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I've gotten migraines after exercise, though for me it seems to be related
to exercising without having eaten recently. | 19 | trimmed_train |
7,766 |
In my case I am alive thanks to a gun, that is provable..
even in your twisted logic.
No... Wrong again brain trust..
Huh? What planet are you from?
Wrong... Not as long as freedom remains ..
PS: Get a Dictionary..
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10,924 | :P>My atheism is incidental, and the question of "God" is trivial.
:P
:P>But........
:P
:P>It matters a great deal to me when idiots try to force their belief on me,
:P>when they try to enforce their creation myths to be taught as scientific
:P>fact in school, when they tell me I can have no morals because morals are
:P>from "God", when a successful presidential candidate says that an atheist
:P>shouldn't be considered a citizen and couldn't be patriotic because "after
:P>all this is one nation under God", when the fundies try to take over the
:P>party that may well provide the next President of The United States of
:P>America so that they can force their beliefs on the rest of the country,
:P>et cetera..........
:P
:P>That's why I subscribe to alt.atheism.
:P
:P>And in the middle of this, people who aren't mind readers pop up on
:P>alt.atheism to tell me what I do or don't believe, or to concoct some
:P>straw-man reason why I don't share their particular belief.
:P
:P>You think I should just accept this?
:P
:P>This isn't particularly a dig at fundamentalist christians. I have been
:P>told on alt.atheism that I reject Allah because I am too proud to embrace
:P>islam, and that I reject Krishna because my eyes are closed. But most of
:P>the religious nuts who post on alt.atheism are some kind of militant
:P>christian who can't accept that others don't share their beliefs. This
:P>kind of stuff should be kept on talk.religion.misc, where it belongs.
:P
:P>ATHEISM ISN'T A BELIEF, IT'S THE ABSENCE OF BELIEF IN ANY GODS.
:P> -------
:P
:P>Do you have a problem with this?
:P
:P>>
:P>>Bill
:PFirst, I would like to say that atheism is in fact a belief. It is a beilief
:Pbecause a belief in something you hold to with ador and faith. An atheist says there are no gods. This cannot be proven. therefore you are excepting this on
:Pfaith alone. That is a belief. Secondly, you complain so much about how the
:Pfundamental christians are trying to force their beliefs on you, but you don't
:Pmention anything about how the atheists, such as; Madamme Murry O'hare(founder
:Pof the Atheists Association in Austin Texas), and Robert Sherman(from the Chicago area) have been trying to force their beliefs on everyone by trying to get rid of God from our society by banning religious paintings from parks during Chistmas, forcing cities to change their town seals if there is any mention of God in it (like Sherman has done), or trying to get the slogan "In God We Trust" off of the American currency? You also talk about creation "myths" as if they are in fact myths and tha
:P
:P
:P
:Phave concrete evidece of this. You probably
:Pdon't and that just enforces my point that your atheism is just as much belief as my christianity. If this is not so please do show me why it isn't.
:PMark Covalt
The only real problem I have with the argument of christianity is that they seem to ignore their origin that being Asiatic in origin. As soon as christians become the
good non ego-centric Buddhists they are supposed to be, then I might listen. | 8 | trimmed_train |
3,512 | There are many people want to buy my Kodak autofocus carousel projectors
but I don't have lenses or remote to sell. They prefer to buy a projector
with all accessaries. So I have to post another news asking for lenses
to fit those Kodak slide projectors:
I am willing to give away Singer Caramate II or Singer Caramete SP (
w/ built-in unremovable lens, built-in casette player, speaker, new 500 HR
bulb) try to trade for Kodak projector lenses.
Each projector (viewer) will equal trade for 1 or 2 Kodak projector lenses
depend on the focal length. I will pay for the shipping for Singer
projector (viewer).
Since I don't need those Singer projectors, if you have some 35mm SLR system
you don't need, I am willing to do the trade as well. | 5 | trimmed_train |
1,206 | Complete standalone system (no computer required) for burning
sound files into EPROMs - consists of :
Apollo Eprom programmer (designed specifically for this job - wont
do anything else)
Microphone
Logical Devices Eprom eraser (to wipe the mistakes)
Brand New - $230 + freight
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3,467 |
Reading this definition, I wonder: when should you recognize something
as being a "mistake"? It seems to me, that proponents of pseudo-sciences
might have their own ideas of what constitutes a "mistake" and which
discoveries of such previous mistakes they accept.
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6,462 |
Well, if you put things into historical perspective, the Turks
moved into an area, which was inhabited by Greeks. This is how the history
between the two nations started some centuries ago. Since then, it has been
a continuous battle between the two nations. From my perspective I can't see
why I should say that Greeks have been responsible for what has happened
between the two nations. Of course, it would not be reasonable to argue that
the hostility should drag till we kick the Turks out of this area. This isn't
going to happen, so the best would be to improve the relations between the two
countries. A golden oportunity exists with Cyprus. If things can't work
there, there isn't any possible way that could work between our nations.
I always avoid to discuss such things. I consider it a waist of my time.
Besides, as I said, I do not want to open a new flame.
I thought it was a smart move to receive more money from Greek tourists.
I bet that this week there should be about 200,000 tourists from Greece
in Turkey. Each one will leave at least $1,000 so go and figure what this
means to your economy. If you had kept the visa requirement, how many
Greeks would bother to visit Turkey?
Come on. Do not extrapolate from your limited personal experience. You err
if you think you'd get a reasonable conclusion.
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6,397 |
On second thought, maybe he didn't invent wreck.moto -
he's trying a round about way to figure out the DoD theme song.
One FAQ, coming right up!
Charlie Smith, DoD #0709, doh #0000000004, 1KSPT=22.85 | 12 | trimmed_train |
5,025 | LISTOWNER: I have sent this to Mr Anderson privately. Post it only
if you think it of general interest.
Here is a copy of something I wrote for another list. You may
find it relevant.
A listmember asks:
> What makes common-law marriages wrong?
A common-law marriage is not necessarily wrong in itself. There is
nothing in the Bible (Old or New Testament) about getting married by
a preacher, or by a priest (Jewish or Christian). And in fact Jewish
priests have never had any connection with weddings.
There is a common notion that the marriage is performed by the
clergyman. In fact, the traditional Christian view (at least in the
West) is that the bride and groom are the ministers of the marriage,
and that the clergyman is there only as a witness.
HOWEVER!
The essential ingredient of a marriage is mutual commitment. Two
persons are considered to be married if and only if they have bound
themselves by mutual promises to live together as husband and wife,
forsaking all others, till death do them part.
The reason why those who have reason to be concerned about who
is married to whom have always insisted on some kind of public
ceremony is in order that society, and the couple themselves, may be
clear about whether a commitment has been made.
Suppose that we do away with the public ceremony, the standard vows,
etc. Instead, we have a man and a woman settling down to live
together.
After a year or so, the man says to the woman: Hey, honey, it
was great while it lasted, but I think it's time to move on.
younger.
ocean, as eternal as the stars. As long as I live, I am yours,
utterly and completely. When I lie on my deathbed, my last feeble
breath will utter your name. My..."
man is in a romantic mood, he is bound to say all kinds of silly
things like that. You mustn't take them literally.
And that is why you have an insistence on a formal ceremony that is
a matter of public record.
The Church insists on it, because it is her duty (among other
things) to give moral advice, and you cannot give a man moral advice
about his relations with a woman if you have no idea who is married
to whom, if anybody, and vice versa.
The State insists on it, since the state has a concern with
property rights, with child care and support, and therefore needs to
know who has made what commitments to whom.
Prospective fathers-in-law insist on it, because they don't
want their daughters seduced and abandoned.
Prospective spouses insist on it, because they want to make
sure they know whether what they are hearing is a real commitment,
or just "poetry."
And persons making vows themselves insist on making them
formally and publicly, in order that they may be clear in their own
minds about what it is that they are doing, and may know themselves
that this is not just rhetoric. This is the real thing.
Hence the insistence on a formal public explicit avowal of the
marriage commitment. The Church goes further and insists that, when
Christians marry, a clergyman shall be present at the wedding and
record the vows on behalf of the Church, not because it is
impossible to have a valid wedding without a clergyman, but in order
to make sure that the couple understand what the Christian teaching
about marriage is, and that they are in fact promising to be married
in a Christian sense. The Church also prefers a standard marriage
vow, and is wary of letting couples Write their own vows, for much
the same reason that lawyers prefer standard terminology when they
draw up a will or a contract. Certain language has been repeatedly
used in wills, and one can be sure how the courts will interpret it.
Try to say the same thing in your own words, and you may find that
the probate judge's interpretation of them is not at all what you
intended. Similarly, the Church prefers to avoid endless debates
about whether "You are my main squeeze" and "I am here for the long
haul" do in fact cover the same territory as "forsaking all others"
and "till death do us part."
This topic has come up on the list before. (Is there any topic
that hasn't?) One listmember was asking, "If a couple love each
other and are living together, isn't that marriage in the eyes of
God?" Eventually someone asked, "In that case, what is their status
if they break up? Is that the moral equivalent of getting a divorce?
Are they in a relationship that God forbids either of them to walk
of that!" In fact, there are reasonable grounds for suspecting that
someone who says, "We don't need a piece of paper or a ceremony in
front of a judge or a preacher in order to show that we love each
other," is trying to have it both ways -- to have the advantages of
marriage plus the option of changing his mind with a minimum of
bother.
At this point someone may say, "None of this applies to me and my
mate. We are quite clear on the fact that we have assumed a lifelong
commitment, 'for better or worse, forsaking all others, till death
us do part.' So in our case, no ceremony is needed."
To this my reply would be: The reason for requiring a driver's
license is to keep dangerous drivers off the road. What is wrong in
itself is not the existence of unlicensed drivers, but the existence
of dangerous drivers. However, testing and licensing drivers is an
obvious and reasonable means of pursuing the goal of reducing the
number of dangerous drivers on the road. Therefore the State rightly
makes and enforces such laws, and you the citizen have a positive
moral obligation to refrain from driving without a license no matter
how much of a hotshot behind the wheel you think you are.
Back to the original question. We have a listmember who knows a
couple who have been living together for around 20 years. He asks:
At what point did they stop fornicating and start being married? I
answer: at the point, if any, where they both definitely and
explicitly accepted an obligation to be faithful to each other, for
better or worse, as long as they both lived. If they have accepted
such an obligation, what are their reasons for not being willing to
declare it in front of, say, a justice of the peace? | 0 | trimmed_train |
7,176 | I'm looking for a version of xterm which handles color and vt220 style status
lines. Can anyone out there help? | 16 | trimmed_train |
10,582 | I hear George Bush (remember him?) will receive an honors degree from
some Kuwaiti University for contributing to certain Kuwaiti interests
not too long ago. Do you think it would add much to his resume? ;-)
| 16 | trimmed_train |
3,503 | Hi again,
Many thanks to all the people who responded to my request for a MS-
Windows screen grabber. It proves to me AGAIN that the net is a
wonderful thing. :-)
So, in summary:
There are two choices:
1) Various screen grabber packages (Corel Draw has one, there are
a couple on simtel and cica).
2) Use the built-in PrintScreen and Alt-PrintScreen functionality
to paste the screen (or window) to the clipboard. Then paste the
clipboard to your application. Cool!
Again, thanks for the info...
Grant (the MS-Windows newbie -- Unix and X are my bag ;-)
| 1 | trimmed_train |
1,469 |
Other alternatives include output of vmstat, iostat, pstat and friends
with various flags, or even better crash.
e.g. on an RS/6000 (AIX 3.2) you can get lots of relatively
unpredicatble data out of crash. (the output from the following script
usually gives about 600k of goo on a moderately busy system.)
