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>If he loses that much face, he's out
It's not just face. If he sends all of China's young men into the meat grinder, their demographic collapse goes from already dire to unsalvageable. Their Han Chinese population would be on its way to plummeting off a cliff in numbers in the next few decades.
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>If he loses that much face, he's out
It's not just face. If he sends all of China's young men into the meat grinder, their demographic collapse goes from already dire to unsalvageable. Their Han Chinese population would be on its way to plummeting off a cliff in numbers in the next few decades.
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2024-17-06
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Poor? US gets along as well as any Western country
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Poor? US gets along as well as any Western country
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2024-17-06
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Please provide credible sources that agree with your prediction.
[Here](https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/230109_Cancian_FirstBattle_NextWar.pdf?VersionId=XlDrfCUHet8OZSOYW_9PWx3xtc0ScGHn) is the CSIS report that was developed from hundreds of millions of possible invasion iterations and covers many possible outcomes - none of which result in millions of deaths.
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Please provide credible sources that agree with your prediction.
[Here](https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/230109_Cancian_FirstBattle_NextWar.pdf?VersionId=XlDrfCUHet8OZSOYW_9PWx3xtc0ScGHn) is the CSIS report that was developed from hundreds of millions of possible invasion iterations and covers many possible outcomes - none of which result in millions of deaths.
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2024-17-06
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We have 11 carriers and they are all better than China's 3. China just built that #3 carrier and it is the first carrier than can directly rival the USA carriers, but it is unproven at the moment.
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We have 11 carriers and they are all better than China's 3. China just built that #3 carrier and it is the first carrier than can directly rival the USA carriers, but it is unproven at the moment.
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2024-17-06
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Crab fishing... it's why I put "technically" in there. Could Russia invade Alaska across the Bering strait? Yes. Would they? No.
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Crab fishing... it's why I put "technically" in there. Could Russia invade Alaska across the Bering strait? Yes. Would they? No.
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2024-17-06
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44 billion is what Elon musk is demanding to be compensated for pretending to be useful to Tesla.
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44 billion is what Elon musk is demanding to be compensated for pretending to be useful to Tesla.
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2024-17-06
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China now fully controls Hong Kong by erasing any form of autonomy and this is breaking an agreement made with Britain. China knows it can’t successfully invade Taiwan yet but make no mistake, they definitely want to take Taiwan.
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China now fully controls Hong Kong by erasing any form of autonomy and this is breaking an agreement made with Britain. China knows it can’t successfully invade Taiwan yet but make no mistake, they definitely want to take Taiwan.
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2024-17-06
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The standard way of reporting on China is to take random inconsequential comments or actions and turn them into apocalyptic scenarios.
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The standard way of reporting on China is to take random inconsequential comments or actions and turn them into apocalyptic scenarios.
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2024-17-06
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Try 100 million. Taiwan deployed a indigenous cruise missile with enough range to hit the 3 gorges dam last year. China invades Taiwan has a Samson protocol
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Try 100 million. Taiwan deployed a indigenous cruise missile with enough range to hit the 3 gorges dam last year. China invades Taiwan has a Samson protocol
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2024-17-06
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Really? Last week I was almost tricked into invading that plucky little nation. Luckily I called it off at the last second.
Oooooooooo those western nations of mine!
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Really? Last week I was almost tricked into invading that plucky little nation. Luckily I called it off at the last second.
Oooooooooo those western nations of mine!
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2024-17-06
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OK, so cool, just a misunderstanding, we apologize, it won’t happen again. So, make sure you do not invade Taiwan.
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OK, so cool, just a misunderstanding, we apologize, it won’t happen again. So, make sure you do not invade Taiwan.
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2024-17-06
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Don't stop me Smee!
^Stop ^me ^Smee!
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Don't stop me Smee!
^Stop ^me ^Smee!
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2024-17-06
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Pretty much. I don't place any importance on this latest statement; actions speak louder than words.
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Pretty much. I don't place any importance on this latest statement; actions speak louder than words.
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2024-17-06
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Yeah man. I mean, are you sure you’re invading right?
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Yeah man. I mean, are you sure you’re invading right?
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2024-17-06
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Im fucking delighted to see this rather than "Im gunna press the we're all dead button, I fuckin swear I will" that you get from putin.
We would legit go into a mini dark ages period if Taiwan got invaded. Too many people dont know how important TSMC is or how much of the modern electronics they have relies on Taiwan. They're almost a world wide single point of failure.
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Im fucking delighted to see this rather than "Im gunna press the we're all dead button, I fuckin swear I will" that you get from putin.
We would legit go into a mini dark ages period if Taiwan got invaded. Too many people dont know how important TSMC is or how much of the modern electronics they have relies on Taiwan. They're almost a world wide single point of failure.
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2024-17-06
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Taiwan doesn't recognize Taiwan. That would require them to give up their claims on mainland China, and they aren't ready to do that.
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Taiwan doesn't recognize Taiwan. That would require them to give up their claims on mainland China, and they aren't ready to do that.
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2024-17-06
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Xi is clearly trying to make himself look better here. We called him out on his bluff, and he's trying to spin it as if we were pressuring him into doing it in the first place.
