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yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | itzraon | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,881,015 | 287 | 16 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | Depending on location, this may be considered constructive dismissal. They are basically firing you and would be subject to paying unemployment benefits at your originally agreed upon salary. I’m wary of doing business with churches, as I’ve had many bad experiences with them. It would take a written contract and full payment in advance before I did anything with any of them. | 1 | 9,963 | 17.9375 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | itzvigw | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,882,698 | 287 | 18 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | Hypothetical opinion, based on what you wrote, not legal advice. The only arguable legal claim you may have based on what you wrote is for promissory estoppel, i.e. you left a well paying job on the promise of a higher paying job, and the second employer reneged on it. Not usually an easy case to make. Your damages would be the difference between your old job's salary and your new job's reduced salary. E.g. Church A was paying you $1000/week. Church B promised you $1500 per week, but reduced that to $750 after you left Church A. Your damages would be $250 per week. ​ Whatever legal options you may have, you are obligated to try to find work as a musician that makes up for the difference in pay. If you talk to a local lawyer, ask whether that theory is viable in your case. | 1 | 8,280 | 15.944444 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | iu0dd92 | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,889,664 | 287 | 6 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | Absent an employment contract, welcome to the world of the working world at large. While I'm not sure of the legality of the new intermittent musical director without your knowledge, without a full transcript of the conversation representing both sides it may be that you left the pastor with the definite impression that you were not going to accept the results of the change in circumstances involving salary and hours and that he needed to ensure that "the show must go on" in the event you walked in the office and gave an absolute "not going to happen, I quit". If the church's financial situation is as dire as indicated (whether by self-inflicted mismanagement or other factors) you should be glad that you were at least offered a means by which you could remain part of the church music program and perhaps find additional avenues of supplementing your income v. a direct "you're being laid off" out of the blue and having an immediate reduction of income. | 1 | 1,314 | 47.833333 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0grlq | iu08ro7 | 1,666,890,978 | 1,666,887,886 | 287 | 3 | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | To both sum up and clarify the advice given here, you have two different ways that this could be perceived and thus two different means to address the problem. The first is promissory estoppel. You were offered one thing, and were given another. Their 'promise' became worthless. Given that you acted on their contract offer and they reneged on it, you are allowed to call them out their action. Legally, or otherwise. AKA, or you can call a lawyer and force them to either keep to their word, or compensate you for the broken contract. The problem with that is that their actions in and of itself was them burning a bridge with you. Responding in kind within a small field would be you burning your own bridge which might not be wise. Trying to force them to keep their contract is also most likely not worth it. Compensation for the broken contract might help you financially, but you would need to judge for yourself if the extra money would be worth the hassle and burnt bridges. The second is that this was basically constructive dismissal. An employment contract is, again, a promise to you. Dramatically changing the terms of the contract to the point where you can no longer comfortably work there means that you were effectively indirectly fired. They are forcing you out due to the unwanted change in the contract. Constructive dismissals entail their own set of rules. I would advise you to at least read up on the subject. Among other things, such dismissals do allow you to qualify for unemployment. The unemployment office will initially argue with you (as they do with everything), but if you document the situation well there should be no problem. This is the most likely the easiest path forward. Simply apply for unemployment under this rule, and look for a different job. It is against the rules of this sub to suggest you speak to the media, but even regardless of that, there isn't much point. There's not much of a story there. There may be a point in speaking to the other employees. I will not speak towards other impacts of talking to them, but it may help you collect more documentation on the situation which would further your own case (unemployment office or otherwise). | 1 | 3,092 | 95.666667 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0acgc | iu0grlq | 1,666,888,505 | 1,666,890,978 | 2 | 287 | You would probably be well-served by going to an attorney. This sounds to me like constructive dismissal, so you'd be able to resign and file for unemployment - but you need to get some actual legal advice. The way I understand it, they're essentially forcing you to resign by reducing your wages that were agreed to between you and the employer - and that's why you'd be eligible for unemployment. | There's a lot of speculation about whether church employees are covered by unemployment, but I found the actual answers online. In DC, "service performed in the employ of a church" is "exempt from coverage under District of Columbia unemployment insurance law." In MD, "employment is not covered employment if it is performed for a church." I'm sorry about your situation and I hope you find a new job soon. | 0 | 2,473 | 143.5 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu09q8f | itznt87 | 1,666,888,262 | 1,666,879,573 | 183 | 55 | >what are some actions I can take Find another job, pretty much your only option. | In general, unless you have an employment contract which states otherwise, they can reduce your work, hours, or pay at any point in time. Unless something about this story is particularly noteworthy, the media likely will not care at all… If they ran a story every single time someone got a pay cut, that’s all the news would ever be. There’s really no legal question, so I’m not sure what else to say. You stated “I know there’s probably no legal options, but what else can I do”… this sub is for specific legal advice, not generic “what should I do in general” questions. Try posting in an employment-related advice sub for that answer. | 1 | 8,689 | 3.327273 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu09q8f | itzxoqq | 1,666,888,262 | 1,666,883,565 | 183 | 19 | >what are some actions I can take Find another job, pretty much your only option. | You need to tell us where you are. And, the language of the offer letter matters -- in some states, the offer letter is considered to be contractual, so you have to see exactly what was promised. And, some states require advance notice of reducing salary (in NC, for example, notices of changes in salary have to be made at least one pay period before they're effective.) Nobody here would suggest speaking to the media. Suggesting that is actually against the rules (and you can see the rules for the very good reasons why that rule exists.) | 1 | 4,697 | 9.631579 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzraon | iu09q8f | 1,666,881,015 | 1,666,888,262 | 16 | 183 | Depending on location, this may be considered constructive dismissal. They are basically firing you and would be subject to paying unemployment benefits at your originally agreed upon salary. I’m wary of doing business with churches, as I’ve had many bad experiences with them. It would take a written contract and full payment in advance before I did anything with any of them. | >what are some actions I can take Find another job, pretty much your only option. | 0 | 7,247 | 11.4375 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu09q8f | itzvigw | 1,666,888,262 | 1,666,882,698 | 183 | 18 | >what are some actions I can take Find another job, pretty much your only option. | Hypothetical opinion, based on what you wrote, not legal advice. The only arguable legal claim you may have based on what you wrote is for promissory estoppel, i.e. you left a well paying job on the promise of a higher paying job, and the second employer reneged on it. Not usually an easy case to make. Your damages would be the difference between your old job's salary and your new job's reduced salary. E.g. Church A was paying you $1000/week. Church B promised you $1500 per week, but reduced that to $750 after you left Church A. Your damages would be $250 per week. ​ Whatever legal options you may have, you are obligated to try to find work as a musician that makes up for the difference in pay. If you talk to a local lawyer, ask whether that theory is viable in your case. | 1 | 5,564 | 10.166667 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu09q8f | iu08ro7 | 1,666,888,262 | 1,666,887,886 | 183 | 3 | >what are some actions I can take Find another job, pretty much your only option. | To both sum up and clarify the advice given here, you have two different ways that this could be perceived and thus two different means to address the problem. The first is promissory estoppel. You were offered one thing, and were given another. Their 'promise' became worthless. Given that you acted on their contract offer and they reneged on it, you are allowed to call them out their action. Legally, or otherwise. AKA, or you can call a lawyer and force them to either keep to their word, or compensate you for the broken contract. The problem with that is that their actions in and of itself was them burning a bridge with you. Responding in kind within a small field would be you burning your own bridge which might not be wise. Trying to force them to keep their contract is also most likely not worth it. Compensation for the broken contract might help you financially, but you would need to judge for yourself if the extra money would be worth the hassle and burnt bridges. The second is that this was basically constructive dismissal. An employment contract is, again, a promise to you. Dramatically changing the terms of the contract to the point where you can no longer comfortably work there means that you were effectively indirectly fired. They are forcing you out due to the unwanted change in the contract. Constructive dismissals entail their own set of rules. I would advise you to at least read up on the subject. Among other things, such dismissals do allow you to qualify for unemployment. The unemployment office will initially argue with you (as they do with everything), but if you document the situation well there should be no problem. This is the most likely the easiest path forward. Simply apply for unemployment under this rule, and look for a different job. It is against the rules of this sub to suggest you speak to the media, but even regardless of that, there isn't much point. There's not much of a story there. There may be a point in speaking to the other employees. I will not speak towards other impacts of talking to them, but it may help you collect more documentation on the situation which would further your own case (unemployment office or otherwise). | 1 | 376 | 61 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0bg70 | itzxoqq | 1,666,888,935 | 1,666,883,565 | 26 | 19 | I didn't pick up how long it was between you quitting the old job and them cutting your pay at the new job. If this is a very short time (days, weeks) then the new job might be on the hook for what's called "reliance damages". You relied on their promise, lost an advantage as a result (the old job). Reliance damages in a situation like this would be the difference in pay from your old job to your current pay, for (again) a matter of days to weeks. The limit is that reliance damages won't last longer than some estimate of how long it takes a person to find a new job. If jobs in your field are scarce and hard to get, it might be more on the "months" side. If there's work available at or near your old pay, it might be more on the "days to weeks" side. But generally, this isn't protection against changes in business or market. So if you worked at the new job for a while and their needs changed and your hours were cut, they might not be on the hook for anything other than proper advanced notice to you and making sure that you don't fall below hourly minimum wage. I would imagine that your work field is a fairly small community, where your reputation may follow you. Scorched earth responses, including media contact, might do more harm than good. | You need to tell us where you are. And, the language of the offer letter matters -- in some states, the offer letter is considered to be contractual, so you have to see exactly what was promised. And, some states require advance notice of reducing salary (in NC, for example, notices of changes in salary have to be made at least one pay period before they're effective.) Nobody here would suggest speaking to the media. Suggesting that is actually against the rules (and you can see the rules for the very good reasons why that rule exists.) | 1 | 5,370 | 1.368421 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzraon | iu0bg70 | 1,666,881,015 | 1,666,888,935 | 16 | 26 | Depending on location, this may be considered constructive dismissal. They are basically firing you and would be subject to paying unemployment benefits at your originally agreed upon salary. I’m wary of doing business with churches, as I’ve had many bad experiences with them. It would take a written contract and full payment in advance before I did anything with any of them. | I didn't pick up how long it was between you quitting the old job and them cutting your pay at the new job. If this is a very short time (days, weeks) then the new job might be on the hook for what's called "reliance damages". You relied on their promise, lost an advantage as a result (the old job). Reliance damages in a situation like this would be the difference in pay from your old job to your current pay, for (again) a matter of days to weeks. The limit is that reliance damages won't last longer than some estimate of how long it takes a person to find a new job. If jobs in your field are scarce and hard to get, it might be more on the "months" side. If there's work available at or near your old pay, it might be more on the "days to weeks" side. But generally, this isn't protection against changes in business or market. So if you worked at the new job for a while and their needs changed and your hours were cut, they might not be on the hook for anything other than proper advanced notice to you and making sure that you don't fall below hourly minimum wage. I would imagine that your work field is a fairly small community, where your reputation may follow you. Scorched earth responses, including media contact, might do more harm than good. | 0 | 7,920 | 1.625 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzvigw | iu0bg70 | 1,666,882,698 | 1,666,888,935 | 18 | 26 | Hypothetical opinion, based on what you wrote, not legal advice. The only arguable legal claim you may have based on what you wrote is for promissory estoppel, i.e. you left a well paying job on the promise of a higher paying job, and the second employer reneged on it. Not usually an easy case to make. Your damages would be the difference between your old job's salary and your new job's reduced salary. E.g. Church A was paying you $1000/week. Church B promised you $1500 per week, but reduced that to $750 after you left Church A. Your damages would be $250 per week. ​ Whatever legal options you may have, you are obligated to try to find work as a musician that makes up for the difference in pay. If you talk to a local lawyer, ask whether that theory is viable in your case. | I didn't pick up how long it was between you quitting the old job and them cutting your pay at the new job. If this is a very short time (days, weeks) then the new job might be on the hook for what's called "reliance damages". You relied on their promise, lost an advantage as a result (the old job). Reliance damages in a situation like this would be the difference in pay from your old job to your current pay, for (again) a matter of days to weeks. The limit is that reliance damages won't last longer than some estimate of how long it takes a person to find a new job. If jobs in your field are scarce and hard to get, it might be more on the "months" side. If there's work available at or near your old pay, it might be more on the "days to weeks" side. But generally, this isn't protection against changes in business or market. So if you worked at the new job for a while and their needs changed and your hours were cut, they might not be on the hook for anything other than proper advanced notice to you and making sure that you don't fall below hourly minimum wage. I would imagine that your work field is a fairly