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Yeah it's just interesting because Russia has pretty clearly stated their goal is to wipe the Ukrainian nation from the earth
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Yeah it's just interesting because Russia has pretty clearly stated their goal is to wipe the Ukrainian nation from the earth
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2024-13-06
Russia is unironically doing the Nazi Playbook. Danzig or war lmao. Yet they are saying they are coming to Denazify Ukraine.
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Russia is unironically doing the Nazi Playbook. Danzig or war lmao. Yet they are saying they are coming to Denazify Ukraine.
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2024-13-06
shell and exxon were going to do just that when russia invaded back in 2014 putting a halt to it. it was clearly one of the reasons they invaded. the only reason? certainly not, but it was a pressing and important issue back then. edit: https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/article/21962486/shell-ends-talks-with-ukraine-on-black-sea-gas
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shell and exxon were going to do just that when russia invaded back in 2014 putting a halt to it. it was clearly one of the reasons they invaded. the only reason? certainly not, but it was a pressing and important issue back then. edit: https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/article/21962486/shell-ends-talks-with-ukraine-on-black-sea-gas
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2024-13-06
Lol, sure kid. You get points for effort I guess. Enjoy having bad takes and calling people stupid when you can't understand why you're wrong.
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Lol, sure kid. You get points for effort I guess. Enjoy having bad takes and calling people stupid when you can't understand why you're wrong.
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2024-13-06
I thought Russia's Main goal was Gay Rape with the sheer amount of man on man rape they are doing.
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I thought Russia's Main goal was Gay Rape with the sheer amount of man on man rape they are doing.
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2024-13-06
What do the other 40% believe?!?!
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What do the other 40% believe?!?!
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2024-13-06
60% of Ukrainians believe this and yet Ukraine is having such manpower issues? You’d think out of those 60% at least 10% of the men would scurry to join the war effort? Yet so many have fled and many more Ukrainians are dodging the draft anyway they can.
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60% of Ukrainians believe this and yet Ukraine is having such manpower issues? You’d think out of those 60% at least 10% of the men would scurry to join the war effort? Yet so many have fled and many more Ukrainians are dodging the draft anyway they can.
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2024-13-06
That's why I mentioned NATO would have to fall apart before they're vulnerable, but Russia is actively working on making this happening and many important NATO members are on the verge of electing anti-NATO leaders. It's not that far fetched.
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That's why I mentioned NATO would have to fall apart before they're vulnerable, but Russia is actively working on making this happening and many important NATO members are on the verge of electing anti-NATO leaders. It's not that far fetched.
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2024-13-06
“If this is genocide why wouldn’t they turn <country> to glass” /s I have a feeling there are people who consider this conflict a genocide, but not the one in Palestine. Including Joe Brandon
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“If this is genocide why wouldn’t they turn <country> to glass” /s I have a feeling there are people who consider this conflict a genocide, but not the one in Palestine. Including Joe Brandon
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2024-13-06
Did the other 40% die in this genocide and destruction?
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Did the other 40% die in this genocide and destruction?
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2024-13-06
They want to protect their precious Crimea and Black Sea, warm water port, that isn't even theirs, so to justify it they have to go through all this reprehensible evil shit to cover for it. Everything in Russia is to cover up for previous bad shit they've done. Its like an escalator straight down to damnation.
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They want to protect their precious Crimea and Black Sea, warm water port, that isn't even theirs, so to justify it they have to go through all this reprehensible evil shit to cover for it. Everything in Russia is to cover up for previous bad shit they've done. Its like an escalator straight down to damnation.
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2024-13-06
These kids could walk back to ukraine if they wanted!/j
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These kids could walk back to ukraine if they wanted!/j
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2024-13-06
You're an imperialist. This was a losing battle from the getgo. Cheers pal
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You're an imperialist. This was a losing battle from the getgo. Cheers pal
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2024-13-06
I would like to see a group of students protesting against the ukrainian genocide. Regretfully, Ukrainians are white.
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I would like to see a group of students protesting against the ukrainian genocide. Regretfully, Ukrainians are white.
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2024-13-06
The Kurds were only betrayed once and that was by Trump, a Russian asset. Afghanistan and Iraq were never US allies. The rest of the countries you mentioned didn't get invaded by foreign powers.
