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If he's not, I will. Put two riders on identical machines. It's the
one who knows what he's doing, and why, that will be faster. It *may*
be possible to improve your technique if you have no idea what it is,
through trial and error, but it is not very effective methodology.
Only by understanding the technique of steering a motorcycle can one
improve on that technique (I hold that this applies to any human
endeavor).
Do you consider an understanding of the physics of traction absurd?
Are you seriously suggesting that one can form a traction management
policy without understanding what it is or what factors increase or
decrease available traction? Braking?
It is highly unlikely that any biker is going to develop his maximum
swerving ability without any knowledge of turning techniques. For most
of his riding life this may not be a problem, but in an emergency
situation it is very definately placing him at a disadvantage.
I disagree. The existance and immense success of riding courses which
teach the technique indicate that the concept can be taught in a manner
that is neither confusing, nor detracts from any other aspects of the
course.
Perhaps, but in the ensuing discussion, you strayed far from that
point, to claim that knowledge of steering technique is irrelevant to a
rider's ability. I find this assertion ludicrous.
| rec.motorcycles |
Pete Young, on the Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:29:21 GMT wibbled:
: : Tsk, tsk, tsk. Another newbie bites the dust, eh? They'll learn.
: Newbie. Sorry to disappoint you, but as far as the Internet goes I was
: in Baghdad while you were still in your dads bag.
Is this bit funny?
: Most of the people who made this group interesting 3 or 4 years ago
: are no longer around and I only have time to make a random sweep
: once a week or so. Hence I missed most of this thread.
I'm terribly sorry.
: Based on your previous postings, apparently devoid of humour, sarcasm,
: wit, or the apparent capacity to walk and chew gum at the same time, I
: assumed you were serious. Mea culpa.
I know, I know. Subtlety is sort of, you know, subtle, isn't it.
: Still, it's nice to see that BNR are doing so well that they can afford
: to overpay some contractors to sit and read news all day.
That's foreign firms for you.
..and a touchy newbie, at that.
What's the matter, too much starch in the undies?
--
Nick (the Considerate Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford None Gum-Chewer
M'Lud. | rec.motorcycles |
Only if you persist in believing that Peter Gammons is more knowledgable about
baseball than the average mailbox. Okay, I'm overstating. Still, the man
actually had the gall to say that one out of every six pitchers in the NL this
year did not pitch in the majors last year.
Huh?
IMO, this expansion will not see the explosive jump in offense that the
other expansion drafts had, since the talent was diluted over both leagues.
In Gammons' defense, because the talent drain came from the AL as well, some
increase will be seen. He also gets credit for mentioning that the 1969 jump
in offense was due also to the rules changes after the 1968 season. He's still
full of it...
| rec.sport.baseball |
Well, I'd say you're mostly right, but for different reasons. (BTW, as of a
couple years ago, the most stolen bikes in Orange County and SF were 750
GSX's and Ninjas). Probably the biggest reason BMWs aren't ripped off is that
most people who buy BMWs will only deal with the actual BMW dealer, or mail-
order types. Most of these can have their inventory checked fairly easily
by law-enforcement types, and their mark-up is usually sufficient to keep
them honest about acquiring parts.
For Harleys and rice-rockets, you've got 2 different situations. There is a
HUGE aftermarket in Harley parts, so a bike can be parted out fairly easily.
Ditto the non-sport Japanese bikes, but the prices on the parts for these are
not as high, comparatively. For the 'rockets', anytime a bike goes down, the
plastic is usually cracked, and is expensive to replace. It's fairly easy,
then, for a disreputable shop to take a fairing from a stolen bike, slap it
on a bike in for repair, repaint it, and make a tidy profit. The other parts,
more traceable, can be used, or discarded if they are too traceable.
Mike | rec.motorcycles |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I thought it was: "There are two kinds of people in the world. Those who
think there are two kinds of people and those who don't."
And then there's: "There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who
like math and those who don't."
Obmoto: Michigan weather forecast for Saturday: high in the low 40s,
chance of snow flurries, showers possible. Enjoy the weather where you
are. Have a ride on me.
| rec.motorcycles |
The new name is Florida Panthers.
The panther is an endangered species, mostly located in the Everglades.
A couple of years ago, there were license plates made with Panthers on
them (part of the revenue were to go to some protection fund).
The name of the new President of the Panthers should be announced today.
As of yesterday's paper, Huizenga's new hockey team will take the ice at
the Miami Arena this fall. The team has a guaranteed two-year lease with
the arena, with four one-year options that could run through 1999.
"It's not our choice", James Blosser, a lawyer and Huizenga Aid said
about ruling out the arena as a long term option. "The NHL told us we
can't stay there. It's not economically feasible."
One reason is because the Miami Heat basketball team controls skybox
and advertising revenue at the arena, reducing the hockey team's profit
potential.
The hockey team is attracting arena site proposals from Broward, Dade,
and Palm Beach counties.
A leading site is vacant land near Joe Robbie Stadium, where residents
10 days ago agreed to drop their opposition to a hockey arena, ending
an eight-year battle of wills.
Compliments of the News/Sun-Sentinel.
Jim G. | rec.sport.hockey |
They tried their best not to show it, believe me. I'm surprised they
couldn't find a sprint car race (mini cars through pigpens, indeed!)
on short notice.
George | rec.sport.hockey |
If I have one thing to say about "No Fault" it would be
"It isn't" | rec.motorcycles |
On two separate occasions I saw Dick Allen (back when he was Richie)
homer at Shea off the middle of the black centerfield hitter's
background screen. I think both shots would have traveled 500 feet. | rec.sport.baseball |
I must have missed the article on the Spagthorpe Viking. Was
that the one with the little illuminated Dragon's Head on the front
fender, a style later copied by Indian, and the round side covers?
[accident deleted]
You can forget this line of reasoning. When an animal
decides to take you, there's nothing you can do about it. It has
something to do with their genetics. I was putting along at a
mere 20mph or so, gravel road with few loose rocks on it (as in,
just like bad concrete), and 2200lbs of swinging beef jumped a
fence, came out of the ditch, and rammed me! When I saw her jump
the fence I went for the gas, since she was about 20 feet ahead
of me but a good forty to the side. Damn cow literally chased me
down and nailed me. No damage to cow, a bent case guard and a
severely annoyed rider were the only casualties. If I had my
shotgun I'd still be eating steak. Nope, if 2200lbs of cow
can hit me when I'm actively evading, forget a much more
manueverable dog. Just run them over. | rec.motorcycles |
Society, as we have known it, it coming apart at the seams! The basic reason
is that human life has been devalued to the point were killing someone is
"No Big Deal". Kid's see hundreds on murderous acts on TV, we can abort
children on demand, and kill the sick and old at will. So why be surprised
when some kids drop 20 lbs rocks and kill people. They don't care because the
message they hear is "Life is Cheap"! | rec.autos |
I meant to comment on this at the time.
There's just no way baserunning could be that important - if it was,
runs created wouldn't be nearly as accurate as it is.
Runs Created is usually about 90-95% accurate on a team level, and
there's a lot more than baserunning that has to account for the
remaining percent. | rec.sport.baseball |
I'll post a summary after I get enough information. I'll include
tips like "how to know when the monkey is pulling your leg". Shouldn't
monkey's have to be bonded and insured before they work on bikes?
Jack Waters II
DoD#1919 | rec.motorcycles |
But,
THEY FACED THE PHILLIES -- A TEAM THAT GOT OFF TO AN 8-1 START.
To be honest, I think the city of Houston loves the new owner. He has
brought baseball back to Houston with key acquisitions -- players that
were from the Houston area and wanted to play for the Astros. I don't
think that too many people are fearful that McLane will meddle in the team
as he has already admitted that he doesn't know a whole lot about baseball.
McLane is a businessman, and doesn't like excuses. He makes a valid point
that injuries shouldn't be an excuse to this club. Look at the depth of the
bench this season.. Canadele can play 7 positions; Bass and James are solid
outfielders and can hit well too; Uribe is nice to have as well.. The
pitching staff has 6 legitimate starters. We're dealing with a young
Houston team, so injuries shouldn't play a big role. The only threat is
the bullpen -- if Jonesy goes out, we may be in trouble but with the
type of starters we have this season, there is less pressure on the pen. | rec.sport.baseball |
I took an alcohol server's class a few years ago. (What the hey- my employer
paid for it...)
We were told that the 1 drink / hour rule was written with 80 proof booze
and a 195 pound person in mind. Drinking Cuervo Gold, weighing in @ 140,
I obviously will get drunk faster than the theoretical person mentioned
above. Worse, imagine Rum & coke made with Bacardi 151...
Mind you all, that's for getting too drunk to drive a car. I may only
have been riding for a month or so, but I plan my evenings with a very
rigid exclusive or statement: Either don't drink, or don't ride.
Pretty simple.
Sorry, mike, I have to believe that that policy works best as fertilizer,
even if all you plan to do is drive home nice and "safe" in your cage...
| rec.motorcycles |
Compiled from the last five Defensive Average reports, here are the career
DAs for the individual players in the reports. Stats are courtesy of
Sherri Nichols. Players are listed in descending order.