#!/bin/sh
crash <<!
proc -
tty
stack
pcb
callout
vfs -
socket
vnode
inode -
mbuf
file
mst
buffer
le
!
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6,354 |
I meant to comment on this at the time.
There's just no way baserunning could be that important - if it was,
runs created wouldn't be nearly as accurate as it is.
Runs Created is usually about 90-95% accurate on a team level, and
there's a lot more than baserunning that has to account for the
remaining percent. | 2 | trimmed_train |
5,977 |
DOS 5.0/6.0 cannot read the NTFS file system, although the NTFS file system
can read the FAT file system of DOS. I have WindowsNT on a seperate
partition on my machine at home, and I can read my DOS disks from Windows NT,
but not vice-versa.
As far as the robustness of the file system, it seems to be very fast, and
I have yet to have a single problem with it. That doesn't prove it's better
than the FAT system though. Read the book 'Inside Windows NT,' it will give
you all the info you're looking for.
Scott
-- | 18 | trimmed_train |
3,071 |
Hank Greenberg, Sid Gordon, Ron Blomberg. | 2 | trimmed_train |
2,972 |
If you agree that good works have a role somewhere, you will
generally find yourself in one of two camps:
(1) Faith + Works --> Salvation
or (2) Faith --> Salvation + Works
Either (1) works are required for salvation, or (2) faith will
inevitably result in good works.
I am also of the opinion that salvation is by faith alone, based on
Ephesians 2 and Romans 3:21-31. I also conclude that James 2, when
read in context, is teaching bullet (2) above. When James speaks of
justification, I would claim that he is not speaking of God declaring
the believing sinner innocent in His sight (Paul's use of the word).
Instead he is speaking of the sinner's profession of faith being
"justified" or "proven" by the display of good works. Also according
to James 2, the abscence of such works is evidence for a "dead" or
"useless" faith which fails to save.
James 2 is not a problem for the doctrine of salvation by faith if it
is teaching (2). Works would have their place, not as merit toward
salvation, but as evidence of true faith.
Regards,
---
Dave Weaver | "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to
[email protected]| gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot (1949)
[There are of course a number of other possibilities. The Reformers
believed
salvation --> faith --> works
Some of us suspect that the three things are tied up together in such a way
that no diagram of this form can do it justice. | 0 | trimmed_train |
9,790 |
WHO THINKS THE ASTROS ARE GOING PLACES???
THEY'RE CURRENTLY FIRST PLACE.
THEY'RE 5-4, 5-1 ON THE ROAD!
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3,218 | RADIOSITY SOURCES WANTED !!!
============================
When I read the comp.graphics group, I never found something about
radiosity. Is there anybody interested in out there? I would be glad
to hear from somebody.
I am looking for source-code for the radiosity-method. I have already
read common literature, e. g.Foley ... . I think little examples could
help me to understand how radiosity works. Common languages ( C, C++,
Pascal) prefered.
I hope you will help me! | 1 | trimmed_train |
9,547 |
Gee, I got the idea from somewhere that devices like this were in common
use in WWII, so that commanders on board ships could bellow at the troops
landing on a beach, for example.
Which reminds me of an anecdote from the mid-60s. At a communications
conference a Marine Corps communications officer said he didn't care
much for all the spread-spectrum multi-access expensive communication
systems that people were talking about at the time; what he wanted
was a kilowatt broadcast transmitter on the ship and a $4.95 Japanese
transistor radio stuck in the ear of every Marine hitting the beach.
--
[email protected]
[email protected] | 11 | trimmed_train |
8,605 | Hi. I'm writing a program to convert .dxf files to a database
format used by a 3D graphics program I've written. My program stores
the points of a polygon in CCW order. I've used 3D Concepts a
little and it seems that the points are stored in the order
they are drawn.
Does the DXF format have a way of indicating which order the
points are stored in, CW or CCW? Its easy enough to convert,
but if I don't know which way they are stored, I dont know
which direction the polygon should be visible from.
If DXF doesn't handle this, can anyone recommend a workaround?
The best I can think of is to create two polygons for each one
in the DXF file, one stored CW and the other CCW. But that
doubles the number of polygons and decreases speed...
Thanks in advance for any help, | 1 | trimmed_train |
411 |
It sounds like something/one may have set the 1000's separator to "." in
Contol Panel (under International). This makes 23,482 look like 23.482
and File Manager is chopping off what it thinks is the decimal part of
the file size. 3,356,345 becomes 3.356.345, and again, File Manager is
confused by the decimal points where there should be commas, chopping
off everything to the right of the first period.
--
Tony DeBari FQDN: [email protected] CI$: 73117,452
UUCP: ...!uunet!ssc60!tonyd *P*: GHRW14B | 18 | trimmed_train |
6,286 | So it looks like I'm going to have to put a couple of bikes in storage
for a few months, starting several months from now, and I'm already
contemplating how to do it so they're as easy to get going again as
possible. I have everything under control, I think, besides the
batteries. I know that if I buy a $50.00 Battery Tender for each one
and leave them plugged in the whole time the bikes are in storage,
they'll be fine. But I'm not sure that's necessary. I've never heard
anyone discussing this idea, so maybe there's some reason why it isn't
so great. But maybe someone can tell me.
Would it be a mistake to fully charge the batteries, drain the
electrolyte into separate containers (one for each battery), seal the
container, close up the batteries, and leave them that way? Then it
would seem that when the bikes come out of storage, I could put the
electrolyte back in the batteries and they should still be fully
charged. What's wrong with this?
On a related, but different note for you Bay Area Denizens, wasn't
there someone who had a bunch of spare EDTA a few months back? Who was
it? Is there still any of it left?
Thanks for any and all help! | 12 | trimmed_train |
10,568 | I recently read an article in a local paper written by an Islamic
person who was upset with the way Islam has been portrayed by western media.
When a terrorist action takes place in the middle east, it is always played
up as an Islamic Terrorist. However, when the a Serbian terrorist attacks
the Croations, its not a Christian terrorist, its just a terrorist.
I have often tried to explain this to some close friends who believe
the press, that Islam is somehow tied to violence. Often times you hear
things like "They just don't value human life like we do..." and so on.
I was wondering if anyone out there had any suggestions for how we can
change this image, or how I can help my friends to see that this is just
hype. I would appreciate any serious suggestions or comments via e-mail,
and I'm not interested in hearing about how right the press is. | 15 | trimmed_train |
39 | / iftccu:talk.politics.guns / [email protected] (Vincent Fox) / 10:34 am Apr 14, 1993 /
This isn't rec.guns, so maybe this is getting a bet technical, but I
can't resist....
Sometimes..... Depends on WHY it misfired....
I can't imagine doing much combat type shooting single action.....
Assuming the cylinder WILL rotate....
Never hurts to err on the side of safety, but if you've got one of those
'new fangled' hammer blocks or transfer bar safeties, it's unnecessarily
redundant. I'd rather have the extra round.
Quite true. Speed loaders are a little less convenient to pack around
than magazines though.
True, but this is a training function.
Cocked and locked for single actions or hammer down on double actions
are the only carry modes that make sense... The 80 series Colt's for
example are quite safe to carry this way.
Agreed.
Now that I've shot off my mouth a bit, let me back some of this up. It
is true that a simple misfire on a revolver doesn't cost you much. On
the other hand, I've had all sorts of interesting things happen over the
years. For example, I've had FACTORY ammunition that has had high
primers. A high primer will tie your revolver up somewhere from seconds
to minutes while you try to pound the action open to clear the problem.
An auto? Jack the slide and continue.
I've had bullets come out of the case, keeping the cylinder from
turning, see clearing paragraph above. About the WORST that can happen
with a semi auto is a double feed. This can be cleared in seconds.
Most revolvers are more 'fragile' then semi auto's. There are all sorts
of close tolerance parts and fitting involved. Dropping the gun, or a
blow to the gun or all sorts of things can take it out of action. Many
of the problems that can be cured on the spot with a (quality) semi auto
take a gun smith for a revolver. In short a revolver MAY be less likely
to malfunction, but as a rule when it does, you're out of the fight.
The majority of malfunctions that occur with semi autos does not fall
into that category.
Vincint makes many good points in this post, but leaves off the opposing
view of most of them. A real good starting place is Ayoob's "The Semi
Auto Pistol for Police and Self Defense."
In general, I'd agree, the revolver is an excellent first gun and self
defense weapon for somebody that does not have the time, and inclination
that is necessary for the training and practice needed to use a semi
auto effectively as a self defense arm.
Most cops are notoriously indifferent to firearms. If the department
isn't going to train them, they aren't going to take the time on their
own. There is no doubt that training is an issue. The amount of
training required for effective use of a semi auto is probably several
times that of a revolver. Many cops don't bother.
For myself, I'd hate to be limited to one or the other. I'd rather pick
what fits better with my personal inclination, what I'm wearing that day
and so on. Like the Moderator on rec.guns says, buy em all!
That said, I have to admit that often my advice to people thinking of
buying their first defense arm is (right after taking a class) get a
Ruger or Smith revolver.... (Sorry Colt fans. Colt revolvers are ok
too!)
If this post had gone the other way, I'd be arguing for revolvers. :-) | 9 | trimmed_train |
5,472 |
I re-read what I wrote and it didn't say exactly what I thought.
Sure the Pens are a better team. They've got size and the best skill players
in the league. They've also got the best clutch goaltending. They're the
best team in the league.
But, my point was the Caps have not played to their ability level vs the
Pens since last year's choke. And that's the mental problem (the one they've
had for a number of years) I tried to point out. Spirit, mental preparedness,
will to win, whatever you want to call it, it's missing when the Caps play the
Pens. Actually, you're right - it won't make any difference. | 17 | trimmed_train |
5,009 | "auto
from | 14 | trimmed_train |
1,709 | :
: Okay, here is my configuration:
:
: 80486-33 Gateway 433C Micronics ISA
: 12MB RAM
: WD212MB IDE HD ( drive C: )
: ST3144A 125MB IDE HD ( drive D: )
: Adaptec SCSI 1542B controller, with SCSI BIOS enabled
: Seagate ST296N 80MB SCSI drive
:
: Alrighty, when I boot up I get the Adaptec BIOS message, but it says
: something like:
:
: "Drive C: installed"
: "Drive D: installed"
: "ADaptec SCSI BIOS not installed!"
:
: And I can't get to the Seagate drive.
:
: I go into PhoenixBIOS setup, remove the entry for drive D:, and BOOM, I can
: access the Seagate. Is there a way to get two IDE drives and the Seagate
: at the same time? I have ASPI4DOS.SYS, but it just hangs the system.
:
: Brian
:
There is a simple answer. If my memory serves me the scsi bios will only
work as the first or second drive. Any "built-in" drives e.g. IDE are
installed first and then when the scsi bios runs it will try to install
as the next drive. But if there are already two drives, then no can do.
The solution is simple: use the aspi4dos device driver and disable the
scsi bios (as it is useless in your case). It works like a champ! I
have seen a similar situation before.
Good Luck | 3 | trimmed_train |
7,944 | >the design and propoganda stages that she doesn't care any more? | 7 | trimmed_train |
5,143 | A Alan Brock 4/14/93 Orange County Register Editorial titled "A case for
repealing the income tax" got my attention.
