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# Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct
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## Our Pledge
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enforcement ladder](https://github.com/mozilla/diversity).
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[homepage]: https://www.contributor-covenant.org
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<br />
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<div align="center">
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<a href="https://github.com/SartajBhuvaji/Data-Science-Project/tree/main/">
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<img src="docs/logo.png" alt="logo" width="80" height="80">
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</a>
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<h3 align="center">Resonate</h3>
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Data Science Capstone
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<p align="center">
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<br />
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<a href="https://github.com/SartajBhuvaji">Sartaj Bhuvaji</a>
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·
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<a href="https://github.com/PrachiteeChouhan31">Prachitee Chouhan</a>
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·
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<a href="https://github.com/madhuroopa">Madhuroopa Irukulla</a>
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<a href="https://github.com/jay-singhvi">Jay Singhvi</a>
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# Resonate: A Retrieval Augmented Framework For Meeting Insight Extraction
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In the fast-paced professional realm, meetings serve as vital platforms for collaboration and decision-making. Yet, among the vast exchange of information, recollecting essential details often proves challenging, hindering overall productivity. Imagine a scenario where past discussions on User Interface design are essential but cumbersome to retrieve.
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Our project aims to tackle this challenge by developing a solution to effortlessly extract pivotal insights from historical meetings. expeeLeveraging Retrieval Augmented Generation techniques, our proposed system enables users to seamlessly upload meeting records and pose queries for relevant information retrieval. One core component of the system is to group meetings based on their abstractive summaries. Several state-of-the-art clustering algorithms were extensively trained and evaluated. When users pose inquiries, our system will pinpoint the cluster most likely to contain relevant discussions.
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By utilizing the Pinecone vector store database, we retrieve pertinent conversations within a contextual window. The retrieved conversations and custom prompt are then processed through a Large Language Model (LLM) to generate precise responses. Our focus on system optimization involves exploring diverse encoders and LLM models, with fine-tuning to ensure rigorous evaluation and seamless integration. Through our approach, we transcend challenges in conversational meeting summarization, content discovery, and delivering a tailored, high-performance solution designed for user convenience.
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## Getting Started
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### Running on Github Codespace
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1. Create a Codespace with 4 cores.
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```bash
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- Learn more about config options: README
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```bash
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### Running Locally
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1. Clone the repository:
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## Demo
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https://github.com/SartajBhuvaji/Resonate/assets/31826483/b7f9ef2c-3839-47d5-94cf-c1d632c70f57
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## Framework
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![architecture_diagram](https://github.com/SartajBhuvaji/Resonate/assets/31826483/20140140-8c94-4952-9900-334bfe8b335a)
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# Description: This file contains the main Streamlit application for the Resonate project.
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# Run command: streamlit run app.py
|
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+
|
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+
import os
|
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+
import pandas as pd
|
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+
import streamlit as st
|
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+
from dotenv import load_dotenv
|
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+
from streamlit import session_state as ss
|
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+
from streamlit_chat import message
|
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+
from src.clustering.resonate_bert_summarizer import summarize_runner
|
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+
from src.clustering.resonate_clustering import Clustering
|
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+
from src.langchain.resonate_langchain_functions import LangChain
|
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+
from src.utils.resonate_streamlitUtils import (
|
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+
aws_transcribe,
|
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+
convert_video_to_audio,
|
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+
pinecone_init_upsert,
|
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+
transcript_text_editor_minutes_to_hhmmss,
|
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+
)
|
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+
|
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+
def initialize_session_state():
|
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+
# Initialize API keys in session state if not present
|
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+
if "api_keys" not in ss:
|
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+
ss.api_keys = {}
|
24 |
+
ss.api_keys["openai_api_key"] = None
|
25 |
+
ss.api_keys["pinecone_api_key"] = None
|
26 |
+
ss.api_keys["aws_access_key"] = None
|
27 |
+
ss.api_keys["aws_secret_access_key"] = None
|
28 |
+
|
29 |
+
if "api_key_set" not in ss:
|
30 |
+
ss.api_key_set = False
|
31 |
+
if "add_meeting" not in ss:
|
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+
ss.add_meeting = False
|
33 |
+
if "Clustering_obj" not in ss:
|
34 |
+
ss.Clustering_obj = Clustering()
|
35 |
+
# Initialize - Main Screen - Transcript Editor
|
36 |
+
if "transcript_speaker_editor" not in ss:
|
37 |
+
ss.transcript_speaker_editor = False
|
38 |
+
if "transcript_text_editor" not in ss:
|
39 |
+
ss.transcript_text_editor = False
|
40 |
+
if "meeting_name" not in ss:
|
41 |
+
ss.meeting_name = ""
|
42 |
+
if "df_transcript_speaker" not in ss:
|
43 |
+
ss.df_transcript_speaker = pd.DataFrame()
|
44 |
+
if "df_transcript_text" not in ss:
|
45 |
+
ss.df_transcript_text = pd.DataFrame()
|
46 |
+
if "updated_df" not in ss:
|
47 |
+
ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed = pd.DataFrame()
|
48 |
+
if "chat_view" not in ss:
|
49 |
+
ss.chat_view = True
|
50 |
+
if "langchain_obj" not in ss and ss.api_key_set:
|
51 |
+
ss.langchain_obj = LangChain()
|
52 |
+
if "query" not in ss:
|
53 |
+
ss.query = ""
|
54 |
+
if "responses" not in ss:
|
55 |
+
ss["responses"] = ["How can I assist you?"]
|
56 |
+
if "requests" not in ss:
|
57 |
+
ss["requests"] = []
|
58 |
+
|
59 |
+
|
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+
def chat_view():
|
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+
st.header("Chat")
|
62 |
+
response_container = st.container()
|
63 |
+
textcontainer = st.container()
|
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+
with textcontainer:
|
65 |
+
query = st.text_input(
|
66 |
+
"Chat Here",
|
67 |
+
placeholder="Message Resonate ... ",
|
68 |
+
value=ss.query,
|
69 |
+
key="query_input",
|
70 |
+
)
|
71 |
+
# Clear button
|
72 |
+
if st.button("Clear"):
|
73 |
+
ss.langchain_obj.conversation_bufw.memory.clear() # Clear conversation buffer
|
74 |
+
ss.query = ""
|
75 |
+
ss.requests = []
|
76 |
+
ss.responses = []
|
77 |
+
ss["responses"] = ["How can I assist you?"]
|
78 |
+
st.rerun()
|
79 |
+
|
80 |
+
elif query:
|
81 |
+
with st.spinner("typing..."):
|
82 |
+
uuid_list = ss.Clustering_obj.uuid_for_query(query=query)
|
83 |
+
print(f"Meeting Unique ID : {uuid_list}")
|
84 |
+
response = ss.langchain_obj.chat(
|
85 |
+
query=query, in_filter=uuid_list, complete_db_flag=False
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)
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response = response["response"]
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ss.requests.append(query)
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+
ss.responses.append(response)
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+
ss.query = ""
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with response_container:
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92 |
+
if ss["responses"]:
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+
for i in range(len(ss["responses"])):
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94 |
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message(ss["responses"][i], key=str(i))
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95 |
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if i < len(ss["requests"]):
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message(
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ss["requests"][i],
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is_user=True,
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99 |
+
key=str(i) + "_user",
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100 |
+
)
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101 |
+
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102 |
+
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103 |
+
def api_keys_input():
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104 |
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with st.form("keys_input_form"):
|
105 |
+
# Retrieve values from session state
|
106 |
+
openai_api_key = st.text_input(
|
107 |
+
"OpenAPI Key:",
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108 |
+
type="password",
|
109 |
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value=ss.api_keys.get(
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110 |
+
"openai_api_key", ""
|
111 |
+
), # Use default value if key is not present
|
112 |
+
)
|
113 |
+
pinecone_api_key = st.text_input(
|
114 |
+
"Pinecone Key:",
|
115 |
+
type="password",
|
116 |
+
value=ss.api_keys.get(
|
117 |
+
"pinecone_api_key", ""
|
118 |
+
), # Use default value if key is not present
|
119 |
+
)
|
120 |
+
aws_access_key = st.text_input(
|
121 |
+
"AWS Access Key:",
|
122 |
+
type="password",
|
123 |
+
value=ss.api_keys.get(
|
124 |
+
"aws_access_key", ""
|
125 |
+
), # Use default value if key is not present
|
126 |
+
)
|
127 |
+
aws_secret_access_key = st.text_input(
|
128 |
+
"AWS Secret Access Key:",
|
129 |
+
type="password",
|
130 |
+
value=ss.api_keys.get(
|
131 |
+
"aws_secret_access_key", ""
|
132 |
+
), # Use default value if key is not present
|
133 |
+
)
|
134 |
+
# Add a button to save the keys
|
135 |
+
save_button = st.form_submit_button("Save API Keys")
|
136 |
+
if save_button:
|
137 |
+
# Update session state with provided keys
|
138 |
+
ss.api_keys["openai_api_key"] = openai_api_key
|
139 |
+
ss.api_keys["pinecone_api_key"] = pinecone_api_key
|
140 |
+
ss.api_keys["aws_access_key"] = aws_access_key
|
141 |
+
ss.api_keys["aws_secret_access_key"] = aws_secret_access_key
|
142 |
+
# Set environment variables only if the keys are not None
|
143 |
+
if openai_api_key:
|
144 |
+
os.environ["OPENAI_API_KEY"] = ss.api_keys["openai_api_key"]
|
145 |
+
if pinecone_api_key:
|
146 |
+
os.environ["PINECONE_API_KEY"] = ss.api_keys["pinecone_api_key"]
|
147 |
+
if aws_access_key:
|
148 |
+
os.environ["AWS_ACCESS_KEY"] = ss.api_keys["aws_access_key"]
|
149 |
+
if aws_secret_access_key:
|
150 |
+
os.environ["AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY"] = ss.api_keys[
|
151 |
+
"aws_secret_access_key"
|
152 |
+
]
|
153 |
+
|
154 |
+
ss.api_key_set = True
|
155 |
+
print("API KEYS ARE: ", ss.api_keys)
|
156 |
+
st.rerun()
|
157 |
+
|
158 |
+
|
159 |
+
def add_meeting():
|
160 |
+
with st.form("add_meeting_form"):
|
161 |
+
uploaded_file = st.file_uploader("Choose a file", type=["wav", "mp4"])
|
162 |
+
# Get user input
|
163 |
+
meeting_name = st.text_input("Enter Meeting Name:")
|
164 |
+
save_meeting_button = st.form_submit_button("Save Meeting")
|
165 |
+
if save_meeting_button:
|
166 |
+
if not meeting_name:
|
167 |
+
st.warning("Please enter Meeting Name.")
|
168 |
+
elif uploaded_file is None:
|
169 |
+
st.warning("Please upload a meeting recording.")
|
170 |
+
elif meeting_name and uploaded_file:
|
171 |
+
with st.spinner("Processing..."):
|
172 |
+
file_name = uploaded_file.name.replace(" ", "_")
|
173 |
+
if file_name.endswith(".mp4") or file_name.endswith(".mpeg4"):
|
174 |
+
print("in video")
|
175 |
+
with open("data/videoFiles/" + file_name, "wb") as f:
|
176 |
+
f.write(uploaded_file.getbuffer())
|
177 |
+
f.close()
|
178 |
+
# Convert video file to audio file
|
179 |
+
audio_path = "data/audioFiles/" + file_name[:-4] + ".wav"
|
180 |
+
convert_video_to_audio(
|
181 |
+
"data/videoFiles/" + file_name, audio_path
|
182 |
+
)
|
183 |
+
file_name = file_name[:-4] + ".wav"
|
184 |
+
elif file_name.endswith(".wav"):
|
185 |
+
print("in audio")
|
186 |
+
with open("data/audioFiles/" + file_name, "wb") as f:
|
187 |
+
f.write(uploaded_file.getbuffer())
|
188 |
+
f.close()
|
189 |
+
ss.df_transcript_speaker = aws_transcribe(file_name)
|
190 |
+
ss.meeting_name = meeting_name
|
191 |
+
ss.transcript_speaker_editor = True
|
192 |
+
|
193 |
+
|
194 |
+
def transcript_speaker_editor():
|
195 |
+
ss.add_meeting = False
|
196 |
+
with st.form("transcript_speaker_editor_form"):
|
197 |
+
st.write("Transcript Speaker Editor:")
|
198 |
+
st.dataframe(ss.df_transcript_speaker)
|
199 |
+
df = ss.df_transcript_speaker.copy(deep=True)
|
200 |
+
# Create a list of unique speaker labels
|
201 |
+
speaker_labels = df["speaker_label"].unique()
|
202 |
+
# Create a dictionary to store the updated values
|
203 |
+
updated_speaker_names = {}
|
204 |
+
# Display text input boxes for each speaker label
|
205 |
+
for speaker_label in speaker_labels:
|
206 |
+
new_name = st.text_input(
|
207 |
+
f"Edit speaker label '{speaker_label}'", speaker_label
|
208 |
+
)
|
209 |
+
updated_speaker_names[speaker_label] = new_name
|
210 |
+
# Update the DataFrame with the new speaker label names
|
211 |
+
for old_name, new_name in updated_speaker_names.items():
|
212 |
+
df["speaker_label"] = df["speaker_label"].replace(old_name, new_name)
|
213 |
+
update_speaker_button = st.form_submit_button("Update Speakers")
|
214 |
+
if update_speaker_button and df is not None:
|
215 |
+
ss.df_transcript_speaker = pd.DataFrame()
|
216 |
+
ss.df_transcript_text = df.copy(deep=True)
|
217 |
+
del df
|
218 |
+
ss.transcript_text_editor = True
|
219 |
+
ss.transcript_speaker_editor = False
|
220 |
+
st.rerun()
|
221 |
+
|
222 |
+
|
223 |
+
# Function to update the text column
|
224 |
+
def transcript_text_editor_update_text(row_index, new_text):
|
225 |
+
ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed.at[row_index, "text"] = new_text
|
226 |
+
|
227 |
+
|
228 |
+
def transcript_text_editor():
|
229 |
+
ss.transcript_speaker_editor = False
|
230 |
+
st.write("Transcript Text Editor:")
|
231 |
+
st.write(ss.df_transcript_text)
|
232 |
+
df = ss.df_transcript_text.copy(deep=True)
|
233 |
+
ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed = df.copy(deep=True)
|
234 |
+
# Convert start_time and end_time to HH:MM:SS format
|
235 |
+
df["start_time"] = df["start_time"].apply(transcript_text_editor_minutes_to_hhmmss)
|
236 |
+
df["end_time"] = df["end_time"].apply(transcript_text_editor_minutes_to_hhmmss)
|
237 |
+
row_index = st.number_input(
|
238 |
+
"Enter the row index:",
|
239 |
+
min_value=0,
|
240 |
+
max_value=len(df) - 1,
|
241 |
+
value=0,
|
242 |
+
step=1,
|
243 |
+
)
|
244 |
+
new_text = st.text_area("Enter the new text:", df.at[row_index, "text"])
|
245 |
+
update_text_button_inner = st.button("Update Text")
|
246 |
+
if update_text_button_inner:
|
247 |
+
transcript_text_editor_update_text(row_index, new_text)
|
248 |
+
st.success("Text updated successfully!")
|
249 |
+
# Display the updated dataframe
|
250 |
+
st.header("Updated Transcript")
|
251 |
+
st.table(ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed)
|
252 |
+
update_text_button = st.button("Finish Transcript Editing")
|
253 |
+
if update_text_button:
|
254 |
+
with st.spinner("Uploading..."):
|
255 |
+
ss.df_transcript_text = pd.DataFrame()
|
256 |
+
meeting_summary, meeting_uuid = summarize_runner(
|
257 |
+
ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed
|
258 |
+
)
|
259 |
+
ss.Clustering_obj.create_Cluster()
|
260 |
+
pinecone_init_upsert(
|
261 |
+
ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed,
|
262 |
+
meeting_title=ss.meeting_name,
|
263 |
+
meeting_summary=meeting_summary,
|
264 |
+
meeting_uuid=meeting_uuid,
|
265 |
+
)
|
266 |
+
ss.meeting_name = "unnamed"
|
267 |
+
st.success("Pinecone upsert completed successfully!")
|
268 |
+
ss.transcript_text_editor = False
|
269 |
+
ss.updated_transcript_df_to_embed = pd.DataFrame()
|
270 |
+
ss.chat_view = True
|
271 |
+
st.rerun()
|
272 |
+
|
273 |
+
|
274 |
+
def init_streamlit():
|
275 |
+
initialize_session_state()
|
276 |
+
if os.path.exists("./config/.env"):
|
277 |
+
load_dotenv("./config/.env")
|
278 |
+
|
279 |
+
else:
|
280 |
+
print(".env file does not exist, API keys must be set manually.")
|
281 |
+
|
282 |
+
# Set initial state of the sidebar
|
283 |
+
st.set_page_config(
|
284 |
+
initial_sidebar_state="collapsed",
|
285 |
+
layout="wide",
|
286 |
+
)
|
287 |
+
st.title("RESONATE")
|
288 |
+
|
289 |
+
# Initializing sidebar and its components
|
290 |
+
with st.sidebar:
|
291 |
+
api_keys_input()
|
292 |
+
if st.button("Upload Meeting / Chat"):
|
293 |
+
ss.add_meeting = not ss.add_meeting
|
294 |
+
ss.chat_view = not ss.chat_view
|
295 |
+
ss.transcript_speaker_editor = False
|
296 |
+
ss.transcript_text_editor = False
|
297 |
+
|
298 |
+
if not ss.api_key_set:
|
299 |
+
st.header("Pre-requisites:")
|
300 |
+
st.write("Please set the API keys to enable the chat view.")
|
301 |
+
st.write("Please ensure that you have already run the 'pinecone_sample_dataloader.py'")
|
302 |
+
|
303 |
+
if ss.add_meeting and ss.api_key_set:
|
304 |
+
add_meeting()
|
305 |
+
if ss.transcript_speaker_editor:
|
306 |
+
transcript_speaker_editor()
|
307 |
+
if ss.df_transcript_text is not None and ss.transcript_text_editor:
|
308 |
+
transcript_text_editor()
|
309 |
+
if ss.chat_view and ss.api_key_set:
|
310 |
+
chat_view() # Chat view
|
311 |
+
|
312 |
+
|
313 |
+
|
314 |
+
if __name__ == "__main__":
|
315 |
+
# Please ensure you have data loaded in Pinecone before running the Streamlit app
|
316 |
+
# Please refer https://github.com/SartajBhuvaji/Resonate/blob/master/init_one_time_utils/PREREQUISITE.md
|
317 |
+
init_streamlit()
|
318 |
+
|
319 |
+
# Test questions:
|
320 |
+
# What was discussed about cyberbullying?
|
321 |
+
# What is one new feature planned for GitLab's code search?
|
322 |
+
# What is the goal of defining maintainability for the new diffs architecture?
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|
1 |
+
## Create a .env file and fill in the values for the following keys
|
2 |
+
OPENAI_API_KEY = ""
|
3 |
+
PINECONE_API_KEY = ""
|
4 |
+
AWS_ACCESS_KEY = ""
|
5 |
+
AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY = ""
|
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+
# Project Configuration
|
2 |
+
|
3 |
+
## .env File
|
4 |
+
|
5 |
+
This file contains the necessary API keys required for the application to function properly. Obtain the API keys from the following sources:
|
6 |
+
|
7 |
+
- [OPENAI_API_KEY](https://platform.openai.com/api-keys)
|
8 |
+
- [PINECONE_API_KEY](https://app.pinecone.io/)
|
9 |
+
- [AWS_ACCESS_KEY](https://console.aws.amazon.com/)
|
10 |
+
- [AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY](https://console.aws.amazon.com/)
|
11 |
+
|
12 |
+
## config.json
|
13 |
+
|
14 |
+
This JSON file holds crucial configuration values for the entire application. Please refer to the documentation before modifying any configurations.
|
15 |
+
|
16 |
+
### Pinecone Configuration
|
17 |
+
|
18 |
+
- **PINECONE_INDEX_NAME**: The name of the index, the highest-level organizational unit of vector data in Pinecone.
|
19 |
+
- **PINECONE_VECTOR_DIMENSION**: Dimensionality of the embedding model's vectors.
|
20 |
+
- **PINECONE_UPSERT_BATCH_LIMIT**: Number of transcript rows inserted into Pinecone Serverless in parallel.
|
21 |
+
- **PINECONE_TOP_K_RESULTS**: Number of results fetched by Pinecone for a query.
|
22 |
+
- **PINECONE_DELTA_WINDOW**: Conversation window size fetched for TOP_K results.
|
23 |
+
- **PINECONE_CLOUD_PROVIDER**: Cloud provider for Pinecone DB.
|
24 |
+
- **PINECONE_REGION**: Region of the Pinecone Cloud provider.
|
25 |
+
- **PINECONE_METRIC**: Distance metric used by Pinecone to calculate similarity.
|
26 |
+
- **PINECONE_NAMESPACE**: Logical separation inside the Pinecone Index.
|
27 |
+
|
28 |
+
### Embedding Provider Configuration
|
29 |
+
|
30 |
+
- **EMBEDDING_PROVIDER**: Provider of the embedding model for text-to-vector conversion.
|
31 |
+
- **EMBEDDING_MODEL_NAME**: Name of the embedding model provided by the provider.
|
32 |
+
|
33 |
+
### AWS Configuration
|
34 |
+
|
35 |
+
- **AWS_INPUT_BUCKET**: Bucket for storing audio files for AWS Transcribe.
|
36 |
+
- **AWS_OUTPUT_BUCKET**: Bucket collecting transcribed files.
|
37 |
+
- **AWS_REGION**: AWS region in use.
|
38 |
+
- **AWS_TRANSCRIBE_JOB_NAME**: Default name for Transcribe job.
|
39 |
+
|
40 |
+
### LangChain Configuration
|
41 |
+
|
42 |
+
- **LC_LLM_TEMPERATURE**: Temperature value for the Large Language Model.
|
43 |
+
- **LC_CONV_BUFFER_MEMORY_WINDOW**: Conversation memory window limit. (Future Use)
|
44 |
+
- **LC_LLM_SUMMARY_MAX_TOKEN_LIMIT**: Maximum tokens allowed for summary in the memory buffer.
|
45 |
+
- **LC_LLM_MODEL**: Large Language Model used for inference.
|
46 |
+
|
47 |
+
|
48 |
+
<i>The config/requirements.txt file was generated using pip freeze, if the primary ./requirements.txt fails, please use config/requirements.txt </i>
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{
|
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"PINECONE_INDEX_NAME": "langchain-retrieval-transcript",
|
3 |
+
"PINECONE_VECTOR_DIMENSION": 3072,
|
4 |
+
"PINECONE_UPSERT_BATCH_LIMIT": 90,
|
5 |
+
"PINECONE_TOP_K_RESULTS": 10,
|
6 |
+
"PINECONE_DELTA_WINDOW": 2,
|
7 |
+
"PINECONE_CLOUD_PROVIDER": "aws",
|
8 |
+
"PINECONE_REGION": "us-west-2",
|
9 |
+
"PINECONE_METRIC": "cosine",
|
10 |
+
"PINECONE_NAMESPACE": "default_namespace",
|
11 |
+
|
12 |
+
"EMBEDDING_PROVIDER": "OpenAI",
|
13 |
+
"EMBEDDING_MODEL_NAME": "text-embedding-3-large",
|
14 |
+
|
15 |
+
"MASTER_JSON_FILENAME": "master_meeting_details",
|
16 |
+
|
17 |
+
"AWS_INPUT_BUCKET": "input-bucket",
|
18 |
+
"AWS_OUTPUT_BUCKET": "output-bucket",
|
19 |
+
"AWS_REGION": "us-east-2",
|
20 |
+
"AWS_TRANSCRIBE_JOB_NAME": "transcribe-job",
|
21 |
+
|
22 |
+
"LC_LLM_TEMPERATURE": 0.01,
|
23 |
+
"LC_CONV_BUFFER_MEMORY_WINDOW": 1,
|
24 |
+
"LC_LLM_SUMMARY_MAX_TOKEN_LIMIT": 650,
|
25 |
+
"LC_LLM_MODEL": "gpt-3.5-turbo"
|
26 |
+
}
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0,ba94585e-b0df-4633-bef2-a4f94f644c11,"This meeting was about the future of social media. Firstly, the group discussed the current trends in the social media market, including the rise in the use of the internet and the trend-watching. Secondly, they talked about the current trend in the market for the internet, which was largely focused on the young and old people's different tastes. Thirdly, they discussed the role of the Internet in the current political climate, and the future directions of the society. Lastly, they agreed that the market should be more focused on young people and less on old people.",0
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1,906c7694-0e33-4c8e-8f51-0365155fbb81,"This is the second meeting about future of social media. First, the group discussed the role of social media as a useful platform and tool for young people. They also discussed the current trend in the market and future direction of young people's lives. Then, the discussion moved onto the topic of young trans kids and how they would like to make their lives better. They talked about how they could help their young trans friends to make sure they were on the right track. Finally, they talked about the future of their group and future plans.",0
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2,52d105f8-1c80-4056-8253-732b9e2bec63,"The group was moving to a new building across the street and were moving in three weeks. The group discussed the logistics of the new building. First, the group decided to organise their group into three groups: the phd students, the professor, and the graduate student. Next, they decided what kind of equipment they should have in their new building and how they should design it. Lastly, they discussed how they could make their group more efficient by making sure they had enough money for the cost control.",2
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3,9ed1fefa-db53-41fc-a21b-479b67e30073,"This meeting was about the design of the new building. First, the group decided to put two people room in the middle with only one window, so they would have to pay attention to the colour of the building. Next, they decided to place the first para meter, the first one was a para meter to choose people to put in their offices. Then, they agreed to put the second one as well as the third one. Lastly, they discussed how they would make the building more comfortable for all of them.",1
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4,e993da88-0e17-4a35-ba9a-c03decca607b,The meeting was about the new office space in the university building. The team first discussed how they would use the space they had been waiting for. The professor thought that they should make it better for the team to work on their next projects. The group also discussed how to make sure that the team would have enough room for all their work. The meeting ended with a group discussion about how they could make their new office better. The professor suggested that the group should make their next project better.,2
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5,61d453f1-2852-48d9-a25a-b6e04c3c4908,"This meeting was about the design of the new rooms in new building. First, the group discussed the logistics of putting four people in one of the 23 person rooms: one person, two person and three person rooms. Next, they discussed how to deal with the storage of the equipment. They agreed that they should keep the cost under twelve and a half Euros per room, but they would have to pay attention to the cost control. Lastly, they agreed that the room should be well-lit and that it should be easy to use.",1
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6,52d2dfe4-748b-4ecf-84fb-64be6ebcaeef,This is the first meeting of the new remote control project. Project Manager introduced the team members to the project and asked them to come up with a new design for the remote control. The team agreed to make the new product more user-friendly and to make it a remote control for all age groups. The meeting ended with a group discussion about the working design of the product. The group agreed that the product should be a working design with a wide range of functions and should be suitable for all ages groups.,1
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7,1be8e439-45b3-4c97-9e4a-5c78c1a15e78,"This meeting was about the working design of the new remote control. First, the group discussed the three presentations from the three team members: from the group's point of view, from the user interface's perspective, and from the industrial design's perspective. They agreed that they should make the product only for TV and that the corporate image should be the final thing to be added to the product. Then, the team discussed the project requirements: the design of components, system, and interface design. The group agreed that the product should be only for television and should be priced at twelve and a half Euros.",1
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8,a4b7b490-7b28-4744-85e5-d216f40ff52c,"This meeting was about the design of the new remote control product. Firstly, the group discussed the market requirements of the product: young people would like to have a high-tech design with fewer buttons than most of the controls on the market. Next, they talked about the working design of their product: it would be a remote control with LCD screen and voice recognition. Lastly, they discussed the product requirements: the remote control would be good-looking, easy to use, and would be priced at twelve fifty Euros.",1
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9,b3821662-03f1-4349-8781-ba5f64439693,"This meeting was about the conceptual design of the remote control. First, the group discussed the components design. They decided to have the, the logo, the company logo in its colour scheme in its own colour scheme. Next, they discussed the technical requirements. The group agreed that the product should be simple to use, but they wanted it to be more expensive. Lastly, they made some decisions about the product design, like the colour scheme, the material, the battery, and the buttons.",1
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10,d8054419-991c-42f8-b736-a9da4f55126f,This meeting was about technical issues that the team had to deal with within the backdrop project. First the team introduced the technical lead for the backdrop C MS project who was introducing the D two B migration model. Next the group discussed technical issues with the D-two B module which was responsible for migration to the database. Lastly the meeting ended with a group discussion about the future of the project including future ideas for future work. The group agreed that more work should be done on the background project.,0
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11,95efa3c5-9770-4160-9f28-35350efb9f73,This is the first time that the team has hosted a release kickoff at Git Lab. The meeting was about the Glab 16.7 monthly release kickoff for November. First the team discussed the current status of the core platforms group. Next the group discussed the future direction of the project including future directions and future work on data science. Lastly the meeting ended with a group discussion about the Deaf section of the web which was mainly about the improvements in the interface design.,0
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12,85430eae-d466-4d63-9015-5835bbe71b90,The group product manager introduced the product leaders for the SEC and data science sections. The team was working on a world-class Cops experience with a focus on first class usability and A I powered workflows. They were also working on an interface for the data science section. The meeting ended with a general discussion about the future direction of the project including future work on the Cops project and future directions of the C-zero project. The group also discussed the future of the team and their work on C-one and C-two.,0
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13,55d8afa8-a1bf-413c-a75c-b8c14da88d87,This meeting was about the logistics of the group meeting. The team was trying to figure out how they could make their group meeting more efficient. The professor suggested that they should make the meeting more interactive and asked the team members to share their knowledge about their work. The meeting ended with a general discussion about the future of the project. The group discussed how they would like to make their meeting more useful. They agreed to make it more interactive by making it more accessible to all members of the team.,2
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14,15b7549d-4b3f-43b5-9507-85de435f1b4a,"The meeting was about the architecture design of the GIT lab's new DSS project. The group first discussed the design of an architecture design document that would cover the future of the DSS. They discussed how they could further improve the current architecture. The meeting ended with a general discussion about future work on the project, including future directions for the project and future work in general. The final meeting was focused on future work, including a new project manager's role and the future direction of the project.",0
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15,875564dc-9954-41da-9084-ccf04ebffdb0,"The meeting was about the performance of the D-goal. The team was reminded that they had to be very careful about the quality of their work. The professor thought that they should make sure that their work was up to standard and that they were doing a good job of it. The group also discussed how they could make their work better. The final meeting ended with a group discussion about the future directions of the project, including the future direction of the team and future work on the project.",0
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16,72858a28-248d-4bef-af03-c62a3c285fbb,"The meeting was about the progress of their work on the Aurora project. The group discussed Aurora's progress and future directions. The professor thought that Aurora should create a shared document with some organization to share the work they had done. The team agreed that Aurora's performance should be measured against the criteria they had set for Aurora, but they were not sure how they could make their work better. The meeting ended with a general discussion about Aurora's future directions and future work on Aurora's project.",0
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17,4cbd0d4e-6cf9-4db4-bf15-f4f4e4d3d8d8,"The meeting was about the Weekly Sync for the New Diffs project. The team was working on an architecture workflow for the architecture. The professor thought that they should make the team more efficient by making sure that they would not only focus on the architecture, but also on the design of the interface and the interface design. The group also discussed how they could make the project more efficient. The meeting ended with a general discussion about the current status of the project, including the progress of the team's work and future directions.",0
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18,4badb5ba-ca92-4c3c-a7e9-0d49fc7a8137,"This is the second meeting of the group. First, the group discussed the logistics of the new time zone. They discussed how to deal with the different time zones of the time zones. Then, they discussed how they could make their work better by making it easier for people to share their work with the world. Lastly, they talked about how to make the new diffs architecture better for the group and how they would make it easier to share ideas about their work and future work with other groups.",0
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19,9c5aa3e4-b047-4f08-a838-9b665e251e4d,"This meeting was about the progress of the team's work on the DS project. The team first discussed the technical matters, then moved onto a discussion about how they would make their work more efficient. The final decision was made that the team should focus on the service side rendering, but the team was not sure what they should do to make it better. Finally, the meeting ended with a brief discussion about the future of the project, which was mainly about future work and future thoughts on the project.",0
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20,d7c8e3b8-c6e0-4845-8669-f2f4ed1b8549,"This was the second meeting of the new D-goal group. The meeting was about the architecture of the database. First, the group discussed the scroll issues that the team had to deal with. Next, they discussed the logistics of adding the blueprint to the documentation. The group also discussed how they could make their database more robust. Lastly, the meeting ended with a general discussion about the future of the project, including future work on the database and future thoughts about the team's work in general.",0
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21,876e67fa-314d-40e4-b942-21ca63e81995,"This was the final meeting of the interface project. The team first discussed the accessibility issue. The group also discussed the requirements for the interface, such as how to deal with different kinds of data and how to handle different types of data. The final meeting ended with a general discussion about the future of the project, including future work on the interface and future directions for the team's work. The group agreed that the interface should be up to standard and that it should be a good-looking and user-friendly interface.",0
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22,98a0b66c-2d0f-4025-b2dc-7a983768b385,"The meeting was about the new DS architecture design. The group first discussed the current status of the project. They then moved onto a general discussion about their work on the LSF files. They discussed the future direction of their work. The final meeting ended with a general update on the current progress of their project, including the progress of the current project. The group then discussed the design of the new LSF file. They agreed that it was time to make some improvements to the current design.",0
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1 |
+
,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
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2 |
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0,0.066,0.0881499999999999,spk_0,Right. Welcome everybody.
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3 |
+
1,0.09,0.1603166666666666,spk_0,Um This is the first call about the um
|
4 |
+
2,0.1703333333333333,0.2343333333333333,spk_0,um architecture design work for the effort that we're doing about
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5 |
+
3,0.2468333333333333,0.26315,spk_0,the new diffs.
|
6 |
+
4,0.2663166666666666,0.3204833333333333,spk_0,"Uh If anybody has any better naming, please suggest"
|
7 |
+
5,0.3225,0.3545,spk_0,because uh we're really bad at this.
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8 |
+
6,0.35815,0.3698333333333333,spk_0,But
|
9 |
+
7,0.3723333333333333,0.4491666666666666,spk_0,um let's uh let's start away uh with a little bit of an introduction.
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10 |
+
8,0.4493166666666666,0.5143333333333333,spk_0,"Uh Phil, I'll uh I'll ramble and I'll speak. But uh if you"
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11 |
+
9,0.5171666666666667,0.5616666666666668,spk_0,"feel like something's missing, please cut me off and uh"
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12 |
+
10,0.5709833333333333,0.5863333333333334,spk_0,uh feeling.
|
13 |
+
11,0.5993166666666667,0.63615,spk_0,"So, why are we here? So,"
|
14 |
+
12,0.6379833333333333,0.6983333333333334,spk_0,"uh in the past couple of years, we've been trying to um"
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15 |
+
13,0.7093333333333334,0.7303166666666667,spk_0,trying to iterate
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16 |
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14,0.73715,0.7481500000000001,spk_0,with
|
17 |
+
15,0.7594833333333334,0.7778166666666666,spk_0,"somehow you write it, right?"
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18 |
+
16,0.7853166666666667,0.8313333333333334,spk_0,Somebody can take notes. Uh It would be great. Uh Let me try
|
19 |
+
17,0.8351666666666666,0.8696666666666667,spk_0,it right on the current MRD
|
20 |
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18,0.8748333333333334,0.92815,spk_0,"architecture. And we've been um we've been, I'm gonna stop"
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21 |
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19,0.9349833333333332,0.9709833333333332,spk_0,"and we've been uh hitting some,"
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22 |
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20,0.9738333333333332,1.0488333333333333,spk_0,"some snags about how far along can build application, performance wise,"
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23 |
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21,1.0489833333333334,1.0698333333333334,spk_0,maintainability wise.
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24 |
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22,1.0775,1.1418333333333333,spk_0,And we just keep having different kinds of DS in the application.
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25 |
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23,1.1478333333333333,1.1643333333333334,spk_0,We have
|
26 |
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24,1.16765,1.1775,spk_0,the Merger
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27 |
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25,1.1798333333333333,1.1879833333333334,spk_0,Quest
|
28 |
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26,1.1911666666666667,1.2508333333333337,spk_0,Diffs and we have the repository Ds and we have the compare
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29 |
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27,1.2509833333333331,1.30515,spk_0,view DS between branches and we have the new Merger Quest.
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30 |
+
28,1.305316666666667,1.3238333333333334,spk_0,So there's a bunch of like
|
31 |
+
29,1.32715,1.3784833333333333,spk_0,"separate implementations of the DSS that live elsewhere,"
|
32 |
+
30,1.38865,1.437,spk_0,"the more we talk about these things, it feels like"
|
33 |
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31,1.4466666666666668,1.5216666666666667,spk_0,we're taking the current architecture as far as we can with
|
34 |
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32,1.5305,1.5775,spk_0,"getting things from Italy cashing in the database,"
|
35 |
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33,1.5776666666666666,1.62615,spk_0,"pushing it to the front end in multiple bit batches,"
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36 |
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34,1.6294833333333334,1.6813166666666666,spk_0,the front end rendered with a whole tree of view components
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37 |
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35,1.6858333333333333,1.7503166666666663,spk_0,"uh still with UX. But it, it feels like"
|
38 |
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36,1.7593166666666666,1.799,spk_0,we have iterated a lot added virtual scrolling
|
39 |
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37,1.8113333333333328,1.84565,spk_0,"knowing that it was a temporary solution,"
|
40 |
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38,1.8458333333333328,1.9096666666666664,spk_0,"introducing a couple of side effects that weren't desired,"
|
41 |
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39,1.9098166666666665,1.9539833333333332,spk_0,like user can search the whole this right.
|
42 |
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40,1.975,2.0425,spk_0,The reason why we're here is we wanna try to build
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43 |
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41,2.0509833333333334,2.151483333333333,spk_0,an architecture design document that will envision the future of diffs at GIT lab.
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44 |
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42,2.162,2.2213166666666666,spk_0,"And we're explicitly avoiding calling this the merger quest because it's not,"
|
45 |
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43,2.221483333333333,2.23665,spk_0,it's diffs.
|
46 |
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44,2.239983333333333,2.27565,spk_0,"One of them will be the merger quests,"
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47 |
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45,2.281483333333333,2.3413166666666667,spk_0,"the other will be the repository compared page and anywhere where the diff comes up,"
|
48 |
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46,2.3513333333333333,2.3913166666666665,spk_0,we can have a tool built for that.
|
49 |
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47,2.40465,2.468,spk_0,"So that's why we have source code code, review, giddily present"
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50 |
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48,2.47415,2.5101666666666667,spk_0,"and back and in front. And of those two teams,"
|
51 |
+
49,2.515483333333333,2.5533166666666665,spk_0,we don't have any particular um
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52 |
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50,2.5781666666666667,2.60015,spk_0,done decision yet.
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53 |
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51,2.601833333333333,2.645833333333333,spk_0,"So there's a lot of discovery that is gonna be having to go through,"
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54 |
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52,2.6591666666666667,2.6971666666666665,spk_0,but we count on everybody here.
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53,2.6973166666666666,2.757483333333333,spk_0,"Uh And even those are watching the recording, we count on everybody to"
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54,2.765483333333333,2.8254833333333336,spk_0,help steer the way and help author this design document.
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55,2.8596666666666666,2.871316666666667,spk_0,That's
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56,2.8756500000000003,2.936,spk_0,why we're here is that clear for everybody. Anybody has any questions?
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57,2.953666666666667,2.9726666666666666,spk_0,Did I miss anything? Phil?
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58,3.0454833333333333,3.052983333333333,spk_0,Awesome.
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59,3.0673166666666667,3.0923166666666666,spk_0,So what are we trying to accomplish
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60,3.10015,3.150333333333333,spk_0,a design document covering
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61,3.156,3.176333333333333,spk_0,the architecture
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62,3.1958333333333333,3.2055,spk_0,from
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63,3.2129833333333333,3.2573333333333334,spk_0,"start to finish? Which would be, I don't know,"
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64,3.2636666666666665,3.27515,spk_0,get
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65,3.2851666666666666,3.2988166666666667,spk_0,to
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66,3.3041666666666667,3.3168166666666665,spk_0,browser
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67,3.3303333333333334,3.3433333333333333,spk_0,um
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68,3.36115,3.3846666666666665,spk_0,um to support
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69,3.404,3.419483333333333,spk_0,a better
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70,3.4266666666666667,3.4531666666666667,spk_0,way of um
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71,3.45515,3.4848166666666667,spk_0,doing this. Let's keep it generic.
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72,3.485,3.5288166666666667,spk_0,"At this point, we'll, we'll cover a little bit more detail down the bottom."
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73,3.5428333333333333,3.58,spk_0,"So that's the goal of this effort. We don't,"
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74,3.58715,3.6401666666666666,spk_0,we don't intend to ship code for production as
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75,3.640316666666666,3.688833333333333,spk_0,part of this effort is the design document is the
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76,3.6985,3.7295,spk_0,um or the documentation
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77,3.735,3.7725,spk_0,is the outcome of this effort.
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78,3.7759833333333335,3.8485,spk_0,"Later, we'll definitely plan out the implementation of these um guidance."
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79,3.84865,3.9175,spk_0,"But for now, all our focus should be on drafting a document that we can all attest."
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82 |
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80,3.9279833333333336,4.002316666666666,spk_0,"Uh that is covering all scenarios or needs that we have on our side of the,"
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81,4.002483333333333,4.020983333333334,spk_0,"of the equation,"
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82,4.04415,4.06315,spk_0,"-- right? Any questions
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-- there?"
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83,4.131333333333333,4.135816666666667,spk_1,Cool.
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84,4.146316666666666,4.156,spk_1,OK.
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85,4.165166666666667,4.21815,spk_0,Um Dris just covering that a little bit.
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86,4.218333333333334,4.274666666666667,spk_0,"Um We have already identified the uh dris,"
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87,4.2748,4.316466666666667,spk_0,but I wanted to talk a little bit about the expectations for the dr I
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88,4.33165,4.342333333333333,spk_0,um
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89,4.346816666666666,4.37965,spk_0,everyone can contribute.
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93 |
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90,4.386,4.4126666666666665,spk_0,I'll remind everyone of this.
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91,4.412816666666667,4.475983333333334,spk_0,"Oops, I'll remind everyone of this mantra that is definitely um"
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92,4.483333333333333,4.499666666666666,spk_0,real here.
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93,4.503333333333333,4.563983333333333,spk_0,It's not just the dris that will contribute. Everybody is welcome to contribute.
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94,4.57065,4.6075,spk_0,The dris are essentially
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95,4.610666666666667,4.683,spk_0,"in the case of we're having a discussion that we need further input from the team,"
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96,4.68315,4.733333333333333,spk_0,"but the team is not aware, the dris will make sure to loop them in."
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97,4.740833333333334,4.8116666666666665,spk_0,They'll try to make every calls we're having or if not at least
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98,4.811816666666667,4.8738166666666665,spk_0,watch the recording and bring up any potential other discussions to the relevant
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99,4.878166666666667,4.922,spk_0,"people. Say, for example, just off the top of my head,"
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100,4.929166666666667,4.971316666666667,spk_0,I know that Robert May is really uh
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101,4.973316666666666,4.99415,spk_0,um knowledgeable about
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102,4.9965,5.0615,spk_0,"caching if we're discussing about the topic of caching, but Robert is not present."
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103,5.0659833333333335,5.1531666666666665,spk_0,"I count on Igor to loop him in because he's in, he's in his team and, and that would be"
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104,5.155483333333334,5.185,spk_0,"just a great, a great way to keep"
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105,5.191483333333333,5.23115,spk_0,the topics directed to the right experts.
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106,5.2428333333333335,5.29515,spk_0,"Um In case the Uddris can't make the call,"
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107,5.295333333333334,5.351816666666667,spk_0,"just make sure that somebody from your team makes it, that's, that's kind of it."
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108,5.351983333333333,5.38215,spk_0,"Um And if you can't make it,"
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109,5.382333333333333,5.4031666666666665,spk_0,nobody can make it at least watch the
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110,5.403333333333333,5.450483333333334,spk_0,"recording and participate as synchronously in the discussions,"
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111,5.475,5.500666666666667,spk_0,"right? Uh Is that,"
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112,5.5066500000000005,5.521,spk_0,is that clear
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113,5.525,5.554833333333333,spk_0,"in terms of expectations, your eye,"
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114,5.605333333333333,5.630333333333334,spk_0,right? This is like the Andrea show.
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115,5.634316666666667,5.645833333333333,spk_0,Um
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116,5.664833333333333,5.678983333333333,spk_0,um
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117,5.69315,5.72065,spk_0,"Right. So the eyes covered,"
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118,5.730833333333333,5.7445,spk_0,so
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119,5.7491666666666665,5.7728166666666665,spk_0,goals um
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120,5.788483333333334,5.827166666666667,spk_0,"I try, I, I give him some plot to this but um"
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121,5.851983333333333,5.880333333333334,spk_0,"so again, create the document"
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122,5.902666666666667,5.927666666666667,spk_0,for the architecture
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123,5.976483333333333,6.0315,spk_0,and then we also need to uh we're brainstorming now.
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124,6.03165,6.0955,spk_0,"So please uh if you can think of something that we're not covering, please speak up."
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125,6.09565,6.151483333333333,spk_0,"And the other thing that we, that we know for sure is needs to cover"
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126,6.154983333333333,6.223,spk_0,all scenarios where diffs are used around Gitla
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127,6.242333333333334,6.2728166666666665,spk_0,"right now. We have identified a few,"
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128,6.2774833333333335,6.33115,spk_0,"uh, I don't think there's more but, um,"
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129,6.343483333333333,6.38465,spk_0,"so there's a lot of, a lot of reusability,"
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130,6.399816666666666,6.452833333333333,spk_0,"uh, will be part of this effort. So"
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131,6.45915,6.491483333333333,spk_0,"we don't know exactly where it's going to be used,"
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132,6.49315,6.502166666666667,spk_0,but
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133,6.5065,6.548816666666667,spk_0,"we need to prepare it for reusability every, anywhere it needs"
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134,6.5695,6.602333333333333,spk_0,"to cover all scenarios. Um,"
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135,6.65715,6.6786666666666665,spk_0,"anybody has any,"
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136,6.69465,6.70565,spk_1,"what's the,"
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137,6.7085,6.746,spk_2,what's the scope of the word
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138,6.747816666666667,6.780483333333334,spk_2,diffs in this context? Because
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139,6.790483333333333,6.850666666666667,spk_2,"if we like, if it's, if it can be reused anywhere, that to me means like, oh,"
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140,6.850816666666667,6.884316666666667,spk_2,it's a component that can render a diff
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141,6.889483333333334,6.899,spk_2,but
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142,6.910316666666667,6.947816666666666,spk_2,we can also be talking about like the entire DS
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143,6.952166666666667,6.965166666666667,spk_2,app.
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144,6.97065,7.005983333333333,spk_2,"So what's, what are we kind of, what are we"
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145,7.009,7.0495,spk_2,trying to scope out here that can be reused everywhere.
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146,7.100666666666666,7.12015,spk_0,Anybody has any thoughts on that.
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147,7.173666666666667,7.196,spk_3,I it probably makes sense
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148,7.20615,7.219833333333334,spk_3,to go
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149,7.235316666666667,7.252983333333333,spk_3,the side of
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150,7.2595,7.264483333333334,spk_3,ad
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151,7.266983333333333,7.286316666666667,spk_3,that can be used
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152,7.290666666666667,7.329983333333334,spk_3,anywhere rather than being specific in the dry
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153,7.341333333333333,7.34265,spk_3,or
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154,7.3465,7.359,spk_3,commits whatever
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155,7.374316666666667,7.390833333333333,spk_3,I can just take this comp
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156,7.39515,7.415483333333333,spk_3,compare and give it ad
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157,7.417833333333333,7.443833333333333,spk_3,and it could just render it essentially
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158,7.463816666666666,7.477483333333334,spk_3,will be nice.
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159,7.49715,7.522316666666667,spk_2,"So OK, so"
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160,7.53015,7.579333333333333,spk_2,"just so we're on the same page, are we talking about? Basically"
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161,7.599666666666667,7.648316666666666,spk_2,our goal here is to be able to render
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162,7.65765,7.667983333333334,spk_2,uh
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163,7.684,7.703666666666667,spk_2,any diff
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164,7.7095,7.765983333333334,spk_2,"in, in a, in a component that we can share across the whole application"
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165,7.772316666666667,7.840166666666667,spk_2,"is that sort of the, the idea of this like new diffs sort of thing,"
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166,7.90565,8.002483333333334,spk_2,"we wouldn't be, we wouldn't be reworking like any, any of the other parts of the Diffs"
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167,8.0065,8.051316666666667,spk_2,"App. Uh, we wouldn't be re reworking."
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168,8.0725,8.138816666666667,spk_2,"Uh, I don't know, it would just be a component that renders a diff is that, but better,"
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169,8.138983333333334,8.16015,spk_2,"-- better than for
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-- everyone."
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170,8.160316666666667,8.201983333333333,spk_0,"Let me, let me step in there. Um,"
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171,8.226166666666666,8.2695,spk_0,you're correct in part that the Diffs App has a
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172,8.26965,8.3105,spk_0,lot of stuff that are not relevant for every diff.
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173,8.3125,8.326666666666666,spk_0,"However, a"
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174,8.3355,8.367333333333333,spk_0,collection of Diffs is a diff a
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175,8.37165,8.431833333333334,spk_0,file tree to navigate the collection of Diffs. Because if you think about
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176,8.439666666666668,8.505833333333333,spk_0,"it, if you give it, if you, if you think of ad D conceptually in git,"
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177,8.512,8.5795,spk_0,"you might have more than one file, you have a long patch with multiple files."
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178,8.579666666666666,8.595316666666667,spk_0,That's part of the D
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179,8.59765,8.61315,spk_0,that we want to render it.
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180,8.613316666666666,8.675166666666666,spk_0,"And it's relevant for commits, it's relevant for comparing branches"
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181,8.680333333333333,8.72,spk_0,"and we can lever, we can, we can keep it scoped on the"
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182,8.724483333333334,8.77265,spk_0,Giff. What's a Giff? It's like all the information that's present in the
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183,8.7755,8.825166666666666,spk_0,"Giff, everything around it. So for example,"
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184,8.8285,8.84,spk_0,um
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185,8.861316666666667,8.920166666666667,spk_0,in the merger graph would be all the options um
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186,8.927166666666666,8.941316666666667,spk_0,related to the Mer
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187,8.943,8.996483333333334,spk_0,"gra itself, like the header and all that stuff. It's not present on the DS."
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188,9.003166666666667,9.04665,spk_0,But the way it's presented in line or parallel
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189,9.046816666666668,9.1085,spk_0,should be accounted for at least the presentational part.
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190,9.131983333333332,9.144316666666668,spk_0,"However,"
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191,9.158333333333331,9.183983333333334,spk_0,"the way you worded it,"
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192,9.18415,9.266,spk_0,it's a very front end code review scope which is fair because that's where you live.
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193,9.274333333333333,9.316,spk_0,But we behind this component.
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194,9.31615,9.384666666666666,spk_0,We need to potentially change a few things on how the D gets to the browser
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195,9.389,9.425983333333331,spk_0,"to make it performing, to make it fast."
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196,9.429333333333334,9.491833333333334,spk_0,"Um So one of the, one of the things we had talked about already is"
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197,9.495316666666668,9.533833333333334,spk_0,uh performance um
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198,9.548,9.582333333333333,spk_0,not being degraded
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199,9.588483333333333,9.645,spk_0,regardless of how big the Mr is.
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200,9.664,9.674166666666666,spk_0,That's kind of like a
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201,9.677166666666666,9.741316666666666,spk_0,"like overall thing. The, the number one complaint we hear from"
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202,9.75,9.792,spk_0,product and customers. I talked to Kyle yesterday about this
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203,9.804333333333334,9.846,spk_0,is the the speed of the diffs.
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204,9.846166666666669,9.943483333333331,spk_0,"I can't review my 5000 changes, Mr or my 5000 files changed. Mr"
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205,9.951166666666667,10.01315,spk_0,uh So we wanna make sure that whatever we build should
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206,10.013316666666666,10.053983333333331,spk_0,"be built with performance in mind from the day one,"
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207,10.054166666666667,10.07565,spk_0,from the moment we get data from
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208,10.079333333333333,10.084666666666667,spk_0,"Gy,"
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209,10.092316666666669,10.144833333333333,spk_0,we need to account for performance optimizations
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210,10.14665,10.153983333333333,spk_0,our
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211,10.159316666666667,10.179333333333334,spk_0,"so the user doesn't,"
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212,10.182333333333334,10.21215,spk_0,doesn't see the diff entirely
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217 |
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213,10.214316666666669,10.227983333333333,spk_0,right away.
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218 |
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214,10.228166666666668,10.281666666666666,spk_0,"The way we've been iterating on the past couple of years is we batch it,"
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215,10.281816666666666,10.30365,spk_0,we render the first
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220 |
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216,10.31615,10.356666666666667,spk_0,"batch first push that to the browser,"
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217,10.356816666666669,10.406816666666666,spk_0,render that and then continue to progressively render the rest.
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222 |
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218,10.415483333333333,10.423166666666669,spk_0,"But the,"
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223 |
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219,10.423333333333334,10.45815,spk_0,the way we get the data from Gidley and the way
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220,10.458333333333334,10.497483333333332,spk_0,"we started in rails might not be prepared for that,"
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225 |
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221,10.49765,10.533833333333334,spk_0,not might not be optimized for that.
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222,10.538,10.589316666666669,spk_0,Um We can probably have some clever ways of doing
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223,10.589483333333334,10.637833333333331,spk_0,"it a little bit differently if not perfectly fine,"
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224,10.64015,10.648483333333331,spk_0,but
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225,10.6525,10.682666666666666,spk_0,"we'll in this part of the effort,"
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230 |
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226,10.682816666666668,10.744833333333334,spk_0,we'll reassess all of these parts to see is there any way that we can do it better?
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227,10.745,10.788483333333334,spk_0,So the scope is rendering a diff
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228,10.799,10.847,spk_0,allowing the user to customize the way it
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229,10.847166666666666,10.899333333333333,spk_0,sees the diff uh because preferences are relevant.
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230,10.908333333333331,10.960666666666668,spk_0,"Um But it's much more deeper than that,"
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235 |
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231,10.960833333333332,11.029333333333334,spk_0,"it goes back to all the way down to Galli and the way we get the information from,"
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232,11.0295,11.064483333333332,spk_0,"from that side is that, is that clear?"
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237 |
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233,11.07265,11.107333333333331,spk_0,"Is that fair? Sorry? Might, you might disagree with me?"
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234,11.12665,11.149,spk_1,Uh Does it mean that
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235,11.161983333333334,11.195166666666667,spk_1,"we're going to increase that I,"
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236,11.198,11.21515,spk_1,that we currently have
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241 |
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237,11.222816666666668,11.242316666666667,spk_1,or we're going to remove them?
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242 |
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238,11.270833333333334,11.281816666666666,spk_1,Sorry. What was that?
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243 |
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239,11.28415,11.301983333333334,spk_0,What was that Patrick?
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244 |
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240,11.3035,11.322166666666666,spk_0,"-- Does it mean that we're
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-- go,"
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241,11.322333333333331,11.381333333333334,spk_1,does it mean that we're going to increase the limits that we currently have
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242,11.41515,11.427983333333334,spk_1,or
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243,11.43815,11.445,spk_1,remove it?
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244,11.451983333333333,11.45365,spk_1,T
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245,11.471483333333332,11.47565,spk_1,is that a
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251 |
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246,11.48015,11.48415,spk_1,"good,"
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252 |
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247,11.552333333333332,11.579666666666666,spk_0,"you're talking about the application limits, right."
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253 |
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248,11.588,11.59265,spk_1,Yep.
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254 |
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249,11.596,11.6125,spk_1,"Yeah, the different limits."
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255 |
+
250,11.62265,11.633983333333331,spk_0,Um
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256 |
+
251,11.668316666666666,11.694166666666666,spk_0,The application limits were
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257 |
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252,11.7015,11.723333333333333,spk_0,designed
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258 |
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253,11.730983333333333,11.77865,spk_0,to fit the current way we deliver gifts to the browser.
