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Just doing a quick reality check here - is this for real or did someone
invent it to provoke a reaction from people? It sounds more like the
sort of thing you'd have heard, suitably rephrased, from the leader of a
certain German political party in the 1930's.... | 7 | trimmed_train |
6,016 | Nintendo 8 bit system, power pad, light gun (zapper), 2 controllers
Games: Supermario, duck hunt, power field, and wings.
Asking $80.
| 5 | trimmed_train |
1,129 |
The next time you go to church, you can check the better creed, that is,
have learned that on the first go around. But what's a body without
a little bit a'soul?
At the risk of offending everybody, I will interject the 13th century
point of view. Christ descended immediately into the bosom of Abraham
to set captives captive. He preached to the saved for three days before
drawing them with Him back to this earth. I'm no expert on this part,
but Matthew (27:52-53) says about the death of Jesus: "tombs were opened,
and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And
coming forth from the tombs after his resurrection, they entered the
holy city and appeared to many." (NAB) Regarding the hell of the
damned, of which you speak, Christ did not see it (Ps 16:10, Acts 2:27),
although it saw Him (cf. Is 45:2).
Concerning the abodes of the dead, I don't want to subject my brethren
to further anguish, so I will direct you to contact me through e-mail
if you are genuinely concerned.
Your new body might be something like Adam's before his fateful encounter
with the Just One (Acts 7:52, CR trans. Vulgate): filled with infused
knowledge, absent of concupiscence, and immortal. It would probably be
a little glorified, too.
I wouldn't recommend it. It's really hot down at the center of the earth!
You know, the normal geothermal gradient, and all that.
Regards.
--
boundary, the catechist | 0 | trimmed_train |
8,958 | I am creating a graphics program using the Athena widgets. I use
Xlib routines to install a custom Graphics Contex by obtaining the display,
and window variables with the XtWindowOfObject() and XtDisplayOfObject().
The object was one of the sub widgets.
The problem occurs that whenever a button is pressed or a menu is selected
the graphic contex reverts to the orginal one. I tried moving the allocation
of the graphic context before the allocation of the buttons but nothing
changed. I am preforming all of this manipulation before calling
XtAppMainLoop().
Thank you for any help.
Leslie Donaldson | 16 | trimmed_train |
3,876 | FMGs.
particularly
FMGs who are not citizens are, like all aliens, in a difficult
situation. Only citizens get to vote here, so non-citizens are of
little or no interest to legislators. Also, the non-citizen may well
be in the middle of processing for resident alien status. There is a
stron sense that rocking the boat (eg. suing a residency program)
will delay the granting of that status, perhaps for ever. | 19 | trimmed_train |
9,767 | For sale - Mazda 323
1986 Mazda 323
White exterior, Grey interior.
75,000 miles
Interior in very good condition.
Exterior in good condition
Pioneer DX 680 car stereo.
- CD player
- 18 FM presets, 6 AM
- removable faceplate
- seperate component speakers professionally mounted
in the doors.
The car has been well maintained. I wax it often and keep the interior
clean. Its a good running car with a solid body (no rust thru, tiny
spots of surface rust. When I see a spot I touch it up.) The stereo
makes the car. I have had no mechanical problems with it.
I'm looking for $900.00 firm. The car has an average wholesale value of
about $900.00 without the stereo. The stereo cost me $500.00 last July.
If you are interested, call or Email me at: | 4 | trimmed_train |
9,988 | Greetings!
Steve Summers and the Chief were on 48 Hours last night shmoozing
sports. I unfortunately missed it. Those of you who saw it, can
you please provide a synopsis.
Thanx.
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McGill University
---> I'M TOO SEXY FOR COBOL.
---> Habs...it doesn't look good!
---> Let's Go Expos!
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| Peter Peter Pumkin Eater, |
| Knew a chick but couldn't meet her.|
| Saw her brother one fine day, |
| Sucked his cock now he's gay! |
| --Andrew Dice Clay |
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10,859 |
I tell you, Steve Stone is like a prophet.
He must be making a ton in the boradcoast booth because
I can't understand why he's not actually back in the game itself.
The other day he called Sosa's homerun against the Sox and
claimed the game would be going into extra innings when the
score was 8-3 in the 5th.
So yesterday he notices that Sosa's ahead in the count against
Maddux and says, "This is a fastball situation and Sosa will be
looking for it. But this is also the spot where Maddux throws
the straight change." Sure enough. Sosa gets ahead on it and pops
it up to the infield.
Stoney for Cubs manager! | 2 | trimmed_train |
11,063 |
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Mark Brader)
MB> So the
MB> 1970 figure seems unlikely to actually be anything but a perijove.
JG>Sorry, _perijoves_...I'm not used to talking this language.
Couldn't we just say periapsis or apoapsis?
| 10 | trimmed_train |
859 | Its time for a little house cleaning after my PC upgrade. I have the following
for sale:
Leading Technology PC partner (286) sytsem. includes
80286 12mhz intel cpu
85Mb IDE drive (brand new - canabalized from new system)
3.5 and 5.24 floppies
1 Meg ram
vga congroller
kb
5.0 dos on hard drive
need to get $300 for system
AT style kb - $20
Logitech serial trackman with latest drivers $45
Amiga 500 with 2.0 roms installed and 1Mb video ram and 4Mb addon ram
501 clone (512K ram and clock)
Roctec addon disk IDE disk controller includes SCSI option
Quantum 105mb SCSI drive with lots of software
4mb ( 4 x 1mb simm) installed in roctec
Amiga DOS 2.04
ICD Flicker Fixer II
Asking $500 for system,
I will part out the amiga, make an offer!
amiga Software
Cando - $25
Textcraft Plus - $5
tetris & welltris - $5 for both
Sword of Sodam - $5
Qix - $5
Carmen Sandiego - $5
Crossword Construction Kit - $10
Canadian Prototype Replicas
CD rom Fast File System - $30
Hypermedia CD rom containing fred fish disks 1-480
includes registration card, low cost upgrades. $20
Amiga hardware Reference Man - $5
Amiga to vga monitor cable - $5
two joysticks - $5 each
Prices DO NOT include shipping.
Contact Rich Garrett
Email - [email protected]
HOME (503) 591-5466 WORK (503) 578-3822 | 5 | trimmed_train |
5,704 | I recently got a file describing a library of rendering routines
called SIPP (SImple Polygon Processor). Could anyone tell me where I can
FTP the source code and which is the newest version around?
Also, I've never used Renderman so I was wondering if Renderman
is like SIPP? ie. a library of rendering routines which one uses to make
a program that creates the image...
Thanks, Joe Tham
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9,736 | I have used both my serial ports with a modem and a serial printer,
so I cannot use Appletalk. Is there a Ethernet to Localtalk hardware
that will let me use the Ethernet port on my Q700 as a Localtalk
port. Until they come out with
satellite dishes that sit on your window & give you internet access
from your home, I won't at all be using that port. | 14 | trimmed_train |
10,329 |
I believe the beta version of the service is available via ftp on
ftp.cica.indiana.edu
in pub/pc/win3/nt called something like nwnt.zip
There is an INDEX ascii file there, which lists the programs in that directory
and what they do.
unfortunately this beta will also disable netbeui and tcp/ip over your
primary nic, so if you really want to run it, get yourself an extra nic and
bind it to that.
Otherwise wait for next release, like I am. | 18 | trimmed_train |
643 |
Brian K., guess what? You missed the point. On a scale from cold to
hot, you are at 0 degrees Kelvin.
Then as you understand it, what is it?
Yes. I agree with that. But what does that have to do with Jesus?
Punishment you say? Jesus did not regard his death as punishment.
Good. I wouldn't either--not the way you understand it.
Ask Jesus himself. He himself said why in John 12:23-32. It
isn't a mystery to anyone and there certainly is no need for
a persuasive argument. Read Jesus's own reply to your
question.
Jesus gives more reasons in John 16:7. But one obvious reason
why Jesus died, (and as with everything else, it has nothing do with
his punishment) was that he could rise to life again--so that
we would "stop doubting and believe" (John 21:27). The fact
that Jesus rose from the dead is my hope that I too will rise
from the dead. It is an obvious point. Do not overlook it.
Without this obvious point, I would have no hope
and my faith would be vanity.
Why did Jesus suffer in his death? Again, ask Jesus. Jesus
says why in John 15:18-25. That's no mystery either. "The
world hates him without reason." It is a direct proclamation
of how far we humans botch things up and thus, how much we
need a Saviour. | 15 | trimmed_train |
2,747 | I am sorry to once again bother those of you on this newsgroup.
If you have any suggestions as to where I might find out about the subject
of this letter (the origin of Morphine, ie. who first isolsted it, and why
he/she attempted such an experiment). Once agian any suggestion would be
appreciated.
CSH
p.s. My instructer insists that I get 4 rescources from this newsgroup, so
please send me and info you think may be helpful. Facts that you know,
but don't know what book they're from are ok.
ATTENTION: If you do NOT like seeing letters such as this one on your
newsgroup direct all complaints to my instructor at <[email protected]>
--
"Kilimanjaro is a pretty tricky climb. Most of it's up, until you reach
the very, very top, and then it tends to slope away rather sharply."
Sir George Head, OBE (JC) | 19 | trimmed_train |
7,826 |
A brilliant algorithm. *NOT*
Seriously - it's correct, up to a sign change. The flaw is obvious, and
will therefore not be shown.
sorry about that.
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5,248 | Hello,
I have a BC200XLT handheld radio scanner which recieves police, fire,
ambulance, aircraft, cordless and cellular phone, etc. The unit is in
original condition and comes with the manual, the power supply and
battery charger. Price is $200 plus s/h.
Austin Harris | 5 | trimmed_train |
762 |
Their Hiten engineering-test mission spent a while in a highly eccentric
Earth orbit doing lunar flybys, and then was inserted into lunar orbit
using some very tricky gravity-assist-like maneuvering. This meant that
it would crash on the Moon eventually, since there is no such thing as
a stable lunar orbit (as far as anyone knows), and I believe I recall
hearing recently that it was about to happen. | 10 | trimmed_train |
8,604 |
Sheesh! I don't know what kind of women they have where you guys live,
but there are some ladies here who will blow your doors off. Or at least
they will try to, but we just can't let the youngsters get too uppity
with us old folks :-). | 4 | trimmed_train |
6,061 | :
(lots of stuff about the Nicene Creed deleted which can be read in the
original basenote. I will also leave it up to other LDS netters to
take Mr. Weiss to task on using Mormon Doctrine to declare the difinitive
word on what the LDS Church teaches as doctrine. Hopefully the LDS
netters will be amiable in their explanation.)
Since it would do no good to rebut what Mr. Weiss has stated on the origin
of the Nicene Creed and its status as devine and inspired (I say "no good"
because it cannot be proved through discussion or debate as to whether or not
the authors of the Creed were inspired), I leave you (it will be some time
before I post again) with the following thought authored by Eugene England,
Professor of English at Brigham Young University. Mr. England wrote the
following as part of a book review section in This People's magazine (Spring
1993 edition):
"I conclude with a little sermon because I believe we will not be a Mormon--
or human--family until we can get over labeling and rejecting each other
with terms like feminist or patriarchal, liberal or conservative (Christian
or non-Christian -- Hal 8^). When we are tempted to draw a circle around
a set of beliefs and traditions and styles and call it American, then exclude
those who don't fit, it may be well to consider that perhaps the most central
defining characteristic of a good American might be "one who doesn't draw
exclusive circles" -- that the surest way of excluding ourselves from the
central American ideal is by excluding others. And when we are tempted to
draw a circle around "Mormon" or "Christian," to decide who is "orthodox"
and who isn't by how much they agree with us, it might be well to consider
that the central pillar of Christ's "orthodoxy" is our ability to love
unconditionally those who are different and include them in our family.
"I recently spent some time in a "Christian" bookstore in California. The
service was excellent, the clerks and customers all smiling, neat, and
well-scrubbed, and there were the expected wholesome offerings of scriptural
commentaries, sentimental fiction, and collections of evangelistic sermons.
But I was dismayed to find how much shelf space was given to attacking
others, often viciously---whether the political left, our modern American
culture, or other religions. A whole section was devoted to "Cults and the
Occult," and as you might expect, Mormonism was right there under the same
rubric and indictment (often by the same authors) as Satanism. And I found
I could either rent or buy (in English or Spanish) copies of The God Makers
(that absurdly inaccurate, even libelous, but very popular and dangerous
anti-Mormon film that uses exaclty the same techniques and even accusations
of the Nazi films that scapegoated Jews in the 1930s).
"It seems to me one major indication that a person is a genuine convert to
Christ and his redemptive love is his lack of paranoia and anxiety ("Perfect
love casteth out fear," I John 4:18). I have always been pleased that the
LDS Church has not engaged in attacks on other faiths, though I find a
disheartening increase in willingness of individual Mormons to engage in the
same kinds of stereotyping and scapegoating---and even threats of coercive
action---as the "religious right wing" has launched this year against the
political left and American cultural and religious styles they don't like.
It is a fearful irony that in so doing Mormons take common cause with the
very people who have most slanderously attacked Mormons---people who would,
if they had power, forcefully restrict Mormons' rights along with those of
others they believe to be evil."
The above "sermon" was addressed to the LDS audience who usually subscribe
to This People's magazine, but would certainly apply to all of us who
rely on the mercies and grace of Jesus Christ to bring us back into His
arms.