Third Basemen
-------------
Name 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 88-92
Mitchell, Kevin .690 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.690
Gonzales, Rene .685 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.685
Leius, Scott ---- ---- ---- .653 .680 0.672
Pendleton, Terry .692 .685 .631 .689 .634 0.667
Ventura, Robin ---- ---- .641 .647 .677 0.657
Wallach, Tim .728 .674 .600 .630 .665 0.657
Gruber, Kelly .717 .657 .580 .630 .664 0.650
Pagliarulo, Mike .631 ---- .575 .744 ---- 0.649
Harris, Lance ---- ---- .642 .652 ---- 0.648
Howell, Jack .656 .666 .609 ---- ---- 0.647
Williams, Matt ---- ---- .633 .653 .656 0.647
Caminiti, Ken ---- .675 .630 .653 .596 0.642
Sabo, Chris .751 .626 .616 .613 .575 0.642
Gaetti, Gary .616 .638 .655 .632 ---- 0.637
Buechele, Steve .647 .616 .647 .681 .599 0.635
Salazar, Luis ---- .617 .643 .637 ---- 0.632
Pecota, Bill ---- ---- ---- .629 ---- 0.629
Schmidt, Mike .628 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.628
Riles, Ernie ---- .627 ---- ---- ---- 0.627
Boggs, Wade .643 .659 .550 .653 .634 0.626
Martinez, Egdar ---- ---- .621 .645 .599 0.624
Molitor, Paul .633 .617 ---- ---- ---- 0.624
Phillips, Tony ---- ---- .623 ---- ---- 0.623
*NL Average* .643 .625 .602 .623 .603 0.619
Brookens, Tom .616 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.616
King, Jeff ---- ---- .616 ---- ---- 0.616
Seitzer, Kevin .654 .583 .593 ---- .635 0.616
*AL Average* .641 .612 .604 .620 .602 0.615
Jacoby, Brook .624 .621 .600 ---- .597 0.613
Hansen, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .611 0.611
Law, Vance .635 .576 ---- ---- ---- 0.611
Magadan, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .609 0.609
Jefferies, Greg ---- ---- ---- ---- .606 0.606
Sharperson, Mike ---- ---- .606 ---- ---- 0.606
Zeile, Todd ---- ---- ---- .614 .593 0.605
Baerga, Carlos ---- ---- ---- .604 ---- 0.604
Hayes, Chris ---- .601 .622 .606 .574 0.602
Livingstone, Scott ---- ---- ---- ---- .597 0.597
Hamilton, J. .611 .584 ---- ---- ---- 0.595
Kelly, Pat ---- ---- ---- .595 ---- 0.595
Lyons, Steve .590 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.590
Oberkfell, Ken .590 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.590
Johnson, Howard .628 .549 .611 .573 ---- 0.588
Bell, Buddy .587 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.587
Lansford, Carney .620 .578 .594 ---- .550 0.587
Presley, Jim .643 .595 .530 ---- ---- 0.584
Schu, Rick ---- .584 ---- ---- ---- 0.584
Worthington, Cal ---- .583 .575 ---- ---- 0.580
Hollins, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .577 0.577
Sheffield, Gary ---- ---- .584 ---- .567 0.575
Blauser, Jeff ---- .573 ---- ---- ---- 0.573
Fryman, Travis ---- ---- ---- .571 ---- 0.571
Gantner, Jim ---- ---- ---- .570 ---- 0.570
Gomez, Lee ---- ---- ---- .551 .542 0.546
Palmer, Dean ---- ---- ---- ---- .520 0.520
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| ([email protected]) |*| Grad Student At Large | rec.sport.baseball |
little.
I know what you mean! I glow everytime Ronnie's out on the ice.
In fact, one of the neatest things about seeing the Pens in person
is that I can key in on him instead of watching what I'd probably
be seeing on tv. He does so many subtle things behind the play.
He said in an interview recently that when he was a kid his dad
stressed the importance of playing two-way hockey; that you have to
learn how to play defense as well as offense and he obviously took
that advice to heart. He was a breath of fresh air when he arrived
in Pittsburgh to the team whose forwards, for the most part, couldn't
and wouldn't play a lick of defense.
It's really difficult to assess what the key trades were that brought
all of this success to the Pens. You mention Rick Tocchet and he has
certainly helped, and even ol' Kjell has been steady. But looking at
this team you could almost take any one of them out of the line-up
permanently and replace them with an extremely mediocre player and it
wouldn't matter.
If I had to pick the top three acquisitions in recent years they would
be 1) Tom Barrasso; 2) Ron Francis; 3) Larry Murphy. (I'd love to put
Francis first but I do think the only thing that could really damage
the Pens right now would be to lose Barrasso.) | rec.sport.hockey |
If your buying a compact pickup do yourself a favor and wait a few months
for the 1994 GMC sonoma. Magazines are saying it is day and night over the
current truck. It's georgeous, solid, and fast (200hp Vortec 4.3 V-6).
Should whip the Ranger in every area too (accept maybe payload). And always
pick a GMC over a Chevy. GMC's are always so much better looking. Man, I
miss the Comanche.
Marty and Matt Owings
'87 250 ninja type rider dudes
"It's a feeling that we all wanna know
and it's an obsession to some
to keep the world in you rearview mirror
while you try to run down the sun" | rec.autos |
The umps saw the weekend boxscores, too. They knew the pitchers needed
some help or they would be watching the sunrise. :) | rec.sport.baseball |
Say, you bought your Saturn at $13k, with a dealer profit of $2k.
If the dealer profit is $1000, then you would only be paying $12k for
the same car. So isn't that saving money?
Moreover, if Saturn really does reduce the dealer profit margin by $1000,
then their cars will be even better deals. Say, if the price of a Saturn was
already $1000 below market average for the class of cars, then after they
reduce the dealer profit, it would be $2000 below market average. It will:
1) Attract even more people to buy Saturns because it would SAVE THEM MONEY.
2) Force the competitors to lower their prices to survive.
Now, not only will Saturn owners benefit from a lower dealer profit, even
the buyers for other cars will pay less.
Isn't that saving money?
| rec.autos |
JL-NS>Subject: Re: Motorcycle Courier (Summer Job)
I'd like to thank everyone who replied. I will probably start looking in
earnest after May, when I return from my trip down the Pacific Coast
(the geographical feature, not the bike).
Ryan Cousinetc.|1982 Yamaha Vision XZ550 -Black Pig of Inverness|Live to Ride
KotRB |1958 AJS 500 C/S -King Rat |to Work to
DoD# 0863 |I'd be a squid if I could afford the bike... |Flame to
[email protected] | Vancouver, BC, Canada |Live . . .
* SLMR 2.1a * Have bike, will travel. Quickly. Very quickly.
| rec.motorcycles |
Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking)
Cellular phones and mobile fax machines (see above)
Vanity mirrors on the driver's side.
Ashtrays (smokers seem to think it's just fine to use the road)
Fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs.
Any gold trim.
| rec.autos |
In <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes...
I would appreciate it if you would not refer to Mr. Maynard by his
initials. Thanks, see you in the Norris finals.
Ron | rec.sport.hockey |
rec.motorcycles |
|
Listen, *ASSHOLE*, I'm just commenting on what I heard
reported on the sports news!!
You'll notice my skeptical comment! Sheesh... I thought this group
wasfor conversation! Guess I was wrong. }-< | rec.sport.hockey |
So what should I carry if I want to comply with intelligent helmet laws?
(The above comment in no way implies support for any helmet law, nor should
such support be inferred. A promise is a promise.) | rec.motorcycles |
So what's your local hospital's favorite curse? | rec.motorcycles |
Later on, in your posting, you make reference to "putting words
into other people's mouths"...I would suggest that your last
paragraph can only be interpreted in one way...namely, that I,
along with Greg, claim that Gainey never made a technical
mistake. If you actually read what I've written, you will find
that I make no such claim...soooo, if logic serves me well,
you're contradicting yourself.
Roger, I'm not sure here, but I think "ignorance" is really a
function of "a lack of knowledge" and not "formulating an
opinion"...but hey, if you need to take a cheap shot, then by all
means go ahead...that's if it makes you feel better.
My word, such vehemence against poor ol' Bob Gainey. Why does
he bother you so much...he was an effective player for his style
of play.
I'm really sorry Roger, but you have lost me completely here.
Why don't you ask me if I would rather have Jesus Christ,
himself, in nets?
Now, if you were to compare, say for example, Bob Gainey with Guy
Carbonneau, you would have a balanced comparison.
I'm wrong AGAIN...hmmm, let's see...where was I wrong in the
first place? I'm only guessing here, Rog, but I have a feeling
that you've setup a "You're wrong again" macro key on your
machine.
I agree that my use of the word plugger is simplistic...but I
think you know what I'm getting at. I would also like to point
out that Gilmour's potential as a Selke-winner was never part of
the debate...are you asking me for an opinion? If so, I think
there are far too many other deserving players to include Gilmour
among the candidates.
I would suggest that your comment: "And when the press runs out
of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype
the pluggers. Grant Fuhr, Essa Tikkannen, Butch Goring, Bob
Nystrom, Bob Gainey, Doug Jarvis, Derek Sanderson, Wayne Cashman,
Bob Baun, Bob Pulford, Ralph Backstrom, Henri Richard, Dick
Duff...and so on..." demonstrates a blanket disregard for these
individuals as contributors to the game...so yes, settle
down...nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods.
C'mon...it has a nice ring to it...and admit it, you had a good
laugh.
congenially, as always,
jd
--
James David
[email protected] | rec.sport.hockey |
Boston 2 2 0--4
Ottawa 0 1 1--2
First period
1, Boston, Roberts 5 (Juneau) 7:19.
2, Boston, Wiemer 1(Juneau, Oates) 17:47.
Second period
3, Boston, Neely 11 (Juneau, Murphy) 6:10.
4, Boston, Hughes 5 (Richer, Kimble) 7:55.
5, Ottawa, Archibald 9 (Rumble, Lamb) 11:37.
Third period
6, Ottawa, Boschman 9 (Kudelski) 5:10.
Boston: 4 Power play: 2-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Hughes 1 0 1
Juneau 0 3 3
Kimble 0 1 1
Murphy 0 1 1
Neely 1 0 1
Oates 0 1 1
Richer 0 1 1
Roberts 1 0 1
Wiemer 1 0 1
Ottawa: 2 Power play: 4-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Archibald 1 0 1
Boschman 1 0 1
Kudelski 0 1 1
Lamb 0 1 1
Rumble 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Washington 0 0 2--2
NY Rangers 0 0 0--0
First period
No scoring.
Second period
No scoring.
Third period
1, Washington, Bondra 36 (Pivonka, Cavallini) 6:54.
2, Washington, Bondra 37 (Cote, Pivonka) 10:10.
Washington: 2 Power play: 2-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bondra 2 0 2
Cavallini 0 1 1
Cote 0 1 1
Pivonka 0 2 2
NY Rangers: 0 Power play: 1-0
No scoring
-----------------------------------------
NY Islanders 2 1 1 0--4
Hartford 2 1 1 1--5
First period
1, NY Islanders, Ferraro 13 (Malakhov, King) 1:29.
2, NY Islanders, Hogue 32 (Thomas, Turgeon) 1:57.
3, Hartford, Yake 21(Poulin) 4:15.
4, Hartford, Yake 22 (Nylander, Poulin) 16:44.
Second period
5, Hartford, Verbeek 39 (Cassels, Weinrich) pp, 2:43.
6, NY Islanders, Thomas 35 (King, Ferraro) 7:58.
Third period
7, Hartford, Burt 5 (Sanderson, Cassels) 13:41.
8, NY Islanders, Malakhov 14 (Hogue) 17:45.
Overtime
9, Hartford, Janssens 12 (Poulin) 1:08.