small community, where your reputation may follow you. Scorched earth responses, including media contact, might do more harm than good. | 0 | 6,237 | 1.444444 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu08ro7 | iu0bg70 | 1,666,887,886 | 1,666,888,935 | 3 | 26 | To both sum up and clarify the advice given here, you have two different ways that this could be perceived and thus two different means to address the problem. The first is promissory estoppel. You were offered one thing, and were given another. Their 'promise' became worthless. Given that you acted on their contract offer and they reneged on it, you are allowed to call them out their action. Legally, or otherwise. AKA, or you can call a lawyer and force them to either keep to their word, or compensate you for the broken contract. The problem with that is that their actions in and of itself was them burning a bridge with you. Responding in kind within a small field would be you burning your own bridge which might not be wise. Trying to force them to keep their contract is also most likely not worth it. Compensation for the broken contract might help you financially, but you would need to judge for yourself if the extra money would be worth the hassle and burnt bridges. The second is that this was basically constructive dismissal. An employment contract is, again, a promise to you. Dramatically changing the terms of the contract to the point where you can no longer comfortably work there means that you were effectively indirectly fired. They are forcing you out due to the unwanted change in the contract. Constructive dismissals entail their own set of rules. I would advise you to at least read up on the subject. Among other things, such dismissals do allow you to qualify for unemployment. The unemployment office will initially argue with you (as they do with everything), but if you document the situation well there should be no problem. This is the most likely the easiest path forward. Simply apply for unemployment under this rule, and look for a different job. It is against the rules of this sub to suggest you speak to the media, but even regardless of that, there isn't much point. There's not much of a story there. There may be a point in speaking to the other employees. I will not speak towards other impacts of talking to them, but it may help you collect more documentation on the situation which would further your own case (unemployment office or otherwise). | I didn't pick up how long it was between you quitting the old job and them cutting your pay at the new job. If this is a very short time (days, weeks) then the new job might be on the hook for what's called "reliance damages". You relied on their promise, lost an advantage as a result (the old job). Reliance damages in a situation like this would be the difference in pay from your old job to your current pay, for (again) a matter of days to weeks. The limit is that reliance damages won't last longer than some estimate of how long it takes a person to find a new job. If jobs in your field are scarce and hard to get, it might be more on the "months" side. If there's work available at or near your old pay, it might be more on the "days to weeks" side. But generally, this isn't protection against changes in business or market. So if you worked at the new job for a while and their needs changed and your hours were cut, they might not be on the hook for anything other than proper advanced notice to you and making sure that you don't fall below hourly minimum wage. I would imagine that your work field is a fairly small community, where your reputation may follow you. Scorched earth responses, including media contact, might do more harm than good. | 0 | 1,049 | 8.666667 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0acgc | iu0bg70 | 1,666,888,505 | 1,666,888,935 | 2 | 26 | You would probably be well-served by going to an attorney. This sounds to me like constructive dismissal, so you'd be able to resign and file for unemployment - but you need to get some actual legal advice. The way I understand it, they're essentially forcing you to resign by reducing your wages that were agreed to between you and the employer - and that's why you'd be eligible for unemployment. | I didn't pick up how long it was between you quitting the old job and them cutting your pay at the new job. If this is a very short time (days, weeks) then the new job might be on the hook for what's called "reliance damages". You relied on their promise, lost an advantage as a result (the old job). Reliance damages in a situation like this would be the difference in pay from your old job to your current pay, for (again) a matter of days to weeks. The limit is that reliance damages won't last longer than some estimate of how long it takes a person to find a new job. If jobs in your field are scarce and hard to get, it might be more on the "months" side. If there's work available at or near your old pay, it might be more on the "days to weeks" side. But generally, this isn't protection against changes in business or market. So if you worked at the new job for a while and their needs changed and your hours were cut, they might not be on the hook for anything other than proper advanced notice to you and making sure that you don't fall below hourly minimum wage. I would imagine that your work field is a fairly small community, where your reputation may follow you. Scorched earth responses, including media contact, might do more harm than good. | 0 | 430 | 13 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzraon | itzxoqq | 1,666,881,015 | 1,666,883,565 | 16 | 19 | Depending on location, this may be considered constructive dismissal. They are basically firing you and would be subject to paying unemployment benefits at your originally agreed upon salary. I’m wary of doing business with churches, as I’ve had many bad experiences with them. It would take a written contract and full payment in advance before I did anything with any of them. | You need to tell us where you are. And, the language of the offer letter matters -- in some states, the offer letter is considered to be contractual, so you have to see exactly what was promised. And, some states require advance notice of reducing salary (in NC, for example, notices of changes in salary have to be made at least one pay period before they're effective.) Nobody here would suggest speaking to the media. Suggesting that is actually against the rules (and you can see the rules for the very good reasons why that rule exists.) | 0 | 2,550 | 1.1875 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzxoqq | itzvigw | 1,666,883,565 | 1,666,882,698 | 19 | 18 | You need to tell us where you are. And, the language of the offer letter matters -- in some states, the offer letter is considered to be contractual, so you have to see exactly what was promised. And, some states require advance notice of reducing salary (in NC, for example, notices of changes in salary have to be made at least one pay period before they're effective.) Nobody here would suggest speaking to the media. Suggesting that is actually against the rules (and you can see the rules for the very good reasons why that rule exists.) | Hypothetical opinion, based on what you wrote, not legal advice. The only arguable legal claim you may have based on what you wrote is for promissory estoppel, i.e. you left a well paying job on the promise of a higher paying job, and the second employer reneged on it. Not usually an easy case to make. Your damages would be the difference between your old job's salary and your new job's reduced salary. E.g. Church A was paying you $1000/week. Church B promised you $1500 per week, but reduced that to $750 after you left Church A. Your damages would be $250 per week. ​ Whatever legal options you may have, you are obligated to try to find work as a musician that makes up for the difference in pay. If you talk to a local lawyer, ask whether that theory is viable in your case. | 1 | 867 | 1.055556 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | itzvigw | itzraon | 1,666,882,698 | 1,666,881,015 | 18 | 16 | Hypothetical opinion, based on what you wrote, not legal advice. The only arguable legal claim you may have based on what you wrote is for promissory estoppel, i.e. you left a well paying job on the promise of a higher paying job, and the second employer reneged on it. Not usually an easy case to make. Your damages would be the difference between your old job's salary and your new job's reduced salary. E.g. Church A was paying you $1000/week. Church B promised you $1500 per week, but reduced that to $750 after you left Church A. Your damages would be $250 per week. ​ Whatever legal options you may have, you are obligated to try to find work as a musician that makes up for the difference in pay. If you talk to a local lawyer, ask whether that theory is viable in your case. | Depending on location, this may be considered constructive dismissal. They are basically firing you and would be subject to paying unemployment benefits at your originally agreed upon salary. I’m wary of doing business with churches, as I’ve had many bad experiences with them. It would take a written contract and full payment in advance before I did anything with any of them. | 1 | 1,683 | 1.125 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0dd92 | iu0it91 | 1,666,889,664 | 1,666,891,768 | 6 | 7 | Absent an employment contract, welcome to the world of the working world at large. While I'm not sure of the legality of the new intermittent musical director without your knowledge, without a full transcript of the conversation representing both sides it may be that you left the pastor with the definite impression that you were not going to accept the results of the change in circumstances involving salary and hours and that he needed to ensure that "the show must go on" in the event you walked in the office and gave an absolute "not going to happen, I quit". If the church's financial situation is as dire as indicated (whether by self-inflicted mismanagement or other factors) you should be glad that you were at least offered a means by which you could remain part of the church music program and perhaps find additional avenues of supplementing your income v. a direct "you're being laid off" out of the blue and having an immediate reduction of income. | It is hard for anyone to provide you legitimate legal advice if you don't comply with the rules of the subreddit - which include the location of where you are at as laws change depending on location. Do you have a contract for employment with this new church? Does the contract specify they may alter your compensation at will without written approval? There are a LOT of details missing from your post. It is not possible to provide you legal advice without more information. | 0 | 2,104 | 1.166667 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu08ro7 | iu0it91 | 1,666,887,886 | 1,666,891,768 | 3 | 7 | To both sum up and clarify the advice given here, you have two different ways that this could be perceived and thus two different means to address the problem. The first is promissory estoppel. You were offered one thing, and were given another. Their 'promise' became worthless. Given that you acted on their contract offer and they reneged on it, you are allowed to call them out their action. Legally, or otherwise. AKA, or you can call a lawyer and force them to either keep to their word, or compensate you for the broken contract. The problem with that is that their actions in and of itself was them burning a bridge with you. Responding in kind within a small field would be you burning your own bridge which might not be wise. Trying to force them to keep their contract is also most likely not worth it. Compensation for the broken contract might help you financially, but you would need to judge for yourself if the extra money would be worth the hassle and burnt bridges. The second is that this was basically constructive dismissal. An employment contract is, again, a promise to you. Dramatically changing the terms of the contract to the point where you can no longer comfortably work there means that you were effectively indirectly fired. They are forcing you out due to the unwanted change in the contract. Constructive dismissals entail their own set of rules. I would advise you to at least read up on the subject. Among other things, such dismissals do allow you to qualify for unemployment. The unemployment office will initially argue with you (as they do with everything), but if you document the situation well there should be no problem. This is the most likely the easiest path forward. Simply apply for unemployment under this rule, and look for a different job. It is against the rules of this sub to suggest you speak to the media, but even regardless of that, there isn't much point. There's not much of a story there. There may be a point in speaking to the other employees. I will not speak towards other impacts of talking to them, but it may help you collect more documentation on the situation which would further your own case (unemployment office or otherwise). | It is hard for anyone to provide you legitimate legal advice if you don't comply with the rules of the subreddit - which include the location of where you are at as laws change depending on location. Do you have a contract for employment with this new church? Does the contract specify they may alter your compensation at will without written approval? There are a LOT of details missing from your post. It is not possible to provide you legal advice without more information. | 0 | 3,882 | 2.333333 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0it91 | iu0acgc | 1,666,891,768 | 1,666,888,505 | 7 | 2 | It is hard for anyone to provide you legitimate legal advice if you don't comply with the rules of the subreddit - which include the location of where you are at as laws change depending on location. Do you have a contract for employment with this new church? Does the contract specify they may alter your compensation at will without written approval? There are a LOT of details missing from your post. It is not possible to provide you legal advice without more information. | You would probably be well-served by going to an attorney. This sounds to me like constructive dismissal, so you'd be able to resign and file for unemployment - but you need to get some actual legal advice. The way I understand it, they're essentially forcing you to resign by reducing your wages that were agreed to between you and the employer - and that's why you'd be eligible for unemployment. | 1 | 3,263 | 3.5 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0dd92 | iu08ro7 | 1,666,889,664 | 1,666,887,886 | 6 | 3 | Absent an employment contract, welcome to the world of the working world at large. While I'm not sure of the legality of the new intermittent musical director without your knowledge, without a full transcript of the conversation representing both sides it may be that you left the pastor with the definite impression that you were not going to accept the results of the change in circumstances involving salary and hours and that he needed to ensure that "the show must go on" in the event you walked in the office and gave an absolute "not going to happen, I quit". If the church's financial situation is as dire as indicated (whether by self-inflicted mismanagement or other factors) you should be glad that you were at least offered a means by which you could remain part of the church music program and perhaps find additional avenues of supplementing your income v. a direct "you're being laid off" out of the blue and having an immediate reduction of income. | To both sum up and clarify the advice given here, you have two different ways that this could be perceived and thus two different means to address the problem. The first is promissory estoppel. You were offered one thing, and were given another. Their 'promise' became worthless. Given that you acted on their contract offer and they reneged on it, you are allowed to call them out their action. Legally, or otherwise. AKA, or you can call a lawyer and force them to either keep to their word, or compensate you for the broken contract. The problem with that is that their actions in and of itself was them burning a bridge with you. Responding in kind within a small field would be you burning your own bridge which might not be wise. Trying to force them to keep their contract is also most likely not worth it. Compensation for the broken contract might help you financially, but you would need to judge for yourself if the extra money would be worth the hassle and burnt bridges. The second is that this was basically constructive dismissal. An employment contract is, again, a promise to you. Dramatically changing the terms of the contract to the point where you can no longer comfortably work there means that you were effectively indirectly fired. They are forcing you out due to the unwanted change in the contract. Constructive dismissals entail their own set of rules. I would advise you to at least read up on the subject. Among other things, such dismissals do allow you to qualify for unemployment. The unemployment office will initially argue with you (as they do with everything), but if you document the situation well there should be no problem. This is the most likely the easiest path forward. Simply apply for unemployment under this rule, and look for a different job. It is against the rules of this sub to suggest you speak to the media, but even regardless of that, there isn't much point. There's not much of a story there. There may be a point in speaking to the other employees. I will not speak towards other impacts of talking to them, but it may help you collect more documentation on the situation which would further your own case (unemployment office or otherwise). | 1 | 1,778 | 2 |
