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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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People are saying to get a lawyer, but he hasn't been accused of a crime by police or prosecutors, but instead by some nutjob. Is it really in his interest to spend money on a lawyer *now* while it's just puffery from some crackpot? I'd agree, don't talk to the police, it's not in OP's interest to deal with them because police aren't his friends. But right now wouldn't getting into criminal lawyer territory would be jumping the gun a bit, since he's not even a person of interest? OP it would still probably be in your best interest to get a lawyer to help you navigate a restraining order though, this guy is unhinged as fuck. edit: if this post seems contradictory, no lawyer is an expert in everything so the "get a restraining order" lawyer would be a different person than a "protect from murder charges" lawyer.
One option is for your former co-worker to talk to the police. She is responsible to do so because, if true, her husband is already having breaks from reality and could harm you or someone else. Is it possible that the husband is not convincing himself that you murdered his roommate but instead trying to cause you as much harm as possible without getting physical? Your former coworker is not simply ignoring your needs and safety here but her own. Her parents may live 300 miles away, but her husband knows the way. It's not like she is safe there if her husband is having psychotic breaks.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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One option is for your former co-worker to talk to the police. She is responsible to do so because, if true, her husband is already having breaks from reality and could harm you or someone else. Is it possible that the husband is not convincing himself that you murdered his roommate but instead trying to cause you as much harm as possible without getting physical? Your former coworker is not simply ignoring your needs and safety here but her own. Her parents may live 300 miles away, but her husband knows the way. It's not like she is safe there if her husband is having psychotic breaks.
Get a criminal defense lawyer lined up. If the police want to talk, only do so through your lawyer. Trying to defend yourself by talking to police could make things worse. Good luck.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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One option is for your former co-worker to talk to the police. She is responsible to do so because, if true, her husband is already having breaks from reality and could harm you or someone else. Is it possible that the husband is not convincing himself that you murdered his roommate but instead trying to cause you as much harm as possible without getting physical? Your former coworker is not simply ignoring your needs and safety here but her own. Her parents may live 300 miles away, but her husband knows the way. It's not like she is safe there if her husband is having psychotic breaks.
If he has accused you of sexually assaulting his wife. You could file for an order of protection against them for harassment and well being. You don't need to get a lawyer at this time as their really isn't any legal matter currently since she stood her ground and told the police the truth.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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People are saying to get a lawyer, but he hasn't been accused of a crime by police or prosecutors, but instead by some nutjob. Is it really in his interest to spend money on a lawyer *now* while it's just puffery from some crackpot? I'd agree, don't talk to the police, it's not in OP's interest to deal with them because police aren't his friends. But right now wouldn't getting into criminal lawyer territory would be jumping the gun a bit, since he's not even a person of interest? OP it would still probably be in your best interest to get a lawyer to help you navigate a restraining order though, this guy is unhinged as fuck. edit: if this post seems contradictory, no lawyer is an expert in everything so the "get a restraining order" lawyer would be a different person than a "protect from murder charges" lawyer.
Get a criminal defense lawyer lined up. If the police want to talk, only do so through your lawyer. Trying to defend yourself by talking to police could make things worse. Good luck.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Get a criminal defense lawyer lined up. If the police want to talk, only do so through your lawyer. Trying to defend yourself by talking to police could make things worse. Good luck.
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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If he has accused you of sexually assaulting his wife. You could file for an order of protection against them for harassment and well being. You don't need to get a lawyer at this time as their really isn't any legal matter currently since she stood her ground and told the police the truth.
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I'd try to 'disappear' from the internet. Make any social media accounts private. Unless you think he may have started following you on your accounts in which case I would delete them. See if your address comes up anywhere and if so try to get it changed...maybe get a Post Office Box instead? Maybe change your phone number. Just try to digitally disappear.
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
Lawyer here, though I don't practice in California so I'm really not more useful than anyone else. What strikes me as most concerning is the dead roommate. It could be nothing, or it could be an indication of how violent the husband is, or opens up the opportunity for the police to make some mistakes and start looking at OP. OP if you have evidence you were somewhere else then I suggest you preserve that evidence. Check with a lawyer first but it may also be wise for the wife to schedule a meeting to speak to the police, especially after the rogue phonecall. If receptive they might then speak to husband to remind him to chill out, which can be effective. OP there's enough going on here where perhaps you and your coworker should get some legal advice ASAP. I suspect an experienced family law lawyer can explain your options with respect to a few of the issues that arise. Good luck my dude.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
If he has accused you of sexually assaulting his wife. You could file for an order of protection against them for harassment and well being. You don't need to get a lawyer at this time as their really isn't any legal matter currently since she stood her ground and told the police the truth.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
I'd try to 'disappear' from the internet. Make any social media accounts private. Unless you think he may have started following you on your accounts in which case I would delete them. See if your address comes up anywhere and if so try to get it changed...maybe get a Post Office Box instead? Maybe change your phone number. Just try to digitally disappear.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
Umm anyone else wonder if the husband actually murdered the roommate....?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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If he has accused you of sexually assaulting his wife. You could file for an order of protection against them for harassment and well being. You don't need to get a lawyer at this time as their really isn't any legal matter currently since she stood her ground and told the police the truth.
Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I'd try to 'disappear' from the internet. Make any social media accounts private. Unless you think he may have started following you on your accounts in which case I would delete them. See if your address comes up anywhere and if so try to get it changed...maybe get a Post Office Box instead? Maybe change your phone number. Just try to digitally disappear.
Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
Therapist/social worker/crisis worker here, You should be concerned. Please report what has happened to the authorities. Try for a restraining order, but understand it won't stop him. You cannot reason with mental illness. Please find your local Crisis mental health hot line and give them the same information. Ask them to please evaluate him, you are concerned for your safety (as you should be). There is a good chance he will show up at your home, at your work, etc as you have become his #1 target. Please consider cameras at your doors. There are many good options. I have been through this as a professional and was stalked and thankfully was able to defend myself. Even with police protection, a restraining order, and knowing I was being stalked, the stalker was able to get to my front door. Be safe
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
If he has accused you of sexually assaulting his wife. You could file for an order of protection against them for harassment and well being. You don't need to get a lawyer at this time as their really isn't any legal matter currently since she stood her ground and told the police the truth.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
I'd try to 'disappear' from the internet. Make any social media accounts private. Unless you think he may have started following you on your accounts in which case I would delete them. See if your address comes up anywhere and if so try to get it changed...maybe get a Post Office Box instead? Maybe change your phone number. Just try to digitally disappear.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Reinforce your home. Personally I recommend replacing several of the screws in entry doors with much longer screws as a basic step for everyone, but especially anyone with concerns like yours. Make sure all windows and doors are locked when your home and away. Security cameras or system is a good idea.
I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I'd try to 'disappear' from the internet. Make any social media accounts private. Unless you think he may have started following you on your accounts in which case I would delete them. See if your address comes up anywhere and if so try to get it changed...maybe get a Post Office Box instead? Maybe change your phone number. Just try to digitally disappear.
Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
Was it a suicide? Has it been confirmed? I don't mean to speculate, but the timing of it all is suspicious. If my suspicions are correct then he is on a whole other level of unstable. Things to do: Start keeping a record of every interaction you have/have had with the ex-husband. Do this also for interactions with your friend. Pen to paper, or assuming he garnered your cell # from his ex-wife's phone, screenshot all messages and record all calls. Keep a record of where YOU are and have been. He's making serious allegations and you want to be able to defend yourself against them. Set up security cameras outside your house. Don't talk to the police. Lawyers usually offer free consultations. You should sit down with one and they'll often give you good advice on how to proceed free of charge. I hope his senses kick in and nothing escalates. Take care.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
Okay one thing. Why in the hell would she go back to "help her husband clean up" after the suicide? That strikes me as very odd. Why the hell would she do that when clearly he is unstable and going back would only make problems worse?
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Makes me wonder if he murdered the guy so he frame you for it. He seems out of touch with reality already.
A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
Unless the "soon to be ex" is or has contacted you, I suggest not interjecting yourself any further than the "wife" has done already. There is no telling what has happened leading up to her moving to your apt for the short time it was. It is obvious at least from you post here, the man has been broken and I am sure there is a hell lot more that is going on. There is no need to aggravated it any further. I would also step away from the "wife". That is just inviting unnecessary aggravation and drama. Not a lawyer, but worked in Law Enforcement in a local Sheriff's Office.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
A good start to covering your bases would be getting a copy of any report or transcript that his call generated, because it includes his spouse refuting his claims. You may need your coworker to request it if it never escalated from there... I'm sure there's a lawyer somewhere in here with more knowledge of the process.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
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1: Get a lawyer. Or talk to one. Do not listen to anyone who advises against this. 2: Say nothing to the police or him (unless you get a lawyer that says otherwise). It only increases the risk of saying something you shouldn't. Of course you're not guilty but maybe you say something to the cops that makes them think so. Then you have the headache of legal fees, bail if you're charged, the headache of all of the BS, etc. Also if the cops aren't as believing as you want then to be you need a lawyer there to talk to them asap before they arrest you.
I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
gu7uhwc
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I think a defamation lawsuit will do the job, get alawyer and ask for your options.
Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
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After offering a coworker a room to rent while she goes through a divorce, her ex-husband has not only called the police to try to report that I raped her, but has also started telling people he thinks I committed murder This all takes place in California A friend of mine that I met through work is getting divorced. She doesn’t know anyone in the area so I offered her a room to stay in temporarily until she can get back on her feet. Two days after she told her husband that she was leaving him and moving out, he got into her phone and started reading our text messages. He has apparently gone off the deep end. Mind you, her and I have never talked or texted about anything sexual, never even discussed being in a relationship, Nothing of that sort. All personal conversations we have had are related to her being unhappy in her relationship and her wanting to divorce her husband. The very next day after he got into her phone, he called the police and told them that, as her boss, I groomed her, and then I sexually assaulted her (I’m not her boss and her and I have never done anything remotely personal or sexual). He handed her the phone, and told her to tell the police what he just said is true. She asked him to leave the room, and told the police that they were in the middle of getting a divorce, and he is going crazy, and that it absolutely never happened. The next day she packed up a bunch of her stuff and left. Drove three hours to where her parents live. Quit her job. All of that. In a weird twist of fate, the next day the roommate that lived with them for the last two years, committed suicide in a very gruesome way. She decided to go back to the house, to help her soon to be ex-husband deal with cleaning up the house and getting it ready to sell after that happen. During this time, her soon to be ex-husband convinced himself that the roommate did not really commit suicide, but that I went over to the house and killed the roommate. I am worried that this guy is becoming detached from reality and that he’s going to try something serious. But, because the stories have only been told to me by someone else and he has never directly threatened me, or tried to come after me, I don’t really know what my options are. Can I call the police and get a restraining order based on word-of-mouth? What exactly should I legally do in this situation? This all happened in a different county than the county I live in, by the way
gu804v1
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A lawyer isn't going to help if this psycho shows up at your house. Protect yourself first and foremost.
