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1,603 | Are there any X window servers that can run under MS-Windows?? I only know of
Deskview but have not seen it in action. Are there any others??
Thanks in advance. | 18 | trimmed_train |
2,496 | Hm... I find this hard to believe. V16T weights about the same as
the Red Head, but it has hell lot more horse power. Perhaps it's
due to pre-production glitches? Well, to me, it still got the most
imposing styling among all the sports cars I have seen. | 4 | trimmed_train |
4,146 | I can't believe this, Howe has an ERA in the 80's He is improving!!!
| 2 | trimmed_train |
8,826 |
Can you provide a reference to substantiate that gaining back
the lost weight does not constitute "weight rebound" until it
exceeds the starting weight? Or is this oral tradition that
is shared only among you obesity researchers?
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 19 | trimmed_train |
9,045 | Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed.
And this demonstrates, I assume, that you're a liberal. :-). | 13 | trimmed_train |
6,679 | A little delayed, but in the interests of fairness (stats from Elias);
BA OBP SLG R HR RBI RNI % outs
Alomar .310 .405 .427 105 8 76 264 20.5 419
Baerga .312 .354 .455 92 20 105 316 21.2 480
So we see that Baerga has a large advantage in RBI (runs batted in), RNI
(runners not driven in) and outs. | 2 | trimmed_train |
2,122 |
Well said Mr. Beyer :)
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4,079 | 15 | trimmed_train |
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1,872 |
I don't think you're going to be able to see the differences from a sphere
unless they are greatly exaggerated. Even the equatorial bulge is only
about 1 part in 300 -- you'd never notice a 1mm error in a 30cm globe --
and the other deviations from spherical shape are much smaller. | 10 | trimmed_train |
8,187 | *****************************************************************
* *
* MONSTER RALLY!! *
* == For the Right to Own and Carry Weapons == *
* *
* TOMORROW, Sunday, April 18, 1993, from 1:00 to 3:30 p.m., *
* the Denver LIBERTARIAN PARTY will sponsor a rally *
* AT THE STATE CAPITOL in support of *
* the individual right to own and carry weapons. *
* *
* Speakers will include former Colorado deputy attorney general *
* DAVID KOPEL, radio host KEN HAMBLIN, DLP Chair DAVID SEGAL, *
* pistol instructor LENDA JACKSON, and novelist L. NEIL SMITH. *
* *
* Your presence and participation are highly welcome. For more *
* information call David Segal at (303) 296-4059. *
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Cathy Smith | 9 | trimmed_train |
2,195 |
(Attempting to define 'objective morality'):
So long as you keep that "almost" in there, freedom will be a
mostly valuable thing, to most people. That is, I think you're really
saying, "a real big lot of people agree freedom is subjectively valuable
to them". That's good, and a quite nice starting point for a moral
system, but it's NOT UNIVERSAL, and thus not "objective".
It isn't in Sahara.
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3,010 |
Brian K., I am pleased with your honesty. And to be honest as well, I
believe you have not asked my god to come to you. Why do I say this?
Because by the things you write on the net, and the manner with which
you write them, you show me that you made up your own god and are
attempting to pass him off as the real thing. I got news for you.
Yours doesn't at all sound like mine. Your god doesn't come to you
because your god doesn't exist.
I am sorry Brian, but when I read your postings, I do not see an open mind.
What I do see is misunderstanding, lack of knowledge, arrogance and mockery.
Be true to yourself then. Have an open mind. And so end the mockery. Gain
knowledge of the real God. Put your presumptions aside. Read the
Bible and know that there is, truly is, a reason for everything and
there exists a God that has so much love for you that the depth of it goes beyond
our shallow worldly experience. A person who commits himself
to seeking God, will find God. Jesus stands at your door and knocks. But a
person who half-heartedly opens the Bible, or opens it with purpose to find
something to mock, will find, learn and see nothing. The only thing one
will gain with that attitude is folly.
Be careful to not jump the gun, for at first glance, there are many passages
in the Bible that will seem bizarre and absurd. Be assured that even
though they seem alien at first, be confident that they are not.
Be assured that beyond your present comprehension, there lies such
deep reasons that once you see them, you will indeed be satisfied.
I will personally guarantee that one. As Jesus put it, "You will never
be thirsty again. Your cup will even flow over."
From King Solomon (970 B.C. to 930 B.C.):
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter;
to search out a matter is the glory of kings."
Jesus says in John 6:44 & 55:
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."
And in John 3:16:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal
life."
You are included in "whosoever". And I also pray that the Father is
drawing you, which it seems He is doing else you wouldn't be posting
to talk.religion.misc. Remember Brian, you could be a St. Paul in the
making. Paul not only mocked Christians as you do, but also had pleasure
stoning them. Yet God showed him mercy, saved him, and Paul became
on of the most celebrated men in the history of God's church.
You see Brian, I myself better be careful and not judge you, because
you could indeed be the next Paul. For with the fervor that you attack
Christians, one day you might find yourself one, and like Paul,
proclaim the good news of Jesus with that very same fervor or more.
Or you could be the next Peter. What Jesus said to Peter, Jesus would
probably say to you: "Satan would surely like to have you." Why so?
Because Peter was hard-headed, cynical and demonstrated great
moments of stupidity, but once Peter committed himself to a task
he did with full heart. Peter was the only apostle to have the
faith to walk on water as Jesus did.
You asked "Why not believe in Zeus?" Zeus didn't offer eternal life.
You got nothing to gain by believing in Zeus.
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3,819 |
While I don't read normally read this group, I was looking for Valentine radar
information (sigh, maybe in the FAQ) and came across your posting..
I bought a '93 Probe GT with the PEP 263A last July (now at 9500 miles)
after debating over the Sentra SE-R/NX2000, MX6, MR-2, Stealth, Prelude,
and Celica.
Check this month's Consumer Reports for previous Probe records.
My criteria: a "fun" car with ABS, airbag, over 130hp, and less than $25K.
I thought about a turbo, but checking with insurance people ruled that out.
The Tri-Star cars (Eclipse/Talon/etc) were out since they don't have an air bag.
Ditto for the Mustang(also no ABS).
The SE-R/NX2000/M20 fell into the pocket-rocket category. A good used car buy.
The MX-6 was almost there but rolled more than I liked.
I didn't like the Prelude dash/instrumentation at all. Too weird for me.
The MR2 has a much smaller non-passenger space than I needed, so out that went.
The Celica was "ok" but underpowered when loaded with options (and somewhat
overpriced too) in non-turbo form.
I never considered the 240SX since it didn't have an airbag. I did look at it
for its RWD virtues but that's it. The Corolla never entered my mind.
I should have looked at the Mitsubishi VR4/Dodge Stealth more.
Since my list was exhausted, I bought the Probe. :-)
The car design is different than earlier years, so it's too early to see its
reliability so far. For what it's worth, my comments:
My dislikes:
Shutting door with windows up from inside rarely makes good wind seal.
Headlights have "stuck" up a few times (weather?)
air conditioning broke ~4000 miles (pressure cycling switch)
condensation around rear washer fluid container doesn't drain completely.
crammed engine; little hope for do-it-yourselfers (typical)
parts somewhat more expensive than normal Ford parts
underside plastic doesn't like sharp driveways and speedbumps (typical).
assembly gripes: tape on radiator, screw fell out of dash, seat seams not
stitched properly. Hopefully just a fluke.
Ford only gives 1 key with the car. C'mon Ford, spend an extra few pennies!
Rear hatch has no padding on corners when up. I'm waiting for the day when
I bash my head on the corner.
horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in center (personal preference)
Tires fling dirt/mud onto side of car
My Likes:
engine (design/valves/sounds/smoothness/power/mileage/torque) -- definitely #1
handling (very good for FWD; understeer only at limits)
transmission (the 5 speed is a must)
usable instrumentation (lovely readable analog everywhere)
Very little torque steer at full power (much better than the '90 SHO I drive)
stability at 100+mph (high gearing though)
low cowl (good visibility in front)
Heated outside mirrors (nice in fog, never tested in freezing weather)
ABS/Air bag (see above)
rear seats fold down (I have few rear seat passengers so a trunk not important)
No shake/rattle noises when going over bumps/potholes (still!)
Tires: 225/55VR16 Goodyear Eagles (70% left; hoping for 30K :-)
As you can see, I'm primarily interested in the engine. While it doesn't
have the uummmph of a big-liter car or the turbo rush, the big selling
point for me was the all-aluminum 24 value 2.5 liter engine.
The overall car is a good buy for the money. That market segment hasn't changed
much since July (Prelude VTEC, Honda Del Sol??). I drive it to and from work
each day on relatively smooth roads, and most noticable thing is that the
Probe's suspension doesn't like potholes. When you test drive one, find a
potholed road somewhere around town and see if the jarring you get is tolerable.
If you have 3+ passengers, by all means bring them along too. They'll find
that they have no room in the back and you'll find that the car rides
differently (if that's "better" is up to you). Also, there's a lot of glass
around you which I wasn't expecting; the temperature inside the car gets pretty
hot in the summer. My back seat passengers (now very few) complain about
the lack of ventilation; you may want to consider that when combined with
the heat. I've heard that the exhaust system has trouble, but mine works fine.
Leather and the keyless entry system weren't available when I got the car so
I can't comment on them (I got the car before it was officially announced).
I prefer cloth to leather anyway.
I wouldn't want this car in the snow: The suspension is too rough for the
inevitable surprise potholes, tires aren't meant for snow, and the seats assume
that you're not wearing lots of thick clothing. Rain is much better: water
generally beads off the windshield at freeway speed, the windshield wiper
controls are easy and understandable, and I barely hydroplaned once with the
Eagles (and I was really trying).
There is also a definite lack of cup holder/small storage places. The GT
has map holders below the speakers in the door, but they're rigid plastic
that could fit two cassettes or CD's max. The center console/storage bin/arm
rest has *1* cup holder and the back of the front seats have a cloth "pouch"
but that's it. No change holders. Quite a let-down from the SHO.
And the Probe is definitely not a people-mover car or an econo-box car!
Lastly, don't store wet car covers in the back. The foam will soak the
water up and the result will *not* smell pleasant :-(.
Nathan
[email protected]
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8,804 |
Nonsense. First, the uranium fuel is sealed in zirconium
alloy cylinders (which don't melt in any circumstances short of
major failure of the power plant). Second, the primary water
(that circulates inside the reactor core) is never pumped into the
cooling tower (it's the SECONDARY water cycle that goes
through the cooling tower). Third, liquid uranium would burst
into flame on contact with air.
Cleaning crew working in a mist of uranium? This is a
toxic heavy metal, even if it WEREN'T radioactive. Shouldn't there
be some smileys here? Or frowneys? | 11 | trimmed_train |
5,563 |
The San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators are each on their second GM
already...I'd be willing to wager that both the Sharks and Senators
will probably see their 3rd GM's and perhaps their 4th, before we
see the Panthers second. | 17 | trimmed_train |
9,703 |
No. Even if you could, the answer could be out of date even before you
get it (even if you grab the server, it could be taken up by buffering
user actions). You should just try to do whatever you want; a BadAlloc
error is your indication that insufficient server memory is available.
der Mouse | 16 | trimmed_train |
2,074 | I remember someone mention about a 150meg syquest. Has anyone else
heard anything about this? I'd be interested in the cost per megabyte and the
approximate cost of the drive itself and how they compare to the Bernoulli 150.
| 14 | trimmed_train |
1,939 |
There is something almost comical in the fact that Yigal Arens is
important enough to have the ADL and G-d knows who else sifting through his
garbage (which happens to be legal; you throw it out, it ain't yours any more).
This brings to mind a few possibilities other than the ADL connection:
- it is all in Arens' mind.
- Bullock may have been working for Arens' friend in the PLO
- Arens' father (or is it brother?) Moshe Arens (former Israeli Defense
Minister) was spying on him.
- Arens hired Bullock to spy on him to get attention.
In any case, who cares? | 6 | trimmed_train |
1,311 | :
: And thank the Lord that Bill Connor has returned to set
: us straight! Now I know I can die happy when my Lexus
: SE400 wipes out on that rain-slick curve in 1997. The
: rest of you had best straighten up, because your time
: is even more limited. Most of you are going in the Flu
: of 1994.
Maddi,
You know you're glad to have me visit ...
But I won't stay long this time, just shopping around. | 8 | trimmed_train |
4,076 | No cache, also called 386DX.
It has the same internals as the 386, is a real 32-bit processor, just has
16 bit hookup to the outside world.
Yes, optimized 387 internal.
Yes, 8K.
Yes, but only a few instructions, nothing noteworthy.
486 with no coprocessor.
Nope. Just another name for the 486.
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Frank Racis - [email protected] - [email protected]
Computers are useless; they can only give answers. | 3 | trimmed_train |
8,889 | Absolutely. I'm sure that civilians on both sides would be pleased
if the fighters (military, guerilla, whatever) would just take their
argument elsewhere, find an unpopulated area somewhere, and slug it out.
At that point, we will all breath a sigh of relief *and* cheer for
our side in the struggle.
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5,211 |
The fact that she was wearing a miniskirt with no underwear was
presented as evidence that she was a prostitute, and the court
apparently found this compelling.
Clayton does indeed know the difference. Greg apparently doesn't.
Because the judge found that there was some credible evidence that the
Marines were engaged in self-defense. Got it, knucklehead?
Because, in part [REPEAT AFTER ME], "the judge found that there was
some credible evidence that the Marines were engaged in self-defense".
Hopefully, one of these days you will understand.
With respect to credibility, I would rate Clayton Cramer an order of
magnitude higher than a) the news media, and b) homosexuals.