yeqpsa | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | My employer wants to cut my wages by half, and I want to see what actions I can take. Good morning. I'm a long-time church musician who recently moved to a bigger church with more music budget. Unfortunately, due to the mismanagement of funds, lack of financial support, and the departure of the music director, the pastor reached out to me and frankly said that they'll have to stop doing weekly rehearsals and reduce my work hours and reduce my annual salary down by half, which won't be enough for me to financially support myself. Apparently, they found someone as an intermittent music director without telling me or the other musicians whom I rehearse with. This would be utterly devastating, for multiple reasons. I already submitted my offer letter with the original salary, and I don't know what grounds that they have to decimate my salary. Furthermore, I left my old church of 7 years because of the competitive salary, and at this point, I would not be able to go back, since they already found someone. I feel pretty sick to my stomach, because they told me that they still appreciate my musicianship, and told me all sorts of saccharine bullshit about how this has nothing to do with my skills, but has the audacity to pull this. I personally don't expect that there can be anything legally done, but what are some actions I can take? In the meantime, I'm looking for other church musician jobs in the area. The other musicians whom I work and rehearse with me don't know this yet. I could go salted earth route and tell them what has happened, and maybe some of them will depart from the church. Or I don't know. Speak to the media. Thank you. | iu0acgc | iu0dd92 | 1,666,888,505 | 1,666,889,664 | 2 | 6 | You would probably be well-served by going to an attorney. This sounds to me like constructive dismissal, so you'd be able to resign and file for unemployment - but you need to get some actual legal advice. The way I understand it, they're essentially forcing you to resign by reducing your wages that were agreed to between you and the employer - and that's why you'd be eligible for unemployment. | Absent an employment contract, welcome to the world of the working world at large. While I'm not sure of the legality of the new intermittent musical director without your knowledge, without a full transcript of the conversation representing both sides it may be that you left the pastor with the definite impression that you were not going to accept the results of the change in circumstances involving salary and hours and that he needed to ensure that "the show must go on" in the event you walked in the office and gave an absolute "not going to happen, I quit". If the church's financial situation is as dire as indicated (whether by self-inflicted mismanagement or other factors) you should be glad that you were at least offered a means by which you could remain part of the church music program and perhaps find additional avenues of supplementing your income v. a direct "you're being laid off" out of the blue and having an immediate reduction of income. | 0 | 1,159 | 3 |
tx8k1u | legaladvice_train | 0.81 | Suing a law firm because of a misbehaving paralegal. Is this possible? One year ago I contacted a law firm because concerns arose about the eligibility of an unemployment insurance claim filed the previous year. A paralegal then contacted me and I had a 30 minute phone consultation in which he reassured me repeatedly that my claim was eligible. 9-10 months later I learned that he was wrong about everything. I called that firm back to set up an appointment with the attorney and he admitted that he didn't know what he was talking about. He said he'd "have to do some research." He then set me up with an appointment, not with the attorney, but for an in-person meeting with him. I canceled the appointment the following day, realizing it was foolish to attend. Now I'm finding out that he never should have advised me at all. To me that was an authoritive source, someone from a law firm who must know what they are talking about. But apparently it's illegal for him to have given legal advice? At the time of that consultation I could have repaid the EDD 50% of the benefits I had received and set up a payment plan. I have both mental health and physical disabilities so my income is limited. Repayment now will not be possible without at least doubling my income. Is it possible to sue this law firm? The distress that this issue has caused has resulted in the worst mental health crisis of my life. My situation has been made far worse by accepting advice from someone who should not have been advising me in the first place. I live in California, in Los Angeles County. | i3l6owr | i3l1k4b | 1,649,220,583 | 1,649,217,612 | 7 | 2 | There are two different issues here. One is an ethics violations which you can report to the State Bar. You won't benefit personally from this but I would encourage you to do it if you can. The other is suing for malpractice. Your challenge will be showing the harm that was done to you as a result. It sounds like you relied on the advice to not pay back benefits. So with or without the bad advice, you would still owe that money. You would have a possible claim for any penalties and interest that have been accruing since that point in time. | What specific advice did you accept? There’s a difference between “legal advice” and “legal information”. The distinction is clear. | 1 | 2,971 | 3.5 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bam14 | i4b9eyj | 1,649,695,385 | 1,649,694,926 | 1,057 | 592 | Wow! An actual Establishment Clause issue. The ACLU is going to be more than happy to help you. Keep in mind however that even though you'd be *legally* correct here, challenging this action is going to have very real practical consequences if you choose to remain as part of this community. I don't think this is going to be a reason not to make some noise -- just make sure your eyes are open as to the community's response. | I'm assuming this is a public school? Is this actually organized by the school itself, or is it organized by a student organization within the school? | 1 | 459 | 1.785473 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bam14 | i4b93cc | 1,649,695,385 | 1,649,694,806 | 1,057 | 45 | Wow! An actual Establishment Clause issue. The ACLU is going to be more than happy to help you. Keep in mind however that even though you'd be *legally* correct here, challenging this action is going to have very real practical consequences if you choose to remain as part of this community. I don't think this is going to be a reason not to make some noise -- just make sure your eyes are open as to the community's response. | Does it actually say "Christ like" or are you just assuming? Because most every religion has sacred texts. | 1 | 579 | 23.488889 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4b93cc | i4b9eyj | 1,649,694,806 | 1,649,694,926 | 45 | 592 | Does it actually say "Christ like" or are you just assuming? Because most every religion has sacred texts. | I'm assuming this is a public school? Is this actually organized by the school itself, or is it organized by a student organization within the school? | 0 | 120 | 13.155556 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bkyua | i4bvl4s | 1,649,699,263 | 1,649,704,663 | 98 | 168 | The Freedom From Religion Foundation might also be able to help. | So this \*might be\* allowed as long as the administration doesn't show favoritism to one particular religion. This is the loophole to the establishment clause that allows for the government to have religious display. The Satanic Temple has multiple outstanding court cases. https://thesatanictemple.com/ You could go to the administration and request a "Child of Baphomet" award. | 0 | 5,400 | 1.714286 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4b93cc | i4bvl4s | 1,649,694,806 | 1,649,704,663 | 45 | 168 | Does it actually say "Christ like" or are you just assuming? Because most every religion has sacred texts. | So this \*might be\* allowed as long as the administration doesn't show favoritism to one particular religion. This is the loophole to the establishment clause that allows for the government to have religious display. The Satanic Temple has multiple outstanding court cases. https://thesatanictemple.com/ You could go to the administration and request a "Child of Baphomet" award. | 0 | 9,857 | 3.733333 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bgpma | i4bvl4s | 1,649,697,669 | 1,649,704,663 | 36 | 168 | If this is a public school, I’d reach out to your local ACLU chapter. They’re the experts. If this is a private school, the award is fine. | So this \*might be\* allowed as long as the administration doesn't show favoritism to one particular religion. This is the loophole to the establishment clause that allows for the government to have religious display. The Satanic Temple has multiple outstanding court cases. https://thesatanictemple.com/ You could go to the administration and request a "Child of Baphomet" award. | 0 | 6,994 | 4.666667 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bn3vw | i4bvl4s | 1,649,700,063 | 1,649,704,663 | 29 | 168 | This is facially unconstitutional. If someone sued over this, they could probably win. https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty/religion-and-public-schools this is a brief from the ACLU this kinda stuff is kinda their jam. | So this \*might be\* allowed as long as the administration doesn't show favoritism to one particular religion. This is the loophole to the establishment clause that allows for the government to have religious display. The Satanic Temple has multiple outstanding court cases. https://thesatanictemple.com/ You could go to the administration and request a "Child of Baphomet" award. | 0 | 4,600 | 5.793103 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bso4h | i4bvl4s | 1,649,702,831 | 1,649,704,663 | 11 | 168 | Contact the ACLU. | So this \*might be\* allowed as long as the administration doesn't show favoritism to one particular religion. This is the loophole to the establishment clause that allows for the government to have religious display. The Satanic Temple has multiple outstanding court cases. https://thesatanictemple.com/ You could go to the administration and request a "Child of Baphomet" award. | 0 | 1,832 | 15.272727 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4b93cc | i4bkyua | 1,649,694,806 | 1,649,699,263 | 45 | 98 | Does it actually say "Christ like" or are you just assuming? Because most every religion has sacred texts. | The Freedom From Religion Foundation might also be able to help. | 0 | 4,457 | 2.177778 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bgpma | i4bkyua | 1,649,697,669 | 1,649,699,263 | 36 | 98 | If this is a public school, I’d reach out to your local ACLU chapter. They’re the experts. If this is a private school, the award is fine. | The Freedom From Religion Foundation might also be able to help. | 0 | 1,594 | 2.722222 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4b93cc | i4byzbn | 1,649,694,806 | 1,649,706,004 | 45 | 51 | Does it actually say "Christ like" or are you just assuming? Because most every religion has sacred texts. | Not a lawyer: I also suggest contacting The Satanic Temple - it's a wonderful organization who likes to use situations like this to sponsor awards that parallel the predominant religious activity. | 0 | 11,198 | 1.133333 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bgpma | i4byzbn | 1,649,697,669 | 1,649,706,004 | 36 | 51 | If this is a public school, I’d reach out to your local ACLU chapter. They’re the experts. If this is a private school, the award is fine. | Not a lawyer: I also suggest contacting The Satanic Temple - it's a wonderful organization who likes to use situations like this to sponsor awards that parallel the predominant religious activity. | 0 | 8,335 | 1.416667 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4bn3vw | i4byzbn | 1,649,700,063 | 1,649,706,004 | 29 | 51 | This is facially unconstitutional. If someone sued over this, they could probably win. https://www.aclu.org/issues/religious-liberty/religion-and-public-schools this is a brief from the ACLU this kinda stuff is kinda their jam. | Not a lawyer: I also suggest contacting The Satanic Temple - it's a wonderful organization who likes to use situations like this to sponsor awards that parallel the predominant religious activity. | 0 | 5,941 | 1.758621 |
u1bq7o | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (Tennessee, US) My high school is officially organizing a religious award. What is the case law surrounding religious sponsorship in K–12 schools? My high school is organizing a religious award, entitled Doer of the Word, in which high school seniors may vote for the student they consider to be the most “Christ-like.” Everything I've heard about Supreme Court case law suggests to me that a religion may not be officially sponsored by the administration of a school, but I haven't seen anything governing this specific circumstance. Is there any case law relating to these sorts of awards? | i4byzbn | i4bso4h | 1,649,706,004 | 1,649,702,831 | 51 | 11 | Not a lawyer: I also suggest contacting The Satanic Temple - it's a wonderful organization who likes to use situations like this to sponsor awards that parallel the predominant religious activity. | Contact the ACLU. | 1 | 3,173 | 4.636364 |
4n9phc | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | (Indiana) If you are sued in small claims court and win, but the loser continues to file law suits against you, is there any legal way to stop the harassment? I came across this story recently: http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/money/nation-now/2016/06/06/man-sued-30k-over-40-printer-he-sold-craigslist/85478168/ So this guy is sued over a $40 printer, wins the small claims case against him, yet is harassed over a 6 year period by the loser. What should he have done to prevent it? | d429fbk | d432kuj | 1,465,480,114 | 1,465,520,414 | 3 | 4 | Petition the court to label them a vexatious litigant. If it is granted then they will have a much harder time filing as the court will scrutinize their complaints much more closely. | OP, to answer your question directly, the defendant should have responded when he was served with process. He says he didn't get it, in which case it should be pretty easy to set aside. The Plaintiff, according to news reports has been now warned that he cannot file anything unless there is an imminent threat of serious bodily injury, or something like that. Anyway, I was working as a court reporter when one of his cases was transferred to our county after multiple recusals. I have spoken with this guy on the phone probably 4 or 5 times. It was interesting. | 0 | 40,300 | 1.333333 |
4n9phc | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | (Indiana) If you are sued in small claims court and win, but the loser continues to file law suits against you, is there any legal way to stop the harassment? I came across this story recently: http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/money/nation-now/2016/06/06/man-sued-30k-over-40-printer-he-sold-craigslist/85478168/ So this guy is sued over a $40 printer, wins the small claims case against him, yet is harassed over a 6 year period by the loser. What should he have done to prevent it? | d432kuj | d42e6z7 | 1,465,520,414 | 1,465,486,734 | 4 | 3 | OP, to answer your question directly, the defendant should have responded when he was served with process. He says he didn't get it, in which case it should be pretty easy to set aside. The Plaintiff, according to news reports has been now warned that he cannot file anything unless there is an imminent threat of serious bodily injury, or something like that. Anyway, I was working as a court reporter when one of his cases was transferred to our county after multiple recusals. I have spoken with this guy on the phone probably 4 or 5 times. It was interesting. | Early on in the process, after the buyer lost the first suit in small claims court, he served (using the court process) the seller three ridiculous requests, demanding the seller to "admit" fraud, that he colluded with the judge in the small claims court, and other nonsense, and demanded $300,000. The seller, understandably, ignored him. Unfortunately, that was a big mistake. Apparently these were lawsuits, as ridiculous as they were, and in his state, the law required that he respond. Since he didn't respond, he was considered "guilty" by default, and that led to the many years of lunacy that followed. He could have prevented the additional aggravation if he had responded in time to the three requests that were "served" to him by the buyer. I can understand why he didn't but apparently it was the wrong thing to do, legally speaking. | 1 | 33,680 | 1.333333 |
