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Just because you’re a minor you can’t be expected to get away with not paying a bus fare. Even if you forget an opal card, bank cards can be used.
What was the behaviour like of the two that got kicked off?
You absolutely have no complaint here at all.
no pay no ride. Everyone gets kicked off if they get caught not paying even kids.
Welcome to the real world kid
Stop being a fucking whiner and get your friends an opal card. How difficult is it to pay a few bucks for a bus ride
That's a POLICY not a law, and applies only in QLD.
Fare evasion is illegal.
Were they being arseholes. I've never seen anyone kicked off for not tapping, plenty kicked off for being arseholes.
Ok a bus driver who cares about people not tapping…. Seen plenty of adults and teenagers getting on bus not tapping and driver could not care less… probably thinking it is not their job and wait for ticket inspector….
How do you suggest that the driver was to ascertain that your friends were minors in order to apply such a policy?
What kind of action do you think should be taken?
Did the other friend tap off?
Why didn’t your friend ask their parents to send an Uber?
This should actually be illegal. Does anyone remember what happened to Daniel Morcombe? I definitely know in QLD that’s illegal but it should be nation wide.
Some children should be left behind.
What's with asshole brigade in this reply section?
I am assuming op is a child (or young at least) and simply asked a question, they were polite and remained polite when answering replies, the whole "welcome to the adult world" attitude and the name calling really comes off as arrogant and foolish ... some of you need to grow up and act your age.
In Victoria, it might be excusable because our myki system means you must have a card.
In QLD the system is flawed and so frustrating some times I can’t be arsed tapping on.
In NSW you can just tap on with ease 100% of the time. Forget your opal? Pay with card. Don’t have a card? Get your friend to pay with their card. I’ve only dare evaded twice, both because I was carrying a massive amount of stuff, it was a short trip and not worth the effort of getting my card out.
k hi so if u have seen the other story on r/nsw, about the 2 teens being kicked off the bus for not paying the fare, hi that me, the 14 yr old one that did pay. yall r being so mean to my friend she literally just wanted to know the answer to the question and yall are bashing her.... she didnt do a very good job explaining so i will myself.
it was about 5pm and since we r in sydney, it was already quite dark. my parents and my friends parents were both unavailable to pick us up as they were busy, and we are both women and as you may know, especially in the area that we were, it isnt always safe for young women to roam the streets alone at night. throughout the day my friend and i had caught many busses as we were travelling but my friend had forgotten their opal card at home in the morning and we couldnt go back to get it. ofc we felt horrible about it but we didnt think it would be a big deal since all the other busses hadnt said anything, and i had been tapping on with my card. at the end of the day, we decided to catch the bus home. we were waiting when the bus approached and we got on, me going first, tapping my card and sitting down. when my friend got on right behind me, and sat down WITHOUT tapping on, the bus driver did not close the doors. he then said we both needed to get off. we proceeded to tell him that we were trying to get home and that my friend had forgotten their opal card at home this morning. he was VERY aware that we were minors as he refered to my friend as 'little girl'. when we explained that we both felt uncomfrtable walking home in the dark he said he didnt care and made us get off.
for those people who are being really rude for no reason, you should really learn the hwole story first.
Can’t believe you would ask a stupid question like that. Your friends kids committed a crime by not paying for a service that attracts a fee. Go back to school you dope!
Man fuck the driver!!! So sorry
Pretty sure their salary isn’t based on how many people tap on
I know that in Qld they are required to let kids on . Not sure about the other states.
In QLD the driver flags it to their head office via a button if they fail to pay for the ride
Thank you, ig my friends can’t do anything then.
In the south east they'd probably just steal a car.
>The no-child left behind stuff is....
From Hunt for the Wilderpeople.
I tried to search it up and obviously I didn’t get many clear answers regarding that type of stuff in nsw.
Okay well first off, I thought we thought it was illegal because of the kidnapping and stuff, secondly, this has never happened before, so if bus drivers and being punished for letting on minors without a bus pass, then why does he care? Maybe he should show some empathy at someone just trying to get home safely?
