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There's no such as a super majority in the UK parliament, that line is just desperate Tory party scare mongering. In a competent party having a parliamentary majority of 50 or 250 allows exactly the same bills to be passed with the same ease.
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There's no such as a super majority in the UK parliament, that line is just desperate Tory party scare mongering. In a competent party having a parliamentary majority of 50 or 250 allows exactly the same bills to be passed with the same ease.
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2024-15-06
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> Labour will accept that immigration is 'a thing you have to talk about' and that'll be the end of Reform.
No they fucking wont
Every European country is struggling with immigration and they still refuse to do anything because that's not what their donors want.
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> Labour will accept that immigration is 'a thing you have to talk about' and that'll be the end of Reform.
No they fucking wont
Every European country is struggling with immigration and they still refuse to do anything because that's not what their donors want.
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2024-15-06
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There comes a point at which even the blindest of people realise that the choice is 'discuss the issue' or 'lose the next election to _real_ nazis' and I think we're (perhaps twenty years too late) finally there.
Far-right parties taking over Europe would be _super bad_ for business.
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There comes a point at which even the blindest of people realise that the choice is 'discuss the issue' or 'lose the next election to _real_ nazis' and I think we're (perhaps twenty years too late) finally there.
Far-right parties taking over Europe would be _super bad_ for business.
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It’s the consolation prize to them doing a damn thing about all the domestic nazi groups.
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It’s the consolation prize to them doing a damn thing about all the domestic nazi groups.
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2024-15-06
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The Proud Boys organized January 6th?
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The Proud Boys organized January 6th?
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2024-15-06
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Yes, along with the Oathkeepers.
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/31/1196972258/proud-boys-sentence-jan-6-joseph-biggs
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Yes, along with the Oathkeepers.
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/31/1196972258/proud-boys-sentence-jan-6-joseph-biggs
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2024-15-06
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Not very coincidentally I might add. I live in Finland and yesterday in my hometown there was a mall stabbing in which a 12 year old boy with Finnish citizenship but of foreign descent was stabbed in the back several times by a member of this group who was a 33 year old man. He tried to stab the 12 year olds friend but he ran and was apprehended by the mall security.
A real fucking hero stabbing kids in the back. JFC.
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Not very coincidentally I might add. I live in Finland and yesterday in my hometown there was a mall stabbing in which a 12 year old boy with Finnish citizenship but of foreign descent was stabbed in the back several times by a member of this group who was a 33 year old man. He tried to stab the 12 year olds friend but he ran and was apprehended by the mall security.
A real fucking hero stabbing kids in the back. JFC.
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2024-15-06
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Not to mention yesterdays stabbing in Oulu by the same guy who stabbed earlier in Jyväskylä.
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Not to mention yesterdays stabbing in Oulu by the same guy who stabbed earlier in Jyväskylä.
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2024-15-06
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MAGA aren’t terrorists though. It’s only a good idea to designate people as terrorists if they’re terrorists.
If by “terrorist” you mean “person I have political disagreements with”, then that’s a very strange way to use that word, but I agree, I disagree with them too.
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MAGA aren’t terrorists though. It’s only a good idea to designate people as terrorists if they’re terrorists.
If by “terrorist” you mean “person I have political disagreements with”, then that’s a very strange way to use that word, but I agree, I disagree with them too.
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2024-15-06
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If I remember correctly 'domestic terrorism' is not a federal crime. Acts that domestic terrorists perform are but not 'domestic terrorism' so there is no official designation of 'domestic terrorists' like there is for foreign terrorism
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If I remember correctly 'domestic terrorism' is not a federal crime. Acts that domestic terrorists perform are but not 'domestic terrorism' so there is no official designation of 'domestic terrorists' like there is for foreign terrorism
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2024-15-06
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That's not what your article says. It says they were accused of participating in it.
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That's not what your article says. It says they were accused of participating in it.
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2024-15-06
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Right, because the US totally gave visas to people who were already known as terrorists…
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Right, because the US totally gave visas to people who were already known as terrorists…
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2024-15-06
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Proud boys should definitely be in that list...
