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My grandfather was NVA, and my father and uncles fought Khmer Rogues and they have no problem with Americans. My grandpa loved to talk to my mother about buying Ford trucks and bringing American chocolate home. Myself I was US military for 6 years, all of my family was proud of that. For warriors like my grandpa, fighting is normal amongst men and should never get into the way of the new generation. Only cowards dwell on grudges. Look at the Afghan mujahideens, they say that they were bored now that they don't have Americans to fight anymore.
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My grandfather was NVA, and my father and uncles fought Khmer Rogues and they have no problem with Americans. My grandpa loved to talk to my mother about buying Ford trucks and bringing American chocolate home. Myself I was US military for 6 years, all of my family was proud of that. For warriors like my grandpa, fighting is normal amongst men and should never get into the way of the new generation. Only cowards dwell on grudges. Look at the Afghan mujahideens, they say that they were bored now that they don't have Americans to fight anymore.
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2024-14-06
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I would think they’d want to expand trade and economic ties, rather than defense ties. It’s clearly been shown that our economic relationship with China has had greater influence than our military influence. It’s been shown across the World that economic sanctions have a greater negative impact than military posturing.
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I would think they’d want to expand trade and economic ties, rather than defense ties. It’s clearly been shown that our economic relationship with China has had greater influence than our military influence. It’s been shown across the World that economic sanctions have a greater negative impact than military posturing.
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2024-14-06
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All this article basically says is that Vietnam’s president wants to get help from the US. There’s no comitment from USA.
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All this article basically says is that Vietnam’s president wants to get help from the US. There’s no comitment from USA.
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2024-14-06
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Russia are visiting them this week.
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Russia are visiting them this week.
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2024-14-06
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There's a whole generation that doesn't know how we got here.
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There's a whole generation that doesn't know how we got here.
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2024-14-06
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for sure, but the US has lots of debt already and there're so many war fronts. How long can they hold on until they fold? everyone wants them to be their security, lol.
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for sure, but the US has lots of debt already and there're so many war fronts. How long can they hold on until they fold? everyone wants them to be their security, lol.
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2024-14-06
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How chi Minh petitioned the US to let them remain independant after helping drive out the Japanese during WW2 with the help of OSS. He quoted Thomas Jefferson and the declaration of Independence as reasons why the US should protect them from French recolonisation. Truman ignored these pleas and wanted all the post-war political matters handled as fast as possible (including leaving the republic of China to fend for itself against the communists) and allowed France to reclaim indochina as a colony.
Even after declaring themselves a communist power to gain aid from Soviet union, HCM was still open to relations with the US until his death.
Modern day Vietnam is far removed from the communist power that had the worst economy in the world just 30 years ago and today has embraced capitalism and trade, so with improved relations, ho chi minhs dream of American cooperation may finally be coming true.
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How chi Minh petitioned the US to let them remain independant after helping drive out the Japanese during WW2 with the help of OSS. He quoted Thomas Jefferson and the declaration of Independence as reasons why the US should protect them from French recolonisation. Truman ignored these pleas and wanted all the post-war political matters handled as fast as possible (including leaving the republic of China to fend for itself against the communists) and allowed France to reclaim indochina as a colony.
Even after declaring themselves a communist power to gain aid from Soviet union, HCM was still open to relations with the US until his death.
Modern day Vietnam is far removed from the communist power that had the worst economy in the world just 30 years ago and today has embraced capitalism and trade, so with improved relations, ho chi minhs dream of American cooperation may finally be coming true.
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2024-14-06
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Bruh the Vietnamese are tough as fucking nails. Trust you do not want to invade them for whoever wants to try in the future. You're gonna have a Really bad time.
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Bruh the Vietnamese are tough as fucking nails. Trust you do not want to invade them for whoever wants to try in the future. You're gonna have a Really bad time.
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2024-14-06
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Are they saying the same thing? I think you know that these are two very different thinkers.
How do you think they’d each finish this sentence? “America provoked China and therefore America should-“
I’d imagine Mearsheimer’s response would be less hostile to American power projection than Chomsky’s, if similarly opposed to how it occurs now.
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Are they saying the same thing? I think you know that these are two very different thinkers.
How do you think they’d each finish this sentence? “America provoked China and therefore America should-“
I’d imagine Mearsheimer’s response would be less hostile to American power projection than Chomsky’s, if similarly opposed to how it occurs now.
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2024-14-06
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That's more a question of numbers. In the case of the Vietnam War the US had them outnumbered too. The loss was purely political. If the US had actually fought all out Vietnam wouldn't have lasted a week.
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That's more a question of numbers. In the case of the Vietnam War the US had them outnumbered too. The loss was purely political. If the US had actually fought all out Vietnam wouldn't have lasted a week.
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2024-15-06
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> The loss was purely political.
"War is the continuation of politics by other means."
- Karl Von Clausewitz
War and politics are inseparable.
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> The loss was purely political.
