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1,188 | I envision incorporation of new standart into
various communication systems, thus making it prevalent on the market &
therefore cheap. The way to do that may be detaching crypto chip from
communication equipment. It seems logical to provide Clipper chip
to the end-user not as a part of phone, fax, modem & like but in the
form of smart-card compatible with various telecomm. products. Banks
will encourage extensive use of new cards to make transactions by phone.
Natural step will be to cross-reference this card to the person in the
government databases - or else this new version of "wiretap proposal"
make no sence at all; one wish to eavesdrop (spell.) on the particular
person, not on the particular modem or phone.
As a side note, I disagree with one poster, who said he won't care about
ability of the government to eavesdrop, since they can do that now
anyway. Clipper will take away electronic survelliance from citizens,
making it monopoly of the government. May be, we can find examples when
interceptions made by (unauthorised) people uncovered crimes of
state officials ?
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For PGP2.1 public key finger [email protected] | 7 | trimmed_train |
7,177 | [Lots of trippy stuff deleted]
Wow... What is this guy smoking and WHERE can I GET SOME?
Dan | 10 | trimmed_train |
3,142 |
Sorry, I don't follow your reasoning. You are proposing to punish people
*before* they commit a crime? What justification do you have for this? | 8 | trimmed_train |
7,000 | Dear Netters,
My sister has an Apple 12" Color Display hooked up to an LC.
Problem: There is an annoying, horizontal, ghost-like stripe that
precesses vertically about once per second. It is about 1 cm high.
She is in grave danger of going insane because of it.
Any ideas of what it might be and how I might cure it for her?
-Joe Betts
[email protected] | 14 | trimmed_train |
4,898 | Hello,
in the EDN magazine I found a note about the new C&T 82C735
I/O Controller. It support several parallel port protocols,
including
Fast Centronics
Microsoft Enhanced Capabilities Protocol (ECP)
Enhanced Parallel Port (EPP)
The last two handle data rates up to 2Mbytes/sec.
Is there any specification about these protocols available?
Regards,
Christian Franke | 3 | trimmed_train |
4,205 | Hello,
does somebody know the functions XtShellStrings and XtStrings?
I haven't found them in any librarys not Xm, Xt, nor X11, and I need
them to install a tool.
Any hints greatly appreciated! Please reply via e-mail.
Thanks in advance!
_______________________________________________________________________________ | 16 | trimmed_train |
10,067 |
As am I
If "high quality secure NSA classified technology" means handing my key
over to whomever, I'll take PGP any day.
Right now they are billing it as voluntary, i.e. bend over, here it comes.
As soon as enough Wiretap chip based units are out there, how much
easier do you think it will be to redefine "on your own" to mean
write it yourself and don't even THINK about distributing it...?
Get honest, no one is going to buy this trash if they KNOW it's compromised
already, and less will buy it if the algorithm is not disclosed.
The NSA knows that making this stuff available to the public means
handing it to whatever foreign powers are interested in the process.
Since when has export control stopped anyone (especially software wise)
Ask yourself carefully if " high quality secure NSA classified technology "
is something they are going to hand out. Not unless you can drive a
NSA van through the holes.
uni (Dark)
| 7 | trimmed_train |
2,438 |
It's come to this, has it? Defending Al Gore by comparing him to Dan Quayle?
I'd say that about says it all... back to the pit with ye, back to alt.fan.
dan-quayle! Begone!
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Paul Havemann (Internet: [email protected]) | 13 | trimmed_train |
3,425 | 1993 Andrew Tutorial
and
Technical Conference
When: Thursday and Friday, June 24 and 25, 1993
(Deadline for Registration: June 4, 1993)
Where: Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Sponsor: Andrew Consortium of CMU's School of Computer Science.
Schedule: The Tutorial will be on Thursday, followed by dinner and the
Annual Meeting. The Conference proper will be on Friday. All
Conference attendees are welcome at the Annual Meeting.
Wednesday, June 23
Check in: After 4:00 PM
Informal Reception: 7:30 PM
Thursday, June 24
Tutorial: 9:00 A.M. - 5:00 PM
Conference Dinner: 6:30 PM
Annual meeting: 8:00 PM
Friday, June 25
Technical Conference: 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Cost:
Tutorial fee includes breaks, lunch and tutorial materials: $100
Conference fee includes conference dinner, breaks and proceedings: $100
Rooms (student housing): $50 / night
Housing is tight around the campus area, so please register soon. If you
prefer to stay in off-campus housing, please contact us for suggestions.
Mary Anne Cowden will be handling registration. You can contact her by
email, [email protected], or by phone, (412) 268-6710.
Registration Form
Please complete the attached form and return it to:
Mary Anne Cowden
Andrew Consortium Technical Conference
Carnegie Mellon University
Smith Hall 106
5000 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
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Tutorial $ ___________ $100
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Actually, it's Transoft now, and that's what I meant ;) | 14 | trimmed_train |
347 |
<looking around> Who? Where?
Don't look at me. I want to send aid to Russia. Many other
conservatives do as well. | 13 | trimmed_train |
5,365 |
Wow, what a concept! Does anybody want to speculate on how this
"non-connection" would fit into the theft of cable services laws?
It seems to me that unless this case is specifically written into
the legislation that the cable company would not have a leg to
stand upon in court.
Does anybody out there have any specific legal knowledge on this? | 11 | trimmed_train |
474 |
Sure. Why keep using oil? A hydrogen/electric economy would likely be
cleaner and more efficient in the long run. The laws of supply and demand
should get the transition underway before we reach a critical stage of
shortage. | 10 | trimmed_train |
8,347 | AHL CALDER CUP PLAYOFF GAME(S) PLAYED ON 4/16
Providence 3 SPRINGFIELD 2 (OT)
Baltimore 4 BINGHAMTON 3
Utica 3 ROCHESTER 2 (OT)
Cape Breton 5 FREDERICTON 2
GAME(S) SCHEDULED FOR 4/17
Capital District at Adirondack
Providence at Springfield
Baltimore at Binghamton
Utica at Rochester
Moncton vs St John's at Halifax
SERIES STATI (plural of status? :)
Adirondack leads CDI, 1-0
Springfield leads Providence, 2-1
Baltimore leads Binghamton 1-0
Utica leads Rochester, 1-0
St John's leads Moncton, 1-0
Cape Breton tied w/Fredericton, 1-1
=================================================
=================================================
FULL 1993 CALDER CUP PLAYOFF SCHEDULE AND RESULTS
home team in CAPS *=if necesary
FIRST ROUND
Springfield Indians vs Providence Bruins
Gm 1: Springfield 3 PROVIDENCE 2
Gm 2: Springfield 5 PROVIDENCE 4
Gm 3: Providence 3 SPRINGFIELD 2
Gm 4: 4/17 Providence at Springfield
Gm 5: 4/22 Springfield at Providence
Gm 6: 4/24 Providence at Springfield *
Gm 7: 4/27 Springfield at Providence *
CD Islanders vs Adirondack Red Wings
Gm 1: ADIRONDACK 6 CDI 2
Gm 2: 4/17 CDI at Adirondack
Gm 3: 4/18 Adirondack at CDI
Gm 4: 4/21 Adirondack at CDI
Gm 5: 4/23 CDI at Adirondack *
Gm 6: 4/24 Adirondack at CDI *
Gm 7: 4/26 CDI at Adirondack *
Baltimore Skipjacks at Binghamton Rangers
Gm 1: Baltimore 4 BINGHAMTON 3
Gm 2: 4/17 Baltimore at Binghamton
Gm 3: 4/23 Binghamton at Baltimore
Gm 4: 4/24 Binghamton at Baltimore
Gm 5: 4/26 Baltimore at Binghamton *
Gm 6: 4/28 Binghmaton at Baltimore *
Gm 7: 4/30 Baltimore at Binghamton *
Utica Devils vs Rochester Americans
Gm 1: Utica 3 Rochester 2 (OT)
Gm 2: 4/17 Utica at Rochester
Gm 3: 4/20 Rochester at Utica
Gm 4: 4/22 Rochester at Utica
Gm 5: 4/24 Utica at Rochester *
Gm 6: 4/26 Rochester at Utica *
Gm 7: 4/28 Utica at Rochester *
Moncton Hawks vs St John's Maple Leafs
Gm 1: St John's 4 Moncton 2
Gm 2: 4/17 Moncton vs St John's at Halifax
Gm 3: 4/21 St John's at Moncton
Gm 4: 4/23 St John's at Moncton
Gm 5: 4/26 Moncton vs St John's at Halifax *
Gm 6: 4/28 St John's at Moncton *
Gm 7: 4/30 Moncton vs St John's at Halifax *
Cape Breton Oilers vs Fredericton Canadiens
Gm 1: FREDERICTON 4 Cape Breton 3 (2OT)
Gm 2: Cape Breton 5 FREDERICTON 2
Gm 3: 4/20 Fredericton at Cape Breton
Gm 4: 4/22 Fredericton at Cape Breton
Gm 5: 4/24 Cape Breton at Fredericton
Gm 6: 4/26 Fredericton at Cape Breton *
Gm 7: 4/28 Cape Breton at Fredericton * | 17 | trimmed_train |
7,654 | Hi,
I have a problem when using subscripts with MSWord. The
problem is the subscripted characters get cut off on the display,
but print out ok. Anyone know how to fix the subscripts so
I can see them on the screen?
Many thanks, | 18 | trimmed_train |
5,194 |
Are you switching high level signals or low level signals like pre-amp
out level signals? Also, are the clicks you mentioning the big
clack that happens when it switches or are you refering to contact
bounce? How are you driving the relays? TTL gate output? Switching
transistor? How are the relays connected to what you are driving? | 11 | trimmed_train |
2,712 | Now, my ego with regards to my shifting ability is as big as anyone else's, but
I just ordered my first car with an auto trans. I wasn't planning on it; but
after driving a few I was convinced: Things have changed since the days of
"Slip 'n' Slide Withe Powerglide". They shift *better* than I do, there's no
clutch to wear out (Honda wanted $800 for my 4WD wagon last year!- got it done
for $500), it only costs about 5% in gas milage on the highway and it makes it
easier to concentrate on all the radios in my car ;-)
(Oddly enough, while two of my best friends- both in the auto industry here in the
Motor City- have switched wholeheartedly to autos, their wives *insist* on
manual. Shift envy?)
Braggadocio aside, given today's technology and the warranties they're handing
out the auto trans seemed like an excellent choice. Call me a convert. | 4 | trimmed_train |
6,597 |
Who does the categorizing?
---
" I'd Cheat on Hillary Too." | 8 | trimmed_train |
10,319 | Sorry for wasting your time with a probably simple question, but I'm not
an computer graphic expert. I want to read TIFF-Files with a PASCAL-program.
The problem is, that the files I want to read are in compressed form
( code 1, e.g. Huffman ). All books & articles I found describe only the
plain (uncompressed) format. I don't know where to get the original
TIFF specification, furthermore I haven't any access to a realy complete
library. Can anybody direct me to a good book or (even better) to an
specification available via ftp ?
Thanks in advance - Thomas Wolf | 1 | trimmed_train |
5,517 | A section of Richard Badenas' book, "Christ The End of the Law, Romans 10.14
in Pauline Perspective." The section I have is on the Contextual setting and
meaning of Romans 9-11. In addition, there are 111 endnotes.
Since the file is so long, and because of other reasons, I will take requests
for the article personally.
Of course, I believe Badenas' insights to be true, and, quite damaging to the
traditional Augustinian/Calvinist view. | 0 | trimmed_train |
8,326 |
Many Companies package Syquest drives for the mac already.... So unless you
are using one for the IBM world, Id buy a Mac ready Config. | 14 | trimmed_train |
2,861 | >Does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks
>for sounding rockets?
Well, first you work out how much cold gas you need, then make the
tanks big enough.
Our sounding rocket payload, with telemetry, guidance, etc. etc. and a
telescope cluster, weighs around 1100 pounds. It uses freon jets for
steering and a pulse-width-modulated controller for alignment (ie
during our eight minutes in space, the jets are pretty much
continuously firing on a ~10% duty cycle or so...). The jets also
need to kill residual angular momentum from the spin stabilization, and
flip the payload around to look at the Sun.
We have two freon tanks, each holding ~5 liters of freon (I'm speaking
only from memory of the last flight). The ground crew at WSMR choose how
much freon to use based on some black-magic algorithm. They have
extra tank modules that just bolt into the payload stack.
This should give you an idea of the order of magnitude for cold gas
quantity. If you really need to know, send me email and I'll try to get you
in touch with our ground crew people.
Cheers,
Craig
| 10 | trimmed_train |
6,111 |
That would be neat, but nowhere in the Bible does it say
that one who has the gift of tounges can do this. If the gift
of tounges were the ability to be understood by everyone,
no matter what languages they know, there would be no need for the
gift of interpretation, and I Corinthians 14 would not have had to
have been written.
That's a pretty harsh assumption to make about a several million
Christians world wide. Sure, there are some who want glory
for themselves who speak in tounges, just as there are among those
who do not have this gift. There were people like this in the Corinthian
church also. that does not mean that there is no true gift or that all
who speak in tounges do it for their own glory in the sight of men.
I would venture to say that a large percentage of those who do speak in tounges
do so more often in private prayer than in public.
Link Hudson | 0 | trimmed_train |
5,646 | We were talking about Migraine and Exercise (I'm the one who can't
fathom the thought of exercise during migraine...). Anyway, turning
the thread around, the other day I played tennis during my lunch
hour. I'm out of tennis shape so it was very intense exercise. I
got overheated, and dehydrated. Afterwards, I noticed a tingling
sensation all over my head then about 2 hours later, I could feel
a migraine start. (I continued to drink water in the afternoon.)