Some quotes:
"... a tax on income, because of the flexible definition of that
concept, invites the government to snoop into every nook and
cranny of our lives. Encouraging people to snoop on one another
and report transgressions against the almighty state, which most
Americans deplored in Nazi or communist regimes..."
"... Although most Americans paid no income tax at all 50 years ago
-- withholding began only during World War II, as a "temporary"
exigency, and in 1948 the median family federal income tax was $9..."
"Last year the federal government got only 37 percent of its income
from income taxes... How long ago was it that the federal government
somehow managed to stagger along on 63 percent of its 1992 revenue?
... Would you believe five?..." | 13 | trimmed_train |
5,952 | Does anyone know where I can FTP MPEG for DOS from? Thanks for any
help in advance. Email is preferred but posting is fine.
Scott
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1 | trimmed_train |
8,270 | Hi! I will like to know if there is a FORTRAN library for MS-Windows v3+ out
there.
I have several lots of source code written by past A/Ps in MS-FORTRAN, and
recently have needed to port them to MS-Windows... I would like to avoid a
major code-rewrite if possible - maybe a WINDOWS library is all I need?
Please help - reply by E-mail to: [email protected] | 18 | trimmed_train |
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1,181 | Yo, Whaz up!!!
Earlier, I was reading on the net about using Splitfire plugs. One
guy was thinking about it and almost everybody shot him to hell. Well,
I saw one think that someone said about "Show me a team that used Split-
fires...." Well, here's some additional insight and some theories
about splitfire plugs and how they boost us as oppossed to cages.
Splitfires were originally made to burn fuel more efficiently and
increased power for the 4x4 cages. Well, for these guys, splitfires
increased performance by increasing TORQUE. They weren't focusing
on horsepower numbers.
Now how does this related to us high performance pilots? Well, that
depends. Do you pilot a high performance 2- or 4-cylinder machine?
In the case of 4-cylinders, splitfires would increase overall torque,
but 4's make more top end horsepower with its torque packed down low.
So for 4's, splitfires would not significantly increase power.
But what about twins?... Many of you 4 guys laugh at some of us twins,
but many times we carry less weight which sometimes can make up for
the hp loss (see Doug Polen vs. Scott Russell, Daytona 1992). However,
twins make more torque thoughout their powerbands. So how does this
translate? Increased torque should "theoretically" help twins make
more power. Splitfire claims that there should be not extra mods
or anything made, just stick 'em in.
Now I don't know about all of this (and I'm trying to catch up with
somebody about it now), but Splitfires should help twins more than
4's.
As far as racing teams.... Ducati team "Fast by Ferraci" used
splitfires in the 1989 season (this is when they had Jamie James
running for em), but I don't know why they stopped since then.
Also, somebody check to see if they had them in 88.....
Peace.
Warren
[email protected]
"Have Suzuki, will travel..."
At a local "fix-er-up-er" shop, the bike repairest looked at a
dumped ZX-7. Then he asked the guy...
"What happened..." "I dumped the clutch..."
"How fast..." "Pretty fast..."
"Insurance..." "Nope."
The fixer smiled..... | 12 | trimmed_train |
2,576 | Hello world,
I'm attempting to write an 8051 simulator on an IBM PC for teaching
purposes, so that first-year elec-eng students can 'see' the workings
of the microcontroller as it performs operations - logical ands, for
example, being shown on a bit-by-bit basis (1 AND 1 = 1) so that the
students can see that it's not really a mystical process, but totally
logical, for example. Every instruction should show some 'working',
and not just alter register/memory/port contents.
Does anyone know of any freely-available example simulation code,
in Pascal or Modula-2, that would show me where I'm going wrong
in writing my simulator? [I'm using Ayala's -The 8051 Microcontroller-
as a reference - the simulator supplied with the package is overkill
for simple teaching purposes, I feel, and there's no source code to help
you roll your own.]
Please email me if you can help, or if you know of somewhere more
appropriate I should be posting this - I rarely scan these groups.
Thanks, | 3 | trimmed_train |
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7,417 | We are trying to connect an Olivetti XM4311 5" floppy drive as the second
drive on a Panasonic 286 machine. It seems to sort of talk to it (gets it
spinning and stepping) but gives a "Disk not ready" error.
There are two jumpers (which seem to work best open), a 3 position DIP
switch, and a 8 position DIP switch. We don't know how to set the DIP
switches and think that may be the problem.
Any information, or advice (other than "junk the stupid thing" :) would be
most appreciated, thanks. (email reply preferred). | 3 | trimmed_train |
4,478 | Regarding the post for information about the Mac Portable and the
Powerbook 100, here are a couple of the answers:
(1) Does the Mac Portable support Appletalk? Yes
(2) What CPU is in the Mac Portable? A low power version of the 68000
running at 15.87 Mhz.
(3) Does the Mac Portable run system 7? Yes, although it does use up a
lot of memory.
(4) Is memory still availabe for the Portable? There are several vendors
that still make RAM for the Portable. There are two options: Some vendors
sell memory that plugs into the RAM Slot inside the portable. Others sell
memory that plugs into the Processor Direct Slot. Either way, the most
memory you can address is either 8 or 9 megabytes, depending on whether
the Portable is Backlit or not. King Memory and Peripherials in Irvine
California is the cheapest place I know of for Portable memory. 2MB -
$140, 4 MB, $250, and 7 MB $415. I still see several ads in macuser that
are selling 4 MB modules for $450. Wide variety in pricing here.
(5) What is the internal HD? Its a Conner CP-3045 40 MB HD with an
average access time of about 25 ms.
(6) Is the screen better that the PB 100? Heavens yes! The PB 100 is a
backlit PASSIVE matrix screen which means it fades out on you if you move
your head a few degrees left or right. The Portable has a backlit or
non-backlit ACTIVE Matrix screen which I think is a joy to read.
Other things to consider - Where to get the portable and how much to pay
for it? A good supplier has been SelectTerm in Mass. They were willing to
sell a 2MB Non-backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for about
$650. Or a 4 MB Backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for
about $900.
The answer is call around for a good while or you'll pay too much.
I'm still looking for an internal FAX modem for the portable? Anybody got
one they want to sell? -- Good Luck, Gene Wright
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889 |
my $.02 - Yes and No. I do not believe the above scenario is not possible.
Either they are believing and living (in at least some part) led by God, else
they are not. Believing (intellectually, but waiting(?)) is not enough.
Especially important to remember is that no one can judge whether you are
so committed, nor can you judge someone else. I guess the closest we can
come to know someone's situation is listening to their own statements. This
can be fallible, as is our sense of communion one with another.
Regarding this passage, we need to remember that this is a letter to a church
(at Laodicea), people who are Of the Body of Christ. (Rev.3:14-16) He talks
about their works. A translation could say that he says their lack of
concern makes him sick (to the point of throwing up).
Right, saving is by faith alone, except that faith does not come alone, if
you catch the two meanings.
I can offer the explanation that Jesus would that we were either "on fire
for Him" or so cold we knew we were not in His will and thus could be made
aware of our separation. This is admonishment for His children, not eternal
damnation.
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680 | Someone was looking for these a few weeks ago - check out comp.dsp
Mike.
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2,481 |
No, VL-bus IDE is no faster than ISA IDE. The IDE interface is
fundamentally nothing more than an extension of the ISA bus, and if
you hook it to VL-bus it'll work as fast as the slower of the two,
meaning ISA speed.
On the other hand, I wouldn't expect it to be *slower*... | 3 | trimmed_train |
8,075 |
If you want to live with someone, you can.
If you don't want to have a civil marriage, don't.
If you don't want to have a wedding in a church, don't.
If you want to call that a marriage, go right ahead.
I hope that the young people that are around you, don't follow your example.
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1,439 | I must correct the following in my previous posting:
: If you are trying to be objective, you must also recognise that
:
: 1) the gospels are not independent sources, on the contrary, they
: share much of the same material
I should have been a bit more careful here - the gospels not only
tell us about the same events, they usually use the same wordings.
Textual analyses show that Matthew and Luke probably had a common
source, which may have influenced Mark, too.
Petri
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8,397 |
For what it's worth (I haven't confirmed it), a Diamond tech-rep told
me that ALL S3-based video cards use port addresses 0x2E0 and 0x2E8.
If this is true, it appears that you canNOT use more than one S3 card
in your system.
Lance Hartmann (lance%[email protected])
Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address. | 3 | trimmed_train |
9,105 | I have a problem when I'm using PostScript. When I am working local
on a SUN SPARCstaton IPC the PostScript works good, but when I connect
to the SUN from a X-terminal I just get error messages that the
PostScript cannot connect to the news-display.
Why doesn't PostScript work on an X-terminal?
Is there any way to make it work?
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* Extended Database support
* Extended Networking Support
* Remote Host support
* Extended Communication Support
PLUS! A copy of OS/2 2.0. The ES package is brand new and uninstalled, all
manuals, disks, etc. are included. The ES package retails for $495 with OS/2
2.0 selling for $79 or something like that.
I'll let both of them go for $200. My needs changed thus eliminating my
need for the package once I bought it.
If Interested, please Email me at: | 5 | trimmed_train |
3,749 | One thing I think is interesting about alt.athiesm is the fact that
without bible-thumpers and their ilk this would be a much duller newsgroup.
It almost needs the deluded masses to write silly things for athiests to
tear apart. Oh well, that little tidbit aside here is what I really wanted
write about.
How can anyone believe in such a sorry document as the bible? If you
want to be religious aren't there more plausable books out there? Seriously,
the bible was written by multiple authors who repeatedly contradict each
other. One minute it tells you to kill your kid if he talks back and the next
it says not to kill at all. I think that if xtians really want to follow a
deity they should pick one that can be consistent, unlike the last one they
invented.
For people who say Jesus was the son of god, didn't god say not to
EVER put ANYONE else before him? Looks like you did just that. Didn't god
say not to make any symbols or idols? What are crosses then? Don't you think
that if you do in fact believe in the bible that you are rather far off track?
Was Jesus illiterate? Why didn't he write anything? Anyone know?
I honestly hope that people who believe in the bible understand that
it is just one of the religious texts out there and that it is one of the
poorer quality ones to boot. The only reason xtianity escaped the middle east
is because a certain roman who's wine was poisoned with lead made all of rome
xtian after a bad dream.
If this posting keeps one person, just ONE person, from standing on a
streetcorner and telling people they are going to hell I will be happy.
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5,891 | First of all I never said the Holocaust. I said before the
Holocaust. I'm not ignorant of the Holocaust and know more
about Nazi Germany than most people (maybe including you).
What I resent is ignorant statements that call people
names when they disagree with your position. Opposing the
atrocities commited by the Israeli governement hardly qualifies
as anti-semitism. If you think name calling is a valid form of
argument in intellectual circles, you need to get out more
often.
I don't think the suffering of some Jews during WWII
justifies the crimes commited by the Israeli government. Any
attempt to call Civil liberterians like myself anti-semetic is
not appreciated.
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8,476 | I just got a copy of Tobias' Managing Your Money v9.0. I have Quicken 6,
and it's wonderful for some things, but MYM seems to have some features
that Q6 doesn't. For example, Q6 doesn't seem to be able to handle
monthly automatic deductions from a checking account (you know, a
monthly payment that gets electronically deducted every month from
my checking account). Or is there something that I'm not doing right,
and Q6 can actually do that? Anyway, MYM seems to be able to handle
monthly deductions. In fact, it can apparently do better than that.
That is, you can specify monthly, bimonthly, quarterly, even yearly.
