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2x4zar | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit. | cowyeyj | cowxl2q | 1,424,891,517 | 1,424,890,237 | 43 | 33 | If you have some cash, get some security cameras on your house and property ASAP. Douchebags rarely leave quietly. If you are handy, you can install systems you can get online pretty cheap. | Great update, OP! Thanks and I'm glad things are working out!!! Also, God, I hope that in the next few weeks we'll see a post from the kid asking for advice with his legal troubles... | 1 | 1,280 | 1.30303 |
2x4zar | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit. | cowx46g | cowyeyj | 1,424,889,505 | 1,424,891,517 | 8 | 43 | Awesome, thanks for the update | If you have some cash, get some security cameras on your house and property ASAP. Douchebags rarely leave quietly. If you are handy, you can install systems you can get online pretty cheap. | 0 | 2,012 | 5.375 |
2x4zar | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit. | cowxl2q | cowxpoq | 1,424,890,237 | 1,424,890,433 | 33 | 37 | Great update, OP! Thanks and I'm glad things are working out!!! Also, God, I hope that in the next few weeks we'll see a post from the kid asking for advice with his legal troubles... | Update popcorn eaten. Worth the read. Thanks for the update! Now if only a certain person with a landlocked neighbor would update... | 0 | 196 | 1.121212 |
2x4zar | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit. | cowxpoq | cowx46g | 1,424,890,433 | 1,424,889,505 | 37 | 8 | Update popcorn eaten. Worth the read. Thanks for the update! Now if only a certain person with a landlocked neighbor would update... | Awesome, thanks for the update | 1 | 928 | 4.625 |
2x4zar | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit. | cowx46g | cowxl2q | 1,424,889,505 | 1,424,890,237 | 8 | 33 | Awesome, thanks for the update | Great update, OP! Thanks and I'm glad things are working out!!! Also, God, I hope that in the next few weeks we'll see a post from the kid asking for advice with his legal troubles... | 0 | 732 | 4.125 |
2x4zar | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Update – [Virginia] – Neighbor threatened to sue because we purchased a bigger/better house for less than what he paid and “devalued” his home, has threatened the other new homeowners. His teenage son is a thief and the HOA is pissed at him. Original post here -http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/2v6xv4/virginia_neighbor_has_threatened_suing_me_and/ …and the plot thickens with an out of control idiot teenage son, and the HOA being pretty pissed off. I know this is long, but trust me; it is well worth the read. Where to start…? The other weekend NoVa got snow. Where I live, we got A LOT of snow, over 10 inches! I only have a lowly shovel, a neighbor I have never met owns a brand new huge and powerful snow blower, and being the nice guy he is, he helped quite a few of us out in moving the mountains of snow that fell. I thanked him and told him I owe him a 6 pack of something delicious. After some polite “nawww man, you don’t have to do that” comments, he told me that if I were to pick something up, and he were not home, one could place a 6 pack in the latched decorative crate that is on his front porch, between the rocking chairs, and he would not object to finding a delicious treasure in there. He’s a nice guy. That following Monday (3 days later) I went to the grocery store and among my items was my nice neighbors 6 pack. I did as he said, put the beer in the crate on his porch, noticed his security camera and waved to his security camera. On Wednesday evening I saw Douchebag McGee as I was pulling into my driveway. Hindsight, I am fairly certain he was likely waiting for me to get home. As soon as I get out of my truck, he starts shouting from across the street that I will be going to jail for providing alcohol to minors. He goes on to say that he discovered his kid wandering the neighborhood wasted on late Monday night. I immediately put 2 and 2 together and realize that his son stole the beer from my nice neighbors front porch crate and drank it. I ignore him, and walk right over to my nice neighbor’s house and jokingly ask if he got my beers I left him. He says he did not and I tell him he may want to review the security camera footage for the last few days. He laughs and tells me that he already did that, and directs me to his garage where he shows me his kids damaged snow toys (sleds, discs, tubes). From what him and I can piece together, I placed the beer in his crate in the evening, Douchebag’s teenage son came onto his porch minutes after, stole the beer, kicked (and left a dent and crack) in the siding of the house, grabbed a sled and took off. We head into my nice neighbor’s house to watch/review the security camera footage and he shows me what he just described. Fast forward a few hours later, an obviously intoxicated teenager comes back with a broken sled and takes a disc and tube from the side of the house, and pees on the AC unit before leaving. About 20 minutes later he is back with his empty bottles, smashes a few of them in the gutter and puts the broken snow toys back on the side of the house. All this happened when the nice neighbor and family was not home. At this point I tell nice neighbor about Douchebag’s legal threats and he decides that we should speak about him at that next night’s (Wednesday) HOA meeting. I head home, ignoring Douchebag’s continuous yells from across the street. Wednesday night comes and nice neighbor and I get up and address our problems with Douchebag to the HOA. Nice neighbor starts by talking about the theft as well as the damage to his kid’s toys and siding. I get up and discuss the legal threats made, at the same time, the other 3 new neighbors get up and grumble that Douchebag had threatened them with a suit as well. One woman (a tiny waif of a woman mind you) said that he cornered her against her car when she got home a few weeks ago; she went on to say that he seemed pretty drunk too. At this point the HOA President, the Attorney for the HOA, and the Property Management Representative call for calm in the room (other neighbors were getting mad) and ask those of us who have been threatened by Douchebag to stick around, including nice neighbor. According to my wife, while I was traveling for work this Monday, cops showed up at nice neighbor’s house in the late afternoon, took a statement, and a flash drive of the video. Nice neighbor came over to my house and told my wife that the HOA told him to go ahead and call the cops to report property destruction and trespassing. The cops assured him that they are not interested in speaking with me, that they are “going after this little shit” because he is a problem at his high school and that they are not unfamiliar as to who he is. Again, according to my wife, the cops then head over to Douchebag’s house and after some yelling, Douche Jr. comes outside and they arrest him. My wife said they pulled out of his pockets what looked like a small bag of weed and a glass pipe. I got home late last night and received an email this morning from the HOA President addressed to me, nice neighbor, and the other 3 new homeowners. In it, it stated that they were made aware by the cops that they had arrested the teenager, and that the HOA attorney was looking into figuring out a way to stop the legal threats from Douchebag. We were assured that there is no legal precedence for suing someone because they purchased something for less than you did, but nonetheless, they are here to help if need be. So that’s where we sit. | cowx46g | cox0nqo | 1,424,889,505 | 1,424,894,914 | 8 | 17 | Awesome, thanks for the update | Wow. Two rarities in one. An OP actually comes back and updates us, and an HOA does something useful! This is a very good day. | 0 | 5,409 | 2.125 |
yd6pw9 | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | Threatened to sue over bad review.. Please I need help! My sister in law(Older brother's wife) just got served papers this morning over a review I had placed against a company. To make a long story short my father passed away last month very suddenly. We hired a charter bus for the funeral to get elderly family members to our state because there really was no other option due to their remote location. Two days before the funeral the company canceled on us, and then told us they could still do it for DOUBLE the amount we originally agreed on. We accepted because at that point we couldn't find anything else on such short notice. After this all went down I left an honest review on my family's behalf, this incident caused so much stress and tears during an already incredibly hard time. After that the company claimed the review was false and never happened, and tried to get it taken off trust pilot. I asked my sister in law( my older brother's wife) for screenshots and she sent me proof, after that trust pilot verified my review and gave it a verified check mark and we thought that was the end of it... Well apparently in the fine print they signed something called an anti disparagement clause... which means that we cannot say anything negative about the company or its services... EVER. Now they are threatening to sue us over lost business, legal fees, and defamation... Everything I said was true, I even talked about how nice the driver was to my hurt grandparents.. But I made it a one star review and explained how much stress this whole incident caused us all because... Well it was ridiculously stressful, and now I feel awful cause I've created a legal mess. What do I do? I'm scared if I delete the review they will still go after my family for lost business... Please I desperately need advice, they're giving us till midnight to delete the review. I don't know if it helps but the state I live in is North Carolina. | itqdbq6 | itrehi9 | 1,666,711,062 | 1,666,725,436 | 160 | 230 | Contact an attorney as this should go against Consumer Review Fairness Act. | You got served a Cease and Desist. the fact that what they are wanting is in violation of consumer protection law, and is truthful with evidence, means you dont have to do anything until such time as they *actually serve you with a suit.* Your family potentially has the option of possibly suing THEM for breach of contract and recouping the additional amount you paid for service though. This would take an attorney's review of the initial service agreement that they canceled on you for. | 0 | 14,374 | 1.4375 |
yd6pw9 | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | Threatened to sue over bad review.. Please I need help! My sister in law(Older brother's wife) just got served papers this morning over a review I had placed against a company. To make a long story short my father passed away last month very suddenly. We hired a charter bus for the funeral to get elderly family members to our state because there really was no other option due to their remote location. Two days before the funeral the company canceled on us, and then told us they could still do it for DOUBLE the amount we originally agreed on. We accepted because at that point we couldn't find anything else on such short notice. After this all went down I left an honest review on my family's behalf, this incident caused so much stress and tears during an already incredibly hard time. After that the company claimed the review was false and never happened, and tried to get it taken off trust pilot. I asked my sister in law( my older brother's wife) for screenshots and she sent me proof, after that trust pilot verified my review and gave it a verified check mark and we thought that was the end of it... Well apparently in the fine print they signed something called an anti disparagement clause... which means that we cannot say anything negative about the company or its services... EVER. Now they are threatening to sue us over lost business, legal fees, and defamation... Everything I said was true, I even talked about how nice the driver was to my hurt grandparents.. But I made it a one star review and explained how much stress this whole incident caused us all because... Well it was ridiculously stressful, and now I feel awful cause I've created a legal mess. What do I do? I'm scared if I delete the review they will still go after my family for lost business... Please I desperately need advice, they're giving us till midnight to delete the review. I don't know if it helps but the state I live in is North Carolina. | itrehi9 | itqm330 | 1,666,725,436 | 1,666,714,508 | 230 | 105 | You got served a Cease and Desist. the fact that what they are wanting is in violation of consumer protection law, and is truthful with evidence, means you dont have to do anything until such time as they *actually serve you with a suit.* Your family potentially has the option of possibly suing THEM for breach of contract and recouping the additional amount you paid for service though. This would take an attorney's review of the initial service agreement that they canceled on you for. | I am not a lawyer. I found this article and it sounds like non-disparagement clauses are explicitly outlawed by the Consumer Review Fairness Act. I would recommend stopping all contact with the company, collect notes of all interactions and evidence, and contact FTC and/or CFPB. If you have already been served, you will need a lawyer to respond to the claim in a timely manner. https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2019/06/consumer-gag-clauses-totally-not-awesome-under-crfa | 1 | 10,928 | 2.190476 |
yd6pw9 | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | Threatened to sue over bad review.. Please I need help! My sister in law(Older brother's wife) just got served papers this morning over a review I had placed against a company. To make a long story short my father passed away last month very suddenly. We hired a charter bus for the funeral to get elderly family members to our state because there really was no other option due to their remote location. Two days before the funeral the company canceled on us, and then told us they could still do it for DOUBLE the amount we originally agreed on. We accepted because at that point we couldn't find anything else on such short notice. After this all went down I left an honest review on my family's behalf, this incident caused so much stress and tears during an already incredibly hard time. After that the company claimed the review was false and never happened, and tried to get it taken off trust pilot. I asked my sister in law( my older brother's wife) for screenshots and she sent me proof, after that trust pilot verified my review and gave it a verified check mark and we thought that was the end of it... Well apparently in the fine print they signed something called an anti disparagement clause... which means that we cannot say anything negative about the company or its services... EVER. Now they are threatening to sue us over lost business, legal fees, and defamation... Everything I said was true, I even talked about how nice the driver was to my hurt grandparents.. But I made it a one star review and explained how much stress this whole incident caused us all because... Well it was ridiculously stressful, and now I feel awful cause I've created a legal mess. What do I do? I'm scared if I delete the review they will still go after my family for lost business... Please I desperately need advice, they're giving us till midnight to delete the review. I don't know if it helps but the state I live in is North Carolina. | itrl0d1 | itsdtir | 1,666,727,912 | 1,666,739,767 | 3 | 12 | Were you served with an actual lawsuit or just a demand letter? There would be a substantial difference between the two in regards to what you should do. | If I were you I'd cease contact with them, and do not alter, edit, or delete the review. Consult an attorney, and include all documentation. I would be cautious but not worried about their threats, but I would file a suit for the funeral home breaching contract by threatening cancellation or you pay double the previously agreed upon fee. https://ncdoj.gov/protecting-consumers/ https://ncdoj.gov/protecting-consumers/purchases-and-contracts/right-to-cancel/ | 0 | 11,855 | 4 |