There really is no supporting evidence that the US would ever *want* Taiwan to get dragged into a war, because as mentioned above, Taiwan is the top global supplier of semiconductor chips used in computer hardware. It would absolutely fuck over the global market for years, maybe even decades. There was a flood in Taiwan back in 2011 that wrecked the global SSD market for years, and an earthquake earlier this year that's had a similar effect.
Taiwan is in a very precarious position because it's so important globally to the electronics market, and even China isn't stupid enough to disrupt that.
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Xi is clearly trying to make himself look better here. We called him out on his bluff, and he's trying to spin it as if we were pressuring him into doing it in the first place.
There really is no supporting evidence that the US would ever *want* Taiwan to get dragged into a war, because as mentioned above, Taiwan is the top global supplier of semiconductor chips used in computer hardware. It would absolutely fuck over the global market for years, maybe even decades. There was a flood in Taiwan back in 2011 that wrecked the global SSD market for years, and an earthquake earlier this year that's had a similar effect.
Taiwan is in a very precarious position because it's so important globally to the electronics market, and even China isn't stupid enough to disrupt that.
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2024-17-06
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>And China just happens to have 10x the population.
That's also declining, especially because of the One Child Policy.
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>And China just happens to have 10x the population.
That's also declining, especially because of the One Child Policy.
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2024-17-06
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I did once. It was nice. Then I went home.
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I did once. It was nice. Then I went home.
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2024-17-06
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Yeah for real, I want Biden to do to Xi what he did to the Republicans who claimed that they didn't want to cut Social Security. Tell them "Oh, in that case, you'll have no problem pledging right now that you'll never invade Taiwan."
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Yeah for real, I want Biden to do to Xi what he did to the Republicans who claimed that they didn't want to cut Social Security. Tell them "Oh, in that case, you'll have no problem pledging right now that you'll never invade Taiwan."
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2024-17-06
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If this is a saving face off ramp then honestly I'm all for it. Good for Xi and good for China. I don't want to kill Chinese people and I don't want Chinese killing Americans. And I don't want innocent Taiwanese to suffer in the crossfire
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If this is a saving face off ramp then honestly I'm all for it. Good for Xi and good for China. I don't want to kill Chinese people and I don't want Chinese killing Americans. And I don't want innocent Taiwanese to suffer in the crossfire
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2024-17-06
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It's a real blow to the ego when you invade Taiwan, but she's like "is it in yet?".
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It's a real blow to the ego when you invade Taiwan, but she's like "is it in yet?".
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2024-17-06
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I think it's safe to say, with every passing year, this becomes a sillier goal. We're fast approaching a time whe no living person would have known a "one china" (Xi himself being less than 5 years old when the split happened). It's not one people, nor one culture. Taiwan speaks a different dialect of Mandarin, has different exposure to different countries and has historically seen the mainland government as an enemy, ie: Taiwan only stands to lose in reconciliation and China's claim to a monoculture is quickly becoming an imagined unity and not anything a living person has actually known.
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I think it's safe to say, with every passing year, this becomes a sillier goal. We're fast approaching a time whe no living person would have known a "one china" (Xi himself being less than 5 years old when the split happened). It's not one people, nor one culture. Taiwan speaks a different dialect of Mandarin, has different exposure to different countries and has historically seen the mainland government as an enemy, ie: Taiwan only stands to lose in reconciliation and China's claim to a monoculture is quickly becoming an imagined unity and not anything a living person has actually known.
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2024-17-06
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Oh go on. It's right there for the taking. The people there love you. They need you. It'll be easy, 2-3 days, tops.
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Oh go on. It's right there for the taking. The people there love you. They need you. It'll be easy, 2-3 days, tops.
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2024-17-06
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Also nuclear war. Don't forget nuclear war.
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Also nuclear war. Don't forget nuclear war.
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2024-17-06
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Y'all need higher standards
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Y'all need higher standards
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2024-17-06
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> Taiwan officially sees themselves as the "real" China
Do you have a recent official source claiming that the current government of Taiwan seeks reunification?
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> Taiwan officially sees themselves as the "real" China
Do you have a recent official source claiming that the current government of Taiwan seeks reunification?
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2024-17-06
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there really nothing stopping them using nuclear torpedos and nukes in general against ships though. Aside from risk aversion.
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there really nothing stopping them using nuclear torpedos and nukes in general against ships though. Aside from risk aversion.
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2024-17-06
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We agreed never to talk about that weekend again.
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We agreed never to talk about that weekend again.
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2024-17-06
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> two war doctrine
I thought it was Eisenhower that declared the two and a half war doctrine but it turns out it was JFK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_response#Two-and-a-half_war_doctrine
As a US veteran, I am highly doubtful the USA could sustain the necessary munition production to endure more than 2 weeks in a dual campaign scenario. Just one example: the war in Ukraine has been eye-opening regarding how many artillery shells are expended per day just to hold the line.
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> two war doctrine
I thought it was Eisenhower that declared the two and a half war doctrine but it turns out it was JFK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_response#Two-and-a-half_war_doctrine
As a US veteran, I am highly doubtful the USA could sustain the necessary munition production to endure more than 2 weeks in a dual campaign scenario. Just one example: the war in Ukraine has been eye-opening regarding how many artillery shells are expended per day just to hold the line.
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2024-17-06
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4chan is not one entity.
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4chan is not one entity.
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2024-17-06
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That's not what he said.
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That's not what he said.
