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Ok but people actually believe that Ukraine going to keep tge land that not going to happen
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I think the people who are in 18-35 age range will do just fine compared to the 40+ year olds who were alive and old enough to remember that era.
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2024-11-08
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The point is russia would have never invaded. Ukraine would be safe as well
Imagine that without war regions on both sides would be safe
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2024-11-08
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Annnnd straight to the front.
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2024-11-08
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If Ukraine fighting like this, they won't be whining that we should be spending that money back home, they'll be demanding we send it to help the war effort to denatizfy Ukraine!
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2024-11-08
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That dude they traded for Brittney Griner? That guy and a thousand more like him. When Putler took over he and his buddies sold off Russias military to line their own pockets. That's pretty much it. It was their start up capital for they're other nefarious shit. Pertty simple.
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My uncle is 60 years old, my brother is 35 years old, no one bothers them. But my neighbor is a hired soldier. He is the only person who fights and whom I know personally. But I have not seen him for 1.5 months. His vacation ended and he left.
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2024-11-08
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My point is losing a war and surving as country is not much of a loss
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2024-11-08
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Don't worry Russians, it's just a tiny special operation.
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2024-11-08
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Don’t need a lot to kill literally millions of people, even if 90% are duds a nuclear exchange would likely kill more people than all of WW2 in a single day.
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2024-11-08
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The size of Russia is the real problem
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2024-11-08
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A lot. You see them washed up all over the place behind the fence in the Jordan valley. Look like metallic boxes of cigarettes.
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Eh, adult me has found out that people float in quicksand and quicksand appearing in kid shows was an meme before memes were a thing.
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I wonder if it would be a viable strategy to start a counter offensive into occupied Ukrainien territory from the Russian side?
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2024-11-08
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Maybe negotiate a territory swap.
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2024-11-08
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Wagner only stopped because of negotiations with their head who's plane then got blown up after.
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2024-11-08
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no one is arguing this. It's nice to hear, but it's also worrying.
Does this give putin an excuse to mobilize more soldiers... sadly yes. Before he could force the ethnic minorities to fight in ukraine but now he has a reason to force native russians to go into war and not get to much backlash.
A similar thing happens to US with the twin towers attack. Before that there was little motivation for war vs Iraq, after that all hell came down.
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2024-11-08
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Ukraines invading Kursk, not Moscow, not whatever the name of somewhere far east, Kursk. Thats not a problem for them.
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This is what I was thinking as well. We obviously don't know the full scale of the incursion and troop numbers, but from what I've seen, the initial push wasn't very big. Once they got control they started rushing in brigades.
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Unlikely. Too many negative possibilities for Russia if Putin tosses a nuke.
Remember that Russia doesn't have as many tech capabilities or engineers to update and maintain their equipment, and a massive brain drain left with the beginning of the invasion. As well, we've now seen the state of the Russian military, and how much was siphoned to ogilarchs and top brass.
Who's to say the nukes are there? Or if they work? Would you take a chance at detonation within the silo? Or the nuke not flying to spec and falling on Perm instead? And all with the guarantee of a US response that the Russian military can't answer.
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I can see this ending with Russia nuking their own territory to get rid of the Ukrainian invasion force, then claiming that it was Ukraine's own nukes, and using it as an excuse to nuke Ukraine.
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It's possible however there's an argument to be said that the benefits of doing so do not outweigh looking like mugs to both the international community and the locals who suddenly find themselves wondering if accepting the pilfered washing machines with "Made in Ukraine" stamped on the back was a great idea.
The issue is the longer it goes on the worse it ultimately looks. If there's a guy sitting in your front room drinking your beers you kinda need to do something about it then and there. If instead you jump on telegram to complain about it, saying you'll deal with it when you're ready... it stops looking less like you're waiting to remove him and more like you can't.
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2024-11-08
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They have 10000 men there, it'll be fine. No difference guarding the border in Ukraine or russia.
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2024-11-08
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That's been their strategy the whole war. Slow retreats that make Russia pay enormously for every mile.
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2024-11-08
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Yeah, but you need to remember, if Russia doesn't pull a lot of troops from other areas to deal with this, Ukraine could, that's the threat Ukraine is abusing, if Putin doesn't redirect troops they could stay there indefinitely.
