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Shahid S: Hi! Vick! Hello!
Vivek: Hey, Shahid?
Vivek: Okay, I made it on time. I didn't expect
Vivek: traffic was easy. Okay.
Vivek: So
Vivek: yeah, let's talk about
Vivek: yeah, we don't necessarily have to. Okay. I saw your. I was
Vivek: reading your message. You were saying that you don't have anything to say. Say.
Vivek: Oh.
Vivek: but okay.
Shahid S: The projects. Like, what I was thinking about the project. We can talk on that if you want.
Shahid S: So yeah.
Vivek: Which project.
Shahid S: I mean the chat tool.
Shahid S: the task manager role.
Vivek: Okay. But but before we get there you have all the list of things which I have given you right? We have like lot of things we we are going on. We have going on. So I need you to have that. And I would like you to lead, and you know, bring that back to me, because
Vivek: I'm already occupied with lot of other things. So I would like you to take lead on all of those things and make sure that you are on top of that, and also.
Vivek: make that as a priority, like how not like a full solution.
Vivek: a sort of solution where where we both are.
Vivek: on the same page, so that we don't want to get into that, Miss Confusion, or, you know, miscommunication. Where
Vivek: of of
Vivek: I assume that. Hey? That was priority
Vivek: and that did not get delivered on time or things like that. So for that reason have that like how you want me.
Vivek: how you want to keep me posted so that I know that you are on top of everything.
Vivek: because, that's the 1st thing we want to get out of our way, because that has caused a lot of friction
Vivek: and
Vivek: past couple of weeks. It was not in the beginning. Because
Vivek: but yeah, we are. We are getting better. It. It will get better. But we need to have some sort of communication
Vivek: method and process, so that
Vivek: we both are on top of everything, and also
Vivek: I know what you're doing.
Vivek: and you know what's the most important thing, and if you have any questions blockers, you will directly let me know.
Vivek: and we will also try to optimize our time when we connect so that you know
Vivek: we we, we are getting most thing done. It's not like we have to get on call every time for everything. So
Vivek: with that go ahead.
Shahid S: Yeah. So basically, our priority right now, bony plants is bony plants is done.
Shahid S: The next one comes is the upload thing right? Washington government project.
Shahid S: So it's I've sent it for the review and all those questions. I've sent it to the upload team, and also
Shahid S: along with that, I have to also talk about that new Rtf. S. 3 r. 3. Alarm.
Shahid S: On it. Right? Yeah. So I want, I've asked for their input. Once they are ready on that, we'll discuss about it, and we'll get back to you regarding what our solution or what their solution looks like. I went through it.
Vivek: Come, but
Vivek: sounds great. Sounds great. One thing, I will add. Just make sure to send a reminder every day like, Hey, what's going on what's up. You know that like that, you just cannot wait for them to come back to you or come back to us. Because.
Vivek: yeah, it's a human nature, you know, people forget. So you have to remind them.
Vivek: So just do that task. Okay, okay.
Shahid S: Yeah, I'll make sure that this applore review thing gets done. Washington State Government Review get done. Is the volume we have still 2 days. Right? So yeah.
Vivek: Yeah.
Shahid S: And after that we'll work with this s. 3 r, 3, Rpf solution. Regarding this 3 website, redesigning marketing and research strategy
Shahid S: on those 3. We'll talk about it
Shahid S: uploading
Shahid S: contact.
Vivek: Yeah. Have you looked at the deadline? I think it's sometime in November, right.
Shahid S: Yeah.
Vivek: Okay, so have a a high level roadmap key. By 15th of November we need to have 1st draft
Vivek: by 20.th We need to have second draft, and by 30th we need to have like so create a milestone like based on that and have a high level idea. Give them input
Vivek: act as if you are senior. Otherwise you know and lead that when you lead you will, you will be able to delegate lot of lot of the work, so
Vivek: make sure that you do that, and then that way we'll be able to get things done, and I'll meanwhile, have they responded to your s. 3. Request yet.
Shahid S: No, they have not responded to both of the request yet. I'll make sure to. I'll just remind them again tomorrow.
Shahid S: Yeah.
Vivek: Okay, so do that because I will. If not, then I will also message from my side
Vivek: the CEO of Babel.
Vivek: A
Vivek: yeah, they. I'll message him as well, and but you do from your party, because you are on slack channel right?
