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I think regardless of the outcome you should be commended for at least trying, however low your chance of success may be, to work it out between you between involving the police.
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2024-24-07
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Yes, he meant footage. Right now, the goal is to keep this from escalating between myself and my neighbor. I’m going to make amends and leave him my cell and a loaf of fresh baked bread. We all have to live together, so I’d rather not have police or the law involved at all.
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2024-24-07
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Unless the LL has clear proof of who is at fault though, the only thing they could do it remove both parties
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2024-24-07
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You mean it was auto cat rectal?
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2024-24-07
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It can get pretty complicated. Thank you for your input. I’m going to avoid contacting police at all. I’ve decided to make an effort to keep things calm and make amends here. My neighbor is feeling attacked that I asked him to stop slamming doors, and he’s been doing MORE of that in an effort to retaliate. If my landlord won’t help, it’ll be up to me.
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2024-24-07
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Well, thank you. I’m trying my absolute best. But talking has to be stop no. 1 before police are involved. And at that point, it’s not worth it. He can slam all he wants, I don’t want a 30 days notice for asking for quiet right now :/
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2024-24-07
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I am month to month, sadly. Maybe you’re right. Time to find a new place to live.
I worry about involving police, I don’t want this to get worse. And it seems like, if I do that, this landlord will issue both of us that notice. I’ve decided to handle this with a fresh baked loaf of a bread and a sincere apology to my neighbor. This isn’t worth the trouble. (I’ll even pay for a door stop)
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2024-24-07
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That makes zero sense. There is no reason why they would have to remove both parties. They are just saying that (and bluffing I guarantee) so that OP shuts up and stops causing him inconvenience.
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2024-24-07
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This situation may be different, but if two tenants were fighting and it continued and LL did not have a clear picture of who was the aggressor, then what other option would they have?
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2024-24-07
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Fresh bread? Oh boy! Bring Irish butter too!
Hey, quality door closers are expensive. Have you asked for an annual lease?
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2024-24-07
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Since you are month to month, it really isn't an eviction but more of a non renewal I would think.
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2024-24-07
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It’s a predicament. And one not worth fussing over if he’s just going to boot people out for things like this. Some else got the same lecture over dog poop in the yard last month.
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2024-24-07
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I haven’t. And honestly I don’t know if I want one. I can afford a bigger place right now.
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2024-24-07
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There's no fighting. There's a complaint about noise at 2am which is going to bother anyone who occupied that unit, and the other tenant responded aggressively.
So maybe kick out the guy who's clearly the issue here? Or tell him to not make so much noise? I do not understand the obtusity of your replies.
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2024-24-07
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Cool. I haven't had fresh bread since '88 😕
But I'm happy for him😊
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2024-24-07
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Cool. I haven't had fresh bread since '88 😕
But I'm happy for him😊
Edit: at least you can take your time now..
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2024-24-07
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It’s crazy. This should not be your problem because you complained. Your offer if civility is a good one. Trouble shoot padding the door or sticking the hinge. And most importantly call tenants rights and find out what to do when threatened with lease severing after placing a noise complaint against another unit.
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2024-24-07
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You talked to the door slammer. Now it’s on the landlord. Google “right to quiet enjoyment”. That’s not your problem to solve, it’s the landlord’s duty despite what he’s telling you.
When the unbalanced door slammer hurts another tenant, the landlord will wish he had done something.
And as others have said here, start looking for another place to live.
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2024-24-07
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I literally had this exact same issue a year ago, i removed the metal gate that the tenant kept slamming every morning and no more issue. Same tenant later got evicted because he was didn't pay rent... so usually there is a correlation. Call his bluff and ask if he wants to evict two tenants or just install a doorstop. Pretty ridiculous in this instance, but a lot of times there are issues people need to work out and stop running to the landlord for. This is one that the landlord should get involved in after you have made a couple attempts to remedy the situation.
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2024-24-07
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I agree with you, and I know I have that right. But I’m being told by this landlord that’ll he serve me notice to vacate if I pursue this any further. It doesn’t feel worth it. It’s becoming a ‘pick your battles’ thing for me.