Clayton is indeed consistent. And so are you. | 13 | trimmed_train |
2,476 |
Actually, jon, that is quite true. Christian people have caused
"objective morality" to look very "relative." After all, that was the
point of the original question in this thread, i.e. can we toss out
Christianity because it is so obviously inconsistent with its own
principles? If you will bear with me, I will attempt to explain this
apparent inconsistency from at least one Christian's viewpoint:
If God exists and is the creator of mankind as the Bible claims, then
He has a pretty well-defined concept of what makes people tick
physically, emotionally, etc. GOD has an "objective" morality for us.
That is to say, He has no trouble understanding what is good for (or
detrimental to) the creature He created.
Galatians 2:10-- For we [mankind] are His workmanship, created in
Christ Jesus for good works [a morality], which God prepared
beforehand [a well-defined design], that we might walk in them.
However, contrary to what many people assume (including the Pharasees
of the Bible,) God's morality cannot be completely codified in a list
of rules and regulations. To some extent, every activity of a
person's life creates a new situation to which morality must be
applied. There never could be enough volumes to codify God's
"objective" morality for us.
Throughout history, mankind has tried to reduce morality to a list of
rules (objectivity, if you please.) In the Old Testament, we have
both principles and specific rules. By the time of Jesus, most of the
principles were obscured by the emphasis men had placed on the rules.
Volumes of additional rules had been made to try to codify the
application of the principles. We [mankind] weren't comfortable with
the "subjectivity" of principles.
For reference see Matthew 5 where Jesus explains the difference
between the Law and the principles of the Law. For example, in
verses 21-22: "You have heard that the ancients were told,
'You shall not commit murder'...and 'Whoever commits murder shall
be liable to the court.' But I say to you that everyone who is
angry with his brother shall be liable to the court..."
The "objective morality" of God gets blurred by our inept
interpretation of it. We [Christians] have made our biggest errors
when we have allowed any one person or group of people decide EXACTLY
what God intended for us. If we [Christians] would stay committed to
seeking God's will instead of trying to prove we already had it all
figured out, we might do a better job of allowing others to find God's
"objective morality" for themselves. If Jesus is who he said he
was/is (and that's the fundamental question,) then HE IS "objective
morality." | 15 | trimmed_train |
5,640 | i don't have FTP and i live in canada ( this means that it would be
illeagle for a U.S. citizen to send the program to me. their gigerment
wishes to restrict its dispersil ) but someone in europe must have ported
a coppy of RSA to the atariST by now. how do i get a coppy of the RSA
from a non-FTP news feed?
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195 | Hi ... Recently I found XV for MS-DOS in a subdirectory of GNU-CC (GNUISH). I
use frequently XV on a Sun Spark Station 1 and I never had problems, but when I
start it on my computer with -h option, it display the help menu and when I
start it with a GIF-File my Hard disk turns 2 or 3 seconds and the prompt come
back.
My computer is a little 386/25 with copro, 4 Mega rams, Tseng 4000 (1M) running
MS-DOS 5.0 with HIMEM.SYS and no EMM386.SYS. I had the GO32.EXE too... but no
driver who run with it.
Do somenone know the solution to run XV ??? any help would be apprecied..
Thanx in advance !!!!
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* 2400 Le LOCLE | *
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* !!!! Enjoy COMPUTER !!!! *
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4,414 | (NDW)
If an Uninstall icon doesn't exist in the Norton Desktop Apps
group: | 18 | trimmed_train |
4,401 | Fellow netters,
I just wanted to let you know that there are a few honest and good people out
there (even outside of Iowa). I'm sorry if anyone thinks that I am wasting
space, but I thought you might want some relief from the "So-and-so is a thief"
posts. Not that I think we shouldn't hear about the bad deals, but it would be
nice to hear some good news once in a while.
After seeing his post on one of the for sale groups, I mailed Mr. Mark Miller a
request for his copy of WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS. He suggested a price of $50
in his ad, but when I phoned him, he quoted $40 plus shipping. That sounded
more than fair to me, so I told him that I would send him a check the next day.
Imagine my surprise when I logged into my account the following day and found a
message from him saying that it had already been sold (after I had just mailed
the money order). After another E-Mail message to him, he apologized and
assured me that it was a mistake - I was the one who he was holding it for. He
sent the package as soon as he got the money, along with a letter stating a
transfer of license. This wasn't good enough for WordPerfect, so I asked him
to fill out one of their forms. No problem - we thought. It took three times
to get it to the right address (my fault). Anyway, he mailed me the form for
my signature and included a Workbook that I had no idea was included in the
deal. Again, he apologized for not sending it before. I now have the world's
best word processor and a renewed hope in the world that there are a few good
ones left. I recoend that if you ever see that Mark is selling anything thatat
you may want, give him a call. If I had the choice, I would purchase all of my
software from him.
Bravo, Mr. Miller! | 5 | trimmed_train |
4,236 |
Hmmmm.... The prefix "peri-" is Greek, not Latin, so it's usually used
with the Greek form of the name of the body being orbited. (That's why
it's "perihelion" rather than "perisol", "perigee" rather than "periterr",
and "pericynthion" rather than "perilune".) So for Jupiter I'd expect it
to be something like "perizeon".) :^) | 10 | trimmed_train |
2,680 |
True to a point. If you were to ask a Buddhist atheist...
Actually, yes and no, Hell is eternal death. Actually, the way
I've had it related to me, it's more of an eternal damnation,
where sinners will feel the licking flames of Hell. If I
supposedly can feel these flames, I would assume I'm still
alive, but suffering and away from God.
I believe Jehovah's Witnesses have a similar view, where the body
sleeps for ever...
I don't have a problem with being condemned to Hell either. The
way I see it, if God wants to punish me for being honest in
my skepticism (that is, for saying he doesn't exist), He
certainly wouldn't be changing His nature. Besides, I would
rather spend an eternity in Hell than be beside God in Heaven
knowing even one man would spend his "eternal life" being
scorched for his wrongdoings...
Stephen
_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ * Atheist
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Libertarian
_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-individuality
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-responsibility
_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jr. * and all that jazz...
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6,689 | Dangerous only to immune suppressed persons and fetuses. To them,
it is extremely dangerous. Most of the rest of us have already had
it and it isn't dangerous at all.
Cat feces are the worst. Pregnant women should never touch the litter box.
Cook your meat. Watch it with pets.
You'll have to read up on it.
There is an effective antibiotic that can keep it in check.
Of course, it can't reverse damage already done, such as in
a fetus.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
[email protected] | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 19 | trimmed_train |
2,691 |
It was around 1969 in the Shenandoah Valley near Woodstock, Virginia. Me,
my wife, a friend, his wife, and his 2 kids were hiking in a totally
desolate mountain area. All of a sudden, large rocks began raining down
on us. Looking up, we saw at least 3 punks gleefully letting loose rocks
from what was an obvious stash. They were a couple hundred feet above us.
Meanwhile, the women and kids were screaming and running for cover and the
punks were shrieking with laughter. Me and my friend yelled for them to
knock it off. They responded that we should "Get f***ed!". Me and my
friend drew our pistols and fired a couple of times into the trees above
their heads. They ran. With no more 3-5 pound rocks coming at our heads,
we proceeded on our journey.
Sorry, but me and my friend saw no need to let it evolve to a more
"violent" level than we were already experiencing. I guess we should
have tried harder to understand and cope with the anger that society
had instilled in them and was driving them to do such things. Guess
that's a cross I'll have to bear. | 9 | trimmed_train |
10,016 | Is there a 768x1024 Trident driver for windows anywere.
This mode is supported by the drivers fo OS/2 but I have
not been able to find it for Windows.
(768x1024 means 768 wide and 1024 high as opposed to 1024x768)
Any help is appreciated.
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3,300 | I have used JVC's top of the line portable cd player for three months now.
I have mostly used it in my car on long trips, so it has less than 20 hours of use on it. The unit is one of the best that I have seen and listened to, but
I am going to part with it to install a disc changer in my car.
Features include:
17 Hz - 20,000 Hz
rechargeable nicad batteries
wireless remote control
AC adaptor
headphones
carrying belt and case
digital 6 band graphic eq with spectrum analyzer
25 presets, 5 user programmable
RCA connections and cord
JVC compulink capability (cord included)
programmable from remote
intro, random, repeat playback
I will include a Discwasher (tm) power converter to convert an automobile's
12v DC to the 5.5V DC that the unit requires. I had to buy this one because
it was the only one that fits, (JVC makes a unique connection that cannot be
found at Radio Shack etc).
I paid $235 for the disc player and another $30 for the power converter.
I will sell the disc player alone for $180, or both items for $190.
Send replies to [email protected] or (518)271-7942 | 5 | trimmed_train |
3,556 |
The analogy does not depend on the premisses being true, because the
question under discussion is not truth but arrogance.
A similar analogy might be a medical doctor who believes that a blood
transfusion is necessary to save the life of a child whose parents are
Jehovah's Witnesses and so have conscientious objections to blood
transfusion. The doctor's efforts to persuade them to agree to a blood
transfusion could be perceived to be arrogant in precisely the same way as
Christians could be perceived to be arrogant.
The truth or otherwise of the belief that a blood transfusion is necessary
to save the life of the child is irrelevant here. What matters is that the
doctor BELIEVES it to be true, and could be seen to be trying to foce his
beliefs on the parents, and this could well be perceived as arrogance. | 0 | trimmed_train |
10,003 |
I answer from the position that we would indeed place these people
in prison for life.
That depends not only on their predisposition towards murder, but
also in their success rate at escape and therefore their ability
to commit the same crimes again.
In other words, if lifetime imprisonment doesn't work, perhaps
it's not because we're not executing these people, but because
we're not being careful enough about how we lock them up.
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Bob Beauchaine [email protected]
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea. | 8 | trimmed_train |
3,755 | Well I just read in the Boston Globe that while not confirming
(or denying) anything, Walsh may end up with the Rangers organizations
as an (assistant Coach?). Keenan has talked with Walsh in the past
(he came up to see Kariya as he will be coaching him in the worlds,
funny I guess he got to watch the Ferraro brothers as well.....) I'm
not sure if walsh will go, but if Keenan is getting 700,000 and walsh
even gets 100,000 that's a 30% pay raise for walsh (not to mention
a nice career move....) Anyone from New York Hear anything about
this????????
Pat Ellis
P.S. GO BRUINS GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS 42-1-2 NUMBER 1......
HOCKEY EAST REGULARS SEASON CHAMPIONS.....
HOCKEY EAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS>......
PAUL KARIYA, HOBEY BAKER AWARD WINNER.......
NCAA DIV. 1 HOCKEY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11,109 | }>More like those who use their backs instead of their minds to make
}>their living who are usually ignorant and intolerant of anything outside
}>of their group or level of understanding.
There seems to be some confusion between rednecks and white trash.
The confusion is understandable, as there is substantial overlap
between the two sets. Let me see if I can clarify:
Rednecks: Primarily use their backs instead of their minds to make a
living. Usually somewhat ignorant (by somebody's standards,
anyway) because they have never held education above basic
reading/writing/math skills to be that important to their
eventual vocation. Note I did not say stupid, just ignorant.
(They might be stupid, but then so are some high percentage
of any group).
White trash: "White trash fit the stereotype referred to by the
word 'nigger' better than any black person I ever met, only
with the added 'bonus' that white trash are mean as hell."
-- my father. Genuinely lazy (not just out of work or under-
qualified), good-for-nothing, dishonest, white people who are
mean as snakes. The "squeal like a pig" boys in _Deliverance_
may or may not have been rednecks, but they were sure as hell
white trash.
White trash are assuredly intolerant of anything outside of their
group or level of understanding. Rednecks may or may not be. | 12 | trimmed_train |
3,200 |
And why are we in Somalia? When right across the Gulf of Aden are
some of the wealthiest Arab nations on the planet? Why does the
US always become the point man for this stuff? I don't mind us
helping out; but what invariably happens is that everybody expects
us to do most of the work and take most of the risks, even when these
events are occuring in other people's back yards, and they have the
resources to deal with them quite well, thank you. I mean, it's
not like either Serbia, or Somalia represent some overwhelming
military force that their neighbors can't handle. Nor are the
logistics a big deal -- it's a lot bigger logistical challenge
to get troops and supplies from New York to Somalia, than from
Saudi Arabia; harder to go from Texas to Serbia, than Turkey or
Austria to Serbia.
| 6 | trimmed_train |
9,003 |
No kidding. The most recent post I saw in alt.privacy.clipper (and I
hope anyone interested in this topic ends up there) states that Clipper
has been in development for over four years.
I am, however, more than a little PO'd that Clinton put his name on
this monstrosity, or even allowed it to get out the door, for that matter.
He's already heard from me, and I hope you'll all take the time to voice
your extreme displeasure as well.
| 7 | trimmed_train |
6,921 | Hi,
I'm hoping someone out there will be able to help our computer science
project group. We are doing computer science honours, and our project
is to do a 'graphical simulator for a finite state automata'.
Basically, the program must draw a diagram of a FSA from a textual grammar,
showing circles for states, and labeled arc's in-between.
The problem is working out the best way to layout the states, and draw the
arc's in-between so that as few arc's as possible cross each other.