I took cafergot, but it didn't help and the pain started although
it wasn't as intense as it usually is and about 9pm that night, the
pain subsided.
This isn't the first time that I've had a migraine occur after exercise.
I'm wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and I wonder
what triggers the migraine in this situation (heat buildup? dehydration?).
I'm not giving up tennis so is there anything I can do (besides get into
shape and don't play at high noon) to prevent this?
Thanks, | 19 | trimmed_train |
3,488 | ]I'm going to buy a BMW just to cast a vote for Groucho.
I thought you were gonna buy a BMW for its superior power and handling...
| 12 | trimmed_train |
9,837 | Hi,
I'm trying to write a Motif program on an Interactive Unix machine, and I'm
observing very strange behavior when my program attempts to expose a
DrawingArea. Namely, some Xlib operations work, and some do not. In
particular, the expose consist of two XFillRectangle calls followed by some
XDrawPoint calls, and for reasons unknown to me the point calls are failing
whenever a pulldown or popup up menu is (clicked on and) moved in the
rightward direction over the drawing area, but after the move, is still on
some part of the drawing area. This also happens less consistently when the
pulldown/popup is moved in the leftward direction.
Assuming that my code is not doing anything incredibly odd, is this a server
bug?
Thanks, | 16 | trimmed_train |
9,064 |
I think a new organization would be a much better idea, as the NRA
carries as much undesireable baggage for me as the EFF and CPSR do
for others.
Are any hot-shot, reputable organizers reading this message? If an
effective group comes into existence, it can count on me signing up. | 7 | trimmed_train |
7,160 | Game two of the Detroit - Toronto series will be a rougher game. I believe
that Clark will be coming out hitting on all cylindars. I believe that Probert
will take exception to this and a fight between Clark and Probert will result.
I know this sounds kind of ridiculous, but I know game two Toronto will come
out hitting.
Any takers on this issue?
| 17 | trimmed_train |
1,009 | [followups to talk.politics.guns]
rl> Russell Lawrence
kr> Karl Rominger
kr> I support the right of any citizen with out a criminal history to own and
use firearms, regardless of race, gender, and RELIGION.
rl> Thanks for admitting that you, yourself, adhere to an illogical dogma.
Well, folks in t.p.guns, want to show how Russell's "illogical dogma" is
wrong?
| 9 | trimmed_train |
809 |
I totally agree with that sentiment. But why do you have to go further
and advocate violating what God has set up? That is the question which
you have not answered from Scripture. You can worship on every day, as
long as you work. But God says the Sabbath is all mine. | 0 | trimmed_train |
2,113 |
(WEBSTER: myth: "a traditional or legendary story...
...a belief...whose truth is accepted uncritically.")
How does that qualify?
Indeed, it's almost oxymoronic...a rather amusing instance.
I've found that most atheists hold almost no atheist-views as
"accepted uncritically," especially the few that are legend.
Many are trying to explain basic truths, as myths do, but
they don't meet the other criterions.
Also...
You accuse him of referencing mythology, then you procede to
launch your own xtian mythology. (This time meeting all the
requirements of myth.)
Ah, but not everyone "knows" that god exists. So you have
a fallacy.
And that makes it true? Holding with the Bible rules out controversy?
Read the FAQ. If you've read it, you missed something, so re-read.
(Not a bad suggestion for anyone...I re-read it just before this.)
...should I repeat what I wrote above for the sake of getting
it across? You may trust the Bible, but your trusting it doesn't
make it any more credible to me.
If the Bible says that everyone knows, that's clearly reason
to doubt the Bible, because not everyone "knows" your alleged
god's alleged existance.
1) No, they don't have to ignore the Bible. The Bible is far
from universally accepted. The Bible is NOT a proof of god;
it is only a proof that some people have thought that there
was a god. (Or does it prove even that? They might have been
writing it as series of fiction short-stories. As in the
case of Dionetics.) Assuming the writers believed it, the
only thing it could possibly prove is that they believed it.
And that's ignoring the problem of whether or not all the
interpretations and Biblical-philosophers were correct.
2) There are people who have truly never heard of the Bible.
3) Again, read the FAQ.
Bzzt...wrong answer!
Gravity is directly THERE. It doesn't stop exerting a direct and
rationally undeniable influence if you ignore it. God, on the
other hand, doesn't generally show up in the supermarket, except
on the tabloids. God doesn't exert a rationally undeniable influence.
Gravity is obvious; gods aren't.
No, human reason hasn't always come back to the existance of
"God"; it has usually come back to the existance of "god".
In other words, it doesn't generally come back to the xtian
god, it comes back to whether there is any god. And, in much
of oriental philosophic history, it generally doesn't pop up as
the idea of a god so much as the question of what natural forces
are and which ones are out there. From a world-wide view,
human nature just makes us wonder how the universe came to
be and/or what force(s) are currently in control. A natural
tendancy to believe in "God" only exists in religious wishful
thinking.
Xtianity is no more reasonable than most other religions, and
it's reasonableness certainly doesn't merit eminence.
Divine justice...well, it only seems just to those who already
believe in the divinity.
First, not all atheists believe the same things about human
nature. Second, whether most atheists are correct or not,
YOU certainly are not correct on human nature. You are, at
the least, basing your views on a completely eurocentric
approach. Try looking at the outside world as well when
you attempt to sum up all of humanity. | 8 | trimmed_train |
3,047 | 18 | trimmed_train |
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234 |
I found the MS defrag looks very much like Norton Speedisk.
Is it just a strip-down version of the later?
I have both Norton Speedisk and Backup, so I was wondering
if I need to install MS Backup? | 18 | trimmed_train |
3,152 |
Where the hell do you get off calling it "Arab land"? Jews have been
living there for a long time. Jews didn't just start arriving in 1900,
they've been living there for thousands of years, except for periods when
they were expelled but they always returned home.
Steve
-- | 6 | trimmed_train |
6,575 |
Stacker achieves better compression ratio than DOS6, yet the
latter comes with virus detection, memory manager, and multiple
booting. Each of them are not so good as the NAV, QEMM or NDOS
in my opinion, but with a package of only $45, it's nice if
haven't yet installed all of those stuffs.
Both certainly work with Win31. | 18 | trimmed_train |
3,498 |
Sell the bike and the car and start taking the bus. That way you can
keep drinking which seems to be where your priorities lay.
I expect that enough of us on this list have lost friends because of
driving drunks that our collective sympathy will be somewhat muted. | 12 | trimmed_train |
1,445 |
Well, you really can't dig a hole with a stock Shovel; you at least need some
performance mods like stroking and cams. Besides, it's REAL bad on the
rear tire. | 12 | trimmed_train |
6,444 | Having run completely out of time, I've got to get my prophesies and
predictions for the A.L. out. Qualifications -- one of the worse
finishes in last year's prediction contest.
AL East -- 1993
1. Baltimore Orioles
Why the Orioles? Well, I pondered long and hard, and it all came down to
this:
-- The Blue Jays are going the wrong direction.
-- Can't bring myself to pick the Yankees
-- Milwaukee was a fluke
-- Indians aren't ready to contend
-- Red Sox were bad last year, and didn't get any better
-- Detroit's pitching will be the new definition of "replacement level"
"But you don't really think the Orioles will win, do you." No. As a matter
of fact, I can't see any team in the American League winning either division
on paper (with the possible exception of the Yankees, who I hate). But some-
body has to win, so I pick the Orioles. "You don't really think that Brady
Anderson is going to repeat, do you?" No. I'm basing the Orioles prediction
on the expectation of big years from Cal Ripken and Glenn Davis. "Glenn
Davis? That's insane". Yes. So, without further ado:
STRONG POINTS: Hoiles, Ripken some years, Olson, getting rid of Billy Ripken.
WEAK POINTS: Segui may start. Valenzuela (the original 30-something) may be
the fifth starter. Oates puts his best hitters at the bottom of the lineup.
(Does anybody else think that might be a calculated maneuver to minimize
the effect of a slumping Ripken? If you can't move Ripken out of the #3
spot, why not move the rest of the line up?)
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Glenn Davis wins comeback player of the year.
WOULD BE A BAD SIGN: In a tight pennant race, team trades for Pecota.
ObPrediction: "The Streak" continues. Harold Reynolds leads the team in
caught stealing.
2. New York Yankees.
STRONG POINTS: Abbot, Key, Perez. Could have best pitching in American
League. Boggs should improve on Hayes.
WEAK POINTS: Mattingly still considered best hitter. The Steinbrenner
factor. (The Yankees lost to the Mets. Can wholesale changes be far
behind?) Never count on rookie pitchers (i.e. Wickman & Millitello) to
win a division.
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Boggs hits over .300
WOULD BE A BAD SIGN: Howe gets arrested again.
ObPrediction: Mattingly won't top a 700 OPS.
3. Toronto Blue Jays
STRONG POINTS: Management willing to make big deals. Management has eerie
power to convince other teams its prospects are not suspects. Olerud.
Guzman. Alomar.
WEAK POINTS: The Jackson for Bell trade has shaken my faith in Gillick.
Losing Stewart may hurt rotation (that's *really* a bad sign). No one in
the outfield can get on base. Pitching is thin behind Guzman and Ward.
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Jack Morris considered Cy Young contender in August
WOULD BE A BAD SIGN: Club makes no major deals in August.
ObPrediction: Morris will post better ERA and WHIP totals than last year. And
have a losing record.
4. Milwaukee Brewers
STRONG POINTS: Pitching staff was exceptional -- last year.
WEAK POINTS: Molitor gone. Surhoff at third? Why? Eldred can't keep it up.
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Listach and Eldred play like last year.
WOULD BE BAD SIGN: Bones plays like last year.
ObPrediction: Surhoff won't finish the year at third.
5. Cleveland Indians
STRONG POINTS: Baerga, Belle, Nagy
WEAK POINTS: Pitching staff thin -- losing Olin really hurts. Starts Felix
Fermin.
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Bielecki's ERA is consistent with his Atlanta starts.
WOULD BE A BAD SIGN: Ted Power -- bullpen ace.
ObPrediction: Alomar will be back on the DL by the all-star break.
6. Boston Red Sox
STRONG POINTS: Clemens, Viola, Clemens, Detroit, Clemens
WEAK POINTS: Most incompetent GM in baseball. Key free agent signing -- Andre
Dawson. Burks is gone -- Hatcher in center.
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Rainouts in between Clemens starts.
WOULD BE A BAD SIGN: Clemens on the DL
ObPrediction: Russell will make Sox fans forget Reardon. Interpret that how
you will :->
7. Detroit Tigers
STRONG POINTS: Tettleton, Phillips, Whitaker
WEAK POINTS: If Fielder keeps declining, he'll be a shortstop this year.
Worst rotation in baseball entirely replaced -- but not necessarily better.
This year could be *very* ugly.
WOULD BE A GOOD SIGN: Cecil Fielder deserving the MVP.
WOULD BE A BAD SIGN: Cecil Fielder not whining about deserving an MVP.
ObPrediction: Cecil *won't* lead the league in RBIs.
One more division to go....
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| ([email protected]) |*| Baseball fanatic | 2 | trimmed_train |
773 |
I need some advice on having someone ride pillion with me on my 750 Ninja.
This will be the the first time I've taken anyone for an extended ride
(read: farther than around the block :-). We'll be riding some twisty,
fairly bumpy roads (the Mines Road-Mt.Hamilton Loop for you SF Bay Areans).
I'd say this is a very bad idea - you should start out with something
much mellower so that neither one of you get in over your head.
That particular road requires full concentration - not the sort of
thing you want to take a passenger on for the first time.
Once you both decide that you like riding together, and want to do
something longer and more challenging, *then* go for a hard core road
like Mines-Mt. Hamilton.
In any case, it's *your* (moral) responsibility to make sure that she
has proper gear that fits - especially if you're going sport
riding. | 12 | trimmed_train |
2,375 |
I'm in Edmonton, and while that's usually (or at least OFTEN) the case,
here we were "treated" to the actual ABC telecast of the Kings/Flames
game. I'm with whoever said it earlier - Don Witless (er, Whitman) is
a poor commentator, and not just for hockey. Normally, if the Oilers
were still playing (augh), I would turn off the sound and listen to
the radio broadcast to get decent play-by-play announcing. | 17 | trimmed_train |
3,118 | Can somebody help me out there? I have just purchased Win 3.1 and I just
can't get DOS apps (text mode apps) to run in a window on their own. I've
tried mucking around with the PIF settings etc, but to no avail. What am
I doing wrong? (I didn't get this problem under v3.0).
Thanks in advance ... | 18 | trimmed_train |
11,142 | WHITE HOUSE
OFFICE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT
_________________________________________________________________
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Heidi Kukis
THURSDAY, April 15, 1993 202-456-7035
Julia Payne
202-456-7036
GORE JOINS STUDENTS IN ORLANDO FOR FIRST KIDS EARTH SUMMIT
Will Take Part in Special Town Meeting On the Environment
******** SATURDAY, APRIL 17, 1993 - ORLANDO, FLORIDA **********
WASINGTON -- Joining students from across the United States
and around the world for the first ever Kids Earth Summit, Vice
President Al Gore will travel to Orlando, Florida, on Saturday
(4/17) and participate in a special town hall meeting, hosted by
Linda Ellerbee for broadcast on Nickelodeon, to hear the young
people's concerns and share ideas about the environment.
