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Good Job on the WUFI Link A very welcome addition! Good Job!
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What the hell happened to this dude?
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Expansion For anyone who picks this up, a few possible ideas for expansion might be: * History - When was it started? Why was it started? * People - Who are the people involved in the project? * Where is it used, and how widespread is it? (Sourceforge might be the largest entity using it) * Language - Why was python used, over any other language (the ViewCVS web page has a fairly negative quote regarding perl) * Details of the two main components: the repository viewer and the commit database. * Compare and contrast with CvsWeb, a similar tool * Compare and contrast with command line CVS tools
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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around. Here are some tips to help you get started: *To sign your posts (on talk pages, for example) use the '~' symbol. To insert just your name, type ~~~ (3 tildes), or, to insert your name and timestamp, use ~~~~ (4 tildes). * Try the Tutorial, and feel free to experiment in the test area. * If you need help, post a question at the Help Desk *Follow the Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset * Eventually, you might want to read the Manual of Style and Policies and Guidelines. *Remember Wikipedia:Neutral point of view * Explore, be bold in editing pages, and, most importantly, have fun! Good luck!
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Do all of the novels really need to be linked? Of the few links for which there are actually articles, none refer to these novels. I'm going to de-link for now, except for the film that actually refers to one of these books.
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I'm not editing the article regarding the numbering of the Fort Smith section of I-540 because it seems the writer may have been there more recently. However, IIRC when I traveled that road shortly after the newer part of I-540 was completed a few years back, the exit signs and mileposts WERE renumbered to be consistent with the new road (i.e., from Oklahoma line north), though local billboards still had the old exit numbers. Perhaps an AHTD re-signing project erroneously restored the original exit numbers and mileposts?
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Could anyone tell me the difference among Sai Wan, Sai Ying Pun and West Point?
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69.192.205.46 Your account has been reported to Wikipedia for deleting the Nazi architecture page.
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`==Removal of POV links== While it is true that minorities may have faced discrimination in some parts of Bangladesh, adding a host of links about ``Ethnic cleansing`` in Bangladesh is POV. The article is about ``Hinduism in Bangladesh``, so adding these links, most of which seem to be taken from Right wing websites or News articles, do not serve any purpose. These are not credible, and are unsubstantiated. I am interested in expanding the article, by adding sections on the History part and the different dynasties, and the religious sites, and the status of hindus in BD. However, adding links just for anti-Bangladesh/Islam rant would not help the article be NPOV. Thanks. `
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Here is a letter that will be sent today (10/6/05) to Geoff Hayes a councillor for Bray Council which may be of interest to readers of this site; 10 June 2005 Major William Thomas Forshaw V.C. Now that you have skilfully discovered where our local VC lived and died and further to our recent discussions on putting a suitable plaque on the house in Gays Lane – I am pleased to say that it would be an understatement to say that the present owners are happy to agree to this. I have tried contacting English Heritage (for the Blue Plaque) with little success. I enclose all emails etc for your information. A local Council funded and designed Plaque maybe more in keeping especially if local schoolchildren are involved with the design based on certain parameters. Would you be kind enough to put the matter before the Council at your next meeting for the necessary permissions and funding? Yours sincerely, Terry Nicolson
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There have been many US versions of this cover.
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What makes you an editor? Why do you use the name of a great dead man? What is your true name, profession, country? Shamir
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Moved from La Opinion becasue of proper spelling. -
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What is the streamlining and aircraft body for the Trabajo Para Hacer En La Casa?
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For a May 2005 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Algebra I
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What type of sterilization do you think affects the taste of milk?
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Street Spirit is on The Bends, not OK Computer.
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I hope nobody minds, I added a few things including the causes of the PoG and a 'balance sheet' of successes and failures. This article really could use some work though, it is very thin. ~~James
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Joe Castiglione is also the name of a rather prominent athletic director in college sports. He is the former AD at the University of Missouri and is now the AD at Oklahoma University. Could we consider creating seperate pages for the Red Sox announcer with the name and for the Oklahoma AD with the name? Thanks.
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Welcome! Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. Currently, you are editing anonymously. You can continue to do so. You are not required to log in to Wikipedia to read and write articles, but not doing so will result in your IP address being shown instead of a username (yours is ). There are many benefits for logging in to Wikipedia. Please note these points: *Please respect others' copyrights; do not copy and paste the contents from webpages directly. *Please use a neutral point of view to edit the article; this is possibly the most important Wikipedia policy. *If you are testing, please use the Sandbox to do that. *Do not add unreasonable contents into any articles, such as: copyrighted texts, advertisement messages, and texts that are not related to that article. Both adding such unreasonable information and editing articles maliciously are considered vandalism. A user who repeatedly vandalises articles will be blocked from editing. The Wikipedia Tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, ask me on my Talk page – I will answer your questions as far as I can! Thank you again for contributing to Wikipedia. from Wikipedian: P.S., I saw your edit to Howard Stern. Just thought I'd let you know that I reverted it because it violates Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. Happy editing!
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:Memory alpha says (NCC-71099)
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Hi - welcome to Wikipedia. Please note, this is an encyclopedia and not the place for free advertizing or spam edits. -Thanks,
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== I wish you well == Hi Rick! I hope you'll reconsider quitting wikipedia (BTW this is a great likeness of you )
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It automatically creates a redirect page. However, you will still have to fix double-redirects by hand. June 28, 2005 07:18 (UTC)
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It's evident that the SECTARIAN group editing theis page does not want to accept any neutrral viewpoint, but only what they want to impose as the universal truth - NOT accepted by ROma themselves!