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259 |
+
254,11.797333333333333,11.858333333333333,spk_0,I would say that we could think about it and potentially
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260 |
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255,11.8755,11.907816666666667,spk_0,"uh we don't, I think"
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261 |
+
256,11.921166666666666,11.941,spk_0,"we're probably gonna need to,"
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262 |
+
257,11.942,11.986833333333331,spk_0,to think about a way to build this on the side of what we have.
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263 |
+
258,11.986983333333333,12.038483333333334,spk_0,"So we're probably gonna be, you know, new end points,"
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264 |
+
259,12.038666666666666,12.113316666666666,spk_0,"new API S kind of thing and we might have different application limits there,"
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265 |
+
260,12.113483333333331,12.15065,spk_0,whatever makes sense to keep the stability of the platform.
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266 |
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261,12.150816666666667,12.167,spk_0,"So I, I would say"
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267 |
+
262,12.180666666666667,12.198816666666668,spk_0,"I would say yes, but"
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268 |
+
263,12.2075,12.22865,spk_0,I think it's up to us to
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269 |
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264,12.242166666666666,12.301816666666667,spk_0,"to test those limits. If they're working, we keep, we should keep it"
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270 |
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265,12.304816666666667,12.339833333333331,spk_0,"and if they're not working, we should revise them."
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271 |
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266,12.373,12.407333333333334,spk_4,I think part of this issue here is also really the
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272 |
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267,12.4075,12.464483333333334,spk_4,"giddily api that we provide from our side because currently,"
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273 |
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268,12.464666666666666,12.5005,spk_4,"as you already said, um the api that giddily"
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274 |
+
269,12.503816666666667,12.52665,spk_4,provides is
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275 |
+
270,12.538833333333333,12.584983333333334,spk_4,not really ideal when it comes to rendering this because
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276 |
+
271,12.58515,12.6335,spk_4,"we don't really provide an incremental way to give you,"
|
277 |
+
272,12.633666666666668,12.685666666666666,spk_4,"for example, this for only parts of an Mr for example."
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278 |
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273,12.691666666666666,12.72665,spk_4,And this is something where I feel like we in the
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279 |
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274,12.729983333333331,12.799,spk_4,G team should really iterate on our current API design and make this better so
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280 |
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275,12.799166666666666,12.851983333333331,spk_4,that uh that so that we can support your needs in a better way.
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281 |
+
276,12.91615,12.941483333333334,spk_0,"Yeah, I agree. Patrick, thank you."
|
282 |
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277,12.94865,13.019166666666669,spk_0,"Uh I think it's important to, to, to be aware that at this moment"
|
283 |
+
278,13.023166666666668,13.0605,spk_0,we're not accounting for level of effort
|
284 |
+
279,13.064316666666668,13.079333333333333,spk_0,that comes later.
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285 |
+
280,13.082816666666666,13.16515,spk_0,"OK? If we think about all the work that needs to get done for this, it's a lot of work."
|
286 |
+
281,13.171816666666668,13.184983333333332,spk_0,Um
|
287 |
+
282,13.194833333333332,13.25715,spk_0,But we're not gonna stop ourselves right away to just do the simplest things.
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288 |
+
283,13.257333333333332,13.291833333333331,spk_0,We want something that gets to the goal and then
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289 |
+
284,13.292,13.33115,spk_0,we'll plan the implementation around that as we go forward.
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290 |
+
285,13.331333333333331,13.346816666666667,spk_0,"But for now,"
|
291 |
+
286,13.35065,13.377166666666668,spk_0,everything is up for revision
|
292 |
+
287,13.380983333333331,13.464,spk_0,"and it's up to us later. Like that's a future problem, a future self problem. Um"
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293 |
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288,13.472483333333331,13.516,spk_0,"Thanks Patrick. I think that's, that's pretty, pretty spot on"
|
294 |
+
289,13.593833333333333,13.66415,spk_5,and uh just a quick question. Just for clarification.
|
295 |
+
290,13.665666666666668,13.709316666666666,spk_5,I had an impression that uh this new DS
|
296 |
+
291,13.71315,13.7295,spk_5,"initiative,"
|
297 |
+
292,13.734316666666668,13.790833333333332,spk_5,"uh it's like uh we already have like magic requests,"
|
298 |
+
293,13.79665,13.80365,spk_5,uh commit
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299 |
+
294,13.8065,13.80715,spk_5,Ds
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300 |
+
295,13.812833333333334,13.86115,spk_5,"and it's like it works, works perfectly,"
|
301 |
+
296,13.861316666666667,13.946816666666669,spk_5,but it's not so performance and not so scalable you want and we want to have it like
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302 |
+
297,13.948483333333334,13.986983333333333,spk_5,"to work, uh have it work faster."
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303 |
+
298,13.989,14.073483333333334,spk_5,"Yeah, but after this discussion, I have an impression that uh it's not the case yet."
|
304 |
+
299,14.07365,14.142833333333334,spk_5,We just want to improve like the quality and it doesn't mean that uh
|
305 |
+
300,14.143,14.204816666666666,spk_5,we it's only performance and only scalability
|
306 |
+
301,14.204983333333333,14.269483333333334,spk_5,we like considering all the aspects of
|
307 |
+
302,14.27265,14.276166666666668,spk_5,this
|
308 |
+
303,14.2785,14.30615,spk_5,or correct me if I'm wrong.
|
309 |
+
304,14.364666666666666,14.378983333333334,spk_0,Um
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310 |
+
305,14.384316666666669,14.443483333333331,spk_0,That's a really interesting question with a really vague
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311 |
+
306,14.445833333333333,14.472166666666666,spk_0,answer in my part
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312 |
+
307,14.48615,14.534316666666667,spk_0,"because it, it's really to be defined. And I'll give you an example"
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313 |
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308,14.544833333333331,14.5825,spk_0,what we like. The current implementation of
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314 |
+
309,14.584316666666666,14.58915,spk_0,DS
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315 |
+
310,14.6095,14.6545,spk_0,"satisfies the need, presenting the gift to the users,"
|
316 |
+
311,14.6585,14.666833333333331,spk_0,right?
|
317 |
+
312,14.674333333333331,14.727166666666667,spk_0,"However, as we're iterating towards a new solution,"
|
318 |
+
313,14.7295,14.793833333333334,spk_0,there might be opportunities to solve long running problems.
|
319 |
+
314,14.794,14.8125,spk_0,And I'll give you an example
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320 |
+
315,14.822166666666666,14.879816666666668,spk_0,"right now. Every comment is attached to a, to a line"
|
321 |
+
316,14.88615,14.923816666666667,spk_0,and a line it exists on a revision
|
322 |
+
317,14.929166666666667,14.977166666666667,spk_0,of an uh a merger quest or a branch comparison with something
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323 |
+
318,14.98515,14.995833333333334,spk_0,um
|
324 |
+
319,15.009833333333331,15.05915,spk_0,"which gets trickier because on the merger quests,"
|
325 |
+
320,15.073816666666668,15.116833333333334,spk_0,"we're constantly comparing to the moving target,"
|
326 |
+
321,15.117,15.16415,spk_0,"the the moving head of the target branch, right?"
|
327 |
+
322,15.164316666666666,15.213,spk_0,"Uh The patches might be the same, we have some patch ID where"
|
328 |
+
323,15.21615,15.229983333333331,spk_0,flight and everything.
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329 |
+
324,15.25365,15.29865,spk_0,"But we're attaching it to the line, right?"
|
330 |
+
325,15.318483333333331,15.37,spk_0,We have a bunch of ideas and features that rely on
|
331 |
+
326,15.370166666666666,15.428816666666666,spk_0,being able to leave comments on things other than the line.
|
332 |
+
327,15.430983333333334,15.465483333333331,spk_0,"For example, commit message."
|
333 |
+
328,15.468483333333332,15.525333333333334,spk_0,Why shouldn't the reviewer be able to comment on the commit message?
|
334 |
+
329,15.541,15.598,spk_0,"There's other things like um instead of comedy on a line,"
|
335 |
+
330,15.609666666666667,15.67,spk_0,"we should, why not be able to comment on a code object?"
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336 |
+
331,15.670166666666669,15.727333333333334,spk_0,"And if you think about an if clause four loop,"
|
337 |
+
332,15.72765,15.779333333333334,spk_0,"if you can attach the comment to that structure of code,"
|
338 |
+
333,15.7795,15.82,spk_0,"if somebody adds lines at the top,"
|
339 |
+
334,15.826333333333332,15.842833333333331,spk_0,the comment
|
340 |
+
335,15.84465,15.890666666666666,spk_0,should still apply to the structure if that's unchanged.
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341 |
+
336,15.894,15.902816666666666,spk_0,"And you've seen some,"
|
342 |
+
337,15.902983333333331,15.964,spk_0,we've seen some competitors doing this uh like code review specific tools.
|
343 |
+
338,15.975166666666668,16.03415,spk_0,"So here's, here's how I reframe it to this effort to answer your question."
|
344 |
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339,16.04681666666667,16.08115,spk_0,We might think of a way to
|
345 |
+
340,16.084983333333334,16.097166666666666,spk_0,um
|
346 |
+
341,16.124333333333333,16.183833333333332,spk_0,rethink the address ability of comments on a diff.
|
347 |
+
342,16.185316666666665,16.25265,spk_0,Is it attached to a line or is attached to a vague object that has
|
348 |
+
343,16.252816666666668,16.316666666666666,spk_0,"some sort of ur I that allows us to resolve the location of it,"
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349 |
+
344,16.31865,16.325983333333333,spk_0,right?
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350 |
+
345,16.329666666666668,16.363483333333335,spk_0,"If we do that work now, in this effort,"
|
351 |
+
346,16.363666666666667,16.416483333333332,spk_0,design a way to like like an address format which
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352 |
+
347,16.416666666666668,16.4605,spk_0,"is sort of like a URL for comments on diffs,"
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353 |
+
348,16.470316666666665,16.554816666666667,spk_0,we should be able to later on build these new features going beyond the D
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354 |
+
349,16.557333333333332,16.562833333333334,spk_0,line.
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355 |
+
350,16.571816666666667,16.581333333333333,spk_0,But
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356 |
+
351,16.585833333333333,16.627333333333333,spk_0,"for now, we're just talking about the architecture"
|
357 |
+
352,16.6305,16.681816666666666,spk_0,for what we currently have to satisfy those needs.
|
358 |
+
353,16.685316666666665,16.727983333333334,spk_0,"It doesn't stop us from thinking about what, what,"
|
359 |
+
354,16.728166666666667,16.75733333333333,spk_0,what doors we could open for the future.
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360 |
+
355,16.7575,16.796166666666668,spk_0,That's why it's an architecture effort where
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361 |
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356,16.798816666666667,16.824,spk_0,we're thinking about the future.
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362 |
+
357,16.829666666666668,16.89965,spk_0,"But we're targeting, if anything, if, if to answer a little bit more directly,"
|
363 |
+
358,16.900333333333332,16.929333333333332,spk_0,"feature parody would be OK,"
|
364 |
+
359,16.943316666666668,17.01315,spk_0,"like if we have a way to render Ds, that gets what we have today, I"
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365 |
+
360,17.01515,17.0355,spk_0,think that's a success.
|
366 |
+
361,17.039483333333333,17.071166666666667,spk_0,"If we can go beyond that, that's amazing."
|
367 |
+
362,17.07133333333333,17.116833333333332,spk_0,"But we should always account for, for example,"
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368 |
+
363,17.117,17.176483333333334,spk_0,uh the common should be able to leave suggestions on the Ds uh
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369 |
+
364,17.1853,17.222466666666666,spk_0,"Because that we have, we have that today. Now,"
|
370 |
+
365,17.22465,17.2945,spk_0,does that apply to merger quests only or does that apply to the repository as well?
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371 |
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366,17.297466666666665,17.334483333333335,spk_0,That's part of the conversations we'll be having along the way
|
372 |
+
367,17.371,17.376483333333333,spk_0,long
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373 |
+
368,17.378316666666667,17.39131666666667,spk_0,waited answer
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374 |
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369,17.393466666666665,17.4275,spk_0,"is that, is that, does that add any clarity?"
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375 |
+
370,17.429666666666666,17.432983333333333,spk_0,Igor
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376 |
+
371,17.440166666666666,17.478650000000002,spk_5,"uh Yeah, thanks. Thanks for the answer."
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377 |
+
372,17.478816666666667,17.568483333333333,spk_5,So then I maybe I would suggest uh and one of the action items is uh
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378 |
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373,17.569333333333333,17.68515,spk_5,gathering all the existing issues and ideas that we have um already um in one place
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379 |
+
374,17.690416666666668,17.774566666666665,spk_5,"in case uh unless you want like uh to start, have a fresh start. Yeah."
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380 |
+
375,17.774733333333334,17.87375,spk_5,"And uh get the new ideas and then compare them to the, to the old ones. But maybe, yeah."
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381 |
+
376,17.873916666666666,17.935066666666668,spk_5,Uh let's maybe let's have the old ideas so we could
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382 |
+
377,17.939583333333335,18.00225,spk_5,uh like see the problems that we need to solve or
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383 |
+
378,18.01415,18.05365,spk_5,"um yeah, by our new architecture."
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384 |
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379,18.06733333333333,18.079166666666666,spk_5,Yeah. Thank you.
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385 |
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380,18.0835,18.091316666666668,spk_0,That's fair.
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386 |
+
381,18.091483333333333,18.140816666666662,spk_0,I added a note here to the immediate task that we'll talk about in just a second.
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387 |
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382,18.15115,18.165,spk_0,"Yes, I think you're right."
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388 |
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383,18.165166666666668,18.200166666666668,spk_0,"I think we, that is something that will be, for example,"
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389 |
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384,18.200333333333333,18.251816666666667,spk_0,we know this because we've been working on this on the code review side of things.
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390 |
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385,18.25198333333333,18.27198333333333,spk_0,"But I don't expect, you know,"
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391 |
+
386,18.27215,18.315,spk_0,Patrick from Italy or you from source code to know about what
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392 |
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387,18.315166666666663,18.346833333333333,spk_0,we've been talking about on the product side of code review.
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393 |
+
388,18.34698333333333,18.359483333333333,spk_0,For sure.
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394 |
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389,18.36565,18.397316666666665,spk_0,That's definitely gonna be part of
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395 |
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390,18.41015,18.455816666666667,spk_0,the uh the tasks I'm just checking.
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396 |
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391,18.45798333333333,18.5175,spk_0,OK. So it's a 50 minute call. So we have a bit more like 30 minutes.
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397 |
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392,18.532316666666667,18.622816666666665,spk_0,"OK? Um What else? That's the scope, the scope can move on."
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398 |
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393,18.623,18.657316666666667,spk_0,Can we move on from the scope? Is that clear for everybody?
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399 |
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394,18.72533333333333,18.7335,spk_0,Awesome.
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400 |
+
395,18.753316666666667,18.7985,spk_0,So then in terms of objectives like performance not
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401 |
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396,18.798666666666666,18.83566666666667,spk_0,"being degraded regardless of how big the Mr is,"
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402 |
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397,18.835833333333333,18.87848333333333,spk_0,I feel like that's clear for everybody having some
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403 |
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398,18.87865,18.92815,spk_0,"sort of progressive ways of getting data rendering,"
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404 |
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399,18.928316666666667,18.968316666666663,spk_0,"data caching, all that stuff."
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405 |
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400,18.9715,18.996983333333333,spk_0,Um That's good.
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406 |
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401,19.00483333333333,19.05633333333333,spk_0,"And this again, this means different things for each one of us. For the front end."
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407 |
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402,19.0565,19.096833333333333,spk_0,It means that we'll have to find ways so that the
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408 |
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403,19.100166666666667,19.10815,spk_0,front end
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409 |
+
404,19.111816666666662,19.18166666666667,spk_0,architecture is not compromised when the Mr starts to get large.
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410 |
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405,19.19098333333333,19.20148333333333,spk_0,Um
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411 |
+
406,19.223666666666663,19.264666666666667,spk_0,"Anything, any other objectives that we should"
|
412 |
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407,19.267333333333333,19.282,spk_0,keep in mind?
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413 |
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408,19.323666666666668,19.351316666666666,spk_5,I I have a quick question.
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414 |
+
409,19.35148333333333,19.443316666666668,spk_5,"Yeah, but feel free to uh let me know that we should discuss it uh later at some point"
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415 |
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410,19.44765,19.51398333333333,spk_5,uh regarding the highlighting on the front end.
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416 |
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411,19.51565,19.52065,spk_5,Yeah.
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417 |
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412,19.524316666666667,19.5425,spk_5,"Uh I, I, sorry,"
|
418 |
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413,19.542666666666666,19.59365,spk_5,I haven't checked this initiative yet but I remember
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419 |
+
414,19.593833333333333,19.64183333333333,spk_5,that we uh developed uh some part of it.
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420 |
+
415,19.644,19.698166666666665,spk_5,Uh just wanted to know at which stage we are.
|
421 |
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416,19.69833333333333,19.75398333333333,spk_5,Is it like fully rolled out or do we have any blockers?
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422 |
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417,19.823833333333333,19.825333333333333,spk_0,Z
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423 |
+
418,19.82733333333333,19.842816666666668,spk_0,do you want to talk about that?
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424 |
+
419,19.934166666666663,19.995833333333334,spk_6,Uh Are you referring to the syntax highlighting of the blobs?
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425 |
+
420,20.007816666666667,20.014666666666667,spk_6,Yeah.
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426 |
+
421,20.0175,20.02265,spk_6,Yeah.
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427 |
+
422,20.034166666666668,20.109166666666667,spk_6,Yeah. That would be a separate initiative. I think like um
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428 |
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423,20.11133333333333,20.14715,spk_6,the syntax highlighting of the blobs
|
429 |
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424,20.167816666666667,20.24,spk_6,"like the holidays that we use there doesn't really do this as far as,"
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430 |
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425,20.240166666666667,20.261,spk_6,as far as I'm aware.
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431 |
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426,20.278316666666665,20.287316666666666,spk_6,Um
|
432 |
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427,20.304166666666667,20.376316666666668,spk_6,"And it's also separate separate screens as well. Like viewing a blob is not,"
|
433 |
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428,20.383666666666667,20.47665,spk_6,"is not related to viewing a, a specific commit or, or comparing it to a"
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434 |
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429,20.48465,20.526316666666663,spk_6,"-- different commit. It's a separate
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435 |
+
-- page."
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436 |
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430,20.556833333333334,20.601,spk_0,"Yeah. Thanks Jack. I feel like that's, that's exactly right."
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437 |
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431,20.60115,20.6295,spk_0,We've been taking some lessons from that.
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438 |
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432,20.629666666666665,20.711483333333334,spk_0,It was a nice experiment but it rendering a blob is different than rendering a patch
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439 |
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433,20.715816666666665,20.78515,spk_0,and we've noticed that it can lead to incorrect uh highlighting.
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440 |
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434,20.7905,20.8045,spk_0,"However,"
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441 |
+
435,20.819666666666667,20.852666666666668,spk_0,I think it's important to keep in mind
|
442 |
+
436,20.858833333333333,20.88,spk_0,the lessons there
|
443 |
+
437,20.894816666666667,20.91848333333333,spk_0,"because if we're,"
|
444 |
+
438,20.942666666666668,21.023,spk_0,"if we accept the imprecision of the highlight is an acceptable cost,"
|
445 |
+
439,21.040166666666668,21.051483333333334,spk_0,we can try it.
|
446 |
+
440,21.0565,21.067816666666666,spk_0,So
|
447 |
+
441,21.07933333333333,21.125,spk_0,"that's again, at the moment, we don't think"
|
448 |
+
442,21.127666666666663,21.14183333333333,spk_0,that would be applicable.
|
449 |
+
443,21.142,21.17383333333333,spk_0,"But if anybody has any other thoughts on that,"
|
450 |
+
444,21.17398333333333,21.227166666666665,spk_0,but we could defer the highlighting to the front end or we can pre
|
451 |
+
445,21.23,21.25483333333333,spk_0,render it in some ways
|
452 |
+
446,21.268833333333333,21.292816666666667,spk_0,all of that is
|
453 |
+
447,21.296983333333333,21.39515,spk_0,uh valid and a part of this um gathering existing issues and potential proposals.
|
454 |
+
448,21.395316666666663,21.4625,spk_0,Uh I know that carry um you had previously proposed something like
|
455 |
+
449,21.478,21.552333333333333,spk_0,do more of prec calculation of the data that we need to render the DS.
|
456 |
+
450,21.55615,21.591666666666665,spk_0,I think we wanna need to revisit that at some point.
|
457 |
+
451,21.59233333333333,21.6465,spk_0,Um So let's make sure that those issues are created
|
458 |
+
452,21.64666666666667,21.694333333333333,spk_0,and documented at least and highlighted here in this um
|
459 |
+
453,21.705816666666667,21.748,spk_0,"effort. Uh Well, well, I don't know, we'll have a,"
|
460 |
+
454,21.759,21.78065,spk_0,let's create an Epic
|
461 |
+
455,21.803,21.817666666666668,spk_0,"and,"
|
462 |
+
456,21.8195,21.8235,spk_0,or
|
463 |
+
457,21.8355,21.847316666666668,spk_0,"Epic,"
|
464 |
+
458,21.8525,21.885316666666668,spk_0,we don't want to move them from the current Epics.
|
465 |
+
459,21.89816666666667,21.899316666666667,spk_0,It's
|
466 |
+
460,21.90198333333333,21.948833333333333,spk_0,an issue and document them all there.
|
467 |
+
461,21.95565,22.0085,spk_0,"OK? I'll, I'll assign that desk in just a bit to somebody."
|
468 |
+
462,22.029166666666665,22.061,spk_0,Does that make sense? Scary of like bringing that
|
469 |
+
463,22.06415,22.080166666666667,spk_0,thing back?
|
470 |
+
464,22.08948333333333,22.098,spk_0,OK.
|
471 |
+
465,22.106666666666666,22.11916666666667,spk_0,Um
|
472 |
+
466,22.13833333333333,22.19183333333333,spk_0,"Highlighting on the front end. OK. Does that satisfy your question, Igor"
|
473 |
+
467,22.218316666666663,22.2875,spk_5,"Yeah. Yeah. And if I have a half a minute, I can explain why I actually asked"
|
474 |
+
468,22.294,22.29433333333333,spk_5,you.
|
475 |
+
469,22.296166666666668,22.319816666666668,spk_5,"Uh uh Because yeah,"
|
476 |
+
470,22.32248333333333,22.353316666666668,spk_5,when I think about performance of the
|
477 |
+
471,22.355,22.35565,spk_5,"DS,"
|
478 |
+
472,22.3635,22.41815,spk_5,"I remember that we do something like, for example, we have ad"
|
479 |
+
473,22.41998333333333,22.49065,spk_5,for file and currently we fetch the old version of the D
|
480 |
+
474,22.49683333333333,22.564666666666668,spk_5,uh old version of the whole block and the new version of the whole block
|
481 |
+
475,22.571666666666665,22.61133333333333,spk_5,uh just to highlight the D
|
482 |
+
476,22.614833333333333,22.628816666666665,spk_5,correctly.
|
483 |
+
477,22.631666666666668,22.709333333333333,spk_5,"Uh why uh uh do, why do we do historically"
|
484 |
+
478,22.71283333333333,22.78783333333333,spk_5,uh just because we want the D to be correct because sometimes uh
|
485 |
+
479,22.791316666666667,22.82133333333333,spk_5,it's uh context
|
486 |
+
480,22.823166666666665,22.830816666666667,spk_5,related.
|
487 |
+
481,22.83098333333333,22.90883333333333,spk_5,"Yeah, for example, you have a stream opened like 10 lines somewhere higher."
|
488 |
+
482,22.91133333333333,22.934,spk_5,"Uh Yeah, behind the D"
|
489 |
+
483,22.941666666666663,23.00198333333333,spk_5,and uh we still want to highlight it correctly.
|
490 |
+
484,23.004666666666665,23.01398333333333,spk_5,"So,"
|
491 |
+
485,23.017166666666668,23.024483333333333,spk_5,"yeah,"
|
492 |
+
486,23.027166666666663,23.102666666666668,spk_5,"uh I believe if we start discussing performance improvements of the depths,"
|
493 |
+
487,23.102833333333333,23.16865,spk_5,these are the questions that we probably will be uh
|
494 |
+
488,23.16883333333333,23.23333333333333,spk_5,often try to solve and find like the new tradeoffs.
|
495 |
+
489,23.234816666666667,23.2855,spk_5,"So yeah, it's something that we can"
|
496 |
+
490,23.289316666666668,23.37333333333333,spk_5,"uh discuss later. But yeah, a lot of tradeoffs will be involved."
|
497 |
+
491,23.379166666666663,23.392666666666667,spk_5,"So yeah,"
|
498 |
+
492,23.396833333333333,23.416666666666668,spk_5,one of the examples
|
499 |
+
493,23.45381666666667,23.481666666666666,spk_2,I was doing um a
|
500 |
+
494,23.494333333333334,23.50815,spk_2,like for
|
501 |
+
495,23.511,23.52415,spk_2,highlighting
|
502 |
+
496,23.53,23.5405,spk_2,in the
|
503 |
+
497,23.546666666666667,23.586816666666667,spk_2,"little, it's like micro app that I wrote."
|
504 |
+
498,23.590333333333334,23.6335,spk_2,Um that was the exact problem that I ran into.
|
505 |
+
499,23.633666666666667,23.67333333333333,spk_2,I never actually saw incorrect highlighting
|
506 |
+
500,23.677666666666667,23.7695,spk_2,"but the flaw was there where if we didn't have the whole lab, um it,"
|
507 |
+
501,23.769666666666662,23.80633333333333,spk_2,"it could have highlighted incorrectly because of what you said, you know,"
|
508 |
+
502,23.8065,23.858833333333333,spk_2,"30 lines up, something happened that needed that changed the highlighting."
|
509 |
+
503,23.86615,23.8755,spk_2,Um
|
510 |
+
504,23.9,23.937316666666668,spk_2,If we have to fetch the whole blob anyway.
|
511 |
+
505,23.94565,23.994983333333334,spk_2,"Um in, in my opinion, uh"
|
512 |
+
506,24.017666666666667,24.02198333333333,spk_2,front
|
513 |
+
507,24.023983333333334,24.03865,spk_2,end highlighting
|
514 |
+
508,24.044166666666666,24.075333333333333,spk_2,allows us more flexibility
|
515 |
+
509,24.08031666666667,24.176,spk_2,um because we can wait until the user scrolls to near the file to highlight it.
|
516 |
+
510,24.18265,24.191316666666665,spk_2,But
|
517 |
+
511,24.194666666666667,24.226983333333333,spk_2,"there's a lot of, there's a lot, like you said,"
|
518 |
+
512,24.227166666666665,24.256833333333333,spk_2,there's a lot of tradeoffs because now you've got
|
519 |
+
513,24.257,24.288166666666665,spk_2,to deliver the whole blog to the front end.
|
520 |
+
514,24.28833333333333,24.294,spk_2,"So,"
|
521 |
+
515,24.3445,24.40348333333333,spk_0,"so what the way I envision this and if you have better ideas, this is like,"
|
522 |
+
516,24.40365,24.438816666666668,spk_0,please propose is that as the
|
523 |
+
517,24.4445,24.46815,spk_0,"discussions evolve,"
|
524 |
+
518,24.476983333333333,24.498666666666665,spk_0,we're probably gonna have
|
525 |
+
519,24.5045,24.592166666666667,spk_0,big topics in specific calls to be discussed and also be discussed as synchronously
|
526 |
+
520,24.605166666666666,24.666833333333333,spk_0,"as we go, we'll highlight, we'll pick these topics and we'll broadcast them all."
|
527 |
+
521,24.667,24.69633333333333,spk_0,"Like, let's have a discussion on the syntax highway."
|
528 |
+
522,24.69915,24.71565,spk_0,Let's have a discussion on
|
529 |
+
523,24.71815,24.72215,spk_0,caching.
|
530 |
+
524,24.722316666666668,24.75548333333333,spk_0,Let's have a discussion on those things because we're gonna
|
531 |
+
525,24.75565,24.79433333333333,spk_0,need some help in figuring out some of the possibilities
|
532 |
+
526,24.79948333333333,24.849316666666667,spk_0,because there's a bunch of possibilities on how do we wanna address this.
|
533 |
+
527,24.8625,24.885316666666668,spk_0,But we need to come with a
|
534 |
+
528,24.892,24.947316666666666,spk_0,choice or some choices for the architectural design.
|
535 |
+
529,24.94748333333333,24.990166666666667,spk_0,"So uh this will be one of them since that's how,"
|
536 |
+
530,24.9905,25.02665,spk_0,since that's how I is gonna have to be part of it.
|
537 |
+
531,25.051316666666665,25.10165,spk_0,Ok. Thanks Igor. Thanks Thomas. Thanks Jack. Uh
|
538 |
+
532,25.1105,25.133333333333333,spk_0,and Carry. Um
|
539 |
+
533,25.156333333333333,25.167,spk_0,Moving on.
|
540 |
+
534,25.167166666666667,25.236,spk_0,One of the things that we have already talked and I talked to Paulina about this is
|
541 |
+
535,25.24948333333333,25.32881666666667,spk_0,we know that accessibility isn't the best today on the merging
|
542 |
+
536,25.330816666666667,25.35115,spk_0,best diffs or
|
543 |
+
537,25.353483333333333,25.39515,spk_0,Ds overall because we haven't paid too much attention to that.
|
544 |
+
538,25.40115,25.44633333333333,spk_0,Since we're rethinking a lot of this as a
|
545 |
+
539,25.4545,25.50365,spk_0,"quality usability improvement,"
|
546 |
+
540,25.503816666666665,25.58566666666667,spk_0,it will be um really good if you start incorporating accessibility from the start.
|
547 |
+
541,25.591833333333334,25.612316666666665,spk_0,"So, um"
|
548 |
+
542,25.62398333333333,25.648333333333333,spk_0,how should we wear this Paulina?
|
549 |
+
543,25.65115,25.66015,spk_0,Um
|
550 |
+
544,25.68265,25.70233333333333,spk_0,"Is it accessible,"
|
551 |
+
545,25.72665,25.733833333333333,spk_1,accessible?
|
552 |
+
546,25.7775,25.786816666666667,spk_1,Um
|
553 |
+
547,25.83783333333333,25.84565,spk_7,"Yeah,"
|
554 |
+
548,25.8565,25.90815,spk_7,yeah. So uh I started the document already. I'll be
|
555 |
+
549,25.91215,25.92615,spk_7,doing the audit of
|
556 |
+
550,25.929166666666667,25.953316666666662,spk_7,this now and
|
557 |
+
551,25.961483333333334,25.9925,spk_7,analyzing what's missing right now.
|
558 |
+
552,25.99965,26.047316666666667,spk_7,But also the second part will be like looking at
|
559 |
+
553,26.04748333333333,26.10115,spk_7,the guidelines that we should actually follow for the authoring tool
|
560 |
+
554,26.107983333333333,26.119666666666667,spk_7,and
|
561 |
+
555,26.128316666666667,26.16165,spk_7,rethinking about how we want to
|
562 |
+
556,26.167666666666666,26.28265,spk_7,show of representatives uh to screen reader users. Um for all the other
|
563 |
+
557,26.2875,26.311333333333334,spk_7,parties like small twigs
|
564 |
+
558,26.317,26.36865,spk_7,"or tab navigation and things. But for the screen reader,"
|
565 |
+
559,26.37465,26.437666666666665,spk_7,it's a bit tricky because what we show is very graphic right now
|
566 |
+
560,26.440816666666667,26.46448333333333,spk_7,and uh we need to
|
567 |
+
561,26.472316666666668,26.511333333333333,spk_7,be able to like for the screener to
|
568 |
+
562,26.519,26.534,spk_7,like read it
|
569 |
+
563,26.538166666666665,26.58115,spk_7,computed uh with the relations between
|
570 |
+
564,26.58515,26.63948333333333,spk_7,the number of lines and that code changed. Um
|
571 |
+
565,26.64498333333333,26.696,spk_7,And all the extra features that commenting. Um
|
572 |
+
566,26.7025,26.70348333333333,spk_7,"So,"
|
573 |
+
567,26.715816666666665,26.732166666666668,spk_0,so in terms of
|
574 |
+
568,26.742166666666662,26.772816666666667,spk_0,like accessibility is such a wide
|
575 |
+
569,26.790333333333333,26.817666666666668,spk_0,concept and term
|
576 |
+
570,26.827166666666667,26.884816666666666,spk_0,when we're talking about spec um specific um
|
577 |
+
571,26.887833333333333,26.937666666666665,spk_0,making it a bit more specific. Um
|
578 |
+
572,26.94515,27.07465,spk_0,"we can, we can like narrow it down to uh screen reader users, keyboard navigation."
|
579 |
+
573,27.08915,27.101316666666666,spk_0,Um
|
580 |
+
574,27.123666666666665,27.130983333333333,spk_0,um
|
581 |
+
575,27.14883333333333,27.178,spk_0,And um I was
|
582 |
+
576,27.180316666666663,27.1875,spk_7,at
|
583 |
+
577,27.190166666666663,27.215333333333334,spk_7,um how to phrase it.
|
584 |
+
578,27.21865,27.247816666666665,spk_7,"It's like the visually, it's"
|
585 |
+
579,27.25198333333333,27.26365,spk_7,um
|
586 |
+
580,27.27415,27.327166666666667,spk_7,"it's as easy to read for, for everyone"
|
587 |
+
581,27.3335,27.35765,spk_0,visually comfortable is that
|
588 |
+
582,27.3735,27.37415,spk_7,sort
|
589 |
+
583,27.376316666666668,27.386,spk_7,of like
|
590 |
+
584,27.38983333333333,27.409,spk_7,contrast?
|
591 |
+
585,27.42333333333333,27.461816666666667,spk_7,"Um Yeah, if you, you study"
|
592 |
+
586,27.46365,27.488983333333334,spk_7,"like magnifiers,"
|
593 |
+
587,27.501816666666667,27.60933333333333,spk_7,"-- uh So we, we don't lose context with
|
594 |
+
-- so contrast uh color blindness."
|
595 |
+
588,27.612666666666662,27.652166666666663,spk_0,So fits law is about um
|
596 |
+
589,27.66398333333333,27.727166666666665,spk_0,"in a nutshell is the larger the target, it is the easier it is to acquire."
|
597 |
+
590,27.72733333333333,27.76083333333333,spk_0,So make it comfortable for people with
|
598 |
+
591,27.761,27.802666666666667,spk_0,you'd like some motion disabilities and stuff.
|
599 |
+
592,27.807166666666667,27.816316666666665,spk_0,Um
|
600 |
+
593,27.8235,27.836816666666667,spk_0,"So again,"
|
601 |
+
594,27.836983333333333,27.88648333333333,spk_0,if anything this will be leveraged by the designers that
|
602 |
+
595,27.88665,27.9155,spk_0,we will be bringing in at a later stage.
|
603 |
+
596,27.91565,27.96448333333333,spk_0,"Uh But as we're thinking about the front end architecture,"
|
604 |
+
597,27.964666666666663,27.98281666666667,spk_0,we should account for that.
|
605 |
+
598,27.992816666666663,28.03698333333333,spk_7,"Yes, it's design is, but also for screen,"
|
606 |
+
599,28.0405,28.085833333333333,spk_7,especially there's also a html structure
|
607 |
+
600,28.089316666666665,28.096666666666668,spk_7,um
|
608 |
+
601,28.098666666666663,28.109483333333333,spk_7,that is
|
609 |
+
602,28.11133333333333,28.13315,spk_7,needs to be very specific.
|
610 |
+
603,28.14965,28.16415,spk_0,Exactly.
|
611 |
+
604,28.164316666666668,28.221166666666665,spk_0,Uh I just wanted to remind that we're not going to be writing code right away.
|
612 |
+
605,28.22133333333333,28.246983333333333,spk_0,But when we're designing the document
|
613 |
+
606,28.24965,28.28098333333333,spk_0,"that should be there as a requirement,"
|
614 |
+
607,28.28115,28.30516666666667,spk_0,it's something that we need to be accounting for.
|
615 |
+
608,28.305316666666663,28.358833333333333,spk_0,So that's the expectation level. Great. This is good. Thanks.
|
616 |
+
609,28.359,28.394,spk_0,Anybody has any other thoughts about accessibility?
|
617 |
+
610,28.477833333333333,28.48315,spk_0,Cool.
|
618 |
+
611,28.48333333333333,28.557,spk_0,I feel like it's positive that we're talking about it at this stage of the project. Um
|
619 |
+
612,28.562666666666665,28.5815,spk_0,"Thomas, you have a point here."
|
620 |
+
613,28.593316666666663,28.61015,spk_0,"Yeah, so"
|
621 |
+
614,28.61598333333333,28.626483333333333,spk_0,we can
|
622 |
+
615,28.62865,28.630983333333333,spk_2,"cut,"
|
623 |
+
616,28.64816666666667,28.69233333333333,spk_2,we can kind of f accessibility into this. Um
|
624 |
+
617,28.70283333333333,28.73133333333333,spk_2,uh As part of my
|
625 |
+
618,28.733666666666668,28.769166666666667,spk_2,milestone stuff. I review all my assignments.
|
626 |
+
619,28.76933333333333,28.81215,spk_2,I was assigned a meta task for for new Ds.
|
627 |
+
620,28.813333333333333,28.853,spk_2,"So it's weird that I reviewed it because it's a meta task,"
|
628 |
+
621,28.85315,28.87983333333333,spk_2,but I wrote some thoughts down
|
629 |
+
622,28.882166666666667,28.925666666666668,spk_2,and one of them is um
|
630 |
+
623,28.9355,28.978483333333333,spk_2,writing down documents about like budgets
|
631 |
+
624,28.982983333333333,29.0045,spk_2,and data flow.
|
632 |
+
625,29.0085,29.030483333333333,spk_2,And um
|
633 |
+
626,29.03898333333333,29.046983333333333,spk_2,"when,"
|
634 |
+
627,29.04715,29.096,spk_2,when I talk about budgets in the implicit
|
635 |
+
628,29.096166666666665,29.13298333333333,spk_2,in that is our promises to users essentially.
|
636 |
+
629,29.13315,29.166666666666668,spk_2,And I think one of those things should be accessibility.
|
637 |
+
630,29.17015,29.179666666666662,spk_2,Um
|
638 |
+
631,29.185316666666665,29.20748333333333,spk_2,But other things are
|
639 |
+
632,29.223666666666663,29.23648333333333,spk_2,how
|
640 |
+
633,29.25283333333333,29.303816666666663,spk_2,heavy on the network is this new structure of
|
641 |
+
634,29.306833333333334,29.31148333333333,spk_2,DS.
|
642 |
+
635,29.3155,29.3985,spk_2,"Um How heavy on a user's browser, is this new application or,"
|
643 |
+
636,29.398666666666667,29.425833333333333,spk_2,"or new component or whatever,"
|
644 |
+
637,29.43915,29.45815,spk_2,how much code is executed?
|
645 |
+
638,29.45833333333333,29.495483333333333,spk_2,"How much, how much, how long does it take those kinds of things?"
|
646 |
+
639,29.504666666666665,29.54348333333333,spk_2,Setting those budgets early and saying
|
647 |
+
640,29.54948333333333,29.61148333333333,spk_2,uh whatever we do has to be fully accessible to
|
648 |
+
641,29.61798333333333,29.67615,spk_2,fully blind people or fully deaf people or whatever. Um
|
649 |
+
642,29.684483333333333,29.69548333333333,spk_2,um
|
650 |
+
643,29.702666666666666,29.754166666666663,spk_2,Those setting those early sets expectations for the whole
|
651 |
+
644,29.761166666666668,29.776816666666665,spk_2,work that we do.
|
652 |
+
645,29.780316666666668,29.826316666666667,spk_2,"Um So I think that that should be an early part of this documentation,"
|
653 |
+
646,29.82648333333333,29.86215,spk_2,"not just the architecture, but what are our,"
|
654 |
+
647,29.870316666666668,29.8815,spk_2,"what are,"
|
655 |
+
648,29.881666666666668,29.956666666666667,spk_2,what are the difficult choices that we will accept for the benefit of our users?
|
656 |
+
649,30.01631666666667,30.069816666666668,spk_2,"And I linked the, my, my review um"
|
657 |
+
650,30.07733333333333,30.115166666666667,spk_2,that has a few of those things in there. But
|
658 |
+
651,30.15165,30.214666666666663,spk_0,great thanks Thomas. Um I particularly like the budget documents.
|
659 |
+
652,30.223,30.276316666666663,spk_0,"Um The data flow, we were already like, you'll be part of,"
|
660 |
+
653,30.27698333333333,30.306666666666665,spk_0,"I think the documentation anyway,"
|
661 |
+
654,30.306833333333334,30.34915,spk_0,but uh the budget document is something that we can easily forget.
|
662 |
+
655,30.35615,30.369333333333334,spk_0,And
|
663 |
+
656,30.37265,30.383333333333333,spk_0,um
|
664 |
+
657,30.38915,30.43133333333333,spk_0,"when we're deciding about adding a new thing,"
|
665 |
+
658,30.4375,30.44748333333333,spk_0,"because you're right,"
|
666 |
+
659,30.44765,30.47865,spk_0,like we don't want to build something that is performance
|
667 |
+
660,30.478816666666667,30.52533333333333,spk_0,on the day one and then on day 365.
|
668 |
+
661,30.5255,30.551316666666665,spk_0,"0 my God, it's slow again. Why?"
|
669 |
+
662,30.561,30.608666666666668,spk_0,"Yeah, definitely something to keep us in check. Um"
|
670 |
+
663,30.62183333333333,30.67065,spk_0,uh Potentially we can even talk about um
|
671 |
+
664,30.67848333333333,30.694166666666668,spk_0,linking
|
672 |
+
665,30.71215,30.725166666666667,spk_0,to like
|
673 |
+
666,30.73048333333333,30.74115,spk_0,adding
|
674 |
+
667,30.74965,30.841833333333334,spk_0,"linking tools C I checks, et cetera. Definitely makes sense to keep us in line."
|
675 |
+
668,30.867166666666662,30.878,spk_0,And I guess
|
676 |
+
669,30.884816666666666,30.948166666666665,spk_2,"we should probably, I should probably note somewhere. We should note that um"
|
677 |
+
670,30.95165,30.986166666666666,spk_2,the word budget is intentional because
|
678 |
+
671,30.990816666666667,31.06815,spk_2,"budgets are reviewed quarterly or yearly. And if you're not meeting them, you"
|
679 |
+
672,31.0735,31.084816666666665,spk_2,um
|
680 |
+
673,31.091666666666665,31.10683333333333,spk_2,you adjust
|
681 |
+
674,31.120483333333333,31.136816666666668,spk_2,to meet your budget.
|
682 |
+
675,31.136983333333333,31.175166666666662,spk_2,"So we should make sure that we're, we're continually doing this,"
|
683 |
+
676,31.17533333333333,31.19748333333333,spk_2,not just as an initial target.
|
684 |
+
677,31.229666666666667,31.2485,spk_0,Got it. Thanks.
|
685 |
+
678,31.253316666666667,31.262316666666667,spk_0,Uh
|
686 |
+
679,31.28783333333333,31.307316666666665,spk_0,ok. So
|
687 |
+
680,31.319666666666667,31.33865,spk_0,there was one thing
|
688 |
+
681,31.3425,31.385316666666668,spk_0,that has been throughout all these discussions
|
689 |
+
682,31.38865,31.436,spk_0,"that we haven't talked yet, which is maintainability."
|
690 |
+
683,31.44033333333333,31.47733333333333,spk_0,One of the problems we faced with working with
|
691 |
+
684,31.4775,31.526,spk_0,this is that the application itself is so complex
|
692 |
+
685,31.529166666666665,31.553816666666663,spk_0,"that over time,"
|
693 |
+
686,31.555,31.626483333333333,spk_0,the maintainability of the app just suffers and
|
694 |
+
687,31.62665,31.67248333333333,spk_0,"especially with a native approach or building things,"
|
695 |
+
688,31.67898333333333,31.760316666666668,spk_0,the based of boring solutions. Um And then eventually we can just keep it at
|
696 |
+
689,31.762666666666668,31.794,spk_0,that stage for a really long time.
|
697 |
+
690,31.813983333333333,31.824316666666668,spk_0,Um
|
698 |
+
691,31.8385,31.86733333333333,spk_0,We have plenty of examples for sure.
|
699 |
+
692,31.8735,31.940816666666667,spk_0,Um But I think one of the things we have to keep in mind is um
|
700 |
+
693,31.945833333333333,31.988166666666668,spk_0,"an improved or released,"
|
701 |
+
694,32.00266666666667,32.0275,spk_0,improve maintainability
|
702 |
+
695,32.04698333333333,32.102666666666664,spk_0,"uh than what we have today. And I think,"
|
703 |
+
696,32.10815,32.14666666666667,spk_0,does anybody disagree with that being a goal?
|
704 |
+
697,32.159,32.17015,spk_0,Let's put it that way.
|
705 |
+
698,32.20548333333333,32.212833333333336,spk_2,"You wanna,"
|
706 |
+
699,32.23531666666667,32.28366666666667,spk_2,you wanna spend the next 20 minutes defining maintainability?
|
707 |
+
700,32.32065,32.321,spk_0,I
|
708 |
+
701,32.32448333333333,32.38231666666667,spk_0,"thought you're gonna say uh do, do you wanna kick the person who says yet? No."
|
709 |
+
702,32.385666666666665,32.39833333333333,spk_0,Um
|
710 |
+
703,32.41316666666667,32.42281666666667,spk_0,"I mean,"
|
711 |
+
704,32.425333333333334,32.45033333333333,spk_0,"sure. What, what do we"
|
712 |
+
705,32.4525,32.47533333333333,spk_0,like? I think we have a
|
713 |
+
706,32.48016666666667,32.52048333333333,spk_0,maybe I have an idea of what maintainability is but
|
714 |
+
707,32.52065,32.572316666666666,spk_0,uh should we take a stab at like defining that roughly
|
715 |
+
708,32.63315,32.67015,spk_0,"or do we just keep it right at the moment? And we,"
|
716 |
+
709,32.70216666666666,32.70516666666666,spk_8,"I,"
|
717 |
+
710,32.707816666666666,32.75731666666667,spk_8,"I think you have to, it has to be defined at some point."
|
718 |
+
711,32.75748333333333,32.79266666666667,spk_8,"I don't know if this is the point to do it, but we have to,"
|
719 |
+
712,32.79281666666667,32.81648333333333,spk_8,we do have to have that conversation.
|
720 |
+
713,32.81933333333333,32.85981666666667,spk_8,"There has to be a metric where we're never gonna do it. It's just,"
|
721 |
+
714,32.86848333333333,32.89915,spk_8,"yeah, if we can't measure it, what can we do?"
|
722 |
+
715,32.910833333333336,32.971833333333336,spk_0,All right. So let's uh let's open an issue to do that as synchronously
|
723 |
+
716,32.98383333333334,32.99816666666667,spk_0,move to an issue
|
724 |
+
717,33.000166666666665,33.05798333333333,spk_0,to iterate on a joint definition
|
725 |
+
718,33.06666666666667,33.08833333333333,spk_0,of maintainability.
|
726 |
+
719,33.103,33.196666666666665,spk_0,"It was like we're moving in a W three C standard where we have like what this must mean,"
|
727 |
+
720,33.19683333333333,33.234,spk_0,what this should mean and that's good.
|
728 |
+
721,33.23416666666667,33.303,spk_0,"That's a positive thing, fellas and, and gals because I think that's the"
|
729 |
+
722,33.311166666666665,33.34466666666667,spk_0,how we get the standard to live on
|
730 |
+
723,33.34965,33.40266666666667,spk_0,"uh without misinterpretation along the way. So,"
|
731 |
+
724,33.4065,33.44065,spk_0,"yeah, thanks for bringing it up. Let's move that to an issue."
|
732 |
+
725,33.45131666666666,33.462666666666664,spk_0,Um
|
733 |
+
726,33.46483333333333,33.535666666666664,spk_0,I put here then the bottom create issue to define maintainability.
|
734 |
+
727,33.557,33.57516666666667,spk_0,Um Cool.
|
735 |
+
728,33.58931666666667,33.60365,spk_0,Uh
|
736 |
+
729,33.62533333333333,33.6335,spk_0,All right.
|
737 |
+
730,33.6585,33.71815,spk_0,"Any other goals that we should keep in mind? So let's recap, let's recap."
|
738 |
+
731,33.71831666666667,33.7655,spk_0,"So, create a document for the architecture, which is the main goal."
|
739 |
+
732,33.76815,33.81516666666667,spk_0,We need to cover all scenarios where diffs are used around git lab.
|
740 |
+
733,33.830983333333336,33.872816666666665,spk_0,"We need performance,"
|
741 |
+
734,33.87615,33.9105,spk_0,"we need to keep it perform. Oh, sorry."
|
742 |
+
735,33.91598333333334,33.94298333333333,spk_0,I should read the rest of the phrase
|
743 |
+
736,33.94416666666667,33.993833333333335,spk_0,performance not being degraded regardless of how big the
|
744 |
+
737,34.00131666666667,34.013333333333335,spk_0,depths
|
745 |
+
738,34.026983333333334,34.07431666666667,spk_0,"the diff is? See, it's gonna happen a lot of times"
|
746 |
+
739,34.07933333333333,34.08465,spk_0,it's not
|
747 |
+
740,34.08865,34.092666666666666,spk_0,"ear,"
|
748 |
+
741,34.098333333333336,34.11516666666667,spk_0,it's notar it's diff
|
749 |
+
742,34.13613333333333,34.18245,spk_0,uh accessible app for the users. Um
|
750 |
+
743,34.213,34.239333333333335,spk_0,"uh We'll need to define,"
|
751 |
+
744,34.24431666666667,34.2965,spk_0,define boundaries and user first promises uh which is
|
752 |
+
745,34.29881666666667,34.31648333333333,spk_0,"documents for budget,"
|
753 |
+
746,34.31666666666667,34.3625,spk_0,documents for data flow and potentially like targets for lending
|
754 |
+
747,34.36898333333333,34.41931666666667,spk_0,and uh an improvement in ability that why we have today.
|
755 |
+
748,34.43646666666667,34.45081666666667,spk_0,Uh
|
756 |
+
749,34.47715,34.4935,spk_0,Anything missing
|
757 |
+
750,34.52263333333333,34.535466666666665,spk_0,objectives.
|
758 |
+
751,34.583333333333336,34.63965,spk_1,How about metrics like uh performance metrics
|
759 |
+
752,34.652483333333336,34.65763333333334,spk_1,use H
|
760 |
+
753,34.659333333333336,34.670316666666665,spk_1,metrics?
|
761 |
+
754,34.72083333333333,34.770316666666666,spk_0,"Um How should we, so what's the target there?"
|
762 |
+
755,34.8045,34.814816666666665,spk_1,"Yeah, I mean,"
|
763 |
+
756,34.821,34.87448333333333,spk_1,"right now, I don't know. I mean, we have, we have very nice for performance"
|
764 |
+
757,34.87616666666667,34.89848333333333,spk_1,and mix because we have dark
|
765 |
+
758,34.906816666666664,34.9135,spk_1,for
|
766 |
+
759,34.93116666666667,34.95016666666667,spk_1,back end and fun and
|
767 |
+
760,34.9545,34.965316666666666,spk_1,fun times.
|
768 |
+
761,34.9755,34.98615,spk_1,That's one.
|
769 |
+
762,35.003483333333335,35.01531666666666,spk_1,"But for,"
|
770 |
+
763,35.02183333333333,35.03333333333333,spk_1,"yeah, go ahead and get it."
|
771 |
+
764,35.038666666666664,35.04848333333333,spk_1,Go ahead.
|
772 |
+
765,35.05083333333334,35.07566666666666,spk_1,"But for usage usage metrics,"
|
773 |
+
766,35.07748333333333,35.08165,spk_1,image for
|
774 |
+
767,35.085,35.08631666666667,spk_1,"you,"
|
775 |
+
768,35.11266666666667,35.172333333333334,spk_0,"I think, I think I'm gonna channel my Stanislav"
|
776 |
+
769,35.17633333333333,35.193983333333335,spk_0,because he's sick.
|
777 |
+
770,35.19683333333333,35.214983333333336,spk_0,So I'm gonna pull him in
|
778 |
+
771,35.22015,35.251,spk_0,and I'm gonna be speaking as if I was him
|
779 |
+
772,35.26266666666667,35.274316666666664,spk_0,um
|
780 |
+
773,35.28581666666667,35.35231666666667,spk_0,because we've talked about this in the past and I think Thomas as well is um to not
|
781 |
+
774,35.36416666666667,35.4085,spk_0,do not pursue vanity metrics. What does this mean?
|
782 |
+
775,35.424483333333335,35.5095,spk_0,"If we, if we think about the usual metrics we have, which is time the first bite."
|
783 |
+
776,35.514,35.52815,spk_0,Um
|
784 |
+
777,35.533833333333334,35.57415,spk_0,I don't know. Uh LCP and
|
785 |
+
778,35.5805,35.63315,spk_0,uh T BT s and all that stuff. A lot of those metrics can have.
|
786 |
+
779,35.64565,35.674483333333335,spk_0,"It was you, Thomas. Yes,"
|
787 |
+
780,35.67881666666667,35.70215,spk_0,that's blurry. So
|
788 |
+
781,35.713166666666666,35.7935,spk_0,"area. No, like a youtuber look at that, like look at, look at my, look at my thing."
|
789 |
+
782,35.79848333333333,35.86481666666667,spk_0,"Uh So yeah, the point of that is we should pursue meaningful metrics."
|
790 |
+
783,35.864983333333335,35.8795,spk_0,"I think that's,"
|
791 |
+
784,35.8805,35.948483333333336,spk_0,"that's how we can word it and what's meaningful is meaningful for our project,"
|
792 |
+
785,35.95248333333333,35.976166666666664,spk_0,which means we're probably gonna need to
|
793 |
+
786,35.97898333333333,36.004333333333335,spk_0,define those metrics
|
794 |
+
787,36.009166666666665,36.04481666666667,spk_0,and one of them falls into what Thomas was talking about.
|
795 |
+
788,36.04498333333333,36.11383333333333,spk_0,"The budget documents, right? Is things specifically built for us"
|
796 |
+
789,36.11816666666667,36.186816666666665,spk_0,because I can give you an example. We we had major improvement on TV T
|
797 |
+
790,36.197,36.21115,spk_0,"recently,"
|
798 |
+
791,36.22815,36.27583333333333,spk_0,"but that came at a cost of some viability, right?"
|
799 |
+
792,36.28,36.34131666666666,spk_0,"And it wasn't, it was conscious, we knew what we were doing. But"
|
800 |
+
793,36.3505,36.3765,spk_0,what I think we need to
|
801 |
+
794,36.38483333333333,36.42381666666667,spk_0,think a little bit deeper about is
|
802 |
+
795,36.43715,36.51,spk_0,why do we want to move those metrics and what's the impact of that to the user? So
|
803 |
+
796,36.51198333333333,36.564166666666665,spk_0,which goes a little bit to my next point of order priorities.
|
804 |
+
797,36.56433333333333,36.59065,spk_0,We're gonna grab all these goals and we're going to
|
805 |
+
798,36.59081666666667,36.64683333333333,spk_0,put them in order and like what's the most important thing
|
806 |
+
799,36.649483333333336,36.70966666666666,spk_0,"first and then having, if we have to make a choice between some of those."
|
807 |
+
800,36.709833333333336,36.72481666666667,spk_0,"So for example,"
|
808 |
+
801,36.73315,36.77415,spk_0,if we need to sacrifice um
|
809 |
+
802,36.7895,36.80781666666667,spk_0,accessibility
|
810 |
+
803,36.81065,36.835816666666666,spk_0,for performance
|
811 |
+
804,36.84381666666667,36.85833333333333,spk_0,should be
|
812 |
+
805,36.871,36.89031666666666,spk_0,right? Um
|
813 |
+
806,36.89565,36.906,spk_0,I think
|
814 |
+
807,36.9175,37.01181666666667,spk_0,having an order um of uh priorities definitely helps later on in the project.