ylhhqd | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | Visitation with bio father turned into taking my son My son is almost 9. I’m his mother. He’s lived with me since he was born- his father is on the birth certificate, but we broke up before he was 1. It was always amicable-he saw My son whenever he wanted, even moved in with us i between apartments one time. He did leave for a year in between in my sons toddler years to another city while he was having a hard time. Anyways, 3 years ago I moved about 1.5 hours away from the city we all lived in with my son. It was COVID. I started drinking more. From now til then, I’ve been to a hospital twice to detox. There’s also a police report of an incident at a pool (I wasn’t the one the report was made for), but it does say everyone was drinking. Since June, I have relapsed once. My sons father found out. My son went to visit his dad with the intention of “staying for 2 days”. He enrolled him in a new school, apparently tried to get emergency custody (it was denied), and now is taking me to court for full custody bc of my drinking. I have been going to AA everyday. I am scheduled for the VIVITROL shot on Monday. I have not been drinking at all since this happened mid October. How can I prove my custody so I can get my child back and back into his school/routine before this court case? Do things look bad for me? | iv1fgos | iv1nlr9 | 1,667,576,847 | 1,667,580,025 | 2 | 31 | I am not a lawyer but if he doesn’t have custody and is keeping him away from you, is that not fairly cut and dry kidnapping? | I might be off base for thinking this, but maybe it's best for the kid to be with his father while you deal with your issues rather than to keep relapsing and him having to suffer through it with you. This is a situation where you have to think what is best for the kid. You haven't mentioned any abuse from the father towards the son, just that he has been away at times, while he was straightening out his own life. People need to stop looking at children as possessions and realize that they are living breathing people who have their own needs. I know this is taboo to say, but sometimes the mother is not the best parent, especially if they struggle with addiction and have a history of relapse. | 0 | 3,178 | 15.5 |
ylhhqd | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | Visitation with bio father turned into taking my son My son is almost 9. I’m his mother. He’s lived with me since he was born- his father is on the birth certificate, but we broke up before he was 1. It was always amicable-he saw My son whenever he wanted, even moved in with us i between apartments one time. He did leave for a year in between in my sons toddler years to another city while he was having a hard time. Anyways, 3 years ago I moved about 1.5 hours away from the city we all lived in with my son. It was COVID. I started drinking more. From now til then, I’ve been to a hospital twice to detox. There’s also a police report of an incident at a pool (I wasn’t the one the report was made for), but it does say everyone was drinking. Since June, I have relapsed once. My sons father found out. My son went to visit his dad with the intention of “staying for 2 days”. He enrolled him in a new school, apparently tried to get emergency custody (it was denied), and now is taking me to court for full custody bc of my drinking. I have been going to AA everyday. I am scheduled for the VIVITROL shot on Monday. I have not been drinking at all since this happened mid October. How can I prove my custody so I can get my child back and back into his school/routine before this court case? Do things look bad for me? | iv1x8zv | iv1fgos | 1,667,583,707 | 1,667,576,847 | 5 | 2 | Poor kid | I am not a lawyer but if he doesn’t have custody and is keeping him away from you, is that not fairly cut and dry kidnapping? | 1 | 6,860 | 2.5 |
6fiitr | legaladvice_train | 0.68 | Deadbeat dad wants visitation and rights after 8 years. Help! Hi Reddit, I really need some advice. I have an almost 10 year old son who I've solely taken care of his whole life. I had him when I was 20 with my middle/high school sweetheart..sadly he got mixed up with drugs, did a lot of awful things and I had to leave him, my home, and everything I knew pretty much when I was 22 ( my son had just turned 2 at the time). During the past 8 years he's continually abused drugs, committed multiple crimes and been in and out of jail and prison. He has never paid child support or made much of an attempt at cleaning up his act. 6 weeks ago he was released from an almost 3 year stay in prison. He's now trying to contact me and says he wants to see our son. After 8 years of not being there and doing nothing for him I'm not interested in making any agreements with him off the record l. I just do not trust him. I told him if his intentions are true then he needs to establish his paternity and basically take me to court. He says he's going to do that but I don't think he actually has the financial means to do all of that right now. We live in Florida. My question is does he have any rights after not being there or paying child support in over 8 years? Do I have a legal obligation to let him see our son? If he actually does get a lawyer, what can I expect next? Thanks for any feedback | diiw58p | diiiqtc | 1,496,741,121 | 1,496,715,213 | 4 | 3 | In my state, he would be opening himself up to a bunch of back child support. If that's true where you live, he might not file. You're not clear on the old child support order, if he has ignored an order for years, there can be consequences. My state would hunt him down like an animal and maybe even jail him for ignoring s child support order for that long. | You should really talk to a lawyer about terminating his parental rights. | 1 | 25,908 | 1.333333 |
t6jju3 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Landlord added an extra $10 to my payment portal after I already paid rent on the last day, and now is trying to charge me an extra $50 late fee. This is in Oklahoma. The title is mostly all of it. I paid my rent about two weeks ago around the middle of the month. Yesterday, at the last day of the period that they accept payment, my landlord added an extra $10 for a slight rent increase (they previously mentioned a couple months ago that this would be done, but they did not specify it would not be included in the regular sum of rent). My landlord has now subsequently added a $50 late fee on top of that balance this morning, since I did not see and pay the fee in time. Do I have any rights here? Am I in the wrong for this? | hzbgrg8 | hzbm5ak | 1,646,403,236 | 1,646,405,609 | 45 | 244 | What does your lease say about late fees? | Have you reached out to your landlord about this? I bet the portal just added the fee automatically | 0 | 2,373 | 5.422222 |
t6jju3 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Landlord added an extra $10 to my payment portal after I already paid rent on the last day, and now is trying to charge me an extra $50 late fee. This is in Oklahoma. The title is mostly all of it. I paid my rent about two weeks ago around the middle of the month. Yesterday, at the last day of the period that they accept payment, my landlord added an extra $10 for a slight rent increase (they previously mentioned a couple months ago that this would be done, but they did not specify it would not be included in the regular sum of rent). My landlord has now subsequently added a $50 late fee on top of that balance this morning, since I did not see and pay the fee in time. Do I have any rights here? Am I in the wrong for this? | hzbgrg8 | hzcgwsn | 1,646,403,236 | 1,646,417,910 | 45 | 83 | What does your lease say about late fees? | Do you get a receipt when you pay through the portal? A zero balance due receipt showing you paid in full the balance owed at the time may help when you talk to the billing office. | 0 | 14,674 | 1.844444 |
wxe7fy | legaladvice_train | 0.83 | (AL) My boss is taking lunch breaks out of my time even though I don't take lunches every day. As the title states, I am having multiple hours taken from me, when I'm not even taking breaks. I know that legally, they have to provide breaks, but I don't have to take them. Also, if I'm working in any capacity, they can't take my time. What are some options in terms of getting all of my time that they've, for lack of a better word, stole? | ilqwtiw | ilru5vs | 1,661,442,568 | 1,661,455,215 | 4 | 5 | While he does owe you for the time worked, some states make it mandatory they give you a lunch alabama is not one of them. You two will have to work it out. If he refuses you can file a wage claim. https://www.laborlawcenter.com/education-center/alabama-lunch-and-break-law/ https://www.employmentlawhelp.org/wage-theft/how-to-file-by-state/alabama | >I know that legally, they have to provide breaks, This is not true. In Alabama, employers aren't required to provide breaks of any kind (assuming you're over 15 years old). > but I don't have to take them. Legally, you're correct. You are not legally obligated to take breaks if your company elects to provide them. That's just company policy though, not a legal issue. The can require you to take breaks, or require you to never take breaks, and fire you if you violate company policy. But you're correct that you must be paid for all time worked. This is wage theft. I would alert your supervisor to the timesheet error, ask that it be corrected, and gather evidence to escalate if they fail to correct the issue. You can take this to your state's department of labor to file a wage claim, if your employer brushes you off. | 0 | 12,647 | 1.25 |
cbn6ox | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My boss has been deducting 30 min lunches from my time card every day (even though I have probably taken only 10 lunch breaks since I started working there) and I don't know if this is something that is legal. Just like it says in the title. I am a PT hourly employee at a well-known auto parts store in South FL and I have been working here for about 4 months. Before anyone asks why I didn't realize this earlier, you can only check your time punches in store and my password never worked. There is no password reset procedure aside from calling corporate and being placed on hold for an hour. I finally did this the other day and realized looking through my punches that i have clockouts for lunch every day lasting exactly 30 mins and always starting at the top of the hour or one of its quarters. I rarely take a lunch as I typically don't work very long shifts. If I had to guess I would say I have taken maybe 10 lunches since I started working here. These random clockouts go all the way back to when I first started and equate to hundreds of dollars that I have not been paid. Now maybe it is totally legal for them to do this? I don't know and I can't find many answers to this online. I guess that's my question, are they legally able to manipulate my time card and not pay me for time that I was working? It just doesn't feel right to me. | etgrizp | etgso8i | 1,562,797,332 | 1,562,798,028 | 2 | 28 | Very illegal. Florida doesnt have any specific laws dictating break for people over 18 years old. Maybe your boss assumes you're taking your full lunch? If you're comfortable, then ask him about it. My suggestion is to take your full 30 minutes every day. Since FL is a "right to work" state, if you piss your boss off he can just fire you, he doesnt have to give you a reason. | You must be paid for your time worked. That being said, if your boss tells you that you must leave for lunch every day, you must also do that. It might be assumed that you're taking these required breaks and the punches are automatically set. This is making a lot of assumptions, though, and we'll need more information. | 0 | 696 | 14 |
cbn6ox | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My boss has been deducting 30 min lunches from my time card every day (even though I have probably taken only 10 lunch breaks since I started working there) and I don't know if this is something that is legal. Just like it says in the title. I am a PT hourly employee at a well-known auto parts store in South FL and I have been working here for about 4 months. Before anyone asks why I didn't realize this earlier, you can only check your time punches in store and my password never worked. There is no password reset procedure aside from calling corporate and being placed on hold for an hour. I finally did this the other day and realized looking through my punches that i have clockouts for lunch every day lasting exactly 30 mins and always starting at the top of the hour or one of its quarters. I rarely take a lunch as I typically don't work very long shifts. If I had to guess I would say I have taken maybe 10 lunches since I started working here. These random clockouts go all the way back to when I first started and equate to hundreds of dollars that I have not been paid. Now maybe it is totally legal for them to do this? I don't know and I can't find many answers to this online. I guess that's my question, are they legally able to manipulate my time card and not pay me for time that I was working? It just doesn't feel right to me. | etgrizp | ethcy4f | 1,562,797,332 | 1,562,812,084 | 2 | 5 | Very illegal. Florida doesnt have any specific laws dictating break for people over 18 years old. Maybe your boss assumes you're taking your full lunch? If you're comfortable, then ask him about it. My suggestion is to take your full 30 minutes every day. Since FL is a "right to work" state, if you piss your boss off he can just fire you, he doesnt have to give you a reason. | A former employer of mine automatically deducted 1hr, and I had to ask hr to change it to 30min as I almost never took that long. It might just be something automatic in the way your system is set up. Your boss should be able to fix if that's the case. Your boss will probably tell you to make sure and take the break everyday from now on. This all of course assumes nothing malicious and your boss being a reasonable human being. | 0 | 14,752 | 2.5 |
s29123 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Boss told me they are reducing me to a part time employee after 6 years of full time work. I think they’re trying to get me to quit. Is that legal? I just found out yesterday that my full-time position is being “reduced” to part-time. I was told verbally, no official paper trail. The more time I’ve had to think about, I’m wondering if this is legal? If they outright “let me go” I’d get a severance plus be eligible for unemployment. By forcing me to go part time, I think they’re hoping I’ll quit (so they’re off the hook) or that it’s just a stepping stone to firing me so that I can’t get a severance or unemployment. I’m also assuming I’ll lose all my benefits when the change takes place (healthcare, 401k, maternity leave, vacation days) on top of a major reduction in my salary. I’m already looking for other jobs, I just feel like they’re purposely trying to screw me over after 6 years of loyal service and I’m wondering if I have a leg to stand on here, legally speaking. I’m also 10 weeks pregnant, but my boss and HR don’t know yet. So I’m completely f’ed in terms of maternity leave. Would it make a difference at this point to mention my pregnancy? Also figured I’d mention that the reason my role is being reduced is so they can “free up headcount space” for a new sales position. It has nothing to do with me as an employee and it sounds like they want me to keep up with my current work tasks since I do “such a good job” | hsdc0kj | hsdr718 | 1,642,007,361 | 1,642,012,983 | 213 | 1,039 | if your work is reduced and so is your pay, you could still file for unemployment. I've had an employee do that and get paid. They won't keep the money because they collected it wrongly (I still paid them like they were working full time w PPP funds), but you could do that. | Loss of wages is a valid unemployment case in a lot of states, especially with 6 years worth of consistent pay stubs and w2s | 0 | 5,622 | 4.877934 |
xb9504 | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | just quit my job and boss is threatening that I will not get a check at all if I don't come in I'm in Virginia. Yeah basically I quit my job as a contractor delivering newspapers and my boss is threatening that if I do not come in I will not receive any pay for the work I have performed. I am 99% sure this is illegal af and was wondering the avenues I go through to report this and the company thanks | io0yjm3 | iny8ojg | 1,662,923,807 | 1,662,872,634 | 45 | 11 | You should not be 99% sure you should be 100% sure. There is basically no situation I can think of where an employer doesn't have to pay an employee for services rendered. While I am sure there is some sort of scenario out there, and it may be state law specific, the odds that this is it seems low. VA law requires final paycheck to be paid on the regularly scheduled payday. I had an employer try to withhold mine and reported them to my state labor board and got my pay. Another company made a habit of not mailing out checks for employees who stopped working. Eventually they got sued and my check from them got doubled. I suppose what I am saying is check with your labor board. Here is a handy link to start you on the right path https://www.doli.virginia.gov/labor-law/ | Did you enter into a contract as a subcontractor? | 1 | 51,173 | 4.090909 |