Anyway, is anyone aware of a comparitive study of the two programs?
Or can someone just give me their own personal impressions? Maybe
someone who has used both. Or maybe someone who is familiar with
each could give me a capsule review? Anything would be greatly
appreciated. If I keep MYM, I have to pay for it, and I don't know
whether it's worth doing. If MYM is better than Q6, of course I
will keep it. But if Q6 can do everything MYM can do (maybe even
better), I won't. Thanks all! | 18 | trimmed_train |
5,995 |
In that case why do they chase ST1100s & Goldwings?
Tony
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2,791 |
Hence we are "all" above the Law where "all" in this case refers to
Christians.
When was the last time you heard about a Jewish animal sacrifice?
The blood sacrifice of an innocent man?
Then why don't Christians follow it, why don't they even follow their
own Ten Commandments?
So, in short; Hitler is in heaven and Gandhi is in Hell?
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7,013 |
First of all, the Penguins WILL win the cup again. Who is going to stop them?
Definitely not the Canucks!
My predictions:
Patrick Division winner: Pittsburgh
Adams Division winner: Quebec or Montreal
Norris Division winner: Detroit
Smythe Division winner: Winnipeg
Wales conference champ: Pittsburgh
Campbell Conference champ: Detroit
Stanley Cup Champions(again): Pittsburgh
Canucks suck. They'll lose in the first round, compliments of Winnipeg
and Teemu Selanne. | 17 | trimmed_train |
5,740 |
+>The Golan Heights is a serious security problem, and Israel obviously
+>will have to keep part of it and give up part of it. (One should
+>remember that the Golan Heights had been part of the area that was to
+>be in Britain's Palestine Mandate, slated to become part of the Jewish
+>state, until Britain traded it to France for other considerations. In
+>other words, it is an historical accident that it was ever part of
+>Syria.)
The Palestine mandate had no borders before
the borders were negotiated and drawn. The most the Golan may have been
is on the list of what territories Britian would have liked to
see in the palestine mandate.
Until the mandates came into existance, there were no defined
boundaries between any of the various territories in the region. | 6 | trimmed_train |
2,783 | I am making a search for a CAD program that does a decent job
of making schematic drawings. The program needs to be in
MS-DOS, Windows if possible.
What I want the CAD program to do is to draw diagrams by
dragging elements onto the screen, and in this the elements
needed are as diverse as vacuum tubes to ICs (case with pins).
It also needs to have provision for adding legends to the
components as well as their values. In other words I want to
produce quality drawings. Printout would be to either 24 pin
dot-matrix and/or Laser Printer.
If you know of such a CAD program that is of reasonable cost,
please respond.
Fred W. Culpepper
OLD DOMINION UNIVERSITY (Retired)
[email protected] | 11 | trimmed_train |
8,226 | The Logitech ScanMan 32 is a nice unit, compact and effective it will
bring in graphics with surprisingly good quality. Note that its effective
resolution in grey scale mode is only about 72 dpi. If you don't intend
to magnify a graphic, it works fine. A true 256 level gray scanner would
work better for images. | 14 | trimmed_train |
1,757 | Dave Winfield's name does not go
In terms of PEAK, and I repeat PEAK years, Winfield has Done it
all. He has batted in the 340's for a season, drove in 100 and more runs
many times in a row before his injury. Consistently hit at or near 300
while knocking in 35 home runs. Have you even LOOKED at Dave Winfield's
slugging percentage for three or 4 of his best seasons. I still think that
dave was one of the BETTER of all time, but obviously not the best. He was
one of the best athletes evr to play baseball. He hit line drives that hit
the scoreboard in left-center field, a feat np one has done in the new
Stadium. Heck, only 2 or 3 other people have hit it over that green fence
since it has been remodeled. He could field, had a bullet arm, and his
hitting was comparable in many seasons to gary sheffields, and barry bonds
of last season. He is older now, and slowing down, takes more of an
uppercut to lift the ball out of the park, but he will always be my hero,
and my idol. There is nothing that could make me happier than George
inviting Dave back to the Bronx to play his last year of ball with the
Yankees. Of course, he will most likely refuse the offer, but who knows?
For 3 million dollars, he'll play. Heck they are giving gallego 2.5
million this year, having Dave as their DH, while leaving him time to play
the field when Tartabull is injured, or Nokes and mass are traded, should
give the Yanks the inspiration and leadership that will sweep in a new age
of Yankee domination.
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10,309 |
I don't know where you live, but I couldn't get out of my driveway
at night without reverse lights. As someone said, out in the country
you notice neat little things like stars and the difference between
day and night. At night around my house (which is amongst a forest of
rather tall oaks) it is DARK, except for nights with full moons.
Reverse lights illuminate my path very well when backing up; I greatly
prefer cars with them to cars without operational reverse lights.
James | 4 | trimmed_train |
5,843 | CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS
NAVY SCIENTIFIC VISUALIZATION AND VIRTUAL REALITY SEMINAR
Tuesday, June 22, 1993
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
(formerly the David Taylor Research Center)
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SPONSOR: NESS (Navy Engineering Software System) is sponsoring a
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The purpose of the seminar is to present and exchange information for
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PRESENTATIONS: Presentations are solicited on all aspects of
Navy-related scientific visualization and virtual reality. All
current work, works-in-progress, and proposed work by Navy
organizations will be considered. Four types of presentations are
available.
1. Regular presentation: 20-30 minutes in length
2. Short presentation: 10 minutes in length
3. Video presentation: a stand-alone videotape (author need not
attend the seminar)
4. Scientific visualization or virtual reality demonstration (BYOH)
Accepted presentations will not be published in any proceedings,
however, viewgraphs and other materials will be reproduced for
seminar attendees.
ABSTRACTS: Authors should submit a one page abstract and/or videotape to:
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Code 2042
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VOICE (301) 227-3618; FAX (301) 227-5753
E-MAIL [email protected]
Authors should include the type of presentation, their affiliations,
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papers should designate one point of contact.
DEADLINES: The abstact submission deadline is April 30, 1993.
Notification of acceptance will be sent by May 14, 1993.
Materials for reproduction must be received by June 1, 1993.
For further information, contact Robert Lipman at the above address.
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE, THANKS.
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10,314 | How about this: The
TelCo has your Clipper key. The TelCo
has your intended partner's key, if he is
using one. Whenever you call, the message
gets decrypted and reencrypted wihtout
y key exchange. I know it's a stupid
system, but for the feds, it'd be
great. The point of this isn;t to
take over the crypto market, BTW. Clinton
doen not want people to have any sort of crypto at
all (just like Busch). But he needs some support
for the "technology initiative" garbage he's
pushing (industrial policy stuff) and a computer
hip designed by the gov't is just the thing.
Who's going to thing about the (literal) Billions of
Dollars it took for a government agency to design? | 7 | trimmed_train |
4,423 |
I'd like to see you use this method on a couple of semi drivers. If they see you,
they usually acknowledge by sticking their hand out the window with their middle
finger extended. Because it is also obvious to them that there is no clear lane
ahead.
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40 |
Ted, you're missing a vital point. As Roger Lustig pointed out in a
previous response, the reason why Schott was banned from baseball was
because she had been known to call and think in a racially biased manner on
a constant basis. Such thoughts affected her hiring practices. Bonilla,
on the other hand, was found to have mentioned this one word a single time.
If he had been known to go around, criticizing homosexuals, it would be a
different story. Furthermore, he is merely an athlete. He doesn't have to
hire anyone as Schott had to do. Dave Pallone, the former NL umpire who is
an admitted homosexual, has decided to assist in a protest before a Mets
game at Shea. He, like you, thinks that Bonilla should be suspended from
baseball. Pallone is hoping for a year's suspension. In my opinion,
that's downright ludicrous. As Howie Rose on WFAN said, if you start
suspending athletes who have mentioned a derogatory word even a single time
under whatever conditions, then you'd probably have enough people remaining
to play a three-on-three game. Now, honestly, if you truly analyze the
differences between the two cases that you bring up in your article, I
would think that you'd reconsider your thoughts.
-Sean
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5,227 | } How does one read the betting spreads for baseball? They tend to be something
} like 8-9 which means it must not be runs!
that spread means you bet $5 on the underdog to win $8, or $9 on the
favorite to win $5. | 2 | trimmed_train |
4,473 |
Well, I'd say you're mostly right, but for different reasons. (BTW, as of a
couple years ago, the most stolen bikes in Orange County and SF were 750
GSX's and Ninjas). Probably the biggest reason BMWs aren't ripped off is that
most people who buy BMWs will only deal with the actual BMW dealer, or mail-
order types. Most of these can have their inventory checked fairly easily
by law-enforcement types, and their mark-up is usually sufficient to keep
them honest about acquiring parts.
For Harleys and rice-rockets, you've got 2 different situations. There is a
HUGE aftermarket in Harley parts, so a bike can be parted out fairly easily.
Ditto the non-sport Japanese bikes, but the prices on the parts for these are
not as high, comparatively. For the 'rockets', anytime a bike goes down, the
plastic is usually cracked, and is expensive to replace. It's fairly easy,
then, for a disreputable shop to take a fairing from a stolen bike, slap it
on a bike in for repair, repaint it, and make a tidy profit. The other parts,
more traceable, can be used, or discarded if they are too traceable.
Mike | 12 | trimmed_train |
5,470 | I have a Gateway 4DX-33V with my 3.5 inch floppy as drive A. I
accidentally discovered that if a have a floppy from ONE particular
box of diskettets in the A drive when I boot up, rather than getting
the "Non-system diskette" message, the machine hangs and the CMOS
gets overwritten (luckily, Gateway sends a print of the standard
CMOS settings with their systems). This only happens with a box
of pre-formatted Fuji disks that I have, no other disks cause this
problem. If I re-format one of the Fuji disks, the problem goes away.
I did a virus scan (scan v1.02) of the disks and found nothing.
Anyone have any idea what is going on here? Hardware problem? A
virus that can't be detected? The system reading in garbage from
the boot sector?
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8,186 | Koc) responded to article <[email protected]> dbd@urartu.
[DD] Problem 1
[DD]
[DD] My father told me the following story. During the famous wars between the
[DD] Armenians and the Persians, prince Zaurak Kamsarakan performed
[DD] extraordinary heroic deeds. Three times in a single month he attacked the
[DD] Persian troops. The first time, he struck down half of the Persian army.
[DD] The second time, pursuing the Persians, he slaughtered one fourth of the
[DD] soldiers. The third time, he destroyed one eleventh of the Persian army.
[DD] The Persians who were still alive, numbering two hundred eighty, fled to
[DD] Nakhichevan. And so, from this remainder, find how many Persian soldiers
[DD] there were before the massacre.
[Koc] Answer: a(1-1/2-1/4-1/11)=280 -> a = 1760
Good for you! You win the prize -- a free trip to Karabakh as an Azeri
soldier! Now, calculate the odds of you coming back after trying to de-populate
the area of Armenians!
[Koc] Corollary: Armenians strike, slaughter, destroy, and massacre. After
[Koc] all, they are not as innocent as the asala network claims.
Fact: I didn't notice any mention of Turks in Shirak, Van, or Trebizon in
this seventh century story!
Fact: These places were filled with Armenians as of 1915.
Fact: By the end of 1916, after the Turkish genocide of the Armenians, there
were no Armenians left in Shirak, Van, or Trebizon -- only Turks and
Kurds! In fact, there were no Pontus Greeks left alive in Trebizon
either!
Conclusion: Numbers don't lie in either case!