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2024-17-06
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Chin up, King. Your crown is slipping.
Hit the lawyer. Delete the gym.
Read some Marcus Aurelius.
You’ll be back invading Taiwan in no time.
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Chin up, King. Your crown is slipping.
Hit the lawyer. Delete the gym.
Read some Marcus Aurelius.
You’ll be back invading Taiwan in no time.
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2024-17-06
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looks like he's saving face at this point. China's internally dealing with some real shit right now in the form of natural disasters and civil unrest from people who got used to living decent lifestyles. People who got all their money stolen from banks coupled with food scarcity and Xi's own weird desire to become the new mao has led to a lot of issues internally. He's realizing that if he tries to take Taiwan, it's going to lead to him losing out on a more lucrative deal..
Which is to focus on selling/lending equipment to Russia and using the Russian east as collateral. Which is more lucrative than spending money on a full scale invasion on Taiwan at this point.
Also the fact that the US is dumping its old equipment on Ukraine and is able to make Russia sweat is something to not sneeze at. It's the equivalent of a fight where a fighter holds back another fighter from punching him with his pinky. China will definitely be trying again, and likely hopes that TSMC and other Taiwanese assets stop going to the US and US territories as a fail safe if Taiwan falls from this announcement.
Too fucking late.
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looks like he's saving face at this point. China's internally dealing with some real shit right now in the form of natural disasters and civil unrest from people who got used to living decent lifestyles. People who got all their money stolen from banks coupled with food scarcity and Xi's own weird desire to become the new mao has led to a lot of issues internally. He's realizing that if he tries to take Taiwan, it's going to lead to him losing out on a more lucrative deal..
Which is to focus on selling/lending equipment to Russia and using the Russian east as collateral. Which is more lucrative than spending money on a full scale invasion on Taiwan at this point.
Also the fact that the US is dumping its old equipment on Ukraine and is able to make Russia sweat is something to not sneeze at. It's the equivalent of a fight where a fighter holds back another fighter from punching him with his pinky. China will definitely be trying again, and likely hopes that TSMC and other Taiwanese assets stop going to the US and US territories as a fail safe if Taiwan falls from this announcement.
Too fucking late.
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2024-17-06
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>but the US is going to "verify" the tech it developed and licensed to ASML
Specifically what technology does "the US" develop and license to ASML, because that's not at all how that works. ASML's main research headquarters is in the Netherlands, they do all their research in house as well. So I'm very curious as to where you got your information. I use to work with ASML in a few classes in uni, so I know a fair bit about this.
The international offices of ASML, including the ones in the US, are largely customer and maintenance facilities, not research.
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>but the US is going to "verify" the tech it developed and licensed to ASML
Specifically what technology does "the US" develop and license to ASML, because that's not at all how that works. ASML's main research headquarters is in the Netherlands, they do all their research in house as well. So I'm very curious as to where you got your information. I use to work with ASML in a few classes in uni, so I know a fair bit about this.
The international offices of ASML, including the ones in the US, are largely customer and maintenance facilities, not research.
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2024-17-06
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that and China is going to come out of this better because they're likely belt-and-roading Russia right now with all that military aid. They want Siberia and unfettered access to the arctic circle, which benefits them in the long term more than getting Taiwan, which is more of a want than an actual need. Siberia and arctic circle access is a need.
When Putin kicks the bucket, they're going to be getting that land and will be more capable of taking it by force if Russia objects. Why put that military power into taking Taiwan when you can have access to some of the largest natural gas and oil reserves on the planet that will make taking Taiwan easier in the future?
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that and China is going to come out of this better because they're likely belt-and-roading Russia right now with all that military aid. They want Siberia and unfettered access to the arctic circle, which benefits them in the long term more than getting Taiwan, which is more of a want than an actual need. Siberia and arctic circle access is a need.
When Putin kicks the bucket, they're going to be getting that land and will be more capable of taking it by force if Russia objects. Why put that military power into taking Taiwan when you can have access to some of the largest natural gas and oil reserves on the planet that will make taking Taiwan easier in the future?
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2024-17-06
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Russia is preparing for a very long war. While much of the European defense buildup can be attributed to Ukraine, the effects of inflation and the cost of living crisis have pushed far-right parties towards the mainstream. The far-right won big in the recent European elections, Le Pen's RN will probably win the French Presidency in a few weeks time, The AFD, despite being overtly neo-Nazi, still won big. Orban is still in full control of Hungary. The Turks have turned heavily against US support for Israel and now uses Russia as a counterbalance. The UK will swing to the left with Starmer very soon. Only Meloni's far-right Italian government is proving to be more trouble than originally envisaged for the Kremlin.
And then there's Trump. He's leading in the polls, and Biden's base is lukewarm at best, whether it's because of inflation or Israel.
I would say that Russia has many things going for it in the long run. And while China probably hoped for a swift Russian victory, a forever war in Europe would tie down US forces and military spending towards a faraway continent. With the EU dependent on the US for energy, it will never regain the competitive advantages for industries that previously relied on cheap Russian energy. Chinese businesses will eat them in Europe and elsewhere, accelerating Europe's industrial decline, even if they put up tariffs to protect themselves.