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2024-24-07
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This all feels unhinged…but I’m going to make peace and let it go. I’m hearing he can serve me notice (I’m month to month) for no reason at all, and this just isn’t worth it. I teach 7 days a week, and I’m in school 4 mornings a week and literally can’t deal with this level of weirdness anymore. I just had no idea that I could be the one who pays the price for asking for help after trying myself.
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2024-24-07
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Call tenants rights…is that an organization?
And thank you. Right now is “keep the peace” for me. I wanted none of this to happen, but if I continue to ask this dude to be quieter he’ll continue to lose his mind.
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2024-24-07
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I’ll make you some bread!! I’ll even send it to you!
(And you’ve done more to deserve it😂)
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2024-24-07
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Yeah I get that. And the landlord is probably afraid to give the door slammer a notice to vacate. As a month to month tenant, your state dictates how much notice he must give you - make sure he complies with that.
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2024-24-07
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Hopefully it doesn’t go that far. I’m just going to pacify for now. I want *none* of this. I work full time and I’m in school full time, so energy is better spent elsewhere 😂
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2024-24-07
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Yeah good luck. Michigan is NOT tenant friendly.
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2024-24-07
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I’m not being obtuse at all. If it’s the way you described then it should be cut and dry.
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2024-24-07
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I think it is to any reasonable person.
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2024-24-07
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Most landlords probably would be preferred to be contacted before the police get involved and definitely before there's a confrontation, so I wouldn't say your advice was sound there. And the bit about the landlord not being a therapist is condescending and a wild misconstruel of the situation and the responsibility of a landlord in general.
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2024-24-07
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Like me I was evicted for
Complaining the neighbor was doing and selling drugs. Turns out he was the landlords supplier.
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2024-24-07
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You're not going to have much energy, though, if your sleep keeps getting interrupted. 🙁 Sorry you're dealing with this.
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2024-24-07
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lol harsh. One of those
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2024-24-07
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This hits on 2 of the very few protections tenants actually have: right to quiet enjoyment (which the LL is obligated to provide to a reasonable degree as part of habitability), and no retaliatory evictions. He's shirking the first and proactively admitting to the second. What a dick.
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2024-24-07
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I suggest googling lease termination laws in your area rather than taking reddit advice on that. It should be clearly written out for month-month. People are crazy, best bet is to be strategic and not poke the bear in the face.
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2024-24-07
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This will depend on where you are (as in housing availability), but find a new place you are willing to move to with a few units so they won't be full. Then you can involve the police, knowing you have a place to go if it comes down to it.
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2024-24-07
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Honestly- this sounds like the move. It sucks but bringing in police will rarely make anything better, and (as we keep seeing) can often make everything worse for everyone.
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2024-24-07
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This doesn’t seem…worth it. I teach 7 days a week and I’m doing my masters at the same time. I feel like moving over someone who slams doors is just too much work right now. But thank you.
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2024-24-07
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Bread. Amends. I don’t need anything else on my plate.
‘Cept bread.
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2024-24-07
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I’m looking into those laws. I’m speaking with a lawyer after work. I was hoping maybe someone with legal experience might be hanging around. But it doesn’t seem like it’d be legal to just boot someone out for emailing about noise…but I could be wrong.
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2024-24-07
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Which tenants have the dogs that go crazy? You realize that the dogs are an equal issue regarding the noise. The dogs should be trained to be less reactive.
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2024-24-07
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That’s pretty much what I thought too. I’m just keeping a record of everything and staying quiet for now. I don’t need this to get out of hand.
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2024-24-07
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You’re right. But, it’ll only cause me to expend further energy, and I don’t want any more feathers ruffled.
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2024-24-07
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We all do. Neighbors above me, and myself. Dogs react, but it’s not unreasonable that noise like that shouldn’t be happening at 2 am.
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2024-24-07
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It’s not the landlord’s job to police the behavior of tenants. Call the police for this.
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2024-24-07
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I feel I’m entitled to quiet at 2 am, and calling the police is a rapid escalation for slamming doors. I’m mostly curious about being able to evict someone for asking for quiet. But thank you!