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3,162 | Need I say more???????
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7,705 | I've recently listened to a tape by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski, in which he
claims to have discovered a series naturally occuring peptides with anti-
cancer properties that he names antineoplastons. Burzynski says that his
work has met with hostility in the United States, despite the favorable
responses of his subjects during clinical trials.
What is the generally accepted opinion of Dr. Burzynski's research? He
paints himself as a lone researcher with a new breakthrough battling an
intolerant medical establishment, but I have no basis from which to judge
his claims. Two weeks ago, however, I read that the NIH's Department of
Alternative Medicine has decided to focus their attention on Burzynski's
work. Their budget is so small that I imagine they wouldn't investigate a
treatment that didn't seem promising.
Any opinions on Burzynski's antineoplastons or information about the current
status of his research would be appreciated.
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806 |
What evidence indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away?
Their distribution is very isotropic and the intensity distribution,
crudely speaking, indicates we're seeing an edge to the distribution.
Given the enormous power, i was just wondering, what if they are
quantum black holes or something like that fairly close by?
Why would they have to be at galactic ranges?
Now, in the good old days before GRO data, it was thought the
gamma bursters were neutron stars in the galaxy, it was expected that
GRO would confirm this by either showing they were a local population
(within a few hundred light years) or that they were in the galactic
halo. (Mechanism was not known but several plausible ones existed)
(also to be fair it was noted that the _brightest_ burster was
probably in the LMC, suggesting theorists might be wrong back then...)
As the Sun is not at the center of the galaxy a halo
population should show anisotropy (a local disk population is
ruled out completely at this stage) - to avoid the anisotropy you
have to push the halo out, the energy then gets large, the mechanism
of getting NS out that far becomes questionable, and we should start
to see for example the Andromeda's bursters.
The data is consistent with either a Oort cloud distribution
(but only just) - but no one can think of a plausible source with
the right spectrum. Or, it can be a cosmological distances (hence
isotropy) and the edge is "the edge of the Universe" ;-)
If at cosmological distances you need very high energy (to detect)
and a very compact source (for spectrum), ergo a neutron star
colliding with another neutron star or black hole. Even then getting
the spectrum is very hard, but conceivable.
If we know anything about physics at that level,
the bursters are not due to quantum black holes or cosmic
strings, wrong spectrum for one thing.
The situation is further complicated by recent claims that
there are two classes of sources ;-) [in the colliding NS
they'd actually probably fit relatively easily into the
NS-NS and NS-BH collision scenarios respectively]
my own pet theory is that it's Flying saucers entering
hyperspace :-)
but the reason i am asking is that most everyone assumes that they
are colliding nuetron stars or spinning black holes, i just wondered
if any mechanism could exist and place them closer in.
If you can think of one, remember to invite me to Stockholm... | 10 | trimmed_train |
802 |
I don't find this a credible argument, for two reasons. One you have
supplied below: unless I care about entering the USA at any time in the
future (eg. the Taiwanese backyard cloners - who BTW have been known to
decap custom silicon and reproduce it on daughterboards when pirating
high-profit arcade machines and the like - who wouldn't care less), I am not
going to care much about US confidentiality, am I? Only people like the
real me, who does care about travelling to various countries for business
reasons, will sit up and follow laws like this, but I would contend that
we're not the main threat.
I also have grave doubts whether an algorythm widely distributed in silicon
could possibly be called "classified." It's like handing out military
secrets to the whole world in envelopes marked "don't open me." I can
imagine several credible defences which could be employed if it came to
a trial. One would be the stupidity of the government's actions.
Amusing thought: could they have employed an algorythm which is infeasable
for a fast software implementation, but which is easy in custom hardware?
In DES, the extensive use of permutation tables (trivial in hardware: you
just swap bus lines), but relatively slow in software have had a big effect
on the speed difference between hardware and software implementations of
that cipher (indeed, I suspect that Lucifer's designers were well aware that
it would be, and approved.) Certain algorythms (usually parallel search
algorythms) can be very slow in software, yet can fly in custom hardware.
I have no proof of their employment in Clipper -- it is pure conjecture.
However, as a software implementation of this cipher is something that its
designers would have been trying to avoid at all costs, then the inclusion
of such techniques seems credible.
Hmmm... I also wonder what Intergraph thinks about the use of the name
"Clipper" for this device. :)
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5,755 |
Why didn't you create 8 grey-level images, and display them for
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128... time slices?
This requires the same total exposure time, and the same precision in
timing, but drastically reduces the image-preparation time, no?
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9,136 | Hi,
I have a few enquiries about PC's and compatibles in general.. Some software
others hardware orientated.. (Probably the wrong newsgroup .... as everyone
claims..)
Anyway..
1) Does any one happen to have the board jumper details for a Trident 8900
SVGA graphics card (1MB) or even what the dip switches do on the end.. Mine
already works fine (albeit slow) and after having blown up a monitor I found
out which switch controlled the interlace/non interlace facility..
But I'm curious as to why there are 8 dip switches on the card with apparantly
little use..
2) Secondly, does anyone know why Commodore had to be so crazed in their design
of the PC-40 motherboard with respect to the RAM.. (IE 512 + 512 or 640 +0K) ??
3) Can anyone supply pin details for the expansion ports for a pc (8 or 16 bit
) .. or even a sample circuit to cause an irq when a button is pressed...
(Yeah I know its a piece of cake.. I'm lazy 8)
4) Software wise.. Anyone care to divulge some tips on accessing expanded RAM
on a PC (from a program written in Turbo C++)....
For instance, using farcoreleft() and coreleft() return only memory available
from the base 640K regardless of combinations of EMM386 etc etc...
What I want is to be able to use the RAM above and beyond the 1MB boundary...
I'm not certain whether farmalloc / new actually uses it anyway but I'll
suspect not ..
5) Also.. what half brained wit created DOS so as not to be re-entrant??????
As a follow on, does anyone have any comments about the use of DOS calls
0 to 0C from within a DOS interrupt? Ie will changing the stack size on
entry be of use.. Two articles I've read on the subject have given
conflicting views... Does anyone have any views on writing direct to
screen memory in terms of portability? | 3 | trimmed_train |
7,995 |
But only in NY,NJ, Philadelphia, and Chicago. Everywhere else, the only
reason SportsChannel was available was for local baseball broadcasts.
And local baseball pre-empted the NHL playoffs. Thus far into this
playoff season, ESPN/ABC has given me more hockey in 2 days (1 game)
than SportsChannel did (0 games).
If people want hockey on TV, they should watch hockey on TV. I bet the
ratings for hockey on Sunday on ABC went into the toilet. Next week, there
will be far fewer ABC affiliates with hockey.
Someone in this thread said that he wouldn't watch the games even if
they were on TV, and this is a r.s.h. regular contributor!
Xenophobes north of border needn't fear the US-Americanization of "our"
game, because US-Americans will never figure out how to market hockey
here. Support your team; support your game. | 17 | trimmed_train |
4,502 |
Yes, and of course the Kinsey Report taken 50 years ago in much more liberal
times regarding homosexuality.........
Or smart enough to realize that that argument would have to apply to every
survey regarding homosexuality. Therefore, they would look stupid. (Actually,
Idid see Bryant Gumble bring that point up. Hee, hee).
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4,087 |
Not to pick on Mr. May in particular, of course, but isn't this
kind of the domino theory? When one little country falls, its neighbor
will surely follow, and before you know it, we're all mining salt
in Siberia for not turning in our Captain Crunch Secret Decoder Rings.
Surely the hypothesis relying on the least wild assumptions is
to take this at face value. Our lads at the fort were asked to cook up
something that's pretty secure, with a key that can be escrowed neatly,
and they did. The government plans to sell this thing, for the reasons
they state. Yes, those evil guys in the FBI can probably, with some
effort, abuse the system. I got news for you, if the evil guys in
the FBI decide they want to persecute you, they're gonna, and you're
gonna hate it. Fact is, the FBI doesn't want to listen to your phone
calls, and if they do, and if you're using triple-DES, they'll just
get a parabolic microphone and point it at your head.
This is pretty clearly an effort by the government to do exactly
what they're saying they're doing. As is typical with governments,
it's mismanaged, and full of holes and compromises. As is typical
with our government, it's not too bad, could be worse.
My interpretation.
Andrew
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 7 | trimmed_train |
11,307 | Hi to all.
Since all of you could also be a seller as well as a buyer, I'd like to bring
this issue for discussion - what would be the best solution in case a deal
became a lemon?
As I understand most people selling things over the net do not grant a warranty,I am in such a situation that the seller did not state whether a warranty would be granted or not and the item I received is out of order. The seller insisted
that it was 'in good condition' when he sent it and so would just return half ofthe amount that I paid if I send the item back to him and after he is sured it
is bad. Is this reasonable?
Basically I would like to believe the seller tells the truth. Also, I am positively to say that I've not done anything wrong which might cause the failure of
the thing. My assumption here is everyone is honest - so rule out the possibility that either one of the two parties or both are liars.
I would like to hear your opinion - either in here or directly respond to my
e-mail address.
I know there is such a risk that you could lose money. But, how can we make it
enjoyable to most people and not wasting the bandwidth? | 5 | trimmed_train |
7,063 | The information in the packets isn't necessarily
distinctive -- you need to know that it is an X11 connection.
-- Ethan
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1,187 |
Seems to me folks, that if you are so interested in acquiring CNN, just
buy your $1000 worth of stock today. It's being traded everyday. After you
own your piece, we can work on the proxy votes later. It's probably even a
good investment. | 9 | trimmed_train |
7,934 |
>At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was
>des encryped and the person that had sent it, went on vaction.
>Rather than wait two weeks I set up a straight frontal attack with
>one key at a time. It only took two(2) days to crack the file.
>No, I don't have any faith in DES.
Taking this at face value (though it seems quite dissonant with
much else that has been published here about brute force DES
cracking, unless Russell was lucky with respect to the key), I'd be
very interested in whether the program Russell used is available?
key search is very practical in many real situations since people use
such stupid keys on the average. password crackers know this well.
Depending on his answer, this could be an appalling development
calling into question both DES and RSA/DES.
not really. in fact, public key based communication systems very
often pick keys automatically which are much better than passwords or
pass phrases.
If any bright programmer with a little idle machine time can crack
a single DES message in a couple of days (assuming no tricks that
are message-specific), | 7 | trimmed_train |
7,288 |
I always like your kind of odds. The Greek governments must be held
to account for the sub-human conditions of the Turkish minority living
in the Western Thrace under the brutal Greek domination. The religious
persecution, cultural oppression and economical ex-communication applied
to the Turkish population in that area are the dimensions of the human
rights abuse widespread in Greece.
"Greece's Housing Policies Worry Western Thrace Turks"
...Newly built houses belonging to members of the minority
community in Dedeagac province, had, he said, been destroyed
by Evros province public works department on Dec. 4.
Sungar added that they had received harsh treatment by the
security forces during the demolition.
"This is not the first demolition in Dedeagac province; more
than 40 houses were destroyed there between 1979-1984 and
members of that minority community were made homeless," he
continued.
"Greece Government Rail-Roads Two Turkish Ethnic Deputies"
While World Human Rights Organizations Scream, Greeks
Persistently Work on Removing the Parliamentary Immunity
of Dr. Sadik Ahmet and Mr. Ahmet Faikoglu.
In his 65-page confession, Salman Demirok, a former chief of PKK
operations in Hakkari confessed that high-level relations between
PKK, Greece and Greek Cypriot administration existed.