Even though the LDS Church claims devine authority to exercise the principles
of the restored gospel---as in the days of Christ, the Church does not claim
perfection and infallibility in how those with authoritative status have or do
now lead the Church. I, for one, do not wish to be labelled "Christian", if
those who profess themselves as Christians attack my beliefs because they are
intollerent (for example) of the way my religion may interpret Biblical
scriptures of the same source to have a different meaning and implication
than mainstream Christianity would give it. Once again, being in the
majority does NOT in and of itself PROVE anything except that your collective
voice is louder. That's really all the critics of the LDS Church have to stand
on in terms of the kind of Biblical interpretation used as proof to counter
the LDS Church' interpretation! Using someone elses biased research of truths
and non-truths (whose to say what the mixture is?) as an authoritative tool to
disprove or discredit is not being fair to anyone, least of all themselves.
Let us simply agree to disagree, and share beliefs through adult discussion
and conversation, thereby uplifting everyone.
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10,450 | The parable of the Prodigal Son is not about who is and who isn't an
immoral person. It is about grace and the love of God. Most people
would agree with that concerning the younger son. The elder son is
simply a negative example of the some thing. He thinks that he must
earn his father's love, that he has earned it, that he is entitled
to it. His father tells him that he is on the wrong track. He has always
been loved--for the same reason his brother has always been: he is
his father's son.
We are too performance oriented to consistently get the point. We are
willing to be saved by grace, but once we are Christians we want to
go back to earning and deserving.
"Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying
to attain your goal by human effort?" Gal 3:3 NIV | 0 | trimmed_train |
7,437 | -----Or, if you need to use a service bureau and they're only set up to use
Type 1 fonts. From what I've heard (pure hearsay) the results of outputting
TT fonts as Type 1 is _not_ as good as using high-quality Type 1 fonts in
the first place. | 18 | trimmed_train |
11,132 |
GOT HIM! Cramer is now claiming that pedophilia is a sexual orientation
rather than a chronicly homosexual condition. This changes the whole
argument in as much that is pedophilia is a sexual orientation all
of its own peds cannot be called homosexual. Peds are peds who
may have a preference as to the sex of the child they molest (though
most do not have a preference) but that is a subset of their basic
ped nature.
Cramer has as much as admitted that peds and gay men are different
orientations. All we need now is to get him to admit that
the apparent similarities he keeps on about are just optical illusions.
xavier | 13 | trimmed_train |
7,595 | NHL RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 4/14/93.
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STANDINGS
PATRICK ADAMS NORRIS SMYTHE
TM W L T PT TM W L T PT TM W L T PT TM W L T PT
xPIT 56 21 7 119 xBOS 51 26 7 109 xCHI 46 25 12 104 xVAN 45 29 9 99
yWAS 42 34 7 91 yQUE 47 27 10 104 yDET 46 28 9 101 yCAL 42 30 11 95
yNJ 40 36 7 87 yMON 48 30 6 102 yTOR 44 28 11 99 yLA 39 34 10 88
yNYI 39 37 7 85 yBUF 38 35 10 86 STL 36 36 11 83 yWIN 39 37 7 85
PHL 34 37 11 79 HAR 26 51 6 58 MIN 36 37 10 82 EDM 26 49 8 60
NYR 34 38 11 79 OTT 10 70 4 24 TB 23 53 7 53 SJ 11 70 2 24
x - Clinched Division Title
y - Clinched Playoff Berth
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Boston Bruins (51-26-7) 2 2 0 - 4
Ottawa Senators (10-70-4) 0 1 1 - 2
1st period: BOS, Roberts 5 - (Juneau) 7:19
BOS, Wiemer 1 - (Juneau, Oates) 17:47
2nd period: BOS, Neely 11 - (Juneau, Murphy) 6:10
BOS, Hughes 5 - (Richer, Kimble) 7:55
OTT, Archibald 9 - (Rumble, Lamb) 11:37
3rd period: OTT, Boschman 9 - (Kudelski) 5:10
Powerplay Opportunities-Bruins 0 of 2
Senators 0 of 4
Shots on Goal- Bruins 13 11 10 - 34
Senators 5 9 12 - 26
Boston Bruins--Moog (36-14-3) (8 shots - 8 saves) Blue (9:38 second)
(18 shots - 16 saves)
Ottawa Senators--Sidorkiewicz (8-46-3) (27 shots - 23 saves) Berthiaume
(6:36 third) (7 shots - 7 saves)
ATT-10,500
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Washington Capitals (42-34-7) 0 0 2 - 2
New York Rangers (34-38-11) 0 0 0 - 0
1st period: NONE
2nd period: NONE
3rd period: WAS, Bondra 36 - (Pivonka, Cavallini) 6:54
WAS, Bondra 37 - (Cote, Pivonka) 10:10
Powerplay Opportunities-Capitals 0 of 2
Rangers 0 of 1
Shots on Goal- Capitals 16 11 12 - 39
Rangers 8 7 8 - 23
Washington Capitals--Tabaracci (7-11-0) (23 shots - 23 saves)
New York Rangers--Richter (13-17-3) (39 shots - 37 saves)
ATT-17,897
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New York Islanders (39-37-7) 2 1 1 0 - 4
Hartford Whalers (26-51-6) 2 1 1 1 - 5
1st period: NYI, Ferraro 13 - (Malakhov, King) 1:29
NYI, Hogue 32 - (Thomas, Turgeon) 1:57
HAR, Yake 21 - (Poulin) 4:15
HAR, Yake 22 - (Nylander, Poulin) 16:44
2nd period: HAR, Verbeek 39 - (Cassels, Weinrich) (pp) 2:43
NYI, Thomas 35 - (King, Ferraro) 7:58
3rd period: HAR, Burt 5 - (Sanderson, Cassels) 13:41
NYI, Malakhov 14 - (Hogue) 17:45
Overtime: HAR, Janssens 12 - (Poulin) 1:08
Powerplay Opportunities-Islanders 0 of 3
Whalers 1 of 3
Shots on Goal- Islanders 16 8 7 1 - 32
Whalers 7 13 7 1 - 28
New York Islanders--Fitzpatrick (16-15-5) (28 shots - 23 saves)
Hartford Whalers--Lenaduzzi (1-0-1) (32 shots - 28 saves)
ATT-10,915
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Pittsburgh Penguins (56-21-7) 2 3 1 0 - 6
New Jersey Devils (40-36-7) 2 4 0 0 - 6
1st period: PIT, Daniels 5 - (Needham, Tippett) 4:14
NJD, C.Lemieux 29 - (Semak, Driver) 10:19
PIT, K.Stevens 55 - (Tocchet, Murphy) (pp) 12:40
NJD, Zelepukin 22 - (Driver, Niedermayer) 17:26
2nd period: PIT, M.Lemieux 68 - (Stevens, Tocchet) 1:42
NJD, Semak 36 - (C.Lemieux, Zelepukin) 2:27
PIT, McEachern 28 - (Jagr, Barrasso) 4:24
NJD, S.Stevens 12 - (Guerin, Pellerin) 5:45
PIT, M.Lemieux 69 - (sh) 12:40
NJD, Richer 37 - (Nicholls) 15:53
NJD, C.Lemieux 30 - (Semak, Zelepukin) 17:40
3rd period: PIT, Mullen 33 - (Jagr, M.Lemieux) 18:54
Overtime: NONE
Powerplay Opportunities-Penguins 1 of 5
Devils 0 of 3
Shots on Goal- Penguins 9 11 8 2 - 30
Devils 12 15 9 3 - 39
Pittsburgh Penguins--Barrasso (43-14-5) (39 shots - 33 saves)
New Jersey Devils--Billington (21-14-4) (30 shots - 24 saves)
ATT-14,796
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7,054 |
Actually, my atheism is based on ignorance. Ignorance of the
existence of any god. Don't fall into the "atheists don't believe
because of their pride" mistake.
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Bob Beauchaine [email protected]
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea. | 8 | trimmed_train |
2,865 | Just kidding
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2,137 | My god, hope we don't have to put up with this kind of junk all season!
How many home runs by Tartabull? Just 1, right, you must be thinking
of Dean Palmer or Juan Gonzalez (both of Texas) who each had 2 homers.
I don't know how many to follow, but he was 1 for 4.
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8,068 |
One interpretation I've heard of this verse is that it refers to the sin
of physically abusing one's wife. The husband is usually physically
stronger than his wife but is not permitted to use this to dominate her.
He must honor her as his sister in Christ. This would therefore be an
example of a specific sin that blocks prayer.
This verse also makes me think of the kind of husband who decides what
is God's will for his family without consulting his wife. God reveals
His will to both the husband and the wife. There needs to be some
degree of mutuality in decision making. Even those whose understanding
of the Bible leads to a belief in an authoritarian headship of the
husband need to incorporate this in order to have a functional family.
One way to look at it is that God speaks to the wife through the husband
and to the husband through the wife.
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2,741 |
Horrors, appealing to popular principles. Can we perhaps as the
question of whether the Constitution might have been written to appeal
to the principles, rather than, as you appear to believe, it was written
with something else in mind and "propoganda" put out by its supporters.
But let's be honest about something, here. When was the last time
you brought up all the valid points against your own arguments?
Or are they simply propogranda? We can't know what Phill *really*
means because he's obviously using arguments designed to convince.
If they're true or false, regardles of why they were said, why
on earth did you make a point of calling them "propogranda?" That
would seem to be irrelevent.
Oh, I have no argument with questioning them. I don't believe
they no longer apply, but that's because I think most of them were
good arguments. I'm not entirely happy about the situation, because
they were obviously only applied to a minority of the time, but I don't
think that alone is sufficient to invalidate them.
Since the U.S. constitution is the basis for the U.S. political
system, most changes in it would require Constitutional change. In this
particular case, however the fillibuster is a matter of procedure
and tradition. It only *should* have been made part of the Constitution. :-)
In principle no? That they had less power of that they should have
had less power?
Phill, we're discusing the power of legislative houses. While
the Prime Minister *is* member of Parliament, he is more analgous (although
badly) to the U.S. President.
Now, please explain to me how the U.S. House of Representatives
is "in principle" more powerful than the House of Lords (or the Senate)
but in practice is less. Are you suggesting that the writers of the
Constitution *really* intended for them to be more powerful, but gosh
darn the thing was ratified before they realized they'd forgotten to put
those extra restrictions on the Senate in?
Not at all. As any entry level political science course will tell
you, people who want laws implemented will always choose the level of
government to "attack" which presents them with the best chance of
getting what they want. With national "interest groups" it is simply
a very rational thing to do to want the Federal government to enact a
law rather than the states. Less people to persuade, and less
"contributions" to make.
Why do those concerned about abortion primarily concentrate at
the Federal level? Simply because if they win that battle all the little
state battlefields are won by extension. The same extends to insurance,
medicine, and most other questions.
Local government has not "failed" in that it hasn't done what it
should, but that it is dominated by local interests. Thus non-local
interests who want localities to abide by their rules can't get their
rules past the local government. Thus, since they've got more clout,
only in the wrong place, they appeal to the next higher level because
it can impose its will on the lower.
I mean, let's get real here. Do we *really* need the Congres
of the United States deciding that x traffice light should be on thus-
and such pattern? Or that *carjacking* needs to be a federal as opposed
to a local crime?
The more people want the more Congress will take power to "sell"
it to them for their votes. I don't think the rise of "special interests"
is coincidence with the increased power of Congress.
Bingo. The higher up the governmental ladder the less actual
need matters, because political power can be concentrated at higher
levels, while people with less cloud only find themselves reduced to
in effectiveness.
Then why not simply leave New York's education to New York? I
remain unconcinved that there is any state in the Union which is not capable
of educating its own children if that's what they want to do. And if
you leave it to them, you only have to worry about the "pork" in that
state. And since industries can't concentrate their political power
and wealth, rather they must divide it among the states to try and get
what they want, individual voices have more relative impact.
The problem with the fillibuster is not that you must "buy off"
states, but that the Congress has acquired too much power to sell pork.
But why on earth should we want to redirect it? You said yourself
that you have to sell pork to get things through Congress. If Congres
has less authority to sell pork and retains its authority to enact
national legislation within its granted jurisdiction, the pork problem
is significantly reduced.
The current blocks essentially state that inaction is preferable
to action, thus it the system is weighted against action. Considering
the government the usually the institution with the sole power to
enforce its decisions by force, I consider bias against making those
decisions a good thing.
The difference with the lower pyramid is that a) they have
more legal, legitimate authority in most matters under our Constitution
than the federal government, and b) at those lower levels power is
harder to concentrate. And c) you get the benefit of not imposing
new deicisons on everybody at once. You get to see them tried out
without a national decision. Congressional action usually treats the
entire country as a whole, yet even with similar problems in different
areas, different solutions may be called for.
And while I often don't agree with the decisions my local
and state reps make, at least I have a better option of going to
the city council and shooting my mouth off. I'd much rather the
majority of laws be made by accessible people who hang around and end
up having to put up with them rather than somebody far off in
Washington with half a million or more constituents.
I'm curious what you base your assumption that lower levels
are more corrupt.
Phill, *you* brought up the Federalist papers. We were
arguing the fillibuster and whether or not a minority of Senators
should be allowed to hold up a bill. You claimed the Senate was
suppose to be a far less powerful House, and I contended there was
nothing in the Constitution or other writings which indicated this.
