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[ etc. ] Hey, he's the only manager so far to lead the Seattle Mariners to a winning season, out of, what, fifteen? Give him some credit for that. -- dave -- /''' The Machman [email protected] david c carroll c-OO \ "Big Science. Hallelujah"
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I have the a CD-Technology drive with the Toshiba mechanism, and it is supposedly the fast and best now. It has an access of 200ms and a data transfer rate 300Kb/sec. It is multisession photo-cd compatible. It is available from educorp for $599, the CD-Technology one, and comes with two mail in coupons for two free CDs. I'm not sure if the cd's are good, since I've only had the drive a little less than a month and had the cd's shipped to my home address in california instead of here in maryland. The CD-technology drive has a separate power supply separated from the drive, which supposedly gives it a longer life, and keeps it cleaner with no fan to attract dust. A Toshiba brand drive is also available, but I think the CD-Technology is better, since you get the same mechanism, and at a slightly lower price with two free CDs. The Apple 300/330i Drive, Sony Mechanism, is around a 300ms access time I think, and a data transfer rate of 300Kb/sec. I know it is the slowest of the three mentioned here. It is not widely available, except through the apple catalog, which is bad at a price of only $599. It is also multi-session photo cd compatible. I think the external model comes with 7 free cds, some of which are pretty good. The NEC drive has been out the longest. it has an access time of 280ms and a data transfer rate of 300Kb/sec. it is available from many vendors around $600 dollars, including Educorp. It wasn't multi-sesssion photo-cd compatible before, but I hear that the current version that is shipping is. Owners of the older drives can get an upgrade. It does not come with any free cd's unless you buy it in a bundle. Of the three CD-Rom drives above, i think the best choices would be the Apple drive and the CD-technology(toshiba) drive. The apple drive for it's compatibility with apple products and the cd-technology(toshiba) for it's speed and performance. BTW, the models of the drives are: Apple: AppleCD 300 or AppleCD 300i (internal) CD-Technology: CD-T3401 (the Toshiba brand name model I'm not sure, but it is also something like with 3401) NEC: CDR-74 I'm very happy with my drive. And have had no compatibility problems whatsoever. If I am wrong about any of the above, do correct me, but I am pretty sure of myself, even when I think I'm not. Also, some of you out there might notice that I have the same last name as the president of CD-Technology which happens to be in southern california, my hometown. However, I AM NOT a relative nor do I know the guy. Liu is just a common chinese name, especially in southern california, with the enormous chinese community. Besides, one of my doctors in california has three Steve Liu's as patients and another Steve Liu comes to my school and lives in the next dorm. This is to show that Liu is very common. Steve :-)
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I'm curious about this statement, is it a known understanding amongst Christian believers that people who don't understand the Christian doctrines are enjoying this state? I come from a background with a heavy Christian teaching (Lutheran church), and consider myself knowledgeable with the basic understandings of Christianity. At the same time I'm *not* proud of things I don't understand or know of at this point of time. Ignorance is not bliss! Cheers, Kent
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Douglas Adams once said (paraphrased from memory): "I just picked it. It seemed like the sort of number you wouldn't be afraid to take home to meet your parents. Nice and even, perfectly normal."
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Also photoshopII is out soon, has anyone got a date and any cofmments? Andy _______________________________________________________ | Andrew Leahy | [email protected] | Odd FROG | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I am working on a project where we are going to be including both still and moving grapics within a database. Of course JPEG and MPEG come to mind as the formats of choice for the various files. However, from what I read on the Net, it seems as if there are several different forms of each of these. What I want to do, is settle on a file format which I can count on as being a standard format 10 years from now. I know Apple is going to support Quicktime on the new Power PC's and, so this may be the format of choice. What format does Apple's Quicktime use for their products? I guess it is some kind of MPEG for their motion picture. Is it any different than standard MPEG files? Thanx for any info!
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Monthly posting regarding the Buick Grand National / Regal T-Type mailing list. This list is for owners and other parties interested in the 82-87 Buick Grand Nationals, Regal T-Types, GNXs, and other turbocharged Regals. Discussions include technical information and parts sources. Particular emphasis is given to performance enhancements and racing. To join, or ask, about the mailing list, contact: [email protected]
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I have bad luck and got a VD called <Granuloma ingunale>, which involves the growth of granules in the groin. I found out about it by checking medicine books and I found the prescriptions. And I know I can just go to a clinic to get it cured. BUT unfortunately I am serving my duty in the army right now and I think it's impossible to prevent anyone from knowing this if I take leaves every day for two weeks for treatment. Thus I bought the prescribed tablets at some drugstore, but to cure it I must get INJECTION of <Streptomycin>, with a dose of 1g every 12 hours, for at least 10 days. I can probably buy the tools and this solution somewhere but I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO INJECTION BY MYSELF ! Can any kind people here tell me: If it's possible to do it? Can I do it on my arm? or it must be done on the hip only?? Any info is welcome and please write me or post your help SOON!! (I am already taking the tablets ..and I can't wait!!) Please don't flame me for posting this, and don't judge me. I've learned a lesson and all I need now is REAL MEDICAL HELP.
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: medtronic.COM (Dale M. Skiba) entirely missed my point in my previous : COMMENT: : Shortly after that post, I realized two things: I was running a fever of : over 102, and that I probably should not have gone directly from reading : alt.slack to posting on this august newsgroup. : >: >it is not ad hominen to point out that Mr Archer willingly prints blatant : >: lies : >: >in defense of Bible inerrancy, and thus is worthless as an expert witness. : >: Okay, Im game, give us a listing of blatant lies from _Encyclopedia of : >: Biblical Difficulties_ or other Archer writings. : >That would be interesting. If only a very short list can be generated, : >I think it is more likely that Mr. Archer, with his inerancy mindset is : >not always impartial and made a doozy of a mistake. (IMHO I also think : >that this mindset tends to generate these sorts of mistakes...) : >On the other hand, if a long list can be generated, it is more likely : >that Mr. Archer intentionally uses deception in hs books. (Why should : >he be deceptive just with Tyre?) : So, Archer is just sitting around, rubbing his hands and plotting how next : to deceive? OK, lets _see_ the list... This was an open question. I assumed that if Mr. Archer is a chronic liar, someone whould have documented it. This assumption is based on how talk.origins regulars have documented numerous cases of Creationist deceptions (such as Duane Guish and his friends). No long list of Archer mistakes has yet been given, so this may be just an isolated incident...