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The Kurds were only betrayed once and that was by Trump, a Russian asset. Afghanistan and Iraq were never US allies. The rest of the countries you mentioned didn't get invaded by foreign powers.
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2024-13-06
In b4 the major nato powers decide to ignore it 
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In b4 the major nato powers decide to ignore it 
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2024-13-06
I wish more people would understand that genocide is not necessarily a Holocaust-like massacre where some crazy leader wants to kill an entire race from the face of the world, one person at a time. Any attempt to erase a culture, totally or partially, and regardless of the method use (murder, cultural assimilation, deportations, reeducation, etc) constitutes genocide. Russia is forcing Ukrainians out of Eastern Ukraine (many of them being deported and scattered all throughout Russia, so they don't survive as communities), replacing it with ethnic Russians, and forcing the ones who remain there to adopt Russian language and culture. That is genocide - that is erasing Ukranian culture from a region that was traditionally co-inhabited by Ukrainians and Russians (most of which were pro-Ukrainian Russians, btw, don't buy the narrative that every Russian outside Russia roots for Putin and the Russian empire because it's not even close to true).
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I wish more people would understand that genocide is not necessarily a Holocaust-like massacre where some crazy leader wants to kill an entire race from the face of the world, one person at a time. Any attempt to erase a culture, totally or partially, and regardless of the method use (murder, cultural assimilation, deportations, reeducation, etc) constitutes genocide. Russia is forcing Ukrainians out of Eastern Ukraine (many of them being deported and scattered all throughout Russia, so they don't survive as communities), replacing it with ethnic Russians, and forcing the ones who remain there to adopt Russian language and culture. That is genocide - that is erasing Ukranian culture from a region that was traditionally co-inhabited by Ukrainians and Russians (most of which were pro-Ukrainian Russians, btw, don't buy the narrative that every Russian outside Russia roots for Putin and the Russian empire because it's not even close to true).
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2024-13-06
The main goal for both sides it to get them precious minerals at the cost of human life
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The main goal for both sides it to get them precious minerals at the cost of human life
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2024-13-06
The only thing Slovakia and Hungary can do is stop Slovakia and Hungary from helping - and honestly, NATO is not relying on these two countries for their military might.
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The only thing Slovakia and Hungary can do is stop Slovakia and Hungary from helping - and honestly, NATO is not relying on these two countries for their military might.
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2024-13-06
Also, the US funded a bunch of far right militants in riots (Svoboda, Azov, and other groups) to overthrow Victor Yanukovich in 2014. They succeeded, and the western media used the whole Euromaidan thing (being pro EU) as a way to attempt to hide the fact that many of the rioters were Nazis. Then after taking power, the far right (mainly Azov Batallion but also other groups) were incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard and began shelling ethnic Russians and Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas, which then prompted the people of Donbas to rise up and fight the far right and the Ukrainian gov, leading up to the present. But you didn't care about the Ukranians while it was Ukraine bombing them and burning them alive because they were Russian speaking, you only care now, and only now is it genocide, correct? You're basically a Nazi
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Also, the US funded a bunch of far right militants in riots (Svoboda, Azov, and other groups) to overthrow Victor Yanukovich in 2014. They succeeded, and the western media used the whole Euromaidan thing (being pro EU) as a way to attempt to hide the fact that many of the rioters were Nazis. Then after taking power, the far right (mainly Azov Batallion but also other groups) were incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard and began shelling ethnic Russians and Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas, which then prompted the people of Donbas to rise up and fight the far right and the Ukrainian gov, leading up to the present. But you didn't care about the Ukranians while it was Ukraine bombing them and burning them alive because they were Russian speaking, you only care now, and only now is it genocide, correct? You're basically a Nazi
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2024-13-06
Wow. Look at you. Justifying a genocide with another arguably worse genocide. A genocide is a genocide, no matter how you slice it. It's like saying whats happening in Gaza is not a genocide because the Nazis did it worse. It's really disgusting of you to defend genocide like that. You make me sick. 🤢🤮
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Wow. Look at you. Justifying a genocide with another arguably worse genocide. A genocide is a genocide, no matter how you slice it. It's like saying whats happening in Gaza is not a genocide because the Nazis did it worse. It's really disgusting of you to defend genocide like that. You make me sick. 🤢🤮
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2024-13-06
The West responds slow because Ukraine is not part of NATO and most people are not willing to get involved in wars that don't concern them. An attack on a NATO country would be nothing like it - either NATO would respond immediately and with resolute force, or would not respond at all (and that would instantly end NATO's soft power, greatly impact American soft power all throughout the world, severely damage American-European relationships and, depending on why that lack of response happened, fracture Europe altogether). I really, REALLY don't see how NATO failing to comply with article 5 could occur - literally all important members of the alliance would have their reputation, soft power and military power greatly damaged from it.