Vivek: And for some reason their slack channel doesn't show doesn't integrate with my slack channel. So I have to go on a separate link to see that, or how are you able to integrate that together?
Shahid S: Yeah, I mean, yes, I was able to get the slack into our
Shahid S: or space.
Vivek: Okay, I'll we'll figure that out later. Okay, so what's next?
Shahid S: That being said, yeah, we I was just working on that. Our use cases for Grant engine what we did, how to find it, together with that, our rag solution or rag block that we are writing.
Shahid S: I think I might get something. But yeah, I'm writing on that again. I'm working to have a look
Shahid S: what we did for granting, and how to bind it together with this, our brand
Shahid S: exactly.
Vivek: Okay, so let me clarify. There rag is totally separate.
Vivek: G. Copilot. We are writing case study just like we wrote for the pony plant.
Vivek: and then don't overthink like whenever whatever comes to your mind. So this is how the writing works. This is coaching going on for writing.
Vivek: I'm not a writer myself.
Vivek: How do you do it? You create a 1st draft. Send it to me. I'll take a pass, and then I'll give you a feedback. Okay?
Vivek: And then I will add something to it, and then and then also give you feedback, like, what are the things you can do, and then you revise just like, how did Bonnie Plant happen like? Did we see that it will turn out into a good case study?
Vivek: It was like so much broken pieces were there right? We refined it so many times that it became a very coherent story. So
Vivek: don't worry about perfection on the 1st quote itself, create so and drag and just to be just to clarify rag, article blog, and G is separate. But of course, like you can take some of the stuff we did
Vivek: 4G pilot, or we could have done to explain. Rag.
Vivek: Okay, yeah.
Vivek: So this thing, I think you can share it with me like this. I would have expected G. Copilot 1st draft and as well as drag. 1st stop, because I gave you feedback on drag as well as G. Copilot. Both
Vivek: that what? What are the things we need to.
Shahid S: That's the same document. Actually, if you can leave feedback, that would be great whatever it is, and if the content looks great, then I'll start adding a another content as well. I have started creating it.
Shahid S: But yeah, I will just put this into the document. If that looks fine.
Shahid S: the outline looks fine.
Vivek: Okay.
Shahid S: So that being said, we have to.
Vivek: Yeah.
Shahid S: One is
Shahid S: another is Zico valid case study.
Shahid S: I'll send you once again, so that you can.
Vivek: Right.
Shahid S: I'll start adding the contents tomorrow as well.
Shahid S: Right oops.
Shahid S: And after that we have another 2 R&D and Pocs.
Shahid S: That is number one is our internal Lm comparison, tool
Shahid S: and number 2 is our
Shahid S: task manager.
Shahid S: From our communication.
Shahid S: These 2 aren't plugins. We are working.
Shahid S: It doesn't.
Vivek: Okay.
Vivek: okay, okay, so you will have to put things in order. I know, like, this is, like, we have to arrange this thing in order, so that and I think once we have that
Vivek: Task manager kind of thing, we don't have to wait for that just we can start with simple.
Vivek: a calm girl there made a simple idea. Right? Summary.
Vivek: So was call Case summary. Go after yesterday's call
Vivek: key. We have to put it in a specific format.
Vivek: Abhi, watch for that. Then let's let's just do a simple thing.
Vivek: He
Vivek: Whatever we are discussing on the call, we will. I will
Vivek: take the summary of this and post it. Okay?
Vivek: And then you try to. Or let's say data, how, let's say, just like
Vivek: which Api use the connect. Which means how it is doing that. Okay?
Vivek: And then and then we will see, like, key we can integrate our Google drive. We can integrate our
Vivek: email and slack as well.
Vivek: Okay, so let's let's start here. Let's let's keep it safe.
Shahid S: Yeah, that would be great. You can send me the summary after this call. I'll try to have a look without any more customization or.
Vivek: Right.
Shahid S: How this transcript looks like.
Vivek: Yeah, we we can start simple with
Shahid S: If you can get idea to how it is capable of doing something, then we can think about adding some extra factors or layers.
Vivek: Right, right
Vivek: I might have
Vivek: in future. I feel like Ui will be very, very important. People will differentiate AI engineering
Vivek: Hoja. I got your software engineering
Vivek: like in you need some sort of engineering skill and also business skill. And also like creativity is Ui, that that's gonna drive the
Vivek: that's going to be a a big
Vivek: big capability.