And here's the biggest thing: China will never allow a West-leaning Russia, including the possibility of US troops near China's borders. Because if that happens they would be truly surrounded by all sides. And the Chinese knew this well because they once proposed to Reagan the stationing of secret US bases on Chinese soil near the Soviet border - there's a reason why the PLA operates Blackhawk helicopters and C-130s, and has a license to build the M-16 rifle.
If China has to bail out Russia, it would.
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Russia is preparing for a very long war. While much of the European defense buildup can be attributed to Ukraine, the effects of inflation and the cost of living crisis have pushed far-right parties towards the mainstream. The far-right won big in the recent European elections, Le Pen's RN will probably win the French Presidency in a few weeks time, The AFD, despite being overtly neo-Nazi, still won big. Orban is still in full control of Hungary. The Turks have turned heavily against US support for Israel and now uses Russia as a counterbalance. The UK will swing to the left with Starmer very soon. Only Meloni's far-right Italian government is proving to be more trouble than originally envisaged for the Kremlin.
And then there's Trump. He's leading in the polls, and Biden's base is lukewarm at best, whether it's because of inflation or Israel.
I would say that Russia has many things going for it in the long run. And while China probably hoped for a swift Russian victory, a forever war in Europe would tie down US forces and military spending towards a faraway continent. With the EU dependent on the US for energy, it will never regain the competitive advantages for industries that previously relied on cheap Russian energy. Chinese businesses will eat them in Europe and elsewhere, accelerating Europe's industrial decline, even if they put up tariffs to protect themselves.
And here's the biggest thing: China will never allow a West-leaning Russia, including the possibility of US troops near China's borders. Because if that happens they would be truly surrounded by all sides. And the Chinese knew this well because they once proposed to Reagan the stationing of secret US bases on Chinese soil near the Soviet border - there's a reason why the PLA operates Blackhawk helicopters and C-130s, and has a license to build the M-16 rifle.
If China has to bail out Russia, it would.
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2024-17-06
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More like he's realizing it's more lucrative to "back" Russia and eventually get Russian Territory out of the deal. China plays the long game.
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More like he's realizing it's more lucrative to "back" Russia and eventually get Russian Territory out of the deal. China plays the long game.
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2024-17-06
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> Just one example: the war in Ukraine has been eye-opening regarding how many artillery shells are expended per day just to hold the line.
The reason why artillery has been so important to both sides so far is for two reasons: neither has gained true air superiority, and it's in their historical doctrine.
Western/NATO doctrine relies heavily on air dominance and maneuver warfare. Both of which, if done well, make artillery next to useless.
It's how we fucked the shit out of Iraq twice.
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> Just one example: the war in Ukraine has been eye-opening regarding how many artillery shells are expended per day just to hold the line.
The reason why artillery has been so important to both sides so far is for two reasons: neither has gained true air superiority, and it's in their historical doctrine.
Western/NATO doctrine relies heavily on air dominance and maneuver warfare. Both of which, if done well, make artillery next to useless.
It's how we fucked the shit out of Iraq twice.
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2024-17-06
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im wondering how we tried to trick them into invading taiwan. by recognizing it as a nation?
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im wondering how we tried to trick them into invading taiwan. by recognizing it as a nation?
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2024-17-06
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The problem with invading Taiwan is I’m ready to invade someone else an hour later.
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The problem with invading Taiwan is I’m ready to invade someone else an hour later.
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2024-17-06
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If you want to be a world super power than you need to be able to project power. You aren't a world superpower and your Navy ain't shit if all you can do is bully your local neighbors.
What is China going to do when we choke them out of international trade on the ocean? Is anyone going to brag about how many ship they have then?
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If you want to be a world super power than you need to be able to project power. You aren't a world superpower and your Navy ain't shit if all you can do is bully your local neighbors.
What is China going to do when we choke them out of international trade on the ocean? Is anyone going to brag about how many ship they have then?
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2024-17-06
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Mainland Taiwan
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Mainland Taiwan
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2024-17-06
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The way they both recognize the “One China policy” is some major mental gymnastics.
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The way they both recognize the “One China policy” is some major mental gymnastics.
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2024-17-06
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But they *really* want to send their kids here for education and the high life.
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But they *really* want to send their kids here for education and the high life.
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2024-17-06
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>What is China going to do when we choke them out of international trade on the ocean?
that is part of the reason for the belt and road initiative, creating alternative international trade routes overland. and yes its ultimately probably the main reason why China does not plan to invade Taiwan anytime soon unless there is some major geopolitical change(like the USA suddenly deciding to just abandon its commitment to defend Taiwan)
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>What is China going to do when we choke them out of international trade on the ocean?
that is part of the reason for the belt and road initiative, creating alternative international trade routes overland. and yes its ultimately probably the main reason why China does not plan to invade Taiwan anytime soon unless there is some major geopolitical change(like the USA suddenly deciding to just abandon its commitment to defend Taiwan)
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2024-17-06
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Deadliest Catch: Kremlin Edition
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Deadliest Catch: Kremlin Edition
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2024-17-06
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It's not without some element of truth. If you believe your geopolitical adversary is a rising economic, technological and military power, and you believed that war is inevitable, would you take the fight to them now, or wait until they get stronger?
If you remember the Reuters article about the US disinformation/psyops campaign against Chinese vaccines, it's that US military commanders are more than willing to take the fight to China today, overriding the objections of State diplomats and ambassadors, if they're allowed to by the White House.