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I look at zApp and really liked it. However, I think you should wait for version 2.0 (I think it will be out soon).
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The San Francisco Examiner reports that Clinton has issued instructions to federal law enforcement that they may not kill or injure anyone to resolve the Waco situation. So they've built a fence around the compound, and are now seriously considering building up the fence to prison-camp levels, pulling out most of the manpower, and waiting however many months it takes.
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Auto Logic Panasonic answering machine with dual cassette system. I will include cassettes and AC power adaptor. Excellent condition. Asking $30 with accessories.
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But, you wouldn't know what red *was*, and you certainly couldn't judge it subjectively. And, objectivity is not applicable, since you are wanting to discuss the merits of red.
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You probably mean the mass murders of Jews in the West Bank between 1936-1939. Naftaly
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A friend's daughter has been diagnosed with an eye disease called "Star Gartds" (or something close) - it is apparently genetic, according to her, and affects every fourth generation. She would appreciate any information about this condition. If anything is available via ftp, please point me in the right direction..
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The interesting notion is that (I watched TV tonight) Koresh never claimed officially to be Jesus Christ. His believers hoped that he would be, but he never took this standpoint himself. He was more interested in breaking the seven seals of Revelation, and make sure that Armageddon would start. Well it did, and 19 children died, and no God saved them. Kent
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As it says in the subject, I am looking for a decent EGA or VGA monitor/card combo that is in working condition. The only thing is that it must be an 8-bit card. E-Mail all offers to: [email protected]
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Archive-name: atheism/resources Alt-atheism-archive-name: resources Last-modified: 11 December 1992 Version: 1.0 Atheist Resources Addresses of Atheist Organizations USA FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION Darwin fish bumper stickers and assorted other atheist paraphernalia are available from the Freedom From Religion Foundation in the US. Write to: FFRF, P.O. Box 750, Madison, WI 53701. Telephone: (608) 256-8900 EVOLUTION DESIGNS Evolution Designs sell the "Darwin fish". It's a fish symbol, like the ones Christians stick on their cars, but with feet and the word "Darwin" written inside. The deluxe moulded 3D plastic fish is $4.95 postpaid in the US. Write to: Evolution Designs, 7119 Laurel Canyon #4, North Hollywood, CA 91605. People in the San Francisco Bay area can get Darwin Fish from Lynn Gold -- try mailing <[email protected]>. For net people who go to Lynn directly, the price is $4.95 per fish. AMERICAN ATHEIST PRESS AAP publish various atheist books -- critiques of the Bible, lists of Biblical contradictions, and so on. One such book is: "The Bible Handbook" by W.P. Ball and G.W. Foote. American Atheist Press. 372 pp. ISBN 0-910309-26-4, 2nd edition, 1986. Bible contradictions, absurdities, atrocities, immoralities... contains Ball, Foote: "The Bible Contradicts Itself", AAP. Based on the King James version of the Bible. Write to: American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 140195, Austin, TX 78714-0195. or: 7215 Cameron Road, Austin, TX 78752-2973. Telephone: (512) 458-1244 Fax: (512) 467-9525 PROMETHEUS BOOKS Sell books including Haught's "Holy Horrors" (see below). Write to: 700 East Amherst Street, Buffalo, New York 14215. Telephone: (716) 837-2475. An alternate address (which may be newer or older) is: Prometheus Books, 59 Glenn Drive, Buffalo, NY 14228-2197. AFRICAN-AMERICANS FOR HUMANISM An organization promoting black secular humanism and uncovering the history of black freethought. They publish a quarterly newsletter, AAH EXAMINER. Write to: Norm R. Allen, Jr., African Americans for Humanism, P.O. Box 664, Buffalo, NY 14226. United Kingdom Rationalist Press Association National Secular Society 88 Islington High Street 702 Holloway Road London N1 8EW London N19 3NL 071 226 7251 071 272 1266 British Humanist Association South Place Ethical Society 14 Lamb's Conduit Passage Conway Hall London WC1R 4RH Red Lion Square 071 430 0908 London WC1R 4RL fax 071 430 1271 071 831 7723 The National Secular Society publish "The Freethinker", a monthly magazine founded in 1881. Germany IBKA e.V. Internationaler Bund der Konfessionslosen und Atheisten Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany. IBKA publish a journal: MIZ. (Materialien und Informationen zur Zeit. Politisches Journal der Konfessionslosesn und Atheisten. Hrsg. IBKA e.V.) MIZ-Vertrieb, Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany. For atheist books, write to: IBDK, Internationaler B"ucherdienst der Konfessionslosen Postfach 3005, D-3000 Hannover 1. Germany. Telephone: 0511/211216 Books -- Fiction THOMAS M. DISCH "The Santa Claus Compromise" Short story. The ultimate proof that Santa exists. All characters and events are fictitious. Any similarity to living or dead gods -- uh, well... WALTER M. MILLER, JR "A Canticle for Leibowitz" One gem in this post atomic doomsday novel is the monks who spent their lives copying blueprints from "Saint Leibowitz", filling the sheets of paper with ink and leaving white lines and letters. EDGAR PANGBORN "Davy" Post atomic doomsday novel set in clerical states. The church, for example, forbids that anyone "produce, describe or use any substance containing... atoms". PHILIP K. DICK Philip K. Dick Dick wrote many philosophical and thought-provoking short stories and novels. His stories are bizarre at times, but very approachable. He wrote mainly SF, but he wrote about people, truth and religion rather than technology. Although he often believed that he had met some sort of God, he remained sceptical. Amongst his novels, the following are of some relevance: "Galactic Pot-Healer" A fallible alien deity summons a group of Earth craftsmen and women to a remote planet to raise a giant cathedral from beneath the oceans. When the deity begins to demand faith from the earthers, pot-healer Joe Fernwright is unable to comply. A polished, ironic and amusing novel. "A Maze of Death" Noteworthy for its description of a technology-based religion. "VALIS" The schizophrenic hero searches for the hidden mysteries of Gnostic Christianity after reality is fired into his brain by a pink laser beam of unknown but possibly divine origin. He is accompanied by his dogmatic and dismissively atheist friend and assorted other odd characters. "The Divine Invasion" God invades Earth by making a young woman pregnant as she returns from another star