Hartford: 5 Power play: 3-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Burt 1 0 1
Cassels 0 2 2
Janssens 1 0 1
Nylander 0 1 1
Poulin 0 3 3
Sanderson 0 1 1
Verbeek 1 0 1
Weinrich 0 1 1
Yake 2 0 2
NY Islanders: 4 Power play: 3-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Ferraro 1 1 2
Hogue 1 1 2
King 0 2 2
Malakhov 1 1 2
Thomas 1 1 2
Turgeon 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Pittsburgh 2 3 1 0--6
New Jersey 2 4 0 0--6
First period
1, Pittsburgh, Daniels 5 (Needham, Tippett) 4:14.
2, New Jersey, Lemieux 29 (Semak, Driver) 10:19.
3, Pittsburgh, Stevens 55(Tocchet, Murphy) pp, 12:40.
4, New Jersey, Zelepukin 22 (Driver, Niedermayer) 17:26.
Second period
5, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 68 (Stevens, Tocchet) 1:42.
6, New Jersey, Semak 36 (Lemieux, Zelepukin) 2:27.
7, Pittsburgh, McEachern 28 (Jagr, Barrasso) 4:24.
8, New Jersey, Stevens 12 (Guerin, Pellerin) 5:45.
9, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 69 (unassisted) sh, 12:40.
10, New Jersey, Richer 37 (Nicholls) 15:53.
11, New Jersey, Lemieux 30 (Semak, Zelepukin) 17:40.
Third period
12, Pittsburgh, Mullen 33 (Jagr, Lemieux) 18:54.
Overtime
No scoring.
Pittsburgh: 6 Power play: 5-1 Special goals: pp: 1 sh: 1 Total: 2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Barrasso 0 1 1
Daniels 1 0 1
Jagr 0 2 2
Lemieux 2 1 3
McEachern 1 0 1
Mullen 1 0 1
Murphy 0 1 1
Needham 0 1 1
Stevens 1 1 2
Tippett 0 1 1
Tocchet 0 2 2
New Jersey: 6 Power play: 3-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Driver 0 2 2
Guerin 0 1 1
Lemieux 2 1 3
Nicholls 0 1 1
Niedermayer 0 1 1
Pellerin 0 1 1
Richer 1 0 1
Semak 1 2 3
Stevens 1 0 1
Zelepukin 1 2 3
| rec.sport.hockey |
I think this guy is going to be just a little bit disappointed. Lemieux
two, Tocchet, Mullen, Tippett, and Jagr. I buzzed my friend because I forgot
who had scored Mullen's goal. I said, "Who scored? Lemieux two, Tocchet,
Tippett, Jagr." The funny part was I said the "Jagr" part non-chalantly as
he was in the process of scoring while I was asking this question!!! :-)
All in all ABC's coverage wasn't bad. On a scale of 1-10, I give it about
an 8. How were the games in the Chi/St. Louis/LA area???
That's stupid!!! I'd complain to the television network! If I were to even
see a Pirates game on instead of a Penguins game at this time of the year, I
and many other Pittsburghers would surely raise hell!!!
Texas is off to a good start, they may pull it out this year. Whoops! That
belongs in rec.sport.baseball!!! | rec.sport.hockey |
& Can somebody tell me what all the letter spesifications on motorcycle models
& really mean.
& Example: What means the C, the B and the R in Honda CBR. - Or the V, S, G, L
& and P in Suzuki VS750GLP
Honda: a "V" designates a V engine street bike. "VF" for V-4, "VT" for V-twin.
"CB" is a street bike with an parallel twin or inline 4-cylinder engine.
"R" used to mean race bike, but is now also used to mean sport bike.
"CL" was for the old steet scramblers-street bikes with high pipes
"CM" was a "custom" street bike
"CR" is dirt only two strokes
"XL" is dual purpose bike
"XR" was dirt only four stroke, but now can be a dual purpose bike if it has
an "L" as a suffix.
"GL" is a touring bike
| rec.motorcycles |
Here is the price list for the week April 13 to April 19.
- Andrew
Buy Sell Pts Team Player
158.9 143.0 157 PIT Mario_Lemieux
148.5 133.7 145 BUF Pat_LaFontaine
142.7 128.4 141 BOS Adam_Oates
137.6 123.8 136 DET Steve_Yzerman
132.1 118.9 129 WPG Teemu_Selanne
131.7 118.5 127 NYI Pierre_Turgeon
130.1 117.1 127 TOR Doug_Gilmour
126.0 113.4 123 BUF Alexander_Mogilny
123.4 111.1 119 PHI Mark_Recchi
121.9 109.7 119 LA Luc_Robitaille
113.3 102.0 112 QUE Mats_Sundin
111.3 100.2 110 PIT Kevin_Stevens
110.6 99.5 108 VAN Pavel_Bure
108.6 97.7 106 STL Craig_Janney
108.3 97.5 107 PIT Rick_Tocchet
107.6 96.8 105 CHI Jeremy_Roenick
105.3 94.8 104 QUE Joe_Sakic
103.5 93.2 101 STL Brett_Hull
102.4 92.2 100 CGY Theoren_Fleury
101.2 91.1 100 PIT Ron_Francis
100.4 90.4 98 TOR Dave_Andreychuk
100.2 90.2 99 BOS Joe_Juneau
98.3 88.5 96 WPG Phil_Housley
98.3 88.5 96 MTL Vincent_Damphousse
96.3 86.7 94 MTL Kirk_Muller
96.1 86.5 95 DET Dino_Ciccarelli
95.3 85.8 93 BUF Dale_Hawerchuk
95.3 85.8 93 MIN Mike_Modano
94.4 85.0 91 NYR Mark_Messier
93.2 83.9 91 STL Brendan_Shanahan
93.1 83.8 92 PIT Jaromir_Jagr
88.1 79.3 86 MTL Brian_Bellows
88.1 79.3 86 LA Jari_Kurri
88.0 79.2 87 DET Sergei_Fedorov
87.1 78.4 85 CGY Robert_Reichel
87.0 78.3 86 DET Paul_Coffey
86.1 77.5 83 WSH Peter_Bondra
86.1 77.5 83 HFD Geoff_Sanderson
86.0 77.4 84 TB Brian_Bradley
85.0 76.5 82 NYI Steve_Thomas
84.0 75.6 83 PIT Larry_Murphy
84.0 75.6 81 PHI Rod_Brind'Amour
83.0 74.7 82 BOS Ray_Bourque
83.0 74.7 82 QUE Steve_Duchesne
83.0 74.7 80 HFD Andrew_Cassels
82.0 73.8 80 LA Tony_Granato
81.9 73.7 79 WSH Dale_Hunter
81.9 73.7 79 WSH Mike_Ridley
80.9 72.8 78 HFD Pat_Verbeek
80.9 72.8 79 MTL Stephan_Lebeau
80.9 72.8 79 CGY Gary_Suter
78.9 71.0 77 VAN Cliff_Ronning
78.9 71.0 77 NJ Claude_Lemieux
78.9 71.0 78 QUE Mike_Ricci
77.9 70.1 76 VAN Murray_Craven
77.9 70.1 76 STL Jeff_Brown
77.8 70.0 75 WSH Kevin_Hatcher
77.8 70.0 75 NYR Tony_Amonte
76.9 69.2 76 SJ Kelly_Kisio
76.8 69.1 75 NJ Alexander_Semak
76.8 69.1 75 MIN Russ_Courtnall
75.8 68.2 74 MIN Dave_Gagner
75.8 68.2 74 TOR Nikolai_Borschevsky
75.7 68.1 73 PHI Eric_Lindros
74.8 67.3 73 LA Jimmy_Carson
73.8 66.4 72 CGY Joe_Nieuwendyk
73.8 66.4 72 VAN Geoff_Courtnall
73.8 66.4 72 MIN Ulf_Dahlen
73.6 66.2 71 NYI Derek_King
73.6 66.2 71 WSH Michal_Pivonka
72.9 65.6 72 QUE Owen_Nolan
72.9 65.6 72 BOS Dmitri_Kvartalnov
72.7 65.4 71 STL Nelson_Emerson
72.7 65.4 71 CHI Chris_Chelios
72.6 65.3 70 NYI Benoit_Hogue
71.7 64.5 70 NJ Stephane_Richer
71.7 64.5 70 WPG Thomas_Steen
71.7 64.5 70 WPG Alexei_Zhamnov
71.7 64.5 70 CHI Steve_Larmer
69.8 62.8 69 PIT Joe_Mullen
69.5 62.6 67 NYR Mike_Gartner
68.6 61.7 67 VAN Petr_Nedved
68.6 61.7 67 VAN Trevor_Linden
68.6 61.7 67 LA Mike_Donnelly
68.4 61.6 66 WSH Dmitri_Khristich
68.4 61.6 66 WSH Al_Iafrate
66.8 60.1 66 DET Ray_Sheppard
66.8 60.1 66 QUE Andrei_Kovalenko
66.4 59.8 64 HFD Zarley_Zalapski
66.4 59.8 64 NYR Adam_Graves
65.8 59.2 65 SJ Johan_Garpenlov
64.5 58.1 63 TOR Glenn_Anderson
63.5 57.2 62 LA Wayne_Gretzky
63.5 57.2 62 OTT Norm_Maciver
62.2 56.0 60 PHI Garry_Galley
61.7 55.5 61 DET Steve_Chiasson
61.7 55.5 61 DET Paul_Ysebaert
61.5 55.4 60 NJ Valeri_Zelepukin
61.5 55.4 60 MTL Mike_Keane
61.2 55.1 59 PHI Brent_Fedyk
60.7 54.6 60 PIT Shawn_McEachern
60.4 54.4 59 LA Rob_Blake
60.1 54.1 58 NYI Pat_Flatley
59.7 53.7 59 QUE Scott_Young
59.4 53.5 58 WPG Darrin_Shannon
59.1 53.2 57 PHI Kevin_Dineen
58.4 52.6 57 NJ Bernie_Nicholls
58.4 52.6 57 CGY Sergei_Makarov
58.4 52.6 57 CHI Steve_Smith
58.1 52.3 56 WSH Pat_Elynuik
57.4 51.7 56 VAN Greg_Adams
57.4 51.7 56 NJ Scott_Stevens
57.4 51.7 56 TB John_Tucker
56.3 50.7 55 WPG Fredrik_Olausson
56.0 50.4 54 NYR Sergei_Nemchinov
55.0 49.5 53 NYR Darren_Turcotte
55.0 48.9 53 CGY Al_MacInnis
55.0 48.9 53 CHI Christian_Ruuttu
55.0 48.0 52 CHI Brent_Sutter
55.0 47.6 51 HFD Terry_Yake
55.0 47.0 51 VAN Dixon_Ward
55.0 47.0 51 WPG Keith_Tkachuk
55.0 46.4 51 BOS Stephen_Leach
55.0 46.1 50 TOR John_Cullen
55.0 46.1 50 MTL Denis_Savard
55.0 45.7 49 NYR Ed_Olczyk
55.0 45.2 49 VAN Anatoli_Semenov
55.0 44.8 48 WSH Sylvain_Cote
55.0 44.8 48 NYI Vladimir_Malakhov
55.0 44.8 48 NYI Jeff_Norton
55.0 44.8 48 HFD Patrick_Poulin
55.0 44.6 49 BOS Dave_Poulin
55.0 44.3 48 LA Tomas_Sandstrom
55.0 44.3 48 EDM Petr_Klima