Which was when you brought up that we can't decide what the founders
wanted based on the Federalist papers. You argued against them,
I never argued from them. I have primarily referred to the Constitution,
which places only very small restrictions on the Senate than for
the House.
The U.S. Constitution is a nuts-and-bolts document. The Delcaration
of Independence was the high-brow reasoning. (There are a couple of other
examples, though, such as the reasoning for the power to tax, and the
reasoning for the power to grant permits, both in Article I, Section 8.)
To a certain extend I do believe the veto has become something
it wasn't intended. However, I also believe it is inevitable considering
the Congress' own abuse of their power to make bills say whatever they
want them to say. Unlike most people I think we shouldn't be worrying
about the veto, which is fine, but of the problem in Congress which
almost necessitates its abuse.
*BUSH?* Phill, that's absurd. Bush had *37* vetos, one of
which was over-ridden. Go read up on FDR if you think that's
anything resembling a record.
Why not? What is inherently wrong with biasing the system
against action? Historically governemnt action in the U.S. when
dealing with issues with a bare minority and a large minority have
not been successful. When you're in a position of imposing federal
power on diverse people, why should the federal government not have to
got through something more than a bare majority
Now we're switching from a general question of a fillibuster
to a specific bill. I don't see how it make a difference.
Sure it's arguable. Theyr'e *arguing* it. However, requiring
60% to bring it to a vote ensures that they'll have to have a *good*
argument. Something that isn't based solely on party lines.
No, I am completely happy with a system which requires a minority
for *action*. Since U.S. history is a history of carving up population
groups and implementing piece-meal on minorities, I feel minorities
should have sufficent clout to prevent action they feel strongly enough
about. And 41% is hardly a tiny minority. I don't advocate the minority
being capable of initiating actionm but I see no problem with biasing
the *federal* system against action.
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11,022 |
But the interesting comparision is how fast clock-cycle chips
you can get - an Alpha is WAY slow at 66 MHz, but blazes at
200 MHz.
But the 68040 is (or will soon be) available in 40 MHz version,
making it "comparable" to a 486DX2-80
I think you have that one turned around; they have faster clock
cycles but less power behind each cycle. Not to mention that the
Intel instruction stream is BYTE-oriented (longest Intel instruction
is 15 bytes; what an odd number :-) which makes it hard to do any
intelligent memory subsystem.
Cheers,
/ h+
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9,687 |
As I'm sure others will have pointed out to you by now, none of the above
measures are required for you *on your own property*. You do not have to
have a license, your car does not have to be registered or inspected, and
you do not have to have insurance or safety training classes, when you own
and operate that vehicle on your own premises. If you are going to make use
of this dubious analogy, at least make it accurate. And by the way, in Texas
you can drive a car in public (with the proper credentials), but an ordinary
civilian can't carry a gun legally in public to save his/her life.
So I won't even consider registration, *manadatory* safety classes, or
*manadatory* liability insurance unless I get a federal law repealing
all local, state, and federal gun control laws which abridge the Second
Amendment, and a non-discretionary federal weapons carry permit, good
anywhere in the United States. Come on, you wanted the analogy.
Mike Ruff | 9 | trimmed_train |
128 | When are the Yankees planning on activating Melido Perez? His 15 days on
the DL are up today, but are they bringing him back this weekend? | 2 | trimmed_train |
5,461 | Searched without luck for a FAQ here. I need a left 85 Aspencade
mirror and Honda wants $75 for it. Now if this were another piece
of chrome to replace the black plastic that wings come so liberally
supplied with I might be able to see that silly price, but a mirror
is a piece of SAFETY EQUIPMENT. The fact that Honda clearly places
concern for their profits ahead of concern for my safety is enough
to convince me that this (my third) wing will likely be my last.
In the mean time, anyboby have a non-ripoff source for a mirror?
keith smith [email protected]
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2,315 |
All very true. I'm going on what I have read and heard from friends.
Basically the Glock is great but I have heard/read that it is a lot harder to
learn proper handling because of the type of safety that it has. I was
looking at a Glock .40S&W and the S&W 4006 a couple of weeks ago and the
safties on the guns were very different. The saftey on the 4006 seemed a lot
more "safe" (for lack of a better word) than the one on the Glock. Of course
this could also be a bad thing if you were to pull the gun on somebody. You
would spend more time fiddling around turning the safety off. Personally I
like the Glocks because they are very light and I think they look really cool
(guess that's why they use them in so many movies) but I wouldn't get one as
my first semi-auto because of the safety. I would prefer more training with
a "traditional" semi-auto (ala Colt .45) but of course that's just my opinion. | 9 | trimmed_train |
8,248 | As a matter of interest does anyone know why autos are so popular in the US while
here in Europe they are rare??? Just wondering..... | 4 | trimmed_train |
11,123 |
Why should we pay your predictions any heed, considering
you couldn't even predict the proper matchups? Maybe
you should try forecasting the weather instead. | 17 | trimmed_train |
8,255 |
I was not discussing "universal" definitions in this post, Mark. Please
refrain from dragging in irrelevancies.
Do you agree with my statement above about physicians being unqualified if
they can't determine viability?
And that's good enough for the law, Mark. So why do you keep whining that
viability "isn't defined"? What purpose does your whining serve? | 13 | trimmed_train |
2,955 |
Well, let me put it this way, based on my own experience. A
general practitioner with no training in infectious diseases,
by establishing links to the "Lyme community", treating patients
who come to him wondering about lyme or having decided they
have lyme as if they did, saying that diseases such as MS
are probably spirochetal, if not Lyme, giving talks at meetings
of users groups, validating the feelings of even delusional
patients, etc. This GP can go from being a run-of-the-mill
$100K/yr GP to someone with lots of patients in the hospital
and getting expensive infusions that need monitoring in his
office, and making lots of bread. Also getting the adulation
of many who believe his is their only hope (if not of cure,
then of control) and seeing his name in publications put out
by support groups, etc. This is a definite temptation.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 19 | trimmed_train |
1,481 |
Why all the quote marks, Roy? I can see that they might be appropriate where
there is a legitimate concern that the words are being distorted by context,
or that they have been appropriated Newspeak-style, but, reading your comments above,
one might be excused if they assumed that you were claiming that "child abuse",
"forced" sexual activity, and "damage" caused by this is non-existant or
greatly overblown.
"Positive experiences", indeed!
-Paul Elliott
(Member in good standing of the Optilink Mafia)
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8,660 |
By law, they would not be allowed to do that anyhow.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 19 | trimmed_train |
1,464 |
I'm afraid he isn't. They are a hypocritical lot. | 9 | trimmed_train |
11,270 |
@ From: Kayhan Havai # 1026
@ --------------------------
@
@ o Dr. Namaki, deputy minister of health stated that infant
@ mortality (under one year old) in Iran went down from 120
@ per thousand before the revolution to 33 per thousand at
@ the end of 1371 (last month).
@
@ o Dr Namaki also stated that before the revolution only
@ 254f children received vaccinations to protect them
@ from various deseases but this figure reached 93at
@ the end of 1371.
Something funny happens to the percent sign. In paragraph
above, the vaccination rate went from 25 percent to 93 percent.
- Farzin
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1,675 |
Seems to me that I read in either a recent NY Times
Science Times or maybe it was Science News that there is
evidence that ex-smoker's risk of lung cancer never returns
to that of a person who has never smoked (I think it may
get close). I'll find the article and post it since my
memory is hazy on the specifics - if you are interested. | 19 | trimmed_train |
6,360 | Is it not the case that, in the eyes of the law, when someone is aware of
something and has the capability of taking action and does not, that individual
may be held responsible for that action?
Example: the driver of a getaway car may be held as an accomplice to murder.
The "I didn't know" defense spawned the "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
When an individual is held as a material witness to a crime, is there a criminal
charge against the individual? If not, on what grounds is the person imprisoned?
| 15 | trimmed_train |
8,606 | Hi all News Group users:
Does anyone know whether there is some software which will let one do
Text to Speach like the Sound Blaster does?
Hal Adam, [email protected]
| 18 | trimmed_train |
5,008 |
It's always possible, but if this is the case, I think that there is some
blatant discrimination going on here. Clearly Selig is allowing the opposition
to use pre-1920 baseballs against the Dodgers.
And almost more impressive was that he also got an intentional walk.
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We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length
[email protected] Paul Andresen Hewlett-Packard (503)-750-3511 | 2 | trimmed_train |
2,486 | If you are interested in (any of) the following, please contact me:
EMail [email protected]
Phone (703)552-4381
USMail Michael Beck
1200 Progress Street #5500E
Blacksburg, Virginia 24060
~~~~~~~~~~FOR SALE as of 12AM 4/16/93~~~~~~~~~~
1 PANASONIC AF X8 CCD OmniMovie Camcorder
VHS HQ
High Speed Shutter
Flying Erase Head
ca. 3 years old, but only used VERY lightly
Date/Time stamp
Counter/Memory
Rec Review
Fade
Back Light
Auto/Manual Focus
Built in microphone/Jack for external microphone
Comes with:
Sturdy aluminum/hardplastic carrying case
(20" long X 13" wide X 6" high)
Shoulder strap
Power adaptor/battery charger
Battery pack
Remote recording controller
UHF/VHF ---> cable adaptor
Audio/Video cables and adaptor
Aproximate dimensions (measured around outmost features)
15" long X 4" wide X 8" high (w/ handle)
ASKING PRICE: $BEST OFFER ($700 new price)
1 AMIGA 3000UX 25mhz, unix compatible machine w/100 meg Hard
Drive, 4 meg RAM, no monitor, keyboard (ESC and ~ keys
broken)
ASKING PRICE: $1500 OBO.
mult. PROTEON P1390 token ring cards
SOLD!! AT&T Portable Cellular Phone, Model 3730
ASKING PRICE: $SOLD FOR $350 (Listed at $600 new) | 5 | trimmed_train |
9,401 |
The author of Wcl (or the current care taker). His is the only name I found
in the dist tree. I have tried to mail him at: [email protected],
but the mail bounced back.
Any help in finding him will be greatly appreciated.
Try
[email protected]
david%[email protected]
Xtian.
| 16 | trimmed_train |
9,037 | HELP MY FRIEND AND I HAVE A CLASS PROJECT IN WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE
A COMPUTER ANIMATED MOVIE OF SORTS WITH THE DISNEY ANIMATION AND WOULD
LIKE TO PUT WHAT WE HAVE ON A VCR IS THIS POSSIBLE? IS IT EASY AND
RELATIVELY CHEAP? IF SO HOW? WE BOTH HAVE 386 IBM COMPATIBLES BUT ARE
RELATIVELY CLUELESS WITH COMPUTERS IF YOU COULD HELP PLEASE DO.
THANX.
--
BRANT RITTER
-----------------------------------------------------
moshing-- "a cosmic cesspool of physical delight."
-A. Kiedas
RHCP | 1 | trimmed_train |
5,498 | I'm giving up hardware design and
am selling my Oscilloscope:
BK Precision Model 1541B
40 MHZ Dual-Trace
Barely Used
$450 firm (Fry's sells it for $589+tax)
Prefer people in Silicon Valley, so I don't have to ship it. | 11 | trimmed_train |
9,768 | ^^^
Wow! Courses in Georgia are much cheaper. $85 for both.
The list looks good, but I'd also add:
Heavy Boots (work, hiking, combat, or similar) $45 | 12 | trimmed_train |
10,005 |
Just as a matter of interest, a self-promo computer graphics sequence
that one of the local TV stations used to play quite a lot a couple of
years ago showed a 3D flyover of Australia from the West coast to the
East. The clouds were quite recognisable as fuzzy, flat, white
Mandlebrot sets!! | 1 | trimmed_train |
3,504 | Hi all,
I have a DLL in which I Register a class and create a window of that
class type. Both calls require a module instance handle, hInstance.
Petzold's 3.1 book says that it is best to use the module instance
handle of the calling program, not the module instance handle of the
DLL (page 934).
I have two questions:
1) Is there a way to find out the module instance handle of a module?
2) What are the possible problems with using the instance handle of
the DLL?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
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Bull HN Information Systems Inc. phone: (508) 294-2049
300 Concord Road MA30 - 815A fax: (508) 294-3807
Billerica, MA 01821 USA
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7,783 | With the continuin talk about the "End of the Space Age" and complaints
by government over the large cost, why not try something I read about
that might just work.
Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
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3,839 | ...
In reply to mail queries; I don't know if a video is available yet. I asked
about a month ao and was told RSN.
Several have also asked which of Chomskys books. My answer is ALL of them, and
anything else you can get as well. How ever, due to irritations like the 24 hr
day etc, I would say 'Manafacturing Conscent' first, them th last parts of
'Detering Democracy' ie the bits about the "domestic 3rd world". Chilling.
Anyone at MIT have a good St. Noam bibliography? | 7 | trimmed_train |
158 | he
Are we talking about ColorView for DOS here?
I have version 2.0 and it writes the temp files to its own
current directory.
What later versions do, I admit that I don't know.
Assuming your "expert" referenced above is talking about
the version that I have, then I'd say he is correct.
Is the ColorView for unix what is being discussed?
Just mixed up, confused, befuddled, but genuinely and
entirely curious....