yd6pw9 | legaladvice_train | 0.9 | Threatened to sue over bad review.. Please I need help! My sister in law(Older brother's wife) just got served papers this morning over a review I had placed against a company. To make a long story short my father passed away last month very suddenly. We hired a charter bus for the funeral to get elderly family members to our state because there really was no other option due to their remote location. Two days before the funeral the company canceled on us, and then told us they could still do it for DOUBLE the amount we originally agreed on. We accepted because at that point we couldn't find anything else on such short notice. After this all went down I left an honest review on my family's behalf, this incident caused so much stress and tears during an already incredibly hard time. After that the company claimed the review was false and never happened, and tried to get it taken off trust pilot. I asked my sister in law( my older brother's wife) for screenshots and she sent me proof, after that trust pilot verified my review and gave it a verified check mark and we thought that was the end of it... Well apparently in the fine print they signed something called an anti disparagement clause... which means that we cannot say anything negative about the company or its services... EVER. Now they are threatening to sue us over lost business, legal fees, and defamation... Everything I said was true, I even talked about how nice the driver was to my hurt grandparents.. But I made it a one star review and explained how much stress this whole incident caused us all because... Well it was ridiculously stressful, and now I feel awful cause I've created a legal mess. What do I do? I'm scared if I delete the review they will still go after my family for lost business... Please I desperately need advice, they're giving us till midnight to delete the review. I don't know if it helps but the state I live in is North Carolina. | itrl0d1 | itsnetn | 1,666,727,912 | 1,666,744,104 | 3 | 9 | Were you served with an actual lawsuit or just a demand letter? There would be a substantial difference between the two in regards to what you should do. | Your SIL was served, for *your* review. What was your involvement in the agreement with the company? Did you sign anything, liaise with them, was your name a reference or contact point? If you had no direct involvement with the hiring of the company, it seems odd that they would sue your SIL. As others said, if that ‘anti-disparagement’ clause is illegal (I’m not a lawyer, but is that even a good legal term to use? How does that stack up against the truth as a defence?) then that part of the agreement at least is void. | 0 | 16,192 | 3 |
xcjsc6 | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | Boss verbally approved me for relocation months ago, I moved and now suddenly upper management is mad and says I have until the end of the month to move back or they will terminate my position. My work is 100% remote. Hi! So quick background, been at this company for 2 years. Sales position. Have always been full remote, have never once had a face to face client meeting. I get bosses approval (verbally) to relocate cross country. Have been there for a month and work output has not declined at all (arguably improved). I have had meetings with my boss leading up to the move where he verbally approved my move and knew that it was happening. My boss's boss decides randomly to have a mandatory sales meeting (in-person) with 2 days notice, and I am unable to attend because I live across the country. Nothing is said to me. Fast forward 2 weeks to this morning, I have what I think is a regular one-on-one with my boss. However when I join the meeting, I see his boss also in the meeting. They begin by saying that I moved randomly without company approval and that I have until 9/30 to move back or they will terminate my position. There are no "Employee must be in office 2 days a week" requirements from HR, nor face to face meetings with clients. However my boss's boss says that it is a requirement of the job to be able to meet face to face with clients. I have been there 2+ years and neither I or any of my peers have ever once done this. Our clients do not even live in the same time zone at all either, so it is a massively irrelevant point. We also have many other people on the team who work fully remote from far away states, and I mention this and he says they are strategically placed for customer meetings. I know these people and they live in rural areas and have never once met with a client face to face, so it seems he is lying about a few things here. I eventually say "It seems like something else is going on here...." and my boss asks his boss "Can we tell him the other thing?" and my boss's boss goes on to deflect and says that even if I do decide to relocate back within 2 weeks, that my job could still be terminated. I ask why and he says my performance is not as good as some of my peers. ( a few weeks ago he told me I have the highest aptitude on my team, and that I can do things my peers cannot) I am not on a Performance Improvement Plan so not sure if I can get fired for cause there. Further, to make all of this worse, my boss is also now denying he gave me verbal confirmation, which he did many times. I can tell he is put in a weird spot and doesn't know how to proceed, but I feel thrown under the bus and need to look out for myself before him. In terms of proof that he did give me permission, the best I have is an email from a few months ago in which he says "Did you move already?" So nothing great there beyond word of mouth. ​ In terms of actual reasoning vs stated reasoning, I think something fishy is going on behind the scenes. It is clear that my boss's boss for some reason feels disrespected by my move. I'm not sure if they're laying people off and want to save resources on severance/unemployment so they are trying to terminate me with cause, or just looking for a reason to fire me at this point. During the meeting they kept taking notes of what I was saying and saying that they were gonna bring that to HR. ​ I have a personal cell phone call planned with my direct boss in a few hours where I am going to ask for transparency, but I want to make sure I am properly postured and do not say anything that could hurt my position. ​ In terms of next steps, I feel a little betrayed by the company and probably would prefer to take a severance package then to stay in tense circumstances where I know I am not wanted. How should I proceed? Can I request a hearing with HR where I present these counter arguments? ​ Thanks in advance. | io5v1hl | io5mtt2 | 1,663,011,517 | 1,663,008,202 | 59 | 28 | Having an employee work from another state means the company has a nexus of business there. They have to comply with labor laws there, pay into unemployment, May have issues with insurance providers, and are subject to regulations and taxes on their work and product if applicable. It’s a big deal to move employees and involves HR paperwork. My guess is that your manager had no idea that there was anything like this involved and the company is now scrabbling. Telling you to move back is legal. They get to decide place of performance and can have different metrics for different people as long as it’s not based on a protected class. | Location matters…. What state are you in? If you are in an at will state (and chances are that you are), and assuming you don’t have a contract (again, chances are you don’t), then what they are doing is 100% legal. Even if they did give you permission to move, there’s nothing that prevents them from revoking that permission the next day. It doesn’t matter other employees are allowed to work remote. It doesn’t matter that your productivity is arguably higher. | 1 | 3,315 | 2.107143 |
wl0yk3 | legaladvice_train | 0.77 | [USA, FL] My job is telling me I have to be removed from my current position to a lower one with a pay reduction because they cannot accommodate me for my permanent medical restrictions from my congenital heart disorder I work in a Tier 3 leadership position with tenure at an Amazon facility. As of 2021 I have been experiencing medical issues related to my congenital heart condition. During early 2022, I experienced abnormal symptoms and have been following up with my primary physician and cardiologist who have cleared me to work with specific permanent restrictions of not lifting, carrying, or exerting 50lbs or more in any direction. I submitted my medical accommodation paperwork to the human resources team. After about a month of back and forth between the company’s HR disability & accommodation team and my physicians and I, they informed me that they cannot accommodate me for my current position. They stated that I would have to step down from my current Tier 3 position and continue my employment as a Tier 1 with a pay deduction to that of a Tier 1 associate. I am looking to see if there is anything I can do about this. | ijqedfr | ijqefeg | 1,660,146,996 | 1,660,147,016 | 31 | 46 | Employers can not be forced to make what they deem is unreasonable accommodations, including changing the core responsibilities or duties of the job. It sounds like Amazon HR determined that they could not have you in your current role with those restrictions without changing your responsibilities, so they have moved you to a role that fits the accommodation. That is legal. | Is it reasonable that you can’t carry 50lbs? Do you know the essential job functions of the position? | 0 | 20 | 1.483871 |
cdcw30 | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | i’m a 17 year old working at a day camp. we get no breaks (not even lunch) and attempting to get lunch alone when campers are by the pool with my co counselors and lifeguards results in dock of a days pay. is there any legality in this? | ettogpg | ettkhn7 | 1,563,190,306 | 1,563,184,902 | 365 | 52 | Not sure if anyone suggested this yet or not:. Contact the American Camp Association. Most camps belong to this, or State-level association. | Just to add more to this https://www.acacamps.org/resource-library/state-laws-regulations/state-regulations-new-york | 1 | 5,404 | 7.019231 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuahmg | diuaeje | 1,497,358,426 | 1,497,358,296 | 625 | 127 | She can certainly try to sue you but her lawyer will laugh at her, the judge will laugh at her, we will laugh at her, I think the only person not laughing at her is her. That in mind, if she does sue you, do not ignore it. Get yourself a lawyer at that time. | Nope, she's 18, she can do whatever she wants without her parents' approval. | 1 | 130 | 4.92126 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuaeje | diufne0 | 1,497,358,296 | 1,497,365,017 | 127 | 248 | Nope, she's 18, she can do whatever she wants without her parents' approval. | > I've denied them of having a grandchild And on behalf of society, we thank you for it. If theres any other things you can deny them please let us know how we can assist you. Fuck them. You're fine. I hear aquarium sand is the nicest of sand for one to pound on. | 0 | 6,721 | 1.952756 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diufne0 | diuasv7 | 1,497,365,017 | 1,497,358,895 | 248 | 106 | > I've denied them of having a grandchild And on behalf of society, we thank you for it. If theres any other things you can deny them please let us know how we can assist you. Fuck them. You're fine. I hear aquarium sand is the nicest of sand for one to pound on. | > Do I need to worry? Probably not. Being a self-centered jackass isn't genetic. Seriously, parents can fuck right off. She's 18, it's her decision, and they're trying to insert themselves and their desires into it. They have no standing and no lawyer in his/her right mind is going to look at this as anything but crazy. | 1 | 6,122 | 2.339623 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diufne0 | diue1fa | 1,497,365,017 | 1,497,363,148 | 248 | 99 | > I've denied them of having a grandchild And on behalf of society, we thank you for it. If theres any other things you can deny them please let us know how we can assist you. Fuck them. You're fine. I hear aquarium sand is the nicest of sand for one to pound on. | They have no legal standing against you as your sister is an adult. It is possible, though, that they will retribute against your sister. You might consider if you can shelter her for some time. | 1 | 1,869 | 2.505051 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuambd | diufne0 | 1,497,358,621 | 1,497,365,017 | 70 | 248 | She is 18. You didn't do anything illegal. Tell them to go pound sand. | > I've denied them of having a grandchild And on behalf of society, we thank you for it. If theres any other things you can deny them please let us know how we can assist you. Fuck them. You're fine. I hear aquarium sand is the nicest of sand for one to pound on. | 0 | 6,396 | 3.542857 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuih7l | diuaeje | 1,497,368,100 | 1,497,358,296 | 146 | 127 | More of a personal comment: make sure your sister has access to a proper support group. If she lives with her parents, they may be emotionally harassing her about her decision at a vulnerable time. | Nope, she's 18, she can do whatever she wants without her parents' approval. | 1 | 9,804 | 1.149606 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuasv7 | diuih7l | 1,497,358,895 | 1,497,368,100 | 106 | 146 | > Do I need to worry? Probably not. Being a self-centered jackass isn't genetic. Seriously, parents can fuck right off. She's 18, it's her decision, and they're trying to insert themselves and their desires into it. They have no standing and no lawyer in his/her right mind is going to look at this as anything but crazy. | More of a personal comment: make sure your sister has access to a proper support group. If she lives with her parents, they may be emotionally harassing her about her decision at a vulnerable time. | 0 | 9,205 | 1.377358 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diue1fa | diuih7l | 1,497,363,148 | 1,497,368,100 | 99 | 146 | They have no legal standing against you as your sister is an adult. It is possible, though, that they will retribute against your sister. You might consider if you can shelter her for some time. | More of a personal comment: make sure your sister has access to a proper support group. If she lives with her parents, they may be emotionally harassing her about her decision at a vulnerable time. | 0 | 4,952 | 1.474747 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuambd | diuih7l | 1,497,358,621 | 1,497,368,100 | 70 | 146 | She is 18. You didn't do anything illegal. Tell them to go pound sand. | More of a personal comment: make sure your sister has access to a proper support group. If she lives with her parents, they may be emotionally harassing her about her decision at a vulnerable time. | 0 | 9,479 | 2.085714 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diui2h6 | diuih7l | 1,497,367,655 | 1,497,368,100 | 19 | 146 | You sound like an awesome sibling. They have no grounds to sue you for anything; your sister is an adult and can make her own medical decisions. | More of a personal comment: make sure your sister has access to a proper support group. If she lives with her parents, they may be emotionally harassing her about her decision at a vulnerable time. | 0 | 445 | 7.684211 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuambd | diuasv7 | 1,497,358,621 | 1,497,358,895 | 70 | 106 | She is 18. You didn't do anything illegal. Tell them to go pound sand. | > Do I need to worry? Probably not. Being a self-centered jackass isn't genetic. Seriously, parents can fuck right off. She's 18, it's her decision, and they're trying to insert themselves and their desires