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Proud boys should definitely be in that list...
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2024-15-06
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tHe WhItE dEaTh...
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tHe WhItE dEaTh...
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2024-15-06
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Same, we have a lot of domestic terrorist groups - proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters to name a few - that should’ve received that designation first.
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Same, we have a lot of domestic terrorist groups - proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters to name a few - that should’ve received that designation first.
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2024-15-06
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They’re not terrorists, they’re oppressed freedom fighters!
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They’re not terrorists, they’re oppressed freedom fighters!
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2024-15-06
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When your "political disagreement" is "this demographic group shouldn't exist, groomers! Groomers! *Blood libel! Blood libel! Slur, slur slur! Blood libel!*". Then yes, that's terrorism. Genocidal terrorism at that. People don't get to terrorize their fellow americans for being different and not be called what they are: terrorists. Especially after all the MAGAs celebrated mass shootings and violence against our communities. Especially after Project 2025 was published.
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When your "political disagreement" is "this demographic group shouldn't exist, groomers! Groomers! *Blood libel! Blood libel! Slur, slur slur! Blood libel!*". Then yes, that's terrorism. Genocidal terrorism at that. People don't get to terrorize their fellow americans for being different and not be called what they are: terrorists. Especially after all the MAGAs celebrated mass shootings and violence against our communities. Especially after Project 2025 was published.
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2024-15-06
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Only if antifa is on there aswell.
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Only if antifa is on there aswell.
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2024-15-06
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>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
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>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
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2024-15-06
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This. I was furious when I saw that news. What a fucking pathetic coward.
I hope he get’s fun jail time, my bet is that kid stabbers won’t get the warmest welcome from some of the fellow inmates.
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This. I was furious when I saw that news. What a fucking pathetic coward.
I hope he get’s fun jail time, my bet is that kid stabbers won’t get the warmest welcome from some of the fellow inmates.
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2024-15-06
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US State Department cannot define them as such because they're only concerned with foreign terrorism, legally.
>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
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US State Department cannot define them as such because they're only concerned with foreign terrorism, legally.
>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
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2024-15-06
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Not that particular list.
>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
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Not that particular list.
>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
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2024-15-06
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don't quote me but iirc no domestic groups can be labelled terrorist groups
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don't quote me but iirc no domestic groups can be labelled terrorist groups
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2024-15-06
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>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
For all the comments demanding that certifiably *domestic* terrorist organizations aren't on this list, they simply can't be on this one. The FBI handles them, not then State Department.
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>Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended:
1. It must be a **foreign** organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)), or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.
For all the comments demanding that certifiably *domestic* terrorist organizations aren't on this list, they simply can't be on this one. The FBI handles them, not then State Department.
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2024-15-06
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you can count to 25
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you can count to 25
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2024-15-06
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Time for Sweden to do the same..
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Time for Sweden to do the same..
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2024-15-06
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He stabbed a kid with foreign background, that’s not quite as bad for jailtime treatment
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He stabbed a kid with foreign background, that’s not quite as bad for jailtime treatment
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2024-15-06
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They were founded in Canada and they poise the government of the United States...
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They were founded in Canada and they poise the government of the United States...
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2024-15-06
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Something something - they tried to acquire something from someone the US is already keeping an eye on
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Something something - they tried to acquire something from someone the US is already keeping an eye on
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2024-15-06
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stabbing of a 12 year old child by 33 year old nazi, mind you
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stabbing of a 12 year old child by 33 year old nazi, mind you
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2024-15-06
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I'm pretty sure it has to do with allocation of resources and who is in charge of doing what. Semantics really
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I'm pretty sure it has to do with allocation of resources and who is in charge of doing what. Semantics really
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2024-15-06
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I don't think that is totally true. The CIA has labelled groups like the Aryan Nation and Army of God as "terrorist threat(s)" and the FBI has done the same for the Earth Liberation Front. Although, I don't know if that makes themofficially labeled as terrorist groups.
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I don't think that is totally true. The CIA has labelled groups like the Aryan Nation and Army of God as "terrorist threat(s)" and the FBI has done the same for the Earth Liberation Front. Although, I don't know if that makes themofficially labeled as terrorist groups.