"War is the continuation of politics by other means."
- Karl Von Clausewitz
War and politics are inseparable.
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2024-15-06
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Not to be pedantic, but the Soviet Union was part of the Allies too.
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Not to be pedantic, but the Soviet Union was part of the Allies too.
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2024-15-06
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Even in that case it wasn't Vietnam that won, it was the protesters.
And mote broadly Capitalism has utterly defeated Communism. Vietnam might nominally be Communist, but check the tags on all your clothes and other household items and you'll see they're working for US corporations now and you'll find plenty of McDonald's and other US brands all over the country.
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Even in that case it wasn't Vietnam that won, it was the protesters.
And mote broadly Capitalism has utterly defeated Communism. Vietnam might nominally be Communist, but check the tags on all your clothes and other household items and you'll see they're working for US corporations now and you'll find plenty of McDonald's and other US brands all over the country.
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2024-15-06
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Is this Trump posting? The rambling nature suggest so.
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Is this Trump posting? The rambling nature suggest so.
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2024-15-06
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Vietnam vs. Afghanistan. Who wins?
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Vietnam vs. Afghanistan. Who wins?
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2024-15-06
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This is the correct take. Vietnam manages to survive, but that's like its only option.
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This is the correct take. Vietnam manages to survive, but that's like its only option.
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2024-15-06
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Sadly in matters of freedom of thought and expression and human rights, the country is just as bad as China.
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Sadly in matters of freedom of thought and expression and human rights, the country is just as bad as China.
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2024-15-06
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Who’s invading who though?
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Who’s invading who though?
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2024-15-06
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And people forget that China just unilaterally moved the border of Vietnam and stealing part of Vietnam. This is very sore point with the Vietnamese people and one of the reasons that anything Chinese related is detested in Vietnam.
The Chinese also recently change the baseline map line that runs through the Gulf of Tonkin claiming extensive areas of the Vietnamese exclusive economic zone. The arrogance and disrespect China has for all countries and International law is palpable So currently in Vietnam China is public enemy No1. All Chinas own fault and doing! I am not surprised that the Vietnam is turning to the USA for better leverage.
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And people forget that China just unilaterally moved the border of Vietnam and stealing part of Vietnam. This is very sore point with the Vietnamese people and one of the reasons that anything Chinese related is detested in Vietnam.
The Chinese also recently change the baseline map line that runs through the Gulf of Tonkin claiming extensive areas of the Vietnamese exclusive economic zone. The arrogance and disrespect China has for all countries and International law is palpable So currently in Vietnam China is public enemy No1. All Chinas own fault and doing! I am not surprised that the Vietnam is turning to the USA for better leverage.
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2024-15-06
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And its widely accepted the Ho Chi Minh was not Vietnamese but a Chinese General. I have not seen credible English Language evidence that supports this claim.
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And its widely accepted the Ho Chi Minh was not Vietnamese but a Chinese General. I have not seen credible English Language evidence that supports this claim.
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2024-15-06
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Saratoga, Yorktown, Trenton, Cowpens, Ticonderoga, Lexington, concord, Bunker Hill, Boston, etc.
Quite a few actually
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Saratoga, Yorktown, Trenton, Cowpens, Ticonderoga, Lexington, concord, Bunker Hill, Boston, etc.
Quite a few actually
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2024-15-06
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They're both trying to take over Nepal at the same time.
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They're both trying to take over Nepal at the same time.
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2024-15-06
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don't think China intended to grab any land. They went in simply to mess up Vietnam's ongoing invasion to Laos/Cambodia.
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don't think China intended to grab any land. They went in simply to mess up Vietnam's ongoing invasion to Laos/Cambodia.
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2024-15-06
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Don’t poke the Pooh Bear
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Don’t poke the Pooh Bear
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2024-15-06
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And France. Definitely it's own graveyard of empires
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And France. Definitely it's own graveyard of empires
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2024-15-06
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>How many big battles did the US win vs. Britain in the Revolutionary War?
Is this a serious question? A lot. The American Patriots lit up British Empire forces across the map.
The storming of Fort William and Mary and the Powder Alarm in 1774. The battles of Lexington and Concord, capturing Fort Ticonderoga, the siege of Boston, the battle of Chelsea Creek, the battle of Machias, the capture of the Turtle Bay depot, the battle of Gloucester, the raid on the Manhattan Battery, the siege of Fort St. Jean, the battle of Great Bridge, the Snow Campaign, the battle of Great Cane Break, and the New York Armory raid in 1775. And the battle of Moore's Creek Bridge, the raid of Nassau, the battle of Saint-Pierre in Quebec, the battle of Sullivan's Island, the battle of Gwynn's Island, the battle of Lindley's Fort, the battle of Harlem Heights, the ambush of Geary, and the battle of Trenton in 1776. Then in 1777 the second battle of Trenton, the battle of Princeton, the battle of Millstone, the siege of Fort Stanwix, the battle of Bemis Heights, the battle of Red Bank, and the battle of White Marsh. In 1778 the siege of Boonesborough, the battle of Edgar's Lane, the raids on Unadilla and Onaquaga, and the battle of Kettle Creek. In 1779 the siege of Fort Vincennes, the battle of Chillicothe, the battle of Stony Point, the battle Paulus Hook, the battle of Newtown, the battle of Lake Pontchartrain, and the battle of Baton Rouge.