hi im the friend that tapped on, it was already getting dark and this was our way home none of our parents could get us its not our fault. we asked nicely to just stay on the bus and none of the other busses had said we couldnt so we just thought it was fine... stop being rude until yk the whole story...
Except a football game is a recreational activity/place that is solely for entertainment. Public transport is a means of getting home safely. The worst outcome that could happen not getting into a football game is being bored for a few hours. The worst outcomes of not being let on a bus is being kidnapped, raped, murdered, trafficked and more. They are not the same
hey im the friend that tapped on, we did nothing wrong.. this was our bus ride home and we had no other way to get home (we ended up walking in the dark and we are both women under the age of 18, very scared). we were both really polite and i did tap on and none of the other busses had said anythign all day. i even tried using my card and it didnt go through and my friends parents arent nice and dont give them money please stop being mean.
hey im the friend that did tap on, first of all shut the fuck up "the real world" i swear to god thats the most bs thing ive herad all day. second, we're both minors, women, and it was already dark by this time. we had to walk home alone and we were scared shitless. ok "assholejudger954" take your own asshole and shove it down your fucking throat!
Why are you all so hostile towards a literal 13/14 year old lmao.
Sure they’ve clearly got a lot of lessons to learn (like every 14yo in existence), but you can correct them with calling them a “fucking whiner”. Its just needless and embarrassing on your part, as someone I’d assume is notably older than 14.
my friend forgot their opal card calm down bro... no need to get all bitchy abt it god almighty..
They have one but they forgot it at home, besides I do have friends who never tap on and they have never been kicked off before
Also it’s not actually a policy in Australia. It’s a principle which can’t be legally enforced but is a principle that bus drivers are to use their own judgement as to whether to allow a child to get on the bus without a fare based on whether the child may be in danger/at risk if not allowed to get on and also based on whether this is a frequent occurrence. Ultimately the principle puts the responsibility on the parents of the child.
Thank you, I’ll be sure to tell my friends that.
No I think they just walked on normally, one of them tapped on and one didnt, when the bus driver said something about them not tapping on they explained the situation and they still got kicked off
hi im the friend that DID tap on, we werent at all. we're both realy nice and all we did was get on and sit down we didnt even say anything to the driver until he told us to get off, and then we asked nicely if he could just let us since it was already dark and we are both minors an women.
Yea none of my friends who don’t tap on have ever been called out or kicked off idk why this one did.
No he kicked them off before they Werte able to
Not everyone’s parents are nice. Their phone was dead and even if they wanted to ask their parents they would say no and make her walk.
I thought it was!! One of my friends had to walk like over an hour in the dark with their phone dead.
If people are being assholes ig it’s somewhat alright to be left behind but they were not being assholes. Anyhow this logic should not apply to children.
OP’s friends are 13 & 14 years old. What kind of cards would you suggest they use? Credit or debit card? Because likely neither would have either of those. OP is likely a minor too. And OP or friend can’t tap an OPAL card for a friend because the s/he would be tapping off or rehearsing the tap on.
Not all ones.
Yep.
They can pay next time
Especially Townsville
Or maybe your friend could’ve spoken to the driver instead of trying to get on without swiping his card.
Or maybe, just maybe, someone should just pay the exorbitant couple of bucks fare? Not that hard is it
You make good point about the risks of not catching the ride home. However, one can pay for the ride with coins and cash. Did your friends make an effort to pay with cash?
You can have all that happen to you after being kicked out of a footy game. Well done. They're aren't the same. Point is, you dont pay then you dont use. You don't hop in a taxi or Uber without paying so I don't see why you're dying on this hill of your friend essentially snubbing the driver of their days pay.
My thoughts as well ... some adults never grow up.
thank you, everyones being so mean and they dont ubderstand the situation we were in at all. good to know there are nice people in the world! (i am the friend that tapped on btw)
welcome to big school
So, they were gaming the system then. Turns out actions have consequences. Who knew?
hi! im the friend that did tap on, it wouldve made sense if this was early in the day but it was dark and neither of us are very strong and we are both women and the bus driver knew that since he called us "little girls". both our parents were busy and not available to pick us up.