into it. They have no standing and no lawyer in his/her right mind is going to look at this as anything but crazy. | 0 | 274 | 1.514286 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuambd | diue1fa | 1,497,358,621 | 1,497,363,148 | 70 | 99 | She is 18. You didn't do anything illegal. Tell them to go pound sand. | They have no legal standing against you as your sister is an adult. It is possible, though, that they will retribute against your sister. You might consider if you can shelter her for some time. | 0 | 4,527 | 1.414286 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | dium9zr | dium0qh | 1,497,372,011 | 1,497,371,762 | 61 | 21 | Congratulations on being a supportive sibling! May I suggest that you follow through and make sure your sister gets an IUD? A form of birth control her crazy parents can't interfere with, and to make sure this doesn't happen again. Also, she needs to stop telling her parents anything about her sexual health. The obligatory warning (in this sub), to get the hell out of PA, lest she end up on the hook for their nursing home bills down the road through PA filial support laws. | The percentage of people who threaten to sue that actually do so is pretty low. Plus they have no case. Don't worry about it unless you're served with actual legal papers from a court. Nasty letters from a lawyer can be ignored (or graded for spelling and grammar and returned, which can be fun). | 1 | 249 | 2.904762 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diui2h6 | dium9zr | 1,497,367,655 | 1,497,372,011 | 19 | 61 | You sound like an awesome sibling. They have no grounds to sue you for anything; your sister is an adult and can make her own medical decisions. | Congratulations on being a supportive sibling! May I suggest that you follow through and make sure your sister gets an IUD? A form of birth control her crazy parents can't interfere with, and to make sure this doesn't happen again. Also, she needs to stop telling her parents anything about her sexual health. The obligatory warning (in this sub), to get the hell out of PA, lest she end up on the hook for their nursing home bills down the road through PA filial support laws. | 0 | 4,356 | 3.210526 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | dium0qh | diuqc3w | 1,497,371,762 | 1,497,376,062 | 21 | 26 | The percentage of people who threaten to sue that actually do so is pretty low. Plus they have no case. Don't worry about it unless you're served with actual legal papers from a court. Nasty letters from a lawyer can be ignored (or graded for spelling and grammar and returned, which can be fun). | Wonderful how these so called parents are only considering their wants. To them their daughter is nothing more than an incubator used to produce grandchildren on demand for them. Fuck anti choice fucktards. | 0 | 4,300 | 1.238095 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | diuqc3w | diui2h6 | 1,497,376,062 | 1,497,367,655 | 26 | 19 | Wonderful how these so called parents are only considering their wants. To them their daughter is nothing more than an incubator used to produce grandchildren on demand for them. Fuck anti choice fucktards. | You sound like an awesome sibling. They have no grounds to sue you for anything; your sister is an adult and can make her own medical decisions. | 1 | 8,407 | 1.368421 |
6gznin | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | I took my sister to have an abortion. Her parents are threatening to sue me for causing them distress. Pennsylvania. Two weeks ago my sister called me and said she's in trouble. I met her and she asked me to help her get an abortion. She is 18. She said her parents don't want her to get an abortion and her boyfriend has disappeared. So I took her, paid for it myself. She is my half sister. We have the same dad. But she has been adopted by her mother's husband. The parents I refer to are her mother and the step father. Is there any grounds for what they say? Could I possibly be held liable? Her mom said I've denied them of having a grandchild and it's put them under emotional distress by facilitating her abortion, and I should expect to hear from their lawyer. Do I need to worry? | dium0qh | diui2h6 | 1,497,371,762 | 1,497,367,655 | 21 | 19 | The percentage of people who threaten to sue that actually do so is pretty low. Plus they have no case. Don't worry about it unless you're served with actual legal papers from a court. Nasty letters from a lawyer can be ignored (or graded for spelling and grammar and returned, which can be fun). | You sound like an awesome sibling. They have no grounds to sue you for anything; your sister is an adult and can make her own medical decisions. | 1 | 4,107 | 1.105263 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csywcl7 | csysrwf | 1,436,555,378 | 1,436,550,135 | 19 | 4 | Sounds like your sister sucks and legally you need to evict her. It might be possible to get her to cooperate if you explains that: 1) You can and will evict her if it comes to that. 2) Tell her that she will have an eviction on her record and then good luck finding another place to live. 3) If she makes you do that then she's dead to you and should never expect your help again in her life. 4) If you incur costs in seeking her eviction then you would also attempt to have her forced to pay those costs. Or she can leave agreeably and you'll give her a bit of cash and help her out how you can. | I don't think she knows what "constructive eviction" means. | 1 | 5,243 | 4.75 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csynvcs | csywcl7 | 1,436,542,707 | 1,436,555,378 | 2 | 19 | Edit: Oops location is in title, my bad. I am not a lawyer. You really need to give a location. Being there that long she has probably established residency there. With no formal written lease, she's most likely a month-to-month tenant, and needs a formal notice to be taken out. Some states require 30 days minimum, some require 60 days. Depends on where you are. If she refuses to leave after the formal notice period, you will have to file for eviction through the courts. And no, you cant do anything to her stuff without the court saying you can. | Sounds like your sister sucks and legally you need to evict her. It might be possible to get her to cooperate if you explains that: 1) You can and will evict her if it comes to that. 2) Tell her that she will have an eviction on her record and then good luck finding another place to live. 3) If she makes you do that then she's dead to you and should never expect your help again in her life. 4) If you incur costs in seeking her eviction then you would also attempt to have her forced to pay those costs. Or she can leave agreeably and you'll give her a bit of cash and help her out how you can. | 0 | 12,671 | 9.5 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csyy8e9 | csysrwf | 1,436,558,146 | 1,436,550,135 | 8 | 4 | Once you have gone through the eviction process, make sure everyone knows exactly what she did. Make sure no one makes the mistake of helping her again. | I don't think she knows what "constructive eviction" means. | 1 | 8,011 | 2 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csyy8e9 | csynvcs | 1,436,558,146 | 1,436,542,707 | 8 | 2 | Once you have gone through the eviction process, make sure everyone knows exactly what she did. Make sure no one makes the mistake of helping her again. | Edit: Oops location is in title, my bad. I am not a lawyer. You really need to give a location. Being there that long she has probably established residency there. With no formal written lease, she's most likely a month-to-month tenant, and needs a formal notice to be taken out. Some states require 30 days minimum, some require 60 days. Depends on where you are. If she refuses to leave after the formal notice period, you will have to file for eviction through the courts. And no, you cant do anything to her stuff without the court saying you can. | 1 | 15,439 | 4 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csysrwf | csz215i | 1,436,550,135 | 1,436,563,983 | 4 | 5 | I don't think she knows what "constructive eviction" means. | I am not a lawyer If she wants to get nasty, she can drag an eviction on, depending on the the state, for more than a year on a typical 30-day notice eviction You have the following options - 1). Get a lawyer and file that eviction ASAP. She will likely get a 30-day notice from the judge. Possibly 3- or 5-day but that's up to the judge and state. Also possibly a 60- or 90-day as well though, depending on state and circumstance. Pros: official channels, professionally handled. In the long term you will win. Threat of having an eviction on file for step-sis may be a motivation for her to resolve w/o going thru full process. Cons: costs money (court filing fees, lawyer fees). Time - you started process too late, step-sis will probably have rights past your contract date. potentially several months or a year past if she knows how to fight and is willing to get dirty. 2). Threaten the lawyer and eviction above, but say you'd rather give her the money (or portion thereof, or more if time is a motivation over money) that you'd otherwise spend fighting her, to her, if she'll be out in time for you to make your contract date. Pros: possibly cheaper, but absolutely faster. No eviction on file for her is better leverage as well. Cons: she could back out and still screw you with everything possible above. Get everything from here on out in writing, all communications, all offers, counter-offers, etc. Good luck | 0 | 13,848 | 1.25 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csynvcs | csz215i | 1,436,542,707 | 1,436,563,983 | 2 | 5 | Edit: Oops location is in title, my bad. I am not a lawyer. You really need to give a location. Being there that long she has probably established residency there. With no formal written lease, she's most likely a month-to-month tenant, and needs a formal notice to be taken out. Some states require 30 days minimum, some require 60 days. Depends on where you are. If she refuses to leave after the formal notice period, you will have to file for eviction through the courts. And no, you cant do anything to her stuff without the court saying you can. | I am not a lawyer If she wants to get nasty, she can drag an eviction on, depending on the the state, for more than a year on a typical 30-day notice eviction You have the following options - 1). Get a lawyer and file that eviction ASAP. She will likely get a 30-day notice from the judge. Possibly 3- or 5-day but that's up to the judge and state. Also possibly a 60- or 90-day as well though, depending on state and circumstance. Pros: official channels, professionally handled. In the long term you will win. Threat of having an eviction on file for step-sis may be a motivation for her to resolve w/o going thru full process. Cons: costs money (court filing fees, lawyer fees). Time - you started process too late, step-sis will probably have rights past your contract date. potentially several months or a year past if she knows how to fight and is willing to get dirty. 2). Threaten the lawyer and eviction above, but say you'd rather give her the money (or portion thereof, or more if time is a motivation over money) that you'd otherwise spend fighting her, to her, if she'll be out in time for you to make your contract date. Pros: possibly cheaper, but absolutely faster. No eviction on file for her is better leverage as well. Cons: she could back out and still screw you with everything possible above. Get everything from here on out in writing, all communications, all offers, counter-offers, etc. Good luck | 0 | 21,276 | 2.5 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csyyn13 | csz215i | 1,436,558,772 | 1,436,563,983 | 2 | 5 | >My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. Did she get evicted somewhere else? I'm wondering how well she knows eviction processes in your area... | I am not a lawyer If she wants to get nasty, she can drag an eviction on, depending on the the state, for more than a year on a typical 30-day notice eviction You have the following options - 1). Get a lawyer and file that eviction ASAP. She will likely get a 30-day notice from the judge. Possibly 3- or 5-day but that's up to the judge and state. Also possibly a 60- or 90-day as well though, depending on state and circumstance. Pros: official channels, professionally handled. In the long term you will win. Threat of having an eviction on file for step-sis may be a motivation for her to resolve w/o going thru full process. Cons: costs money (court filing fees, lawyer fees). Time - you started process too late, step-sis will probably have rights past your contract date. potentially several months or a year past if she knows how to fight and is willing to get dirty. 2). Threaten the lawyer and eviction above, but say you'd rather give her the money (or portion thereof, or more if time is a motivation over money) that you'd otherwise spend fighting her, to her, if she'll be out in time for you to make your contract date. Pros: possibly cheaper, but absolutely faster. No eviction on file for her is better leverage as well. Cons: she could back out and still screw you with everything possible above. Get everything from here on out in writing, all communications, all offers, counter-offers, etc. Good luck | 0 | 5,211 | 2.5 |
3ct374 | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | My sister moved in with me 6 months ago, now it's about to be sold, she is threatening to call police/sue? Iowa My step-sister became homeless about 6 months ago. She had nowhere to go and I let her move in with me, but made it clear that I was trying to sell my house and would not provide housing for her after that point, she needed to be back on her feet. I found a buyer who will take possession 3 weeks from today. I informed her of this two weeks ago. Today when I asked her about when she plans to get her stuff out, she said technically she doesn't even have to leave. She says as long as there is no court order evicting her, me making her leave would be a "constructive eviction." She basically has decided she does not want to leave unless a judge says she absolutely must. I don't know if that is true, so I would appreciate any clarification. In addition: what now? If she doesn't have her stuff out in 3 weeks, can I just box it up and leave it in her front yard? (She does own a property and house, but it was condemned and she cannot legally live in it). Thanks. Edit: I can put it in a storage shed or something as well I suppose. But what happens if she doesn't get it out / take over paying for it? | csynvcs | csysrwf | 1,436,542,707 | 1,436,550,135 | 2 | 4 | Edit: Oops location is in title, my bad. I am not a lawyer. You really need to give a location. Being there that long she has probably established residency there. With no formal written lease, she's most likely a month-to-month tenant, and needs a formal notice to be taken out. Some states require 30 days minimum, some require 60 days. Depends on where you are. If she refuses to leave after the formal notice period, you will have to file for eviction through the courts. And no, you cant do anything to her stuff without the court saying you can. | I don't think she knows what "constructive eviction" means. | 0 | 7,428 | 2 |