55.0 44.3 48 NJ John_MacLean
55.0 44.3 48 EDM Doug_Weight
55.0 43.3 47 MTL Gilbert_Dionne
55.0 43.3 47 LA Alexei_Zhitnik
55.0 43.3 47 EDM Shayne_Corson
55.0 42.8 47 QUE Martin_Rucinsky
55.0 42.4 46 WPG Evgeny_Davydov
55.0 42.4 46 STL Kevin_Miller
55.0 42.4 46 EDM Craig_Simpson
55.0 42.0 45 WSH Kelly_Miller
55.0 42.0 45 PHI Pelle_Eklund
55.0 40.6 44 CHI Michel_Goulet
55.0 40.6 44 EDM Dave_Manson
55.0 39.6 43 OTT Sylvain_Turgeon
55.0 38.7 42 CGY Paul_Ranheim
55.0 38.7 42 MTL Mathieu_Schneider
55.0 38.7 42 MIN Mark_Tinordi
55.0 38.3 42 DET Bob_Probert
55.0 37.8 41 EDM Todd_Elik
55.0 37.4 40 NYR Esa_Tikkanen
55.0 37.4 41 BOS Vladimir_Ruzicka
55.0 36.9 40 OTT Bob_Kudelski
55.0 36.9 40 NJ Peter_Stastny
55.0 36.9 40 TOR Dave_Ellett
55.0 36.9 40 OTT Brad_Shaw
55.0 36.5 40 DET Niklas_Lidstrom
55.0 36.0 39 NJ Bobby_Holik
55.0 36.0 39 TOR Wendel_Clark
55.0 35.5 38 NYR Alexei_Kovalev
55.0 35.0 38 BUF Yuri_Khmylev
55.0 35.0 38 MIN Mike_McPhee
55.0 34.1 37 TOR Rob_Pearson
55.0 34.1 37 VAN Sergio_Momesso
55.0 33.6 36 NYR Brian_Leetch
55.0 33.2 36 CHI Dirk_Graham
55.0 33.2 36 TB Adam_Creighton
55.0 32.8 36 QUE Valery_Kamensky
55.0 32.3 35 EDM Zdeno_Ciger
55.0 32.3 35 LA Corey_Millen
55.0 31.9 35 BOS Ted_Donato
55.0 31.3 34 TOR Peter_Zezel
55.0 30.4 33 MIN Neal_Broten
55.0 29.5 32 MTL Gary_Leeman
55.0 29.5 32 EDM Scott_Mellanby
55.0 29.5 32 BUF Wayne_Presley
55.0 29.2 32 DET Keith_Primeau
55.0 28.9 31 NYI Brian_Mullen
55.0 28.9 31 PHI Josef_Beranek
55.0 28.6 31 CHI Stephane_Matteau
55.0 28.3 31 BOS Steve_Heinze
55.0 28.0 30 PHI Dmitri_Yushkevich
55.0 28.0 30 HFD Mikael_Nylander
55.0 27.6 30 BUF Richard_Smehlik
55.0 27.6 30 TOR Dmitri_Mironov
55.0 25.8 28 CHI Brian_Noonan
55.0 25.5 28 SJ Pat_Falloon
55.0 24.9 27 STL Igor_Korolev
55.0 24.3 26 WSH Bob_Carpenter
55.0 24.3 26 NYR James_Patrick
55.0 23.9 26 BUF Petr_Svoboda
55.0 23.0 25 OTT Mark_Lamb
55.0 22.4 24 NYI Scott_LaChance
55.0 22.1 24 MTL Benoit_Brunet
55.0 22.1 24 TB Mikael_Andersson
55.0 21.2 23 EDM Martin_Gelinas
55.0 21.2 23 WPG Sergei_Bautin
55.0 21.2 23 TOR Bill_Berg
55.0 21.2 23 EDM Kevin_Todd
55.0 19.6 21 NYI David_Volek
55.0 19.6 21 NYI Ray_Ferraro
55.0 19.4 21 MIN Brent_Gilchrist
55.0 18.6 20 HFD Yvon_Corriveau
55.0 18.6 20 NYR Phil_Bourque
55.0 18.6 20 NYI Darius_Kasparaitis
55.0 18.2 20 DET Jim_Hiller
55.0 17.7 19 PHI Andrei_Lomakin
55.0 17.6 19 BUF Donald_Audette
55.0 16.6 18 TB Roman_Hamrlik
55.0 15.5 17 BOS Cam_Neely
55.0 15.5 17 SJ Mark_Pederson
55.0 14.6 16 PIT Martin_Straka
55.0 13.9 15 CHI Joe_Murphy
55.0 12.2 13 NYR Peter_Andersson
55.0 12.0 13 OTT Tomas_Jelinek
55.0 12.0 13 NJ Janne_Ojanen
55.0 10.2 11 TB Steve_Kasper
55.0 10.2 11 MIN Bobby_Smith
55.0 9.1 10 SJ Ray_Whitney
55.0 8.4 9 HFD Robert_Petrovicky
55.0 8.3 9 BUF Viktor_Gordijuk
55.0 7.4 8 TOR Joe_Sacco
55.0 7.3 8 QUE Mikhail_Tatarinov
55.0 7.3 8 SJ Peter_Ahola
55.0 6.5 7 CHI Rob_Brown
55.0 6.4 7 BOS Glen_Murray
55.0 5.6 6 HFD Tim_Kerr
55.0 5.5 6 MIN Brian_Propp
55.0 4.7 5 WSH Reggie_Savage
55.0 4.6 5 STL Vitali_Prokhorov
55.0 4.6 5 LA Robert_Lang
55.0 4.6 5 EDM Shaun_Van_Allen
55.0 3.7 4 MIN Dan_Quinn
55.0 3.6 4 DET Viacheslav_Kozlov
55.0 3.6 4 BOS Jozef_Stumpel
55.0 3.6 4 PIT Bryan_Fogarty
55.0 2.8 3 MTL Olav_Petrov
55.0 2.8 3 TB Stan_Drulia
55.0 1.9 2 WSH Jason_Woolley
55.0 1.8 2 NJ Claude_Vilgrain
55.0 0.0 0 MTL Patrick_Kjellberg
55.0 0.0 0 OTT Alexei_Yashin
55.0 0.0 0 WSH Randy_Burridge
55.0 0.0 0 EDM Dean_McAmmond
55.0 0.0 0 CGY Cory_Stillman
55.0 0.0 0 TB Brent_Gretzky
55.0 0.0 0 BUF Jason_Dawe
55.0 0.0 0 WSH Brian_Sakic
55.0 0.0 0 VAN Igor_Larionov
55.0 0.0 0 CHI Sergei_Krivokrasov
55.0 0.0 0 QUE Peter_Forsberg
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But, those chips are probably inside a custom chip, (to make it smaller and
use less power) and the preset/data pins are not going to be available.
It would probably not be TTL but might be CMOS
(wider operating voltage range), not that the tecnology would make
much difference.
Plus the custom chip would probably be potted (encapsulated with epoxy).
Good luck.
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"Any shark that gets to be 11 or 12 feet long with
300 big teeth can be considered dangerous" - 'Shark Bowl '92' | rec.autos |
Hmmmmmm. I think I'll let everyone make there own comment on this one.
Neilson and Smith are bad. Kovalev is magical.
| rec.sport.hockey |
Actually, this started as a great idea. Before steering-column
locks became popular, Saab installed a *gearshift* lock -- put the car
in reverse, remove the key, and the car *stays* in reverse!
Also, suppose you get into your car, and a thug comes up and
demands your keys at gunpoint. You hand them over, he gets in, and
HAS NO IDEA WHERE TO PUT THE KEY! At this, he will run away (or perhaps
shoot you anyway %-}). I heard this actually happened somewhere...
Btw, I hear that the Saab 900's new successor will have the
ignition on the console, between the seats, where it belongs. | rec.autos |
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have lost what little respect I have
for Jim LeFebvre after seeing today's Cubs game. First of all how could he
start Maldonado over May. After the way May played at the end of last year and
the way he tore up the Cactus League how could you let him sit the bench? Not
to mention that a right hander (Maddux) started. I really blew my top when
Lefebvre pinch hit for Rick Wilkins with TOMMY SHIELDS! How can you do that
just because of the lefty-righty thing, too much is made of that. Wilkins is
twice the hitter that Shields is. Then the next batter was Jose Vizcaino, one
of the weakest hitters I have ever seen, and who had looked terrible at bat all
day, and Lefebre let him hit, while May still sat the bench. I think even Arnie
Harris was stunned by this because he showed May sitting in the dugout while
Vizcaino was batting. Face it Lefebvre has got to be the worst manager in
baseball.
A dishard Cub fan
| rec.sport.baseball |
uhhhh there are only three l's. | rec.sport.baseball |
My vote goes to John Vanbiesbrouck. His mask has a skyline of New York
City, and on the sides there are a bunch of bees (Beezer). It looks
really sharp.
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Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
[email protected] IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!! | rec.sport.hockey |
There's only one car that really fits your needs. It's spelled: | rec.autos |
So, how did you guys *learn* this? Is it something you were
born with, or did you make horrible grinding noises the first few
times? (how many times?)
I would think you'd have to have a certain amount of "feel"
for it to begin with. Some people would never get it, and others
(like me) would never have the guts to try it, unless maybe you
were planning to buy a new transmission anyway...
(BTW, I've heard that quite a few truckers and race car
drivers shift this way). | rec.autos |
I agree that a fully-loaded SL2 would come close in price to a
LOWER-END Ford Taurus. A FULLY-LOADED Taurus, on the other hand, would still
be substantially more expensive than even the most glitzy SL2. A fully loaded
SL2 would run somewhere around $17,000, while a fully loaded Taurus LX would be
somewhere around the $22,000-$23,000 range. A base Taurus (GL I believe) might
start around $15,000. Of course there is the Taurus SHO which can push $30,000
if you really try, but this is a totally different car than your mainstream
Taurus sedan. Your statement was not entirely faulty, just a little
inaccurate.