xb9504 | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | just quit my job and boss is threatening that I will not get a check at all if I don't come in I'm in Virginia. Yeah basically I quit my job as a contractor delivering newspapers and my boss is threatening that if I do not come in I will not receive any pay for the work I have performed. I am 99% sure this is illegal af and was wondering the avenues I go through to report this and the company thanks | inzwbi7 | io0yjm3 | 1,662,909,331 | 1,662,923,807 | 5 | 45 | Figure out how much he owes you and file for it in court. Depending on the amount you may be able to file in small claims court. Call your local county clerk and ask how to file. The courts will enforce the contract. | You should not be 99% sure you should be 100% sure. There is basically no situation I can think of where an employer doesn't have to pay an employee for services rendered. While I am sure there is some sort of scenario out there, and it may be state law specific, the odds that this is it seems low. VA law requires final paycheck to be paid on the regularly scheduled payday. I had an employer try to withhold mine and reported them to my state labor board and got my pay. Another company made a habit of not mailing out checks for employees who stopped working. Eventually they got sued and my check from them got doubled. I suppose what I am saying is check with your labor board. Here is a handy link to start you on the right path https://www.doli.virginia.gov/labor-law/ | 0 | 14,476 | 9 |
xb9504 | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | just quit my job and boss is threatening that I will not get a check at all if I don't come in I'm in Virginia. Yeah basically I quit my job as a contractor delivering newspapers and my boss is threatening that if I do not come in I will not receive any pay for the work I have performed. I am 99% sure this is illegal af and was wondering the avenues I go through to report this and the company thanks | io1ic91 | iny8ojg | 1,662,930,931 | 1,662,872,634 | 12 | 11 | Virginia is somewhat similar to my state. Contact the labor board, inform them of what happened and have proof of you hours,income, and employment before you quit. Itll take them a few days to get back ahold of you but they will get ahold of you. | Did you enter into a contract as a subcontractor? | 1 | 58,297 | 1.090909 |
xb9504 | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | just quit my job and boss is threatening that I will not get a check at all if I don't come in I'm in Virginia. Yeah basically I quit my job as a contractor delivering newspapers and my boss is threatening that if I do not come in I will not receive any pay for the work I have performed. I am 99% sure this is illegal af and was wondering the avenues I go through to report this and the company thanks | inzwbi7 | io1ic91 | 1,662,909,331 | 1,662,930,931 | 5 | 12 | Figure out how much he owes you and file for it in court. Depending on the amount you may be able to file in small claims court. Call your local county clerk and ask how to file. The courts will enforce the contract. | Virginia is somewhat similar to my state. Contact the labor board, inform them of what happened and have proof of you hours,income, and employment before you quit. Itll take them a few days to get back ahold of you but they will get ahold of you. | 0 | 21,600 | 2.4 |
xb9504 | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | just quit my job and boss is threatening that I will not get a check at all if I don't come in I'm in Virginia. Yeah basically I quit my job as a contractor delivering newspapers and my boss is threatening that if I do not come in I will not receive any pay for the work I have performed. I am 99% sure this is illegal af and was wondering the avenues I go through to report this and the company thanks | io2mbns | io1xtzp | 1,662,948,278 | 1,662,937,138 | 5 | 4 | You must get paid for work already done, in full. There is NO LAWFUL CIRCUMSTANCE under which you can be docked pay for work that has already been performed. Contact your state's Labor Department. | 200% illegal. https://www.bbb.org/us/va Better business bureau. File a complaint File a complaint with the Commissioner of the Department of Labor and Industry. f your employer knowingly failed to pay you, you can recover: Three times the amount of unpaid wages AND Reasonable attorney fees and costs. What if my employer retaliates against me? Beginning on July 1, 2020, Virginia law will prohibit employers from retaliating against employees who: File an unpaid wages complaint with the Commission of the Department of Labor and Industry, File a lawsuit for unpaid wages, or Testify in connection with an unpaid wages claim. If your employer retaliates against you, you can file a complaint with the Commissioner. The Commissioner may bring legal action against your employer. If the action is successful, your employer may be ordered to reinstate you to your job and pay you two times the amount of wages you lost because of the retaliation. | 1 | 11,140 | 1.25 |
ow7ar7 | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | Boss asked me to change my lunch time to appear as if I took lunch before my 5th hour. Is this legal? (CA). I took lunch after my fifth hour. It was a busy day and I forgot to take it before. Nobody or nothing specifically stopped me from taking an earlier lunch, I just got caught up in the grind. My boss sent me an email saying I need change my time card to reflect a lunch time before my fifth hour. They also said that anyone can be terminated for violating company policy which feels like a threat. Is it legal that they’re asking me to change my lunch time to look as if I took it before the fifth hour so they don’t have to pay the penalty? This is in California -US. TYIA | h7e8zez | h7e8jbh | 1,627,879,708 | 1,627,879,405 | 60 | 42 | You're supposed to receive your meal break within the first 5 hours of the workday, as per CA regulations. They might get in some trouble if you reported it, but it doesn't sound like anyone forced or even asked you not to take lunch. (Though I guess they bare some responsibility for not ensuring you took lunch in time.) If you chose to delay lunch, they could discipline or even fire you for that. And that would be warranted. It's akin to working unauthorized overtime. Is this a hill you want to die on? | They’ll pay the penalty and discipline you for sure if you don’t change it. | 1 | 303 | 1.428571 |
ow7ar7 | legaladvice_train | 0.88 | Boss asked me to change my lunch time to appear as if I took lunch before my 5th hour. Is this legal? (CA). I took lunch after my fifth hour. It was a busy day and I forgot to take it before. Nobody or nothing specifically stopped me from taking an earlier lunch, I just got caught up in the grind. My boss sent me an email saying I need change my time card to reflect a lunch time before my fifth hour. They also said that anyone can be terminated for violating company policy which feels like a threat. Is it legal that they’re asking me to change my lunch time to look as if I took it before the fifth hour so they don’t have to pay the penalty? This is in California -US. TYIA | h7eblhe | h7ewurr | 1,627,881,547 | 1,627,899,674 | 12 | 13 | You're filling in your own timecard, so it sounds like a favor your boss asked to avoid technicalities. If boss ever tells you to move hours around such that you don't get OT, that's worse, but you can always ask if you can not have OT on paper, and just 1.5X the hours that would count as OT -- that would work in your PTO benefit even -- sometimes bosses of bosses forbid OT, but your direct boss knows better. You technically are setting yourself up vulnerable because someone can audit you, and accuse you of bullshitting your hours, but the opposite of these types of modifications is power tripping middle managers that write you up, "suzy if you don't take your 15 you're gonna get a writeup". IMO this is a problem of an hourly employee that should be salaried. I run into this all the time, and made a spreadsheet that turns cells red when time or break errors exist before i load it into the master timecard. Imagine having 5:15 hh:mm of work for a day. Now you have to end work 30 minutes later because of your stupid lunch. | Technically, if you didn't take your meal break before the *end* of your fifth hour and your employer didn't actively take measures to relieve you of duty and ensure you were given a reasonable opportunity to take your break, they'd owe you an additional hour's pay. That premium isn't owed if your employer did relieve you of duty for the appropriate period but you voluntarily chose to continue working through your meal period in spite of being relieved, though, so it's not necessarily a black and white situation. While your employer's request is technically illegal, you might want to consider whether it's really in your best interest to push back on this particular issue. If it was genuinely entirely your fault that you took a lunch late and your employer didn't pressure you to keep working or skip your break in any way, it might be better for all concerned to just let this one slide. You can definitely be disciplined for not taking your required meal period on time, and that's likely to be the outcome if your time card reflects that late meal period. While you could fight their request and you might win, in the end you'd likely be trading your job (or at least an amicable relationship with your employer) for an hour's pay at best. It's up to you whether that (or the principle of the matter) is worth the potential cost. | 0 | 18,127 | 1.083333 |
u9vs63 | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbor Claims to Own My Backyard My husband and I bought a house in Denver in 2015. Next door neighbor bought their house in 2020 and claims to own my backyard. They are trying to charge us $66k for a 500 square foot piece of land directly behind my house. The neighbor's dad is a retired property line lawyer. We bought the house with the assumption that the backyard was ours. The listing included the following statement, "backyard patio area is great for entertaining all your guests." Also, our appraisal includes the backyard that they are claiming is their property. We're trying to move and were wanting to sell our house, but now we can't because of this property dispute. I'm the sole income earner for our family of 5, and we frankly can't afford to pay $66k for this piece of land. Our title company is refusing to help, even though we bought extended coverage on our title insurance. We don't know what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated! | i5u2f0a | i5u21pp | 1,650,683,297 | 1,650,683,102 | 218 | 14 | Did you have a survey performed when you bought the property? You should have a copy of the survey documents with all of the closing paperwork. Look over that documentation. If you didn't have a survey performed, call up a surveying company and have them come out and perform a survey. | Have you had a professional survey done? That's the first step to clearing up any property line issues. | 1 | 195 | 15.571429 |
u9vs63 | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbor Claims to Own My Backyard My husband and I bought a house in Denver in 2015. Next door neighbor bought their house in 2020 and claims to own my backyard. They are trying to charge us $66k for a 500 square foot piece of land directly behind my house. The neighbor's dad is a retired property line lawyer. We bought the house with the assumption that the backyard was ours. The listing included the following statement, "backyard patio area is great for entertaining all your guests." Also, our appraisal includes the backyard that they are claiming is their property. We're trying to move and were wanting to sell our house, but now we can't because of this property dispute. I'm the sole income earner for our family of 5, and we frankly can't afford to pay $66k for this piece of land. Our title company is refusing to help, even though we bought extended coverage on our title insurance. We don't know what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated! | i5us8ea | i5u21pp | 1,650,700,970 | 1,650,683,102 | 148 | 14 | Lawyer here. (Not yours and not from colorado) at this stage, you need a lawyer more than you need a survey. If i understand your comments, you have reason to believe the property in question is your neighbors, or once was. Even if that is true, you may have a claim by adverse possession. If you occupied the property openly, notoriously, adversely, and under claim of right for a sufficient period of time, you may have acquired ownership by operation of law. Also, under the doctrine of tacking, you may be able to add the prior owners’ years of possession to yours to achieve the required duration. A local real estate lawyer can help figure out if you meet colorado requirements. However you would then need to go to court to “quiet title” so that a buyer of your home would know that they were getting that land. Anyway the threat of this might give you leverage to negotiate with neighbor. Incidentally, “retired property line lawyer” sounds like b.s. they could be trying to intimidate you with that. Good luck. | Have you had a professional survey done? That's the first step to clearing up any property line issues. | 1 | 17,868 | 10.571429 |
u9vs63 | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbor Claims to Own My Backyard My husband and I bought a house in Denver in 2015. Next door neighbor bought their house in 2020 and claims to own my backyard. They are trying to charge us $66k for a 500 square foot piece of land directly behind my house. The neighbor's dad is a retired property line lawyer. We bought the house with the assumption that the backyard was ours. The listing included the following statement, "backyard patio area is great for entertaining all your guests." Also, our appraisal includes the backyard that they are claiming is their property. We're trying to move and were wanting to sell our house, but now we can't because of this property dispute. I'm the sole income earner for our family of 5, and we frankly can't afford to pay $66k for this piece of land. Our title company is refusing to help, even though we bought extended coverage on our title insurance. We don't know what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated! | i5u8j7g | i5us8ea | 1,650,686,665 | 1,650,700,970 | 8 | 148 | The county or city should have a plat filed with your deed. That will at least give you an idea whether you own the backyard, although you should definitely get a survey done anyway. | Lawyer here. (Not yours and not from colorado) at this stage, you need a lawyer more than you need a survey. If i understand your comments, you have reason to believe the property in question is your neighbors, or once was. Even if that is true, you may have a claim by adverse possession. If you occupied the property openly, notoriously, adversely, and under claim of right for a sufficient period of time, you may have acquired ownership by operation of law. Also, under the doctrine of tacking, you may be able to add the prior owners’ years of possession to yours to achieve the required duration. A local real estate lawyer can help figure out if you meet colorado requirements. However you would then need to go to court to “quiet title” so that a buyer of your home would know that they were getting that land. Anyway the threat of this might give you leverage to negotiate with neighbor. Incidentally, “retired property line lawyer” sounds like b.s. they could be trying to intimidate you with that. Good luck. | 0 | 14,305 | 18.5 |
u9vs63 | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbor Claims to Own My Backyard My husband and I bought a house in Denver in 2015. Next door neighbor bought their house in 2020 and claims to own my backyard. They are trying to charge us $66k for a 500 square foot piece of land directly behind my house. The neighbor's dad is a retired property line lawyer. We bought the house with the assumption that the backyard was ours. The listing included the following statement, "backyard patio area is great for entertaining all your guests." Also, our appraisal includes the backyard that they are claiming is their property. We're trying to move and were wanting to sell our house, but now we can't because of this property dispute. I'm the sole income earner for our family of 5, and we frankly can't afford to pay $66k for this piece of land. Our title company is refusing to help, even though we bought extended coverage on our title insurance. We don't know what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated! | i5us8ea | i5uis57 | 1,650,700,970 | 1,650,693,427 | 148 | 8 | Lawyer here. (Not yours and not from colorado) at this stage, you need a lawyer more than you need a survey. If i understand your comments, you have reason to believe the property in question is your neighbors, or once was. Even if that is true, you may have a claim by adverse possession. If you occupied the property openly, notoriously, adversely, and under claim of right for a sufficient period of time, you may have acquired ownership by operation of law. Also, under the doctrine of tacking, you may be able to add the prior owners’ years of possession to yours to achieve the required duration. A local real estate lawyer can help figure out if you meet colorado requirements. However you would then need to go to court to “quiet title” so that a buyer of your home would know that they were getting that land. Anyway the threat of this might give you leverage to negotiate with neighbor. Incidentally, “retired property line lawyer” sounds like b.s. they could be trying to intimidate you with that. Good luck. | Since you didn't have a survey done you need to get one done now. You may be able to talk to a lawyer about the realtor if they misrepresented the property. | 1 | 7,543 | 18.5 |