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2024-15-06
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Can’t, this list requires the org to be foreign.
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Can’t, this list requires the org to be foreign.
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2024-15-06
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They cannot be designated. They can call them things, which they did, domestic terrorism and whatnot, but declaring them a terrorist organisation such that they are sanctioned and are wanted (this is what the designation means) cannot be applied to domestic groups.
For the state dept to designate an organisation a terrorist organisation, it must be a foreign org
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They cannot be designated. They can call them things, which they did, domestic terrorism and whatnot, but declaring them a terrorist organisation such that they are sanctioned and are wanted (this is what the designation means) cannot be applied to domestic groups.
For the state dept to designate an organisation a terrorist organisation, it must be a foreign org
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2024-15-06
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Where in Finland was that haven’t read anything about it yet?
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Where in Finland was that haven’t read anything about it yet?
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2024-15-06
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It's because one member, Sebastian Lämsä, tried to kill two black kids in Finland this week. He was also responsible for a previous assault with a knife during an attempt to disrupt the publishing of a book on far-right extremists in Finland, and an attack with a pepper spray.
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It's because one member, Sebastian Lämsä, tried to kill two black kids in Finland this week. He was also responsible for a previous assault with a knife during an attempt to disrupt the publishing of a book on far-right extremists in Finland, and an attack with a pepper spray.
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2024-15-06
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Better get rid of them ASAP, because when russia invades you, we won't help because they exist!
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Better get rid of them ASAP, because when russia invades you, we won't help because they exist!
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2024-15-06
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Shit, I’m often in Kajaani so this is spreading
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Shit, I’m often in Kajaani so this is spreading
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2024-15-06
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And yet the guy who did the Christchurch massacre [did a tour of radical eastern europe](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/christchurch-shooting-far-right-groups-in-ukraine-eastern-europe/10983542) before he did his despicable deed. Not everything is a conspiracy, sometimes things are exactly as they seem - by letting such groups flourish this is the inevitable outcome.
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And yet the guy who did the Christchurch massacre [did a tour of radical eastern europe](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-10/christchurch-shooting-far-right-groups-in-ukraine-eastern-europe/10983542) before he did his despicable deed. Not everything is a conspiracy, sometimes things are exactly as they seem - by letting such groups flourish this is the inevitable outcome.
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2024-15-06
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Oh Roger, what alliteration!
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Oh Roger, what alliteration!
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2024-15-06
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The USA should look internally… they have their own groups.
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The USA should look internally… they have their own groups.
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2024-15-06
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What I posted is not a conspiracy theory....
It's a fact that Russia actively supports these movements throughout the West. Hell they even shelter the Leaders of US groups so that they can continue stressing the ideology in the US while avoiding being prosecuted https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51236915
Use of far-right motorcycle group the Night Wolves to exert influence and for clandestine activity throughout the Balkans and Eastern Europe. They even participated in the seizing of Crimea and likely were used for reconnaissance prior to 2022 invasion.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20563051231177920
Even Wagner Group throughout its founding and up to today has strong ties to white supremacists groups and neo-nazis.
Russia can't beat NATO in a direct confrontation so they find and train groups like this to create internal strife and clandestine activities.
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What I posted is not a conspiracy theory....
It's a fact that Russia actively supports these movements throughout the West. Hell they even shelter the Leaders of US groups so that they can continue stressing the ideology in the US while avoiding being prosecuted https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51236915
Use of far-right motorcycle group the Night Wolves to exert influence and for clandestine activity throughout the Balkans and Eastern Europe. They even participated in the seizing of Crimea and likely were used for reconnaissance prior to 2022 invasion.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20563051231177920
Even Wagner Group throughout its founding and up to today has strong ties to white supremacists groups and neo-nazis.
Russia can't beat NATO in a direct confrontation so they find and train groups like this to create internal strife and clandestine activities.
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2024-15-06
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As they (far) rightly should.
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As they (far) rightly should.