Uncle Fester
| 1 | trimmed_train |
7,090 | {Send follow ups to comp.sys.mac.advocacy. Sorry about the header but the
Pnews here does not let one easily change the headers and I gave up after a
year of trying. This sheet is also available by FTP on sumex-aim.stanford.edu
(36.44.0.6) in the info-mac/report as mac-ibm-compare177.txt.}
Mac & IBM Info-Version 1.7.7
The reason for this general data sheet is to consolidate and condense the
information out there, so that people in both camps can be clear and accurate
about what they are saying about their machines. Since computer technology
is always changing there are always going to be points in which the sheet will
be lacking or incorrect on information. So, please just don't say the sheet
is incomplete or incorrect but also give me clear and concise information to
make the needed corrections. All prices are in US dollars.
To keep this data sheet organized please provide, if possible, article
citations for the information provided or corrected and keep the opinions to
a minimum. As this is a general data sheet, keep the info provided simple so
I can understand what is being talked about and can explain it to others.
Finally, keep the information relevant to the section corrected {For example,
OS code in ROM is software contained in hardware, so no more of the 'but it
is supported in OS disk software' data for the hardware section, please}.
Thank you.
Note: for proper reading off line this document should be in 9 point Monaco.
Special thanks to [email protected] (Chihuahua Charlie),
[email protected] (Andrew Klossner), [email protected] (Peter Bell),
[email protected] (Bill Coleman), [email protected] (Carl B Jabido), d88-
[email protected] (Jon Wtte) [email protected] (Ephraim Vishniac),
[email protected] (Faisal Nameer Jawdat), [email protected]
(Gabriel Sidler), [email protected] (Julian Harris),
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected] (Matt Healy), [email protected] (Mark Allerton),
[email protected] (John H. Kim), [email protected] (Mel
Martinez), [email protected] (Nan Zou), pwagner%us.oracle.com,
[email protected], [email protected] (Wolfgang Strobl),
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected] (Jay C. Beavers), Lewis
[email protected], [email protected] (Bradley Lamont),
[email protected] ("Cerro, Joseph A"), [email protected] (Mel Park),
[email protected] (Jeff Logullo), [email protected] (Robert
Irlbeck), and [email protected] for providing some of the information that made
this list possible.
Contents
CPUs
Hardware
Monitor support
Expansion
Operating system
OS Number Crunching
Networking & Printing
The CPUs
Note: I am only showing Motorola & Intel CPUs used in Mac and most IBM/PC
clone machines. For example, since Apple never used the Motorola 68008 and
68010 in the Mac these chips are not listed. Years only appear with dead CPUs
and indicate first to last year used as a CPU.
Cache note: both IBM and Mac use caches external to the CPUs. These external
caches increase the speed of the CPU but are not a part of it. In most of
the present Macs there are external caches built-in while with IBM they are
optional {Though machines are generally sold with them installed}. Since
there are many different external caches {CPU-Mac and IBM; SCSI, video, disk
and static RAM-Mac}, each having a different effect on CPU performance, and
they are machine {32KB static RAM cache in IIci, IIfx, and IIvx}, seller
{cache card installed in some IIcis} or expansion {IIci cache cards go up to
128KB} dependent, I have decided to leave them out of the list.
Note: ALU is industry's de-facto standard for CPU bit classification.
IBM ALU Registers External CPU Features/
CPU bus address cache Notes
8088(6) 16 16 8 (16) 20 none {1981-9} {198?-9}
80186 16 16 16 20 none {198?-9?} segmenting
80286 16 16 16 24 none 80186 + Protected Mode
80386 32 32 32 32 none MMU & 32-bit Protected Mode
486sx 32 32 32 32 one 8K 80486 - FPU
80486 32 32 32 32 one 8K 80386 & FPU
486dx2 32 32 32 32 one 8K doubled internal clock rate*
486dx3 being demoed. 20/60 MHz, 25/75 MHz, and 33/99 MHz planned.
Pentium 32 32 64 32 16K code, CISC chip with RISC-like
5 16K data features, 2-issue superscalar,
[P 5] 386 Write-Back, 64-bit
FPU path, pipelining; Speed:
SPECint92: 64.5; SPECfp92:
56.9**
386sx: 386 chip with 32-bit internal/16-bit external architecture.
286 and 386sx chips can address to 16MB maximum RAM.
386sl: low power(3.3V) 386sx with built-in power management. Used mainly on
laptops.
386slc: IBM 5V 386sx with a 16k on-chip cache added (John H. Kim). As far as
John H. Kim knows it is only used on IBM models.
486slc: Neither of two chips that have this name have a FPU. Cyrix: basically
486sx in 386sx socket with 1k cache and improved integer math speed. IBM:
equivalent to the 486sx except it has a 16k on-chip cache.
* ex. for 486dx2/50, chip runs 50 MHz rest of machine runs at 25 MHz.
***(PC Week 04/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:138) "The latest in a line of CISC chips"
(PC Mag 4/27/93:110) Samples released March 22, 1993, but machines will not
be announced until at least May 1993 (PC Week 2/08/93). $1000 a CPU; systems
$5000 and up (PC Mag 4/27/93:110).
Mac ALU Registers External CPU Features/
CPU bus address cache* Notes
68000 16 32 16 24 none {1984-1993} 16MB limit**
68020 32 32 32 32 256 code {1987-1992} parallel processing
68030 32 32 32 32 two 256 68020 + MMU, 16K burst mode
68LC040 32 32 32 32 two 4K 68040 - FPU
68040 32 32 32 32 two 4K MMU, FPU, pipelining, doubled
internal clock rate***
68050 development discontinued in favor of 68060
68060 32 32 32 32 Branch 68040 + a better FPU,
target superscaler pipelining, cache
line bursts, equivalent
capabilities & speeds to
Pentium*#
*includes data and instruction {code} caches. The 68030, 68LC040, & 68040
have built-in caches for both.
**68000 Mac designs created a 4MB limit.
***The 040 has 2 clocks, an internal processor clock [PCLK] that is 2x freq of
external bus clock [BCLK] which is the one used to rate the chips
(Bradley Lamont; Motorola 68040 data book). Some compilers produce programs
sensitive to the PCLK and so they act as if the 68040 was a clock doubler
chip, but this very compiler and program dependent. Compliers maybe written
to allow programs to take consitant advantage of the 68040's PCLK in the
future. As it is now, studies such as one in a Byte article {which showed
040/25 ~486/50 and roughly ~486dx2/50} are very dependent on the machine, OS,
and programs tested and as such are not representative of general performance.
*#Motorola claims (PC Week 09/07/92; 09/14/92).
As the PowerPCs are to be in both IBM and Mac machines I have listed them
separately to eliminate redundancy. They are Motorola CPU RISC chips.
PowerPC ALU Registers External CPU Features/
CPU bus address cache Notes
MC98601 32 32 32 int 64 32K Speed: SPECint92: 50;
[601] 32 fp combined SPECfp92: 80*
I/D
MC98603: low power MC98601 for desktop & portable systems. Out by end of 1993.
[603]
MC98604: high performance MC98601 for high end machines. Out by 1st Q 1994.
[604]
MC98620 64 64 32 int 64 32K Out by mid 1994.
[620] 32 fp combined
I/D
*(PC Week 04/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:138). Select venders were sent sample
MC98601 chips by Motorola 2/93 (PC Week 2/08/93), and some NuBus boards
containing early samples of PowerPC 601 have been given to Apple's "A-list"
developers (PC Week 12/7/92; MacWeek 12/14/92). MC98601/50MHz-$280;
MC98601/66MHz-$374 (PC Week 4/12/93). Systems: ~$3500 with ~$2000 versions
out by mid 1994 (PC Week 4/12/93).
CPUs Comparison List
As a general rule of thumb Motorola chips are faster than Intel chips at the
same frequency {030/25 ~= 386/33; 040/25 ~= 486dx/50}, but Intel has chips at
higher frequencies than Motorola, so this evens out. The Macintosh Bible 4th
ed. supports the comparisons between Intel and Motorola chips for the 68020
and above.
<=80186 ~ 68000 {16-bit vs 16/24/32-bit chip [data path/address
lines/data & address registers]. The 4MB limit on the 68000 Macs brings it
down to the 80186 and lower chips, otherwise it would compare to the 80286.}
286 ~ 68020 {hardware segmenting vs. 68020's 32-bit ALU and these chips
come have no usable built-in MMU unlike their successors [80386, 68030]. The
hardware segmenting's protected mode is used by OS/2 1.0 => and Windows 3.X.
The use of the hardware segmenting and their 16-bit nature put the 286 between
the 60000 and 68030 in features and the LC's 16-bit data path strenghthens the
286 ~ 68020 comparison.}
386 ~ 68030 {Two 32-bit chips with MMUs, and protected memory. A/UX 3.0
is at present the only Mac OS to use the 68030's protected memory feature for
apps. System 7.x uses this feature to protect a RAM disk created by the
Memory control panel but this is supported only on Powerbooks and Quadras.
The Color Classic and LCII 16-bit hardware data paths makes the 68030s in them
comparative to 386sxs.}
486sx ~ 68LC040 {same as 486 and 68040 without the FPU; used as a low cost
solution for people who do not need the FPU. Only with programs sensitive to
PCLK & pipelining does the 68LC040 behave like 486dx2 - FPU or a '486dx2sx'.}
486 ~ 68040 {two 32-bit microprocessors with built-in FPU, MMU, 8K
internal cache (which is implemented as two 4K caches in the 68040 and one in
the 486). Only with programs sensitive to PCLK & pipelining does the 68040
behave like a 486dx2.}
Pentium ~ 68060 {Both are planned to be superscalar but both have heat
problems. These chips may flounder against the cheaper (PC Week 3/08/93;
4/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:110), earlier released (PC Week 12/7/92; MacWeek
12/14/92; PC Week 2/08/93), less leat producing {160 degrees F for Pentium
(PC Mag 4/27/93:118)}, and partly ported to PowerPC chips.}
PowerPC = PowerPC {This CPU line is planned to run programs from DOS,
Windows 3.x, OS/2 and Mac OS on top of PowerOpen-A/UX 4.0 [UNIX] and later
Pink [Taligent OS] by using emulators or, if necessary, the OSes themselves in
a 'shell' a.k. how SoftPC or OS/2 does DOS.}
Hardware
{In an effort to remove the 'reconfiguring the system almost every time you
add something' requirement for add-in cards, drivers, video, and operating
systems in the IBM world, Intel, Microsoft and 12 other hardware and software
developers are working out 'plug and play' standards (PC Week 03/08/93).}
Color Support/Display
Mac: 30.24 MHz Pixel Clock standard. All present Macs support the use of
32-bit color through 32-bit color QuickDraw in ROM. 32-bit color QuickDraw
allows an almost transparent capability to display and edit X-bit images in Y-
bit color and retain ALL the colors of Y-bit color [Where X and Y
independently are 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, or 32] regardless of monitor resolution {63
dpi [12" color] to 94 dpi [PaletteBook]} or monitor type {including
autosynchronous VGA, MCGA and SVGA monitors with ranges including 66.7 hz
vertically and 35 kHz horizontally and only a hardware video adaptor (MacUser
Aug 1992: 158-176). Older machines that supported color {SE/30, II, IIX, and
IIcx} had only 8-bit color in ROM and needed a software patch to use 32-bit
color (MacUser Special 1993:28-29).
To keep costs down and speed up most Macs have only 8 or 16 bit display
capability built-in, but most of those can be expanded to display 24-bit
color. Presently QuickDraw is optimized for 72 dpi display; QuickDraw QX
will change this.
In addition, QuickDraw allows, in Macs with a NuBus slot, more then one
monitor to be used in any combination, from two monitors showing the same
thing to multiple monitors acting as one large large monitor with any degree
of overlap of the pictures.
VRAM: Video RAM. Standard for present non-PowerBook Mac's handling of
built-in video {from a 32-bit color palette}. VRAM provided runs a 8-bit
color 640x480 display; expandable to 16-bit color or a 8-bit 832x624 display.
Sound output: Standard in all Macs since the 128K. Stereo sound became
standard with the SE/30.
IBM: Even though PCs have ROM BIOS definitions of how the operating system
interacts with the video hardware (Nan Zou), the use of drivers bypassing
BIOS, video hareware inconsitancies {see Super VGA below} and nonstanderzation
of clone BIOS have left resolution of video display hardware, OS and program
interaction up to the OS and video hardware in question (Faisal Nameer
Jawdat). In addition, IBM and clone makers never bothered to provide a
standard hardware mechanism for software to determine what display mode is
actually present (Matt Healy) nor a standardized screen-drawing toolbox {like
Mac's QD}. As a result the OS must be very well written to detect some modes,
especially with some third party cards or to use them consitantly {At present
things are so dependent on the interaction of the program, OS, print driver
and monitor card that editing 32-bit pictures regardless of color mode, OS,
and monitor type/card combination as one can do on the Mac is impossible with
an IBM. For example, one cannot edit a 32-bit color picture done on a OS/2
486 with a SVGA monitor on a 386 with VGA {18-bit color palette} and DOS 5.0
and still have ALL the colors one started out with}.
Later IBM machines will have integrated graphics accelerators, faster
processors, and modular upgradeability and may have built-in sound cards, CD
ROM, and Ethernet (PC Week 12/14/92).