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`Should we really separate this catalog into ``Proprietary`` and ``Free``? I suggest changing it to ``Commercial``, ``Free`` and ``Open Source``. The word ``proprietary`` is too tough and can be used to scare non-technical users from freeware programs in favour of open source software - while essentially there is no difference between two for non-technical end user.`
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`Buddha is saying: hey, to happy you can follow my way if you want to. He is not a God that put meaning in the cosmos, created the cosmos and the cosmos and human life do not embody his divine plan or such. He is an ``example`` that people can follow, not a god. [13:32h, June 28 2005] `
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You may comment on my TODO wish if you please. ==TODO== ===Third gender=== Needs to have a large vote on merging, advertise merger vote in Gender and other places. ===Identity politics=== Needs attention brought to it for serious revision regarding inclusion of things which are obviously not identity politics. ===Morality and legality of abortion=== Shouldn't even exist, it's original research and should be deleted. It's also impossible to keep an article like that on wikipedia clean.
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` ===Wikipedia:WikiProject_Drugs=== I need to start a project that automates factual changes/insertions (like rambot). A lot of incorrect information exists in or basic factual information is missing from drug related articles. This is stuff that can be easily looked up online and are basic scientific facts for which there is no argument over. The information can be found from several online drug databases including rxlist.com, medlineplus.gov, the official websites of drug manufacturers (they have free, detailed information sheets) and other various websites. I plan on writing a bot which can automatically 'rip' factual information (which is non-copyrightable due to its factual nature) and create an off-site database. I will offer this database for free for people to download, so both they and I can work on bots that can integrate the information in articles. This would require considerable collaboration with the drugs wikiproject people to provide a standard format for all drugs articles beyond the simplistic efforts taken so far so that I can ensure the bot will behave properly and insert information only in a correct manner. For clarity, this is information regarding side effects, [bio]chemistry, routes of administration, drug names (brand name and genericmy bot will autmoatically look up International Nonproprietary Name, USAN, BAN and other names) as well as other clearly factual things. A question needs to be raised regarding drug pages, how should they be organized? The full information sheets on drugs are very large and rather complicated from a lay person's perspective, perhaps it would make sense to integrate full infomration (including the results of studies on it) on a separate ``full information`` page while keeping the main page a summary? ===Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court cases=== Some of the SCOTUS articles (Lawrence v. Texas, Bowers v. Hardwick) have caught my interest and I may decide to do some bot automation with them also, but I'm not sure what yet. There are various large legal database websites available which I can legally rip information from in the same manner as with the drug project above. See also: Category:U.S. Supreme Court cases`
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` == translation problem == I am translating this article to Chinese wikipedia. Somebody has different understanding with me about this sentence, ``Beyond just using the same deb package format, Ubuntu has very strong links with the Debian community, contributing any changes directly and immediately, rather than announcing them only at release time.`` Who contributs any changes directly and immediately? I think it is Ubuntu. But he insists it should be Debian. 28 June 2005 12:26 (UTC)`
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that site and click 'Animuddle'.
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*Thanks for your comment, Theo. It's hard to keep a sense of civility in such a highly-charged environment, but I will try harder for the sake of Wikipedia. 28 June 2005 17:38 (UTC)
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` == Dubious claims about clearly non-transgenderd people == This article lists a whole bunch of people whos transgender status is clearly wrong and others for whom it is highly speculative. This isn't a list of people who ``kinda, sorta, there's a small chance, maybe`` are transgender. The ones who cross-dressed for some nefarious/deceptive purpose and not as a life style choice clearly can not be classified as transgender and should be removed from the article completely. The fact that mythological figures such as Achilles were even added in the first place says a lot about the POV pushing of the people who supported it. The only mythological one who might be considered transgenderes is Guan Yin. The real life figures who did it to disguise themselves to avoid something (e.g. military service) or even to get into something where women are discriminated against. They did it for deceptive purposes as well, so they can't really be considered transgendered. The pope one is laughable and definitely should be removed. The one about Joan of Arc is based exclusively on an accustion from a unreliable source. If they accused her of being a witch, should we have included her in a list of witches too? Also, I'd like to see an authoritative source showing that she was even accused of it as it seems that it's most Wikipedia ripped sites and LGBT websites that site that as fact. And what are ``transvestite tendencies`` in reference to Ed Wood? You need to start citing sources or I'm just going to start deleting them. That goes mainly for the historical and mythological figurse section. Maxwell Klinger wasn't even a real transvestite, he only did that so he'd get a section 8 and get kicked out of the army. Anyone who watched the show knows he would try all kinds of crazy stuff to get kicked out under the guise of being mentally ill. This phrase describing the character is also very odd: ``Although a transvestite, he loudly denied any charges of homosexuality.`` What's the association between the two? Also, it appears they're using a warped definition of transgender here. I've never heard a definition that would automatically include cross-dressers as if that automatically means they identify with the opposite gender rather than just enjoying the clothes. I'm sorry, but this overly broad and incorrect definition of transgender is obviously an attempt just to make the list as long as possible. 28 June 2005 21:00 (UTC)`
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` article title== When did the title start displaying as π ? - That's even worse. Now I see a completely odd, non-Latin, non-Greek character. ==Shanks== Shanks' famous calculation of π is listed twice in the history corresponding to two different years, 1853 and 1874. What's going on there? *I think the 1853 date is wrong (according to other sources). == BCE vs BC == Don't switch existing BCE usage to BC (or vice versa) without very good reason. This is the same as the issue of American vs. British spelling for words, and the precedent (leave usage as it is originally written) is the same. There are good arguments on either side (BCE is the academic/scholarly standard, even in British textbooks... and BC is more widely known, particularly outside North America) but until there is a Wikipedia standard on this issue (and there currently isn't) leave BCE/BC usage alone. 