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It's not without some element of truth. If you believe your geopolitical adversary is a rising economic, technological and military power, and you believed that war is inevitable, would you take the fight to them now, or wait until they get stronger?
If you remember the Reuters article about the US disinformation/psyops campaign against Chinese vaccines, it's that US military commanders are more than willing to take the fight to China today, overriding the objections of State diplomats and ambassadors, if they're allowed to by the White House.
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2024-17-06
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Will be naive if you don’t think US has their hand on most political play. War is still the money printing machine
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Will be naive if you don’t think US has their hand on most political play. War is still the money printing machine
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2024-18-06
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Most Puerto Ricans disagree. In fact, most Puerto Ricans want the opposite: for PR to become a US state.
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Most Puerto Ricans disagree. In fact, most Puerto Ricans want the opposite: for PR to become a US state.
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2024-18-06
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Who knows what a country would do when facing utter and total destruction. What does it matter at that point that Taiwan will be “on their own.”
Chinese culture has proverbs to describe such insane action. And we also call it MAD.
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Who knows what a country would do when facing utter and total destruction. What does it matter at that point that Taiwan will be “on their own.”
Chinese culture has proverbs to describe such insane action. And we also call it MAD.
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2024-18-06
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meanwhile Putin: "Oops, I did it again".
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meanwhile Putin: "Oops, I did it again".
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2024-18-06
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You mean this?:
>If you want to use "imperialist apologism" as a synonym for "basic socialist theory," then sure. Imperialism and capitalism are based on the idea of infinite growth. Modern socialism, which I subscribe to, acknowledges that limits exist.
You might realize that I'd be asking where you mentioned socialism before that, since this I asked because this comment brings it up apropos of nothing.
Anyways
>What resources did the US steal from Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan
Well, the USA lost. Hard to exploit a country that either forces you to give up or resists long enough.
As for Iraq, have you noticed that the new government is just a quiet US puppet? Instead of the loud pan-Arab Saddam who raised the Iraqi literacy rate higher than many US states, got women the vote, and lowered poverty significantly through, one might say, *socialist* means.
>If you say something stupid like oil, boy you have some reading to do because Afghanistan doesn't even have oil reserves and Iraq hasn't sent any in the last 3 decades.
It's interesting that you spout off about how I don't undersatand geopolitics, yet you have no idea how any of those 3 were connected to the imperialist machine. For one, Vietnam was a source of cheap labour, and while it still is because of living costs, the price of manufactiring there has risen steeply since the revolution. Iraq, as mentioned, and Libya as well, were loudly anti-interference - this causes problems for companies which want to leverage US threat into low royalties for resource extraction in neighbouring countries. As for Afghanistan, post-9/11 public sentiment provided a cover for the US gov't to transfer billions of tax dollars to the weapons industry.
Its like you think that every conflict is contained in its own little bubble, yet it's called geopolitics because each system affects others.
>Because of this, you paint any discourse that doesn't fit your rigid-but-misguided view of geopolitical justice as "supporting imperialism" even if you're pointing your finger to execute fellow leftists and anti-capitalists.
"Justice". Give me a break. Millions more died because of the US than would ever have been saved in any of their interventions.
If you support the murder of civilians for the crimes of a few, you're not "on the left".
>I want a world where people are taken care of and aren't exploited by ultra powerful corporate entities. I'm also not going to pretend that a fellow worker is my enemy just because they don't want to pick a gun and die to achieve that goal. It's not realistic, and neither are your higher standards
First, "higher standards" refers to comparing the USA to the rest of the West. An extremely low bar: UK/Spain/Dutch colonial (genocidal) history, France's current active colonial activity, Germany from like the 1910-1945, Russia's colonial (genocidal) history in Siberia and East Asia and actyive colonial effort today in Ukraine, etc. **Y'all need higher standards.**
And specifically to this:
>I'm also not going to pretend that a fellow worker is my enemy just because they don't want to pick a gun and die to achieve that goal.
Classic coward behaviour from someone with something to lose.
“The white liberal differs from the white conservative in one way. The liberal is more deceitful and hypocritical than conservatives. Both want power; but the white liberal has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s (sic) friend and benefactor.” - Malcolm X
Put into a modern context:
Talk is meaningless. Words alone accomplish no meaningful change. Action does. If you and your friends are unwilling to take action, then you are no better than the imperialists and fascists you pretend to be against. You're the German conservatives and liberals who preferred the Nazis to the Communists, because the Nazis let them keep and expand private property.
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You mean this?:
>If you want to use "imperialist apologism" as a synonym for "basic socialist theory," then sure. Imperialism and capitalism are based on the idea of infinite growth. Modern socialism, which I subscribe to, acknowledges that limits exist.
You might realize that I'd be asking where you mentioned socialism before that, since this I asked because this comment brings it up apropos of nothing.
Anyways
>What resources did the US steal from Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan
Well, the USA lost. Hard to exploit a country that either forces you to give up or resists long enough.
As for Iraq, have you noticed that the new government is just a quiet US puppet? Instead of the loud pan-Arab Saddam who raised the Iraqi literacy rate higher than many US states, got women the vote, and lowered poverty significantly through, one might say, *socialist* means.
>If you say something stupid like oil, boy you have some reading to do because Afghanistan doesn't even have oil reserves and Iraq hasn't sent any in the last 3 decades.