The Vice President will take part in the "Kids World
Council: Plan It for the Planet" from 2-5 PM (EDT) Saturday
(4/17) in Orlando, Florida. He will tour a display of student
environmental projects, then videotape the town hall meeting
where he will discuss with student delegates their concerns about
the environment and their plans for an environmentally sound
future.
The town hall meeting will be moderated by Linda Ellerbee
and taped for a news special, "Nickelodeon Special Edition: Plan
It for the Planet," which will air on Sunday, April 18 at 8 PM
(EDT). It is sponsored by Nickelodeon and the Children's Earth
Fund.
"Young people care about the environment because they know
it affects our future. Across the country and around the world,
young people are speaking out about the environmental challenges
we face. They are identifying problems, thinking about
solutions, and they are demanding action from their leaders," the
Vice President said.
The Kids World Council delegates are meeting for three days
in Orlando to discuss how to save energy and switch to renewable
energy. They will be following the format and goals of the Earth
Summit that took place last year in Rio de Janeiro. The Vice
President led the Senate Delegation to the Earth Summit.
"I look forward to hearing what young people have to say
about the environment and their future. Their insight into the
world around us is important," the Vice President said.
(MORE)
SCHEDULE FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT
Saturday, April 17, 1993
2:15 PM (EDT) VICE PRESIDENT TOURS display of student
environmental projects.
Nickelodeon Studios
Orlando, Florida
3:30 PM (EDT) VICE PRESIDENT TAKES PART IN TOWN HALL MEETING
with Kids World Council delegates and
Linda Ellerbee.
Nickelodeon Studios
Orlando, Florida
5 PM (EDT) VICE PRESIDENT DEPARTS from Kids World Council
for Washington, D.C.
NOTE: PRESS THAT WISH TO ATTEND SHOULD CONTACT EILEEN
PARISE OR MARTY VON RUDEN IN FLORIDA AT 407-352-7589.
| 13 | trimmed_train |
9,542 | I got a question from my dad which I really can't answer and I'd appreciate
some net.wisdom.
His question is about some 18-24" diameter balls which are attached to
electric power lines in his area. He's seen up to a half dozen between
two poles. Neither of us have any experience with electric power distribution.
My only guess was that they may be a capacitive device to equalize the
inductance of the grid, but why so many between two poles?.
Anyone know what they really are? Is there a related FAQ for this?
Is there a better group to submit to?
We'd both appreciate some enlightenment.
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6,596 |
Both Christians and non-Christians laugh at this quote because
it exaggerates something we all feel, but know is not true. Us
Christians just KNOW that a little better! :)
In God we trust!
-Christopher
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2,873 | Note that if you get the external CD300 for your Centris or Q800 you will
miss out on the sound mixing feature unless you are willing to run a wire
from the motherboard sound input connector to the stereo output on the CD.
Connecting to the sound input port on the back of the computer won't do
unless you can live with mono.
| 14 | trimmed_train |
5,588 |
Yes, and the idea was ripped off from Adobe, which has had a program
called TypeAlign for a few years now. TypeAlign does the same thing
for Adobe Type 1 fonts; *and* Adobe has said that the next version
will work with both Adobe Type 1 and TrueType.
And TypeAlign does some things that TrueEffects does not - including
some things you apparently want ...
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3,481 | I heard third-hand (not the best form of information) that there was recently
published results of a study on Multiple-Personality-Disorder Syndrome
patients revealing some interesting clues that the root cause of allergy may
have a psychological trigger or basis. What I heard about this study was that
in one 'personality', a MPDS patient exhibited no observable or clinical signs
of inhalant allergy (scratch tests were used, according to what I heard),
while in other personalities they showed obvious allergy symptoms, including
testing a full ++++ on scratch tests for particular inhalants.
If this is true, it is truly fascinating.
But, I'd like to know if this study was ever done, and if so, what the study
really showed, and where the study is published. Any help out there?
Jon Noring
--
Charter Member --->>> INFJ Club. | 19 | trimmed_train |
2,293 | Hi!
I'd like to switch my floppy drives so that my 3.5" b: drive becomes a:, while
my 5.25" a: becomes b:. I'm having a few problems, though.
I know that the ribbon cable must be switched, as well as the CMOS settings,
to reflect this change, and I think that I've done that correctly. However, the
drives do not operate correctly in this configuration. From the C:> prompt, if
I type a:, the 5.25" drive light comes on; if I type b:, both the light for the
5.25" and 3.5" drives come on.
There are some jumpers on each drive:
5.25" Label Original Pos. Pos. I changed it to
DS0 ON OFF
DS1 OFF ON
DS2 ON ON
DS3 OFF OFF
IO OFF OFF
MS1 OFF OFF
D-R ON ON
MS2 ON ON
FG OFF OFF
3.5" DS0 OFF ON
DS1 ON OFF
DS2 OFF OFF
DS3 OFF OFF
MM ON ON
DC ON ON
MD OFF OFF
TTL/C-MO8 ON ON
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance. | 3 | trimmed_train |
10,838 |
##It should be noted that NAMBLA has not been present in the
##other 600 or so gay parades in the nation. While I view this
##as an isolated event, I am very troubled by its reccurence.
Thank you for correcting the error in my post to the net.
This information came from a newspaper article that was
fuzzy in my mind. I can only wonder if there have been
similar outcries about NAMBLA's presence in the parades
of New York and Boston.
Yours in Liberation from Molestation,
Mark
North American Micro-Biological Laboratories Association
For a packet containing a sample bulletin, publications list
and membership information send $1.00 postage to...
Note: Sometimes I do the darndest things while trying to
squelch my desire to flame the living daylights out of
somebody for their beliefs and/or associations, especially
if they are so genial... Phil, take it away! :-) | 13 | trimmed_train |
4,257 |
Well, first you work out how much cold gas you need, then make the
tanks big enough.
Working out how much cold gas is another problem, depending on
vehicle configuration, flight duration, thruster Isp (which couples
into storage pressure, which may be a factor in selecting tank
wall thickness etc.) | 10 | trimmed_train |
4,266 |
Hm. A previous poster argued that the fact that the BD's did not rush to
escape the burning building indicated that it was they, and not any of the
government actions, that started the fire. On the other hand, I wonder if,
with a face full of "massive amounts of CS," *I* would be able to escape
a burning tinder-box like that ranch house assuming my best efforts.
-- | 9 | trimmed_train |
5,680 |
[ ... ]
To which I say:
Hear, hear. Motion seconded.
Hovig
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6,552 |
If I have a habit that I really want to break, and I am willing to
make whatever sacrifice I need to make to break it, then I do so.
There have been bad habits of mine that I've decided to put forth the
effort to break, and I've done so; there have been other bad habits
that I've decided are not worth the effort to break. It's my choice,
either way.
I am my own master. I choose what I want to do. I weigh the benefits
of my actions against their consequences, and I use my experience to
help me deal with the unexpected, which in turn make me more experienced.
I don't always succeed, but I never fail, either -- I learn.
Do *you* have any habits you can't break? Why not?
I have arrived at my own understanding of Christianity, just as you've
probably arrived at your own understanding of Islam that is most
likely very different from the way a Moslem thinks of his religion.
Are you "unable to master your lack of desire to understand even the
slightest concept of the Quran"? If that's different, then how is it
different from what you accuse me of? Can I accuse you of having no
desire to understand even the slightest concept of atheism?
Of COURSE not. That's disgusting. For centuries, religions have been
discriminating on sex and treating women as second-class humans;
that's one of the reasons I renounced my Christianity.
No. I don't insult people. Period. It's not in my nature, and it's
not something that I want to do, either.
Not yet -- but my life is the ground I use to practice on. The fun is
in the getting there!
We don't start out perfect; we've got to strive to be something
better. I know my shortcomings, and I know my strengths, and I live
my life according to the decisions I make, and I am content to abide
with the consequences of my decisions as easily as I'll accept the
praise for them. There have been times in my life when I've made
mistakes, yes; I try to never make the same mistake twice.
I regard Christ as a myth. I feel that there are far too many people
offering far too many interpretations of what he supposedly said and
did. The only person who can really judge me is *me*. I choose the
roads I travel, and I decide whether or not I want to reach the end of
any given road or turn back -- and as long as I don't *always* turn
back, there's no shame in it. When I need help, I seek out my friends.
And you don't have a clue about what I'm saying, either. Open your
eyes and SEE; open your ears and LISTEN. I'm not just spouting off
empty words. This is my LIFE, this is what gives me MEANING.
Huh? You're going WAY off the track here.
I say my mother loves me. How do I know, you ask? I can point to
definite things she's done for me, and I can even just bring her to
you so you can ask her, face-to-face.
You say your deity loves you. How do you know, I ask? You can't even
convince me that it exists!
If any god dangles 'heaven' before me like a carrot, promising untold
pleasures to me if I'll only suspend my disbelief and ignore my
rationality for just this once, then I would choose 'hell'. I can
*not* lie to myself to placate another being, no matter how powerful
it is.
Note also that there are several gods trying to lure me this way:
Yahweh, Allah, Zeus, Odin, Ra... Please give me a solid reason to
choose one of them over the others.
[ description of Kendigism deleted -- hee hee! ]
That paragraph demonstrates that you haven't listened to a single word
I've said.
Have you ever gone to an amusement park? Why? I mean, after a few
hours, it closes, and nothing's different except that you're a few
dollars lighter. Going to the amusement park doesn't do you any good
at all. Why do you do such a meaningless thing?
The answer is that you think it's fun. You play the skee-ball over
and over because you'd like to get better at it, even though you're
not going to win anything better than a stuffed animal even if you
blow ten dollars on it. You ride the roller coaster because it's an
thrilling experience, even though (because?) it scares the dickens out
of you.
In the same way, I think life is fun. And I don't intend to leave the
amusement park of life until they close down for the night! :-D
So you (and your holy book) say. By the same token, therefore, Santa
Claus delivers toys every xmas. Don't you see? I have NO REASON to
believe that what you say is true. Please give me some reason that I
can't similarly apply to Santa Claus.
I can't do it, because your existence means nothing more to me than
just your communications over the net. You have no more bearing on
nor importance in my life than that; remove it, and you will cease to
be significant to me.
Are you thereby inferring that your deity is nothing more than a
collection of verses in a book, and cannot be supported without
invoking them?
Or do you mean that the existence of your deity (and, in fact, any
other deity that can be written about) is as real as your own
existence?
Why do you believe what you believe?
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10,576 | From mikefran Wed Apr 21 10:55:39 EDT 1993
Article: 56 of csc.general
Newsgroups: dc.forsale,dc.general,um.general,csc.general
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From: [email protected] (Michael Francis)
Subject: Car for Sale
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Keywords: 1981 Volkswagon Scirocco
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 14:27:29 GMT
1981 Volkswagon Scirocco
Gold exterior and interior
5 speed transmission
AM/FM Stereo with cassette
Sunroof
Engine in good condition
New Tires
Needs $300 work on front left control arm because of damage caused by
pothole.
Runs well
Asking $800.00 AS IS / OBO. | 5 | trimmed_train |
928 |
Sooner than you expect. Remember 'Cyprus'?
Too bad. In fact, by 1942, Nazi Armenians in Europe had established
a vast network of pro-German collaborators, that extended over two
continents. Thousands of Armenians were serving the German army and
Waffen-SS in Russia and Western Europe. Armenians were involved in
espionage and fifth-column activities for Hitler in the Balkans and
Arabian Peninsula. They were promised an 'independent' state under
German 'protection' in an agreement signed by the 'Armenian National
Council.' (A copy of this agreement can be found in the 'Congressional
Record,' November 1, 1945; see Document 1.) On this side of the Atlantic,
Nazi Armenians were aware of their brethrens alliance. They had often
expressed pro-Nazi sentiments until America entered the war. In summary,
during World War II Armenians were carried away with the German might and
cringing and fawning over the Nazis. In that zeal, the Armenian publication
in Germany, Hairenik, carried statements as follows:[1]
"Sometimes it is difficult to eradicate these poisonous elements (the Jews)
when they have struck deep root like a chronic disease, and when it
becomes necessary for a people (the Nazis) to eradicate them in an uncommon
method, these attempts are regarded as revolutionary. During the surgical
operation, the flow of blood is a natural thing."
Now for a brief view of the Armenian genocide of the Muslims and Jews -
extracts from a letter dated December 11, 1983, published in the San
Francisco Chronicle, as an answer to a letter that had been published
in the same journal under the signature of one B. Amarian.
"...We have first hand information and evidence of Armenian atrocities
against our people (Jews)...Members of our family witnessed the
murder of 148 members of our family near Erzurum, Turkey, by Armenian
neighbors, bent on destroying anything and anybody remotely Jewish
and/or Muslim. Armenians should look to their own history and see
the havoc they and their ancestors perpetrated upon their neighbors...
Armenians were in league with Hitler in the last war, on his premise
to grant them self government if, in return, the Armenians would
help exterminate Jews...Armenians were also hearty proponents of
the anti-Semitic acts in league with the Russian Communists. Mr. Amarian!
I don't need your bias."
Signed Elihu Ben Levi, Vacaville, California.
[1] James G. Mandalian, 'Dro, Drastamat Kanayan,' in the 'Armenian
Review,' a Quarterly by the Hairenik Association, Inc., Summer:
June 1957, Vol. X, No. 2-38.
Serdar Argic | 6 | trimmed_train |
5,828 |
Note the clause "more forcibly", above. My point is that they have
made a few pro-forma, perfunctory remarks, and sent in a few C-130's and
so forth, but it's clearly not something they're losing much sleep over.