Well, that's ok. At least you're not bitching about dealer profits like some
of the other netters are. You seem to have rationally picked out the car that
is best for you. The Loyale is an aging design that is about to be replaced by
the Impreza wagon, so you probably got a good deal on one of the last ones.
| rec.autos |
Of course a run scored is just as important as a run prevented.
Just as a penny saved is a penny earned. Enough with the cliches.
My point is that IF the Braves starters are able to live up to
their potential, they won't need much offensive support.
I realize this is a BIG IF. This staff leaves the '92 BoSox in the dust.
There is no legitimate comparison. Two Cy Young winners, and three other
pitchers that most any team in the league would kill to have as their first
or second starter. It seems to me that when quality pitchers take the
mound, the other teams score less runs. The team that scores the most
runs wins. This puts the team with the better pitching at the advantage
(providing they can stop the opposing team from scoring runs). A low
scoring game would clearly benefit the Braves. They should have many
low scoring games due to their excellent pitching and below average hitting.
On the flip side, if you had a starting lineup of great offensive players,
I would be arguing that this team would not need great pitchers.
They would have an advantage because they could simply outscore their
opponent. The name of the games is to win. Even Ray Knight knows that
you do this by putting more runs up on the scoreboard.
All I'm trying to say is that if you assemble the quality pitchers
like the Braves have, the offense doesn't need to be as strong.
| rec.sport.baseball |
CONGRAULATIONS !!!! Your helmet just passed the Snell Test.
Oh well, as least it looks ok now. Still, it may not save your head as well
as before you dropped it.
Mike | rec.motorcycles |
Could someone please post the rosters for the College Hockey All-Star game East
and West Rosters? Thanks in advance.
| rec.sport.hockey |
To those who are wondering what is happening in Minnesota:
From what I have seen in the local news (TV and newspaper), various people
in the area are trying to get a new hockey team. A columnist for the St.
Paul "Pioneer Press" wrote an article giving the "inside scoop" on the
issue. There are three local sites competing for a team and three possible
candiates to move to the Twin Cities. First the sites: Target Center, Civic
Center (St. Paul), and yes, even the Met Center. The columnist was pretty
confident that Minnesota will get a team, and that the Target Center will
ultimately win out. He argued, however, that the competition from the other
two sites will delay the process considerably. Without the
inter-site competition, the columnist (sorry, I can't remember his name)
believes that Minnesota would have a team by the 1994-95 season. Also,
because of the situation with the Timberwolves, things will be delayed
until (unless) the city of Minneapolis takes over the Target Center.
However, they are unlikely to do so until the Met Center is destroyed,
because the city will lose money if there is competition from the Met for
conventions and short-term events (even with hockey at Target). To add to
this mess, a STUDY (6 to 12 months) is going to be conducted on the future
viability of the Met Center, which obviously delays the process even
further. I hope that the study is cancelled, which will have the effect of
knocking the Met Center out of the running and perhaps encouraging
Minneapolis to take over the Target Center sooner. The city would be
be even more encourged if the wrecking ball is taken to the Met,
which may happen.
Regarding possible candidates, the three teams are
Hartford, Tampa Bay, and New Jersey. I would prefer the Devils (Minnesota "
Ice Demons?") although the Lightning may have potential. Although it hasn't
been announced yet, it looks like 6 neutral site games will be played at the
Target Center next year. Apparently the Devils are interested in playing in
as many of those six games as possible, and I wouldn't be surprised to see
Hartford and Tampa show up there either. So, Minnesota may end up
getting another team, but it may take a few years.
Go Sabres! | rec.sport.hockey |
I guess that makes Altima the most generic car in the US.
| rec.autos |
Ok, but have you seen Tabaracci play yet? In his two starts and
his relief effort for Beaupre, he has looked mighty sharp - don't
forget the shutout. I think he's let in just four goals over eight
periods of play. I like Hrivnak, but we might actually have to give
some credit to David Poile for a change after this trade.
Hopefully if Tabaracci starts against the Isles tonight, I haven't
jinxed him. | rec.sport.hockey |
That is absolutely correct. They have a streak of meanness that runs much
deeper and stronger than anything I ever experienced even during the height
of the 60's racial struggles. I am absolutely convinced that there are
kids out there today that have no concept of right and wrong, but have the
human intelligence which is turning them into the greatest predators that
have ever walked the earth. They will prevail unless the rest of humanity
decides that it is in their best interest to stand up against these feral
humans, and for individuals to start taking some responsibility for their
own protection. In a state in which the individuals turn to the authorities
and police for protection, the police and government is soon composed of
the very feral humans that they originally sought protection from.
Gee, I guess you touched my hot button. I'd better go cool off somewhere.
| rec.autos |
Hello,
I am looking to slightly increase the performance of my 89 Honda
Civic Si. I was wondering if anyone could suggest upgrades that were not
too drastic. I thought that one of the easiest upgrades would be a new
header. Does anyone know what kind of increase that the header would give
me? I think I would check with Jackson Racing for the part. Are there
any other comparines would make Honda parts.
Are there any other small changes that can be easily made and won't
screw up the car. Things like new injectors?, new fuel injection chip etc?
I would welcome any suggestions of small changes that would make a
difference.
I don't really want to change the cam etc because I have heard that it
would be much harder on the engine.
E-Mail relpies prefered please and I will post a summary of all the replies.
Thanks for any help you may have to offer!
| rec.autos |
It's Stankiewicz, not Stankowitz, and he's not Jewish - he's Polish
(by the way, the correct pronunciation - according to Stanky himself,
is "ston-KEV-itch". all the sportscasters get it wrong)
The only other Jewish ballplayer I can think of is Ron Blomberg, who is
best known as being the first DH to appear in a major league ballgame. | rec.sport.baseball |
Dear Ulf,
Would you possibly consider helpiMontreal Canadiens fans everywhere
by throwing a knee-check in the direction of Denis Savard during your upcoming
game against Montreal? We just can't seem to win WITH him!
Thanx alot,
Pete H.
:-)
| rec.sport.hockey |
First of all, the Penguins WILL win the cup again. Who is going to stop them?
Definitely not the Canucks!
My predictions:
Patrick Division winner: Pittsburgh
Adams Division winner: Quebec or Montreal
Norris Division winner: Detroit
Smythe Division winner: Winnipeg
Wales conference champ: Pittsburgh
Campbell Conference champ: Detroit
Stanley Cup Champions(again): Pittsburgh
Canucks suck. They'll lose in the first round, compliments of Winnipeg
and Teemu Selanne. | rec.sport.hockey |
It depends on the bike. Once you've found a bike you're interested in, call
some insurance companies for rates. Some bikes are much cheaper to insure than
you might think (my EX-500 only costs me $127/year in St. Louis; I'm 27)
For a first bike, I recommend 500cc's or less. And a bike short enough to get
both feet on the ground when you stop.
The one piece of advice EVERYONE will give you is to take a Motorcycle Safety
Foundation Rider's Course. See a dealer for details. In some states, completion
of such a course can give you a break on insurance. It will also teach you
to ride properly from the beginning, so you won't learn any bad habits.
Good luck. Riding a motorcycle is the most fun you can have, naked or otherwise. | rec.motorcycles |
Having spoken to technical staff from Ford many times, I can assure you that
internally at Ford this car is always called the Taurus "Show" or just
"the Show". As in long "o" sound. I still refer to it as the "S-H-O",
however, because it sounds better to me. I assume many purist fans and owners
prefer using the Ford lingo. | rec.autos |
Apparently that last post was a little hasy, since I
called around to more places and got quotes for less
than 600 and 425. Liability only, of course.
Plus, one palced will give me C7C for my car + liab on the bike for
only 1350 total, which ain't bad at all.
So I won't go with the first place I called, that's
fer sure.
| rec.motorcycles |
Squids are everybody but me and you. Chris Behanna is especially a squid.
| rec.motorcycles |
I beleive it's called the "Dentabox" frame.
Nothing some putty and paint won't fix.
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Jorg Klinger | GSXR1100 | If you only new who
Arch. & Eng. Services |"Lost Horizons" CR500 | I think I am.
UManitoba, Man. Ca. |"The Embalmer" IT175 | - anonymous | rec.motorcycles |
Heard minutes ago on KOA radio, Denver.
Nolan Ryan to have arthroscopic on a knee, and
to miss 2 - 5 weeks.
Rockies (Nied) lead Mets (Gooden) 4 - 0 in 7th.
All runs in first inning. | rec.sport.baseball |
rec.autos |
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So does clear lipstick/chapstick/etc. fit under the "natural look" or
the "waxy shit" category? I wear something on my lips to keep them from
drying out. Kissing dry, cracked, parched lips isn't too fun either.
Not if Tom has anything to say about it you won't! Noemi speaks for
herself.
Beth | rec.motorcycles |
The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes
out of nowhere to contend. The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples,
not the Cubs. I root for the Cubs, because I feel sorry for them, but
basically they are dogs. The Pirates today are a great example of an underdog.
If the Rockies and Marlins compete, they will be underdogs. The North Stars
trip to the Stanley Cup finals was a good example of an underdog's journey.
The Cubs have a good team this year, and play in a weak division, they are much
less than America's Team.
| rec.sport.baseball |
I think there is a legal clause in the RR name, regardless of who owns it
it must be a British company/owner - i.e. BA can sell the company but not
the name. | rec.motorcycles |
Does anyone have the scoop on Scot Erickson? How long is he going to be
out for?
| rec.sport.baseball |
Everyone... Read this. If you have already sent your predictions, please
correct the Patrick division if you would like. You have until midnight
on monday (my time.)
You may need to correct these games...
3 - Pittsburgh vs. New Jersey
4 - New York Islanders vs. Washington
10 - Patrick Division Winner
13 - Wales Conference Winner
15 - Stanley Cup Winner
Please forward all corrections to
Richard Madison
[email protected]
| rec.sport.hockey |
}Crazy question: "Anyone ever wonder how birds can drop a load on a car
}going over 65 MPH" ?
}
}I took a non-stop trip, got shitted on FOUR times (every time hitting the
}windshield, not even the open sunroof! Guess we have conscientious birds ;)
}Was going 75 MPH.
}
}
I used to have a '67 Galaxie convertible, was sitting at a light waiting
for it to turn green. It turned green, but I hesitated a little (sleeping I
guess) and a bird bombed me, it landed directly in front of me at eye
level, I guess the bird miscalculated and thought I was going to take off
right away.
And I'm still trying to figure out the one I got under my rear bumper as
well ?!?!?! Was the bird flying up and doing fancy acrobatics at my car and
decided to drop one while executing a perfect loop??
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A T A R I | | | rec.autos |
Well, it really isn't this cut and dry, but as a Jay fan the thing I feared
worst has happened. The Yanks sent down Williams G and are going to start
Williams B in CF.