system. Unfortunately she is terminally ill, and must be assisted by a dead man whose brain is wired to 24-hour easy listening music. MARGARET ATWOOD "The Handmaid's Tale" A story based on the premise that the US Congress is mysteriously assassinated, and fundamentalists quickly take charge of the nation to set it "right" again. The book is the diary of a woman's life as she tries to live under the new Christian theocracy. Women's right to own property is revoked, and their bank accounts are closed; sinful luxuries are outlawed, and the radio is only used for readings from the Bible. Crimes are punished retroactively: doctors who performed legal abortions in the "old world" are hunted down and hanged. Atwood's writing style is difficult to get used to at first, but the tale grows more and more chilling as it goes on. VARIOUS AUTHORS "The Bible" This somewhat dull and rambling work has often been criticized. However, it is probably worth reading, if only so that you'll know what all the fuss is about. It exists in many different versions, so make sure you get the one true version. Books -- Non-fiction PETER DE ROSA "Vicars of Christ", Bantam Press, 1988 Although de Rosa seems to be Christian or even Catholic this is a very enlighting history of papal immoralities, adulteries, fallacies etc. (German translation: "Gottes erste Diener. Die dunkle Seite des Papsttums", Droemer-Knaur, 1989) MICHAEL MARTIN "Atheism: A Philosophical Justification", Temple University Press, Philadelphia, USA. A detailed and scholarly justification of atheism. Contains an outstanding appendix defining terminology and usage in this (necessarily) tendentious area. Argues both for "negative atheism" (i.e. the "non-belief in the existence of god(s)") and also for "positive atheism" ("the belief in the non-existence of god(s)"). Includes great refutations of the most challenging arguments for god; particular attention is paid to refuting contempory theists such as Platinga and Swinburne. 541 pages. ISBN 0-87722-642-3 (hardcover; paperback also available) "The Case Against Christianity", Temple University Press A comprehensive critique of Christianity, in which he considers the best contemporary defences of Christianity and (ultimately) demonstrates that they are unsupportable and/or incoherent. 273 pages. ISBN 0-87722-767-5 JAMES TURNER "Without God, Without Creed", The Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, MD, USA Subtitled "The Origins of Unbelief in America". Examines the way in which unbelief (whether agnostic or atheistic) became a mainstream alternative world-view. Focusses on the period 1770-1900, and while considering France and Britain the emphasis is on American, and particularly New England developments. "Neither a religious history of secularization or atheism, Without God, Without Creed is, rather, the intellectual history of the fate of a single idea, the belief that God exists." 316 pages. ISBN (hardcover) 0-8018-2494-X (paper) 0-8018-3407-4 GEORGE SELDES (Editor) "The great thoughts", Ballantine Books, New York, USA A "dictionary of quotations" of a different kind, concentrating on statements and writings which, explicitly or implicitly, present the person's philosophy and world-view. Includes obscure (and often suppressed) opinions from many people. For some popular observations, traces the way in which various people expressed and twisted the idea over the centuries. Quite a number of the quotations are derived from Cardiff's "What Great Men Think of Religion" and Noyes' "Views of Religion". 490 pages. ISBN (paper) 0-345-29887-X. RICHARD SWINBURNE "The Existence of God (Revised Edition)", Clarendon Paperbacks, Oxford This book is the second volume in a trilogy that began with "The Coherence of Theism" (1977) and was concluded with "Faith and Reason" (1981). In this work, Swinburne attempts to construct a series of inductive arguments for the existence of God. His arguments, which are somewhat tendentious and rely upon the imputation of late 20th century western Christian values and aesthetics to a God which is supposedly as simple as can be conceived, were decisively rejected in Mackie's "The Miracle of Theism". In the revised edition of "The Existence of God", Swinburne includes an Appendix in which he makes a somewhat incoherent attempt to rebut Mackie. J. L. MACKIE "The Miracle of Theism", Oxford This (posthumous) volume contains a comprehensive review of the principal arguments for and against the existence of God. It ranges from the classical philosophical positions of Descartes, Anselm, Berkeley, Hume et al, through the moral arguments of Newman, Kant and Sidgwick, to the recent restatements of the classical theses by Plantinga and Swinburne. It also addresses those positions which push the concept of God beyond the realm of the rational, such as those of Kierkegaard, Kung and Philips, as well as "replacements for God" such as Lelie's axiarchism. The book is a delight to read - less formalistic and better written than Martin's works, and refreshingly direct when compared with the hand-waving of Swinburne. JAMES A. HAUGHT "Holy Horrors: An Illustrated History of Religious Murder and Madness", Prometheus Books Looks at religious persecution from ancient times to the present day -- and not only by Christians. Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 89-64079. 1990. NORM R. ALLEN, JR. "African American Humanism: an Anthology" See the listing for African Americans for Humanism above. GORDON STEIN "An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism", Prometheus Books An anthology covering a wide range of subjects, including 'The Devil, Evil and Morality' and 'The History of Freethought'. Comprehensive bibliography. EDMUND D. COHEN "The Mind of The Bible-Believer", Prometheus Books A study of why people become Christian fundamentalists, and what effect it has on them. Net Resources There's a small mail-based archive server at mantis.co.uk which carries archives of old alt.atheism.moderated articles and assorted other files. For more information, send mail to [email protected] saying help send atheism/index and it will mail back a reply.
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I have a simple test. I take several people who can speak only one language (e.g. chinese, russian, german, english). Then I let the "gifted one" start "speaking in toungues". The audience should understand the "gifted one" clearly in their native language. However, the "gifted one" can only hear himself speaking in his own language. Works everytime. 8-) Perhaps I would believe the "gifted ones" more if they were glorifying God rather than themselves. Then perhaps we'd witness a real miracle. --
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I read sometime in the last couple of weeks, an article which desribed how to play PC sound through a soundblaster. I didn't save the article and all old articles have been purged from our system here. Would whomever posted the article detailing where to connect the wires please re-post? Specifically, I need to know where to connect wires from the PC speaker to the SB card.