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The West responds slow because Ukraine is not part of NATO and most people are not willing to get involved in wars that don't concern them. An attack on a NATO country would be nothing like it - either NATO would respond immediately and with resolute force, or would not respond at all (and that would instantly end NATO's soft power, greatly impact American soft power all throughout the world, severely damage American-European relationships and, depending on why that lack of response happened, fracture Europe altogether). I really, REALLY don't see how NATO failing to comply with article 5 could occur - literally all important members of the alliance would have their reputation, soft power and military power greatly damaged from it.
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2024-13-06
Like I responded in another comment, did you have the same stance when Ukraine was trying to wipe out minorities in Donbas? Probably not, because if you're a westerner, you're probably a mix of the holy three - an imperialist, a racist and a Nazi.
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Like I responded in another comment, did you have the same stance when Ukraine was trying to wipe out minorities in Donbas? Probably not, because if you're a westerner, you're probably a mix of the holy three - an imperialist, a racist and a Nazi.
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2024-13-06
> That wouldn't trigger Article 5. What happened in Donetsk and Luhansk would trigger article 5 immediately lol. And, if it didn't because NATO decided to play dumb, some members would definitely send troops if invited to "pacify the region at the host country's request", which "is not a problem because no foreign country is involved in this".
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> That wouldn't trigger Article 5. What happened in Donetsk and Luhansk would trigger article 5 immediately lol. And, if it didn't because NATO decided to play dumb, some members would definitely send troops if invited to "pacify the region at the host country's request", which "is not a problem because no foreign country is involved in this".
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2024-13-06
You've just proven how unreliable the US actually is. Enough people voted for the Russian puppet that he became our representative to the world, so his betrayals are also the US's betrayals. Our allyships are up for renewal every 4 years. The Kurds were also betrayed by the US during OIF, not just under Trump. And the previous ANA government was an ally of the US. As for Latin America, we put genocidal dictators like Pinochet in charge of Chile. We funded and armed the takeover of Guatemala for Chiquita, who just got fined for using death squads on Guatemalans. We armed the Nicaraguan Contrast who went on mass murdering purges. These are the people we said are under our protection, per the Monroe Doctrine.
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You've just proven how unreliable the US actually is. Enough people voted for the Russian puppet that he became our representative to the world, so his betrayals are also the US's betrayals. Our allyships are up for renewal every 4 years. The Kurds were also betrayed by the US during OIF, not just under Trump. And the previous ANA government was an ally of the US. As for Latin America, we put genocidal dictators like Pinochet in charge of Chile. We funded and armed the takeover of Guatemala for Chiquita, who just got fined for using death squads on Guatemalans. We armed the Nicaraguan Contrast who went on mass murdering purges. These are the people we said are under our protection, per the Monroe Doctrine.
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2024-13-06
Theory I read China depends on Western wheat to feed its pop They want to take Tiawan so they can control the microchip market and the AI future (also why Biden is bringing production to the US) If they take Tiawan the west sanctions China and stops supplying food, the pop starves, which is usually fatal for leadership The need grain from Ukraine to do it, and made a deal with Russia to support them in the war, Russia gets Ukraines oil and China get their agricultural output. Also why the free world is supporting Ukraine while they looked the other way when he took Georgia
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Theory I read China depends on Western wheat to feed its pop They want to take Tiawan so they can control the microchip market and the AI future (also why Biden is bringing production to the US) If they take Tiawan the west sanctions China and stops supplying food, the pop starves, which is usually fatal for leadership The need grain from Ukraine to do it, and made a deal with Russia to support them in the war, Russia gets Ukraines oil and China get their agricultural output. Also why the free world is supporting Ukraine while they looked the other way when he took Georgia
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2024-13-06
Only 60%?
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Only 60%?
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2024-13-06
> claiming that Russia is just taking care of the poor children and keeping them safe because Ukraine put them in harm's way This does seem to be a centerpiece to all their propaganda. It's always everyone else with the agency to make changes, but never Russia.
