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Why on earth would you bother with a $1 phone holder? Seems like that phone holder now cost you a shitload more. Buy a proper one from JB, they cost like $30 or some crap.
You’re fucked
Looks pretty cut n dry, that's a phone in your hand
LOL what a bullshit excuse lol.
It sounds as though you know that you've got a dangerous phone holder that might result in an accident. You really should get it replaced.
OP… Live up to your Nick name, get back on your board you smart cookie. Pay attention to your surroundings… there just may be a muppet driving near you who is distracted by their mobile when it falls out of a cheap $1 cradle. It will be fine when they pick it up and mount the kerb and mow you down on your skateboard. Let me guess… you don’t wear a stack hat coz it makes your ears itchy? Good luck in your life with the choices you make. Heard of natural selection ?
A friend had a similar photo, mobile phone resting on lap. $1000 fine, did not appeal, paid up. WARNING, PUT YOUR PHONE IN A BAG OR CLOVE BIX.
Lesson learned, should spend more than $1 on a phone holder, because a decent phone holder is cheaper than a fine. Picking your phone up from wherever it fell to, you could have killed someone. If you need to touch your phone *for any reason at all*, pull over and deal with it, don't do it while driving.
There is a 0% chance you will win an appeal here.
Brutal isn’t it? I wouldn’t recommend getting caught on one of those during double demerits.
I was done having phone face up on passenger seat. Wasn't looking at it but was in a position where I could've. They're ruthless in all states. Sorry but you haven't got a hope in hell.
thats on you, mr/mrs magoo
Same happened to me. First time I was being a fuckeit going 50kms on a quiet country road at night, staring straight at the screen. Second time I was literally relocating the phone.
Nothing to be done, just cop it and behave yourself
That looks like a hairbrush to me
I concur with my learned colleague. And with same clarity and brevity. You are so fucked it isn’t funny.
On the bright side…from midnight tonight it will cost you ten points off your licence. So that was a bonus.
And with a prior camera offence of using phone whilst driving, you’re ultra fucked.
Pay the fine, curse the government, move on and don’t do it again.
I mean if your phone is secured in a phone holder, you can still legally touch it.
Just don't hold your phone
thought so
$1 $30 holder hey
They're all pretty shit. I'm yet to find one that actually holds up properly.
everyone here acting so high and mighty, as if they’ve never picked up their phone to put it somewhere while driving
Wait so if it fell off into your lap like OP states, you can still get done?
But it’s still illegal for it to sit on your lap, so if it fell onto your lap and you went past a camera before pulling over that’s pretty bs
Mmm clove bix, a delicious treat
GLOVE BOX. SHOULD BE CALLED ,JUNK BIN.
that’s an easy appeal, I hope you didn’t actually pay the fine
Unless you were p plater you should have appealed that.
Not sure you can even touch it...
My Xgrip does not move at all, we go 4wd often and it will not budge! That being said, it's screwed and super glued on, I think people need to consider more permanent phone holders!
I haven't, and many i see haven't either when i am spectating.
thank you for your support 🥲 I definitely do not support using a phone while driving and I’m glad Aus has these cameras to help keep roads safe
yes
Why would you not get done for that. It's clearly dangerous to be fishing around for a phone that's fallen off a dodgy phone holder.
Drivers with a full licence
There are only 2 ways you can use a mobile phone while driving:
1. Hands-free – you can only use your phone hands-free (without touching it) to:
make or receive voice calls
play audio, for example, music and podcasts.
2. **In a phone holder – you can only use and touch your phone to:**
**make or receive voice calls**
**play audio, for example, music and podcasts**
**use as a driver’s aid, for example, maps and navigation apps or dispatch systems.**
**Phone holders must be commercially manufactured and fixed to your vehicle and must not obscure your vision.**
In this age, I reckon that car manufactures need to have built in ones, similar to the ones available to cater for different phone sizes but more permanent.
Stop spectating and pay attention to the road.
Lame
What
It's dangerous to have a dodgy phone holder and to subsequently be fishing around for phones that fall off it.
I didn’t say anything about “fishing around for phones”
I think so too. But I find it a bit unbalanced that this is 5 points when running a red (and many other things) is only 3.
The OP said they had a dodgy phone holder resulting in the phone dropping, and then needing to fetch it (i.e. fishing around for a phone that's dropped from a holder).
You asked whether you can still "get done" in these circumstances.
I explained that yes, you can, and that it's clearly a dangerous situation.
I'm not sure what you don't understand about this conversation.
Happened around 9 pm, I (male mid-20s) was driving home through Bondi in a residential area, alone in the car. As I was approaching a roundabout I saw that the car stopped halfway turning right, with an indicator on, almost blocking my way, there was still some space for me to go through, but according to the rules I had to give way, so I stopped waiting for the driver to finish its strange maneuver, and a couple of seconds after my car came to a full stop some young man tried to open my left back door and after failed attempt (my doors close automatically after the car reaches certain speed) car that stopped on a roundabout just drove by finishing its turn.
So I can see only two scenarios here
1. It was "a trap" and someone actually tried to get into my car
2. I'm being paranoid, and it was just a sequence of strange events, the driver who was blocking the roundabout was just an idiot, and the guy who tried to open my door was thinking that I was his Uber or something.