alilqt | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | [NJ] Someone left a note under my windshield wiper that I damaged their bumper pulling into a parking space. That definitely never happened. How should I respond? This morning I drove to the train station and parked in a parking space without any incident. No weird noises, no impact, nothing. I turned off my engine and sat around for a few minutes catching up on Twitter, then caught my train. I went to work, and during the day, there was a snow squall that dropped maybe a bare 1/4" in the area. When I got back to my car, there was a note under the windshield, utterly untouched by any snow. It reads: "Hello you scraped (Badly) my bumper pulling into yor space, today at the %townnameredacted% train station parking lot. I *have pictures* (this is underlined in the original) Please, call me to resolve. ~~I will"~~ (this was indeed written and struck through) Below this is a phone number, the name on the paper, and 1/30/2019. I googled the phone number and it shows up as a landline, but the person whose name is on the paper did show up next to it in a Facebook posting. There is zero damage to my car. I've had fender-benders and minor paint scrapes before, and there is zero of anything that looks like I hit someone. Other than a paint chip the size of a quarter that's been on the front and center, off to the right, of the front bumper cover, there's absolutely nothing to indicate any kind of physical contact with anything else. My rims and tires are in fine shape without any scrapes more drastic than hitting a curb in the past. I have not called the number yet. My thoughts are that this is a mixup of some sort. How should I respond? My instinct is to use a Google Voice number that I don't use for anything other than throwaway stuff like Craigslist, job stuff, etc. It's not presently found on google and I can abandon it if I need to. I'd use a pseudonym, record the call, deny all knowledge of this, and ask her to either file a police report or open a claim with her insurance. My reason for the paranoia is that if she gets my real name, THAT is far less private. It smells like a scam, but at the bare minimum she has my license plate number, make, and model of my car. What's the best course of action here? | efereb5 | efex557 | 1,548,901,349 | 1,548,906,238 | 20 | 59 | Common scam. Any normal person would have called the cops. | Someone could actually have hit her car, saw the note when they got back to their car, then moved it over to yours so they wouldn't have to deal with it. If the person really needs evidence that you did it, then couldn't they just get security cam footage from the train station? I wouldn't call that number. | 0 | 4,889 | 2.95 |
alilqt | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | [NJ] Someone left a note under my windshield wiper that I damaged their bumper pulling into a parking space. That definitely never happened. How should I respond? This morning I drove to the train station and parked in a parking space without any incident. No weird noises, no impact, nothing. I turned off my engine and sat around for a few minutes catching up on Twitter, then caught my train. I went to work, and during the day, there was a snow squall that dropped maybe a bare 1/4" in the area. When I got back to my car, there was a note under the windshield, utterly untouched by any snow. It reads: "Hello you scraped (Badly) my bumper pulling into yor space, today at the %townnameredacted% train station parking lot. I *have pictures* (this is underlined in the original) Please, call me to resolve. ~~I will"~~ (this was indeed written and struck through) Below this is a phone number, the name on the paper, and 1/30/2019. I googled the phone number and it shows up as a landline, but the person whose name is on the paper did show up next to it in a Facebook posting. There is zero damage to my car. I've had fender-benders and minor paint scrapes before, and there is zero of anything that looks like I hit someone. Other than a paint chip the size of a quarter that's been on the front and center, off to the right, of the front bumper cover, there's absolutely nothing to indicate any kind of physical contact with anything else. My rims and tires are in fine shape without any scrapes more drastic than hitting a curb in the past. I have not called the number yet. My thoughts are that this is a mixup of some sort. How should I respond? My instinct is to use a Google Voice number that I don't use for anything other than throwaway stuff like Craigslist, job stuff, etc. It's not presently found on google and I can abandon it if I need to. I'd use a pseudonym, record the call, deny all knowledge of this, and ask her to either file a police report or open a claim with her insurance. My reason for the paranoia is that if she gets my real name, THAT is far less private. It smells like a scam, but at the bare minimum she has my license plate number, make, and model of my car. What's the best course of action here? | efereb5 | eff5qth | 1,548,901,349 | 1,548,914,582 | 20 | 21 | Common scam. Any normal person would have called the cops. | I had someone accuse me of swiping their car once. They followed me home and everything. I gave them my insurance info and went along with it because they confronted me in a parking lot and called the cops. Cops said it was a civil matter and didn’t do any paperwork or anything. When my insurance called me to “discuss” I just went out and took pictures of the absolute zero damage to my car in any way, shape, or form. My car was lime green. No way did I put a 2 foot black scratch. I didn’t hear anything after that. | 0 | 13,233 | 1.05 |
alilqt | legaladvice_train | 0.93 | [NJ] Someone left a note under my windshield wiper that I damaged their bumper pulling into a parking space. That definitely never happened. How should I respond? This morning I drove to the train station and parked in a parking space without any incident. No weird noises, no impact, nothing. I turned off my engine and sat around for a few minutes catching up on Twitter, then caught my train. I went to work, and during the day, there was a snow squall that dropped maybe a bare 1/4" in the area. When I got back to my car, there was a note under the windshield, utterly untouched by any snow. It reads: "Hello you scraped (Badly) my bumper pulling into yor space, today at the %townnameredacted% train station parking lot. I *have pictures* (this is underlined in the original) Please, call me to resolve. ~~I will"~~ (this was indeed written and struck through) Below this is a phone number, the name on the paper, and 1/30/2019. I googled the phone number and it shows up as a landline, but the person whose name is on the paper did show up next to it in a Facebook posting. There is zero damage to my car. I've had fender-benders and minor paint scrapes before, and there is zero of anything that looks like I hit someone. Other than a paint chip the size of a quarter that's been on the front and center, off to the right, of the front bumper cover, there's absolutely nothing to indicate any kind of physical contact with anything else. My rims and tires are in fine shape without any scrapes more drastic than hitting a curb in the past. I have not called the number yet. My thoughts are that this is a mixup of some sort. How should I respond? My instinct is to use a Google Voice number that I don't use for anything other than throwaway stuff like Craigslist, job stuff, etc. It's not presently found on google and I can abandon it if I need to. I'd use a pseudonym, record the call, deny all knowledge of this, and ask her to either file a police report or open a claim with her insurance. My reason for the paranoia is that if she gets my real name, THAT is far less private. It smells like a scam, but at the bare minimum she has my license plate number, make, and model of my car. What's the best course of action here? | efexv20 | eff5qth | 1,548,906,875 | 1,548,914,582 | 5 | 21 | Call your insurance to notify them about this and follow their advice. That’s what you pay them for. | I had someone accuse me of swiping their car once. They followed me home and everything. I gave them my insurance info and went along with it because they confronted me in a parking lot and called the cops. Cops said it was a civil matter and didn’t do any paperwork or anything. When my insurance called me to “discuss” I just went out and took pictures of the absolute zero damage to my car in any way, shape, or form. My car was lime green. No way did I put a 2 foot black scratch. I didn’t hear anything after that. | 0 | 7,707 | 4.2 |
nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0le5ye | h0lhjoa | 1,622,829,741 | 1,622,831,081 | 2 | 58 | ---
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0n4sen | h0le5ye | 1,622,859,757 | 1,622,829,741 | 27 | 2 | Not a lawyer but i've worked in and around auto salvage/accident recovery for years. Any damage in this case would be the responsibility of the tow company, but there is probably no actual damage and they're just trying to get money out of you to offset what they had to pay to get it out of the impound. (my opinion. this is pretty common, however.) Do nothing and say nothing, but keep records of everything said to you. | ---
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0oz016 | h0ov0nw | 1,622,906,097 | 1,622,904,134 | 13 | 10 | I am not a lawyer, but I am a wrecker driver and high up on the food chain in a tow company. If a vehicle is parked illegally and there are posted signs that it will get towed, then (assuming you called the company that's contracted with the complex) nothing that happened to it is on you. But I'm also in GA, so who knows how laws different | If the car was damaged when being towed for illegally parking in your spot. That is between them and the towing company, it is not your problem | 1 | 1,963 | 1.3 |
nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0oz016 | h0nelt3 | 1,622,906,097 | 1,622,865,318 | 13 | 8 | I am not a lawyer, but I am a wrecker driver and high up on the food chain in a tow company. If a vehicle is parked illegally and there are posted signs that it will get towed, then (assuming you called the company that's contracted with the complex) nothing that happened to it is on you. But I'm also in GA, so who knows how laws different | Are there Tow Away signs up? If there are, then by parking there illegally you are parking at your own risk. It should say that on the sign or verbage of "Illegally parked cars will be towed at the owners expense". Also Tow companies who do impounds usually have video equipment installed in the truck and the operator takes 8 pics. 4 before pick up and 4 at drop. We know the game people play. So we prepare for it. I've been a tow operator and owner for 22 years. | 1 | 40,779 | 1.625 |
nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0oz016 | h0le5ye | 1,622,906,097 | 1,622,829,741 | 13 | 2 | I am not a lawyer, but I am a wrecker driver and high up on the food chain in a tow company. If a vehicle is parked illegally and there are posted signs that it will get towed, then (assuming you called the company that's contracted with the complex) nothing that happened to it is on you. But I'm also in GA, so who knows how laws different | ---
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0nelt3 | h0ov0nw | 1,622,865,318 | 1,622,904,134 | 8 | 10 | Are there Tow Away signs up? If there are, then by parking there illegally you are parking at your own risk. It should say that on the sign or verbage of "Illegally parked cars will be towed at the owners expense". Also Tow companies who do impounds usually have video equipment installed in the truck and the operator takes 8 pics. 4 before pick up and 4 at drop. We know the game people play. So we prepare for it. I've been a tow operator and owner for 22 years. | If the car was damaged when being towed for illegally parking in your spot. That is between them and the towing company, it is not your problem | 0 | 38,816 | 1.25 |
nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0ov0nw | h0le5ye | 1,622,904,134 | 1,622,829,741 | 10 | 2 | If the car was damaged when being towed for illegally parking in your spot. That is between them and the towing company, it is not your problem | ---
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Title: **Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car.**
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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Title: **Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car.**
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0le5ye | h0p6i01 | 1,622,829,741 | 1,622,909,357 | 2 | 6 | ---
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Title: **Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car.**
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0pc4k3 | h0phq7q | 1,622,912,158 | 1,622,914,910 | 4 | 5 | I’d be most concerned about retribution. It’s a long and difficult process to accuse a tow COMPANY of damages, mostly because they have clauses that relieve them of all responsibility. I doubt you are even “blameable” through proxy, I’d be most concerned about that individual getting revenge | I’d say do nothing and keep ignoring. It’s your spot- you pay for it, you have the right to tow. Any damages done would need to be taken up with the towing company. However for that person it’ll be very hard to sue the towing company. If the person paid & signed for their car back from the company already I’m pretty sure they forfeited their right to sue from that point on. They’re 100% at fault imo. If you keep getting threatening letters, I would make a report with the police department and send a cease and desist letter. | 0 | 2,752 | 1.25 |
nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0le5ye | h0pc4k3 | 1,622,829,741 | 1,622,912,158 | 2 | 4 | ---
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0phq7q | h0ph3sk | 1,622,914,910 | 1,622,914,607 | 5 | 3 | I’d say do nothing and keep ignoring. It’s your spot- you pay for it, you have the right to tow. Any damages done would need to be taken up with the towing company. However for that person it’ll be very hard to sue the towing company. If the person paid & signed for their car back from the company already I’m pretty sure they forfeited their right to sue from that point on. They’re 100% at fault imo. If you keep getting threatening letters, I would make a report with the police department and send a cease and desist letter. | The damage to the car isn't your responsibility. You observed your rights to your rented property. If the car was damaged, then it is not your responsibility but on the towing company. They have insurance for this exact reasons. The towing company damage, the towing company responsible. | 1 | 303 | 1.666667 |
nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0le5ye | h0phq7q | 1,622,829,741 | 1,622,914,910 | 2 | 5 | ---
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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nsbcpm | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car. Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. I live in Florida by the way. A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to them. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! PLEASE HELP!!! | h0le5ye | h0ph3sk | 1,622,829,741 | 1,622,914,607 | 2 | 3 | ---
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Title: **Had someone's car towed, now they're accusing me of damaging their car.**
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> Hi there! I don't really know who to ask for help on this, so I thought I'd post on here. > > A couple of days ago someone was parked in my reserved spot at my apartments, and I ended up having to call a tow truck company and have them towed. I felt bad, but I pay for my spot and I waited for almost an hour for them to come and move it! > > The next day I saw a note on my car and the person who parked in my spot apologized and asked me to reach out to her. I was in a hurry, felt bad, and honestly didn't really want to talk with them so I kind of just ignored the note. > > Today, I found another note on my car saying that they "don't want to get the police involved" and that "vandalism of $1,000+ is a felony". I'm pretty sure they are implying that I have done damage to their car... which made me confused and kind of nervous... > > I swear I didn't do any damage to the car, just got their car towed, but do I call them and tell them that? or do I get a lawyer and stay silent? Am I going to have the police show up at my door? I am just stressing about this a lot because I don't want a felony or have to pay $1,000's to fix their car! > > PLEASE HELP!!!