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Well, it looks like the folks in soc.religion.islam have loosened up a bit and are discussing this topic as well as the banking/interest topic. A few books on the subject have also been mentioned in addition to the one you mentioned. These may be hard to find, but I think I may take a stab at it out of curiosity. I know the one film I saw on this subject was pretty weak and the only two quotes I have seen which were used to show science in the Koran (which I posted here) were also pretty vague. I suspect that these books will extrapolate an awful lot on the quotes they have. At least one poster on the Islam channel seems to have some misgivings about the practice of using the Koran to decide what is good science. I wonder if Islam has ever come up with the equivalent of the Christians "Creation Science" on any topic. It would be interesting to find a history of scientific interpretations of the Koran, to see if anyone used the Koran to support earlier science which has since been discarded. It is all too easy to look at science as it exists today and then "interpret" passages to match those findings. People do similar things with the sayings of Nostradamus all the time.
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Looking for PostScript or Tex version of a paper called: "PUBLIC-KEY CRYPTOGRAPHY" Written by: James Nechvatal Security Technology Group National Computer Systems Laboratory National Institute of Standards and Technology Gaithersburg, MD 20899 December 1990 The version I obtained is plain text and all symbolic character formatting has been lost.
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^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What kind of brainless clod posted the above garbage? Would they be so kind as to explain how this is "Clinton's" initiative, when it has been before Congress for "at least the past 6 months"?
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They were, and even if Washington might consider Patty a bust, I'd rework that trade in a minute. Druce has been a complete and utter bust here, only 5 goals.
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In soc.religion.christian you write: Note that the above type of prediction does not require a God to be made. An expert in a field can also predict things based on experience. Beware of predictions like "The volcano will erupt tomorrow!" Don't follow the preacher because of such statements that come true. Note also, that if I'm describing a (hypothetical) death of a friend as a result of his passion for fast motorcycles, I might say "his mother predicted he would die." Of course, his father may have said "he 'll make good money because of his hobby" and depending upon the final outcome of the situation I end up mentioning the one that's relevant. A reader down the road will get the impression that the mother or father had predicted accurately the event, when it was just a casual statement. Finally, on prophesies, note that there are many prophesies that can be fulfilled my people, often to fool believers. If I say, "Beware, the terminal will unexpectedly be shut off!" and then after 2 secs I turn it off (or have someone come out from another room and do it) there was no prediction. A similar situation arises with the establishment of the Jewish state. While pressing for it, prominent Jews argued that it was predicted that they'd have a state again, and that the time has come. (I've read this somewhere, but can't think of the source - if you can, please let me know.) In this case, the establishment of the state does not really fulfill the prophesy since the prophesy was used in order to push for the establishment of the state. Deciding what was truely a fulfillment of prophesy is very tricky. -leo
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hi guys like all people in this group i'm a fans of fractal and render sw my favourite are fractint pov & 3dstudio 2.0 now listen my ideas i'have just starting now to be able to use 3dstudio quite well so i'm simulating a full animation of a f1 grand prix unfortanatly just some lap(10?) i' m very interested about all kind of .prj .3ds and so on concerning about cars or parts of its (motors wheel ...) (dxf are good enough) does anyone have object to give me to complete my hard animation anyway any exchanges about object material project will be VERY APRECIATE!!!!! is there a ftp site where I can find its? i' m looking for .pov files too (i 'm interested about cpu time comparision rendering images on pov & 3dstusio) thank to all
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: 3DO is still a concept. : The software is what sells and what will determine its : success. Apparantly you dont keep up on the news. 3DO was shown at CES to developers and others at private showings. Over 300 software licensees currently developing software for it.
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HARD DRIVES: (all drives include manuals, warranty) ------------ Fujitsu 1.2 GIGabyte SCSI hard drive $1000 Quantum 240 MEG SCSI prodrive $350 Fujitsu 90 MEG SCSI hard drive $175 Apple "zero footprint" hard drive case with power supply $75 ACCELLERATED VIDEO: ------------------- Apple 8/24GC (accellerated) graphics card with software (init) Millions of colors, FAST! $700 HARDCOPY: --------- Apple Imagewriter II printer with spare print head (these aren't cheap) $300 FAX machine: 9600 baud with leather travel case and many other accessories $200 To discuss the purchase of any of these items, call John at (408) 268-1769 If you get the answering machine, please leave a message with your name and phone number, letting me know which piece you are interested in. John (408) 268-1769
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Hi all, I really thought that by now I would have seen something about this, but I haven't, so here goes: Last night on the evening news, the anchorperson said something to the effect that one of the SSRBs that was recovered after the recent space shuttle launch was found to have a wrench of some sort rattling around apparently inside the case. There was no elaboration as to where specfically the item was found, of what type of wrench it was, but the anchorperson did say something about a NASA official commenting that there would be an inquiry into how the thing got in the SSRB. Has anybody else on the net whose info sources may be better than mine heard anything about this? It seems rather weird.
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: I'm looking to buy a 17" monitor soon, and it seems that I can't decide what : monitor I should buy. I have a MAG 17S (this is a .25 dpi version and it using : a TRINITON tube) and a NANAO 560i in mind. Good luck finding an MX17S. When I was looking around back in December/January, Mag wasn't producing any because they couldn't get tubes from Sony. I asked when they expected to restart production as I was willing to wait a few months to get an MX17S but they said not any time soon. I wound up getting a T560i and am extremely happy with it. David
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A. Folks, do we have an FAQ on tinnitus yet? B. As a lo-o-o-ong time sufferer of tinnitus and as a neuroscientist who has looked over the literature carefully I believe the following are reasonable conclusions: 1. Millions of people suffer from chronic tinnitus. 2. The cause it not understood. 3. There is no accepted treatment that cures it. 4. Some experimental treatments may have helped some people a bit, but there have be no reports--even anecdotal--of massive good results with any of these experimental drugs. 5. Some people with chronic loud tinnitus use noise blocking to get to sleep. 6. Sudden onset loud tinnitus can be caused by injuries and sometimes abates or goes away after a few months. 7. Aspirin is well known to exacerbate tinnitus in some people. 8. There is a national association of tinnitus sufferers in the US. 9. One usually gets used to it. Especially when concentrating on something else the tinnitus becomes unnoticed. 10. Stress and lack of sleep make tinnitus more annoying, sometimes. 11. I'm sure those of us who have it wish there was a cure, but there is not.