And did the explanation contain a myriad of swears?
Remember when they complain the footage will be looked at and if they've verbally abused a person just trying to do there already difficult job they will face the consequences for that.
Sure bub, you're really demonstrating how well behaved and mature you are aren't you.
You realise, and I suspect you're one of these two not a friend, that you tap off without driver assistance or interference? You know that box at the front of the bus and the one at the rear doors? Or did neither have an Opal card and this is all.....
Also please explain, as I'm sure you can, why you weren't also kicked off with them?
Doesn't sounds like her parents were too concerned about kidnapping then.
Yeah maybe complain to NSW transport, or that certain bus company. Nothing may happen but at least they’ll be told so this (hopefully) won’t happen again.
If they're being arseholes yes it should.
Grow up, act appropriately or accept the reactions you encourage
this - if they explained to the driver first instead of trying to deceive them, chances are they would have been fine to ride
After the driver pointed it out they did try and speak to the driver, but since a few of their friends from a different friend group don’t ever tap on, they just thought that he wouldn’t care like the bus drivers who let my other friends ride for free.
IF THEY HAD A METHOD OF PAYING THEY TOTALLY WOULD
They can pay with cash? I dont they they allow people to pay with cash anymore. This in any case I’m sure if the bus driver told them about this option they would have definitely done it.
First off, I’m pretty sure the drivers get paid the same whether no people get on their bus or 50. Secondly, at a footy match there is security that usually sits outside. Being kidnapped was a concern for you, which for the target demographic of footy games (guys that are a bit older than my friends) they are welcome to sit near them until the end of the match and get home the way they planned.
Seriously. Getting aggressive towards a young teenager and calling them names over reddit, is really not the power move these guys think it is. Regardless of what OP did, it’s just plainly embarrassing for a grown adult to be that wound up over and invested in this.
I hate the term “touch grass”, but a LOT of people in this thread seriously need to log off reddit for a bit and take a breather, for their own sake, and for everyone else’s.
It did not. Why would they swear at a bus driver if they are trying to stay on the bus? I don’t think they will complain anymore after learning it was not in fact a law but they did not swear at the bus driver.
no it didnt. we literaelly just said "im sorry i forgot the card this morning, this is how we are getting home please let us stay". dont make dumb assumptions ass face
First off, I was not one of the friends. The friend who did tap on texted me the situation and asked me if I knew what they could do. After searching it up, I was unable to come up with an answer so I asked reddit. The friend was trying to tap off but the driver was yelling at her so much to leave that she did not end up tapping off.
we werent being assholes at all... we genuinly needed this bus to get home and had to walk back in the dark because this was one of the last busses coming today... (im the friend that tapped on btw)
The potential result of a child being kicked off of a bus is being kidnapped, are you saying because a child without a fully developed brain made a bad choice and was an arsehole they should be kidnapped? It’s a bit of a stretch, but thinking like that is not applicable to the real life situation they were facing. In any case they were not being arseholes.
Well, looks like they were wrong eh!! Tell them to talk to the driver next time instead of trying to hide it.
After is the key word here. In other words, if the driver hadn't said anything he would have happily fare evaded. When you're in a hole, don't dig.
You keep doubling down on this, and now you've resorted to teenage behaviour, all caps is yelling so you've already lost the argument, and "THEY TOTALLY WOULD" is third grade Grammer
The no child left behind stuff you are resting your defence on is related to Queensland only
It's a policy not a law
Your "friend" attempted to evade a fare, that is broke the law.
Your friend could have "tapped" on the way off the bus, the driver had no ability to stop this occuring.
You, or your friends, are entirely in the wrong. It's their fault, yours too if you are involved. Grow up, move on, stop being an entitled loser
https://www.busways.com.au/nsw/travel-info/ticketing-opal#:~:text=Tickets%20can%20be%20paid%20for,is%20best%20for%20your%20journey.
Hmmmmmmmmmm
You think a public service can’t be paid for in cash? Grow up dick head.
Tell your cheapskate mate that they lost the metro roulette.
Why wouldn't they swear at some random adult stopping them from getting what they want lol