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2024-24-07
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This is not typically lawyer land (at least where i live). Usually there is a tenant board, the laws are pretty straight forward and you can be self represented quite easily. Typically you just cite the tenant law to the landlord if he says something different and go from there. If he escalates you have different options via the tenant board. Some states are very tenant friendly some not so much, keep that in mind.
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2024-24-07
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I’ve heard that mentioned a couple times. I’ll google and see what tenant board is around me. Michigan isn’t super tenant friendly.
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2024-24-07
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Why ask for advice if you’re just going to go lick somone’s boots instead?
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2024-24-07
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I’m licking someone’s boots by trying to repair the situation?
Listen man. I’m a teacher. I teach full time, 7 days a week, and I’m in school full time four of those days as well.
I don’t have the energy to bring police in, I just want to know what my rights as a tenant are here with his threats. It doesn’t sound like I want or need your advice.
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2024-24-07
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>I’m going to avoid contacting police at all... If my landlord won’t help, it’ll be up to me.
That's your choice, of course... but then you'd better learn to live with the door slamming, I'm afraid.
Someone in your position has essentially 3 routes to a solution:
1- Hoping the offender finds reason, with or without your help.
2- Your landlord stepping in.
3- The police.
From your comments, it sounds like option 1 is out of the question. Your landlord clearly doesn't want to help, so there goes option 2. And if you don't want to engage the police, well... you're kind of out of (legal) options.
I suppose there is a version of option 1 where you are extra "persuasive" towards your neighbor, but it's something that will likely backfire and just make things worse.
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2024-24-07
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It could all backfire. And I don’t have the energy for this. If I can’t get the landlord to do his job, I’ll try to make amends.
My question here was the legality of kicking me out for involving him. Not the door slamming, but thank you.
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2024-24-07
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Absolutely brain dead landlord. “Hey one of my tenants has helped me out by informing me of a reoccurring problem tenant, clearly I should kick both of them out.” It’s terrifying that someone like that has control over people lives.
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2024-24-07
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That was my feeling. I didn’t expect that response, but it sounds like he CAN do that. So. I’m sort of out of options unless I want a legal battle over this.
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2024-24-07
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>Part of me would just like to talk to my neighbor…I’m sure he’s a reasonable guy
No offense but *what on earth* gave you that impression?
Guy is "slamming doors at 2-3 am and over and over". You asked him to stop and he showed up "angry and pounding on \[your\] door at 1 am", and slamming the doors even more.
That's not the behavior of a reasonable person. I applaud your commitment to finding a civilized resolution (I mean that), but I honestly think you are giving this person way, way more deference than they deserve, Most importantly, I would be really surprised if it worked... but I truly hope it does. Good luck!
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2024-24-07
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I don’t know him. He’s being an asshole, yes. But maybe he’s not. But my getting kicked out for asking for assistance here isn’t worth it. Police would make this worse. So, I’ll go the other route and be kind.
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2024-24-07
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You are being way too needy. Call the cops if there is an issue. You are asking your landlord to be the babysitter. File police reports and provide them to landlord. Give him something to work with.
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2024-24-07
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Call the police for slamming doors?
I’ve already spoken with this neighbor 3 times. It seems like the owner of the building (where I PAY for quiet) is the next step.
I’m not asking for help with the neighbor, or the police. I’m asking for any info on legality regarding evicting someone for asking for support from management. That seems illegal, or at the very least retaliatory.
If you have advice there, feel free to share. If not, I don’t NEED info on anything else :)
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2024-24-07
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>You realize that the dogs are an equal issue regarding the noise
Except for the little pesky detail that one neighbor is the **cause** of all other issues, including the dogs barking.
You'd think that'd be patently obvious, but here we are...
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2024-24-07
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I’m not gonna pretend that I know the law regarding it, he probably can, but morally speaking he shouldn’t be allowed to. You literally are getting harassed by one of his tenants and he just doesn’t care. Like there has to be a certain amount of responsibility you should accept if you have people living in a building you own.