MDA: Monocrome Display Adapter
original character-mapped video mode, no graphics, 80x25 text.
CGA: Color Graphics Array
320x200 4 colors or 640x200 b/w, 16 color palette, bad for the eyes.
EGA: Enhanced Graphics Array
640x350 16 colors from 64 color palette [and some lower res]; some versions
could run at 256 colors, bearable on the eyes.
VGA: Video Graphics Array*
320x200 at 256 colors, 640x480 at 16 colors, and some others, these two are
the most commonly used. All modes have a 256K CLUT, from a
18 to 24-bit {IBM} or a 32-bit {Mac} color palette. 25.175 MHz Pixel Clock
(Mel Martinez). Monitors use analog input, incompatible with TTL signals
from EGA/CGA etc.
MCGA: Multi-Color Graphics Array*
subset of VGA that provides all the features of MDA & CGA, but lacks some EGA
and VGA modes, like VGA 640x480x16 (Dictionary of Computer Terms-DCT).
Common on the initial PS/1 implementation from IBM and some PS/2 Models.
SVGA: Super VGA*
This is not a standard in the way the others were, but instead was a 'catch
all' category for a group of video cards. As such, with each manufacturer
using their own implementation scheme, SVGA was chaos with people debating
as to what is SVGA and what is not. In an effort to make SVGA more of a
standard VESA was established and is used in the newer units, but things
are still a mess. Video is either 512K [~1990] or 1M [today], resolution
of 800x600 and 1024x768 at 16 and 256 colors are common, newer ones [since
1990] have the Sierra HiColor RAMDAC, giving 15-bit 32,768 colors at 800x600,
some of the very newer ones [~6/92] can do 24 bits per pixel [usually
at 640x480]. Speedwise, too much variation, some very slow [Western Digital
Paradise based, for example], some very fast [S3 86C911 based, for example],
some are so-so [like Tseng ET4000, a very popular chipset]. Some limiting
factors overcome by 40MHz VL Bus & 386's linear address mapping were:
8.33 MHz ISA bus, AT architecture where the CPU looks at the card through a
64K "window", etc.
Other non-SVGA standards:
8514/a:
IBM's own standard, interlacing graphics accelerator with graphics functions
like linedraw, polygon fill, etc. in hardware. Some clone implementations
from ATI are the fastest video available today, though some clone models do
not have interlacing.
TMS34010/34020: high end graphics co-processors, usually >$1000, some
do 24-bit, speeds up vector-oriented graphics like CAD.
XGA: eXtended Graphics Array
newer and faster than 8514/a, only available for MCA bus-based PS/2s, clones
are coming out soon. Emulates VGA, EGA, and CGA (DCT). Max resolution at
1024x768x8b, same as 8514/a, also some 16 bpp modes.
XGA-2
Accelerates graphics functions up to 20 times faster than standard VGA in
Windows and OS/2, including line draws, bit and pixel-block transfers, area
fills, masking and X/Y addressing. Has an intelligent way to detect and co-
exist with other XGA-2 cards, so multiple desktops like on the Mac may not be
far away. Since this is an architecture, its resolution and color depth
isn't fixed {IBM implements only 16-bit [65,536] color, while other
companies can have 24-bit color through IBM technical licenses}. Refresh
rates up to 75 Hz, ensures flicker free, rock solid images to reduce visual
discomfort, and is VGA compatible. Up to 1280x1024 on OS/2.
*some monitor types usable by Mac-See Mac section above for specific details.
Expansion
Both Mac & IBM
SCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM.
Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card
expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM.
Main problem: there are a lot of external devices which are internal
terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port
{A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and at the
end. Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}.
SCSI-1: 7 devices per SCSI controller. 8-bit asynchronous {~1.5MB/s ave}
and synchronous {5MB/s max} transfers. Difference is due to SCSI-1 software
drivers. "Fast SCSI-1" is a misname for 8-bit SCSI-2 in SCSI-1 mode
{see SCSI-2 for details}.
SCSI-2: 10 devices per SCSI controller in SCSI-2 mode. SCSI-2 is fully
SCSI-1 compliant and 8-bit SCSI-2 tends to be implemented as a very fast
SCSI-1 since it does not require the different controller interfaces in
hardware and software that 16 and 32-bit SCSI-2 do. Transfer speeds are
4-6MB/s with 10MB/s burst {8-bit}, 8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst {16-bit}, and
15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst {32-bit/wide and fast}. Since 8-bit SCSI-2 can
use SCSI-1 software drivers and hardware at 8-bit SCSI-2 speeds and as such
is limited to 7 devices sometimes it is mistakenly called "fast SCSI-1".
16-bit fast SCSI-2 requires a SCSI-2 software driver and SCSI-2 electronics
but can still use the SCSI-1 ports. Wide 16-bit and 32-bit SCSI-2 require a
different SCSI port, electronics, and software driver from SCSI-1 {Which
makes them more expensive than other SCSI interfaces}.
Mac SCSI: asynchronous SCSI-1 built-in standard since the Plus. Even though
Apple developed some specifications for SCSI controlers, the OS SCSI Manager
needs to be rewritten to take full advantage of the features of both SCSI
interfaces. As a result present SCSI-2 Macs use 8-bit SCSI-2 as a fast
asynchronous SCSI-1. Presently Quadras are the only Macs with a SCSI-2
controller chip built-in (Digital Review, Oct 21, 1991 v8 n33 p8(1))
though they lack some other parts of the hardware, like the wide SCSI-2 port
interface. Since other Macs require a NuBus card to use SCSI-2, older NuBus
Macs had a bottleneck due to the speed of the NuBus and CPU. Rumor-some
Cyclone Macs {June} will come with a wide & fast SCSI-2 port standard
and have a rewritten OS SCSI manager.
IBM SCSI: SCSI-1 is not too wide spread yet, generally not bundled with
systems, except as add-on {EISA and VESA Local Bus adapters avalable}.
Like the Mac, 8-bit SCSI-2 is used as a very fast SCSI-1 by most controllers
out there. Unlike the Mac, IBM has no exact SCSI controller specifications
which results in added incompatibilities for SCSI.
Mac
Memory expansion: with a few exceptions the Mac has used non-parity 30-pin
8-bit SIMM memory expansion since the Plus. While 32-pin 9-bit parity SIMMs
could be used in these Macs, only special IIcis could make use of the parity
feature {By convension both SIMM types are called 32-pin SIMMs}. The IIfx
used 64-pin parity SIMMs. The LC III, C610/650 and Q800 all use a new
72-pin SIMM that is accessable by 32-bits at a time and is used in IBMs.
The Mac does a complete memory check at startup by writing/reading every
memory location; if something is seriously wrong with a SIMM the Mac will
not boot and give a sound chord indicating what the problem is.
Since Macs made before Feb 15, 1993 managed memory baced on data path, SIMMs
had to be installed in pairs {16-bit} or in sets of 4 {32-bit}. The Centris
650 and Quadra 800 eliminate this with a new memory management setup that
allows memory to be upgraded one SIMM at a time. If the SIMMs are the same
size are used then the memory is 'interleaved' across the two SIMMs resulting
in a 10-15% performance boost on RAM access (MacWorld Apr 93: 108-109).
Printers, ADBs, and modems: built-in interfaces standard.
Monitor interface and sound input: built-in on most present macs.
PDS: Available in SE & all present non-Powerbook Macs. 16-bit {SE,
Portable, LC, LC II, Classic line} and 32-bit. Operates at CPU's MHz.
Maximum through put: data path in bytes*CPU's MHz {Q700/900 & C650:
4 * 25Mhz = 100MB/s; Q800 & Q950: 4 * 33Mhz = 132MB/s}. Standardized with
the LC and 040 bus designs. With an adapter one NuBus card can be used in
IIsi and C610. Problem: some cards have timing dependency which slows
through put down.
NuBus Mac II: 32-bit, 10 MHz bus clock, 1-to-1 transaction/bus cycle ratio,
and contiguous, hand-shake transactions at ~10-20MB/s; theoretical peak:
40MB/s. Built-in on all Modular Macs except the LC series, C610, and
Performa 400. The SE/30 could be adapted to use this and there was even a
Mac Plus SCSI NuBus. Supports every possible expansion from CPU to Ethernet
to DMA.
NuBus 90: NuBus Mac II back compatable. 20MHz bus clock, avg throughput:
~30MB/s; burst mode: 80MB/s. Future card designs will be 7" instead of the
old 12".
QuickRing: A peer-to-peer bus used in parallel with NuBus 90. Apple's
VLBus - "Architecture is identical to that of VLBus" (Byte 10/92:128).
Burst mode: 350MB/s (Byte 10/92:128). In development.
CPU expansion: handled either through the PDS or the NuBus. Unlike PDS,
Nubus CPU cards {example-Radius Rocket} allow use of multiple processors at
the same time. This is like having two or more Macs in the same box able to
dual task or joinly process depending on the card or software involved {Each
NuBus card needs its own memory but most NuBus cards of this type come with
8MB RAM SIMMs on the card standard}.
IBM
Memory expansion: parity SIMMs, non-parity SIMMs {some newer models do a Mac-
like SIMM memory check}, or a dozen or so different types of memory boards.
HD Interfaces {limited to hard drives by design or lack of development}:
MFM: Modified Frequency Modulation, RLL: Run Length Limited
only used with smaller [² 60mb] hard drives.
IDE: Integrated Device Electronics
Asynchronous {~5MB/s max} and synchronous {8.3MB/s max} transfer.
currently the most common standard, and is mainly used for medium sized
drives. Can have more than one hard drive.
ESDI: Enhanced Small Device Interface
~1.25MB/s throughput. generally considered better interface than SCSI-1 in
many ways but not common enough for practical consideration. Outside of
hard drives, device choices are very limited compared to SCSI-1.
BUS interfaces
{New 'plug and play' ISA and EISA compatable cards may have problems working
with old cards (InfoWorld; PC Week 03/08/93; Vaporware 4/93).}
ISA
8 & 16-bit interfaces common. Has 24-bit data path limit {which produces a
16MB limit for which there are software workarounds} (PC Mag 4/27/93:105).
1.5 MB/s (Byte 3/93:132). Uses edge-triggered interrupts, can't share them,
hence comes the IRQ conflict. Limited busmastering capabilities, some cards
aren't bandwidth limited {COM ports, LPT ports, game ports, MIDI card, etc.}
while others are {video and disk controllers}. Dominant factor, but it's
showing its age. Most ISA motherboard designs are 16-bit
(PC World Feb 1993: 144-5)}.
MCA {Micro Channel}
IBM's 16 and 32-bit bus; "allows use of more than one CPU in a computer"
(DCT) and anything can talk to anything, as fast as the two components
involved can handle it. Never took off because it was incompatible with ISA
and EISA. Planned to be bus interface of IBM PowerPC 601 (Carl Jabido).
EISA {NuBus Mac II is closest Mac equivalent}
32-bit, 8.33 MHz, burst mode: 33MB/s. It also has the ability to
self-configure cards like MCA and allows multiple bus masters, sharable
interrupt and DMA channels and multiple CPU use.
VESA Local Bus: VLB {Sometimes mistakenly refereed to as PDS}
Local Bus standard. Runs at CPU clock rate, Burst modes: ~130 MB/s{32-bit}
250 MB/s{64-bit} (Byte 10/92:128). Limited to three slots but allows bus
mastering and will coexist with either ISA or EISA. Consitered ideal for
video and disk I/O. DELL has filled a claim that this violates one of
their patents (Mel Martinez).
QuickRing: Apple's faster {350 MB/s burst} version of VLB architecture
(Byte 10/92:132). Might show up in some IBM and PowerPC machines
(Byte 10/92:132-133). In development.
PCI
Intel's version of Local Bus that is intended to totally replace
ISA/EISA/MCA. In development.
OSes {assumes full installation [print drivers, fonts, Multifinder, etc.]
and multiple application use.}
Mac
512K to 1MB of OS and hardware commands have been put into ROM. This allows
Apple to control its machine by putting key hooks for the Mac OS {QuickDraw,
menu commands, print, mouse, SCSI & sound drivers, etc} in ROM, which require
clone makers to use the ROM chip or read ROM on to disks {Which requires
access to the proper Mac since different Macs have slightly different ROM
chips; Plus vs Classic for example.} With key hooks for the OS support
interface in ROM, programers do not have to worry as much whether the disk OS
has the necessary hardware commands or that those commands are consitant and
therefore can write smaller programs. This also allows Apple greater control
over hardware-software standards and that the disk OS can be smaller and, with
some of the tookbox command code in ROM, with lower RAM requirements then a
totally disk based OS. Macs use Masked ROM which is as fast as DRAM (Jon
Wtte).
6.0.7: Single program usage base requirements: 1 MB and DD floppy,
cooperatively-multitasking base requirements: 2MB and HD floppy.
Features a GUI, cooperative-multitasker [MultiFinder], standard program
interface, & standard stereo sound support [snd]. Network receiving part of
AppleShare software is bundled with the OS. Has a 8MB RAM barrier and is a
24-bit OS. Some third party products allow 14MB of Virtual Memory as long as
real RAM is below 8MB.
6.0.8: 6.0.7 with 7.0.0 print drivers.
6.0.8L: System 6 for some Macs that require System 7.0.X.