If anyone has any suggestions/algorithms/bug-free ready to compile C code :)
that might help us, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance, | 1 | trimmed_train |
7,569 |
There is no notion of heliocentric, or even galacticentric either.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 8 | trimmed_train |
3,491 | I have before me a pertinent report from the United States General
Accounting Office:
National Aero-Space Plane: Restructuring Future Research and Development
Efforts
December 1992
Report number GAO/NSIAD-93-71
In the back it lists the following related reports:
NASP: Key Issues Facing the Program (31 Mar 92) GAO/T-NSIAD-92-26
Aerospace Plane Technology: R&D Efforts in Japan and Australia
(4 Oct 91) GAO/NSIAD-92-5
Aerospace Plane Technology: R&D Efforts in Europe (25 July 91)
GAO/NSIAD-91-194
Aerospace Technology: Technical Data and Information on Foreign
Test Facilities (22 Jun 90) GAO/NSIAD-90-71FS
Investment in Foreign Aerospace Vehicle Research and Technological
Development Efforts (2 Aug 89) GAO/T-NSIAD-89-43
NASP: A Technology Development and Demonstration Program to Build
the X-30 (27 Apr 88) GAO/NSIAD-88-122
On the inside back cover, under "Ordering Information" it says
"The first copy of each GAO report is free. . . . Orders
may also be placed by calling (202)275-6241
"
Dani
| 10 | trimmed_train |
1,271 |
Assume in this case the usual canard-adversary of narcotraficantes. They
probably have more cash than the KGB did, and they're probably more generous
at handing it out. It will be easier than ever to find or cultivate Walkers
and Pollards for the keys, and it will be easy enough to find someone to
reverse-engineer the chip (unless the tamper proofing is damned clever and
effective). | 7 | trimmed_train |
8,877 |
Since everybody wants to see Pittsburgh players not playing, the
Stanley cup would be devaluated.
--
_____________________________________________________
Iskander AYARI | 17 | trimmed_train |
10,480 |
does anyone know?
-- | 19 | trimmed_train |
8,172 |
: I'm trying out the C++ graphics package InterViews. Besides the man pages
: on the classes, I haven't got any documentation. Is there anything else
: around? Furthermore, can anyone send me a (small!) example program
: which shows how to use these classes together ? I would be very gratefull... | 1 | trimmed_train |
7,644 |
When is it did you say? Well let me shell out here and run this
handy dandy program....
$ mlb -m pit phi
And the answer is:
Monday, 5/10 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Tuesday, 5/11 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Wednesday, 5/12 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Friday, 6/25 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Saturday, 6/26 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:05 pm)
Sunday, 6/27 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (11:35 am)
Friday, 7/30 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Saturday, 7/31 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:05 pm)
Sunday, 8/ 1 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (11:35 am)
Monday, 9/27 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Tuesday, 9/28 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Wednesday, 9/29 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Thursday, 9/30 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
| 2 | trimmed_train |
1,784 |
Yes.
Acyclovir started in the first 1-2 days probably speeds recovery and
decreases the formation of new pox. | 19 | trimmed_train |
4,875 |
This post has all the earmarks of a form program, where the user types in
a nationality or ethnicity and it fills it in in certain places in the story.
If this is true, I condemn it. If it's a fabrication, then the posters have
horrible morals and should be despised by everyone on tpm who values truth.
Jesse
Agreed. | 6 | trimmed_train |
2,804 | I responded to a post last week and it carried somewhat of a hostile
tone for which I am apologizing for. It is not my intent to create
contriversy or to piss people off. To those who I offend, I'm sorry
| 0 | trimmed_train |
9,221 |
SEI Level 5 (the highest level -- the SEI stands for Software
Engineering Institute). I'm not sure, but I believe that this rating
only applies to the flight software. Also keep in mind that it was
*not* achieved through the use of sophisticated tools, but rather
through a 'brute force and ignorance' attack on the problem during the
Challenger standdown - they simply threw hundreds of people at it and
did the whole process by hand. I would not consider receiving a 'Warning'
status on systems which are not yet in use would detract much (if
anything) from such a rating -- I'll have to get the latest copy of
the guidelines to make sure (they just issued new ones, I think).
Also keep in mind that the SEI levels are concerned primarily with
control of the software process; the assumption is that a
well controlled process will produce good software. Also keep in mind
that SEI Level 5 is DAMNED HARD. Most software in this country is
produced by 'engineering practicies' that only rate an SEI Level 1 (if
that).
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden | 10 | trimmed_train |
10,225 |
[There may be some misunderstanding over terms here...]
I agree. Quite likely, actually.
[...I believe "Jesus
only" originally was in the context of baptism. These are folks who
believe that baptism should be done with a formula mentioning only
Jesus, rather than Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This may have
doctrinal implications, but as far as I know it does not mean that
these folks deny the existence or divinity of the Father. I'm not the
right one to describe this theology, and in fact I think there may be
several, including what would classically be called monophysite or
Arian (two rather different views), as well as some who have beliefs
that are probably consistent with Trinitarian standards, but who won't
use Trinitarian language because they misunderstand it or simply
because it is not Biblical. --clh]
Not Biblical? What then can they make of the end of Matthew?
(28:18)And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on
earth has been given to me. (19)Go therefore and make disciples of all
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit, (20) and teaching them to obey everything that I
have commanded to you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end
of the age." {Other ancient authorities add *Amen*} [NRSV]
The notes give no sense that this is emended. Do other texts
contradict this regarding Baptism? Or is a misunderstanding of the
Trinity the most likely explanation after all?
But maybe I simply misunderstand their views. (Is anyone else out there
forced to read this group with both a good Bible and an unabridged
dictionary?? Christianity really is an education in itself.)
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Arrgggghhhh. When I talked about people who rejected Trinitarian
language as unBiblical, I was speaking of Trinitarian theology, things
like "one essense and three persons". Obviously the three-fold
baptismal formula is Biblical, as you point out. (I normally use the
term "three-fold" in referring to Mat. While it is certainly
consistent with belief in the Trinity, the Trinity is a doctrine whose
full formulation occurred in the 4th and 5th Cent's. It's unlikely
that Mat. had in mind the fully-developed Trinitarian doctrine.
Indeed the three-fold baptismal formula is used by some groups that do
not believe in the Trinity.) The disagreement over baptismal formulae
occurs because of passages such as Acts 2:38, which command baptism in
the name of Jesus. (There are a couple of other passages in Acts as
well.) This leaves us with sort of a problem: we're commanded in Mat.
to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,
and in Acts to baptize in the name of Jesus.
"Jesus only" groups baptize in the name of Jesus. They consider this
consistent with Mat 28:18, because they say that Jesus is the name of
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I'm not the right one to
ask to explain what this means. I will simply say that it does not
appear to be normal Trinitarian theology. (It is also an odd way of
dealing with the idiomatic phrase "in the name of".)
Those who use the three-fold formula don't seem to have a standard
answer to the passages talking about baptizing in the name of Jesus.
I suspect that the most common explanation is to say that "in the name
of" need not be a verbal formula. To say that you baptize in the name
of Jesus may simply mean that you are doing baptism under Jesus'
authority. In the 1st Cent. context, it contrasts Christian baptism
with the baptism of John or other Jewish baptism. Of course there's a
certain parallelism between these passages. That suggests that we
could just as well say that Mat 28:18 doesn't require the specific
three-fold formula to be used in baptism, but simply characterizes
baptism done by those who follow the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
One might well suspect that in the early church, more than one
baptismal formula was used. So long as we consider following Jesus to
be the same as following the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, no great
damage would be done by such a difference. This does *not* mean that
I think we should go back to using both formulae. Baptism is one of
the few things that almost all Christian groups now recognize
mutually, so I do not think doing something to upset that would be in
the interests of the Gospel. This is reinforced by the fact that
those groups that actually use "in the name of Jesus" now do seem to
have in mind a difference in doctrine. But as I've said before, I'm
not the one to explain what their doctrine is. | 0 | trimmed_train |
8,410 |
This was known as *Journey to the Far Side of the Sun* in the United
States and as *Doppelganger* in the U.K. It was produced by the great
team of Gerry and Sylvia Anderson (whose science was usually a bit
better than this). It may have been their first production using live
actors-- they were better known for their technophilic puppet shows,
such as *Supercar*, *Stingray*, and *Thunderbirds*. Later, they went
on to do more live-action SF series: *UFO* and *Space: 1999*.
The astronomy was lousy, but the lifting-body spacecraft, VTOL
airliners, and mighty Portugese launch complex were *wonderful* to
look at. | 10 | trimmed_train |
10,020 | i'd just like to repeat and emphasize that because someone else is
trying to make you feel horrible and worthless does not mean that you
should feel that way, although that's easier to say than believe
sometimes. remember, God made you and loves you, so he must think
you're something special. (excuse the trite language here.) also,
the bully may just be someone who is mean for no reason -- not out of
intentional mental torture. has anyone else been harassed? maybe
they're just not talking about it.
i would have emailed but my reactions weren't fast enough and the post
i'm responding to didn't include your address. just take courage and
remember that all of us on the net are rooting for you. | 0 | trimmed_train |
6,097 |
So that's why the 13 newly independent states all had tax systems... | 13 | trimmed_train |
7,278 |
Please do! And if you don't want to post it here, email to me
:-) I don't know how this discussion is appreciated here. I hate
'invading' newsgroups with themes of limited interest :-) | 15 | trimmed_train |
10,515 |
I can see high-voltage type display devices being vulnerable (CRTs,
plasma displays, etc.) But Jason beat me to this question. What
about EM radiation from low-voltage items like LCD displays? | 7 | trimmed_train |
11,200 | Does anyone have a rear wheel for a PD they'd like to part with?
Does anyone know where I might find one salvage?
As long as I'm getting the GIVI luggage for Brunnhilde and have
the room, I thought I'd carry a spare.
Ride Free,
Bill
___________________________________________________________________
[email protected] prez=BIMC KotV KotRR
DoD #00314 AMA #580924 SPI = 7.18 WMTC #0002 KotD #0001
Yamabeemer fj100gs1200pdr650 Special and a Volvo. What more could anyone ask? | 12 | trimmed_train |
6,739 |
Nathan,
Win31 has a fixed limit of 64K GDI memory, regardless of physical RAM
installed, this is twice that of Win30, but not nearly robust enough for
many developers and power users.
Using Amish Launch as your shell, you can reduce GDI memory usage by as
much as 15% over Progman, NDW 2, DAshboard, and other graphical type icon
based and other shells. Also, nesting, and full hot-key global support
is offered, something no other shells have at this time.
Ted Matsumura, President
Amish Software, Inc. | 18 | trimmed_train |
7,287 | Anyone have any opinions on fairly recent model Alfa Spiders ( 86-> )
Reliablilty for what their class ( I'm not talking Alfa vs. Toyota corrola
which is more relaible )
As far as I can discern, in recent years, there are 3 levels with all
basically the same mechanical aspects.
Please email any responses
| 4 | trimmed_train |
10,233 |
I've read estimates that Pol Pot killed somewhere in the neighborhood
of 2 million.
Drew | 9 | trimmed_train |
6,876 |
How much support do you need? I don't think there's anything
that prohibits you from implementing such a widget, though you
will have to write your own versions of the functions that draw
the 3D shadow and traversal highlighting.
| 16 | trimmed_train |
4,272 |
It depends on which uniforms you are talking about. For the last
couple of years I believe Toronto and Pittsburgh has used the same uniforms,
or at least very similar. The home jerseys had the team nick name
(Blue Jays or Pirates), but the road jerseys had the name of the city
(Toronto or Pittsburgh). I believe this is the way most teams design
their uniforms.
| 2 | trimmed_train |
2,065 |
The problem with "Let's assume" reasoning is that, taken to the extreme
(and you're close), you arrive at "Let's assume this is perfectly OK."
The assumptions you make are big ones. If the system is really secure, then
why does the government have to keep the algorithm secret? There are plenty
of encryption algorithms that don't depend upon nondisclosure to be secure,
so why in the world use one that does? There are reasons, of course, but
I certainly can't think of any honest ones.
Next, you assume we can "trust" the escrow houses. But the last time I checked,
EVERY SINGLE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT has experienced unauthorized disclosure,
corruption, and even fabrication, of supposedly secure data. The govt is
saying "Yeah, but NOW we're serious, so you can trust us." Bullcrypt.
And finally, although you didn't state it explicitly, you implicitly assume
that the warrant mechanism in this country is safe and reasonable. The case
in Ventura County of a man shot and killed by officers serving a deliberately
fraudulant warrant tells me that the govt has a long ways to go on this
score.
Remember that all this is to catch the drug dealers, right? As others
have pointed out, the current proposal will, if deployed, render truly secure
encryption much more expensive and inconvenient than Uncle Sam's brand.
Who will be able to afford, and be sufficiently motivated, to purchase this
expensive, inconvenient higher protection? Somebody with lots of extra
cash...
The following is more true than ever:
"When [strong] encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have [strong]
encryption."
| 7 | trimmed_train |
9,796 | To go one step further, you could write Roland Slabon, Pres. of the
Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners Ltd at P.O. box 67, Exeter, New Hampshire
03833 and he'll send you copy of the bimonthly rag with info as to where
to send your $12 bucks if ya want to join. As far as the price of '60's
Beemers, it varies wildly, from a low of around $1000 for an unrestored
bike that still runs (like an R50 or R60) to $4500 or so for a restored
R69S. Don't listen to that bull about the old bmw's not being "good
enough" to ride in todays world.. Hell, I'm riding my 1956 R26 Single
from Mississippi to the BMW MOA national rally in Oshkosh, Wisconsin
on the 22nd of July this year.
Sincerely,
Craig Vechorik
BMW MOA Ambassador #9462
BMW Vintage
Bulletin tech editor #1373
DOD #843
"REAL BMW's have ROUND tail lights and ROLLER cranks"
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4,159 |
In many places, Christians were sucessful in their attempts
to get the films banned, or at least given a very restrictive
showing.