Consider thoroughly the possibility that some parts of this man’s story (or many parts) are not true
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My piano was stolen by the bank when they foreclosed on my aunt‘s house This happened about two years ago so I doubt there’s really anything I can do about it but I thought it was worth asking. First off this all happened in New Jersey. I was living in a small apartment with no place to keep my piano, so I was keeping it at my aunt’s house. Unfortunately she fell on hard times and the house was foreclosed on and taken by the bank. I was unable to retrieve the piano or find another place to store it and when the bank took the house, they also took the piano, which was solely my property and not the property of anyone who owed the bank anything. Am I wrong to think that they should have, at the very least, paid me for the value of the piano? It was nice wooden upright piano I received as a gift and had no intention of giving it to the predatory scum who put my aunt out of her home. Would love to know what my options were then, and what they might be now if there even are any at this point.
hr33cgp
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I understand your frustration, but nothing was stolen here. The person you trusted to store this item abandoned it. I’m sure she had bigger worries than your piano at the time. The bank didn’t do anything wrong when it comes to your piano. If it was left in the house when they took possession, they had every right to dispose of it.
No, at best you would have had an opportunity to retrieve it before the foreclosure. The bank doesn't know you owned the piano, and they aren't require to store it for you.
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(GA) Neighbor keeps throwing dog shit in my trashcan (Not joking) Throwaway because my regular reddit name is very tied to me and everyone on the planet knows it! I live in Fulton County Georgia and I live in a nice neighborhood with an HOA. I've posted on the message board a few times about this and I've gotten zero response from anyone. On trash day, once a week, we bring our trash cans out of our garage and leave them on the street. One of our neighbors keep throwing LARGE BAGS of dog shit in our trashcan AFTER THE TRASH PEOPLE COME!!! Firstly - what the hell kind of people do this? Really. We know very few of our neighbors and we get along well with almost everyone. Secondly, we both work so we can't stake out the garbage cans or bring them back inside fast enough for this to not be a problem. I guess my questions are these: Legally, am I allowed to set up a hidden camera to find out who is doing this without it violating some sort of law? And if I DO find out who it is, is there anything I can do legally about this? It's been every week for over a month and I am at my wit's end! I really want you to imagine how incredibly awful my trashcan smells after dog shit has been sitting inside of a closed container in the hot Georgia sun for HOURS. The toxicity of the smell should be illegal on its own. PLEASE HELP! Any advice would be awesome.
da4klhb
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You're certainly within your rights to install a camera and record the street where you can is located. Have you considered making a sign that says "Please don't put dogshit in my trashcan." and placing that on the lid of the can?
I like the idea of setting up a camera to find out which of your neighbors is doing this. Then take the bag of shit over to their house with a note saying that you think someone mistakenly put this bag in your trash can, and you wanted to be a good neighbor and return it. :-) But don't set it on fire and knock on their door, that would be bad. :-)
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(GA) Neighbor keeps throwing dog shit in my trashcan (Not joking) Throwaway because my regular reddit name is very tied to me and everyone on the planet knows it! I live in Fulton County Georgia and I live in a nice neighborhood with an HOA. I've posted on the message board a few times about this and I've gotten zero response from anyone. On trash day, once a week, we bring our trash cans out of our garage and leave them on the street. One of our neighbors keep throwing LARGE BAGS of dog shit in our trashcan AFTER THE TRASH PEOPLE COME!!! Firstly - what the hell kind of people do this? Really. We know very few of our neighbors and we get along well with almost everyone. Secondly, we both work so we can't stake out the garbage cans or bring them back inside fast enough for this to not be a problem. I guess my questions are these: Legally, am I allowed to set up a hidden camera to find out who is doing this without it violating some sort of law? And if I DO find out who it is, is there anything I can do legally about this? It's been every week for over a month and I am at my wit's end! I really want you to imagine how incredibly awful my trashcan smells after dog shit has been sitting inside of a closed container in the hot Georgia sun for HOURS. The toxicity of the smell should be illegal on its own. PLEASE HELP! Any advice would be awesome.
da4risx
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I'd do a stakeout. Camera or in person. Figure out who it is. Your trashcan is easily accessible, so I'll bet they aren't that far away. Can you narrow down the homes with numerous dogs? Once you figure out who it is, return the dogshit along with a politely worded letter letting them know that the next instance of them putting shit in your trashcan, which is leased to you, will be construed as criminal trespass and you will file a police report and press charges if necessary. I'd also let your neighbors know to watch out, as they may start using someone else's can. Source: GA Code, Criminal Trespass
A large bag, once a week? How many dogs do they have over there?