u9vs63 | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbor Claims to Own My Backyard My husband and I bought a house in Denver in 2015. Next door neighbor bought their house in 2020 and claims to own my backyard. They are trying to charge us $66k for a 500 square foot piece of land directly behind my house. The neighbor's dad is a retired property line lawyer. We bought the house with the assumption that the backyard was ours. The listing included the following statement, "backyard patio area is great for entertaining all your guests." Also, our appraisal includes the backyard that they are claiming is their property. We're trying to move and were wanting to sell our house, but now we can't because of this property dispute. I'm the sole income earner for our family of 5, and we frankly can't afford to pay $66k for this piece of land. Our title company is refusing to help, even though we bought extended coverage on our title insurance. We don't know what to do. Any advice is greatly appreciated! | i5v5ibs | i5vu0ie | 1,650,712,295 | 1,650,725,733 | 6 | 7 | You need to speak to a property lawyer. You will need to get a survey done but you might aswell get a lawyer first as they can best advise you on that. Regardless of what the survey says since it is disputed you need a lawyer so better to start here. You need to establish: 1. Who owns the land 2. If the other party has any right or claim to the land (adverse possession or easement for example) 3. If you have any claim for being misled during the buying process or other mitigation such as title insurance. If it is the case that they own the land and you have no claim then you really have 3 options: 1. Negotiate with the neighbour to buy the land 2. Stop using the land 3. Another arrangement such as a lease over the land | Not a lawyer. You should get a survey done asap. Don't just believe the neighbor or his lawyer father. Also, look online especially where you pay property taxes (government owned site). There should be information about your property. What acreage/area have you been paying on. In my state and city, details referring to my property (taxes), there are different kinds of info regarding the property such as map showing physical boundaries of property (actual grid lines, plot number, legal description, etc.). If you have HOA, there should be recorded plot maps, etc of your property. Recorded documents (deed/mortage) should also be registered with your local county court. Get a lawyer asap. But also get survey asap. Sometimes getting a survey done takes time. So start the ball rolling now as you find local real estate lawyer. Also, follow-up with title insurance. They dropped the ball if they are not helping you especially with extended warranty! From there, lawyer will provide you with best options. Remember, neighbor's lawyer/ dad is looking out for neighbor's interests! | 0 | 13,438 | 1.166667 |
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yhx8fj | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | ND, USA: Stupid Question: neighbor is claiming my leaves have fallen in his yard and they’re my responsibility to clean My (new) neighbor and I both have large trees which have recently shed their leaves. Some leaves are in the area between our two driveways and he has told me, in no uncertain terms, that it is my responsibility to clean all the leaves off both of our respective pieces of property. We both have trees, as mentioned, so it’s not possible to tell who’s leaves are who’s. He has been cleaning leaves more often, and I prefer to clean the leaves when most have fallen off the trees so I don’t have to do it multiple times, which I believe is not applicable to this situation. Am I responsible for cleaning the leaves off his property? | iug4sl7 | iug52x1 | 1,667,180,465 | 1,667,180,603 | 7 | 561 | No. | Yeah no. Pretty sure responsibility ends at your property line when it comes to leaves. He also has the ability to cut any branches that extend past the property line to the property line provided it doesn’t risk the health and life of your tree. But ultimately no, he needs to clean up his own lawn within his property line or buy a house that isn’t around any trees. | 0 | 138 | 80.142857 |
yhx8fj | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | ND, USA: Stupid Question: neighbor is claiming my leaves have fallen in his yard and they’re my responsibility to clean My (new) neighbor and I both have large trees which have recently shed their leaves. Some leaves are in the area between our two driveways and he has told me, in no uncertain terms, that it is my responsibility to clean all the leaves off both of our respective pieces of property. We both have trees, as mentioned, so it’s not possible to tell who’s leaves are who’s. He has been cleaning leaves more often, and I prefer to clean the leaves when most have fallen off the trees so I don’t have to do it multiple times, which I believe is not applicable to this situation. Am I responsible for cleaning the leaves off his property? | iuh5xf8 | iugj8t3 | 1,667,205,993 | 1,667,187,643 | 125 | 55 | No. Do remember to congratulate him on being a first time home owner with his first yard with tree. It must be a very confusing time for him. | Each of you is entitled to, and responsible for, anything from trees that falls into your respective yards. That means any leaves or natural debris that lands in his yard is his problem, and if you have fruit trees any fruit that lands in his yard is his property to sell or eat as he wishes. He gets all of it, the good and the bad. | 1 | 18,350 | 2.272727 |
yhx8fj | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | ND, USA: Stupid Question: neighbor is claiming my leaves have fallen in his yard and they’re my responsibility to clean My (new) neighbor and I both have large trees which have recently shed their leaves. Some leaves are in the area between our two driveways and he has told me, in no uncertain terms, that it is my responsibility to clean all the leaves off both of our respective pieces of property. We both have trees, as mentioned, so it’s not possible to tell who’s leaves are who’s. He has been cleaning leaves more often, and I prefer to clean the leaves when most have fallen off the trees so I don’t have to do it multiple times, which I believe is not applicable to this situation. Am I responsible for cleaning the leaves off his property? | iug4sl7 | iuh5xf8 | 1,667,180,465 | 1,667,205,993 | 7 | 125 | No. | No. Do remember to congratulate him on being a first time home owner with his first yard with tree. It must be a very confusing time for him. | 0 | 25,528 | 17.857143 |
yhx8fj | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | ND, USA: Stupid Question: neighbor is claiming my leaves have fallen in his yard and they’re my responsibility to clean My (new) neighbor and I both have large trees which have recently shed their leaves. Some leaves are in the area between our two driveways and he has told me, in no uncertain terms, that it is my responsibility to clean all the leaves off both of our respective pieces of property. We both have trees, as mentioned, so it’s not possible to tell who’s leaves are who’s. He has been cleaning leaves more often, and I prefer to clean the leaves when most have fallen off the trees so I don’t have to do it multiple times, which I believe is not applicable to this situation. Am I responsible for cleaning the leaves off his property? | iugj8t3 | iug4sl7 | 1,667,187,643 | 1,667,180,465 | 55 | 7 | Each of you is entitled to, and responsible for, anything from trees that falls into your respective yards. That means any leaves or natural debris that lands in his yard is his problem, and if you have fruit trees any fruit that lands in his yard is his property to sell or eat as he wishes. He gets all of it, the good and the bad. | No. | 1 | 7,178 | 7.857143 |
yhx8fj | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | ND, USA: Stupid Question: neighbor is claiming my leaves have fallen in his yard and they’re my responsibility to clean My (new) neighbor and I both have large trees which have recently shed their leaves. Some leaves are in the area between our two driveways and he has told me, in no uncertain terms, that it is my responsibility to clean all the leaves off both of our respective pieces of property. We both have trees, as mentioned, so it’s not possible to tell who’s leaves are who’s. He has been cleaning leaves more often, and I prefer to clean the leaves when most have fallen off the trees so I don’t have to do it multiple times, which I believe is not applicable to this situation. Am I responsible for cleaning the leaves off his property? | iug4sl7 | iuhovvv | 1,667,180,465 | 1,667,220,059 | 7 | 8 | No. | He is responsible for cleaning leaves on his property to comply with HoA and City/County standards. We don't fo anything with our leaves as they provide a ton of shelter for small insects and animals through the winter, and break down into an organic mulch to fertilize your yard. | 0 | 39,594 | 1.142857 |
5wssls | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | (Kansas) I parked my car legally on the side of the street. People who lived in the house I parked by left a signed taped on my windshield saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY". Can I do anything about this? I park down the street from my place of work because the parking lot is always full. I sometimes park by this one house. Last week today, they left a note saying "Please park your car in front of the house you are visiting/carpooling with. You are not to dump your car here." I parked there a few more times out of necessity, and today they left a sign saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY" taped onto my windshield with packaging tape. When I got to my car, they came out of their house and yelled at me, telling me that I need to stop "dumping" my car there, telling me that their guests can no longer park there because of me, and that I need to park in the parking lot (this was after I told them that the parking lot was full). I still have both notes. I'm just wondering if they did anything illegal by putting the second sign on my car. | ded6t6l | ded2uvj | 1,488,375,261 | 1,488,366,339 | 74 | 45 | Place a sign on their door saying "ABANDONED HOUSE, PLEASE DEMOLISH." But in all seriousness, your easiest way of dealing with this is probably to find a different spot to park. | Not legal, but practical advice. Buy a dash cam incase anything happens. | 1 | 8,922 | 1.644444 |
5wssls | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | (Kansas) I parked my car legally on the side of the street. People who lived in the house I parked by left a signed taped on my windshield saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY". Can I do anything about this? I park down the street from my place of work because the parking lot is always full. I sometimes park by this one house. Last week today, they left a note saying "Please park your car in front of the house you are visiting/carpooling with. You are not to dump your car here." I parked there a few more times out of necessity, and today they left a sign saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY" taped onto my windshield with packaging tape. When I got to my car, they came out of their house and yelled at me, telling me that I need to stop "dumping" my car there, telling me that their guests can no longer park there because of me, and that I need to park in the parking lot (this was after I told them that the parking lot was full). I still have both notes. I'm just wondering if they did anything illegal by putting the second sign on my car. | dectx7x | ded6t6l | 1,488,344,989 | 1,488,375,261 | 17 | 74 | Possibly vandalism, but if the car was actually towed due to the sign, you could arguably sue them for costs associated with the tow. | Place a sign on their door saying "ABANDONED HOUSE, PLEASE DEMOLISH." But in all seriousness, your easiest way of dealing with this is probably to find a different spot to park. | 0 | 30,272 | 4.352941 |
5wssls | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | (Kansas) I parked my car legally on the side of the street. People who lived in the house I parked by left a signed taped on my windshield saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY". Can I do anything about this? I park down the street from my place of work because the parking lot is always full. I sometimes park by this one house. Last week today, they left a note saying "Please park your car in front of the house you are visiting/carpooling with. You are not to dump your car here." I parked there a few more times out of necessity, and today they left a sign saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY" taped onto my windshield with packaging tape. When I got to my car, they came out of their house and yelled at me, telling me that I need to stop "dumping" my car there, telling me that their guests can no longer park there because of me, and that I need to park in the parking lot (this was after I told them that the parking lot was full). I still have both notes. I'm just wondering if they did anything illegal by putting the second sign on my car. | dectx7x | ded2uvj | 1,488,344,989 | 1,488,366,339 | 17 | 45 | Possibly vandalism, but if the car was actually towed due to the sign, you could arguably sue them for costs associated with the tow. | Not legal, but practical advice. Buy a dash cam incase anything happens. | 0 | 21,350 | 2.647059 |
5wssls | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | (Kansas) I parked my car legally on the side of the street. People who lived in the house I parked by left a signed taped on my windshield saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY". Can I do anything about this? I park down the street from my place of work because the parking lot is always full. I sometimes park by this one house. Last week today, they left a note saying "Please park your car in front of the house you are visiting/carpooling with. You are not to dump your car here." I parked there a few more times out of necessity, and today they left a sign saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY" taped onto my windshield with packaging tape. When I got to my car, they came out of their house and yelled at me, telling me that I need to stop "dumping" my car there, telling me that their guests can no longer park there because of me, and that I need to park in the parking lot (this was after I told them that the parking lot was full). I still have both notes. I'm just wondering if they did anything illegal by putting the second sign on my car. | dedlqty | dedplha | 1,488,392,768 | 1,488,396,849 | 2 | 4 | Good advice in this thread so far. Recommend a dash cam also, just incase they decide to key your car or something. | Put a note on the inside of your windshield in bigger letters saying the car is not abandoned, is parked legally and should not be towed without the verified owner present. | 0 | 4,081 | 2 |