7.0.X: Base requirements: 2MB, 40MB Hard Drive, and 68000; De-facto standard
to run all features well: 4MB, 80MB Hard Drive, and 68030 {lowest present
non-portable Mac configuration}. Using up to 10.08MB {This is EVERYTHING on
system disks} of hard disk space this has 6.0.7 features plus program linking
within and between computers [IAC], built-in server capabilities {Filesharing
can be used by older OSes using AppleShare Client software and can be
accessed by 10 macs max; 4-5 is more speed practical, IAC requires 7.X},
Virtual Memory in machines with MMU{1.6 times real RAM for least noticeable
IIsi speed degradation}, drag and drop, QuickTime & built-in TrueType
support. Supports sound input [AIFF and snd formats] for most present
machines. Can access up to 1GB of true RAM and 4GB of virtual memory and is
both a 24 and 32-bit OS. To use real RAM beyond 8MB it must be in 32-bit
mode and on older machines requires the 'Mode 32' extension. Apple's last
'free' OS.
7.1.0: 7.0.1 with WorldScript support, speedier, and less RAM usage than
7.0.dot (MacWeek 8/24/92; 9/14/92; PC Week 9/7/92). To run in 32-bit mode
on older machines it requires the 'Mode 32' or '32-Bit Enabler' extension.
Marks the start of Apple saling its Mac OS instead of allowing free upgrades
{Bundled with new machines, $49 for 7.0.X upgrades, $99 otherwise}.
[The installer has a bug that when upgrading it may keep some old system
fonts from the previous system inside the system file. This can eat up any
RAM benefits and cause other problems. Apple itself recommends removing all
fonts from the system file.]
A/UX 3.0 [UNIX]: Needs 8MB RAM {12-20MB suggested}, 160MB hard drive, and
a 68030 or 68040 equivalent to run. This 32-bit preemptive multitasking OS
is large due to being UNIX and needing translators between it and the Mac
ROMs. Price: $709.
Note: sound output was supported in OSes 3.2 to 6.0.5 by many formats
including the following: snd, WAVE, ASND, FSSD, QSSN, SMSD, SOUN, dc2d, and
DCFL. In 6.0.7 the sound manager was optimized for the sound standards 'snd'
and AIFF which causes some playback problems for the old formats, though most
still play.
IBM
Machiness have little GUI code, data, and hooks present in hardware for
programmers to work with, so most of the coding must be provided in the OS.
Since hard disks were slow the disk OS code is read into RAM. In addition,
what little ROM code there is also read into RAM {a process called Shadow ROM}
This results in faster implementation since RAM is faster then PROMS or
EPROMS. Having most of the OS code on disk has the advantage of being able to
better optimize the code given a certain piece or collection of hardware which
is harder with a ROM based system due to the 'patches' needed. In addition it
reduces the need for and size of patches if a major revision of the hardware
support is needed.
Side note: The FTC charged that MicroSoft formed a OS trust by not providing
all feature documentation for its OSes to developers outside MS and designing
its Windows and DOS apps to fail under OS/2 ("Undocumented Windows") and
"There is deliberate code in [Windows] NT Beta which causes the install to
abort if OS/2 Boot Manager is present" (Gregory Hicks, Info-IBMPC Digest V92
#201). Due to a conflict of intrest by one member the vote of the FTC
judicial council for action against Microsoft was a tie which resulted in no
action. Rumors-the FTC will presue the matter, likely to the point of
choosing a new member or whole new council. In addition the government has
turned down Microsoft's copyright of "Windows" which would allow it to charge
a fee for developers using their hooks (PC Week 03/08/93).
MicroSoft OSes
DOS 5.0: Has a 640K barrier with its own memory manager, a 1 MB barrier
with third party memory managers. This 16-bit OS requires that each program
must provide its own print drivers and be 16-bit {Programs need to be DOS
Protected Mode Interface (DPMI) compliant and running on a 386dx [32-bit
Protected Mode] to break these barriers}. Contains the GUI shell present in
DOS 4.0.
DOS 6.0: DOS 5.0 with the added features of a built-in file compresion, disk
defragmenter, debugger for the CONFIG.SYS file. It needs a $80 module for
networking {Cost: $50 through 5/93, after that $129.99}
(Byte April 1993:44-46).
DOS 7.0: 32-bit DOS. In development (PC Week 04/05/93).
Window 3.0: Runs on top of DOS. Breaks 640K and 1M barriers but still has to
deal with DOS file structure. Base requirements: 1MB, floppy and 286; to
run well 2MB, hard drive, 386sx and fast display adapter {> 8-bit}. Has the
equivalent of Mac's QD called Windows GDI [Graphics Device Interface].
This does not have a consistent application interface {Like early Mac
programs (1984-1985)} nor a very large program base {compared to DOS} and
still tends to slow the machine down (Info-IBMPC Digest V92 #186) with speed
is more dependent on the display adapter then on the CPU (Bill Coleman).
Window programs tend to be disk and memory hogs compared to their DOS
counterparts (Byte April 1993:98-108).
Window 3.1: A faster version of Window 3.0 with better memory managment. Base
requirements 1 MB, hard drive and a 286 ;to run well 2MB, hard drive, 386sx.
Apple plans to release its print drivers for this (PC Week 12/28/92).
Windows for Workgroups: To run well: 4MB RAM and 386dx (PC World Feb/93:160).
Intermediary between Win 3.1 and Windows NT. It is basically Windows 3.1
with built-in peer to peer networking support.
Windows NT: Beta release takes about 50MB of disk space [including the
swap file], and 12MB RAM {Betas are notorious for RAM usage especially in
the interaction between debuging code and program compliers, hence the
reports of 24MB requirements}. Released version supposed to need 8MB RAM
but, Gates himself now recommends 16MB RAM (PC Week 04/15/92).
This 32-bit OS has Protected mode multitasking, multithreading, symmetric
multiprocessing, a recoverable file system, and 32-bit GDI. Has built in
networking that is OSF DCE compliant and can handle up to 4GB of RAM. Even
though some people see a July 4 release date (InfoWorld Nov 16/92), rumor
is that the final version will not be available before Oct 1993
(InfoWorld May 25/92; July 6/92; Vaporware 07/92; 08/92) or 4th quarter 1993
(PC Week 09/28/92). Windows upgrades will be $295, otherwise $495
(PC Week 04/15/92; 03/15/93).
Other OSes
PC-DOS 6.0: IBM's version of DOS 6.0. It runs Windows much faster then DOS
6.0 due to faster file I/O and video handling (InfoWorld Feb 1, 93).
DR DOS 6.0: same as DOS 5.0 with some extras {like built-in data compression}
and memory management enhancements. Still has 640K/1MB barrier. A later
version {Novell DOS} of this may use a version of the Mac finder and Apple
file management system (PC Week 12/14/92; InfoWorld Dec 14/92).
OS/2 2.0: Unix like features and unix like requirements; 8-16MB RAM,
60MB {uses 17-33MB} hard drive, and 386dx CPU. This 32-bit multithreaded,
multitasking OS can address up to 4GB of RAM but has to use a fast swap file
to use more than 16 MB RAM on ISA systems using DMA {Direct Memory Access}.
IBM plans to use Taligent's OOPS in future versions of this
(InfoWorld Oct 26/92).
AIX: IBM's UNIX system, planned to be a subset of PowerOpen and Taligent OS.
NeXTStep: GUI UNIX to provide NeXT features on IBM machines. Beta out, final
version to be out by May 25, 1993.
Solaris OS for x86: a SunSoft port. A 32-bit OS with symmetric
multiprocessing and multithreading, built-in networking capabilities with
tools to allow remote configuring and adminstration features, and
communication package. Client: $795, 50 users server: $1,995, 1000s users
server: $5,995. Developer kits-software: $495, hardware: $195.
Mac 7.1 [working name: Star Trek]: Apple had System 7.0 running off Intel
Chips and is looking at making a 7.1 version available for IBM
(ComputerWorld Nov 2/92; MacWeek 03/22/93). At present this is planned to run
on top of Novell's DR DOS, require a 486 or equivalent to run and that apps
will need to be recompiled (MacWeek 03/22/93). Viewed as Novell's answer to
Windows NT. The complexity of PC hardware set ups is one reason for slow
progress {This seems to Apple/IBM's way of leading to the PowerPC line out in
late 1993/early 1994 and Pink OS in late 1994-early 1995.}
PowerPC
Rumor-IBM will build its PowerPC 601 by late 1993 (InfoWorld June 8 & 15, 92;
MacWeek 7/13/92; PC Week 3/15/93). It will have MicroChannel bus and XGA
video (Carl B Jabido), and will run native version AIX and Mac apps (PC Week
3/15/93); there have been no comments on compatablity of DOS or Windows apps.
Apple's PowerPC 601 machine {Tesseract} is planned to be out Jan 24, 1994 and
to have MC98601/50 MHz, 4/8MB RAM, a 2.8-Mbyte floppy drive and expected to
sale near LC line prices {~$2000, down from projections of ~$3000 (MacUser
9/92:146)}
(MacWeek 3/22/93).
PowerOpen [A/UX 4.0]: A 32-bit preemtive multitasking OS planned to run on
PowerPCs and 68030/40 Macs (MacWeek 7/13/92). Intel compatibility uncertain
(See Mac 7.1 above). Planned base requirements: 68030, 8MB RAM, 80MB hard
drive (MacWeek 4/19/93). Rumor-ahead of schedule; COULD be out by mid 1993.
Rumor-this could be the OS for IBM's PowerPC 601 which is due by late 1993.
Pink [Taligent OS]: Expecting delivery in 1994 (Wall Street Journal 1/12/92)
and may have some parts shipping in OS/2 and AIX in 1993 and Mac OS and
PowerOpen with the PowerPCs (MacWeek 01/25/93).
Windows NT: Possible port (MacWeek 04/05/93). See IBM OS section for details.
Solaris OS: Version of this Sun Microsystems Inc UNIX OS to run on the
Power PCs in 1994 (MacWeek 04/05/93). One of the few OSes to directly state
that it will run Windows/DOS programs. IBM OS section for details
NeXTStep: possible port see IBM OS section for details.
OS Number Crunching (Mel Park)
Mac
Arithmetic is done in a consistent numerical environment {SANE or Standard
Apple Numerics Environment}. Floating point numbers are 96 bits long when an
FPU is present and 80 bits otherwise. Exceptions, such as dividing by zero or
taking the square root of a negative number, do not cause an abort but are
handled in a logically consistent manner. 1/0 produces the internal
representation for infinity (INF). 1/(1/0) produces zero. The above treatment
of 1/(1/0) occurs in an FPU-equipped machine even when SANE is bypassed and
the FPU programmed directly.
IBM
Floating point numbers are 80-bits with a hardware FPU, 64-bits when
emulated. The way they are handled is dependent on the coding of whatever
compiler or assembler was used for a program. On older DOS complilers
exceptions could cause program aborts; 1/0 and 1/(1/0) would abort to the DOS
prompt at the point where they occured. Most present compilers handle this
better. Result: there is little consistent handling of numbers between DOS,
Windows and OS/2 programs nor between programs for just one OS.
Networking [Includes printing]
WYSIWYG printing can be a problem with either Mac of IBM machines especially
if one sends TrueType fonts to a older style PostScript printer.
Mac
Hardware: Built-in LocalTalk network port and a built-in printer port.
LocalTalk has moderate speeds (230.4 Kb/s) requires special connectors for
each machine ($15 and up) and can be run off of either the printer port {to
include very old macs} or the network port {standard today}. Built-in
Ethernet is becoming common but many older Macs require a PDS or Nubus card at
about $150-$300 for each machine. These cards provide three connectors and
transceivers {thick, thin, and 10BaseT} for Ethernet.
The Macintosh Quadra family and some Centris models includes Ethernet
interface on motherboard, with transceivers available. TokenRing has been a
network option since 1989.
Software: AppleTalk {the suite of protocols} standard with Mac OS, which can
use variety of media types. AppleShare client software included with the OS
as well and can connect to file servers such as Novell Netware, 3Com 3+Open,
Banyan Vines, DEC Pathworks, Apple's AppleShare servers, System 7 File Sharing
machines, and AFP servers running on variety of UNIX hosts. MacTCP allows
typical TCP/IP communications (telnet, ftp, NFS, rlogin). A later version
will have Unix X/Open Transport Interface (XTI) built-in by the end of 1993
(MacWeek 04/12/93). Third-party software to connect to NFS servers. DEC
Pathworks provides DECnet support. Peer-to-peer file sharing software
built-in to System 7.1 (See OS section). Full server software is extra.
Printing requires connection of the printer and the printer being selected in
the chooser. Changing printers is by selecting a different name in the
chooser. The same is true of connecting to servers.
Printing bugs: Monaco TrueType font is different then the screen bitmap font.
{QuickDraw QX is suppossed to fix this and similar problems.}
IBM
Hardware: LocalTalk [not widely used], Ethernet, and TokenRing.
Software: Novell Netware, Banyan Vines, DECNet, Windows/Work Groups, AppleTalk
protocols, and AppleShare {subset of AppleTalk}.
