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geez
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so yeah their sleep deprived and then and
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it's a sweat and there's no standards i mean there's no work rules like if like if they were unionized or say a regular actor a t v program
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right are they getting paid at all
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a lot of them aren't getting paid say you know for their time but they have the opportunity
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to win something so they when they sign that contract it may be like thirty pages of boiler plate
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but essentially it says you know they can do anything they want the producers
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right
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and
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absolutely i mean you know it's the
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perfect example of you know if you're not on t v it's a or if it's not on t v it hasn't happened
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right
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yeah
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i saw a great movie recently that i i imagine you've seen it ummm did you ever see dog day afternoon
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oh sure yeah i remember when it came out yeah
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yeah
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yeah it's it's sort of a great example of the ummm whole media frenzy yeah
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network i think was really
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paddy chayefsky wrote directed it or no he wrote it and well he's a great screenwriter network was at peter finch where the newscaster goes nuts they had and then he gets his own reality show he says i'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore that one
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that show was pressing because and this was this was this came out like in i think mid seventies remember have you seen it oh you gotta see it network it's great ummm yeah and basically you know they
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network
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ummm i noticed that the director had also directed that ummm movie about the cop in new york city that al pacine starred in
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oh yes serpico
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yeah
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yeah great movie who directed i can't remember who directed serpico
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i don't remember the name
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scorsese martin scorsese maybe no
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hmmm but ummm weird weird style weird characters you know like serpico a
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real weird guy
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and that really happened too
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both yeah both dog day afternoon too
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yeah of course you know i mean it's based on fact but yeah but yeah so anything any that's why i don't enjoy fiction writing as much as i used to because no matter what they make up something weirder has really happened
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unless it's science fiction
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right
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ummm so i was watching ummm a documentary and i thought of you cause you were last time you were here you had mentioned you read the ummm the
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oh you saw on pbs the yeah
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shock doctrine
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no i didn't see i didn't see her naomi klein or natalie klein
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no it was you saw the other one the history of
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yeah something like that
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money or some it was close
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yeah yeah financial history of money i think it is
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uhhh huh
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yeah it's like i did then i saw the the documentary it wasn't bad but it i don't agree with his
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views of once again the chicago school of economics
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yeah
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and the more i think about that the more i think it's nuts they they rely on people to be rational and people are not rational so it's basically flawed and they rely on
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the the free free unfettered capitalism to regulate itself
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well it's ridiculous it can't i mean it's human nature
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right
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i'm
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trying to think what was the the unseen hand it was called and i'm trying to think of who came up with that theory i think it was in the seventeenth mid seventeenth century yeah the invisible hand right
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oh the invisible hand yeah yeah
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ummm yeah what is that guy's name
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it'll come to me about
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adam smith is that right
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bingo yeah
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i used to have recall like that but i'm a little slower on the uptake
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yeah well you know so magic basically
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so it's probably closer to evolution how the economy
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worked as far as those who rise to the top
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rather than the some invisible hand
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right
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ummm so what else in here ummm you live you live in center city
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oh what else
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yeah oh right we're supposed to keep talking for conversation sorry i'm
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it's okay
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yeah i'm i'm not a big talker but
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what else happened well let's see i didn't get to the park on house square to read the paper on sunday because of the weather and that that that was very upsetting you know
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bad and
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talked to my pop yesterday did i tell you about he's he's almost ninety
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wow
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and he's not like one of these frail old guys he still goes to the gym dates drives it's like weird it's unnatural
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you know he's one of the guys like he was in the army before pearl harbor he was overseas for thirty three months master sergeant
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and he refused to get sick and die like a normal person i mean it's just unnatural
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he goes to the gym
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yeah i mean he's not like a frail little guy with his walker funny hat and little change purse that they all seem to get at a certain age
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it's weird
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and yeah
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so yeah and you know he does anything anybody sixty could do
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and he's still yeah so anyway i talk to him and every time i complain about a new ache or pain same answer ah you ain't seen nothing yet kid
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still calls me i'm over fifty and he still calls me kid okay
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yeah
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yeah
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my
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i'll
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dad does the same thing
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say it'll get worse i say geez it was hot today huh pop he says hot you don't know from hot let me tell you
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so he was overseas for world war two
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over the pacific for thirty three months yeah so yeah he was in the
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wow
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it's hot there
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yeah it's weird too he was like in in in the army and
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yeah a
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lot of people were over there at that time but you know it's like it was a no win thing
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what he hated most was the troop ships he says because they were
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jammed in there like sardines
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and you had to walk around the deck a couple times just to find a place to sit down
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and and even after you made it through a landing those who weren't wounded or killed
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