|
815 |
+
808,37.01198333333333,37.079166666666666,spk_0,"Um W three C does this with uh V html five spec where it's,"
|
816 |
+
809,37.07933333333333,37.13433333333333,spk_0,"it specifies exactly who comes first, like users comes first,"
|
817 |
+
810,37.139,37.2045,spk_0,then comes authors then comes browser implementer implementer and then comes
|
818 |
+
811,37.20916666666667,37.24633333333333,spk_0,specter or whatever or theoretical purity.
|
819 |
+
812,37.24815,37.30166666666667,spk_0,So there has some priority order there.
|
820 |
+
813,37.30781666666667,37.35648333333334,spk_0,"Um So for us and a little bit more reasonable,"
|
821 |
+
814,37.35665,37.38248333333333,spk_0,I don't want to sacrifice accessibility.
|
822 |
+
815,37.38265,37.40983333333333,spk_0,But if you think about more of
|
823 |
+
816,37.41565,37.47015,spk_0,"perceived performance or meaningful metrics, like we're talking about here,"
|
824 |
+
817,37.47715,37.507983333333335,spk_0,um meaningful metrics
|
825 |
+
818,37.5135,37.55265,spk_0,"versus maintainability, I think we're,"
|
826 |
+
819,37.56333333333333,37.619483333333335,spk_0,we should probably sacrifice maintainability a little bit if that comes with
|
827 |
+
820,37.61965,37.677483333333335,spk_0,some benefit to the perceived performance or to the meaningful metrics.
|
828 |
+
821,37.68598333333333,37.72731666666667,spk_0,"So if anything metrics to this point,"
|
829 |
+
822,37.74216666666667,37.77166666666667,spk_0,I would just add meaningful metrics
|
830 |
+
823,37.785,37.828316666666666,spk_0,"and in parentheses, Thomas will put not vanity."
|
831 |
+
824,37.873983333333335,37.88916666666667,spk_0,"-- Does that make sense?
|
832 |
+
-- Bar Patrick."
|
833 |
+
825,37.905166666666666,37.943333333333335,spk_1,"Yeah, makes sense. Makes a lot of sense. I agree."
|
834 |
+
826,37.945483333333335,37.951,spk_1,OK.
|
835 |
+
827,37.96,37.990316666666665,spk_2,I think uh as part of our
|
836 |
+
828,37.99316666666667,38.01266666666667,spk_2,"documentation process,"
|
837 |
+
829,38.01283333333333,38.068333333333335,spk_2,"we should define something like the W three C like who comes first or,"
|
838 |
+
830,38.0685,38.1015,spk_2,"or what comes first, obviously"
|
839 |
+
831,38.10483333333333,38.141666666666666,spk_2,"users, right? And then like, what does that mean?"
|
840 |
+
832,38.14183333333333,38.212316666666666,spk_2,"So like formats accessibility, what, what's the order of how we sacrifice things?"
|
841 |
+
833,38.22331666666667,38.23165,spk_2,Um
|
842 |
+
834,38.25331666666667,38.30866666666667,spk_2,"I'll, I'll say it since it's, it's not popular in the front end."
|
843 |
+
835,38.30883333333333,38.3885,spk_2,"Industry developers should be last. Our, our experience should be last."
|
844 |
+
836,38.388666666666666,38.44266666666667,spk_2,"The DX should not be important. Um So,"
|
845 |
+
837,38.47065,38.52065,spk_0,so I'm gonna grab this recording when later you're complaining about
|
846 |
+
838,38.520833333333336,38.54881666666667,spk_0,"a bug that is really hard to fix and like,"
|
847 |
+
839,38.54898333333333,38.56115,spk_0,"hey, listen,"
|
848 |
+
840,38.575833333333335,38.59783333333333,spk_0,"look at this old friend,"
|
849 |
+
841,38.61165,38.63016666666667,spk_0,I agree with you. I agree with that.
|
850 |
+
842,38.63033333333333,38.66181666666667,spk_0,"I think, I think it's just, yeah, we,"
|
851 |
+
843,38.66198333333333,38.7125,spk_0,"we've lived through many hard problems to solve, to know"
|
852 |
+
844,38.72331666666667,38.75281666666667,spk_0,"they come at a cost per Yeah,"
|
853 |
+
845,38.78665,38.795316666666665,spk_0,cool.
|
854 |
+
846,38.801,38.84065,spk_0,So I wrote Meaningful Metrics. Thanks Patrick.
|
855 |
+
847,38.84081666666667,38.893,spk_0,"Uh Again, we're probably gonna need to need to be defined,"
|
856 |
+
848,38.94448333333333,38.96816666666667,spk_0,"great issue, I guess."
|
857 |
+
849,38.98248333333333,39.0135,spk_0,Um create
|
858 |
+
850,39.01948333333333,39.05466666666667,spk_0,issues or meaningful
|
859 |
+
851,39.064816666666665,39.13565,spk_0,"metrics. Uh And we can use some things that we've used in the past, which is um"
|
860 |
+
852,39.14216666666667,39.16316666666667,spk_0,custom defined
|
861 |
+
853,39.16833333333334,39.18116666666667,spk_0,what we call it.
|
862 |
+
854,39.21965,39.23265,spk_0,Um
|
863 |
+
855,39.2375,39.24666666666667,spk_0,The clery
|
864 |
+
856,39.251,39.29065,spk_0,P I that we have on the browser that we can ma uh
|
865 |
+
857,39.30665,39.364983333333335,spk_0,a user markings. Uh You can have markings on the front end that like
|
866 |
+
858,39.368,39.406,spk_0,"define stages of the render of the application,"
|
867 |
+
859,39.41065,39.47315,spk_0,which include the performance of the back end and the front end all at once.
|
868 |
+
860,39.47331666666667,39.53131666666667,spk_0,"And we can define those things and implement it at the front end in terms of that,"
|
869 |
+
861,39.53265,39.58231666666666,spk_0,"which doesn't exclude having all the metrics for the backend exclusive,"
|
870 |
+
862,39.582483333333336,39.60983333333333,spk_0,all the metrics for Galley and all that stuff.
|
871 |
+
863,39.61,39.64366666666667,spk_0,So that's why this is gonna be a joint effort because
|
872 |
+
864,39.64481666666666,39.67933333333333,spk_0,this might mean different things for each one of us.
|
873 |
+
865,39.6795,39.689,spk_0,So
|
874 |
+
866,39.70483333333333,39.7225,spk_1,we'll keep your eye in the loop.
|
875 |
+
867,39.74583333333333,39.756816666666666,spk_0,All right.
|
876 |
+
868,39.77133333333333,39.81548333333333,spk_0,Anything else in terms of objectives?
|
877 |
+
869,39.86898333333333,39.88,spk_0,Um
|
878 |
+
870,39.891666666666666,39.90798333333333,spk_0,So we have seven minutes
|
879 |
+
871,39.92083333333333,39.93265,spk_0,um
|
880 |
+
872,39.95248333333333,39.98148333333334,spk_0,"before I go to order priorities,"
|
881 |
+
873,39.99366666666667,40.055,spk_0,"I'll ask, should we have also an issue to discuss the, I'll,"
|
882 |
+
874,40.057316666666665,40.11931666666667,spk_0,I'll list all the goals of the things that we have defined above.
|
883 |
+
875,40.126666666666665,40.16465,spk_0,Should we have an issue to discuss this as synchrony
|
884 |
+
876,40.16683333333334,40.18315,spk_0,with all with everyone?
|
885 |
+
877,40.18333333333333,40.23333333333333,spk_0,Because I don't think we're gonna be making a consensus here on the call.
|
886 |
+
878,40.2375,40.25,spk_0,Um
|
887 |
+
879,40.25298333333333,40.29266666666667,spk_0,We can take a step of an example of what that would look like.
|
888 |
+
880,40.29283333333333,40.3515,spk_0,"But then everybody could go in that issue and then participate uh in,"
|
889 |
+
881,40.35166666666667,40.382983333333335,spk_0,in defining that together.
|
890 |
+
882,40.38315,40.392,spk_0,Does that
|
891 |
+
883,40.3965,40.403983333333336,spk_0,sound good?
|
892 |
+
884,40.40416666666667,40.43333333333333,spk_0,We could have just an example of what it would look like
|
893 |
+
885,40.4335,40.48181666666667,spk_0,and then just discard that and we go at it and build our
|
894 |
+
886,40.48715,40.516666666666666,spk_0,"suggestions in the issue. Sounds good,"
|
895 |
+
887,40.556983333333335,40.56515,spk_0,right?
|
896 |
+
888,40.57683333333333,40.59048333333333,spk_0,Show
|
897 |
+
889,40.605,40.617333333333335,spk_0,it's gonna go.
|
898 |
+
890,40.65016666666666,40.72966666666667,spk_0,"So OK, so create the document is not a priority because that's just the task, right?"
|
899 |
+
891,40.74015,40.78033333333333,spk_0,"So coverage, coverage"
|
900 |
+
892,40.78631666666666,40.79716666666667,spk_0,all
|
901 |
+
893,40.799483333333335,40.82183333333333,spk_0,these scenarios
|
902 |
+
894,40.83181666666667,40.88565,spk_0,and you can discard it later. Um If that doesn't make sense
|
903 |
+
895,40.8885,40.91716666666667,spk_0,and then it's performance
|
904 |
+
896,41.03131666666667,41.048316666666665,spk_0,that's
|
905 |
+
897,41.0505,41.06565,spk_0,"accessible,"
|
906 |
+
898,41.092333333333336,41.10966666666667,spk_1,users
|
907 |
+
899,41.1225,41.14216666666667,spk_0,uh improved
|
908 |
+
900,41.16283333333333,41.21515,spk_0,can probably find better words for this later and maintain the ability.
|
909 |
+
901,41.24965,41.28731666666667,spk_0,"Uh What we talked about. Oh, we skipped one."
|
910 |
+
902,41.31316666666667,41.32683333333333,spk_0,Um
|
911 |
+
903,41.372166666666665,41.39148333333333,spk_0,How should we call your point?
|
912 |
+
904,41.391666666666666,41.439166666666665,spk_0,Thomas to find boundaries and user first promises early?
|
913 |
+
905,41.46565,41.542,spk_0,"Is that part of the relevant metrics, meaningful metrics? Can we keep it in there?"
|
914 |
+
906,41.55833333333333,41.59865,spk_2,"Yeah, it's part of it for sure."
|
915 |
+
907,41.61366666666667,41.6645,spk_2,"There are also, I think it's also just like define um"
|
916 |
+
908,41.680166666666665,41.70583333333333,spk_2,"it's like defining deliverables, right?"
|
917 |
+
909,41.706,41.78181666666666,spk_2,"Like like uh like something is not complete if we, if it's not accessible,"
|
918 |
+
910,41.78565,41.84048333333333,spk_2,um it's not complete if it's um
|
919 |
+
911,41.85715,41.86716666666667,spk_2,if it
|
920 |
+
912,41.89915,41.91148333333334,spk_2,takes
|
921 |
+
913,41.91333333333333,42.0055,spk_2,a full second to get the code for it across the network or whatever. Um So it's like
|
922 |
+
914,42.017833333333336,42.03,spk_2,um
|
923 |
+
915,42.0395,42.088,spk_2,what are acceptable deliverable sort of
|
924 |
+
916,42.115316666666665,42.14098333333333,spk_2,"boundary. Yeah, I'm not sure."
|
925 |
+
917,42.15616666666666,42.189166666666665,spk_0,"Yeah, I think that's if we, if we frame it,"
|
926 |
+
918,42.18933333333333,42.21881666666667,spk_0,"I think that's part of the meaningful metrics,"
|
927 |
+
919,42.21898333333333,42.26181666666667,spk_0,we define the meaningful metrics and in there will
|
928 |
+
920,42.26198333333333,42.3125,spk_0,be compliance with the budget in there would be
|
929 |
+
921,42.316833333333335,42.37916666666667,spk_0,"time to get the data from Gidley or time to get the data from the rail side or,"
|
930 |
+
922,42.379333333333335,42.39716666666666,spk_0,or anything like that.
|
931 |
+
923,42.409,42.45066666666666,spk_0,I think we can keep it for now covered with the meaningful metric.
|
932 |
+
924,42.450833333333335,42.492,spk_0,So we have so covers of all these scenarios
|
933 |
+
925,42.49733333333333,42.524816666666666,spk_0,"uh which, which goes"
|
934 |
+
926,42.52966666666666,42.57933333333333,spk_0,"we, we can put it at odds with some particular scenarios that don't make sense,"
|
935 |
+
927,42.589,42.6475,spk_0,"performance regardless of this size, which is part of meaningful metrics."
|
936 |
+
928,42.647666666666666,42.66733333333333,spk_0,Should we erase that?
|
937 |
+
929,42.78766666666667,42.7975,spk_0,"Yeah, I"
|
938 |
+
930,42.802,42.81783333333333,spk_2,think so.
|
939 |
+
931,42.82715,42.83148333333333,spk_2,So we
|
940 |
+
932,42.833333333333336,42.8675,spk_2,have our performance budget should work no matter what
|
941 |
+
933,42.87715,42.93066666666667,spk_0,"coverage of these scenarios accessible improvement in ability,"
|
942 |
+
934,42.93083333333333,42.94981666666666,spk_0,"meaningful metrics,"
|
943 |
+
935,42.96366666666667,43.00866666666667,spk_0,"which is per performance, I guess as a whole."
|
944 |
+
936,43.0225,43.03715,spk_0,Um
|
945 |
+
937,43.0635,43.1185,spk_0,"Oh, we missed one. Can we create a shared documents followed with some organization"
|
946 |
+
938,43.13516666666666,43.15133333333333,spk_0,to start keeping artic
|
947 |
+
939,43.155166666666666,43.15983333333333,spk_0,one? But
|
948 |
+
940,43.17133333333334,43.18248333333333,spk_2,"this wasn't,"
|
949 |
+
941,43.18516666666667,43.2435,spk_2,"I didn't, I didn't vocalize it because we, we this is very,"
|
950 |
+
942,43.256483333333335,43.27865,spk_2,but like uh
|
951 |
+
943,43.28981666666667,43.32748333333333,spk_2,"we can't work exclusively in issues, right?"
|
952 |
+
944,43.32765,43.42881666666667,spk_2,"Because an issue is like something that eventually is closed um or resolved where,"
|
953 |
+
945,43.428983333333335,43.45398333333333,spk_2,where are we going to keep things?
|
954 |
+
946,43.454166666666666,43.508833333333335,spk_2,"Should we, should we create a wiki? Should we use our wiki feature?"
|
955 |
+
947,43.5125,43.55815,spk_2,"-- What like what, how are we gonna do this or just Google
|
956 |
+
-- Docs?"
|
957 |
+
948,43.58766666666666,43.638,spk_0,"Uh I don't, I've never been involved in architecture design workflow."
|
958 |
+
949,43.63816666666666,43.695483333333335,spk_0,"If anybody has, please, maybe Patrick or Carry you were"
|
959 |
+
950,43.70133333333333,43.71181666666666,spk_0,um
|
960 |
+
951,43.7225,43.74465,spk_0,"I was thinking about just using the,"
|
961 |
+
952,43.744816666666665,43.78366666666667,spk_0,we're gonna start to put things in
|
962 |
+
953,43.78383333333333,43.82266666666666,spk_0,the documentation itself of the architecture design.
|
963 |
+
954,43.82516666666667,43.8925,spk_0,"There's already a status for like proposed, accepted that sort of thing."
|
964 |
+
955,43.899816666666666,43.930166666666665,spk_0,So we should not re invent the wheel and just
|
965 |
+
956,43.93033333333333,43.98181666666667,spk_0,"use the documentation as a living spec as we go,"
|
966 |
+
957,43.98198333333333,43.99798333333333,spk_0,we take it through the
|
967 |
+
958,44.005,44.04031666666667,spk_0,the stages. I think that's what makes more sense.
|
968 |
+
959,44.04583333333333,44.06465,spk_0,Anybody disagrees.
|
969 |
+
960,44.08833333333333,44.1,spk_0,Does that make sense?
|
970 |
+
961,44.138333333333335,44.13883333333333,spk_7,OK.
|
971 |
+
962,44.153983333333336,44.20715,spk_7,Uh How about the things that would not go into documents?
|
972 |
+
963,44.20731666666666,44.26833333333333,spk_7,"Like if I'm doing the audit, it's not gonna end up all there."
|
973 |
+
964,44.28181666666666,44.30033333333333,spk_7,Um
|
974 |
+
965,44.30433333333333,44.330333333333336,spk_7,So should I just keep that
|
975 |
+
966,44.34333333333333,44.36033333333334,spk_7,"-- Google
|
976 |
+
-- doc?"
|
977 |
+
967,44.39448333333333,44.42881666666667,spk_0,"Um I mean, we definitely can find a"
|
978 |
+
968,44.43165,44.485816666666665,spk_0,Google Drive boulder to keep things organized.
|
979 |
+
969,44.48783333333333,44.51931666666667,spk_0,I think that's OK. Like a
|
980 |
+
970,44.5305,44.57666666666667,spk_0,artifact of investigations. Sure.
|
981 |
+
971,44.584,44.61783333333333,spk_0,Uh Maybe that can cover what Thomas was saying.
|
982 |
+
972,44.618,44.63131666666666,spk_0,"But in terms of like,"
|
983 |
+
973,44.631483333333335,44.66048333333333,spk_0,we should keep in mind that the effort should
|
984 |
+
974,44.66065,44.69415,spk_0,be to update the documentation that we're putting out.
|
985 |
+
975,44.70483333333333,44.75033333333333,spk_0,"And if like for example, if it makes sense to"
|
986 |
+
976,44.75331666666666,44.78248333333333,spk_0,"reference the artist that you did,"
|
987 |
+
977,44.78783333333333,44.7975,spk_0,you can keep it in the
|
988 |
+
978,44.799483333333335,44.84481666666667,spk_0,doc but link it on the living spec living on the
|
989 |
+
979,44.84881666666666,44.88248333333333,spk_0,link it on the documentation that we're merging.
|
990 |
+
980,44.89431666666667,44.899483333333336,spk_0,Mhm
|
991 |
+
981,44.90231666666666,44.90983333333333,spk_0,OK.
|
992 |
+
982,44.91165,44.95798333333333,spk_0,"Still let's build a Google Drive just for,"
|
993 |
+
983,44.97398333333334,45.03366666666667,spk_2,"yeah, I think we should have a Google Drive maybe for like drafts or like, hey,"
|
994 |
+
984,45.03383333333333,45.064166666666665,spk_2,I'm doing this audit and here's a bunch of stuff.
|
995 |
+
985,45.06433333333333,45.122166666666665,spk_2,"But if we're gonna be linking like data or like report results,"
|
996 |
+
986,45.13315,45.16481666666667,spk_2,we should probably be using kit lab.
|
997 |
+
987,45.177816666666665,45.1895,spk_2,So like
|
998 |
+
988,45.19415,45.20883333333333,spk_2,uh
|
999 |
+
989,45.21683333333333,45.24815,spk_2,"that's why I suggested wiki like that,"
|
1000 |
+
990,45.24831666666667,45.28866666666666,spk_2,that can maybe we can store larger artifacts over
|
1001 |
+
991,45.288833333333336,45.32116666666667,spk_2,in wiki and then link it from the documentation.
|
1002 |
+
992,45.321333333333335,45.33165,spk_2,I'm not sure.
|
1003 |
+
993,45.33383333333333,45.342333333333336,spk_2,But
|
1004 |
+
994,45.34583333333333,45.39481666666666,spk_2,"-- um
|
1005 |
+
-- we can go, we can, we can check that as we go, I think"
|
1006 |
+
995,45.39881666666667,45.434666666666665,spk_2,that Google Drive necessarily means it's like
|
1007 |
+
996,45.44166666666667,45.47881666666667,spk_2,private and we're keeping it a secret.
|
1008 |
+
997,45.481316666666665,45.53148333333333,spk_2,Um And maybe we should default to something more public.
|
1009 |
+
998,45.54266666666667,45.589,spk_0,"Not necessarily, you can have Google Docs that are public"
|
1010 |
+
999,45.59498333333333,45.6125,spk_0,"-- can have a public
|
1011 |
+
-- version."
|
1012 |
+
1000,45.61783333333333,45.62533333333333,spk_1,Yeah.
|
1013 |
+
1001,45.631166666666665,45.63681666666667,spk_1,Yeah.
|
1014 |
+
1002,45.649483333333336,45.652,spk_8,Yeah.
|
1015 |
+
1003,45.6645,45.6675,spk_8,The
|
1016 |
+
1004,45.66931666666667,45.73433333333333,spk_8,"it's the pattern of, of use though. It really is like Google Docs is like,"
|
1017 |
+
1005,45.75265,45.78715,spk_8,"yeah, it's kind of hidden enough to decide."
|
1018 |
+
1006,45.81098333333333,45.8255,spk_1,"-- Shouldn't
|
1019 |
+
-- we use skip?"
|
1020 |
+
1007,45.8345,45.8505,spk_2,"We, we should use"
|
1021 |
+
1008,45.85416666666666,45.86181666666667,spk_2,"Gab, right?"
|
1022 |
+
1009,45.87533333333333,45.89216666666667,spk_1,"Hey, I have an idea."
|
1023 |
+
1010,45.89398333333333,45.90116666666667,spk_1,Let's use
|
1024 |
+
1011,45.90416666666667,45.90466666666666,spk_1,GI
|
1025 |
+
1012,45.9085,45.91048333333333,spk_1,lab.
|
1026 |
+
1013,45.9175,45.927816666666665,spk_1,OK.
|
1027 |
+
1014,45.94733333333333,46.00533333333333,spk_0,"All right. Let's talk about it on Slack. I mean, whatever people are agreeing."
|
1028 |
+
1015,46.0055,46.040816666666665,spk_0,II I would have a problem with. Um
|
1029 |
+
1016,46.06433333333333,46.11416666666667,spk_0,"All right. So let's not take any actions, let's discuss, let's discuss this thing."
|
1030 |
+
1017,46.17183333333333,46.207483333333336,spk_0,Almost you start the discussion on Slack
|
1031 |
+
1018,46.212833333333336,46.25116666666667,spk_0,"um or on the Gila issue. Sorry,"
|
1032 |
+
1019,46.25566666666667,46.27283333333333,spk_0,because we need to talk for.
|
1033 |
+
1020,46.27666666666666,46.28333333333333,spk_0,Um
|
1034 |
+
1021,46.29716666666667,46.34798333333333,spk_0,"OK. So looking at the immediate task at hand,"
|
1035 |
+
1022,46.35265,46.36283333333333,spk_0,uh
|
1036 |
+
1023,46.369483333333335,46.427483333333335,spk_0,"I'm sorry, looking at the other priorities which we need to move to an issue."
|
1037 |
+
1024,46.44166666666667,46.4555,spk_0,Um
|
1038 |
+
1025,46.50781666666666,46.5675,spk_0,"So what I think would, would do is like ordered."
|
1039 |
+
1026,46.57083333333333,46.614,spk_0,An example example would be
|
1040 |
+
1027,46.61931666666667,46.64481666666666,spk_0,"like meaningful metrics,"
|
1041 |
+
1028,46.692166666666665,46.701,spk_0,"comes,"
|
1042 |
+
1029,46.71181666666666,46.72166666666666,spk_0,comes
|
1043 |
+
1030,46.726333333333336,46.760333333333335,spk_0,"before then maintain,"
|
1044 |
+
1031,46.76565,46.81498333333333,spk_0,maintain ability. That would be the first choice.
|
1045 |
+
1032,46.82065,46.8475,spk_0,Uh accessibility
|
1046 |
+
1033,46.87116666666667,46.909666666666666,spk_0,should also come before maintainability.
|
1047 |
+
1034,46.91498333333333,46.926833333333335,spk_0,Um
|
1048 |
+
1035,46.97048333333333,47.022666666666666,spk_0,coverage for all these scenarios. That's a tricky one.
|
1049 |
+
1036,47.024483333333336,47.03766666666667,spk_0,But I
|
1050 |
+
1037,47.04098333333334,47.088166666666666,spk_0,I'm just giving an example like you don't have to agree with that. Um
|
1051 |
+
1038,47.10265,47.1515,spk_0,I I would say uh so we can
|
1052 |
+
1039,47.15631666666667,47.16833333333334,spk_0,keep it
|
1053 |
+
1040,47.17381666666667,47.18631666666667,spk_1,coverage
|
1054 |
+
1041,47.20381666666667,47.23766666666667,spk_0,because it needs to be accessible.
|
1055 |
+
1042,47.23783333333333,47.284666666666666,spk_0,"But he thought some things might not cover all scenarios,"
|
1056 |
+
1043,47.28816666666667,47.309666666666665,spk_0,maintainability. What's missing?
|
1057 |
+
1044,47.313,47.327,spk_0,"234,"
|
1058 |
+
1045,47.34981666666667,47.41033333333333,spk_0,"that's it. 1234. Yeah, so that, that this would be an example of uh"
|
1059 |
+
1046,47.4265,47.43998333333333,spk_0,to start off with.
|
1060 |
+
1047,47.44015,47.471833333333336,spk_0,"We might have different things that we add in the as we go,"
|
1061 |
+
1048,47.472,47.50298333333333,spk_0,but at least we'll have a place to document it
|
1062 |
+
1049,47.50698333333333,47.53598333333333,spk_0,and this will be part of the documentation.
|
1063 |
+
1050,47.540816666666665,47.5845,spk_0,Just an example. Let's move the discussion to an issue. OK.
|
1064 |
+
1051,47.69031666666667,47.69048333333333,spk_0,Uh
|
1065 |
+
1052,47.698483333333336,47.73866666666667,spk_0,And that takes me over time.
|
1066 |
+
1053,47.74048333333333,47.80583333333333,spk_0,Uh So I need people to claim these immediate tasks at hand.
|
1067 |
+
1054,47.814,47.82765,spk_0,Um
|
1068 |
+
1055,47.83715,47.895833333333336,spk_0,We need some people to start opening the MRS for the documentation
|
1069 |
+
1056,47.89915,47.96683333333333,spk_0,just to get it started as a draft or whatever the status is. Um
|
1070 |
+
1057,47.9755,48.0345,spk_0,And I need someone to claim that task. I need someone um
|
1071 |
+
1058,48.046,48.115316666666665,spk_0,"to create the issue to gather all the existing issues and that's the point is OK,"
|
1072 |
+
1059,48.11548333333333,48.125,spk_0,"the issue,"
|
1073 |
+
1060,48.13033333333333,48.16433333333333,spk_0,but then you broadcast it to everybody to
|
1074 |
+
1061,48.177483333333335,48.22715,spk_0,uh add comments to that issue or something or add to the description
|
1075 |
+
1062,48.255833333333335,48.28548333333333,spk_0,"um and, and ask"
|
1076 |
+
1063,48.301833333333335,48.31215,spk_0,"what happened,"
|
1077 |
+
1064,48.323483333333336,48.339,spk_0,something changed.
|
1078 |
+
1065,48.34481666666667,48.35731666666667,spk_0,"Oh yeah, I did a comment."
|
1079 |
+
1066,48.36266666666667,48.37381666666667,spk_0,Um
|
1080 |
+
1067,48.392833333333336,48.43248333333333,spk_0,"the document current approach for multiple gifts,"
|
1081 |
+
1068,48.43265,48.45381666666667,spk_0,I'm probably gonna need multiple
|
1082 |
+
1069,48.47865,48.4875,spk_0,my
|
1083 |
+
1070,48.49065,48.50748333333333,spk_0,Google doc crashed.
|
1084 |
+
1071,48.52966666666666,48.602,spk_0,Uh So the documents current approach for multiple dis implementations is that like
|
1085 |
+
1072,48.60215,48.664,spk_0,we don't have a lot of visibility on how things happen between Gidley.
|
1086 |
+
1073,48.66416666666667,48.70681666666667,spk_0,"Like we on the front end between Gidley and rails,"
|
1087 |
+
1074,48.713166666666666,48.738166666666665,spk_0,we don't have a lot of visibility on how things
|
1088 |
+
1075,48.73833333333333,48.77848333333333,spk_0,on source code happen uh on back end and stuff.
|
1089 |
+
1076,48.77865,48.84081666666667,spk_0,So it would be nice to get some sort of like Quick Sons shott
|
1090 |
+
1077,48.8465,48.90315,spk_0,of how the dips are being generated and handled today.
|
1091 |
+
1078,48.91033333333333,48.963166666666666,spk_0,Um I would keep it light ish
|
1092 |
+
1079,48.96515,49.02583333333333,spk_0,because this is just to understand where we are. It's not the outcome.
|
1093 |
+
1080,49.026,49.085816666666666,spk_0,"It's just a, a good effort of capturing what we have today."
|
1094 |
+
1081,49.092333333333336,49.10681666666667,spk_0,"And for this,"
|
1095 |
+
1082,49.10698333333333,49.18248333333333,spk_0,what I would leverage is potentially grab all the dris and assign an issue to them.
|
1096 |
+
1083,49.2,49.22031666666667,spk_0,Why is my Google doc
|
1097 |
+
1084,49.24166666666667,49.263333333333335,spk_0,do look just crashed.
|
1098 |
+
1085,49.27015,49.27966666666666,spk_0,Um
|
1099 |
+
1086,49.29431666666667,49.313833333333335,spk_0,Which is why we should just get love.
|
1100 |
+
1087,49.32781666666666,49.360166666666665,spk_0,So I'll take action on that. I'll create an issue
|
1101 |
+
1088,49.37365,49.42015,spk_0,and I'll sign every Dr I uh there and
|
1102 |
+
1089,49.420316666666665,49.45966666666666,spk_0,potentially I'll ping you to Patrick because of giddily.
|
1103 |
+
1090,49.4675,49.56465,spk_0,"Um And the idea is just to share some notes or some diagrams of how,"
|
1104 |
+
1091,49.57031666666666,49.62331666666667,spk_0,how we're doing the DS today in your part of the organization.
|
1105 |
+
1092,49.631166666666665,49.6935,spk_0,"Uh If that makes sense, is that sensible for everybody or am I missing something."
|
1106 |
+
1093,49.77715,49.822,spk_0,OK. Sometimes I'm afraid that I'm making
|
1107 |
+
1094,49.826166666666666,49.85681666666667,spk_0,no sense at all. It just too
|
1108 |
+
1095,49.86165,49.888666666666666,spk_0,respectful to call me out.
|
1109 |
+
1096,49.90433333333333,49.95183333333333,spk_0,Uh Let's assume it's not that uh right. I'll take that one
|
1110 |
+
1097,49.95365,49.97133333333333,spk_0,document.
|
1111 |
+
1098,49.97431666666667,50.0,spk_0,I think that is for me.
|
1112 |
+
1099,50.00248333333333,50.06816666666667,spk_0,And then we need one. We already have one for uh the define maintainability.
|
1113 |
+
1100,50.07315,50.13615,spk_0,Um This is then we need one to create issue for meaningful metrics
|
1114 |
+
1101,50.14098333333333,50.18698333333333,spk_0,and then one to an issue to discuss order of priorities.
|
1115 |
+
1102,50.191316666666665,50.21683333333333,spk_0,Um I can take that one too
|
1116 |
+
1103,50.22448333333333,50.2675,spk_0,"so please take them on, um"
|
1117 |
+
1104,50.2755,50.32731666666667,spk_0,assign yourself here like we're doing like me and Thomas.
|
1118 |
+
1105,50.33916666666666,50.36915,spk_0,Uh And then we know exactly who's going to take
|
1119 |
+
1106,50.36931666666667,50.41833333333334,spk_0,them and then broadcast them on the Slack channel.
|
1120 |
+
1107,50.4185,50.4645,spk_0,I think that's the best way at the moment to
|
1121 |
+
1108,50.46465,50.50765,spk_0,get everybody that it's involved or wants to be involved
|
1122 |
+
1109,50.51148333333333,50.5225,spk_0,aware.
|
1123 |
+
1110,50.53383333333333,50.546,spk_0,Um
|
1124 |
+
1111,50.5555,50.59548333333333,spk_0,"That's it. Anybody has any other questions before we go,"
|
1125 |
+
1112,50.6385,50.68033333333333,spk_0,we'll talk about the thing called scheduling
|
1126 |
+
1113,50.6805,50.72298333333333,spk_0,"on Slack or something because like it's,"
|
1127 |
+
1114,50.73165,50.74881666666667,spk_0,we don't have any time now.
|
1128 |
+
1115,50.756816666666666,50.803983333333335,spk_2,"Do we have uh what, what's the, is there a specific Slack show"
|
1129 |
+
1116,50.80631666666667,50.832816666666666,spk_2,for this? Am I in it? I don't know.
|
1130 |
+
1117,50.84216666666666,50.85083333333333,spk_2,Uh
|
1131 |
+
1118,50.857816666666665,50.89465,spk_0,"F New Ds, right. Phil."
|
1132 |
+
1119,50.93383333333333,50.9375,spk_1,Yep.
|
1133 |
+
1120,50.967333333333336,51.011316666666666,spk_0,"-- Please join. If you're not there.
|
1134 |
+
-- Look at that, I'm not a member."
|
1135 |
+
1121,51.01148333333333,51.02865,spk_2,"-- Go
|
1136 |
+
-- ahead and join that."
|
1137 |
+
1122,51.03548333333333,51.056,spk_0,"You are now. All right,"
|
1138 |
+
1123,51.075,51.09166666666667,spk_0,thanks everybody.
|
1139 |
+
1124,51.09183333333333,51.16148333333334,spk_0,"There's gonna be a lot of discovery and a lot of crazy chaos through here, but I think"
|
1140 |
+
1125,51.1635,51.20066666666666,spk_0,it's great that we're having this conversation that we see so
|
1141 |
+
1126,51.200833333333335,51.264,spk_0,many different scopes represented so really appreciative all of your time.
|
1142 |
+
1127,51.27398333333333,51.33565,spk_0,And if you by any chance uh need um
|
1143 |
+
1128,51.335816666666666,51.38016666666667,spk_0,"some help prioritizing work to this with your managers,"
|
1144 |
+
1129,51.38033333333333,51.43131666666667,spk_0,feel free to reach out to me and I can try to put in a good word.
|
1145 |
+
1130,51.459,51.46615,spk_0,OK.
|
1146 |
+
1131,51.47298333333333,51.48198333333333,spk_0,That's it.
|
1147 |
+
1132,51.48383333333334,51.55331666666667,spk_0,We'll uh discuss the synchronously and we see you on the ether or something.
|
1148 |
+
1133,51.58648333333333,51.60748333333333,spk_0,Bye. Have a good week.
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1 |
+
,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
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2 |
+
0,21.040166666666668,21.051483333333334,spk_0,we can try it.
|
3 |
+
1,21.0565,21.067816666666666,spk_0,So
|
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2,21.07933333333333,21.125,spk_0,"that's again, at the moment, we don't think"
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+
3,21.127666666666663,21.14183333333333,spk_0,that would be applicable.
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6 |
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4,21.142,21.17383333333333,spk_0,"But if anybody has any other thoughts on that,"
|
7 |
+
5,21.17398333333333,21.227166666666665,spk_0,but we could defer the highlighting to the front end or we can pre
|
8 |
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6,21.23,21.25483333333333,spk_0,render it in some ways
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9 |
+
7,21.268833333333333,21.292816666666667,spk_0,all of that is
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+
8,21.296983333333333,21.39515,spk_0,uh valid and a part of this um gathering existing issues and potential proposals.
|
11 |
+
9,21.395316666666663,21.4625,spk_0,Uh I know that carry um you had previously proposed something like
|
12 |
+
10,21.478,21.552333333333333,spk_0,do more of prec calculation of the data that we need to render the DS.
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13 |
+
11,21.55615,21.591666666666665,spk_0,I think we wanna need to revisit that at some point.
|
14 |
+
12,21.59233333333333,21.6465,spk_0,Um So let's make sure that those issues are created
|
15 |
+
13,21.64666666666667,21.694333333333333,spk_0,and documented at least and highlighted here in this um
|
16 |
+
14,21.705816666666667,21.748,spk_0,"effort. Uh Well, well, I don't know, we'll have a,"
|
17 |
+
15,21.759,21.78065,spk_0,let's create an Epic
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18 |
+
16,21.803,21.817666666666668,spk_0,"and,"
|
19 |
+
17,21.8195,21.8235,spk_0,or
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20 |
+
18,21.8355,21.847316666666668,spk_0,"Epic,"
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21 |
+
19,21.8525,21.885316666666668,spk_0,we don't want to move them from the current Epics.
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22 |
+
20,21.89816666666667,21.899316666666667,spk_0,It's
|
23 |
+
21,21.90198333333333,21.948833333333333,spk_0,an issue and document them all there.
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24 |
+
22,21.95565,22.0085,spk_0,"OK? I'll, I'll assign that desk in just a bit to somebody."
|
25 |
+
23,22.029166666666665,22.061,spk_0,Does that make sense? Scary of like bringing that
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+
24,22.06415,22.080166666666667,spk_0,thing back?
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+
25,22.08948333333333,22.098,spk_0,OK.
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28 |
+
26,22.106666666666666,22.11916666666667,spk_0,Um
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27,22.13833333333333,22.19183333333333,spk_0,"Highlighting on the front end. OK. Does that satisfy your question, Igor"
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30 |
+
28,22.218316666666663,22.2875,spk_5,"Yeah. Yeah. And if I have a half a minute, I can explain why I actually asked"
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31 |
+
29,22.294,22.29433333333333,spk_5,you.
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32 |
+
30,22.296166666666668,22.319816666666668,spk_5,"Uh uh Because yeah,"
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33 |
+
31,22.32248333333333,22.353316666666668,spk_5,when I think about performance of the
|
34 |
+
32,22.355,22.35565,spk_5,"DS,"
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35 |
+
33,22.3635,22.41815,spk_5,"I remember that we do something like, for example, we have ad"
|
36 |
+
34,22.41998333333333,22.49065,spk_5,for file and currently we fetch the old version of the D
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37 |
+
35,22.49683333333333,22.564666666666668,spk_5,uh old version of the whole block and the new version of the whole block
|
38 |
+
36,22.571666666666665,22.61133333333333,spk_5,uh just to highlight the D
|
39 |
+
37,22.614833333333333,22.628816666666665,spk_5,correctly.
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40 |
+
38,22.631666666666668,22.709333333333333,spk_5,"Uh why uh uh do, why do we do historically"
|
41 |
+
39,22.71283333333333,22.78783333333333,spk_5,uh just because we want the D to be correct because sometimes uh
|
42 |
+
40,22.791316666666667,22.82133333333333,spk_5,it's uh context
|
43 |
+
41,22.823166666666665,22.830816666666667,spk_5,related.
|
44 |
+
42,22.83098333333333,22.90883333333333,spk_5,"Yeah, for example, you have a stream opened like 10 lines somewhere higher."
|
45 |
+
43,22.91133333333333,22.934,spk_5,"Uh Yeah, behind the D"
|
46 |
+
44,22.941666666666663,23.00198333333333,spk_5,and uh we still want to highlight it correctly.
|
47 |
+
45,23.004666666666665,23.01398333333333,spk_5,"So,"
|
48 |
+
46,23.017166666666668,23.024483333333333,spk_5,"yeah,"
|
49 |
+
47,23.027166666666663,23.102666666666668,spk_5,"uh I believe if we start discussing performance improvements of the depths,"
|
50 |
+
48,23.102833333333333,23.16865,spk_5,these are the questions that we probably will be uh
|
51 |
+
49,23.16883333333333,23.23333333333333,spk_5,often try to solve and find like the new tradeoffs.
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52 |
+
50,23.234816666666667,23.2855,spk_5,"So yeah, it's something that we can"
|
53 |
+
51,23.289316666666668,23.37333333333333,spk_5,"uh discuss later. But yeah, a lot of tradeoffs will be involved."
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54 |
+
52,23.379166666666663,23.392666666666667,spk_5,"So yeah,"
|
55 |
+
53,23.396833333333333,23.416666666666668,spk_5,one of the examples
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56 |
+
54,23.45381666666667,23.481666666666666,spk_2,I was doing um a
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57 |
+
55,23.494333333333334,23.50815,spk_2,like for
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58 |
+
56,23.511,23.52415,spk_2,highlighting
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59 |
+
57,23.53,23.5405,spk_2,in the
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60 |
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58,23.546666666666667,23.586816666666667,spk_2,"little, it's like micro app that I wrote."
|
61 |
+
59,23.590333333333334,23.6335,spk_2,Um that was the exact problem that I ran into.
|
62 |
+
60,23.633666666666667,23.67333333333333,spk_2,I never actually saw incorrect highlighting
|
63 |
+
61,23.677666666666667,23.7695,spk_2,"but the flaw was there where if we didn't have the whole lab, um it,"
|
64 |
+
62,23.769666666666662,23.80633333333333,spk_2,"it could have highlighted incorrectly because of what you said, you know,"
|
65 |
+
63,23.8065,23.858833333333333,spk_2,"30 lines up, something happened that needed that changed the highlighting."
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+
64,23.86615,23.8755,spk_2,Um
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67 |
+
65,23.9,23.937316666666668,spk_2,If we have to fetch the whole blob anyway.
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68 |
+
66,23.94565,23.994983333333334,spk_2,"Um in, in my opinion, uh"
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69 |
+
67,24.017666666666667,24.02198333333333,spk_2,front
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+
68,24.023983333333334,24.03865,spk_2,end highlighting
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71 |
+
69,24.044166666666666,24.075333333333333,spk_2,allows us more flexibility
|
72 |
+
70,24.08031666666667,24.176,spk_2,um because we can wait until the user scrolls to near the file to highlight it.
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73 |
+
71,24.18265,24.191316666666665,spk_2,But
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74 |
+
72,24.194666666666667,24.226983333333333,spk_2,"there's a lot of, there's a lot, like you said,"
|
75 |
+
73,24.227166666666665,24.256833333333333,spk_2,there's a lot of tradeoffs because now you've got
|
76 |
+
74,24.257,24.288166666666665,spk_2,to deliver the whole blog to the front end.
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77 |
+
75,24.28833333333333,24.294,spk_2,"So,"
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78 |
+
76,24.3445,24.40348333333333,spk_0,"so what the way I envision this and if you have better ideas, this is like,"
|
79 |
+
77,24.40365,24.438816666666668,spk_0,please propose is that as the
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80 |
+
78,24.4445,24.46815,spk_0,"discussions evolve,"
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81 |
+
79,24.476983333333333,24.498666666666665,spk_0,we're probably gonna have
|
82 |
+
80,24.5045,24.592166666666667,spk_0,big topics in specific calls to be discussed and also be discussed as synchronously
|
83 |
+
81,24.605166666666666,24.666833333333333,spk_0,"as we go, we'll highlight, we'll pick these topics and we'll broadcast them all."
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84 |
+
82,24.667,24.69633333333333,spk_0,"Like, let's have a discussion on the syntax highway."
|
85 |
+
83,24.69915,24.71565,spk_0,Let's have a discussion on
|
86 |
+
84,24.71815,24.72215,spk_0,caching.
|
87 |
+
85,24.722316666666668,24.75548333333333,spk_0,Let's have a discussion on those things because we're gonna
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88 |
+
86,24.75565,24.79433333333333,spk_0,need some help in figuring out some of the possibilities
|
89 |
+
87,24.79948333333333,24.849316666666667,spk_0,because there's a bunch of possibilities on how do we wanna address this.
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90 |
+
88,24.8625,24.885316666666668,spk_0,But we need to come with a
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91 |
+
89,24.892,24.947316666666666,spk_0,choice or some choices for the architectural design.
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92 |
+
90,24.94748333333333,24.990166666666667,spk_0,"So uh this will be one of them since that's how,"
|
93 |
+
91,24.9905,25.02665,spk_0,since that's how I is gonna have to be part of it.
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94 |
+
92,25.051316666666665,25.10165,spk_0,Ok. Thanks Igor. Thanks Thomas. Thanks Jack. Uh
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95 |
+
93,25.1105,25.133333333333333,spk_0,and Carry. Um
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96 |
+
94,25.156333333333333,25.167,spk_0,Moving on.
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97 |
+
95,25.167166666666667,25.236,spk_0,One of the things that we have already talked and I talked to Paulina about this is
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98 |
+
96,25.24948333333333,25.32881666666667,spk_0,we know that accessibility isn't the best today on the merging
|
99 |
+
97,25.330816666666667,25.35115,spk_0,best diffs or
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100 |
+
98,25.353483333333333,25.39515,spk_0,Ds overall because we haven't paid too much attention to that.
|
101 |
+
99,25.40115,25.44633333333333,spk_0,Since we're rethinking a lot of this as a
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102 |
+
100,25.4545,25.50365,spk_0,"quality usability improvement,"
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103 |
+
101,25.503816666666665,25.58566666666667,spk_0,it will be um really good if you start incorporating accessibility from the start.
|
104 |
+
102,25.591833333333334,25.612316666666665,spk_0,"So, um"
|
105 |
+
103,25.62398333333333,25.648333333333333,spk_0,how should we wear this Paulina?
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106 |
+
104,25.65115,25.66015,spk_0,Um
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107 |
+
105,25.68265,25.70233333333333,spk_0,"Is it accessible,"
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108 |
+
106,25.72665,25.733833333333333,spk_1,accessible?
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109 |
+
107,25.7775,25.786816666666667,spk_1,Um
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110 |
+
108,25.83783333333333,25.84565,spk_7,"Yeah,"
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111 |
+
109,25.8565,25.90815,spk_7,yeah. So uh I started the document already. I'll be
|
112 |
+
110,25.91215,25.92615,spk_7,doing the audit of
|
113 |
+
111,25.929166666666667,25.953316666666662,spk_7,this now and
|
114 |
+
112,25.961483333333334,25.9925,spk_7,analyzing what's missing right now.
|
115 |
+
113,25.99965,26.047316666666667,spk_7,But also the second part will be like looking at
|
116 |
+
114,26.04748333333333,26.10115,spk_7,the guidelines that we should actually follow for the authoring tool
|
117 |
+
115,26.107983333333333,26.119666666666667,spk_7,and
|
118 |
+
116,26.128316666666667,26.16165,spk_7,rethinking about how we want to
|
119 |
+
117,26.167666666666666,26.28265,spk_7,show of representatives uh to screen reader users. Um for all the other
|
120 |
+
118,26.2875,26.311333333333334,spk_7,parties like small twigs
|
121 |
+
119,26.317,26.36865,spk_7,"or tab navigation and things. But for the screen reader,"
|
122 |
+
120,26.37465,26.437666666666665,spk_7,it's a bit tricky because what we show is very graphic right now
|
123 |
+
121,26.440816666666667,26.46448333333333,spk_7,and uh we need to
|
124 |
+
122,26.472316666666668,26.511333333333333,spk_7,be able to like for the screener to
|
125 |
+
123,26.519,26.534,spk_7,like read it
|
126 |
+
124,26.538166666666665,26.58115,spk_7,computed uh with the relations between
|
127 |
+
125,26.58515,26.63948333333333,spk_7,the number of lines and that code changed. Um
|
128 |
+
126,26.64498333333333,26.696,spk_7,And all the extra features that commenting. Um
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129 |
+
127,26.7025,26.70348333333333,spk_7,"So,"
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130 |
+
128,26.715816666666665,26.732166666666668,spk_0,so in terms of
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131 |
+
129,26.742166666666662,26.772816666666667,spk_0,like accessibility is such a wide
|
132 |
+
130,26.790333333333333,26.817666666666668,spk_0,concept and term
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133 |
+
131,26.827166666666667,26.884816666666666,spk_0,when we're talking about spec um specific um
|
134 |
+
132,26.887833333333333,26.937666666666665,spk_0,making it a bit more specific. Um
|
135 |
+
133,26.94515,27.07465,spk_0,"we can, we can like narrow it down to uh screen reader users, keyboard navigation."
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136 |
+
134,27.08915,27.101316666666666,spk_0,Um
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137 |
+
135,27.123666666666665,27.130983333333333,spk_0,um
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138 |
+
136,27.14883333333333,27.178,spk_0,And um I was
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139 |
+
137,27.180316666666663,27.1875,spk_7,at
|
140 |
+
138,27.190166666666663,27.215333333333334,spk_7,um how to phrase it.
|
141 |
+
139,27.21865,27.247816666666665,spk_7,"It's like the visually, it's"
|
142 |
+
140,27.25198333333333,27.26365,spk_7,um
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143 |
+
141,27.27415,27.327166666666667,spk_7,"it's as easy to read for, for everyone"
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+
142,27.3335,27.35765,spk_0,visually comfortable is that
|
145 |
+
143,27.3735,27.37415,spk_7,sort
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146 |
+
144,27.376316666666668,27.386,spk_7,of like
|
147 |
+
145,27.38983333333333,27.409,spk_7,contrast?
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148 |
+
146,27.42333333333333,27.461816666666667,spk_7,"Um Yeah, if you, you study"
|
149 |
+
147,27.46365,27.488983333333334,spk_7,"like magnifiers,"
|
150 |
+
148,27.501816666666667,27.60933333333333,spk_7,"-- uh So we, we don't lose context with
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151 |
+
-- so contrast uh color blindness."
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152 |
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149,27.612666666666662,27.652166666666663,spk_0,So fits law is about um
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153 |
+
150,27.66398333333333,27.727166666666665,spk_0,"in a nutshell is the larger the target, it is the easier it is to acquire."
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154 |
+
151,27.72733333333333,27.76083333333333,spk_0,So make it comfortable for people with
|
155 |
+
152,27.761,27.802666666666667,spk_0,you'd like some motion disabilities and stuff.
|
156 |
+
153,27.807166666666667,27.816316666666665,spk_0,Um
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157 |
+
154,27.8235,27.836816666666667,spk_0,"So again,"
|
158 |
+
155,27.836983333333333,27.88648333333333,spk_0,if anything this will be leveraged by the designers that
|
159 |
+
156,27.88665,27.9155,spk_0,we will be bringing in at a later stage.
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160 |
+
157,27.91565,27.96448333333333,spk_0,"Uh But as we're thinking about the front end architecture,"
|
161 |
+
158,27.964666666666663,27.98281666666667,spk_0,we should account for that.
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162 |
+
159,27.992816666666663,28.03698333333333,spk_7,"Yes, it's design is, but also for screen,"
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163 |
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160,28.0405,28.085833333333333,spk_7,especially there's also a html structure
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164 |
+
161,28.089316666666665,28.096666666666668,spk_7,um
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165 |
+
162,28.098666666666663,28.109483333333333,spk_7,that is
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166 |
+
163,28.11133333333333,28.13315,spk_7,needs to be very specific.
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167 |
+
164,28.14965,28.16415,spk_0,Exactly.
|
168 |
+
165,28.164316666666668,28.221166666666665,spk_0,Uh I just wanted to remind that we're not going to be writing code right away.
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169 |
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166,28.22133333333333,28.246983333333333,spk_0,But when we're designing the document
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170 |
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167,28.24965,28.28098333333333,spk_0,"that should be there as a requirement,"
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171 |
+
168,28.28115,28.30516666666667,spk_0,it's something that we need to be accounting for.
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172 |
+
169,28.305316666666663,28.358833333333333,spk_0,So that's the expectation level. Great. This is good. Thanks.
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170,28.359,28.394,spk_0,Anybody has any other thoughts about accessibility?
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174 |
+
171,28.477833333333333,28.48315,spk_0,Cool.
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175 |
+
172,28.48333333333333,28.557,spk_0,I feel like it's positive that we're talking about it at this stage of the project. Um
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176 |
+
173,28.562666666666665,28.5815,spk_0,"Thomas, you have a point here."
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177 |
+
174,28.593316666666663,28.61015,spk_0,"Yeah, so"
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178 |
+
175,28.61598333333333,28.626483333333333,spk_0,we can
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179 |
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176,28.62865,28.630983333333333,spk_2,"cut,"
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180 |
+
177,28.64816666666667,28.69233333333333,spk_2,we can kind of f accessibility into this. Um
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181 |
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178,28.70283333333333,28.73133333333333,spk_2,uh As part of my
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182 |
+
179,28.733666666666668,28.769166666666667,spk_2,milestone stuff. I review all my assignments.
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183 |
+
180,28.76933333333333,28.81215,spk_2,I was assigned a meta task for for new Ds.
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184 |
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181,28.813333333333333,28.853,spk_2,"So it's weird that I reviewed it because it's a meta task,"
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185 |
+
182,28.85315,28.87983333333333,spk_2,but I wrote some thoughts down
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186 |
+
183,28.882166666666667,28.925666666666668,spk_2,and one of them is um
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187 |
+
184,28.9355,28.978483333333333,spk_2,writing down documents about like budgets
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188 |
+
185,28.982983333333333,29.0045,spk_2,and data flow.
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189 |
+
186,29.0085,29.030483333333333,spk_2,And um
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190 |
+
187,29.03898333333333,29.046983333333333,spk_2,"when,"
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191 |
+
188,29.04715,29.096,spk_2,when I talk about budgets in the implicit
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192 |
+
189,29.096166666666665,29.13298333333333,spk_2,in that is our promises to users essentially.
|
193 |
+
190,29.13315,29.166666666666668,spk_2,And I think one of those things should be accessibility.
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194 |
+
191,29.17015,29.179666666666662,spk_2,Um
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195 |
+
192,29.185316666666665,29.20748333333333,spk_2,But other things are
|
196 |
+
193,29.223666666666663,29.23648333333333,spk_2,how
|
197 |
+
194,29.25283333333333,29.303816666666663,spk_2,heavy on the network is this new structure of
|
198 |
+
195,29.306833333333334,29.31148333333333,spk_2,DS.
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199 |
+
196,29.3155,29.3985,spk_2,"Um How heavy on a user's browser, is this new application or,"
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200 |
+
197,29.398666666666667,29.425833333333333,spk_2,"or new component or whatever,"
|
201 |
+
198,29.43915,29.45815,spk_2,how much code is executed?
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202 |
+
199,29.45833333333333,29.495483333333333,spk_2,"How much, how much, how long does it take those kinds of things?"
|
203 |
+
200,29.504666666666665,29.54348333333333,spk_2,Setting those budgets early and saying
|
204 |
+
201,29.54948333333333,29.61148333333333,spk_2,uh whatever we do has to be fully accessible to
|
205 |
+
202,29.61798333333333,29.67615,spk_2,fully blind people or fully deaf people or whatever. Um
|
206 |
+
203,29.684483333333333,29.69548333333333,spk_2,um
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207 |
+
204,29.702666666666666,29.754166666666663,spk_2,Those setting those early sets expectations for the whole
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208 |
+
205,29.761166666666668,29.776816666666665,spk_2,work that we do.
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209 |
+
206,29.780316666666668,29.826316666666667,spk_2,"Um So I think that that should be an early part of this documentation,"
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207,29.82648333333333,29.86215,spk_2,"not just the architecture, but what are our,"
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208,29.870316666666668,29.8815,spk_2,"what are,"
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209,29.881666666666668,29.956666666666667,spk_2,what are the difficult choices that we will accept for the benefit of our users?
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210,30.01631666666667,30.069816666666668,spk_2,"And I linked the, my, my review um"
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211,30.07733333333333,30.115166666666667,spk_2,that has a few of those things in there. But
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212,30.15165,30.214666666666663,spk_0,great thanks Thomas. Um I particularly like the budget documents.
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213,30.223,30.276316666666663,spk_0,"Um The data flow, we were already like, you'll be part of,"
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217 |
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214,30.27698333333333,30.306666666666665,spk_0,"I think the documentation anyway,"
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215,30.306833333333334,30.34915,spk_0,but uh the budget document is something that we can easily forget.
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219 |
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216,30.35615,30.369333333333334,spk_0,And
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220 |
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217,30.37265,30.383333333333333,spk_0,um
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221 |
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218,30.38915,30.43133333333333,spk_0,"when we're deciding about adding a new thing,"
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222 |
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219,30.4375,30.44748333333333,spk_0,"because you're right,"
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223 |
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220,30.44765,30.47865,spk_0,like we don't want to build something that is performance
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224 |
+
221,30.478816666666667,30.52533333333333,spk_0,on the day one and then on day 365.
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222,30.5255,30.551316666666665,spk_0,"0 my God, it's slow again. Why?"