They're just going through the motions, while Moslems are being "ethnically
cleansed" out of what used to be Yugoslavia. The US has been speaking
out far more loudly than the Moslem nations in the UN and other world
forums.
Precisely. Humanitarian concerns were not the primary justification
for US involvement in the Gulf - oil and geopolitics were. If the
the Kuwaitis didn't have oil (and assuming Iraq still saw fit to
invade them) I doubt you would have seen Operation Desert Storm.
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6,933 | THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_____________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 5, 1993
PRESS BRIEFING
BY GEORGE STEPHANOPOLOUS
The Briefing Room
10:10 A.M. EDT
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know, the President is soon
to be on his way, on Amtrack to Camden Yards. He'll be throwing out
the first pitch.
Q It's MARC, the Maryland Area Transit, it's not
Amtrack.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Oh, it's not Amtrack? Well, he's
going from Union Station, you're right. Excuse me.
Q George, what exactly are you prepared to do to
break the logjam with ??? Senate?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, as you know, there are
discussions between Senator Mitchell and Senator Dole this morning,
and I think that the President is going to continue to make the point
that he believes that our investment package, our jobs package needs
to be passed as quickly as possible. We need this investment for
summer jobs, for immunization, for highway construction, for the
important programs that will put people back to work right away this
summer. And the President continues to believe his program should be
passed.
Q Will he compromise, that's the question?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, as you know, the discussions
are going on this morning in the Senate betwen Senator Mitchell and
Senator Dole, let's see what they come up with. But the President
believes his jobs program should go forward.
Q George, would the President be willing to accept $8
billion for one year, which apparently appears to be the compromise
being offered by --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I don't know what is being
offered by either side. The Senate discussions are going on right
now, let's see what happens today.
Q Would he go that far -- no matter what the
Republicans have offered so far, would he go that far, $8 billion per
year?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The President believes that his
program should be passed at this time. Clearly, we're going to be
willing to listen to what the Senators might or might not be able to
come up with, but I'm not going to get into figures right now. Let's
see what happens.
Q It's reasonable to assume, isn't it, from what has
happened so far that a compromise is going to be necessary in order
to get a vote?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the Republicans seem more
intrested in stopping progress on the President's jobs bill, than in
doing something to create -- MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the
Republicans seem more interested in stopping progress on the
President's jobs bill than in doing something to create real action,
real jobs this summer for the American people. I think there's no
question about that. There's been some frustration of legislative
activity over the last few days.
Q So, you'll need to compromise to get your package
through?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: We'll see what happens with the
conversations between Senator Mitchell and Senator Dole this morning.
Q prepared to compromise --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The President's prepared to listen
to what Senator Mitchell has to say this morning after his meeting
with Senator Dole.
Q Does he feel that he has been defeated in his --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Not in the least. In fact, he's
been very successful so far in the beginning of his term.
Q How?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: He passed his budget in record
time, in six weeks, and it's a budget which reduces the deficit by
$500 billion over five years. And it's a budget which provides for
important investments in our future. Right now we've also had strong
passage of his jobs program through the House. Simply because a
minority of Republicans in the Senate choose to perpetuate gridlock
and hold up action on the President's jobs program is not a sign that
he is not succeeding overall.
Q He can't beat this, can he?
Q The fact is they can do that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the Republicans can stop
action. There's no question about that.
Q What are you going to do about it?
Q George, what do you know about these alleged notes
taken by Boris Yeltsin during one of the meetings in which it appears
that the President told Boris Yeltsin not to trust the Japanese; that
when they say yes they mean no?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think that's a complete
misreading of what happened at the meeting. The context of the
conversation was that President Clinton was actually reassuring
President Yeltsin at the time about his conversations with Prime
Minister Miyazawa over the Kuril Islands and the Prime Minister's
belief that Japan would play a constructive role in the G-7 process.
I mean this was a casual comment about Japanese courtesy and
etiquette but overall it was in the context of a conversation where
he was reassuring President Yeltsin that he believed the Japanese
were serious about their commitment to the G-7 process.
Q Are you saying that the President said that when
the Japanese say yes they mean no?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: That's not -- I don't know the
exact words and there was a much longer discussion about he did say
something along the lines that he believes that on this issue Prime
Minister Miyazawa intends to really go forward with the G-7 process.
Q Have there been any attempts to explain this to the
Japanese because apparently the Japanese press has picked this up and
there appears to be --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I've seen the reports in the
Japanese press and it actually does put the situation in context. It
does talk about the Japanese -- understanding the Japanese points of
view. I don't think it's going to be a problem. I believe that
there may have been some diplomatic context just to clear things up
but I'm not positive.
Q George, was the specific comment that was made
specific to the Kuril Island situation or was it a general
observation on Japanese etiquette?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The discussion was about --
Q The specific comment is what I'm asking about that
has alleged to have been translated from the Russian notes, "when the
Japanese say yes they mean no."
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, it was a combination. I mean
I don't think that's the whole sentence. I think that the specific
comment was a broad, general observation followed up by a specific
finish to the sentence where he said in this case he believes that
Prime Minister Miyazawa means to keep the commitment.
Q Was he saying it facetiously first?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think it was just a casual
observation.
Q And then you say diplomatic contacts were made to
clear it up. Has the President sent a message?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No, I don't think the President
spoke; I believe that Secretary Christopher has made some calls but
I'm not sure exactly how many.
Q Well, this obviously is a bigger deal than you're
making it out to be if Christopher has had to make some calls.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No, no. It was just that we got
the reports in Vancouver and the Secretary wanted to make sure that
it was understood and make sure there was absolutely no
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: -- reports in Vancouver, and the
Secretary wanted to make sure that it was understood, and make sure
there is absolutely no misunderstanding, and I don't believe there is
on.
Q What is our position about the Japanese? That they
may have to say one thing, but actualy mean another?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No. The position on the Japanese
is as the President stated to President Yeltsin throughout the two
days. He said that he had had a good conversation with Prime
Minister Miazawa prior to the Summit. He reiterated the U.S.
position, the long-standing support for the Japanese position on the
Kuril Islands, but also reiterated Prime Minister Miazawa's
commitment to move forward on the G-7 process and to play a
constructive role. And I think President Yeltsin was very glad to
hear that.
Q After listening to Secretary Christopher on Iraq
for the last few days, I'm a little confused. What is the U.S.
policy? Do you want to see Saddam Hussein overturned?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: It's the same policy that Secretary
Christopher has reiterated, and all of the U.S officials have
reiterated. We expect full and complete and unequivocal compliance
with all U.N. resolutions. Right now we do not have that compliance.
Q throwing it out further that if Iraq complies,
Saddam can't stay in office?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Right. I think that that's -- our
judgment is that it is not possible for Saddam Hussein to comply with
the resolutions and stay in power. But the important point is that
we expect compliance by Iraq with all U.N. resolutions, and we will
continue to demand it.
Q And are you concerned the Iran will become the
dominant power in the area --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Secretary Christopher has also
spoken to Iran over the last several days, and he says we also expect
full Iranian compliance with all international norms, and stopping
support of terrorism.
Q That's a very glib statement that he won't stay in
power if he complies with U.N. resolutions. On what logic do you
base that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Right now Saddam Hussein is not
complying with the U.N. resolutions at all. He is not respecting the
rights of his people, as is required by the U.N. resolution. He is
not fully complying with all the resolutions regarding inspections.
He is not fully complying with all the resolutions regarding
armaments.
Q Well, when do you think that if he did comply he
would be out of power?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, right now his power rests on
the repression of his people. If he stopped doing that it would make
it more difficult for him to stay in power.
Q George, back on the stimulus package, why is it
that you and the President accuse the Republicans of playing pure
politics and perpetuating gridlock? Why is it that -- what evidence
do you have that they just don't have a genuine idealogical
difference with you that's in good faith?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, the fact that several times
in the past the Republicans, many of the ones who are now leading the
fight for the filibuster, have supported the very funding they now
seek to stop, most especially, the highway funding.
Q George, in regards to that, some of the moderate
Republicans said that the White House erred by not being more open to
them during the -- while the plan was put together, that they had
one, sort of, proforma meeting between the White House and the Senate
Republicans, and that was it. Does the Administration look back and
thinks perhaps it could have done a better job of working with some -
-
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I'm not sure that it's true
that there was only one meeting. I mean, the President met with the
Republican leadership on at least two occasions before the
introduction of his package. He met with the entire Senate
Republican Caucus also for lunch, and went up there. We are
continually in contact with as many Republicans as we can find who
have an interest in the President's package. We are interested in
what they have to say, as well. But we believe that this program is
important, and we're going to continue to fight for it.
Q your all or nothing, do it with the Democrats
alone strategy, did you maybe miscalculate the ability to get it
through?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I mean, I think that there is
no question that under the Senate rules a determined minority can
frustrate activity. I mean, there is just no question about that.
You only need 40 plus one to keep going. 40 plus one to keep going
and to stop any action, and that's what the Republicans are doing.
Q going to rethink the way you attempt to get
other things passed as you go through this process for the rest of
the summer?
Q work with Republicans and try to woo some
Republicans into your camp?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think we're going to continue to
look for the support of Republicans whenever we can get it on the
President's intiatives?
Q But on this one -- how are you going to do it
differently than you did it on this one because on this one you
really did stiff the Republicans from the beginning and made it clear
that it was a Democratic majority that would get this through and
could get it through and you really didn't need Republican votes?
Are you going to take a different tack when you have to go for
particular votes? When you have to go through --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I can't see into the future and
understand every possible turn in the legislative road. Clearly the
President's going to continue to reach out when he can.
Q You don't have any regrets then about the way you
have handled it up to now and you don't plan any changes in your
approach in dealing with the Republicans in Congress based on this
experience?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Obviously the President would like
his package passed as quickly as possible and he's going to continue
to press for that. We will continue to reach out to Republicans,
there's not question about that. And we'll continue to reason with
them and try and find appropriate avenues for cooperation. In this
case the Republicans have chosen to unify around a filibuster, around
a plan to frustrate action not a plan to move forward.
Q They're being denied any other legislative means of
putting their proposals forward.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think they're being --
Q any ideas.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think their amendments are being
defeated; I don't know that they're being denied.
Q to present them.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: That's not exactly true. I mean
they get the votes --
Q that theirs can be passed though by the
parliamentary rules under which they're playing.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Unless they get a majority in
support all the way around, no, that's not exactly true.
Q George, one more on Iraq. Is the administration
backing any of the Iraqi opposition? Grooming any new leadership?
Q backing any of the Iraqi -- leadership?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Oh, I -- again, we're pressing for
Iraqi compliance. I don't know if we can get into the business of
grooming leadership. I believe there have been some contacts, at
some levels, with Iraqi opposition groups. I don't know about
anything recently.
Q Jesse Jackson, who, of course, is not the
President's best friend, has, however, been told that there is to be
some kind of town meeting, or some kind of involvement by the
President, pre-empted the ball game -- Los Angeles. Will he consider
something like that, or any other kind of intervention there?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, as you know, the President
appointed Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, about 10 days ago, to be a
special envoy to California, and coordiante cabinet activities around
the California economic situation, including the situation in Los
Angeles.
I believe there will also be visits out to Los Angeles
by the Education -- or have been visits by the Education Secretary,
Mr. Riley. I believe that Transportation Secretary Pena and HUD
Secretary Cisneros are also going out. And there may be other visits
by Cabinet officials over the next several days and weeks. I
wouldn't rule out the possibility of a visit by President Clinton to
California. Obviously, he is following the situation closely, and is
concerned about making sure that we make the right long term policy
decisions that will help create the kind of economic opportunities
which help prevent disturbances. But we're going to continue to
watch it.
Q George, as a follow-up, Reverend Jackson is also
supposed to be outside the ball park today, in Baltimore, with a
group of supporters protesting the lack of minorities in baseball
management. Does the President have a position on that?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The President has received
correspondence from Reverend Jackson. I know that Reverend Jackson
has also spoken with the White House Chief of Staff, Mack McLarty.
He clearly raises serious questions. There has been some progress in
baseball over the last several years, but still not enough. But the
President intends to continue to go to the ball game.
Q Is he going to say anything about it today, or see
Reverend Jackson while he's out there?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know if he is going to see
them, but as I said, the President believes that Reverend Jackson has
raised some serious questions, and it's something that, as I said,
even though there has been progress, it's clearly not enough.
Q Did Reverend Jackson ask him not to go to the ball
game?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm not sure about that. I believe
the characterization the Reverend Jackson is talking about is an
informational pickett. I don't know that he asked him not to go to
the ball game, but he sent a long, detailed, formal letter outlining
his concerns with the situation in major league baseball and the
President read it.
Q George, the Orioles are playing the Rangers, the
managing partner of the Rangers is George W. Bush. Is he going to be
there, and is he going to meet with the President?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't know.
Q What is the Mubarak schedule?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I know that President Mubarak is
coming tomorrow morning for a working meeting, they will have a
lunch, and I believe that he is having dinner tonight with Vice
President Gore.
Q And joint statements tomorrow --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I believe so, yes. At the end,
yes.
Q Is there evidence, George, that the Egyptians did
warn the U.S. about a potential terrorist bombing -- terrorist
activities?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As reported in The New York Times,
I mean, I think that President Mubarak did say that there has been
general conversations with the Egyptians, as there have been for a
long period of time. We do have general intelligence sharing, I
mean. But President Mubarak was very careful to point out that there
was no specific information on this visit that was passed forward.
The President will continue to investigate the situation, but he also
reiterates his belief that we cannot tolerate terrorism of any kind.