It's interesting that you spout off about how I don't undersatand geopolitics, yet you have no idea how any of those 3 were connected to the imperialist machine. For one, Vietnam was a source of cheap labour, and while it still is because of living costs, the price of manufactiring there has risen steeply since the revolution. Iraq, as mentioned, and Libya as well, were loudly anti-interference - this causes problems for companies which want to leverage US threat into low royalties for resource extraction in neighbouring countries. As for Afghanistan, post-9/11 public sentiment provided a cover for the US gov't to transfer billions of tax dollars to the weapons industry.
Its like you think that every conflict is contained in its own little bubble, yet it's called geopolitics because each system affects others.
>Because of this, you paint any discourse that doesn't fit your rigid-but-misguided view of geopolitical justice as "supporting imperialism" even if you're pointing your finger to execute fellow leftists and anti-capitalists.
"Justice". Give me a break. Millions more died because of the US than would ever have been saved in any of their interventions.
If you support the murder of civilians for the crimes of a few, you're not "on the left".
>I want a world where people are taken care of and aren't exploited by ultra powerful corporate entities. I'm also not going to pretend that a fellow worker is my enemy just because they don't want to pick a gun and die to achieve that goal. It's not realistic, and neither are your higher standards
First, "higher standards" refers to comparing the USA to the rest of the West. An extremely low bar: UK/Spain/Dutch colonial (genocidal) history, France's current active colonial activity, Germany from like the 1910-1945, Russia's colonial (genocidal) history in Siberia and East Asia and actyive colonial effort today in Ukraine, etc. **Y'all need higher standards.**
And specifically to this:
>I'm also not going to pretend that a fellow worker is my enemy just because they don't want to pick a gun and die to achieve that goal.
Classic coward behaviour from someone with something to lose.
“The white liberal differs from the white conservative in one way. The liberal is more deceitful and hypocritical than conservatives. Both want power; but the white liberal has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s (sic) friend and benefactor.” - Malcolm X
Put into a modern context:
Talk is meaningless. Words alone accomplish no meaningful change. Action does. If you and your friends are unwilling to take action, then you are no better than the imperialists and fascists you pretend to be against. You're the German conservatives and liberals who preferred the Nazis to the Communists, because the Nazis let them keep and expand private property.
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2024-18-06
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It's worth noting that Taiwan is the last remnant of the pre-civil war China. Not the other way around. The mainland's government were the ones who rebelled during communist revolution. Taiwan's all that's left of the government from before that.
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It's worth noting that Taiwan is the last remnant of the pre-civil war China. Not the other way around. The mainland's government were the ones who rebelled during communist revolution. Taiwan's all that's left of the government from before that.
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2024-18-06
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> Basically the military industrial complex got a booster shot without any loss of life
except you know... the ukranian ones...
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> Basically the military industrial complex got a booster shot without any loss of life
except you know... the ukranian ones...
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2024-18-06
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Sure China wouldn’t be able to recover, but the same would likely apply to the US. It’s lose lose. The current situation already has all the SEA nations gravitating towards the US. They have no choice given Xi’s sheer idiocy.
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Sure China wouldn’t be able to recover, but the same would likely apply to the US. It’s lose lose. The current situation already has all the SEA nations gravitating towards the US. They have no choice given Xi’s sheer idiocy.
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2024-18-06
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Here’s the thing. People do. Can you imagine a cheap ass electric car with a modern interior and no more gas money? For a large discount too? Basically the new Model T. China will have those and already does. The US is trying to ban them from selling the U.S.
Remember Huawei? Yeah they were spying on us (which our government does literally all the time ) but the U.S. was super happy to destroy competition in the U.S.
Not to mention making Tik Tok sell.
As a U.S. citizen our government doesn’t even try to deny anymore that they’re tracking everything we do (including this comment) but for some reason we really believe them when they say it’s to protect us. It’s just destroying competition.
Xi is a dictator piece of shit but let’s call it what it is. Two superpowers just doing business.
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Here’s the thing. People do. Can you imagine a cheap ass electric car with a modern interior and no more gas money? For a large discount too? Basically the new Model T. China will have those and already does. The US is trying to ban them from selling the U.S.
Remember Huawei? Yeah they were spying on us (which our government does literally all the time ) but the U.S. was super happy to destroy competition in the U.S.
Not to mention making Tik Tok sell.
As a U.S. citizen our government doesn’t even try to deny anymore that they’re tracking everything we do (including this comment) but for some reason we really believe them when they say it’s to protect us. It’s just destroying competition.
Xi is a dictator piece of shit but let’s call it what it is. Two superpowers just doing business.
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2024-18-06
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The names sticking for all the wrong un-cute reasons 😱
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The names sticking for all the wrong un-cute reasons 😱
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2024-18-06
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I invaded it one time for a little while. It was nice.
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I invaded it one time for a little while. It was nice.
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2024-18-06
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Inception double reverse uno tricked him into Not invading
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Inception double reverse uno tricked him into Not invading
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2024-18-06
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I seldom recognize Taiwan any more, lookin' all Singapore these days.
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I seldom recognize Taiwan any more, lookin' all Singapore these days.
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2024-18-06
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Or not. The point is that Xi turned the whole situation around. Now it is USA being the bad guy, and China is being brave and defiant… by not starting war and simply continuing what they were doing.