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2024-11-08
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If Ukraine was in NATO, Russia wouldn't have gone inside Ukraine to begin with.
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2024-11-08
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To quote Gandhi, "OUR WORDS ARE BACKED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"
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2024-11-08
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Thrs because he couldn't realsticly hold any positions of cities he tried to take over. It was a pointless coup tht wouldn't have worked
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2024-11-08
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No one has the unemployed people for this. Conscription does this, and sadly if Ukraine can do it so can Russia. The mobilization utilization is nowhere near as close between the 2.. Russia has a lot more citizens to mobilize before they reach ukraine levels.
We're nowhere near to ww2 lvl and if russia didn't collapse with that it will not with this.
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2024-11-08
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Surprise military draft in the area!
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Which is why the complete reversal of that strategy on display here is hopefully supplemented by a very clear game plan. Ukraine isn't entering this land with developed defences that they can slowly retreat from, nor do they have many avenues to retreat to - they're going to have to make do with what they bring. Russia will have opportunities to cut their retreat every step of the way.
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2024-11-08
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Women could stop this war easy. No pussy until all boys are home on the right side of the border.
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I think it's great they can finally start getting rid of the native vatniks in that case. It will be felt tenfold by the general populace of Russia who Putin has assured would not need to get involved.
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“We’re gonna be Shit Kings Randy”
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"Have your heard of the sensations that's sweeping the nation"
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You’re talking hypotheticals about equipment you have no idea about - none of us do. Who’s to say they aren’t maintained to a high level?
Yes we have seen old RU equipment being used and some of it broken, UA has been sent old stuff from the US too, I’m sure not all of that is perfect, however it won’t be paraded around social media, at least the western side of it.
If a T-34 came down the road at you, you wouldn’t be like ‘nah it’s old, it’ll fail’ you’d fucking book it..
If even 10% of the 1,700 deployed nuclear warheads they have worked, the world would be over.
Ignorance is biggest contributing factor to failure, go in expecting shit and meet anything above it and you’ll be stunned.
Just my 2 cents, have a good day.
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And not a single one would reach it’s target. West know what’s air defense is doing
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2024-11-08
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Sorry I didn't mean the whole thing is ad hoc or the like but rather "not planned" in the sense that Ukraine probably thought they'd get a wee dig in, burn some shit, cause havoc, force Russia to redeploy some troops and then get out before it all went to shit and the troops being recalled turn up in force. Basically just a chevauchée to get some egg on Russia's face. But now they're in..... and there's no real reaction worth a shit to make them feel they need to run before it gets too hot. Like the end of Finding Nemo they've done the thing... "now what"
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There are a few Ukrainians who remember Holodomor under Stalin and Lysenko, can the misery of the 90's be compared to this?
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...because they can definitely have sex while their men are hundreds of kilometers away...
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Am I sure? Nope I am not sure because I have no connections to pass on information like that lol.
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If they did they would have deployed them already most likely
Plus honestly I don't think Russia has the infantry equipment to supply many more mass mobilizations, I'm already seeing frontline troops being supplies with wooden plates for their plate carriers and such.
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True but to reframe it, each one that slips through has a 90% chance of not detonating. Still not a great position to be in but dramatically better than the baseline
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If this force is only a few thousand, why is Russia struggling to push it back? Wouldn’t they be outnumbered and outgunned in a short time period?
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We are living in an Ace Combat game, I stg.
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Probably not.
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I'd scorch earth that shit and keep moving. Fortifying, in my opinion, would be a death sentence. I'd go Lawrence of Arbia on their a$$e$.
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The Ukrainian army may be disrupting day to day life but at least it’s not brutally gang raping, slaughtering, looting, and torturing Russian civilians. The Russian’s are lucky their own troops aren’t there.
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2024-12-08
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It's pretty crazy how Russia has all of those natural resources and so much culture they could export and yet fumbled all of their opportunities due to lack of spine to actually come together.
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2024-12-08
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Well now they can pay the price.
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2024-12-08
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I dont think AFU would make a drive for Moscow, but I think it is seriously on the cards as a possibility. Look how far the Wagner group got. Once you pass the initial defense lines, there are no defenses. The AFU already passed both lines of defense so now everything in russia is open for the taking with no real resistance until the russians can assemble a resistance force and mount a defense. Moscow probably wont be in the cross hairs, but other cities closer to the border will be. I wouldnt be surprised if Belgorad gets captured within a month.