I'm happy to believe in the second scenario, but if there is the slightest chance that it could've been the first scenario, just wanted to warn people and remind everyone to close doors when you get in the car, unfortunately not all cars have that feature.
You're not being paranoid, you're being prudent. I always central lock all my doors in areas like that. It only takes a moment to hijack you.
I always drive with my doors locked. Day and night. I’ve had random people try to get into my car when I was 19 (I’m female) late at night at speed bumps. I live on the other side of the blue mountains from you so not in Sydney or a city! That was 100% a trap. Stay safe!
Might want to give r/sydney a shout while you're at it.
Make sure to report to cops too if you've not already.
Thank you for sharing your story, and good on you for being alert in the moment. Thankfully I haven't been faced with a situation like this - which for all facts considered here, you would call this an attempted car jacking.
I was blessed to be one of those patient dads who accompanied their kids through their L's hours. Now on on her P's and living in a busy city, I certainly had some advice for our now 22 year old when she was on her L's regarding securing the car when she was in a carpark and/or at night, putting shopping in the car, and being alert in situations like the one you described here. Locking doors if your car doesn't have the self-locking feature is NOT being paranoid.
Last year i accidently tried to get into my neighbours car when they stopped in front of me on the street. the [urgent] Uber was the car behind (i was tracking it). I felt like a real dumbass and probably scared them. We werent on good terms prior, so it probably didnt go down well.
Anyway, my point was maybe it was a simple mistake, maybe it was some shit attempt to get in your car (which is pointless these days as most cars auto lock). Glad you're ok
I’ve long weighed up the pros & cons of driving with doors locked to prevent robbery vs unlocked to assist strangers in dragging me out of a car wreck, lol.
My car is shitty & old and doesn’t have any auto lock/unlock functions.
My current car doesn’t even have central locking so I’ve settled for driving the car unlocked with my handbag handles looped around my seatbelt.
Will do, thanks
Hey guys, my friends and I were supposed to road trip north of Queensland but that idea went out the window recently. We still wanted to try camping at a beach if possible and we were wondering if anyone can tell us some great beaches to drive to in NSW. If the weather is also the same then we would love to hear if there’s any spots inland worth driving to. We’ve been to the blue mountains before and was incredible but that’s it. Thanks to anyone that can provide help or advice.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, we are gonna start driving from Brisbane and we are willing to go up to 16 hours away by car.
Hey, p plater, vic licence here. Can I drive at the posted speed, or is my cap 90. Have done some reading and seen that the 90 is a license restriction, which would put me in the clear. Just wanted to make sure, thanks.
well what speed does your license allow you to drive at?
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/new-to-victoria/crossing-state-borders
NSW red Ps is 90 as well, greens are 100. So in either VIC or NSW, you’d be doing the same either way.
Moving in the next fortnight back home to Sydney from WA. I've been completing my log book in WA but am unsure whether the hours will be eligible to transfer over to NSW. I understand in NSW we have to do 70 more hours than in WA and I'm not exactly keen on having to restart if I can't transfer them over.
Was wondering if anyone has any experience navigating this?
The website is not very clear: [https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/driver-and-rider-licences/visiting-or-moving-to-nsw/moving-your-interstate-or-nz-licence/interstate-drivers-and-riders](https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/driver-and-rider-licences/visiting-or-moving-to-nsw/moving-your-interstate-or-nz-licence/interstate-drivers-and-riders)
Suggest you call them or visit a Service NSW centre to "discuss your situation" (their words).
The accrued hours should count as long as you have a record of them, but you will need to resit your L's tetst for NSW
They require you to redo the learners, as they can't be transferred across states. I'm not sure on the hours so I can't comment on that but you might be old enough to just go for the license upgrade straight to P1.
I just finished year 12 and I'm not really sure what degree to apply for or what uni I should pick. In year 12 I did Maths Adv., Physics, Chemisty, and Biology. I enjoyed all of them a lot and my hsc marks for all of them are very similar but I would prefer to go into some sort of chem or bio related degree.
I've currently received early offers from UTS for molecular biotechnology and USYD for a science degree (and some others I'm not interested in) and my atar is high enough to apply for biomedical engineering at UTS. I've been mostly looking at the two degrees at UTS. My mum has been pushing me towards biomedical engineering because "it sounds better" and she also seems really impressed with USYD.
Couple questions:
1. Is it worth applying for a bachelor of science at usyd just because its usyd.
2. Would you suggest any other degrees?
3. How future-safe are the degrees and which one should I pick?
4. Is there anything else should I know?
Honestly, just take a year or two off to figure out what you wanna do, longer if you want. There’s absolutely no rush in going to uni especially when you don’t know what you wanna study.
This is coming from someone with 3 uni degrees by the way.
You have to think about what you like doing. Engineering (generally) can be rewarding if you like technology building things (getting physical stuff built) and generally tinkering. If you go into one of the electrical/electronic branches it is math heavy during the degree. If you like working with and helping people biomed could be good. Also a good engineering degree can be a ticket to see the world with someone else paying.
Personally, after having a 7 year gap year, I would not recommend it. Too many people have a gap year that extends for life of regretting not getting a degree.
Biomedical engineering will probably open up more career options for you once completed. I'd lean towards that one if it were me.