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cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evct15p | evdfwsv | 1,564,422,630 | 1,564,437,279 | 11 | 21 | Not a lawyer, blah blah blah: Question 2. Find out how much the damage is, then find out how much your deductible is and if it covers vandalism/etc. There's a good chance your insurance rate will go up, so get estimates first. When calling your insurance company, tell them nothing at first...insurance companies have raised rates just for being called. Tell them you want to do a policy review and want to know how much your deductible, what's covered, etc. Just as when dealing with cops, don't lie but don't tell the insurance company anything they don't need to know. To answer question 3: California Penal Code Section 198.5: Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. Also: California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) do allow a jury to acquit someone based on a stand-your-ground defense. The instruction appears in CALCRIM #505 and #506, both of which deal with justifiable homicide: "A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily injury/<insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating." Speak to a lawyer for clarification but basically, if he breaks in you're 100% in the clear and shouldn't expect it to go to trial. If you're outside and he approaches, Juries are told that you have reason to fear for your safety and have no duty to retreat however it possibly could go to grand jury or trial in the event of death. 4: A lawyer would help with this question, but hopefully he would be denied bail due to the imminent danger/threat he poses. | You need to contact his probation officer, they can take file paperwork to revoke his probation and don’t need to involve the cops. | 0 | 14,649 | 1.909091 |
cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evdfwsv | evd1v1c | 1,564,437,279 | 1,564,428,252 | 21 | 3 | You need to contact his probation officer, they can take file paperwork to revoke his probation and don’t need to involve the cops. | https://www.reddit.com/user/ThrowawayThisIs987/, Not sure where in the bay area you are, but if I were you I'd put in an extra patrol request or similar with the law enforcement agency that took the report(s)/is responsible for your area. That agency really should be able to have a unit focus on your area at a minimum since the Gilroy incident presumably ended. Better yet, they could post a marked unit or even have a plain clothes/special detail sit on your residence. Edit: there's a biiig difference between just a ding dong ditcher, and someone willfully and unlawfully making forcible entry into a private residence where they are unwelcome. If the relevant agency either refuses or is unable to offer assistance to your satisfaction, contacting local, state, or even federal elected representatives can help get the ball rolling. **I am not a lawyer.** Regarding self defense, please see California Penal Code sections 197-199 (justifiable homicide). Section 198.5 (castle doctrine in CA) is particularly relevant: "Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant or substantial physical injury." | 1 | 9,027 | 7 |
cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evct15p | evdu4rb | 1,564,422,630 | 1,564,447,539 | 11 | 19 | Not a lawyer, blah blah blah: Question 2. Find out how much the damage is, then find out how much your deductible is and if it covers vandalism/etc. There's a good chance your insurance rate will go up, so get estimates first. When calling your insurance company, tell them nothing at first...insurance companies have raised rates just for being called. Tell them you want to do a policy review and want to know how much your deductible, what's covered, etc. Just as when dealing with cops, don't lie but don't tell the insurance company anything they don't need to know. To answer question 3: California Penal Code Section 198.5: Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. Also: California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) do allow a jury to acquit someone based on a stand-your-ground defense. The instruction appears in CALCRIM #505 and #506, both of which deal with justifiable homicide: "A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily injury/<insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating." Speak to a lawyer for clarification but basically, if he breaks in you're 100% in the clear and shouldn't expect it to go to trial. If you're outside and he approaches, Juries are told that you have reason to fear for your safety and have no duty to retreat however it possibly could go to grand jury or trial in the event of death. 4: A lawyer would help with this question, but hopefully he would be denied bail due to the imminent danger/threat he poses. | > Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? If he is an eminent threat to your life or someone elses then yes. I do NOT recommend restraining him. Besides the legal issues it is also very hard to physically restrain a person effectively without substantial training and harder to do so for the extended period of time it may take the police to arrive. https://www.aerlawgroup.com/california-self-defense-laws/ Please take your defense seriously. I recommend finding the most effective means of defense you can obtain (it isn't your fists). This person has now demonstrated that they will act violently toward you and your sister. This person may also seek to find out outside of your home. Remember that the police also have no duty to protect you. The Supreme Court has ruled on this numerous times. YOU are the only one truly responsible for your defense. Keep your head on a swivel and be aware of your surroundings. | 0 | 24,909 | 1.727273 |
cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evdqmwu | evdu4rb | 1,564,444,945 | 1,564,447,539 | 9 | 19 | >3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? As others have mentioned, you have the right to defend yourself, and you should review the laws related to that. However, you should be very careful about restraining / detaining someone. Every situation is different, but in general it is not a good idea to hold someone against their will, even if they are attacking you, unless it is the only way to stop the attack, and you're fairly certain you can do it without harm to yourself or others. When you restrain or detain someone, if the situation is not clearly one of avoiding attack or violence, your actions could be construed (and may actually) escalate the situation to the point that violence is the result. So, for example, if you restrain him, and then he becomes far more violent, and then you have to use deadly force, it could be perceived that deadly force was NOT warranted, and YOU escalated the situation to the point that HE needed to use force. In this case, you could be perceived as the aggressor. Again, every situation is different, so there's no hard/fast answer, but often "Leave! I will defend myself!" is better than trying to subdue / detain an aggressor. But you also need to be prepared to follow through, if it doesn't work. | > Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? If he is an eminent threat to your life or someone elses then yes. I do NOT recommend restraining him. Besides the legal issues it is also very hard to physically restrain a person effectively without substantial training and harder to do so for the extended period of time it may take the police to arrive. https://www.aerlawgroup.com/california-self-defense-laws/ Please take your defense seriously. I recommend finding the most effective means of defense you can obtain (it isn't your fists). This person has now demonstrated that they will act violently toward you and your sister. This person may also seek to find out outside of your home. Remember that the police also have no duty to protect you. The Supreme Court has ruled on this numerous times. YOU are the only one truly responsible for your defense. Keep your head on a swivel and be aware of your surroundings. | 0 | 2,594 | 2.111111 |
cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evd1v1c | evdu4rb | 1,564,428,252 | 1,564,447,539 | 3 | 19 | https://www.reddit.com/user/ThrowawayThisIs987/, Not sure where in the bay area you are, but if I were you I'd put in an extra patrol request or similar with the law enforcement agency that took the report(s)/is responsible for your area. That agency really should be able to have a unit focus on your area at a minimum since the Gilroy incident presumably ended. Better yet, they could post a marked unit or even have a plain clothes/special detail sit on your residence. Edit: there's a biiig difference between just a ding dong ditcher, and someone willfully and unlawfully making forcible entry into a private residence where they are unwelcome. If the relevant agency either refuses or is unable to offer assistance to your satisfaction, contacting local, state, or even federal elected representatives can help get the ball rolling. **I am not a lawyer.** Regarding self defense, please see California Penal Code sections 197-199 (justifiable homicide). Section 198.5 (castle doctrine in CA) is particularly relevant: "Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant or substantial physical injury." | > Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? If he is an eminent threat to your life or someone elses then yes. I do NOT recommend restraining him. Besides the legal issues it is also very hard to physically restrain a person effectively without substantial training and harder to do so for the extended period of time it may take the police to arrive. https://www.aerlawgroup.com/california-self-defense-laws/ Please take your defense seriously. I recommend finding the most effective means of defense you can obtain (it isn't your fists). This person has now demonstrated that they will act violently toward you and your sister. This person may also seek to find out outside of your home. Remember that the police also have no duty to protect you. The Supreme Court has ruled on this numerous times. YOU are the only one truly responsible for your defense. Keep your head on a swivel and be aware of your surroundings. | 0 | 19,287 | 6.333333 |
cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evdqmwu | evd1v1c | 1,564,444,945 | 1,564,428,252 | 9 | 3 | >3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? As others have mentioned, you have the right to defend yourself, and you should review the laws related to that. However, you should be very careful about restraining / detaining someone. Every situation is different, but in general it is not a good idea to hold someone against their will, even if they are attacking you, unless it is the only way to stop the attack, and you're fairly certain you can do it without harm to yourself or others. When you restrain or detain someone, if the situation is not clearly one of avoiding attack or violence, your actions could be construed (and may actually) escalate the situation to the point that violence is the result. So, for example, if you restrain him, and then he becomes far more violent, and then you have to use deadly force, it could be perceived that deadly force was NOT warranted, and YOU escalated the situation to the point that HE needed to use force. In this case, you could be perceived as the aggressor. Again, every situation is different, so there's no hard/fast answer, but often "Leave! I will defend myself!" is better than trying to subdue / detain an aggressor. But you also need to be prepared to follow through, if it doesn't work. | https://www.reddit.com/user/ThrowawayThisIs987/, Not sure where in the bay area you are, but if I were you I'd put in an extra patrol request or similar with the law enforcement agency that took the report(s)/is responsible for your area. That agency really should be able to have a unit focus on your area at a minimum since the Gilroy incident presumably ended. Better yet, they could post a marked unit or even have a plain clothes/special detail sit on your residence. Edit: there's a biiig difference between just a ding dong ditcher, and someone willfully and unlawfully making forcible entry into a private residence where they are unwelcome. If the relevant agency either refuses or is unable to offer assistance to your satisfaction, contacting local, state, or even federal elected representatives can help get the ball rolling. **I am not a lawyer.** Regarding self defense, please see California Penal Code sections 197-199 (justifiable homicide). Section 198.5 (castle doctrine in CA) is particularly relevant: "Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant or substantial physical injury." | 1 | 16,693 | 3 |
cj80pq | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | Update on my sister's crazy ex playing ding dong ditch CA, USA] [Old post here This literally happened a couple hours ago so emotions might be running high. I posted about a week or so ago that my sister's ex was ringing our doorbell and bothering us despite her having a restraining order. The cops have not been able to arrest him. He sporadically came to our house but not with any regularity. But he came this night and well, he finally went off the deep end. Order of events in numbered format: 1. Threw a hammer through the master bedroom window on the second floor. Didn't know it was a hammer until after the cops left. 2. Called the cops to come ASAP. 3. Proceeded to bang on our door and yell like a maniac, demanding I or my sister open the door. This lasted a good 10 minutes or so. We have video evidence of him at our front door via our Ring doorbell. 4. Took his car and rammed it into our patio fence and then into our garage door. Patio fence is still holding up but it's clear someone ran into it. The garage door was torn off. We don't have video footage of this since the Ring doorbell is on the other side of the house. 5. Once the garage door was torn off, he entered the garage and proceeded to bang on the door in the garage that would lead into the house. 6. Eventually leaves and the cops show up. We spend some time talking to the cops when the ex rolls up into the driveway. Immediately starts booking it when he sees the cop car. 7. The cops pursue but according to "policy" once the suspect starts running red lights and disobeying traffic rules they can't pursue farther because if the suspect were to crash into someone due to being chased by police, the police would be held liable. Which I understand the logic behind but it's very frustrating. And I think that's about the gist of it. Very unfortunate timing this happened today because the police force was extremely spread thin in the Bay Area today because of the shooting in Gilroy so they took quite a while to appear. So some questions I have lingering: 1. According to the cops, he has no warrant for his arrest yet. Is there anything we can do to get that done? 2. Obviously there's property damage that we have to address and I'm new to insurance shenanigans. I'm under the assumption that we take pictures of the damage, then call our home insurance to see if they cover it and if not, then tough beans we have to pay out of pocket. 3. Self-defense is always a tricky subject. If he breaks into the house, do I have the legal right to restrain him and even use deadly force if necessary? 4. The consensus among us is that even if we get him arrested, he might just be insane enough to come back when he's eventually arrested. When he is arrested, we are planning on using that time to buy time for us to sell the house and move. However, if we do move and he does proceed to damage the house when the new owners move in, would we be in any legal trouble? 5. Is there anything I could do that might help out in this situation? | evd1v1c | evduy2g | 1,564,428,252 | 1,564,448,144 | 3 | 4 | https://www.reddit.com/user/ThrowawayThisIs987/, Not sure where in the bay area you are, but if I were you I'd put in an extra patrol request or similar with the law enforcement agency that took the report(s)/is responsible for your area. That agency really should be able to have a unit focus on your area at a minimum since the Gilroy incident presumably ended. Better yet, they could post a marked unit or even have a plain clothes/special detail sit on your residence. Edit: there's a biiig difference between just a ding dong ditcher, and someone willfully and unlawfully making forcible entry into a private residence where they are unwelcome. If the relevant agency either refuses or is unable to offer assistance to your satisfaction, contacting local, state, or even federal elected representatives can help get the ball rolling. **I am not a lawyer.** Regarding self defense, please see California Penal Code sections 197-199 (justifiable homicide). Section 198.5 (castle doctrine in CA) is particularly relevant: "Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that force is used against another person, not a member of the family or household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred. As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant or substantial physical injury." | A warrant could take a little time for them to get, it is possible they are working on it. I would call and find out. If they can't answer any questions escalate it to someone hire up in the station. | 0 | 19,892 | 1.333333 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee4ok6 | geedvgl | 1,606,930,716 | 1,606,934,326 | 325 | 3,004 | You could try confronting the kids asking how it happened with video running in secret and see if they indicate that it was them. Is there any other possibility? Are there other kids biking around? To do anything really, you need some sort of evidence that can nail down responsibility. | Get pics of the tracks in your concrete as well as the kids' bike tires. | 0 | 3,610 | 9.243077 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geedvgl | gee5yt6 | 1,606,934,326 | 1,606,931,291 | 3,004 | 312 | Get pics of the tracks in your concrete as well as the kids' bike tires. | 1.) Put up a no-tresspassing sign in your yard and cameras pointing at your yard. 2.) If the kids try and enter your yard, you need to tell them they are not welcome and to leave. 