18:38, 2004 Aug 29 (UTC) :Well here are some very very good reasons for switching all BCE/CE to BC/AD, but first let me deal with your opinions. This is not the same issue as AE vs. BE. There is no controversy in usage of language versions, just personal preference usually based on country of origin, so the precedent 'leave as originally written' doesn't apply here. In fact, because there's no Wiki standard, not very much does apply, apart from NPOV. BCE is the academic/scholarly standard... Is it? I don't think so. It's certainly making inroads, particularly in internet writing originating from America, but it's virtually unknown in the rest of the world and is certainly not a standard in British text books. :So why change? :1)Quite simply because use of BCE/CE is 'POV'. The de-facto global standard is BC/AD. A minority in the USA are trying to push their politically correct alternative (and having some success) and to use it in Wikipedia is to support this minority standpoint. Maybe BCE/CE will eventually become the de-facto global standard. If it does, then Wikipedia should adopt it, but in the mean time it use here is, in effect, supporting a political objective. Wikipedia should not promote this usage. :2)Wikipedia should not use terminlogy that most of the world does not understand. An article on pi is relevant to everyone the world over. Readers should not have to ask the question '.. what's all this BCE stuff?'. ::BCE is not American Political Correctness it goes back several hundred years (the 15th century, I believe) and originated with Rabbinic scholars. BCE/CE and BC/AD are both' POV, there's no escaping it. Nonetheless, BCE/CE is the academic standard in the English-speaking world (try to find a history textbook even a British one published in the last decade that still uses BC/AD). However in Wikipedia articles we still accept Standard units of measurement (feet, miles, gallons'') despite the fact that the academic standard (even in the US) is to use Metric. So like I wrote earlier, there are good arguments on either side. Until there's a consensus (and the Pi article isn't the place to form it), it's best to leave the BCE/BC usage as the original author wrote it. (And for the record, I personally use ISO date formats.) 04:28, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC) I admit that I'm not North American, but also, I didn't know what the heck this BCE/CE stuff was about. Then I found it on WP, via List of acronyms. Now, just some google hit counting: 881 for ``before christian era``. 9,100 for ``before common era``. (1st hit is a good reference: www.radix.net/~dglenn/defs/ce.html) 81,300 for ``common era`` -``before common era``. 92,200 for ``common era`` 269,000 for ``before christ`` 278,000 for ``anno domini`` although maybe not needed, 3 further comments * the ``AD`` is probably underestimated, because so well known that explanation/spelling out is probably less frequent w.r.t. occurence * I also agree with ``leave as is`` if there's not a really undisputable reason for changing * ``(before) common era`` seems to me much more POV than ``before christ``. — == Historical values == The first two historical values for pi given are both in bold, and so were (presumably) both world records. However, the first one is actually closer to pi than the second. What's going on there? NEWLI
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` ===Wikipedia:LGBT notice board=== This explains a lot of the experience I've had in LGBT articles, this is used as a recruitment point to spread LGBT based propaganda. They are not the slightest bit interested in POV and get offended when you delete clearly POV and unsubstantiated, dubious content. They suggest you basically write the article from scratch for them since it's crap, because to them it's better to keep in totally incorrect propaganda then have a small article. They insist on making a million different articles covering every topic, sub-topic and sub-sub-topic on everything related to LGBT stuff (notice the abundance of ``Homosexuality and`` type articles), there is TONS of redundant information. They're basically among the most close-minded POV pushers on Wikipedia and given their persistence it's an annoying problem. The herd is noticeable on VfD pages, 4 of the 7 votes to keep the pro-feminism article, for example, came through recruited from this wikipedia notice board. 7 votes were for deletion, because clearly the article made no sense to exist (it's all just reiterating feminist beliefs whilst repeating ``pro-feminist men believe...`` over and over). Without this notice board, their POV and other silly articles wouldn't stand a chance on VfD.`
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(UTC) ==THE DROP== Added reference to the drop in mixed DnB - at the end of the day it's all about the drop! Might also be worth explaining what 'rolling' DnB is. There's a lot of terminology people will hear through MCs which could do with explaining. :Sounds good, go for your life! It's good that these techniques are getting explained in this article. | 14:55, Nov 16, 2004
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would benefit from being more clearly split along such lines
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:Correct... JML e-mailed me the same answer, you guys all heard of it before so you only get half-credit ;) And welcome back, haven't seen you editing pages in a while. June 29, 2005 00:53 (UTC)
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Did Kana have sex with someone in the game? 29 June 2005 01:54 (UTC)
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` Decius despite what those people claim, it's literally more likely to meet a Turk in Norway than a Skopjan in Greek Macedonia. How can there be any violence if there's practically no minority? The 20 people who comprise the Skopjan political party Rainbow (got something like 100 votes in the elections) are the only official record I'm aware of and that's because they have a website. Once they tried to put up some propaganda posters written in Cyrillic but had their office smashed on the next day, and ``thus was this matter settled``. Macedonian Slavs will claim that some 95% of Greek Macedonia is ethnic Skopjan, opressed by the Greek government and forbidden to speak its language etc, etc, etc. The story about the infamous ``partition`` of Macedonia refers to the defeat of Bulgaria during the Balkan Wars. Of course there's no record of a ``Macedonian`` army ever taking part, although in their history books it can reach up to 100,000 soldiers (that would be 1/6 of the army of Napoleon and slightly smaller that the army that conquered Constantinople under Mehmed II). I mean those people are bitching about a territory that they didn't manage to steal in the last century and expect to be taken seriously. Imagine what kind of bitching would equivalently Greeks be entitled to against the Turks, for their mass expulsion from regions that had been inhabited by Greeks since ancient times (such as coastal Asia Minor, Constantinople, Pontus, Cyprus etc, etc)... 29 June 2005 12:44 (UTC)`
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== HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! == ==HES AN ASS THAT LINUXBEAK IS==
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:Still pretty much non-NPOV. If someone can give solid information about this group, when they were founded, their affiliations, who is involved (organizers) and as objective an outline of their goals as possible, I think I can touch this up and make a reasonable article. This group has made the news regionally in the effort against Coca-Cola, which has been covered internationally, so they clearly deserve some sort of mention here. - 29 June 2005 17:50 (UTC)
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::Definitely. Flights between Scotland and the South of England and to and from Northern Ireland in particular are getting increasingly popular. Maybe we could mention companies like Easyjet in passing? 29 June 2005 18:36 (UTC)
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Welcome! Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *How to edit a page *Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial *Picture tutorial *How to write a great article *Naming conventions *Manual of Style *The Five Pillars of Wikipedia *Merging, redirecting, and renaming pages *If you're ready for the complete list of Wikipedia documentation, there's also Wikipedia:Topical index. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!