There's more. Do you want me to list them?
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>How many big battles did the US win vs. Britain in the Revolutionary War?
Is this a serious question? A lot. The American Patriots lit up British Empire forces across the map.
The storming of Fort William and Mary and the Powder Alarm in 1774. The battles of Lexington and Concord, capturing Fort Ticonderoga, the siege of Boston, the battle of Chelsea Creek, the battle of Machias, the capture of the Turtle Bay depot, the battle of Gloucester, the raid on the Manhattan Battery, the siege of Fort St. Jean, the battle of Great Bridge, the Snow Campaign, the battle of Great Cane Break, and the New York Armory raid in 1775. And the battle of Moore's Creek Bridge, the raid of Nassau, the battle of Saint-Pierre in Quebec, the battle of Sullivan's Island, the battle of Gwynn's Island, the battle of Lindley's Fort, the battle of Harlem Heights, the ambush of Geary, and the battle of Trenton in 1776. Then in 1777 the second battle of Trenton, the battle of Princeton, the battle of Millstone, the siege of Fort Stanwix, the battle of Bemis Heights, the battle of Red Bank, and the battle of White Marsh. In 1778 the siege of Boonesborough, the battle of Edgar's Lane, the raids on Unadilla and Onaquaga, and the battle of Kettle Creek. In 1779 the siege of Fort Vincennes, the battle of Chillicothe, the battle of Stony Point, the battle Paulus Hook, the battle of Newtown, the battle of Lake Pontchartrain, and the battle of Baton Rouge.
There's more. Do you want me to list them?
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2024-15-06
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> And people forget that China just unilaterally moved the border of Vietnam and stealing part of Vietnam
That seems to be a reoccurring theme with nations that boarder China.
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> And people forget that China just unilaterally moved the border of Vietnam and stealing part of Vietnam
That seems to be a reoccurring theme with nations that boarder China.
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2024-15-06
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Good, the Vietnamese are excellent warriors, they will add great strength to our defense strategy in the pacific. They fought against the Chinese before and if I recall correctly, watching the Fog of War about sec of defense McNamara, they are not fans of the Chinese and they more or less kicked their asses before.
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Good, the Vietnamese are excellent warriors, they will add great strength to our defense strategy in the pacific. They fought against the Chinese before and if I recall correctly, watching the Fog of War about sec of defense McNamara, they are not fans of the Chinese and they more or less kicked their asses before.
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2024-15-06
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I think you misunderstood China's invasion of Vietnam and might be glorifying Vietnam too much. The Chinese invasion of Vietnam was not about territorial gains but to counter the USSR and Vietnam's ambitions to dominate Southeast Asia.
After the Vietnam-US war, Vietnam had the strongest military in Southeast Asia, and the US had left non-communist countries in the region to defend themselves. Vietnam then invaded Cambodia, causing concern in Thailand and Singapore, which led them to clandestinely support the Khmer Rouge. There were reasonable fears that after Cambodia, Vietnam might target Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore next. Ho Chi Minh's ministers had vocally expressed intentions to spread communism across Southeast Asia.
China, worried about being encircled by the USSR, decided to "teach Vietnam a lesson" by invading, aiming to show that the USSR would not commit militarily to help Vietnam. The PLA pulled back their army after Vietnam started withdrawing their elite forces from Cambodia to counter the Chinese invasion.
To this day, many Southeast Asian leaders from that era feel grateful to Deng Xiaoping. You can read about this in most Southeast Asian leaders' biographies.
Side note: China informed the US before the invasion and the US gave their approval.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese\_War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War)
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I think you misunderstood China's invasion of Vietnam and might be glorifying Vietnam too much. The Chinese invasion of Vietnam was not about territorial gains but to counter the USSR and Vietnam's ambitions to dominate Southeast Asia.
After the Vietnam-US war, Vietnam had the strongest military in Southeast Asia, and the US had left non-communist countries in the region to defend themselves. Vietnam then invaded Cambodia, causing concern in Thailand and Singapore, which led them to clandestinely support the Khmer Rouge. There were reasonable fears that after Cambodia, Vietnam might target Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore next. Ho Chi Minh's ministers had vocally expressed intentions to spread communism across Southeast Asia.
China, worried about being encircled by the USSR, decided to "teach Vietnam a lesson" by invading, aiming to show that the USSR would not commit militarily to help Vietnam. The PLA pulled back their army after Vietnam started withdrawing their elite forces from Cambodia to counter the Chinese invasion.