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Or not. The point is that Xi turned the whole situation around. Now it is USA being the bad guy, and China is being brave and defiant… by not starting war and simply continuing what they were doing.
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2024-18-06
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LOL. HK was a purely political handover. That's not how things would likely go down across the Strait. They've tried that method. They ship TW citizens living in the mainland back home for elections with voting instructions.
Which is to say, "the same fate as HK" is pretty low on the 'bad outcome' totem pole if things went south.
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LOL. HK was a purely political handover. That's not how things would likely go down across the Strait. They've tried that method. They ship TW citizens living in the mainland back home for elections with voting instructions.
Which is to say, "the same fate as HK" is pretty low on the 'bad outcome' totem pole if things went south.
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2024-18-06
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This is why I watch minecraft civilization videos. Their stories are better than any fucktardery the real world political landscape is capable of.
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This is why I watch minecraft civilization videos. Their stories are better than any fucktardery the real world political landscape is capable of.
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2024-18-06
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Kind of difficult. Imagine if, let's say Texas separated and the US never formally recognized Texas as a sovereign state because for all intents and purposes Texas is American.
Than, China comes in and says that Texas is not part of the US and is its own country - even if it is de facto. That changes the balance because it went from maybe reconciliation and unification to a never situation.
At that point the US would have to consider a military option to reunify. That's why it's putting them in a tight spot about invading Taiwan or not.
Frankly, I'm hoping the US backs off on this. This is to no one's interest and I highly doubt the US is going to be able to drum up that much international support for anything in Taiwan - maybe Japan?
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Kind of difficult. Imagine if, let's say Texas separated and the US never formally recognized Texas as a sovereign state because for all intents and purposes Texas is American.
Than, China comes in and says that Texas is not part of the US and is its own country - even if it is de facto. That changes the balance because it went from maybe reconciliation and unification to a never situation.
At that point the US would have to consider a military option to reunify. That's why it's putting them in a tight spot about invading Taiwan or not.
Frankly, I'm hoping the US backs off on this. This is to no one's interest and I highly doubt the US is going to be able to drum up that much international support for anything in Taiwan - maybe Japan?
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2024-18-06
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Explain how a country hypothetically getting taken over cares about international backlash. Edit: you understand the concept of MAD right? ... You're either extremely dumb or a troll.
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Explain how a country hypothetically getting taken over cares about international backlash. Edit: you understand the concept of MAD right? ... You're either extremely dumb or a troll.
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2024-18-06
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It isn't difficult.
Does the United States threaten to invade the United Kingdom and claim England is part of their territory and London is illegitimate since the Americans won the Revolutionary War?
Taiwan is not and has never been part of the PRC.
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It isn't difficult.
Does the United States threaten to invade the United Kingdom and claim England is part of their territory and London is illegitimate since the Americans won the Revolutionary War?
Taiwan is not and has never been part of the PRC.
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2024-18-06
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Give em a break, they read thru the CliffNotes really fast, okay?
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Give em a break, they read thru the CliffNotes really fast, okay?
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2024-18-06
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That's a terrible analogy hahaha. I see where your logic is going but that's a very different issue in terms of the emotional impulse.
That's debatable and honestly not something I care to debate either - people can argue about it till the cows come home for all I care
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That's a terrible analogy hahaha. I see where your logic is going but that's a very different issue in terms of the emotional impulse.
That's debatable and honestly not something I care to debate either - people can argue about it till the cows come home for all I care
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2024-18-06
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♪ In West Taiwan, born and raised
On the playground is where I spent most of my days... ♪
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♪ In West Taiwan, born and raised
On the playground is where I spent most of my days... ♪
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2024-18-06
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2024-17-06
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“Just to eat it’s 1,000 lb liver”
The great white shark liver is absolutely massive - fyi
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“Just to eat it’s 1,000 lb liver”
The great white shark liver is absolutely massive - fyi
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2024-17-06
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You can’t fill a container that’s already full, of themselves. You can’t help someone who doesn’t want it.
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You can’t fill a container that’s already full, of themselves. You can’t help someone who doesn’t want it.
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2024-17-06
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How else can you explain it?
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How else can you explain it?
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2024-17-06
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I’m an actual dumbass that’s what I meant lmao I just had a brain slip
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I’m an actual dumbass that’s what I meant lmao I just had a brain slip
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2024-17-06
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You have died. Restart?
No.
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You have died. Restart?
No.
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2024-17-06
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Buddha himself said that it's supposed to be a philosophy and not a religion. This guy is a fucking scamming piece of shit, same with every other Dalai Lama ever.
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Buddha himself said that it's supposed to be a philosophy and not a religion. This guy is a fucking scamming piece of shit, same with every other Dalai Lama ever.
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2024-17-06
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Feeling bad, mate?
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Feeling bad, mate?
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2024-17-06
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That is part of it, but that’s like that last stage. They do other stuff first to find the area
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That is part of it, but that’s like that last stage. They do other stuff first to find the area
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2024-17-06
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It's not up to them, it's whoever is closest to him.
It's a really weird process.
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It's not up to them, it's whoever is closest to him.
It's a really weird process.
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2024-17-06
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In what western country is it culturally appropriate to tongue kiss family members?