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> claiming that Russia is just taking care of the poor children and keeping them safe because Ukraine put them in harm's way This does seem to be a centerpiece to all their propaganda. It's always everyone else with the agency to make changes, but never Russia.
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2024-13-06
This is a good point. It's very strange how many center-left people in the US are adamant this is the case for Russia but cannot see that the same logic extends to one of Russia's closest allies: Israel. After the US, Russia is Israel's closest ally.
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This is a good point. It's very strange how many center-left people in the US are adamant this is the case for Russia but cannot see that the same logic extends to one of Russia's closest allies: Israel. After the US, Russia is Israel's closest ally.
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2024-13-06
Except if you read some international geopolitics report it is evident that what you just said makes no sense. Their objectives has never been Kharkiv or Kiev.
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Except if you read some international geopolitics report it is evident that what you just said makes no sense. Their objectives has never been Kharkiv or Kiev.
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2024-13-06
The term genocide has lost all meaning.
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The term genocide has lost all meaning.
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2024-13-06
Oh which reports are you basing your judgment on?
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Oh which reports are you basing your judgment on?
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2024-13-06
That doesn't make any sense. Russia is in fact Israel's greatest enemy. Russia and the USSR have armed and funded all of Israel's enemies for decades, and provided them with diplomatic cover at the UN. Russia is the source of enormous quantities of anti-Israel propaganda and antisemitism. Russia is responsible for creating the PLO and training its leaders, Arafat and Abbas, who studied in Moscow and joined the KGB before being sent on their mission to create the PLO terrorist organization, which is responsible for many terrorist attacks that killed civilians.
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That doesn't make any sense. Russia is in fact Israel's greatest enemy. Russia and the USSR have armed and funded all of Israel's enemies for decades, and provided them with diplomatic cover at the UN. Russia is the source of enormous quantities of anti-Israel propaganda and antisemitism. Russia is responsible for creating the PLO and training its leaders, Arafat and Abbas, who studied in Moscow and joined the KGB before being sent on their mission to create the PLO terrorist organization, which is responsible for many terrorist attacks that killed civilians.
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2024-13-06
Wait, it's not to hunt down Nazis?
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Wait, it's not to hunt down Nazis?
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2024-14-06
What do the rest 40% believe ????
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What do the rest 40% believe ????
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2024-14-06
I’m going to go out and guess that around 40% of the population of Ukraine hasn’t been directly affected either by the front line itself or Russian terror bombing of major and minor cities. Around how accurate am I?
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I’m going to go out and guess that around 40% of the population of Ukraine hasn’t been directly affected either by the front line itself or Russian terror bombing of major and minor cities. Around how accurate am I?
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2024-14-06
That may depend on the next US election. Article 5 is a little vague on the level of assistance that needs to be given. This is the relevant text, emphasis mine: >The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, **such action as it deems necessary,** including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. So, if for instance, a tax evading whoremonger who has previously avowed not to honour Article 5 wins, he could potentially deem only thought and prayers necessary.
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That may depend on the next US election. Article 5 is a little vague on the level of assistance that needs to be given. This is the relevant text, emphasis mine: >The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, **such action as it deems necessary,** including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. So, if for instance, a tax evading whoremonger who has previously avowed not to honour Article 5 wins, he could potentially deem only thought and prayers necessary.
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2024-14-06
Come on man, I'm not saying Russia is better but the US destroyed democracy in my country a 100 years ago, installed a family of dictators that lasted until the late 70s and then funded the Contras starting a war that killed thousands. That helped to fuel the fire of hatred this country has for the US, now allied with Russia and China. How it couldn't turn into a shithole with such a history of interference? Can you really blame them when the alternative has proven to be way worse? Your interventions in Latin America, in fact, made everything worse.
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Come on man, I'm not saying Russia is better but the US destroyed democracy in my country a 100 years ago, installed a family of dictators that lasted until the late 70s and then funded the Contras starting a war that killed thousands. That helped to fuel the fire of hatred this country has for the US, now allied with Russia and China. How it couldn't turn into a shithole with such a history of interference? Can you really blame them when the alternative has proven to be way worse? Your interventions in Latin America, in fact, made everything worse.
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2024-14-06
They are also in the EU which is an even stronger commitment than article 5.
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They are also in the EU which is an even stronger commitment than article 5.