Each of the MS-DOS networking schemes are, in general, totally incompatible
with the others. Once you have chosen one, you are pretty much locked-in to
that product line from then on. Windows/Work Groups is a little more
forgiving and removes some of this problem. Novell Netware is the biggest,
{~80 percent of the corporate market.} and in general is more powerful and
offers better control/management/security than AppleShare, but it's also more
complex to set up and manage. This will change due to the use of the Mac
finder and file management system by Novell. (PC Week 12/14/92 & 12/28/92;
InfoWorld Dec 14/92; MacWeek 3/22/93)
Printing {Very OS dependent}
DOS: If it's a single user, then you plug the printer into the parallel port,
and don't worry about it {Tweeking may be needed with poorly written
software}. Network Printing is not controlled by the system, but is mostly
implemented by the actual program, therefore performance varies from one
software program to the next.
Windows 3.x: supports standard drivers and can do a good job of showing "jobs"
in the print queue, but it always lists printers as "active"... even if they
are not. This becomes a problem if there are several incompatible printers
on the same net, because there's no way for software to reliably determine
which printer is active right now. Windows for Workgroups is more Mac-like
and intelligent about this.
OS/2: Mac-like; the os deals with printers, with apps making calls to the OS.
Printing bugs: due to poor programing some programs for all the above OSes do
not have WYSIWYG printing. This is the fault of the programs in question and
not that of the OS involved.
Price issue: This is very dynamic with Mac providing more build-in features
than IBM and IBM being more 'get only what you need' then Mac and price wars
by both worlds.
The IBM machines' modualar nature prevents any kind of true hardware
standarization, which in turn requires OSes and programs to be very complex to
handle ALL the variation in hardware. When one adds all the standard Mac
hardware features to an IBM {built-in input/output sound support, SCSI, PDS,
built-in monitor support, built-in networking, standard mouse interface, and
NuBus 90 in higher machines} the Mac tends to be cheaper then an equivalent
equipted IBM machine {Especially since some IBM monitors can be used with Macs
which cuts some more of the Mac's cost (MacUser Aug 1992:158-176)}.
Some prices using some of the info in this sheet and MacUser April 1993.
All Macs below come with a PDS slot, VRAM, and SCSI-1 built in. Except where
noted, monitor is extra and a built-in monitor interface is provided {no card
needed except for 24-bit color display}.
IBM planned a $1,200 386SLC/25MHz model with a 60MB hard drive and color VGA
monitor {~VRAM} (MacWeek 8/17/92) {sounds like a Color Classic without SCSI-1,
sound support, built-in network support, FPU socket, built-in expansion to
16-bit color, etc}.
Color Classic: $1,389 - 030/16MHz with 16-bit data bus {~386sx/20MHz
equivalent}, 4/80, FPU socket, and built-in monitor.
LCIII: $1,499 - 030/25MHz {~386dx/33MHz equivalent}, and 4/160.
Centris 610: $2,899 - 68LC040/20MHz {Depending on the program ~486sx/40 or
~'486dx2sx'/20[40]MHz equivalent}, 8/230, built-in ethernet, 300i CD-ROM, a
PDS/NuBus 90 slot and VRAM for 16-bit color.
Centris 650: 040/25MHz {Depending on the program ~486dx/50 MHz or 486dx2/50
MHz equivalent} with a PDS and 3 NuBus 90 slots. $3,189 {ethernet, 8/80};
$3,559 {ethernet, 8/230}; $3,999 {ethernet, 8/230, CD-ROM, VRAM for 16-bit
color}
Bibliography notes
'Vaporware' is available in the digest/vapor directory by FTP on sumex-
aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6] and was by Murphy Sewall {last issue: April 93.}
'Info-IBMPC Digest' back issues are available from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil in
directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC>
'Dictionary of Computer Terms 3rd ed.' (ISBM 0-8120-4824-5)
These are the facts as they were known to me on 4/15/93 and may be changed by
new developments, announcements, or corrections. Corrections to the
information are welcome.
Please email corrections to
CompuServe ID: 72130,3557
AOL: BruceG6069
Internet: [email protected]
Final note: Since there is NO comp.sys.ibm.pc.advocacy group this has been
posted to the closest relevent groups {comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,
comp.os.os2.advocacy, and comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc}. Also since some Mac vs IBM
articles have been showing up in comp.sys.mac.hardware I have included that
newsgroup in the posting. {Don't site the comp.sys.mac.* FAQ as a reason not
to post to comp.sys.mac.hardware, since the FAQ itself does not follow
internet guidelines, especially the de-facto "[all] the FAQs for a newgroup
hierarchy should be posted to ALL newsgroups in the hierarchy" standard.}
"Eliminate the impossible and what ever remains, no matter how improbable,
is the truth" -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through Sherlock Holmes in The
Adventure of the Beryl Coronet, The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, Sign of
Four and The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans. | 14 | trimmed_train |
4,531 | Afraid I can't give any more info on this.. and hoping someone in greter
NETLAND has some details.
A short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention
about how the Japanese, using what sounded like a gravity assist, had just
managed to crash (or crash-land) a package on the moon.
the article was very vague and unclear. and, to make matters worse, I
didn't clip it.
does this jog anyone's memory?
| 10 | trimmed_train |
3,723 | Minolta FD 50 mm lens for sale. Good condition. Asking $30. | 5 | trimmed_train |
1,582 | Anyone here know if NCD is doing educational pricing on these software
packages for those of us strapped for cash?
Thanks
=eugene=
s
| 3 | trimmed_train |
11,161 | Greetings:
Here is a list of items for the 3B1 which I am selling:
dBase III - Full dBase III multiuser Development/Runtime for 3B1!
Microsoft Basic Interpreter - Gives 2.5 Megabytes RAM available!
Microsoft Word - Full featured mouse-based multiuser word-processor.
Microsoft MultiPlan - Nice multiuser spreadsheet program.
GSS-Chart - Nice graphical program for creating business charts.
LPI-C - A robust C compiler. I'll throw in LPI-DEBUG:single-step,alter vars.
AT&T Electronic Mail - Very nice Office-based front end to mail.
I'll take $500 or best offer for the whole bunch. I bought all of these
new in 1985, and paid over $2,000 for these excellent programs.
I'd rather sell them together, but don't hesitate to make me an offer for one.
I'd consider possible trades. I'm interested in the following 3b1 Hardware:
Ethernet Card with or without Software
Tape Backup
External Expansion Unit
Upgraded P5.1 motherboard (Or just info on who can do the P5.1 upgrades)
ICUS 2nd hard drive upgrade kit
AT&T 513bct, 610, 615, or 4415 terminals with the UNIXPC-style keyboard
Make me an offer.
Bob Ames
[email protected]
707-546-0669
PS: I can get UNIX PCs with 40M Drives and 1M Motherboards loaded with 3.51m,
cnews, smail, trn, rn, elm, nethack, gzip, HDB, and a couple other things
for about $550 each plus shipping. Let me know if you're interested. | 5 | trimmed_train |
3,894 | I need some advice on having someone ride pillion with me on my 750 Ninja.
This will be the the first time I've taken anyone for an extended ride
(read: farther than around the block :-). We'll be riding some twisty,
fairly bumpy roads (the Mines Road-Mt.Hamilton Loop for you SF Bay Areans).
This person is <100 lbs. and fairly small, so I don't see weight as too much
of a problem, but what sort of of advice should I give her before we go?
I want her to hold onto me :-) rather than the grab rail out back, and
I've heard that she should look over my shoulder in the direction we're
turning so she leans *with* me, but what else? Are there traditional
signals for SLOW DOWN!! or GO FASTER!! or I HAFTA GO PEE!! etc.???
I really want this to be a positive experience for us both, mainly so that
she'll want to go with me again, so any help will be appreciated...
Thanks,
-Bob- | 12 | trimmed_train |
3,845 |
No it didn't. The motto has been on various coins since the Civil War.
It was just required to be on *all* currency in the 50's. | 8 | trimmed_train |
3,961 | Okay, here is my configuration:
80486-33 Gateway 433C Micronics ISA
12MB RAM
WD212MB IDE HD ( drive C: )
ST3144A 125MB IDE HD ( drive D: )
Adaptec SCSI 1542B controller, with SCSI BIOS enabled
Seagate ST296N 80MB SCSI drive
Alrighty, when I boot up I get the Adaptec BIOS message, but it says
something like:
"Drive C: installed"
"Drive D: installed"
"ADaptec SCSI BIOS not installed!"
And I can't get to the Seagate drive.
I go into PhoenixBIOS setup, remove the entry for drive D:, and BOOM, I can
access the Seagate. Is there a way to get two IDE drives and the Seagate
at the same time? I have ASPI4DOS.SYS, but it just hangs the system. | 3 | trimmed_train |
8,814 | For Sale:
Fitted car cover specifically for '91',92,'93 MR-2.
Top of the line Evolution-3 [TM] fabric. Used for less than 6 months.
The cover is in excellent condition-no rips, cuts, stains or other
blemishes. It has grommets for a locking cable. The color is silver.
Price: $90 f.o.b. will ship collect
please contact [email protected]
or phone at | 4 | trimmed_train |
3,670 | 11 | trimmed_train |
|
6,495 | sm[?]>a real Christian unless you're born again is a very fundamental biblical
sm[?]>conversion and regeneration are 'probably' part of some small USA-based cult
Some of these "cults", which seems like a rather dismissive term
to me, are pretty big here in the USA. Most of them
are quite respectable & neiborly & do not resemble Branch Davidians
in the least; confusing them is a mistake. What about "live &
let live", folks? I'm sure we can uncover a few extremist loonies
who are Catholic -- the anti-abortion movement in the USA seems to have a
few hard cases in it, for example.
I have to agree Matthew with this; I have certainly encountered a lot
of anti-Catholic-religion propaganda & emotion (& some bigotry) from
members of certain religious groups here. They also practice their
missionary work with zeal among Catholics in the United States, but to
someone who is or was raised Catholic such rhetoric is pretty
off-putting. It may work better in an environment where there's a lot
of popular anti-clericalism.
Follow-ups set elsewhere, this no longer seems very relevant to Celtic issues
to me. | 15 | trimmed_train |
1,334 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Your ignorance is obvious from your posting.
1) Cyprus was an INDEPENDENT country with Turkish/Greek inhabitants (NOT a
Greek island like your ignorant posting claims)
2) The name should be Cyprus (in English)
next time read and learn before you post. | 6 | trimmed_train |
4,476 | : I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question. If not,
: please forgive me and point me in the right direction.
: Does anybody know of a program that converts .GIF files to .BMP files
: and if so, where can I ftp it from? Any help would be greatly
: appreciated.
: Please respond via e-mail as I do not read this group very often.
: Thanks...Scott
Sorry Scott, if you post it here, you can read it here. There is a shareware
program available via anonymous FTP that will suit your needs. You'll find
it at OAK.OAKLAND.EDU in the subdirectory pub/msdos/graphics. The file is
called "GRFWK61T.ZIP." | 1 | trimmed_train |
7,247 | =>There is a free unix, linux, that has cc, ~c++, fortran ( f2c ),
=>Xwindows and many other features besides, with a large number of utilities
=>that can be optionally added. And there is also a free 386BSD I believe.
=>Both these unix's are quite robust. You can check out comp.os.linux
i dunno about linux, but for 386bsd, don't forget networking
(well tested, at that), NFS, a fast, incredibly stable filesystem,
and the list goes on... 8-)
for us 386bsd folk, look in comp.os.386bsd.*.
chris
moderator of comp.os.386bsd.announce, anti-politician, and sometime evangelist
--
Chris G. Demetriou [email protected] | 18 | trimmed_train |
10,602 | Hello,
I am testing a port of X11R5 to Coherent, a unix clone OS for Intel architecture
machines. I am seeing a strange problem with text in clients like xvt (a simple
terminal emulator program).
The problem manifests it self when the shell echoes typed characters back to the
server for display, one at a time. The characters appear to be too closely
spaced, with the result being that the 2nd character echoed destroys the
rightmost edge of the first character, then the 3rd character destroys the
rightmost edge of the second character, and so on. It looks like there is an
invisible boundary around a character which obscures a portion of the previous
character. There is no problem between the characters when the shell returns
a complete line of text... only when the output is a series of individual
characters.
If anyone has any ideas what the problem might be, or where I should look to
find it, it would be much appreciated.
Regards and thanks, Jon Dhuse.
| 16 | trimmed_train |
2,449 | Mark Wilson responding to C.D. Tavares:
MW>|So the laws exist, and the penalties are as you say, but nobody is ever
MW>|prosecuted under these laws. They are "traded away" for easy pleas.
MW>Having such gun laws on the books is still better than nothing.
MW>What would the DA have traded away in order to get the guilty plea if the
MW>gun law had not been in effect.
Our liberty?
Right...don't even think about enforcing the law and imposing the prescribed
penalty....let's hose the citizens instead.
---
. OLX 2.2 . Madness takes its toll - please have exact change
| 9 | trimmed_train |
66 | Also note (from <[email protected]> and <[email protected]>):
% whois -h rs.internic.net tis-dom
Trusted Information Systems, Inc. (TIS-DOM)
3060 Washington Road, Route 97
Glenwood, MD 21738
Domain Name: TIS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Walker, Stephen T. (STW3) [email protected]
(301) 854-6889
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Dalva, David I. (DID1) [email protected]
(301) 854-6889
Record last updated on 02-Jul-92.