If you have to make shit up to prove your point, then you dont have one.
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In what western country is it culturally appropriate to tongue kiss family members?
If you have to make shit up to prove your point, then you dont have one.
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2024-17-06
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You do you, dude.
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You do you, dude.
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2024-17-06
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Too busy smoochin'
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Too busy smoochin'
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2024-17-06
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I don’t think you have a choice. If he knows how not to, then he needs to share.
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I don’t think you have a choice. If he knows how not to, then he needs to share.
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2024-17-06
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Kidnapping the Pachen Lama gives China a degree of control yeah, because traditionally hes the one who find the next Dalai Lama, so China has a "legitimate" way of picking a successor. Even if the Dalai Lama refuses to reincarnate or something China can always pull him out and make him say "heres the Dalai Lama I found totally by myself".
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Kidnapping the Pachen Lama gives China a degree of control yeah, because traditionally hes the one who find the next Dalai Lama, so China has a "legitimate" way of picking a successor. Even if the Dalai Lama refuses to reincarnate or something China can always pull him out and make him say "heres the Dalai Lama I found totally by myself".
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2024-17-06
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Not really. According to the tradition, he didn't pick the Panchen Lama, he identified the reincarnated Panchen Lama.
If he's still alive, it's still him, wherever he is. If he says he's been reincarnated again and identifies another kid, and then it turns out the current one isn't dead, it could be quite embarrassing.
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Not really. According to the tradition, he didn't pick the Panchen Lama, he identified the reincarnated Panchen Lama.
If he's still alive, it's still him, wherever he is. If he says he's been reincarnated again and identifies another kid, and then it turns out the current one isn't dead, it could be quite embarrassing.
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2024-17-06
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He has more kids tongues to suck.
I’m starting to believe all major organized religions are just cover for kiddie diddlers
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He has more kids tongues to suck.
I’m starting to believe all major organized religions are just cover for kiddie diddlers
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2024-17-06
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> There is even one sect whose ideal rebirth location is in one of the hells, because that is where there is most need for help.
What sect would that be? I'd like to read more.
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> There is even one sect whose ideal rebirth location is in one of the hells, because that is where there is most need for help.
What sect would that be? I'd like to read more.
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2024-17-06
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So they aren’t cheap dates. Got it.
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So they aren’t cheap dates. Got it.
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2024-17-06
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A worm
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A worm
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2024-17-06
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"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and ask a child to suck my tongue and still get reincarnated"
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"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and ask a child to suck my tongue and still get reincarnated"
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2024-17-06
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For real this shit feels like watching a sitcom lol. Almost surreal to remember this is real life we're talking about.
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For real this shit feels like watching a sitcom lol. Almost surreal to remember this is real life we're talking about.
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2024-17-06
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Is this his way of saying, he has no intention of committing suicide at the moment?
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Is this his way of saying, he has no intention of committing suicide at the moment?
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2024-17-06
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The second part of your comment hits the nail on the head. Buddhists don't believe in the Christian sense of souls that move from body to body. The Dalai Lama doesn't talk about reincarnation as if he would be personally reborn. Reincarnation is actually tied to karma, a network of causes and effects as the universe is unfolding itself since the big bang. So when you say that his reincarnation is more closely related to a set of worldly circumstances involving another child, that is literally what the Dalai Lama means. And because ego is an illusion, he is not really the Dalai Lama, but at the same time, all of us are Dalai Lama, since we are all part of this universe and its karmic network.
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The second part of your comment hits the nail on the head. Buddhists don't believe in the Christian sense of souls that move from body to body. The Dalai Lama doesn't talk about reincarnation as if he would be personally reborn. Reincarnation is actually tied to karma, a network of causes and effects as the universe is unfolding itself since the big bang. So when you say that his reincarnation is more closely related to a set of worldly circumstances involving another child, that is literally what the Dalai Lama means. And because ego is an illusion, he is not really the Dalai Lama, but at the same time, all of us are Dalai Lama, since we are all part of this universe and its karmic network.
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2024-17-06
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He’s got a lot of wabi sabi.
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He’s got a lot of wabi sabi.
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2024-17-06
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I'm actually having trouble finding information on this, so it may have been one specific monk rather than an entire sect. The story that I read was about a monk who said he began seeing the Pure Land (one of the highest worlds you can be born into, where everything is peaceful and a Buddha will transmit to you the highest levels of Dharma) while dying, and begged his monks to pray for him to be reborn in hell. There are a number of Pure Land sects, so I am not sure which one in particular held this story.
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I'm actually having trouble finding information on this, so it may have been one specific monk rather than an entire sect. The story that I read was about a monk who said he began seeing the Pure Land (one of the highest worlds you can be born into, where everything is peaceful and a Buddha will transmit to you the highest levels of Dharma) while dying, and begged his monks to pray for him to be reborn in hell. There are a number of Pure Land sects, so I am not sure which one in particular held this story.
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2024-17-06
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Lmao 🤣
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Lmao 🤣
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2024-17-06
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I'm not, have yall seen the state of the world?
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I'm not, have yall seen the state of the world?
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2024-17-06
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I get where he's coming from.
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I get where he's coming from.
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2024-17-06
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Dalaï Lama is playing Ragnarok Online confirmed
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Dalaï Lama is playing Ragnarok Online confirmed
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2024-17-06
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