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` WTF are you talking about? There is no admin decision against me to not edit gender articles. I'm full allowed to edit any and all articles. Not only are you engaging in slanderous accusations, you're telling flat out lies. I'd say spreading flat out lies which have absolutely not basis in reality against other members is a violation of several Wikipedia policies, so you better be VERY careful about what you say. I strongly suggest that you retract your slanderous accusation before you further discredit yourself.Why the heck would I make changes under an alternate account when I have the full capability of doing it under this account? Also, where have I inserted any kind of right wing or religious views here? Nothing I've said has anything to do with religion nor does it have anything to do with politics. My points are extremely valid and you only rejected them because of your ridiculous personal biases and need to push your POV. Not only are transvestites not necessarily transgendered, there are quite a few people on this list who are clearly NOT transvestites even using the description given in the article itself. I have to question how anyone thought it was a good idea to add them. I should also note that you're being hypocritical here, you're reverting a change on the basis that it hasn't been discussed, when you yourself refuse to discuss it! I'd be very interested to know why a) non-transgendered people should be included on a list of transgendered ones and b) why transvestite is used as automatic criteria for seeing if someone is transgendered, even though there is nothing in the definition that indicates that. Frankly, this kind of behavior is appalling. The supposedly open minded LGBT Wikipedian cliques criticize ``right wing religious`` people (and by right-wing religious that means anyone who doesn't agree with their extremist views) is actually one of the most close-minded groups on wikipedia, with the least likely chance of actually discussing things (as evidenced here) and least likely to consider others views. 29 June 2005 22:08 (UTC)`
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` * Those numbers are based on an ``opinion poll`` (the questions asked are not available). It also defines racial profiling as ``....the targeting of individuals and groups by law enforcement officials, even partially, on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, or religion, except where there is trustworthy information, relevant to the locality and timeframe, that links persons belonging to one of the aforementioned groups to an identified criminal incident or scheme.`` The statement you keep reverting says they are stopped due to race alone, not partially. The poll respondants also presumably have no way of knowing why they were stopped by police. A police officer will not pull you over and say ``do you know why I'm stopping you? because you're `` If you want to insert qualifications stating that a disproporionate # of african-americans believe they've been stopped due, in part, to their ethnicity, it is fine with me, but as it is the foundations don't support the strength of the statement. 29 June 2005 22:35 (UTC)`
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` ::You are absolutly correct, i apologise for redirectin Aisha without consulting. And you initative about Alis geneology is far better than mine, ill move the ``family tree`` to an article resebling yours and, as you did, link to it from the main article. Again, a great initiative! ::About Aisha, dont you agree its better to redirect to ``Aisha bint Abu Bakr`` to make it fit my ``new grand scheme`` ;P ? ::Peace! :: 30 June 2005 01:37 (UTC)`
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Rowan Atkinson You have broken the three revert rule by reverting four times in a twenty-four hour period. This is to inform you that if you revert again, you will be blocked for a period of up to 24 hours. If you wish to discuss why your edit should be in the article, please take it to Talk:Rowan Atkinson and achieve a consensus before reinserting the edit. June 30, 2005 10:24 (UTC)
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` == Wrong? == Is this totally correct? I don't believe it is anymore: ``The phrase The Heart of Dixie is required by state law to be included on all state license plates.```
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You're doing it again. Stop it.
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: You're implicating the monastery where he once was with the crimes he committed. That is wrong because he was expelled from the Franciscan order after (and because) he participated in the massacre in those three villages. I have linked the exact documentation about it from his page - see the updated Miroslav Filipović page. 30 June 2005 15:46 (UTC)
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== Battle of the Black Sea? By whom? == The article lists the Battle of Mogadishu as also called the Battle of the Black Sea. I just wanted to check the source of where it is listed as such. Somalia is no where near the Black Sea (at least as it is known by most of the world). Unless the Somali's call the Indian Ocean the Black Sea?...
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Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And thanks for all the userful links.
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30 June 2005 23:36 (UTC)
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` ::What about the point that there are valid non ``race`` or ``genetics`` ways of describing the issue? Instead of ``presumably`` how about something like ``no scientific basis/consensus``? The ``thrive/environment`` point probably should mention nutrition and other possible environmental causes? The paragraph still suffers from the same problem of framing the issue exclusively in terms of ``race`` or ``genetics`` which is not right, all possible causes should describe the issue using their own descriptive terms. Why does the proposed paragraph also try to sneakily describe ``intelligence`` only in terms of ``genetic potential``? Is the author of the paragraph arguing that ``genetic potential`` is the only valid way of describing ``intelligence`` now too? What is the scientific basis for such an argument? The above paragraph is much more subtle (nice try) but is still riddled with the same errant exclusive framing of the issue around ``race`` or ``genetics``. 1 July 2005 05:08 (UTC)`
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\ \EDIT: EPEE, MORE LIKE E-PEEN AM I RITE GENTLEMENS
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You mean you fufilled your obligation by making the block last only 24 hours? Wow, what a great admin you are by partially following the rules! For the record, MediaWiki 1.5 has a bug in it that automatically renews your block if you hit edit even under your regular account. That means that if someone doesn't know they've been blocked yet and they hit 'edit', it's renwed. If they want to check the block page page again or want to see if it's expired yet, it's also renewed. The feature is supposed to only renew if you try editing under a different account than the one you were blocked under, but the bug is extending beyond that. 1 July 2005 11:40 (UTC)
