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2024-17-08
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Can you explain how I use it? I mistakenly touched it and no matter what I do with the arm I’m either +15 or -15; nothing in between. I’ve tried a dozen times now and it’s the same result. I think it has to be what I did to that gold part.
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2024-17-08
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Anyone chime in here? I'm in no way qualified to answer this.
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2024-17-08
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I really appreciate your help. I’ll wait for someone but thanks so much!
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2024-17-08
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Do not rotate the gold piece. That will affect the width of the regulating pins and will cause a while host of accuracy issues.
Sometimes you just gotta live with plus or minus 15 seconds
Edit: thought it was the hairspring stud arm at first
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2024-17-08
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That triggers the James Bond explosives timer.
Touch that, set the watch down, ten seconds later Kaboom 💣
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2024-17-08
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I’ve successfully regulated watches before with the regulator arm. I was told the arm to the right is the best error arm. Anyway, I already mistakenly touched the gold part multiple times and it’s caused some inaccuracies like you said. I guess I have to keep finding the right position. Thanks for your help!
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2024-17-08
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Yup, lots of trial and error in regulating. Good luck
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2024-17-08
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Yes it can move and allow you to make fine adjustments. Nudging it to the left will speed up timing, nudging it to the right will slow down timing.
The brass stud (left arm) is the only one you should be touching. Are you doing this with a timegrapher? If you’ve moved the other arm you may have issues that you will definitely need a timegrapher to measure and fix
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2024-17-08
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The arm is super sensitive. The smallest nudge can be like 10 seconds. What you’re seeing is normal, it’s just super fiddily and time consuming to make small assortments with the regulation arm
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2024-17-08
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Is this a fake watch?
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2024-17-08
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Only if the age of consent is reached and if it has given its permission to.
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2024-17-08
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It's definitely a real watch
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2024-17-08
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Only with consent bro
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2024-17-08
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Mmmmm i don know what that little thing is right there but ima touch it!
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2024-17-08
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It’s a rep (vsf 126610)
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2024-17-08
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So the gold stud on the left arm moves independently from the arm it’s attached to?
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2024-17-08
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Do not touch it if you do not have a microscope to see if the hairspring is spaced evenly between the pins. If you need to ask then don't touch it
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2024-17-08
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Short answer, yes. Full answer, I’ll try explain the best I can in normal terms…
The primary purpose of moving the stud (independent of the carrier arm) is to primarily centre the hairspring between the regulating pins. This centering is crucial because it ensures that the hairspring’s coils expand and contract symmetrically, which is vital for maintaining consistent oscillations of the balance wheel.
When the hairspring is properly centered, it improves the overall isochronism by ensuring that the balance wheel swings uniformly regardless of the amplitude.
While this does indirectly affect the rate by ensuring consistent timekeeping, the primary function of this adjustment is to optimize the balance and symmetry of the hairspring’s movement, which is key to the watch’s accuracy.
As previously mentioned, you really need to be using a timegrapher when adjusting at this level since more than just the rate is coming in to play.
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2024-18-08
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Do you tell people it's real?
Why did you buy a fake?
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2024-18-08
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This is a microstella nut, it controls the inertial regulation of the balance wheel
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2024-18-08
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But it's a fake Rolex?
I didn't know about them , these fakes
Where do they come from
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2024-18-08
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Can you explain what the inertial part means? How can I use it to dial in the accuracy?
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2024-18-08
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Ah thank you. That makes sense. I’m pretty sure I moved it a bit. Maybe explains why crown up/down, dial up/down has some variation? Anyway, I’ll keep trying thanks so much.
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2024-18-08
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Yes so to adjust the balance wheel you can turn the screw to move the weight outwards towards the end of the balance wheel, that will slow down the watch, and to speed up screw it inwards.
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2024-18-08
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You mean turn the gold nut right?
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2024-18-08
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No.
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2024-18-08
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Don't touch the nut. Just adjust the timing and close it up.
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2024-18-08
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Sometimes that's the best you can get. And I bet if you try different positions the rate will vary.
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2024-18-08
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Very informative thanks for your input
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2024-18-08
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Do you mean the arm that the gold nut is attached to?
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2024-18-08
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Yeah it ran nearly perfect for 2 years then all of a sudden started losing 14 a day. No matter what I do I can’t get it back to +/-2.