According to Demirok, Greek Cypriot administration not only
gives shelter to PKK guerillas but also supplies them with
food and weapons at the temporary camps set up in its territory.
Demirok disclosed that PKK has three safe houses in South Cyprus,
used by terrorists such as Ferhat. In the camps, he added,
terrorists were trained to use various weapons including RPG's
and anti-aircraft guns which had been purchased directly from
the Greek government. Greek Cypriot government has gone to the
extent of issuing special identification cards to PKK members so
that they can travel from one region to another without being
confronted by legal obstacles. Demirok's account was confirmed
by another PKK defector, Fatih Tan, who gave himself over to
police in Hakkari after spending four years with PKK. Tan explained
that the terrorists went through a training in camps in South Cyprus,
sometimes for a period of 12 weeks or more.
"Torture in Greece: Hidden Reality"
Case 1: Kostas Andreadis and Dimitris Voglis.
...Andreadis' head was covered with a hood and he was tortured
by falanga (beating on the soles of the feet), electric shocks,
and was threatened with being thrown out of the window. An
official medical report clearly documented this torture....
Case 2: Horst Bosniatzki, a West German Citizen.
...At midnight he was taken to the beach, chains were put to his
feet and he was threatened to be thrown to the sea. He was dragged
along the beach for about a 1.5 Km while being punched on the
head and kidneys...Back on the police station, he was beaten
on the finger tips with a thin stick until one of the fingertips
split open....
Case 3: Torture of Dimitris Voglis.
Case 4: Brothers Vangelis (16) and Christos Arabatzis (12),
Vasilis Papadopoulos (13), and Kostas Kiriazis (13).
Case 5: Torture of Eight Students at Thessaloniki Police
Headquarters.
SOURCE: The British Broadcasting Corporation, Summary of
World Broadcasting -July 6, 1987: Part 4-A: The
Middle East, ME/8612/A/1.
"Abu Nidal's Advisers" Reportedly Training
"PKK & ASALA Militants" in Cyprus
Nicosia, Ankara, Tel Aviv. The Israeli secret service,
Mossad, is reported to have acquired significant
information in connection with the camps set up in the
Troodos mountains in Cyprus for the training of
militants of the PKK and ASALA {Armenian Secret Army for
the Liberation of Armenia}. According to sources close
to Mossad, about 700 Kurdish, Greek Cypriot and Armenian
militants are undergoing training in the Troodos
mountains in southern Cyprus. The same sources stated
that Abu Nidal's special advisers are giving military
training to the PKK and ASALA militants in the camps.
They added that the militants leave southern Cyprus for
Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Greece and Iran after completing
their training. Mossad has established that due to the
clashes which were taking place among the terrorist
groups based in Syria, the PKK and ASALA organisations
moved to the Greek Cypriot part of Cyprus, where they
would be more comfortable. They also transferred a
number of their camps in northern Syria to the Troodos
mountains.
Mossad revealed that the Armenian National Movement,
which is known as the MNA, has opened liaison offices in
Nicosia, Athens and Tripoli in order to meet the needs
of the camps. The offices are used to provide material
support for the Armenian camps. Meanwhile, the leader
of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine,
George Habash, is reported to have ordered his men
not to participate in the operations carried out
by the PKK & ASALA, which he described as "extreme
racist, extreme nationalist and fascist." Reliable
sources have said that Habash believed that the recent
operations carried out by the PKK militants show that
organisation to be a band of irregulars engaged in
extreme nationalist operations. They added that he
instructed his militants to sever their links with the
PKK and avoid clashing with it. It has been established
that George Habash expelled ASALA militants from his
camp after ASALA's connections with drug trafficking
were exposed.
Source: Alan Cowell, 'U.S. & Greece in Dispute on Terror,' The New
York Times, June 27, 1987, p. 4.
Special to The New York Times
ATHENS, June 26 - A dispute developed today between Athens and
Washington over United States intelligence reports saying that
Athens, for several months, conducted negotiations with the
terrorist known as Abu Nidal...
They said the contacts were verified in what were termed hard
intelligence reports.
Abu Nidal leads the Palestinian splinter group Al Fatah
Revolutionary Council, implicated in the 1985 airport
bombings at Rome and Vienna that contributed to the Reagan
Administration's decision to bomb Tripoli, Libya, last year.
In Washington, State Department officials said that when
Administration officials learned about the contacts, the
State Department drafted a strongly worded demarche. The
officials also expressed unhappiness with Greece's dealings
with ASALA, the Armenian Liberation Army, which has carried
out terrorist acts against Turks....
Serdar Argic | 6 | trimmed_train |
5,060 | On a Los Angeles radio station last weekend, the lawyers for the
family of the MURDERED rancher said that the Los Angeles Sheriff's
Department had an assessment done of the rancher's property before
the raid.
This strongly implies that the sheriff's department wanted the property;
any drugs (which were not found) were only an excuse.
In Viet Nam, Lt Calley was tried and convicted of murder because his
troops, in a war setting, deliberately killed innocent people. It is time
that the domestic law enforcement agencies in this country adhere to
standards at least as moral as the military's.
Greed killed the rancher, possibly greed killed the Davidian children.
Government greed.
It is time to prosecute the leaders who perform these invasions.
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6,187 | Can anyone help me?
I am having a problem displaying images greater than 32768 bytes from a
Decwindows program running on a Vax 6310, and displaying on a Sparc IPC
running Openwindows 3.0 and dni. The program works fine with Openwindows 2.0.
The code segment which fails is given below, the program simply crashes
out with an Xlib I/O error at the XPutImage() call.
XImage *ximage;
ximage = XCreateImage(myDisplay, DefaultVisual(myDisplay, myScreen),
ddepth, ZPixmap, 0, image,
xwid, ywid, 8, 0);
XPutImage(myDisplay, myWindow, myGC,
ximage, 0, 0, xpos, ypos, xwid, ywid);
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 16 | trimmed_train |
10,752 |
A good vocoder like ours will give you 8000 bits per second locked at
full rate (it's a variable rate voice activity vocoder). If you want
less quality, cut that to 4000 bps (half rate). At full rate variable
you could put two full-duplex conversations on a V.32bis modem. This
requires a DSP or ASICs, though. An RS-6000 has a CPU that could
probably do it in real-time, because it has the add-and-multiply
instruction and a few other DSP things.
If you want to do speech in real-time you need about 4000 samples a
second (for not very good voice) with your 8 bit samples (ISDN is 8000
8-bit samples a second), which is 32 kbps. You could do a fast 2:1
compression on that to get it down to 16 kbps, which is just about
V.32bis. The quality at this point is very bleah, but it should work.
Now add in the time for your encryption method. You're going to need
sampling hardware, which is no problem on a new Mac, an Amiga. Or a
PC with a SoundBlaster card (just because they're so popular and cheap
- you could also build a simple ADC). The problem with the
SoundBlaster is that it doesn't seem to be full duplex - you can't
sample and play backq at the same time, making a two-way conversation
a bit tough. The special hardware or a more capable sound card may be
required.
The only thing that worries me is that 2:1 compression - the
SoundBlaster can do it automatically in hardware, but other than that
I don't have a good feel for how processor intensive it is, so I can't
estimate how fast a PC you'd need.
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2,017 |
"Put not your trust in princes" is the Biblical proverb. The modern
analog is governments. At the time of the founding of the US, the
idea that citizens had rights above those of the government was not
that common, but was explicit in the writings of the founders. To a
considerable extent, Englishmen also had those rights.
Yes, times change, and technology changes. The possibility of
a few governments enserfing all of mankind was not possible until
quite recently. In the feudal system, the lord was almost as
restricted as the serfs, so having the people enserf themselves
does not make anything better; most feudal lords, and even most
slaveowners, did not mistreat those under them.
Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are under real attack NOW.
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5,353 | Andy Beyer has claimed that the Israeli Press is a bit biased.
But the fact is that there are events shaping the politics of the
mideast that people who do not read the Israeli press simply know
nothing about. Many of these events are not even mentioned here.
I read the Israeli press to learn of important events about which
you know nothing, because of your total reliance on western media
for your information on Israel. Since I read both American media
and Israeli media, I can say with absolute certainty that anybody
who reliesx exclusively on the American press for knowledge about
Israel does not have a true picture of what is going on. | 6 | trimmed_train |
103 |
Tests suck! Post a real message!
:^)
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899 |
Thank you, Brad/Ali, for warning us about the dangers of propaganda.
It's funny, though, coming from you.
Who is it that executes these "pin-point attacks" on Israelis? The
guys in the white hats or the ones in the black hats? Neither? You
mean that they are just civilians, farmers, teachers, school children?
Well, maybe they ARE terrorists, after all? And maybe that
"propaganda" was correct, too? Hmm?
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8,904 |
The joystick reads in anolog values through a digital port. How?
You send a command to the port to read it, then you time how long
it takes for the joystick port to set a certain bit. This time
is proportional to the joystick position. Obviously, since time
is used as a position, you cannot get rid of this ridiculus waste
of time. If you wrote your own routine instead of the BIOS, it
would speed it up some, but the time would still be there.
-- | 3 | trimmed_train |
728 |
Who compared Quayle to Gore? Mark said he had never heard of any incident
in which the thrower of the ceremonial ball had been booed before. I mentioned
another incident. (And if the media had a liberal bias, I'm sure he would
have heard of the Quayle incident.)
If I was to compare Quayle to anyone, it most likely would be Elmer Fudd.
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4,127 | Power lines and airplanes don't mix. In areas where lines are strung very
high, or where a lot of crop dusting takes place, or where there is danger
of airplanes flying into the lines, they place these plastic balls on the
lines so they are easier to spot.
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4,214 |
Not if you've scored four runs, you don't! Why strain even the best pitching
staff? Why not make it easier for them?
In the 2-1 game, the best pitching staff in the world can't compensate
for a blown call, a bad hop, a gust of wind. Winning close is the
wrong way to win; both keeping opposing runs down AND scoring a lot
yourself are insurance against the "Shit happens" aspect of baseball.
Not every great teamhas even *good* pitching. The Big Red Machine of
the 70's was league-average in pitching. But somehow, Rose-Morgan-Bench-
Perez-etc. managed to win 100 games more than once, peaking at 108. | 2 | trimmed_train |
4,061 |
From this account, it doesn't sound like you even saw the goal, Mike. Smith
came out from behind his own net and fired a breakout pass that hit Fuhr in the
back of the leg. Fuhr was backing up at the time and never saw what
happened. The puck went straight off Fuhr's leg and into the net. Fuhr never
had a chance. There was no play back to the goaltender, in fact Perry Berezan
of Calgary had just dumped it in and Smith was retrieving it.
It was unfortunate that it happened; Smith is a nice guy and was only a rookie
at the time, and on his birthday too. But all the blame lies with him. Starting
in pee-wee coaches tell players never to make a cross-ice pass in front of
their own net. Too much chance of having it intercepted, or hitting the
goaltender, or whatever.
And to the people who say that Smith cost the Oilers the series, I can only
say that he certainly didn't cause the team to lose the other three games.
There was no reason for a powerhouse team like Edmonton to be tied late
in the third period of the 7th game of the second round. Everybody on the team
has to take responsibility for them even being in that situation. | 17 | trimmed_train |
8,801 | PC-Xview from NCD, HCL-eXceed from Hummingbird Software! | 18 | trimmed_train |
10,056 | Suggestion: try "Exposing the New Age" by Douglas Groothuis.