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5dhiae
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(GA) Neighbor keeps throwing dog shit in my trashcan (Not joking) Throwaway because my regular reddit name is very tied to me and everyone on the planet knows it! I live in Fulton County Georgia and I live in a nice neighborhood with an HOA. I've posted on the message board a few times about this and I've gotten zero response from anyone. On trash day, once a week, we bring our trash cans out of our garage and leave them on the street. One of our neighbors keep throwing LARGE BAGS of dog shit in our trashcan AFTER THE TRASH PEOPLE COME!!! Firstly - what the hell kind of people do this? Really. We know very few of our neighbors and we get along well with almost everyone. Secondly, we both work so we can't stake out the garbage cans or bring them back inside fast enough for this to not be a problem. I guess my questions are these: Legally, am I allowed to set up a hidden camera to find out who is doing this without it violating some sort of law? And if I DO find out who it is, is there anything I can do legally about this? It's been every week for over a month and I am at my wit's end! I really want you to imagine how incredibly awful my trashcan smells after dog shit has been sitting inside of a closed container in the hot Georgia sun for HOURS. The toxicity of the smell should be illegal on its own. PLEASE HELP! Any advice would be awesome.
da4zef4
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Ask a friendly neighbor, one that leaves after the garbage men, to bring in your cans for you. Better yet, ask a nosy neighbor to keep an eye out for the culprit.
Are your cans left by the road after the trash comes?
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5dhiae
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(GA) Neighbor keeps throwing dog shit in my trashcan (Not joking) Throwaway because my regular reddit name is very tied to me and everyone on the planet knows it! I live in Fulton County Georgia and I live in a nice neighborhood with an HOA. I've posted on the message board a few times about this and I've gotten zero response from anyone. On trash day, once a week, we bring our trash cans out of our garage and leave them on the street. One of our neighbors keep throwing LARGE BAGS of dog shit in our trashcan AFTER THE TRASH PEOPLE COME!!! Firstly - what the hell kind of people do this? Really. We know very few of our neighbors and we get along well with almost everyone. Secondly, we both work so we can't stake out the garbage cans or bring them back inside fast enough for this to not be a problem. I guess my questions are these: Legally, am I allowed to set up a hidden camera to find out who is doing this without it violating some sort of law? And if I DO find out who it is, is there anything I can do legally about this? It's been every week for over a month and I am at my wit's end! I really want you to imagine how incredibly awful my trashcan smells after dog shit has been sitting inside of a closed container in the hot Georgia sun for HOURS. The toxicity of the smell should be illegal on its own. PLEASE HELP! Any advice would be awesome.
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>am I allowed to set up a hidden camera to find out who is doing this without it violating some sort of law? Security cameras are legal in GA, unless your HOA has a specific rule about them being mounted outside of the house. Nothing from stopping you from mounting inside and pointing out a window if that is an issue. This also a theft of services (trash service YOU pay for) and/or illegal dumping.
Are your cans left by the road after the trash comes?
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I need to catch my MIL stealing from me. Is it illegal? I’m in an intense situation. To start, I live in Oregon. My husband passed away a week and a half ago. His mother is actively trying to make my life worse. She has been harassing me, showing up to my home, calling me, and trying to emotionally abuse me. I tried to be nice to her after he passed. I tried to involve her, but she has pushed me. She has made comments about my mental health, she has bullied me publicly, and keeps telling me that I killed him (I took him off life support). I’m very overwhelmed. My husband’s sister is currently staying with me, a way for her to escape her mother. My SIL has been getting texts from my MIL that are worrying me. My MIL is demanding to know when his ashes arrive so she can get them while I’m out of the house. I saw the text this morning, my SIL ran to me crying. My MIL doesn’t want me to have his remains, she thinks she deserves them since I was married to him for less than a year. I don’t want my husband’s abuser to have his remains. My husband had security cameras set up when he moved in. Front door, back yard, living room. I’m able to lock anything valuable upstairs to where she would quite literally have to use a tool to break a door down. Is it illegal if I leave fake ashes or a fake urn in my home to catch her breaking in? Is it something I’m able to use as proof for a restraining order? Please refrain from any “grieving widow” comments, I’m fully aware I’m not fully mentally stable. I have a lawyer, I have legal rights to the remains. I don’t have to share with her if I do not want to. I’m worried if I don’t preemptively do this, she will actually break into my house while I’m gone. She’s threatened to do it.
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> My MIL is demanding to know when his ashes arrive so she can get them while I’m out of the house. You probably just need to change your locks, like yesterday. > Is it illegal if I leave fake ashes or a fake urn in my home to catch her breaking in? Is it something I’m able to use as proof for a restraining order? Yes, you can put hidden cameras in your house (not in bathrooms) and record anyone else doing something they should not be doing.
> I have a lawyer ~~Ma'am, this is a Wendy's.~~ I suppose this is a silly question to ask at $300 / hour. > Is it illegal if I leave fake ashes or a fake urn in my home to catch her breaking in? No. Provided you're not setting up an actual booby trap or something that would be dangerous, this is legal. > Is it something I’m able to use as proof for a restraining order? Procedures for getting Restraining Orders and Protective Orders vary from court to court in Oregon, and you should check with your local court or (better yet) **ask your attorney** to help you with this. Certainly evidence of breaking and entering or burglary will be probative, especially if you turn over a copy of the video surveillance when you file any police reports. As a final thought, until the dispute with your MIL blows over, it would be wise to keep your husband's remains somewhere secret and secure, possibly off premises. Sorry for your loss.