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Sir, please stop vandalizing my user page. It is not impressing anyone and us considered very rude. If you continue this anti social behaviour I shall see to it that you are banned from this great coöperative encyclipedia. 1 July 2005 13:24 (UTC)
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*dongs State the location and time, if it is close enough (note must be in international waters) I will dispatch you before the halfwit below. *dongs As the coward has deleted my honorable challenge, restate it here: Your insipid attempts to delete the l0de radio hour page disgust me, you miserable shell of a half-man. Consider yourself formally challenged to an honorable duel in international waters, which I have no doubt you will slink away from like the cowardly reptile you are. Without true conviction behind your statements, you do not even deserve to have a tongue, and I yearn for the days of old where speakers of untruth faced searing-tong glossectomy and abacination. Your furtive and manaical attempts to discredit those voting to keep exposes you as little more than a drooling ocd-riddled schizophrenic and I heartily encourage you to wash your hands and pick viciously at your many pustules and then wash your hands again until the vicious cycle exposes bare skull. The stove is on. DONGS. *dongs Response from coward begins: Fine, I accept. As challenged party, I have choice of weapons and conditions. I chose pistols, and we will fight at a distance of 15 cm. The fight will tak place in three weeks time 205m off the east coast of Newfoundland. Acceptable? 30 June 2005 14:02 (UTC) Response from coward ends. *dongs As you are ignorant of even the most rudimentary conventions of honorable duelling it is my duty to inform you that it is the challenger, not the challenged who determines distance, as stated in rule #16 of the Codo Duello. You must also elaborate on the pistols to be used, otherwise I will assume any caliber semi-automatic is permissable. As you have chosen the grounds, you are also responsible for providing the boat on which the pistol duel will take place. If you are unable to find a boat with a large enough deck to accomodate an honorable duel (at least twenty paces of unobstructed space in a corridor ten feet wide) another option is that two smaller boats may be used, in calm seas. Inflatable rafts and non-motorized dingheys are not acceptable. I must commend you on selecting a cowardly weapon which greatly complicates the relatively straightforward process of an at-seas duel, you perfidious poltroon. Should you miraculously acquire vertabrae between now and the chosen date, I will gladly agree to a change in weapons, especially to epees. The time is acceptable to me. Please note that duels cannot take place within the jurisdiction of Canada, and therefore must take place at least 200 nautical miles (not standard miles) from the continental margin, to avoid breaking laws which expressly forbid dueling. I await the duel eagerly. Please offer my advance condolences to your family members. \ \EDIT: EPEE, MORE LIKE E-PEEN AM I RITE GENTLEMENS
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Perhaps you can even find someone who agrees with your POV on a message board.
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You are a coward and a fool.
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Bish, I took the full text of the Augustan poetry section and slapped it into the Augustan poetry space. You can feel free to operate on the section in Auggie, but you don't need to do any grafting over. I.e. I did the paste, but none of the drainage. 2 July 2005 12:39 (UTC)
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C'mon, I'm waiting to be blocked from editing... 2 July 2005 14:47 (UTC)
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Then why can I still edit? C'mon... block me and the other hundreds of people that edit with this IP... 2 July 2005 16:44 (UTC)
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== idiocy == You are a fucking moron. STOP REMOVING ENCYCLOPAEDIC INFORMATION. If you feel there is a POV then edit it out but stop removing entire entries, you complete fuckwit.
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What on earth does anti-semitism have to do with the notion that the US military shot down the plane, Cberlet? I am quite mystified.
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Surely the PS2 is more fun than this? lots of issues | leave me a message 2 July 2005 18:47 (UTC)
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This article, which originally appeared in the London Independent on August 13, 2002, is, I think, excellent in both sensitively disputing the official account of Flight 93 and highlighting the US media's reluctance to do so. I am unaware if the titular questions have been answered in the past three years, or whether the journalist's sources have since been discredited; Cberlet, as you seem confident that they have been, do please provide proof! Otherwise, I maintain that parts of this wikipedia article is based on American public opinion rather than fact. http://www.world-action.co.uk/independent.html
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`, which originally appeared in the London Independent on August 13, 2002, is, I think, excellent in both sensitively disputing the official account of Flight 93 and highlighting the US media's reluctance to do so. I am unaware if the titular questions have been answered in the past three years, or whether the journalist's sources have since been discredited; Cberlet, as you seem confident that they have been, do please provide proof! Please note though, my point is NOT that this article should be rewritten to claim that the flight was shot down, or even that the possibility should be mentioned; simply that inserting ``The 9/11 commission determined that`` would make this article more objective in places. Does anyone think these words word make it objectionable???`
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== MTA Pictures == I am in the process of getting approval. July 2, 2005 19:37 (UTC)
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` ==we cannot make conclusions too quickly== Yes, I would need to agree with about the satire thing. I mean it's just like saying, that the authors are applying the Mormonism is the only right religion to go to heaven after death, episode 411, ``Probably``. And there are numerous similar cases, this is simply an example of satire, or whatever you want to call it. best regards by - , on July 2, 2005 at 23:01 GMT`
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== I am Arril Mudafaqir! == I your new head of government at republic of mosquito! Check you article
