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cfhowlett
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dead. end of life. no longer supported
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cfhowlett
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!eol | joufflu
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ubottu
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joufflu: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
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joufflu
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thank you
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cfhowlett
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happy2help!
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mail-man
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I'm trying to repurpose an old MacMini G4 (1.4GHz CPU, Radeon 9200 32MB VRAM) computer with Ubuntu 14.04 PPC, but I'm having a lot of issues with choppy video reproduction on browsers like midori, firefox, etc. Video reproduction using VLC/Mplayer2 works fine though. What could be causing this?
2018-02-27
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mail-man
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err, I meant video playback.
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<system>
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=== mooncakehexchat is now known as Guest35859
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DiecastMessiah
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I think you may want to use xfce desktop env .. unity would be a bit much for that system
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DiecastMessiah
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too much**
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mail-man
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DiecastMessiah, I am currently using LXDE, the system seems relatively snappy
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cfhowlett
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mail-man, try this: sudo apt install lxde xfce4
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cfhowlett
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then logout, choose an alternate session and login
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DiecastMessiah
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oh ok i think lxde is lighter than xfce but not by much.. but lighter still
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mail-man
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the problem arises when playing videos from a browser exclusively, frame rate drops to 5 FPS or something like that, if I use a video player it runs well
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cfhowlett
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suggesting that it's not hardware then. perhaps too many active plugins in your browser?
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DiecastMessiah
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well videos on the web are highly compressed
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DiecastMessiah
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thats more ram and cpu power to decord than on the fly
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cfhowlett
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might have to pass on the HD resolution videos, mail-man
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DiecastMessiah
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decode sorry typos
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mail-man
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actually, I've been doing all my tests with 480p videos.. the weird thing is that if I download 480p youtube videos, the playback works fine in VLC/mplayer, whereas it is very choppy in the browser
2018-02-27
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cfhowlett
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try a different browser.
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cfhowlett
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chromium-browser perhaps?
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kenrin
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well it has to decode the video and copy back into the frame buffer, it takes more work to view on a browser versus just into VLC or mplayer
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mail-man
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I attempted all these tests with midori, firefox, epiphany-browser. Chromium is not supported in PPC arch I think.
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DiecastMessiah
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yeah cfhowlett would be right.. the browser is most likely taking just a bit too much ram for the video to run
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kenrin
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There is plugins available like omxplayer for chromium that can "workaround" this
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kenrin
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Mostly they are geared towards raspi units
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tylerrud2002
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I am having problems connecting to OFTC
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tylerrud2002
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using pidgin
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mail-man
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I saw a video on YT of a guy who has a similar MacMini (the only difference is that his GPU has 32+ MB of VRAM), and everything works well, could this difference account for the huge disparity in performance?: https://youtu.be/m2mx9lmhEuQ?t=795
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kenrin
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Is it the same GPU? Maybe he has hardware decoding or something else
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cfhowlett
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that vram advantage could very well explain the better performance.
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mail-man
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yeah, it is the same GPU, but it only has 32MB vram, the one in the video has 64MB. are there any diagnostics I can check in order to verify if I have full 2d/3d accel?
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OerHeks
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i am surpriced that this PPC/Radeon9200 plays video
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kenrin
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In chrome you can do chrome://gpu/. I'm sure there is similar for other browsers
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mail-man
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to be honest, I didn't check if OSX 10.5 video performance was that good, I might install it again and check if video playback is as bad as I currently get on ubuntu ppc
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cfhowlett
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https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/linux-gpu-benchmark/ mail-man
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cfhowlett
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mesa-utils > glxgears might be a good starting point
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<system>
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=== Guest35859 is now known as mooncakehexcha
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mail-man
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just tried it, I get 30FPS if I maximize the glxgears window at a 1024x768@32 res
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kenrin
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So about half of what it takes to not be choppy
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mail-man
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glxinfo reports: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5962) DRI2
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cfhowlett
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ram. must have more ram! see ebay/amazon for options
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<system>
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=== mooncakehexcha is now known as obythd
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mail-man
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It is running on 512mb ram so that must be an issue as well
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mail-man
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I'll try installing 10.5 and checking its performance to see if it's a kernel module/driver issue
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mail-man
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thanks for your help guys!