To this day, many Southeast Asian leaders from that era feel grateful to Deng Xiaoping. You can read about this in most Southeast Asian leaders' biographies.
Side note: China informed the US before the invasion and the US gave their approval.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese\_War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War)
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2024-15-06
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Basically, the US quit the match while way, way ahead in K/D and Objectives, as no cities were conquered by the North while the US was there - but the US got sick of the cost of the "PTW against Zerg forces" game and logged off, leaving it to the South Vietnamese to finish it and they only were able to go a few more rounds before collapsing and getting roflstomped.
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Basically, the US quit the match while way, way ahead in K/D and Objectives, as no cities were conquered by the North while the US was there - but the US got sick of the cost of the "PTW against Zerg forces" game and logged off, leaving it to the South Vietnamese to finish it and they only were able to go a few more rounds before collapsing and getting roflstomped.
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2024-15-06
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Seeing the current Vietnamese cabinet that decide most reform and law, as a Vietnamese, it worrying really because most are from Ministries of Domestic affairs and Military which isn’t great. And with scandal with a banking firm a few months ago. Thing ain’t great but i will hold my decision later on
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Seeing the current Vietnamese cabinet that decide most reform and law, as a Vietnamese, it worrying really because most are from Ministries of Domestic affairs and Military which isn’t great. And with scandal with a banking firm a few months ago. Thing ain’t great but i will hold my decision later on
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2024-15-06
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You evacuated tens of thousands but left millions behind. Millions who wanted to go to but cant. You are not in any position to consider what is and is not abandonment. As the victims, only we can decide that, and the large number of south vietnamese decided that you indeed abandoned everyone behind. The US is an unreliable ally to us now.
I dont doubt that china is an authoritarian state who treat their citizens like expendable numbers. But as a Vietnamese educated in our communist politics and theirs, and considering historical reasons, unlike the black and white view of reddit, I do believe they will leave us alone as long as we have a government that is friendly to them.
The moment we declare an alliance with the US is the moment they make plans for an invasion.
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You evacuated tens of thousands but left millions behind. Millions who wanted to go to but cant. You are not in any position to consider what is and is not abandonment. As the victims, only we can decide that, and the large number of south vietnamese decided that you indeed abandoned everyone behind. The US is an unreliable ally to us now.
I dont doubt that china is an authoritarian state who treat their citizens like expendable numbers. But as a Vietnamese educated in our communist politics and theirs, and considering historical reasons, unlike the black and white view of reddit, I do believe they will leave us alone as long as we have a government that is friendly to them.
The moment we declare an alliance with the US is the moment they make plans for an invasion.
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2024-15-06
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There seems to be a power struggle going on right now with the new president, and then general secretary is getting really old and will probably retire within a few years, so people are fighting to become his successor.
This is bad because as the new people take charge, they feel like their grip on the population is loosened and will seek to tighten it. I expect to see more authoritarianism in the next 5 years
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There seems to be a power struggle going on right now with the new president, and then general secretary is getting really old and will probably retire within a few years, so people are fighting to become his successor.
This is bad because as the new people take charge, they feel like their grip on the population is loosened and will seek to tighten it. I expect to see more authoritarianism in the next 5 years
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2024-15-06
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Hopefully we get another Doi Moi like movement latter on. Back then it broke off the comicon system of economic, hopefully in the future there a change for a more change in politics and free of expression. At least i hope so, just one of almost 100 million people here after all
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Hopefully we get another Doi Moi like movement latter on. Back then it broke off the comicon system of economic, hopefully in the future there a change for a more change in politics and free of expression. At least i hope so, just one of almost 100 million people here after all
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2024-15-06
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Total war id imagine, the way war was fought for like 99.99% of human history.
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Total war id imagine, the way war was fought for like 99.99% of human history.
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2024-15-06
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Britain tried. They decided "Damn, we should hire them instead, those are some mean motherfuckers"
It's been over 200 years, and they still employ Gurkhas.
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Britain tried. They decided "Damn, we should hire them instead, those are some mean motherfuckers"
It's been over 200 years, and they still employ Gurkhas.
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2024-15-06
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They invaded Cambodia and stayed there for 10 years after the war, correct take my ass
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They invaded Cambodia and stayed there for 10 years after the war, correct take my ass
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2024-15-06
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> but can't do anything about it as they won't want to start a two front knife fight with one of their oldest beefs
China can do a lot about it. For starter, not only the economy of Vietnam especially border region heavily rely on China but also Vietnam's water for irrigation aka river depend on China side. When China is closed down because of Covid, Vietnam still request (read ask China) to continue trading.
> and Vietnam will ally with the US, Australia, Korea, and Japan
nice fanfiction
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> but can't do anything about it as they won't want to start a two front knife fight with one of their oldest beefs
China can do a lot about it. For starter, not only the economy of Vietnam especially border region heavily rely on China but also Vietnam's water for irrigation aka river depend on China side. When China is closed down because of Covid, Vietnam still request (read ask China) to continue trading.