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`The autumnal equinox is upon us. A new season, a new beginning, a fresh talk page. If there are any old conversations that you'd like to resurrect, feel free to copy them in here (so I can see the ``you have new messages`` notice) or reply directly inside the archive page. All the archives are on my watchlist. . == Wikiclique == (Regarding an irate comment I made in response to reading the word ``wikiclique`` on the Village Pump) I didn't mention you as one of the Wikiclique, though you seem sensitive on the subject. The word Wikiclique is an accurate description of some Wikipedians behavior. That can't really be denied. :Rather, the word ``wikiclique`` is a schoolyard insult that can only serve to infuriate the very people with whom you are trying to reach consensus. The issue you're raising on the Village Pump is important, but I feel that your vituperance is diminishing it and alienating others. If you expect civility, you must be civil yourself. . :Clearly == beta Systemic Bias section == (Regarding gathering support for removing the systemic bias from the Wikipedia) Hi, if you wish to help contribute to a beta version of a Wikipedia page section designed to counter-act Wikipedia's systematic bias, please sign the bottom of this section on the Village pump - Wikipedia:Village_pump#Systemic_bias_in_Wikipedia. If not, no worries. :I can't sign yet; I need to know more. All I gleaned from your conversation is that you feel an emphasis on things less important than the Congo Civil War and the Holocaust constituted a bias. What other articles do you feel betray this bias? What, to you, is the set of articles that, when expanded, will counteract aforesaid bias?Alternately, if you don't have a clear idea of what precisely is causing the bias, then why raise such a ruckus about fixing it? None of us know or can predict what makes you feel that the Wikipedia is biased, and we all have different ideas about what articles need emphasis. You'll need to help us out and flesh out your idea more.I think the present method (i.e., let people work as they will) is the best solution for the moment. Eventually, every important topic will get covered, even if the fanboys get to write their novels and video games into the Wikipedia first. . ::Your characterisation of my argument doesn't match with what I think. I mention the demographic make-up of Wikipedia, and how this influences the character of Wikipedia. Rather than gleaning, read the arguments carefully. I am not suggesting changing the current methods of editing Wikipedia. My idea is merely a small addendum to the many ways articles are brought to peoples attentions. == Merging Afghanistan == (Regarding my request to merge List of leaders of Afghanistan with Heads of Government of Afghanistan) Hi Ardonik - Thanks for your message. I didn't want to duel-post a template - and I hope it wasn't too much of a surprise! As you will see - there has been a lot of discussion/contention about lists of rulers etc. and what suits one person is an anathema to another. So it was ironic that another variation has been thrown into the equation. I would like to arrive at a uniform format for all these lists - and I think that it is achievable - but may not be to everyone's taste. This is how I see it:- Head of State is the 'modern' generic label for a 'ruler' of an independent state. There are some regions which are not independent states (those located in African countries, for instance) which it would be right to use the term 'rulers' for the leader. Head of Government is a generic for the primary official in the government of an independent or non-sovereign state. For clarity I like to try to avoid 'concurrency' on a single page - unless it is unavoidable, the page should comprise a single chronologically consecutive list and the phrase to present should only appear once on the page. Some lists are quite long already, and I am aware that to combine lists would put some people's backs up. But then again, to combine some and not others would be inconsistent and would vary how people approach each list. Anyway, as I say this is only how I see it. The concensus should prevail - and if hundreds of people disagree with me (rather than the odd one or two) then sobeit. I am always open to working in collaboration in the project. Hope my reasoning makes some modicum of sense. Thanks again for your message. Speak soon. :Although it doesn't sound as formal, perhaps ``List of leaders of X`` could serve the combined role of ``List of X-ish heads of state`` and ``List of X-ish heads of government.`` After all, the world leader is timeless, while the word state meant nothing before the advent of the modern nation-state. (Just a proposal. I'm not sure of precedent or what the current convention is leaning towards right now.) . ::I'm just concerned that that might sound ambiguous - and someone is bound to jump up and down about a perceived ambiguity! :::You have a good point. I meant ``leader-as-in-an-executive-office-holder-or-similar-position,`` not ``leader-as-in-role-model.`` For me, ``Leader of Afghanistan`` pretty clearly refers to the person calling the shots, and not, say, other members of the interim government or to anyone in any leadership role over there. But I acknowledge the ambiguity.I think we're stuck. English doesn't have a single clear, unambiguous phrase for the person in charge — it depends on when and where they're in charge. If I had to choose between ``heads of state`` and ``heads of government``, I would choose the latter over the former every time, even if that meant listing leaders who, in their days, were not heading what we would now call a government. . ==Logos== (Regarding the copyright status and appropriate tag for Media:Wikimedia.png and related images) It's GFDL but it's also a trademark, so can't be used in the same way as most other GFDL images. The same is true of all our logos other than the MediaWiki one which I think is PD. I was going to point you to m:Logos but I just realized that page is missing all the copyright information as well. I'll try to get it clarified. :Thanks. I've replied on your . . ==Thanks== Thanks for the birthday greetings (though it's still not till tomorrow here). Surely that should be at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by birthday? ) *Page created. Feel free to humiliate others by tricking them into revealing their birthdays and then listing them therein. . ==Link Spamming== Ardonik - I got your message about link spamming (131.191.72.23), and I'm a bit taken aback. You've mistaken my information site for a personal blog site, and removed all of the relevant external links I added. I really am glad that people like you are watching out for the quality of information here, I just think that you were a bit zealous on my part. I admit that I write my own content, and I'm trying to share it with others; but I contest that the links I added were relevant *On the State Songs page, after the listing for ``You are my sunshine``, I added a link to my performance of the song (available for free). Perhaps it would be more appropriate to upload the song ? Create a page just about the song ? I'm not sure, but I imagined that readers might want to hear the song. *On the Weblog page, I added a listing of sites where a person could get a blog for free. I'll admit that my site has free blogs, and was on the list, but is the information not useful ? *And then the Origami page, which I added a link to the book I've been writing with detailed origami instructions. Why would you delete that, when there are four other sites in the list that I tacked mine on the end of ? I spend a decent amount of time making sure that if I add anything to Wikipedia, it is useful. Honestly, I am motivated to integrate my website into the internet, but I try very hard to make sure that i
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== republic of mosquito == FAGGOT! FAGGOT! GET OFF MY INTERNET!