Just because you’re a minor you can’t be expected to get away with not paying a bus fare. Even if you forget an opal card, bank cards can be used.

What was the behaviour like of the two that got kicked off?

You absolutely have no complaint here at all.

no pay no ride. Everyone gets kicked off if they get caught not paying even kids.

Welcome to the real world kid

Stop being a fucking whiner and get your friends an opal card. How difficult is it to pay a few bucks for a bus ride

That's a POLICY not a law, and applies only in QLD.

Fare evasion is illegal.

Were they being arseholes. I've never seen anyone kicked off for not tapping, plenty kicked off for being arseholes.

Ok a bus driver who cares about people not tapping…. Seen plenty of adults and teenagers getting on bus not tapping and driver could not care less… probably thinking it is not their job and wait for ticket inspector….

How do you suggest that the driver was to ascertain that your friends were minors in order to apply such a policy?

What kind of action do you think should be taken?

Did the other friend tap off?

Why didn’t your friend ask their parents to send an Uber?

This should actually be illegal. Does anyone remember what happened to Daniel Morcombe? I definitely know in QLD that’s illegal but it should be nation wide.

Some children should be left behind.

What's with asshole brigade in this reply section?

I am assuming op is a child (or young at least) and simply asked a question, they were polite and remained polite when answering replies, the whole "welcome to the adult world" attitude and the name calling really comes off as arrogant and foolish ... some of you need to grow up and act your age.

In Victoria, it might be excusable because our myki system means you must have a card.

In QLD the system is flawed and so frustrating some times I can’t be arsed tapping on.

In NSW you can just tap on with ease 100% of the time. Forget your opal? Pay with card. Don’t have a card? Get your friend to pay with their card. I’ve only dare evaded twice, both because I was carrying a massive amount of stuff, it was a short trip and not worth the effort of getting my card out.

k hi so if u have seen the other story on r/nsw, about the 2 teens being kicked off the bus for not paying the fare, hi that me, the 14 yr old one that did pay. yall r being so mean to my friend she literally just wanted to know the answer to the question and yall are bashing her.... she didnt do a very good job explaining so i will myself.

it was about 5pm and since we r in sydney, it was already quite dark. my parents and my friends parents were both unavailable to pick us up as they were busy, and we are both women and as you may know, especially in the area that we were, it isnt always safe for young women to roam the streets alone at night. throughout the day my friend and i had caught many busses as we were travelling but my friend had forgotten their opal card at home in the morning and we couldnt go back to get it. ofc we felt horrible about it but we didnt think it would be a big deal since all the other busses hadnt said anything, and i had been tapping on with my card. at the end of the day, we decided to catch the bus home. we were waiting when the bus approached and we got on, me going first, tapping my card and sitting down. when my friend got on right behind me, and sat down WITHOUT tapping on, the bus driver did not close the doors. he then said we both needed to get off. we proceeded to tell him that we were trying to get home and that my friend had forgotten their opal card at home this morning. he was VERY aware that we were minors as he refered to my friend as 'little girl'. when we explained that we both felt uncomfrtable walking home in the dark he said he didnt care and made us get off.

for those people who are being really rude for no reason, you should really learn the hwole story first.

Can’t believe you would ask a stupid question like that. Your friends kids committed a crime by not paying for a service that attracts a fee. Go back to school you dope!

Man fuck the driver!!! So sorry

Pretty sure their salary isn’t based on how many people tap on

I know that in Qld they are required to let kids on . Not sure about the other states.

In QLD the driver flags it to their head office via a button if they fail to pay for the ride

Thank you, ig my friends can’t do anything then.

In the south east they'd probably just steal a car.

>The no-child left behind stuff is....

From Hunt for the Wilderpeople.

I tried to search it up and obviously I didn’t get many clear answers regarding that type of stuff in nsw.

Okay well first off, I thought we thought it was illegal because of the kidnapping and stuff, secondly, this has never happened before, so if bus drivers and being punished for letting on minors without a bus pass, then why does he care? Maybe he should show some empathy at someone just trying to get home safely?

hi im the friend that tapped on, it was already getting dark and this was our way home none of our parents could get us its not our fault. we asked nicely to just stay on the bus and none of the other busses had said we couldnt so we just thought it was fine... stop being rude until yk the whole story...