> and Vietnam will ally with the US, Australia, Korea, and Japan
nice fanfiction
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2024-15-06
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Vietnamese people fought to protect their country, families and to have a better life. If there is a war, they will fight until their last soldiers. Based on that matter, it is quite clear that who will win.
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Vietnamese people fought to protect their country, families and to have a better life. If there is a war, they will fight until their last soldiers. Based on that matter, it is quite clear that who will win.
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2024-15-06
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So did the Afghans, against both the Soviets and the Americans.
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So did the Afghans, against both the Soviets and the Americans.
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2024-15-06
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I didn’t mean they were going to permanently hold onto any land. Just that Chinese barely got the front into Vietnamese territory before immediately being pushed back into a border skirmish.
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I didn’t mean they were going to permanently hold onto any land. Just that Chinese barely got the front into Vietnamese territory before immediately being pushed back into a border skirmish.
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2024-15-06
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From 1950 to 1954, the US was trying to help France colonize Vietnam. When France lost, the US stepped in and inherited the war against Vietnam.
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From 1950 to 1954, the US was trying to help France colonize Vietnam. When France lost, the US stepped in and inherited the war against Vietnam.
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2024-15-06
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Ummmm...Sir, this is a Wendy's.
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Ummmm...Sir, this is a Wendy's.
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How is this ugly fucker still alive!
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How is this ugly fucker still alive!
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2024-14-06
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Yeah, I agree. 300b + all sanctions remain in place is the most reasonable, and a return to pre-2014 borders. DMZ at the border region to boot. A full-on Treaty of Versailles would just repeat history and encourage someone worse than Putin would take power. As much as I'd love to see Putin and his plutocracy disappear, it's a devil-you-know type situation for sure.
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Yeah, I agree. 300b + all sanctions remain in place is the most reasonable, and a return to pre-2014 borders. DMZ at the border region to boot. A full-on Treaty of Versailles would just repeat history and encourage someone worse than Putin would take power. As much as I'd love to see Putin and his plutocracy disappear, it's a devil-you-know type situation for sure.
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2024-14-06
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Something tells me the people who wanted this to happen the most were russian. There goes another 500k neighbours!
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Something tells me the people who wanted this to happen the most were russian. There goes another 500k neighbours!
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2024-14-06
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All Putin has to do is pull what’s left of his shitty army out of Ukraine entirely. Leave them and everyone else alone and crawl into one of his houses and kick the bucket. The world will be far better off
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All Putin has to do is pull what’s left of his shitty army out of Ukraine entirely. Leave them and everyone else alone and crawl into one of his houses and kick the bucket. The world will be far better off
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2024-14-06
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Here's the thing we saw in the initial invasion: NATO tech from the end of the Cold War was more than a match for current Russian tech. Hell, the Cold War NATO tech we gave them we nerfed so it wouldn't be as powerful as it could be just to avoid Ukraine striking at targets in Russia. If the Ukrainian forces can eliminate enough of Russia's SAM capacity to put the new fighters into the battle space consistently it will be a major shift in Ukraine's favor in the war. I haven't seen any accurate reporting on what Russia's remaining SAM capacity is.
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Here's the thing we saw in the initial invasion: NATO tech from the end of the Cold War was more than a match for current Russian tech. Hell, the Cold War NATO tech we gave them we nerfed so it wouldn't be as powerful as it could be just to avoid Ukraine striking at targets in Russia. If the Ukrainian forces can eliminate enough of Russia's SAM capacity to put the new fighters into the battle space consistently it will be a major shift in Ukraine's favor in the war. I haven't seen any accurate reporting on what Russia's remaining SAM capacity is.
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2024-14-06
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He’s one of the most powerful individuals in the world. He absolutely has access to the best healthcare medical science can offer.
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He’s one of the most powerful individuals in the world. He absolutely has access to the best healthcare medical science can offer.
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2024-14-06
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Or Ukraine could’ve not allowed America to set up facilities and line the borders of Russia/Ukraine with missiles aiming at Russia. This was a breach of the 1994 trilateral agreement between Russia, America, and Ukraine. Russia agreed to leave Ukraine alone only if America stayed out of Ukraine and didnt push eastward. America broke the agreement first not Russia
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Or Ukraine could’ve not allowed America to set up facilities and line the borders of Russia/Ukraine with missiles aiming at Russia. This was a breach of the 1994 trilateral agreement between Russia, America, and Ukraine. Russia agreed to leave Ukraine alone only if America stayed out of Ukraine and didnt push eastward. America broke the agreement first not Russia
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2024-14-06
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Shout out to Olaf. Send Taurus and make the Döner 4€ again.
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Shout out to Olaf. Send Taurus and make the Döner 4€ again.
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2024-14-06
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What are you even talking about?
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What are you even talking about?