5wssls | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | (Kansas) I parked my car legally on the side of the street. People who lived in the house I parked by left a signed taped on my windshield saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY". Can I do anything about this? I park down the street from my place of work because the parking lot is always full. I sometimes park by this one house. Last week today, they left a note saying "Please park your car in front of the house you are visiting/carpooling with. You are not to dump your car here." I parked there a few more times out of necessity, and today they left a sign saying "ABANDONED CAR, PLEASE TOW AWAY" taped onto my windshield with packaging tape. When I got to my car, they came out of their house and yelled at me, telling me that I need to stop "dumping" my car there, telling me that their guests can no longer park there because of me, and that I need to park in the parking lot (this was after I told them that the parking lot was full). I still have both notes. I'm just wondering if they did anything illegal by putting the second sign on my car. | dedlqty | dee161h | 1,488,392,768 | 1,488,409,474 | 2 | 3 | Good advice in this thread so far. Recommend a dash cam also, just incase they decide to key your car or something. | They used packaging tape? If that's left any irrevocable glue marks on your screen, that's vandalism. Report them. | 0 | 16,706 | 1.5 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebiqfox | ebin2cr | 1,544,475,982 | 1,544,473,409 | 148 | 2 | Why not go down to the local police station and ask to speak to a community relations officer. You might be able to get an officer to come to speak to your neighbor before anyone's car is towed. Its better to prevent problems than to fix them. | There are some questions here. It is possible that you can not park on the curb in front of your neighbor's house. Are you sure the street is a publicly owned road? In some communities, the residential streets are privately owned, in which case special parking rules may apply. This would likely be dictated by your HOA. It might be worthwhile to make sure you're clear on this point before getting into a game of chicken with you, your neighbors, and the tow company. | 1 | 2,573 | 74 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebiu2i7 | ebj2td7 | 1,544,478,815 | 1,544,486,222 | 53 | 68 | To add to everyone else's advice: see if you can train a camera from your house window onto the spot where the car is parked. The may try to have it towed; if they do so, I concur with others here that there's not a 100% guarantee that the tow company won't just tow it anyway and then you have to pay upfront to get it back. But secondarily, they may try vandalize; we see that here a lot with parking disputes. If your car is mysteriously keyed, you'' probably have no evidence it was them unless you've got a video recording. | I would check with city code enforcement first to see if it is legal to park there on trash day. The city rules on block trash cans imply it is on the person putting the cans out to make sure they are not blocked, but it is not 100% clear. | 0 | 7,407 | 1.283019 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebj2td7 | ebin2cr | 1,544,486,222 | 1,544,473,409 | 68 | 2 | I would check with city code enforcement first to see if it is legal to park there on trash day. The city rules on block trash cans imply it is on the person putting the cans out to make sure they are not blocked, but it is not 100% clear. | There are some questions here. It is possible that you can not park on the curb in front of your neighbor's house. Are you sure the street is a publicly owned road? In some communities, the residential streets are privately owned, in which case special parking rules may apply. This would likely be dictated by your HOA. It might be worthwhile to make sure you're clear on this point before getting into a game of chicken with you, your neighbors, and the tow company. | 1 | 12,813 | 34 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebin2cr | ebiu2i7 | 1,544,473,409 | 1,544,478,815 | 2 | 53 | There are some questions here. It is possible that you can not park on the curb in front of your neighbor's house. Are you sure the street is a publicly owned road? In some communities, the residential streets are privately owned, in which case special parking rules may apply. This would likely be dictated by your HOA. It might be worthwhile to make sure you're clear on this point before getting into a game of chicken with you, your neighbors, and the tow company. | To add to everyone else's advice: see if you can train a camera from your house window onto the spot where the car is parked. The may try to have it towed; if they do so, I concur with others here that there's not a 100% guarantee that the tow company won't just tow it anyway and then you have to pay upfront to get it back. But secondarily, they may try vandalize; we see that here a lot with parking disputes. If your car is mysteriously keyed, you'' probably have no evidence it was them unless you've got a video recording. | 0 | 5,406 | 26.5 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebj5e18 | ebj32iz | 1,544,488,520 | 1,544,486,447 | 16 | 12 | Why not just not park the car there on Mondays and avoid the hassle? It seems like a reasonable request and any other solution is just going to lead to you wasting your time and additional stress. | Do you have automated trash trucks, the ones with the big claw that picks up and dumps your bins? My city says the bin must be placed 4' from anything else or they won't dump it. My neighbor parked his car right behind my bin (on the grass, not the street - whole other issue, AirBnB, etc.) and I they left my bin un-dumped. I let him know to never do this again on trash days unless he wants his Mini full of trash, and he's been OK since. ​ Some neighborhoods have scheduled street sweeper days, etc. too - so check your HOA or city/county website and see if there is a no-parking-on-Monday-night rule for your area. ​ If you are preventing their trash from being dumped, they have a right to be upset. If not, they are just being jerks. Even letting your neighbor know that they can put the bins near your car and you will move them when you leave Tuesday AM might be enough to make this issue go away. | 1 | 2,073 | 1.333333 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebin2cr | ebj5e18 | 1,544,473,409 | 1,544,488,520 | 2 | 16 | There are some questions here. It is possible that you can not park on the curb in front of your neighbor's house. Are you sure the street is a publicly owned road? In some communities, the residential streets are privately owned, in which case special parking rules may apply. This would likely be dictated by your HOA. It might be worthwhile to make sure you're clear on this point before getting into a game of chicken with you, your neighbors, and the tow company. | Why not just not park the car there on Mondays and avoid the hassle? It seems like a reasonable request and any other solution is just going to lead to you wasting your time and additional stress. | 0 | 15,111 | 8 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebj32iz | ebin2cr | 1,544,486,447 | 1,544,473,409 | 12 | 2 | Do you have automated trash trucks, the ones with the big claw that picks up and dumps your bins? My city says the bin must be placed 4' from anything else or they won't dump it. My neighbor parked his car right behind my bin (on the grass, not the street - whole other issue, AirBnB, etc.) and I they left my bin un-dumped. I let him know to never do this again on trash days unless he wants his Mini full of trash, and he's been OK since. ​ Some neighborhoods have scheduled street sweeper days, etc. too - so check your HOA or city/county website and see if there is a no-parking-on-Monday-night rule for your area. ​ If you are preventing their trash from being dumped, they have a right to be upset. If not, they are just being jerks. Even letting your neighbor know that they can put the bins near your car and you will move them when you leave Tuesday AM might be enough to make this issue go away. | There are some questions here. It is possible that you can not park on the curb in front of your neighbor's house. Are you sure the street is a publicly owned road? In some communities, the residential streets are privately owned, in which case special parking rules may apply. This would likely be dictated by your HOA. It might be worthwhile to make sure you're clear on this point before getting into a game of chicken with you, your neighbors, and the tow company. | 1 | 13,038 | 6 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebin2cr | ebk5syn | 1,544,473,409 | 1,544,533,107 | 2 | 4 | There are some questions here. It is possible that you can not park on the curb in front of your neighbor's house. Are you sure the street is a publicly owned road? In some communities, the residential streets are privately owned, in which case special parking rules may apply. This would likely be dictated by your HOA. It might be worthwhile to make sure you're clear on this point before getting into a game of chicken with you, your neighbors, and the tow company. | I am not a lawyer, but I am local to you. Alot of the advice seems off-base here. CA has lots of rules on towing. You can't private tow from a public street. The city has to come out and find a violation. (Even towing on private property is hard, you have to issue a warning. And post notices. And personally sign a document for every tow). So there shouldn't be an issue of you getting towed directly from the owner. You should probably ensure you are following any driveway offset/ hydrant rules, your registration is up to date, but... So basically, he can call the city and report you. If you are doing nothing wrong, there will be nothing for parking enforcement to do. Edit: Saw it could be private. First thing to find out. Doesn't really matter if there is not the proper tow notices posted. Note: Tow-company initiated tows are illegal in CA. A property owner cannot just give a company blanket authorization to tow bad cars as is done elsewhere. Except for certain emergency situations (blocking exits), all tows must be individually authorized by an authority that certifies the legal requirement is meet. This is a public official for public streets (or certain zones on private streets) or a representative of the private property owner in the case of private property. In your case, it is the police, parking enforcement, or your HOA. Unless your neighbor owns the street, it is not him... | 0 | 59,698 | 2 |
a4z5yb | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Neighbors threaten to tow my legally parked car I live in a residential neighborhood with single-family homes in San Jose, California. Every house owns several cars so it’s normal for neighbors to park by the public curb. This morning, I came out to a note on my car saying to not park in front of their house on Mondays because they need to put their garbage bins in that spot for Tuesday garbage pick up. If I park there again, they will call a towing company to tow my car away. I am not blocking their driveway (there is enough space from where the driveway starts to my car) or anything. It is legal to park there and if I don’t park there, someone else will because my neighborhood is extremely packed. I still have the handwritten note. Is it legal for them to tow my car even though it’s legally parked? They constantly bother me and threaten to have my car towed. I’ve spoken to them countless times about the spot being legal for me (or anyone) to park but they refuse to listen. They’ve come to my front door several times to tell me or my parents to move a car that’s parked by their curb until we tell them it is not ours. I’ve tried my best to emphasize that the space is legal but they continue to still bother me. I’ve asked them to stop coming over to my front door several times, yet they still do. Is there anything I can do legally to stop them from harassing me about the parking space and is it legal for them to tow away a car that’s legally parked there? | ebk5syn | ebj600p | 1,544,533,107 | 1,544,489,068 | 4 | 2 | I am not a lawyer, but I am local to you. Alot of the advice seems off-base here. CA has lots of rules on towing. You can't private tow from a public street. The city has to come out and find a violation. (Even towing on private property is hard, you have to issue a warning. And post notices. And personally sign a document for every tow). So there shouldn't be an issue of you getting towed directly from the owner. You should probably ensure you are following any driveway offset/ hydrant rules, your registration is up to date, but... So basically, he can call the city and report you. If you are doing nothing wrong, there will be nothing for parking enforcement to do. Edit: Saw it could be private. First thing to find out. Doesn't really matter if there is not the proper tow notices posted. Note: Tow-company initiated tows are illegal in CA. A property owner cannot just give a company blanket authorization to tow bad cars as is done elsewhere. Except for certain emergency situations (blocking exits), all tows must be individually authorized by an authority that certifies the legal requirement is meet. This is a public official for public streets (or certain zones on private streets) or a representative of the private property owner in the case of private property. In your case, it is the police, parking enforcement, or your HOA. Unless your neighbor owns the street, it is not him... | Have you suggested an alternate place for them to put their trash and recycling? Since they have a driveway, they could put the bins at the end and only block themselves but still get them picked up. It's not your job, but if that works for both of you... | 1 | 44,039 | 2 |
emy81y | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | Winter storm coming in WI this weekend. My landlord emailed everyone saying nobody can park in the apartment parking lot because they need to plow. But the city declared a snow emergency so we legally can't park on the streets. The landlord threatened to tow anyone parked in the lot. Can my landlord legally tow people for parking in the parking lot this weekend if we legally cannot park on city streets (because of the snow emergency)? My unit has a one car garage but I have two vehicles registered with my lease. Emailing my landlord got me nowhere. She just said "IDK, I can't control the snow fall". | fds6j21 | fds5tam | 1,578,695,472 | 1,578,695,008 | 63 | 19 | The policies related to handling plowing would be in your lease. Ordinarily, the landlord is not obligated to find you “someplace else” to park while they plow. Normally the policy would shift lots around based on time of the day. | What does your lease say about access to parking? | 1 | 464 | 3.315789 |
ce6osm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | HOA Manager Trying to Tow my car for "leaking oil" after just getting it back from them towing it for "abandonment". I live in Arizona, Maricopa Cty So as the Title says theres a HOA board member that lives in my gated condo complex thats basically been trying her hardest to fuck me over. about a week and a half ago my car was Towed for being an abandoned vehicle in my parking lot. it wasnt abandonded obviously as i had recently purchased it and it got registered and all that. so after a while i got a notice on my car saying it was to be towed for not being a registered vehicle. i had forgotten to put my plate in the back window so i did and figured that would show its a licensed and registered vehicle and that would solve the issue. the cars battery was not so charged but it would start and i could drive with no problems. three days after the notice at about 12 at night i saw my car was gone as id been out all day with my girlfriend (who lives with me in the complex). I figured it had been towed so i called the police and it had indeed been towed, but i was prettt broke from rent and bills so i had to wait a week to get it out wich cost me 250 plus the battery was fucked at that point so i had to spend another 120 on a new battery. it was hot i dealt with the situation in like 110° weather for like 3 hours. so then i got it back home About a day later my girlfriends mom texts me saying the HOA are going to tow my vehicle for "leaking oil" in the parking lot and its fine, i ran outside as soon as i heard that checked underneath my car, moved it to another spot, anr then checked the spot i was in. not even an old oil stain was in the spot, nothing was there. so we sent a picture and they got it but still say its leaking and are trying to tow my car. I feel pretty targeted still as im one of maybe 2 blacks in the complex, ive been asked if i live here when im puttingg things into my garage, and who i am when i go to the pool its stressing me out. what can i do im not on the lease but the landlord is putting me on it soon. what should my next move be? | eu14g3o | eu1tlfy | 1,563,360,326 | 1,563,375,145 | 9 | 10 | I see how you could feel targeted and shame on them for that. Perhaps they are towing your car simply because you are not on a lease and always have your car there? Since they know the vehicle mentioned isn’t associated with anybody currently living there, perhaps they are towing it on that premise? I hear not too many black peeps in Arizona and that also seems just as likely that they could be targeting you based on that..similar to what happened all over America since forever. Definitely send a letter or email etc and bombard them with emails about it until they stop. Make sure it’s concise/professional letter or email and be very direct. Make sure they reimburse you for these tows. Perhaps the first one was a bit much and they are just taking it way too far now. Seems unreasonable. I sure hope you are compensated. | Is your car registered with the HOA for the unit that you are in? That is more likely what the registration refers to. Many communities have private roads (not public roads) and can enforce parking restrictions. | 0 | 14,819 | 1.111111 |