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226 |
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223,30.561,30.608666666666668,spk_0,"Yeah, definitely something to keep us in check. Um"
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224,30.62183333333333,30.67065,spk_0,uh Potentially we can even talk about um
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225,30.67848333333333,30.694166666666668,spk_0,linking
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226,30.71215,30.725166666666667,spk_0,to like
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230 |
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227,30.73048333333333,30.74115,spk_0,adding
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231 |
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228,30.74965,30.841833333333334,spk_0,"linking tools C I checks, et cetera. Definitely makes sense to keep us in line."
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229,30.867166666666662,30.878,spk_0,And I guess
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233 |
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230,30.884816666666666,30.948166666666665,spk_2,"we should probably, I should probably note somewhere. We should note that um"
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231,30.95165,30.986166666666666,spk_2,the word budget is intentional because
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232,30.990816666666667,31.06815,spk_2,"budgets are reviewed quarterly or yearly. And if you're not meeting them, you"
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233,31.0735,31.084816666666665,spk_2,um
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237 |
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234,31.091666666666665,31.10683333333333,spk_2,you adjust
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238 |
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235,31.120483333333333,31.136816666666668,spk_2,to meet your budget.
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239 |
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236,31.136983333333333,31.175166666666662,spk_2,"So we should make sure that we're, we're continually doing this,"
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240 |
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237,31.17533333333333,31.19748333333333,spk_2,not just as an initial target.
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238,31.229666666666667,31.2485,spk_0,Got it. Thanks.
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242 |
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239,31.253316666666667,31.262316666666667,spk_0,Uh
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243 |
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240,31.28783333333333,31.307316666666665,spk_0,ok. So
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244 |
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241,31.319666666666667,31.33865,spk_0,there was one thing
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245 |
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242,31.3425,31.385316666666668,spk_0,that has been throughout all these discussions
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243,31.38865,31.436,spk_0,"that we haven't talked yet, which is maintainability."
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247 |
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244,31.44033333333333,31.47733333333333,spk_0,One of the problems we faced with working with
|
248 |
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245,31.4775,31.526,spk_0,this is that the application itself is so complex
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249 |
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246,31.529166666666665,31.553816666666663,spk_0,"that over time,"
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247,31.555,31.626483333333333,spk_0,the maintainability of the app just suffers and
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251 |
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248,31.62665,31.67248333333333,spk_0,"especially with a native approach or building things,"
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252 |
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249,31.67898333333333,31.760316666666668,spk_0,the based of boring solutions. Um And then eventually we can just keep it at
|
253 |
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250,31.762666666666668,31.794,spk_0,that stage for a really long time.
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254 |
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251,31.813983333333333,31.824316666666668,spk_0,Um
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255 |
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252,31.8385,31.86733333333333,spk_0,We have plenty of examples for sure.
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256 |
+
253,31.8735,31.940816666666667,spk_0,Um But I think one of the things we have to keep in mind is um
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257 |
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254,31.945833333333333,31.988166666666668,spk_0,"an improved or released,"
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258 |
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255,32.00266666666667,32.0275,spk_0,improve maintainability
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259 |
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256,32.04698333333333,32.102666666666664,spk_0,"uh than what we have today. And I think,"
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260 |
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257,32.10815,32.14666666666667,spk_0,does anybody disagree with that being a goal?
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261 |
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258,32.159,32.17015,spk_0,Let's put it that way.
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262 |
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259,32.20548333333333,32.212833333333336,spk_2,"You wanna,"
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260,32.23531666666667,32.28366666666667,spk_2,you wanna spend the next 20 minutes defining maintainability?
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264 |
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261,32.32065,32.321,spk_0,I
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265 |
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262,32.32448333333333,32.38231666666667,spk_0,"thought you're gonna say uh do, do you wanna kick the person who says yet? No."
|
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263,32.385666666666665,32.39833333333333,spk_0,Um
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267 |
+
264,32.41316666666667,32.42281666666667,spk_0,"I mean,"
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268 |
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265,32.425333333333334,32.45033333333333,spk_0,"sure. What, what do we"
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266,32.4525,32.47533333333333,spk_0,like? I think we have a
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267,32.48016666666667,32.52048333333333,spk_0,maybe I have an idea of what maintainability is but
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271 |
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268,32.52065,32.572316666666666,spk_0,uh should we take a stab at like defining that roughly
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272 |
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269,32.63315,32.67015,spk_0,"or do we just keep it right at the moment? And we,"
|
273 |
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270,32.70216666666666,32.70516666666666,spk_8,"I,"
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271,32.707816666666666,32.75731666666667,spk_8,"I think you have to, it has to be defined at some point."
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272,32.75748333333333,32.79266666666667,spk_8,"I don't know if this is the point to do it, but we have to,"
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273,32.79281666666667,32.81648333333333,spk_8,we do have to have that conversation.
|
277 |
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274,32.81933333333333,32.85981666666667,spk_8,"There has to be a metric where we're never gonna do it. It's just,"
|
278 |
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275,32.86848333333333,32.89915,spk_8,"yeah, if we can't measure it, what can we do?"
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279 |
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276,32.910833333333336,32.971833333333336,spk_0,All right. So let's uh let's open an issue to do that as synchronously
|
280 |
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277,32.98383333333334,32.99816666666667,spk_0,move to an issue
|
281 |
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278,33.000166666666665,33.05798333333333,spk_0,to iterate on a joint definition
|
282 |
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279,33.06666666666667,33.08833333333333,spk_0,of maintainability.
|
283 |
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280,33.103,33.196666666666665,spk_0,"It was like we're moving in a W three C standard where we have like what this must mean,"
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284 |
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281,33.19683333333333,33.234,spk_0,what this should mean and that's good.
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285 |
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282,33.23416666666667,33.303,spk_0,"That's a positive thing, fellas and, and gals because I think that's the"
|
286 |
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283,33.311166666666665,33.34466666666667,spk_0,how we get the standard to live on
|
287 |
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284,33.34965,33.40266666666667,spk_0,"uh without misinterpretation along the way. So,"
|
288 |
+
285,33.4065,33.44065,spk_0,"yeah, thanks for bringing it up. Let's move that to an issue."
|
289 |
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286,33.45131666666666,33.462666666666664,spk_0,Um
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290 |
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287,33.46483333333333,33.535666666666664,spk_0,I put here then the bottom create issue to define maintainability.
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291 |
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288,33.557,33.57516666666667,spk_0,Um Cool.
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292 |
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289,33.58931666666667,33.60365,spk_0,Uh
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293 |
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290,33.62533333333333,33.6335,spk_0,All right.
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294 |
+
291,33.6585,33.71815,spk_0,"Any other goals that we should keep in mind? So let's recap, let's recap."
|
295 |
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292,33.71831666666667,33.7655,spk_0,"So, create a document for the architecture, which is the main goal."
|
296 |
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293,33.76815,33.81516666666667,spk_0,We need to cover all scenarios where diffs are used around git lab.
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297 |
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294,33.830983333333336,33.872816666666665,spk_0,"We need performance,"
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298 |
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295,33.87615,33.9105,spk_0,"we need to keep it perform. Oh, sorry."
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299 |
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296,33.91598333333334,33.94298333333333,spk_0,I should read the rest of the phrase
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300 |
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297,33.94416666666667,33.993833333333335,spk_0,performance not being degraded regardless of how big the
|
301 |
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298,34.00131666666667,34.013333333333335,spk_0,depths
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302 |
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299,34.026983333333334,34.07431666666667,spk_0,"the diff is? See, it's gonna happen a lot of times"
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303 |
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300,34.07933333333333,34.08465,spk_0,it's not
|
304 |
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301,34.08865,34.092666666666666,spk_0,"ear,"
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305 |
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302,34.098333333333336,34.11516666666667,spk_0,it's notar it's diff
|
306 |
+
303,34.13613333333333,34.18245,spk_0,uh accessible app for the users. Um
|
307 |
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304,34.213,34.239333333333335,spk_0,"uh We'll need to define,"
|
308 |
+
305,34.24431666666667,34.2965,spk_0,define boundaries and user first promises uh which is
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309 |
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306,34.29881666666667,34.31648333333333,spk_0,"documents for budget,"
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310 |
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307,34.31666666666667,34.3625,spk_0,documents for data flow and potentially like targets for lending
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311 |
+
308,34.36898333333333,34.41931666666667,spk_0,and uh an improvement in ability that why we have today.
|
312 |
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309,34.43646666666667,34.45081666666667,spk_0,Uh
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313 |
+
310,34.47715,34.4935,spk_0,Anything missing
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314 |
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311,34.52263333333333,34.535466666666665,spk_0,objectives.
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315 |
+
312,34.583333333333336,34.63965,spk_1,How about metrics like uh performance metrics
|
316 |
+
313,34.652483333333336,34.65763333333334,spk_1,use H
|
317 |
+
314,34.659333333333336,34.670316666666665,spk_1,metrics?
|
318 |
+
315,34.72083333333333,34.770316666666666,spk_0,"Um How should we, so what's the target there?"
|
319 |
+
316,34.8045,34.814816666666665,spk_1,"Yeah, I mean,"
|
320 |
+
317,34.821,34.87448333333333,spk_1,"right now, I don't know. I mean, we have, we have very nice for performance"
|
321 |
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318,34.87616666666667,34.89848333333333,spk_1,and mix because we have dark
|
322 |
+
319,34.906816666666664,34.9135,spk_1,for
|
323 |
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320,34.93116666666667,34.95016666666667,spk_1,back end and fun and
|
324 |
+
321,34.9545,34.965316666666666,spk_1,fun times.
|
325 |
+
322,34.9755,34.98615,spk_1,That's one.
|
326 |
+
323,35.003483333333335,35.01531666666666,spk_1,"But for,"
|
327 |
+
324,35.02183333333333,35.03333333333333,spk_1,"yeah, go ahead and get it."
|
328 |
+
325,35.038666666666664,35.04848333333333,spk_1,Go ahead.
|
329 |
+
326,35.05083333333334,35.07566666666666,spk_1,"But for usage usage metrics,"
|
330 |
+
327,35.07748333333333,35.08165,spk_1,image for
|
331 |
+
328,35.085,35.08631666666667,spk_1,"you,"
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332 |
+
329,35.11266666666667,35.172333333333334,spk_0,"I think, I think I'm gonna channel my Stanislav"
|
333 |
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330,35.17633333333333,35.193983333333335,spk_0,because he's sick.
|
334 |
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331,35.19683333333333,35.214983333333336,spk_0,So I'm gonna pull him in
|
335 |
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332,35.22015,35.251,spk_0,and I'm gonna be speaking as if I was him
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336 |
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333,35.26266666666667,35.274316666666664,spk_0,um
|
337 |
+
334,35.28581666666667,35.35231666666667,spk_0,because we've talked about this in the past and I think Thomas as well is um to not
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338 |
+
335,35.36416666666667,35.4085,spk_0,do not pursue vanity metrics. What does this mean?
|
339 |
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336,35.424483333333335,35.5095,spk_0,"If we, if we think about the usual metrics we have, which is time the first bite."
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340 |
+
337,35.514,35.52815,spk_0,Um
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341 |
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338,35.533833333333334,35.57415,spk_0,I don't know. Uh LCP and
|
342 |
+
339,35.5805,35.63315,spk_0,uh T BT s and all that stuff. A lot of those metrics can have.
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343 |
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340,35.64565,35.674483333333335,spk_0,"It was you, Thomas. Yes,"
|
344 |
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341,35.67881666666667,35.70215,spk_0,that's blurry. So
|
345 |
+
342,35.713166666666666,35.7935,spk_0,"area. No, like a youtuber look at that, like look at, look at my, look at my thing."
|
346 |
+
343,35.79848333333333,35.86481666666667,spk_0,"Uh So yeah, the point of that is we should pursue meaningful metrics."
|
347 |
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344,35.864983333333335,35.8795,spk_0,"I think that's,"
|
348 |
+
345,35.8805,35.948483333333336,spk_0,"that's how we can word it and what's meaningful is meaningful for our project,"
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349 |
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346,35.95248333333333,35.976166666666664,spk_0,which means we're probably gonna need to
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350 |
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347,35.97898333333333,36.004333333333335,spk_0,define those metrics
|
351 |
+
348,36.009166666666665,36.04481666666667,spk_0,and one of them falls into what Thomas was talking about.
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352 |
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349,36.04498333333333,36.11383333333333,spk_0,"The budget documents, right? Is things specifically built for us"
|
353 |
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350,36.11816666666667,36.186816666666665,spk_0,because I can give you an example. We we had major improvement on TV T
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354 |
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351,36.197,36.21115,spk_0,"recently,"
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355 |
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352,36.22815,36.27583333333333,spk_0,"but that came at a cost of some viability, right?"
|
356 |
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353,36.28,36.34131666666666,spk_0,"And it wasn't, it was conscious, we knew what we were doing. But"
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357 |
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354,36.3505,36.3765,spk_0,what I think we need to
|
358 |
+
355,36.38483333333333,36.42381666666667,spk_0,think a little bit deeper about is
|
359 |
+
356,36.43715,36.51,spk_0,why do we want to move those metrics and what's the impact of that to the user? So
|
360 |
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357,36.51198333333333,36.564166666666665,spk_0,which goes a little bit to my next point of order priorities.
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361 |
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358,36.56433333333333,36.59065,spk_0,We're gonna grab all these goals and we're going to
|
362 |
+
359,36.59081666666667,36.64683333333333,spk_0,put them in order and like what's the most important thing
|
363 |
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360,36.649483333333336,36.70966666666666,spk_0,"first and then having, if we have to make a choice between some of those."
|
364 |
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361,36.709833333333336,36.72481666666667,spk_0,"So for example,"
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365 |
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362,36.73315,36.77415,spk_0,if we need to sacrifice um
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366 |
+
363,36.7895,36.80781666666667,spk_0,accessibility
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367 |
+
364,36.81065,36.835816666666666,spk_0,for performance
|
368 |
+
365,36.84381666666667,36.85833333333333,spk_0,should be
|
369 |
+
366,36.871,36.89031666666666,spk_0,right? Um
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370 |
+
367,36.89565,36.906,spk_0,I think
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371 |
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368,36.9175,37.01181666666667,spk_0,having an order um of uh priorities definitely helps later on in the project.
|
372 |
+
369,37.01198333333333,37.079166666666666,spk_0,"Um W three C does this with uh V html five spec where it's,"
|
373 |
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370,37.07933333333333,37.13433333333333,spk_0,"it specifies exactly who comes first, like users comes first,"
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374 |
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371,37.139,37.2045,spk_0,then comes authors then comes browser implementer implementer and then comes
|
375 |
+
372,37.20916666666667,37.24633333333333,spk_0,specter or whatever or theoretical purity.
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376 |
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373,37.24815,37.30166666666667,spk_0,So there has some priority order there.
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377 |
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374,37.30781666666667,37.35648333333334,spk_0,"Um So for us and a little bit more reasonable,"
|
378 |
+
375,37.35665,37.38248333333333,spk_0,I don't want to sacrifice accessibility.
|
379 |
+
376,37.38265,37.40983333333333,spk_0,But if you think about more of
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380 |
+
377,37.41565,37.47015,spk_0,"perceived performance or meaningful metrics, like we're talking about here,"
|
381 |
+
378,37.47715,37.507983333333335,spk_0,um meaningful metrics
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382 |
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379,37.5135,37.55265,spk_0,"versus maintainability, I think we're,"
|
383 |
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380,37.56333333333333,37.619483333333335,spk_0,we should probably sacrifice maintainability a little bit if that comes with
|
384 |
+
381,37.61965,37.677483333333335,spk_0,some benefit to the perceived performance or to the meaningful metrics.
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385 |
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382,37.68598333333333,37.72731666666667,spk_0,"So if anything metrics to this point,"
|
386 |
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383,37.74216666666667,37.77166666666667,spk_0,I would just add meaningful metrics
|
387 |
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384,37.785,37.828316666666666,spk_0,"and in parentheses, Thomas will put not vanity."
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388 |
+
385,37.873983333333335,37.88916666666667,spk_0,#NAME?
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389 |
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386,37.905166666666666,37.943333333333335,spk_1,"Yeah, makes sense. Makes a lot of sense. I agree."
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390 |
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387,37.945483333333335,37.951,spk_1,OK.
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391 |
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388,37.96,37.990316666666665,spk_2,I think uh as part of our
|
392 |
+
389,37.99316666666667,38.01266666666667,spk_2,"documentation process,"
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393 |
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390,38.01283333333333,38.068333333333335,spk_2,"we should define something like the W three C like who comes first or,"
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394 |
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391,38.0685,38.1015,spk_2,"or what comes first, obviously"
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395 |
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392,38.10483333333333,38.141666666666666,spk_2,"users, right? And then like, what does that mean?"
|
396 |
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393,38.14183333333333,38.212316666666666,spk_2,"So like formats accessibility, what, what's the order of how we sacrifice things?"
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397 |
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394,38.22331666666667,38.23165,spk_2,Um
|
398 |
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395,38.25331666666667,38.30866666666667,spk_2,"I'll, I'll say it since it's, it's not popular in the front end."
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399 |
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396,38.30883333333333,38.3885,spk_2,"Industry developers should be last. Our, our experience should be last."
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400 |
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397,38.388666666666666,38.44266666666667,spk_2,"The DX should not be important. Um So,"
|
401 |
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398,38.47065,38.52065,spk_0,so I'm gonna grab this recording when later you're complaining about
|
402 |
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399,38.520833333333336,38.54881666666667,spk_0,"a bug that is really hard to fix and like,"
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403 |
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400,38.54898333333333,38.56115,spk_0,"hey, listen,"
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401,38.575833333333335,38.59783333333333,spk_0,"look at this old friend,"
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+
402,38.61165,38.63016666666667,spk_0,I agree with you. I agree with that.
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403,38.63033333333333,38.66181666666667,spk_0,"I think, I think it's just, yeah, we,"
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407 |
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404,38.66198333333333,38.7125,spk_0,"we've lived through many hard problems to solve, to know"
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408 |
+
405,38.72331666666667,38.75281666666667,spk_0,"they come at a cost per Yeah,"
|
409 |
+
406,38.78665,38.795316666666665,spk_0,cool.
|
410 |
+
407,38.801,38.84065,spk_0,So I wrote Meaningful Metrics. Thanks Patrick.
|
411 |
+
408,38.84081666666667,38.893,spk_0,"Uh Again, we're probably gonna need to need to be defined,"
|
412 |
+
409,38.94448333333333,38.96816666666667,spk_0,"great issue, I guess."
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413 |
+
410,38.98248333333333,39.0135,spk_0,Um create
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414 |
+
411,39.01948333333333,39.05466666666667,spk_0,issues or meaningful
|
415 |
+
412,39.064816666666665,39.13565,spk_0,"metrics. Uh And we can use some things that we've used in the past, which is um"
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416 |
+
413,39.14216666666667,39.16316666666667,spk_0,custom defined
|
417 |
+
414,39.16833333333334,39.18116666666667,spk_0,what we call it.
|
418 |
+
415,39.21965,39.23265,spk_0,Um
|
419 |
+
416,39.2375,39.24666666666667,spk_0,The clery
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420 |
+
417,39.251,39.29065,spk_0,P I that we have on the browser that we can ma uh
|
421 |
+
418,39.30665,39.364983333333335,spk_0,a user markings. Uh You can have markings on the front end that like
|
422 |
+
419,39.368,39.406,spk_0,"define stages of the render of the application,"
|
423 |
+
420,39.41065,39.47315,spk_0,which include the performance of the back end and the front end all at once.
|
424 |
+
421,39.47331666666667,39.53131666666667,spk_0,"And we can define those things and implement it at the front end in terms of that,"
|
425 |
+
422,39.53265,39.58231666666666,spk_0,"which doesn't exclude having all the metrics for the backend exclusive,"
|
426 |
+
423,39.582483333333336,39.60983333333333,spk_0,all the metrics for Galley and all that stuff.
|
427 |
+
424,39.61,39.64366666666667,spk_0,So that's why this is gonna be a joint effort because
|
428 |
+
425,39.64481666666666,39.67933333333333,spk_0,this might mean different things for each one of us.
|
429 |
+
426,39.6795,39.689,spk_0,So
|
430 |
+
427,39.70483333333333,39.7225,spk_1,we'll keep your eye in the loop.
|
431 |
+
428,39.74583333333333,39.756816666666666,spk_0,All right.
|
432 |
+
429,39.77133333333333,39.81548333333333,spk_0,Anything else in terms of objectives?
|
433 |
+
430,39.86898333333333,39.88,spk_0,Um
|
434 |
+
431,39.891666666666666,39.90798333333333,spk_0,So we have seven minutes
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435 |
+
432,39.92083333333333,39.93265,spk_0,um
|
436 |
+
433,39.95248333333333,39.98148333333334,spk_0,"before I go to order priorities,"
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437 |
+
434,39.99366666666667,40.055,spk_0,"I'll ask, should we have also an issue to discuss the, I'll,"
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,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
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+
0,41.03131666666667,41.048316666666665,spk_0,that's
|
3 |
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1,41.0505,41.06565,spk_0,"accessible,"
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4 |
+
2,41.092333333333336,41.10966666666667,spk_1,users
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5 |
+
3,41.1225,41.14216666666667,spk_0,uh improved
|
6 |
+
4,41.16283333333333,41.21515,spk_0,can probably find better words for this later and maintain the ability.
|
7 |
+
5,41.24965,41.28731666666667,spk_0,"Uh What we talked about. Oh, we skipped one."
|
8 |
+
6,41.31316666666667,41.32683333333333,spk_0,Um
|
9 |
+
7,41.372166666666665,41.39148333333333,spk_0,How should we call your point?
|
10 |
+
8,41.391666666666666,41.439166666666665,spk_0,Thomas to find boundaries and user first promises early?
|
11 |
+
9,41.46565,41.542,spk_0,"Is that part of the relevant metrics, meaningful metrics? Can we keep it in there?"
|
12 |
+
10,41.55833333333333,41.59865,spk_2,"Yeah, it's part of it for sure."
|
13 |
+
11,41.61366666666667,41.6645,spk_2,"There are also, I think it's also just like define um"
|
14 |
+
12,41.680166666666665,41.70583333333333,spk_2,"it's like defining deliverables, right?"
|
15 |
+
13,41.706,41.78181666666666,spk_2,"Like like uh like something is not complete if we, if it's not accessible,"
|
16 |
+
14,41.78565,41.84048333333333,spk_2,um it's not complete if it's um
|
17 |
+
15,41.85715,41.86716666666667,spk_2,if it
|
18 |
+
16,41.89915,41.91148333333334,spk_2,takes
|
19 |
+
17,41.91333333333333,42.0055,spk_2,a full second to get the code for it across the network or whatever. Um So it's like
|
20 |
+
18,42.017833333333336,42.03,spk_2,um
|
21 |
+
19,42.0395,42.088,spk_2,what are acceptable deliverable sort of
|
22 |
+
20,42.115316666666665,42.14098333333333,spk_2,"boundary. Yeah, I'm not sure."
|
23 |
+
21,42.15616666666666,42.189166666666665,spk_0,"Yeah, I think that's if we, if we frame it,"
|
24 |
+
22,42.18933333333333,42.21881666666667,spk_0,"I think that's part of the meaningful metrics,"
|
25 |
+
23,42.21898333333333,42.26181666666667,spk_0,we define the meaningful metrics and in there will
|
26 |
+
24,42.26198333333333,42.3125,spk_0,be compliance with the budget in there would be
|
27 |
+
25,42.316833333333335,42.37916666666667,spk_0,"time to get the data from Gidley or time to get the data from the rail side or,"
|
28 |
+
26,42.379333333333335,42.39716666666666,spk_0,or anything like that.
|
29 |
+
27,42.409,42.45066666666666,spk_0,I think we can keep it for now covered with the meaningful metric.
|
30 |
+
28,42.450833333333335,42.492,spk_0,So we have so covers of all these scenarios
|
31 |
+
29,42.49733333333333,42.524816666666666,spk_0,"uh which, which goes"
|
32 |
+
30,42.52966666666666,42.57933333333333,spk_0,"we, we can put it at odds with some particular scenarios that don't make sense,"
|
33 |
+
31,42.589,42.6475,spk_0,"performance regardless of this size, which is part of meaningful metrics."
|
34 |
+
32,42.647666666666666,42.66733333333333,spk_0,Should we erase that?
|
35 |
+
33,42.78766666666667,42.7975,spk_0,"Yeah, I"
|
36 |
+
34,42.802,42.81783333333333,spk_2,think so.
|
37 |
+
35,42.82715,42.83148333333333,spk_2,So we
|
38 |
+
36,42.833333333333336,42.8675,spk_2,have our performance budget should work no matter what
|
39 |
+
37,42.87715,42.93066666666667,spk_0,"coverage of these scenarios accessible improvement in ability,"
|
40 |
+
38,42.93083333333333,42.94981666666666,spk_0,"meaningful metrics,"
|
41 |
+
39,42.96366666666667,43.00866666666667,spk_0,"which is per performance, I guess as a whole."
|
42 |
+
40,43.0225,43.03715,spk_0,Um
|
43 |
+
41,43.0635,43.1185,spk_0,"Oh, we missed one. Can we create a shared documents followed with some organization"
|
44 |
+
42,43.13516666666666,43.15133333333333,spk_0,to start keeping artic
|
45 |
+
43,43.155166666666666,43.15983333333333,spk_0,one? But
|
46 |
+
44,43.17133333333334,43.18248333333333,spk_2,"this wasn't,"
|
47 |
+
45,43.18516666666667,43.2435,spk_2,"I didn't, I didn't vocalize it because we, we this is very,"
|
48 |
+
46,43.256483333333335,43.27865,spk_2,but like uh
|
49 |
+
47,43.28981666666667,43.32748333333333,spk_2,"we can't work exclusively in issues, right?"
|
50 |
+
48,43.32765,43.42881666666667,spk_2,"Because an issue is like something that eventually is closed um or resolved where,"
|
51 |
+
49,43.428983333333335,43.45398333333333,spk_2,where are we going to keep things?
|
52 |
+
50,43.454166666666666,43.508833333333335,spk_2,"Should we, should we create a wiki? Should we use our wiki feature?"
|
53 |
+
51,43.5125,43.55815,spk_2,#NAME?
|
54 |
+
52,43.58766666666666,43.638,spk_0,"Uh I don't, I've never been involved in architecture design workflow."
|
55 |
+
53,43.63816666666666,43.695483333333335,spk_0,"If anybody has, please, maybe Patrick or Carry you were"
|
56 |
+
54,43.70133333333333,43.71181666666666,spk_0,um
|
57 |
+
55,43.7225,43.74465,spk_0,"I was thinking about just using the,"
|
58 |
+
56,43.744816666666665,43.78366666666667,spk_0,we're gonna start to put things in
|
59 |
+
57,43.78383333333333,43.82266666666666,spk_0,the documentation itself of the architecture design.
|
60 |
+
58,43.82516666666667,43.8925,spk_0,"There's already a status for like proposed, accepted that sort of thing."
|
61 |
+
59,43.899816666666666,43.930166666666665,spk_0,So we should not re invent the wheel and just
|
62 |
+
60,43.93033333333333,43.98181666666667,spk_0,"use the documentation as a living spec as we go,"
|
63 |
+
61,43.98198333333333,43.99798333333333,spk_0,we take it through the
|
64 |
+
62,44.005,44.04031666666667,spk_0,the stages. I think that's what makes more sense.
|
65 |
+
63,44.04583333333333,44.06465,spk_0,Anybody disagrees.
|
66 |
+
64,44.08833333333333,44.1,spk_0,Does that make sense?
|
67 |
+
65,44.138333333333335,44.13883333333333,spk_7,OK.
|
68 |
+
66,44.153983333333336,44.20715,spk_7,Uh How about the things that would not go into documents?
|
69 |
+
67,44.20731666666666,44.26833333333333,spk_7,"Like if I'm doing the audit, it's not gonna end up all there."
|
70 |
+
68,44.28181666666666,44.30033333333333,spk_7,Um
|
71 |
+
69,44.30433333333333,44.330333333333336,spk_7,So should I just keep that
|
72 |
+
70,44.34333333333333,44.36033333333334,spk_7,#NAME?
|
73 |
+
71,44.39448333333333,44.42881666666667,spk_0,"Um I mean, we definitely can find a"
|
74 |
+
72,44.43165,44.485816666666665,spk_0,Google Drive boulder to keep things organized.
|
75 |
+
73,44.48783333333333,44.51931666666667,spk_0,I think that's OK. Like a
|
76 |
+
74,44.5305,44.57666666666667,spk_0,artifact of investigations. Sure.
|
77 |
+
75,44.584,44.61783333333333,spk_0,Uh Maybe that can cover what Thomas was saying.
|
78 |
+
76,44.618,44.63131666666666,spk_0,"But in terms of like,"
|
79 |
+
77,44.631483333333335,44.66048333333333,spk_0,we should keep in mind that the effort should
|
80 |
+
78,44.66065,44.69415,spk_0,be to update the documentation that we're putting out.
|
81 |
+
79,44.70483333333333,44.75033333333333,spk_0,"And if like for example, if it makes sense to"
|
82 |
+
80,44.75331666666666,44.78248333333333,spk_0,"reference the artist that you did,"
|
83 |
+
81,44.78783333333333,44.7975,spk_0,you can keep it in the
|
84 |
+
82,44.799483333333335,44.84481666666667,spk_0,doc but link it on the living spec living on the
|
85 |
+
83,44.84881666666666,44.88248333333333,spk_0,link it on the documentation that we're merging.
|
86 |
+
84,44.89431666666667,44.899483333333336,spk_0,Mhm
|
87 |
+
85,44.90231666666666,44.90983333333333,spk_0,OK.
|
88 |
+
86,44.91165,44.95798333333333,spk_0,"Still let's build a Google Drive just for,"
|
89 |
+
87,44.97398333333334,45.03366666666667,spk_2,"yeah, I think we should have a Google Drive maybe for like drafts or like, hey,"
|
90 |
+
88,45.03383333333333,45.064166666666665,spk_2,I'm doing this audit and here's a bunch of stuff.
|
91 |
+
89,45.06433333333333,45.122166666666665,spk_2,"But if we're gonna be linking like data or like report results,"
|
92 |
+
90,45.13315,45.16481666666667,spk_2,we should probably be using kit lab.
|
93 |
+
91,45.177816666666665,45.1895,spk_2,So like
|
94 |
+
92,45.19415,45.20883333333333,spk_2,uh
|
95 |
+
93,45.21683333333333,45.24815,spk_2,"that's why I suggested wiki like that,"
|
96 |
+
94,45.24831666666667,45.28866666666666,spk_2,that can maybe we can store larger artifacts over
|
97 |
+
95,45.288833333333336,45.32116666666667,spk_2,in wiki and then link it from the documentation.
|
98 |
+
96,45.321333333333335,45.33165,spk_2,I'm not sure.
|
99 |
+
97,45.33383333333333,45.342333333333336,spk_2,But
|
100 |
+
98,45.34583333333333,45.39481666666666,spk_2,#NAME?
|
101 |
+
99,45.39881666666667,45.434666666666665,spk_2,that Google Drive necessarily means it's like
|
102 |
+
100,45.44166666666667,45.47881666666667,spk_2,private and we're keeping it a secret.
|
103 |
+
101,45.481316666666665,45.53148333333333,spk_2,Um And maybe we should default to something more public.
|
104 |
+
102,45.54266666666667,45.589,spk_0,"Not necessarily, you can have Google Docs that are public"
|
105 |
+
103,45.59498333333333,45.6125,spk_0,#NAME?
|
106 |
+
104,45.61783333333333,45.62533333333333,spk_1,Yeah.
|
107 |
+
105,45.631166666666665,45.63681666666667,spk_1,Yeah.
|
108 |
+
106,45.649483333333336,45.652,spk_8,Yeah.
|
109 |
+
107,45.6645,45.6675,spk_8,The
|
110 |
+
108,45.66931666666667,45.73433333333333,spk_8,"it's the pattern of, of use though. It really is like Google Docs is like,"
|
111 |
+
109,45.75265,45.78715,spk_8,"yeah, it's kind of hidden enough to decide."
|
112 |
+
110,45.81098333333333,45.8255,spk_1,"-- Shouldn't
|
113 |
+
-- we use skip?"
|
114 |
+
111,45.8345,45.8505,spk_2,"We, we should use"
|
115 |
+
112,45.85416666666666,45.86181666666667,spk_2,"Gab, right?"
|
116 |
+
113,45.87533333333333,45.89216666666667,spk_1,"Hey, I have an idea."
|
117 |
+
114,45.89398333333333,45.90116666666667,spk_1,Let's use
|
118 |
+
115,45.90416666666667,45.90466666666666,spk_1,GI
|
119 |
+
116,45.9085,45.91048333333333,spk_1,lab.
|
120 |
+
117,45.9175,45.927816666666665,spk_1,OK.
|
121 |
+
118,45.94733333333333,46.00533333333333,spk_0,"All right. Let's talk about it on Slack. I mean, whatever people are agreeing."
|
122 |
+
119,46.0055,46.040816666666665,spk_0,II I would have a problem with. Um
|
123 |
+
120,46.06433333333333,46.11416666666667,spk_0,"All right. So let's not take any actions, let's discuss, let's discuss this thing."
|
124 |
+
121,46.17183333333333,46.207483333333336,spk_0,Almost you start the discussion on Slack
|
125 |
+
122,46.212833333333336,46.25116666666667,spk_0,"um or on the Gila issue. Sorry,"
|
126 |
+
123,46.25566666666667,46.27283333333333,spk_0,because we need to talk for.
|
127 |
+
124,46.27666666666666,46.28333333333333,spk_0,Um
|
128 |
+
125,46.29716666666667,46.34798333333333,spk_0,"OK. So looking at the immediate task at hand,"
|
129 |
+
126,46.35265,46.36283333333333,spk_0,uh
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130 |
+
127,46.369483333333335,46.427483333333335,spk_0,"I'm sorry, looking at the other priorities which we need to move to an issue."
|
131 |
+
128,46.44166666666667,46.4555,spk_0,Um
|
132 |
+
129,46.50781666666666,46.5675,spk_0,"So what I think would, would do is like ordered."
|
133 |
+
130,46.57083333333333,46.614,spk_0,An example example would be
|
134 |
+
131,46.61931666666667,46.64481666666666,spk_0,"like meaningful metrics,"
|
135 |
+
132,46.692166666666665,46.701,spk_0,"comes,"
|
136 |
+
133,46.71181666666666,46.72166666666666,spk_0,comes
|
137 |
+
134,46.726333333333336,46.760333333333335,spk_0,"before then maintain,"
|
138 |
+
135,46.76565,46.81498333333333,spk_0,maintain ability. That would be the first choice.
|
139 |
+
136,46.82065,46.8475,spk_0,Uh accessibility
|
140 |
+
137,46.87116666666667,46.909666666666666,spk_0,should also come before maintainability.
|
141 |
+
138,46.91498333333333,46.926833333333335,spk_0,Um
|
142 |
+
139,46.97048333333333,47.022666666666666,spk_0,coverage for all these scenarios. That's a tricky one.
|
143 |
+
140,47.024483333333336,47.03766666666667,spk_0,But I
|
144 |
+
141,47.04098333333334,47.088166666666666,spk_0,I'm just giving an example like you don't have to agree with that. Um
|
145 |
+
142,47.10265,47.1515,spk_0,I I would say uh so we can
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146 |
+
143,47.15631666666667,47.16833333333334,spk_0,keep it
|
147 |
+
144,47.17381666666667,47.18631666666667,spk_1,coverage
|
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+
145,47.20381666666667,47.23766666666667,spk_0,because it needs to be accessible.
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+
146,47.23783333333333,47.284666666666666,spk_0,"But he thought some things might not cover all scenarios,"
|
150 |
+
147,47.28816666666667,47.309666666666665,spk_0,maintainability. What's missing?
|
151 |
+
148,47.313,47.327,spk_0,"234,"
|
152 |
+
149,47.34981666666667,47.41033333333333,spk_0,"that's it. 1234. Yeah, so that, that this would be an example of uh"
|
153 |
+
150,47.4265,47.43998333333333,spk_0,to start off with.
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154 |
+
151,47.44015,47.471833333333336,spk_0,"We might have different things that we add in the as we go,"
|
155 |
+
152,47.472,47.50298333333333,spk_0,but at least we'll have a place to document it
|
156 |
+
153,47.50698333333333,47.53598333333333,spk_0,and this will be part of the documentation.
|
157 |
+
154,47.540816666666665,47.5845,spk_0,Just an example. Let's move the discussion to an issue. OK.
|
158 |
+
155,47.69031666666667,47.69048333333333,spk_0,Uh
|
159 |
+
156,47.698483333333336,47.73866666666667,spk_0,And that takes me over time.
|
160 |
+
157,47.74048333333333,47.80583333333333,spk_0,Uh So I need people to claim these immediate tasks at hand.
|
161 |
+
158,47.814,47.82765,spk_0,Um
|
162 |
+
159,47.83715,47.895833333333336,spk_0,We need some people to start opening the MRS for the documentation
|
163 |
+
160,47.89915,47.96683333333333,spk_0,just to get it started as a draft or whatever the status is. Um
|
164 |
+
161,47.9755,48.0345,spk_0,And I need someone to claim that task. I need someone um
|
165 |
+
162,48.046,48.115316666666665,spk_0,"to create the issue to gather all the existing issues and that's the point is OK,"
|
166 |
+
163,48.11548333333333,48.125,spk_0,"the issue,"
|
167 |
+
164,48.13033333333333,48.16433333333333,spk_0,but then you broadcast it to everybody to
|
168 |
+
165,48.177483333333335,48.22715,spk_0,uh add comments to that issue or something or add to the description
|
169 |
+
166,48.255833333333335,48.28548333333333,spk_0,"um and, and ask"
|
170 |
+
167,48.301833333333335,48.31215,spk_0,"what happened,"
|
171 |
+
168,48.323483333333336,48.339,spk_0,something changed.
|
172 |
+
169,48.34481666666667,48.35731666666667,spk_0,"Oh yeah, I did a comment."
|
173 |
+
170,48.36266666666667,48.37381666666667,spk_0,Um
|
174 |
+
171,48.392833333333336,48.43248333333333,spk_0,"the document current approach for multiple gifts,"
|
175 |
+
172,48.43265,48.45381666666667,spk_0,I'm probably gonna need multiple
|
176 |
+
173,48.47865,48.4875,spk_0,my
|
177 |
+
174,48.49065,48.50748333333333,spk_0,Google doc crashed.
|
178 |
+
175,48.52966666666666,48.602,spk_0,Uh So the documents current approach for multiple dis implementations is that like
|
179 |
+
176,48.60215,48.664,spk_0,we don't have a lot of visibility on how things happen between Gidley.
|
180 |
+
177,48.66416666666667,48.70681666666667,spk_0,"Like we on the front end between Gidley and rails,"
|
181 |
+
178,48.713166666666666,48.738166666666665,spk_0,we don't have a lot of visibility on how things
|
182 |
+
179,48.73833333333333,48.77848333333333,spk_0,on source code happen uh on back end and stuff.
|
183 |
+
180,48.77865,48.84081666666667,spk_0,So it would be nice to get some sort of like Quick Sons shott
|
184 |
+
181,48.8465,48.90315,spk_0,of how the dips are being generated and handled today.
|
185 |
+
182,48.91033333333333,48.963166666666666,spk_0,Um I would keep it light ish
|
186 |
+
183,48.96515,49.02583333333333,spk_0,because this is just to understand where we are. It's not the outcome.
|
187 |
+
184,49.026,49.085816666666666,spk_0,"It's just a, a good effort of capturing what we have today."
|
188 |
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185,49.092333333333336,49.10681666666667,spk_0,"And for this,"
|
189 |
+
186,49.10698333333333,49.18248333333333,spk_0,what I would leverage is potentially grab all the dris and assign an issue to them.
|
190 |
+
187,49.2,49.22031666666667,spk_0,Why is my Google doc
|
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+
188,49.24166666666667,49.263333333333335,spk_0,do look just crashed.
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+
189,49.27015,49.27966666666666,spk_0,Um
|
193 |
+
190,49.29431666666667,49.313833333333335,spk_0,Which is why we should just get love.
|
194 |
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191,49.32781666666666,49.360166666666665,spk_0,So I'll take action on that. I'll create an issue
|
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192,49.37365,49.42015,spk_0,and I'll sign every Dr I uh there and
|
196 |
+
193,49.420316666666665,49.45966666666666,spk_0,potentially I'll ping you to Patrick because of giddily.
|
197 |
+
194,49.4675,49.56465,spk_0,"Um And the idea is just to share some notes or some diagrams of how,"
|
198 |
+
195,49.57031666666666,49.62331666666667,spk_0,how we're doing the DS today in your part of the organization.
|
199 |
+
196,49.631166666666665,49.6935,spk_0,"Uh If that makes sense, is that sensible for everybody or am I missing something."
|
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+
197,49.77715,49.822,spk_0,OK. Sometimes I'm afraid that I'm making
|
201 |
+
198,49.826166666666666,49.85681666666667,spk_0,no sense at all. It just too
|
202 |
+
199,49.86165,49.888666666666666,spk_0,respectful to call me out.
|
203 |
+
200,49.90433333333333,49.95183333333333,spk_0,Uh Let's assume it's not that uh right. I'll take that one
|
204 |
+
201,49.95365,49.97133333333333,spk_0,document.
|
205 |
+
202,49.97431666666667,50.0,spk_0,I think that is for me.
|
206 |
+
203,50.00248333333333,50.06816666666667,spk_0,And then we need one. We already have one for uh the define maintainability.
|
207 |
+
204,50.07315,50.13615,spk_0,Um This is then we need one to create issue for meaningful metrics
|
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+
205,50.14098333333333,50.18698333333333,spk_0,and then one to an issue to discuss order of priorities.
|
209 |
+
206,50.191316666666665,50.21683333333333,spk_0,Um I can take that one too
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210 |
+
207,50.22448333333333,50.2675,spk_0,"so please take them on, um"
|
211 |
+
208,50.2755,50.32731666666667,spk_0,assign yourself here like we're doing like me and Thomas.
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212 |
+
209,50.33916666666666,50.36915,spk_0,Uh And then we know exactly who's going to take
|
213 |
+
210,50.36931666666667,50.41833333333334,spk_0,them and then broadcast them on the Slack channel.
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214 |
+
211,50.4185,50.4645,spk_0,I think that's the best way at the moment to
|
215 |
+
212,50.46465,50.50765,spk_0,get everybody that it's involved or wants to be involved
|
216 |
+
213,50.51148333333333,50.5225,spk_0,aware.
|
217 |
+
214,50.53383333333333,50.546,spk_0,Um
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218 |
+
215,50.5555,50.59548333333333,spk_0,"That's it. Anybody has any other questions before we go,"
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219 |
+
216,50.6385,50.68033333333333,spk_0,we'll talk about the thing called scheduling
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220 |
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217,50.6805,50.72298333333333,spk_0,"on Slack or something because like it's,"
|
221 |
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218,50.73165,50.74881666666667,spk_0,we don't have any time now.
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222 |
+
219,50.756816666666666,50.803983333333335,spk_2,"Do we have uh what, what's the, is there a specific Slack show"
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223 |
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220,50.80631666666667,50.832816666666666,spk_2,for this? Am I in it? I don't know.
|
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221,50.84216666666666,50.85083333333333,spk_2,Uh
|
225 |
+
222,50.857816666666665,50.89465,spk_0,"F New Ds, right. Phil."
|
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+
223,50.93383333333333,50.9375,spk_1,Yep.
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224,50.967333333333336,51.011316666666666,spk_0,"-- Please join. If you're not there.
|
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+
-- Look at that, I'm not a member."
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225,51.01148333333333,51.02865,spk_2,#NAME?
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226,51.03548333333333,51.056,spk_0,"You are now. All right,"
|
231 |
+
227,51.075,51.09166666666667,spk_0,thanks everybody.
|
232 |
+
228,51.09183333333333,51.16148333333334,spk_0,"There's gonna be a lot of discovery and a lot of crazy chaos through here, but I think"
|
233 |
+
229,51.1635,51.20066666666666,spk_0,it's great that we're having this conversation that we see so
|
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+
230,51.200833333333335,51.264,spk_0,many different scopes represented so really appreciative all of your time.
|
235 |
+
231,51.27398333333333,51.33565,spk_0,And if you by any chance uh need um
|
236 |
+
232,51.335816666666666,51.38016666666667,spk_0,"some help prioritizing work to this with your managers,"
|
237 |
+
233,51.38033333333333,51.43131666666667,spk_0,feel free to reach out to me and I can try to put in a good word.
|
238 |
+
234,51.459,51.46615,spk_0,OK.
|
239 |
+
235,51.47298333333333,51.48198333333333,spk_0,That's it.
|
240 |
+
236,51.48383333333334,51.55331666666667,spk_0,We'll uh discuss the synchronously and we see you on the ether or something.
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241 |
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237,51.58648333333333,51.60748333333333,spk_0,Bye. Have a good week.
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1 |
+
,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
|
2 |
+
0,0.0165,0.1046666666666666,spk_0,And we're live. Welcome to the Weekly Sync for the New Diffs
|
3 |
+
1,0.1191666666666666,0.1391666666666666,spk_0,Architecture workflow
|
4 |
+
2,0.1425,0.1541666666666666,spk_0,effort.
|
5 |
+
3,0.1683333333333333,0.1813333333333333,spk_0,Um
|
6 |
+
4,0.1966666666666666,0.275,spk_0,I added some notes to the agenda from things that happened from last week's call.
|
7 |
+
5,0.2804833333333333,0.2963333333333333,spk_0,Um
|
8 |
+
6,0.3086666666666666,0.3528333333333334,spk_0,"Inadvertently, we didn't"
|
9 |
+
7,0.357,0.3688166666666667,spk_0,pick
|
10 |
+
8,0.38015,0.4538166666666666,spk_0,uh someone to take care of the actual documentation
|
11 |
+
9,0.457,0.47315,spk_0,"of the blueprint,"
|
12 |
+
10,0.484,0.49265,spk_0,"you know,"
|
13 |
+
11,0.4928166666666666,0.5336666666666667,spk_0,the core of it and listing it on the
|
14 |
+
12,0.5338166666666667,0.58615,spk_0,published blueprints saying that it's being worked on.
|
15 |
+
13,0.5863333333333334,0.6286666666666666,spk_0,What's the topic? Who's the authors and all that stuff?
|
16 |
+
14,0.63415,0.6795000000000001,spk_0,Um So it would be nice to get that started even though we don't
|
17 |
+
15,0.6796500000000001,0.7543166666666666,spk_0,have a lot of stuff in there just having a placeholder that will then hold
|
18 |
+
16,0.764,0.789,spk_0,the conclusions and the
|
19 |
+
17,0.79365,0.8223333333333334,spk_0,documents that will be producing.
|
20 |
+
18,0.8298333333333333,0.843,spk_0,Um
|
21 |
+
19,0.8453333333333333,0.8504833333333334,spk_0,Nice. It
|
22 |
+
20,0.8524999999999999,0.8931666666666668,spk_0,would be nice to get that started. At least that's my understanding.
|
23 |
+
21,0.8933166666666666,0.9631666666666666,spk_0,"That would be nice to get that started early in the process so that we can, you know,"
|
24 |
+
22,0.96365,1.0068166666666667,spk_0,make it evolve and everybody knows where to add stuff.
|
25 |
+
23,1.0183166666666668,1.057316666666667,spk_0,Does that make sense or is that blocked by anything
|
26 |
+
24,1.0818333333333334,1.1034833333333334,spk_0,that we currently have in? Fight
|
27 |
+
25,1.2221666666666666,1.2328333333333332,spk_1,"-- Make
|
28 |
+
-- it make sense?"
|
29 |
+
26,1.2591666666666668,1.2935,spk_0,Bill? I didn't hear you. I only heard Thomas.
|
30 |
+
27,1.3118166666666666,1.3353333333333333,spk_2,"Yeah, I think we can just make it"
|
31 |
+
28,1.368,1.374,spk_2,right.
|
32 |
+
29,1.377,1.3903166666666666,spk_2,"-- You want
|
33 |
+
-- to, you"
|
34 |
+
30,1.3936666666666666,1.418316666666667,spk_0,can take it. All right. Awesome.
|
35 |
+
31,1.43915,1.4588166666666669,spk_0,And he volunteered.
|
36 |
+
32,1.4713166666666666,1.4863333333333333,spk_0,Great.
|
37 |
+
33,1.50465,1.505,spk_0,Uh
|
38 |
+
34,1.5068333333333332,1.543,spk_0,"And then we have uh, some read only points."
|
39 |
+
35,1.54315,1.5978333333333334,spk_0,"Uh These are just for you to be aware of, to participate as synchronously."
|
40 |
+
36,1.597983333333333,1.625,spk_0,We don't have to cover them here on the call.
|
41 |
+
37,1.6408166666666666,1.6485,spk_0,Ok.
|
42 |
+
38,1.7194833333333333,1.7286666666666668,spk_0,All right.
|
43 |
+
39,1.7305,1.7585,spk_0,Which brings us to
|
44 |
+
40,1.7678166666666666,1.86115,spk_0,"uh the time. So, uh we had a rough discussion on Slack since last call."
|
45 |
+
41,1.865983333333333,1.89915,spk_0,"Um And it seemed like,"
|
46 |
+
42,1.9034833333333332,1.9458333333333333,spk_0,"yeah, it would be pretty impossible to um"
|
47 |
+
43,1.95,1.9751666666666663,spk_0,accommodate all time zones.
|
48 |
+
44,1.981666666666667,1.99815,spk_0,Um
|
49 |
+
45,2.000166666666667,2.0781666666666667,spk_0,"So we were thinking about it and we were thinking about having a two times per week,"
|
50 |
+
46,2.078483333333333,2.1145,spk_0,alternating time slots.
|
51 |
+
47,2.11465,2.1896666666666667,spk_0,"And the idea here is that we have one on a Tuesday, one on a Thursday."
|
52 |
+
48,2.1898166666666667,2.226983333333333,spk_0,"And if eventually some tasks come out of Tuesday,"
|
53 |
+
49,2.2271666666666667,2.2891666666666666,spk_0,they could be presented the outcomes on a Thursday or vice versa.
|
54 |
+
50,2.289333333333333,2.31115,spk_0,"Something comes out on a Thursday,"
|
55 |
+
51,2.3113166666666665,2.3706666666666667,spk_0,we might be able to present it on a Tuesday and keep the ball rolling much faster
|
56 |
+
52,2.37415,2.4348166666666664,spk_0,"because even though we don't have a deadline here in the document,"
|
57 |
+
53,2.4423166666666667,2.473316666666667,spk_0,our kind of goal was to have something
|
58 |
+
54,2.478666666666667,2.5396666666666667,spk_0,"by the end of the quarter, which could be challenging, but"
|
59 |
+
55,2.545983333333333,2.59315,spk_0,uh we wanna move fast on this effort. So we don't
|
60 |
+
56,2.5976666666666666,2.66965,spk_0,linger too much on the documentation side of things for too long.
|
61 |
+
57,2.669833333333333,2.69965,spk_0,So the idea was these two
|
62 |
+
58,2.71215,2.728166666666666,spk_0,things.
|
63 |
+
59,2.7346666666666666,2.7629833333333336,spk_0,Uh and Patrick had a question here.
|
64 |
+
60,2.796316666666667,2.8326666666666664,spk_1,"Uh Yes, is that I was wondering like"
|
65 |
+
61,2.84815,2.8598166666666667,spk_1,it too
|
66 |
+
62,2.86265,2.8798166666666667,spk_1,hit too early for him
|
67 |
+
63,2.8954833333333334,2.9098166666666665,spk_1,and too late for.
|
68 |
+
64,2.916316666666667,2.9286666666666665,spk_1,So it's like
|
69 |
+
65,2.9345,2.94815,spk_1,it only for a a
|
70 |
+
66,3.003316666666666,3.025,spk_1,but that's what he was thinking
|
71 |
+
67,3.0425,3.0733166666666665,spk_0,that we were thinking and we're thinking about the
|
72 |
+
68,3.0735,3.108983333333333,spk_0,ones that are excluded on the other one.
|
73 |
+
69,3.13065,3.1886666666666668,spk_0,I didn't make a point here at the bottom that the times aren't final
|
74 |
+
70,3.1906666666666665,3.2783166666666665,spk_0,"so we can bring them forward or backwards or later or earlier depending on,"
|
75 |
+
71,3.2855,3.3323333333333336,spk_0,"on specific cases because for example, um,"
|
76 |
+
72,3.332483333333333,3.400333333333333,spk_0,"the one on Tuesday would be if I'm not mistaken, 630"
|
77 |
+
73,3.4035,3.424333333333333,spk_0,for Pacific time.
|
78 |
+
74,3.431983333333333,3.443,spk_0,Um
|
79 |
+
75,3.4448333333333334,3.5043166666666665,spk_0,"in case of carry, uh I think Thomas would be like 730 or something"
|
80 |
+
76,3.51265,3.5288166666666667,spk_0,um
|
81 |
+
77,3.5319833333333333,3.571483333333333,spk_0,with the current times of the daylight savings.
|
82 |
+
78,3.581,3.633333333333333,spk_0,So it feels like it's still a bit stretched at that point.
|
83 |
+
79,3.633483333333333,3.6688333333333336,spk_0,"And the one on Thursday would,"
|
84 |
+
80,3.668983333333333,3.7201666666666666,spk_0,I don't think they would be able to make it uh in the pacific time.
|
85 |
+
81,3.7218166666666663,3.776666666666667,spk_0,"So, yeah, time zone, time zones are hard folks."
|
86 |
+
82,3.776833333333333,3.862,spk_0,"Um So I'm pleased if you have any feedback. Uh Like for example, Patrick,"
|
87 |
+
83,3.868833333333333,3.890816666666667,spk_0,if you think that we make more.
|
88 |
+
84,3.891,3.932833333333333,spk_0,"So for example, with having these two calls,"
|
89 |
+
85,3.933983333333333,3.997,spk_0,"it wouldn't be necessarily expectable that you would attend the Tuesday one,"
|
90 |
+
86,3.9971666666666663,4.030833333333334,spk_0,but you could be participating in the synchronously
|
91 |
+
87,4.031,4.06865,spk_0,"by presenting some points and stuff for discussion,"
|
92 |
+
88,4.070333333333333,4.094833333333334,spk_0,"watching the recording,"
|
93 |
+
89,4.099333333333333,4.140316666666667,spk_0,"then eventually rediscussing that on a Thursday,"
|
94 |
+
90,4.140483333333333,4.2011666666666665,spk_0,"if you need to uh could be beneficial the whole point of it,"
|
95 |
+
91,4.205,4.245166666666667,spk_0,"even though you might not be able to attend both,"
|
96 |
+
92,4.2475,4.2888166666666665,spk_0,you should at least watch the recording of the other one which
|
97 |
+
93,4.288983333333333,4.345,spk_0,will use the streaming methodology to make sure that it's always available
|
98 |
+
94,4.349466666666666,4.390633333333334,spk_0,um As soon as the call finishes.
|
99 |
+
95,4.3993166666666665,4.4183,spk_0,"So,"
|
100 |
+
96,4.42065,4.48365,spk_0,"yeah, what do you think? Should we adjust the times here? Do you have a,"
|
101 |
+
97,4.49615,4.523816666666667,spk_0,a specific suggestion?
|
102 |
+
98,4.55515,4.59465,spk_1,"Yeah, I'm just worried that it's going to join the thirsty."
|
103 |
+
99,4.629333333333333,4.65515,spk_0,You just joined the Thursday one.
|
104 |
+
100,4.65965,4.69315,spk_0,"-- I
|
105 |
+
-- mean, who, who would join the Thursday one? It"
|
106 |
+
101,4.69615,4.698316666666667,spk_1,just
|
107 |
+
102,4.71715,4.73215,spk_1,me or
|
108 |
+
103,4.739833333333333,4.8116666666666665,spk_0,"so that's a good question. We have some folks. So we, I know we have David"
|
109 |
+
104,4.82,4.841666666666667,spk_0,in Australia.
|
110 |
+
105,4.8465,4.85915,spk_0,Um
|
111 |
+
106,4.866483333333333,4.890666666666666,spk_0,We have some folks in source
|
112 |
+
107,4.898,4.906333333333333,spk_0,"code,"
|
113 |
+
108,4.908816666666667,4.982,spk_0,"I think also in Australia, I'm not sure if they're developers though."
|
114 |
+
109,4.9965,5.002483333333333,spk_3,"Uh again,"
|
115 |
+
110,5.008816666666666,5.052833333333333,spk_3,"source code, it's Ash in Australia,"
|
116 |
+
111,5.066833333333333,5.095833333333333,spk_0,right? Ash Mackenzie. That's great.
|
117 |
+
112,5.1325,5.169833333333333,spk_0,"Um So yeah, we do have some folks."
|
118 |
+
113,5.174316666666667,5.274666666666667,spk_0,"The thing is um if I, if I remember correctly, like four AMI would not be able to"
|
119 |
+
114,5.276483333333333,5.342833333333333,spk_0,attend per se or like 5:05 a.m. wouldn't be able to attend.
|
120 |
+
115,5.349666666666667,5.367333333333334,spk_0,Um
|
121 |
+
116,5.374816666666667,5.411316666666667,spk_0,But the whole point of these calls is that
|
122 |
+
117,5.414316666666667,5.45715,spk_0,they would be pretty much driven as synchronous as well.
|
123 |
+
118,5.457333333333334,5.4995,spk_0,"So if I have something out putting from Tuesday,"
|
124 |
+
119,5.502483333333333,5.557333333333333,spk_0,you can add it on the Thursday to be like awareness for everybody
|
125 |
+
120,5.5575,5.614166666666667,spk_0,because the whole point is that everybody would still follow both calls.
|
126 |
+
121,5.614316666666666,5.650816666666667,spk_0,"You don't have to be there, but you still follow"
|
127 |
+
122,5.660316666666667,5.728166666666667,spk_0,the agendas of both calls because it would be the same agenda essentially. Um
|
128 |
+
123,5.7495,5.807,spk_0,"So yeah, I don't know my old, the other theory that I have is"
|
129 |
+
124,5.820333333333333,5.892483333333333,spk_0,by starting as an effort to cover the most time zones possible.
|
130 |
+
125,5.9,5.971316666666667,spk_0,We start off with that for a couple of weeks and then we'll see if we notice that
|
131 |
+
126,5.976166666666667,6.011816666666666,spk_0,"David and Ash for some reason,"
|
132 |
+
127,6.012,6.0616666666666665,spk_0,are busy with some other stuff or they don't know if they can't participate.
|
133 |
+
128,6.069,6.089316666666667,spk_0,There's no problem with that.
|
134 |
+
129,6.098316666666666,6.13065,spk_0,"But if the calls are empty all the time,"
|
135 |
+
130,6.130833333333333,6.1786666666666665,spk_0,"we might as well just try to unify it again into one,"
|
136 |
+
131,6.178833333333333,6.209816666666667,spk_0,but at least giving an effort of giving it a
|
137 |
+
132,6.22,6.290666666666667,spk_0,inclusive schedule would be nice to start off with.
|
138 |
+
133,6.301816666666666,6.360666666666667,spk_0,"Uh But again, the specific times we can adjust them. So,"
|
139 |
+
134,6.377166666666667,6.391983333333333,spk_0,um
|
140 |
+
135,6.40765,6.437983333333333,spk_0,"unless anybody has any objections,"
|
141 |
+
136,6.438166666666667,6.49415,spk_0,"we would go forward with the plan of having two calls,"
|
142 |
+
137,6.500166666666667,6.552333333333333,spk_0,but the specific times still open for discussion and we
|
143 |
+
138,6.552483333333333,6.599316666666667,spk_0,can tweak them before the next iteration of those calls.
|
144 |
+
139,6.616666666666667,6.6370000000000005,spk_0,Anybody has any objections.
|
145 |
+
140,6.721316666666667,6.738316666666667,spk_0,I'll take that as enough.
|
146 |
+
141,6.75715,6.766483333333333,spk_0,Great.
|
147 |
+
142,6.775483333333334,6.799166666666666,spk_0,So I'll uh
|
148 |
+
143,6.811166666666667,6.829483333333333,spk_0,I'll have the events
|
149 |
+
144,6.8705,6.90765,spk_0,"or basically, basically, I'll just update the events"
|
150 |
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145,6.913983333333333,6.952333333333334,spk_0,slash calendar to reflect this.