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2024-24-07
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Sounds like you’re on mtm. He can give 30 days notice for any reason just like you can give him 30 days and leave for any reason. Doesn’t sound like he’s trying to evict you. Sue him for non-renewing you and see how it goes. If youd help him out and get a stack of police reports he can evict the other guy for violating quiet enjoyment lease term. Right now it’s one tenant’s word against another’s. I wouldn’t know who to believe either. Especially if the complainer is refusing to help me out/call the cops.
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2024-24-07
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leave. let the landlord sue. make sure u have evidence of reporting to cops
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2024-24-07
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I don’t believe he has grounds to remove you unless you are month to month, then he can just end your lease without any real reason. A good landlord will address the issue and confront the trouble tenants, but people nowadays are so sue happy that most landlords won’t even try to resolve problems. You could contact HUD and explain the problem to them. They can help out a little bit, by enforcing fair house regs, as long as you can prove the noise after “quiet hours”.
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2024-24-07
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You could just beat their ass. Also, The land lord wants to 30-day notice both of you because this is a stupid problem that is a waste of time for literally everyone involved…
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2024-24-07
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Just 🙏✡️✝️ and where nothing rots. See you topside. I will be in the back north forty with 2 little black dogs and a longer haired chihuahua. It is difficult to say more in the public.🥰🎤🫳🐾🐾🐾🐾
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2024-24-07
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✡️✝️🙏🤷🏾♂️🤦🏽♂️🫳🎤🐾🐾 I just love people whom are kind.
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2024-24-07
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It stinks when people aren’t kind to me, so thank you :)
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2024-24-07
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I think you lost me. Feel free to DM.
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2024-24-07
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Violence sounds like a good idea…
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2024-24-07
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I am month to month, so that’s why this doesn’t seem worth it any longer.
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2024-24-07
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And if the dogs barked at a door being closed at a reasonable level? Then who is to blame? What is the threshold between noise being acceptable and it being the fault of the barking dogs making the noise and the noise being unreasonable and it’s not the dogs’ fault?
I bet OP’s dogs bark at things that aren’t this one neighbor slamming the door and it causes all of the dogs in the building to bark. Where is the expectation for quiet then?
You may be surprised that dogs can be trained not to bark.
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2024-25-07
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You have a right to quiet enjoyment of your home. If your landlord would rather threaten to evict you vs have a conversation with the tenant that is causing these disturbances, then, if you’re financially able, I would begin looking for a new place to live. If you’re on a month to month lease, then you could simply serve your landlord with your own 30 day notice and move on. As for your initial question-can my landlord serve me notice just for bringing this to his attention? If you’re on a month to month lease, he can serve 30 days notice without providing any explanation..so unfortunately yes. Even more reason to move on if you have a landlord that is completely irrational.
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2024-25-07
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Exactly my thoughts. Thank you.
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2024-25-07
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Do you have a lease or are you month to month? Did you ask the asshole to stop being an asshole in a normal tone of voice or did it devolve into a screaming match.
If someone is acting like a psycho always tell the owner never bother to talk to them it never works. If they weren't a psycho they wouldn't be acting like one.
If you are month to month he likely can give you notice. If you have a lease he can't. Either way such endeavors often take at least a few months during which time you would have to deal with the psycho. Don't communicate AT ALL to the psycho but do keep complaining literally every time he does it to the landlord respectfully via email and document it.
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2024-25-07
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I’m MTM sadly. I’ve spoken to the neighbor 3 times, and then brought it to the landlords attention (although I asked him months ago to install a door stop)
This isn’t a situation I can win without a legal battle.
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2024-25-07
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You can't call the cops on someone being noisy earlier. They can't even issue a citation based on your statement that the person was noisy earlier. They will show up hours later and tell you nicely to fuck off.
Hurr durr hurr durr my neighbor was slamming his door really loud 3 hours ago when I called hurr durr hurr durr. Do you even hear yourself?
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2024-25-07
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Love ne ver fails. You are golden. Apologies I can't talk right
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2024-25-07
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It is literally his job to prevent tenants from ruining the quiet enjoyment of the property they are paying for. Whereas there are noise ordinances and the cops may well shut down a loud party you can't meaningfully tell them that your neighbor was really loud earlier and have them issue a citation based on your word.