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Congratulations on appearing as schizophrenic as the likely owner of this ip address. I guarantee it will not be owned by the same person twice over a period of more than 3 or 4 days. Internode has well over 10000 subscribers to its broadband internet service and this dynamically allocated ip is just one of very many ;)
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:*Please put your advice on 's page as he violated lots of Wiki policies all in bad faith to block me for 55 hours. July 3, 2005 00:14 (UTC)
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== Copright violation == It looks like Afanous added large sections of copyrighted material in January 05 from this source. No one caught it at the time and there has since been a lot of new material added to it. The CopticChurch source material is highly POV, religious dogma. I'm not sure what else to do but revert to the version pre Afanous in order to remove the copyright material and POV problems. 3 July 2005 01:06 (UTC)
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` ::Enough is left in the article, including three pics, about this. As even you say, it ``may`` add significantly to our knowledge of dinosaurs, or may not. It is very greatly overplayed here, and I will revert your reversions until someone wants to hammer out a compromise. What is your own position, besides a claim about the recent splash it made? How is this discovery worth an entire section, while other major discoveries about dinosaurs receive a passing mention at best? You are not seeing the aim of my revisions, which is to focus the article on ``dinosaur.`` `
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Nevermind, it seems like someone else changed your redirect, which I have reverted back to your version and explained it in Talk:Chiba, Japan.— 3 July 2005 06:51 (UTC)
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== Historical Works Of Isaac Asimov, a Historiographical Analysis == I, Historian Stephen: “But you are telling me, Susan, that the ‘Society for Humanity’ is right; and that Mankind has lost its own say in its future.” Susan: “ It never had any, really. It was always at the mercy of economic and sociological forces it did not understand – at the whims of climate, and the fortunes of war. Now the Machines understand them; and no one can stop them as they are dealing with the Society, - having as they do, the greatest of weapons at their disposal, the absolute control of our economy.” Stephen: “How horrible!”[1] The author of this dialogue is Isaac Asimov. Similar references to the history of humanity are widely used in his literature works. The author is a well-known writer of future societies, not only in fiction but also as treatises of the ‘march of humanity’ into the future. Neither in his stories, nor in the historical essays of Asimov can one easily find references to great changes in a society through the works of great men, great ideas or greatness of an arbitrary institution. This paper will investigate the historiographical method and mode of historical writing of Isaac Asimov. The Writer: Seldom thought of as a scientist, less even as an essayist, and almost never as a historian. The famous author of some of the best-known science fiction literature... Hailed as a “Grand Master” in 1986 by the Science Fiction and Fantasy writers of America Inc., Isaac Asimov has produced over 470 books on a large variety of subjects[2]. Among his portrayals as a writer are, as listed by one of his publishers Houghton Mifflin Company, novelist, humorist, futurist, current world record holder in literary output etc. Yet, more importantly Asimov was a PhD holder in the field of chemistry, a professor in Boston University. More relevant still for the purpose of the present work is the historian persona that Asimov assumed numerous times.[3] Asimov was born in January 2, 1920 in Petrovichi, Russia to a Jewish family that emigrated to the United States. He grew up in Brooklyn and graduated from Columbia University in 1939, obtaining his PhD in the same establishment in 1948. He joined the faculty of Boston University thereafter, and remained associated to B.U., however not in a teaching capacity from 1958 on. He died in 1992, his death was later revealed to have been as a result of contracted HIV from a bypass surgery he received in 1983[4]. Despite the fact that there are various different elements to his character, Asimov was a writer first and foremost. His first publications were in the genre of science fiction, first of which was published in an issue of Amazing Stories magazine in March 1939. Asimov claims that writing had been “ . . . merely an amusement,” and that he had hoped for a few dollars to help pay his college tuition.[5] Furthermore, for the introduction of his one hundredth work, he professes that he had never planned anything at all in his writing career, and that his commercial success was an “incredulous relief.” As for his historical works he claims that they were “primarily intended for non-historians,” as his science books were primarily intended for non-scientists. He is not only an amateur that has deep interests in history, but also a science-fiction novelist, whose literature work is influenced by his knowledge of history. Asimov’s major works, the Foundation and Robot series to name a few, depict the future not through the wars and technological accomplishments of humanity but they portray the human societies of the future, with a dominant preconception of formation and function of the past societies. To name a specific case; he declares that the fictitious Galactic Empire that is in power in the Foundation Series were written with certain periods of the Roman history; “Justinian and Belisarus of the sixth century and a little bit Tiberius and Sejanus of the first century…” to be exact, in mind.[6] The Works: Isaac Asimov is interested in history not only out of personal curiosity, but he can also justify this curiosity in terms of his profession. Asimov states; “… we surely cannot grasp the significance of population, energy, technology, and other subjects today without seeing them in the context of the past.” Therefore as a professional author of science fiction, and a speculator of future societies, Asimov believes that “… without knowing where we came from, we cannot easily detect where we are going.”[7] His outlook of history is pre-deterministic and conceptualized materialistically; and for the most part simplistically. In dealing with the rise and fall of political unities, he ofte
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Hmm...I believe that almost all American farmers buy their seed from seed companies. We need to broaden the scope of this article; it shouldn't just be about sales to amature growers. July 3, 2005 15:33 (UTC)
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` :I live in the Saxon Switzerland and although the nationalist party NPD has quite some popularity in the Saxon Switzerland, I would definitely disapprove the oppinion that ``non-white`` guests should expect harrassment or discrimination here. My family hosted guests from africa, asia and north america and they nothing of the above-mentioned harrassment happened to them. In the past a turkish restaurant was harrassed by neonazis and an illegal skinhead organization, the SSS (Skinheads Sächsische Schweiz) is said to be still alive. Nevertheless I would approve the reversion of this section. Götz Fabian`
