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He's the one who wants you.
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It was the other guy who busted me.
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It was the other guy who busted me.
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'Cause if he busted you, you'd play hell bonding out of federal court. He doesn't want you mad at him, he wants you to tell him what you know. He uses you to get a line on Ordell, make a case, then take him federal. You know what Ordell's into?
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'Cause if he busted you, you'd play hell bonding out of federal court. He doesn't want you mad at him, he wants you to tell him what you know. He uses you to get a line on Ordell, make a case, then take him federal. You know what Ordell's into?
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I have a pretty good idea. Ordell ain't no bootlegger and I doubt he's smugglin' Cuban cigars. So that only leaves one thing an A.T.F. man would be interested in.
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Whatever it was had to fit in my bag and not hit you in the face if the bag was opened. This ain't solvin' my problem. I gotta figure out a way to either keep my job or get out of trouble. I'm off today, but if I can't leave the country I'm out of a job. And if I don't got a job, I can't hire a lawyer.
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Ask A.T.F. They might give you permission.
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Ask A.T.F. They might give you permission.
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Yeah, if I cooperate.
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Yeah, if I cooperate.
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Well, Jackie, you got caught, you're gonna have to give 'em something.
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Well, Jackie, you got caught, you're gonna have to give 'em something.
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But if all I can give 'em is Ordell's name -- I don't really know shit about what he does or how he does it -- That don't give me much to bargain with.
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But if all I can give 'em is Ordell's name -- I don't really know shit about what he does or how he does it -- That don't give me much to bargain with.
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Give 'em what you got. Offer to help. Show a willingness to be helpful. You want to stay out of jail, don't you?
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How do you get it out?
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Same way I been doin', but first they got to let me go back to work.
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Same way I been doin', but first they got to let me go back to work.
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You're gonna offer to set him up?
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You're gonna offer to set him up?
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If I get let off. Otherwise, fuck 'em.
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If I get let off. Otherwise, fuck 'em.
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It's very possible Ordell's killed somebody.
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It's very possible Ordell's killed somebody.
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I ain't goin' to jail, and I ain't doin' that probation thing again.
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My ass ain't the same.
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Bigger?
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Bigger?
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Yeah.
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Does something else worry you?
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I just feel like I'm always starting over. You said how many bonds you wrote?
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I just feel like I'm always starting over. You said how many bonds you wrote?
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Fifteen thousand.
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Fifteen thousand.
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Well, I've flown seven million miles. And I've been waitin' on people almost twenty years. The best job I could get after my bust was Cabo Air, which is about the worst job you can get in this industry. I make about sixteen thousand, with retirement benefits, ain't worth a damn. And now with this arrest hanging over my head, I'm scared. If I lose my job I gotta start all over again, but I got nothin' to start over with. I'll be stuck with whatever I can get. And that scares me more than Ordell.
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What're you, a bag lady?
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I go back to work tomorrow.
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I go back to work tomorrow.
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You talk them into it?
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You talk them into it?
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They seem to like the idea.
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They seem to like the idea.
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Bring the money in and they follow it?
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Bring the money in and they follow it?
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Yea, but I'm going to dress it up. Put the money in a shopping bag and hand it to someone I meet here.
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Yea, but I'm going to dress it up. Put the money in a shopping bag and hand it to someone I meet here.
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You don't actually do it that way?
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You don't actually do it that way?
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He always just picked it up at my place. But with A.T.F. involved, I want to stage it. You know, make it look more intriguing, like we know what the fuck we're doin'. Then it's up to Ray Nicolet, the A.T.F. guy to follow the shopping bag.
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He always just picked it up at my place. But with A.T.F. involved, I want to stage it. You know, make it look more intriguing, like we know what the fuck we're doin'. Then it's up to Ray Nicolet, the A.T.F. guy to follow the shopping bag.
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Make the delivery somewhere in the mall.
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Make the delivery somewhere in the mall.
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Right around here, in the food court.
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Right around here, in the food court.
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Sit down, leave the bag under the table?
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I told them Ordell's changed the amount he's bringing in.
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Do you think they bought it?
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Do you think they bought it?
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Oh, yeah. I got them thinking Ordell's real nervous. They love thinking he's scared of them.
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Oh, yeah. I got them thinking Ordell's real nervous. They love thinking he's scared of them.
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You know, a good cop won't let you know he knows you're fulla shit.
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You know, a good cop won't let you know he knows you're fulla shit.
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All he needed was a reasonable explanation.
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It never was, so I'm not gonna start worrying about it now. Look, Ray more or less believes my story, and he more or less doesn't care. All he really gives a shit about is getting Ordell.
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So how do we give Ordell to Nicolet?
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So how do we give Ordell to Nicolet?
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Get Ordell to come to your office.
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Get Ordell to come to your office.
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Set him up.
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Set him up.
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Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh.
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Tell him you want to see him?
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Tell him you want to see him?
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Tell him I want to give him his money.
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Tell him I want to give him his money.
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Why?
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Why?
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I've chickened out. I'm afraid of him. He'll like that.
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I've chickened out. I'm afraid of him. He'll like that.
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What do you tell Nicolet?
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What do you tell Nicolet?
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Ordell called and wants to meet me and I'm scared.
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Ordell called and wants to meet me and I'm scared.
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We get Ordell to come to my office. Nicolet -- is he already there, or does he come busting in while we're chatting?