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# |> > # |> >It is NOT a "terrorist camp" as you and the Israelis like # |> >to view the villages they are small communities with kids playing soccer # |> >in the streets, women preparing lunch, men playing cards, etc..... # |> >SOME young men, usually aged between 17 to 30 years are members of # |> >the Lebanese resistance. Even the inhabitants of the village do not # |> >know who these are, they are secretive about it, but most people often # |> >suspect who they are and what they are up to. These young men are # |> >supported financially by Iran most of the time. They sneak arms and # |> >ammunitions into the occupied zone where they set up booby traps # |> >for Israeli patrols. Every time an Israeli soldier is killed or injured # |> >by these traps, Israel retalliates by indiscriminately bombing villages # |> >of their own choosing often killing only innocent civilians. # |> # |> This a "tried and true" method utilized by guerilla and terrorists groups: # |> to conduct operations in the midst of the local populace, thus forcing the # |> opposing "state" to possible harm innocent civilians in their search or, # |> in order to avoid the deaths of civilians, abandon the search. Certainly the # |> people who use the population for cover are *also* to blaim for dragging the # |> innocent civilians into harm's way. # |> # |> Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover, Israel # |> should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with attacking # |> another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the other respects # |> innocent lives? # # Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are using # civilians for cover, are they not killing SOLDIERS in THEIR country? If the # buffer zone is to prevent attacks on Israel, is it not working? Why is it # further neccessary for Israeli guns to pound Lebanese villages? Why not just # kill those who try to infiltrate the buffer zone? You see, there is more to # the shelling of the villages.... it is called RETALIATION... "GETTING BACK" # ..."GETTING EVEN". It doesn't make sense to shell the villages. The least # it shows is a reckless disregard by the Israeli government for the lives of # civilians. Please clarify your standards for rules of engagement. As I understand it, Israelis are at all times and under all circumstances fair targets. Their opponents are legitimate targets only when Mirandized, or some such? I'm sure that this makes perfect sense if you grant *a*priori* that Israelis are the Black Hats, and that therefore killing them is automatically a Good Thing (Go Hezbollah!). The corollary is that the Hezbollah are the White Hats, and that whatever they do is a Good Thing, and the Israelis only prove themselves to be Bad Guys by attacking them. This sounds suspiciously like a hockey fan I know, who cheers when one of the players on His Team uses his stick to permanently rearrange an opponent's face, and curses the ref for penalizing His Side. Of course, when it's different when the roles are reversed.
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: A very simple question : it seems to me that the contraceptive : pill just prevents the ovule to nest in the vagina and forces it to : fall every month. But it does not prevent the fertilzation of the : ovule. Is it true ? If yes, is there a risk of extra-uterine : pregnancy, that is the development of the ovule inside the Fallopian : tube ? Actually that is not how the pill works, but it *is* how the IUD works. The oral contraceptive pill actually *prevents* ovulation from occuring by providing negatve feedback to the pituitary gland, and thus preventing the LH surge that normally occurs at the time of ovulation. With the IUD what happens is that fertilization may occur, but the device prevents implantation within the wall of the uterus (*not* the vagina).
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you need to massage few switches in your system.ini. in the virtual memory section, flip the 32bitaccess switch on and the associated driver (wdctl or some such) switch on. this will enable 32bit access, but be sure you can use it, as not all hard drives and controllers support it ! ...for seriously fast disk access: 1) throw out WINDOZE 2) install OS/2 i did this weekend - OS/2 is incredible. finally a REAL OS for the humble PC :)
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From article <[email protected]>, by [email protected] (Dances With Federal Rangers): It's you. Beemers have no EC (tm).
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IMHO... Clement, although he has a pleasant personality (aggravatingly pleasant in my opinion), is a terrible analyst, because he is almost alway wrong...the prototypical example being New Jersey's first goal last Sunday. I grew up with Dick Irvin doing color beside Danny Gallivan...I knew did Irvin, Dick Irvin was a friend of mine...Bill Clement you aren't any Dick Irvin. As long as the teams involved do not include the US national team or the New York Rangers, I'd take John Davidson over Bill Clement any day.