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2024-14-06
Then Europe is fucked worse than the planet and we're all in for some *interesting* decades.
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Then Europe is fucked worse than the planet and we're all in for some *interesting* decades.
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2024-14-06
That would be a pro not only for Putin but also for the Republicans that voted "yes" on the bill to stop NATO funding.
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That would be a pro not only for Putin but also for the Republicans that voted "yes" on the bill to stop NATO funding.
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2024-14-06
If you look at the record, you will see the US had a lot more successes than failures in its effort to spread democracy. Most US allies happen to be very stable democracies. Democracy started emerging in the 80's in Latin America after the USSR collapsed and its malevolent influence was no longer destabilizing those countries. Democracy emerged in eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR as well.
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If you look at the record, you will see the US had a lot more successes than failures in its effort to spread democracy. Most US allies happen to be very stable democracies. Democracy started emerging in the 80's in Latin America after the USSR collapsed and its malevolent influence was no longer destabilizing those countries. Democracy emerged in eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR as well.
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2024-14-06
Unfortunate for countries that they somewhat rely on russians and can't deport them all trading their national security for a little bit of economic stability. Yes I do hear myself. I apply that to every single migrant from enemy country, yes.
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Unfortunate for countries that they somewhat rely on russians and can't deport them all trading their national security for a little bit of economic stability. Yes I do hear myself. I apply that to every single migrant from enemy country, yes.
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2024-14-06
Russia is putting out job adverts all over the world advertising security jobs, promising no front line action only for the applicants to find out they're literally cannon fodder.
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Russia is putting out job adverts all over the world advertising security jobs, promising no front line action only for the applicants to find out they're literally cannon fodder.
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2024-14-06
It's just as self-deluding to think it's doing terrible when you have access to so many amenities that other nations would die for. I don't get your logic at all. It's almost like you're saying the same thing as me, "Look at the bigger picture", but I'm saying appreciate what we have, and you're stating, "But look what we don't have!" Neither of these views are mutually exclusive. You can appreciate what we have, and still push for better. I'm not denying that at all.
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It's just as self-deluding to think it's doing terrible when you have access to so many amenities that other nations would die for. I don't get your logic at all. It's almost like you're saying the same thing as me, "Look at the bigger picture", but I'm saying appreciate what we have, and you're stating, "But look what we don't have!" Neither of these views are mutually exclusive. You can appreciate what we have, and still push for better. I'm not denying that at all.
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2024-14-06
Even a war Europe is guaranteed to win will fuck up the continent for decades... That's why Ukraine needs to be supported now so Russia can be contained before it comes after NATO or the EU. If you think it's really an overstatement, go learn more about the damage caused by the world wars...
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Even a war Europe is guaranteed to win will fuck up the continent for decades... That's why Ukraine needs to be supported now so Russia can be contained before it comes after NATO or the EU. If you think it's really an overstatement, go learn more about the damage caused by the world wars...
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2024-14-06
Barring nukes, then no, not really. The countries where the fighting happen would be fucked up, but Russia would quickly lose the ability to meaningfully strike past the border countries. The world wars are not a good comparison, the situation is completely different. Obviously, we should support Ukraine as much as they need, and more than we currently are. Even from a purely cynical perspective, having Ukraine stop Russia's ambition is just *extremely* cost effective from the perspective of everyone else.
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Barring nukes, then no, not really. The countries where the fighting happen would be fucked up, but Russia would quickly lose the ability to meaningfully strike past the border countries. The world wars are not a good comparison, the situation is completely different. Obviously, we should support Ukraine as much as they need, and more than we currently are. Even from a purely cynical perspective, having Ukraine stop Russia's ambition is just *extremely* cost effective from the perspective of everyone else.
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2024-14-06
Also - travel outside the country. There are a couple lists out there ranking countries - go /look higher or lower than our position on the list. It’s eye opening. Here are two Standard of living https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country Quality of life https://www.currencytransfer.com/blog/expert-analysis/10-countries-with-the-highest-standard-of-living
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Also - travel outside the country. There are a couple lists out there ranking countries - go /look higher or lower than our position on the list. It’s eye opening. Here are two Standard of living https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country Quality of life https://www.currencytransfer.com/blog/expert-analysis/10-countries-with-the-highest-standard-of-living
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2024-15-06
Why is that?
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Why is that?