I also believe they kept Wickman and Millitello in their rotation, which is
much nicer than that Kaminiecki and Mike Witt combo I thought they'd throw
out their to the slaughterhouse because of their "experience". Granted, Witt
"might" be good, but I think that they used rationale to keep the youngsters
up and not given the job to Witt because he was a good pitcher and has
experience.
The Yanks are showing that they are taking positive strides forwards; the
Jays with the loss of Dave Stewart are looking at gigantic holes in their
pitching staff.
The Orioles should also be there in the end..... | rec.sport.baseball |
Yes, I know this is not Rec.music, (as someone has already pointed out, thanks I know that), I'm trying to get a random sample and also I'm desperate for respones.
So please, don't mail me complaining that it doesn't belong here or that it is wasting bandwidth.
This affects EVERYBODY not just readers of music groups. Please either complete the survey, or hit 'n', because I'll just bounce back complaints.
Thank you
-Matt
| rec.sport.baseball |
And some comments, with some players deleted.
Yep, that Kevin Mitchell. I never would have expected him in the
#1 spot.
It's no accident that the first two names are 1988 only. As with first
and second base, 1988 was the year of the glove. Average DA was 20 points
higher in both leagues than any other year.
Looks good. Too bad he's moving to short.
Highest five-year regular, though he's only had one year as good as Kevin
Mitchell :->.
The other elite fielders in the league.
This is an interesting line. His 1988 figure was slightly below average.
His 1990 was pathetic, and his 1991 was the next best year by anybody. Part of
that may be his mobility. 1988 was with the Yankees. 1990 was with the
Padres, who appear to have a rotten infield. 1991 was with the Twins, and
judging by Leius and Gaetti, the Metrodome may be a good place to play
third.
Add another to the elite fielders list.
Too fielders whose career average may overstate their value. I don't know
what happened to Caminiti -- judging by the three previous years, his low
1992 may be a fluke. Sabo is merely average, however. His incredible 1988
(best year ever) brings his average up a lot.
Strange last two years.
According to reputation, one of the best fielders ever at third base.
But at the end, he was below average. (Average in 1988 was .643).
Boggs has been pretty good. I don't know what happened in 1990, but every
other year he has been above average, usually by quite a bit.
Last year -- a fluke or a portent?
Why is it that the two leagues usually have defensive averages very close
to one another, but very different from year to year? Any ideas?
Brook is declining.
Three first-time regulars, above average in 1992. I'm not sure why Jefferies
gets all the grief about his fielding. He's never had a good year, but while
at second he improved to become an average fielder, and is an average fielder
at third.
Zeile, on the other hand, is a below average fielder. Each year he's about
10 points below average. And it's probably not just the park, since Terry
Pendleton had excellent DAs in the three years before this.
Moving back to second was a good idea.
So why is Hayes supposed to be good defensively? He's had a grand total
of one year above the league DA, and was pretty bad last year.
Howard Johnson and Carney Lansford -- separated at birth. To his credit,
HoJo did have one above average year (1990). Lansford couldn't even break
the .600 mark without the help of the year of the glove.
Good hitter, but his fielding needs work.
Not a good fielder.
Both are better off at shortstop.
Two consecutive horrible years for Leo. Camden Yards doesn't seem to
have helped his fielding any.
Texas slugger debuts with not only the lowest career DA, but the lowest
DA at third ever. Congratulations, Dean.
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Dale J. Stephenson |*| ([email protected]) |*| Grad Student At Large | rec.sport.baseball |
I *loved* Dan Kelly! He was on USA when I first got hooked on Hockey back
in 1980 or so. No, he wasn't always spot on top of the play, and he
wasn't overly cute, but those pipes! That lusty, barrel chested, voice!
No pipsqueak was he (unlike some fellas we know!)
I rode into hockey mania on the coattails of Gretzky and the Boys on the
Bus. My first Finals saw the Islanders sweep them. But I'll never
forget the night, a year later, when the Oilers closed it out at home in
the pandemonium, the smoke from a million sparklers, the long empty-net
goal near the end, and Dan Kelly letting the crowd's reaction tell the
story for a few long seconds, then that voice barking through the din
"Dave Lumley ... sews it up for Edmonton!" It sounds stupid, but that
early (for me) hockey memory will always bring a thrill. Since then
I've grown a lot more jaded about the game, but I was really saddened
by Dan Kelly's passing. He was one of the good guys. | rec.sport.hockey |
Unfortunately, you seem to lack the ability to rate players. Dave
Winfield has had a better career than half the people in the Hall of
Fame. Eddie Murray and Darrel Evans are both one of the top 100 players
of all time. Lee Smith has had probably the greatest long career
of any relief pitcher since 1960, with the possible exception of Gossage.
On the other hand, Kingman probably isn't one of the best 750 players
of all time.
And Reardon, though a good pitcher, isn't in Smith's class career wise.
We're talking 2 of the top 50 players of all time here. There probably
aren't 5 shortstops in history who were better than these two.
Garvey sucked. Morris, while a very good pitcher, simply doesn't
belong near Cooperstown.
Gee, can these guys even compare to
If Puckett and Ryan (okay, no if there) get into to the Hall, they will be
marginal Hall of Famers (unless Puckett keeps hitting like he did last year for
a while longer)
To put this in perspective, here's a listing of the linear weights
values of the careers of the players you mention. In parenthesis
is how high they are up on the greatest ever list if they make it.
While no one would claim these are perfect rankings, they should give
you a good value of these guys' careers as compared to average players.
Robin Yount 43.0 (41)
Ozzie Smith 42.1 (45)
Dave Winfield 40.3 (53)
Eddie Murray 37.5 (68)
Darrel Evans 35.2 (80)
Kirby Puckett 24.3 (180)
Nolan Ryan 21.6 (219)
Jack Morris 11.8 (478)
Dave Kingman 0.4
Steve Garvey -5.8
To give you an idea of how these numbers compare to those in the Hall:
Of the 71 eligible players whose career stats equaled 35.0, 64 are in the Hall
of Fame. The ones who aren't include 4 19th century players, Ron Santo, Bobby
Grich, and Bob Johnson.
Of those eligible who score between 30.0 and 34.9, 15 of 25 are in. Of
those eligible who score between 25.0 and 29.9, 24 of 44 are in.
| rec.sport.baseball |
Since I was the one responsible for these divergent threads of
approx. 40+ posts (going back to: The Braves could be better off
if an injury happens), I may as well inject a little more
fuel to the flame!
1) Back at the beginning of Spring Training, I though
Lopez would make the squad easily. Olson was still
recovering from his late-season injury (knee, I believe),
and there were questions as to whether he would be
able to play before June. And then Berryhill was dinged up.
I was looking forward to this, because I believe that Lopez
can hit AND field the position. Before last season, he was
the Braves "Defensive Catcher" prospect, while Brian Deak was
the Braves "Offensive Catcher" prospect. Besides, Olson
and Berryhill couldn't hit their way out of a wet cardboard
box, and don't walk enough to be useful.
But Olson recovered quickly, Berryhill recovered, and the Braves went
with the two vets. I still say that if one of those two had been down
at the start of the season, he wouldn't have gotten his job back.
2) There is a certain logic to keeping Olson and Berryhill around.
After all, ML catchers are in short supply and suffer from wear and
tear. There are teams out there without ONE average ML catcher
(California and Seattle come to mind). Certainly, trying to
move Olson or Berryhill through waivers would be unlikely to work.
Plus, you'd have to eat that salary, which isn't huge, but isn't
tiddleywinks either (I think Olson's at about $800,000, Berryhill
at $450,000, but that's only what I recall).
3) Yes, I think arbitration-eligibility may have a role to
play in this also. What is it, that 5/6 of the 2+year players
aren't eligible for arbitration? Only the 1/6 that were on the roster
the longest are eligible? Of course, the system may change,
but the extent of that change is not yet known. From a business
standpoint, it may make sense to keep Lopez down until June/the
first time Olson/Berryhill go on the DL.
4) I am still disappointed that Lopez isn't on the team.
I still prefer to think of myself as a fan when it comes to the Braves,
and the truth is that I'd rather see our best team on the field,
which, IMO, includes Lopez.
Of course,today we play the Cubs. Hopefully, we won't need him. ;)
As for the Schuerholz/Cox conversation, I imagine it went
like this: (Remember, they've BOTH been GM's)
(the following is not meant to be read by the humor-impaired)
Cox: OK, we've sent Jones down. His fielding could be a
little smoother. Besides, Blauser can hit OK and his fielding
is better than it used to be.
Schuerholz: Well, we'll have to send Nieves down too. Deion
just won't sign that baseball only contract. We can't count
on him in October, so we have to keep Nixon around for the
defense. Besides, Gorman's not ready to give up on
Billy Hatcher yet. Once Hatcher's gone AND Deion signs,
we can move Nixon for Frankie Rodriguez. That ought to
give us some pitching depth in 1995.
Cox: Yep, that'll be nice. Too bad Deion won't sign.
OK, I'll look for Nieves when Justice starts having
Berry-Berry...er, back problems again. Now, what about
Klesko?
Schuerholz: Well, we've still got to fork out another 1.5 mil
for Bream. If we keep Klesko, we either lose the money
or Cabrera. I keep dangling Sid in front of Dal Maxwell,
but somehow he doesn't seem to be the same GM. First
Jeffries for Jose, and now Whiten for Clark! If he
gets rid of Brian Jordan, then I'd HAVE to believe that he
and Whitey Herzog switched bodies at the Winter Meetings!
Cox: OK, keep trying on Bream, and I'll wait til the trading
deadline for my Hunter/Klesko platoon. Maybe I can get a few
extra at-bats for Cabrera while we wait. Try California...
if Snow starts slowly, maybe WhiteyDal will bite on Sid.
And if that doesn't work, then perhaps Sid's knees
could be "persuaded" to act up. There's always the
15-day DL! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Schuerholz: What about Caraballo?
Cox: Well, he's not that much better than Lemke. Maybe if he starts
in Richmond, he'll start walking more. Besides, if he's going to be
arbitration-eligible, better to stretch him out so that we actually
get some value from him before he makes the big bucks.
Schuerholz: Now, let's see. That leaves Lopez.
Cox: NOOOOO! I gotta keep Lopez! Sure, I didn't think Olson
would recover this quickly. Maybe I can talk Caminiti into
running into him again?
Schuerholz: Nope, Lopez has gotta go. You know that he'll get
$3 million in arbitration. May as well put it off that one
extra year. Besides, until Olson's shown his stuff a little
bit, I can't trade him. Besides, Berryhill's a left-handed
hitter. You know how rare that is?