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146,6.9575,6.975983333333334,spk_0,"And uh yeah,"
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147,6.983333333333333,7.02065,spk_0,that's all for that. Thank you for
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148,7.033,7.071316666666666,spk_0,uh indulging next point.
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149,7.083,7.096816666666666,spk_0,Um
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150,7.111666666666666,7.1626666666666665,spk_0,Last week we started discussing about documenting the current implementation of
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151,7.164483333333333,7.179833333333334,spk_0,DS across Git lab
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152,7.191983333333333,7.233,spk_0,and Patrick just sort of like a status.
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153,7.238483333333333,7.260666666666666,spk_0,You have uh an update here.
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154,7.28315,7.33365,spk_0,"-- Uh Yes.
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-- Uh So we started documenting"
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155,7.339483333333333,7.35515,spk_1,flow
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156,7.363666666666667,7.384316666666667,spk_1,of some endpoints
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157,7.386666666666667,7.403166666666666,spk_1,used by the Merch
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158,7.405333333333333,7.414983333333334,spk_1,"Press page,"
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+
159,7.424,7.428983333333333,spk_1,"the gift,"
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160,7.444,7.447,spk_1,the
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161,7.45,7.450816666666666,spk_1,JSON
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162,7.463316666666667,7.481333333333334,spk_1,"Endpoint and the DC,"
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163,7.485816666666667,7.504483333333333,spk_1,which is used for the new merch
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+
164,7.5065,7.516833333333333,spk_1,press page.
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165,7.53365,7.571316666666666,spk_1,So I open an Mr to add some
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166,7.579983333333333,7.600666666666667,spk_1,basic flow charts
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167,7.605483333333334,7.615666666666667,spk_1,and
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168,7.6195,7.624,spk_1,they will be
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+
169,7.64365,7.646,spk_1,C
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176 |
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170,7.649816666666666,7.664983333333334,spk_1,diagrams. So
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171,7.691483333333333,7.703166666666666,spk_1,they are now
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178 |
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172,7.7085,7.712316666666666,spk_1,not
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+
173,7.714983333333333,7.720499999999999,spk_1,all of them.
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180 |
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174,7.727666666666667,7.764483333333334,spk_1,Some of the diagrams can be found in the
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181 |
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175,7.786,7.815483333333333,spk_1,documentation or developer talk.
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176,7.817983333333333,7.830333333333334,spk_1,So
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177,7.8325,7.838316666666667,spk_1,"yeah,"
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184 |
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178,7.845499999999999,7.864833333333333,spk_1,you be in there but the
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185 |
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179,7.86865,7.88065,spk_1,C diagrams are
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186 |
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180,7.883333333333333,7.885316666666666,spk_1,good
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187 |
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181,7.898166666666667,7.907833333333333,spk_1,too small.
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182,7.937983333333333,7.948316666666667,spk_1,So I need to
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+
183,7.953333333333333,7.953833333333334,spk_1,name
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+
184,7.982833333333334,7.997149999999999,spk_1,on your browser.
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191 |
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185,8.011816666666666,8.01715,spk_1,Bye
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192 |
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186,8.053333333333333,8.07015,spk_0,but they're there.
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193 |
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187,8.074166666666667,8.086666666666666,spk_0,"-- So
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+
-- yeah,"
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195 |
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188,8.113816666666667,8.129983333333334,spk_1,it's feel if it
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196 |
+
189,8.13165,8.13415,spk_1,with them.
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197 |
+
190,8.157333333333334,8.190666666666667,spk_0,"Yeah, I think I know this is what you're talking about, right?"
|
198 |
+
191,8.190833333333334,8.238983333333334,spk_0,So this is the first one for dispatch.
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199 |
+
192,8.2485,8.264983333333333,spk_0,"Um Do you wanna,"
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200 |
+
193,8.265166666666667,8.314316666666667,spk_0,do you wanna talk it through while we're here or we could keep the recording?
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201 |
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194,8.356833333333334,8.389166666666666,spk_1,Uh I think it's better to like
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202 |
+
195,8.398166666666667,8.4,spk_1,put it
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203 |
+
196,8.401983333333334,8.404333333333334,spk_1,"on your,"
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204 |
+
197,8.40965,8.475483333333333,spk_1,"-- on your own time.
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205 |
+
-- Ok. Just let them just, just people dive in. Ok? Ok."
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206 |
+
198,8.4835,8.548483333333333,spk_0,So this is dispatch and then the ones you're talking about is this particular
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207 |
+
199,8.557333333333334,8.577166666666667,spk_0,uh thing.
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208 |
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200,8.589833333333333,8.6375,spk_0,"Um This is the viewing, the viewing head, latest"
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209 |
+
201,8.646166666666666,8.6555,spk_0,version
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210 |
+
202,8.667316666666666,8.688316666666667,spk_0,or in Mars.
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211 |
+
203,8.703816666666667,8.7808,spk_0,It'd be interesting to compare this with um the ones for the repository.
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212 |
+
204,8.786316666666666,8.81015,spk_0,I'm guessing they're different.
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213 |
+
205,8.842483333333334,8.888833333333332,spk_0,"Uh At least it's a deal, a certain part."
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214 |
+
206,8.899816666666666,8.920833333333333,spk_1,There are some differences that
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215 |
+
207,8.92765,8.993316666666667,spk_1,"some will read from the database, some read from Italy."
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216 |
+
208,9.01615,9.025816666666667,spk_1,Mhm.
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217 |
+
209,9.039666666666667,9.044316666666669,spk_1,Yeah.
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218 |
+
210,9.071166666666668,9.120166666666666,spk_0,"Yeah, I was going to try to make it larger, but it's tricky."
|
219 |
+
211,9.148483333333331,9.218833333333333,spk_0,"You should be able to open the like um a mermaid on a new window,"
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220 |
+
212,9.241833333333334,9.250816666666667,spk_0,right?
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221 |
+
213,9.28515,9.296166666666666,spk_0,I cheat.
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222 |
+
214,9.324816666666669,9.347,spk_1,"Yeah, I think I'm not sure"
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223 |
+
215,9.368166666666667,9.423483333333332,spk_0,"No, would you get you enlarge the size? Ok. I think I found it."
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224 |
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216,9.450983333333332,9.459316666666666,spk_0,Mhm.
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225 |
+
217,9.478333333333332,9.491833333333334,spk_0,Um
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226 |
+
218,9.496,9.505983333333331,spk_0,OK.
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227 |
+
219,9.514833333333334,9.533833333333334,spk_0,I won't be
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228 |
+
220,9.53815,9.5785,spk_0,sharing the screen anymore but um
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229 |
+
221,9.58615,9.601983333333331,spk_0,I broke the page
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230 |
+
222,9.626983333333332,9.686666666666667,spk_0,and so the the status is that we have that already.
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231 |
+
223,9.732816666666666,9.7845,spk_0,So you still have all the M Rs in review
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232 |
+
224,9.7875,9.801166666666669,spk_0,um
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233 |
+
225,9.829983333333333,9.8775,spk_0,"Igor from your side. Is this something that we could also,"
|
234 |
+
226,9.882333333333332,9.916483333333334,spk_0,is it also achievable from the repository
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235 |
+
227,9.945,9.977816666666667,spk_0,to have this sort of um
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236 |
+
228,9.981983333333334,9.997816666666669,spk_0,flow charts?
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237 |
+
229,10.029816666666669,10.066483333333334,spk_3,"-- Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be done. It's gonna
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238 |
+
-- be done."
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239 |
+
230,10.066666666666666,10.11215,spk_0,"I know you, I know you're trying to squint to kind of see what's in there."
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240 |
+
231,10.117833333333332,10.124166666666667,spk_0,But uh
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241 |
+
232,10.148483333333331,10.15915,spk_0,it would be nice
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242 |
+
233,10.164316666666666,10.21115,spk_0,because I think one of the only one interesting exercise would
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243 |
+
234,10.211316666666669,10.270833333333334,spk_0,be to look at those flows and just try to see
|
244 |
+
235,10.278333333333332,10.361316666666667,spk_0,"um eventually things that one is doing that the other isn't and try to see what,"
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245 |
+
236,10.3615,10.37865,spk_0,what we could
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246 |
+
237,10.380666666666666,10.403333333333332,spk_0,potentially unify
|
247 |
+
238,10.405666666666669,10.419316666666669,spk_0,um
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248 |
+
239,10.426166666666669,10.457333333333333,spk_0,from the real side of things.
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249 |
+
240,10.469316666666666,10.528983333333333,spk_3,"Uh That makes sense to me and yeah, I'll have a look,"
|
250 |
+
241,10.529166666666669,10.56965,spk_3,I didn't have a chance to do it the previous week.
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251 |
+
242,10.569833333333332,10.6355,spk_3,"But uh yeah, until the next call, uh we can discuss to"
|
252 |
+
243,10.648816666666669,10.670483333333332,spk_3,"-- feel
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253 |
+
-- free to raise it as shaw"
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254 |
+
244,10.673333333333334,10.69565,spk_0,and to delegate to someone else.
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255 |
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245,10.695833333333333,10.702983333333334,spk_0,"If you're,"
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256 |
+
246,10.703166666666666,10.732333333333331,spk_0,if you're busy with something like urgent
|
257 |
+
247,10.7325,10.758983333333331,spk_0,or something like there's probably a lot of
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258 |
+
248,10.75915,10.822333333333331,spk_0,people in the team that could help you in just drafting the diagrams themselves.
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259 |
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249,10.83415,10.844483333333333,spk_3,Makes sense.
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260 |
+
250,10.862316666666668,10.870316666666668,spk_0,Cool.
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261 |
+
251,10.885666666666667,10.915666666666668,spk_0,"Um Patrick,"
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262 |
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252,10.920316666666666,10.968316666666666,spk_0,"I see the the other Patrick is also here,"
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263 |
+
253,10.972,11.01865,spk_0,is this already taking into account the Gidley side of things?
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264 |
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254,11.080333333333334,11.090483333333331,spk_1,"It's, that's what I mean."
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265 |
+
255,11.126983333333332,11.158833333333334,spk_0,Yes. So the Patrick on the call
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266 |
+
256,11.163833333333333,11.221816666666667,spk_0,is I see that there was the other Patrick on the uh
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267 |
+
257,11.222,11.277166666666666,spk_0,Mr that you linked to or the issue that you linked to.
|
268 |
+
258,11.277983333333331,11.298166666666669,spk_0,He's already chatting
|
269 |
+
259,11.300333333333333,11.318316666666666,spk_0,someone there.
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270 |
+
260,11.32465,11.370833333333334,spk_0,My question is whether these things that have been published
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271 |
+
261,11.371,11.43215,spk_0,already account for Galley or the giddily is a separate um
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272 |
+
262,11.448166666666667,11.485833333333334,spk_1,"effort. Well, the, the dead girls mentioned"
|
273 |
+
263,11.491483333333331,11.491833333333334,spk_1,it
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274 |
+
264,11.514316666666666,11.52365,spk_1,invokes
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275 |
+
265,11.525816666666667,11.528166666666667,spk_1,"Italy,"
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276 |
+
266,11.536983333333334,11.537316666666667,spk_1,the
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277 |
+
267,11.545,11.549333333333331,spk_1,because of
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278 |
+
268,11.551816666666667,11.598,spk_1,"Italy just shows the, the RB that we call"
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279 |
+
269,11.633833333333332,11.640316666666669,spk_1,"and that's,"
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280 |
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270,11.642483333333333,11.647483333333334,spk_1,that's it.
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281 |
+
271,11.653166666666667,11.685316666666669,spk_0,I see. Gidley client Tiff Stitcher.
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282 |
+
272,11.703816666666668,11.709316666666666,spk_1,Yeah.
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283 |
+
273,11.730666666666666,11.73815,spk_1,"Is a fine,"
|
284 |
+
274,11.740666666666666,11.753333333333334,spk_1,fine commit
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285 |
+
275,11.759983333333333,11.791833333333331,spk_1,R PC. This commits R PC.
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286 |
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276,11.836983333333333,11.84565,spk_0,Got it.
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287 |
+
277,11.863833333333334,11.872816666666669,spk_0,Ok.
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288 |
+
278,11.909316666666667,11.923483333333332,spk_0,Mm.
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289 |
+
279,11.938833333333331,11.951983333333333,spk_0,It would be interesting.
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290 |
+
280,11.998166666666666,12.01615,spk_0,Definitely interesting.
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291 |
+
281,12.021,12.030816666666666,spk_0,Um
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292 |
+
282,12.046333333333331,12.047483333333334,spk_0,mhm.
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293 |
+
283,12.074483333333331,12.135666666666667,spk_0,I think at a certain point we're gonna need to have a specific call to discuss
|
294 |
+
284,12.138483333333332,12.209316666666666,spk_0,"these, but until we have the charts from SARS"
|
295 |
+
285,12.2125,12.218833333333333,spk_0,"code,"
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296 |
+
286,12.240666666666666,12.257983333333334,spk_0,at least that
|
297 |
+
287,12.261316666666668,12.289316666666666,spk_0,you'll be premature. So
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298 |
+
288,12.308333333333334,12.325333333333331,spk_0,let's have that happen.
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299 |
+
289,12.327983333333334,12.364,spk_0,"And then once we have it, we can have a call just,"
|
300 |
+
290,12.36415,12.39365,spk_0,or we can have a topic on one of the calls
|
301 |
+
291,12.393833333333331,12.452816666666669,spk_0,to dissect these things and go together because I feel like
|
302 |
+
292,12.467,12.488666666666669,spk_0,it'd be interesting to get
|
303 |
+
293,12.498,12.513316666666666,spk_0,like a sort of a demo.
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304 |
+
294,12.513483333333332,12.556816666666666,spk_0,"Be we should all read them like you suggested,"
|
305 |
+
295,12.556983333333331,12.585983333333331,spk_0,"like you should all make sure that we understand them,"
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306 |
+
296,12.59965,12.65265,spk_0,"but there's gonna be things that are gonna be uh interesting to go and,"
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307 |
+
297,12.652816666666666,12.662316666666667,spk_0,and analyze them.
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308 |
+
298,12.6625,12.674,spk_0,Together
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309 |
+
299,12.677983333333334,12.719,spk_0,um and have some questions across the board.
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310 |
+
300,12.745166666666666,12.752983333333331,spk_0,OK.
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311 |
+
301,12.753166666666669,12.7625,spk_0,"So to do,"
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312 |
+
302,12.762666666666666,12.8305,spk_0,there is just to complete the ones in source code uh from the front end side fill.
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313 |
+
303,12.830816666666667,12.84265,spk_0,Uh
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314 |
+
304,12.90265,12.936833333333333,spk_0,Is there um I know that you ha
|
315 |
+
305,12.94015,12.96765,spk_0,you linked to the
|
316 |
+
306,12.992166666666666,13.027816666666666,spk_0,sketch that you did at a certain point
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317 |
+
307,13.031816666666666,13.04565,spk_0,"-- in time.
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318 |
+
-- Yeah,"
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319 |
+
308,13.067,13.06865,spk_1,we got
|
320 |
+
309,13.07065,13.071166666666668,spk_1,that
|
321 |
+
310,13.074816666666669,13.075333333333331,spk_1,one
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322 |
+
311,13.07865,13.123333333333331,spk_1,for the components that use. I just need to go through
|
323 |
+
312,13.137316666666669,13.1615,spk_2,what actually happens when we get
|
324 |
+
313,13.175333333333333,13.217483333333334,spk_2,the response from the dispatch stuff because we do a lot of
|
325 |
+
314,13.219833333333334,13.227166666666667,spk_2,content.
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326 |
+
315,13.253166666666669,13.267,spk_2,So I need to go for that
|
327 |
+
316,13.290833333333332,13.324,spk_2,right to all the extra stuff that we do on top of it.
|
328 |
+
317,13.339833333333331,13.348166666666666,spk_1,OK.
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329 |
+
318,13.3855,13.394483333333334,spk_0,All right.
|
330 |
+
319,13.40065,13.438483333333334,spk_0,And we need to account for um
|
331 |
+
320,13.444166666666666,13.501166666666666,spk_0,Does it all? I can't remember if that already accounted for the
|
332 |
+
321,13.519833333333333,13.534833333333331,spk_0,file by file
|
333 |
+
322,13.607333333333331,13.621,spk_0,of A F mode
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334 |
+
323,13.637316666666669,13.660833333333333,spk_2,"-- if well accounted
|
335 |
+
-- for it."
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336 |
+
324,13.67065,13.724333333333334,spk_0,"If the chart that we already have created, if it covered"
|
337 |
+
325,13.739833333333332,13.756816666666667,spk_0,the logic
|
338 |
+
326,13.777816666666666,13.813666666666666,spk_0,"we have in the case a file by file,"
|
339 |
+
327,13.81965,13.833983333333334,spk_0,I don't think so.
|
340 |
+
328,13.846483333333332,13.931666666666668,spk_0,"OK. We could keep uh we could give that to Thomas to cover that part of the, the flow."
|
341 |
+
329,13.940483333333331,13.952166666666669,spk_0,Um
|
342 |
+
330,13.961666666666666,14.023,spk_0,But is the target to also have a mermaid chart created out of that
|
343 |
+
331,14.0275,14.033983333333332,spk_0,ex college
|
344 |
+
332,14.039316666666666,14.060316666666669,spk_0,flow chart?
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345 |
+
333,14.076816666666666,14.148816666666669,spk_2,I think Amy wanted me to make one but like I thought like me mermaid. So
|
346 |
+
334,14.157333333333334,14.173166666666669,spk_2,didn't fancy me.
|
347 |
+
335,14.18915,14.196,spk_2,"I can,"
|
348 |
+
336,14.2015,14.208983333333334,spk_2,"I,"
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349 |
+
337,14.222483333333331,14.249,spk_4,I don't love mermaid but like dude.
|
350 |
+
338,14.285666666666666,14.349483333333334,spk_0,"All right, we can give you then so we can give you the task to kind of convert the, the,"
|
351 |
+
339,14.34965,14.38815,spk_0,"the, the chart that, that Phil created"
|
352 |
+
340,14.399816666666666,14.448166666666667,spk_0,um and then collaborate through there to get the front end
|
353 |
+
341,14.448333333333334,14.484666666666667,spk_0,because I feel like it's gonna be a huge part of
|
354 |
+
342,14.488316666666666,14.54015,spk_0,looking at the whole logic of front end as well.
|
355 |
+
343,14.540316666666667,14.594,spk_0,"This is more for us on the front end side of things, but"
|
356 |
+
344,14.603816666666669,14.6275,spk_0,for Jack's benefit
|
357 |
+
345,14.631666666666666,14.7075,spk_0,"uh and for ours as well, it will be useful to get a glimpse of"
|
358 |
+
346,14.711833333333333,14.762666666666666,spk_0,what is all the logic we have and which ones
|
359 |
+
347,14.762833333333331,14.80815,spk_0,are specific to merger quests and which ones aren't?
|
360 |
+
348,14.815,14.828816666666668,spk_0,Um
|
361 |
+
349,14.833666666666666,14.878166666666669,spk_0,"from your side? Jack, I think right now,"
|
362 |
+
350,14.880333333333333,14.897483333333334,spk_0,the logic
|
363 |
+
351,14.9005,14.955333333333334,spk_0,is pretty um just a hammel based
|
364 |
+
352,14.959666666666667,14.984316666666668,spk_0,"rendering the blog viewers,"
|
365 |
+
353,14.9845,15.050166666666666,spk_0,but it could be useful to still have a sort of a short summary of what we do right now
|
366 |
+
354,15.056816666666666,15.075333333333331,spk_0,um
|
367 |
+
355,15.090483333333331,15.141316666666668,spk_0,because we don't want to miss anything that might be present there.
|
368 |
+
356,15.14665,15.2075,spk_0,"Um So it could be useful to have something, something on your side as well. Ok."
|
369 |
+
357,15.224483333333334,15.24,spk_0,Yeah. Sure.
|
370 |
+
358,15.2565,15.26765,spk_0,Awesome.
|
371 |
+
359,15.26965,15.33515,spk_0,"And if you could aim to have something ready by next week, maybe not Thursday,"
|
372 |
+
360,15.344316666666666,15.383833333333332,spk_0,"the next call, but maybe next Tuesday"
|
373 |
+
361,15.39,15.413316666666669,spk_0,uh to give time for SARS
|
374 |
+
362,15.41765,15.428166666666666,spk_0,"and, and"
|
375 |
+
363,15.430983333333334,15.45365,spk_0,"in the front end to prepare,"
|
376 |
+
364,15.45915,15.472816666666668,spk_0,um
|
377 |
+
365,15.478983333333334,15.542316666666666,spk_0,it would be nice to have something like a name or a goal to uh
|
378 |
+
366,15.54665,15.594833333333334,spk_0,start reviewing them together across groups
|
379 |
+
367,15.602816666666667,15.64865,spk_0,um on Tuesday. So
|
380 |
+
368,15.652983333333331,15.6755,spk_0,let's make that as a goal
|
381 |
+
369,15.688,15.697816666666666,spk_0,for everybody
|
382 |
+
370,15.702983333333334,15.72165,spk_0,just to clarify.
|
383 |
+
371,15.728166666666668,15.79465,spk_0,"-- What uh what, where is the chart that Phil has
|
384 |
+
-- already made"
|
385 |
+
372,15.798,15.808666666666667,spk_0,"and,"
|
386 |
+
373,15.83615,15.87265,spk_0,"but I was sharing the screen,"
|
387 |
+
374,15.893483333333334,15.920166666666669,spk_0,I am not sharing the screen.
|
388 |
+
375,15.924816666666668,15.975983333333334,spk_0,"So here on this comment, but I'll just put, I'll just put that"
|
389 |
+
376,15.9825,15.984316666666668,spk_0,here.
|
390 |
+
377,16.014666666666667,16.02765,spk_0,Um
|
391 |
+
378,16.045483333333333,16.058983333333334,spk_0,So
|
392 |
+
379,16.061316666666666,16.143833333333333,spk_0,"-- uh Thomas will pick this
|
393 |
+
-- up and create Mermaid"
|
394 |
+
380,16.16283333333333,16.169166666666666,spk_4,and
|
395 |
+
381,16.1855,16.198483333333332,spk_4,uh
|
396 |
+
382,16.210833333333333,16.259666666666668,spk_4,you had mentioned this is maybe just a subset
|
397 |
+
383,16.259833333333333,16.293,spk_4,of the things that the front end is doing.
|
398 |
+
384,16.293166666666668,16.3025,spk_4,Um
|
399 |
+
385,16.323166666666665,16.3285,spk_4,Right.
|
400 |
+
386,16.333833333333335,16.399816666666666,spk_4,Did you want just to convert this to Mermaid for
|
401 |
+
387,16.4,16.431816666666666,spk_4,"the next Tuesday meeting or do you want the,"
|
402 |
+
388,16.431983333333335,16.478650000000002,spk_4,the whole front end Ds as a Mermaid?
|
403 |
+
389,16.48015,16.480816666666666,spk_4,Ch
|
404 |
+
390,16.494483333333335,16.512316666666667,spk_4,So
|
405 |
+
391,16.516,16.550816666666666,spk_4,"you're like, yeah, yeah, it'd be great to have a whole thing"
|
406 |
+
392,16.565483333333333,16.59648333333333,spk_0,if you're asking.
|
407 |
+
393,16.609983333333332,16.630333333333333,spk_0,I would like all of it.
|
408 |
+
394,16.63315,16.639666666666667,spk_0,Right?
|
409 |
+
395,16.64365,16.645166666666668,spk_0,OK.
|
410 |
+
396,16.659316666666665,16.705333333333332,spk_0,"I'll give you, I'll give you a more reasonable thing."
|
411 |
+
397,16.7095,16.742166666666666,spk_0,It's important to have this
|
412 |
+
398,16.751333333333335,16.81215,spk_0,"in a way that it can be compared to source code, for example,"
|
413 |
+
399,16.812316666666668,16.843833333333333,spk_0,but also it can evolve over time.
|
414 |
+
400,16.848816666666668,16.910983333333334,spk_0,"So if you only have this, you'll be great start because if you think about it,"
|
415 |
+
401,16.91115,16.950333333333333,spk_0,"the file by file mode which is absent here,"
|
416 |
+
402,16.955816666666667,16.991833333333332,spk_0,um It reduces a lot of the logic.
|
417 |
+
403,16.992,17.043166666666668,spk_0,"It just, it's the way that the files are loaded and, and stuff like that."
|
418 |
+
404,17.051333333333332,17.10815,spk_0,Um So it might just be a separate Mermaid chart altogether.
|
419 |
+
405,17.11165,17.127166666666668,spk_0,Um
|
420 |
+
406,17.131666666666668,17.171,spk_0,So this is a nice start to have. So
|
421 |
+
407,17.183483333333335,17.2678,spk_0,I seem to have this and then we'll iterate through there. Uh We iterate from there.
|
422 |
+
408,17.290166666666668,17.323833333333333,spk_4,I noticed this is mostly just components.
|
423 |
+
409,17.323983333333334,17.377333333333333,spk_4,"I would also like to see something maybe not the same chart,"
|
424 |
+
410,17.3775,17.44515,spk_4,"but I would like to see one for like data flow too because that's,"
|
425 |
+
411,17.453983333333333,17.482483333333334,spk_4,it's uh we have um
|
426 |
+
412,17.491666666666667,17.554166666666667,spk_4,"there's a lot of logic and we might be able to improve that as well,"
|
427 |
+
413,17.554333333333332,17.6125,spk_4,but we get to that as some other time or I can work on my own.
|
428 |
+
414,17.625,17.634,spk_0,No. Sure.
|
429 |
+
415,17.634166666666665,17.677666666666667,spk_0,And I think that this was part of the effort trying to understand
|
430 |
+
416,17.677833333333332,17.72465,spk_0,the logic that we had throughout the whole tree of components and everything.
|
431 |
+
417,17.724816666666666,17.75,spk_0,So the context was slightly different.
|
432 |
+
418,17.75883333333333,17.768316666666667,spk_0,"I mean,"
|
433 |
+
419,17.779166666666665,17.840166666666665,spk_0,"yeah, uh do whatever is more reasonable at this point,"
|
434 |
+
420,17.840333333333334,17.899316666666667,spk_0,"if you think that this is a nice hint, but then you produce a separate mermaid chart,"
|
435 |
+
421,17.899483333333333,17.91133333333333,spk_0,we won't be upset
|
436 |
+
422,17.926,17.95615,spk_0,it. We wanna understand exactly
|
437 |
+
423,17.961,17.996666666666666,spk_0,how things are flowing through the apps through the
|
438 |
+
424,17.996833333333335,18.037316666666666,spk_0,"front end app to kind of see where the,"
|
439 |
+
425,18.03915,18.077666666666666,spk_0,the uh unifying parts
|
440 |
+
426,18.091483333333333,18.151316666666663,spk_0,so we can pull and then eventually you can have AAA tree component
|
441 |
+
427,18.17398333333333,18.17983333333333,spk_0,two.
|
442 |
+
428,18.194166666666668,18.20531666666667,spk_4,Uh
|
443 |
+
429,18.213,18.27048333333333,spk_4,"Hey, Phil, what is the, what is the reg component? There's only one,"
|
444 |
+
430,18.32333333333333,18.344666666666665,spk_2,"there is a reason why it's for,"
|
445 |
+
431,18.348666666666663,18.36798333333333,spk_2,I just don't remember the
|
446 |
+
432,18.39348333333333,18.395316666666663,spk_4,"cool,"
|
447 |
+
433,18.4085,18.438166666666667,spk_4,it's the worst offender.
|
448 |
+
434,18.45815,18.47048333333333,spk_0,"All right. I,"
|
449 |
+
435,18.478483333333333,18.503816666666665,spk_0,I think if you think about
|
450 |
+
436,18.507483333333333,18.511816666666668,spk_0,"it, the"
|
451 |
+
437,18.529333333333334,18.538166666666665,spk_0,"discussion,"
|
452 |
+
438,18.53833333333333,18.5695,spk_2,I think maybe because it's the only functional
|
453 |
+
439,18.569666666666667,18.605166666666666,spk_2,comparing but like it's not a massive deal.
|
454 |
+
440,18.613983333333334,18.646166666666662,spk_4,"Ah, ok. That's interesting."
|
455 |
+
441,18.657316666666667,18.664483333333333,spk_0,Ok.
|
456 |
+
442,18.686,18.707,spk_0,"Yeah, nothing else is red."
|
457 |
+
443,18.748,18.773666666666667,spk_0,It's interesting. But yes.
|
458 |
+
444,18.77733333333333,18.80965,spk_0,"Um, cool."
|
459 |
+
445,18.827166666666667,18.872316666666663,spk_0,"That takes care of that. Let's, let's keep evolving. I think we're making"
|
460 |
+
446,18.87783333333333,18.9135,spk_0,good progress there. I know we know that this is
|
461 |
+
447,18.925833333333333,18.97415,spk_0,like grueling and it's very complex things
|
462 |
+
448,18.978,19.0235,spk_0,I also wanted to impress on all of us that
|
463 |
+
449,19.032816666666665,19.056833333333334,spk_0,this is not
|
464 |
+
450,19.061333333333334,19.084816666666665,spk_0,"the end goal, right?"
|
465 |
+
451,19.084983333333334,19.12665,spk_0,The current state of things is just so that we can
|
466 |
+
452,19.126816666666667,19.1675,spk_0,"all wrap our heads around and we can unify it,"
|
467 |
+
453,19.175833333333333,19.2425,spk_0,"but it won't be part of the final architecture. Eventually bits of it will,"
|
468 |
+
454,19.248,19.26415,spk_0,will survive.
|
469 |
+
455,19.277666666666665,19.33265,spk_0,"But this is just to get our. So what I'm saying is, don't be perfectionist,"
|
470 |
+
456,19.346833333333333,19.3545,spk_0,right?
|
471 |
+
457,19.36015,19.42248333333333,spk_0,"Don't polish things into publishing into a medium article like it's,"
|
472 |
+
458,19.433333333333334,19.49633333333333,spk_0,"it's just for internal consumption and, and potentially docks. But uh"
|
473 |
+
459,19.51415,19.54715,spk_0,it's not the end of all here on this effort.
|
474 |
+
460,19.56798333333333,19.58833333333333,spk_0,You have to cut quarters.
|
475 |
+
461,19.599816666666666,19.60965,spk_0,That's fine.
|
476 |
+
462,19.63465,19.66733333333333,spk_0,"If you have to use comic sense, please do."
|
477 |
+
463,19.669,19.68498333333333,spk_0,"I, that's what I'm saying."
|
478 |
+
464,19.698833333333333,19.74965,spk_4,I might have to use common sense.
|
479 |
+
465,19.759816666666666,19.825666666666667,spk_0,"Yeah, just don't just don't quote me on it. My reputation will go down the drain."
|
480 |
+
466,19.84565,19.92248333333333,spk_0,All right. That takes care of the um documentation of the current implementation
|
481 |
+
467,19.925666666666668,19.955816666666667,spk_0,of this across skit lab.
|
482 |
+
468,19.97733333333333,20.038816666666666,spk_0,Any anything else that we need to discuss synchronously?
|
483 |
+
469,20.03898333333333,20.09233333333333,spk_0,We have some open issues that we can take care of as synchronously.
|
484 |
+
470,20.0925,20.11283333333333,spk_0,But is there anything else
|
485 |
+
471,20.126483333333333,20.1605,spk_0,that anybody feels we need to discuss at this point?
|
486 |
+
472,20.28333333333333,20.31683333333333,spk_0,"Oh, Patrick had a bit of a tip here"
|
487 |
+
473,20.34883333333333,20.369166666666665,spk_0,those in my mid life.
|
488 |
+
474,20.37465,20.381833333333333,spk_1,"Yeah,"
|
489 |
+
475,20.3855,20.411166666666663,spk_1,"just for that editing because it's,"
|
490 |
+
476,20.419816666666662,20.43698333333333,spk_1,"it's right. If you don't have,"
|
491 |
+
477,20.45148333333333,20.451816666666662,spk_1,you
|
492 |
+
478,20.45365,20.462666666666667,spk_1,don't have that
|
493 |
+
479,20.47898333333333,20.49515,spk_1,"-- the one
|
494 |
+
-- I use. Yeah."
|
495 |
+
480,20.52648333333333,20.537316666666666,spk_0,"Yeah, it's been nice."
|
496 |
+
481,20.572316666666666,20.58515,spk_0,Ok.
|
497 |
+
482,20.59348333333333,20.61733333333333,spk_0,Um Anything else?
|
498 |
+
483,20.69148333333333,20.692666666666668,spk_0,"Oh,"
|
499 |
+
484,20.70748333333333,20.7525,spk_0,"-- go ahead May,
|
500 |
+
-- May. Is it worth"
|
501 |
+
485,20.75483333333333,20.76533333333333,spk_4,um
|
502 |
+
486,20.784983333333333,20.808666666666667,spk_4,brainstorming on
|
503 |
+
487,20.855816666666662,20.887666666666668,spk_4,the order of priorities?
|
504 |
+
488,20.90033333333333,20.927333333333333,spk_4,"Uh for two reasons? One,"
|
505 |
+
489,20.9335,20.996166666666667,spk_4,the list that you created may not be the full list and two
|
506 |
+
490,21.00365,21.04948333333333,spk_4,as I think Patrick and I have both mentioned
|
507 |
+
491,21.05433333333333,21.06533333333333,spk_4,um
|
508 |
+
492,21.067816666666666,21.140816666666662,spk_4,"I think there is like, I think there are two classes of priorities. There's one"
|
509 |
+
493,21.14633333333333,21.21865,spk_4,I think there's like binaries like things that we either do or do not.
|
510 |
+
494,21.218833333333333,21.267,spk_4,"And we have to like, like accessibility, like I just don't,"
|
511 |
+
495,21.267166666666668,21.30615,spk_4,I don't know why we would only do half accessibility.
|
512 |
+
496,21.31015,21.33715,spk_4,Um And then there's things that are like on
|
513 |
+
497,21.337316666666663,21.3885,spk_4,a scale like maintainability or performance or whatever.
|
514 |
+
498,21.39,21.43383333333333,spk_4,Um And I wonder if it might be a good idea to sort of
|
515 |
+
499,21.467166666666667,21.48865,spk_4,"separate, like"
|
516 |
+
500,21.494,21.500833333333333,spk_4,"when,"
|
517 |
+
501,21.5065,21.528983333333333,spk_4,"when I wrote that down and I was like, I,"
|
518 |
+
502,21.537316666666666,21.5655,spk_4,we should always have accessibility.
|
519 |
+
503,21.568316666666668,21.593833333333333,spk_4,"I don't know, it should just, that should just be like a,"
|
520 |
+
504,21.594,21.632316666666668,spk_4,"a measure of completeness of, of a feature."
|
521 |
+
505,21.632483333333333,21.64433333333333,spk_4,Um
|
522 |
+
506,21.64633333333333,21.70683333333333,spk_4,And so I wonder if we should create a list of things that we can
|
523 |
+
507,21.707,21.7545,spk_4,put on a size scale and things that we either do or do not.
|
524 |
+
508,21.757483333333333,21.76615,spk_4,Um
|
525 |
+
509,21.77065,21.8385,spk_4,"Is that, is that worth, we can discuss it as think? But I wonder if that's worth like"
|
526 |
+
510,21.84348333333333,21.860666666666667,spk_4,documenting somewhere
|
527 |
+
511,21.86565,21.91933333333333,spk_0,if we have the time? I think it's important to clarify what we have there.
|
528 |
+
512,21.9195,21.992166666666662,spk_0,"Um Like we, like we talked about it, the list was haphazardly put together on a call."
|
529 |
+
513,21.995316666666668,22.057316666666665,spk_0,"It's bound to be complete, bound to be adjusted as we go."
|
530 |
+
514,22.057483333333334,22.0945,spk_0,"So yeah, that's a perfect time. Um"
|
531 |
+
515,22.10633333333333,22.165816666666668,spk_0,"So do you wanna, do you wanna present specifically what like share the screen"
|
532 |
+
516,22.18115,22.22083333333333,spk_0,and potentially propose something else?
|
533 |
+
517,22.226816666666668,22.26483333333333,spk_0,"-- I don't
|
534 |
+
-- have it open currently it"
|
535 |
+
518,22.265166666666666,22.272816666666667,spk_4,"up, up,"
|
536 |
+
519,22.27583333333333,22.27733333333333,spk_0,up
|
537 |
+
520,22.2795,22.33,spk_0,up on the uh open issues. I'm gonna try to highlight it.
|
538 |
+
521,22.359166666666667,22.382816666666667,spk_4,What are my priorities?
|
539 |
+
522,22.42183333333333,22.436,spk_4,Um
|
540 |
+
523,22.4405,22.46066666666667,spk_4,Sure I can show my screen.
|
541 |
+
524,22.47583333333333,22.482166666666668,spk_4,Mhm.
|
542 |
+
525,22.50998333333333,22.520316666666663,spk_4,Um
|
543 |
+
526,22.534,22.59433333333333,spk_4,"Yeah. So reiterating what I, what I just said, um this may not be the whole list"
|
544 |
+
527,22.597483333333333,22.611,spk_4,and
|
545 |
+
528,22.61598333333333,22.630166666666668,spk_4,um
|
546 |
+
529,22.636333333333333,22.707166666666662,spk_4,there's I I sort of see these as two different classes of things.
|
547 |
+
530,22.707316666666667,22.744,spk_4,We have like an implementation type thing which we can
|
548 |
+
531,22.744166666666665,22.78898333333333,spk_4,put on a scale of what should we sacrifice versus
|
549 |
+
532,22.78915,22.85365,spk_4,other things versus product completeness or future completeness where like
|
550 |
+
533,22.853816666666667,22.90165,spk_4,"I don't think we should really ever sacrifice accessibility,"
|
551 |
+
534,22.901816666666665,22.9405,spk_4,"for example, that's part of the feature."
|
552 |
+
535,22.942,22.950333333333333,spk_4,Um
|
553 |
+
536,22.965,22.985316666666662,spk_4,So like
|
554 |
+
537,22.995316666666668,23.01165,spk_4,"should we,"
|
555 |
+
538,23.03183333333333,23.032316666666667,spk_4,I
|
556 |
+
539,23.04298333333333,23.044166666666666,spk_4,I'm
|
557 |
+
540,23.046983333333333,23.0965,spk_4,not logged in. Very cool. Um Should we
|
558 |
+
541,23.1105,23.19365,spk_4,create two lists here? 11 list of things that we either
|
559 |
+
542,23.19765,23.258666666666667,spk_4,do or do not bully in and one list of things that we can
|
560 |
+
543,23.2605,23.29565,spk_4,kind of pit against other things.
|
561 |
+
544,23.29915,23.323666666666668,spk_4,"That's kind of my, that's my idea."
|
562 |
+
545,23.38715,23.405483333333333,spk_0,"Yeah, I think you might,"
|
563 |
+
546,23.407166666666665,23.4445,spk_0,you might want to stop sharing the screen for this.
|
564 |
+
547,23.44965,23.48281666666667,spk_0,"You, you're on the screen share, you're recording."
|
565 |
+
548,23.52166666666667,23.531333333333333,spk_0,There you go.
|
566 |
+
549,23.55565,23.584816666666665,spk_4,It doesn't matter. I don't know.
|
567 |
+
550,23.596833333333333,23.604166666666668,spk_0,"Yeah, it's fine."
|
568 |
+
551,23.61198333333333,23.654666666666667,spk_0,Um So you have a point here
|
569 |
+
552,23.66365,23.7335,spk_0,"um in terms of, in terms of accessibility, accessibility is still"
|
570 |
+
553,23.74,23.779333333333334,spk_0,technically a spectrum because you could have
|
571 |
+
554,23.7795,23.82248333333333,spk_0,"different levels of compliance depending on what,"
|
572 |
+
555,23.83566666666667,23.86133333333333,spk_0,"what do you go for, right."
|
573 |
+
556,23.86798333333333,23.891666666666666,spk_0,"Um We have the,"
|
574 |
+
557,23.897316666666665,23.967,spk_0,"well, if you're using the WWCAG, you have the three,"
|
575 |
+
558,23.969166666666663,24.00815,spk_0,the AAA the AA the single A
|
576 |
+
559,24.015816666666662,24.092,spk_0,"depending on how much compliant and how much testing, manual testing,"
|
577 |
+
560,24.092166666666667,24.125666666666667,spk_0,automated testing you have involved.
|
578 |
+
561,24.133333333333333,24.1885,spk_0,Um So accessibility itself is a spectrum.
|
579 |
+
562,24.19298333333333,24.286,spk_0,"You might have a point that we, we might not wanna sacrifice that. So I think it,"
|
580 |
+
563,24.295483333333333,24.349816666666666,spk_0,if anything it comes to a point of
|
581 |
+
564,24.368316666666665,24.394166666666667,spk_0,like the goals we have
|
582 |
+
565,24.39965,24.439316666666667,spk_0,of like perceived performance accessible
|
583 |
+
566,24.461,24.52865,spk_0,"having opposites which is like developer, developer experience,"
|
584 |
+
567,24.528816666666668,24.55033333333333,spk_0,"which is maintainability, I guess."
|
585 |
+
568,24.558666666666667,24.569666666666667,spk_0,Um
|
586 |
+
569,24.583666666666662,24.63115,spk_0,"Yeah, coverage coverage might just not be"
|
587 |
+
570,24.63983333333333,24.655316666666668,spk_0,"the best,"
|
588 |
+
571,24.65833333333333,24.669166666666666,spk_0,I guess.
|
589 |
+
572,24.676,24.687833333333334,spk_0,Um
|
590 |
+
573,24.69148333333333,24.7025,spk_4,"I do,"
|
591 |
+
574,24.71066666666667,24.757816666666667,spk_4,"I think that's actually, so that's actually kind of an interesting one."
|
592 |
+
575,24.77316666666667,24.790166666666668,spk_4,because
|
593 |
+
576,24.82415,24.863166666666668,spk_4,I think there are times when we could say
|
594 |
+
577,24.866316666666663,24.87848333333333,spk_4,um
|
595 |
+
578,24.90833333333333,25.011333333333333,spk_4,implementing this feature is going to be absolutely crucial to ex uh
|
596 |
+
579,25.01415,25.05998333333333,spk_4,widespread adoption of new gifts or whatever
|
597 |
+
580,25.075,25.161,spk_4,or we could say uh implementing this feature will add so much complexity to
|
598 |
+
581,25.16865,25.25,spk_4,"gift generation or whatever that it is, it will"
|
599 |
+
582,25.255983333333333,25.30398333333333,spk_4,"dramatically hurt our performance. And that's kind of,"
|
600 |
+
583,25.31615,25.36083333333333,spk_4,it's the antithesis of what we're trying to do here.
|
601 |
+
584,25.363166666666668,25.37465,spk_4,Um
|
602 |
+
585,25.37815,25.3875,spk_4,"So, I mean,"
|
603 |
+
586,25.387666666666668,25.41648333333333,spk_4,coverage I think is probably a good thing to
|
604 |
+
587,25.416666666666668,25.461166666666667,spk_4,bring in there because that's gonna be a question.
|
605 |
+
588,25.478483333333333,25.517666666666667,spk_0,Yeah. Especially because the repository and meg
|
606 |
+
589,25.52133333333333,25.538816666666666,spk_0,quest have different
|
607 |
+
590,25.555816666666665,25.56415,spk_0,back
|
608 |
+
591,25.57583333333333,25.605316666666667,spk_0,pinnings or whatever we want to call it.
|
609 |
+
592,25.619816666666665,25.6755,spk_0,"Uh If anything, it would be helpful to understand."
|
610 |
+
593,25.7005,25.743483333333334,spk_0,"So for example, if it's harder"
|
611 |
+
594,25.74683333333333,25.794816666666662,spk_0,"to implement on a certain scenario,"
|
612 |
+
595,25.81448333333333,25.82665,spk_0,um
|
613 |
+
596,25.862666666666662,25.91015,spk_0,should that be enough to not implement it there?
|
614 |
+
597,25.92248333333333,25.936166666666665,spk_0,Or
|
615 |
+
598,25.94715,26.022816666666667,spk_0,"for example, as long as it doesn't hinder performance, we should still strive to"
|
616 |
+
599,26.0315,26.06565,spk_0,implement it there. It's like
|
617 |
+
600,26.0715,26.086816666666667,spk_0,"implement,"
|
618 |
+
601,26.09715,26.130816666666668,spk_0,try to implement as much as we can
|
619 |
+
602,26.13948333333333,26.16998333333333,spk_0,everything on all scenarios.
|
620 |
+
603,26.214316666666665,26.22448333333333,spk_0,Um
|
621 |
+
604,26.2405,26.26083333333333,spk_0,Except when
|
622 |
+
605,26.27865,26.327666666666666,spk_0,"it hinders perceived performance, which would be at the top"
|
623 |
+
606,26.358666666666668,26.379666666666665,spk_0,that comes a priority
|
624 |
+
607,26.4155,26.440166666666663,spk_0,but not maintainability.
|
625 |
+
608,26.443483333333333,26.45433333333333,spk_0,"Well,"
|
626 |
+
609,26.465333333333334,26.47415,spk_0,"me,"
|
627 |
+
610,26.49098333333333,26.53115,spk_4,"so yeah, that actually raises an interesting point."
|
628 |
+
611,26.531333333333333,26.589316666666665,spk_4,"I would, I would, I would make the case and I, and I maybe I,"
|
629 |
+
612,26.58948333333333,26.619,spk_4,"maybe I'm not the right advocate for this,"
|
630 |
+
613,26.619166666666665,26.675666666666668,spk_4,but I would make the case that a lot of times um
|
631 |
+
614,26.69833333333333,26.76598333333333,spk_4,our performance problems eventually come from having
|
632 |
+
615,26.78515,26.844166666666663,spk_4,uh done something because we needed to ship it.
|
633 |
+
616,26.85633333333333,26.90683333333333,spk_4,"Like we've got to get this feature out, we have to complete this thing"
|
634 |
+
617,26.909333333333333,26.927666666666667,spk_4,and we just did it
|
635 |
+
618,26.93115,27.0025,spk_4,instead of focusing on OK. Is this going to hurt the application performance?
|
636 |
+
619,27.002666666666663,27.042166666666667,spk_4,Is this gonna have hurt the applications maintainability?
|
637 |
+
620,27.04515,27.105816666666662,spk_4,And eventually we get to a point where performance is a problem.
|
638 |
+
621,27.110666666666667,27.15165,spk_4,"Um And by the way back in people, I'm,"
|
639 |
+
622,27.15348333333333,27.182816666666668,spk_4,I'm coming purely from a front end perspective.
|
640 |
+
623,27.182983333333333,27.215,spk_4,"I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about that."
|
641 |
+
624,27.238333333333333,27.263166666666667,spk_4,Um So
|
642 |
+
625,27.268316666666667,27.2775,spk_4,uh
|
643 |
+
626,27.28465,27.30365,spk_4,I think that like
|
644 |
+
627,27.306666666666665,27.317666666666668,spk_4,um
|
645 |
+
628,27.3385,27.36683333333333,spk_4,completeness and maintainability
|
646 |
+
629,27.373833333333334,27.4065,spk_4,actually has a
|
647 |
+
630,27.416666666666668,27.44683333333333,spk_4,long term effect on performance.
|
648 |
+
631,27.4945,27.50615,spk_4,And uh
|
649 |
+
632,27.507816666666667,27.51998333333333,spk_4,and so
|
650 |
+
633,27.53783333333333,27.591483333333333,spk_4,"uh the maintainability aspect of code,"
|
651 |
+
634,27.591666666666665,27.630166666666668,spk_4,I think is actually more important than it seems
|
652 |
+
635,27.642666666666667,27.65483333333333,spk_4,like
|
653 |
+
636,27.65883333333333,27.70833333333333,spk_4,"like on surface, you might be like, oh, we'll just, we'll do,"
|
654 |
+
637,27.7085,27.74098333333333,spk_4,we'll do performance first and then
|
655 |
+
638,27.74315,27.79433333333333,spk_4,"coverage and then we'll put maintain maintainability because me,"
|
656 |
+
639,27.81015,27.83633333333333,spk_4,"but uh eventually,"
|
657 |
+
640,27.8375,27.882316666666668,spk_4,I think sacrificing maintainability over those other
|
658 |
+
641,27.882483333333333,27.92215,spk_4,two things will eventually hurt performance.
|
659 |
+
642,27.922316666666667,27.94233333333333,spk_4,That's the case that I would make.
|
660 |
+
643,27.9855,28.03715,spk_0,I think you just give the order right there. Because
|
661 |
+
644,28.053816666666663,28.109166666666667,spk_0,"if so for example, if, if"
|
662 |
+
645,28.124816666666668,28.196,spk_0,we do care that the project is maintainable because we do care that things are
|
663 |
+
646,28.209333333333333,28.258333333333333,spk_0,"future proofing and you can work with it in the future,"
|
664 |
+
647,28.2585,28.290333333333333,spk_0,"we can add more features in the future,"
|
665 |
+
648,28.297816666666662,28.32415,spk_0,add more features in the future.
|
666 |
+
649,28.3425,28.38448333333333,spk_0,"But if something is not available everywhere,"
|
667 |
+
650,28.392,28.43048333333333,spk_0,it doesn't seem like a deal breaker
|
668 |
+
651,28.43065,28.47015,spk_0,"mostly because if it's not available everywhere,"
|
669 |
+
652,28.470316666666665,28.54315,spk_0,it's because of the cost of the perceived performance and the maintainability.
|
670 |
+
653,28.55633333333333,28.596666666666668,spk_0,"So if we leave accessibility out of the equation,"
|
671 |
+
654,28.596833333333333,28.637316666666667,spk_0,the order becomes pretty apparent I would say.
|
672 |
+
655,28.688166666666667,28.76683333333333,spk_4,And uh and that would be what I just said uh performance
|
673 |
+
656,28.76998333333333,28.786483333333333,spk_4,"coverage,"
|
674 |
+
657,28.792,28.807816666666668,spk_4,maintainability.
|
675 |
+
658,28.813983333333333,28.8505,spk_0,"No, it will be perceived performance at the top."
|
676 |
+
659,28.859816666666667,28.882316666666668,spk_0,That's the most important thing.
|
677 |
+
660,28.887833333333333,28.9125,spk_0,They overcome maintainability
|
678 |
+
661,28.91733333333333,28.93715,spk_0,and then it would come coverage.
|
679 |
+
662,28.937316666666668,29.005816666666668,spk_0,"So coverage, we would be we would be willing to sacrifice coverage"
|
680 |
+
663,29.015,29.059816666666663,spk_0,if it's for the sake of maintainability or
|
681 |
+
664,29.068483333333333,29.091833333333334,spk_0,perceived performance.
|
682 |
+
665,29.09915,29.11165,spk_0,Um
|
683 |
+
666,29.1275,29.19383333333333,spk_0,"And of course, this is not like black and white, this is not binary rules, right?"
|
684 |
+
667,29.194,29.266483333333333,spk_0,"We, we will still quantify whether it's worth"
|
685 |
+
668,29.30033333333333,29.351,spk_0,"implementing this across all, all, all scenarios"
|
686 |
+
669,29.357983333333333,29.38715,spk_0,and what's the impact of maintainability?
|
687 |
+
670,29.387316666666667,29.4375,spk_0,What like how much complexity do we have to introduce and and
|
688 |
+
671,29.437666666666665,29.4855,spk_0,can we isolate it in a way that it's safe enough?
|
689 |
+
672,29.485666666666667,29.51483333333333,spk_0,So there's still a composition around it but it
|
690 |
+
673,29.515,29.55115,spk_0,"was still gives us pause to kind of like,"
|
691 |
+
674,29.554166666666667,29.59883333333333,spk_0,"OK, if we need to, that seems to be"
|
692 |
+
675,29.60765,29.62615,spk_0,"because here's the thing,"
|
693 |
+
676,29.630166666666668,29.666833333333333,spk_0,I think there's gonna be scenarios where
|
694 |
+
677,29.66865,29.72133333333333,spk_0,"full coverage doesn't make sense from a usability perspective,"
|
695 |
+
678,29.7215,29.76083333333333,spk_0,from a context perspective from
|
696 |
+
679,29.76815,29.794816666666662,spk_0,just the object we're talking about.