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2024-15-06
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Anyone who uses imagery reminiscent of that used in Nazi Germany is a good sign they are Nazis. Even things like worship of spartans and crusaders has infected our military at the highest level. If the US is giving funding to Wagner (unlikely) I'd expect that to cease also.
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Anyone who uses imagery reminiscent of that used in Nazi Germany is a good sign they are Nazis. Even things like worship of spartans and crusaders has infected our military at the highest level. If the US is giving funding to Wagner (unlikely) I'd expect that to cease also.
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2024-15-06
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Where?
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Where?
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2024-15-06
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Okay, now do all of our domestic terrorist nazi groups
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Okay, now do all of our domestic terrorist nazi groups
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2024-15-06
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> For all the comments demanding that certifiably domestic terrorist organizations aren't on this list, they simply can't be on this one.
And let’s keep it that way please. I am also horrified by the rise of far-right terrorism in the US but granting the federal government the power to declare certain domestic groups “terrorists” is a terrible idea, unless you’re comfortable with a future Trump administration declaring everyone they don’t like to be “Antifa Terrorists”
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> For all the comments demanding that certifiably domestic terrorist organizations aren't on this list, they simply can't be on this one.
And let’s keep it that way please. I am also horrified by the rise of far-right terrorism in the US but granting the federal government the power to declare certain domestic groups “terrorists” is a terrible idea, unless you’re comfortable with a future Trump administration declaring everyone they don’t like to be “Antifa Terrorists”
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2024-15-06
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I'm not gonna start a reddit argument about January 6th since the entirety of reddit is convinced it was the darkest day in American history, but I'm pretty sure BLM riots had a LOT more terrorism than Jan 6th.
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I'm not gonna start a reddit argument about January 6th since the entirety of reddit is convinced it was the darkest day in American history, but I'm pretty sure BLM riots had a LOT more terrorism than Jan 6th.
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2024-15-06
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Brought to Germany by fleeing Russian nobles as well
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Brought to Germany by fleeing Russian nobles as well
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2024-15-06
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Is there such thing as life in prison without parole in Finland?
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Is there such thing as life in prison without parole in Finland?
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2024-15-06
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> life sentence here is 12 years and you can basically halve it with good behaviour
That's actually not true. Life sentence in Finland is for life, but can be paroled by the president. It has become common for the president to parole life sentences after 12 years, but this is not automatic. Also different presidents parole at different rates.
Also there's no halving the penalty for life sentences, ever. That only happens when it's the first conviction and when the sentence is not for life.
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> life sentence here is 12 years and you can basically halve it with good behaviour
That's actually not true. Life sentence in Finland is for life, but can be paroled by the president. It has become common for the president to parole life sentences after 12 years, but this is not automatic. Also different presidents parole at different rates.
Also there's no halving the penalty for life sentences, ever. That only happens when it's the first conviction and when the sentence is not for life.
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2024-15-06
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Why can’t we designate our own neo-Nazi groups as terrorists?
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Why can’t we designate our own neo-Nazi groups as terrorists?
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2024-15-06
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Well I was wrong then. I will admit my ignorance.
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Well I was wrong then. I will admit my ignorance.
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2024-15-06
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So do you think January 6 was warfare rather than terrorism? They weren’t trying to scare people, they were trying to actually overturn the election.
I don’t see much of a difference really; one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. There’s no objective difference. The American Revolution started with freedom fighters/terrorists. The one distinction I guess you can make is that terrorists targeting civilians are worse than terrorists targeting government institutions.
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So do you think January 6 was warfare rather than terrorism? They weren’t trying to scare people, they were trying to actually overturn the election.
I don’t see much of a difference really; one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. There’s no objective difference. The American Revolution started with freedom fighters/terrorists. The one distinction I guess you can make is that terrorists targeting civilians are worse than terrorists targeting government institutions.
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2024-15-06
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I don’t think the quantity is the only thing that matters though. January 6 was bad because it represents the very real potential for an end of democracy. And I think democracy is very good, and it would be an incredible loss to see it slip away in favor of authoritarianism.