I have no problem with Christians burning their own pieces of
art (though I find it a tragic waste). I do however have a
problem with their attempts to censor what I may or may not
view.
P. | 0 | trimmed_train |
5,440 | Hi,
I got a glimpse from the other side, talking to the technician at the
place I recently bought my Mac from. The guy told me that they stopped
shipping SIMMs to their customers and only install them themselves -
those babies get zapped too easily by static electricity or so they
claim.
HSK
| 14 | trimmed_train |
47 |
Easy Rider (harleys, drugs, rednecks, New Orleans), Mad Max (violence, DoD
wanna-be's), Time Rider (Honda Thumper, Time travel), On Any Sunday
(Documentary about dirtbike racers, GREAT!), The (Great?) Escape (Steve
Mcqueen, Nazis), Rebel Without a Cause (James Dean, future DoD'ers). I
think the last two are right, they are OLD movies I haven't seen in YEARS.
----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====---- | 12 | trimmed_train |
4,278 | The headline says it all!!!!!!!!
| 5 | trimmed_train |
8,274 |
Such submissions have been made before, e.g. regarding Jews.
All you Dirty Harry types, eager to pull a gun on some scum guilty of
scratching your stupid painted metal boxes on wheels : have you ever
KILLED a human to speak so lightly about such matters ? | 4 | trimmed_train |
7,888 | Tektronix 453 scope for sale:
- 50MHz bandwidth
- portable (NOT one of the 5xx series boatanchors! :^)
- delayed sweep
- works fine
- I don't have the manual (they are available from various places)
- no probes
- $275 + shipping
Email me for more info...
Regards,
Keith
| 11 | trimmed_train |
10,569 | This is the 2nd Reguest for Discussion ( RFD ) for the creation of
comp.databases.ms-access
The discussion period started on April 6 and it will last until April 28,
( 22 days ).
This is an official RFD for the creation of a new newsgroup for the
general discussion of the Microsoft Access RDMS.
NAME: COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS
MODERATION: UNMODERATED. At this time, no need for a moderator has been
assertained. Future evaluation will determine if one is needed.
PURPOSE:
Access is a new RDBMS for the Windows Operating System. It includes WYSIWYG
design tools for easy creation of tables, reports, forms and queries and a
database programming language called Access Basic.
THe purpose of the group will be to provide help to people who use Access's
WYSIWYG design tools to create simple databases as well as to people who use
Access Basic to create complex databases.
RATIONALE:
Eventhough Access is a new RDBMS, it is very popular because of its Graphical
Development enviroment and its initial low price.
Been a version 1.0 product means that all Access users are Novices.
For that reason a newsgroup is needed where Access users can discuss
their experiences with the product and answer each other's questions. | 18 | trimmed_train |
9,538 | In regard to Woody's post, I thought I would remind him of something in
the midst of his tirade against academia:
As a member of the generation likely to pay for the crap Reagan and his cronies started with the deficit according to the brilliant Laffer curve (NOT!) I
think we need to look with open minds upon any ideas which will allow us
to directly address the problems of the gigantic federal deficit and debt and
continue to allow our economy to expand--and I don't remember Woody and co.
complaining about academia while Laffer implemented his policy, Stockman
approved it while being fully aware the numbers not adding up, and Reagan
completing the largest con job of the century which my generation and I will now have to pay for. | 13 | trimmed_train |
1,947 |
As I've said before, there's no reliable way to find out the size of
the window manager decoration. If your window has been reparented, you
can't assume that the window you're parented to is the window that
holds all of the window manager decoration. There may be several
layers of windows. Doing multiple XQueryTree's until you get to the
root will work in most cases, but there's no guarantee that the outside
decoration window is parented to the root window of the display (tvtwm).
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1,064 |
are you serious? pitchers are pinch-hit for in the nl. they are not in the
nl. if a pitcher is cranking in the al, he will stay in the game. if he
is cranking in the nl, he may not - ESPECIALLY if it's a pitchers' duel,
and his team needs an extra run. | 2 | trimmed_train |
4,882 | Wow, you guys are really going wild on this IDE vs. SCSI thing, and I think
it's great!
However, I think that some people (such as myself) would benefit from answers
to the simple(?) question: Which would YOU choose, and why?
Like lots of people, I'd really like to increase my data transfer rate from
the hard drive. Right now I have a 15ms 210Mb IDE drive (Seagate 1239A), and
what I would say is a standard (not special, no cache I believe) IDE controller
card on my ISA 486-50.
I'm currently thinking about adding another HD, in the 300Mb to 500Mb range.
And I'm thinking hard (you should hear those gears a-grinding in my head)
about buying a SCSI drive (SCSI for the future benefit). I believe I'm getting
something like 890Kb/sec transfer right now (according to NU).
How would this
number compare if I bought the state-of-the-art SCSI card for my ISA PC, and
the state-of-the-art SCSI hard drive (the wailing-est system I could hope for)?
Obviously money factors into this choice as well as any other, but what would
YOU want to use on your ISA system? And how much would it cost?
Along those lines, what kind of transfer rate could I see with my IDE HD's if I
were to buy the top-of-the-line IDE caching controller for my 200Mb, 15ms HD?
And how much would it cost?
I actually have a PAS-16, and could (what a waste I guess it would be...) hook
up a SCSI HD through it's SCSI port which yields an optimum of 690Kb/sec.
Actually, I have a borrowed 12ms Fujitsu HD hooked up through it now (and
own the Trantor HD drivers for the PAS-16 SCSI port). Is this SCSI port a
SCSI-2 port? How could I tell? Is the Fujitsu 2623A a SCSI-2? Are all SCSI
HD's SCSI-2?
Thanks for any comments. | 3 | trimmed_train |
5,518 | I first heard it about academic politics but the same thought seems to
apply to the BMWMOA
"The politics is so dirty because the stakes are so small."
Who cares? I get my dues-worth from the ads and occasional technical
articles in the "News". I skip the generally drab articles about someone's
trek across Iowa. If some folks get thrilled by the power of the BMWMOA,
they deserve whatever thrills their sad lives provide.
BTW, I voted for new blood just to keep things stirred up. | 12 | trimmed_train |
5,301 |
| You certainly do not see OTC preparations advertised as such.
| The only such ridiculous concoctions are nostrums for premenstrual
| syndrome, ostensibly to treat headache and "bloating" simultaneously.
| They're worthless.
| That's not the idea, and no, they don't work.
I *believe* there is a known synergism between certain
analgesics and caffiene. For treating pain, not inflammation.
Now that I am an ibuprofen convert I haven't taken it for some
time, but excedrin really works! (grin)
Nathan
| --
| Steve Dyer
| [email protected] aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer | 19 | trimmed_train |
9,609 | Ok all you trivia buffs, I have a good one for you.
1. Prior to the foul bunt rule what is the record for the most foul balls
by 1 batter during one at bat?
2. Total pitches?
3. Who was the batter?
4. Who was the pitcher?
5. Same as 1-4 except after the foul bunt rule.
Associated data would be nice too (such as date, location, teams, etc.) | 2 | trimmed_train |
8,308 | Right on the heels of the Clinton "registered encryption key" debacle comes:
Wonder how much of that extra money goes into coming up with
encryption schemes they can easily crack? | 7 | trimmed_train |
5,484 | :
: All I have to say is...yeah, right. If you're willing to pay them
: mucho big bucks and/or use the routines *they* tell you to do.
: Doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
All I have to say is this is full of shit. I have negotiated a license
and the bucks are incredibly reasonable with an upfront charge on a
sliding scale depending on your capitalization. If you are a startup
and can't afford it you can't afford to start up in the first place.
Why do people insist on making unequivocal statements about that which
they know nothing.
:
: But I don't guess PKP and RSA are interested in big bucks. Maybe
: they have some other agenda? Secure communications only for
: government agents, perhaps?
Have you considered treatment for paranoia? The government is the
single biggest thorn in RSA's side.
:
: Some limitation. Let me guess: don't use the code in any way PKP or
: RSA doesn't like....such as...providing secure communications for the
: average citizen.
That was exactly its purpose if you know anything about it. There is
nothing at all preventing the average citizen using it, only selling
it.
:
: I hope my cynicism is misplaced here. Go ahead...I'm not afraid to
: be wrong every once in a while. But, I have an uneasy feeling that I
: am right. :(
It is and you are wrong yet you emotionally state a bunch of crap as fact
with a tiny disclaimer at the end. Check your facts first and grow up.
Why is there such a strong correlation between interest in cryptography
and immaturity I wonder. | 7 | trimmed_train |
8,195 |
Your comment here is meant as a put down. It fails for several reasons :
1) You have edited out the context of the action under discussion.
2) I never brought the legal definition up. I use the English language
and not the legal dialect. The legal definition of fraud changes from
one country to another in any case. The context of the discussion is morality
of censorship.
You are extrapolating from the statement I made concerning a circumstance
in which such an act of censorship would be permissable to the Teel case.
If you had bothered to read the post instead of trying to prove how stupid you
thought me you would have done rather better. The mode of argument I was using
was a form of rhetoric. Argument by example, I describe a wide set of
circumstances in which an action is permisable and demonstrate that they
do not apply, thus the action is not permisable.
Obviously a company posting from a University adress would be squashed, it
would be contrary to the internet comercial use.
Now you are clutching at straws. In the context of the discussion it was
the fact of association between the company and the post that was important.
The typeface etc is inconsequential.
If you are implying that I am lying I suggest you read Mark Holohan and Ulick
Staffords posts into soc.culture.british. If you are suggesting that
advocating murder is a trivial matter I would prefer that you state it
directly.
Certainly I oppose the right of Dr Sidiqui and the Ayatolah Khomenhi to
call for the murder of Salman Rushdie. Incitement to murder is not part
of what I consider legitimate freedom of speech.
That is irrelevant, the case is not the incremental cost but the facility
cost. If I decide that a company I am associated with should subscribe
to USEnet that usenet connection is the property of the company. It is
quite legitimate for a company to have a political or other agenda and
regulate the use of its property in accordance with its policy. For example
if a Microsoft employee were to post "Windows NT is crap don't buy it"
from a Microsoft machine I would consider it reasonable for Microsoft to
sack that employee. In the same way if a company decides that it has
political objectives it might wish to regulate postings in a political
manner. This is no worse than Rupert Murdoch using his papers as a political
platform for his views.
ah yes you did not quote them, merely refered to them.
Your article consisted of a reference to the first ammendment, your signature
and pretty well damn all else.
Are you refering to the initial hearings on an injunction or the judgments
on the substantive case?
The initial hearings that the government won were judged on the not unresonable
judgment that assertion by the government that the national interest might be
harmed would be grounds for prior restraint. The second set of hearings on the
substance judged that the government had no case and that the official secrets
act could not be used to suppress information in thwe public domain already.
The part that they won was over the copyright issue which is rather separate.
Here again the issue of censorship is rather different in the case that
information is divulged on the understanding that it will not be communicated
to third parties. The first ammendment certainly does not apply in this
case as the numerous prosecutions of spies in the US proves.
The crux of the Spycatcher affair was extrateritoriality of British law.
The censorship aspect of it arose as a result of the government's
ludicrous attempts to prevent summary of the case in the book.
Funny I saw that as a rejection of an assertion that you had made. Of course in
rejecting an assertion I have to make a contrary assertion, since this assertion
is unprovable I left it at that.
So far I have not seen you demonstrate a command of the contrary opinion to your
own. You are attacking my anti-censorship view because I dare to accept the
validity of some pro-censorship arguments while rejecting their conclusions.
Plus I am not an absolutist. I have this funny idea that the solution to this
problem was not decided in 1789 by a group of white male gentry in secret
session and sumarized in a single line. Furthermore I don't think that the
issues are half as simple as you imply.
I don't think that you have geered your discourse to any audience save that
of proving that you are the only person wearing a white hat.
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3,442 |
I sold my '86 Sprint last April with 95k on it. I'd driven it since
the previous July, putting 20k miles on it. The sensor light used to
light up regularly, starting about 5k miles after I bought it.
My brother and I rebuilt the engine but used all of the original equipment,
so I suppose the sensor could have used replacement. Performance (hah,
if you could call it that) did not change. Perhaps emissions increased,
but how much emissions could a CA-registered 3 cylinder engine produce?
That was a neat car, I held the engine block easily in one hand! Has
anyone ever driven the 'Turbo' variant? Just curious... | 4 | trimmed_train |
1,681 |
[...]
According to the Defensive Average stats posted by Sherri, Baerga had the
highest percentage of DPs turned in the league, while Alomar had the worst.
However, Alomar had a higher Defensive Average. So who would be better?
Using Alomar's opportunities (469 groundballs, 73 possible double plays)
Alomar had 332 groundouts and turned 18 DPs.
Baerga would have had (with same DA & DP%) 328 groundouts and 35 DPs.
Using Baerga's opportunites (545 groundballs, 99 possible double plays).
Alomar would have had (with the same DA & DP%) 386 groundouts and 25 DPs.
Baerga had 381 groundouts and 47 DPs.
Baerga looks better, though it's possible his DP% would be lower with a
different SS.
Will Baerga consistently turn twice as many double plays, however? Alomar
has established a high level of defense, Baerga has not. I would bet on
Alomar to be better next year, but last year Baerga was just as good overall.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| ([email protected]) |*| Grad Student At Large | 2 | trimmed_train |
2,929 |
Wishful thinking mostly. It's more likely that the Moon will never
be the site of major commercial activity. As far as we know it has no
materials we can't get cheaper right here on Earth or from asteroids
and comets, aside from the semi-mythic He3 that *might* be useful in low
grade fusion reactors. Exploring it would satisfy a curiosity itch,
and it's position in the gravity well of Earth coupled with it's heat
sink capacity could offer some military utility for "high ground" military
weapons systems, but it holds very minute commercial value. If space
travel becomes cheap enough, it might become a tourist attraction as
Mt. Everest and the Antarctic have become, but that's a very minor
activity in the global scope of things.