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2024-15-06
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2024-13-06
F*ck each other in the booty hole
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F*ck each other in the booty hole
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2024-13-06
Japanese denazification of Russia 2024
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Japanese denazification of Russia 2024
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2024-13-06
No one is doubting their right, just laughing that Russia has sunk so low as to actually need NK. The USSR would never have needed them, just used them.
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No one is doubting their right, just laughing that Russia has sunk so low as to actually need NK. The USSR would never have needed them, just used them.
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2024-14-06
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2024-13-06
That's where I'm at.
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That's where I'm at.
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2024-13-06
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2024-13-06
It's okay not to pick a side in this conflict. Palestinians deserve a state But both sides suck. You root for one side you root for murder of another group of people. Besides you think Palestinian state will be happy and peaceful? They just gonna suppress women, murder LGBT and be another shitty Islamic Theocracy.
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It's okay not to pick a side in this conflict. Palestinians deserve a state But both sides suck. You root for one side you root for murder of another group of people. Besides you think Palestinian state will be happy and peaceful? They just gonna suppress women, murder LGBT and be another shitty Islamic Theocracy.
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2024-13-06
If that is the case they still should suffer the consequences? I don't see why not
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If that is the case they still should suffer the consequences? I don't see why not
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2024-13-06
How have they been pummeled?
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How have they been pummeled?
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2024-13-06
"We have no choice but to deny this minority group rights because they are mad we are depriving them of their rights" logic common to both Israel and conservatives in the Jim Crow South
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"We have no choice but to deny this minority group rights because they are mad we are depriving them of their rights" logic common to both Israel and conservatives in the Jim Crow South
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2024-13-06
Maybe Israel shouldn't have installed and funded Hamas then
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Maybe Israel shouldn't have installed and funded Hamas then
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2024-13-06
Rallying around the flag is normal during wartime. Take a look at G.W. Bush's approval ratings in the wake of 9/11 vs before.
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Rallying around the flag is normal during wartime. Take a look at G.W. Bush's approval ratings in the wake of 9/11 vs before.
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2024-13-06
So they will be the same as Israel
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So they will be the same as Israel
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2024-13-06
They got their sea access revoked because they kept using it to bring in rockets to shoot at civilians
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They got their sea access revoked because they kept using it to bring in rockets to shoot at civilians
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2024-13-06
Who voted them in? The Israelis or the Palestinians?
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Who voted them in? The Israelis or the Palestinians?
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2024-13-06
how are they a minority group? they're in a different country
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how are they a minority group? they're in a different country
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2024-13-06
> Palestinians deserve a state Why? I see no evidence it will be a peaceful state that coexists with its neighbors.  Likely a failed state that's a hotbed of militant activity. 
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> Palestinians deserve a state Why? I see no evidence it will be a peaceful state that coexists with its neighbors.  Likely a failed state that's a hotbed of militant activity. 
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2024-13-06
They are under Israeli military dictatorship lmfao
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They are under Israeli military dictatorship lmfao
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2024-13-06
That’s kinda the problem here. Both sides are justified in hating the other. But this leaves them in a stalemate where peace is impossible because of the very real horrors each side has visited on the other. An infinite loop of endless war.
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That’s kinda the problem here. Both sides are justified in hating the other. But this leaves them in a stalemate where peace is impossible because of the very real horrors each side has visited on the other. An infinite loop of endless war.
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2024-13-06
That’s not reality though, it’s delusion. Plain and simple.
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That’s not reality though, it’s delusion. Plain and simple.
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2024-13-06
LOL okay tell that to the gay people from surrounding MENA countries taking refuge in Israel!
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LOL okay tell that to the gay people from surrounding MENA countries taking refuge in Israel!
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2024-13-06
Palestinians launch approximately no terrorism against anyone in Lebanon.  Either they aren't hating oppression consistently or launching terrorist attacks is more complicated than just hatred.  I'd in fact argue a combination of the two.  Indeed, strong evidence they haven't been pummeled to oblivion - look at Chechnia or Sri Lankan Tamils as examples of groups that were - the result was the end of terrorism, not more of it. 
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Palestinians launch approximately no terrorism against anyone in Lebanon.  Either they aren't hating oppression consistently or launching terrorist attacks is more complicated than just hatred.  I'd in fact argue a combination of the two.  Indeed, strong evidence they haven't been pummeled to oblivion - look at Chechnia or Sri Lankan Tamils as examples of groups that were - the result was the end of terrorism, not more of it. 