Q George, he did make specific -- or the Egyptians,
apparently, did issue specific warnings about this individual who,
forgive me --this individual who, forgive me the name escapes me at
the moment, and said the Egyptians were more or less rebuffed in
their attempts to get some kind of action.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again, I don't know if I would
agree with your characterization of the Mubarak interview. He did
say that they gave general warnings about the possibility of a
network in the United States and upon which we took appropriate
action. But there was no specific information on this specific
operation at all.
Q So, the White House doesn't feel that any of the
law enforcement agencies whether it be the CIA or FBI who would have
received this kind of information was lax or derelict in its duty in
not pursuing some kind of --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: No, not at all.
Q What's next with Serbia? It got only a passing
mention in the news conference yesterday --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: You didn't get to ask your
question.
Q Yes, exactly. Was there any agreement on concerted
action between the two countries? And even if there wasn't, what
does the U.S. do next?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think the U.S. is clearly going
to move forward in the U.N. today continuing discussions with our
allies on a sanctions resolution and we'll continue to look for ways
to press the Serbians to come to the negotiating table and sign an
agreement.
Q George, why do you think sanctions is still an
option? I mean the Serbians make it clear that at least the
leadership is surviving just fine and they feel like they can wait
you out and even the administration officials we had in the other day
said there's no evidence that they're going to have an effect any
time soon. The Bosnian Serbs have said no to the peace plan. When
does no mean no and you have to do something different?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I mean we are doing something
different. We're moving forward on further sanctions through the
U.N. and those discussions will continue. We're going to continue to
try and tighten the noose on Serbia, and I think that every
opportunity we have to do that will have an effect over time.
Q Are we looking again at lifting the arms embargo?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: The President has said that this is something
that is under consideration.
Q George, do you have any more on Hugh Rodham's
condition, how he's doing?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As far as I know nothing's changed.
Q George, -- week after Mr. Mubarak?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: It's a little unclear. I think
we'll be able to get you more either tonight or tomorrow morning
after the Mubarak visit.
Q Is he going somewhere for Easter?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Not that I know of.
Q What more can you tell us about the additional aid
to Russia that the President plans to ask Congress about?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: He's going to be consulting with
the Congress and with our G-7 partners over the next couple of weeks.
I know that he spoke last evening with Congressman Gephardt and their
delegation before the -- the congressional delegation meets with the
Russians this week and those consultations will continue over the
next several weeks.
Q Do you expect that package to be of the magnitude
of the one announced Sunday?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I'm not going to discuss the
magnitude.
Q How about the list of Cold War restrictions, where
do you stand on that --
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As the President said yesterday,
he's going to be looking for that list from the Congress this week
and reviewing it. He believes -- he's going to try and get it this
week and he's going to review the list, and we're going to take a
hard look at it.
Q But they're making it up? I mean it's no White
House involvement, Congress is compiling this list?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: I think he's going to talk to the
congressional leaders about compiling the list but I'm certain we'll
be able to get our own researchers working as well.
Q George, isn't lifting the arms embargo more of a
probability than a possibility?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: It's something that's under
discussion.
Q Secretary Christopher has said that it's a matter
of time and -- for months before that happens.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Again, all I can say is that it's
something that the President is reviewing. Right now we're working
with our allies in the U.N on a sanctions resolution, and we'll
continue to review other matters.
Q George, can you tell us anything about the schedule
this week? Any travel?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: They just asked about that. I
don't have anything more beyond tomorrow's visit with Mubarak right
now.
Q Are there consultations, George, with any Jewish
American organizations concerning Jackson-Vanick?
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know the National Conference
of Soviet Jewry has a list of, I believe,
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: -- as you know, the National
Conference of Soviet Jewry has a list of, I believe, 200 Refuseniks.
We'll certainly take a look at that and continue appropriate
discussions.
Thanks.
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9,963 |
> I wonder if Ojeda will sue anyone - because his career may be over.
Not due to the accident -- he just got a (really) bad haircut. Now, if you
meant due to his floating fastball, well...
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1,432 | Just a shot here, but ya never know:
I once bought a (REAL) cheap equalizer / power amp for my car tape player
at one of those motel-room truckload sales, and it sounded great. For a
while, that is. Then one channel quit entirely. I opened it up, and the
amplifier chip for the bad channel had simply melted some of its solder
joints attaching it to the PCB. I soldered them back and it worked fine.
I just had to keep the volume a bit lower than I did before. Probably
lousy heat sinking.
You said "a nice Alpine" which I'm sure is a few orders of mag higher
in quality than the P.O.S. I had. But the point is - look inside before
you scrap it, since you OCCASIONALLY find something you can repair.
Maybe even the same thing I found. | 11 | trimmed_train |
5,920 | Many of you at this point have seen a copy of the
Lunar Resources Data Purchase Act by now. This bill, also known as the Back to
the Moon bill, would authorize the U.S.
government to purchase lunar science data from private
and non-profit vendors, selected on the basis of competitive bidding, with an
aggregate cap on bid awards of $65 million.
If you have a copy of the bill, and can't or don't want to go through
all of the legalese contained in all Federal legislation,don't both - you have
a free resource to evaluate the bill for you. Your local congressional office,
listed in the phone book,is staffed by people who can forward a copy of the
bill to legal experts. Simply ask them to do so, and to consider supporting
the Lunar Resources Data Purchase Act.
If you do get feedback, negative or positive, from your congressional
office, please forward it to: David Anderman
3136 E. Yorba Linda Blvd., Apt G-14, Fullerton, CA 92631,
or via E-Mail to: [email protected].
Another resource is your local chapter of the National Space Society.
Members of the chapter will be happy to work with you to evaluate and support
the Back to the Moon bill. For the address and telephone number of the nearest
chapter to you, please send E-mail, or check the latest issue of Ad Astra, in
a library near you.
Finally, if you have requested, and not received, information about
the Back to the Moon bill, please re-send your request. The database for the
bill was recently corrupted, and some information was lost. The authors of the
bill thank you for your patience.
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9,126 |
Francis got 101 in 89-90, his last full season with Hartford. | 17 | trimmed_train |
11,217 | Hi !
I am interested in the source of FEAL encryption algorithm.
Does someone of you know where I can get the source from, or
where I can find documentation about FEAL.
Thanks in advance
Ciao Hermann | 7 | trimmed_train |
10,050 | :Is erythromycin effective in treating pneumonia?
:
:-fm
Not only is it effective, it is in fact the drug of choice for
uncomplicated cases of community-acquired penumonia.
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9,406 | I'm writing 'xwall', a simple X version of 'wall', and I want it to
put a message up on each of a default list of displays. The problem
is that XOpenDisplay hangs if one of the displays is currently
controlled by xdm (login screen). I've been through the manuals
and FAQ and don't see a simple way to see if a display is 'openable'
ahead of time, or to get XOpenDisplay to fail after a short period
of time. Any hints, suggestions, clues, or pointers to info? Thanks...
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2,978 | I looked for diab in my .newsrc and came up with nuthin. Anyone have
any good sources for where I can read? In particular, I'm interested
in finding out more about intravenous insulin injection for hepatic
vein liver activation. (Whew! Wotta mouthful!)
Anything that smells like a pointer would be helpful: newsgroup,
mailinglist, etc....
Many thanks.
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6,285 |
My GS came with XGT V4s and they are NOT all weather tires. I took
out my right front bumper sliding on packed snow (not ice), before I learned
this fact. I immediately bought XGT H4s which are definately all-weather.
A Carrera 4 I walk by everyday has XGT V4s on it even. The Michelin dealer
where I bought my new tires said the V4s were made out of a different
rubber that gets really hard and slick when the weather gets near feezing.
Said he'd only try to sell me those tires during the winter if we were in
Texas and not Colorado.
Thanks,
Eric
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9,303 |
He also ignores a few other things. While organics would become
significantly more expensive were all the oil to disappear (and thus
some things would no longer be economically feasible), oil is hardly
an irreplaceable resource any more than most other consumables. As
supply decreases, prices rise and alternatives become more
competetive. He also needs to consider that there has been an
estimated 30 years of reserves pretty much as long as anyone has cared
about petroleum; whatever the current usage rate is, we always seem to
have about a 30 year reserve that we know about.
[I'm not sure that last figure is still true -- we tend not to look as
hard when prices are comparatively cheap -- but it was certainly true
during hte 'oil crisis' days of the 70's.]
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden | 10 | trimmed_train |
4,601 | ...let me point out that both GUI-based word-processors and text-based
formatters both have a language; one happens to be mouse- and
action-based, and the other symbol-based.
True, but that's beside the point. This is a fact about an abstract model
of what the GUI users are doing, not about what they actually *are* doing.
This abstract model is only apparent from the perpective of a *programmer*
of the system. (NB: some users may see it, too, but only when they put
aside the work at hand and start thinking like a programmer.)
I'm not saying that the programmer's perspective is evil or stunted. After
all, that's what I do, too! I am saying that UI designers must carefully
distinguish between the user/programmer conceptual models, and they must
ultimately serve the user of the system, not the builder of the system.
I don't recall the actual stats, but something like 1 in 5 people can be
categorized as a "symbol manipulator".
It would be interesting to know more about the meaning and basis for this
claim. At any rate, I don't think this is evidence that 20% of users think
like programmers. Bankers, financial analysts, structural engineers ---
these are all people whose work you could characterize as primarily symbol
manipulation. But what they do is not programming, and programming is not
required to do what they do. | 16 | trimmed_train |
634 |
The existence of repeated earth lives and destiny (karma) does not
mean that everything that happens is predetermined by past deeds.
There is an oriental view of it that tends in that direction, but I
did not subscribe to that view. God may choose one individual over
another as the fit instrument for his plans, but that does not
preclude that the development of that individual into what he is in
this earthly life is not the result of a longer course of development.
I do not, and Rudolf Steiner did not, subscribe to the oriental view
of an inexorable, mechanistic karma determining everything that
befalls one. This is a kind of shriveled caricature of a much greater
law in the context of which the deed of Christ on Golgotha and the
ultimate salvation and freedom of the human being as a working of
Christ can be seen as the master theme and, indeed, a new impulse that
was completely free of karma. Christ incarnated only once in the
flesh, and in that he had no debt of karma or sin. The oriental
concepts of reincarnation and karma, which are even more trivialized
and mechanized in some new age teachings, incorrectly assume Jesus
Christ to have been the reincarnation of a master. avatar, etc.
Their teaching of reincarnation and karma also has no concept the
continuing individuality from one life to the next (e.g. Buddhism).
More important, they have no concept of the resurrection of the body,
the ultimate continuity of the whole human being -- to ultimate
resurrection and judgement on the Last Day.
There is another biblical passage that also has a bearing. It is the
tenth chapter of John, devoted almost entirely to the man born blind.
Clearly here, Jesus tells the disciples that it was not his past karma
or that of his parents that led to his blindness, but rather that a
new impulse is to be revealed through him. But note that he does not
refute the disciples' question. In fact, they ask it as a matter of
course, the question being stated as if it were self evident that only
one of two possibilities existed - it was either the sins of the man
himself, obviously not in this incarnation, or the sins of his
parents. The fact that they even asked about the first possibility at
all indicates an awareness of the idea on their part and the form of
Christ's answer indicates that he did not disagree with it.
There is also Matthew 11:14, where Jesus says straight out about John
the Baptist,
"If you care to accept it, he himself is Elias, who was to come."
This also emphasizes that the Gospels do not have a positive teaching
either way about reincarnation -- or, in fact, about what happens to
the human being at all between death and the Last Day. Even Jesus did
not push this teaching on people who were not ready to embrace it ("If
you care to accept it"). So I took care to point out, not that the
Bible teaches reincarnation but that it does not deny it either, and
that much in both scripture and fundamental Christian doctrine becomes
understandable if reincarnation is understood in the right way. I
pointedly used "repeated earth lives" to distinguish a little from the
oriental doctrines usually associated with the word "reincarnation".
The phrase is Rudolf Steiner's (wiederholte Erdenleben). He noted too
that the idea needed to arise as a new insight in the west, completely
free from eastern tradition. It did in the eighteenth and nineteenth
centuries, the most important expression of it being Lessing's "The
Education of the Human Race".
To return to your original point, Paul's statement about Jacob and
Esau does not contradict the idea of repeated earth lives and karma.
And both of these principles receive their fulfillment in the
incarnation, death, and resurrection, ascension and return of Jesus
Christ, in my view. | 0 | trimmed_train |
3,606 |
Windows Sources Magazine reviewed a number of 17" monitors recently
and they too said that the Nanao T560i was the best monitor to get if
you had the money. But they also said that the Mitsubishi Diamond Pro
17 is the next best choice and that it has superb picture quality.
This monitor can be had for around $1070.
Has anyone actually seen any of these? I am also thinking of buying a
17" monitor and was going to consider the Mitsubishi. If I remember
correctly, I think its viewing area is 16" measured diagonally.
Thanks.
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7,057 | Internal DOS commands (certainly 3.3 and before) do not set the exit
code. This is a royal pain if you want to do anything which checks for
successful deletions etc. The best suggestion is to use 4dos which
does return you exit codes. It also has move command,
Simon.
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Fulcrum Communications Ltd,
Birmingham, Condition "BRAIN_OVERLOAD$" raised at
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2,866 | @EID:B486 85210000
I have a 120 mb hard drive. What should I set the compression ratio at
using DOS'S double disk? Do I have to format erase everything to double
the full 120 mb to 240? Can I just make a mirror of my hard drive? Thanx
4 the help!