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2024-14-06
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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/
Slightly different to the one I remembered, this link is about a deal brought to Putin by one of his aides.
I can't find any link specifically about western countries pre-invasion but I'm sure early in the war I remember hearing about diplomatic efforts before the invasion that touched on neutrality. If I find a link on that too I'll update this comment.
In addition, more details about the deal you're referring to were released fairly recently, a different proposal during the invasion, and it involved Ukraine's army being limited to 85,000 soldiers, 340 tanks, and limiting missile range to 40km, which would have made the rest of the country defenceless. I believe first reported by the wall street journal but since quoted elsewhere. THIS proposal is where that claim comes from about Ukraine being supposedly forced to reject a "peace deal".
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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/
Slightly different to the one I remembered, this link is about a deal brought to Putin by one of his aides.
I can't find any link specifically about western countries pre-invasion but I'm sure early in the war I remember hearing about diplomatic efforts before the invasion that touched on neutrality. If I find a link on that too I'll update this comment.
In addition, more details about the deal you're referring to were released fairly recently, a different proposal during the invasion, and it involved Ukraine's army being limited to 85,000 soldiers, 340 tanks, and limiting missile range to 40km, which would have made the rest of the country defenceless. I believe first reported by the wall street journal but since quoted elsewhere. THIS proposal is where that claim comes from about Ukraine being supposedly forced to reject a "peace deal".
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2024-14-06
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NATO already quite clearly stated that if nuclear weapons are used, they would respond with conventional munitions. So that way Russia could have a choice. Try to Nuke NATO and kick off world war 3 in full nuclear Technicolor. Or accept an ass whooping with conventional weapons to boot them out of Ukraine.
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NATO already quite clearly stated that if nuclear weapons are used, they would respond with conventional munitions. So that way Russia could have a choice. Try to Nuke NATO and kick off world war 3 in full nuclear Technicolor. Or accept an ass whooping with conventional weapons to boot them out of Ukraine.
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2024-14-06
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You're so right, it would be a major crisis when people all around the world get blackout drunk during all the partying.
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You're so right, it would be a major crisis when people all around the world get blackout drunk during all the partying.
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2024-14-06
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OR we can go like in his political satire tv series and Russia becomes part of Ukraine (IIRC)
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OR we can go like in his political satire tv series and Russia becomes part of Ukraine (IIRC)
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2024-14-06
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Russia isn't going to give up on the entirety of Ukraine. The terms they set out are unacceptable and Russia knows that . Nothing more then a publicity stunt. They want of Ukraine.
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Russia isn't going to give up on the entirety of Ukraine. The terms they set out are unacceptable and Russia knows that . Nothing more then a publicity stunt. They want of Ukraine.
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2024-14-06
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I approve of this. And then have all the western media run with stories about "WHY WON'T PUTIN BE REASONABLE?!?!"
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I approve of this. And then have all the western media run with stories about "WHY WON'T PUTIN BE REASONABLE?!?!"
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2024-14-06
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It's basically zero because Russia can be trusted /s
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It's basically zero because Russia can be trusted /s
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2024-14-06
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All the money in the world can’t save you from some medical issues. At his age it’s not that far fetched he could have a medical emergency, either natural or induced, that he can’t buy his way out of.
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All the money in the world can’t save you from some medical issues. At his age it’s not that far fetched he could have a medical emergency, either natural or induced, that he can’t buy his way out of.
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2024-14-06
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Hamas leadership have gone to Moscow before. Hamas is very close to Iran, which is tight with Russia. Not at all surprising to see them use the same playbook.
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Hamas leadership have gone to Moscow before. Hamas is very close to Iran, which is tight with Russia. Not at all surprising to see them use the same playbook.
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2024-14-06
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Doesn’t mean he’ll die then but if he’s older than the average person lives then I think it’s fair to call him old.
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Doesn’t mean he’ll die then but if he’s older than the average person lives then I think it’s fair to call him old.
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2024-14-06
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Modestly Angled Granny Asses
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Modestly Angled Granny Asses
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2024-15-06
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Finnish lands, Japanese islands just 2 that come to mind... Oh yes, Kaliningrad?
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Finnish lands, Japanese islands just 2 that come to mind... Oh yes, Kaliningrad?
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2024-15-06
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So we should just let Putin take it all,that is the strategy?
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So we should just let Putin take it all,that is the strategy?
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2024-15-06
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They won't change anything...
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They won't change anything...
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2024-15-06
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"Putin's total net worth to sit between $70 billion and $200 billion." - Guy can receive the treatment he wants wherever he wants, of course.
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"Putin's total net worth to sit between $70 billion and $200 billion." - Guy can receive the treatment he wants wherever he wants, of course.
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2024-15-06
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I hate the Ukrainian government so fucking much.
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I hate the Ukrainian government so fucking much.
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2024-15-06
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Just so Putin can say that oh we offered and it's them who doesn't accept. I have no choice but keep the war going.