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I need to catch my MIL stealing from me. Is it illegal? I’m in an intense situation. To start, I live in Oregon. My husband passed away a week and a half ago. His mother is actively trying to make my life worse. She has been harassing me, showing up to my home, calling me, and trying to emotionally abuse me. I tried to be nice to her after he passed. I tried to involve her, but she has pushed me. She has made comments about my mental health, she has bullied me publicly, and keeps telling me that I killed him (I took him off life support). I’m very overwhelmed. My husband’s sister is currently staying with me, a way for her to escape her mother. My SIL has been getting texts from my MIL that are worrying me. My MIL is demanding to know when his ashes arrive so she can get them while I’m out of the house. I saw the text this morning, my SIL ran to me crying. My MIL doesn’t want me to have his remains, she thinks she deserves them since I was married to him for less than a year. I don’t want my husband’s abuser to have his remains. My husband had security cameras set up when he moved in. Front door, back yard, living room. I’m able to lock anything valuable upstairs to where she would quite literally have to use a tool to break a door down. Is it illegal if I leave fake ashes or a fake urn in my home to catch her breaking in? Is it something I’m able to use as proof for a restraining order? Please refrain from any “grieving widow” comments, I’m fully aware I’m not fully mentally stable. I have a lawyer, I have legal rights to the remains. I don’t have to share with her if I do not want to. I’m worried if I don’t preemptively do this, she will actually break into my house while I’m gone. She’s threatened to do it.
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Contact the Cremation office and if they are not already shipped , change them to pick up or have them shipped to a secure receiving facility. You could look into this package locations. You can also ask your packages to be held by the postal service if that's the route they use to ship.
> My MIL is demanding to know when his ashes arrive so she can get them while I’m out of the house. You probably just need to change your locks, like yesterday. > Is it illegal if I leave fake ashes or a fake urn in my home to catch her breaking in? Is it something I’m able to use as proof for a restraining order? Yes, you can put hidden cameras in your house (not in bathrooms) and record anyone else doing something they should not be doing.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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I am a lawyer but not your lawyer. There are lawyers who specialize in these kinds of family arrangements where they draft the contracts and arrange for the lesbian couple to adopt the child and for you to surrender your parental rights. Seek out one of those for your protection.
There is nothing YOU can make to contract away your obligation to child support They and you need to go through a doctor and attorney Any penis/ vagina interaction can result in child support
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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I am a lawyer but not your lawyer. There are lawyers who specialize in these kinds of family arrangements where they draft the contracts and arrange for the lesbian couple to adopt the child and for you to surrender your parental rights. Seek out one of those for your protection.
Don't do this without talking to a lawyer and/or a sperm bank first. You have no legal protections against either member of the couple or the state coming after you for child support if you privately help them conceive. A contract won't stand up in court in most states. You can't just sign away your rights. You could, if paternity were established, aim for visitation and custody under some circumstances. It's an incredibly risky legal situation for you. If you want to help them, do this right by going through a sperm bank as a known donor to them. Strong legal protections and precedents exist for donors. A good clinic will know the requirements for your state and make sure that everything is in order. A consultation with a lawyer familiar with donor issues like yours would be an asset here. You can contact your state bar association for a referral, and it should be inexpensive.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
iv3pzto
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I am a lawyer but not your lawyer. There are lawyers who specialize in these kinds of family arrangements where they draft the contracts and arrange for the lesbian couple to adopt the child and for you to surrender your parental rights. Seek out one of those for your protection.
I am not a lawyer, but this is a terrible idea. If they want a sperm donor, they should go to a sperm bank.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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The current laws are a changing, complicated mess. Rulings vary from place to place, so you will absolutely need a local lawyer to help you with the process. In some places, you will be considered the father *unless* the donation is done through a registered fertility clinic. (If you're going this route, many clinics have their own lawyers who can handle the paperwork.) Are your friends married? That can be relevant. Eg in Kansas, the sperm donor deemed the natural father of a resulting child unless the mother is married to someone else and this cannot be contracted away. Some other states require the non-biological parent to formally adopt the baby before terminating the sperm donor's child support obligations. This isn't something you can DIY, you'll want professional help. Where you live will determine whether that help needs to be a lawyer or a doctor or both.
There is nothing YOU can make to contract away your obligation to child support They and you need to go through a doctor and attorney Any penis/ vagina interaction can result in child support
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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The current laws are a changing, complicated mess. Rulings vary from place to place, so you will absolutely need a local lawyer to help you with the process. In some places, you will be considered the father *unless* the donation is done through a registered fertility clinic. (If you're going this route, many clinics have their own lawyers who can handle the paperwork.) Are your friends married? That can be relevant. Eg in Kansas, the sperm donor deemed the natural father of a resulting child unless the mother is married to someone else and this cannot be contracted away. Some other states require the non-biological parent to formally adopt the baby before terminating the sperm donor's child support obligations. This isn't something you can DIY, you'll want professional help. Where you live will determine whether that help needs to be a lawyer or a doctor or both.
Don't do this without talking to a lawyer and/or a sperm bank first. You have no legal protections against either member of the couple or the state coming after you for child support if you privately help them conceive. A contract won't stand up in court in most states. You can't just sign away your rights. You could, if paternity were established, aim for visitation and custody under some circumstances. It's an incredibly risky legal situation for you. If you want to help them, do this right by going through a sperm bank as a known donor to them. Strong legal protections and precedents exist for donors. A good clinic will know the requirements for your state and make sure that everything is in order. A consultation with a lawyer familiar with donor issues like yours would be an asset here. You can contact your state bar association for a referral, and it should be inexpensive.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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I am not a lawyer, but this is a terrible idea. If they want a sperm donor, they should go to a sperm bank.