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2024-13-06
Yup. You always see phrasing like Hamas attacked Israel, and now Israel is attacking Gaza. There’s a deliberate attempt at separating Gaza and Hamas that isn’t warranted. You don’t see media outlets say the Likud party is attacking Gaza, they use Israel. Being fair, we should be saying Gaza/Palestine attacked Israel. After all every person in Hamas is a Gaza Palestinian. Somehow, all of Gaza has been absolved of its complicity of the crimes committed by Hamas. Hamas and Gaza Palestinians are effectively coterminous
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Yup. You always see phrasing like Hamas attacked Israel, and now Israel is attacking Gaza. There’s a deliberate attempt at separating Gaza and Hamas that isn’t warranted. You don’t see media outlets say the Likud party is attacking Gaza, they use Israel. Being fair, we should be saying Gaza/Palestine attacked Israel. After all every person in Hamas is a Gaza Palestinian. Somehow, all of Gaza has been absolved of its complicity of the crimes committed by Hamas. Hamas and Gaza Palestinians are effectively coterminous
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2024-13-06
If the black communities leadership during Jim Crow explicitly was calling for the destruction of the USA, the murder of all whites, and was open to using rape and murder as a political tactic how do you think things might be different in our country today?
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If the black communities leadership during Jim Crow explicitly was calling for the destruction of the USA, the murder of all whites, and was open to using rape and murder as a political tactic how do you think things might be different in our country today?
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2024-13-06
Famous Islamic theocracy, Israel.
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Famous Islamic theocracy, Israel.
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2024-13-06
Illegal Israeli settlements were destroyed by force, and in response, Israel collectively punished 100% of gazans
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Illegal Israeli settlements were destroyed by force, and in response, Israel collectively punished 100% of gazans
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2024-13-06
So weird how Egypt and Lebanon don't take in the Palestinians hey?
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So weird how Egypt and Lebanon don't take in the Palestinians hey?
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2024-13-06
No Israel is a Jewish theocracy
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No Israel is a Jewish theocracy
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2024-13-06
Do they think they are winning the war? Or are they just interested in not losing without inflicting damage on their enemies?
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Do they think they are winning the war? Or are they just interested in not losing without inflicting damage on their enemies?
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2024-13-06
They dont even care. They let Hamas use their kids as human shields because they know it makes Israel look bad.
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They dont even care. They let Hamas use their kids as human shields because they know it makes Israel look bad.
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2024-13-06
Israel doesn't suppress womens rights, has gay pride, and is far from a theocracy.
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Israel doesn't suppress womens rights, has gay pride, and is far from a theocracy.
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2024-13-06
They are under Hamas control. HAMAS attacked Isreal with the obvious support of the Arabs ("Palestinians") they rule. Isreal is defending itself.
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They are under Hamas control. HAMAS attacked Isreal with the obvious support of the Arabs ("Palestinians") they rule. Isreal is defending itself.
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2024-13-06
Which is why they support their armed forces hiding among civilians causing children to be blown up? Square that circle for me.
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Which is why they support their armed forces hiding among civilians causing children to be blown up? Square that circle for me.
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2024-13-06
Hey champ, how do you think Apartheid in Sputh Africa was ended? By peaceful protest? Nope
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Hey champ, how do you think Apartheid in Sputh Africa was ended? By peaceful protest? Nope
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2024-13-06
945 lbs of precision-delivered tritonal does tend to broaden and elevate minds. Just, y’know, briefly. 
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945 lbs of precision-delivered tritonal does tend to broaden and elevate minds. Just, y’know, briefly. 
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2024-13-06
You’re asking them to think critically and use rational thought. They only know emotions and what they’re being spoon fed by Tik Tok and Instagram.
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You’re asking them to think critically and use rational thought. They only know emotions and what they’re being spoon fed by Tik Tok and Instagram.
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2024-13-06
They have to live somewhere though.
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They have to live somewhere though.
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2024-13-06
Gay people don't have equal rights in Israel either, so idk what your point is
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Gay people don't have equal rights in Israel either, so idk what your point is
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2024-13-06
They can get as violent as they want, just don't go crying for help when you attack then and they attack back.
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They can get as violent as they want, just don't go crying for help when you attack then and they attack back.