Darren Lavallee
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6,202 |
See, we are disagreeing on the definition of moral here. Earlier, you said
that it must be a conscious act. By your definition, no instinctive
behavior pattern could be an act of morality. You are trying to apply
human terms to non-humans. I think that even if someone is not conscious
of an alternative, this does not prevent his behavior from being moral.
I try to show it, but by your definition, it can't be shown.
And, morality can be thought of a large class of princples. It could be
defined in terms of many things--the laws of physics if you wish. However,
it seems silly to talk of a "moral" planet because it obeys the laws of
phyics. It is less silly to talk about animals, as they have at least
some free will. | 8 | trimmed_train |
4,455 |
Never had any problem with mine...
Are you *SURE* the nut/bolt you are trying is really a 1/2" hex? 13mm
is just slightly larger... and a 1/2 wrench won't fit on a GM 13mm
nut (my 91 GMC pickup has several 13mm nuts on it... really annoying, metric
threads too. Seems that most of the body is metric, most of the engine is
SAE).
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4,816 | I posted this several days ago for Dave Butler. He may have missed it - my
Usenet board has changed a little. Just in case he missed it, here it is again.
Dave Butler writes...
From: [email protected] (Dave Butler)
Subject: Re: NEW BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS [Fallaciously] ANSWERED (Judas)
Date: Thu Apr 1 20:52:11 1993
"I can basically restrict this post to showing the type of evidence Mr DeCenso
has presented, and answering his two questions (and a couple of his spurious
insults and false claims)."
MY REPLY...
O.K.
DB...
[By the way Mr DeCenso, you really should have looked in the index of your
Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich Greek lexicon. You would have found that the word in
Acts for "lot" is "kleros," not "CHORION" as stated by Mr Archer, and nowhere
in the very large discussion of kleros in done the to "Theological Dictionary
of the New Testament" by Bromley, is the meaning "burial plot" discussed. It
discusses the forms of "kleros" (eg: kleros, kleroo, etc), and the various
meanings of "kleros" (eg: "plot of land," and "inheritance"), but mentions
nothing about CHORION or "burial plot." (Why does this not surprise me?) Thus
it would seem to be a very good thing you dumped Archer as a reference.]
DB later corrected himself...
_____________________________________________________________________
From: [email protected] (Dave Butler)
Subject: Re: NEW BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS [Fallaciously] ANSWERED (Judas)
Date: Fri Apr 2 02:32:11 1993
I owe the group an apology. It is my habit to check my articles before and
after their submission for errors. In my last article I stated:
I was wrong. I admit that I do not have a handle on Greek grammar, and thus
confused "kleros", the second to last word in Acts 1:17 as being the plot of
land discussed. In actuality it is "chorion", which is the last word Acts
1:18. Unfortunately my Greek dictionary does not discuss "chorion" so I
cannot report as to the nuances of the word.
I don't know if someone else would have caught this, though I am sure that
someone would be able to do so, but I have an aversion to disseminating
mistakes, especially when someone else might use that mistake to prove a point"
_____________________________________________________________________
MY REPLY...
Vary noble of you Dave. I didn't want to have to go to x number of sources to
show you wrong. (Although I am researching CHORION a little).
DB...
"Of course the only other reference Mr DeCenso has given is Bullinger. And
Bullinger uses such ridiculous exegisis that when I accused Mr DeCenso of
actually believing Bullinger, he replied that I misquoted him:
of > my response to see what I REALLY said in my posting of this article.
[Actually Mr DeCenso, you said that there was "benefit" to our argument, in
that it caused to to rediscover Bullinger's exegisis. I did not realize
that you would find such garbage beneficial, unless you were convinced by
it]."
MY REPLY...
Thank you for correcting your restating of my points.
DB...
"and Mr DeCenso also replied:
Thus I apologize for thinking that even Mr DeCenso could find such "drek"
convincing....he should specify which parts of Bullinger he finds convincing
and quit hiding behind a disingenuous mask of "This is what Bullinger
believed, not necessarily what I believe." So which is it Mr DeCenso? Do you
find the exegisis convincing or not?)"
MY REPLY...
One of my purposes in debating these alleged contradictions with you and
others is to diseminate many different views of possible reconciliations
raised by various Bible scholars and students alike. When I present MY VIEWS,
I will clearly distinguish them from now on.
DB...
"Of course without Archer and Bullinger we find that Mr DeCenso has presented
no Greek exegisis at all, and Mr DeCenso has made a big thing about my not
referring back to the actual Greek. Thus we find this demand on his part for
quality Greek exegisis to be a hypocritical requirement."
MY REPLY...
Good point. But in your declaring that these passages are contradictory, you
have produced only superficial reasonings and observations. Nor have you dug
deeper. I'm glad you have begun in this post. I will begin Greek studies on
these passages in more depth than I thought necessary, as well.
DB...
"It would be appropriate to look at what Mr DeCenso has actually USED as
evidence. Now we know what he claims for a standard, as he has stated it
often enough:
But are these actual standards he has used, or simply empty hyperbole. Let's
see, he has used (a), and since he is trying to reconcile it to other
passages, we see that he has also used (b). On the other hand he has
presented no use of:
(d) historical context or
(e) historical content or
(f) other pertinent historical info or
(g) cultural context or
(h) cultural content or
(i) other pertinent cultural info or
(j) grammatical construction or even
(k) Hebrew and Greek word studies [remember, Archer and Bullinger don't count]
Thus we find his vaunted criteria for exegisis is just empty mouthings."
MY REPLY...
Question: Do you find such criteria important? If so, do you plan on starting
to use them to the best of your ability, or will you continue to present
shallow observations (I don't mean this in a bad way).
At this point in our _debates_, I have not found it necessary to present a
total exegetical analysis of these passages, since we seem to keep beating
around the bush and not getting into the core of the verses. I do not believe
it necessary to use many of the above criteria to refute your arguments re:
Judas in Acts and Matthew, but I will do my best from this point on to use
several of the above criteria, since you desire me to. I hope you will also.
It will greatly enhance our study of these passages.
DB...
"The only thing he has actually used, beyond the passage itself, is any other
passage. Thus Mr DeCenso should be honest and note that most of his list is
red herring and his only real criteria seems to be:
MY REPLY...
The reason is simple...you are mistating the passages. You claim that the
PASSAGES contradict one another; I do not see the PASSAGES contradicting one
another.
(1) They may very well be complimentary, as many scholarly sources mention;
(2) Matthew may not be presenting Judas' death, as you claim. But we'll look
at your defense of this later.
Also, the "reward of iniquity" in the Acts PASSAGE may not be the 30 pieces of
silver in Matthew's PASSAGES. (Although you have a valiant attempt later at
stating why you believe it is).
At this beginning stages in our debates, we are laying some Scriptural
groundwork, which will be expanded upon through deeper exegesis.
DB...
"Of course the only reason I can see to so drastically reinterpret a passage
as he has done with Judas' death, is to make it agree with another passage so
that both could be considered correct."
MY REPLY...
One of the reasons I have given a different exegetical view of the passages is
that you seem to think the majority of scholarship is wrong in concluding these
passages are complimentary. However, I see no problem in Tony Rose's
explanation of Judas' death...
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HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE INACCURACY BETWEEN JUDAS HANGING
HIMSELF IN MATTHEW 27:5 AND "FALLING HEADLONG HE BURST OPEN"
=============================================================
This question of the manner in which Judas died is one with which we are
constantly confronted in our travels. Many people point to the apparent
discrepancy in the two accounts as an obvious, irreconcilable error.
Some have gone so far as to say that the idea of an inerrant Bible is
destroyed by these contradictory accounts. However, this is not the case at
all.
Matthew relates that Judas hanged himself, while Peter tells us he fell and
was crushed by the impact. The two statements are indeed different, but do
they necessarily contradict each other?
Matthew does not say that Judas did not fall; neither does Peter say that
Judas did not hang himself. This is not a matter of one person calling
something black and the other person calling it white. Both accounts can be
true and supplementary.
A possible reconstruction would be this: Judas hanged himself on a tree on the
edge of a precipice that overlooked the valley of Hinnom. After he hung there
for some time, the limb of the tree snapped or the rope gave way and Judas
fell down the ledge, mangling his body in the process.
The fall could have been before *or* after death as either would fit this
explanation. This possibility is entirely natural when the terrain of the
valley of Hinnom is examined. From the bottom of the valley, you can see
rocky terraces 25 to 40 feet in height and almost perpendicular.
There are still trees around the ledges and a rocky pavement at the bottom.
Therefore, it is easy to conclude that Judas struck one of the jagged rocks on
this way down, tearing his body open. It is important to remember that we are
not told how long Judas remained hanging from the tree or how advanced
was the decomposition of his body before his fall.
Louis Gaussen relates a story of a man who was determined to kill himself.
This individual placed himself on the sill of a high window and pointed a
pistol at his head. He then pulled the trigger and leaped from the window at
the same time.
On the other hand, a person could say that this man took his life by shooting
himself, while another could rightly contend he committed suicide by jumping
form the tall building. In this case, both are true, as both are true in the
case of Matthew's and Peter's accounts of the death of Judas. It is merely a
situation of different perspectives of the same event.
_____________________________________________________________________
Your only reason for rejecting this is, I believe, your attempt to discredit
inerrancy. You haven't related how this is IMPOSSIBLE or highly unlikely.
Here's what you said in an earlier post...
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DB [quoting Tony Rose]...
"The added text in this version is so heavy that, assuming you are truly so
opposed to such tactics, you should find it not credible. But you seem to
find Tony Rose's eisegesis satisfactory, while clearly rejecting David
Joslin's."
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Here, you discredit Tony's explanation based on what you deem too "heavy" for
the passages. But you haven't addressed why you feel that way. You can say
it's a vain attempt to reconcile the contradiction, but that doesn't tell me it
didn't happen, nor have you shown why you reject that possibility.
Questions: Is Matthew lying or is Luke lying? Or are they both lying? Or
are either or both of them misinformed? Why do you think there is such an
alleged contradiction? I do not think you have ever told us what you believe
in this respect.
DB...
"At present though, Mr DeCenso only asks two questions of me:
Actually I find question (1) to be a rather stupid request, but I will answer
it because he now restricts himself to two points. First I would point out
that hanging is a very efficient manner for ending a life. In fact it is a
bit of a fluke when someone survives hanging (except in fantasy cowboy
movies), and even then it usually referred to as an attempted hanging."
MY REPLY...
I work at an agency that investigates child abuse and neglect. Today, I got a
call re: a child that attempted suicide by hanging himself because his mother
is on crack. He failed in his attempt and is in a child's psych ward at a
local hospital. Hanging attempts are not always successful.
To assume that because most hangings are successful, this one was also is
"begging the question", if I may quote you.
[Last night, listening to _The Bible Answer Man_ broadcast, The Christian
Research Institute's show, one of the scholars on there used several of these
terms that you use. I am not all that familiar with them. The man on the BAM
show teaches Comparative Religion and Logic. It was interesting]
DB...
"This is so prevalent that, so that to say a man hung himself with no other
qualifiers is synonymous with stating that he killed himself."
MY REPLY...
Qualifiers are important at times, as we'll see in an OT passage I'll mention
below.
Does hanging ALWAYS have this outcome? Did Matthew, who is the only source we
have re: Judas hanging himself, state that Judas died as a result? To say it's
synonymous means it has the same meaning as. A boy (age 14) hung himself. But
he lived. This is only one of probably thousands of documented cases we can
discover.
DB...
"Now I am not alone in this thought; in fact, since Mr DeCenso so respects
Christian scholarly (including Greek scholars) opinion, I did some research."
MY REPLY...
Thank you, Dave.
DB...
"Interestingly, not one of the Christian references I read, interpreted the
hanging as being anything but a fatal suicide. ^^^^^^^^^^^
MY REPLY...
[^^^ above, mine]
So it's OK to use Christian sources to back your points? What about Tony's
position. Do you value it or even consider it as a valid possibility?
Also, is it possible that the sources you read may be wrong, or lying, or
deceived in other parts of their books? If so, should we do, as we have done
with Archer, toss them to the side and not value anything they say, including
their "interpretation" of the hanging of Judas? I am sure _you_ would find
some errors and maybe even some deception in those sources.
You also noted they "interpreted" the hanging as meaning he died. Although
that is very possibly true, do you find that in the text itself? Remember,
that's the first criteria we must examine.
DB...
"This included:
"The Biblical Knowledge Commentary" by Woodward and Zuck"
MY REPLY...
Which I own. It's a good source of commentary info. But not inerrant.
DB...
"The Interpreters on Volume Commentary on the Bible" by Laydon
"The one volume Bible Commentary" by J R Dunelow
"Word meanings of the Testament" Ralph Earl
"The Abingdon Bible Commentary" published by Abingdon
"Harpers Bible Commentary" by William Neal
(Actually I could have presented many more as well)
MY REPLY...
I appreciate your doing this research, Dave. Maybe we are getting somewhere
in how we both should approach these alleged contradictions - more in depth
study.
DB...
"In each case, these references specifically describe that the interpretation
of Matt 27:5 as successful, suicide and thus I can only conclude that the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Greek word "apagchw"(ie: hang oneself) is translated as a successful hanging."
MY REPLY...
[^^^ above, mine]
No you can't only conclude this, although, as Tony says, this was a highly
probable outcome. But Matthew does not state death as being a result.
The Greek word is APAGCHO. Matthew 27:5 is it's only occurrence in the New
Testament.
In the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the OT used at the time of Jesus),
it's only used in 2 Samuel 17:23 : "Now when Ahithophel saw that his advice was
not followed, he saddled a donkey, and arose and went home to his house, to his
city. Then he put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died; and he
was buried in his father's tomb." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Notice that not only is it stated that Ahithophel "hanged himself" [Gr. Sept.,
APAGCHO], but it explicitly adds, "and died". Here we have no doubt of the
result.