|
697 |
+
680,29.8025,29.814833333333333,spk_0,Um
|
698 |
+
681,29.82215,29.87215,spk_0,which essentially means that I don't know some certain feature
|
699 |
+
682,29.88,29.894816666666667,spk_0,"and we're talking about,"
|
700 |
+
683,29.909,29.940166666666663,spk_0,"let's stick commenting, for example,"
|
701 |
+
684,29.955483333333333,29.99115,spk_0,commenting does commenting
|
702 |
+
685,29.998166666666663,30.06083333333333,spk_0,have the same weight on the merger quest that it does on a repository commit
|
703 |
+
686,30.094666666666665,30.11766666666667,spk_0,feasibility perspective?
|
704 |
+
687,30.12898333333333,30.166666666666668,spk_0,I don't think so. I think they're different weights.
|
705 |
+
688,30.1835,30.188333333333333,spk_0,Yeah.
|
706 |
+
689,30.200166666666668,30.251816666666667,spk_0,"Right. Would you agree anybody would, would you all agree"
|
707 |
+
690,30.26083333333333,30.27698333333333,spk_0,if you think about it?
|
708 |
+
691,30.281333333333333,30.348166666666668,spk_0,The Merger Quest review is the moment where that code is being revised.
|
709 |
+
692,30.352666666666668,30.380316666666666,spk_0,"When it's repository,"
|
710 |
+
693,30.38315,30.45565,spk_0,"it could be at rest, it could be at the default branch and who's gonna see it?"
|
711 |
+
694,30.455816666666667,30.482316666666662,spk_0,Who's gonna see that comment?
|
712 |
+
695,30.48633333333333,30.5135,spk_4,"So by weight, you mean"
|
713 |
+
696,30.51933333333333,30.538,spk_4,how important is
|
714 |
+
697,30.54315,30.58898333333333,spk_4,"to do to, to make sure we have? OK."
|
715 |
+
698,30.597816666666667,30.604666666666667,spk_4,"-- Got
|
716 |
+
-- you. Yeah."
|
717 |
+
699,30.611816666666662,30.667666666666666,spk_0,"So it, it doesn't mean that we're not gonna have comments, we might"
|
718 |
+
700,30.678316666666667,30.704666666666668,spk_0,"Uh I'm just saying that they carry,"
|
719 |
+
701,30.704833333333333,30.76333333333333,spk_0,they carry different importances depending on the context.
|
720 |
+
702,30.77065,30.78115,spk_0,Um
|
721 |
+
703,30.79298333333333,30.823,spk_0,"And if, for example, if the, at the beginning,"
|
722 |
+
704,30.823166666666665,30.91215,spk_0,the this component of this app doesn't support comments on every context.
|
723 |
+
705,30.914483333333333,30.966483333333333,spk_0,"And if you think about it, this is already true. Like when you're creating a new form,"
|
724 |
+
706,30.97415,31.01448333333333,spk_0,"so when we're, when we're comparing branches"
|
725 |
+
707,31.01615,31.04,spk_0,"comments, that doesn't make sense,"
|
726 |
+
708,31.050666666666668,31.05883333333333,spk_0,does it
|
727 |
+
709,31.074483333333333,31.143316666666667,spk_0,"when we're opening a new form, why would you comment when you're opening a new form?"
|
728 |
+
710,31.1545,31.154666666666667,spk_0,Uh
|
729 |
+
711,31.15798333333333,31.18048333333333,spk_0,"Sorry, were you opening an emer"
|
730 |
+
712,31.182166666666667,31.188816666666668,spk_0,quest?
|
731 |
+
713,31.201,31.24683333333333,spk_0,Uh So we already have this scenario where certain context
|
732 |
+
714,31.246983333333333,31.293316666666662,spk_0,will definitely not have full coverage of the features.
|
733 |
+
715,31.29348333333333,31.32933333333333,spk_0,"So that, that's a no brainer. So that's,"
|
734 |
+
716,31.342816666666668,31.41848333333333,spk_0,"so let's, so if we remove accessibility, how do we guarantee the accessibility is"
|
735 |
+
717,31.444816666666668,31.45683333333333,spk_1,"I think,"
|
736 |
+
718,31.461166666666667,31.479166666666668,spk_4,"I think as part,"
|
737 |
+
719,31.479333333333333,31.53115,spk_4,"maybe as part of our meaningful metrics or maybe is a different thing,"
|
738 |
+
720,31.531333333333333,31.5885,spk_4,"we just need to define the things that are like what, what is a feature?"
|
739 |
+
721,31.594,31.6335,spk_4,And I think a feature is like uh
|
740 |
+
722,31.63715,31.66015,spk_4,"it's accessible,"
|
741 |
+
723,31.662666666666667,31.670483333333333,spk_4,it
|
742 |
+
724,31.67383333333333,31.707816666666663,spk_4,"has, it matches your style guide"
|
743 |
+
725,31.714316666666665,31.725166666666667,spk_4,and it's
|
744 |
+
726,31.732983333333333,31.795483333333333,spk_4,and it's com it's a complete functionality or whatever.
|
745 |
+
727,31.79565,31.821,spk_4,I think accessibility just has to be one of
|
746 |
+
728,31.821166666666667,31.861816666666662,spk_4,the things that defines how we know we're done.
|
747 |
+
729,31.898983333333334,31.93265,spk_4,I don't know if that's a meaningful metric or not. But
|
748 |
+
730,31.968833333333333,31.97983333333333,spk_0,um
|
749 |
+
731,32.00765,32.01598333333333,spk_0,"OK,"
|
750 |
+
732,32.019666666666666,32.06933333333333,spk_0,I think I can take that. I think it definitely makes sense because I
|
751 |
+
733,32.07215,32.13665,spk_0,"it, I struggled to put accessibility here because it's like you said"
|
752 |
+
734,32.14915,32.16683333333334,spk_0,it's sort of like
|
753 |
+
735,32.169,32.16916666666667,spk_0,a
|
754 |
+
736,32.1735,32.22665,spk_0,principle of development that we definitely need to have it from the get go.
|
755 |
+
737,32.24548333333333,32.2565,spk_0,Um
|
756 |
+
738,32.277166666666666,32.28948333333334,spk_0,"And we could,"
|
757 |
+
739,32.29331666666667,32.31733333333333,spk_0,would never sacrifice it.
|
758 |
+
740,32.335316666666664,32.39233333333333,spk_4,Yeah. And to your point about like there are different levels of accessibility.
|
759 |
+
741,32.3925,32.415,spk_4,I think Paulina
|
760 |
+
742,32.41683333333334,32.42815,spk_4,um
|
761 |
+
743,32.43416666666667,32.46981666666667,spk_4,in the meaningful metrics posted like
|
762 |
+
744,32.475,32.519,spk_4,all of the accessibility guidelines for
|
763 |
+
745,32.523983333333334,32.59883333333333,spk_4,"um content editors essentially, which is what, what we would have. Um"
|
764 |
+
746,32.609,32.66133333333333,spk_4,"And she recommended she's like, let's do AA not AAA."
|
765 |
+
747,32.66316666666667,32.71865,spk_4,"And like that could be something that we, that we like"
|
766 |
+
748,32.72116666666667,32.76733333333333,spk_4,the accepted feature is AA accessibility.
|
767 |
+
749,32.7675,32.7965,spk_4,We don't have to worry about AAA right now.
|
768 |
+
750,32.800333333333334,32.844,spk_4,But like that's the level that we get to or whatever.
|
769 |
+
751,32.8625,32.935833333333335,spk_0,"Yeah, I like putting that as accept as a acceptance metric as um um"
|
770 |
+
752,32.93816666666667,32.951483333333336,spk_0,what do we call it
|
771 |
+
753,32.96666666666667,32.98031666666667,spk_0,meaningful metric?
|
772 |
+
754,33.02415,33.033833333333334,spk_0,OK.
|
773 |
+
755,33.04915,33.0715,spk_0,So I'm putting here
|
774 |
+
756,33.078316666666666,33.09616666666667,spk_0,order list.
|
775 |
+
757,33.12766666666667,33.17265,spk_0,Does anybody here on the call object to that list?
|
776 |
+
758,33.189483333333335,33.211,spk_0,Removing disability?
|
777 |
+
759,33.22966666666667,33.28,spk_4,So I don't object to it. I will throw a wrench into it though.
|
778 |
+
760,33.28816666666667,33.37733333333333,spk_4,"We have essentially, we've essentially said um coverage is the last thing,"
|
779 |
+
761,33.38816666666666,33.45666666666666,spk_4,"the lowest priority we will, we'll focus on performance maintainability first"
|
780 |
+
762,33.469,33.47665,spk_4,that
|
781 |
+
763,33.489666666666665,33.50131666666667,spk_4,uh
|
782 |
+
764,33.513,33.54331666666667,spk_4,that level coverage
|
783 |
+
765,33.54715,33.62665,spk_4,"is something where other stakeholders uh have much more interest, right?"
|
784 |
+
766,33.62681666666667,33.7,spk_4,"Like, like uh Kai will be much more interested in coverage than"
|
785 |
+
767,33.702333333333335,33.7235,spk_4,uh maintainability
|
786 |
+
768,33.727833333333336,33.746,spk_4,"um presumably,"
|
787 |
+
769,33.7565,33.77015,spk_4,is that
|
788 |
+
770,33.785666666666664,33.79331666666667,spk_4,"how,"
|
789 |
+
771,33.81283333333333,33.859,spk_4,how do we bring other stakeholders into this conversation without
|
790 |
+
772,33.85916666666667,33.9085,spk_4,sacrificing sort of the integrity of the architectural discussion?
|
791 |
+
773,33.92815,33.941316666666665,spk_4,Because like
|
792 |
+
774,33.9445,33.962833333333336,spk_4,"we, we could say, OK,"
|
793 |
+
775,33.963,34.00483333333333,spk_4,"we're gonna have this architectural discussion outside of the,"
|
794 |
+
776,34.005,34.030316666666664,spk_4,outside of like product
|
795 |
+
777,34.034333333333336,34.04765,spk_4,"and then when,"
|
796 |
+
778,34.0625,34.10131666666667,spk_4,"but that's sort of sticking our head in the sand because at some point,"
|
797 |
+
779,34.101483333333334,34.145466666666664,spk_4,we are going to run into product needs.
|
798 |
+
780,34.15265,34.181,spk_0,"That's a great, that's a great question."
|
799 |
+
781,34.18833333333333,34.2403,spk_0,"The way that I see this list is, um,"
|
800 |
+
782,34.26165,34.27865,spk_0,"is um,"
|
801 |
+
783,34.28263333333334,34.32298333333333,spk_0,"pre agreed upon, ordered"
|
802 |
+
784,34.34096666666667,34.40983333333333,spk_0,by default. Like it's something that we use to decide things on the go as we go.
|
803 |
+
785,34.42616666666667,34.46666666666667,spk_0,There are always gonna be cases where we get overridden.
|
804 |
+
786,34.48433333333333,34.54266666666667,spk_0,"And this will come from the perspective of sometimes user experience,"
|
805 |
+
787,34.542833333333334,34.55696666666667,spk_0,sometimes product.
|
806 |
+
788,34.55715,34.56998333333333,spk_0,"Sometimes,"
|
807 |
+
789,34.57731666666667,34.63665,spk_0,"for example, uh I can already think about one"
|
808 |
+
790,34.65265,34.66515,spk_0,um
|
809 |
+
791,34.7225,34.73965,spk_0,code quality.
|
810 |
+
792,34.74948333333333,34.760983333333336,spk_0,I was
|
811 |
+
793,34.763,34.78033333333333,spk_0,"wrapping my head,"
|
812 |
+
794,34.784333333333336,34.802,spk_0,my brain around that
|
813 |
+
795,34.80616666666667,34.84513333333334,spk_0,"code quality. We have that in the merger quest,"
|
814 |
+
796,34.84896666666667,34.857483333333334,spk_0,right?
|
815 |
+
797,34.871833333333335,34.891666666666666,spk_0,What this means
|
816 |
+
798,34.896,34.91898333333334,spk_0,"is for that to come in,"
|
817 |
+
799,34.91915,34.97415,spk_0,it cannot come at the cost of maintainability and perceived performance.
|
818 |
+
800,34.99081666666667,35.00866666666667,spk_0,They can still come in
|
819 |
+
801,35.0305,35.086816666666664,spk_0,"not at the cost of maintainability and perceived performance,"
|
820 |
+
802,35.09915,35.16981666666667,spk_0,which means that it will not be just spaghetti code thrown into the code base.
|
821 |
+
803,35.169983333333334,35.23215,spk_0,"It would have to be something accounted for with some potentially some you know,"
|
822 |
+
804,35.23231666666667,35.256816666666666,spk_0,"clogging architecture,"
|
823 |
+
805,35.2625,35.28483333333333,spk_0,"decorators,"
|
824 |
+
806,35.28766666666667,35.32216666666667,spk_0,"options, use of preference, whatever it is,"
|
825 |
+
807,35.335483333333336,35.3755,spk_0,"it is to come the perspective of maintainability,"
|
826 |
+
808,35.37566666666667,35.41598333333334,spk_0,but also it could not hinder performance.
|
827 |
+
809,35.41615,35.42616666666667,spk_0,And I think
|
828 |
+
810,35.43116666666667,35.48016666666667,spk_0,it's already working. Look at that it's already working
|
829 |
+
811,35.489333333333335,35.53965,spk_0,in the way that we want to is that they can still come
|
830 |
+
812,35.54148333333333,35.58615,spk_0,coverage can still be achieved 100% of the time
|
831 |
+
813,35.59115,35.61615,spk_0,"you just cannot suffer,"
|
832 |
+
814,35.62315,35.64431666666667,spk_0,it cannot become a cost of
|
833 |
+
815,35.652,35.66481666666667,spk_0,performance.
|
834 |
+
816,35.68033333333333,35.71783333333333,spk_0,"So, again, we're not closing the door on products"
|
835 |
+
817,35.72465,35.79398333333334,spk_0,just creating the framework by how this app will survive the beers.
|
836 |
+
818,35.84166666666667,35.876666666666665,spk_4,That's gonna be the hardest part is enforcing that
|
837 |
+
819,35.901,35.92133333333334,spk_4,"-- I'll, I'll,
|
838 |
+
-- I'll"
|
839 |
+
820,35.92315,35.92365,spk_0,have
|
840 |
+
821,35.92831666666667,35.96581666666667,spk_4,"it's a social thing, not a technical thing."
|
841 |
+
822,36.017833333333336,36.06948333333333,spk_0,"All right, that sounds good. Now, the question is, is this list complete?"
|
842 |
+
823,36.06965,36.10648333333334,spk_0,Is there anything else that we need to look out for
|
843 |
+
824,36.113166666666665,36.1465,spk_0,or is this good enough to start?
|
844 |
+
825,36.235166666666665,36.27415,spk_4,"I think, assuming that we"
|
845 |
+
826,36.29065,36.36481666666667,spk_4,uh have more discussions on the meaningful metrics and what
|
846 |
+
827,36.364983333333335,36.43631666666667,spk_4,"is maintainability issues and really nail down those two,"
|
847 |
+
828,36.44166666666667,36.499316666666665,spk_4,"like what will get us performance, what will give us maintainability?"
|
848 |
+
829,36.5045,36.51598333333333,spk_4,Um
|
849 |
+
830,36.51766666666666,36.547666666666665,spk_4,"I think this is enough for now,"
|
850 |
+
831,36.554833333333335,36.590316666666666,spk_4,but we really have to nail down those
|
851 |
+
832,36.60466666666667,36.61565,spk_1,concepts.
|
852 |
+
833,36.63766666666667,36.646166666666666,spk_0,OK.
|
853 |
+
834,36.66465,36.686816666666665,spk_0,"Anything else anybody,"
|
854 |
+
835,36.71565,36.742,spk_0,you have any other thoughts on this?
|
855 |
+
836,36.80166666666667,36.83981666666666,spk_0,"Cool. So Thomas, can you post a comment"
|
856 |
+
837,36.8425,36.9185,spk_0,"in that issue? Just saying that we discussed this in the, in the weekly call"
|
857 |
+
838,36.92183333333333,36.960816666666666,spk_0,"and we arrived at this result,"
|
858 |
+
839,36.96098333333333,37.01016666666667,spk_0,order list three points and the accessibility
|
859 |
+
840,37.010333333333335,37.051,spk_0,is taken part of uh meaningful metrics
|
860 |
+
841,37.05433333333333,37.083666666666666,spk_0,which will be defining that other issue.
|
861 |
+
842,37.09015,37.150666666666666,spk_0,"And uh we'll get ourselves a list and then we'll keep it open for, you know,"
|
862 |
+
843,37.15083333333333,37.180166666666665,spk_0,a week and then if nobody complains
|
863 |
+
844,37.196666666666665,37.205666666666666,spk_0,"merge it,"
|
864 |
+
845,37.2145,37.26565,spk_0,"just giving, giving time for people to contribute. That's, that's all we want."
|
865 |
+
846,37.290816666666665,37.32983333333333,spk_0,"You might be missing something obvious, but I really like the"
|
866 |
+
847,37.33298333333333,37.35083333333333,spk_0,discussion. So
|
867 |
+
848,37.37283333333333,37.39183333333333,spk_0,I feel like we're making progress.
|
868 |
+
849,37.42865,37.46631666666666,spk_0,Awesome. I'll put that up on you.
|
869 |
+
850,37.551833333333335,37.58416666666667,spk_0,Anything else to discuss? Folks?
|
870 |
+
851,37.65731666666667,37.71683333333333,spk_0,There will come a time. I think where we'll start gonna be starting to discuss.
|
871 |
+
852,37.73148333333334,37.744816666666665,spk_0,Uh
|
872 |
+
853,37.75033333333333,37.797983333333335,spk_0,what changes do we need to do to Italy to get data frag
|
873 |
+
854,37.80133333333333,37.831,spk_0,"fragmented, sorry,"
|
874 |
+
855,37.86866666666667,37.89565,spk_0,getting the data fragmented
|
875 |
+
856,37.90133333333333,37.956316666666666,spk_0,"and how the front end should deal with that with, you know,"
|
876 |
+
857,37.95648333333333,37.99565,spk_0,streaming information into the front end.
|
877 |
+
858,37.99583333333333,38.068333333333335,spk_0,"What kind of components, trees and view and web component that will come?"
|
878 |
+
859,38.08,38.11098333333333,spk_0,But I think for now we need to
|
879 |
+
860,38.117666666666665,38.18298333333333,spk_0,get a strong foundation and understanding of all the scenarios
|
880 |
+
861,38.18315,38.22798333333333,spk_0,here and uh it will get more exciting later on.
|
881 |
+
862,38.22815,38.238,spk_0,I expect
|
882 |
+
863,38.29583333333333,38.3135,spk_0,not a promise.
|
883 |
+
864,38.31733333333333,38.332816666666666,spk_0,It's a hope
|
884 |
+
865,38.3635,38.441833333333335,spk_4,jumping too early to implementation while uh always causes pain. So right.
|
885 |
+
866,38.44465,38.50116666666667,spk_0,"So I think we're, we're taking our good point, a good time with it."
|
886 |
+
867,38.51615,38.57266666666666,spk_0,"Thanks everybody. Uh If nobody has any other points, we can call it here."
|
887 |
+
868,38.572833333333335,38.59183333333333,spk_0,Have some free time back.
|
888 |
+
869,38.62583333333333,38.634,spk_0,All right.
|
889 |
+
870,38.63981666666667,38.65781666666667,spk_0,Thank you so much. Everybody
|
890 |
+
871,38.68066666666667,38.6895,spk_0,take care.
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1 |
+
,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
|
2 |
+
0,0.0168,0.0368333333333333,spk_0,And we're live.
|
3 |
+
1,0.0405,0.11515,spk_0,Welcome to yet another weekly call um for
|
4 |
+
2,0.1213333333333333,0.1905,spk_0,em and America's time zones of the new diffs architecture
|
5 |
+
3,0.2035,0.2211666666666666,spk_0,workflow effort.
|
6 |
+
4,0.2294999999999999,0.2464833333333333,spk_0,That's a mouthful.
|
7 |
+
5,0.25,0.2784833333333333,spk_0,Uh I'll go straight to the agenda.
|
8 |
+
6,0.27865,0.3291666666666666,spk_0,We have um a point from Patrick who's not attending.
|
9 |
+
7,0.33865,0.4255,spk_0,"Um I'll be out starting this Thursday, October 12 and we'll be back on October 17th."
|
10 |
+
8,0.4256666666666666,0.47165,spk_0,So I won't be able to host slash attend the A P A call.
|
11 |
+
9,0.4718166666666666,0.5045,spk_0,We'll catch up on recording and issues.
|
12 |
+
10,0.5145000000000001,0.5791666666666667,spk_0,"He also says related to the A P A call, no one attended the last one."
|
13 |
+
11,0.5793166666666667,0.6588166666666667,spk_0,So I wonder if we should make it earlier in case someone from America can join.
|
14 |
+
12,0.6629833333333334,0.7075,spk_0,What do you think about 1 a.m. UTC?
|
15 |
+
13,0.7548333333333334,0.7638333333333333,spk_0,"That's,"
|
16 |
+
14,0.8474833333333333,0.8784833333333334,spk_1,"is, would anyone here be affected by that?"
|
17 |
+
15,0.8908333333333334,0.9078333333333332,spk_1,"Like, I can't go to that?"
|
18 |
+
16,0.9079833333333334,0.9628333333333334,spk_1,"Well, I mean, I could go to that but that would be no, thank you."
|
19 |
+
17,0.9635,1.023,spk_1,"-- Um What
|
20 |
+
-- would be your time at that? If it was 1 a.m. one AM"
|
21 |
+
18,1.02315,1.0484833333333334,spk_1,UGC would be
|
22 |
+
19,1.094833333333333,1.1498166666666667,spk_1,"uh 6 p.m. I think,"
|
23 |
+
20,1.1628166666666666,1.182483333333333,spk_1,"I think I minus seven,"
|
24 |
+
21,1.22665,1.291483333333333,spk_1,"which I mean, I suppose I could go to that. It wouldn't be my most favorite time. But"
|
25 |
+
22,1.3548333333333331,1.3751666666666666,spk_0,"this is what it would look like,"
|
26 |
+
23,1.3895,1.43665,spk_0,"uh, where are these locations are here on the right hand side?"
|
27 |
+
24,1.44565,1.47715,spk_0,So London would be two am
|
28 |
+
25,1.4883333333333333,1.5093166666666666,spk_0,sorry. What was his proposal?
|
29 |
+
26,1.522166666666667,1.5615,spk_0,"1 a.m. Yeah, 1 a.m. UTC. But with daily"
|
30 |
+
27,1.5648166666666667,1.6016499999999998,spk_0,daylight savings time is 2 a.m. London.
|
31 |
+
28,1.6131666666666666,1.64815,spk_0,"1 a.m. you just see, right. So this will be the times."
|
32 |
+
29,1.6483333333333334,1.6833333333333331,spk_0,"What's your central, it's your central mountain?"
|
33 |
+
30,1.7053166666666666,1.7405,spk_0,"Oh, yeah, it's already on the verge of being late."
|
34 |
+
31,1.770333333333333,1.79,spk_0,"Yeah, it's tough"
|
35 |
+
32,1.8256666666666668,1.8443333333333327,spk_0,"if you wanna make it,"
|
36 |
+
33,1.85,1.8596666666666664,spk_0,"uh, to"
|
37 |
+
34,1.8691666666666664,1.8919833333333331,spk_0,include Singapore
|
38 |
+
35,1.9009833333333328,1.9178166666666667,spk_0,that area.
|
39 |
+
36,1.955,1.9651666666666667,spk_0,"Yeah. I mean,"
|
40 |
+
37,1.978,2.03,spk_0,"since, since this is late, like later in my evening, I wouldn't,"
|
41 |
+
38,2.03015,2.06115,spk_1,I don't have a ton of opinion about this.
|
42 |
+
39,2.061333333333333,2.0883333333333334,spk_1,"So I don't know if anybody else here does,"
|
43 |
+
40,2.1048333333333336,2.121,spk_1,if that helps
|
44 |
+
41,2.1391333333333336,2.14795,spk_1,them.
|
45 |
+
42,2.178816666666666,2.21115,spk_1,That's good. If more people show up.
|
46 |
+
43,2.2278166666666666,2.2375,spk_0,"Yeah,"
|
47 |
+
44,2.296666666666667,2.342,spk_0,"-- it would make it
|
48 |
+
-- so that it would make it so that these two meetings"
|
49 |
+
45,2.34215,2.401666666666667,spk_1,are exactly 12 hours apart and I could theoretically make either one of them.
|
50 |
+
46,2.4018333333333333,2.46865,spk_1,"Uh, which I suppose is good. I could come to both. But, uh,"
|
51 |
+
47,2.47365,2.52415,spk_1,"-- so
|
52 |
+
-- since we haven't had a lot of experiment experience with that,"
|
53 |
+
48,2.5243333333333333,2.63715,spk_0,"I would suggest just trying a new, a new time and broadcast it and let people know and"
|
54 |
+
49,2.639483333333333,2.6881500000000003,spk_0,go from there and we can tweak it every week as we go.
|
55 |
+
50,2.6958333333333333,2.774833333333333,spk_0,"Um, it seems like one am, would be still too late for Americas."
|
56 |
+
51,2.7845,2.830833333333333,spk_0,So I'm probably gonna be concert proposing
|
57 |
+
52,2.8355,2.8514833333333334,spk_0,midnight
|
58 |
+
53,2.8661666666666665,2.8971666666666667,spk_0,U to see which is like one hour less
|
59 |
+
54,2.9141666666666666,2.933666666666667,spk_0,and we'll see from there.
|
60 |
+
55,2.96115,2.984166666666667,spk_0,Why can't I change?
|
61 |
+
56,3.030333333333333,3.037983333333333,spk_0,Sorry.
|
62 |
+
57,3.081833333333333,3.1068333333333333,spk_0,Um Right.
|
63 |
+
58,3.1133333333333333,3.14415,spk_0,"When you, when you want me to see,"
|
64 |
+
59,3.162983333333333,3.237833333333333,spk_0,seems like it would still be too late for America.
|
65 |
+
60,3.2408166666666665,3.25065,spk_0,But
|
66 |
+
61,3.267316666666667,3.2998333333333334,spk_0,"what is it? Zero AM,"
|
67 |
+
62,3.302483333333333,3.31765,spk_0,is that how you write
|
68 |
+
63,3.327166666666667,3.37965,spk_0,"it? It's 0 12, no, 12:12 a.m."
|
69 |
+
64,3.4021666666666666,3.43115,spk_0,"-- 12 a.m. Right? 12
|
70 |
+
-- AM or"
|
71 |
+
65,3.4353166666666666,3.4578333333333333,spk_1,00 hours
|
72 |
+
66,3.487983333333333,3.500983333333333,spk_0,midnight.
|
73 |
+
67,3.516,3.533666666666667,spk_0,Good to see.
|
74 |
+
68,3.5468166666666665,3.5574833333333333,spk_0,Good
|
75 |
+
69,3.5759833333333333,3.5805,spk_0,and
|
76 |
+
70,3.5925,3.5963166666666666,spk_0,work.
|
77 |
+
71,3.614333333333333,3.6605,spk_0,Uh I'll update the invite.
|
78 |
+
72,3.697666666666666,3.7548166666666662,spk_0,Um He also says we should likely market the A P A call
|
79 |
+
73,3.755,3.8151666666666655,spk_0,more as people may not know that it exists and they can join.
|
80 |
+
74,3.8153166666666665,3.842,spk_0,I can do this when I get back.
|
81 |
+
75,3.8665,3.895483333333333,spk_0,All broadcast
|
82 |
+
76,3.91215,3.9663166666666663,spk_0,the change of the events time
|
83 |
+
77,3.986833333333333,4.030833333333334,spk_0,in Slack channels
|
84 |
+
78,4.043,4.057483333333334,spk_0,people.
|
85 |
+
79,4.06715,4.06765,spk_0,Right?
|
86 |
+
80,4.079816666666667,4.1238166666666665,spk_0,"Yeah, I'll go through the uh it would be nice to go"
|
87 |
+
81,4.1258333333333335,4.139483333333334,spk_0,to the map.
|
88 |
+
82,4.179316666666667,4.218983333333333,spk_0,"Sorry, apologies. We don't have that anymore."
|
89 |
+
83,4.224,4.301666666666667,spk_0,"But I'll uh I know at least two people that are uh in Australia,"
|
90 |
+
84,4.320633333333333,4.39715,spk_0,uh Ash Mackenzie and uh David Kim. Um
|
91 |
+
85,4.408,4.4215,spk_0,"So,"
|
92 |
+
86,4.425816666666667,4.440333333333333,spk_0,um
|
93 |
+
87,4.4495,4.505983333333333,spk_0,so that would be the two people that I'll be pinging. Is there anyone else that
|
94 |
+
88,4.512666666666667,4.52965,spk_0,we should be pinging
|
95 |
+
89,4.5845,4.634316666666667,spk_0,on the top of my head? Those are it. So I'll uh I'll ping them.
|
96 |
+
90,4.637816666666667,4.650666666666667,spk_0,So that's that
|
97 |
+
91,4.65615,4.665483333333333,spk_0,um
|
98 |
+
92,4.690333333333333,4.715983333333334,spk_0,any more thoughts on the A PE C call?
|
99 |
+
93,4.762983333333334,4.7725,spk_0,All right.
|
100 |
+
94,4.780333333333333,4.825666666666667,spk_0,"Um Moving on to the next point, Patrick as well, not attending."
|
101 |
+
95,4.825816666666666,4.9105,spk_0,Um He left a comment about a random thought related to order of priorities.
|
102 |
+
96,4.915483333333333,4.96865,spk_0,"Then Igor, he also left a comment."
|
103 |
+
97,4.973816666666667,4.987316666666667,spk_0,Um
|
104 |
+
98,5.016166666666667,5.04365,spk_0,"Yeah, we had a bit of a discussion there?"
|
105 |
+
99,5.043833333333334,5.099816666666666,spk_0,Um Should we cover that now or should we keep it as synchronous?
|
106 |
+
100,5.131833333333334,5.1595,spk_0,You gonna do you wanna share your views
|
107 |
+
101,5.174166666666666,5.253833333333334,spk_2,"uh keeping it, the synchronous is fine with me? Yeah, I just mentioned that uh"
|
108 |
+
102,5.259816666666667,5.328333333333333,spk_2,probably we need to define our uh the priority.
|
109 |
+
103,5.328483333333334,5.4065,spk_2,"What, what do we mean uh regarding like behind the word priority? Yeah."
|
110 |
+
104,5.40665,5.427483333333333,spk_2,And uh whether
|
111 |
+
105,5.432333333333333,5.441166666666667,spk_2,uh
|
112 |
+
106,5.44715,5.507833333333333,spk_2,"whether we should be firm, firm about uh"
|
113 |
+
107,5.511816666666666,5.586316666666667,spk_2,like whether we want to sacrifice some performance or maintainability or coverage
|
114 |
+
108,5.589483333333334,5.636166666666667,spk_2,uh for the sake of other criteria
|
115 |
+
109,5.65515,5.751316666666667,spk_2,"or not. So, yeah, I suggested to two points either be firm about uh"
|
116 |
+
110,5.75765,5.798166666666667,spk_2,that we don't want to decrease
|
117 |
+
111,5.8014833333333335,5.8815,spk_2,any of the criteria of the metrics only improve them.
|
118 |
+
112,5.887166666666666,5.957333333333334,spk_2,"Or for example, uh we could define the uh flexibility,"
|
119 |
+
113,5.9575,6.0259833333333335,spk_2,how flexible we are about uh sacrificing some of the metrics.
|
120 |
+
114,6.026166666666667,6.0355,spk_2,"For example,"
|
121 |
+
115,6.035666666666667,6.089483333333333,spk_2,I can imagine a scenario of uh removing some
|
122 |
+
116,6.089666666666667,6.1611666666666665,spk_2,"feature for the sake of uh maintainability or performance,"
|
123 |
+
117,6.161316666666667,6.167483333333333,spk_2,but
|
124 |
+
118,6.177983333333334,6.23215,spk_2,"-- it's uh sure it's uh like a product of
|
125 |
+
-- call."
|
126 |
+
119,6.257833333333333,6.28465,spk_0,"Got it. No, that's, that's great."
|
127 |
+
120,6.284816666666667,6.340983333333333,spk_0,And I definitely encourage everybody to read that thread because I feel like it's
|
128 |
+
121,6.350816666666667,6.4009833333333335,spk_0,the kind of things that we face in the future.
|
129 |
+
122,6.401166666666667,6.449666666666666,spk_0,So it's definitely worth giving it some thought.
|
130 |
+
123,6.456833333333333,6.472,spk_0,Um
|
131 |
+
124,6.4889833333333335,6.5085,spk_0,What I propose Igor
|
132 |
+
125,6.511,6.5659833333333335,spk_0,is for the sake of moving this along.
|
133 |
+
126,6.572316666666667,6.649816666666666,spk_0,I'll get an Mr started um for the documentation that's in the works.
|
134 |
+
127,6.65,6.704166666666667,spk_0,Um Phil already has an Mr Up um
|
135 |
+
128,6.709816666666667,6.743333333333333,spk_0,should be merged soon and
|
136 |
+
129,6.753333333333334,6.79215,spk_0,I'll add a little section of our priorities.
|
137 |
+
130,6.792333333333334,6.851666666666667,spk_0,"Um And we'll, we'll just collaborate there."
|
138 |
+
131,6.851816666666666,6.912816666666666,spk_0,"I'll, I'll grab some of your examples uh there."
|
139 |
+
132,6.912983333333333,6.967333333333333,spk_0,"But I think, I think we're leaning more towards the flexible part"
|
140 |
+
133,6.97115,7.0205,spk_0,"because remember, we're always gonna be here to make"
|
141 |
+
134,7.025666666666667,7.056333333333333,spk_0,"the best call for each scenario,"
|
142 |
+
135,7.07,7.123666666666667,spk_0,"but we don't want it to be, we don't wanna be"
|
143 |
+
136,7.137983333333334,7.15765,spk_0,imprisoned
|
144 |
+
137,7.162,7.201666666666666,spk_0,by a theoretical
|
145 |
+
138,7.2095,7.246316666666667,spk_0,restriction that we created out of thin air.
|
146 |
+
139,7.249816666666667,7.304983333333333,spk_0,This is more like to guide us than to restrain
|
147 |
+
140,7.311166666666667,7.330333333333333,spk_0,us. So
|
148 |
+
141,7.342333333333333,7.404166666666667,spk_0,"we always have the ability to make, have a conversation around it."
|
149 |
+
142,7.404333333333334,7.439833333333333,spk_0,"And in a particular part of the coverage,"
|
150 |
+
143,7.439983333333333,7.5,spk_0,accept less coverage if it means that it's more performance.
|
151 |
+
144,7.50715,7.58265,spk_0,But UX and product being OK with that will be part of the conversation for now.
|
152 |
+
145,7.587816666666667,7.617983333333333,spk_0,We just have to write something in the documentation.
|
153 |
+
146,7.61815,7.655333333333333,spk_0,We can iterate later if we feel like it's still not
|
154 |
+
147,7.669333333333333,7.677666666666667,spk_0,"good enough,"
|
155 |
+
148,7.677833333333333,7.735666666666667,spk_0,but I feel like moving to an Mr is probably the best way to start talking about
|
156 |
+
149,7.740483333333334,7.762983333333334,spk_0,the actual wording.
|
157 |
+
150,7.7695,7.788166666666667,spk_0,Uh tweaking the tweaking
|
158 |
+
151,7.790166666666667,7.810666666666666,spk_0,the text that
|
159 |
+
152,7.840483333333333,7.85815,spk_2,sure makes sense.
|
160 |
+
153,7.938983333333333,7.987166666666667,spk_0,"Uh The cough came in as I was asking, does that make sense?"
|
161 |
+
154,7.987316666666667,8.009,spk_0,"And you answered said, thanks."
|
162 |
+
155,8.013666666666667,8.03365,spk_0,Um
|
163 |
+
156,8.039833333333334,8.053483333333334,spk_0,I'll move
|
164 |
+
157,8.069333333333333,8.10615,spk_0,on to create an Mr
|
165 |
+
158,8.151483333333333,8.168483333333333,spk_0,to start
|
166 |
+
159,8.186816666666667,8.19715,spk_0,putting
|
167 |
+
160,8.202833333333333,8.24415,spk_0,this to stone and iterating
|
168 |
+
161,8.249316666666667,8.266483333333333,spk_0,and collaborating.
|
169 |
+
162,8.2965,8.308816666666667,spk_0,"I think,"
|
170 |
+
163,8.338983333333333,8.34215,spk_0,I think
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171 |
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164,8.353483333333333,8.355333333333334,spk_0,its
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165,8.36015,8.3615,spk_0,people.
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173 |
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166,8.400483333333334,8.449666666666667,spk_0,"Oh Cool, cool, cool, cool. Um"
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167,8.472316666666666,8.481333333333334,spk_0,All right.
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175 |
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168,8.486166666666668,8.5345,spk_0,"Let's keep on discussing, I guess, synchronously in the the issue."
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176 |
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169,8.534666666666666,8.5545,spk_0,"If you have more thoughts,"
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177 |
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170,8.560983333333333,8.614,spk_0,"I'll in the meantime, should be moving on to the more in the next day or two"
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171,8.639316666666666,8.660316666666667,spk_0,Igor you have your next point.
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179 |
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172,8.69,8.792316666666666,spk_2,"Yeah. Uh Unfortunately, it's some specific ex example uh rather than uh"
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180 |
+
173,8.798166666666667,8.828333333333333,spk_2,"something related to them,"
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181 |
+
174,8.83315,8.880333333333333,spk_2,how we organize our initiative.
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182 |
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175,8.8805,8.8865,spk_2,"But yeah,"
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183 |
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176,8.886666666666667,8.929166666666667,spk_2,it's about a specific example that we already
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184 |
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177,8.929333333333334,8.97565,spk_2,worked on the performance of this uh previously.
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185 |
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178,8.9775,9.035666666666666,spk_2,"And there's currently some functionality on the back end behind the future,"
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186 |
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179,9.050983333333331,9.120483333333333,spk_2,"but at the same time, it's disabled uh for a while now,"
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187 |
+
180,9.12065,9.198333333333334,spk_2,just because we had uh issues with uh view Synex
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188 |
+
181,9.199483333333331,9.246816666666666,spk_2,highlight uh maybe with some other formats as well.
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189 |
+
182,9.250166666666669,9.324483333333331,spk_2,"So yeah, it's just an as an example of uh"
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190 |
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183,9.329816666666666,9.400816666666667,spk_2,"prioritizing courage and correctness or performance in this case,"
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191 |
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184,9.4035,9.432816666666668,spk_2,but we will probably
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192 |
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185,9.440833333333334,9.50515,spk_2,come back to this example later and see what we can prove.
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193 |
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186,9.587316666666666,9.622333333333334,spk_0,Thanks for sharing that. I think this is
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194 |
+
187,9.62465,9.697483333333333,spk_0,definitely useful to understand I given what we learned with the um
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195 |
+
188,9.700983333333332,9.736666666666666,spk_0,"front end highlighting it definitely,"
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196 |
+
189,9.740666666666666,9.776816666666669,spk_0,definitely tracks because
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197 |
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190,9.782816666666667,9.83515,spk_0,partial highlighting is always gonna be challenging in certain contexts
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198 |
+
191,9.840666666666667,9.854333333333331,spk_0,um
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199 |
+
192,9.86015,9.87565,spk_0,which begs the question.
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200 |
+
193,9.875816666666667,9.884316666666669,spk_0,"So this,"
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201 |
+
194,9.8845,9.949166666666668,spk_0,this came up in the previous discussion earlier today in my one on one with Phil
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202 |
+
195,9.952166666666669,9.96965,spk_0,um
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203 |
+
196,9.993166666666667,10.0095,spk_0,"is,"
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204 |
+
197,10.013483333333332,10.05,spk_0,have we ever looked into
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205 |
+
198,10.062316666666666,10.075983333333332,spk_0,um
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206 |
+
199,10.095316666666667,10.125,spk_0,not highlighting
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207 |
+
200,10.127166666666668,10.168483333333333,spk_0,all of the files in the diff and just doing
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208 |
+
201,10.16865,10.211666666666666,spk_0,that for a certain set of like the initial ones.
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209 |
+
202,10.225,10.259983333333333,spk_0,Uh have you looked into that at all ever?
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210 |
+
203,10.276816666666669,10.3025,spk_0,And to save the um
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211 |
+
204,10.306816666666666,10.364483333333334,spk_0,the work of highlighting the file for when it's actually requested
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212 |
+
205,10.402333333333331,10.422816666666666,spk_0,"-- we looked
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213 |
+
-- at."
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214 |
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206,10.433833333333334,10.5345,spk_2,"-- So uh highlighting the part of the file instead of the whole file.
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215 |
+
-- No, no."
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216 |
+
207,10.534666666666666,10.610666666666669,spk_0,So the idea is that uh imagine we have a diff with 12 files changed.
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217 |
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208,10.624333333333333,10.63115,spk_0,"Sorry,"
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218 |
+
209,10.641483333333332,10.69365,spk_0,let's say that we change one line in 12 files.
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219 |
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210,10.697816666666666,10.736666666666666,spk_0,"The process as far as I understand right now,"
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220 |
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211,10.736833333333331,10.79265,spk_0,we'll have to highlight all of the 12 files first
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221 |
+
212,10.79965,10.857333333333331,spk_0,and then grab this chunk thing that we um
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222 |
+
213,10.862666666666666,10.890666666666666,spk_0,that we need to put in the DS.
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223 |
+
214,10.910833333333333,10.959316666666666,spk_0,What if we didn't do the highlighting for the whole 12 files?
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224 |
+
215,10.9595,11.0025,spk_0,"We just did the highlight on three or four,"
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225 |
+
216,11.00265,11.028166666666667,spk_0,which will be the first ones that will be
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226 |
+
217,11.028333333333334,11.074166666666668,spk_0,in the batch tips being thrown into the browser.
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227 |
+
218,11.078983333333332,11.111833333333331,spk_0,"Uh And then from that moment on,"
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228 |
+
219,11.123816666666666,11.194483333333334,spk_0,we would only be highlighting on demand and cashing it.
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229 |
+
220,11.195316666666669,11.2525,spk_0,Uh The idea there is to alleviate the work
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230 |
+
221,11.263833333333332,11.31315,spk_0,that beckon has to do to start giving
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231 |
+
222,11.315833333333334,11.32865,spk_0,the
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232 |
+
223,11.348816666666666,11.366316666666666,spk_0,um
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233 |
+
224,11.368,11.399816666666666,spk_0,"the results, I guess. So we"
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234 |
+
225,11.413,11.425816666666666,spk_0,um
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235 |
+
226,11.466666666666669,11.536316666666666,spk_0,not doing work up ahead until it's needed. That's the whole overall
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236 |
+
227,11.556816666666666,11.597,spk_0,I think. Have you ever looked into that? Is that even
|
237 |
+
228,11.609666666666667,11.625166666666669,spk_0,meaningful?
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238 |
+
229,11.645316666666666,11.646333333333333,spk_2,Uh
|
239 |
+
230,11.649333333333333,11.729983333333331,spk_2,"Probably probably we had a look at it but uh as it, so to me,"
|
240 |
+
231,11.73015,11.802816666666669,spk_2,it sounds like more like front end dream because um
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241 |
+
232,11.8065,11.815666666666669,spk_2,uh
|
242 |
+
233,11.823816666666668,11.89365,spk_2,it's uh uh everything comes down to fetching the files.
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243 |
+
234,11.893833333333331,11.985666666666669,spk_2,"Yeah, we just fetch uh four files and display them. Yeah. If we scroll further"
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244 |
+
235,11.987666666666666,12.076983333333333,spk_2,"uh further, we uh fetch more files uh regarding the back end. Uh"
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245 |
+
236,12.09015,12.120316666666668,spk_2,"No, probably it's not"
|
246 |
+
237,12.122816666666669,12.157816666666667,spk_2,"feasible not to,"
|
247 |
+
238,12.172483333333334,12.193316666666666,spk_2,"not to highlight,"
|
248 |
+
239,12.207983333333331,12.214666666666666,spk_2,"uh,"
|
249 |
+
240,12.224816666666667,12.270483333333331,spk_2,"I mean, yeah, so it all comes down to front end."
|
250 |
+
241,12.27065,12.314316666666668,spk_2,"Yeah, and fetching the smaller set of files."
|
251 |
+
242,12.314483333333332,12.366833333333334,spk_2,"I don't know whether we consider, consider it before."
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252 |
+
243,12.367,12.432983333333333,spk_2,"But yeah, it's, it's possible. But uh to be honest, I would,"
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253 |
+
244,12.456816666666668,12.486983333333333,spk_2,I wouldn't look at them
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254 |
+
245,12.49015,12.56315,spk_2,"currently. For example, if we're talking about 12 files, currently we fetch"
|
255 |
+
246,12.5755,12.682666666666666,spk_2,the whole content of those 12 files. Yeah. And maybe we should uh consider first
|
256 |
+
247,12.686316666666666,12.7285,spk_2,um avoid at least fetching
|
257 |
+
248,12.73215,12.780816666666666,spk_2,the whole content of 12 files but only fetching
|
258 |
+
249,12.780983333333332,12.82,spk_2,"some limited set of data because for example,"
|
259 |
+
250,12.820166666666667,12.891,spk_2,"if those files are uh one megabyte or 10 megabyte each,"
|
260 |
+
251,12.89115,12.9625,spk_2,so we will still fetch uh the whole file which is uh
|
261 |
+
252,12.96765,12.999333333333333,spk_2,"yeah, which is not so performant."
|
262 |
+
253,12.999816666666666,13.03515,spk_2,"But uh as we discussed before,"
|
263 |
+
254,13.035316666666668,13.125983333333334,spk_2,"it's done in order to provide the context for the for the whole file, for example, uh"
|
264 |
+
255,13.128166666666669,13.218483333333332,spk_2,"as for the view files uh currently that we have an issue, um the script"
|
265 |
+
256,13.231333333333334,13.278333333333332,spk_2,is somewhere um higher
|
266 |
+
257,13.282666666666668,13.306983333333331,spk_2,in the beginning of the file.
|
267 |
+
258,13.309666666666669,13.405983333333332,spk_2,And uh so uh our highlighter doesn't understand whether it's html or
|
268 |
+
259,13.407666666666668,13.454666666666666,spk_2,javascript that it needs to highlight.
|
269 |
+
260,13.458983333333334,13.467833333333331,spk_2,So
|
270 |
+
261,13.479333333333331,13.560833333333331,spk_2,um something to have a look and definitely there's room for improvement.
|
271 |
+
262,13.560983333333333,13.585316666666667,spk_2,"But yeah, it should be discussed"
|
272 |
+
263,13.611983333333333,13.626983333333332,spk_2,and investigated.
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273 |
+
264,13.635833333333334,13.645,spk_2,OK.
|
274 |
+
265,13.66315,13.739483333333334,spk_0,"So you, you're saying that a lot, all of this work is triggered by the front end call."
|
275 |
+
266,13.739666666666666,13.793483333333333,spk_0,So essentially we do the highlights and all that stuff. If it's not cached
|
276 |
+
267,13.79865,13.825816666666666,spk_0,when the front and ask for it.
|
277 |
+
268,13.8305,13.907983333333334,spk_2,"Uh Your, your suggestion is driven by a front end call. Uh"
|
278 |
+
269,13.919166666666667,14.010833333333334,spk_2,"Well, regarding my uh improvement, I mean regarding not fetching the blocks,"
|
279 |
+
270,14.014483333333333,14.095316666666667,spk_2,"it's uh backend driven because everything happens on, on backend, on backend,"
|
280 |
+
271,14.095483333333334,14.138316666666666,spk_2,we fetch the whole content of the files.
|
281 |
+
272,14.138483333333332,14.186833333333333,spk_2,"Uh because currently we highlight the files, the DS,"
|
282 |
+
273,14.19,14.2045,spk_2,we highlight the des
|
283 |
+
274,14.2085,14.2355,spk_2,on backend and then
|
284 |
+
275,14.238,14.258833333333332,spk_2,return it to front
|
285 |
+
276,14.260666666666667,14.266316666666668,spk_2,end.
|
286 |
+
277,14.273333333333332,14.324816666666669,spk_2,"And yeah, uh like fetching the files is back"
|
287 |
+
278,14.3265,14.368483333333334,spk_2,driven. Uh Your idea is front
|
288 |
+
279,14.37065,14.381666666666666,spk_2,end driven.
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289 |
+
280,14.42465,14.45365,spk_0,OK? We're probably gonna have
|
290 |
+
281,14.455666666666666,14.455816666666667,spk_0,"a,"
|
291 |
+
282,14.459316666666666,14.544316666666669,spk_0,I know that we have some documentation already and I'm looking at it uh right now for
|
292 |
+
283,14.546,14.56615,spk_0,like the um
|
293 |
+
284,14.5785,14.60815,spk_0,I'm looking at the documentation that has been updated
|
294 |
+
285,14.608333333333333,14.655666666666669,spk_0,recently that has all all the details there.
|
295 |
+
286,14.664666666666667,14.6795,spk_0,So
|
296 |
+
287,14.683983333333334,14.722,spk_0,"front end call, dispatch, it pillows,"
|
297 |
+
288,14.722166666666666,14.743483333333334,spk_0,the DS and all that stuff and that's where
|
298 |
+
289,14.74365,14.77765,spk_0,it does a lot of like calculating un foldable D
|
299 |
+
290,14.7795,14.831333333333331,spk_0,lines and all that stuff in specific here.
|
300 |
+
291,14.843483333333332,14.87465,spk_0,We see that
|
301 |
+
292,14.88115,14.893833333333331,spk_0,um
|
302 |
+
293,14.912833333333332,14.92,spk_0,you get
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303 |
+
294,14.922,14.925333333333333,spk_0,up D
|
304 |
+
295,14.927333333333332,14.98715,spk_0,highlight cash kind of thing is over here once we're writing to the cash.
|
305 |
+
296,15.001333333333331,15.0105,spk_0,But
|
306 |
+
297,15.027166666666666,15.073816666666668,spk_0,part of part of this conversation is probably because
|
307 |
+
298,15.074,15.1355,spk_0,we would like to speed up the delivery of DS
|
308 |
+
299,15.147166666666667,15.2035,spk_0,and potentially postpone the the workload of
|
309 |
+
300,15.20365,15.248,spk_0,doing the highlight which could be done
|
310 |
+
301,15.273166666666668,15.308666666666667,spk_0,"um with the DS already on the page,"
|
311 |
+
302,15.308833333333334,15.380816666666666,spk_0,we could first display them not highlighted and then highlight them at a later stage
|
312 |
+
303,15.38815,15.410316666666668,spk_0,when the user scrolls to it.
|
313 |
+
304,15.418,15.45815,spk_0,"Um So we're probably gonna be,"
|
314 |
+
305,15.458333333333334,15.5355,spk_0,uh it's gonna be useful to have one particular discussion exclusively about
|
315 |
+
306,15.551166666666669,15.592483333333334,spk_0,watching as we could do about the highlighting. But
|
316 |
+
307,15.602816666666667,15.62,spk_0,um
|
317 |
+
308,15.631816666666667,15.656816666666666,spk_0,I'm not sure we're ready for it yet.
|
318 |
+
309,15.661833333333334,15.673166666666669,spk_0,Um
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319 |
+
310,15.70815,15.717166666666667,spk_0,OK.
|
320 |
+
311,15.73915,15.78015,spk_0,Anybody has any more thoughts or questions about that.
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321 |
+
312,15.88715,15.89665,spk_0,OK.
|
322 |
+
313,15.913833333333333,15.951333333333332,spk_0,Um Let's keep tracking that uh
|
323 |
+
314,15.956666666666669,16.00065,spk_0,Or at least keep discussing this because I feel like
|
324 |
+
315,16.0275,16.077166666666667,spk_0,while the line by line next highlighting might not be
|
325 |
+
316,16.080816666666667,16.097166666666666,spk_0,"the way to go,"
|
326 |
+
317,16.1025,16.13315,spk_0,there might be some lessons there. Um
|
327 |
+
318,16.158833333333334,16.180983333333334,spk_0,"You were for your,"
|
328 |
+
319,16.199,16.21965,spk_0,"for your context,"
|
329 |
+
320,16.2265,16.282816666666665,spk_0,it's still not very clear how much of
|
330 |
+
321,16.282983333333334,16.332666666666668,spk_0,a service side rendered approach we'll be employing
|
331 |
+
322,16.352166666666665,16.376166666666666,spk_0,and that will change a lot of
|
332 |
+
323,16.394166666666667,16.467,spk_0,"these decisions, right? If we end up deciding to do the the service side rendering,"
|
333 |
+
324,16.4775,16.493166666666667,spk_0,um
|
334 |
+
325,16.496333333333332,16.58315,spk_0,we'll definitely need to prioritize a lot of these um processes to be back and
|
335 |
+
326,16.598333333333333,16.656666666666666,spk_0,"uh run, run in the back and, and not leverage in the front end, but we'll,"
|
336 |
+
327,16.656816666666668,16.67065,spk_0,we'll discuss that.
|
337 |
+
328,16.694316666666666,16.721816666666665,spk_0,Cool Thomas. Do you wanna take your point?
|
338 |
+
329,16.734833333333334,16.745166666666666,spk_0,I'll be right back.
|
339 |
+
330,16.755333333333333,16.78815,spk_1,"Yeah. Um I just wanted to,"
|
340 |
+
331,16.8005,16.870316666666668,spk_1,I wasn't sure exactly what we needed to output from these meetings
|
341 |
+
332,16.870483333333333,16.932983333333333,spk_1,in this quarter or whatever in terms of the actual workflow document.
|
342 |
+
333,16.93315,16.950333333333333,spk_1,So I was just asking that
|
343 |
+
334,16.957983333333335,17.065,spk_1,"uh I see there that Phil has created an Mr for that, which I believe is"
|
344 |
+
335,17.07015,17.144333333333332,spk_1,"I think it's the full output that we need to do. So, I don't know, I don't know."
|
345 |
+
336,17.156666666666666,17.23966666666667,spk_1,"Like I said, in my note, I'm still trying to parse the, the workflow like page. Um"
|
346 |
+
337,17.243833333333335,17.289133333333332,spk_1,But I'm not sure what all we need to include in this
|
347 |
+
338,17.293466666666667,17.307166666666667,spk_1,because like
|
348 |
+
339,17.313,17.337833333333332,spk_1,"I'm focusing sort of,"
|
349 |
+
340,17.338,17.377333333333333,spk_1,we actually a lot of our conversations are around technical stuff.
|
350 |
+
341,17.3775,17.415816666666668,spk_1,Like how are we gonna do this or what can we do?
|
351 |
+
342,17.417983333333332,17.442,spk_1,"And I don't know, like,"
|
352 |
+
343,17.444,17.49266666666667,spk_1,"do we need to document this in that workflow document or is this,"
|
353 |
+
344,17.492816666666666,17.513,spk_1,is this something that's higher level?
|
354 |
+
345,17.513166666666667,17.537666666666667,spk_1,I just don't really know exactly what
|
355 |
+
346,17.5485,17.57133333333333,spk_1,"the guidelines are here,"
|
356 |
+
347,17.638,17.667,spk_0,right? So um
|
357 |
+
348,17.671166666666668,17.72615,spk_0,Phil has already started the the actual document which is
|
358 |
+
349,17.726316666666666,17.763983333333332,spk_0,a mark on file that will be put putting there.
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359 |
+
350,17.770316666666666,17.82133333333333,spk_0,"Uh And then I guess everything that's useful to implement,"
|
360 |
+
351,17.8215,17.854166666666668,spk_0,it needs to be linked there.
|
361 |
+
352,17.854333333333333,17.863,spk_0,At least
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362 |
+
353,17.875333333333334,17.89565,spk_0,anybody has any other thoughts.