3.) Call the police every time the kids try and enter your yard thereafter. If it continues more than a couple of times, call child and family services to indicate that kids are not being appropriately supervised. | 1 | 3,035 | 9.628205 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee5pwh | geedvgl | 1,606,931,203 | 1,606,934,326 | 57 | 3,004 | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | Get pics of the tracks in your concrete as well as the kids' bike tires. | 0 | 3,123 | 52.701754 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geenlr8 | gefjdai | 1,606,938,532 | 1,606,952,921 | 1,442 | 2,567 | Gut feel is if you replace it, they will just do it again. Kids of a certain age may intellectually understand an action is wrong, but haven't developed sufficient empathy to get why doing something wrong is bad rather than subversive or funny. So without parental reinforcement, they just keep causing mayhem. Trying to talk to them about it without any consequences will only inform them that their tactics are succeeding. From how you have described the parents, they won't give a rat's ass until it becomes personally painful to them, like being required to cover costs. You can ask, they'll probably say no, and then you get to decide whether you feel you have enough evidence to win a lawsuit. (Keep in mind that civil suits don't require proving something beyond a shadow of a doubt, just a preponderance of evidence. Your testimony is evidence but so is theirs; if any of your other neighbors have witnessed these disruptions, that could help.) If you decide to just redo it at your own expense, at least protect the area better. Put stakes on either side of the driveway and fence it in with temporary fencing. At least make the kids work harder to ride through it. Cones are more a social barrier than an actual barrier. Either way, make a police report. This starts your paper trail when these kids inevitably cause other issues for you. | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | 0 | 14,389 | 1.780166 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gefjdai | geeqye3 | 1,606,952,921 | 1,606,939,858 | 2,567 | 701 | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | Get good cameras now. This won't be the last of those kids. | 1 | 13,063 | 3.661912 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geehzdf | gefjdai | 1,606,936,039 | 1,606,952,921 | 331 | 2,567 | Call the police so you can make a police report. | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | 0 | 16,882 | 7.755287 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee4ok6 | gefjdai | 1,606,930,716 | 1,606,952,921 | 325 | 2,567 | You could try confronting the kids asking how it happened with video running in secret and see if they indicate that it was them. Is there any other possibility? Are there other kids biking around? To do anything really, you need some sort of evidence that can nail down responsibility. | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | 0 | 22,205 | 7.898462 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gefjdai | gee5yt6 | 1,606,952,921 | 1,606,931,291 | 2,567 | 312 | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | 1.) Put up a no-tresspassing sign in your yard and cameras pointing at your yard. 2.) If the kids try and enter your yard, you need to tell them they are not welcome and to leave. 3.) Call the police every time the kids try and enter your yard thereafter. If it continues more than a couple of times, call child and family services to indicate that kids are not being appropriately supervised. | 1 | 21,630 | 8.227564 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geevmq3 | gefjdai | 1,606,941,948 | 1,606,952,921 | 98 | 2,567 | Without actual footage or a witness of the incident, I agree with the other posters that carefully documenting the tracks is your best bet. You COULD have a conversation with the kids directly about what happened: engaging the parents at this point, as you state yourself, will likely not solve anything without direct evidence. However, I would urge you to avoid speaking to them UNLESS you record it. I gather it's not far out there to assume one or all of them may tell their parents you were harassing them, etc. I'm familiar with situations like this: the parents will absolutely point the finger at you. Record it to protect yourself and possibly get a "confession" assuming they actually did do it. Outside of that, unless they actually admit it, leave it be and save any documents from the original work as well as photos and the recording. And even if they DO.. I would consider avoiding the parents and wait for them to do something again (which they inevitably will). Which leads me to my next point.. Consider that if you actually do speak to them, you really need to get a camera. Even if you don't, situations like this can escalate fairly quickly. I worry that their shenanigans could cause a very serious accident in the future. At the same time, if they continue to cause property damage or harass you, you'll have visible proof in the event you go to small claims court. Get a video cam, redo the cement if you were planning to fix it, and I'm sure it'll capture the culprit(s). I personally know the hell of having neighbors like this. ​ Edited to fix typos. | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | 0 | 10,973 | 26.193878 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gefjdai | gef8sto | 1,606,952,921 | 1,606,947,920 | 2,567 | 99 | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | I am not a lawyer. I recommend phoning your homeowner's insurance company, explain the situation and see what they recommend. Without evidence, and indulgent parents, I'm afraid there's not much more to be done. Before you get new concrete, I would invest in a doorbell camera and a web connected camera, which you can focus on the concrete. If they've done it once, they'll do it again, but the next time you'll have evidence that you can use in small claims court to sue their parents - or give to your insurance company which will sue them in big court. One lawsuit and the parents will rein in their little brats. | 1 | 5,001 | 25.929293 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee5pwh | gefjdai | 1,606,931,203 | 1,606,952,921 | 57 | 2,567 | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | 0 | 21,718 | 45.035088 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gefjdai | geewyl9 | 1,606,952,921 | 1,606,942,541 | 2,567 | 30 | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | First: I am not a lawyer. Second, what kind of damages are we talking about? A few hundred bucks? $1000-2000 or more? I don't feel that calling the non-emergency police line would be beneficial unless you are willing to claim that you saw these specific kids riding their bikes across your sidewalk (which you didn't and would be lying to the police) or have other evidence (video, photo, or otherwise) tying them to this incident. My suggestion is to take photos of the damage done to your property, including close-up of the tracks and the cones set up to keep people away. Get an estimate of what it will cost to have the concrete repaired by the crew that was just out. Print that along with the pictures, and send it certified mail to the parents' house (and feel free to wait 1-2 weeks until you can be 100% certain that these kids did the damage with photo evidence). Also include a politely worded and brief letter explaining the situation and that you'd like them to cover the costs of the repairs. Something along the lines of "Hi Mr & Mrs. Jones. I recently had some exterior work done on my property including replacing plumbing and replacing the sidewalk that needed to be removed. This cost me approximately $4000. Before the cement was able to be dried, bikes were driven through the wet cement causing approximately $1000 in damages (see the attached invoice). It appears the tracks match the tires of your child(ren)'s bikes, and I've regularly seen them riding in my driveway. I respectfully request that you reimburse me for this damage within the next 30 days and we will consider the matter closed. Otherwise I may need to take further legal steps. You may reach me via mail at 1234 Fake Street, or via email at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) or text me at 202-555-1234." Next, document everything. Do not speak with them in person unless you have it on video. Even if the parents ignore the letter, at least it's a first step towards letting them know you're not a doormat for them & their kids to just walk all over. It's up to you whether you want to pursue further legal avenues. You can take them to small claims court, although proving it was \*these\* specific kids' bikes could be difficult unless you're willing to sit outside with a video camera and get images of the kids bikes & tires so you can prove their bikes were the ones that did the damage. I'm guessing the dollar amount of the damage was low enough that hiring a lawyer isn't something you want to do, plus I understand you don't want to raise a fuss in their neighborhood that you just moved into and don't really know any of your neighbors. Good luck. | 1 | 10,380 | 85.566667 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gefjdai | geff0lh | 1,606,952,921 | 1,606,950,923 | 2,567 | 21 | Separately from the concrete issue, you might want to get a dash cam, front and rear for your car. If they're riding directly at cars its only a matter of time until one of them gets hurt and you, or another driver, get blamed. | Do you have other neighbors? I'd ask around. If anyone say and could recognize them having been riding their bikes, would that not be sufficient in small claims if needed? | 1 | 1,998 | 122.238095 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geehzdf | geenlr8 | 1,606,936,039 | 1,606,938,532 | 331 | 1,442 | Call the police so you can make a police report. | Gut feel is if you replace it, they will just do it again. Kids of a certain age may intellectually understand an action is wrong, but haven't developed sufficient empathy to get why doing something wrong is bad rather than subversive or funny. So without parental reinforcement, they just keep causing mayhem. Trying to talk to them about it without any consequences will only inform them that their tactics are succeeding. From how you have described the parents, they won't give a rat's ass until it becomes personally painful to them, like being required to cover costs. You can ask, they'll probably say no, and then you get to decide whether you feel you have enough evidence to win a lawsuit. (Keep in mind that civil suits don't require proving something beyond a shadow of a doubt, just a preponderance of evidence. Your testimony is evidence but so is theirs; if any of your other neighbors have witnessed these disruptions, that could help.) If you decide to just redo it at your own expense, at least protect the area better. Put stakes on either side of the driveway and fence it in with temporary fencing. At least make the kids work harder to ride through it. Cones are more a social barrier than an actual barrier. Either way, make a police report. This starts your paper trail when these kids inevitably cause other issues for you. | 0 | 2,493 | 4.356495 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geenlr8 | gee4ok6 | 1,606,938,532 | 1,606,930,716 | 1,442 | 325 | Gut feel is if you replace it, they will just do it again. Kids of a certain age may intellectually understand an action is wrong, but haven't developed sufficient empathy to get why doing something wrong is bad rather than subversive or funny. So without parental reinforcement, they just keep causing mayhem. Trying to talk to them about it without any consequences will only inform them that their tactics are succeeding. From how you have described the parents, they won't give a rat's ass until it becomes personally painful to them, like being required to cover costs. You can ask, they'll probably say no, and then you get to decide whether you feel you have enough evidence to win a lawsuit. (Keep in mind that civil suits don't require proving something beyond a shadow of a doubt, just a preponderance of evidence. Your testimony is evidence but so is theirs; if any of your other neighbors have witnessed these disruptions, that could help.) If you decide to just redo it at your own expense, at least protect the area better. Put stakes on either side of the driveway and fence it in with temporary fencing. At least make the kids work harder to ride through it. Cones are more a social barrier than an actual barrier. Either way, make a police report. This starts your paper trail when these kids inevitably cause other issues for you. | You could try confronting the kids asking how it happened with video running in secret and see if they indicate that it was them. Is there any other possibility? Are there other kids biking around? To do anything really, you need some sort of evidence that can nail down responsibility. | 1 | 7,816 | 4.436923 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geenlr8 | gee5yt6 | 1,606,938,532 | 1,606,931,291 | 1,442 | 312 | Gut feel is if you replace it, they will just do it again. Kids of a certain age may intellectually understand an action is wrong, but haven't developed sufficient empathy to get why doing something wrong is bad rather than subversive or funny. So without parental reinforcement, they just keep causing mayhem. Trying to talk to them about it without any consequences will only inform them that their tactics are succeeding. From how you have described the parents, they won't give a rat's ass until it becomes personally painful to them, like being required to cover costs. You can ask, they'll probably say no, and then you get to decide whether you feel you have enough evidence to win a lawsuit. (Keep in mind that civil suits don't require proving something beyond a shadow of a doubt, just a preponderance of evidence. Your testimony is evidence but so is theirs; if any of your other neighbors have witnessed these disruptions, that could help.) If you decide to just redo it at your own expense, at least protect the area better. Put stakes on either side of the driveway and fence it in with temporary fencing. At least make the kids work harder to ride through it. Cones are more a social barrier than an actual barrier. Either way, make a police report. This starts your paper trail when these kids inevitably cause other issues for you. | 1.) Put up a no-tresspassing sign in your yard and cameras pointing at your yard. 2.) If the kids try and enter your yard, you need to tell them they are not welcome and to leave. 3.) Call the police every time the kids try and enter your yard thereafter. If it continues more than a couple of times, call child and family services to indicate that kids are not being appropriately supervised. | 1 | 7,241 | 4.621795 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geenlr8 | gee5pwh | 1,606,938,532 | 1,606,931,203 | 1,442 | 57 | Gut feel is if you replace it, they will just do it again. Kids of a certain age may intellectually understand an action is wrong, but haven't developed sufficient empathy to get why doing something wrong is bad rather than subversive or funny. So without parental reinforcement, they just keep causing mayhem. Trying to talk to them about it without any consequences will only inform them that their tactics are succeeding. From how you have described the parents, they won't give a rat's ass until it becomes personally painful to them, like being required to cover costs. You can ask, they'll probably say no, and then you get to decide whether you feel you have enough evidence to win a lawsuit. (Keep in mind that civil suits don't require proving something beyond a shadow of a doubt, just a preponderance of evidence. Your testimony is evidence but so is theirs; if any of your other neighbors have witnessed these disruptions, that could help.) If you decide to just redo it at your own expense, at least protect the area better. Put stakes on either side of the driveway and fence it in with temporary fencing. At least make the kids work harder to ride through it. Cones are more a social barrier than an actual barrier. Either way, make a police report. This starts your paper trail when these kids inevitably cause other issues for you. | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | 1 | 7,329 | 25.298246 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geehzdf | geeqye3 | 1,606,936,039 | 1,606,939,858 | 331 | 701 | Call the police so you can make a police report. | Get good cameras now. This won't be the last of those kids. | 0 | 3,819 | 2.117825 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geeqye3 | gee4ok6 | 1,606,939,858 | 1,606,930,716 | 701 | 325 | Get good cameras now. This won't be the last of those kids. | You could try confronting the kids asking how it happened with video running in secret and see if they indicate that it was them. Is there any other possibility? Are there other kids biking around? To do anything really, you need some sort of evidence that can nail down responsibility. | 1 | 9,142 | 2.156923 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee5yt6 | geeqye3 | 1,606,931,291 | 1,606,939,858 | 312 | 701 | 1.) Put up a no-tresspassing sign in your yard and cameras pointing at your yard. 2.) If the kids try and enter your yard, you need to tell them they are not welcome and to leave. 