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2,048 |
The first time I heard this piece of news was on the post game radio
interview here in Jyvaskyla. That was the bronze medal game in the
SM-liiga which Tichonov's team Porin Assat (the Aces of town Pori:)
lost. Vasili, the son of Victor Tichonov (the famous Soviet coach),
said that for a long time the Sharks have been persuading him to
take the assistant coach post. But he wants to be the head coach where
ever he goes. He definitely won't be coaching Assat anymore (after
three? seasons). I don't know why.
Vasili is a good coach I believe. Assat was a good team, produced many
players to our national team. Assat wasn't a skilled team (IMHO) but
they had the fighting spirit. After all, they butchered Jokerit in the
playoffs and gave hard time to TPS, the champs. But Assat wasn't
consistent, only when they were in the right mood they could beat any
team in the SM-liiga.
I am not 100% sure about the deal with the Sharks. As I said, he wants
to be the head coach. But he and the Sharks are going to negotiate and
decide during the WC. I doubt that he will be the head coach but
maybe they'll do some compromise. | 17 | trimmed_train |
220 |
Maybe I should point out that we are not talking about c.s.amiga.*.
Only comp.graphics. | 1 | trimmed_train |
5,853 |
I must respectfully disagree with this assertion, Brad. The government is
notoriously sloppy with physical, communications, and information security. They
can't keep their computers safe, and they're "trying". Read "DEA is
Not Adequately Protecting National Security Information" [GAO/IMTEC 92-31] for an
excellent example of what I'm talking about.
Private sector organizations tend to be even more lax in their security measures.
I believe that the escrow organizations will be penetrated by foreign
intelligence services within months, if not weeks, of their selection. Private
organizations that lack the resources of a full-fleged intelligence service will
take longer - perhaps on the order of one to two years. Nonetheless, the
penetrations will take place, without question. | 7 | trimmed_train |
5,539 | From another not-so-distressed-but-still-wondering-about-a-few-things
Cardinal fan:
He's not the greatest - this is true.
I saw it.
Lankford was hurt, although the announcer said he told Torre he
could pinch hit if they needed him to.
I wondered the same thing. But giving Joe the benefit of the
doubt, I'd say he was thinking that Lankford is hurt enough that
he didn't trust his ability to bat effectively but he wants his
speed on the bases so pinch run him. Alicea I was completely
confused about. Maybe he had a good record hitting against that
particular pitcher? I don't know. Anybody got an idea?
Well, so far I haven't seen much to say Whiten shouldn't be playing
but it is too bad that Gilkey is the odd man out when they play
Jordan ahead of him. That I don't quite understand.
Yup, I looked for this on the replay too. If I'm Joe Torre, I'm
going to have a talk with Bucky after the game on that one. He's
got Lankford at third with Todd Zeile I believe - a hot hitter -
coming up - there's no reason to risk giving Lankford the go sign
in that situation unless he was sure the ball is going to the stands.
It's his job to watch the play develop - he should have known Larkin
was there to back up a bad throw. That seemed inexcusable in my book.
BTW, I saw Dent do the same thing last year with Zeile rounding third
and going into a sure out at home in a critical situation. On the
replay, there's Dent waving him around. It looks like this might be a
serious problem. The Card's weren't good base runners at all last year
and I wonder how much of the fault lies in the base coaching.
Well, I'm still hanging in there.
GO REDBIRDS!! WOOF, WOOF!!!
Dick Detweiler | 2 | trimmed_train |
4,271 | THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 13, 1993
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT,
SECRETARY OF EDUCATION RICHARD RILEY AND
SECRETARY OF LABOR ROBERT REICH IN
GOALS 2000 SATELLITE TOWN HALL MEETING
Chamber of Commerce Building
Washington, D.C.
8:30 P.M. EDT
SECRETARY RILEY: Good evening and welcome to all of you
in the thousands of communities around the country that are taking
part in this satellite town meeting for the month of April.
You know, today is April 13th. In 1743, Thomas
Jefferson was born, 250 years ago. I think that's appropriate to
mention at the beginning of this meeting because since that time he
has been, of course, a person who has been one that we've all
followed in terms of our democracy and the importance of education
here in this great country. The success of our democracy according
to Jefferson really depends upon the success of our educational
system.
His philosophy of government, his belief in the
importance of education is also very meaningful to our special guest
here this evening. Tonight we're so pleased to have with us
President Clinton. He's come over from the White House to join us in
the Chamber of Commerce studios.
Mr. President, it's good to have you. We thank you for
taking the time to visit with these communities here on the satellite
network and we welcome you here this evening.
Also we have with us Secretary of Labor Robert Reich.
And, Bob, it's certainly pleasant to have you with us this evening
also.
I have some questions for our two guests, and I'm sure
many of you do, too. So please call us if there's something that
you'd like to ask. The number is 1/800/368-5781 or 5782. In
Washington, D.C. the number is 202/463-3170 or 3171.
I believe the President has a few words that he might
want to share with us. And, Mr. President, I'll ask you to do that
at this time. It's great to have you.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
I'm glad to be here with my friends, Dick Riley and Bob
Reich -- also members of my Cabinet -- at the headquarters of the
Chamber of Commerce to support the effort that the Chamber is making,
along with its Center for Work Force Preparation, to help to examine
tonight the whole critical question of how to move our young people
from school to the work place.
I want to compliment the Chamber on all their efforts,
recognizing that without an educated work force we can't grow this
economy or remain competitive, and recognizing that we all have to
work together -- business and government, labor and educators -- to
make things happen.
This satellite town meeting is a good example of that
kind of working together. And if you'll forgive me a little home
state pride, I want to say a special word of thanks to the Wal-Mart
Corporation, headquartered in Bentonville, Arkansas, for providing
several hundred of the sites for this town meeting tonight. I
appreciate that a lot, as well as the sites that are provided for all
the rest of you.
I have tried as hard as I could to move toward
constructive change for this country. Secretary Riley talked about
this being Thomas Jefferson's 250th birthday. If Thomas Jefferson
believed in anything, he believed in these three things: first, in
education; second, in real personal liberty, freedom of religion,
freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of the press; and
third, in the absolute imperative of changing as times change.
If you go to the Jefferson Memorial here in this
beautiful city, which is now bedecked with all of its wonderful
cherry blossoms, you will see Jefferson saying that we have to change
with changing times.
For us here in America, that means reducing our deficit
and increasing our investment and putting our people first so that we
can compete in the world. We're here to talk about that tonight --
about what we can do to educate and train our people better. Unless
we do that, none of the efforts that all the rest of us make in
government, even to bring the budget into balance, even to increase
our investment in other things which will grow jobs, will last in the
long run.
We also have to have people who can carry their load.
And in a world where the average young person will change jobs seven
or eight times in a lifetime, that begins with the education system
and continues into the work force where education must go on for a
lifetime. It's not just important what you know, but what you can
learn.
And if I might, I'd like to close just by emphasizing
we're doing our best to try to have the most innovative partnership
between the Labor Department and the Education Department and the
private sector to build a good school-to-work transition. And we're
trying to get off to a good start this summer with a program that
would create more than 700,000 new summer jobs, including many
thousands that have a strong education component so our young people
can be learning and working at the same time.
Dick, I think I ought to stop there. That's a good
place we can begin, I think, the discussion.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you so much, Mr. President.
Each month we get together and talk about ways that all
citizens can work towards reaching the national education goals. And
tonight, we'll focus on goal five, and how communities such as yours
can prepare students for this world of work.
This week, the Education Department and the Labor
Department are hosting a conference here in Washington, D.C. called
Summer Challenge, a program of work and learning, to America's youth.
The aim is to use some special funds from President Clinton's
proposed economic stimulus package to provide educationally-enriched
jobs and summer school programs for young people in disadvantaged
areas of the country.
Mr. President, let's talk a minute -- you alluded to it
somewhat -- about the Summer Youth Challenge. Your program calls
for more educational enrichment in the summer jobs. And why in your
words is that so important?
THE PRESIDENT: I think it's important for two reasons.
First of all, a lot of the young people we're trying to reach may
have had trouble adjusting to school and learning. And while we want
them to have a good experience with a real job, we also want them to
continue to learn during the summer because we know from a lot of
research that a lot of kids that have trouble learning in school may
forget as much as 30 percent of what they learned the previous year
over the summertime. And that is a very unproductive thing for
schools to have to take up a lot of time teaching what they already
taught before.
Secondly, we want to help these young people progress,
not only in terms of work, but in terms of learning. We want to
abolish the artificial dividing line between what is work and what is
learning because we think that the best and most productive workers
will have to be lifetime learners. And we think that this experience
could maybe drive that point home and prepare these young people to
succeed in school, or at work, or in college as they go on.
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, I think the fact that these are
disadvantaged kids -- that gap, that lag you mentioned as they go
into the next year, is really even greater.
Secretary Reich, of course, you have training programs
throughout the year. And I wonder is you have any comment about this
educational component of training.
SECRETARY REICH: Well, what we've learned, Mr.
Secretary, is that for many young people, whether it's for the summer
or for the year, actually on-the-job work experience combined with
education is one of the best ways of learning. Many young people,
for example, have a lot -- they have a difficult time learning
geometry. But when they actually are there building something or
working on something, and they can see the exact and direct
application of geometry, they understand what it's used for. And a
lot of young people -- just that sense of connection between
education and the world of work is terribly, terribly important.
It's important during the summer, but it's important for a lot of
young people even beyond the summer.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you.
Mr. President, you've called for a youth apprenticeship
program, school-to-work transition. And I wonder if you would tell
us a little bit about your concept of that and how you see it
developing.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, let's talk about why
it's important. Most new jobs that will be created in this decade
will not require a four-year college degree, but most of them will
require some learning and skills that go well beyond what most people
get in a high school diploma.
If you look at the last 10 years, the average salaries
of young people that had at least two years of good post-high school
education was a good salary that went up over the decade. The young
people who had less than that tended to have lower wages that did not
go up, and in many cases in real terms fell over the decade, because
they weren't productive, they weren't more valuable to their
employers.
So we think America has a big economic interest in
trying to ensure that all the young people who get out of high school
but don't go on to college make a transition to work, which includes
two years of further training either in a community college, a
vocational setting, or perhaps on the job. And what I have done in
this budget, as you know, is to give you and Secretary Reich some
funds and some incentives to try to work in partnership with states
and with the private sector to build these programs state-by-state in
a way that would be customized essentially by the business community,
based on the needs of the economy in any given area. It could
revolutionize long-term the quality of the American work force and
the earnings of American workers.
SECRETARY REICH: I should add, Mr. President -- I think
you know this from your experience in Arkansas -- and many of the
people watching this program -- that the business community and
educators, labor groups are already in many of our communities, many
of our states, building a school-to-work transition program. In
fact, there's an awful lot of ferment, a lot of excitement. The
people watching this program probably are the ones who are most
directly involved in that. And more power to them. Secretary Riley
and I are going to do everything we can to build on the successes
already out there.
SECRETARY RILEY: Bob, we're going to be talking tonight
about youth apprenticeship and tech prep, the co-op learning
career academies. And what features all those programs that deal
with this subject -- what are some of the features that every one of
these school-to-work programs might have that are important?
SECRETARY REICH: Well, one thing that we've seen -- and
you and I have been working at this for a long time, and you much
longer than I -- we've seen that active involvement of the business
community is absolutely essential. And I'm so delighted that we're
doing this in the headquarters of the Chamber of Commerce. The
Chamber of Commerce of the United States is committed to doing these
kinds of programs -- training, education, retraining -- and we've
aimed to work very closely with the Chamber.
