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Oh, Stockton.
Oh, okay.
How about you?
Uh, Cincinnati, actually.
I was kind of wondering if they would be collecting people with, uh, the western accents or something like that.
I don't know how many people are, uh, getting involved in this
but uh, well that's interesting.
Uh-huh.
I'm, uh, uh, actually, uh, I was kind of interested if you found out about the study by, uh, reading TELECOM DIGEST
or was there another?
Uh, a colleague of mine at, uh, work got some information over, uh, the computer network called INTERNET.
Oh, okay.
Yeah,
that is how I got it as well
but, uh,
And he just forwarded that on to me
and, uh, it sounded like it would be an interesting project to participate in
Uh-huh.
so I sent back mail.
Yeah,
it will be interesting to see what, It would be interesting to see how the data base,
so, well, I guess we're talking about the experiment.
Uh-huh.
Uh, probably need to try to get back on the topic
but, uh, it's hard to talk about finances without without getting to, uh, dollar figures I guess you know,
Uh-huh.
we could talk about some of the long range goals
and,
Well what other long range goals do you have besides college?
Uh, well I think, either my wife or I would like to pursue advanced degrees at some point
Uh-huh.
uh, I guess we will have to factor that in if we are not working for employers that happen to fund that.
It seems like every year my employer just gives back, you know, a little bit your tuition reimbursement.
Uh-huh.
I mean they use to reimburse one hundred percent
and now it's, uh, now it's reimbursement depending on the grade you get in class
and, uh, it's a real shame from what we had before, uh, because we're,
Right,
uh, actually I lived over in Europe for a couple of years,
I lived in Germany
and in Germany they don't have the jury system.
What they do is they have, uh, three judges, basically.
And you get up there
and the prosecuting attorney presents his evidence
and your defense attorney presents their evidence
and those three guys take the evidence, go off, figure it out and then come back and say whether you're guilty or not.
our judicial system is in such total chaos.
I think what they need to do is, they need to somehow take the money out of it.
I mean, when you have a man that's signed a, a, a statement saying he's guilty,
we have a, a family called All day family.
They were all murdered.
Uh-huh.
All the people signed confessions,
they went to a trial by jury.
They been trying these people now for twenty-two years, ever since I was a child.
Wow.
And what they've done is they've bought Mercedes after Mercedes after Mercedes is what they've done,
has nothing to do with justice whatsoever.
Well, you know, it's, it's one of those things,
I mean, uh, uh, I would have to look at it.
if they did it with the, uh, just the judges, the police have to do a lot better job of making sure that their evidence is airtight
because the judges sitting in that kind of stuff day after day, they know all the procedures,
they know what's good and what isn't,
they'd be able to say, I'm sorry,
you can't use this as, uh, evidence, you know, because it was either illegally obtained or whatever
and, you know, you wouldn't have this, uh, uh, theatrics where the lawyer jumps up and presents it to the, to the jury
and then the judge says, oh, no,
disregard that.
Come on,
any jury's not going to disregard the evidence, you know
Uh, that's true.
I, I, I think our judicial system is attorney welfare myself.
That may very well be.
I, I hold it in the utmost contempt.
Uh,
The, uh, my favorite is the police department,
they're not aimed at the criminal.
The judicial system is aimed at the citizens
because you and I, we have work schedules,
we can be called at work,
we have Social Security numbers,
they can trace us down,
we have telephones,
then we have checkbooks.
Criminals have none of these things.
They're real difficult to catch,
and if they do catch them, they don't get any monetary gain out of it, whereas us, we write a check.
Yeah.
So where do you think they target their efforts?
That's true.
They target their efforts toward the citizens not the criminals.
Well, How would you go about changing it?
You know, that's a,
I've nailed the problem down
but I,
Leave the details up to somebody else, huh.
Yeah,
I'm going to have to leave those details like, what would you do about,
I think, to begin with, you would you would have,
like, here in Atlanta area, our crime rate is just astronomical,