Except a football game is a recreational activity/place that is solely for entertainment. Public transport is a means of getting home safely. The worst outcome that could happen not getting into a football game is being bored for a few hours. The worst outcomes of not being let on a bus is being kidnapped, raped, murdered, trafficked and more. They are not the same

hey im the friend that tapped on, we did nothing wrong.. this was our bus ride home and we had no other way to get home (we ended up walking in the dark and we are both women under the age of 18, very scared). we were both really polite and i did tap on and none of the other busses had said anythign all day. i even tried using my card and it didnt go through and my friends parents arent nice and dont give them money please stop being mean.

hey im the friend that did tap on, first of all shut the fuck up "the real world" i swear to god thats the most bs thing ive herad all day. second, we're both minors, women, and it was already dark by this time. we had to walk home alone and we were scared shitless. ok "assholejudger954" take your own asshole and shove it down your fucking throat!

Why are you all so hostile towards a literal 13/14 year old lmao.

Sure they’ve clearly got a lot of lessons to learn (like every 14yo in existence), but you can correct them with calling them a “fucking whiner”. Its just needless and embarrassing on your part, as someone I’d assume is notably older than 14.

my friend forgot their opal card calm down bro... no need to get all bitchy abt it god almighty..

They have one but they forgot it at home, besides I do have friends who never tap on and they have never been kicked off before

Also it’s not actually a policy in Australia. It’s a principle which can’t be legally enforced but is a principle that bus drivers are to use their own judgement as to whether to allow a child to get on the bus without a fare based on whether the child may be in danger/at risk if not allowed to get on and also based on whether this is a frequent occurrence. Ultimately the principle puts the responsibility on the parents of the child.

Thank you, I’ll be sure to tell my friends that.

No I think they just walked on normally, one of them tapped on and one didnt, when the bus driver said something about them not tapping on they explained the situation and they still got kicked off

hi im the friend that DID tap on, we werent at all. we're both realy nice and all we did was get on and sit down we didnt even say anything to the driver until he told us to get off, and then we asked nicely if he could just let us since it was already dark and we are both minors an women.

Yea none of my friends who don’t tap on have ever been called out or kicked off idk why this one did.

No he kicked them off before they Werte able to

Not everyone’s parents are nice. Their phone was dead and even if they wanted to ask their parents they would say no and make her walk.

I thought it was!! One of my friends had to walk like over an hour in the dark with their phone dead.

If people are being assholes ig it’s somewhat alright to be left behind but they were not being assholes. Anyhow this logic should not apply to children.

OP’s friends are 13 & 14 years old. What kind of cards would you suggest they use? Credit or debit card? Because likely neither would have either of those. OP is likely a minor too. And OP or friend can’t tap an OPAL card for a friend because the s/he would be tapping off or rehearsing the tap on.

Not all ones.

Yep.

They can pay next time

Especially Townsville

Or maybe your friend could’ve spoken to the driver instead of trying to get on without swiping his card.

Or maybe, just maybe, someone should just pay the exorbitant couple of bucks fare? Not that hard is it

You make good point about the risks of not catching the ride home. However, one can pay for the ride with coins and cash. Did your friends make an effort to pay with cash?

You can have all that happen to you after being kicked out of a footy game. Well done. They're aren't the same. Point is, you dont pay then you dont use. You don't hop in a taxi or Uber without paying so I don't see why you're dying on this hill of your friend essentially snubbing the driver of their days pay.

My thoughts as well ... some adults never grow up.

thank you, everyones being so mean and they dont ubderstand the situation we were in at all. good to know there are nice people in the world! (i am the friend that tapped on btw)

welcome to big school

So, they were gaming the system then. Turns out actions have consequences. Who knew?

hi! im the friend that did tap on, it wouldve made sense if this was early in the day but it was dark and neither of us are very strong and we are both women and the bus driver knew that since he called us "little girls". both our parents were busy and not available to pick us up.