Luna has an inconvienent gravity field. It's likely too low to prevent
calcium loss, muscle atrophy, and long term genetic drift. Yet it's
too high to do micro-G manufacturing. Space based colonies and factories
that can be spun to any convienent value of G look much better. Luna
has a modest vacuum and raw solar exposure two weeks a month, but orbital
sites can have better vacuums and continous solar exposure. Luna offers
a source of light element rocks that can serve as raw materials, heatsink,
and shielding. The asteroids and comets offer sources of both light and
heavy elements, and volatile compounds, and many are in less steep gravity
wells so that less delta-v is required to reach them.
We don't use 2/3rds of the Earth now, the seafloors, and we virtually
ignore Antarctica, a whole continent. That's because we don't have to
deal with those conditions in order to make a buck. Luna is a much more
expensive place to visit, or to live and work. I think we'll use the
easier places first. That pushes Lunar development back at least a few
centuries, if not much longer.
Luna's main short term value would be as a place for a farside radio
astronomy observatory, shielded from the noisy Earth. Or as the site
of a laser, particle beam, or linear accelerator weapons system for
defending Earth, or bombarding it as the case may be. The first is
unlikely because of the high cost for such a basic science instrument.
The second is just as unlikely because conventional nukes are good
enough, and the military would really rather see the Earth safe for
conventional warfare again. There's little glory in watching from a
bunker as machines fight each other over continental ranges. Little
ultimate profit either.
Gary | 10 | trimmed_train |
5,587 |
But what about second sources for pin-compatible non-Clipper algorithm
chips that also have escrowed keys? If a "reputable firm" produces a
chip (with escrowed key) that is a pop-in replacement for the Clipper
chip in my phone, and uses an algorithm that is widely known and evaluated
and "trusted," then what's the problem?
The Clipper is going to be reverse engineered anyway by any organization
with sufficient resources (can you say "billions of cocaine dollars?") so
those drug dealers they're so worried about will be slipping through the
cracks. We law-abiding (non-incredibly-wealthy) citizens, naturally, will
not have this recourse. But claiming that the algorithm can't be
released to prevent people from using non-key-escrowed chips is plain
deceitful... analysis of the chip output will provide information on
the necessary headers and whatnot, so the "bad guys" could build chips
using a *different* algorithm and still not escrow their keys.
Or, they could just buy bunches of cheap phones at K-mart every week,
and play Swap-the-Clipper-Chip with their cellular phone every day.
| 7 | trimmed_train |
5,898 | Here is a revised version of my summary which corrects some errors
and provides some additional information and explanation.
THE CLIPPER CHIP: A TECHNICAL SUMMARY
Dorothy Denning
Revised, April 21, 1993
INTRODUCTION
On April 16, the President announced a new initiative that will bring
together the Federal Government and industry in a voluntary program
to provide secure communications while meeting the legitimate needs of
law enforcement. At the heart of the plan is a new tamper-proof encryption
chip called the "Clipper Chip" together with a split-key approach to
escrowing keys. Two escrow agencies are used, and the key parts from
both are needed to reconstruct a key.
CHIP CONTENTS
The Clipper Chip contains a classified single-key 64-bit block
encryption algorithm called "Skipjack." The algorithm uses 80 bit keys
(compared with 56 for the DES) and has 32 rounds of scrambling
(compared with 16 for the DES). It supports all 4 DES modes of
operation. The algorithm takes 32 clock ticks, and in Electronic
Codebook (ECB) mode runs at 12 Mbits per second.
Each chip includes the following components:
the Skipjack encryption algorithm
F, an 80-bit family key that is common to all chips
N, a 30-bit serial number (this length is subject to change)
U, an 80-bit secret key that unlocks all messages encrypted with the chip
The chips are programmed by Mykotronx, Inc., which calls them the
"MYK-78." The silicon is supplied by VLSI Technology Inc. They are
implemented in 1 micron technology and will initially sell for about
$30 each in quantities of 10,000 or more. The price should drop as the
technology is shrunk to .8 micron.
ENCRYPTING WITH THE CHIP
To see how the chip is used, imagine that it is embedded in the AT&T
telephone security device (as it will be). Suppose I call someone and
we both have such a device. After pushing a button to start a secure
conversation, my security device will negotiate an 80-bit session key K
with the device at the other end. This key negotiation takes place
without the Clipper Chip. In general, any method of key exchange can
be used such as the Diffie-Hellman public-key distribution method.
Once the session key K is established, the Clipper Chip is used to
encrypt the conversation or message stream M (digitized voice). The
telephone security device feeds K and M into the chip to produce two
values:
E[M; K], the encrypted message stream, and
E[E[K; U] + N; F], a law enforcement field ,
which are transmitted over the telephone line. The law enforcement
field thus contains the session key K encrypted under the unit key U
concatenated with the serial number N, all encrypted under the family
key F. The law enforcement field is decrypted by law enforcement after
an authorized wiretap has been installed.
The ciphertext E[M; K] is decrypted by the receiver's device using the
session key:
D[E[M; K]; K] = M .
CHIP PROGRAMMING AND ESCROW
All Clipper Chips are programmed inside a SCIF (Secure Compartmented
Information Facility), which is essentially a vault. The SCIF contains
a laptop computer and equipment to program the chips. About 300 chips
are programmed during a single session. The SCIF is located at
Mykotronx.
At the beginning of a session, a trusted agent from each of the two key
escrow agencies enters the vault. Agent 1 enters a secret, random
80-bit value S1 into the laptop and agent 2 enters a secret, random
80-bit value S2. These random values serve as seeds to generate unit
keys for a sequence of serial numbers. Thus, the unit keys are a
function of 160 secret, random bits, where each agent knows only 80.
To generate the unit key for a serial number N, the 30-bit value N is
first padded with a fixed 34-bit block to produce a 64-bit block N1.
S1 and S2 are then used as keys to triple-encrypt N1, producing a
64-bit block R1:
R1 = E[D[E[N1; S1]; S2]; S1] .
Similarly, N is padded with two other 34-bit blocks to produce N2 and
N3, and two additional 64-bit blocks R2 and R3 are computed:
R2 = E[D[E[N2; S1]; S2]; S1]
R3 = E[D[E[N3; S1]; S2]; S1] .
R1, R2, and R3 are then concatenated together, giving 192 bits. The
first 80 bits are assigned to U1 and the second 80 bits to U2. The
rest are discarded. The unit key U is the XOR of U1 and U2. U1 and U2
are the key parts that are separately escrowed with the two escrow
agencies.
As a sequence of values for U1, U2, and U are generated, they are
written onto three separate floppy disks. The first disk contains a
file for each serial number that contains the corresponding key part
U1. The second disk is similar but contains the U2 values. The third
disk contains the unit keys U. Agent 1 takes the first disk and agent
2 takes the second disk. Thus each agent walks away knowing
an 80-bit seed and the 80-bit key parts. However, the agent does not
know the other 80 bits used to generate the keys or the other 80-bit
key parts.
The third disk is used to program the chips. After the chips are
programmed, all information is discarded from the vault and the agents
leave. The laptop may be destroyed for additional assurance that no
information is left behind.
The protocol may be changed slightly so that four people are in the
room instead of two. The first two would provide the seeds S1 and S2,
and the second two (the escrow agents) would take the disks back to
the escrow agencies.
The escrow agencies have as yet to be determined, but they will not
be the NSA, CIA, FBI, or any other law enforcement agency. One or
both may be independent from the government.
LAW ENFORCEMENT USE
When law enforcement has been authorized to tap an encrypted line, they
will first take the warrant to the service provider in order to get
access to the communications line. Let us assume that the tap is in
place and that they have determined that the line is encrypted with the
Clipper Chip. The law enforcement field is first decrypted with the
family key F, giving E[K; U] + N. Documentation certifying that a tap
has been authorized for the party associated with serial number N is
then sent (e.g., via secure FAX) to each of the key escrow agents, who
return (e.g., also via secure FAX) U1 and U2. U1 and U2 are XORed
together to produce the unit key U, and E[K; U] is decrypted to get the
session key K. Finally the message stream is decrypted. All this will
be accomplished through a special black box decoder.
CAPSTONE: THE NEXT GENERATION
A successor to the Clipper Chip, called "Capstone" by the government
and "MYK-80" by Mykotronx, has already been developed. It will include
the Skipjack algorithm, the Digital Signature Standard (DSS), the
Secure Hash Algorithm (SHA), a method of key exchange, a fast
exponentiator, and a randomizer. A prototoype will be available for
testing on April 22, and the chips are expected to be ready for
delivery in June or July.
| 7 | trimmed_train |
6,374 | From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected] (Alvin):
--Could be. Isn't the 2.5 liter six supposed to be enlarged to 2.8 liters
in the not-too-distant future?
--Aamir Qazi
-- | 4 | trimmed_train |
9,436 |
Wasn't the beef with the English over "taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION",
not taxation itself?
From my admittedly dim recollection of US history, most of the problems
we Americans have had with taxes have been with unfair/unjust taxation
schemes, not with taxes themselves. It's pretty hard to run a government
without any means of support.
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...Dale Cook "Any town having more churches than bars has a serious
social problem." ---Edward Abbey
The opinions are mine only (i.e., they are NOT my employer's) | 13 | trimmed_train |
10,804 | The Toshiba has a 200ms access time, the NEC has a 280ms access
time, right around the Sony/Apple. Access time is, of course,
somewhat important, but not as vital in the case of CDs as data
transfer rate.
All the drives are double-speed drives with maximum data transfer
rates of 300K/second. Any is a good choice. Apple's is very cheap
when included with new Macs and I agree with Christian's comment
about drivers.
Plus, Apple's is bootable on the Centris and Quadra 800. A very nice
feature if you need to install System software. I don't know if the
NEC or Toshiba are bootable on those machines. | 14 | trimmed_train |
9,968 |
Dear Tim:
You say that you were a "catholic," but if you do not believe in the Christian
God (I suppose that means the God of the Bible) and publicly state this,
you are in all probability not a Roman Catholic. "Public heretics, even
those who err in good faith (material heretics), do not belong to the body
of the Church" (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, 1960, Ludwig Ott, p. 311).
All is not lost, however, as you still might belong spiritually to the
Church by your desire to belong to it. As you said, only God can judge
the condition of a man's soul. About judgment, on the other hand, St. Paul
1 Cor 5:12) urges Christians to judge their fellow Christians.
Following the Apostle's teaching, I judge that you should reconsider
returning to the Christian fold and embrace the God of Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob. He is the God who lives.
Concerning what you were told about non-believers when you were a catholic,
that is true. As I have posted before, Vatican II (Lumen Gentium, II,
n. 16) teaches: "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know
the Gospel of Christ or His Chruch, but who nevertheless seek God with a
sincere heart, and moved by grace, try in their actions to do His will
as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may
achieve eternal salvation."
Responding to your solicitation for opinions on the thinking processes
of God, the best I can do is refer you to Scripture. Scripture is one
of the best sources for learning what can be known about God.
Stick with the best.
--
boundary, the catechist | 0 | trimmed_train |
7,823 | Organization: "A World of Information at your Fingertips"
Keywords:
Craig,
You should still consider the Targa+. I run windows 3.1 on it all the
time at work and it works fine. I think all you need is the right
driver. | 1 | trimmed_train |
7,623 | Hi Christian friends,
My name is Joel, I have a sister who's 25th birthday is tomorrow.....She
used to be on fire for the Lord, but somehow, for some reason, she
became cold....she don't want to associate anymore with her old
christian friends.........so I thought maybe some of you could help her
out again by sending her a postcard or card with a little message of
encouragement.....hand written is okay....her address is 3150 Hobart
Ave. San Jose Ca. 95127...........
Thank you and God Bless.
PS: Jesus Christ is LORD!!!!!!!! | 0 | trimmed_train |
2,400 | I just got an IBM-PC XT with no documents. Its a true
IBM, and I was wondering if anyone had the definitions
of the 2 8 position dip switches? | 11 | trimmed_train |
2,509 |
Well, I've provided examples to show that the trend was general, and you
(or others) have provided some counterexamples, mostly ones surrounding
mating practices, etc. I don't think that these few cases are enough to
disprove the general trend of natural morality. And, again, the mating
practices need to be reexamined...
No, but mating practices are a special case. I'll have to think about it
some more.
Indeed. But, while the natural system is objective, all objective systems
are not the natural one. So, the terms can not be equated. The natural
system is a subset of the objective ones.
I don't claim that homosexuality is immoral. It isn't harmful, although
it isn't helpful either (to the mating process). And, when you say that
homosexuality is observed in the animal kingdom, don't you mean "bisexuality?"
This is standard jargon. Read any textbook. The "we" forms are used
throughout.
That's right. The goals themselves aren't inherent.
You could, but such would contradict observations.
But a postulate is something that is generally (or always) found to be
true. I don't think your postulate would be valid.
Yes, and I think the goals of survival and happiness *do* work. You think
they don't? Or are they not good goals? | 8 | trimmed_train |
10,192 |
Oh, that must explain Matthew 18:
1) In that hour came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, "Who then is greatest in
the kingdom of heaven?"
2) And he called to him a little child, and set him in the midst of them,
3) and said, "Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little
children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.
14) Even so it is not the will of your father who is in heaven, that one of these
little ones should perish.
