor you could just reimburse he/she the cost of the lock and tell them thank you for their concern but you will be keeping the bike inside from now on. | 0 | 993 | 2.4 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp8114 | isq1wgk | 1,666,029,398 | 1,666,041,111 | 3 | 12 | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | Cut it and start keeping your bike inside. Worse case scenario if it was a concerned neighbor you could just reimburse he/she the cost of the lock and tell them thank you for their concern but you will be keeping the bike inside from now on. | 0 | 11,713 | 4 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | ispai1a | isp8114 | 1,666,030,379 | 1,666,029,398 | 7 | 3 | Angle grinder will do the jorb | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | 1 | 981 | 2.333333 |
y60lx0 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | Someone has chained up my bicycle with a bike-lock, in my own yard. What can I do? (San Francisco, CA) As the title says, I just got home and someone has put a bike-lock on my bike and I have no idea what I can do about it or frankly what's going on. For context, I rent an apartment in a fourplex in San Francisco. We have a small communal yard space, which is gated but not locked. Because we're not in a particularly busy neighborhood, I just leave my bike in the yard unlocked and only store it inside when I go away for the weekend etc. I have good relations with all the other neighbors in the fourplex, and they know it's my bike. (Another neighbor has a bike that they do the same with, and theirs hasn't been touched.) I got home about an hour ago (7PM) and found someone had put a seemingly new bike chain and lock on my bike, locking it to the pillar where it normally sits. It's otherwise untouched and unmoved, so far as I can see. No idea who's done this — I've seen one neighbor so far who says it wasn't them, and the residents of the other two units appear to be out. I don't know if it's someone trying to secure it for me, or a prank, or a precursor to it being stolen. I need to use the bike tomorrow AM, and even if I didn't, I wouldn't really want to leave it out of my control overnight. So, can I legally try to cut the lock? It's not my chain, and I worry it could be considered criminal damage if I cut it off with bolt cutters or whatever. Any advice appreciated. (Flaired as "Other Civil Matters" but I'm not really sure what category this falls under.) | isp8114 | ispzfcj | 1,666,029,398 | 1,666,040,118 | 3 | 5 | sounds like you need some bolt cutters | If it’s your bike and you have proof cut the lock, it’s simple. | 0 | 10,720 | 1.666667 |
73co9h | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | WI] Employer wants to track me via GPS on my personal phone. As my title states, my employer is mandating a change from an existing online time card system to one that uses a "stopwatch" like feature to track exact time spent at work - which requires constant GPS functionality recorded by my personal phone via an app to function. The reasoning behind the new system is that I do not have a local supervisor (nearest supervisor is 180 miles away) to make sure I am physically present and working. Information that may be relevant: I work in a chain store doing demonstrations of products, but I am not employed directly by the chain store. My employer is based in California and as far as I know, they do not have a physical office in Wisconsin. This [Email informing me of the changes (anything blacked out is referring to my company, the chain store I work in, the name of the mobile app, the SVP sending the email), in the email there is a link to view/acknowledge the supplemental job expectations I have not signed into the company site it leads to. I am looking for advice to give me an idea of what my options are as far as staying with the company and not being tracked on my personal phone. I hope this all makes sense, I'll answer any clarifying questions to the best of my ability - thanks in advance. | dnqaeo3 | dnq7jge | 1,506,804,683 | 1,506,800,895 | 8 | 3 | I am not a lawyer and I did some digging, it is legal, but also can be considered illegal, https://www.greensfelder.com/business-risk-management-blog/monitoring-your-employees-through-gps-what-is-legal-and-what-are-best-practices It has both vehicle and smartphone gps info, but the main thing is, if they say "install this or you are fired" it can be taken to court, because having it installed and on outside of work can be considered invasion of privacy. Now if it was the companies phone, than it's 100% legal, since it is your personal phone, it's more grey. | IMO this is a question of how much intrusion and snooping you will accept; the extent to which your paycheck is rendered in exchange for basic human dignity. I would quit the job and never look back. | 1 | 3,788 | 2.666667 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzcgp1 | itzd6oj | 1,666,874,353 | 1,666,874,719 | 643 | 986 | File for under employment. It’s like unemployment but handles significant cuts in wages. The media won’t care about this. | Unless you had an employment contract, your pay and hours are subject to change. You just need to find alternative employment and file for unemployment in the mean time. As the other poster pointed out, going to the media likely won't yield the results you're looking plus it could probably be a nail in the coffin of you working for another church. Organizations like that typically don't appreciate employees running to the media to discuss their inner workings. | 0 | 366 | 1.533437 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | iu09q8f | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,888,262 | 287 | 183 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | >what are some actions I can take Find another job, pretty much your only option. | 1 | 2,716 | 1.568306 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | itznt87 | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,879,573 | 287 | 55 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | In general, unless you have an employment contract which states otherwise, they can reduce your work, hours, or pay at any point in time. Unless something about this story is particularly noteworthy, the media likely will not care at all… If they ran a story every single time someone got a pay cut, that’s all the news would ever be. There’s really no legal question, so I’m not sure what else to say. You stated “I know there’s probably no legal options, but what else can I do”… this sub is for specific legal advice, not generic “what should I do in general” questions. Try posting in an employment-related advice sub for that answer. | 1 | 11,405 | 5.218182 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | iu0bg70 | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,888,935 | 287 | 26 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | I didn't pick up how long it was between you quitting the old job and them cutting your pay at the new job. If this is a very short time (days, weeks) then the new job might be on the hook for what's called "reliance damages". You relied on their promise, lost an advantage as a result (the old job). Reliance damages in a situation like this would be the difference in pay from your old job to your current pay, for (again) a matter of days to weeks. The limit is that reliance damages won't last longer than some estimate of how long it takes a person to find a new job. If jobs in your field are scarce and hard to get, it might be more on the "months" side. If there's work available at or near your old pay, it might be more on the "days to weeks" side. But generally, this isn't protection against changes in business or market. So if you worked at the new job for a while and their needs changed and your hours were cut, they might not be on the hook for anything other than proper advanced notice to you and making sure that you don't fall below hourly minimum wage. I would imagine that your work field is a fairly small community, where your reputation may follow you. Scorched earth responses, including media contact, might do more harm than good. | 1 | 2,043 | 11.038462 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzxoqq | iu0grlq | 1,666,883,565 | 1,666,890,978 | 19 | 287 | You need to tell us where you are. And, the language of the offer letter matters -- in some states, the offer letter is considered to be contractual, so you have to see exactly what was promised. And, some states require advance notice of reducing salary (in NC, for example, notices of changes in salary have to be made at least one pay period before they're effective.) Nobody here would suggest speaking to the media. Suggesting that is actually against the rules (and you can see the rules for the very good reasons why that rule exists.) | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | 0 | 7,413 | 15.105263 |
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