The business community is going to be actively engaged
in developing almost an audit of the kind of jobs that are needed and
helping the educators, community colleges, technical institutions
develop curricula that are relevant for the jobs of the future.
Communities have got to come together. I mean, this is
one of the most important things. You've got to have all of these
players in a community come together and work together and cooperate
together. You know, too often we have the educators over here and
the business leaders over here, labor groups over here and everybody
is talking, but they're not really working together in a common
strategy.
And the third and final ingredient I would say, Dick,
would be a commitment to excellence -- a commitment both to academic
excellence and also to skills development excellence. This is not a
tracking program we're talking about for kids who are not going to
make it. This is a program that every young person ought to be
eligible for. If they want to go on beyond that to four-year
college, that's fine. That ought to be permissible. But we're
talking about the foundation of learning about jobs, the foundation
skills for on-the-job learning.
And again, those are the critical components. It's
already being done.
THE PRESIDENT: I think -- if I might just interject one
point based on my personal experience at home -- the business
community has a critical role to play, not simply in saying here are
the job skills that are needed and here's what ought to be taught,
but also in monitoring that excellence. If you have the right sort
of partnership there, the people who are paying the taxes and who are
going to then be hiring the workers are not going to permit the
second-rate programs to survive if they have any way to shape and
influence them. So I think that's very important.
And when we try to, if you will, fill in the blanks at
the federal level, trying to set some standards and provide some
funds, one of the things that we want to be sure and do is to make
sure that the employer has a heavy amount of influence over the
quality of these programs, because that's really what's going to
determine whether the whole thing is worthwhile.
SECRETARY RILEY: That's great. We've been talking, of
course, about school-to-work and also the jobs and economic recovery
program for this summer and fall. But let's talk just a moment about
long-term school reform. It's something especially close to me. Mr.
President, I wonder if you would give us some of your ideas for the
communities out here on Goals 2000 legislation that I think will be
coming forth before too long.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as you know, back when you and I
were both governors, we spent a lot of time working on our public
schools and we tried to be very candid with our people in saying that
a lot of these things were going to take some time to materialize.
I had a hand in writing the National Education Goals
that the governors drafted, along with representatives of President
Bush's administration back in 1989. And what we're going to try to
do this year with your leadership is to introduce legislation in
Congress that will actually define the things that the national
government ought to do to try to help the local schools and the
children of this country and the adult learners, too, meet those
goals -- making sure that when -- by 2000, people show up for school
ready to learn; that we get a 90 percent on-time high school
graduation rate; that children at the 4th, 8th, and 12th grades are
confident in the subjects they're supposed to know; that they are
second to none in math and science; that are schools are safe,
disciplined, and drug-free. And, of course, the fifth goal --I took
them out of line to say this the last -- is that we have a system of
life-long learning in this country.
And each one of those goals there's a national role, a
state role, a school role, school district role, and a private sector
role. And what you've attempted to do in this bill you're going to
introduce with me in the next few weeks is to define what our job is;
and then to give the rest of America a way of defining what their job
is and seeing whether we're actually meeting the standards of quality
that we need to meet.
It's very exciting. So far as I know, nothing quite
like it has ever been done in the form of federal legislation before.
Not mandating and telling people what they have to do with their
money, but actually setting up a framework for excellence and
partnerships so that we can do our job. I'm really excited about it.
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, I am, too. And I think really
it will be an entirely new role for the federal government in terms
of its relationship with states, serving as a partner really to
support and facilitate and to help out in these education reform
efforts, all driven by high standards. That's the point.
Bob, let me ask you one question, and then we'll get to
the telephone calls. It's about the same subject. We have, of
course, skills standards that are going to be part of Goals 2000, and
I wonder if you would comment on that.
SECRETARY REICH: Well, you know, we have 75 percent of
our young people who don't graduate from college. Very often they
don't have very many alternatives. They do have a wonderful system
of community colleges and technical institutions, but if we had
national skill standards to which they could aspire and which
employers would understand as a national credential, many of these
young people would actually find that they were much more eligible
for jobs.
Everybody doesn't have to go to college. Other
countries you have smaller proportions of their population going to
college, but you have a whole level of people who have certain
technical, preprofessional skills. We can do it in this country. If
you don't go to four-year college you're not a loser. And we want to
develop those national skill standards. We're going to be working
with the states, with the Education Department, with a lot of private
industry in developing those standards. And I think they will be the
kinds of things that enable our vocational and technical and other
institutions to rally around, as well as our business community.
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, that's great. Why don't we go
ahead and go to the telephone. We have a call, I see -- Mayor Bruce
Todd of Austin, Texas.
Q Yes, Mr. President and Mr. Secretary Reich and
Riley, we certainly appreciate the opportunity to join you today. We
have some dedicated professionals and volunteers here in Austin who
have heard what you have said and are very appreciative. Let me
simply say, amen to some of the comments made already. We agree with
much of the tone that the Clinton administration has taken, and are
very supportive.
We have been successful here in Austin of tripling our
summer employment program over the last four years. We expect to
have over 2,000 employed this year in the summertime; perhaps as much
as 3,500 with the federal assistance.
Much of the question that we had designed you have
answered in your opening comments, so we must be thinking alike. But
the question essentially involved what initiatives after Labor Day
would be appropriate. We know summertime is important. Year-round
is even more important. And what kind of initiatives at the federal
level might be proposed to meet the needs of the youth on a year-
round basis? And perhaps more importantly, how can families and the
local community be more involved using the federal initiative? That's
something that we believe is very important to success in this
effort.
SECRETARY RILEY: Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: I think I'll give everybody a chance to
answer the question, Bruce, but let me first thank you for calling,
and thank you for all the great work that you're doing in Austin.
I've seen some of it and I've always been very impressed.
First, with regard to the summer program, we hope we can
structure it in a way that will enable us to continue the summer
program and that will move a lot of these young people back into
schools under circumstances that might allow them to do some work in
the private sector, too. We hope that -- Secretary Reich is going to
try to set up a system where we create a lot of private sector jobs
to be matched with the public sector jobs this summer. And we're
working on that.
Secondly, in the program that I have presented to the
Congress over the next five years, what we are attempting to do is to
build in an amount of investment that's quite substantial for job
training programs, for school-to-work programs, all of which give
heavy, heavy weight to local community input -- just the question you
asked -- but do provide some federal investment dollars, which we
hope you can put with local dollars to keep people working and being
trained on a year-round basis.
And I will say again, to echo what Secretary Reich said
a moment ago, to try to break down the barrier between what is seen
as work and what is seen as learning. An awful lot of young people
actually have quite high IQs, but actually learn so much better when
they're doing than when they're reading or just listening. So we
hope that the community involvement part of it will be permanent, and
we hope that if the whole budget passes -- and we do have 200 budget
cuts and more than 200, actually, in the budget -- and some revenue
raisers, and some new money for education and training, that we'll be
able to do just what you seem to want based on your question.
Bob, do you want to say anything?
SECRETARY REICH: Well, you took most of the words out
of my mouth, Mr. President, as usual. But let me just add one thing,
and that is that one of the most important aspects of post-high
school for a lot of young people who are not going on to college, in
addition to the school-to-work program, simply is the availability of
jobs. And we've got to get this economy moving again, obviously.
It's terribly important to get this recovery program, to get the
economy back on track. That's sort of the prerequisite to everything
else. If we don't get the economy back on track -- we have -- I
think this is the 16th -- correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. President -- I
think is the 16th month we have had seven percent unemployment or
greater. This is a jobless recovery. A lot of those kids are going
to be getting out of school in June. And even if we did everything
right, they would have a very, very hard time getting jobs.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you both. Of course, Goals 2000
will be a permanent, long-term thing that will certainly reach into
next year. It will involve, if passed -- and we certainly hope it
will be -- action plans with every state where we can be working
together to reach for the goals in a number of different ways. And
then the state, with all the various school districts, a very
important part of that will be citizen and parent involvement. And I
think everybody will see a great energy out there, once we get that
moving.
The next call is Dr. Harry Heinemann, New York.
Doctor?
Q Good evening, Mr. Secretary. It is a pleasure to
be on with you this evening. As you may know, bridging the school
and work has been central to La Guardia's educational program since
its inception in the 1970s, and that includes the college, the two
alternative high schools that operate on our campus, and the linkages
we have forged with the local schools. We have found this to be an
extremely effective learning strategy.
And over the years, we've come to believe that there are
several principles that are very important in bridging the school and
work. And these include integrating theory in the classroom with
practice in the workplace, with providing all students early exposure
to careers, as well as providing opportunities for them to reflect
upon these experiences while they strengthen their skills; and
lastly, the critical role of the liberal arts, particularly in the
development of high performance competencies.
My question, then is: How can the general education
faculty and the academic curriculum be more closely integrated with
transition to work experience? And what mechanisms and strategies
can you suggest to achieve this integration?
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, thank you very much. I think --
and we'll get a response from you all on that, and very interesting
work going on there. We're going to have three people, our next
guests on the program this evening, that will be some specialists
in that area that you're speaking, and I'll certainly pass that on to
them and we can discuss it later.
You all care to comment -- any comments you might have?
THE PRESIDENT: I'd just like to say, if I might, one
thing. I want to reemphasize this and I don't think I'm being as
clear about it as I'd like, although I think at least one of the
people who will be on the second panel will be able to say it more
explicitly than I. I think this whole concept of applied academics
is very important. And I think that we have to basically abolish
what I consider to be a very artificial distinction between what is
vocational learning and what is academic learning.
I think we should keep the liberal arts going. I think
we should have a strong component for people who are in the
vocational program.
SECRETARY REICH: It seems to me that we also need to
rethink our entire tracking system, because a lot of these school and
work combinations are important for mainstream students. They're
important for all students. It's not just a special group of
students that needs them.
Some of the experiments that I've seen around the United
States -- Dick, I'm sure you've seen them as well -- are mainstream
experiments. They're mainstreaming all the students. At 11th and
12th grades they're giving them a combined work and school experience
and then a transition program. And again, the kids can either go on
to college if they want; they can go on to technical community; they
can go on to an entirely -- a large variety of possibilities and
career directions.
But we have to get away from the stigmatizing that often
goes on with young people who simply are doing job-related or work-
related work within the classroom, within our schools.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you, very much. I think that's
going to be the last call that we have time for. Mr. President, I
think you've got to move on to another matter, and I want to thank
you and Secretary Reich for being here. We appreciate your time and
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637 | Greetings and Salutations!
I would like to get in touch with people who
(a) consider themselves Christians (you define it), and
(b) are in the Martial Arts
Some topics for discussion:
- your particular martial art
- your view of the relationship between
Christianity and your art
- your view of the relationship between
*your* Christianity and your art
- why should a Christian participate in MA
- why shouldn't a Christian participate in MA
- Biblical views of MA; pro or con.
For example, I heard from one fellow:
"...I tried the Karate for Christ thing and it wasn't for me..."
- why or why not?
As an aside, I am involved (in *NO* official way) with an
organization called the Christian Black Belt Association and
I would also like to distribute info regarding upcoming events
to *those who are interested*. No, you won't be put on any
"mailing list" nor will your name be "sold".
However, if you ARE intested in an email list, let me know.
I am interested in email replies ONLY as this is cross-posted
to groups I don't normally read. If anyone wants a summary
or, of course, on-going discussion, then let me know.
Shalom,
Robert Switzer
[email protected] | 0 | trimmed_train |
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