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I don’t think the quantity is the only thing that matters though. January 6 was bad because it represents the very real potential for an end of democracy. And I think democracy is very good, and it would be an incredible loss to see it slip away in favor of authoritarianism.
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2024-15-06
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Yeah, he'd probably be welcomed with open arms (by prisoners and guards alike) if he were going to prison in certain parts of the US...
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Yeah, he'd probably be welcomed with open arms (by prisoners and guards alike) if he were going to prison in certain parts of the US...
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2024-15-06
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Okay buddy, here's my hot take: January 6th was much more of a PR opportunity for Democrats than it was a representation of "the very real potential for an end of democracy".
Come the hell on, this isn't Prague in the 1600s, you don't have a political revolution by a bunch of people walking into a building and throwing people outside of a window or by sitting on a fancy chair and proclaiming yourself king. Nothing that happened that day with those MAGA idiots LARPing as political revolutionaries could have changed the outcome of the election.
There was no democracy threatened by authoritarianism on that day. Funnily enough, the people who were there and participated believe the Democrats are the authoritarians. But that's beside the point. I'll be eager for the elections this year so I can watch from an ocean away as the anti-MAGA crowd probably end up doing the same if not worse than J6.
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Okay buddy, here's my hot take: January 6th was much more of a PR opportunity for Democrats than it was a representation of "the very real potential for an end of democracy".
Come the hell on, this isn't Prague in the 1600s, you don't have a political revolution by a bunch of people walking into a building and throwing people outside of a window or by sitting on a fancy chair and proclaiming yourself king. Nothing that happened that day with those MAGA idiots LARPing as political revolutionaries could have changed the outcome of the election.
There was no democracy threatened by authoritarianism on that day. Funnily enough, the people who were there and participated believe the Democrats are the authoritarians. But that's beside the point. I'll be eager for the elections this year so I can watch from an ocean away as the anti-MAGA crowd probably end up doing the same if not worse than J6.
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Chances for fun time is high. Finland’s prison system is more like vacationing at a resort. [https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo?si=uiwivPgoNjYzVxeQ](https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo?si=uiwivPgoNjYzVxeQ)
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Chances for fun time is high. Finland’s prison system is more like vacationing at a resort. [https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo?si=uiwivPgoNjYzVxeQ](https://youtu.be/l554kV12Wuo?si=uiwivPgoNjYzVxeQ)
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2024-15-06
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Umm, this guy isn’t going to any open prison lol
Did you think all criminals in Finland are in those minimum security prisons?
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Umm, this guy isn’t going to any open prison lol
Did you think all criminals in Finland are in those minimum security prisons?
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2024-15-06
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There is no maximum length of imprisonment for life sentence. However, when at least 12 years have passed the prisoner can be released on parole, depending on how dangerous they are.
So, it's possible to be actually imprisoned for life.
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There is no maximum length of imprisonment for life sentence. However, when at least 12 years have passed the prisoner can be released on parole, depending on how dangerous they are.
So, it's possible to be actually imprisoned for life.
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2024-15-06
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There is actually a 2022 article talking about this exact group, and why the Biden administration should do what it just did.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/07/is-biden-ignoring-tool-combat-violent-extremists-00005674
To answer you question though, is that there just isn't a legal mechanism to designate domestic groups as terrorists. As I understand it they would need a bill passed by congress to be able to do something like that.
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There is actually a 2022 article talking about this exact group, and why the Biden administration should do what it just did.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/07/is-biden-ignoring-tool-combat-violent-extremists-00005674
To answer you question though, is that there just isn't a legal mechanism to designate domestic groups as terrorists. As I understand it they would need a bill passed by congress to be able to do something like that.
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2024-15-06
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How about the ones who marched on the capitol building in Missouri last week, complete with coward masks and a Nazi flag? Why do US Nazis get a pass?
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How about the ones who marched on the capitol building in Missouri last week, complete with coward masks and a Nazi flag? Why do US Nazis get a pass?
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2024-15-06
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I think it was insurrection, rather than terrorism.
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I think it was insurrection, rather than terrorism.