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363 |
+
354,17.927833333333332,17.958833333333335,spk_3,"Yeah, I think that's right. So we decided on"
|
364 |
+
355,17.975666666666665,17.97615,spk_3,if
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365 |
+
356,17.980816666666666,17.997816666666665,spk_3,I rent and we would
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366 |
+
357,18.01565,18.05433333333333,spk_3,"talk about that in that document, I presume,"
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367 |
+
358,18.076316666666667,18.103316666666668,spk_3,"I guess I should have everything,"
|
368 |
+
359,18.107316666666662,18.157316666666667,spk_3,"the whole implementing implementation details inside of it,"
|
369 |
+
360,18.198166666666665,18.226983333333333,spk_3,whatever we link to issues or other than
|
370 |
+
361,18.2355,18.25,spk_3,whatever that's easier.
|
371 |
+
362,18.336816666666667,18.36683333333333,spk_3,"But yeah, there's a lot to read about the whole"
|
372 |
+
363,18.373666666666665,18.37665,spk_3,thing.
|
373 |
+
364,18.388,18.3945,spk_3,"Yeah, I,"
|
374 |
+
365,18.394666666666662,18.467816666666668,spk_3,I kind of skipped most of it and had to call it done and hope that he could tell me all.
|
375 |
+
366,18.467983333333333,18.473166666666668,spk_1,OK?
|
376 |
+
367,18.49148333333333,18.551816666666667,spk_1,"That sounds good. The document is like it's not too long, it's just like"
|
377 |
+
368,18.55815,18.621166666666667,spk_1,it's hard for me to pull action items out of it. Like I understand the concept.
|
378 |
+
369,18.62133333333333,18.651816666666665,spk_1,I just don't really get like what it's trying to tell me.
|
379 |
+
370,18.66565,18.693316666666668,spk_1,"Um OK, that sounds good."
|
380 |
+
371,18.713816666666663,18.78665,spk_1,Um My other point is I created a new
|
381 |
+
372,18.788816666666666,18.807,spk_1,"issue, which is"
|
382 |
+
373,18.81165,18.82783333333333,spk_1,"one of those things where I'm like,"
|
383 |
+
374,18.828,18.86798333333333,spk_1,"I don't know if this is gonna be part of the architecture, work flow or not."
|
384 |
+
375,18.869983333333334,18.87933333333333,spk_1,Um
|
385 |
+
376,18.8835,18.932166666666667,spk_1,But as we were talking about metrics and
|
386 |
+
377,18.932316666666665,18.972816666666667,spk_1,"uh like accessibility and that kind of stuff,"
|
387 |
+
378,18.973,19.014316666666662,spk_1,it seemed like uh what our definition of done
|
388 |
+
379,19.01448333333333,19.062833333333334,spk_1,is is gonna be slightly different than like metrics.
|
389 |
+
380,19.063,19.09115,spk_1,"And so I created an issue for that for us to like,"
|
390 |
+
381,19.091316666666668,19.125333333333334,spk_1,define what our definition of done is.
|
391 |
+
382,19.13,19.138816666666667,spk_1,Um
|
392 |
+
383,19.14515,19.17015,spk_1,"Because we have metrics, we can track,"
|
393 |
+
384,19.17031666666667,19.217166666666667,spk_1,we have like the desire to do accessibility like
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394 |
+
385,19.21733333333333,19.26565,spk_1,"as a guaranteed boolean like yes or no,"
|
395 |
+
386,19.267166666666668,19.30883333333333,spk_1,"but then like, how do we define when work is done?"
|
396 |
+
387,19.309,19.40348333333333,spk_1,"It, does it meet metrics 100% of the time? Is it 70 p 75 or whatever, that kind of stuff?"
|
397 |
+
388,19.40365,19.408666666666665,spk_1,So
|
398 |
+
389,19.41215,19.447316666666666,spk_1,um uh feel free to contribute there.
|
399 |
+
390,19.45148333333333,19.48515,spk_1,"I put two things in the description. I think they're,"
|
400 |
+
391,19.494333333333334,19.553316666666667,spk_1,they're uh guaranteed things and then we have to define what
|
401 |
+
392,19.55348333333333,19.60148333333333,spk_1,"they are because I said meets our technical uh metrics,"
|
402 |
+
393,19.60165,19.62665,spk_1,but we haven't really defined those yet.
|
403 |
+
394,19.626816666666667,19.63133333333333,spk_1,So
|
404 |
+
395,19.638816666666667,19.648666666666667,spk_1,um feel
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405 |
+
396,19.650666666666663,19.67215,spk_1,free to contribute wherever.
|
406 |
+
397,19.725166666666667,19.74383333333333,spk_0,Cool. Thanks Thomas.
|
407 |
+
398,19.744,19.78783333333333,spk_0,"Uh I added a note here just because the way I see it,"
|
408 |
+
399,19.788,19.83183333333333,spk_0,"a lot of these discussions about the meaningful metrics,"
|
409 |
+
400,19.832,19.85683333333333,spk_0,the defining maintainability.
|
410 |
+
401,19.85933333333333,19.916833333333333,spk_0,All of the outcome of those discussions will basically be
|
411 |
+
402,19.917,19.97815,spk_0,sections in that document that Phil is creating right now.
|
412 |
+
403,19.983666666666668,20.054166666666667,spk_0,"And in the end, what we'll have is exactly a guiding document for"
|
413 |
+
404,20.057816666666668,20.092816666666668,spk_0,this project. What will be the benchmark?
|
414 |
+
405,20.092983333333333,20.12815,spk_0,"Sorry, what will be the budgets that we have to apply?"
|
415 |
+
406,20.128316666666667,20.197816666666668,spk_0,Um abide to and all that stuff will be in the document there
|
416 |
+
407,20.20798333333333,20.233833333333333,spk_0,to guide the implementation.
|
417 |
+
408,20.234,20.290816666666668,spk_0,"and hopefully by the end of it, everything will be cleared up"
|
418 |
+
409,20.29383333333333,20.322816666666668,spk_0,and not be like a TBD.
|
419 |
+
410,20.33783333333333,20.34315,spk_0,Yeah.
|
420 |
+
411,20.363333333333333,20.37248333333333,spk_0,Hm
|
421 |
+
412,20.37933333333333,20.4105,spk_0,"Yeah, thanks for starting. This is definitely"
|
422 |
+
413,20.415816666666668,20.46215,spk_0,something that could be a little bit more specific to uh
|
423 |
+
414,20.462316666666663,20.496983333333333,spk_0,us as we want to be a little bit more strict
|
424 |
+
415,20.503816666666665,20.574316666666668,spk_0,um than the overall GITLA project. I feel like this is definitely gonna be useful
|
425 |
+
416,20.578316666666662,20.60565,spk_0,in the end. So thanks for that.
|
426 |
+
417,20.66133333333333,20.668316666666662,spk_0,"Cool,"
|
427 |
+
418,20.699816666666667,20.7045,spk_0,you go.
|
428 |
+
419,20.74515,20.79748333333333,spk_2,"Uh Yeah, I have noticed that Patrick mentioned that uh"
|
429 |
+
420,20.79948333333333,20.8275,spk_2,"she won't be,"
|
430 |
+
421,20.829666666666668,20.886816666666668,spk_2,"she won't attend uh any of the meeting uh some of the meetings,"
|
431 |
+
422,20.886983333333333,20.94748333333333,spk_2,so I decided to mention as well that I will be off next next week.
|
432 |
+
423,20.951,21.02615,spk_2,"So yeah, nothing important. Just uh yeah, I'll be off for the next meeting."
|
433 |
+
424,21.14698333333333,21.2025,spk_0,"Cool. Thank you, Igor Enjoy the time off. Um"
|
434 |
+
425,21.20565,21.2885,spk_0,"I had a last point here uh last minute because I wanted like last time we spoke,"
|
435 |
+
426,21.28865,21.327166666666667,spk_0,um we were targeting to have
|
436 |
+
427,21.338,21.354333333333333,spk_0,captured
|
437 |
+
428,21.360666666666667,21.423666666666666,spk_0,uh the way that the gifts are rendered calculated
|
438 |
+
429,21.438983333333333,21.45,spk_0,um
|
439 |
+
430,21.47465,21.49183333333333,spk_0,um
|
440 |
+
431,21.505,21.57133333333333,spk_0,"that we do today on, on all of the areas that we have this today."
|
441 |
+
432,21.575166666666668,21.63498333333333,spk_0,I want to do a quick check on where we are about
|
442 |
+
433,21.647316666666665,21.686166666666665,spk_0,that. So essentially
|
443 |
+
434,21.721,21.761983333333333,spk_0,these are the four categories I think.
|
444 |
+
435,21.77615,21.79315,spk_0,"I mean, there's still"
|
445 |
+
436,21.79515,21.84915,spk_0,"giddily somewhere in there, but I all include that as back end"
|
446 |
+
437,21.8655,21.873,spk_0,for now. So
|
447 |
+
438,21.88665,21.9,spk_0,I can say
|
448 |
+
439,21.90365,21.91165,spk_0,"I was,"
|
449 |
+
440,21.919,21.975666666666665,spk_1,I was supposed to do that work to convert Phil's uh exra
|
450 |
+
441,21.98966666666667,22.057316666666665,spk_1,thing to Mermaid and I completely forgot. So that's not done. Sorry.
|
451 |
+
442,22.075166666666668,22.15748333333333,spk_0,"-- Uh All right. So today
|
452 |
+
-- will be my is like a big catch up day. So I'm trying to,"
|
453 |
+
443,22.16733333333333,22.188816666666668,spk_1,I'll probably get to that today.
|
454 |
+
444,22.21933333333333,22.22648333333333,spk_0,Yes.
|
455 |
+
445,22.22665,22.278316666666665,spk_0,"And I have to remind you like we don't have to ha we don't,"
|
456 |
+
446,22.27848333333333,22.32048333333333,spk_0,we don't want it to be perfect.
|
457 |
+
447,22.321,22.367166666666662,spk_0,You want it to be done essentially. So
|
458 |
+
448,22.37398333333333,22.419816666666662,spk_0,it's college draw migration and started.
|
459 |
+
449,22.443483333333333,22.44383333333333,spk_2,I
|
460 |
+
450,22.4505,22.4875,spk_2,"-- think
|
461 |
+
-- if I'm, if I'm recalling correct,"
|
462 |
+
451,22.487666666666662,22.536483333333333,spk_1,"I think Amy had started converting this to Mermaid, hadn't she?"
|
463 |
+
452,22.55433333333333,22.56365,spk_0,You wanted
|
464 |
+
453,22.567666666666668,22.59915,spk_0,to have it converted? I saw
|
465 |
+
454,22.604166666666668,22.615816666666667,spk_1,"a,"
|
466 |
+
455,22.619816666666665,22.686,spk_1,"I don't know where it is, but I gotta find it. I saw a collapse like a details collapse."
|
467 |
+
456,22.686166666666665,22.739316666666667,spk_1,And inside of that is a bunch of mermaid stuff. And
|
468 |
+
457,22.741666666666667,22.77733333333333,spk_1,uh I think it's related to this.
|
469 |
+
458,22.783666666666665,22.831333333333333,spk_1,"It's not done, but I I'm pretty sure it is this."
|
470 |
+
459,22.83715,22.91398333333333,spk_0,"Well, if it is good, that's good luck for you. But if it's not, you have to do it anyway."
|
471 |
+
460,22.91415,22.958666666666662,spk_0,"So, but yeah, please take a look at it soon. So we can"
|
472 |
+
461,22.9605,23.003816666666665,spk_0,"because what I want, what I want is to have as soon as we have."
|
473 |
+
462,23.00398333333333,23.041833333333333,spk_0,"I know uh we'll, we'll check the other sections"
|
474 |
+
463,23.04683333333333,23.09565,spk_0,as soon as we have these. We should all get
|
475 |
+
464,23.1045,23.115,spk_0,like
|
476 |
+
465,23.126816666666667,23.132483333333333,spk_0,a P
|
477 |
+
466,23.136,23.167816666666667,spk_0,"to say, listen, documentations is ready,"
|
478 |
+
467,23.16798333333333,23.222483333333333,spk_0,go take a look and then we'll chat about it because
|
479 |
+
468,23.225666666666665,23.28,spk_0,we'll have to have a sync discussion about or a sync or a sync
|
480 |
+
469,23.282,23.2925,spk_0,discussion
|
481 |
+
470,23.305316666666663,23.355166666666666,spk_0,about how we extract the patterns that match
|
482 |
+
471,23.357,23.42716666666667,spk_0,"all, all things. But anyway, so that's the status of code view, front end Thomas."
|
483 |
+
472,23.427333333333333,23.471666666666668,spk_0,Thank you so much. Let's hope to have it done in the next couple of days.
|
484 |
+
473,23.482316666666662,23.51631666666667,spk_0,Uh Who else was to provide an update?
|
485 |
+
474,23.536166666666663,23.546333333333333,spk_4,Uh
|
486 |
+
475,23.5485,23.581666666666667,spk_4,"Yeah, I did start with the,"
|
487 |
+
476,23.5905,23.65965,spk_4,the source code content. Um I added the um
|
488 |
+
477,23.66398333333333,23.723,spk_4,the diagrams for compare branches and repository commit.
|
489 |
+
478,23.742,23.75365,spk_4,Um
|
490 |
+
479,23.76148333333333,23.81365,spk_4,They're pretty simple because they both Hamel based.
|
491 |
+
480,23.813816666666668,23.90598333333333,spk_4,Um The only difference really is on the repository we requested um
|
492 |
+
481,23.910833333333333,23.935666666666663,spk_4,The diffs asynchronously.
|
493 |
+
482,23.957166666666662,24.00548333333333,spk_4,That's really the only notable difference uh
|
494 |
+
483,24.009816666666666,24.022816666666667,spk_4,"between them,"
|
495 |
+
484,24.038,24.07198333333333,spk_4,"but it's in the, it's in that issue."
|
496 |
+
485,24.07865,24.094666666666665,spk_4,"If you wanted to,"
|
497 |
+
486,24.102166666666665,24.12265,spk_4,anyone wants to take a look.
|
498 |
+
487,24.134,24.17698333333333,spk_0,I'm guessing that this is what you're talking about. Jack.
|
499 |
+
488,24.182316666666665,24.20115,spk_0,That's the one. Yeah.
|
500 |
+
489,24.22133333333333,24.23966666666667,spk_0,"All right, cool."
|
501 |
+
490,24.24748333333333,24.278983333333333,spk_0,"We'll definitely take a look at it and,"
|
502 |
+
491,24.279166666666665,24.337666666666667,spk_0,"and if you have any questions or clarifications that we need,"
|
503 |
+
492,24.340333333333334,24.40165,spk_0,feel free to ping Jack on this thread and um
|
504 |
+
493,24.40765,24.44233333333333,spk_0,we'll take it from there. Right? More updates.
|
505 |
+
494,24.582166666666662,24.671666666666667,spk_2,"Yeah, I saw that um uh Jack did it to them. Um Front end architecture."
|
506 |
+
495,24.6815,24.713816666666663,spk_2,"Uh And yeah, it looked"
|
507 |
+
496,24.716833333333334,24.719166666666663,spk_2,to uh
|
508 |
+
497,24.72265,24.77533333333333,spk_2,"um it seemed to me that uh it's, it's enough,"
|
509 |
+
498,24.7755,24.85548333333333,spk_2,but probably I should add more details here if we're interested about um uh
|
510 |
+
499,24.85933333333333,24.86598333333333,spk_2,gli
|
511 |
+
500,24.87183333333333,24.926316666666665,spk_2,"involvement into this. Then uh Yeah,"
|
512 |
+
501,24.93065,25.005983333333333,spk_2,I'll add details or maybe um either me
|
513 |
+
502,25.00815,25.02166666666667,spk_2,"or Sean,"
|
514 |
+
503,25.025916666666667,25.06525,spk_2,we'll ask someone from the team to
|
515 |
+
504,25.067416666666663,25.10425,spk_2,read the diagram. Yeah. And
|
516 |
+
505,25.107566666666667,25.115583333333333,spk_2,so
|
517 |
+
506,25.120066666666663,25.18923333333333,spk_2,"-- I'll have the update yet today or
|
518 |
+
-- tomorrow. I think, I think it would still be useful,"
|
519 |
+
507,25.194416666666665,25.25658333333333,spk_0,"especially as we're like, especially when we're talking about"
|
520 |
+
508,25.261416666666666,25.291566666666668,spk_0,front and architecture changes.
|
521 |
+
509,25.29175,25.35823333333333,spk_0,We're not really clear about what that means for you all in the back end for
|
522 |
+
510,25.3619,25.3679,spk_0,"gy,"
|
523 |
+
511,25.373083333333334,25.408916666666663,spk_0,"like for example, this partial things,"
|
524 |
+
512,25.418233333333333,25.492733333333334,spk_0,would that speed things up significantly or would still not make um
|
525 |
+
513,25.503316666666667,25.55115,spk_0,"that much of a difference. So we, we just want to"
|
526 |
+
514,25.558666666666667,25.597483333333333,spk_0,uh um understand and I'll just
|
527 |
+
515,25.61615,25.638816666666667,spk_0,to um
|
528 |
+
516,25.643316666666667,25.66865,spk_0,make that a little bit more specific
|
529 |
+
517,25.678,25.707,spk_0,"when we're requesting the DS,"
|
530 |
+
518,25.7135,25.767,spk_0,we could distinguish between the gifts that are visible now to the
|
531 |
+
519,25.767166666666668,25.800833333333333,spk_0,user and the ones that are not visible to the user.
|
532 |
+
520,25.801,25.877333333333333,spk_0,"So we could cut some corners and render those much quicker because then later on,"
|
533 |
+
521,25.8775,25.900166666666667,spk_0,we'll refresh them
|
534 |
+
522,25.902666666666665,25.93133333333333,spk_0,for the real thing later on.
|
535 |
+
523,25.937666666666665,25.998666666666665,spk_0,"Uh which means that the request to get, it could be much lighter"
|
536 |
+
524,26.005166666666668,26.03898333333333,spk_0,if we don't need all the information that we
|
537 |
+
525,26.043316666666662,26.067816666666666,spk_0,might need later. So
|
538 |
+
526,26.07248333333333,26.126483333333333,spk_0,"a lot of these decisions are like full stack, they go from the beginning to the end."
|
539 |
+
527,26.12665,26.146,spk_0,"So yeah, we're very useful."
|
540 |
+
528,26.1505,26.16398333333333,spk_0,Um
|
541 |
+
529,26.20615,26.26148333333333,spk_0,Thanks and uh the code review back. And
|
542 |
+
530,26.26333333333333,26.33416666666667,spk_0,um as far as I understand they have been being there's a couple of meg
|
543 |
+
531,26.336483333333334,26.355166666666666,spk_0,requests being merged
|
544 |
+
532,26.384816666666666,26.44148333333333,spk_0,"and there's the one in flight uh again, Patrick absence,"
|
545 |
+
533,26.484,26.50965,spk_0,but from what I can see
|
546 |
+
534,26.54148333333333,26.6045,spk_0,several MRMRS are being
|
547 |
+
535,26.60683333333333,26.637833333333333,spk_0,merged slash reviewed
|
548 |
+
536,26.6485,26.67415,spk_0,into this page.
|
549 |
+
537,26.6885,26.696166666666667,spk_0,"Sorry,"
|
550 |
+
538,26.7175,26.749816666666668,spk_0,I shouldn't put the hash there.
|
551 |
+
539,26.764316666666662,26.863983333333334,spk_0,Um And that's what I think is the latest update from the back end for code review.
|
552 |
+
540,26.86415,26.933333333333334,spk_0,"Um In this particular sense, the diagrams are the ones that are really tiny,"
|
553 |
+
541,26.945833333333333,27.019,spk_0,"but we probably want to take a look at that, try to understand everything that, that"
|
554 |
+
542,27.03098333333333,27.11766666666667,spk_0,that is over there so we could potentially um understand that better. And um
|
555 |
+
543,27.145316666666663,27.18433333333333,spk_0,"yeah, I guess it was the flow section but"
|
556 |
+
544,27.19115,27.20965,spk_0,I put it to the whole page.
|
557 |
+
545,27.23915,27.248166666666663,spk_0,Cool.
|
558 |
+
546,27.24833333333333,27.33115,spk_0,Uh So let's uh it feels like we're getting to once we have Thomas's uh
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559 |
+
547,27.331333333333333,27.415816666666668,spk_0,"migration of Bill's diagram and once we have the back end from source code,"
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560 |
+
548,27.415983333333333,27.47083333333333,spk_0,it feels like we have a good spot to just overview everything together
|
561 |
+
549,27.474816666666666,27.54065,spk_0,first synchronous and then have a synchronous discussion about it. So um
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562 |
+
550,27.555,27.62933333333333,spk_0,"thanks everybody for, for that um update anybody has any other points."
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563 |
+
551,27.77465,27.784983333333333,spk_0,Cool.
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564 |
+
552,27.791316666666667,27.80433333333333,spk_0,Um
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565 |
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553,27.825,27.884,spk_0,"So I'll, I'm just taking a look about what we need. We need to get done."
|
566 |
+
554,27.884166666666665,27.952666666666666,spk_0,"I'll update the Thursday call, broadcast the change on Slack"
|
567 |
+
555,27.96283333333333,28.009166666666665,spk_0,"Thomas will fish off,"
|
568 |
+
556,28.032816666666665,28.118316666666665,spk_0,"I'll, I'll start an Mr to document the priorities in the Mr uh in the markdown file"
|
569 |
+
557,28.1355,28.1505,spk_0,and
|
570 |
+
558,28.15883333333333,28.215333333333334,spk_0,Igor will com complete or find someone to complete the back end
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571 |
+
559,28.22415,28.309166666666663,spk_0,"of um details. And yeah, Thomas will update the migration of that."
|
572 |
+
560,28.30933333333333,28.32848333333333,spk_0,So I feel like we have
|
573 |
+
561,28.330483333333333,28.33065,spk_0,a
|
574 |
+
562,28.346,28.369,spk_0,"cool list of things to,"
|
575 |
+
563,28.369166666666665,28.4105,spk_0,to get done on and let's participate in the
|
576 |
+
564,28.410666666666668,28.454833333333333,spk_0,discussion of the definition of done everybody so we can
|
577 |
+
565,28.471,28.505983333333333,spk_0,get it in a place to get merged to.
|
578 |
+
566,28.525666666666663,28.534166666666668,spk_0,"All right,"
|
579 |
+
567,28.536,28.536166666666663,spk_0,a
|
580 |
+
568,28.540816666666668,28.574316666666668,spk_0,"bit chaotic, but uh we got it through."
|
581 |
+
569,28.574483333333333,28.653316666666665,spk_0,"Thank, thank you so much for, for, for everybody's input and um"
|
582 |
+
570,28.657316666666667,28.69298333333333,spk_0,"yeah, I'll see you either Thursday or"
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583 |
+
571,28.704666666666668,28.717,spk_0,"Tuesday,"
|
584 |
+
572,28.720316666666665,28.73098333333333,spk_0,I guess.
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585 |
+
573,28.76415,28.786,spk_0,All right. Take care everybody
|
586 |
+
574,28.7905,28.80365,spk_0,too. Thanks everybody.
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587 |
+
575,28.8125,28.82248333333333,spk_0,Thank you.
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,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
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0,21.14698333,21.2025,spk_0,"Cool. Thank you, Igor Enjoy the time off. Um"
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3 |
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1,21.20565,21.2885,spk_0,"I had a last point here uh last minute because I wanted like last time we spoke,"
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4 |
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2,21.28865,21.32716667,spk_0,um we were targeting to have
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3,21.338,21.35433333,spk_0,captured
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4,21.36066667,21.42366667,spk_0,uh the way that the gifts are rendered calculated
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7 |
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5,21.43898333,21.45,spk_0,um
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8 |
+
6,21.47465,21.49183333,spk_0,um
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9 |
+
7,21.505,21.57133333,spk_0,"that we do today on, on all of the areas that we have this today."
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10 |
+
8,21.57516667,21.63498333,spk_0,I want to do a quick check on where we are about
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11 |
+
9,21.64731667,21.68616667,spk_0,that. So essentially
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+
10,21.721,21.76198333,spk_0,these are the four categories I think.
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+
11,21.77615,21.79315,spk_0,"I mean, there's still"
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+
12,21.79515,21.84915,spk_0,"giddily somewhere in there, but I all include that as back end"
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15 |
+
13,21.8655,21.873,spk_0,for now. So
|
16 |
+
14,21.88665,21.9,spk_0,I can say
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17 |
+
15,21.90365,21.91165,spk_0,"I was,"
|
18 |
+
16,21.919,21.97566667,spk_1,I was supposed to do that work to convert Phil's uh exra
|
19 |
+
17,21.98966667,22.05731667,spk_1,thing to Mermaid and I completely forgot. So that's not done. Sorry.
|
20 |
+
18,22.07516667,22.15748333,spk_0,"-- Uh All right. So today
|
21 |
+
-- will be my is like a big catch up day. So I'm trying to,"
|
22 |
+
19,22.16733333,22.18881667,spk_1,I'll probably get to that today.
|
23 |
+
20,22.21933333,22.22648333,spk_0,Yes.
|
24 |
+
21,22.22665,22.27831667,spk_0,"And I have to remind you like we don't have to ha we don't,"
|
25 |
+
22,22.27848333,22.32048333,spk_0,we don't want it to be perfect.
|
26 |
+
23,22.321,22.36716667,spk_0,You want it to be done essentially. So
|
27 |
+
24,22.37398333,22.41981667,spk_0,it's college draw migration and started.
|
28 |
+
25,22.44348333,22.44383333,spk_2,I
|
29 |
+
26,22.4505,22.4875,spk_2,"-- think
|
30 |
+
-- if I'm, if I'm recalling correct,"
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31 |
+
27,22.48766667,22.53648333,spk_1,"I think Amy had started converting this to Mermaid, hadn't she?"
|
32 |
+
28,22.55433333,22.56365,spk_0,You wanted
|
33 |
+
29,22.56766667,22.59915,spk_0,to have it converted? I saw
|
34 |
+
30,22.60416667,22.61581667,spk_1,"a,"
|
35 |
+
31,22.61981667,22.686,spk_1,"I don't know where it is, but I gotta find it. I saw a collapse like a details collapse."
|
36 |
+
32,22.68616667,22.73931667,spk_1,And inside of that is a bunch of mermaid stuff. And
|
37 |
+
33,22.74166667,22.77733333,spk_1,uh I think it's related to this.
|
38 |
+
34,22.78366667,22.83133333,spk_1,"It's not done, but I I'm pretty sure it is this."
|
39 |
+
35,22.83715,22.91398333,spk_0,"Well, if it is good, that's good luck for you. But if it's not, you have to do it anyway."
|
40 |
+
36,22.91415,22.95866667,spk_0,"So, but yeah, please take a look at it soon. So we can"
|
41 |
+
37,22.9605,23.00381667,spk_0,"because what I want, what I want is to have as soon as we have."
|
42 |
+
38,23.00398333,23.04183333,spk_0,"I know uh we'll, we'll check the other sections"
|
43 |
+
39,23.04683333,23.09565,spk_0,as soon as we have these. We should all get
|
44 |
+
40,23.1045,23.115,spk_0,like
|
45 |
+
41,23.12681667,23.13248333,spk_0,a P
|
46 |
+
42,23.136,23.16781667,spk_0,"to say, listen, documentations is ready,"
|
47 |
+
43,23.16798333,23.22248333,spk_0,go take a look and then we'll chat about it because
|
48 |
+
44,23.22566667,23.28,spk_0,we'll have to have a sync discussion about or a sync or a sync
|
49 |
+
45,23.282,23.2925,spk_0,discussion
|
50 |
+
46,23.30531667,23.35516667,spk_0,about how we extract the patterns that match
|
51 |
+
47,23.357,23.42716667,spk_0,"all, all things. But anyway, so that's the status of code view, front end Thomas."
|
52 |
+
48,23.42733333,23.47166667,spk_0,Thank you so much. Let's hope to have it done in the next couple of days.
|
53 |
+
49,23.48231667,23.51631667,spk_0,Uh Who else was to provide an update?
|
54 |
+
50,23.53616667,23.54633333,spk_4,Uh
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55 |
+
51,23.5485,23.58166667,spk_4,"Yeah, I did start with the,"
|
56 |
+
52,23.5905,23.65965,spk_4,the source code content. Um I added the um
|
57 |
+
53,23.66398333,23.723,spk_4,the diagrams for compare branches and repository commit.
|
58 |
+
54,23.742,23.75365,spk_4,Um
|
59 |
+
55,23.76148333,23.81365,spk_4,They're pretty simple because they both Hamel based.
|
60 |
+
56,23.81381667,23.90598333,spk_4,Um The only difference really is on the repository we requested um
|
61 |
+
57,23.91083333,23.93566667,spk_4,The diffs asynchronously.
|
62 |
+
58,23.95716667,24.00548333,spk_4,That's really the only notable difference uh
|
63 |
+
59,24.00981667,24.02281667,spk_4,"between them,"
|
64 |
+
60,24.038,24.07198333,spk_4,"but it's in the, it's in that issue."
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65 |
+
61,24.07865,24.09466667,spk_4,"If you wanted to,"
|
66 |
+
62,24.10216667,24.12265,spk_4,anyone wants to take a look.
|
67 |
+
63,24.134,24.17698333,spk_0,I'm guessing that this is what you're talking about. Jack.
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68 |
+
64,24.18231667,24.20115,spk_0,That's the one. Yeah.
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69 |
+
65,24.22133333,24.23966667,spk_0,"All right, cool."
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70 |
+
66,24.24748333,24.27898333,spk_0,"We'll definitely take a look at it and,"
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71 |
+
67,24.27916667,24.33766667,spk_0,"and if you have any questions or clarifications that we need,"
|
72 |
+
68,24.34033333,24.40165,spk_0,feel free to ping Jack on this thread and um
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73 |
+
69,24.40765,24.44233333,spk_0,we'll take it from there. Right? More updates.
|
74 |
+
70,24.58216667,24.67166667,spk_2,"Yeah, I saw that um uh Jack did it to them. Um Front end architecture."
|
75 |
+
71,24.6815,24.71381667,spk_2,"Uh And yeah, it looked"
|
76 |
+
72,24.71683333,24.71916667,spk_2,to uh
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77 |
+
73,24.72265,24.77533333,spk_2,"um it seemed to me that uh it's, it's enough,"
|
78 |
+
74,24.7755,24.85548333,spk_2,but probably I should add more details here if we're interested about um uh
|
79 |
+
75,24.85933333,24.86598333,spk_2,gli
|
80 |
+
76,24.87183333,24.92631667,spk_2,"involvement into this. Then uh Yeah,"
|
81 |
+
77,24.93065,25.00598333,spk_2,I'll add details or maybe um either me
|
82 |
+
78,25.00815,25.02166667,spk_2,"or Sean,"
|
83 |
+
79,25.02591667,25.06525,spk_2,we'll ask someone from the team to
|
84 |
+
80,25.06741667,25.10425,spk_2,read the diagram. Yeah. And
|
85 |
+
81,25.10756667,25.11558333,spk_2,so
|
86 |
+
82,25.12006667,25.18923333,spk_2,"-- I'll have the update yet today or
|
87 |
+
-- tomorrow. I think, I think it would still be useful,"
|
88 |
+
83,25.19441667,25.25658333,spk_0,"especially as we're like, especially when we're talking about"
|
89 |
+
84,25.26141667,25.29156667,spk_0,front and architecture changes.
|
90 |
+
85,25.29175,25.35823333,spk_0,We're not really clear about what that means for you all in the back end for
|
91 |
+
86,25.3619,25.3679,spk_0,"gy,"
|
92 |
+
87,25.37308333,25.40891667,spk_0,"like for example, this partial things,"
|
93 |
+
88,25.41823333,25.49273333,spk_0,would that speed things up significantly or would still not make um
|
94 |
+
89,25.50331667,25.55115,spk_0,"that much of a difference. So we, we just want to"
|
95 |
+
90,25.55866667,25.59748333,spk_0,uh um understand and I'll just
|
96 |
+
91,25.61615,25.63881667,spk_0,to um
|
97 |
+
92,25.64331667,25.66865,spk_0,make that a little bit more specific
|
98 |
+
93,25.678,25.707,spk_0,"when we're requesting the DS,"
|
99 |
+
94,25.7135,25.767,spk_0,we could distinguish between the gifts that are visible now to the
|
100 |
+
95,25.76716667,25.80083333,spk_0,user and the ones that are not visible to the user.
|
101 |
+
96,25.801,25.87733333,spk_0,"So we could cut some corners and render those much quicker because then later on,"
|
102 |
+
97,25.8775,25.90016667,spk_0,we'll refresh them
|
103 |
+
98,25.90266667,25.93133333,spk_0,for the real thing later on.
|
104 |
+
99,25.93766667,25.99866667,spk_0,"Uh which means that the request to get, it could be much lighter"
|
105 |
+
100,26.00516667,26.03898333,spk_0,if we don't need all the information that we
|
106 |
+
101,26.04331667,26.06781667,spk_0,might need later. So
|
107 |
+
102,26.07248333,26.12648333,spk_0,"a lot of these decisions are like full stack, they go from the beginning to the end."
|
108 |
+
103,26.12665,26.146,spk_0,"So yeah, we're very useful."
|
109 |
+
104,26.1505,26.16398333,spk_0,Um
|
110 |
+
105,26.20615,26.26148333,spk_0,Thanks and uh the code review back. And
|
111 |
+
106,26.26333333,26.33416667,spk_0,um as far as I understand they have been being there's a couple of meg
|
112 |
+
107,26.33648333,26.35516667,spk_0,requests being merged
|
113 |
+
108,26.38481667,26.44148333,spk_0,"and there's the one in flight uh again, Patrick absence,"
|
114 |
+
109,26.484,26.50965,spk_0,but from what I can see
|
115 |
+
110,26.54148333,26.6045,spk_0,several MRMRS are being
|
116 |
+
111,26.60683333,26.63783333,spk_0,merged slash reviewed
|
117 |
+
112,26.6485,26.67415,spk_0,into this page.
|
118 |
+
113,26.6885,26.69616667,spk_0,"Sorry,"
|
119 |
+
114,26.7175,26.74981667,spk_0,I shouldn't put the hash there.
|
120 |
+
115,26.76431667,26.86398333,spk_0,Um And that's what I think is the latest update from the back end for code review.
|
121 |
+
116,26.86415,26.93333333,spk_0,"Um In this particular sense, the diagrams are the ones that are really tiny,"
|
122 |
+
117,26.94583333,27.019,spk_0,"but we probably want to take a look at that, try to understand everything that, that"
|
123 |
+
118,27.03098333,27.11766667,spk_0,that is over there so we could potentially um understand that better. And um
|
124 |
+
119,27.14531667,27.18433333,spk_0,"yeah, I guess it was the flow section but"
|
125 |
+
120,27.19115,27.20965,spk_0,I put it to the whole page.
|
126 |
+
121,27.23915,27.24816667,spk_0,Cool.
|
127 |
+
122,27.24833333,27.33115,spk_0,Uh So let's uh it feels like we're getting to once we have Thomas's uh
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+
123,27.33133333,27.41581667,spk_0,"migration of Bill's diagram and once we have the back end from source code,"
|
129 |
+
124,27.41598333,27.47083333,spk_0,it feels like we have a good spot to just overview everything together
|
130 |
+
125,27.47481667,27.54065,spk_0,first synchronous and then have a synchronous discussion about it. So um
|
131 |
+
126,27.555,27.62933333,spk_0,"thanks everybody for, for that um update anybody has any other points."
|
132 |
+
127,27.77465,27.78498333,spk_0,Cool.
|
133 |
+
128,27.79131667,27.80433333,spk_0,Um
|
134 |
+
129,27.825,27.884,spk_0,"So I'll, I'm just taking a look about what we need. We need to get done."
|
135 |
+
130,27.88416667,27.95266667,spk_0,"I'll update the Thursday call, broadcast the change on Slack"
|
136 |
+
131,27.96283333,28.00916667,spk_0,"Thomas will fish off,"
|
137 |
+
132,28.03281667,28.11831667,spk_0,"I'll, I'll start an Mr to document the priorities in the Mr uh in the markdown file"
|
138 |
+
133,28.1355,28.1505,spk_0,and
|
139 |
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134,28.15883333,28.21533333,spk_0,Igor will com complete or find someone to complete the back end
|
140 |
+
135,28.22415,28.30916667,spk_0,"of um details. And yeah, Thomas will update the migration of that."
|
141 |
+
136,28.30933333,28.32848333,spk_0,So I feel like we have
|
142 |
+
137,28.33048333,28.33065,spk_0,a
|
143 |
+
138,28.346,28.369,spk_0,"cool list of things to,"
|
144 |
+
139,28.36916667,28.4105,spk_0,to get done on and let's participate in the
|
145 |
+
140,28.41066667,28.45483333,spk_0,discussion of the definition of done everybody so we can
|
146 |
+
141,28.471,28.50598333,spk_0,get it in a place to get merged to.
|
147 |
+
142,28.52566667,28.53416667,spk_0,"All right,"
|
148 |
+
143,28.536,28.53616667,spk_0,a
|
149 |
+
144,28.54081667,28.57431667,spk_0,"bit chaotic, but uh we got it through."
|
150 |
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145,28.57448333,28.65331667,spk_0,"Thank, thank you so much for, for, for everybody's input and um"
|
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+
146,28.65731667,28.69298333,spk_0,"yeah, I'll see you either Thursday or"
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147,28.70466667,28.717,spk_0,"Tuesday,"
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148,28.72031667,28.73098333,spk_0,I guess.
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149,28.76415,28.786,spk_0,All right. Take care everybody
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150,28.7905,28.80365,spk_0,too. Thanks everybody.
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151,28.8125,28.82248333,spk_0,Thank you.
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+
,start_time,end_time,speaker_label,text
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0,0.0293166666666666,0.0996666666666666,spk_0,"All right, we are live. Welcome to another weekly of the new D"
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3 |
+
1,0.1076666666666666,0.185,spk_0,"architecture workflow meeting, synchronized meeting for Em"
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4 |
+
2,0.1891666666666666,0.2085,spk_0,and America's.
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5 |
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3,0.2179833333333333,0.22965,spk_0,Um
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6 |
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4,0.23515,0.3005,spk_0,I'll start off with an uh I'll hijack the agenda just for a little bit.
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7 |
+
5,0.30365,0.3395,spk_0,Just an fy I um
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8 |
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6,0.3469833333333333,0.36365,spk_0,Natalia
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9 |
+
7,0.38565,0.4283333333333333,spk_0,in case you missed the update on on Slack
|
10 |
+
8,0.4383166666666666,0.4643333333333333,spk_0,Finna is now our coach.
|
11 |
+
9,0.4789833333333333,0.53265,spk_0,She will be helping us find a way throughout the whole process
|
12 |
+
10,0.53715,0.61865,spk_0,"of publishing this blueprint and, and giving some advice along the way. So"
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13 |
+
11,0.6254833333333334,0.6313333333333334,spk_0,thanks for
|
14 |
+
12,0.6334833333333333,0.6484833333333333,spk_0,telling for the help.
|
15 |
+
13,0.64865,0.7226666666666667,spk_0,Um This came up in the review of the adding the blueprint to the documentation. So
|
16 |
+
14,0.7359833333333333,0.75765,spk_0,welcome. Do you wanna
|
17 |
+
15,0.7709833333333334,0.7849833333333333,spk_0,and s a few words?
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18 |
+
16,0.8088166666666667,0.8885000000000001,spk_1,"Thank you. It's nice to be in create group again, at least temporarily."
|
19 |
+
17,0.893,0.9578333333333332,spk_0,"Yes. Like I always say, once, create, always create. So you never left."
|
20 |
+
18,0.9765,1.01715,spk_0,Uh All right. Thank you. Uh Let's move on to ST
|
21 |
+
19,1.0208333333333333,1.0239833333333332,spk_0,is like
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22 |
+
20,1.0295,1.0468333333333333,spk_0,"-- you have a little point
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23 |
+
-- there."
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24 |
+
21,1.0738333333333334,1.1395,spk_2,"Yes, I, I've populated a list of issues with this."
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25 |
+
22,1.1468166666666666,1.228,spk_2,"It's mostly front and focused, but I touched a little bit on the back side."
|
26 |
+
23,1.22965,1.2895,spk_2,So feel free to explore and maybe add something else.
|
27 |
+
24,1.3573333333333333,1.433,spk_3,"I was thinking about adding a separate section there with accessibility issues,"
|
28 |
+
25,1.43315,1.45765,spk_3,"uh the front end, but"
|
29 |
+
26,1.46115,1.5044833333333334,spk_3,uh there might be quite a bit of them. So
|
30 |
+
27,1.5088166666666667,1.5091666666666668,spk_3,"yeah,"
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31 |
+
28,1.5218166666666666,1.5418333333333334,spk_3,extra list for that.
|
32 |
+
29,1.57365,1.624,spk_0,"Yeah, I think you already, you already did an audit, right?"
|
33 |
+
30,1.62415,1.6938166666666667,spk_0,"The document or at least started the audit of the current stiffs, right in the MRS."
|
34 |
+
31,1.7034833333333332,1.7173333333333334,spk_0,Um
|
35 |
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32,1.72315,1.76065,spk_0,I think it would be definitely worth surfacing
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36 |
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33,1.7756666666666665,1.82065,spk_0,"the the problems there,"
|
37 |
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34,1.8384833333333328,1.89315,spk_0,but still linking to the full audits is useful.
|
38 |
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35,1.895333333333333,1.9408166666666664,spk_0,Um The document to the to the document you're getting ready.
|
39 |
+
36,1.9495,2.012166666666667,spk_0,Um Because that would definitely be helpful for us to understand exactly
|
40 |
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37,2.016983333333333,2.0615,spk_0,what are the big issues um there.
|
41 |
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38,2.076483333333333,2.082483333333333,spk_0,"Yeah,"
|
42 |
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39,2.1388333333333334,2.1878333333333333,spk_0,cool. I was uh for the sake of everybody. Uh
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43 |
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40,2.20565,2.231333333333333,spk_0,I was just gonna be sharing the screen
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44 |
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41,2.244333333333333,2.259316666666667,spk_0,real quick.
|
45 |
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42,2.270833333333333,2.3051500000000003,spk_0,"Sorry, my throat is killing me a little bit."
|
46 |
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43,2.3175,2.3834833333333334,spk_0,So just as a like just so that we can all get a little synchronized here.
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47 |
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44,2.3836666666666666,2.419833333333333,spk_0,So you highlighted the virtual scrolling problems.
|
48 |
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45,2.43715,2.482666666666667,spk_0,Do you wanna do you wanna walk us through that? Love. We have a short agenda.
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49 |
+
46,2.482833333333333,2.501333333333333,spk_0,Do you wanna walk us through?
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50 |
+
47,2.5213166666666664,2.532833333333333,spk_4,Um
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51 |
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48,2.5541666666666667,2.58565,spk_2,There's like a lot of a
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52 |
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49,2.587833333333333,2.6216666666666666,spk_2,lot of stuff to cover. Um
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53 |
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50,2.632983333333333,2.71715,spk_2,I can focus on scroll issues. Um And probably everyone here
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54 |
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51,2.7199833333333334,2.751333333333333,spk_2,have faced one of them
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55 |
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52,2.756,2.78815,spk_2,at least once. Uh Good luck.
|
56 |
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53,2.790483333333333,2.799333333333333,spk_2,So
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57 |
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54,2.8055,2.88,spk_2,they're mostly about stuff when you click on sidebar items.
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58 |
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55,2.8939833333333334,2.9774833333333333,spk_2,"If the item is not loaded, usually it will do nothing or in the worst case"
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59 |
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56,2.9845,3.0141666666666667,spk_2,it can break the whole page.
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60 |
+
57,3.0341666666666667,3.0456666666666665,spk_2,Um
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61 |
+
58,3.056983333333333,3.0733166666666665,spk_2,Also
|
62 |
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59,3.08,3.1213166666666665,spk_2,we've had some issues in the past when you
|
63 |
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60,3.1228166666666666,3.177483333333333,spk_2,linked to a specific file or to a specific line
|
64 |
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61,3.1841666666666666,3.2373333333333334,spk_2,and then use that link to go to a new page.
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65 |
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62,3.244333333333333,3.287333333333333,spk_2,Usually the file won't be scrolled
|
66 |
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63,3.29365,3.3398166666666667,spk_2,to the place. So you will just see the first file
|
67 |
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64,3.3468166666666668,3.430333333333333,spk_2,and nothing will happen. So we've tried to fix that a couple of times and I see
|
68 |
+
65,3.442833333333333,3.482833333333333,spk_2,uh people still having issues with that.
|
69 |
+
66,3.490166666666666,3.517316666666667,spk_2,Um Even though we have
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70 |
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67,3.5233166666666667,3.545983333333333,spk_2,"testing in place,"
|
71 |
+
68,3.549,3.633333333333333,spk_2,it's still still not enough. There are some cases that we didn't cover. So
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72 |
+
69,3.6398166666666665,3.6843166666666662,spk_2,there's a lot of stuff to be improved in the
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73 |
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70,3.6923166666666662,3.6978166666666663,spk_2,scoring
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74 |
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71,3.707483333333333,3.723,spk_2,uh area.
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75 |
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72,3.73665,3.783666666666667,spk_0,So I I would provide a bit of context here.
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76 |
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73,3.7875,3.800983333333333,spk_0,Um
|
77 |
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74,3.81715,3.8745,spk_0,So the scrolling issues we saw coming up in the merger quests
|
78 |
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75,3.8841666666666663,3.931983333333333,spk_0,came up from the progress
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79 |
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76,3.93615,3.9954833333333335,spk_0,through first loading the whole different ones and then
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80 |
+
77,3.9956666666666663,4.061833333333333,spk_0,loading the different batches which some parts weren't loaded.
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81 |
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78,4.06915,4.102316666666667,spk_0,"Uh And then introducing fortress scrolling,"
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82 |
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79,4.110816666666667,4.1725,spk_0,there was a bunch of changes in the dynamic on how things were loaded
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83 |
+
80,4.181333333333333,4.225333333333333,spk_0,that were for the sake of performance.
|
84 |
+
81,4.225483333333333,4.285316666666667,spk_0,"But created this sort of like sometimes race conditions,"
|
85 |
+
82,4.2855,4.3123,spk_0,whether things are loaded or not
|
86 |
+
83,4.316983333333333,4.3373,spk_0,without proper checks.
|
87 |
+
84,4.341333333333333,4.369,spk_0,So that's probably something that we need to
|
88 |
+
85,4.3715,4.412316666666666,spk_0,incorporate in the architecture is that
|
89 |
+
86,4.4125,4.480333333333333,spk_0,um being prepared for that synchronicity or
|
90 |
+
87,4.488166666666666,4.538316666666667,spk_0,"I don't know, event driven design, so to speak. But"
|
91 |
+
88,4.54365,4.620333333333333,spk_0,"definitely there's a lot of issues that come out of those decisions and just the,"
|
92 |
+
89,4.6565,4.727333333333333,spk_0,"the evolution of the code base uh over time,"
|
93 |
+
90,4.73165,4.786,spk_0,you do. Did you mention a bit of a back end uh bits here?
|
94 |
+
91,4.7861666666666665,4.8276666666666666,spk_0,The slow Synex highlighting this ha this has been
|
95 |
+
92,4.827833333333333,4.874,spk_0,fixed by now unable to fetch a specific file.
|
96 |
+
93,4.874816666666667,4.912316666666666,spk_0,"However, it uses a different end point"
|
97 |
+
94,4.923,4.96915,spk_0,that we were suspicious about the performance because it doesn't
|
98 |
+
95,4.969333333333333,5.02,spk_0,have all the optimizations that the the normal one has.
|
99 |
+
96,5.02015,5.060666666666667,spk_0,So we definitely should have that in mind
|
100 |
+
97,5.060816666666667,5.103483333333333,spk_0,when we're thinking about ways of fetching things.
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101 |
+
98,5.1075,5.1355,spk_0,What's the best way and all that stuff?
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102 |
+
99,5.150166666666666,5.199,spk_0,Uh The Leon E Tech has responses and overloading riders with
|
103 |
+
100,5.2011666666666665,5.2058333333333335,spk_0,caching
|
104 |
+
101,5.217833333333333,5.3065,spk_0,"that one, we need backend um Folks to come over and help us out"
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105 |
+
102,5.315166666666666,5.348,spk_0,uh on that section.
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106 |
+
103,5.36965,5.383,spk_0,Cool. All right.
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107 |
+
104,5.38315,5.466983333333333,spk_0,"So we had a bit of a an overview and please feel free to engage there in the issue, um"
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108 |
+
105,5.468833333333333,5.4943333333333335,spk_0,"synchronously and, and"
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109 |
+
106,5.497316666666666,5.512983333333334,spk_0,"Pauline definitely,"
|
110 |
+
107,5.513166666666667,5.5613166666666665,spk_0,the accessibility issues would definitely be useful to highlight there too
|
111 |
+
108,5.566166666666667,5.635816666666667,spk_0,"if you have issues. Just a summary like San Love did is useful as well,"
|
112 |
+
109,5.68415,5.687666666666667,spk_0,right.
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113 |
+
110,5.712166666666667,5.7566500000000005,spk_0,All right. Moving on to the next point. Uh I have it.
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114 |
+
111,5.757333333333333,5.784316666666666,spk_0,I just want to let everybody know that the
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115 |
+
112,5.7845,5.82065,spk_0,"blueprint page has been published like the draft,"
|
116 |
+
113,5.820833333333333,5.8678333333333335,spk_0,the initial very empty placeholder kind of thing.
|
117 |
+
114,5.867983333333333,5.884816666666667,spk_0,Um
|
118 |
+
115,5.886666666666667,5.93215,spk_0,So the idea is not as the ongoing discussions
|
119 |
+
116,5.932333333333333,5.990483333333334,spk_0,come to a close that will move the conclusions and
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120 |
+
117,6.000166666666667,6.03165,spk_0,the directions um
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121 |
+
118,6.039833333333333,6.063166666666667,spk_0,over to the documentation.
|
122 |
+
119,6.072,6.1253166666666665,spk_0,So we already started doing that with the order of priorities.
|
123 |
+
120,6.125483333333333,6.1475,spk_0,Uh We're definitely going to be doing that
|
124 |
+
121,6.14765,6.18165,spk_0,"with the definition of done the meaningful metrics,"
|
125 |
+
122,6.1818333333333335,6.237,spk_0,all of that will make its way to that page.
|
126 |
+
123,6.2465,6.288166666666666,spk_0,And I'd like to remind anybody can just open the merger quest to
|
127 |
+
124,6.288316666666667,6.342983333333334,spk_0,"add that as soon as the discussions come to a point of like,"
|
128 |
+
125,6.34315,6.38315,spk_0,"yep, feels like we're having, we're in a good spot"
|
129 |
+
126,6.3901666666666666,6.4495,spk_0,"just to go ahead and open the merger quest and can all review and collaborate. So,"
|
130 |
+
127,6.475316666666667,6.508333333333333,spk_0,uh questions about that
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131 |
+
128,6.519333333333333,6.528333333333333,spk_0,of it.
|
132 |
+
129,6.544833333333333,6.552666666666667,spk_0,Oops.
|
133 |
+
130,6.605833333333333,6.6095,spk_0,Oh Yeah.
|
134 |
+
131,6.628833333333334,6.675816666666667,spk_0,Um I wanted to bring up the time of the meeting. Um
|
135 |
+
132,6.6965,6.733,spk_0,It's probably gonna be for the recording uh because
|
136 |
+
133,6.73315,6.756333333333333,spk_0,"there's not a lot of people outside here,"
|
137 |
+
134,6.7636666666666665,6.837816666666667,spk_0,"but essentially uh A PAC had no attendance again uh this week,"
|
138 |
+
135,6.837983333333334,6.858816666666667,spk_0,this past week on Thursday.
|
139 |
+
136,6.86765,6.952833333333333,spk_0,"The question is like, does anybody have any ideas on how we should deal with that?"
|
140 |
+
137,6.953333333333333,7.008816666666666,spk_0,Um I haven't chatted with David and Ash that are the
|
141 |
+
138,7.019833333333334,7.077166666666667,spk_0,immediate engineers that come to mind that are in that time zone.
|
142 |
+
139,7.084,7.113166666666666,spk_0,Um So
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143 |
+
140,7.126816666666667,7.17015,spk_0,I live here. The question is open ended.
|
144 |
+
141,7.170333333333334,7.238166666666666,spk_0,If somebody has any ideas on how we can make the A pe call a little bit more useful
|
145 |
+
142,7.248316666666667,7.317483333333334,spk_0,"uh or give them a place to present proposals or discuss things,"
|
146 |
+
143,7.33465,7.351983333333333,spk_0,whether we do need AAA
|
147 |
+
144,7.353983333333334,7.38165,spk_0,call is also a question. So
|
148 |
+
145,7.390983333333334,7.414316666666667,spk_0,uh keen to hear your feedback
|
149 |
+
146,7.426666666666667,7.457,spk_0,"on the, on this one."
|
150 |
+
147,7.471816666666666,7.50965,spk_0,It's currently clashing with the front end weekly meeting.
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151 |
+
148,7.509816666666667,7.553666666666666,spk_0,"And the question is, should we move it to earlier or to later"
|
152 |
+
149,7.571816666666667,7.609816666666667,spk_0,and let's see what people think Stanislav.
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153 |
+
150,7.653333333333333,7.667333333333334,spk_2,"Yeah, for me"
|
154 |
+
151,7.66965,7.714666666666667,spk_2,"e is, is better because we also have"
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155 |
+
152,7.725816666666667,7.7345,spk_2,uh
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156 |
+
153,7.74615,7.753166666666667,spk_2,front
|
157 |
+
154,7.754833333333333,7.773816666666667,spk_2,and vision group meeting
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158 |
+
155,7.786666666666667,7.815483333333333,spk_2,"uh near that time. So,"
|
159 |
+
156,7.81865,7.887,spk_2,"yeah, if you move it later, it will also collide with this meeting"
|
160 |
+
157,7.91765,7.959,spk_0,"and then after that it's too late for you. Yeah, I get it. Yeah."