3.) Call the police every time the kids try and enter your yard thereafter. If it continues more than a couple of times, call child and family services to indicate that kids are not being appropriately supervised. | Get good cameras now. This won't be the last of those kids. | 0 | 8,567 | 2.246795 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee5pwh | geeqye3 | 1,606,931,203 | 1,606,939,858 | 57 | 701 | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | Get good cameras now. This won't be the last of those kids. | 0 | 8,655 | 12.298246 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee4ok6 | geehzdf | 1,606,930,716 | 1,606,936,039 | 325 | 331 | You could try confronting the kids asking how it happened with video running in secret and see if they indicate that it was them. Is there any other possibility? Are there other kids biking around? To do anything really, you need some sort of evidence that can nail down responsibility. | Call the police so you can make a police report. | 0 | 5,323 | 1.018462 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geehzdf | gee5yt6 | 1,606,936,039 | 1,606,931,291 | 331 | 312 | Call the police so you can make a police report. | 1.) Put up a no-tresspassing sign in your yard and cameras pointing at your yard. 2.) If the kids try and enter your yard, you need to tell them they are not welcome and to leave. 3.) Call the police every time the kids try and enter your yard thereafter. If it continues more than a couple of times, call child and family services to indicate that kids are not being appropriately supervised. | 1 | 4,748 | 1.060897 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geehzdf | gee5pwh | 1,606,936,039 | 1,606,931,203 | 331 | 57 | Call the police so you can make a police report. | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | 1 | 4,836 | 5.807018 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee5pwh | gee5yt6 | 1,606,931,203 | 1,606,931,291 | 57 | 312 | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | 1.) Put up a no-tresspassing sign in your yard and cameras pointing at your yard. 2.) If the kids try and enter your yard, you need to tell them they are not welcome and to leave. 3.) Call the police every time the kids try and enter your yard thereafter. If it continues more than a couple of times, call child and family services to indicate that kids are not being appropriately supervised. | 0 | 88 | 5.473684 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gef8sto | geevmq3 | 1,606,947,920 | 1,606,941,948 | 99 | 98 | I am not a lawyer. I recommend phoning your homeowner's insurance company, explain the situation and see what they recommend. Without evidence, and indulgent parents, I'm afraid there's not much more to be done. Before you get new concrete, I would invest in a doorbell camera and a web connected camera, which you can focus on the concrete. If they've done it once, they'll do it again, but the next time you'll have evidence that you can use in small claims court to sue their parents - or give to your insurance company which will sue them in big court. One lawsuit and the parents will rein in their little brats. | Without actual footage or a witness of the incident, I agree with the other posters that carefully documenting the tracks is your best bet. You COULD have a conversation with the kids directly about what happened: engaging the parents at this point, as you state yourself, will likely not solve anything without direct evidence. However, I would urge you to avoid speaking to them UNLESS you record it. I gather it's not far out there to assume one or all of them may tell their parents you were harassing them, etc. I'm familiar with situations like this: the parents will absolutely point the finger at you. Record it to protect yourself and possibly get a "confession" assuming they actually did do it. Outside of that, unless they actually admit it, leave it be and save any documents from the original work as well as photos and the recording. And even if they DO.. I would consider avoiding the parents and wait for them to do something again (which they inevitably will). Which leads me to my next point.. Consider that if you actually do speak to them, you really need to get a camera. Even if you don't, situations like this can escalate fairly quickly. I worry that their shenanigans could cause a very serious accident in the future. At the same time, if they continue to cause property damage or harass you, you'll have visible proof in the event you go to small claims court. Get a video cam, redo the cement if you were planning to fix it, and I'm sure it'll capture the culprit(s). I personally know the hell of having neighbors like this. ​ Edited to fix typos. | 1 | 5,972 | 1.010204 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | geevmq3 | gee5pwh | 1,606,941,948 | 1,606,931,203 | 98 | 57 | Without actual footage or a witness of the incident, I agree with the other posters that carefully documenting the tracks is your best bet. You COULD have a conversation with the kids directly about what happened: engaging the parents at this point, as you state yourself, will likely not solve anything without direct evidence. However, I would urge you to avoid speaking to them UNLESS you record it. I gather it's not far out there to assume one or all of them may tell their parents you were harassing them, etc. I'm familiar with situations like this: the parents will absolutely point the finger at you. Record it to protect yourself and possibly get a "confession" assuming they actually did do it. Outside of that, unless they actually admit it, leave it be and save any documents from the original work as well as photos and the recording. And even if they DO.. I would consider avoiding the parents and wait for them to do something again (which they inevitably will). Which leads me to my next point.. Consider that if you actually do speak to them, you really need to get a camera. Even if you don't, situations like this can escalate fairly quickly. I worry that their shenanigans could cause a very serious accident in the future. At the same time, if they continue to cause property damage or harass you, you'll have visible proof in the event you go to small claims court. Get a video cam, redo the cement if you were planning to fix it, and I'm sure it'll capture the culprit(s). I personally know the hell of having neighbors like this. ​ Edited to fix typos. | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | 1 | 10,745 | 1.719298 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gee5pwh | gef8sto | 1,606,931,203 | 1,606,947,920 | 57 | 99 | Out of curiosity, where was this freshly poured concrete? On your property? | I am not a lawyer. I recommend phoning your homeowner's insurance company, explain the situation and see what they recommend. Without evidence, and indulgent parents, I'm afraid there's not much more to be done. Before you get new concrete, I would invest in a doorbell camera and a web connected camera, which you can focus on the concrete. If they've done it once, they'll do it again, but the next time you'll have evidence that you can use in small claims court to sue their parents - or give to your insurance company which will sue them in big court. One lawsuit and the parents will rein in their little brats. | 0 | 16,717 | 1.736842 |
k5dryg | legaladvice_train | 0.98 | [AR] Neighbor’s kids rode their bikes through my freshly poured concrete. So I am new to this area, moved in late September. I have not met any of the neighbors, as I am trying to respect their safety with Covid, and honestly, I’m antisocial lol. There’s these kids (3-4 of them depending on the day) around the ages of 10/11 a few houses down who are always out riding bikes and doing kid stuff. They’ve ding dong ditched me a couple times, ride in my yard/driveway daily, and attempt to block my vehicle with their bikes coming to and from my home, I guess as a joke. These aren’t major issues for me, I just smile and wave as I am super easy going. Well, yesterday I had a very expensive plumbing job finished up with new concrete poured. Orange caution cones surrounding the repair and everything. Got home that evening and it looked great, was actually excited with how good they did. Woke up this morning to it not exactly ruined, but looks terrible. There’s bike tire tracks zig zagging all through it, it was done right at the point the concrete was almost finished drying so it’s not deep, just about a quarter inch of the surface is just destroyed. I do not have cameras, but I have a good idea who did it. I also know the parents of the culprits will not care. They enable the behavior by watching and laughing as their kids ride bikes towards moving vehicles. I’m honestly at a loss on this one, I was told not to approach the parent’s home in case they claim I am trespassing. I planned to approach them in a very civil and respectful manner, but it’s hard knowing they very likely will not care and could actually get me in trouble. I’m 22 years old, first time home owner, and grew up on a farm with no neighbors. This is all new to me, I’m considering just fixing it and crossing my fingers they don’t do it again. My fiancé is much less calm about it, she views this as crossing the line, I am also leaning towards this being over the top. My end goal: fix this at my expense but prevent them from doing it again. So...any advice Reddit? Do I call the non emergency line, document it, and hope for the best? | gef8sto | geewyl9 | 1,606,947,920 | 1,606,942,541 | 99 | 30 | I am not a lawyer. I recommend phoning your homeowner's insurance company, explain the situation and see what they recommend. Without evidence, and indulgent parents, I'm afraid there's not much more to be done. Before you get new concrete, I would invest in a doorbell camera and a web connected camera, which you can focus on the concrete. If they've done it once, they'll do it again, but the next time you'll have evidence that you can use in small claims court to sue their parents - or give to your insurance company which will sue them in big court. One lawsuit and the parents will rein in their little brats. | First: I am not a lawyer. Second, what kind of damages are we talking about? A few hundred bucks? $1000-2000 or more? I don't feel that calling the non-emergency police line would be beneficial unless you are willing to claim that you saw these specific kids riding their bikes across your sidewalk (which you didn't and would be lying to the police) or have other evidence (video, photo, or otherwise) tying them to this incident. My suggestion is to take photos of the damage done to your property, including close-up of the tracks and the cones set up to keep people away. Get an estimate of what it will cost to have the concrete repaired by the crew that was just out. Print that along with the pictures, and send it certified mail to the parents' house (and feel free to wait 1-2 weeks until you can be 100% certain that these kids did the damage with photo evidence). Also include a politely worded and brief letter explaining the situation and that you'd like them to cover the costs of the repairs. Something along the lines of "Hi Mr & Mrs. Jones. I recently had some exterior work done on my property including replacing plumbing and replacing the sidewalk that needed to be removed. This cost me approximately $4000. Before the cement was able to be dried, bikes were driven through the wet cement causing approximately $1000 in damages (see the attached invoice). It appears the tracks match the tires of your child(ren)'s bikes, and I've regularly seen them riding in my driveway. I respectfully request that you reimburse me for this damage within the next 30 days and we will consider the matter closed. Otherwise I may need to take further legal steps. You may reach me via mail at 1234 Fake Street, or via email at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) or text me at 202-555-1234." Next, document everything. Do not speak with them in person unless you have it on video. Even if the parents ignore the letter, at least it's a first step towards letting them know you're not a doormat for them & their kids to just walk all over. It's up to you whether you want to pursue further legal avenues. You can take them to small claims court, although proving it was \*these\* specific kids' bikes could be difficult unless you're willing to sit outside with a video camera and get images of the kids bikes & tires so you can prove their bikes were the ones that did the damage. I'm guessing the dollar amount of the damage was low enough that hiring a lawyer isn't something you want to do, plus I understand you don't want to raise a fuss in their neighborhood that you just moved into and don't really know any of your neighbors. Good luck. | 1 | 5,379 | 3.3 |
vxl0s0 | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Need advice about a possible cat genocide, and I think my HOA has lost their damn minds. I live in a community where the HOA has always been very strict but usually I stay out of the drama and literally mail my vote in with a proxy vote. However, someone called me at home Sunday and I really don't know what to think.. They were very upset about a new manager they hired to simply keep sticks and leaves out of the pool between visits from the pool guy and keep the patio furniture clean and in good repair for 650 a month and free rent. They have nicknamed her Putin and somehow she has taken a lot more responsibility on than what was required. When I first moved here it was to escape the city and have animals around. There are ducks, turtles, and forest creatures and for 15 years these two elderly ladies have fed stray cats. One is terminally ill, it's literally her purpose. People that live here usually like animals because they are part of every day life including the occasional crocodile wandering about. We aren't talking a hoard of stray cats, there are precisely three. The manager, I'm told hates cats and all animals and has been harassing the ladies to take them to the shelter. They removed their flowers from the flower bed because she said "cats spread feline leukemia and covid" and removed all their mulch and won't permit the cats any more dishes. A camera was placed across the street and they were told to not feed stray cats. I can't find anything in the governing documents or in Florida law about stray cats. We only have a rule to not have pets over 25 pounds. The ladies were so upset and kept going on about how they would kill the cats. The lady they hired was annoyed with the ducks and turtles too. (The ducks fly into the pool sometimes and the kids sometimes sneak the occasional sticker to the back of the turtles and race them ) She has hung wire to prevent them from getting in the pool and a duck hung themselves causing a German tourist to get pretty traumatized. There are now rat traps everywhere presenting a safety hazard and we have no rat problems because of..... the cats. Like no one has ever reported to her one single rat. Our area of the lake is a nature preserve, shouldn't there be some kind of protection at least for the ducks, turtles and water creatures? I would be happy to adopt the cats, but I'm allergic. She has somehow taken a really easy job and complicated it but has swung half of the voters and I'm not sure how I can help, but I want to help. Can they legally do this? | ifwos54 | ifwsyjc | 1,657,660,110 | 1,657,661,796 | 34 | 82 | Some cities in Florida do have ordinances about feeding strays (for example, Jacksonville has a weird one) but I don’t think there is a state law. You’ll have to check your local codes. | Check and see if your CCRs say anything about your responsibility being by the nature preserve. There may be something about leaving the wildlife be, which would address the rat traps. On the issue of a property manager (is that her role?) overstepping, that is a board issue. The HOA subreddit might be helpful, as well. Lastly, you could contact a local TNR group and see if they have advice or knowledge of the laws for you. Pet Alliance and Spay the Strays are good ones in the area. | 0 | 1,686 | 2.411765 |
vxl0s0 | legaladvice_train | 0.89 | Need advice about a possible cat genocide, and I think my HOA has lost their damn minds. I live in a community where the HOA has always been very strict but usually I stay out of the drama and literally mail my vote in with a proxy vote. However, someone called me at home Sunday and I really don't know what to think.. They were very upset about a new manager they hired to simply keep sticks and leaves out of the pool between visits from the pool guy and keep the patio furniture clean and in good repair for 650 a month and free rent. They have nicknamed her Putin and somehow she has taken a lot more responsibility on than what was required. When I first moved here it was to escape the city and have animals around. There are ducks, turtles, and forest creatures and for 15 years these two elderly ladies have fed stray cats. One is terminally ill, it's literally her purpose. People that live here usually like animals because they are part of every day life including the occasional crocodile wandering about. We aren't talking a hoard of stray cats, there are precisely three. The manager, I'm told hates cats and all animals and has been harassing the ladies to take them to the shelter. They removed their flowers from the flower bed because she said "cats spread feline leukemia and covid" and removed all their mulch and won't permit the cats any more dishes. A camera was placed across the street and they were told to not feed stray cats. I can't find anything in the governing documents or in Florida law about stray cats. We only have a rule to not have pets over 25 pounds. The ladies were so upset and kept going on about how they would kill the cats. The lady they hired was annoyed with the ducks and turtles too. (The ducks fly into the pool sometimes and the kids sometimes sneak the occasional sticker to the back of the turtles and race them ) She has hung wire to prevent them from getting in the pool and a duck hung themselves causing a German tourist to get pretty traumatized. There are now rat traps everywhere presenting a safety hazard and we have no rat problems because of..... the cats. Like no one has ever reported to her one single rat. Our area of the lake is a nature preserve, shouldn't there be some kind of protection at least for the ducks, turtles and water creatures? I would be happy to adopt the cats, but I'm allergic. She has somehow taken a really easy job and complicated it but has swung half of the voters and I'm not sure how I can help, but I want to help. Can they legally do this? | ify2byo | ifwos54 | 1,657,682,104 | 1,657,660,110 | 40 | 34 | Re: the ducks, you should contact whoever manages the nature preserve and consider involving your local Audubon, migratory birds are protected and if wire killed a duck then that’s definitely an issue | Some cities in Florida do have ordinances about feeding strays (for example, Jacksonville has a weird one) but I don’t think there is a state law. You’ll have to check your local codes. | 1 | 21,994 | 1.176471 |