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You don’t see that Israel’s reputation in the world is taking a serious hit? Not saying that it is deserved, just telling you what’s going on
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You don’t see that Israel’s reputation in the world is taking a serious hit? Not saying that it is deserved, just telling you what’s going on
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2024-15-06
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those people tend to have a specific idea of what "justice" would entail if it involves israel, and it certainly doesnt match any sane humans idea of justice.
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those people tend to have a specific idea of what "justice" would entail if it involves israel, and it certainly doesnt match any sane humans idea of justice.
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2024-15-06
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>pay for slay
Do we need stupid cutesy slogans for these sorts of things
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>pay for slay
Do we need stupid cutesy slogans for these sorts of things
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2024-15-06
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One is an islamist terrorist group. The other is a socialist hypernationalist terrorist group.
They are different, but equally shitty
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One is an islamist terrorist group. The other is a socialist hypernationalist terrorist group.
They are different, but equally shitty
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2024-15-06
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2006-roughly the last time they had the capacity to exart control. Coincidentally, it matches quite closely on the timeline with the end of the bloodiest terrorism campaigns they waged(2nd intifada). The correlation between fatah power and influence, and terrorism waged by fatah affiliated individuals is a clear one.
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2006-roughly the last time they had the capacity to exart control. Coincidentally, it matches quite closely on the timeline with the end of the bloodiest terrorism campaigns they waged(2nd intifada). The correlation between fatah power and influence, and terrorism waged by fatah affiliated individuals is a clear one.
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My heart breaks.
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My heart breaks.
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2024-15-06
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Form a gang…
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Form a gang…
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2024-15-06
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and let's just assume that a government that grants itself the power to arrest and permanently imprison people with zero judicial oversight or legal recourse would never, ever abuse that power to suppress its political opponents and stay in power.
seems like a reasonable assumption since this is latin america, where that kind of corruption just doesn't happen.
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and let's just assume that a government that grants itself the power to arrest and permanently imprison people with zero judicial oversight or legal recourse would never, ever abuse that power to suppress its political opponents and stay in power.
seems like a reasonable assumption since this is latin america, where that kind of corruption just doesn't happen.
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2024-15-06
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Tattoo - Jail.
No Tattoo - Also Jail.
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Tattoo - Jail.
No Tattoo - Also Jail.
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2024-15-06
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The solitairy confinement there is just a slab of stone to sleep on. That's a start.
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The solitairy confinement there is just a slab of stone to sleep on. That's a start.
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2024-15-06
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Even the US rental market in some cities look like shit, compared to Nordic prison cells
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Even the US rental market in some cities look like shit, compared to Nordic prison cells
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2024-15-06
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You treat them like wild animals not humans. You tell then where to stand, what to dress, what to eat, when to sleep, who to talk to, what they do with their time. You isolate them from the oustide world and make seeing daylight a privelege. If they dont obey, then you punish them severely.
Your average household dog has more rights then these men. For the things these guys have done though, they are animals and deserve to be treated like such.
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You treat them like wild animals not humans. You tell then where to stand, what to dress, what to eat, when to sleep, who to talk to, what they do with their time. You isolate them from the oustide world and make seeing daylight a privelege. If they dont obey, then you punish them severely.
Your average household dog has more rights then these men. For the things these guys have done though, they are animals and deserve to be treated like such.
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2024-15-06
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The deserve that treatment and probably worse
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The deserve that treatment and probably worse
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2024-15-06
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That’s not going to end well
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That’s not going to end well
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2024-15-06
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Ah, every poor Americans dream, being sent to a Nordic prison. And that's not entirely a joke. During the last housing crisis, I researched how much it would cost an American to go to a Nordic prison as part of a satirical article on said housing crisis. It was one of several creative ideas to solve your housing needs. IIRC, it was around $600 for a one-way ticket at the time. Add another $80 if you don't already have a passport.
The problem was the fact that the countries with nice prisons typically deal with foreign criminals by deporting them as soon as possible and banning them from ever coming back. You'd have to commit a pretty serious crime with actual victims to get sent to a Nordic prison as a foreigner.
So while the monetary cost was relatively low, the moral cost was (hopefully) high for most.