Nice thing about the Bible, you don't have to invent a bunch of convoluted
rationalizations to understand it, unlike your arguments for original sin. Face
it, original sin was thought up long after the Bible had been written and has no
basis from the scriptures. | 0 | trimmed_train |
5,422 | This is as bad as the "Did You Know" Japan bashing of 2 weeks ago. After
finding this set of postings for the third time I hope no one shows up.
I don't know why fools insist on posting to every group. It just
agrevates people. | 13 | trimmed_train |
6,151 | Archive-name: x-faq/part2
Last-modified: 1993/04/04
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Subject: 24)! How do I make a screendump or print my application?
The xwd client in the X11 distributions can be used to select a window
or the background. It produces an XWD-format file of the image of that window.
The file can be post-processed into something useful or printed with the xpr
client and your local printing mechanism. You can use this command:
csh% sleep 10; xwd -root > output.xwd &
and then spend 10 seconds or so setting up your screen; the entire current
display will be saved into the file output.xwd. Note that xwd also has an
undocumented (before R5) -id flag for specifying the window id on the
command-line. [There are also unofficial patches on export to xwd for
specifying the delay and the portion of the screen to capture.]
Two publicly-available programs which allow interactive definition of
arbitrary portions of the display and built-in delays are asnap and xgrabsc.
There are several versions of xgrabsc; version 2.2, available on export [8/92]
is the most recent.
xsnap includes some asnap features and supersedes it; it also renders
XPM output [version unknown]. It is available on export or avahi.inria.fr;
see xsnap-pl2.tar.Z.
A screen-dump and merge/edit program combining features of xwd and xpr
is available from vernam.cs.uwm.edu as xdump1.0.tar.Z. Information:
[email protected].
xprint, by Alberto Accomazzi ([email protected]) is available
from cfa0 (128.103.40.1) in xprint.export-2.1.tar.Z.
To post-process the xwd output of some of these tools, you can use xpr,
which is part of the X11 distribution. Also on several archives are xwd2ps
and XtoPS, which produce Encapsulated PostScript with trimmings suitable for
use in presentations (see export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib/xwd2ps.tar.Z and
contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z). Also useful is the PBMPLUS package on many archive
servers; and the Xim package contains Level 2 color PostScript output.
The XV program can grab a portion of the X display, manipulate it, and
save it in one of the available formats. ImageMagick has similar capabilities.
Also:
Bristol Technology ([email protected], 203-438-6969) offers Xprinter
2.0, an Xlib API for PostScript and PCL printers; a demo is on ftp.uu.net
in vendor/Bristol/Xprinter.
ColorSoft 9619-459-8500) offers OPENprint package includes a screen-
capture facility, image-processing, and support for PostScript and
non-PostScript printers.
Some vendors' implementations of X (e.g. DECWindows and OpenWindows)
include session managers or other desktop programs which include "print portion
of screen" or "take a snapshot" options. Some platforms also have tools which
can be used to grab the frame-buffer directly; the Sun systems, for example,
have a 'screendump' program which produces a Sun raster file. Some X terminals
have local screen-dump utilities to write PostScript to a local serial printer.
Some vendors' implementations of lpr (e.g. Sony) include direct
support for printing xwd files, but you'll typically need some other package
to massage the output into a useful format which you can get to the printer.
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Subject: 25) How do I make a color PostScript screendump of the X display?
If you need color PostScript in particular, you can
- grab the screen-image using a program which can produce color
PostScript, such as xgrabsc and xv
- grab the screen-image using xwd and post-process xwd into color PS.
You can do this using xwd2ps or the XtoPS program from the ImageMagick
distribution. The PBMPLUS package is also good for this, as is the Xim package.
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Subject: 26) How do I make a screendump including the X cursor?
This can't be done unless the X server has been extended. Consider
instead a system-dependent mechanism for, e.g., capturing the frame-buffer.
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Subject: 27) How do I convert/view Mac/TIFF/GIF/Sun/PICT/img/FAX images in X?
The likeliest program is an incarnation of Jef Poskanzer's useful++
Portable Bitmap Toolkit, which includes a number of programs for converting
among various image formats. It includes support for many types of bitmaps,
gray-scale images, and full-color images. PBMPLUS has been updated recently;
the most recent version [12/91] is on export in contrib/pbmplus10dec91.tar.Z.
Another tool is San Diego Supercomputing Center's IMtools ('imconv' in
particular), which packages the functionality of PBM into a single binary.
It's available anonymous ftp from sdsc.edu (132.249.20.22).
Useful for viewing some image-formats is Jim Frost's xloadimage, a
version of which is in the R4 directory contrib/clients/xloadimage; there are
later versions available, including contrib/xloadimage.3.03.tar.Z on export.
Graeme Gill's updates to an earlier version of xloadimage are also on export;
see xli.README and xli.tar.Z.uu; version 1.14 was released 2/93.
xv (X Image Viewer), written by [email protected] (John Bradley),
can read and display pictures in Sun Raster, PGM, PBM, PPM, X11 bitmap, TIFF,
GIF and JPEG. It can manipulate on the images: adjust, color, intensity,
contrast, aspect ratio, crop). It can save images in all of the aforementioned
formats plus PostScript. It can grab a portion of the X display, manipulate on
it, and save it in one of the available formats. The program was updated 5/92;
see the file contrib/xv-2.21.tar.Z on export.lcs.mit.edu.
The Fuzzy Pixmap Manipulation, by Michael Mauldin <[email protected]>.
Conversion and manipulation package, similar to PBMPLUS. Version 1.0 available
via FTP as nl.cs.cmu.edu:/usr/mlm/ftp/fbm.tar.Z, uunet.uu.net:pub/fbm.tar.Z,
and ucsd.edu:graphics/fbm.tar.Z.
The Img Software Set, by Paul Raveling <[email protected]>, reads
and writes its own image format, displays on an X11 screen, and does some image
manipulations. Version 1.3 is available via FTP on expo.lcs.mit.edu as
contrib/img_1.3.tar.Z, along with large collection of color images.
The Utah RLE Toolkit is a conversion and manipulation package similar
to PBMPLUS. Available via FTP as cs.utah.edu:pub/urt-*,
weedeater.math.yale.edu:pub/urt-*, and freebie.engin.umich.edu:pub/urt-*.
Xim, The X Image Manipulator, by Philip Thompson, does essential
interactive displaying, editing, filtering, and converting of images. There is
a version in the X11R4 contrib area; but a more recent version (using R4 and
Motif 1.1) is available from gis.mit.edu (18.80.1.118). Xim reads/writes gif,
xwd, xbm, tiff, rle, xim, (writes level 2 eps) and other formats and also has a
library and command-line utilities for building your own applications.
ImageMagick [2.3; 2/93] by [email protected] can be retrieved from
export's contrib area. It is a collection of utilities to transform and display
images on any X server. The tool uses the MIFF format; filters to and from MIFF
from other popular formats (PPM, TIFF, GIF, SUN Raster, etc) are included.
xtiff is a tool for viewing a TIFF file in an X window. It was written
to handle as many different kinds of TIFF files as possible while remaining
simple, portable and efficient. xtiff illustrates some common problems
with building pixmaps and using different visual classes. It is distributed
as part of Sam Leffler's libtiff package and it is also available on
export.lcs.mit.edu, uunet.uu.net and comp.sources.x. [[email protected],10/90]
xtiff 2.0 was announced in 4/91; it includes Xlib and Xt versions.
A version of Lee Iverson's ([email protected]) image-viewing tool
is available as contrib/vimage-0.9.3.tar.Z on export.lcs.mit.edu. The package
also includes an ImageViewPort widget and a FileDialog widget. [12/91;5/92]
[some material from Larry Carroll ([email protected]), 5/91]
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Subject: 28) How can I change the titlebar of my xterm window?
The solution involves sending an escape sequence to xterm which will
cause it to update the property which the window manager relies upon for the
string which appears in the window titlebar.
A solution is as easy as typing this in an xterm running a shell:
echo "ESC]2;TEXT^G"
where ESC is the escape key, TEXT is the string you wish to have displayed,
and ^G is a Control-G (the BEL character).
Here is a more complicated csh alias which changes the titlebar to
the current working directory when you change directories:
alias newcd 'cd \!*; echo -n ESC]2\;$cwd^G'
The digit '2' in these strings indicates to xterm that it should
change only the title of the window; to change both the title and the name
used in the icon, use the digit '0' instead, and use '1' to change only the
icon name.
Note: another way to do this, which prevents an incorrect display of
the local directory if a modified `cd` is used in a subshell, is to wrap the
escape sequences into the PS1 prompt itself.
Note: on an IBM RS/6000 is may be necessary to begin the sequence with
a ^V.
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Subject: 29) Where can I find the xterm control sequences?
The best source of such information is in your R5 sources in the file
ctlseqs.ms; a PostScript version is in mit/hardcopy/clients/ctlseqs.PS.Z.
O'Reilly's Volume 3, the X User's Guide, includes an R5 version of the control
sequences; the standard volume will be available 3/93, and a Motif version of
the book is available now. The current (R4) guide includes an outdated version
of the control sequences. [1/93]
Other good sources of information include the R4 version of that document
and also the file in the R4 sources called mit/clients/xterm/ctlseq2.txt, a
compilation put together by Skip Montanaro (GE CR&D) listing the VT100
sequences. It dates from R3 but is fairly accurate. A hardcopy version was
published in the December 1989 XNextEvent (the XUG newsletter).
In a pinch, a VT100 manual will do.
[last updated 10/91]
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Subject: 30)- Why does the R3 xterm, et al, fail against the R4 server?
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Subject: 31) How can I use characters above ASCII 127 in xterm ?
In order to use special characters such as the o-umlaut, you need to
"stty pass8" but also to use a charcell ISO8859 font, such as
XTerm*font: -*-*-medium-r-normal-*-*-130-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
XTerm*boldfont: -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-*-130-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
[The family is intentionally unspecified in this example.]
In addition, you may want to set this in your shell:
setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1
For a given character above 127, you can determine the key to use with
the Alt modifier by finding the equivalent character below 127 (try using
`man ascii`). For example, o-umlaut (v) is Alt-v and the section character (')
is Alt-'.
[thanks to Greg Holmberg (greg%[email protected]) and Stephen Gildea
([email protected]); 6/92]
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Subject: 32) Why are my xterm menus so small?
You are probably setting the geometry small accidentally. If you give
a resource specification like this:
xterm*geometry: 80x24
then you are asking for all widgets under xterm to have their geometry set to
80x24. For the main window, this is OK, as it uses characters for its size.
But its popup menus don't; they are in pixels and show up small. To set only
the terminal widget to have the specified geometry, name it explicitly:
xterm*VT100.geometry: 80x24
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Subject: 33) How can I print the current selection?
You could paste it into an xterm after executing the lpr command.
However, a program by Richard Hesketh ([email protected]) specifically for
manipulating the selection will help; e.g.
% xselection PRIMARY | lpr
finds the primary selection and prints it. This command can be placed in a
window-manager menu or in shell-scripts. xselection also permits the setting of
the selection and other properties. A version is on export.
Also available is ria.ccs.uwo.ca:pub/xget_selection.tar.Z, which can be
adapted to do this.
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Subject: 34) How does Xt use environment variables in loading resources?
You can use several environment variables to control how resources are
loaded for your Xt-based programs -- XFILESEARCHPATH, XUSERFILESEARCHPATH, and
XAPPLRESDIR. These environment variables control where Xt looks for
application-defaults files as an application is initializing. Xt loads at most
one app-defaults file from the path defined in XFILESEARCHPATH and another from
the path defined in XUSERFILESEARCHPATH.
Set XFILESEARCHPATH if software is installed on your system in such a
way that app-defaults files appear in several different directory hierarchies.
Suppose, for example, that you are running Sun's Open Windows, and you also
have some R4 X applications installed in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults. You could
set a value like this for XFILESEARCHPATH, and it would cause Xt to look up
app-defaults files in both /usr/lib/X11 and /usr/openwin/lib (or wherever your
OPENWINHOME is located):
setenv XFILESEARCHPATH /usr/lib/X11/%T/%N:$OPENWINHOME/lib/%T/%N
The value of this environment variable is a colon-separated list of pathnames. The pathnames contain replacement characters as follows (see
XtResolvePathname()):
%N The value of the filename parameter, or the
application's class name.
%T The value of the file "type". In this case, the
literal string "app-defaults"
%C customization resource (R5 only)
%S Suffix. None for app-defaults.
%L Language, locale, and codeset (e.g. "ja_JP.EUC")
%l Language part of %L (e.g. "ja")
%t The territory part of the display's language string
%c The codeset part of the display's language string
Let's take apart the example. Suppose the application's class name is
"Myterm". Also, suppose Open Windows is installed in /usr/openwin. (Notice the
example omits locale-specific lookup.)
/usr/lib/X11/%T/%N means /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Myterm
$OPENWINHOME/lib/%T/%N means /usr/openwin/lib/app-defaults/Myterm
As the application initializes, Xt tries to open both of the above
app-defaults files, in the order shown. As soon as it finds one, it reads it
and uses it, and stops looking for others. The effect of this path is to
search first in /usr/lib/X11, then in /usr/openwin.
Let's consider another example. This time, let's set
XUSERFILESEARCHPATH so it looks for the file Myterm.ad in the current working
directory, then for Myterm in the directory ~/app-defaults.
setenv XUSERFILESEARCHPATH ./%N.ad:$HOME/app-defaults/%N
The first path in the list expands to ./Myterm.ad. The second expands
to $HOME/app-defaults/Myterm. This is a convenient setting for debugging
because it follows the Imake convention of naming the app-defaults file
Myterm.ad in the application's source directory, so you can run the application
from the directory in which you are working and still have the resources loaded
properly. NOTE: when looking for app-default files with XUSERFILESEARCHPATH,
for some bizarre reason, neither the type nor file suffix is defined so %T and
%S are useless.