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2024-18-08
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When you're that close, merely touching the arm a little will change the rate by seconds. When I'm doing the final regulation, after moving the arm to gross regulate, I'm barely pressing the arm to finish the final 10-15 seconds. It's hard to describe the amount of pressure used on the side of the arm at this stage but it's almost a "firm, non-existent" touch. Change the angle of attack you are touching the arm, don't push parallel with a tool. Touch the tool to the main plate and come at a shallow angle laying on the side of it and after a "firm cuddle", you will have rate change.
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2024-18-08
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Correction, microstella nuts are usually on the actual balance wheel itself and not the regulation arm
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2024-18-08
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That’s very helpful. I’ll give that a shot. Thanks so much!
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2024-18-08
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to be short just that you're very far off and didn't know if elaborating would be of any interest. This isn't a breguet overcoil setup with microstella nuts. Those nuts you are referring to are on the balance wheel. That is just a regulator arm. The breguet overcoil allows the hairspring to expand and contract more evenly as apposed to a regulated one where the additional stud (the arm and stud you are referring to) interjects itself to shorten or lengthen the hairspring for rate change. These setups prevent the hairspring from expanding and contracting evenly compared to an overcoil, free spring balance. Instead of the arm in question, you have the little nuts on the balance wheel for rate adjustment. Two different approaches to the same outcome.
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2024-18-08
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Yes that is correct. That nut changes the direction the hairspring "breathes". You should only be moving the arm itself.
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2024-18-08
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Yeah sorry I realised that when you mentioned it. I added a correction, apologies for my misinformation
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2024-18-08
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Were you born an asshole or did you have to take lessons?
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2024-18-08
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I think a better question is how the fuck did you end up here?
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2024-19-08
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That centers the timing pins on the terminal curve of the balance spring.
Why in the world would you touch it if you don’t know how to use it, what it does, etc?
Honestly, it’s a bad idea. Leave it to those with the proper Etachron tools and know how.
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2024-19-08
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That’s a first…
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2024-19-08
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Not usually on the balance wheel, always.
And on a free sprung balance, so not applicable.
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2024-19-08
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I was just pushing on the arm to regulate and didn’t know it was a separate part with its own function. I don’t think I moved it because it’s really stiff but was just wondering since I pushed on it to move the arm a couple times.
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2024-19-08
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TOSCA, on iOS app store, you’re welcome Mr DIY
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2024-19-08
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That's the self destruct button
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2024-19-08
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Can I ask one more thing? How do I fix the inconsistency of accuracy at different positions? If I get it close with dial up, crown up is off and vice versa. For the first 2 years it was accurate at all positions but I messed it up somehow. Crown up keeps gaining a ton of seconds regardless of the other positions.
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2024-20-08
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Service of movement. Regulating in each position. Higher end movements hold better tolerance making positional accuracy better. Even swiss have "grades". Sometimes a little leeway is needed with Asian movements since results can be less accurate. Some are great, it just depends.
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2024-20-08
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I’ll give regulating each position another try but I’m pretty sure i won’t be able to do it as one messes up the other. I guess dialing in dial up is best. Thanks so much!
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2024-20-08
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Does anyone know if a clean factory bezel assembly will fill on a VSF 114060? Cracked the ceramic insert on mine, thought about purchasing a clean factory bezel from ali, wasn’t sure if the two were compatible though?
Or am I better off just replacing the ceramic insert itself? Is that difficult?
Thanks in advance.
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2024-17-08
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Yes, interchange. But make sure you’re buying a real Clean factory one, there’s a lot of fake Clean stuff on AliExpress
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2024-17-08
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Appreciate the advice! Is there a good way to tell if one is genuine clean?
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2024-17-08
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Unfortunately not, because no matter what the photos show, in the end the seller could just bait and switch.
Really the most important thing is to work with a credible seller
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2024-17-08
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Ahh ok, thanks for the advice!
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2024-17-08
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I've bought the sbux/hulk ones in the $30 - 50 range (don't say clean) and the ones in the $100 range that state Clean and the more expensive ones have a deeper green and a more metal-like infill of the digits on the bezel insert.
Don't know what stores specifically but the more expensive ones seem legit. Just make sure you have digital calipers as the tolerance on the more expensive version need to be press fit and I cracked one of them cause it was off by .4mm.