Cops have thousands of other people with more serious problems than your shit and they aren't going to staff your problem whatsoever and for good reason. Meanwhile a mom and pop landlord has on average 2-4 properties and each fucking tenant agrees they wont fucking disturb the other fucking tenants.
That lease violation is not only absolutely in the landlords purview not dealing with it will make it impossible for him to keep tenants and will directly cost him thousands of dollars.
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2024-25-07
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Slamming doors wakes up dog and man and it's pretty natural that it makes them bark. Most people figure out how not to do that at 2AM
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2024-25-07
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If the dog barks at normal sounds at expected levels for 2AM then it is 100% the owners fault people go in and out. If they are SLAMMING the door at 2AM its 100% the slammers fault. You act like this is complicated.
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2024-25-07
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Firstly you would have a lot more protection with an actual lease anywhere. Second you would have more protection in a more solidly blue state.
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2024-25-07
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You have tenant rights to quiet enjoyment of your abode. In your lease it should say that somewhere. Your landlord is breaching the contract by not addressing and resolving the issue. Maybe get a lawyer or consultation
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2024-25-07
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Thank you, I will.
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2024-25-07
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Good job. Just don’t get walked on. And eff that landlord for talking about a notice when you handled this pretty responsibly.
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2024-25-07
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Thank you, but I’ve spoken with a lawyer and this would be retaliation. I’ll just have to take care of this myself.
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2024-25-07
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No reasonable neighbor comes banging on your door at 1am.
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Police will not make it worse. It will actually give you the paperwork and evidence for the LL to evict the other tenant.
As for giving you a 30 day notice…. You’re under a lease and he would have to evict you through the courts with cause in order to break your lease. It is an empty threat.
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This is what the police are for….. your refusal to engage with the authorities is what is going to make this situation worse.
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If I have police show up, this landlord is going to take it out on me. Wrong or not, I can’t handle that right now. I don’t want police here for door slamming. It doesn’t sound like I have recourse or protection here. I can get fucked at a moments notice and this isn’t worth it. Thank you.
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I’m month to month. He can evict for no reason or any reason.
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2024-25-07
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That's a neighbor I would move away from, especially if I'm month to month.
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That sounds nice and easy.
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Nah fuck that guy. Do what ever you have to do to get him to stop. I had a roommate like this and I almost lost my job because I couldn’t get more than 3 hours of sleep a night.
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Hi all,
I recently moved into a new apartment and have been having an issue with my bedroom. For context, I live in Wisconsin, in a medium sized city. The apartment complex was built in the mid 1990s and is reasonably priced for the area and the size. The owners are not slumlords by any means, but they probably also do not make too much of an effort to maintain buildings beyond what is necessary. I understand that is apartments get older, there is more upkeep, and therefore, they are probably spending more money. My appliances would not be described as anywhere near new, or energy efficient lol. My apartment itself is wonderful. I have an office and a bedroom and a large main living area. The bathroom connects to my bedroom and also the living area. The only amenity that I wish I had was a washer and dryer in unit, but there is laundry on every floor, and I am fortunate that it is right next to me (more on that in a minute).
The problem that I am having is that since moving in, the cigarette smoke from one of my neighbors smoking in their unit has infiltrated my bedroom. We have done so much to mitigate this. It is only in my bedroom, occasionally it will waft into the bathroom. My partner and I removed the baseboard and found a gap between the outer wall and the floor, where much of the scent was concentrated. We filled it with a siliconized caulk, and I also caulked around the window to help seal it up. I think it’s important to note that it is active cigarette smoke, if that makes sense. It is not smoke that has been in the apartment and like sunk into walls or carpet. We were going to work on the the shared wall next (and the crack in the corner where the outside wall and the shared wall join), we have placed weather foam in and around the outlets to keep it from seeping in that way as well. I air out as much as possible when the weather is decent and the air quality is good. I have two good air purifiers running in my bedroom. It is likely coming from the people next to me. My issue is that it has not gotten any better. My bedroom is pretty much unusable. I have asthma and have had an asthma attack about three times since moving in three weeks ago. I am often woken up by the smell of cigarettes. I just contracted Covid and I have been sleeping on the couch in my living room because it is hard for me to breathe in my bedroom or get any kind of sleep. In Wisconsin, it is prohibited to smoke in common areas, such as hallways and basements and garages. People are technically allowed to smoke in their apartments. In reviewing the lease agreement. I don’t believe that there was a clause that said you could not smoke in your apartment. The hallway often reeks like smoke, and my theory that it is my neighbor on the same floor is reinforced because the, laundry room is between the two of us and it also reeks. So much so that the old dryer that is in there is also now imparting the smoke smell into my clothing when I dry it.