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Golgotha the whole process of the fall of man This was precisely my point. From a theological bent, those who lived immediately after the flood, such as Noah, Ham, his son Cush, and his son Nimrod had a much stronger appreciation of Divine wrath. They also had a stronger understanding of the True God. In fact, this immediacy was a cause of hardship for some, so much so that Atlas, who is seen with heavens resting on his shoulders. But this is not merely the physical heavens that he is lifting. It is to put God and the strict spirituality of His law at a distance, and thus he became the "Elevator of the heavens." This "god" made men able to "feel" as if heaven were afar off and "as if either the God of Heaven could not see through the dark cloud, or did not regard with displeasure the breakers of His laws." It is interesting to see that it was that was titled "Emancipator" or "Deliverer" or Phoroneus. It was Nimrod who invaded the patriarchal system and abridged the liberties of mankind, yet was worship for having given many benefits. He was a deliverer all right but not as we think of Christ as a Deliverer. One delivered from a conscious feeling of God's wrath, the other actually performed a delivery from Gods wrath and it is up to us to accept it as true. I don't see the problem. From the time of Adam, those who looked forward to the coming "Anointed One" and put their faith in the fact that it was God who was to do the provision, were accounted as righteous. But up to the Crucifixion, their sins were only covered, not taken away. Therefore, the dispensation of the Church views the accountability of sin the same, but see it as a completed action. Rom's makes it clear that it has always been salvation via faith and nothing else. I understand what you're trying to convey, but I don't think I'd lay hold of it because the scriptures do equate the eternality of the second death with the eternality of, say the Church ruling with Christ. Jn 17 tells us what eternal life is exactly, as you are correct that it is much more than non-cessation of consciousness. It depends upon your def of "lost." The elect were lost only in time as outside of time they had been chosen from the foundation of the world. Existentially we were all born "lost", but the "righteous" were "in Christ" and therefore never *assuredly* lost. Maybe this summer I could find time to put together a paper on it. I simply have to buy more books for myself, and these older books are very expensive. Either that or countless trips to the oriental museum. Couldn't agree with you more. Our understanding, of say eschatology, is clearly clearer than that of, say Isaiah. But that is not what I was referring to. No, I understand it as you have said. This was my point. Ah! This is it. This is the big question. However, I would say, again I think, that the best lie is one that has an appreciable amount of truth to it. Look at Satan's twist of God's Word when he coerced Eve. That is a very interesting study. >The similarity in the midst of great variety of Yes, that is my point. But it is a two edged sword. For some do not want the underlying reality to be revealed. They were not known as "mystery" religions for no reason. There was the public side of them and there was the private side, that was so protected that the initiates to an oath of death if they revealed that private side. That is why it is so hard to bring their teachings to light. The "Mystery of Iniquity" that we find in the Bible, correlates to this I think. The primary object of the mysteries was to introduce privately, little by little, under the seal of secrecy and sanction of oath, what it would not have been safe to openly profess was the true religion. Case in point today might be the Masons. (Just a note, that they too worshipped Osiris in Egypt, who can be traced to Nimrod, the "husband son.") No, I disagree with you here Gerry. I know what you're alluding to in that the church, primarily the RCC, did endorse Aristotelian philosophy into their worldview, but I would disagree with you that it originated in Greece. If you are a student of history, you will come to see that much of what Greece came to expound to the world as their original, was just an adulteration of that which they had taken from conquered countries. The soul is clearly mentioned and discussed at length in the Egyptian religions. As was the unity of God and also the trinity of God. See if you can find Wilkinson's "Egyptians." He really does a number on what the Greeks did to what they "pilfered" from the Egyptians. I'm not knocking Aristotle or Plato or any other Greek thinker. Its just that "there is nothing new under the sun."
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I am in the midst of designing a project which requires two motors and an LED illuminator driven with Pulse-width modulation. I'm using the 8751, and I understand that the -FB version has a programmable counter array that can essentially be set and forgotten to do the PWM. The problems is, that variant is difficult to come by. I need two or three of the D prefix (ceramic window) version for development, and then lots of the P prefix (plastic OTP) for later production. I've tried Avnet, Arrow, and Pioneer. They (might) have them, but I'm looking for samples at this point, and they're not too willing to provide them. I would buy them, but these vendors have $100.00 minimums. Any help is appreciated.
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...deleted lines... As I live in Sweden I remember the day perfectly well. We changed side 1967-09-03 (or 03-SEP-1967). I don't remeber the exactly time but it was in the night. (in the 'big' cities like Stockholm & Gothenburg all trafic was forbidden, exept busses and taxis, during the whole weekend.) The day was a Sunday and everything was prepared in before. Before the day we was told to follow the yellow lines on the road and after it was the white one that matters. The signs with arrows on was prepared with a 'left mode' label that was torn off that night to reveal the new right mode arrow. The year after Iceland also changed. About cars: Before the H-day (H as in "Hoegertrafik". "hoeger" is Swedish and stands for 'right') practically all cars already had their steering wheels on the left side. Even the imported cars from UK had the wheel on 'the right side'. At last we have cars with the wheels on the right side. :-) More contries that uses the left side is: Japan Tanzania (I think) New Zeeland How about South Africa? BTW. Some sais that the left side is the right side because Ivanhoe and other knights meet at the left when they fight in tournaments. :-) ...deleted lines...
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How do you figure that?? When Bryan Murray took over the Wings they were a pretty good team that was contending for the Stanley Cup but looked unlikely to win it. Now they are a pretty good team that is contending for the Stanley Cup but looks unlikely to win it. A truly great GM would have been able to make the moves to push the team to the upper echelon of the NHL and maybe win the Stanley Cup. A good GM (like Murray) can maintain the team's success but can't push them to the next level. In the history of hockey there have been several better GM's than Murray- way too many to name. Murray isn't even the best GM in the league today. He fails in comparison to Sinden, Sather, Savard, Caron, Fletcher and Quinn in my estimation. I can't imagine how Bryan Murray can be the best GM anyone has ever seen in hockey- unless they have seen VERY few GM's.
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Yes this is a common problem. The leaks occur through the seal of the taillights. Unfortunately, Ford has this with Most Probes and does not have a recall for it. Very dissatisfying to say the least. There is no drain holes that I know of. I used a margine tub to drain it Regretably I waited three months as I was short cash and they wouldn't fix it under warrantee. Then I paid dearly as it messed up my electrical system including a balance/motion sensor which is located near the fuel shutoff in the trunk. This resulted in my passive restraints malfunctioning--they would not retract. So I ended up paying about $200 to have the sensor replaced; $90 to have the tail lights resealed (they firts replaced the hatch gasket which I insisted was not the problem so they did not charge me for that when I proved to be right.); not to mention the water damage to the covers to the trunk/spare com partment and algae in the taillights. very annoying. Don't let the water problem go--get it fixed or you'll pay more later. Considering how common a problem it is I hope every one complains to Ford.
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I agree fully with the above statement and is *precisely* what I meant by my previous statements about Islam not being anarchist and the law not being _enforcible_ despite the _law_ being applicable. I disagree with this conclusion about the _applicability_ of the Islamic law to all muslims, wherever they may be. The above conclusion does not strictly follow from the foregoing, but only the conclusion that the fatwa cannot be *enforced* according to Islamic law. However, I do agree that the punishment cannot be applied to Rushdie even *were* it well founded. Certainly putting a price on the head of Rushdie in Britain is a criminal act according to Islamic law. Yes.
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Something about how Koresh had threatened to cause local problems with all these wepaons he had and was alleged to have. Someone else will post more details soon, I'm sure. Other News: Sniper injures 9 outside MCA buildling in L.A. Man arrested--suspect was disgruntled employee of Universal Studios, which is a division of M.C.A. QUESTION: What will Californians do with all those guns after the Reginald denny trial?