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This is really the thing about a lot of Russians culturally, most of them are absolutely oblivious to how they are perceived outside their own countries or how their governments actions reflect on them.
''It's only natural that the big eat the small'', is a notion you can pick up often from even the supposedly educated Russians. A lot of them see domination as a birth right. It's something that makes one proud to be a Russian.
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The latter might pull a wagner as well.
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Truck leaves the neighbourhood, drives to the nearest barracks. People are unloaded, the men given a rifle(but no ammo yet) and the women given a soup ladle. Kids are taken out back, where a school is purported to be, never to be heard from again.
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No, this isnt quite accurate either. The reason the russians have been losing ~1,000 soldiers a day is because they conduct human wave attacks and use infantry in the open to attack fortified positions. The Ukrainian response is to use field artillery. Over 70% of the russian casualties on the battlefield are from indirect fire (mortars, artillery, rockets). Combine this with the utter disregard for the value of human life by russians and you have a recipe for extremely high casualty rates.
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Wow, the bootlicker bots shilling for putin can sometimes sound measured. Pathetic and awful, but better than the usual straight up trolls.
This is great for the world, Russia is the aggressor, and they need to suffer.
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2024-12-08
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In putin's Russia, front goes to you.
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2024-12-08
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nothing hits like oppressors getting beaten by their own sheer fucking hubris.
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2024-12-08
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Language can change very fast, it tends to be a product of the culture rather than the other way round. English used to have a distinction between you/thou, the same way Russian still has that distinction, but as the culture changed that was dropped.
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2024-12-08
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Russia won’t surrender and Ukraine will never ever recover
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2024-12-08
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Weirdly, most of the Mongolian population is in china (Inner Mongolia) and there’s only 2million in Mongolia proper. They would be stretched mighty thin, even after arming toddlers and grandmas.
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You have to remember that Russia and Ukraine are not fighting on symmetric grounds though.
1. Ukraine is the defender - Ukraine, as a nation, is quite literally fighting for its' life.
2. Ukraine doesn't have to worry about additional enemies besides Russia (and Belarus which is Russia by this point) they have pretty much no need to defend their borders - their entire resource pool can be invested in the war. This is unlike Russia which has many enemies - almost all directly bordering, and most are from their own creation.
3. Russia is huge - while this makes invading and conquering Russia completely near impossible it makes defending Russia very resource consuming.
As aforementioned - most of Russia's enemies are directly bordering it, and none of them has any desire to conquer Russia, even if they could they wouldn't march on Moscow since it doesn't make any sense for them to do it, what they want (either rightfully or not, mostly rightfully and lawfully) are pieces of land that directly border them - this a huge complication for Russia, and many of these territories are very spread apart, moving men, gear and munitions is a time consuming process.
Make no mistake - a multi-front war for Russia that they didn't directly start now would also be a global problem since a cornered Russia is a dangerous, if the brass woild actually believe the state is in existential crisis that becomes a global problem.
The actual best case scenario is a coup resulting in a government willing to negotiate, end hostilities and back off. The concept of unconditional surrender for a nuclear power is non-sense, and this would likely mean no justice for Ukraine either, sadly.
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Maybe they don’t want them in NATO because NATOS founding mission is to counter Russia
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according to a guys dream i read, thats how ww3 starts, is with russia nuking an empty area, just saying hey, back the fuck up, and then it goes from there
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I promise you that this incursion is an act of desperation to like you said divert Russian resources to stop it but will ultimately have a negligible impact on the war
You are a victim of wishful thinking
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Isn't the idea of a Russian identity based on Muscovy conquering, dominating, and exploiting other, related Slavic peoples and then conquering, dominating, and exploiting a broader and broader swath of land and peoples?
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2024-12-08
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Well, it has been trying.