With R5, there's another twist. You may specify a customization
resource value. For example, you might run the "myterm" application like this:
myterm -xrm "*customization: -color"
If one of your pathname specifications had the value
"/usr/lib/X11/%T/%N%C" then the expanded pathname would be
"/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Myterm-color" because the %C substitution character
takes on the value of the customization resource.
The default XFILESEARCHPATH, compiled into Xt, is:
/usr/lib/X11/%L/%T/%N%C:\ (R5)
/usr/lib/X11/%l/%T/%N%C:\ (R5)
/usr/lib/X11/%T/%N%C:\ (R5)
/usr/lib/X11/%L/%T/%N:\
/usr/lib/X11/%l/%T/%N:\
/usr/lib/X11/%T/%N
(Note: some sites replace /usr/lib/X11 with a ProjectRoot in
this batch of default settings.)
The default XUSERFILESEARCHPATH, also compiled into Xt, is
<root>/%L/%N%C:\ (R5)
<root>/%l/%N%C:\ (R5)
<root>/%N%C:\ (R5)
<root>/%L/%N:\
<root>/%l/%N:\
<root>/%N:
<root> is either the value of XAPPLRESDIR or the user's home directory
if XAPPLRESDIR is not set. If you set XUSERFILESEARCHPATH to some value other
than the default, Xt ignores XAPPLRESDIR altogether.
Notice that the quick and dirty way of making your application find
your app-defaults file in your current working directory is to set XAPPLRESDIR
to ".", a single dot. In R3, all this machinery worked differently; for R3
compatibilty, many people set their XAPPLRESDIR value to "./", a dot followed
by a slash.
[Thanks to Oliver Jones ([email protected]); 2/93.]
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Subject: 35) How to I have the R4 xdm put a picture behind the log-in window?
The answer lies in changing xdm's xrdb resource in the xdm-config file to run a
program to change the background before loading the resources; for example,
your /usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config file may add the line
DisplayManager.0.authorize: false
to permit unrestricted access to the display before log-in (beware!) and also
DisplayManager*xrdb: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/new.xrdb
where that file does something (for all connections) along the lines of:
#!/bin/sh
#comes in with arguments: -display :0 -load /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources
/usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -display $2 -bitmap /usr/lib/X11/xdm/new.bitmap
/usr/bin/X11/xrdb $*
Substitute xloadimage or xv for xsetroot, to taste. Note that this is a
general hack that can be used to invoke a console window or any other client.
[Thanks to Jay Bourland ([email protected]), 9/91]
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Subject: 36) Why isn't my PATH set when xdm runs my .xsession file?
When xdm runs your .xsession it doesn't source your .cshrc or .login
files. You can set the path explicitly as you normally could for any SH script;
or you can place all environment-setting statements in a separate file and
source it from both the .xsession file and your shell configuration file; or,
if you set your PATH in your .cshrc file, the normal place, you can make your
.xsession have PATH set simply by making it a csh script, i.e. by starting
your .xsession file off with "#!/bin/csh".
If this doesn't work, also try starting off with:
#!/bin/sh
# Reset path:
PATH=`csh -c 'echo $PATH'` ; export PATH
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Subject: 37) How do I keep my $DISPLAY when I rlogin to another machine?
There are several ways to avoid having to do a "setenv DISPLAY ..."
whenever you log in to another networked UNIX machine running X.
One solution is to use the clients/xrsh on the R5 contrib tape. It
includes xrsh, a script to start an X application on remote machine, and
xrlogin, a script to start a local xterm running rlogin to a remote machine.
A more recent version is on export in xrsh-5.4.shar.
One solution is to use the xrlogin program from der Mouse
([email protected]). You can ftp caveat-emptor versions from
132.206.1.1, in X/xrlogin.c and X/xrlogind.c. The program packages up $TERM and
$DISPLAY into a single string, which is stuffed into $TERM. rlogin then
propagates $TERM normally; your .cshrc on the remote machine should contain
eval `xrlogind`
where xrlogind is a program that checks $TERM and if it is of the special
format it recognizes, unpacks it and spits out setenv and unsetenv commands to
recreate the environment variables. [11/90]
In addition, if all you need to do is start a remote X process on
another host, and you find
rsh <HOST> -n /usr/bin/X11/xterm -display $DISPLAY
too simple (DISPLAY must have your real hostname), then this version of xrsh
can be used to start up remote X processes. The equivalent usage would be
xrsh <HOST> xterm
#! /bin/sh
# start an X11 process on another host
# Date: 8 Dec 88 06:29:34 GMT
# From: Chris Torek <[email protected]>
# rsh $host -n "setenv DISPLAY $DISPLAY; exec $@ </dev/null >&/dev/null"
#
# An improved version:
# rXcmd (suggested by John Robinson, [email protected])
# (generalized for sh,ksh by Keith Boyer, [email protected])
#
# but they put the rcmd in ()'s which left zombies again. This
# script combines the best of both.
case $# in
[01]) echo "Usage: $0 host x-cmd [args...]";;
*)
case $SHELL in
*csh*) host="$1"; shift
xhost "$host" > /dev/null
rsh "$host" -n \
"setenv TERM xterm; setenv DISPLAY `hostname`:0; \
exec $* </dev/null >& /dev/null" &
;;
*sh)
host="$1"; shift
xhost "$host" > /dev/null
rsh "$host" -n \
"TERM=xterm export TERM; \
DISPLAY=`hostname`:0 export DISPLAY; \
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11/lib export LD_LIBRARY_PATH; \
PATH=\$PATH:/usr/X11/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/bin; \
export PATH; \
exec $* < /dev/null > /dev/null 2>&1" &
;;
esac
;;
esac
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Subject: 38) How can I design my own font?
One way is to use the "bitmap" client or some other bitmap-editor (e.g.
Sun's icon-editor tool, post-processed with pbmplus) to design the individual
characters and then to do some large amount of post-processing to concatenate
them into the BDF format. See Ollie Jones's article in the November 91 X
Journal for more information.
The R3 contrib/ area (in fonts/utils/ and in clients/xtroff) contained
a number of useful utilities, including some to convert between BDF font format
and a simple character format which can be edited with any text editor.
An easier way is to use the "xfed" client to modify an existing font; a
version is on the R4 or R5 X11R5 contrib tape in contrib/clients/xfed. Xfed is
available for anonymous ftp on ftp.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.64.63],
possibly as file /pub/windows/X/Diverse-X11-Sourcen/xfed.tar.Z. It can produce
BDF-format fonts which can be compiled for a variety of X servers.
The xfedor client from Group Bull permits creation of bitmaps, cursors,
XPM1 pixmaps, and fonts. Binaries for common machines are on avahi.inria.fr in
/pub; in addition, the sources (an old Xlib implementation) have been placed
[5/91] in export:/contrib.
If you are a MetaFont user you can use "mftobdf" from the SeeTeX
distribution to convert PK, GF, and PXL fonts to BDF format; the distribution
is on ftp.cs.colorado.edu and on export.lcs.mit.edu.
The GNU package fontutils-0.4.tar.Z on prep.ai.mit.edu includes xbfe,
a font editor, and a number of utilities for massaging font formats.
The O'Reilly X Resource issue #2 contains an article on using these
tools to modify a font.
Fonts can be resized with Hiroto Kagotani's bdfresize; a new version is
in ftp.cs.titech.ac.jp:/X11/contrib.
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Subject: 39) Why does adding a font to the server not work (sic)?
After you have built the font using your system's font-compiler,
installed it in some directory, and run `mkfontdir` or your system's equivalent
(e.g. bldfamily for OpenWindows) in that directory, be sure to use `xset +fp
$dir` to add that full path-name to the server's font-path, *or* if the
directory is already in the path, use `xset fp rehash` so that the new fonts in
that directory are actually found; it is this last step that you're probably
leaving out. (You can also use `xset q` to make sure that that directory is in
the path.)
Sometimes your "xset +fp $dir" command fails with a BadValue error:
X Error of failed request:BadValue
(integer parameter out of range for operation)
Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath)
This means the X server cannot find or read your font directory, or
that your directory does not look like a font directory to the server. (The
mention of an "integer parameter" in the message is spurious.)
-- Is the font directory you're specifying readable from the SERVER's file
system? Remember, it's the server, not the client, which interprets your
font directory. Trouble in this area is especially likely when you issue an
xset command with shell metacharacters in it (e.g. "xset +fp ~/myfonts") and
the server is an X terminal or managed by xdm.
-- Is the directory really a font directory? If you're running an MIT server
(or most varieties of vendor servers) look in the directory for the file
"fonts.dir". If you can't find that file, run mkfontdir(1). (If you're
running OpenWindows, look for the file "Families.list". If you can't find
it, run bldfamily(1).)
-- If you're in a site where some people run X11Rn servers and others run a
proprietary server with nonstandard font formats (OpenWindows, for
example), make sure the font directory is right for the server you're using.
Hint: if the directory contains .pcf and/or .snf files, it won't work for
Open Windows. If the directory contains .ff and/or .fb files, it won't work
for X11Rn.
[thanks to der Mouse ([email protected]) and to Oliver Jones
([email protected]); 7/92 ]
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Subject: 40) How do I convert a ".snf" font back to ".bdf" font?
A tool called "snftobdf 1.4" is part of the bdftools package, which is
available from export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib/bdftools.tar.Z and from
crl.nmsu.edu:pub/misc/bdftools.tar.Z. [2/91]
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Subject: 41) What is a general method of getting a font in usable format?
der Mouse's getbdf is one solution; it connects to a server and
produces a .BDF file for any font the server is willing to let it. It can be
used as an anything-to-BDF converter, but requires access to a server that can
understand the font file, thus is both more and less powerful than other tools
such as snftobdf. getbdf is on 132.206.1.1 in X/getbdf.c or available via mail
from [email protected]. [5/91]
In addition, the R5 program "fstobdf" can produce bdf for any font that
the R5 server has access to.
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Subject: 42) How do I use DECwindows fonts on my non-DECwindows server?
The DECwindows fonts typically don't exist on a non-DEC installation,
but rewrite rules can be used to alias fonts used by DECwindows applications to
standard MIT fonts of similar characteristics and size. Pick up the file
contrib/DECwindows_on_X11R4_font.aliases from export.lcs.mit.edu; this file is
for a standard MIT R4 server. It can also serve as a starting point for
creating a similar aliases file for the Open Windows server or other servers
which do not use the MIT font scheme.
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Subject: 43) How do I add ".bdf" fonts to my DECwindows server?
The format of fonts preferred by DEC's X server is the ".pcf" format.
You can produce this compiled format from the .bdf format by using DEC's dxfc
font-compiler. Note that the DEC servers can also use raw .bdf fonts, with a
performance hit.
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Subject: 44)! How can I set backgroundPixmap in a defaults file? (What is XPM?)
I want to be able to do something like this:
xclock*backgroundPixmap: /usr/include/X11/bitmaps/rootweave
You can't do this. The backgroundPixmap resource is a pixmap of the
same depth as the screen, not a bitmap (which is a pixmap of depth 1). Because
of this, writing a generic String to Pixmap converter is impossible, since
there is no accepted convention for a file format for pixmaps. Therefore,
neither the X Toolkit or the Athena widget set define a String to Pixmap
converter, because there is no converter you cannot specify this value as a
resource. The Athena widget set does define a String to Bitmap converter for
use in many of its widgets, however.
[courtesy Chris D. Peterson (now [email protected]), 4/90]
However:
A specific converter which encapsulates much of the functionality of
the xloadimage package by Jim Frost was posted 12/90 by Sebastian Wangnick
([email protected]); it permits loading of a number of
image formats as a pixmap.
The leading general-purpose format for pixmaps is the XPM format used
by Groupe Bull in several of its programs, including the GWM window manager, by
AT&T in its olpixmap editor, and by ICS in its interface builder. XPM
distribution, available on export as contrib/xpm.tar.Z, includes read/write
routines which can easily be adapted to converters by new widgets which want to
allow specification of pixmap resources in the above manner. See information
on the xpm-talk mailing list above. XPM 3.0f was announced in 3/93 and is
available from export.lcs.mit.edu and avahi.inria.fr; an older version is on
the R5 contrib tape. [A set of XPM icons collected by Anthony Thyssen
([email protected]) is on export in contrib/AIcons.]
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Subject: 45) Why can't I override translations? Only the first item works.
You probably have an extra space after the specification of the first
item, like this:
basic*text.translations: #override \
Ctrl<Key>a: beginning-of-line() \n\
Ctrl<Key>e: end-of-line()
^ extra space
The newline after that space is ending the translation definition.
[Thanks to Timothy J. Horton, 5/91]
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Subject: 46) How can I have xclock or oclock show different timezones?
One solution is xchron, in Volume 6 of comp.sources.x, which can show
the time for timezones other than the local one.
Alternatively, you can probably set the timezone in the shell from
which you invoke the xclock or oclock, or use a script similar to this:
#!/bin/sh
TZ=PST8PDT xclock -name "San_Luis_Obispo_CA" 2> /dev/null &
TZ=EST5EDT xclock -name "King_Of_Prussia_PA" 2> /dev/null &
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Subject: 47) I have xmh, but it doesn't work. Where can I get MH?
The xmh mail-reader requires the Rand MH mail/message handling system,
which is not part of the UNIX software distribution for many machines. A list
of various ftp, uucp, e-mail and US-mail sites for both xmh and MH is given in
the monthly MH FAQ; one source is ics.uci.edu in the file pub/mh/mh-6.7.tar.Z.