Vivek: So even before, like parallel team, success criteria join a team level, of course, scalable, fast efficient.
Vivek: Then, ui!
Vivek: And then
Vivek: is it
Vivek: making our life easy?
Vivek: Matter? Is it even worth
Vivek: building, you know. So what is simple? I'll send you the summary. And let's see, I'll I'll let you go. Creative, go creative on that.
Shahid S: Yeah for chat. I think we we can do that. Once we get a summary, then let's check on directly on chat security. How it performs. Then we can build something on top of that
Shahid S: moving to the next one. That is our Llm. Comparison field.
Shahid S: I was thinking about something, how we can do that. And initial goal. Was this right? Let's suppose a client comes in.
Shahid S: He puts his business problem and his key metrics, key performance metrics into it.
Shahid S: and he get a comparison about 2 elements which one performs better right?
Shahid S: So.
Vivek: There's so many.
Shahid S: Thank you. Let's define some of the metrics itself. Give any true data we can get from Internet like accuracy. Let's suppose I'm comparing 2 models that is, chat and cloud sonnet model, right.
Vivek: Right.
Shahid S: Various parameters or metrics, performance metrics like accuracy, response, time
Shahid S: and its cost, scalability, security. All these things right.
Vivek: Right, right.
Shahid S: After. Yeah, all these key metrics. So let's build something. He will include all his problem statement.
Shahid S: And we give that problem statement to another Llm.
Shahid S: And it will do what you will say. Better standard format in a better format. I am a normal user, right? Business problem that if I give it to better.
Shahid S: So we'll provide an Llm. Choose a better format, Melik, and what we'll do. We'll send this better format writing of problem statement to 2 different elements. Okay, chat Gpt and clouds on it and ask it to write how we're going to solve the problem.
Shahid S: Give a problem statement, a mirror, it work as a solution.
Shahid S: so don't know if it.
Shahid S: and then we'll have a kind of a judge there.
Shahid S: depending on which solution looks much better.
Shahid S: Given that key performance. Metrics of the user or list is this thing
Shahid S: and Joe solution, donor model is generate care.
Shahid S: So what kind of performance indicators you were better.
Shahid S: Discuss solution, better. Lebra.
Vivek: Okay. So I get it. But I'm little bit usual because it gets it gets technical here. So
Vivek: have you used figma or figma around Tumnevo research here.
Vivek: Tumjitna technical and the level you are going. I'm not. I don't have time. And also
Vivek: like, I cannot like I want to understand that. And the gap can be filled
Vivek: if you learn to or figma, both easier to make working prototype.
Vivek: So free version, maybe they offer quite a lot of things. So to explain this kind of technical thing or maybe that will be really helpful.
Vivek: And then we don't have to think I I like that. I followed you till there where you were.
Vivek: Do model comparison.
Vivek: That's a good question.
Vivek: a requirement, non technical requirement of numbers, business point of view, Sathika or up
Vivek: security picture efficiency, scalability.
Vivek: accuracy which I get.
Vivek: And and within security we will further classify Yoga Joki Apneko. This is this is where we will stand out security
Vivek: in Llm. Or aim. Para Rowland.
Vivek: this is going to play a big role, and this is where people have
Vivek: lot of fear. So
Vivek: we will ask those questions. Security? I don't know. I would like you to think on that.
Vivek: and then ask those questions which will be important for the Llm.
Vivek: From security point of view.
Vivek: And then
Vivek: Bfsi Walle
Vivek: models right
Vivek: or more the exceptional case. But he's trying to solve
Vivek: customer of cable. Tam.
Vivek: Hmm
Vivek: concept problem solver. Let's say customer service problem solver. Right? So Bfsi
Vivek: come, model will be helpful, but we will see Key by the customer service care on Con. That's a very edge case, and that's very exceptional. But
Vivek: straight away I'm filter out cutting it based on the industry. Right?
Vivek: So I don't know. I talked a lot here, but.
Shahid S: No, no, that's so. How we can do that. Again. We have 50 models then, based on the industry. What we are working at domain of that problem statement, we can filter 1st layer filtering
Shahid S: out of 15. We are getting 5 elements.
Shahid S: then on that problem statement.
Shahid S: joby solution, generate care. 5 different models. Next, as a judge, we will use another Llm. As a judge who say, Judge, which which solution is better
Shahid S: given, that performance indicators that client is.