ce6osm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | HOA Manager Trying to Tow my car for "leaking oil" after just getting it back from them towing it for "abandonment". I live in Arizona, Maricopa Cty So as the Title says theres a HOA board member that lives in my gated condo complex thats basically been trying her hardest to fuck me over. about a week and a half ago my car was Towed for being an abandoned vehicle in my parking lot. it wasnt abandonded obviously as i had recently purchased it and it got registered and all that. so after a while i got a notice on my car saying it was to be towed for not being a registered vehicle. i had forgotten to put my plate in the back window so i did and figured that would show its a licensed and registered vehicle and that would solve the issue. the cars battery was not so charged but it would start and i could drive with no problems. three days after the notice at about 12 at night i saw my car was gone as id been out all day with my girlfriend (who lives with me in the complex). I figured it had been towed so i called the police and it had indeed been towed, but i was prettt broke from rent and bills so i had to wait a week to get it out wich cost me 250 plus the battery was fucked at that point so i had to spend another 120 on a new battery. it was hot i dealt with the situation in like 110° weather for like 3 hours. so then i got it back home About a day later my girlfriends mom texts me saying the HOA are going to tow my vehicle for "leaking oil" in the parking lot and its fine, i ran outside as soon as i heard that checked underneath my car, moved it to another spot, anr then checked the spot i was in. not even an old oil stain was in the spot, nothing was there. so we sent a picture and they got it but still say its leaking and are trying to tow my car. I feel pretty targeted still as im one of maybe 2 blacks in the complex, ive been asked if i live here when im puttingg things into my garage, and who i am when i go to the pool its stressing me out. what can i do im not on the lease but the landlord is putting me on it soon. what should my next move be? | eu1tlfy | eu1mw89 | 1,563,375,145 | 1,563,370,435 | 10 | 8 | Is your car registered with the HOA for the unit that you are in? That is more likely what the registration refers to. Many communities have private roads (not public roads) and can enforce parking restrictions. | Every HOA has regular public meetings. This is exactly the kind of issue that a resident (you) should bring up during those meetings. | 1 | 4,710 | 1.25 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6pujda | i6pr737 | 1,651,268,585 | 1,651,267,058 | 150 | 47 | Just get a written estimate for the repairs and submit it to the deputy. Give them a week or two for payment. If you aren't paid then escalate to the next level. | So long as he’s cooperative with you, it will be quicker to have him pay than to have him tried and ordered to pay restitution. Even if he’s uncooperative, it would likely still be quicker just to sue him in small claims court than go the route of a criminal complaint. | 1 | 1,527 | 3.191489 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6pwlta | i6pv3cj | 1,651,269,539 | 1,651,268,842 | 15 | 6 | I'd say go the cooperation route if possible. There's a possibility that if you choose prosecution, his buddies will informally retaliate with you, such as frequent and nasty traffic stops, etc... | It's always best to try and do it the friendly way first. The claim is that he will pay, so before you escalate things give him a chance to make it right. | 1 | 697 | 2.5 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6quklz | i6q9pvj | 1,651,285,807 | 1,651,275,732 | 13 | 11 | Not a lawyer. Owned a bar. Just get an estimate (go to a reputable place and don't worry about getting multiple estimates. He won't care if you don't bargain shop), add in any loss of wages/car rental/aggravation, and submit it so you can get paid. Ask for it all at once in two weeks (next payday). He can borrow it if he has to. Put this behind you. People who are saying that the cop will retaliate are looking at this all wrong. Your taking the cash is doing him a favor and he definitely knows it. So does the deputy. The department handled it on the up and up by referring it outside their department, so this officer will probably get disciplined if this goes to an official hearing. Plus he'll have to pay for the damage, obviously. So it's much, much x 1000 better for him if he just pays the damage. And better for you because you decide what the payment is, when you get it, and the whole thing is resolved a lot more quickly. Win-win. And of course we all hope this is a one-time incident and he takes the close call as a strong clue he needs to get his shit together. He actually might. Stranger things have happened. | >I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I'm pretty certain that individuals in the US don't get to file warrants or press charges in criminal cases. | 1 | 10,075 | 1.181818 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6pv3cj | i6quklz | 1,651,268,842 | 1,651,285,807 | 6 | 13 | It's always best to try and do it the friendly way first. The claim is that he will pay, so before you escalate things give him a chance to make it right. | Not a lawyer. Owned a bar. Just get an estimate (go to a reputable place and don't worry about getting multiple estimates. He won't care if you don't bargain shop), add in any loss of wages/car rental/aggravation, and submit it so you can get paid. Ask for it all at once in two weeks (next payday). He can borrow it if he has to. Put this behind you. People who are saying that the cop will retaliate are looking at this all wrong. Your taking the cash is doing him a favor and he definitely knows it. So does the deputy. The department handled it on the up and up by referring it outside their department, so this officer will probably get disciplined if this goes to an official hearing. Plus he'll have to pay for the damage, obviously. So it's much, much x 1000 better for him if he just pays the damage. And better for you because you decide what the payment is, when you get it, and the whole thing is resolved a lot more quickly. Win-win. And of course we all hope this is a one-time incident and he takes the close call as a strong clue he needs to get his shit together. He actually might. Stranger things have happened. | 0 | 16,965 | 2.166667 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6qinvm | i6quklz | 1,651,280,009 | 1,651,285,807 | 7 | 13 | I would recommending doing the report, court, and insurance route where it should be paid by his insurance. Time is very important and a paper trail is important in my opinion. | Not a lawyer. Owned a bar. Just get an estimate (go to a reputable place and don't worry about getting multiple estimates. He won't care if you don't bargain shop), add in any loss of wages/car rental/aggravation, and submit it so you can get paid. Ask for it all at once in two weeks (next payday). He can borrow it if he has to. Put this behind you. People who are saying that the cop will retaliate are looking at this all wrong. Your taking the cash is doing him a favor and he definitely knows it. So does the deputy. The department handled it on the up and up by referring it outside their department, so this officer will probably get disciplined if this goes to an official hearing. Plus he'll have to pay for the damage, obviously. So it's much, much x 1000 better for him if he just pays the damage. And better for you because you decide what the payment is, when you get it, and the whole thing is resolved a lot more quickly. Win-win. And of course we all hope this is a one-time incident and he takes the close call as a strong clue he needs to get his shit together. He actually might. Stranger things have happened. | 0 | 5,798 | 1.857143 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6quklz | i6qjbzx | 1,651,285,807 | 1,651,280,328 | 13 | 6 | Not a lawyer. Owned a bar. Just get an estimate (go to a reputable place and don't worry about getting multiple estimates. He won't care if you don't bargain shop), add in any loss of wages/car rental/aggravation, and submit it so you can get paid. Ask for it all at once in two weeks (next payday). He can borrow it if he has to. Put this behind you. People who are saying that the cop will retaliate are looking at this all wrong. Your taking the cash is doing him a favor and he definitely knows it. So does the deputy. The department handled it on the up and up by referring it outside their department, so this officer will probably get disciplined if this goes to an official hearing. Plus he'll have to pay for the damage, obviously. So it's much, much x 1000 better for him if he just pays the damage. And better for you because you decide what the payment is, when you get it, and the whole thing is resolved a lot more quickly. Win-win. And of course we all hope this is a one-time incident and he takes the close call as a strong clue he needs to get his shit together. He actually might. Stranger things have happened. | Report it to their office of professional standards/internal affairs. Make a police report of the incident. Claim it on your insurance. | 1 | 5,479 | 2.166667 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6pv3cj | i6q9pvj | 1,651,268,842 | 1,651,275,732 | 6 | 11 | It's always best to try and do it the friendly way first. The claim is that he will pay, so before you escalate things give him a chance to make it right. | >I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I'm pretty certain that individuals in the US don't get to file warrants or press charges in criminal cases. | 0 | 6,890 | 1.833333 |
uevric | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | An off duty police officer punched my mirror off leaving a bar. This is in the US. This happened a couple nights ago, but I left work to meet up with my girlfriend at a bar for karaoke. I get there right as they’re doing last call and stay for about 45 minutes and when I get out to my car my mirror had been hit and flayed out and the mirror is hanging off the holder by it’s cord, and I have a sizable dent on my drivers side door. I went back inside to ask if they have cameras to which the bar manager said they don’t but a neighboring store might. I get back out to the car and another bartender comes out to tell me she saw the man do it, he was cutoff from the bar and fed water to sober up and they called him an Uber. On the way to his Jeep which was parked right in front of mine he swung to wards my car and she wasn’t sure if he made contact or not. They ended up saying he flashed his police badge at the bar a couple times, remembered the name and looked it up officially in the credit card receipts to give it to me. I filed the police report that night with a cop that came out and upon receiving the name ended up not taking a written statement or anything, but the deputy showed up the next morning to take over the case and do further investigation after receiving the information and pictures I took at the scene and a few current videos. He did his own work and called me back this morning to tell me he talked with the man personally and he’s very remorseful and realizes the mistake he made, and I have a couple options moving forward. I can file a warrant for his arrest and he will be court ordered to pay for the damages, or I can handle it with him out of court. He said he knows the man wont question whatever he has to pay, and I made sure I have a year to file a warrant if it starts to drag along. I’m wondering at this point what I should do because it’s a hassle to reattach my mirror every time I close my door it falls back off, also the hassle of actually getting it fixed, and the dent is very noticeable, should I escalate it to a warrant or take it to a body shop and try and handle it individually? Tl:dr an off duty cop punched my mirror and kicked my car leaving a bar with no interaction with me. Should I escalate it to a warrant or try and get him to pay for it individually? | i6qinvm | i6pv3cj | 1,651,280,009 | 1,651,268,842 | 7 | 6 | I would recommending doing the report, court, and insurance route where it should be paid by his insurance. Time is very important and a paper trail is important in my opinion. | It's always best to try and do it the friendly way first. The claim is that he will pay, so before you escalate things give him a chance to make it right. | 1 | 11,167 | 1.166667 |
3nfa47 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (NJ) My idiot nephew "rolled coal" on a pedestrian who turned out to be an off duty police officer So for those who don't know what "rolling coal" is (because I didn't) it's when someone modifies the engine on their diesel vehicle so that it emits a cloud of black, sooty smoke out of the exhaust pipes, which they also modify and extend to be like chimneys. My nephew recently bought a diesel truck and had it modified it so it could "roll coal". He was stopped at a red light and tried to get the attention of a pedestrian. She ignored him so he "rolled coal" on her and covered her in a cloud of smoke before he drove away. He was pulled over a short distance away. The pedestrian was an off duty police officer. His truck was towed and impounded. My nephew is a complete dumbass and deserves what he gets. I’m posting here because neither I nor my wife nor his parents have ever heard of “rolling coal” before and we are just wondering what happens next and what penalty(ies) he is looking at? | cvnj2d7 | cvnj571 | 1,443,937,118 | 1,443,937,342 | 306 | 572 | So presumably this kid is cat-calling women on the street and modifying his car so it emits conspicuous pollution. This guy sounds awful. To answer the question at hand, it appears that it is illegal in various ways (both state and federal): http://www.autoblog.com/2015/05/13/rolling-coal-now-illegal-in-new-jersey/ | Wow, your nephew is an inconsiderste piece of shit. It will probably be a fix it ticket for taking the items off the car that do that, plus whatever fines for a likely misdemeanor charge that he gets for pulling shit like that. I have no clue but maybe something like disturning the peace or something. I know young men aren't known for making the best decisions, but his parents, even though he's reached his majority, need to come down *HARD* on him lest he continue to be a self-absorbed person who does inconsiderate things to strangers just from some twisted pleasure of seeing them in discomfort. That's really fucked up. | 0 | 224 | 1.869281 |
3nfa47 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (NJ) My idiot nephew "rolled coal" on a pedestrian who turned out to be an off duty police officer So for those who don't know what "rolling coal" is (because I didn't) it's when someone modifies the engine on their diesel vehicle so that it emits a cloud of black, sooty smoke out of the exhaust pipes, which they also modify and extend to be like chimneys. My nephew recently bought a diesel truck and had it modified it so it could "roll coal". He was stopped at a red light and tried to get the attention of a pedestrian. She ignored him so he "rolled coal" on her and covered her in a cloud of smoke before he drove away. He was pulled over a short distance away. The pedestrian was an off duty police officer. His truck was towed and impounded. My nephew is a complete dumbass and deserves what he gets. I’m posting here because neither I nor my wife nor his parents have ever heard of “rolling coal” before and we are just wondering what happens next and what penalty(ies) he is looking at? | cvnj571 | cvnisd6 | 1,443,937,342 | 1,443,936,325 | 572 | 192 | Wow, your nephew is an inconsiderste piece of shit. It will probably be a fix it ticket for taking the items off the car that do that, plus whatever fines for a likely misdemeanor charge that he gets for pulling shit like that. I have no clue but maybe something like disturning the peace or something. I know young men aren't known for making the best decisions, but his parents, even though he's reached his majority, need to come down *HARD* on him lest he continue to be a self-absorbed person who does inconsiderate things to strangers just from some twisted pleasure of seeing them in discomfort. That's really fucked up. | With a little luck his truck will be crushed into a cube. | 1 | 1,017 | 2.979167 |
3nfa47 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (NJ) My idiot nephew "rolled coal" on a pedestrian who turned out to be an off duty police officer So for those who don't know what "rolling coal" is (because I didn't) it's when someone modifies the engine on their diesel vehicle so that it emits a cloud of black, sooty smoke out of the exhaust pipes, which they also modify and extend to be like chimneys. My nephew recently bought a diesel truck and had it modified it so it could "roll coal". He was stopped at a red light and tried to get the attention of a pedestrian. She ignored him so he "rolled coal" on her and covered her in a cloud of smoke before he drove away. He was pulled over a short distance away. The pedestrian was an off duty police officer. His truck was towed and impounded. My nephew is a complete dumbass and deserves what he gets. I’m posting here because neither I nor my wife nor his parents have ever heard of “rolling coal” before and we are just wondering what happens next and what penalty(ies) he is looking at? | cvnj1ev | cvnj571 | 1,443,937,038 | 1,443,937,342 | 79 | 572 | Basically, rolling coal is this, except the woman was a cop. | Wow, your nephew is an inconsiderste piece of shit. It will probably be a fix it ticket for taking the items off the car that do that, plus whatever fines for a likely misdemeanor charge that he gets for pulling shit like that. I have no clue but maybe something like disturning the peace or something. I know young men aren't known for making the best decisions, but his parents, even though he's reached his majority, need to come down *HARD* on him lest he continue to be a self-absorbed person who does inconsiderate things to strangers just from some twisted pleasure of seeing them in discomfort. That's really fucked up. | 0 | 304 | 7.240506 |
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