If you do not receive the comp.mail.mh newsgroup or the MH-users mailing list,
you can request a copy of the FAQ, which also includes a section on xmh,
by sending mail to [email protected] containing the request
"send usenet/news.answers/mh-faq".
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Subject: 48) Why am I suddenly unable to connect to my Sun X server?
After a seemingly random amount of time after the X server has been started, no
other clients are able to connect to it.
The default cron cleanup jobs supplied by Sun (for 4.0.3, at least)
delete "old" (unreferenced) files from /tmp -- including /tmp/.X11-unix, which
contains the socket descriptor used by X. The solution is to add "! -type s" to
the find exclusion in the cron job.
[10/90]
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Subject: 49) Why don't the R5 PEX demos work on my mono screen?
The R5 sample server implementation works only on color screens, sorry.
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Subject: 50)! How do I get my Sun Type-[45] keyboard fully supported by Xsun?
Many users wants the Num Lock key to light the Num Lock LED and have the
appropriate effect on the numeric keypad. The Xsun server as distributed by MIT
doesn't do this but there are two different patches available.
The first patch is written by Jonathan Lemon and fixes the Num Lock related
problems. It is available from export.lcs.mit.edu in the file
contrib/Xsun-R5.numlock_patch.Z .
The second is written by Martin Forssen and fixes the Num Lock and Compose keys
and adds support for the different national keyboard layouts for Type-4 and
Type-5 keyboards. This patch is available from export.lcs.mit.edu in
contrib/sunkbd1216-0314.tar.Z or via email from [email protected].
[thanks to Martin Forssen ([email protected] or [email protected]), 8/92]
A set of patches by William Bailey ([email protected]) was posted to newsgroups
11/92 to provide support for the Type-5 keyboard.
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Subject: 51) How do I report bugs in X?
Generally, report bugs you find to the organization that supplied you
with the X Window System. If you received the R5 source distribution directly
from MIT, please read the file mit/bug-report for instructions. [Look in
mit/doc/bugs/bug-report in R4.]
[Thanks to Stephen Gildea <[email protected]>, 5/91; 12/91]
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Subject: 52) Why do I get "Warning: Widget class version mismatch"?
This error, which typically goes on to say, "widget 11004 vs.
intrinsics 11003" indicates that the header files you included when building
your program didn't match the header files that the Xt library you're linking
against was built with; check your -I include path and -L link-path to be sure.
However, the problem also occurs when linking against a version of the
X11R4 Xt library before patch 10; the version number was wrong. Some Sun OW
systems, in particular, were shipped with the flawed version of the library,
and applications which link against the library typically give the warnings you
have seen.
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Subject: 53) Where can I find a dictionary server for xwebster?
Webster's still owns the copyright to the on-line copies of Webster's
Dictionary which are found at various (university) sites. After it became aware
that these sites were then acting as servers for other sites running xwebster
and gnuemacs-webster, it asked that server sites close off external access.
[The NeXT machine apparently is also licensed to have the dictionary. A
Webster daemon for NeXT machines is available from iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
(129.79.254.192) in "pub/webster/NeXT-2.0".]
Unless you want to get a legal on-line copy yourself or can find a site
which can grant you access, you are probably out of luck.
However, if you are a legitimate site, you'll want to pick up the
latest xwebster, as-is on export:contrib/xwebster.tar.Z [10/91]; the file
xwebster.README includes discussions of the availability, illegality, and
non-availability of dictionary servers.
[courtesy [email protected] (Steve Miller) and [email protected] (Niels
Mayer) 11/90]
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Subject: 54) TOPIC: OBTAINING X AND RELATED SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE
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Subject: 55) Is X public-domain software?
No. The X software is copyrighted by various institutions and is not
"public domain", which has a specific legal meaning. However, the X
distribution is available for free and can be redistributed without fee.
Contributed software, though, may be placed in the public domain by
individual authors.
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Subject: 56) How compatible are X11R3, R4, and R5? What changes are there?
The Release Notes for each MIT release of X11 specify the changes from the
previous release. The X Consortium tries very hard to maintain compatibility
across releases. In the few places where incompatible changes were necessary,
details are given in the Release Notes. Each X11 distribution site on the
network also offers the Release Notes that go with the release they offer; the
file typically can be found at the top of the distribution tree.
[Stephen Gildea, 1/92]
The comp.windows.x.intrinsics FAQ-Xt lists Xt differences among these versions.
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Subject: 57)! Where can I get X11R5 (source and/or binaries)?
Information about MIT's distribution of the sources on 6250bpi and QIC-24 tape
and its distribution of hardcopy of the documents is available from
Software Center, Technology Licensing Office, Massachusetts Institute of
Technology, 28 Carleton Street, Room E32-300, Cambridge MA 02142-1324,
phone: 617-258-8330.
You will need about 100Mb of disk space to hold all of Core and 140MB to hold
the Contrib software donated by individuals and companies.
PLEASE use a site that is close to you in the network.
Note that the RELEASE notes are generally available separately in the same
directory; the notes list changes from previous versions of X and offer a
guide to the distribution.
North America anonymous FTP:
California gatekeeper.dec.com pub/X11/R5
16.1.0.2
California soda.berkeley.edu pub/X11R5
128.32.131.179
Indiana mordred.cs.purdue.edu pub/X11/R5
128.10.2.2
Maryland ftp.brl.mil pub/X11R5
128.63.16.158
(good for MILNET sites)
Massachusetts crl.dec.com pub/X11/R5
192.58.206.2
Massachusetts export.lcs.mit.edu pub/R5
18.24.0.12
(crl.dec.com is better)
Michigan merit.edu pub/X11R5
35.1.1.42
Missouri wuarchive.wustl.edu packages/X11R5
128.252.135.4
Montana ftp.cs.montana.edu pub/X.V11R5
192.31.215.202
New Mexico pprg.eece.unm.edu pub/dist/X11R5
129.24.24.10
New York azure.acsu.buffalo.edu pub/X11R5
128.205.7.6
North Carolina cs.duke.edu dist/sources/X11R5
128.109.140.1
Ohio ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu pub/X.V11R5
128.146.8.52
Ontario ftp.cs.utoronto.ca pub/X11R5
128.100.1.105
Washington DC x11r5-a.uu.net X/R5
192.48.96.12
Washington DC x11r5-b.uu.net X/R5
137.39.1.12
Europe/Middle East/Australia anonymous FTP:
Australia munnari.oz.au X.V11/R5
128.250.1.21
Denmark freja.diku.dk pub/X11R5
129.142.96.1
United Kingdom src.doc.ic.ac.uk graphics/X.V11R5
146.169.3.7
hpb.mcc.ac.uk pub/X11r5
130.88.200.7
Finland nic.funet.fi pub/X11/R5
128.214.6.100
France nuri.inria.fr X/X11R5
128.93.1.26
Germany ftp.germany.eu.net pub/X11/X11R5
192.76.144.129
Israel cs.huji.ac.il pub/X11R5
132.65.6.5
Italy ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it pub/X11R5
149.132.2.1
Netherlands archive.eu.net windows/X/R5
192.16.202.1
Norway ugle.unit.no pub/X11R5
129.241.1.97
Norway nac.no pub/X11R5
129.240.2.40
Switzerland nic.switch.ch software/X11R5
130.59.1.40
Japan anonymous FTP:
Kanagawa sh.wide.ad.jp X11R5
133.4.11.11
Kwansai ftp.ics.osaka-u.ac.jp X11R5
133.1.12.30
Kyushu wnoc-fuk.wide.ad.jp X11R5
133.4.14.3
TISN utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp X11R5
133.11.11.11
Tokyo kerr.iwanami.co.jp X11R5
133.235.128.1
Tokyo scslwide.sony.co.jp pub/X11R5
133.138.199.1
UUCP:
uunet for UUNET customers ~/X/R5
decwrl existing neighbors only ~/pub/X11/R5
osu-cis ~/X.V11R5
(not online until ~ 9 Sept)
utai existing neighbors only ~/ftp/pub/X11R5
hp4nl Netherlands only ~uucp/pub/windows/X/R5
NFS:
Missouri wuarchive.wustl.edu /archive/packages/X11R5
128.252.135.4 mount point: /archive
AFS:
Pennsylvania /afs/grand.central.org/pub/X11R5
NIFTP (hhcp, cpf, fcp, ...):
United Kingdom uk.ac.ic.doc.src <X.V11R5>
00000510200001
user "guest"
anon FTAM:
United Kingdom 000005102000 (Janet) X.V11R5
146.169.3.7 (Internet)
204334504108 (IXI)
ACSNet:
Australia munnari.oz (fetchfile) X.V11/R5
Please fetch only one file
at a time, after checking
that a copy is not available
at a closer site.
[9/2/91; updated for contrib 10/91]
Anyone in Europe can get a copy of the MIT X.V11R5 distribution, including
the core and contributed software and all official patches, free of charge.
The only requirement is to agree to return the tapes, or equivalent new tapes.
Only QIC and TK format cartridges can be provided. Contact: Jamie Watson,
Adasoft AG, Nesslerenweg 104, 3084 Wabern, Switzerland.
Tel: +41 31 961.35.70 or +41 62 61.41.21; Fax: +41 62 61.41.30; [email protected].
UK sites can obtain X11 through the UKUUG Software Distribution Service, from
the Department of Computing, Imperial College, London, in several tape formats.
You may also obtain the source via Janet (and therefore PSS) using Niftp (Host:
uk.ac.ic.doc.src Name: guest Password: your_email_address). Queries should be
directed to Lee McLoughlin, 071-589-5111#5037, or to [email protected]
or [email protected] (send a Subject line of "wanted". Also offered are
copies of comp.sources.x, the export.lcs.mit.edu contrib and doc areas and most
other announced freely distributable packages.
X11R5 and X11R4 source along with X11R5 contrib code, prebuilt X binaries for
major platforms, and source code examples from O'Reilly's books is available on
an ISO-9660-format CD-ROM from O'Reilly & Associates. [as of 3/92].
X11R5 source is available on ISO-9660-format CD-ROM for members of the Japan
Unix Society from Hiroaki Obata, [email protected].
X11R5 source along with GNU source, the comp.sources.x archives, and SPARC
binaries is available on an ISO-9660-format CD-ROM from PDQ Software,
510-947-5996 (or Robert A. Bruce, [email protected]).
X11R5 source is available from Automata Design Associates, +1 215-646-4894.
Various users' groups (e.g. SUG) offer X sources cheaply, typically on CD-ROM.
Source for the Andrew User Interface System 5.1 and binaries for common systems
are available on CD-ROM. Information: [email protected],
412-268-6710, fax 412-621-8081.
Binaries for X11R5, with shared libX11 and libXmu, for A/UX 2.0.1 are now
available from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/archive/systems/aux/X11R5. Patches for
X11R5 compiled with gcc (but not shared libraries) are also available.
[John L. Coolidge ([email protected], 10/91)]
Binaries by Rich Kaul ([email protected]) for the Sun386i running
SunOS 4.0.2 are available on dsinc.dsi.com (please only after-hours USA EST).
Binaries for the Sun386i are available from compaq.com (131.168.249.254) in
pub/sun-386i/sources and from vernam.cs.uwm.edu (129.89.9.117).
A binary tree for the Next by Douglas Scott ([email protected]) is on
foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu; it is missing the server, though.
Binaries for the Sun386i are in vernam.cs.uwm.edu:/sun386i.
Binaries for the HP-PA are on hpcvaaz.cv.hp.com (15.255.72.15).
Source and binaries for HP-UX 8.*/9.0(S300/400/700/800) and Domain 10.4 (68K,
DN 10K) are available through the Interworks Users Group; contact Carol Relph
at 508-436-5046, fax 508-256-7169, or [email protected].
Patches to X11R5 for Solaris 2.1 by Casper H.S. Dik ([email protected]) et al
are on export in contrib/{R5.SunOS5.patch.tar.Z,R5.SunOS5.patch.README}.
Patches to X11R5 for the Sun Type 5 keyboard and the keyboard NumLock are
available from William Bailey ([email protected]).
Also:
Binaries are available from Unipalm (+44 954 211797, [email protected]),
probably for the Sun platforms.
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David B. Lewis faq%[email protected]
"Just the FAQs, ma'am." -- Joe Friday | 16 | trimmed_train |
2,760 | [...]
[...]
You know, it sounds suspiciously like no fault doesn't even do what it
was advertised as doing---getting the lawyers out of the loop.
Sigh. Another naive illusion down the toilet....
-----
Tommy McGuire
[email protected]
[email protected] | 12 | trimmed_train |
9,683 | : This may be the dumbest question of the year, but is there a
: way to 'piggyback' or expand a 6-slot motherboard (all 16-bit)
: to get the usual 8? My case has slots for 8, and I'd like to
: get a scanner, but with all my other cards I'm already max'd out!
: I'm hoping that a simple solution exists, e.g. an adapter that turns
I'm not sure if this will work, but how about using one of those 'T' expanders
used in the low-profile cases. They allow 3-5 slots staggered on either
side of the card. You can install it in the last slot, and then (probably)
have 2 or 3 sideways slots. This is actually how it is done in the low
profile cases - a standard motherboard, the 'T' connector in one slot,
and the expansion cards plugged into the 'T'. I guess you could do this at
each end of the slots (1 & 8) to add even more.
The 'T' connectors are simply tracks with slots on them - no electronics
on it. The only downside - your case won't close, but for a homebrew system,
that may not be a problem.
Don't know about performance, though. I'll leave that discussion to the
engineers. | 3 | trimmed_train |
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