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Ah, every poor Americans dream, being sent to a Nordic prison. And that's not entirely a joke. During the last housing crisis, I researched how much it would cost an American to go to a Nordic prison as part of a satirical article on said housing crisis. It was one of several creative ideas to solve your housing needs. IIRC, it was around $600 for a one-way ticket at the time. Add another $80 if you don't already have a passport.
The problem was the fact that the countries with nice prisons typically deal with foreign criminals by deporting them as soon as possible and banning them from ever coming back. You'd have to commit a pretty serious crime with actual victims to get sent to a Nordic prison as a foreigner.
So while the monetary cost was relatively low, the moral cost was (hopefully) high for most.
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2024-15-06
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That just means have better security. But yeah tradition being the main reason will be their downfall.
And good riddance.
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That just means have better security. But yeah tradition being the main reason will be their downfall.
And good riddance.
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2024-15-06
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Yes, prison should not be a fun place to be.
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Yes, prison should not be a fun place to be.
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2024-15-06
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big pharma can use them to trial new medicine..at least make them useful
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big pharma can use them to trial new medicine..at least make them useful
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2024-15-06
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almost everyone I saw in those pics had very prominent MS13 tattoos
they sure make it easy to get rounded up
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almost everyone I saw in those pics had very prominent MS13 tattoos
they sure make it easy to get rounded up
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2024-15-06
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As I say. It matters more than you think.
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As I say. It matters more than you think.
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2024-15-06
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Yo wtf?
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Yo wtf?
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2024-15-06
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In isolation this is a good makeshift solution but I worry about long term consequences.
1) do they have a plan for rehabilitation? Or do they plan on keeping these guys locked up for the rest of their lives? I bet many of these gang members have families and kids too - a bunch of gang members' kids growing up fatherless without some support from the state doesn't sound great
2) bukele is becoming increasingly authoritarian and the country is backsliding significantly in its democracy. We've seen the story of an initially popular dictator turn into a despot decades down the line so many times. the government has already identified gang members as public enemy number one and created procedures and institutions to perform mass arrests. Who's to say they won't invoke this against protestors or political dissidents? They'll just say these people are "gang sympathisers" or something.
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In isolation this is a good makeshift solution but I worry about long term consequences.
1) do they have a plan for rehabilitation? Or do they plan on keeping these guys locked up for the rest of their lives? I bet many of these gang members have families and kids too - a bunch of gang members' kids growing up fatherless without some support from the state doesn't sound great
2) bukele is becoming increasingly authoritarian and the country is backsliding significantly in its democracy. We've seen the story of an initially popular dictator turn into a despot decades down the line so many times. the government has already identified gang members as public enemy number one and created procedures and institutions to perform mass arrests. Who's to say they won't invoke this against protestors or political dissidents? They'll just say these people are "gang sympathisers" or something.
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2024-15-06
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That photo makes it look like El Salvador is where they're filming Human Centipede 4
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That photo makes it look like El Salvador is where they're filming Human Centipede 4
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2024-15-06
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You appear to be hardwired to blindly hate anything you can compare to a “dictatorship”, even if it’s massively positive for the lives of El Salvadorians.
Maybe consider that “liberal democracy” doesn’t work for the vast majority of nations, especially those which lack physical and/or economic security. It even appears to be failing in most Western nations lately.
Instead of attempting to apply some “best form of government” to every country, you should acknowledge that you have to be pragmatic about each country’s needs first.
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You appear to be hardwired to blindly hate anything you can compare to a “dictatorship”, even if it’s massively positive for the lives of El Salvadorians.
Maybe consider that “liberal democracy” doesn’t work for the vast majority of nations, especially those which lack physical and/or economic security. It even appears to be failing in most Western nations lately.
Instead of attempting to apply some “best form of government” to every country, you should acknowledge that you have to be pragmatic about each country’s needs first.
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2024-15-06
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Why? He would be released in 10-12 months again 🤣
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Why? He would be released in 10-12 months again 🤣
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2024-15-06
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Im not shitting on dictatorship, its just another form of government. if anything, I am a avid disbeliever of democracy, everyone having equal say is a fking stupid ass premise.