Another difference between the cheaper inserts was they came with adhesive for the insert to stick into the bezel. Clean labeled ones did not and fit snug and secure.
Comparison [HERE](https://imgur.com/a/8XvCLaC)
Insert that is in the Bezel is the one labeled as CF.
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2024-18-08
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Instead of ali, try Ctime. They sell clean bezels.
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2024-18-08
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Appreciate the info! So you said the clean one’s don’t use adhesive, does that mean the factory VSF one is just press fit in place? What’s the best way to remove it?
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2024-18-08
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Unsure about VSF, I have a Clean 114060 and everything was held together by press fitting - to clarify the cheaper bezel insert came with one of those 3M adhesive circles.
As far as removal, I used a rectangular hobby knife blade and gently tapped it under the bezel insert washer at various points along the bezel until it popped out. Once I created enough of a gap around I used a small flathead screwdriver to increase the gap around the bezel until the 3 pieces fell apart (bezel, bezel insert washer, bezel insert). I used a soft dual face plastic/rubber mallet to tap the blade in. For clarity, the blade was in an xacto knife handle.
If you have the bezel off, the underside will show you this sandwich of layers like in the pic [HERE](https://imgur.com/a/TAawkwf). The red arrow points to the gap between the bezel and bezel insert washer, above the bezel gasket - that is where I inserted my blade. The aqua arrow points to the gap between the bezel insert and bezel insert washer. I did not try to separate the bezel insert itself using finger pressure but I suppose if you wanted you could try it, but you may crack the insert.
I would caution unless you've done this, or don't care and want to use it as a learning experience, to not do it. I have done various Seiko mods but this is the first time I did work on a rep and I *marred my bezel insert washer* no matter how carefully I went about it.
ETA: when reinstalling the bezel insert - if it is going to snap in snugly, start the process of placing it in by inserting the edge with the pip first. I had cracked a bezel insert by pressing the pip in last, I am assuming because it is the least structurally sound part of the insert given the small hole to insert the pip into the bezel insert. Don't waste money like I did.
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2024-18-08
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https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805708022424.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.14b27fecymWEMk&browser_id=af43b96bfd6443d7b4201ed43edee40c&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=mhghgogwwcaapjyb19166689f46189d8930d62f7f1&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21112.01%21112.01%21%21%21799.50%21799.50%21%402103011017240001481003712e0a16%2112000034743872438%21sea%21US%210%21ABX&algo_pvid=a0b68b88-7df0-4adf-8b89-f2be60dcbcfa Do you think this would be a good replacement complete bezel?
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2024-18-08
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I honestly wouldn't wanna make a recommendation for a complete bezel cause I'd feel bad if you wasted your money due to poor/fitment.
If it were me looking to replace the complete bezel I'd reach out to the TD I bought my rep from and ask if they could source the part for the factory case it'd be matched up to. Might pay a little more, but at least you'd know for sure you're getting a specific factory bezel.
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2024-18-08
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I appreciate the advice! I’ll reach out to my TD
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2024-18-08
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I have a VSF SMP 300 that I could use a service on. I have the crown stripping issue. I don't mind just shortening the stem and losing the water proof element, but am afraid that may be too difficult to do on my own. The other issue is that the bezel insert is shifted about one click off center from the beveling on the bezel.
I'd like to fix both these issues and would like some feedback. Should I attempt these myself? If so what do I need? Is there any US rep repair folks that i could ship my watch to for these services? What would the cost be? Or should I just take this to a local watch shop?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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2024-18-08
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You can buy stem and crown on aliexpress for like $20 or so. Depwnding on your location, maybe a local watchmaker can fix this one for you. Bezel alignment - this l can't advise.
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2024-18-08
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Good to know. I have no idea if repositioning the bezel insert is difficult or not.
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2024-18-08
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Well, if the insert is misaligned, then you have to take it out and you can always damage it. If the bezel as a whole.is misaligned then it is "relatively" easy to fix. You pop out the bezel as a whole and position it properly. Again - tools and experience is required.
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2024-18-08
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Hey all!
I'm looking for an Oyster or Jubilee steel bracelet to replace the original Oysterflex bracelet it came with.
Is this something that exists or am I simply dreaming?
W2C?
