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Oh, Stockton.
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Oh, okay.
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How about you?
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Uh, Cincinnati, actually.
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I was kind of wondering if they would be collecting people with, uh, the western accents or something like that.
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I don't know how many people are, uh, getting involved in this
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but uh, well that's interesting.
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Uh-huh.
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I'm, uh, uh, actually, uh, I was kind of interested if you found out about the study by, uh, reading TELECOM DIGEST
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or was there another?
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Uh, a colleague of mine at, uh, work got some information over, uh, the computer network called INTERNET.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah,
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that is how I got it as well
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but, uh,
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And he just forwarded that on to me
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and, uh, it sounded like it would be an interesting project to participate in
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Uh-huh.
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so I sent back mail.
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Yeah,
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it will be interesting to see what, It would be interesting to see how the data base,
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so, well, I guess we're talking about the experiment.
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Uh-huh.
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Uh, probably need to try to get back on the topic
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but, uh, it's hard to talk about finances without without getting to, uh, dollar figures I guess you know,
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Uh-huh.
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we could talk about some of the long range goals
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and,
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Well what other long range goals do you have besides college?
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Uh, well I think, either my wife or I would like to pursue advanced degrees at some point
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Uh-huh.
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uh, I guess we will have to factor that in if we are not working for employers that happen to fund that.
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It seems like every year my employer just gives back, you know, a little bit your tuition reimbursement.
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Uh-huh.
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I mean they use to reimburse one hundred percent
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and now it's, uh, now it's reimbursement depending on the grade you get in class
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and, uh, it's a real shame from what we had before, uh, because we're,
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Right,
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uh, actually I lived over in Europe for a couple of years,
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I lived in Germany
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and in Germany they don't have the jury system.
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What they do is they have, uh, three judges, basically.
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And you get up there
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and the prosecuting attorney presents his evidence
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and your defense attorney presents their evidence
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and those three guys take the evidence, go off, figure it out and then come back and say whether you're guilty or not.
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our judicial system is in such total chaos.
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I think what they need to do is, they need to somehow take the money out of it.
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I mean, when you have a man that's signed a, a, a statement saying he's guilty,
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we have a, a family called All day family.
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They were all murdered.
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Uh-huh.
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All the people signed confessions,
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they went to a trial by jury.
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They been trying these people now for twenty-two years, ever since I was a child.
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Wow.
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And what they've done is they've bought Mercedes after Mercedes after Mercedes is what they've done,
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has nothing to do with justice whatsoever.
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Well, you know, it's, it's one of those things,
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I mean, uh, uh, I would have to look at it.
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if they did it with the, uh, just the judges, the police have to do a lot better job of making sure that their evidence is airtight
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because the judges sitting in that kind of stuff day after day, they know all the procedures,
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they know what's good and what isn't,
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they'd be able to say, I'm sorry,
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you can't use this as, uh, evidence, you know, because it was either illegally obtained or whatever
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and, you know, you wouldn't have this, uh, uh, theatrics where the lawyer jumps up and presents it to the, to the jury
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and then the judge says, oh, no,
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disregard that.
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Come on,
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any jury's not going to disregard the evidence, you know
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Uh, that's true.
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I, I, I think our judicial system is attorney welfare myself.
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That may very well be.
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I, I hold it in the utmost contempt.
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Uh,
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The, uh, my favorite is the police department,
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they're not aimed at the criminal.
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The judicial system is aimed at the citizens
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because you and I, we have work schedules,
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we can be called at work,
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we have Social Security numbers,
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they can trace us down,
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we have telephones,
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then we have checkbooks.
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Criminals have none of these things.
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They're real difficult to catch,
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and if they do catch them, they don't get any monetary gain out of it, whereas us, we write a check.
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Yeah.
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So where do you think they target their efforts?
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That's true.
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They target their efforts toward the citizens not the criminals.
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Well, How would you go about changing it?
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You know, that's a,
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I've nailed the problem down
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but I,
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Leave the details up to somebody else, huh.
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Yeah,
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I'm going to have to leave those details like, what would you do about,
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I think, to begin with, you would you would have,
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like, here in Atlanta area, our crime rate is just astronomical,
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