The current laws are a changing, complicated mess. Rulings vary from place to place, so you will absolutely need a local lawyer to help you with the process. In some places, you will be considered the father *unless* the donation is done through a registered fertility clinic. (If you're going this route, many clinics have their own lawyers who can handle the paperwork.) Are your friends married? That can be relevant. Eg in Kansas, the sperm donor deemed the natural father of a resulting child unless the mother is married to someone else and this cannot be contracted away. Some other states require the non-biological parent to formally adopt the baby before terminating the sperm donor's child support obligations. This isn't something you can DIY, you'll want professional help. Where you live will determine whether that help needs to be a lawyer or a doctor or both.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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You squirt in a cup, hand it to a doctor, and sign the doctors paper. Any other method is wrong.
The current laws are a changing, complicated mess. Rulings vary from place to place, so you will absolutely need a local lawyer to help you with the process. In some places, you will be considered the father *unless* the donation is done through a registered fertility clinic. (If you're going this route, many clinics have their own lawyers who can handle the paperwork.) Are your friends married? That can be relevant. Eg in Kansas, the sperm donor deemed the natural father of a resulting child unless the mother is married to someone else and this cannot be contracted away. Some other states require the non-biological parent to formally adopt the baby before terminating the sperm donor's child support obligations. This isn't something you can DIY, you'll want professional help. Where you live will determine whether that help needs to be a lawyer or a doctor or both.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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Don't do this without talking to a lawyer and/or a sperm bank first. You have no legal protections against either member of the couple or the state coming after you for child support if you privately help them conceive. A contract won't stand up in court in most states. You can't just sign away your rights. You could, if paternity were established, aim for visitation and custody under some circumstances. It's an incredibly risky legal situation for you. If you want to help them, do this right by going through a sperm bank as a known donor to them. Strong legal protections and precedents exist for donors. A good clinic will know the requirements for your state and make sure that everything is in order. A consultation with a lawyer familiar with donor issues like yours would be an asset here. You can contact your state bar association for a referral, and it should be inexpensive.
I am not a lawyer, but this is a terrible idea. If they want a sperm donor, they should go to a sperm bank.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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I am not a lawyer, but this is a terrible idea. If they want a sperm donor, they should go to a sperm bank.
It's going to be based on state law. The only safe way is to go the legitimate medical route with a licensed physician. If they want to save a couple dollars by doing this at home be prepared to pay child support.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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It's going to be based on state law. The only safe way is to go the legitimate medical route with a licensed physician. If they want to save a couple dollars by doing this at home be prepared to pay child support.
You squirt in a cup, hand it to a doctor, and sign the doctors paper. Any other method is wrong.
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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I am not a lawyer, but this is a terrible idea. If they want a sperm donor, they should go to a sperm bank.
This was our donors concern. Family law is by state. We originally started trying in AZ but ended up moving to and getting pregnant and delivering in Colorado. We consulted with a lawyer in both states before trying. We paid for everything to our donors satisfaction and all total I think we invested about $2000 in lawyer fees and processes. New Mexico will be its own deal. It has been a wonderful rewarding experience for all of us. Our son is amazing and my wife’s and my whole world. And he just loves when his “Unky” comes around to play with him and he just adores his “nephew” with any involvement in any parenting matters or responsibilities and he’s 100% protected. So is my wife since she is the non-carrying mom. It’s absolutely worth it if you want to do this. And the initial consultation with a lawyer will cost you or the couple a few hundred bucks for better information than Reddit can provide you. Then you’ll know what you’re in for and wether it’s worth it to you. Good luck! Edit: grammar
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If I help a lesbian couple have a child, is there any kind of contract that could prevent them from trying to get child support or deny all visitation? I have friends that want to have a baby and they approached ne about it. My father's first reaction was "absolutely no" because he's worried they might come after me for child support somewhere down the line. He had to pay child support to two separate women and it was really hard on him so I don't know if he's just biased but he said that no matter what legal documentation or contracts we come up with that they could still go to court and win. Is that true? I really like my friends and don't know if I'll ever have children of my own so it was something I was seriously debating. They said the child could know who I am and that I could see them whenever (within reason) but I would never be their parent. I'm good with all of that, but if there's even a chance that they could completely deny all visitation and sue me for child support I'm definitely out. They are good friends that I trust, but stuff happens and people change. If I can't legally protect myself in this situation I'm gonna have to decline.
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You squirt in a cup, hand it to a doctor, and sign the doctors paper. Any other method is wrong.