Vivek: Hmm! Well.
Shahid S: Asking about it, which solution seems better to the client
Shahid S: I feel better in compare in, given that these are the 3 performance.
Vivek: One second.
Vivek: right.
Shahid S: How did model? Actually, because, Abi, in a space, if you see
Shahid S: the this evolution? AI evolution, this is also very technical.
Vivek: No, you continue. But I want to make sure. So let's say, 50 models, 1, 2, 50, okay, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 models. Where
Vivek: 3rd model, Yoga
Vivek: which will be from 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or it will be from 6 to 58th model.
Shahid S: It will be from, are we if we are comparing Chat Gpt. 4 and cloud sonnet Cloud version. Then, as an I'll be also keeping this chat. Gpt. 4. Because voice of service better modular.
Vivek: That will be biased right?
Shahid S: In that case we need to check you with.
Shahid S: Solution right? And other solution, because Llm doesn't.
Vivek: So, okay, so this is where we need to be very smart and we can brainstorm.
Vivek: So ye, this is where my business point of view is also wrong. My Ir. We are
Vivek: the Bulroki Apni family mesibilia here.
Vivek: there. There is like competition between 2 families, and then this one family is deciding which one is better, they will obviously tell, like, Hey or chatgpt pay
Vivek: to grog. I'm I'm bad at making decision, and which one is the best.
Vivek: No, it doesn't tell.
Vivek: He doesn't tell that.
Shahid S: That chat. Gpt is best time with, Yeah.
Vivek: We have to come up with we. So this is where we have to come up with. Can we have some sort of
Vivek: metric which we decide kipash. I'm gonna select earlier
Vivek: Abba
Vivek: of hum decision, later, based on human as a human, we have some evaluation criteria.
Vivek: If partial model go home, because data or partial model
Vivek: say, hum, decide, parent, not any 3rd party, Llm. Maybe. 1st round preliminary round. 3rd party.
Vivek: 3rd party led and say feedback.
Vivek: But at the end we are making decision because that will be crucial, or also make make sure he bother the expensive product. We don't have that much resources. So think from that point of view as well.
Vivek: But here, what do you think about that? Do you think? Can we do something
Vivek: along that line? How I'm thinking.
Shahid S: Now we can do that because I have given a thought. It's my whole job.
Shahid S: We are having some parameters and some metrics right to just something
Shahid S: toggle business solution there are.
Shahid S: And given that these parameters we can rate it to fit. We can do it right. Click on. Better compare, let's say, accuracy for for Bfsi problem statement, this accuracy is other cloud sonnet. Accuracy is other compared to Gpt 4
Shahid S: and response. Time is also faster. Then user will definitely go for Cloud Summit. Right? Cloud Summit
Shahid S: sped. There you go.
Shahid S: These are the performance. We'll give a report. Then it comes to at the end. It's the decision is up to the user, right client capacity, decision.
Vivek: Okay.
Shahid S: And this is all you wanted. And this is how this model perform on this type of metrics. Given your problems right?
Vivek: Okay, got it? Got it?
Vivek: Okay.
Vivek: sounds good to me. So
Vivek: think along that line.
Vivek: And yeah, let's start executing
Vivek: allocate your time. Accordingly, you know 2 h for development, 1 h for writing, and you have to like, sit down and block your time.
Vivek: There will be run time and then block that time. Be this time.
Vivek: And that's why I was talking about. It's not a gesture. It's important. Once you have your work, text location and chair.
Vivek: So that will create the separation. Be okay. You hop in a bad round. So now I'm professionally doing things.
Vivek: and it's also important for
Vivek: us when we are going to with client meeting. These are big meetings.
Vivek: It's very important for us to, you know, be very professional, so it's not
Vivek: any. I mean, it's also a gesture, but also something which is really, really important. So
Vivek: don't take this anything outside context. This is very
Vivek: I'm thinking, from productivity. Point of view, I'm thinking, from professionally professional point of view.
Vivek: And I'm thinking for for your growth, my growth, and for companies growth.
Vivek: So there's nothing more than that.
Vivek: So just
Vivek: and yeah, we will. We'll talk about this later. But that was my thought process. Anything else.
Shahid S: No, that's it, and just Preeta's also. Push the codes into the Github.
Shahid S: I will have a look and let you know about it.
Vivek: Okay?
