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Phoneme. Yep.
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Yeah. And goes upwards until you get the ditransitive construction.
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And then , of course , the c I guess , maybe there can be the Can there be combinations of the dit
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Discourse - level constructions.
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Yeah. The " giving a speech " construction ,
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Rhetorical constructions.
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Yes.
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Yeah. But , I mean , you know , you can probably count count the ways. I mean.
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It 's probab Yeah , I would s definitely say it 's finite.
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Yeah.
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And at least in compilers , that 's all that really matters , as long as your analysis is finite.
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How 's that ? How it can be finite , again ?
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Nah , I can't think of a way it would be infinite.
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Well , you can come up with new constructions.
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Yeah. If the if your if your brain was totally non - deterministic , then perhaps there 's a way to get , uh , infin an infinite number of constructions that you 'd have to worry about.
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But , I mean , in the practical sense , it 's impossible.
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Right. Cuz if we have a fixed number of neurons ?
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Yeah.
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So the best - case scenario would be the number of constructions or , the worst - case scenario is the number of constructions equals the number of neurons.
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Well , two to the power of the number of neurons.
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Right. But still finite.
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OK.
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No , wait. Not necessarily , is it ? We can end the meeting. I just Can't you use different var different levels of activation ? across , uh lots of different neurons , to specify different values ?
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Mm - hmm.
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Um , yeah , but there 's , like , a certain level of
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There 's a bandwidth issue ,
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Bandw - Yeah , so you can't do better than something.
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right ? Yeah.
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Turn off the mikes. Otherwise it gets really tough for the tr
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Okay um , welcome to our detailed design meeting. I'm pretty excited. Let's start it's approximately fifteen forty or something like that. Okay um the agenda we're gonna do an opening and then um I'll talk about the minutes from the last meeting , what we d discussed um , then we'll have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria. We'll look at the finances and finally a do a production evaluation and close. So , starting off with the um last the last one , oh I don't have it here um , but we talked about energy , we're gonna use a kinetic battery um , we want to use a simple chip , because we're not gonna need a a shuffle um , we're gonna need a scroll um , we're choosing a latex case w in fruity colours that's curved and um we're using push buttons uh with a supplement of an on-screen menu. And it sounded like we had set um like eight or nine buttons , including five pre-set channels. Okay ? Let's do the look and feel design presentation first.
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Right , do you wanna start ?
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Right , well we made three different prototypes and I guess we'll start with with this one. Um we have our colours not are not fixed , but this is the general shape. Um it's you hold it sort of either like like this in your left hand or you switch it over and uh it's easily adaptable to either hand. You can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone , or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand , or even I mean there's a whole variety , you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger. Uh we have the on off button at the tip , very visible , very big. We have our up and down buttons , which are also gonna be our channel selectors , and we have our little menu button here. If you push if you're just pushing these normally , they're the menu buttons , if uh the volume buttons rather. If you press select once , they become channel changing buttons. If we press select three times , the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your T_V_ channel choices shows up , and you have your five presets down here. Um if people wanna grab hold of that , see how it feels in your hand. That's our number one prototype. Um do you wanna present the potato ,
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like a little lightning in it.
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or shall I present the Martian ?
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Okay ,
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The little lightning bolt in it , very cute.
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um What We call that one the rhombus ,
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I could
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The v the rhombus rhombus ?
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uh the rhombus.
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That's the rhombus , yep.
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Um this one is known as the potato , uh it's
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it's a
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how can I present it ? It's an ergonomic shape , so it it fits in your hand nicely. Um it's designed to be used either in your left hand or or in your right hand. Um I've gone here just for just for four buttons on this one. Um the two blue buttons here are for adjusting the volume. So you've got volume up and volume down on the other side here. Um the red ones are for uh changing channels , channel up and channel down and that's um moves between your favourite channels that you've selected. Uh this middle button here brings up the on-screen menu and when you're working in the on-screen menu you use the other four buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button uh to select and that's basically it , that's the potato.