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` == islam the religion of peace???? == My mind is not able to accept the fact that islam is a religion of tolerance,humanity,love etc. why? Let me elucidate it - islam is the only religion which is spread through force or by giving some benefits to man as they will force woman & children to convert to islam.The benfits include four time marriage,divorce can be done by saying ``divorce-divorce-divorce`` & you can ``buy`` another girl & force her to marry with you by giving some money to her father.muhammad himself married to a 9 year girl when he is 60 year old fat ball (Yes muhammad is a pedophile). Some of the ugliest punishments is reserved for islam like beating to death a woman or man by stoning(as this is happening is various muslim nations),beheading,lashes etc. Womans are treated like animals & there job is restricted only to give birth to as many childs as they can(untill she dies giving birth to yet another child).They are forced to wear ``burqas`` in public & to have a white plaster on face in home. These all things attract only those people from a society who thinks that this is the ``opportunity`` to satisfy there desires.They are ofthen those individuals who have lowest ethics in life. And why muslims are spread all over the world? ,The reason is that as all societies in the world have some real opportunitists,cowards in some number then only those choose this religion,this is unlike HINDUS & SIKHS who are mainly concentrated in south asia initially(Now they are going to other parts of the world). Now some of the muslims are even not fully confident about islam, they know that in todays world practicing this religion in it's full version is not possible so they have created there own version and labeled it as ``tolerent islam`` that means that even they also knows that islam is not tolerent in it's full version. How is it possible that you pick one thing from islam as per your convenience like only jehad is picked up by muslims all around the world. Today even muslim don't trust another muslim(not to talk about another religions) most notabley is the numerous fighting between muslim countries & muslim groups like iran-iraq,balochistan-pakistan etc.This is why they are not able to achieve muslim ummah or unity of muslims. Only muslims are fighting in all around the world(as they are intolerent towards another religions) name it chechanya,palestine etc.As long as they are in minority they live quietly only waiting for an opportunity to come.And also multiplying there numbers(thanks to 4 marrigies & 10 childs per marrige).Then they start the fight for a separate homeland. One more mystery waiting to be demystified - How long can islam survives in this century ?`
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` == pakis - one of the most ugliest individuals of this EARTH & YES I mean it == It's same old case of an pseudo-intellectual & frustrated pakis. It's very easy to suppress pakis as repeated coups tells us.Poverty is not as bad for an individual as the lost of honour.Like we know that Afganistan is a poor country but they are able to expel soviets only due to there courage.But that is not the case with these pakis,as they are the breed of those who are forced to change there religion half a millenium ago by muslims others confronted them with zeal & able to save there honour. The policy of bleeding INDIA through cuts which pakis have adopted after the face saving lost to INDIA in 1971 in which 90,000 pakistani soldiers had dropped there pants in front of the World. ``Pakis`` your fate is written all over the wall - read it and accept it.`
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== Omer Fa (Fuck ya) ;-) == Hi paki what's up I am enjoying to see you jealous & being obsessed with INDIA (Your Motherland too),Yes this can happen after all you are a blessed INDIAN (As pakistan is a short lived phenomenon) grow up man(if you are) & come in mainstream & follow the path of ultimate reunification of INDIA.
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` == pakis - one of the most ugliest individuals of this EARTH & YES I mean it == It's same old case of an pseudo-intellectual & frustrated pakis.It's very easy to suppress pakis as repeated coups tells us.Poverty is not as bad for an individual as the lost of honour.Like we know that Afganistan is a poor country but they are able to expel soviets only due to there courage.But that is not the case with these pakis,as they are the breed of those who are forced to change there religion half a millenium ago by muslims others confronted them with zeal & able to save there honour.The policy of bleeding INDIA through cuts which pakis have adopted after the face saving lost to INDIA in 1971 in which 90,000 pakistani soldiers had dropped there pants in front of the World.``Pakis`` your fate is written all over the wall - read it and accept it.`
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== JIMBO WALES WONT STOP MESSING WITH MY ASS PUS == Get the fuck off my internet, worm. Get out now.
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` == Problem with pakis. == Well the real problem with pakis is that they are the coward individuals, they are the race of cowards, Why? Let me elucidate it, when muslims came to INDIA only those cowards change there religion(From Hinduism & sikhism mainly) who are afraid of them as they will beat them, whereas hindus & sikhs(those who choose not to change there religion due to fear) confronted them with power.Due to this reason pakis are not able to even talk confidently as there is always a complex in there mind about this.pakis are the opportunists always seeking ways to bleed INDIA (there Motherland too),But they are failed to realise this that we are the same people ,if we can fight with the might of englishmen then we can rip apart the pakis.Freedom is given by INDIAN nationalists to INDIA, when they saw this happening then they(jinnah etc.) form a plan(As the are opportunists) to divide INDIA as this will satify there need to have a grater share in power.Then jinnah himself said when he is about to die that ``pakistan is the biggest blunder of my life``.Pakis are now killing poor balochs as balochs are resisting pakis attempt to exploit the land through various lollypops like gwadar port etc.But as a nation created by dividing the land they should now make up there mind as further 2 or 3 divisions of pak is inevitable.``Pakis`` your fate is written all over the wall - read it and accept it.`
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::Does pork tastes like boar? I am only guessing too. 4 July 2005 00:26 (UTC) :I've heard it's sweet. 4 July 2005 00:26 (UTC)
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Shut up you faggot. 4 July 2005 01:23 (UTC)
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Shut up. I can do what the fuck I want. 4 July 2005 01:31 (UTC)
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== histories? == personally, as has been stated by others in this discussion, after reading this article needs some fairly extensive clean-up. also, adding a bunch of history to tie everything in, as well as elaborating on LDS scriptures (i.e. The Doctrine and Covenants), as well as explanations of LDS creation stories (such as the tribe of Israelites coming to America). Also include more about Jospeh Smith and Brigham Young, since they are both exceptionally important to understanding the LDS Church.
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:I was referring to only the portion about Chernobyl. I fail to see why it's absolutely necessary, unless you argue for inclusion of criticism about it. · July 4, 2005 06:45 (UTC)
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My contribution to this article was more thorough than I intended, but it was not detailed enough before. Its neutrality may be disputable, although I tried to be factual rather than polemical. Still feel more can be said about Birt though. The citations lead to it reading as a piece of academic research, which obviously is not within Wikipedia policy, though in giving some comments a factual basis I may be reasserting it. Please place any comments on my user page if you wish. 4 July 2005 14:40 (UTC)
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As a former member of the INC, I can understand the desire of critics to remain anonymous on the Internet, especially in light of the Ross Tipon lawsuit. I would like to point out that the gentleman raising this claim is anonymous himself, as he has not signed his post and if it is who I assume it is, then he is using a pseudonym which negates his claim. If the one who posted this claim wants to be taken seriously, then he should start by revealing his true identity and motivation. 4 July 2005 17:52 (UTC)
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which coincides with your history of showing bias against any non-INC religion
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