Domain servers in listed order:
TIS.COM 192.33.112.100
LA.TIS.COM 192.5.49.8
And "dockmaster" is an infamous address ...
| 7 | trimmed_train |
6,127 | 4 | trimmed_train |
|
7,619 | Hi there,
when I run Disk First Aid on my external hard drive (Quantum LPS 240) I get the followinf
message: Error -535: Missing thread record (TarID=31015; TarBlock 416)
Disk First Aid is not able to fix this problem, Norton Utils doesn't find it at all.
When I use Norton Disk editor to look at TarBlock 416 I can read something like "DirReservedArea"
My question: How can I get rid of this error (without reformatting of course)
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5,068 |
Your suggestion to learn something about "the perversion of Judaism"
from someone you claim has experience in Israeli intelligence and the
PLO is like a suggestion to learn something about the conspiracy of
Sesame Street from someone with experience in fashion design and
pizza-making.
"Judeo-Nazism"? CPR, you're in a league with Barf Shmidling himself.
You can take that as a compliment, if you see it that way.
| 6 | trimmed_train |
7,521 | about 2.5Kbyte without Novell 3.11 support.
No.
No.
Nearly all.
We run mixed WNT beta and W4WG, no problem apart from printer sharing( beta problem)
We had problems with mouse drivers using W4WG where Windows 3.1 didn't, seems to be
more critical about it. It was actualy a port problem with the network card running on 0x2e0, we changed it to 0x300, now everything is allright, I think it has to do with the AMI Bios as well.
| 18 | trimmed_train |
4,994 | HI,
I am looking for an X app that will display dxf files. These are
ascii text files that are normally associated with autocad. I have
a large 9 meg. file of the state of wisconsin that i would like to
views and or cut into smaller chunks.
I also would like to find a complete file layout for dxf files.
Any information would be appreciated.
| 16 | trimmed_train |
6,818 | ....
Same thing to me. Everyday the same dog would chase my bicycle.
The owners thought it was cute. Even after I got the moto,
the stupid dog would do the same thing. Then one day, I was
coming home in the opposite lane...the fluff with teeth ran to
get me and played momentum sharing with a 73 Dodge pick.
The owners tried to blame me for driving down street when I did.
I lived in a wierd town.
| 12 | trimmed_train |
1,728 | This is nonsense. I lived in the Negev for many years and I can say
for sure that no Beduins were "moved" or harmed in any way. On the
contrary, their standard of living has climbed sharply; many of them
now live in rather nice, permanent houses, and own cars. There are
quite a few Beduin students in the Ben-Gurion university. There are
good, friendly relations between them and the rest of the population.
All the Beduins I met would be rather surprised to read Mr. Davidson's
poster, I have to say. | 6 | trimmed_train |
10,434 | Just wondering if anyone had info/experience with a video/fpu for a mac LC,
just thinking of adding a second monitor, most likely grayscale.
| 14 | trimmed_train |
10,430 | ##I strongly suggest that you look up a book called THE BIBLE, THE QURAN, AND
##SCIENCE by Maurice Baucaille, a French surgeon. It is not comprehensive,
##but, it is well researched. I imagine your library has it or can get it
##for you through interlibrary loan.
##
I shall try to get hold of it (when I have time to read of course :-)
##In short, Dr Baucaille began investigating the Bible because of pre-
##ceived scientific inaccuracies and inconsistencies. He assumed that
##some of the problems may have been caused by poor translations in by-
##gone days. So, he read what he could find in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic.
##What he found was that the problems didn't go away, they got worse.
##Then, he decided to see if other religions had the same problems.
##So, he picked up the Holy Qur'an (in French) and found similar prob-
##lems, but not as many. SO, he applied the same logoic as he had
##with the Bible: he learned to read it in Arabic. The problems he
##had found with the French version went away in Arabic. He was unable
##to find a wealth of scientific statements in the Holy Qur'an, but,
##what he did find made sense with modern understanding. So, he
##investigated the Traditions (the hadith) to see what they had to
##say about science. they were filled with science problems; after
##all, they were contemporary narratives from a time which had, by
##pour standards, a primitive world view. His conclusion was that,
##while he was impressed that what little the Holy Qur'an had to
##say about science was accurate, he was far more impressed that the
##Holy Qur'an did not contain the same rampant errors evidenced in
##the Traditions. How would a man of 7th Century Arabia have known
##what *not to include* in the Holy Qur'an (assuming he had authored
##it)?
##
So in short the writer (or writers) of Quran decided to stay away from
science. (if you do not open your mouth, then you don't put you foot into
your mouth either).
But then if you say Quran does not talk much about science, then one can
not make claims (like Bobby does) that you have great science in Quran.
Basically I want to say that *none* of the religious texts are supposed to
be scientific treatises. So I am just requesting the theists to stop making
such wild claims.
--- Vinayak
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vinayak dutt
e-mail: [email protected]
standard disclaimers apply | 8 | trimmed_train |
8,890 | That's me....
Ok, I realize I have to get the font files from some ftp site. I found them
at cica but I now have another question.....
Are the 24*.zip fonts compatible with gswin252??
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9,984 |
Pity you didn't say something about the use of statistics to justify
targeting and persecuting a minority, then.
What in the Tree makes you think we queers CAN'T experience that commitment?
What's stopping us from committing to one partner for the rest of our lives?
I have every intention of doing so, once I find the right person...and
whether that person is male or female, I seriously doubt that a church
ceremony/public vow/licence will make any difference whatsoever in the sort
of commitment I experience with that person. You have no conception of the
difference marriage makes since you have never known any other way.
You're getting to the right idea here...just be careful of making statements
like the above, and you'll be part of the solution and not the problem.
No flames necessary. :)
Drywid | 13 | trimmed_train |
2,718 | Hi everyone. Just the other day, I ordered a VRAM chip for my new LCIII from
Mac Connection. They sent it overnight (very nice) and I got it installed,
and we found that it didn't work properly. When you put the computer in
thousands mode, the bottom of the screen (using the new chip) is all flickering
and fuzzy. So I called them up and I'm going to return it for a new one.
My question is, how often does such a thing happen with SIMM chips in general?
Do you often find when ordering chips that a large portion are bad? Is this
a rarity? This is the first chip I've ordered so I have no other experience
in this area. I'm just curious if anyone else has had the same type of
experience.
That's about it. Please email me, and if people want, I can post a summary.
Thanks all.
--
Hillel Sims ----- [email protected] ----- Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | 14 | trimmed_train |
4,609 | Does anyone know who makes a cable or adapter that is wired according to
Apple's specs that forces the external output on LC's and the Powerbook's
160/180 and Duo 230 into a true VGA style output signal? The NEC Adapter does
not do this since their monitors are multisync they just route the signal into
the correct pinout but do not switch the Macs output into VGA mode.
Do I have to make one of these or does someone already have one made-up??
The following is the Apple spec for the LC cpu VGA Cable adapter. I'm assuming
that the Powerbooks/Duos will work with the same adapter(?);
Macintosh LC to VGA
The Macintosh LC can supply a 640 x 480, VGA timed signal for use with VGA
monitors by using an adapter cable. The standard Macintosh LC supports VGA to
16 colors, and with the optional 512K VRAM SIMM, the VGA monitor is supported
to 256 colors.
Note: The Macintosh LC supplies signals capable of driving TTL level
inputs. However, some low impedance input VGA monitors do not work
with the Macintosh LC.
To connect a Macintosh LC to a VGA monitor, you need to make an adapter cable
from the Macintosh LC video connector to the VGA monitor. Following is the
pinout description for the adapter cable:
Macintosh LC VGA
Video Connector Pin Signal Name
--------------- ---- -----------
1 6 Red ground
2 1 Red video signal
5 2 Green video signal
6 7 Green ground
9 3 Blue video signal
13 8 Blue ground
15 13 /HSYNC
12 14 /VSYNC
14 10 HSYNC ground
7,10 nc SENSE1 & SENSE2 tied together
VGA monitors are identified by shorting pin 7 to pin 10 on the Macintosh LC
video connector. The Macintosh LC grounds pin 7 on its video connector, which
results in pulling down pin 10 and gives the correct monitor ID for a VGA
monitor. | 14 | trimmed_train |
9,473 | ---
I was wondering, what copy protection techniques are avaliable, and how
effective are they? Has anyone have any experience in this area?
With highest regards,
Babak Sehari.
| 11 | trimmed_train |
3,188 | Hi!
I think VGA-Copy can do what you need.
If you create a new floppy for your a: drive (that is the 5 1/4"), turn on
the "modify" switch of vga-copy.
When you boot using this diskette, a message appears:
This is no system disk, you can
1) replace disk with another,
2) boot from Harddisk or
3) switch drives and reboot (that is, a: becomes b:, b: becomes a:)
Type your choice:
When you select the third item, you can boot from b: which is now called a: .
Seems to work very good, for example booting drdos6 from the installation disks
in 3.5" format was no problem for a friend of mine (I have only a 3.5" a: drive)
Hope that helps
Robert
P.S.: VGA-Copy is shareware, so it's easy to get. Newest Version seems to be 5.0 .
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8,485 | Anyone,
I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to
put it bluntly, it sucks. I really would like some advice on what would
be a good starter bike for me. I do know one thing however, I need to
make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is
out of the question. I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR
600 F2, GSX-R 750). I know that this may sound kind of crazy
considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a
fast learner, and in love. Please give me any advice that you think
would help me in my search, including places to look or even specific
bikes that you want to sell me.
Thanks :-) | 12 | trimmed_train |
5,674 |
As a data point from Tennessee, a friend of mine and a police
officer essentially recommends that if you can, fade away. Even if
you were perfectly justified you're likely in for a great deal of
hassle. (A side note, carrying a gun concealed is a misdemeanor.)
It's one of those "by State" things, pretty much. | 9 | trimmed_train |
7,167 |
Is there such a thing as the new '94 Eagle Talon? I heard from a freind that
the new '94 Talons have been released? Is this true and if so what are the
differences between the '93 and '94? Any opinions? I would appreciate any
replies and I would also prefer E-mail, thanks!
| 4 | trimmed_train |
10,316 | I've been trying to get my Fujitsu M2611T 45mb hard disk (circa
1990) to share my IDE card with a new Seagate ST3283A 245mb one.
I've tried fiddling the jumpers to set the master and slave drives
without any success [without the table of hard drive specs from
this newsgroup I couldn't have got that far].
Has anyone else got this combination to work. The place I got the
new one muttered something like "Hmmm Fujitsu, nice drives, not
very compatible." He'll let me swap the Seagate for another brand
but he thought it was more a problem with the Fujitsu.
So has anyone got a similar Fujitsu drive to work with another cheapish
disk ... or want to buy a cute and cuddly little Fujitsu drive ?
| 3 | trimmed_train |
9,783 | Does anyone have a list of Vegas odds for teams making
the World Series?
I'd appreciate a mailing. Thanks, | 2 | trimmed_train |
4,670 |
I use xwd and xwd2ps. To do it from within a program I use
xwd -id xxxxx where xxxxx is the window id obtained from XtWindow(widget).
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10,004 |
And that, of course, is the point. You can't simply divide the
world into atheists and non-atheists on the basis of god-belief.
If all you care about is belief in a supernatural deity, and
have nothing to say about behaviour, then belief in a supernatural
being is your criterion.
But once you start talking about behaviour, then someone's suscept-
ibility to be led by bad people into doing bad things is what you
are - I assume - worried about.
And in that area, what you care about is whether someone is sceptical,
critical and autonomous on the one hand, or gullible, excitable and
easily led on the other.
I would say that a tendency to worship tyrants and ideologies indicates
that a person is easily led. Whether they have a worship or belief
in a supernatural hero rather than an earthly one seems to me to be
beside the point. | 8 | trimmed_train |
11,126 | I am seeking recommendations/Vendors for a Networkable FAX. It would
mainly be used for outgoing FAX's from Mac's on our Net. The ability
to Fax from other platforms would be a plus. Ethernet interface would
be preffered but LocalTalk would suffice. Can anyone provide any info?
Thanks in advance, --Peter | 14 | trimmed_train |
7,292 |
I am in hte market for a new bike (been without for a few years).
The two main bikes I'm looking at seriously are
The Yamaha Virago 535 and the Honda Shadow VLX 583.
I am leaning towards the Yamaha for its shaft drive, the Honda is Chain.
Insurance in Fla. is more costly than I thought, so I am staying in this
power range. Thanks in advance for any opinions and or experiences
| 12 | trimmed_train |
10,618 | * The Keenan hiring is precipitated by the loss of an anticipated $5M
in playoff revenue and fears of losing season ticket-holders (!), plus
Paramount chief Stan Jaffe's chip against the Flyers over l'Affaire
Lindros last autumn. Add to this that Neilsen might return as an
assistant coach [Gerald, what'd I say earlier today??], and Roger
conferred with Jaffe on the hiring. This hiring by Jaffe went over
the head of MSG, Inc. (Par. subsidiary) head Bob Gutkowski and over
the head and the protests of Pres./GM Neil Smith.
* MSG is making the announcement on Saturday to get back at the
Islanders for making the playoffs (i.e., steal the press).
* Flyers owner Ed Snyder is livid and beside himself over this.
* Keenan will make up to $900,000/yr.
* Gary Bettman has appointed an independent consul to look at
Gil Stein's admission into the Hall of Fame.
* New crease colours, rather than blue?
* The Oilers will charge to eat in the Press Room next year.
gld | 17 | trimmed_train |
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