Cox: Don't you mean a left-handed whiffer? Pretty common,
if you ask me. I mean, he made Pat Borders look good in
the World Series. PAT BORDERS!!!
Schuerholz: Hey, you're the one who wouldn't write Lopez
into the lineup.
Cox: Well, you're the one who went out and got me Jeff
Reardon! Besides, I thought Lopez wouldn't be used
to our pitching staff's stuff. He got some time with
them this spring...looked pretty good. Come on, surely
we only need to keep one stiff behind the plate?
Schuerholz: Yeah, but which stiff? Whichever one we keep
will be hurt by May.
Cox: OK, OK, you made your point. Keep them both. Surely
one of them will be on the DL by June at the latest. Then I
can call up Lopez, and then we can win 110 games! The Pennant!
THE WORLD SERIES! I'll be up there with John McGraw! Casey
Stengel! Earl Weaver! Oh, they laughed at me in Toronto,
but have you ever had to deal with George Bell? I'll finally
get my just reward! Mwa-ha-ha-ha!
Schuerholz: Easy, Bobby. Have you been taking those
"happy pills" left around by Chuck Tanner? Why'd you
ever hire that guy anyhow?
Cox: Don't ask me; ask Ted.
-------------------------------------------------------
Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu
"I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort"
Grafitti, Paris, 1968
TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.) | rec.sport.baseball |
from Anna Matyas:
Yeah, and also be second in the team in scoring and play about 35
minutes a game and play on the power play and kill penalties and be the
best defenseman in the league. I'd take a whole team of Chelioses if I
could. (That way, when one got a penalty the others could kill it!) | rec.sport.hockey |
As the subject suggests the Flames were not impressive this afternoon,
dropping a 6-3 decision to the LA Kings. Most of the Flames neglected
to show up, especially in their own zone, as the Kings hit at least
five posts! The Flames best line was probably
Skrudland-Paslawski-Berube (which tells how bad the Flames were). Gary
Suter scored a great goal (in fact all three Flame goals were scored
by D-men - Yawney and Dahlquist getting the others), but also made
some bonehead plays. For the Kings, Pat Conacher was especially
impressive.
The games was VERY chippy, as Dan Mirouelli lost control early and
never recovered it; there were high-sticks, cross-checks, punches,
hits from behind. Fleury got a game misconduct for rubbing out Warren
Rychel from behind. Flames dominated the game physically, but failed
to take advantage due to horrendous defensive lapses (I don't think
Vernon can be blamed for any of the goals). Calgary went with 7 D-men,
as Roger Johansson played LW; he looked lost IMHO - I hope King
inserts Chris Lindbergh, Paul Kruse, or Sergei Makarov for Wednesday's
game. Gretzky left the game in the 2nd period with a charley-horse; no
idea how serious - he didn't return.
I still think the Flames should win this series, but they better
buckle down. | rec.sport.hockey |
This will be my last post ( promotion ) of the hockey pool.. I will
update the pool ( or try to ) every wednesday
Subject: Please join my hockey playoff pool.
Deadline for pool: Midnight Saturday
Rules: Read on
Cost: NONE
PRIZES: NONE
Send replies to : [email protected]
Note: if your entries is send by midnight saturday it will be accepted
please include your name
Rules to the ACME hockey playoff pool
Critierias
Pick 9 forwards ( as long as they are forwards LW=RW=C is okay)
Pick 6 defensemen
( arrange them in a lines, 3 forwards and two defense = 1 line
( and arranged them in line order , which of your players would
( play in the first line and which plays in the second line
Pick 1 designated playmaker
( can be any positions...try a defensemen )
Pick 1 designated scorer ( can be any positions )
Pick 1 goal-tender
Pick a team ( the one you think may win the cup )
*note: players can only be chosen once !
ie Cannot have Sakic as forward and again as designated passer
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Calculation of points:
( except for designated scorer and playmaker)
1 assist = 1 pt IXI 1 goal = 1 pt II
( for players in line 1, their pt totals will be *2 )
line 1 = pts * 2
line 2 = pts * 1.5
line 3 = pts * 1
1 win = 2 pt ( for goalies)
The team that wins the Cup = 10 pts
For the designated playmaker Designated
Calculation will be as follows Scorer:Goal = 3 pts
Every goal scored = 0.5 points Assists = 0.5 pts
Every assists = 2 points
In the event of a tie, the tie will be broken by unmodified
Goal totals and then by game winning goals
----SAMPLE-------------------------------------
eg designated scorer = Jeremy Roenick
Actual: G=12, A=10, Pts=22 Modified G=(12*3) + A=(10*0.5) = 41
.
designated playmaker = Steve Smith
Actual: G=1, A=11, Pts=12 Modified G=(1*0.5) + A=(11*2) = 22.5
.
line 1 = J Murphy(24)- G Courtnall(14)- M Messier(14)
Dave Manson(12)- Iafrate(7)
Total points = 142 points for that line!
| rec.sport.hockey |
He's been playing horrible defense. Baylor said after Wednesday's game that
he wanted to shake up the lineup a little, because Bichette has been
having a rough time defensively and Jerald Clark has not been hitting.
He was true to his word; I went to Thursday's game and Gerald Young
was in right and Daryl Boston (who has a very hot bat) was in left.
Baylor was careful to say though that he didn't necessarily mean for
these changes to be permanent but he wanted to give these other two
a shot while Clark and Bichette were not playing well.
In defense of Bichette, it looks like right field in Mile High Stadium
is a bitch to play. Some of the visiting outfielders have been having
some problems too (although Bobby Bonilla made a great catch crashing into
the wall to rob Daryl Boston of an extra base hit in Thursday's game) | rec.sport.baseball |
Now, I am jumping into the middle of this thread so I may not know
what y'all been talking about, but I have a few comments:
There are a number of other factors that are very important, the three
biggest being air velocity, air momentum and shock waves.
Velocity stacks have been used for years and are now being used inside
of stock airboxes on a number of bikes. At a tuned engine rpm, the
stacks can greatly increase the speed, and thus momentum of the air
rushing in.
Air momentum is critical in getting good air intake: the momentum of
the air stack outside the combustion chamber will force its way inside
long after the piston has begun its compressive up-stroke.
Shock waves are used to induce air intake and to prevent fresh air from
escaping out the exzhaust ports. Shock waves are the product of expansion
chambers or any other means of presenting a 'wall' (opening or closing)
to the air in motion. Beyond this I am lost in the mystery of how they
design for shock waves. | rec.motorcycles |
I bought my Moto Guzzi from a Univ of Va grad student in Charlottesville
last spring.
Mark Cervi, [email protected], (w) 410-267-2147
DoD #0603 MGNOC #12998 '87 Moto Guzzi SP-II
"What kinda bikes that?" A Moto Guzzi. "What's that?" Its Italian.
-- | rec.motorcycles |
This is incorrect. This year the Pens had 61 games on "free" TV and 6
games on PPV. Next year they will have 62 games on free TV and 22 on
a subscription basis.
You actually get 1 more free game than last year, and there will be no
more "radio-only" games.
Its a good deal. Last year, everybody bitched about Baldwin "breaking
up the team". Now, he goes out of his way to keep the nucleus of this
team together and that takes money. He comes up with a creative way
to generate more revenue so he can afford this team, and people bitch
some more.
Everybody wants something for nothing.
Dean
-- | rec.sport.hockey |
Here is my traditional experience with tickets, playoffs and otherwise,
at the Civic Arena.
Scalping is illegal but nonetheless present outside the Arena. Best
strategy, given that you don't mind missing the Anthem (which is OK if B.E.
Taylor decides to come back ever again :) ) is to wait until 7:40 or 7:45,
when the game is rolling; the scalpers are at this point desperate to sell
and will reduce to near or at face value to get rid of their tickets.
Playoffs are a little different in that good seats will go early on;
what's left at 7:45 may be nosebleed material (D, E sections).
Others can add on their opinions as well. | rec.sport.hockey |
Would the person who is running the e-mail list for KANSAS CITY Royals please
e-mail details regarding mailing list. If you on the list and know the info
please send me info as well.
Please e-mail as I don't have time always to read this group
John | rec.sport.baseball |
Am I supposed to take that as a compliment or a put down? Just wondering.
I do this as a service to the entire baseball world on USENET, especially
for those in the East Coast who can't get final scores for West Coast games
in their newspapers or late TV newscasts. This is helpful to fans in other
countries who either receive only weekly scores or updates by the week. Also,
many have requested for this kind of service previously but it was only
available through BBS's or some pay news services. By the way, mine is free
of charge and has no copyright restrictions.
Remember I only post final scores and the updated standings once a day to the
rec.sport.baseball newsgroup. Other than that, everything is done through
private e-mail. Currently, there are 986 people on my mailing list that
branches off into other mailing lists available for many others. And the list
grows by an average of 35 people a day.
If people on USENET really don't want to see the postings I do to
rec.sport.baseball on a daily basis, please just let me know. If the response
is overwhelming against the posts, I won't do it anymore.
Thanks for your time.
Joseph Hernandez
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Sorry, but I saw a survey somewhere that showed that America's favorite
team is the Damn Yankees. So much for the underdogs being loved. | rec.sport.baseball |
1975 H-1 500
Brand new top end
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Clean + black!
1,500$
Paul: (510) 839-2161
Please do not contact this email address: contact the seller.
Cheers | rec.motorcycles |
The event that had the most impact on Gaetti's career was his leg injury
in 1988. His performance dropped radically from 1988 to 1989. He was
still with the Twins in 1989 and 1990, but if you look at his stats (both
offensive and defensive), he never has come back to his pre-injury level. | rec.sport.baseball |
During the Detroit game Mon night there were octopus thrown on
the ice what is the meaning or symbolism here? They used to
throw fish on the ice here in Spokane afew years ago. I never
knew where this came from.
| rec.sport.hockey |
Count me interested in a Cardinal's mailing list. If anyone
finds one or starts one, please let me know.
Thanks,
Dick Detweiler | rec.sport.baseball |
Yes. He thought about it.
Jack Waters II
DoD#1919 | rec.motorcycles |
hey... I'm pretty new to the wonderful world of motorcycles... I just
bought
a used 81 Kaw KZ650 CSR from a friend.... I was just wondering what kind of
saddle bags I could get for it (since I know nothing about them) are there
bags for the gas tank? how much would some cost, and how much do they
hold?
thanks for your advice!!! I may be new to riding, but I love it
already!!!!