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2024-12-08
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It’s clearly a last card, if they could have advanced somewhere else in the disputed regions they would have
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Ever since Mongols razed the previous nobility (and even before that), Russians have always been under a "strong man" rule to the extreme to the point where it is a bit of a Stockholm syndrom for the whole population. They think now they need a strong man and that democracy doesnt work for them (they tried in the 90s and perceived it as chaos and "everyone losing" and Russia being downgraded from word power to maybe regional power at best - so now the most general public view the "strong man" model as preferential.)
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Via Belgium.
And the German empire did the same 14 years prior.
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The irony of that would be hilarious
R: I'm going to take your land and people
U: yeah na
Uno reverve card
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From 2022
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-bucha-killings-atrocities-condemnation/31784634.html
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Salami tactics. Just in reverse
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Russia behaves like Russia because of Russians.
Put up a wall, nothing goes in or out until they evolve.
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2024-12-08
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I only knew that because I watched a YT documentary on it the other day.
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FOR THE HORDE
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If you grow up in a monochromatic world, it's hard to imagine other colors.
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2024-12-08
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We're in trouble even if we do that. It never ends there.
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*Hopefully the backup generators actually work and they actually have fuel.*
It's Russia mate, we can never be fully sure what works there. At this point, I'm beginning to think that their Nuclear Warhead count is grossly exaggerated.
Russia is built on lies and HEAVY state propaganda. I can't wait for that evil empire to collapse.
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This from a brave man who has his ass in a safe place? Why don't you try to make a difference? Exactly! You're a private on the living room couch.
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Exactly what I said. Russia doesn’t want them joining NATO because they’re harder to invade that way. NATO’s existence is an obstacle to Russias imperialist goals
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>American forces have taken parts of Sonora and Chihuahua, but lost 60,000 American troops in the process.
I think those are in context of Bahmut and Avdivka where Russia lost 60k... Each.
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He went to a farm in Siberia up river. Not sure if that's actually better, though.
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2024-12-08
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Crazy war shit involving Russia during the Olympics yet again
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I kinda think we should invade from the Alaska side. While the getting is good
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2024-12-08
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We have to be honest with ourselves eventually. It’s not really an invasion at this point, more of an annexation.
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2024-12-08
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At this point all they have going for them is fear of them using the bomb. That's it.
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I mean, yes. But comparing an army which took over all of Europe with Ukraine, they wanted to occupy within 3 days, are very different starting points for such action.
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it *seems* like maybe a 3-4:1 death rate is closer to what russia is seeing with their poor medical services and the nature of this conflict.
if the numbers are anything like reality anyway, 150k ish dead and 450k ish wounded or a bit worse.
but like you say, we will never really know.
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Fuck, thinking of what that means for the Korean DMZ
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if we take populations into account the us has ~2.3x russia population. meaning instead of 600k casualties it would equate to more like 1.3 million. and with the *potentially* more realistic russian death rate of 3 or 4 to 1 instead of 10 to one that would mean something more like 350k deaths.
tho of course we cant know for sure how accurate that death rate is nor is population % always the best way to compare things, but it can help put some things into perspective more.
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So much for that NATO "aggression" as one of the reasons to invade Ukraine lmao
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2024-12-08
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Putin gets the taste of his own medicine. Hopefully, losses will be low.
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What is this is a shaping operation with the real goal being crimea?
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It’s going to be a controversial take. But that’s the same way most countries view themselves too.
Canada thinks it’s the most polite country.
Americans think they’re the best country.
And really, it’s just shitty people everywhere mixed in with the good ones. Where you’re born has very little to do with whether you’re a good or bad person. It just changes whether you have to struggle to survive, or struggle to not be bored.
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This stuff is insane. I remember Prigzhn (forgot how to spell his name) was so easily overcoming Russian defenses and could have seriously challenged the government if he wanted to. Ukraine is now easily pushing pass Russian defenses and could really do some damage to Russia if they were allowed to. Only reason they don’t is probably because NATO doesn’t want them to escalate too much. Russia honestly might nuke Kyiv if it risks Putin losing power
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Even though it was a failed coup, Prigzhn was successful in his intial actions and he exposed a weakness in the Russians defence. It wouldn't surprise me if the Ukranians where planning this since then. Also, if the Ukranians are thinking well if the Russian Offensive is weak and we have held them off for over two years, well, their defensive positon might be weak also. I'm starting to think the Ukrainians are not to be messed with. They are the true underdogs.
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russians support him
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