This was our donors concern. Family law is by state. We originally started trying in AZ but ended up moving to and getting pregnant and delivering in Colorado. We consulted with a lawyer in both states before trying. We paid for everything to our donors satisfaction and all total I think we invested about $2000 in lawyer fees and processes. New Mexico will be its own deal. It has been a wonderful rewarding experience for all of us. Our son is amazing and my wife’s and my whole world. And he just loves when his “Unky” comes around to play with him and he just adores his “nephew” with any involvement in any parenting matters or responsibilities and he’s 100% protected. So is my wife since she is the non-carrying mom. It’s absolutely worth it if you want to do this. And the initial consultation with a lawyer will cost you or the couple a few hundred bucks for better information than Reddit can provide you. Then you’ll know what you’re in for and wether it’s worth it to you. Good luck! Edit: grammar
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[MA] I have rented a house from my mother for 25 years. When I moved in, she had the house hooked up to the town sewer system, which sends a quarterly bill. I have never received such a bill, and recently found out that neither has she. What is my liability when I inherit the house? To elaborate, the house had a small, definitely not up to code "septic system" (really more of a cesspool) and when I moved in my mother had a professional hook the house up to the town sewer. The town sends a quarterly sewer bill based on water usage, and all these years I had assumed the bill was sent to her at her address as she is the owner on the deed. Recently she was hospitalized in serious condition. I have POA and took over paying her bills. I found out that she has never received a sewer bill for the house I live at, just her own house. All this time I assumed the bill was being sent to her, and she assumed it was being sent to me and I was paying it! It just never came up in conversation. She is very elderly and in poor health so unfortunately I may inherit this house sooner than later. What is my liability for this sewer tax? I have no idea when the error occurred as far as the town knowing the house is on sewer. I don't know if the company that hooked it up never notified the town, or if the town never recorded it. If I tell them now, or if I sell the house, will I have to pay the sewer tax for 25 years retroactive?
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Most MA towns include sewage with the water bill. You said she had the house hooked up to the town. Was a permit pulled when you did this? It looks like it wasn’t so the town doesn’t know to charge you. MA doesn’t meter sewage it’s basically the usage of water times the sewage rate.
Check the tax records. Sometimes sewer bills are paid on property taxes in certain areas.
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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As others have said it comes out of the estate. If there’s no money they’re out of luck. Don’t pay ANYTHING personally to them. Also note that funeral and similar death-related costs and estate administration come out of the estate first. So make sure those are paid or reimbursed first. Then everyone else gets in line to share the crumbs. Not a lawyer.
Yes, that claim goes against the estate. Not you. Yes, it very likely needs to be paid from the estate. All of her debts do
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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If there is not enough money in the estate to pay back the debt, then you will just need to explain that the estate is insolvent.
As others have said it comes out of the estate. If there’s no money they’re out of luck. Don’t pay ANYTHING personally to them. Also note that funeral and similar death-related costs and estate administration come out of the estate first. So make sure those are paid or reimbursed first. Then everyone else gets in line to share the crumbs. Not a lawyer.
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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Also keep in mind that if your mother had any insurance policies, they are not part of her estate; those pay out directly to the beneficiary, presumably you. You would not be obligated to use it to pay estate debts.
They can file a claim against the estate and would need to be treated like any other creditor in the closing of the estate. They cannot file against you personally. The money is owed and does need to be paid back if the estate is large enough to cover it.
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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I am confused. Your gma received $100 a month from a retirement account. I read that as your gma was receiving money that your gma saved while working. Your gma dies and your mom started getting the money. Did your gma have a husband at the time of her death? Does your mom have siblings? I cannot figure out why fidelity would demand the money back if it belongs to your gma. Your mom might be the sole beneficiary of this account upon your gma's death. I would dig deeper into this. I have never heard about brokers asking for or keeping unspent retirement funds. I must be missing something.
**..., but that money is gone.** It's not gone if your Mom had/has money/assets at the time of her death. **My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, ....** Has an intestate probate case actually been opened/filed and if so, is an attorney helping you in this case? **Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money?** I believe so because any money she had no right to receive and spend is replaced with the rest of her estate assets. **Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative?** No but I wouldn't admit that you knew that you were using money to take care of your Mom that your Mom had no legal right to receive. **Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?** I believe so because your Mom had no legal right to spend money that she had no legal right to receive in the first place. HOWEVER, there could be some kind of case law/loop hole specific to your State but only an estate planning attorney in your State could/can answer that. Good luck
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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Not a lawyer. Went through something similar recently. If there are no significant assets and no will do not discount the option of simply walking away. Administering an estate is a lot of work and if there is no inheritance there may be no upside to doing so. There may eventually be a creditor who wants to try and work the estate (that's what happened to me) - I had to sign a form giving up all rights to the estate which I was fine with. I know it seems wrong to leave things unresolved but sometimes it's the best option. Lastly, the best advice I receive during the process was to establish a PO box for any correspondence...this insulates you from anyone getting smart ideas via a shared address. Sorry for your loss and good luck!
I haven't seen this mentioned, but my understanding is that if taxes are owed, the IRS goes to the front of the line in terms of creditors needing to be paid by the estate. Furthermore, if the executor or administrator pays any other creditors before paying the IRS, the executor/administrator is personally responsible for repayment. Be careful about taxes.
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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It might be worth double checking the kind of account you're talking about here. If it's a retirement account of some kind (Like an IRA or 401(k), you didn't say it was a pension, but I'm guessing it might be) then your mom COULD have inherited it if Fidelity had been informed of your grandma's death. Then she would have been entitled to use the funds. That might bring into question some tax penalty though... OR: if it is a pension, there are some pensions that have a rider for the 2nd to die, usually a spouse, but not impossible that it could have been a child. Either of these cases would mean a TON of paperwork most likely, but you might not have to pay back all the amounts if it can be accounted for what would have been paid to your mom under the correct circumstances. That's a ton of work to do though, and I wouldn't do it for a client without getting paid a bunch. Not a lawyer, but I am an investment advisor that has worked with Fidelity in the past.