The enjoyment of my apartment won’t trump the enjoyment of their apartment so I believe we are at an impasse on that. Meaning I don’t believe they will be forced to quit smoking in their apartment. I have not spoken to them because I’m not really sure what to say in that regard either. I am in a building of folks who are 55 years and older. For a long time, I’m sure this entire apartment building had people who were smoking in their apartments. Again, there are no issues in my office or my other living areas, it is concentrated to that bedroom. I want to be able to approach my landlord, but I am worried that they are going to say that’s just how it is. And that they don’t have any recourse. Because this does greatly affect my health, I’m not sure that there are any other resources or suggestions that people could make that might be able to help me. I have read a lot of Reddit posts, and I have searched the Internet, and it feels like we’ve done all the right things so far to try to mitigate the smell, it just keeps coming through. Any suggestions on this would be welcome, if you have an idea for the apartment itself, or how to approach my landlord. As is the case in most places right now, it is very difficult to find affordable housing in a good neighborhood. I truly love this apartment aside from this, and do not want to break my lease.
My apologies for the length of this post, I wanted to try to get as much information in the initial post as possible. I hope that I’ve gotten everything. I am happy to answer any questions. I checked my lease one more time before posting, and it is just a standard Wisconsin rental agreement, so no explicit information on smoking, other than to abide by local, state, and federal laws. The state statute in Wisconsin that prohibits smoking in common areas was passed in 2010. There are signs all over the building to not smoke in common areas.
I also apologize for any spelling errors or grammatical errors, I am doing voice to text on my iPad.
Thank you all in advance, and thank you for taking the time to read my post.
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2024-24-07
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I don't know if the weather in your area allows, but try positive pressure in your apartment and bedroom. Meaning, draw in air from outside the apartment - creating a positive pressure - which will "push" air out through cracks/doorways/windows.
So an example would be - drawing air from a window with a window fan. This will cause air to be pushed out of your apartment - effectively creating an air barrier from the cracks in the wall between you and neighboring apartments.
If you do the reverse, for example - "blowing out" air from a window into the outside air - you will "suck in" air from other openings - like the cracks between you and your neighboring apartments.
This is a bandaid solution, of course, but could get you immediate relief while you see if your management will accomodate long term solutions for you.
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2024-24-07
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Stop tarrying and tell your landlord. Smoke damage is a real thing and they might care more than you think.
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I'd talk to your neighbors to see if their smoking is the cause, such as when they smoke.
Could it be just smokey air trapped in the voids?
See if there are any vertical gaps that may connect their airspace with yours.
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My neighbor smokes every ~15 minutes at the bottom of our shared stairs so I can't open my bedroom window at all. The living room is on the other side of the building so I can get some fresh air from there. I smoked for 15 years and quit 3 years ago so it bothers me pretty bad to be around it. I feel your pain.
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Hi All,
I am entering into a six-month fixed term room rental with a new landlord in a new city following a new job opportunity. The landlord shared the following draft rental contract:
https://imgur.com/a/u3fV6T8
This is a flatshare in England, and I am renting an ensuite room (includes bathroom) £695 PCM all bills included (although there is minor separate charge for using washing machine and dryer / £2 total per use about which landlord has informed me and I am ok with that charge).
One particular clause (page 6) in the contract caught my attention:
“Ventilate and heat your Room and the Property sufficiently to prevent problems caused by condensation and excessive moisture. In the event that patches of damp form on the walls or ceilings due to your breach of this clause you are responsible for removing the marks and taking action (not involving work to the fabric or structure of the Property) to prevent the problem occurring again.”