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2024-18-08
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Hate to break it to you, that does not look like a VSF date or hands..
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2024-19-08
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or a yacht master II!!
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2024-19-08
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Look. It is a fantasy watch of sorts. Consider getting a strap about 2mm wider at lugs to start. Then hands if you care enough. Then the rest. Or, F it and wear what YOU like
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2024-19-08
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Hi. How is your wrist? I only have 16.5cm and I thought its to small
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2024-20-08
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Need a replacement for my gmf DD40 rose gold olive dial. Am open to other colors as well.
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2024-19-08
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also need
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2024-19-08
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I have an black Onyx dial for a 36mm 😔
Sorry
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2024-19-08
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Sorry for the bad photo, unfortunately I don’t have another one.
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2024-19-08
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No
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2024-19-08
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It’s a bad photo and a bad angle but judging by the day font and no gap between the day wheel and the actual dial it looks gen (idk about the bezel and can’t tell about the date window due to crap angle)
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2024-19-08
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Is he claiming it's real? Lol. That looks fake AF, even with that garbage Pic. Rolex diamonds don't lie, among many other things. Those baguettes look like they're made out of plexiglass glass.
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2024-19-08
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Can’t vouch for the diamond insert, but the cyclops, day font, lug shape, bracelet attachment to lugs and yellow gold color, they all look legit.
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2024-19-08
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Definitely gen
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2024-19-08
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Gen
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2024-19-08
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Hi guys,
I’m trying to find a source for good watch dials, more specifically a 2836 yacht master blue one. Would anyone know a seller for this?
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2024-19-08
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Do you mean a high-end rep dial? RWI forums is your best bet. Honestly, you'd be better off just buying a good complete, ready to go rep bc high-end Vietnam stuff is not cheap and OEM will be astronomical and that's if you cam even find one.
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2024-19-08
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Some time ago i bought a moonswatch from dhgate, overestimating myself i thought i could do the 24h dial mod by myself, result? Snapped pinion on the top left subdial and broken pinion stuck inside the 60 minutes hand. I already bought a new movement, how do i salvage the hand (or buy a new one)?
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2024-19-08
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What mod were you doing to the 24hr out of interest?
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2024-19-08
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In the gen the top right dial is not at 12 only when the chrono is engaged, in the reps is instead a 24hr wheel so almost never at 12.
People began locking that wheel to make it look more like gen
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTimeServices/comments/12elu3s/how_to_freeze_moonswatch_24h_subdial_properly/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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2024-19-08
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I personally wouldn’t even bother with a moonswatch. I bought one and it fogged up on day 1,, all the hands fell off on day 2. For a $30 watch,, I just don’t think it’s worth spending 3+ hours fixing.
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2024-19-08
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Thanks. I use a shitty moonswatch in a metal speedy case as my daily beater. I may do this.
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2024-19-08
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Wait, you're worried about breaking a fake watch? 😄
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It's real, as in really on your wrist....
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2024-19-08
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Hi. I got two 114060. One from CF and one from VSF. The crystal seems higher than the VSF one. Are there any height differeces between these two? Does CF use a thicker crystal?
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2024-19-08
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Hi, I have a Daytona Panda which is supposed to be CF but has a couple of defects that need fixing. I am based in Norway, is there a watchmaker who can work on this piece please contact me via PMs and I can give the details
Thanks in advance
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2024-19-08
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We have an sticked topic tread with a list of trusted watchmakers!
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2024-19-08
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Thanks
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2024-19-08
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Noleex is one of them ;) can highly recommend! He just serviced and repaired my Explorer II
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2024-19-08
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Can anyone tell me if the green for the dial and hands are the same for the new Bruce Wayne & the 116710LN?
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2024-20-08
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Wondering if PT5000 will be direct replacement. Date wheel has me wondering
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2024-20-08
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Hey, the movement will work but you have to be very careful with the seconds pinion. VSF uses a little extender for the seconds hand on top on the seconds pinion. You must take care that you don't loose this part. Otherwise you won't be able to install the handset from vsf again.
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2024-20-08
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Would you be able to install the hours and minutes but no seconds hand?
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2024-20-08
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This is correct unless you transfer over the seconds pinion extension that sits right on top of the seconds pinion.
You need to remove this part otherwise you won't be able to remove the minute and hour hands.
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