upqmle | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Accidentally sold alcohol to a minor after being told not to card customers. Today was my first job at my local baseball stadium, I was a cashier at one of the food vendors. A vendor that sells a lot of alcohol. Within maybe 20 minutes of working, my boss pulled me aside and verbally berated me, telling me we don't have time to card every individual coming through, just use good judgemen. If I can't make good judgement, this isnt the job for me. Which immediately was a huge red flag, but I decided to work the rest of the day and not leave the team hanging, them already being short staffed. That and the job was 15 an hour plus tips. Low behold 3 customers later I accidentally sold alcohol to a minor. And within 5 minutes of selling, the very angry parents came up demanding to know why their 20 year old daughter was allowed to buy a White Claw. And the only thing I could do was throw my boss under the bus, cause he said, not to card people, because the process took too long or something stupid. Then my boss came out and flipped out on me, and made the whole situation seem like it was my fault, and that he never said anything like that. When one of my co workers started to stand up for me, my boss told her to shut up, or she was gonna be a part of this. My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. I wad told there are serious consequences to my actions. So there are warnings all around the stadium about audio and video monitoring is occurring at all times, but I don't know if any of the altercation was recorded, if our conversation was recorded, or if my boss is out there intimidating my co workers into shutting their mouths. So how screwed am I right now. I know state laws are pretty strict on selling alcohol to minors, but I was literally told dont card or lose your job, then physically assaulted and now I'm being held against my will. And I have to pee so bad I'm thinking about pissing in his fake plant in the corner. I'll update the situation as time goes on. | i8mp9ra | i8mg25j | 1,652,568,644 | 1,652,564,334 | 5,974 | 3,297 | >My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. That would be assault and false imprisonment. | Are you able to leave? If not, simply call 911 and ask for help because you're being confined against your will. It is *insanely* important that you call right now. Also report that he grabbed you by the neck and forced you into the room/shoved you/etc. When the police show up, you're under no obligation to speak to them about the White Claw. Feel free to tell them that you aren't talking about anything other than your false imprisonment. | 1 | 4,310 | 1.81195 |
upqmle | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Accidentally sold alcohol to a minor after being told not to card customers. Today was my first job at my local baseball stadium, I was a cashier at one of the food vendors. A vendor that sells a lot of alcohol. Within maybe 20 minutes of working, my boss pulled me aside and verbally berated me, telling me we don't have time to card every individual coming through, just use good judgemen. If I can't make good judgement, this isnt the job for me. Which immediately was a huge red flag, but I decided to work the rest of the day and not leave the team hanging, them already being short staffed. That and the job was 15 an hour plus tips. Low behold 3 customers later I accidentally sold alcohol to a minor. And within 5 minutes of selling, the very angry parents came up demanding to know why their 20 year old daughter was allowed to buy a White Claw. And the only thing I could do was throw my boss under the bus, cause he said, not to card people, because the process took too long or something stupid. Then my boss came out and flipped out on me, and made the whole situation seem like it was my fault, and that he never said anything like that. When one of my co workers started to stand up for me, my boss told her to shut up, or she was gonna be a part of this. My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. I wad told there are serious consequences to my actions. So there are warnings all around the stadium about audio and video monitoring is occurring at all times, but I don't know if any of the altercation was recorded, if our conversation was recorded, or if my boss is out there intimidating my co workers into shutting their mouths. So how screwed am I right now. I know state laws are pretty strict on selling alcohol to minors, but I was literally told dont card or lose your job, then physically assaulted and now I'm being held against my will. And I have to pee so bad I'm thinking about pissing in his fake plant in the corner. I'll update the situation as time goes on. | i8mo3c6 | i8mp9ra | 1,652,568,091 | 1,652,568,644 | 846 | 5,974 | Not a lawyer. Very few entities are able to legally detain you, especially not your employer. Always call the police if you are being held against your will. On the selling note, it is always best to follow written company policy. Many businesses have rules that you agree to when you get hired, but in day-to-day work get overlooked. If policy says something, do it, such as carding those under 40, or carding everyone, etc. Lastly, when asked to use your best judgement, you have to do that. At a former restaurant, I had an employee card everyone who wanted a military discount...even someone in full military uniform...and we live in a military town. Our policy was that you **should** verify. In your case, there's no excuse to sell alcohol to someone that was 20 years old. When given leeway, you must use your best judgement. | >My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. That would be assault and false imprisonment. | 0 | 553 | 7.061466 |
upqmle | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Accidentally sold alcohol to a minor after being told not to card customers. Today was my first job at my local baseball stadium, I was a cashier at one of the food vendors. A vendor that sells a lot of alcohol. Within maybe 20 minutes of working, my boss pulled me aside and verbally berated me, telling me we don't have time to card every individual coming through, just use good judgemen. If I can't make good judgement, this isnt the job for me. Which immediately was a huge red flag, but I decided to work the rest of the day and not leave the team hanging, them already being short staffed. That and the job was 15 an hour plus tips. Low behold 3 customers later I accidentally sold alcohol to a minor. And within 5 minutes of selling, the very angry parents came up demanding to know why their 20 year old daughter was allowed to buy a White Claw. And the only thing I could do was throw my boss under the bus, cause he said, not to card people, because the process took too long or something stupid. Then my boss came out and flipped out on me, and made the whole situation seem like it was my fault, and that he never said anything like that. When one of my co workers started to stand up for me, my boss told her to shut up, or she was gonna be a part of this. My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. I wad told there are serious consequences to my actions. So there are warnings all around the stadium about audio and video monitoring is occurring at all times, but I don't know if any of the altercation was recorded, if our conversation was recorded, or if my boss is out there intimidating my co workers into shutting their mouths. So how screwed am I right now. I know state laws are pretty strict on selling alcohol to minors, but I was literally told dont card or lose your job, then physically assaulted and now I'm being held against my will. And I have to pee so bad I'm thinking about pissing in his fake plant in the corner. I'll update the situation as time goes on. | i8mp9ra | i8mhb2y | 1,652,568,644 | 1,652,564,912 | 5,974 | 401 | >My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. That would be assault and false imprisonment. | Please call 911 and get off reddit. State where you are, what food vendor you are at and that your manager has locked you into a room you cannot get out of and you are panicking. The unlawfully being held against your will > selling the white claw. | 1 | 3,732 | 14.897756 |
upqmle | legaladvice_train | 0.96 | Accidentally sold alcohol to a minor after being told not to card customers. Today was my first job at my local baseball stadium, I was a cashier at one of the food vendors. A vendor that sells a lot of alcohol. Within maybe 20 minutes of working, my boss pulled me aside and verbally berated me, telling me we don't have time to card every individual coming through, just use good judgemen. If I can't make good judgement, this isnt the job for me. Which immediately was a huge red flag, but I decided to work the rest of the day and not leave the team hanging, them already being short staffed. That and the job was 15 an hour plus tips. Low behold 3 customers later I accidentally sold alcohol to a minor. And within 5 minutes of selling, the very angry parents came up demanding to know why their 20 year old daughter was allowed to buy a White Claw. And the only thing I could do was throw my boss under the bus, cause he said, not to card people, because the process took too long or something stupid. Then my boss came out and flipped out on me, and made the whole situation seem like it was my fault, and that he never said anything like that. When one of my co workers started to stand up for me, my boss told her to shut up, or she was gonna be a part of this. My boss told the parents this will be dealt with, he then grabbed my by the back of tje neck like a dog, and yanked me into the back room, into his office, shoved me into the corner of his office, where I've now been waiting for 45 minutes for nothing to happen, with the door locked from the outside. I wad told there are serious consequences to my actions. So there are warnings all around the stadium about audio and video monitoring is occurring at all times, but I don't know if any of the altercation was recorded, if our conversation was recorded, or if my boss is out there intimidating my co workers into shutting their mouths. So how screwed am I right now. I know state laws are pretty strict on selling alcohol to minors, but I was literally told dont card or lose your job, then physically assaulted and now I'm being held against my will. And I have to pee so bad I'm thinking about pissing in his fake plant in the corner. I'll update the situation as time goes on. | i8mo3c6 | i8mhb2y | 1,652,568,091 | 1,652,564,912 | 846 | 401 | Not a lawyer. Very few entities are able to legally detain you, especially not your employer. Always call the police if you are being held against your will. On the selling note, it is always best to follow written company policy. Many businesses have rules that you agree to when you get hired, but in day-to-day work get overlooked. If policy says something, do it, such as carding those under 40, or carding everyone, etc. Lastly, when asked to use your best judgement, you have to do that. At a former restaurant, I had an employee card everyone who wanted a military discount...even someone in full military uniform...and we live in a military town. Our policy was that you **should** verify. In your case, there's no excuse to sell alcohol to someone that was 20 years old. When given leeway, you must use your best judgement. | Please call 911 and get off reddit. State where you are, what food vendor you are at and that your manager has locked you into a room you cannot get out of and you are panicking. The unlawfully being held against your will > selling the white claw. | 1 | 3,179 | 2.109726 |
6g8d0q | legaladvice_train | 0.87 | (VA) Employer told unemployment commission I voluntarily left my job 3 months after being fired and I'm not sure what to do. Okay at the end of January my supervisor(who is the bosses nephew) took my W2 form and refused to return it after my sister dumped him. I threatened legal action and he begrudgingly gave it back and immediately after that I stopped being scheduled and my boss stopped answering my calls. About a week after that the douche texted me saying he was glad I was fired and he hopes my family becomes homeless as I was the only one working at the time. Now fast forward to today I received a letter for a fact finding interview because the boss said I left voluntarily but I had deleted the texts proving I was fired about a month ago(I thought I was done dealing with them and didn't want to read the other nasty things he said about me and my family). Im not sure what I can do. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to read this. | diogx3v | dio9xw1 | 1,497,024,533 | 1,497,016,570 | 8 | 3 | My friend had a similar situation. He called his former boss and asking why he told them he quit when he was really fired. My friend ended up catching him in a whole tom of lies. Lucky for him, he had the whole conversation recorded and is going to play it when he has his next interview this week. | Contact cell service provider and ask for a record of your texts. And depending on phone you could possibly have those texts saved somewhere you're not aware of, Google your phone and "retrieve deleted texts" to see. | 1 | 7,963 | 2.666667 |
x8xcn2 | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | my signature has been forged on a document at work A couple of days ago I was injured at work, twice. I have an impact injury to my hand and also fell down a hole causing lacerations to my leg. Upon returning to work today after having one day off I reviewed our sign on/off sheets which we sign every day upon starting with our start time, temperature and blood alcohol level. We initial after our start time and to attest to our temp and bac and then at the end of the day we put in our finish time and Wether we have sustained an injury then initial again. I didn't sign out for time on the day I was injured and didn't fill out if I was injured or not or initial. When I looked at it today someone has booked me out at a false time, declared I wasn't injured and then forged my initial. What is my best course of action here? I have confronted my superintendent and the director of the company about this and we have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning. I work in construction in Australia. | inl275g | inko9lx | 1,662,642,836 | 1,662,635,382 | 160 | 41 | I’d go to the meeting first and foremost. Then bring up these issues with them. I’d also request A union rep to be present during this. I’d would not even bother going to the meeting without union representation. Aussie as well here. If you work construction you should be part of the cmfeu. They will deal with it on your behalf. DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING AT ALL, without a union rep present | /r/AusLegal | 1 | 7,454 | 3.902439 |
3yuk25 | legaladvice_train | 0.99 | [Missouri] Grandpa passed away, but left no will. His girlfriend locked the doors and claims everything is hers since it's in her house. Help? My grandpa passed away a little while ago. He had a long-term girlfriend, but they never married for financial reasons. His girlfriend owns the house that they lived in before he passed, and from what his girlfriend says, he did not have a will. The girlfriend was friendly and cooperative while he was still alive, but as soon as he died she locked her doors and cut off contact with our family, stating that everything in the house was hers. She went as far as to tell her neighbors to "call the cops if you see anyone at the house who isn't hispanic", explaining that we were trying to steal from her. All of my grandpa's worldly possessions (minus his truck, which was titled and registered in only his name) are trapped inside her house. I'm afraid that she will sell off all of his possessions or distribute them among her family. There are many items that have sentimental value to us that we would like to keep in the family. Is there any legal action I could take to get back, if nothing more, a couple of things that we have memories of? | cygr6ml | cygqulm | 1,451,521,752 | 1,451,521,173 | 212 | 93 | With no will everything goes to his children . Get a probate lawyer. Keep track of bank accounts, IRA, truck, etc. | Yes, you can hire a probate attorney to help you collect his property via the court system. Absent a will, everything passes by intestate succession. If he's not married, it all goes to his children in equal shares. | 1 | 579 | 2.27957 |
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