Not a lawyer. Went through something similar recently. If there are no significant assets and no will do not discount the option of simply walking away. Administering an estate is a lot of work and if there is no inheritance there may be no upside to doing so. There may eventually be a creditor who wants to try and work the estate (that's what happened to me) - I had to sign a form giving up all rights to the estate which I was fine with. I know it seems wrong to leave things unresolved but sometimes it's the best option. Lastly, the best advice I receive during the process was to establish a PO box for any correspondence...this insulates you from anyone getting smart ideas via a shared address. Sorry for your loss and good luck!
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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I haven't seen this mentioned, but my understanding is that if taxes are owed, the IRS goes to the front of the line in terms of creditors needing to be paid by the estate. Furthermore, if the executor or administrator pays any other creditors before paying the IRS, the executor/administrator is personally responsible for repayment. Be careful about taxes.
Qualified money (401k, pension, IRA etc) cannot be owned jointly. It had to have been in gmas name only (the employee who earned the money). The monthly distribution apparently went to an account jointly owned. Qualified accounts must specify a beneficiary. As someone earlier said, the Fidelity account should have been paid out to a beneficiary. Usually bene reaches out to financial entity upon death to collect. In no way would the money belong to fidelity. However if it is returned, then the bene would make a claim for the money to be paid out (presumably OP) (Didn't read all the comments so maybe this conclusion was already reached) Edit: the **offspring** of bene would make claim to Fidelity. Would need probate letter proving rightful heir
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Mom recently passed and I just found out she never reported my grandmother's death in 2012 to Fidelity, now they want the money back. Im in South Carolina if that matters, but the title is the general problem. My grandmother passed back in 2012 and has been receiving roughly $100 a month from Fidelity for a retirement account through her job. The account it was going to had my mom and grandmother's name both on it. My mother nev we informed Fidelity she had passed, so they kept sending the money. My mother passed last month and I just found all this out in the past week or so. They sent a letter saying they were going to need all that money they sent back, but that money is gone. It was spent taking care of my mother the past year as her dementia got worse. My mother had no will, so I'm the representative of her estate now, but don't know what to do about this. Do they have a claim against my mother's estate now since she technically used the money? Can they claim anything against me since I'm the representative? Do they even have to be paid at all at this point since both of then have passed?
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Qualified money (401k, pension, IRA etc) cannot be owned jointly. It had to have been in gmas name only (the employee who earned the money). The monthly distribution apparently went to an account jointly owned. Qualified accounts must specify a beneficiary. As someone earlier said, the Fidelity account should have been paid out to a beneficiary. Usually bene reaches out to financial entity upon death to collect. In no way would the money belong to fidelity. However if it is returned, then the bene would make a claim for the money to be paid out (presumably OP) (Didn't read all the comments so maybe this conclusion was already reached) Edit: the **offspring** of bene would make claim to Fidelity. Would need probate letter proving rightful heir
It might be worth double checking the kind of account you're talking about here. If it's a retirement account of some kind (Like an IRA or 401(k), you didn't say it was a pension, but I'm guessing it might be) then your mom COULD have inherited it if Fidelity had been informed of your grandma's death. Then she would have been entitled to use the funds. That might bring into question some tax penalty though... OR: if it is a pension, there are some pensions that have a rider for the 2nd to die, usually a spouse, but not impossible that it could have been a child. Either of these cases would mean a TON of paperwork most likely, but you might not have to pay back all the amounts if it can be accounted for what would have been paid to your mom under the correct circumstances. That's a ton of work to do though, and I wouldn't do it for a client without getting paid a bunch. Not a lawyer, but I am an investment advisor that has worked with Fidelity in the past.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Good to hear. Nice to hear about a helpful HOA :)
> Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. Cops are outside? Better bring my weed with me.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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> Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. Cops are outside? Better bring my weed with me.
Ironically, douchebag seems to be the one bringing down the neighborhood. comeuppance is fantastic.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Update popcorn eaten. Worth the read. Thanks for the update! Now if only a certain person with a landlocked neighbor would update...
> Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. Cops are outside? Better bring my weed with me.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Great update, OP! Thanks and I'm glad things are working out!!! Also, God, I hope that in the next few weeks we'll see a post from the kid asking for advice with his legal troubles...
> Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. Cops are outside? Better bring my weed with me.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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> Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. Cops are outside? Better bring my weed with me.
Awesome, thanks for the update
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Awesome, thanks for the update
Good to hear. Nice to hear about a helpful HOA :)
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Great update, OP! Thanks and I'm glad things are working out!!! Also, God, I hope that in the next few weeks we'll see a post from the kid asking for advice with his legal troubles...
Ironically, douchebag seems to be the one bringing down the neighborhood. comeuppance is fantastic.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Awesome, thanks for the update
Ironically, douchebag seems to be the one bringing down the neighborhood. comeuppance is fantastic.
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Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit.
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Update popcorn eaten. Worth the read. Thanks for the update! Now if only a certain person with a landlocked neighbor would update...
If you have some cash, get some security cameras on your house and property ASAP. Douchebags rarely leave quietly. If you are handy, you can install systems you can get online pretty cheap.
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