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To: [email protected] (Larry Margolis) From: [email protected] LM>>The rape has passed, there is nothing that will ever take that away. LM>True. But forcing her to remain pregnant continues the violation of LM>her body for another 9 months. I see this as being unbelievably cruel. Life is not a "violation". As for cruel, killing a living being solely because it exsist. That my friend is down right cold. Anthony * SLMR 2.1 * What's the difference between an Orange?
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What are the current products available to upgrade the resolution? Which ones support postscript? Any experiences with them, either good or bad? Is the quality difference really noticable?
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That's true. Israeli ID cards do not identify people as Israelies. Smart huh? Yes. There's one warhead in my parent's backyard in Beer Sheva (that's only some 20 miles from Dimona, you know). Evidence? I saw it! Yes. But unfortunately I can't give you more details. That's _secret_, you see. [...] You're welcome. Now, let me ask you a few questions, if you don't mind: 1. Is it true that the Center for Policy Research is a one-man enterprise? 2. Is it true that your questions are not being asked bona fide? 3. Is it true that your statement above, "These are indeed provocative questions but they are asked time and again by people around me" is not true?
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Hi Brad, I have two comments: Regarding your hope that the "occupation will end... belive that stiff resistance..etc. - how about an untried approach, i.e., peace and cooperation. I can't help but wonder what would happen if all violence against Israelis stopped. Hopefully, violence against Arabs would stop at the same time. If a state of non-violence could be maintained, perhaps a state of cooperation could be achieved, i.e., greater economic opportunities for both peoples living in the "territories". Of course, given the current leadership of Israel, your way may work also - but if that leadership changes, e.g., to someone with Ariel Sharon's mentality, then I would predict a considerable loss of life, i.e., no winners. Secondly, regarding your comment about the U.S. troops responding to "stiff resistance" - the analogy is not quite valid. The U.S. troops could get out of the neighborhood altogether. The Israelis could not. Just my $.02 worth, no offense intended. Respectfully,
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[ description of experiment deleted ] [ more deleted ] A few years ago a friend and I took some 256 grey-level photos from a 1 bit Mac Plus screen using this method. Displaying all 256 levels synchronized to the 60Hz display took about 10 seconds. After experimenting with different aperture settings and screen brightnesses we found a range that worked well, giving respectable contrast. The quality of the images was pretty good. There were no visible contrast bands. To minimize the exposure time the display program built 255 different 1 bit frames. The first contained a dot only for pixels that had value 255, the second only for pixels that had value 254, etc. These frames were stored using a sparse data structure that was very fast to 'or' onto the screen in sequence. Creating these frames sometimes took 5-10 minutes on that old Mac, but the camera shutter was closed during that time anyway. And yes, we wrote directly to the screen memory. Mea culpa. Our biggest problem was that small images were displayed in the top left corner of the screen instead of the center. It took an extra week to have the film developed and printed, because the processors took the trouble to manually move the all images into the center of the print. Who'd have guessed?
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There are also a couple or three places on West 45th between Fifth and Sixth. Harvey --
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I have to beg to differ on this point, as the batch file I use to launch cview cd's to the dir where cview resides and then invokes it. every time I crash cview, the 0-byte temp file is found in the root dir of the drive cview is on. just my $0.13, cb
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Wrong. I got two points, which were the 100% sample space on the show floor. By the previous quote, I guess I may drow a determinstic line? As unfair as it may seem, the difference between Chrysler and Toyota is that Chrysler needs to prove that it can build quality cars. Toyota can afford make a few small mistakes without hurting the image. After all, door seal failing on a 6-year old Stanza is not comparable to the same problem on a brand new Intreprid.
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I'm sorry about your friend. Really. But this anecdote does nothing to justify the "war on drugs". If anything, it demonstrates that the "war" is a miserable failure. What it demonstrates is that people will take drugs if they want to, legal or not. Perhaps if your friend were taking legal, regulated drugs under a doctors supervision he might not be in the position he's in now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...Dale Cook "Any town having more churches than bars has a serious social problem." ---Edward Abbey The opinions are mine only (i.e., they are NOT my employer's)
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With the popularity of minivans, the market room for station wagons is squeezed out. They are not as comfortable as sedan, and don't carry as much as the minivans. This is not to say nobody wants the wagon anymore. But the demand is certainly hampered by the minivan, and may not be economical to build a product for. Jason Chen
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KDKA has first rights to Pirates games, and will split probably 50-50 in conflicts; for Penguins games which are preempted, check out 102.5 WDVE FM (that's right, DVE). It is also 50,000 watts.
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Herman, I would think you of all people would/could distinguish between "health" and "treatment of disease." All the prevention medicine people preach this all the time. You cannot buy health. You can buy treatment of disease, assuming you are lucky enough to have a disease which can be treated. A rich person with a terminal disease is a bit out of luck. There is no such thing as "adequately covered" and there never will be. And for what it's worth, I'll be the first to admit that all my patients die.
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Zero to very fast very quickly... lastest rumor is 115 hp at the rear wheel, handles like a dream in a straight line to 80-100, and then gets a tad upset according to a review in Cycle World... cornering, er well, you can't have everything... Seriously, handling is probably as good as the big standards of the early 80's but not compareable to whats state of the art these days. All this gleemed from reviews and discussions with owners. I too lust after this bike.
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SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THESE BOOKS!!!!! I AM NOT ASKING MUCH!!!!!! LIQUIDATION!!!!!! Send me your offer! No reasonable offer refused! First come first served! I JUST WANT TO GET RID OF THESE BOOKS!!! JUST MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!!! * Calculus w/ Analytic Geometry by Authur B. Simon (copyright date 1982), below avg condition but still readable! Give me $8 (shipping incl) and its yours! * Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith. $12 (shipp incl) * General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth edition. Big Book! (this book + following 2 books $20 for all 3!!) * Solutions manual for Chemistry book. * Study guide for Chemistry book. Send me your offers via email at [email protected]
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i would like to remind my jewish colleague mzm that much of the stories of the holocaust (including the ones in the u.s. holocaust memorial museum) were *not* eaten up by some of the papers. we just have to wait to build muesums for it..