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Um on , off ?
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Uh that would be one of your channels , basically ,
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Okay.
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so like channel zero would be t to switch switch the machine off ,
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Yeah we turn it off.
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yeah.
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Could the middle button of the on-screen menu function as a power button ?
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Um not really ,
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it would make it hard to turn the machine off , to turn your T_V_ off.
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Mm-hmm.
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If you pressed and held it maybe.
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Yeah yeah , that that'd be one way of doing it , yeah. That'd work , yeah.
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If you like held it down , that would be on off.
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Yeah. On off , that's a possibility , yeah.
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Okay.
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And then finally we have um the Martian or the pear , either way. Um it's a bit different , just a little bit more of a creative feel. Uh you have the on off toggle stem on the top. We have the five preset seeds .
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And then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more three-dimensional , you have your channel changing , volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle. So , that's for your consideration as well , plus it's an interesting talking point to have standing up.
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Let's pass.
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We figured it could stand up like this on your table , if you wanted it to , if I made the bot the bottom flat.
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Uh-huh.
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Sorry , what's the yellow one in the middle ,
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Uh the menu select button.
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I forgot.
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Very interesting. I think that one's my favourite.
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So that's So that's our three prototypes. Um basically , in terms of making decisions , what we'd need to do is first of all decide on a form uh which of the three different shapes we want , then decide what kind of button layout we want , how many buttons , and then to choose what colours we want to make the buttons and if we wanna put any text on the device , like label on the buttons or put a brand name or or a logo on it or whatever.
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Mm-hmm.
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We were we were thinking that normally we'd go for fruity colours , but maybe we're also thinking that your sort of middle aged man , for an example customer , might not want a fruity coloured remote , so m maybe we'd have one version that's a bit toned down ,
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Mm 'kay.
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maybe with with less contrasts on it. Yeah , something still a little bright to make it hard to lose , but
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Would Yeah , but we don't want it to look like a kids' toy .
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yeah.
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Now that was one thing that we brought up over email. I don't know if you picked up your email , but um the f the um feature that we considered for it not getting lost.
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Yeah.
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Right. Well we were we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive , that it it's not just like another piece of technology around your house. It's gonna be somewhere that it can be seen.
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Mm-hmm.
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So we're we're not thinking that it's gonna be as critical to have the loss
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But if it's like under covers or like in a couch you still can't see it.
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It's really Would it be very difficult to um just have an external device that like I dunno , you tape to your to your T_V_ um that when you press it you ha a little light beep goes off ? Do you think that would be conceptually possible ?
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I think
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I think it would be difficult technologically ,
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Mm-hmm.
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because if your if your remote's lost it's probably under the settee and in that case you can't you can't send an infrared sing signal to it to find it ,
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Mm.
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s so it's I'm not quite sure how it would work
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That's true , mm 'kay.
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Yeah.
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and then I wonder if it's if it's more just a gimmick then anything else. Uh I mean ho how many times do you really , seriously lose your remote control and would would a device like that actually help you to find it ?
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There might be something that you can do in the circuit board and the chip to make it make a noise or something , but it would take a lot more development than we have this afternoon.
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Mm-hmm. Okay , that's a fair evaluation. Getting lost. Um we so we do we've decided not to worry about that for now. Okay 'cause well , the designs are very bright , so you're right , they're gonna stick out , but um
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So d do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality ? Um.
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I feel like this is simil or it's sort of what already exists so if we're trying to think of something sort of like new and fun , even though this is like what you're init I'm initially drawn to , just 'cause it's like comfortable and like not different. I sort of like this one , like I I don't know why , it just it's like small but still sort of like cute looking , I dunno. But I also like the b the side buttons on that one , like I think that's kind of neat.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable , sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on .
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Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off ? So then w we wouldn't have to have like a dual function ?
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Mm yeah ,
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Yeah , it's possible , yeah , yeah.
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