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I saw Ray the other day. Boy is he pissed he missed all the excitement.
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What's he doing?
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What's he doing?
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He's on to a new thing. He's after a guy who owns a gun shop he says is "woefully and wantonly" selling assault rifles to minors. He says he's gonna take him down if it's the last thing he does.
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He's on to a new thing. He's after a guy who owns a gun shop he says is "woefully and wantonly" selling assault rifles to minors. He says he's gonna take him down if it's the last thing he does.
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Did you tell him you were leaving?
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Did you tell him you were leaving?
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I told him I might.
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And what would this be, Sweet and Low?
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What the fuck is that shit?
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What the fuck is that shit?
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I know what it looks like.
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I know what it looks like.
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You planted that shit on me.
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Look, that shit ain't mine.
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It isn't enough for Trafficking, but how 'bout Posession with the Intent to Distribute?
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No shit. You know how he makes his money?
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He sells guns.
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He sells guns.
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You ever see him sell guns?
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You ever see him sell guns?
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No.
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No.
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Then how do you know he sells guns?
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Then how do you know he sells guns?
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He told me. Besides, why else would an A.T.F. man be after him?
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He told me. Besides, why else would an A.T.F. man be after him?
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How can you help us?
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How can you help us?
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Short of wearing a wire, I'll do everything I can to help you throw his ass in jail. And in exchange for my help, I need permission to leave the country and immunity.
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Ordell has a white guy working for him named Louis.
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You two meet?
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You two meet?
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This afternoon before I came here. He was with Ordell at an apartment in Hermosa Beach. I don't know if he lives there, but I can find out.
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This afternoon before I came here. He was with Ordell at an apartment in Hermosa Beach. I don't know if he lives there, but I can find out.
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You talk to him?
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You talk to him?
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Not really.
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Not really.
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His full name is Louis Gara. He just got out from serving four years in Susanville.
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His full name is Louis Gara. He just got out from serving four years in Susanville.
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What for?
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What for?
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Bank robbery? Do you know what he does for Ordell?
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Bank robbery? Do you know what he does for Ordell?
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I imagine shit needs to be done.
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I imagine shit needs to be done.
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We've been following Mr. Gara, and he's definitely working for Ordell.
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...Compton with a fifty-six-year- old petty thief -- woman named Simone Hawkins.
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Ever meet her, or they talk about her?
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Ever meet her, or they talk about her?
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Not yet.
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Not yet.
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Who's the other one?
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Who's the other one?
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White girl named Melanie Ralston. Another girlfriend of Ordell's.
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White girl named Melanie Ralston. Another girlfriend of Ordell's.
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What's her story?
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What's her story?
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It was her coke I got busted with. She knows everything, but she's not part of it, and she's pissed cause she's not part of it. Ordell wouldn't even let her stay at the meeting. She tried to talk me into ripping off Ordell.
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It was her coke I got busted with. She knows everything, but she's not part of it, and she's pissed cause she's not part of it. Ordell wouldn't even let her stay at the meeting. She tried to talk me into ripping off Ordell.
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And splittin' with her?
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And splittin' with her?
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I'm sure that was the idea.
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I'm sure that was the idea.
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What did you say?
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What did you say?
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I smiled and walked away. She also told me Ordell killed Beaumont.
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I smiled and walked away. She also told me Ordell killed Beaumont.
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She told you that?
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She told you that?
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Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh.
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Was she there?
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Was she there?
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She didn't say.
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She didn't say.
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But she mentioned Beaumont by name?
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But she mentioned Beaumont by name?
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Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh.
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Well, this sounds like a lady I'd like to have a word with. So everything's set for tomorrow?
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Well, this sounds like a lady I'd like to have a word with. So everything's set for tomorrow?
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Right. Everything's the same, except one change...
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You think I'm kidding?
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Dreaming.
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Dreaming.
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You know how easy it would be? He won't be anywhere near that mall. Pull one more switch, up front. That's it. Half-a-million dollars. Need help?
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You know how easy it would be? He won't be anywhere near that mall. Pull one more switch, up front. That's it. Half-a-million dollars. Need help?
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Keep it between us girls?
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Keep it between us girls?
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What's that fucker ever done for us?
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What's that fucker ever done for us?
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I don't think so, but thanks for the beer.
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I put a little cherry on top. You're right. What the hell he ever do for us?
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Thanks.
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Thanks.
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Now be careful with that bag. You don't want it ripping open on you in the middle of the store.
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For what?
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Who you think got your ass outta jail?
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What do you think it is?
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I think it's a gun pressing against my dick.
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I think it's a gun pressing against my dick.
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You thought right... Now take your hands from around my throat, nigga.
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What the hell you doin'?
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Shut your ass up and grab the wall!
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Now, baby, that's got nothin' to do with you. I just carry that. You been listenin' to them cops too much.
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The cops didn't try and strangle my ass.
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The cops didn't try and strangle my ass.
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Damn, Jackie, I was just playin' with you.
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Damn, Jackie, I was just playin' with you.
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Well, I ain't playin with you. I'm gonna unload both these motherfuckers, you don't do what I tell you. Understand what I'm saying?
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Well, I ain't playin with you. I'm gonna unload both these motherfuckers, you don't do what I tell you. Understand what I'm saying?
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Baby, I ain't come here -- She shoves both guns in Ordell's back.
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