:)
| rec.motorcycles |
You think that's bad ... one year, we had all three New York teams in
the playoffs and the cableco operator (SCNY once shared a channel with
BET but someone forgot to throw the switch at 6PM) didn't know what I
was talking about ...
While it's nice that the NHL is back on American network TV, it faces
the same problems as it did with the All Star game. Local preemptions
and zero promotion (okay, I don't watch that much TV so I'm just foaming
all right?). The league should have made sure that it was solid on cable
before going to the networks. In year one of the new ESPN contract, the
saturation coverage of SCA (all other games shown to completion, like
the Quebec-Montreal and Sabres-Bruins overtimes) is missed around here.
gld | rec.sport.hockey |
Kevin Mitchell's sacrifice fly in the eighth off Brett Saberhagen plated
pitch runner Cesar Hernandez to give the Reds a 2-3 come-from-behind victory over
New York. Hernandez ran for pinch-hitter Cecil Espy, who got the inning started
with a solid single to right, moved to second on "Bob" Kelly's infield sneaker
down the third-base line, and to third on Jeff Branson's well-placed bunt--a
rare show of excellent execution by the recently hapless Reds offense.
Cincinnati trailed 2-0 after starter Tim Pugh blinked in the fifth. He had only
given up one hit in the first four innings, a fourth-inning lead-off double
by Vince Coleman. Coleman was left stranded at third by Bobby Bonilla after
Joe Orselak popped to short. Orselak was pinch-hitting for Eddie Murray who
argued plate umpire Kellogg's inside strike by "drawing the line" (really, he
should know better than that). Murray, and later manager Jeff Torborg ended up getting
tossed.
The Mets' fifth started with a Howard Johnson's first-pitch homer. Pugh must
have been slightly shaken, as he was popped on the next pitch by Jeff Kent's
single, then a Ryan Thompson liner to left was (surprise) misplayed by Mitchell
and turned into a RBI triple. Catcher Hundley's grounder to the drawn-in Branson
failed to bring Thompson in, then the play of the game occured:
Saberhagen was due up, so Reds pitching coach Larry Rothschild met with the infield
to discuss the possibility of a suicide squeeze. They called it perfectly:
Thompson was hung out to dry after Pugh's first-pitch pitch out and the threat ended.
(Isn't the NATIONAL LEAGUE great??)
The Reds picked up 2 runs in the seventh to knot up the game. After Barry Larkin's
ground out, Mitchell, Chris Sabo, and Randy Milligan got back-to-back-to-back
singles--the third scoring Mitchell. Reggie Sanders then plated Sabo with a long
fly to center. A double by Oliver might have scored runner Dan Wilson, but
third base coach Dave Bristol threw up the stop sign too late--Wilson himself was
hung out to dry killing the Reds rally.
Rob Dibble came on in the ninth and pitched shakily. With two outs and a runner
on second Bonilla came to the plate and all I could think of was the Sunday game
in late August last year when Bonilla's three-run dinger slapped a loss on
Dibble and spelled the beginning of the end for Cinci's season. Bonilla ended
up walking, and HoJo flied out to left to give the Reds their first win in a
week, and earned Dibble his third save in as many opportunities. The win went
to Steve Foster (1-2) who got in what must be an ego-boosting two perfect innings
work, striking out three. Saberhagen (2-1) got the loss--though I'm a bit
surprised he even pitched in the eighth. I'll take it, though.
The Reds are now 3-9, still the worst team in baseball with the Royals victory
today. The Mets are 6-5.
The Line:
New York Mets
AB R H K BB LO
-----------------------------------------------|----------------------------
Coleman lf 4 0 1 0 0 0
Fernandez ss 4 0 0 1 0 0
Murray 1b 1 0 0 0 0 0
Orselak ph/rf 3 0 1 0 0 0
Bonilla rf/1b 3 0 0 2 1 1
Johnson 3b 3 1 1 1 0 2
Kent 2b 3 1 1 1 0 0
Thompson cf 3 0 1 1 0 0
Hundley c 3 0 0 2 0 0
Saberhagen p 3 0 0 0 0 0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals 30 2 5 8 1 3
HR-Johnson (off Pugh, leading off fifth, 0-0 pitch)
3b-Thompson (off Pugh, in fifth, 0 out, 1 RBI, picked-off)
2b-Coleman (off Pugh, in fourth, 0 out, 0 on, stranded at third)
RBI-Johnson, Thompson
Cincinnati Reds
AB R H K BB LO
-----------------------------------------------|----------------------------
Kelly cf 4 0 1 0 0 0
Branson 2b 3 0 1 0 0 0
Larkin ss 3 0 0 0 1 0
Mitchell lf 3 1 1 0 0 0
Dibble p 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sabo 3b 4 1 1 1 0 2
Milligan 1b 3 0 3 0 0 0
Wilson pr/c 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sanders rf 2 0 0 0 0 1
Oliver c/1b 3 0 1 1 0 1
Pugh p 1 0 0 1 0 0
Roberts ph 1 0 0 1 0 0
Foster p 0 0 0 0 0 0
Espy ph 1 0 1 0 0 0
Hernandez pr/lf 0 1 0 0 0 0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals 28 3 9 4 1 5 (*)
(*) Oliver was stranded in the seventh after his double when Wilson was run down.
2b Oliver (off Saberhagen, 2 out, runner on first, stranded)
RBI-Milligan, Sanders, and Mitchell
Sac-Branson
SF-Sanders and Mitchell
IBB-Larkin
GDP-Larkin
New York 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 ---- 2-5-0
Cincinnati 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 x ---- 3-9-0
Pitching
IP R ER H K BB
NEW YORK
Saberhagen (L 2-1) 8 3 3 9 4 1
CINCINNATI
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Foster (W 1-2) 2 0 0 0 3 0
Dibble (S 3) 1 0 0 1 1 1
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Ejected-Murray, Torborg
Umps-Kellogg/Relliford/Runge/DeMuth
Attendance 32,435
T- 2:23
Coming up:
The Reds travel to Pittsburgh for three then continue on into Chicago for
three. Next game is Tuesday at 7:35, expected to pitch are Belcher (0-1)
vs. Tomlin (0-0).
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and bill james is not? yeah. sure. do you own "the bill james players
rating book"? | rec.sport.baseball |
Absolutely, unless you are in the U.S. Then the cager will pull a gun
and blow you away. | rec.motorcycles |
Well, actually, most of ours is based on what really happened and yours is
based on some fantasy of how it happened. But that's OK, I understand you
have a hockey background. Stats like "plus/minus" make RBI look good.
OK, how about a straigh answer, then. Here's a very simele question to which
I'm sure a fair number of us are very interesed in the answer to. Please
answer yes or no, Roger:
Can a pitcher cause the offensive players on his team to score more runs?
AL only, please.
For anyone else following along, it is a well-known and demonstrable fact
that a team's win-loss record is closely related to the number of runs the
team scores and the number the team allows. It's not a definite,
hard-and-fast function, but there is definitely a correlation. In fact, as a
rule of thumb, if teams A and B both score X runs and team A allows Y runs,
for every 10 runs fewer than Y that team B allows, it will win another game.
So, for instance, if we look at the 1991 Toronto Blue Jays, we find that
they scored 780 runs and allowed 682, of which Morris allowed 114. All other
things being equal, if Frank Viola, with his 3.44 ERA had replaced Jack
Morris for the 240.2 innings Morris threw (plausible, since Viola threw 238
for Boston), the "Red Jays" would have allowed about 15 fewer runs, or
enough for 1-2 more wins. Now, that doesn't take into account that Viola
pitched half his innings in Fenway, which is a harder park to pitch in
(particularly for a lefthander) than Skydome. So, um, Roger. Unless you
really do believe that a pitcher can somehow affect the number of runs
his team scores, could you enlighten us to the fallacy in this
analysis? Clearly, it would be foolhardy to claim that Viola would
necessarily have put up a 3.44 if he had been on the Jay last year, but
that is not the claim. We look at what the actual performances were and
evaluate Viola's as better than Morris' in the sense that "had Morris
performed as Viola did, his team would have been better off."
This is true, but not so open that your brain falls out.
Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | [email protected] | rec.sport.baseball |
BRING BACK HARRY! (NEALE) At least he was witty...
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Yes, however, with the top off and the rear window down this car is more
like a convertible than a coupe. Think of it as a convertible with an
integrated roll-bar like addition. | rec.autos |
Sutcliffe gives up 3 HRs (Gonzales 1, Palmer 2) and Mills gives up
1 HR (Gonzales) to lose 7-4. Sutcliffe
Texas 7 10 0 Lefferts 1-0
Baltimore 4 9 0 Sutcliffe 0-1
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Francis got 101 in 89-90, his last full season with Hartford. | rec.sport.hockey |
These arethe numbers I have been stating in the past 5-10 messages. It
really angers me that you insisted you were right, and that you had
no clue what your own car weighed. Why didn't you check when I first
told you that your figures were implausible?
I'd like to hear a better explanatin of how you come to that
conclusion from the above data.
No, sorry your wrong again. *You* quoted the del Sol as doing 0-60 in
8.1 according to C+D. Interestingly, the Stealth ES, which is
*faster* than your RT does the samerun in 8.5 seconds according to
C+D. Kind of embarassing isn't it? Why didn't you check the figures
before posting? It only makes you look stupid when you are caught out
twice with *your own* figures.
You really should have checked.
*2*
If you insist, I gave you every chance to retract, but:
Dodge Stealth ES Auto does an 8.5/16.4 - Wonder why you couldn't find it?
Do you realize that a 9k Sentra (C+D) will run a 16.7, that a Sentra SE-R or Saturn
will run in the 15's? Don't you think it is kind of strange that your
222hp sports car is so easily beaten.
A Mustang 5.0, which weights about the same (according to *your* numbers),
has less power and is much quicker? Care to explain. Don't be abusive,
just try and come up with a rational explanation of where those 222hp
went to, its a mystery to me.
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I can't believe that the NY Rangers would force its
players to go to Binghamtom to play in the AHL playoffs instead
of letting them represent their countries in the World Championships.
Anderrson and Zubov are waiting for the NHL to make a decision to this,
while Kovalev has given in and gone down to the minors.
The Rangers are a disgrace.
ps. it has been reported that Neil Smith was very much against
the hiring of Mike Keenan. How long will Smith be in NY for? | rec.sport.hockey |
:
: And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,
: resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other
: team captain trivia would be appreciated.
:
Luc Robitaille was captain of the Kings the first third of the season,
until The Great One came back from his disc injury. It was kind of
awkward, but Melrose appointed (anointed?) TGO as captain immediately upon
his return, after which he did not score a goal for something like 10
games.
I think Luc should have remained Captain all season. | rec.sport.hockey |