In Matthew, we are not explicitly told Judas died.
Also, there is nothing in the Greek to suggest success or failure. It simply
means "hang oneself".
DB...
"But Mr DeCenso, you are more than welcome to disagree and show more reputable
^^^^^^^^^
Christian scholars that insist that the hanging was not successful."
MY REPLY...
[^^^above, mine]
"Reputable"? You mean ones that have never erred?
As far as insisting that the hanging was unsuccessful, that can't be done,
even by me. ^^^^^^^^^
As I said in an earlier post...
_____________________________________________________________________
Although I still agree with Tony's exegesis as being the most probable
explanation regarding Judas' death (taking into account several criteria),
I've recently noticed some new things in Matthew.
MAT 27:5-8 Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed,
and went and hanged himself. But the chief priests took the silver pieces and
said, "It is not lawful to put them into the treasury, because they are the
price of blood." And they consulted together and bought with them the potter's
field, to bury strangers in. Therefore that field has been called the Field of
Blood to this day.
First of all, notice that the text does not say that Judas died as a result of
hanging. All it says is that he "went and hanged himself." Luke however, in
Acts, tells us that "and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all
his entrails gushed out." This is a pretty clear indication (along with the
other details given in Acts - Peter's speech, the need to pick a new apostle,
etc.) that at least after Judas' fall, he was dead. So the whole concept that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Matthew and Luke both recount Judas' death is highly probable, but not clear
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
cut.
^^^
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I also wrote...
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MY REPLY...
Here we have a stickler, Dave, that I have to say I just recently noticed.
Let's look at the passage in Matthew:
MAT 27:4 saying, "I have sinned by betraying innocent blood." And they said,
"What is that to us? You see to it!"
MAT 27:5 Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed,
and went and hanged himself.
MAT 27:6 But the chief priests took the silver pieces and said, "It is not
lawful to put them into the treasury, because they are the price of blood."
MAT 27:7 And they consulted together and bought with them the potter's field,
to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Therefore that field has been called the Field of Blood to this day.
Notice verse 5..."Then he...went and hanged himself."
Matthew does not say Judas died, does it? Should we assume he died as a
result of the hanging? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What does Acts say?
ACT 1:18 (Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and
falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.
ACT 1:20 "For it is written in the book of Psalms: 'Let his dwelling place be
desolate, And let no one live in it'; and, 'Let another take his office.'
Here we may have a graphic explanation of Judas' death....So, my line of
reasoning to dispel your contradiction myth re:the "two" accounts of Judas'
death is this...Matthew doesn't necessarily explain how Judas died; he does
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
say Judas "hanged himself", but he didn't specifically say Judas died in the
hanging incident. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
However, Acts seems to show us his graphic demise. Therefore, there is no
contradiction between Matthew and Acts re: Judas' `death'.
.......
MY REPLY...
...we do know from Matthew that he did hang himself and Acts probably records
his death. Although it's possible and plausible that he fell from the hanging
and hit some rocks, thereby bursting open, I can no longer assume that to be
the case. Therefore, no contradiction. Matthew did not say Judas died as a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
result of the hanging, did he? Most scholars believe he probably did, but...?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I quoted all that to show that I highly regard the scholars' explanations, but
in looking at the texts initially, we can't assume Judas died. It is, however,
highly probable. ^^^^^^
DB...
"By the way, while all agree that Judas died from the hanging, the books had
different ways of dealing with the contradiction we are discussing. One
simply ignored it entirely and simply referred back to Matthew's version as
the correct version in both Matt and Acts. "The Biblical Knowledge Commentary"
suggested the hypotheses that Judas hung and then when he rotted, his belly
exploded (which doesn't explain his headlong fall), or that his branch or rope
broke, and he fell to his death and his gut gushed out (which doesn't explain
how a hanging man, would fall headlong rather than feet first)."
MY REPLY...
The outcome of any fall is dependent upon many factors...how high the person
was suspended before the fall, any obstructions such as tree branches that may
have deviated the fall, how steep an incline of rocky surfaces the victim fell
upon, thus possibly rolling or bouncing of several rocks, etc. In a
superficial examination of the Acts passage and the Matthew passage, we are not
given a lot of info on the geographical specifics, but Tony in the above quoted
post gave us some...
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A possible reconstruction would be this: Judas hanged himself on a tree on the
edge of a precipice that overlooked the valley of Hinnom. After he hung there
for some time, the limb of the tree snapped or the rope gave way and Judas
fell down the ledge, mangling his body in the process.
The fall could have been before *or* after death as either would fit this
explanation. This possibility is entirely natural when the terrain of the
valley of Hinnom is examined. From the bottom of the valley, you can see
rocky terraces 25 to 40 feet in height and almost perpendicular.
There are still trees around the ledges and a rocky pavement at the bottom.
Therefore, it is easy to conclude that Judas struck one of the jagged rocks on
this way down, tearing his body open.
_____________________________________________________________________
DB...
Now truthfully, I do not see what is comforting about Matthew confusing the
source of the Potter's field prophesy, but on the other hand the author is
correct: Matthew does make that confusion. Of course a Biblical inerrantist
who claim that every word of the Bible is guaranteed true by God, will have to
thereby add one more contradiction to the death of Judas (ie: where the
prophesy of the Potter's field came from)."
MY REPLY...
Please, when we are done with this study on his death, remind me to discuss
this with you.
DB...
As to your second question Mr DeCenso, you ask how we could be sure that the
money with which Judas purchased the land, was indeed for the betrayal, rather
than some other source. I would point out that in Acts, where it specifically
mention "the reward of iniquity" [Acts 1:18], it also specifically mentions
what act of iniquity they were talking about (ie: Acts 1:16 "...concerning
Judas who was guide to those who arrested Jesus."). Now I would point out
that when the Bible describes an act of "iniquity," and then immediately
discusses "*the* reward of iniquity," it would be rather inane to suggest that
it was an action of iniquity other than the one discussed."
MY REPLY...
Dave, we are getting somewhere, aren't we!
ACT 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples
(altogether the number of names was about a hundred and twenty), and said,
ACT 1:16 "Men and brethren, this Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy
Spirit spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide
to those who arrested Jesus;
ACT 1:17 "for he was numbered with us and obtained a part in this ministry."
ACT 1:18 (Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and
falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it became known to all those dwelling in Jerusalem; so that field
is called in their own language, Akel Dama, that is, Field of Blood.)
ACT 1:20 "For it is written in the book of Psalms: 'Let his dwelling place be
desolate, And let no one live in it'; and, 'Let another take his office.'
Notice that in verse 16, the word "iniquity" is not used. Rather, it states
that Judas "became a guide to those who arrested Jesus".
But the writer DID NOT stop there...vs. 17, "for he was numbered with us and
obtained a part in this ministry." What part did Judas play in their ministry?
^^^^^^
JOH 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor, but because he was a
thief, and had the money box; and he used to take what was put in it.
JOH 13:29 For some thought, because Judas had the money box, that Jesus had
said to him, "Buy those things we need for the feast," or that he should give
something to the poor.
So, now we know what part Judas played - he was a treasurer, per se.
Right after Peter stated that Judas played a part in this ministry (treasurer,
according to John), THEN Luke adds the parenthetical explanation of "wages of
iniquity" - money that should have been put into the ministry, but was stolen
by Judas to purchase a field. I believe this is a better exegetical
explanation of what the "wages of iniquity" are. What do you think, Dave?
DB...
"Now since I have given you clear answers (and even references), perhaps you
could unequivocally state what type of inerrantist you are (instead of asking
me what type I think you are, as you did to Mr Joslin)."
MY REPLY...
I will gladly admit that I am a Complete Inerrantist, although I do not have
that big a problem with the Limited Inerrancy view.
Frank | 15 | trimmed_train |
6,985 | As the Sharks' season came to a close tonight, I will start a series of posts,
trying to revisit the players, the trades, the moves, etc., that went through
for the Sharks for the past season. If you are uninterested, since I will
have the words SHARKS REVIEW in the subject heading in these postings, you can
kill them.
I will first try to evaluate how the players did. These ratings, of course,
are subject to my own biases, but I hope that I can try to be as objective as
possible. I will evalute players who finished the season with the Sharks
and/or did not play for another NHL team this season.
Thus, then, let's go to the goaltenders...
#1 BRIAN HAYWARD Season: 11th
Acquired: '91-92 from Minnesota in dispersal draft
Grade: P (D)
It is sad that his career has to come to this dim an end, a career that
featured sharing three Jennings Trophies (with Patrick Roy, in '87, '88, and
'89). It would indeed be unfair for me to do anything but give him a passing
grade (and skip the letter grading), but he had simply been awful on ice this
year, save for a bright spot or two, and even if he had been healthy, he would
not be any more than the 3rd-string goalie.
But Hayward was a classy individual, who also figured in on the Sharks' first
ever victory, the 3rd game of the season last year against the Calgary Flames.
As he retires, the fans will remember what a good guy he was.
#30 JEFF HACKETT Season: 3rd
Acquired: '91-92, from N. Y. Islanders in expansion draft
Grade: C
Hackett, after (deservedly) winning the team MVP honors last season, simply
wasted the year. Other than a few good spots (57 saves against Los Angeles,
almost-shutout against Tampa Bay, etc.), Hackett, finishing with 85.6% save
percentage and a 5.28 GAA, watched his status go from the team's #1 goalie to
bench decoration at the end of the season. He was expected, early, to carry
the team along; instead, he apparently became frustrated, but the an early
injury that forced him to miss 12 games may have been a contributing factor,
but upon return, he simply wasn't up to the task. He may not return next
year.
#31 WADE FLAHERTY Season: 1st (still eligible as rookie)
Acquired: '91-92, signed as undrafted free agent
Grade: I (A-)
It is pretty hard to evaluate a goaltender on just one game alone, thus the
incomplete grade, but yet in the one start that he did get (against the Calgary
Flames), Flaherty was nothing but sharp for at least two periods. He started
the season poorly in Kansas City, but finished strong, prompting the Blades'
owner Ron Parker to comment that he should be a candidate for the IHL MVP
honors. The upcoming IHL playoffs would be a major challenge for him as he
tries to make it into the NHL; last year, he was a capable backup for Arturs
Irbe in the throughout the season and in the Turner Cup playoffs, picking up
all-star honors along with Irbe; now it's time for him to show that he can
share the job with Irbe next year, because with prospects Dan Ryder, Trevor
Robins, and Scott Cashman coming along, if he doesn't make it next year, he
may not ever.
#32 ARTURS IRBE Season: 1st
Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft
Grade: B+
I may yet be overly critical of Irbe in a year that he clearly established that
he's a bona fide NHL goaltender, perhaps a bona fide #1 goaltender. He has
provided most of the little highlight footage that the Sharks team had, getting
the team's first ever shut-out against the Los Angeles Kings on December 26.
He has been fearless in and out of the net, aggressively playing the puck and
making passes, reminding people of a young Ron Hextall (except, of course, the
goonism). Yet he still needs to develop more consistency, which is hard to do
with such a bad defense in front of him, but if the Sharks are to challenge for
a playoff spot next season, Irbe's the key, as he demonstrated in being named
as a star of the game 13 times in 32 starts. | 17 | trimmed_train |
9,878 | I need to bring on my VW Corrado for body work (I got hit). I was
wondering if anyone has heard of any of these South Bay body shops:
Akins Collision Center of Santa Clara - on Reed St
Auto West Collision - in San Jose
Los Gatos Acura
Royal Auto Body - in Sunnyvale
Thanks! | 4 | trimmed_train |
1,424 |
Hopefully, a miracle (o.k. not quite a miracle, but close!) will occur and
Pittsburgh will be elminated prior to the finals. If they make it again,
they will probably keep the Cup. If they don't, it's the Hawks' turn!
GO BLACKHAWKS!!
CONGRATS TO JEREMY ROENICK FOR BEING ONLY THE 2ND HAWKS PLAYER TO POST
BACK TO BACK 50 GOAL SEASONS!! | 17 | trimmed_train |
9,950 | [This belongs in comp.windows.x.i386unix - I've redirected followups]
I know for a fact that the EISA version of the Orchid ProDesigner IIS
works. However, an EISA SVGA card is likely a waste of money.
When XFree86 2.0 comes out, with support for accelerated chipsets, ISA,
EISA, and VLB will all be supported.
The more important question is "what chipsets are supported?". The bus
is basically irrelevent as a compatibility issue.
--
David Wexelblat <[email protected]> (908) 957-5871 Fax: (908) 957-5627
AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ 07748
XFree86 requests should be addressed to <[email protected]> | 16 | trimmed_train |
1,139 | ... | 16 | trimmed_train |
4,722 | : Seems to me Koresh is yet another messenger that got killed
: for the message he carried. (Which says nothing about the
: character of the messenger.) I reckon we'll have to find out
: the rest the hard way.
: | 15 | trimmed_train |
8,381 |
I doubt Henderson would clear waivers. And if he did, he would
instantly be signed for the major league minimum, with Oakland picking
up the remaining $3 million tab.
Some GMs value on-field performance too... | 2 | trimmed_train |
1,404 | Someone writing anonymously asks:
I *did* become a Christian without having been indoctrinated by my parents, and
having studied Buddhism fairly carefully and other religions to a lesser
degree. I made a decision to accept the truth-claims of Christianity after
having given it a lot of thought. (I have to point out that the process was not
purely a cold, rational one: there was a powerful experiential element as well.