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161 |
+
158,7.96765,7.982333333333333,spk_0,Um
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162 |
+
159,7.988483333333333,8.031333333333333,spk_0,"Thomas, what time is it over there? 730"
|
163 |
+
160,8.041983333333333,8.083,spk_5,it's 730 right now. 745.
|
164 |
+
161,8.099666666666666,8.101816666666666,spk_0,Ok.
|
165 |
+
162,8.1075,8.140833333333333,spk_0,That's the struggle. Um
|
166 |
+
163,8.19415,8.23215,spk_5,"I was, yeah, I was just gonna chime in and be like, well for me,"
|
167 |
+
164,8.232333333333333,8.263166666666667,spk_5,it would be great if we moved it later
|
168 |
+
165,8.278166666666667,8.310666666666666,spk_0,"for you. And Carrie, that's the thing."
|
169 |
+
166,8.3225,8.355483333333334,spk_2,If we move it to like
|
170 |
+
167,8.35815,8.3865,spk_2,30 minutes later
|
171 |
+
168,8.39515,8.44315,spk_2,"-- or an hour later, I think it will be fine for
|
172 |
+
-- me."
|
173 |
+
169,8.490833333333333,8.515666666666666,spk_0,"Ok. So,"
|
174 |
+
170,8.527333333333333,8.575966666666666,spk_0,so I'm gonna document here the tradeoffs that we're going to be taking this
|
175 |
+
171,8.577983333333334,8.609833333333333,spk_0,as uh asynchronously. So essentially
|
176 |
+
172,8.611666666666666,8.627816666666666,spk_0,earlier
|
177 |
+
173,8.675,8.710666666666667,spk_0,means uh Patrick
|
178 |
+
174,8.723166666666666,8.75065,spk_0,might make it more often
|
179 |
+
175,8.76115,8.778166666666667,spk_0,uh
|
180 |
+
176,8.7835,8.8055,spk_0,more convenient.
|
181 |
+
177,8.827333333333334,8.836983333333333,spk_0,All right.
|
182 |
+
178,8.852816666666667,8.861316666666667,spk_0,"Yeah,"
|
183 |
+
179,8.902983333333333,8.928816666666666,spk_0,and slash front end
|
184 |
+
180,8.950166666666666,9.001166666666666,spk_0,"later. Oh, then that means that"
|
185 |
+
181,9.01315,9.048166666666669,spk_0,us folks can't attend
|
186 |
+
182,9.083833333333333,9.122816666666669,spk_0,later. Us folks can't attend.
|
187 |
+
183,9.13815,9.1505,spk_0,Patrick
|
188 |
+
184,9.185833333333331,9.2035,spk_0,can't make it
|
189 |
+
185,9.221483333333332,9.223333333333333,spk_0,good.
|
190 |
+
186,9.258833333333332,9.263833333333332,spk_6,Uh
|
191 |
+
187,9.279166666666669,9.347816666666668,spk_2,Maybe we can move the call um to another date like Monday
|
192 |
+
188,9.357983333333332,9.394483333333334,spk_2,because I don't see any meetings
|
193 |
+
189,9.396333333333333,9.41515,spk_2,"-- on Monday
|
194 |
+
-- happening."
|
195 |
+
190,9.446,9.521166666666666,spk_0,"So, yeah, what I'm struggling with is exactly the time itself. Um"
|
196 |
+
191,9.5275,9.585833333333332,spk_0,"The collision with the front end folks is just the front end weekly, just one of them,"
|
197 |
+
192,9.594316666666666,9.621166666666667,spk_0,but I'm trying to understand
|
198 |
+
193,9.627816666666666,9.699816666666669,spk_0,"maybe instead of trying to stretch things into an A P A call,"
|
199 |
+
194,9.720166666666668,9.802983333333334,spk_0,we can potentially have a little bit more tight oscillation of times. Um
|
200 |
+
195,9.826983333333333,9.87865,spk_0,"Yeah, I need to sit, I need to sit in front of a calendar of a time zone"
|
201 |
+
196,9.89265,9.915833333333332,spk_0,thing and just uh
|
202 |
+
197,9.91965,9.957983333333331,spk_0,shift things around and see where it lands. But
|
203 |
+
198,9.965483333333331,9.980983333333333,spk_0,"um,"
|
204 |
+
199,10.040483333333333,10.105983333333333,spk_5,so I know the the time isn't great right now. Um
|
205 |
+
200,10.110666666666669,10.179166666666667,spk_5,But I will say that at this time of day is not like
|
206 |
+
201,10.1855,10.273483333333331,spk_5,"it's not undoable for me, right? So like 730 is OK, Carrie, I think maybe"
|
207 |
+
202,10.2795,10.344833333333334,spk_5,"she said the same thing. She's like 630 isn't the worst, but like,"
|
208 |
+
203,10.35615,10.376983333333332,spk_5,"I mean, come on at 630"
|
209 |
+
204,10.397483333333334,10.426333333333334,spk_5,"-- that's the worst.
|
210 |
+
-- So"
|
211 |
+
205,10.44015,10.47,spk_0,to me that's literally the worst. But
|
212 |
+
206,10.483983333333333,10.543833333333334,spk_0,"um no, all right. So I didn't expect us to have an outcome here on the call."
|
213 |
+
207,10.544,10.599333333333334,spk_0,So I'll take these out and I'll think of something and come
|
214 |
+
208,10.599483333333334,10.649166666666666,spk_0,up with a proposal of synchronously and chat with you on Slack.
|
215 |
+
209,10.670833333333333,10.7325,spk_0,Cool. So which takes us to the current things.
|
216 |
+
210,10.732666666666669,10.806816666666666,spk_0,"Uh the current, ongoing effort to document the current state of deaths. Um"
|
217 |
+
211,10.812833333333334,10.86115,spk_0,"And if I remember correctly, we were"
|
218 |
+
212,10.8765,10.939483333333332,spk_0,"Oh yeah, because Igor said he'd be out of office. That's why Igor is not here too."
|
219 |
+
213,10.947333333333331,10.979983333333331,spk_0,Uh So we're waiting on SARS
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220 |
+
214,10.981816666666669,11.038833333333333,spk_0,good back end. I haven't heard
|
221 |
+
215,11.05815,11.07265,spk_0,um
|
222 |
+
216,11.077816666666669,11.144483333333334,spk_0,"Jack, do you know if Igor has added anything for source code back end?"
|
223 |
+
217,11.166666666666666,11.217166666666667,spk_4,"Yeah. So I'm looking at the issue right now. It looks like he had a,"
|
224 |
+
218,11.223166666666666,11.262833333333331,spk_4,"um, a diagram for the back end"
|
225 |
+
219,11.265666666666666,11.276166666666668,spk_4,um
|
226 |
+
220,11.293833333333334,11.328816666666668,spk_4,part of the source code pages.
|
227 |
+
221,11.344316666666666,11.40715,spk_4,"Um It looks like he wants some input from the,"
|
228 |
+
222,11.41415,11.461316666666669,spk_4,from the other back end engineers as well just to
|
229 |
+
223,11.466666666666669,11.49,spk_4,check if he's missed anything.
|
230 |
+
224,11.50515,11.559983333333332,spk_0,"OK. That's, that's exactly right. That's exactly"
|
231 |
+
225,11.562316666666666,11.626983333333332,spk_0,what we need to do once we have all the diagrams in place. So
|
232 |
+
226,11.6355,11.660833333333333,spk_0,that's progress there. That's good.
|
233 |
+
227,11.664833333333334,11.682816666666668,spk_0,I'm trying to find
|
234 |
+
228,11.696816666666669,11.7005,spk_0,es
|
235 |
+
229,11.713483333333333,11.796483333333333,spk_0,"um Yep, found it, got the link there. I'm gonna put it here."
|
236 |
+
230,11.811316666666666,11.83615,spk_0,"So OK, we have that"
|
237 |
+
231,11.837833333333334,11.907666666666668,spk_0,front end source code. We already had that from last week. That's Jack.
|
238 |
+
232,11.921483333333333,11.9345,spk_0,Um
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239 |
+
233,11.9625,11.9835,spk_0,Jack added.
|
240 |
+
234,11.995483333333333,12.04965,spk_0,"So it seems like source code, we have something to to base it off uh"
|
241 |
+
235,12.056666666666668,12.1045,spk_0,"code review back and we had,"
|
242 |
+
236,12.124333333333333,12.147816666666667,spk_0,what were we waiting?
|
243 |
+
237,12.161316666666666,12.164483333333331,spk_0,Uh
|
244 |
+
238,12.219,12.261666666666668,spk_0,We have the document condition being updated itself. I
|
245 |
+
239,12.263666666666667,12.2865,spk_0,feel like that's
|
246 |
+
240,12.302166666666666,12.349,spk_0,what we've had from Patrick and the folks.
|
247 |
+
241,12.379333333333332,12.3855,spk_0,Uh
|
248 |
+
242,12.391,12.417166666666668,spk_0,"Yeah, in the front end"
|
249 |
+
243,12.422166666666667,12.423166666666669,spk_0,the
|
250 |
+
244,12.425,12.426816666666667,spk_0,se
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251 |
+
245,12.429816666666667,12.450983333333332,spk_0,chart in the dogs now.
|
252 |
+
246,12.465,12.49765,spk_0,So we had uh we converted that to Mermaid.
|
253 |
+
247,12.547483333333334,12.549166666666666,spk_0,Oh
|
254 |
+
248,12.558833333333334,12.604666666666668,spk_0,"yes, we do. Right. Thomas, go ahead."
|
255 |
+
249,12.6365,12.71615,spk_5,"Wish we had more control over how um Merman renders. But yeah, it's, it's there. So"
|
256 |
+
250,12.73515,12.773333333333332,spk_0,"I mean, if anything can't we"
|
257 |
+
251,12.77565,12.823333333333334,spk_0,"inspect it and move it to. No,"
|
258 |
+
252,12.85065,12.911666666666669,spk_0,"but we need to make it, we need to get the source code and then get it into an editor."
|
259 |
+
253,12.923166666666669,12.952983333333334,spk_0,"But yes, so at least we have them there."
|
260 |
+
254,12.955666666666668,12.970316666666667,spk_0,Um
|
261 |
+
255,12.973333333333333,12.998816666666666,spk_0,So it feels like we're in a good spot.
|
262 |
+
256,12.999,13.06965,spk_0,It feels like we're have a snapshot for all four contexts.
|
263 |
+
257,13.080983333333334,13.094483333333333,spk_0,Um
|
264 |
+
258,13.096333333333334,13.116,spk_0,So
|
265 |
+
259,13.134316666666669,13.176166666666669,spk_0,what I was thinking now that we have all four
|
266 |
+
260,13.177983333333334,13.248483333333333,spk_0,is to uh ask everybody to review them
|
267 |
+
261,13.25515,13.318,spk_0,in the next couple of days and potentially we could have
|
268 |
+
262,13.320316666666669,13.321483333333331,spk_0,"a, a"
|
269 |
+
263,13.3285,13.354983333333331,spk_0,discussion um
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270 |
+
264,13.368833333333331,13.46415,spk_0,or just a call to answer questions. Maybe we can use the next week's call for it
|
271 |
+
265,13.471166666666669,13.5335,spk_0,to uh clarify any particular questions that we might
|
272 |
+
266,13.533666666666669,13.579166666666667,spk_0,have about the diagrams because the whole goal is to
|
273 |
+
267,13.582983333333331,13.676166666666669,spk_0,"align things both on the front end and on the back end, including Italy."
|
274 |
+
268,13.682816666666668,13.717483333333334,spk_0,"I'm particularly since the part that I don't know,"
|
275 |
+
269,13.71765,13.749816666666666,spk_0,I'm particularly interested about the back end ones
|
276 |
+
270,13.767166666666666,13.79015,spk_0,and getting to know that a little bit.
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277 |
+
271,13.795833333333333,13.813483333333334,spk_0,Um
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278 |
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272,13.816833333333332,13.854816666666666,spk_0,So I'll take a look at those and see what questions I have.
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279 |
+
273,13.854983333333331,13.936666666666667,spk_0,"But the idea is then to try to see um things that work well, things that work,"
|
280 |
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274,13.936833333333333,13.948166666666667,spk_0,not so well.
|
281 |
+
275,13.948333333333334,13.963666666666668,spk_0,"And what can we,"
|
282 |
+
276,13.969483333333333,14.01615,spk_0,how can we converge it into a single architecture?
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283 |
+
277,14.021483333333334,14.0375,spk_0,But that will come
|
284 |
+
278,14.05265,14.087833333333334,spk_0,once we all review these things.
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285 |
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279,14.088,14.173483333333332,spk_0,"So I'll uh I'll take an action point to ping everybody,"
|
286 |
+
280,14.191316666666667,14.227333333333334,spk_0,at least the dris um
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287 |
+
281,14.230816666666666,14.321166666666668,spk_0,to review the documentation that has been published. Then this ones uh and
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288 |
+
282,14.32365,14.38015,spk_0,"aim to have it discussed um or to have a,"
|
289 |
+
283,14.380333333333333,14.46315,spk_0,an A ma or just some sort of like discussion about it in the next weekly call.
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290 |
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284,14.463316666666667,14.478816666666669,spk_0,If that sounds OK.
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291 |
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285,14.523483333333331,14.553983333333331,spk_0,Any other thoughts or questions
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292 |
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286,14.558333333333334,14.574483333333331,spk_0,or suggestions.
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293 |
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287,14.655816666666666,14.689,spk_0,Cool. I'll do that
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294 |
+
288,14.69465,14.706816666666668,spk_0,action.
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295 |
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289,14.72565,14.747816666666669,spk_0,They will
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296 |
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290,14.756816666666667,14.762316666666669,spk_0,think
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297 |
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291,14.771816666666666,14.786666666666669,spk_0,everyone
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298 |
+
292,14.81315,14.853983333333334,spk_0,take a look and discuss
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299 |
+
293,14.863,14.889483333333333,spk_0,"in next weeks,"
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300 |
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294,14.913316666666669,14.925166666666666,spk_0,"a, a mini style"
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301 |
+
295,14.96315,15.008833333333332,spk_0,"and how you do. All right, cool. Uh Thomas, you have that explain."
|
302 |
+
296,15.034666666666666,15.0505,spk_5,Yeah. Um
|
303 |
+
297,15.061833333333333,15.115483333333334,spk_5,"So in talking about some like technical performance metrics,"
|
304 |
+
298,15.115666666666666,15.15365,spk_5,"um I think it's really like, I"
|
305 |
+
299,15.1555,15.2295,spk_5,think it's really important that we define who we are trying to serve with this.
|
306 |
+
300,15.234833333333333,15.250166666666669,spk_5,Um Because
|
307 |
+
301,15.25715,15.302816666666669,spk_5,what I'm suggesting comes from a certain place which is
|
308 |
+
302,15.31115,15.358833333333331,spk_5,"like really low power devices on unreliable networks,"
|
309 |
+
303,15.358983333333333,15.392166666666666,spk_5,developing country type stuff.
|
310 |
+
304,15.392316666666666,15.444166666666666,spk_5,"Um And we really need to nail down whether that's our target,"
|
311 |
+
305,15.444316666666667,15.468166666666669,spk_5,whether we should be doing that.
|
312 |
+
306,15.47065,15.48215,spk_5,Um
|
313 |
+
307,15.491833333333334,15.562316666666666,spk_5,"Because if we're not targeting those users, we can adjust our budgets."
|
314 |
+
308,15.56865,15.630333333333333,spk_5,Um And that's like I'm me targeting those users
|
315 |
+
309,15.6305,15.664833333333334,spk_5,"might be making me talk past people about like,"
|
316 |
+
310,15.675166666666666,15.708833333333333,spk_5,"like not, not being on the same page."
|
317 |
+
311,15.711316666666669,15.781666666666666,spk_5,So I would really like to hear people's ideas about who are like target should be.
|
318 |
+
312,15.795316666666666,15.854166666666666,spk_5,"I probably also has some ideas about this, but from my perspective,"
|
319 |
+
313,15.854333333333331,15.8865,spk_5,the more users we serve the better for Kai.
|
320 |
+
314,15.886666666666668,15.896816666666666,spk_5,So
|
321 |
+
315,15.9,15.9085,spk_5,"that's,"
|
322 |
+
316,15.910316666666668,15.94115,spk_5,that's where I'm kind of coming from. So
|
323 |
+
317,15.951166666666667,15.98415,spk_5,"um would like to get inputs here,"
|
324 |
+
318,16.074,16.096333333333334,spk_0,"status level, you have a point."
|
325 |
+
319,16.12698333333333,16.15515,spk_2,"Yeah, I want to mention that"
|
326 |
+
320,16.163666666666668,16.203983333333333,spk_2,uh most of the reports I've seen
|
327 |
+
321,16.21015,16.242166666666666,spk_2,when people mention that measure
|
328 |
+
322,16.245166666666666,16.287316666666666,spk_2,quests are very slow and hard to work with.
|
329 |
+
323,16.293,16.324816666666667,spk_2,They are coming for people that are like
|
330 |
+
324,16.33015,16.35333333333333,spk_2,trying to
|
331 |
+
325,16.35715,16.378166666666665,spk_2,review a measure
|
332 |
+
326,16.380333333333333,16.387833333333333,spk_2,quest that
|
333 |
+
327,16.389833333333332,16.394,spk_2,has
|
334 |
+
328,16.406666666666666,16.466,spk_2,"100,000 clients changed some things like that."
|
335 |
+
329,16.474816666666666,16.48431666666667,spk_2,Um
|
336 |
+
330,16.495833333333334,16.54015,spk_2,"So yeah, if we focus on that, that's,"
|
337 |
+
331,16.547483333333332,16.579983333333335,spk_2,that's one issue. If we focus on like
|
338 |
+
332,16.584983333333334,16.620166666666666,spk_2,"low power devices, that's another one."
|
339 |
+
333,16.624166666666667,16.66315,spk_2,But I haven't seen any issues with people coming
|
340 |
+
334,16.665316666666666,16.697483333333334,spk_2,"and saying, can I want to"
|
341 |
+
335,16.701983333333335,16.74465,spk_2,render this on my nokia 3310
|
342 |
+
336,16.748333333333335,16.78415,spk_2,"and it doesn't render at all. So,"
|
343 |
+
337,16.8015,16.870483333333333,spk_5,"um so I the theory in that, in that uh issue, I, I wrote it,"
|
344 |
+
338,16.87065,16.894833333333334,spk_5,"I think my very first comment,"
|
345 |
+
339,16.90165,16.9785,spk_5,"my, my theory is that um those people are already not using the lab,"
|
346 |
+
340,16.9865,17.038666666666668,spk_5,"they're just, they've just been excluded by our product already."
|
347 |
+
341,17.041833333333333,17.0515,spk_5,Um
|
348 |
+
342,17.0535,17.108833333333333,spk_5,"Because people on low power devices probably not a nokia 3310 but,"
|
349 |
+
343,17.111983333333335,17.189833333333333,spk_5,"but like on low on low ish power devices, um they just, they, they can't use,"
|
350 |
+
344,17.19,17.2045,spk_5,"they can't use dips,"
|
351 |
+
345,17.204666666666668,17.26215,spk_5,it's like 4.5 megabytes and it takes like takes me on
|
352 |
+
346,17.262316666666667,17.3125,spk_5,my gigabit internet like six seconds to load or something.
|
353 |
+
347,17.312666666666665,17.3255,spk_5,"So if they're on,"
|
354 |
+
348,17.3385,17.394816666666667,spk_5,"if they're on 100 K or something, it would be in like an hour. Um"
|
355 |
+
349,17.401633333333333,17.411816666666667,spk_5,So
|
356 |
+
350,17.419166666666666,17.466833333333334,spk_5,they're already gone. So we're not gonna hear issues from them.
|
357 |
+
351,17.467,17.512666666666668,spk_5,"So that's why I'm, that's why I'm suspicious that like,"
|
358 |
+
352,17.51631666666667,17.5815,spk_5,"just because we're not hearing from people who want to use it on like low power,"
|
359 |
+
353,17.581666666666667,17.595483333333334,spk_5,"low bandwidth,"
|
360 |
+
354,17.598983333333333,17.636166666666668,spk_5,um doesn't mean that they are not out there.
|
361 |
+
355,17.676316666666665,17.68915,spk_5,The um
|
362 |
+
356,17.6925,17.7335,spk_5,"uh this is, this goes back to, I think our last,"
|
363 |
+
357,17.733666666666668,17.78465,spk_5,"I think it was the last meeting of this maybe or, or a front end meeting."
|
364 |
+
358,17.78865,17.799483333333335,spk_5,Um
|
365 |
+
359,17.802333333333333,17.82265,spk_5,"Andre mentioned the,"
|
366 |
+
360,17.832,17.909,spk_5,the story of the youtube engineer who was trying to get youtube under 100 K
|
367 |
+
361,17.917816666666667,17.932,spk_5,and uh
|
368 |
+
362,17.938816666666668,18.007816666666667,spk_5,their metrics got worse when he did because suddenly people in like
|
369 |
+
363,18.007983333333332,18.07215,spk_5,parts of the world who could never even think about using youtube before
|
370 |
+
364,18.076816666666662,18.08915,spk_5,could.
|
371 |
+
365,18.089316666666665,18.12448333333333,spk_5,And so then like latency started getting really bad because they
|
372 |
+
366,18.12465,18.161483333333333,spk_5,were using it from places they'd never used it before.
|
373 |
+
367,18.16398333333333,18.171983333333333,spk_5,So
|
374 |
+
368,18.176316666666665,18.186,spk_5,"I think are,"
|
375 |
+
369,18.186166666666665,18.23248333333333,spk_5,"I think those users are out there and we're just not able to serve them right now,"
|
376 |
+
370,18.357,18.4135,spk_5,"but I want to hear comments in that issue. Um I, but it"
|
377 |
+
371,18.425166666666662,18.472816666666667,spk_5,"doesn't really matter where there's a thread on like technical limitation,"
|
378 |
+
372,18.473,18.488816666666665,spk_5,"technical budgets,"
|
379 |
+
373,18.490816666666667,18.532166666666665,spk_5,um which is kind of where this is coming from.
|
380 |
+
374,18.532316666666667,18.56533333333333,spk_5,"But if you just want to leave a comment, like here's the user,"
|
381 |
+
375,18.5655,18.5835,spk_5,I think we should support.
|
382 |
+
376,18.584,18.624316666666665,spk_5,"Um That can be a totally different thread if you want,"
|
383 |
+
377,18.681666666666665,18.71933333333333,spk_0,you wanna hear comments in that issue
|
384 |
+
378,18.723666666666663,18.75348333333333,spk_0,or do you wanna read comments in that issue
|
385 |
+
379,18.76148333333333,18.794166666666666,spk_0,"-- either
|
386 |
+
-- or if you want to leave an audio note? That's great."
|
387 |
+
380,18.80216666666667,18.86865,spk_0,Uh I'll share my thoughts here too. So um
|
388 |
+
381,18.8775,18.89131666666667,spk_0,"whenever we have,"
|
389 |
+
382,18.891483333333333,18.95916666666667,spk_0,"we have this exercise about looking at who's our users and all that stuff,"
|
390 |
+
383,18.959333333333333,19.021166666666662,spk_0,"there's always the thing about we should aim for where we want it to be,"
|
391 |
+
384,19.02133333333333,19.05033333333333,spk_0,not where we are right now.
|
392 |
+
385,19.0505,19.069983333333333,spk_0,We might say
|
393 |
+
386,19.07933333333333,19.12415,spk_0,like we can look at the mobile users and say it's a very
|
394 |
+
387,19.124316666666665,19.1905,spk_0,tiny fraction of users and the justification might not even be about performance.
|
395 |
+
388,19.19065,19.2655,spk_0,"It might be that just the U I looks crunched, it looks very small and it, oh it's just,"
|
396 |
+
389,19.26565,19.296983333333333,spk_0,it's a hard task to do.
|
397 |
+
390,19.29715,19.35615,spk_0,"And we've trained our users to don't do it on a mobile, for example,"
|
398 |
+
391,19.360666666666667,19.39915,spk_0,which is not to say that this project could change that.
|
399 |
+
392,19.399316666666667,19.445833333333333,spk_0,So let's keep an open mind in that regard. Exactly.
|
400 |
+
393,19.446,19.48281666666667,spk_0,So we should keep strict in ourselves.
|
401 |
+
394,19.496666666666663,19.53715,spk_0,The other part of my answer or my thoughts is that
|
402 |
+
395,19.5405,19.578316666666662,spk_0,"the every conversation I have with Kai about this,"
|
403 |
+
396,19.57848333333333,19.652666666666665,spk_0,it's very clear that performance is the feature for our users.
|
404 |
+
397,19.652833333333334,19.66165,spk_0,And
|
405 |
+
398,19.66798333333333,19.69233333333333,spk_0,"whenever they complain,"
|
406 |
+
399,19.70565,19.745316666666668,spk_0,I I don't think the majority of the
|
407 |
+
400,19.745483333333333,19.79748333333333,spk_0,complaints like Stanislav was saying is not coming from
|
408 |
+
401,19.804666666666662,19.847316666666668,spk_0,problems loading the app.
|
409 |
+
402,19.847483333333333,19.9385,spk_0,"It's mostly about time processing the data that we need for the app to render,"
|
410 |
+
403,19.94565,19.965333333333334,spk_0,which is a different
|
411 |
+
404,19.97533333333333,20.021166666666662,spk_0,"part of the budget, but it's still"
|
412 |
+
405,20.03183333333333,20.07015,spk_0,part of what we should be considering. So instead of
|
413 |
+
406,20.07881666666667,20.117166666666662,spk_0,instead of like being highly focused on
|
414 |
+
407,20.12215,20.189666666666668,spk_0,"extremely nimble bundles, which is a thing, but"
|
415 |
+
408,20.192816666666666,20.21415,spk_0,mostly for
|
416 |
+
409,20.22615,20.25198333333333,spk_0,processing
|
417 |
+
410,20.25548333333333,20.27133333333333,spk_0,T BT S
|
418 |
+
411,20.28333333333333,20.361166666666666,spk_0,"that sort of thing rather than time transferring bytes on the wire, right?"
|
419 |
+
412,20.363166666666668,20.373166666666663,spk_0,So
|
420 |
+
413,20.392666666666667,20.43915,spk_0,there should definitely be strictness in the bundle in the budgets.
|
421 |
+
414,20.439316666666667,20.478316666666668,spk_0,But uh I think what we should definitely keep
|
422 |
+
415,20.478483333333333,20.560316666666665,spk_0,an eye on is for optimizing low processing times
|
423 |
+
416,20.58115,20.609483333333333,spk_0,"when showing that when, when"
|
424 |
+
417,20.621666666666663,20.63,spk_0,"gosh,"
|
425 |
+
418,20.630166666666668,20.68,spk_0,there's probably a better way to describe it from the moment the user acts
|
426 |
+
419,20.68016666666667,20.72898333333333,spk_0,and they get the data they want or they have the render they want.
|
427 |
+
420,20.73515,20.742,spk_0,Um
|
428 |
+
421,20.76448333333333,20.780483333333333,spk_0,So I think we definitely
|
429 |
+
422,20.78633333333333,20.800833333333333,spk_0,focus on
|
430 |
+
423,20.807983333333333,20.8505,spk_0,making sure that we pick meaningful metrics that
|
431 |
+
424,20.85748333333333,20.886166666666668,spk_0,forces into having
|
432 |
+
425,20.89583333333333,20.974816666666666,spk_0,"those restrictions into prioritizing the desired content first,"
|
433 |
+
426,20.98281666666667,21.050833333333333,spk_0,"all the way back from giddily, all the way to the front end application. Um"
|
434 |
+
427,21.078983333333333,21.087316666666663,spk_0,um
|
435 |
+
428,21.109483333333333,21.11448333333333,spk_0,"Yeah,"
|
436 |
+
429,21.12615,21.142333333333333,spk_0,I can see that coming.
|
437 |
+
430,21.145316666666663,21.157166666666665,spk_0,Um
|
438 |
+
431,21.178316666666667,21.215816666666665,spk_0,"So yeah, so that's my thoughts. Uh"
|
439 |
+
432,21.21865,21.29,spk_0,"But we should definitely discuss it in the, in the issue and uh try to advance that"
|
440 |
+
433,21.30033333333333,21.32133333333333,spk_0,uh a sequence.
|
441 |
+
434,21.3315,21.375333333333334,spk_0,"I'll, I'll share my thoughts there on that issue too."
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442 |
+
435,21.39515,21.409333333333333,spk_0,Any more?
|
443 |
+
436,21.41415,21.45948333333333,spk_0,Anyone has any more thoughts here today?
|
444 |
+
437,21.5875,21.607166666666668,spk_0,"All right, let's try to make"
|
445 |
+
438,21.618483333333334,21.6695,spk_0,these issues come to a first version
|
446 |
+
439,21.674316666666662,21.684166666666663,spk_0,soon.
|
447 |
+
440,21.68583333333333,21.693316666666668,spk_0,Uh
|
448 |
+
441,21.70883333333333,21.757483333333333,spk_0,"Remember, we might still revise the actual numbers as we go,"
|
449 |
+
442,21.75765,21.78915,spk_0,might still revise the actual things but
|
450 |
+
443,21.80198333333333,21.8375,spk_0,should definitely start to
|
451 |
+
444,21.842666666666663,21.950166666666668,spk_0,bring this up to a close because these are the framework on how everything else the
|
452 |
+
445,21.964316666666665,21.980316666666667,spk_0,um
|
453 |
+
446,21.982166666666668,21.989316666666667,spk_0,"for example,"
|
454 |
+
447,21.98948333333333,22.05933333333333,spk_0,"when we start discussing service side rendering or we start discussing streaming,"
|
455 |
+
448,22.059483333333333,22.108833333333333,spk_0,all of those things need to be looked at
|
456 |
+
449,22.11466666666667,22.15315,spk_0,in a framework of expectations and
|
457 |
+
450,22.159983333333333,22.20883333333333,spk_0,benchmarks are and budgets and we'll definitely
|
458 |
+
451,22.209,22.235666666666667,spk_0,need to have these already in place.
|
459 |
+
452,22.23583333333333,22.24315,spk_0,So
|
460 |
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453,22.24948333333333,22.279333333333334,spk_0,"the quicker we can get a first version, the better"
|
461 |
+
454,22.306666666666665,22.326316666666667,spk_0,which
|
462 |
+
455,22.33248333333333,22.348333333333333,spk_0,brings me
|
463 |
+
456,22.37215,22.38515,spk_0,to
|
464 |
+
457,22.389316666666662,22.41333333333333,spk_0,the accessibility thing.
|
465 |
+
458,22.415166666666668,22.426483333333334,spk_0,Um
|
466 |
+
459,22.45,22.483666666666668,spk_0,"Paul. No, I oh, you already replied."
|
467 |
+
460,22.507816666666667,22.51615,spk_3,Uh
|
468 |
+
461,22.518833333333333,22.528983333333333,spk_3,yes
|
469 |
+
462,22.5315,22.56365,spk_3,to your uh fantastic list.
|
470 |
+
463,22.58098333333333,22.59698333333333,spk_3,I did.
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471 |
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464,22.62133333333333,22.64348333333333,spk_0,"Uh Yeah,"
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472 |
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465,22.686,22.692816666666666,spk_0,yeah.
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473 |
+
466,22.69698333333333,22.70348333333333,spk_0,"So I,"
|
474 |
+
467,22.70365,22.771833333333333,spk_0,one of the things that came up in that in the accessibility for everybody to be aware
|
475 |
+
468,22.77533333333333,22.864316666666667,spk_0,is a lot of the guidelines come to the authoring of content. And in
|
476 |
+
469,22.86798333333333,22.874816666666668,spk_0,"DS,"
|
477 |
+
470,22.882166666666667,22.93465,spk_0,"I mean, as far as we consider authoring content"
|
478 |
+
471,22.938,23.00998333333333,spk_0,"is leaving comments, you can leave a comment with a little suggestion."
|
479 |
+
472,23.0125,23.07583333333333,spk_0,But essentially the authoring of content typically happens in the editor
|
480 |
+
473,23.076,23.1315,spk_0,"in the markdown editor or the content editor or something,"
|
481 |
+
474,23.138816666666667,23.172316666666667,spk_0,which means that we can
|
482 |
+
475,23.185666666666663,23.23498333333333,spk_0,"you can create some sort of guidelines for that tool,"
|
483 |
+
476,23.23648333333333,23.305816666666665,spk_0,but it's probably not gonna be implemented by the create teams themselves or
|
484 |
+
477,23.32648333333333,23.353483333333333,spk_0,"gosh, where is content editor?"
|
485 |
+
478,23.3715,23.437316666666668,spk_0,Is that plan or is that editor plan plan? So it will be
|
486 |
+
479,23.45815,23.466833333333334,spk_0,got it.
|
487 |
+
480,23.4715,23.50315,spk_0,So it would be coming over to the plan side.
|
488 |
+
481,23.503316666666667,23.57848333333333,spk_0,"We have to, we have to cross borders present our case, explain why this is important."
|
489 |
+
482,23.585316666666667,23.5905,spk_0,"And it's,"
|
490 |
+
483,23.59065,23.625833333333333,spk_0,it's fascinating the guidelines that Paulina presented
|
491 |
+
484,23.626,23.65115,spk_0,because a lot of the things is just
|
492 |
+
485,23.66415,23.7355,spk_0,helping the user realize that they're producing inaccessible content and
|
493 |
+
486,23.735666666666667,23.7945,spk_0,it's pretty much just highly focused on the editor experience.
|
494 |
+
487,23.801483333333334,23.858666666666668,spk_0,"Whereas other parts of the guidelines which I think makes more,"
|
495 |
+
488,23.858833333333333,23.89131666666667,spk_0,much more sense for our effort here.
|
496 |
+
489,23.90315,23.955483333333333,spk_0,Uh or at least that we can execute on is the navigation
|
497 |
+
490,23.959983333333334,24.02083333333333,spk_0,like navigating complex application with a lot of data.
|
498 |
+
491,24.02383333333333,24.067816666666666,spk_0,How can I make it easier for users with assistive technology
|
499 |
+
492,24.06798333333333,24.1565,spk_0,to navigate those by establishing expectations and establishing these things.
|
500 |
+
493,24.156666666666663,24.16733333333333,spk_0,Um
|
501 |
+
494,24.192166666666665,24.214666666666663,spk_0,OK. Um
|
502 |
+
495,24.22465,24.2985,spk_0,So just so I understand Paulina is the ball on your court there to produce?
|
503 |
+
496,24.30615,24.319,spk_0,Yes.
|
504 |
+
497,24.32665,24.33183333333333,spk_0,OK.
|
505 |
+
498,24.340816666666665,24.405166666666663,spk_0,"And then once we have that, we can probably move that over to the documentation"
|
506 |
+
499,24.4125,24.475666666666665,spk_0,together with the performance uh budgets that we're discussing above
|
507 |
+
500,24.48433333333333,24.518316666666667,spk_0,"and they're dependent, we can make them"
|
508 |
+
501,24.52316666666667,24.56683333333333,spk_0,committed or merge whenever they're ready. So
|
509 |
+
502,24.57783333333333,24.60683333333333,spk_0,"yeah, it's exciting. Definitely."
|
510 |
+
503,24.611,24.620316666666668,spk_0,Um
|
511 |
+
504,24.6385,24.649483333333333,spk_0,All right
|
512 |
+
505,24.66398333333333,24.680316666666663,spk_0,"with that,"
|
513 |
+
506,24.682483333333334,24.713,spk_0,he gets to the bottom of the agenda.
|
514 |
+
507,24.7155,24.73,spk_0,Um
|
515 |
+
508,24.75633333333333,24.83515,spk_0,Anybody has anything else they want to discuss uh things that might have been clear
|
516 |
+
509,24.854333333333333,24.869983333333334,spk_0,um
|
517 |
+
510,24.884166666666665,24.923,spk_0,that you wanna discuss or should we uh
|
518 |
+
511,24.926,24.955483333333333,spk_0,give some time back to people?
|
519 |
+
512,25.01533333333333,25.023983333333334,spk_5,Um
|
520 |
+
513,25.031666666666663,25.042,spk_5,"I,"
|
521 |
+
514,25.058666666666667,25.077666666666666,spk_5,"having worked in,"
|
522 |
+
515,25.079833333333333,25.098666666666663,spk_5,"yeah, having worked in the Diffs"
|
523 |
+
516,25.10148333333333,25.111,spk_5,App for
|
524 |
+
517,25.12248333333333,25.131666666666668,spk_5,um
|
525 |
+
518,25.138816666666667,25.165333333333333,spk_5,four plus years now.
|
526 |
+
519,25.173,25.275,spk_5,Um I'm not sure how complete that chart is that we added to the docs
|
527 |
+
520,25.279333333333334,25.324483333333333,spk_5,"and when I say I'm not sure. I mean, I literally don't know."
|
528 |
+
521,25.34548333333333,25.386333333333333,spk_5,It's not that I have concerns. I just don't know.
|
529 |
+
522,25.38915,25.45765,spk_5,"Um So yeah, Phil, I don't know if it, do, you know if it's like, is this everything,"
|
530 |
+
523,25.462666666666667,25.49748333333333,spk_5,"-- did we completely document this
|
531 |
+
-- here?"
|
532 |
+
524,25.513,25.5135,spk_6,That
|
533 |
+
525,25.51615,25.52265,spk_6,from
|
534 |
+
526,25.54148333333333,25.57048333333333,spk_6,"probably not. No,"
|
535 |
+
527,25.58465,25.64666666666667,spk_0,"I think we, I think we documented the the component tree, right?"
|
536 |
+
528,25.661816666666667,25.66283333333333,spk_0,But
|
537 |
+
529,25.67015,25.707166666666662,spk_0,"-- like
|
538 |
+
-- as close to"
|
539 |
+
530,25.71598333333333,25.75483333333333,spk_6,"what a normal dick would use to render,"
|
540 |
+
531,25.769166666666667,25.83416666666667,spk_6,but there's like loads of weird different views they get rendered as well
|
541 |
+
532,25.840166666666665,25.874816666666668,spk_6,that might not be documented properly.
|
542 |
+
533,25.88465,25.90748333333333,spk_6,And yet we haven't documented
|
543 |
+
534,25.91015,25.93016666666667,spk_6,the data side of things.
|
544 |
+
535,25.9945,26.01148333333333,spk_5,Is it worth
|
545 |
+
536,26.03298333333333,26.06198333333333,spk_5,going back through it?
|
546 |
+
537,26.116666666666667,26.1465,spk_5,"So, having, having converted the X"
|
547 |
+
538,26.1485,26.14915,spk_5,Cora
|
548 |
+
539,26.152666666666665,26.19098333333333,spk_5,"to this mermaid chart, like I didn't,"
|
549 |
+
540,26.207316666666667,26.215,spk_5,"I mean,"
|
550 |
+
541,26.232166666666668,26.27648333333333,spk_5,"it didn't have a red flag go off like, oh, I know it's missing this."
|
551 |
+
542,26.27665,26.319166666666668,spk_5,"And so I don't know what, what I would do."
|
552 |
+
543,26.323166666666665,26.34348333333333,spk_5,I guess it would just to step through the
|
553 |
+
544,26.34365,26.396166666666662,spk_5,code and just see if there's any branches missing
|
554 |
+
545,26.39915,26.42848333333333,spk_5,"as we go through this chart, which"
|
555 |
+
546,26.4375,26.45115,spk_5,is doable.
|
556 |
+
547,26.49,26.555,spk_6,"That's why I did at the time of create it. But that was like a year ago, a year or so. So"
|
557 |
+
548,26.57048333333333,26.592166666666667,spk_6,there's probably a lot changed since then.
|
558 |
+
549,26.632166666666667,26.6545,spk_5,"I mean, maybe it's just worth,"
|
559 |
+
550,26.6695,26.72065,spk_5,maybe I should just go in and edit the stock and say like
|
560 |
+
551,26.728816666666667,26.744666666666667,spk_5,this is
|
561 |
+
552,26.760316666666668,26.78333333333333,spk_5,this could be incomplete.
|
562 |
+
553,26.794816666666662,26.80365,spk_5,"Don't,"
|
563 |
+
554,26.822316666666666,26.863333333333333,spk_5,don't like use this as the source of truth.
|
564 |
+
555,26.87448333333333,26.942666666666668,spk_0,"So this is a really good point because we, when we talked about this,"
|
565 |
+
556,26.942816666666666,27.00798333333333,spk_0,the whole goal of document the current state is to guide us
|
566 |
+
557,27.011816666666668,27.03265,spk_0,uh in
|
567 |
+
558,27.046,27.10365,spk_0,identifying an ideal architecture. OK? It's not
|
568 |
+
559,27.10833333333333,27.125666666666667,spk_0,the architecture.
|
569 |
+
560,27.12983333333333,27.193316666666668,spk_0,"But for example, what we can already see like when we look at these,"
|
570 |
+
561,27.19965,27.251483333333333,spk_0,like there's a lot of stuff here that are um
|
571 |
+
562,27.26815,27.30115,spk_0,also applicable in the repository.
|
572 |
+
563,27.301316666666665,27.373,spk_0,So we can probably abstract this in a way that is generalized to all contexts.
|
573 |
+
564,27.3795,27.3945,spk_0,Uh Like
|
574 |
+
565,27.39915,27.42083333333333,spk_0,"when you're looking at a commit,"
|
575 |
+
566,27.43698333333333,27.47615,spk_0,"we're looking at at a commit in a repository,"
|
576 |
+
567,27.476316666666666,27.52083333333333,spk_0,"there will be renamed files in those commits, right?"
|
577 |
+
568,27.52415,27.536166666666663,spk_0,Um
|
578 |
+
569,27.55365,27.5875,spk_0,"And we're looking at comparing the branches,"
|
579 |
+
570,27.59065,27.6085,spk_0,it will be there
|
580 |
+
571,27.612316666666665,27.64131666666667,spk_0,that will be renamed too uh
|
581 |
+
572,27.67398333333333,27.740166666666667,spk_0,"bearing branches. We always also catch, yeah, I think it it would."
|
582 |
+
573,27.744983333333334,27.79565,spk_0,Um so we can start already starting to see that there's
|
583 |
+
574,27.79583333333333,27.84698333333333,spk_0,a bunch of things here that are common for every case of
|
584 |
+
575,27.85548333333333,27.89365,spk_0,the diff there's probably some areas here in this
|
585 |
+
576,27.893833333333333,27.94233333333333,spk_0,"tree that don't make sense for the repository,"
|
586 |
+
577,27.9425,27.988333333333333,spk_0,which we could take notes and then we can help
|
587 |
+
578,27.997316666666663,28.03833333333333,spk_0,um that can help the conversation.
|
588 |
+
579,28.041316666666667,28.051483333333334,spk_0,"In,"
|
589 |
+
580,28.064666666666668,28.11365,spk_0,"for example, one of the things that we've talked already is the"
|
590 |
+
581,28.12065,28.161816666666667,spk_0,that would be sort of part of the architecture is
|
591 |
+
582,28.176,28.188816666666668,spk_0,um
|
592 |
+
583,28.217666666666663,28.3025,spk_0,the viewers for the types of file um where we can have um
|
593 |
+
584,28.318316666666668,28.37398333333333,spk_0,"like if it's an image, if it's a text, if it's a binary, all that stuff."
|
594 |
+
585,28.38115,28.403983333333333,spk_0,"But more than that,"
|
595 |
+
586,28.40615,28.415983333333333,spk_0,that
|
596 |
+
587,28.43,28.52316666666667,spk_0,Eduardo rec uh suggested is to also include a way that we can have
|
597 |
+
588,28.532,28.609,spk_0,a rendered version of the diff which would benefit some cases
|
598 |
+
589,28.609166666666667,28.68265,spk_0,"like the uh Jupiter notebooks and potentially others uh mark down,"
|
599 |
+
590,28.682816666666668,28.69633333333333,spk_0,for example.
|
600 |
+
591,28.70381666666667,28.71565,spk_0,Um
|
601 |
+
592,28.73915,28.771166666666662,spk_0,And that's the kind of decisions we need to support
|
602 |
+
593,28.77133333333333,28.836816666666667,spk_0,here in that architecture is support different ways to render
|
603 |
+
594,28.84115,28.84915,spk_0,"sorry,"
|
604 |
+
595,28.85483333333333,28.887316666666667,spk_0,support different ways to display the D
|
605 |
+
596,28.89065,28.9085,spk_0,to the user
|
606 |
+
597,28.91483333333333,28.986166666666666,spk_0,um which will extract out of this diagram. And this um
|
607 |
+
598,29.006833333333333,29.026816666666665,spk_0,"knowledge I would say,"
|
608 |
+
599,29.09115,29.096833333333333,spk_0,"yeah,"
|
609 |
+
600,29.126316666666668,29.13383333333333,spk_0,go ahead.
|
610 |
+
601,29.14883333333333,29.167816666666667,spk_5,"Oh I just said, OK."
|
611 |
+
602,29.17415,29.190166666666663,spk_0,OK. Cool.
|
612 |
+
603,29.23465,29.259816666666666,spk_0,Um Cook.
|
613 |
+
604,29.30815,29.3675,spk_0,What I would also say we don't have to have everything in one diagram.
|
614 |
+
605,29.36766666666667,29.387833333333333,spk_0,If we have another way of
|
615 |
+
606,29.389666666666667,29.405166666666663,spk_0,presenting
|
616 |
+
607,29.414666666666665,29.467666666666663,spk_0,"other parts, I know that the back end did several"
|
617 |
+
608,29.469666666666665,29.49633333333333,spk_0,charts when we go
|
618 |
+
609,29.50933333333333,29.574483333333333,spk_0,the flow and then this like different ways of communicating things
|
619 |
+
610,29.58465,29.64348333333333,spk_0,uh especially when we're talking about different components and different parts
|
620 |
+
611,29.64715,29.672816666666662,spk_0,like Italy and all that stuff.
|
621 |
+
612,29.6775,29.755,spk_0,Um So we can present parts of the application and data flows differently.
|
622 |
+
613,29.755166666666668,29.82215,spk_0,We don't have to be restricted to one particular diagram. OK.
|
623 |
+
614,29.83065,29.852666666666668,spk_0,"If it makes it harder,"
|
624 |
+
615,29.86598333333333,29.9235,spk_0,"uh just split into multiple diagrams and we can have a different perspective,"
|
625 |
+
616,29.923666666666666,29.973666666666663,spk_0,"a different view or different lens on the data flow, for example."
|
626 |
+
617,30.002333333333333,30.014316666666662,spk_0,Cool.
|
627 |
+
618,30.02015,30.02415,spk_0,Uh
|
628 |
+
619,30.02733333333333,30.04833333333333,spk_0,So
|
629 |
+
620,30.05516666666667,30.069816666666668,spk_0,anything
|
630 |
+
621,30.09498333333333,30.117816666666663,spk_0,anything else
|
631 |
+
622,30.152833333333334,30.196,spk_2,I just wanted to add that we probably need a
|
632 |
+
623,30.196166666666667,30.265816666666662,spk_2,chart of all the these features that we have because
|
633 |
+
624,30.275,30.365166666666667,spk_2,"the structure is one thing but also inside each of the components, it might contain"
|
634 |
+
625,30.3695,30.41998333333333,spk_2,five different features for a particular view.
|
635 |
+
626,30.42665,30.494816666666665,spk_2,And like an image preview can have a commenting functionality
|
636 |
+
627,30.49948333333333,30.5465,spk_2,"that you can click anywhere on the image and leave a comment,"
|
637 |
+
628,30.555983333333334,30.59115,spk_2,uh text files have
|
638 |
+
629,30.602166666666665,30.658666666666665,spk_2,"side by side view in line view, no white space view."
|
639 |
+
630,30.663166666666665,30.707316666666667,spk_2,So stuff like that. And since we are
|
640 |
+
631,30.71165,30.7295,spk_2,moving to a new
|
641 |
+
632,30.734,30.755816666666668,spk_2,"des architecture,"
|
642 |
+
633,30.759,30.78383333333333,spk_2,we probably should
|
643 |
+
634,30.79515,30.817816666666666,spk_2,uh satisfy
|
644 |
+
635,30.82215,30.863816666666665,spk_2,this uh feature parity
|
645 |
+
636,30.876,30.90315,spk_2,uh with what we have right now.
|
646 |
+
637,30.903316666666665,30.954166666666666,spk_2,So I think it makes sense to document everything that we have.
|
647 |
+
638,30.95433333333333,31.026316666666663,spk_2,"So once we move to a new architecture, we don't miss any of the features."
|
648 |
+
639,31.092816666666668,31.101983333333333,spk_0,"All right,"
|
649 |
+
640,31.109166666666667,31.17065,spk_0,"you wanna start an issue with that Stanislav because I feel like that's a, a separate"
|
650 |
+
641,31.18065,31.19098333333333,spk_0,um
|
651 |
+
642,31.194333333333333,31.235316666666662,spk_0,effort and it's not necessarily a
|
652 |
+
643,31.23865,31.29715,spk_0,"front end thing. We might, we might involve product here as well"
|
653 |
+
644,31.302333333333333,31.33315,spk_0,to ensure that we um
|
654 |
+
645,31.342,31.3625,spk_0,that we're covered.
|
655 |
+
646,31.37333333333333,31.417,spk_0,"Of course, we can look at the code and that's definitely a way to get that."
|
656 |
+
647,31.4255,31.433666666666667,spk_0,But
|
657 |
+
648,31.4485,31.493316666666665,spk_0,what I want us to have is
|
658 |
+
649,31.507816666666667,31.52316666666667,spk_0,that definitely makes sense.
|
659 |
+
650,31.523333333333333,31.550166666666662,spk_0,"Like feature parody makes sense,"
|
660 |
+
651,31.55033333333333,31.60598333333333,spk_0,but maybe not every feature needs to be available everywhere.
|
661 |
+
652,31.613333333333333,31.650166666666667,spk_0,Uh or there could be some
|
662 |
+
653,31.655,31.6775,spk_0,tiered approach. So
|
663 |
+
654,31.68583333333333,31.69965,spk_0,"-- I was just gonna
|
664 |
+
-- imagine that our,"
|
665 |
+
655,31.699816666666667,31.790816666666668,spk_5,our uh our order of priorities puts future coverage actually as
|
666 |
+
656,31.797816666666662,31.85683333333333,spk_5,"-- a third on the list. So
|
667 |
+
-- by design,"
|
668 |
+
657,31.863333333333333,31.87698333333333,spk_5,"yeah, and,"
|
669 |
+
658,31.88115,31.92665,spk_5,and the um all those things you mentioned are correct.
|
670 |
+
659,31.926816666666667,31.98281666666667,spk_5,"They, they are sort of covered in that chart very abstractly like"
|
671 |
+
660,31.988983333333334,32.0485,spk_5,dro I think is what's handling parallel versus in line and like
|
672 |
+
661,32.04866666666667,32.10466666666667,spk_5,design pin is what's handling like being able to click anywhere.
|
673 |
+
662,32.10531666666667,32.16683333333334,spk_5,"So like they're, they're in there, it's just not like explicitly mentioned."
|
674 |
+
663,32.167,32.23231666666667,spk_5,So it probably is good to like list out the features that each component covers.
|
675 |
+
664,32.26381666666666,32.2795,spk_0,"I hate to say it,"
|
676 |
+
665,32.28281666666667,32.33931666666667,spk_0,"but it feels like this is a spreadsheet. It should be a spreadsheet or,"
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677 |
+
666,32.341833333333334,32.389316666666666,spk_0,or a marked on table. I don't care.
|
678 |
+
667,32.39698333333333,32.402166666666666,spk_0,"But,"
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679 |
+
668,32.413983333333334,32.49531666666667,spk_0,but essentially it looks like we need to have like an array of like features and then
|
680 |
+
669,32.500166666666665,32.57083333333333,spk_0,try to make a decision about whether they're applicable to all the contexts of des
|
681 |
+
670,32.57465,32.63016666666667,spk_0,"or not. Like for now, we should definitely base it off"
|
682 |
+
671,32.644816666666664,32.68515,spk_0,the domains we currently have.
|
683 |
+
672,32.685316666666665,32.72431666666667,spk_0,I don't know if you have any features on
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684 |
+
673,32.72448333333333,32.774316666666664,spk_0,"the repository commit that are not an emerging quest,"
|
685 |
+
674,32.786,32.79233333333333,spk_0,but
|
686 |
+
675,32.805483333333335,32.86333333333333,spk_0,"maybe that's why we should go and take a look. So it feels like it's a, it's a"
|
687 |
+
676,32.87015,32.88115,spk_0,um
|
688 |
+
677,32.893316666666664,32.92698333333333,spk_0,"a feature, a feature table"
|
689 |
+
678,32.950833333333335,32.982483333333334,spk_0,for all the different contexts.
|
690 |
+
679,32.98265,33.07183333333333,spk_0,Uh and then just uh mark a cross or a check mark where they are available
|
691 |
+
680,33.07698333333333,33.11266666666667,spk_0,and potentially can have a discussion about whether
|
692 |
+
681,33.112833333333334,33.1465,spk_0,they should be available and everywhere or not.
|
693 |
+
682,33.14715,33.186483333333335,spk_0,"Uh And potentially, yeah, but that,"
|
694 |
+
683,33.18665,33.23915,spk_0,that feature table will be useful uh later on when we're
|
695 |
+
684,33.23931666666667,33.29281666666667,spk_0,deciding exactly about where to cut and what are the implications.
|
696 |
+
685,33.29298333333333,33.29915,spk_0,Because
|
697 |
+
686,33.301,33.32983333333333,spk_0,"for example, um"
|
698 |
+
687,33.38231666666667,33.403483333333334,spk_0,this could be controversial.
|
699 |
+
688,33.4105,33.42333333333333,spk_0,"I warn you,"
|
700 |
+
689,33.436483333333335,33.48265,spk_0,should we leave comments on a repository commit?
|
701 |
+
690,33.523833333333336,33.58265,spk_0,"That's a product decision. It's not a technical decision, it's a product decision."
|
702 |
+
691,33.582816666666666,33.592666666666666,spk_0,And
|
703 |
+
692,33.59866666666667,33.611983333333335,spk_0,"to be honest,"
|
704 |
+
693,33.6335,33.69515,spk_0,"there is arguments, I'm just saying there are arguments."
|
705 |
+
694,33.69748333333333,33.70981666666667,spk_0,Uh
|
706 |
+
695,33.71581666666667,33.73515,spk_0,Maybe I agree with them
|
707 |
+
696,33.7385,33.759816666666666,spk_0,that um
|
708 |
+
697,33.763983333333336,33.79,spk_0,"if you leave a comedy in a commit,"
|
709 |
+
698,33.796166666666664,33.86516666666667,spk_0,"there's nobody looking at that commit, maybe the author will get a notification,"
|
710 |
+
699,33.873,33.883833333333335,spk_0,I guess.
|
711 |
+
700,33.89915,33.941316666666665,spk_0,But in emerging request is the moment that everybody is looking at that
|
712 |
+
701,33.94148333333333,33.98898333333333,spk_0,code or at least people are looking at that code to be reviewed.
|
713 |
+
702,33.98915,34.071983333333336,spk_0,"But when it's a repository, it's at, it's at rest. It's a, it's a it's a code at rest."
|
714 |
+
703,34.07881666666667,34.094166666666666,spk_0,"So,"
|
715 |
+
704,34.098333333333336,34.135,spk_0,should we allow discussions to happen there?
|
716 |
+
705,34.147666666666666,34.18165,spk_0,That's a more of a product UX decision.
|
717 |
+
706,34.1835,34.25398333333333,spk_0,And I think that table will help us make those conversations easier. So
|
718 |
+
707,34.27633333333333,34.29848333333333,spk_0,ST has left an open an issue for that
|
719 |
+
708,34.30298333333333,34.32065,spk_0,and get the ball rolling.
|
720 |
+
709,34.335633333333334,34.35015,spk_0,"I already did it,"
|
721 |
+
710,34.35565,34.377633333333335,spk_2,linking it right now in South.
|
722 |
+
711,34.41048333333333,34.4335,spk_0,Amazing. Amazing.
|
723 |
+
712,34.43581666666667,34.44798333333333,spk_0,Thank you.
|
724 |
+
713,34.451166666666666,34.46033333333333,spk_0,Awesome.
|
725 |
+
714,34.46596666666667,34.51266666666667,spk_0,I'll also take Kai on that to help us out. Uh
|
726 |
+
715,34.52415,34.607816666666665,spk_0,"And uh and then we can make um there so Jacques from, from source code side,"
|
727 |
+
716,34.60796666666667,34.643166666666666,spk_0,it would be great for us to um
|
728 |
+
717,34.65313333333334,34.742666666666665,spk_0,pull in. Also if you uh wanna uh discover the product a little bit going on a journey
|
729 |
+
718,34.75796666666667,34.81946666666666,spk_0,"to also add the source code perspective on these because again,"
|
730 |
+
719,34.8225,34.876666666666665,spk_0,there might be features in source code that we would like to have
|
731 |
+
720,34.88263333333333,34.9345,spk_0,on the merger quest. I can't remember anything but
|
732 |
+
721,34.93698333333333,34.955666666666666,spk_0,maybe I'm missing something.
|
733 |
+
722,34.967166666666664,34.976166666666664,spk_0,Um
|
734 |
+
723,34.989983333333335,35.03766666666667,spk_0,"So yeah, basically what I'm saying is let's crowdsource that issue"
|
735 |
+
724,35.04481666666667,35.12448333333333,spk_0,"uh and uh whatever way of doing it, the table a spreadsheet or, or something, just"
|
736 |
+
725,35.12916666666667,35.170833333333334,spk_0,let's all collaborating and making that evolve. OK.
|
737 |
+
726,35.2175,35.23615,spk_0,Sweet.
|
738 |
+
727,35.24815,35.275166666666664,spk_0,Thanks. Standard Life. That's useful.
|
739 |
+
728,35.301,35.30466666666667,spk_0,Mm
|
740 |
+
729,35.334833333333336,35.34498333333333,spk_0,What else
|
741 |
+
730,35.35698333333333,35.367333333333335,spk_0,are we good
|
742 |
+
731,35.38315,35.39148333333333,spk_0,for now?
|
743 |
+
732,35.491483333333335,35.49783333333333,spk_0,"All right,"
|
744 |
+
733,35.49798333333333,35.52715,spk_0,we can use the rest of the time to go into
|
745 |
+
734,35.527316666666664,35.5935,spk_0,the issues and uh share our thoughts and make those discussions.
|
746 |
+
735,35.593666666666664,35.60183333333333,spk_0,Go ahead.
|
747 |
+
736,35.61215,35.63581666666666,spk_0,Uh Thanks everybody
|
748 |
+
737,35.64216666666667,35.7125,spk_0,and uh thanks for your time and I'll see you around and in another call perhaps
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