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2024-13-06
It is the reality, champ. 100% of violence stemming from Occupation is the fault of the Occupiers
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It is the reality, champ. 100% of violence stemming from Occupation is the fault of the Occupiers
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2024-13-06
What an absolute false equivalency. You are entirely ignoring the existence of those identifying as palestinian citizens of Israel that were also victims of Oct 7th. I can't beleive you're actually trying to compare Israel to the Jim Crow south when the Palestinians of Gaza are the ones who tend to be conservative religious fundamentalists that tend to cover their faces with bed linens like the KKK. Also quit talking about denying a group rights when you can't even be openly Jewish in Gaza without getting killed, the double standard you operate on is so obvious.
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What an absolute false equivalency. You are entirely ignoring the existence of those identifying as palestinian citizens of Israel that were also victims of Oct 7th. I can't beleive you're actually trying to compare Israel to the Jim Crow south when the Palestinians of Gaza are the ones who tend to be conservative religious fundamentalists that tend to cover their faces with bed linens like the KKK. Also quit talking about denying a group rights when you can't even be openly Jewish in Gaza without getting killed, the double standard you operate on is so obvious.
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2024-13-06
The "Palestinians" you refer to are Arabs. There are numerous Arab states.
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The "Palestinians" you refer to are Arabs. There are numerous Arab states.
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2024-13-06
Israel oppresses women, murders queer people, and it is an Islamic theocracy? You don't even pretend to make sense anymore.
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Israel oppresses women, murders queer people, and it is an Islamic theocracy? You don't even pretend to make sense anymore.
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2024-13-06
You see this, this is why reddit discourse is dead. Using the term "Jim Crow" is incendiary, inaccurate and unhelpful in a discussion, so why is it used? Its emotionally evocative to a certain audience.  Because the goal is performative, its never to really answer the person you talk too but the "audience ".
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You see this, this is why reddit discourse is dead. Using the term "Jim Crow" is incendiary, inaccurate and unhelpful in a discussion, so why is it used? Its emotionally evocative to a certain audience.  Because the goal is performative, its never to really answer the person you talk too but the "audience ".
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2024-13-06
With the Palestinians having nothing to bargain with, being in a state of complete inferiority militarily, they ought to redefine what their goals are for statehood. They need to compromise more than Israel, but they refuse, hence a stalemate. At least the PLO managed to establish some semblance of West Bank sovereignty with two areas of the West Bank being under PA rule, but their corruption still keeps the West Bank struggling and under terroristic sentiment. This prevents them from gaining more sovereignty, if they refuse to demilitarize their ideology Israel will keep using that as a justification for what appears as radical defense in the face of such a militarily weak but ideologically strong force
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With the Palestinians having nothing to bargain with, being in a state of complete inferiority militarily, they ought to redefine what their goals are for statehood. They need to compromise more than Israel, but they refuse, hence a stalemate. At least the PLO managed to establish some semblance of West Bank sovereignty with two areas of the West Bank being under PA rule, but their corruption still keeps the West Bank struggling and under terroristic sentiment. This prevents them from gaining more sovereignty, if they refuse to demilitarize their ideology Israel will keep using that as a justification for what appears as radical defense in the face of such a militarily weak but ideologically strong force
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2024-13-06
I suggest you actually idk get a history book and crack it open rather than blindly parroting what you see on social media. You’re being brainwashed
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I suggest you actually idk get a history book and crack it open rather than blindly parroting what you see on social media. You’re being brainwashed
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2024-13-06
And it's not nearly as suprresive to woman and LGBT.
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And it's not nearly as suprresive to woman and LGBT.
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2024-13-06
Maybe Israel shouldn't have spent the 90s killing all the Gazan leftist political leaders and replacing them with religious extremists then And hey champ, Israel is as religiously extreme as Gaza is. And yes, Israel is in many ways functionally the same as the Jim Crow South
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Maybe Israel shouldn't have spent the 90s killing all the Gazan leftist political leaders and replacing them with religious extremists then And hey champ, Israel is as religiously extreme as Gaza is. And yes, Israel is in many ways functionally the same as the Jim Crow South
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2024-13-06
Someone else can govern them
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Someone else can govern them
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2024-13-06
Black communities were never given multiple opportunities to self govern.
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Black communities were never given multiple opportunities to self govern.
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2024-13-06