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Just so Putin can say that oh we offered and it's them who doesn't accept. I have no choice but keep the war going.
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2024-15-06
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Toddler dictator throws fit when the rest of the world says "That's Ukraine's land, not yours.".
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Toddler dictator throws fit when the rest of the world says "That's Ukraine's land, not yours.".
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2024-15-06
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NATO encroached on Russia countless times
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NATO encroached on Russia countless times
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2024-15-06
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There is enough people willing to die for a greater cause to keep Ukraine going. The fact that you and I are not among them, doesn’t mean anything.
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There is enough people willing to die for a greater cause to keep Ukraine going. The fact that you and I are not among them, doesn’t mean anything.
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2024-15-06
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There was no Russian withdrawl promise as part of that supposed deal - Russia refused to discuss borders and territory at that stage, saying it would be discussed later. Russia held more of Ukraine then than they do now, including a crucial foothold over the Dnipro which is Ukraine's major natural barrier.
And the deal also involved Ukraine disbanding most of its army, limiting itself to 85,000 soldiers, 340 tanks, and missile range limited to 40km. While Russia gave up nothing. These limits would have left Ukraine totally defenceless and caused a total front collapse when Russia violated it to invade again just like they violated every previous agreeement with Ukraine.
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There was no Russian withdrawl promise as part of that supposed deal - Russia refused to discuss borders and territory at that stage, saying it would be discussed later. Russia held more of Ukraine then than they do now, including a crucial foothold over the Dnipro which is Ukraine's major natural barrier.
And the deal also involved Ukraine disbanding most of its army, limiting itself to 85,000 soldiers, 340 tanks, and missile range limited to 40km. While Russia gave up nothing. These limits would have left Ukraine totally defenceless and caused a total front collapse when Russia violated it to invade again just like they violated every previous agreeement with Ukraine.
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2024-15-06
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Because no one in that country wants to do what's required. Which is surprising, given their history. 4 months until a new Red October?
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Because no one in that country wants to do what's required. Which is surprising, given their history. 4 months until a new Red October?
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2024-15-06
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Putitler is worried about the Trillions he owes for his Genocidal land grab war in Ukraine.
Luckily, there is 300,000 km of Territory that Russia stole from China that could help pay that debt.
Russia just has to leave both the Ukrainian territory they invaded, and give back the territory to China, and China could help pay for Russia's blunder.
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Putitler is worried about the Trillions he owes for his Genocidal land grab war in Ukraine.
Luckily, there is 300,000 km of Territory that Russia stole from China that could help pay that debt.
Russia just has to leave both the Ukrainian territory they invaded, and give back the territory to China, and China could help pay for Russia's blunder.
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2024-15-06
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And yet some people either don't get the memo or deliberately ignoee it
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And yet some people either don't get the memo or deliberately ignoee it
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2024-15-06
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>Ukraines' new borders to incorporate Moskou and large swathes of European Russia
Or at least the 1918 borders, which included Katerinodar east of Crimea, as well as Rostov-on-Don.
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>Ukraines' new borders to incorporate Moskou and large swathes of European Russia
Or at least the 1918 borders, which included Katerinodar east of Crimea, as well as Rostov-on-Don.
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2024-15-06
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The USSR suffered about 9 million military casualties alone against Nazi Germany.
Are you willing to condemn Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill for all the carnage they wrought by opposing Senõr Hitler in WW2 as well? Should we remain solemn in the face of the Nazis who were "people risking it all" having been stopped as well?
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The USSR suffered about 9 million military casualties alone against Nazi Germany.
Are you willing to condemn Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill for all the carnage they wrought by opposing Senõr Hitler in WW2 as well? Should we remain solemn in the face of the Nazis who were "people risking it all" having been stopped as well?
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2024-15-06
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>they are an outdated fighter model
Which Russian plane outdates the Mirage? 🤔
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>they are an outdated fighter model
Which Russian plane outdates the Mirage? 🤔
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2024-15-06
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"Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please." - Niccolo Machiavelli.
Ironically, the above quote isn't even true in this case - Russia can always just retreat out of Ukraine's pre-2014 territory, and the war will end. But it's all on Russia. Nobody else has any power to end the war. These silly "peace deals" for Ukraine to surrender are a farce.
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"Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please." - Niccolo Machiavelli.
Ironically, the above quote isn't even true in this case - Russia can always just retreat out of Ukraine's pre-2014 territory, and the war will end. But it's all on Russia. Nobody else has any power to end the war. These silly "peace deals" for Ukraine to surrender are a farce.
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2024-15-06
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>Don’t think it’s anymore likely Ukraine achieves 1991 borders
It absolutely is. Russia **cannot** sustain the current pace of battle. If the West stops slumbering and wakes up and feeds Ukraine with enough materiel, they can.
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>Don’t think it’s anymore likely Ukraine achieves 1991 borders
It absolutely is. Russia **cannot** sustain the current pace of battle. If the West stops slumbering and wakes up and feeds Ukraine with enough materiel, they can.