Also, my Calvinist should rest assured that I don't lay any of the
responsibility for the outcome [my conversion] on anyone but God.)
It took me years and years for this all to happen, because I had many of the
objections that this poster puts forward. I grew up in the shadow of [generic
authoritarian conservative denomination], and I *knew* that that wasn't a way
of life that I could adopt. But I gradually learned not to tar all of
Christianity with the same brush, and realized quite suddenly one cold winter
night that I accepted what I had heretofore rejected. I am quite certain that
I was not "brain-washed". | 0 | trimmed_train |
4,801 | IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CAERE TYPIST PLUS GRAPHICS
HAND SCANNER, PLEASE READ ON AND SAVE MY LIFE.........
My problem is that my Caere Typist Plus Graphics Hand Scanner will not
connect to my PowerBook 160.
The cable from the scanner will not fit the SCSI port of the computer.
I managed to gaet a cabled assembled that adapted the cord to the
computer. However, this placed the computer into SCSI mode, that is it
acted as an external hard disk whenever i switched the computer on.
I've asked an engineer in London to assemble a new Cable for me. But
he's taken 14 weeks and has yet to find the solution, out of sheer
laziness. And I know that a cable exists to solve the problem.
If you know the solution. Please let me know what cable I need and how I
can get hold of one.
My E-Mail address is :
[email protected]
I will be truely grateful for all your help.
Thanking you in advance, | 14 | trimmed_train |
4,621 | Does anyone know of a site where I could ftp some RenderMan shaders?
Or of a newsgroup which has discussion or information about RenderMan? I'm
new to the RenderMan (Mac) family, and I'd like to get as much info I can
lay my hands on. Thanks!
Andy Bates.
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Andy Bates. | 1 | trimmed_train |
6,530 | Lake State/Maine in finals...WHO WON? Please post.
| 17 | trimmed_train |
9,755 |
They sure make it sound like that.
Even a simpleton knows a baseball bat is considered a deadly weapon.
If one cannot run away (e.g. old, infirm, even middle-aged if the
assailant is younger), a handgun is the most effective means of
defense. You won't even have to fire a shot 98% of the time.
Any real streetfighter (and there are LOTS of them), with or without a
knife, will kick the living sh** out of most people "trained in
unarmed self defense". For the majority of people, a gun is the most
effective form of self defense. | 9 | trimmed_train |
799 |
I don't care who told you this it is not generally true. I see EVERY single
line item on a contract and I have to sign it. There is no such thing as
wrap at this university. I also asked around here. Ther is no wrap at
Marquette, University of Wisconsin Madison, Utah State, Weber State or
Embry Riddle U. I am not saying that it doees not happen but in every instance
that I have been able to track down it does not. Also the president of our
University who was Provost at University of West Virgina said that it did
not happen there either and that this figure must be included in the overhead
to be a legitimate charge.
I did they never heard of it but suggest that, like our president did, that
any percentage number like this is included in the overhead.
No Allen you did not. You merely repeated allegations made by an Employee
of the Overhead capital of NASA. Nothing that Reston does could not be dont
better or cheaper at the Other NASA centers where the work is going on.
Kinda funny isn't it that someone who talks about a problem like this is
at a place where everything is overhead.
Why did the Space News artice point out that it was the congressionally
demanded change that caused the problems? Methinks that you are being
selective with the facts again.
If it takes four flights a year to resupply the station and you have a cost
of 500 million a flight then you pay 2 billion a year. You stated that your
"friend" at Reston said that with the current station they could resupply it
for a billion a year "if the wrap were gone". This merely points out a
blatent contridiction in your numbers that understandably you fail to see.
Dennis, University of Alabama in Huntsville. | 10 | trimmed_train |
2,643 |
Brent, the Feds turned off the BD's electricity a couple of weeks ago...
Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to the radio, TV, or newspapers,
though.
-- | 9 | trimmed_train |
1,980 | Contents:Problems with table widgets in R5
The following part of a program (an user interface for a simulation
system) did work in R4, but refused to in R5. Of cause, the R4-version
did not know about the xpTableWidgetClass (we used tableWidgetClass instead - caught from the net in times of R3) and XpTableChildPosition (formerly XtTblPosition).
Since compiling with R5, the program causes a zero width or height error
(on sparc-stations). The trouble-shooter is the (re)computation of the
model_init_table - table widget: though its childs (label and asciiText
widgets) exist, XtQueryGeometry returns a prefered width and height of zero.
Thus the following asignment cannot perform anything else but set the width and height of the newly created widget to zero. No wonder XtPopup or XtManage- Child create zero width or height errors (dependent on whether width and height of the shell widget are set in the resource file or not).
Question: Does anyone know, why XtQueryGeometry returns so low prefered
values when working on table widgets or perhaps what
to do about?
I'll be happy, if someone is able to help me.
Germans are requested to answer in german.
Siegfried Kaiser
email: [email protected]
The part of interest:
/* Graphischer Neuaufbau des Model-Init-Formulars */
/* Storing the old width and height of the viewport- */
/* widget, which is the parent of the troubling table */
/* widget, before the viewport widget is destroyed */
/* The destroying of widgets before resizing them is a */
/* relict from R3-age */
if (model_init_popped_up)
XtUnmapWidget(model_init_form_view);
XtDestroyWidget(model_init_form_view);
/* Creating the subtree within the shell, of which the */
/* root is the viewport widget */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNfromVert,model_init_title); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNfromHoriz,model_init_button_view); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNallowVert,True); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNforceBars,True); n++;
model_init_form_view = XtCreateWidget("form_view",viewportWidgetClass,
model_init_form,args,n);
n = 0;
model_init_table = XtCreateWidget("table",xpTableWidgetClass,
model_init_form_view,args,n);
/* create_form_widget does create and position table */
/* widget's childs. To position them it uses XpTable- */
/* ChildPosition in R5 and XtTblPosition in R4 */
create_form_widget(ptr_model_init_obj,model_init_table);
/* */
/* The crucial function call: */
/* intended to return the maximum height possible: if */
/* there isn't sufficient space to show the whole table */
/* widget, then the viewport shall grow as large as */
/* possible, but not beyond the border of screen. */
/* If there is enough space, the window is intended to */
/* shrienk to the smallest possible height. */
/* */
XtQueryGeometry(model_init_table,NULL,&pref);
/* According to the algorithms idea, the new value of */
/* viewport widget's height is selected. Unfortunately */
/* pref.height = 0 leads to new_height = 0. */
if (form_view_height > pref.height) new_height = pref.height;
else new_height = form_view_height;
/* Setting the new values to viewport widgets ancestors */
w = XtNameToWidget(model_init_form,"form_view");
XtResizeWidget(w,width,new_height,pref.border_width);
XtResizeWidget(model_init_form_view,width,new_height,
pref.border_width);
if (model_init_popped_up)
{
/* In case the shell, which contains model_init_form_- */
/* view and model_init_table, allready exists, is has */
/* to be resized, too. */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNwidth,&shell_width); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNheight,&shell_height); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNborderWidth,&shell_bw); n++;
XtGetValues(model_init_shell,args,n);
XtResizeWidget(model_init_shell,shell_width,
shell_height - height + new_height,shell_bw);
}; /* end of if */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNwidth,&width); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNborderWidth,&bw); n++;
XtGetValues(model_init_button_view,args,n);
XtResizeWidget(model_init_button_view,width,new_height,bw);
XtResizeWidget(vert_bar,sbar_width,1,sbar_bw);
resize_inits();
/* If there is the shell's height set within the */
/* resource file, the program terminates within the */
/* first XtManageChild on its second pass through the */
/* observed function. The first pass succeeds. */
XtManageChild(model_init_form_view);
XtManageChild(model_init_table);
if (!model_init_popped_up)
{
/* In case the shell isn't popped up it has to be done. */
/* If there is no value set to the shell's height within*/
/* the resource file, the program terminates here. */
XtPopup(model_init_shell,XtGrabNone);
model_init_pop_flag = True;
set_model_init_attributes();
}; /* end of if */
get_actual_init(&ptr_actual);
load_form(ptr_actual);
/* */
/* If someone suspects the creation of table widget's contents */
/* causes all the trouble, there are the sources of create_form */
/* */
create_form_widget(ptr,table)
t_obj *ptr;
Widget table;
/* ptr is a linear list containing attributes and para- */
/* meters of the model and additionally the correspon- */
/* ding widgets */
{
Arg args[10];
int n,
row,
col;
t_obj *ptr_obj;
t_ident *ptr_ident;
/* Initialization of the local variables */
ptr_obj = ptr;
col = 0;
row = 0;
/* Schleife ueber die Objekte bzw. das Pseudo-Objekt (fuer die Parameter) */
/* loop through the list of objects and pseudo-objects: */
/* every object occuring in the model has zero or more */
/* attributes and some parameters, which can be shared */
/* by several objects. */
/* Because of locality the attributes of one object are */
/* listed in a second linear list (of type t_ident), */
/* whereas the parameters, which can belong to any ob- */
/* ject are put together in a pseudo-object */
/* Thus the program loops through the list of objects */
/* and pseudo-objects and for each object through the */
/* list of its attributes resp. parameters. */
while (ptr_obj != (t_obj*)NULL)
{
/* Each object and pseudo-object is represented in a */
/* label widget */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNlabel,ptr_obj->name); n++;
ptr_obj->label_w = XtCreateManagedWidget("object",labelWidgetClass,
table,args,n);
XpTableChildPosition(ptr_obj->label_w,col,row);
col++;
row++;
ptr_ident = ptr_obj->ident;
/* Schleife ueber die Objekt-Attribute bzw. Parameter */
while (ptr_ident != (t_ident*)NULL)
{
/* Each attribute and parameter is represented in a */
/* label and has a corresponding asciiText widget, in */
/* which it is to be initialized. */
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNlabel,ptr_ident->name); n++;
ptr_ident->label_w = XtCreateManagedWidget("ident",labelWidgetClass,
table,args,n);
XpTableChildPosition(ptr_ident->label_w,col,row);
col++;
n = 0;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNlength,ROW_LENGTH); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNstring,ptr_ident->text); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNeditType,XawtextEdit); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNwrap,XawtextWrapWord); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNresize,XawtextResizeHeight); n++;
XtSetArg(args[n],XtNuseStringInPlace,True); n++;
ptr_ident->text_w = XtCreateManagedWidget("text",
asciiTextWidgetClass,
table,args,n);
XpTableChildPosition(ptr_ident->text_w,col,row);
col--;
row++;
get_next_ident(&ptr_ident);
}; /* end of while */
col--;
get_next_obj(&ptr_obj);
}; /* end of while */
} /* end of create_form_widget */
| 16 | trimmed_train |
1,083 | I have heard many things about the ATI Ultra Pro card. Some have
been positive but most are negative. Could people please confirm
these? (I am interested in the EISA version in particular).
1) The card does not work in a system with 32M RAM.
2) The card works in a 32M system with some switches
set but it is much slower.
3) The card is _interlaced_ in its 24bit (true-colour) modes.
4) The latest build 59 drivers still do not work in many
cases.
5) This card is the fastest full colour card for the money.
6) This card is the greatest thing since sliced bread. ;-)
Thanks for your feedback. I will summarize.
Al
| 18 | trimmed_train |
9,026 | : The message from the NIST about the clipper chip comes from the
: following address:
:
: [email protected] (Clipper Chip Announcement)
:
: Just who is that, I asked myself, or rather, I asked the computer.
:
: % telnet csrc.ncsl.nist.gov 25
...list of name elided for brevity......
:
: Well, isn't that interesting. Dorothy Denning, Mitch Kapor, Marc
: Rotenberg, Ron Rivest, Jim Bidzos, and others. The Government, RSA,
: TIS, CPSR, and the EFF are all represented. I don't suppose anybody
: within any of these organizations would care to comment? Or is this
: just the White House's idea of a cruel joke on these peoples' inboxes?
I know that at least one person on that list says the first he heard
of Clipper was in the Friday morning newspaper! And another has
already fired off a letter of protest to NIST.
My point? I suspect this list, interesting as it is for various
reasons, does not represent the cabal that put this proposal together.
Some of them, yes. Others, no.
This may be nothing more than a mailing list of people who get
crypto-related announcements from NSA, er, I mean "NIST."
-Tim May | 7 | trimmed_train |
5,512 | boards injuring his shoulder and they blotted out the injury report.
The Wings player was Yves Racine, and he returned later in that same period. | 17 | trimmed_train |
1,717 | Hello,
way back in the mists of time, I had a set of patches written
by Richard Caley (I believe to the standars distribution, patch level
6) which added regular expressions in the .tvtwmrc file, multiple icon
regions, squeezable icons, and f.deleteordestroy function. I still
have the patches, however, I can no longer find the sources to which
they applied ;-).
I'd appreciate if some kind soul could send me a pointer to
where I could find the sources. Has anyone updated the patches for R5?
(Richard? are you out there? pretty please?)
Thanks in advance. | 16 | trimmed_train |
4,007 |
Huh? Did this guy just invent wreck.motorcycles?
Curious minds want to know.
| 12 | trimmed_train |
9,651 |
...quickly followed by...
This is the standard method for claiming non-combatant status, even
for the commanders of combat.
"Innocent civilians"??? Like the ones who set up the booby traps or
engaged in shoot-outs with soldiers or attack them with grenades or
axes?
And the rest of the world is getting used to Arab tactics of claiming
innocence for even the most guilty of the vile murderers among them.
Keep it up long enough and it will backfire but good.
| 6 | trimmed_train |
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