And did the explanation contain a myriad of swears?

Remember when they complain the footage will be looked at and if they've verbally abused a person just trying to do there already difficult job they will face the consequences for that.

Sure bub, you're really demonstrating how well behaved and mature you are aren't you.

You realise, and I suspect you're one of these two not a friend, that you tap off without driver assistance or interference? You know that box at the front of the bus and the one at the rear doors? Or did neither have an Opal card and this is all.....

Also please explain, as I'm sure you can, why you weren't also kicked off with them?

Doesn't sounds like her parents were too concerned about kidnapping then.

Yeah maybe complain to NSW transport, or that certain bus company. Nothing may happen but at least they’ll be told so this (hopefully) won’t happen again.

If they're being arseholes yes it should.

Grow up, act appropriately or accept the reactions you encourage

this - if they explained to the driver first instead of trying to deceive them, chances are they would have been fine to ride

After the driver pointed it out they did try and speak to the driver, but since a few of their friends from a different friend group don’t ever tap on, they just thought that he wouldn’t care like the bus drivers who let my other friends ride for free.

IF THEY HAD A METHOD OF PAYING THEY TOTALLY WOULD

They can pay with cash? I dont they they allow people to pay with cash anymore. This in any case I’m sure if the bus driver told them about this option they would have definitely done it.

First off, I’m pretty sure the drivers get paid the same whether no people get on their bus or 50. Secondly, at a footy match there is security that usually sits outside. Being kidnapped was a concern for you, which for the target demographic of footy games (guys that are a bit older than my friends) they are welcome to sit near them until the end of the match and get home the way they planned.

Seriously. Getting aggressive towards a young teenager and calling them names over reddit, is really not the power move these guys think it is. Regardless of what OP did, it’s just plainly embarrassing for a grown adult to be that wound up over and invested in this.

I hate the term “touch grass”, but a LOT of people in this thread seriously need to log off reddit for a bit and take a breather, for their own sake, and for everyone else’s.

It did not. Why would they swear at a bus driver if they are trying to stay on the bus? I don’t think they will complain anymore after learning it was not in fact a law but they did not swear at the bus driver.

no it didnt. we literaelly just said "im sorry i forgot the card this morning, this is how we are getting home please let us stay". dont make dumb assumptions ass face

First off, I was not one of the friends. The friend who did tap on texted me the situation and asked me if I knew what they could do. After searching it up, I was unable to come up with an answer so I asked reddit. The friend was trying to tap off but the driver was yelling at her so much to leave that she did not end up tapping off.

we werent being assholes at all... we genuinly needed this bus to get home and had to walk back in the dark because this was one of the last busses coming today... (im the friend that tapped on btw)

The potential result of a child being kicked off of a bus is being kidnapped, are you saying because a child without a fully developed brain made a bad choice and was an arsehole they should be kidnapped? It’s a bit of a stretch, but thinking like that is not applicable to the real life situation they were facing. In any case they were not being arseholes.

Well, looks like they were wrong eh!! Tell them to talk to the driver next time instead of trying to hide it.

After is the key word here. In other words, if the driver hadn't said anything he would have happily fare evaded. When you're in a hole, don't dig.

You keep doubling down on this, and now you've resorted to teenage behaviour, all caps is yelling so you've already lost the argument, and "THEY TOTALLY WOULD" is third grade Grammer

The no child left behind stuff you are resting your defence on is related to Queensland only

It's a policy not a law

Your "friend" attempted to evade a fare, that is broke the law.

Your friend could have "tapped" on the way off the bus, the driver had no ability to stop this occuring.

You, or your friends, are entirely in the wrong. It's their fault, yours too if you are involved. Grow up, move on, stop being an entitled loser

https://www.busways.com.au/nsw/travel-info/ticketing-opal#:~:text=Tickets%20can%20be%20paid%20for,is%20best%20for%20your%20journey.

Hmmmmmmmmmm

You think a public service can’t be paid for in cash? Grow up dick head.

Tell your cheapskate mate that they lost the metro roulette.

Why wouldn't they swear at some random adult stopping them from getting what they want lol