My new room has a grand total of one window, only the top part of it opens, and even that does not open fully (more like opens 90 degrees). I can keep window reasonably open but other than that not sure what else I can do. Also the heating for the rooms are together controlled by the landlord, not sure how I can impact heating level even though the clause references heating. Also what does “and the Property” mean? I may be responsible for my room but how am I responsible for the whole building if that is what this means? I feel like any potential damp / moisture situation in any case is out of my control (?).
Having that said, the landlord has all the leverage as I had to compete with 6 other people to get this room – I went through a rigorous vetting process (prior landlord and employer references / provided my new full employment contract etc) and only after all of that was I offered the room - I am hesitant to clarify the draft contract, fearing that I come across as a ‘difficult’ tenant and the new landlord decides to not give me the room altogether – I am starting a new job in a new city and I urgently need the room.
Inventory list also not shared yet, they said they will share list officially when I move-in, show me in the inventory in-person etc. prior to that, they said they will share a pre-recorded video as an aid to inventory (not sure when that video was captured / may not be reflective of current state of inventory).
For additional context, I found the room through Spareroom and subsequently done virtual viewing of the room via WhatsApp with the landlord, and have not been to the accommodation in-person yet, physical move-in next month.
On that note, the landlord said they will share final contract with me by end of this week, and I am expected to sign final contract same day of contract receipt – however they said they will not sign it until I physically move-in, which is late next month (bit of a power play from their side but I don’t seem to have an option and ok with this).
Could someone please kindly have a look at the draft contract and let me know anything specific I should be cautious about.
Please help me.
Thanks in advance.
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Warning: long read
Last year a friend and I signed 12-month leases for a 4 bedroom apartment with an off-campus housing group. This was a group where you wouldn't get your unit assigned until a few months after sign on, so before then we went through this whole "sign up" process where we detailed what room we were looking for and etc. for roommate matching. A few months later we did get our unit details, but everything was wrong. We signed up for a no-pets unit, but our unit had two cats and a dog. We were also placed in a female-only unit, when we had both signed up for a neutral/nongendered unit. Both I and my friend are guys anyways, so we couldn't live there even if we wanted to. When my friend went to the office about this, management told them that they would give us new rooms, but they couldn't guarantee we'd be housed together anymore. We signed up on time, so there was no reason we shouldn't have been able to room together. Management refused to do anything about this despite being the ones who messed up our room assignment.
Around this time I decided to delegate my room and take a Co-Op somewhere else this Fall. The housing group doesn't allow you to just drop your lease, but if you pay a $200 fine and find someone to take over for you, you can delegate. This got a bit complicated when the housing group decided they were going to unasign me from my room. I was not contacted about it, I just logged into my housing portal one day and saw my room was "null." I called the housing group, asked if there was still a room for me, and they stated, "let me check." I asked how I was supposed to get someone to delegate a room that might not exist, and they said I was still financially responsible and not much else. So I wasn't assigned a room, but management contacted me and said there would be one for me if I or anyone else signed back on.
I've been trying to delegate my room since then, but most people I've talked to have dropped for either unrelated reasons, or the fact that I'm selling a room with no information on roommates or unit. I finally got a delegate yesterday, but through a series of back and forth with management where they were telling the delegate one thing and me the other, the delegate ended up dropping. While messaging the general housing manager I also discovered that they only have female units left, which confirms that they don't have a room left for me, and if I can't delegate this lease I can't even get a unit for myself.
TLDR: Unreliable housing group wants me to delegate when they haven't assigned me a room and messed up my original housing agreement.
Is there anything I can do at this point aside from just continuing to look for a delegate? They've kind of screwed me at every corner, to the point where they're actively making it more difficult for me to just follow their procedure and delegate the lease. My housing agreement doesn't really state anything past basic housing requirements on their part, so they haven't technically broken any part of our contract.
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Is it common practice for a landlord to send multiple people lease agreements?
He sent me the agreement at 2pm, which I didn’t have time to fill out because I was at work. He emailed me next morning at noon that the unit had been taken by someone else. Obviously he did nothing illegal, but it seemed like a dick move lol. It wasn’t the best place so I’m not too upset.
He also informed me that more units at a higher price were available lol
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