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2024-15-06
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Nobody has the power to end the war?
Ummm the US?? Lol
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Nobody has the power to end the war?
Ummm the US?? Lol
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2024-15-06
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What has the US got to do with this conflict? All it does is send weapons and aid to Ukraine.
It's not like Biden can just invade Russia and force Putin to stop invading Ukraine at gunpoint. Ridiculous.
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What has the US got to do with this conflict? All it does is send weapons and aid to Ukraine.
It's not like Biden can just invade Russia and force Putin to stop invading Ukraine at gunpoint. Ridiculous.
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2024-15-06
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I think one of the biggest impacts is gonna be an increase in the use of simple glide bombs by the Ukranians, the Russians have been devastating with them and there’s no real counter when they’re fired from behind the line.
Just having more aircraft to use simple munitions is game changing.
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I think one of the biggest impacts is gonna be an increase in the use of simple glide bombs by the Ukranians, the Russians have been devastating with them and there’s no real counter when they’re fired from behind the line.
Just having more aircraft to use simple munitions is game changing.
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2024-15-06
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What does it have to do with the war?
Ukraine would have already been Russias new province if it wasn’t for the US
They would have falling a long ass time ago if the US wasn’t given them money, weapons, training and intel
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What does it have to do with the war?
Ukraine would have already been Russias new province if it wasn’t for the US
They would have falling a long ass time ago if the US wasn’t given them money, weapons, training and intel
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2024-15-06
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Great Britain, Germany and the US have not had as formidable an enemy as Ukraine has in Russia. Of course they are going to lose more tanks to them. Ukraine has been receiving training for the last year with the F-16's and when they arrive Russia will have to pull their forces back further away from the border. The F-16's will be maintained in Poland so don't you worry about that.
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Great Britain, Germany and the US have not had as formidable an enemy as Ukraine has in Russia. Of course they are going to lose more tanks to them. Ukraine has been receiving training for the last year with the F-16's and when they arrive Russia will have to pull their forces back further away from the border. The F-16's will be maintained in Poland so don't you worry about that.
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2024-15-06
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We shall see, but the corrupt American government loves forever wars they can keep making money off of. You think Biden signed a 10 year plan because it warms his heart or fills his pockets?
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We shall see, but the corrupt American government loves forever wars they can keep making money off of. You think Biden signed a 10 year plan because it warms his heart or fills his pockets?
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2024-15-06
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Im not talking about Ukraine, their wants are completely understandable and obvious. But if you think the US is in it for the betterment of humanity you have been living under a rock since Vietnam
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Im not talking about Ukraine, their wants are completely understandable and obvious. But if you think the US is in it for the betterment of humanity you have been living under a rock since Vietnam
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2024-15-06
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A sign on the border that says
"No invasions\*
\*or special military exercises"
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A sign on the border that says
"No invasions\*
\*or special military exercises"
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2024-15-06
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Fucking bad "article". Headline gives the same amount of info as the article.
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Fucking bad "article". Headline gives the same amount of info as the article.
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2024-14-06
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IDF Special forces rented an apartment and lived under cover in Gaza for 19 days, collecting intelligence about the hostages and the buildings they were held at. pretty crazy
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IDF Special forces rented an apartment and lived under cover in Gaza for 19 days, collecting intelligence about the hostages and the buildings they were held at. pretty crazy
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2024-14-06
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Was it worth the life of an U.S serviceman?
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Was it worth the life of an U.S serviceman?
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2024-14-06
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Kind of. The Army and Navy do this regularly, I participated in one of these JLOTS exercises at Fort Story at Virginia Beach. I suppose a big difference is they’re hampered by not being allowed to step foot into Gaza.
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Kind of. The Army and Navy do this regularly, I participated in one of these JLOTS exercises at Fort Story at Virginia Beach. I suppose a big difference is they’re hampered by not being allowed to step foot into Gaza.
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2024-14-06
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That's literally their job, though... Army Corps of Engineers and their international equivalents are responsible for building and deconstructing military bases, temporary bridges and other temporary constructions.
Practicing building a temporary dock is expensive on its own, practicing it across the ocean even moreso. They wouldn't get this type of experience training safely on or near their base. And the construction and maintenance was under hostile fire, so any faults in their training will come to the surface. It's basically a stress test.
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That's literally their job, though... Army Corps of Engineers and their international equivalents are responsible for building and deconstructing military bases, temporary bridges and other temporary constructions.
Practicing building a temporary dock is expensive on its own, practicing it across the ocean even moreso. They wouldn't get this type of experience training safely on or near their base. And the construction and maintenance was under hostile fire, so any faults in their training will come to the surface. It's basically a stress test.
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2024-14-06
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Rome!
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Rome!
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2024-14-06
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Hamas committed yet another war crime you mean.
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Hamas committed yet another war crime you mean.
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2024-14-06
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