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DiecastMessiah
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yeah not sure if mac are like pc's but vram just mean it uses 32mb on the normal ram... but thats with pc's
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=== obythd is now known as mookcakehexchat
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DiecastMessiah
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but it may have its own decated ram.. hard to say without reading the full spec's
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mail-man
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I think it may have its own dedicated ram, I only used the term VRAM because I thought that was appropriate to describe that spec
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kenrin
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thats exactly what it means, virtual ram
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cfhowlett
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mail-man, props for keeping the device running. as you've noticed, system demands invoked by media is increasingly exponentially. Perhaps time to repurpose your device? Personal cloud storage, music player or ubuntu mirror leap to mind ...
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DiecastMessiah
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or to play oldold 90 games :)
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cfhowlett
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we can always use another Doom server. Always!
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mail-man
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cfhowlett, indeed, at least in the browsing department it seems that the requirements have increased greatly, if I can't get it to play videos on a browser I might just turn it into a kodi box for streaming, it seems to handle 480p fine as long as it isn't being displayed on a browser :)
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cfhowlett
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I like the way you think! You make up your own rules.
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cfhowlett
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Oh! Steam server? Counterstrike Source?
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DiecastMessiah
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to bad prism broswer died .. that may have done the trick .. i miss it :)
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mail-man
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midori and epiphany browser are quite lightweight, netsurf was the lightest of all but a lot of websites don't work well with its html/js interpreter
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=== dingir___ is now known as dingir
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DiecastMessiah
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yeah can see that java is powerful but it a hog to
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=== mitch is now known as Guest95495
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mookcakehexchat
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hi guys can anyone tell me the offtopic ubuntu channel was able to find for other flavors not ubuntu though
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cfhowlett
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you mean xubuntu-offtopic ...?
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nacc_
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mookcakehexchat: #ubuntu-offtopic
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just general questions not related to help am running ubuntu so figure xubuntu wouldnt be it
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cfhowlett
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some flavors have an offtopic channel. most don't. doesn't seem to be a frequent or high-priority request.
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mookcakehexchat
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:)
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maki
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qwasdxlo1
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mookcakehexchat
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how do you guys find a channel on a given topic not using /list -verbose and small window som much to hover over to get details about channel topic
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DiecastMessiah
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most irc clinets have a channel list window
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mookcakehexchat
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anything eqiv to a search engine perhaps
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nacc
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!alis | mookcakehexchat
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ubottu
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mookcakehexchat: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"
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mookcakehexchat
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thannks
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mutante
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mookcakehexchat: basically i just join it and see if it exists. if it's the name of a free software it usually just works on freenode :)
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mutante
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(but you may have to try # and ##)
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garyserj
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I don't fully understand this syntax for ufw. sudo ufw allow from 15.15.15.0/24 to any port 5432 Why does it say to any port, if it's only one port or the ports listed?
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mutante
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i would think "any" means IP
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mutante
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but it's unfortunate wrding
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nacc
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imagine a comma there
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mutante
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from 15.15.15.0/24 to any network, to port 5432
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mookcakehexchat
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thanks for the alis suggestion
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segersjerry
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Hi, I just set up my printer (canon pixma mg8120) using the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems on a 16.04 ubuntu mate box. The printer functions perfectly, but it pops up 19 "error" messages as shown here - https://i.imgur.com/VaaJOK0.png How do I prevent status messages being displayed as error messages?
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mutante
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almost more confusing than using iptables directly.. despite the point of ufw.. i guess
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DiecastMessiah
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segersjerry: those look like notices .. is there an option in gnome setting.. sorru it been may year that i looked at gnome2 Desktop
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DiecastMessiah, checking, brb
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i hope there is if not i have no other idea's... i'm still pretty newish
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DiecastMessiah
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but i played with linux a few times over the years.
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garyserj
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mutante: what does to any network mean? it's going to that machine isn't it?
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garyserj: probably "interface", as in one of possibly multiple network cards
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mutante
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which could each be in different networks
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garyserj
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ah ok, thanks
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mutante
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they can also be virtual
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mutante
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multiple interfaces and IP addresses in the same machine
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RA3OR
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need some help, i have a symlink that keeps reverting to previous path, tried ln -sfn, tried removing it, forcibly overriding the path.... after some time it reverts to previous path
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