The issue with dictatorship is that all it takes is 1 bad successor to fuk everything up. You can have a authoritative government and not have a single point of failure. How much power is concentrated matters.
And the problem with El Salvador especially is that its not a dictatorship, its semi/roughly democratic, but the current legislation is setting up questionable precedents. For example: the 2 term thing.
Even if everything is set for benevolence, power attracts, this is why the saying goes: Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. How it goes from here, only time will tell.
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Im not shitting on dictatorship, its just another form of government. if anything, I am a avid disbeliever of democracy, everyone having equal say is a fking stupid ass premise.
The issue with dictatorship is that all it takes is 1 bad successor to fuk everything up. You can have a authoritative government and not have a single point of failure. How much power is concentrated matters.
And the problem with El Salvador especially is that its not a dictatorship, its semi/roughly democratic, but the current legislation is setting up questionable precedents. For example: the 2 term thing.
Even if everything is set for benevolence, power attracts, this is why the saying goes: Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. How it goes from here, only time will tell.
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2024-15-06
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All gang members are forced to get a gang tattoo. No normal citizen gets any kind of tattoo in El Salvador, I saw a dude with big MS13 or 18 on this whole back. You are doing the classic west bullshit, complaining about the situation without providing no solution.
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All gang members are forced to get a gang tattoo. No normal citizen gets any kind of tattoo in El Salvador, I saw a dude with big MS13 or 18 on this whole back. You are doing the classic west bullshit, complaining about the situation without providing no solution.
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2024-15-06
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> Last time they did that, the guards were ordered to leave and many prisoners burned to death by the same fire they started.
Leopards ate my face moment
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> Last time they did that, the guards were ordered to leave and many prisoners burned to death by the same fire they started.
Leopards ate my face moment
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2024-15-06
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To be fair, no one expects that the reported umbers for China are real. There is no transparency from the government. As far as I believe, these numbers are made up to make china look good.
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To be fair, no one expects that the reported umbers for China are real. There is no transparency from the government. As far as I believe, these numbers are made up to make china look good.
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2024-15-06
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Let's say China does incarcerate more than the US. It still wouldn't make the US quantity small.
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Let's say China does incarcerate more than the US. It still wouldn't make the US quantity small.
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2024-15-06
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You're acting like gangs can't adapt. A widespread event like this can 100% lead to gangs changing the requirement. Otherwise, they definitely get locked up.
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You're acting like gangs can't adapt. A widespread event like this can 100% lead to gangs changing the requirement. Otherwise, they definitely get locked up.
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2024-15-06
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Unfortunately, people don't think that far ahead. They only focus on the short term.
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Unfortunately, people don't think that far ahead. They only focus on the short term.
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2024-15-06
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the problem is actually left wing media. we had a historic drop in crime now cause we had a historic rise in crime post blm when we decided to get extremely lax with crime and criminals became emboldened.
We still actually have the same or more (I think more crime) than before blm. Left wing media makes you think being lax on crime made things better but no, lax on crime was directly post blm.
Now is actually when weve started to get tougher on crime again and the crime rates are now dropping rapidly.
Everything I've said about crime rates and when we were tough/lax on crime are fact. Look it up yourself. The left wing media just isn't sharing with you preblm data and what I just told you is too much thinking for the average American so media just doesn't go into it,
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the problem is actually left wing media. we had a historic drop in crime now cause we had a historic rise in crime post blm when we decided to get extremely lax with crime and criminals became emboldened.
We still actually have the same or more (I think more crime) than before blm. Left wing media makes you think being lax on crime made things better but no, lax on crime was directly post blm.
Now is actually when weve started to get tougher on crime again and the crime rates are now dropping rapidly.
Everything I've said about crime rates and when we were tough/lax on crime are fact. Look it up yourself. The left wing media just isn't sharing with you preblm data and what I just told you is too much thinking for the average American so media just doesn't go into it,
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2024-15-06
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These prisons remind me of Pandora with all the bandits and whatnot.
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These prisons remind me of Pandora with all the bandits and whatnot.
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