Vivek: So I have like, bunch of ideas on
Vivek: ui, or website, pay to be honest after
Vivek: feedback from any open source or a
Vivek: which is fine.
Vivek: But that's
Vivek: something I want to have like, minimal website should be simple. Tell what we do. And then
Vivek: Blogs was done in, so
Vivek: I don't know anything else you need from him, from ui side
Vivek: ui help like.
Vivek: is there any
Vivek: square space
Vivek: or wix? It allows you to do drag and drop ui, you know.
Vivek: So that's something I will go for
Vivek: ideally. But we we did that. And then that time I was
Vivek: thinking that Kamlesh will lead
Vivek: but I feel like experience, wise and vision wise not matching
Vivek: I want to go fast, and I want to go like
Vivek: big
Vivek: and for that reason, like.
Vivek: I'm changing all those things.
Vivek: yeah, I know you. Tomorrow Ui may tomorrow experience you. That's not a problem. And that shouldn't be a problem right
Vivek: ui, to have
Vivek: that can be plugged in
Vivek: ui solution.
Shahid S: And you get multiple sources for this year. Right? Basically website.
Shahid S: you can just drag and drop elements and make a good ui around them.
Vivek: Yeah.
Vivek: Oh, you see.
Shahid S: Efforts, neither.
Vivek: And you use python to do python we have last time we copy basic. Right?
Vivek: Yeah.
Vivek: Hmm.
Vivek: okay. So we'll we'll talk about that later. Anything else. Shahid.
Shahid S: No, that's it. That's it for you.
Vivek: Okay, what are the things we talked? How was different? It will be hard for me as well as you.
Vivek: So that's something we need to figure it out right. It doesn't have to be like best solution. It's just simple sheet, maybe a more tracker, right?
Vivek: So that will be good.
Vivek: So that
Vivek: yeah. So basically hect.
Vivek: we are creating AI assistant for both of us or for the company. Once we grow
Vivek: monthly. Ka quarter ka, long term, short term vision.
Vivek: or it's evolved right? It's it's always evolving.
Vivek: Oh.
Vivek: yeah, which was which became top of the priority. So it will shift.
Vivek: or that itself creates.
Vivek: This is like lot of work.
Vivek: So if we can have a system which is already shuffling, and you know, reordering thing, this will make our lives so easy
Vivek: that
Vivek: yeah, let's try it. This can be a
Vivek: yeah. Let's let's try it.
Shahid S: Yeah, that's right. The value of task defined, or is the timeline?
Shahid S: Then we can think about.
Vivek: Timeline. I don't think
Vivek: AI or chat. Gpt application itself will do the timeline up. Nego could could sort of
Vivek: indicator create
Vivek: or whether there is, there has to be some level of templatization at some level of process or structure or not. Here.
Vivek: Okay, to do list.
Vivek: Okay, let's start. I mean, if we'll get too ahead, then it will get complicated, and then we will not take action. So let's start somewhere, and then we will take it from there. Okay, so just do your give your best shot.
Vivek: and then we will refine it.
Vivek: I have, like.
Vivek: decent
Vivek: idea, key product to end product.
Vivek: But execution challenge Mojij we have
Vivek: for any, or and I think you cannot also envision, because you don't exactly know how I'm thinking right now.
Vivek: But do you have the basic idea? Give what I'm aiming for.
Shahid S: Let's start it where we can iterate on that the cacket changes. Come, and what
Shahid S: towards that? If you are thinking about it, and I'll share it in Joby. All the development. I'll keep sharing with you so that you can give feedback and we can work on it.
Vivek: Okay.
Vivek: Alright, Shahid, that's awesome travel.
Shahid S: I'll be traveling on 4th or 5, th 5th to 6, th actually.
Vivek: Okay.
Vivek: so to my to family that
Vivek: didn't English would teach chateau.
Vivek: Do you want break.
Shahid S: I will ask if I need great. But yeah, I'll be traveling, but I can work on that time.
Vivek: Okay. Cool to my family is the time spent. If you need break
Vivek: you let me know, Mujabas. Advance me, Mujab Adina.
Vivek: or so let me know. Keep me keep me posted.
Vivek: And then, yeah, spend time with family, and things will be slowing down.
Vivek: Take break, and then we will.
Vivek: Yeah. Keep you posted.
Shahid S: Alright!
Vivek: Alright, shay, thank you so much. I'll talk to you later. Bye.
Shahid S: Okay? Bye.