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it may be a little late to reply to your tirade and also on an inaapropriate board but along with all of the so called great things the white male has done they have also contributed to society by means of mass genocide, the theft of ideas and cultures, creating and the perptration of historical lies throughouttime among many other horrible activities. but every culture has its upside and its downside. it seems to me that the white male (must be extremely ignorant to qualify for the following - if you're not disregard) and western culture are the only things that look to actively classify things as good or bad, worthy or unworthy (ya dig) it can be seen with slavery and the manipulation and destruction of the american indians civilization. nothing but selfish acts that benefit one group of people (and not even their women get or got respected or regarded as equal - ain't that some stuff) white men - not being specific - but in a lot of cases are just wack or have wack conceptions of how the world is to serve their purpose. just look at david koresh - throughout history (i may be shortsighted on this one so excuse my predjudiced ignorance) only white men associate themselves withbeing GOD. no other culture is ignorant or arrogant enough to assume such a position. and then to manipulate and mislead all those people. hmmm... i'd say look in your history books but since it seems that history has been written to glorify the exploits of white men you'd only find lies. awww that's enough already from me because this has nothing to do with sex or this board. if ya'd like to continue this discussion e-mail me and we can compare and contrast ideas i like conflict - it's educational when the communcation is good...................... my $.02 worth (i apologize to those who thought this was going to be about SEX but i was prompted by a response i found up here)
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[With Frank's permission, I have added some information here (and in one case changed the order of his contributions) in order to clarify the historical relationship of the views. My comments are based primarily on William Rusch's historical summary in "The Trinitarian Controversy", Fortress. I'm going to save this as an FAQ. --clh] MAJOR VIEWS OF THE TRINITY [SECOND CENTURY The writers of the 2nd Cent. are important, because they set up much of the context for the later discussions. Justin Martyr, Aristides, Athenagoras, Tatian, and Theophilus of Antioch are known as the "Apologists". Their theology has often been described as "Logos theology". Based strongly on wording in John, they took more or less a two-phase approach. Through eternity, the Logos was with the Father, as his mind or thought. This "immanent Word" became "expressed" as God revealed himself in history, ultimately in Jesus. Thus Jesus' full distinction from the Father only became visible in history, though the Logos had been present in God from eternity. Rusch regards this view is containing many of the emphases of the final orthodox position, but in a form which is less sophisticated, because it did not have the technical language to properly deal with the eternal plurality in the Godhead. Irenaeus held views somewhat similar to the Apologists. However he was uncomfortable with the two-stage approach. He still viewed God as one personage, with distinctions that did not become fully visible except through his process of self-revelation (the "economy"). The distinctions are present in his essential nature. Irenaeus emphasized the Holy Spirit more than the Apologists. Irenaeus' views should probably be called "economic trinitarianism", though that term is normally used (as below) to refer to later developments. THIRD CENTURY --clh] Dynamic Monarchianism Source: Theodotus Adherents: Paul of Samosota, Artemon, Socinus, Modern Unitarians Perception of God's Essence: The unity of God denotes both oneness of nature and oneness of person. The Son and the Holy Spirit therefore are consubstantial with the Father's divine essence only as impersonal attributes. The divine dunamis came upon the man Jesus, but he was not God in the strict sense of the word. Perception of God's Subsistence: The notion of a subsistent God is a palpable impossibility, since his perfect unity is perfectly indivisible. The 'diversity' of God is apparent and not real, since the Christ event and the work of the Holy Spirit attest only to a dynamic operation within God, not to a hypostatic union. Asignation of Deity/Eternality: Father: Unique originator of the universe. He is eternal, self-existent, and without beginning or end. Son: A virtuous (but finite) man in whose life God was dynamically present in a unique way; Christ definitely was not deity though his humanity was deified. Holy Spirit: An impersonal attribute of the Godhead. No deity or eternality is ascribed to the Holy Spirit. Criticism(s): Elevates reason above the witness of biblical revelation concerning the Trinity. Categorically denies the deity of Christ and of the Holy Spirit, thereby undermining the theological undergirding for the biblical doctrine of salvation. [In summary, this probably best thought of as not being Trinitarianism at all. God is an undifferentiated one. Son and Holy Spirit are seen as simply names for the man Jesus and the grace of God active in the Church. --clh] Modalistic Monarchianism Source: Praxeas Adherents: Noatus, Sabellius, Swedenborg, Scleiermacher, United Pentecostals (Jesus Only) Perception of God's Essence: The unity of God is ultra-simplex. He is qualitatively characterized in his essence by one nature and person. This essence may be designated interchangeably as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are different names for but identical with the unified, simplex God. The three names are the three modes by which God reveals Himself. Perception of God's Subsistence: The concept of a subsistent God is erroneous and confounds the real issue of the phenomenon of God's modalistic manifesting of himself. The paradox of a subsisting "three in oneness" is refuted by recognizing that God is not three persons but one person with three different names and corresponding roles following one another like parts of a drama. Asignation of Deity/Eternality: Father: Fully God and fully eternal as the primal mode or manifestation of the only unique and unitary God Son: Full deity/eternality ascribed only in the sense of his being another mode of the one God and identical with his essence. he is the same God manifested in temporal sequence specific to a role (incarnation). Holy Spirit: Eternal God only as the tile designates the phase in which the one God, in temporal sequence, manifested himself pursuant to the role of regeneration and sanctification. Criticism(s): Depersonalizes the Godhead. To compensate for its Trinitarian deficiencies, this view propounds ideas that are clearly heretical. Its concept of successive manifestations of the Godhead cannot account for such simultaneous appearances of the three persons as at Christ's baptism. [Rusch comments that evidence on these beliefs is sketchy. There are actually two slightly different groups included: Noetus and his followers, and Sabellius. Noetus was apparently more extreme. Sabellius followed him, and attempted to use some features of economic Trinitarianism to create a more sophisticated view. Unfortunately, information about Sabellius comes from a century later, and there seems to be some confusion between him and Marcellus of Ancyra. --clh] [I've moved the following description to be with the other third-century views. It originally appeared near the end. --clh] "Economic" Trinitarianism Source: Hippolytus, Tertullian Adherents: Various "neo-economic" Trinitarians Perception of God's Essence: The Godhead is characterized by triunity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the three manifestations of one identical, indivisible substance. The perfect unity and consubstantiality are especially comprehended in such manifest Triadic deeds as creation and redemption. Perception of God's Subsistence: Subsistence within the Godhead is articulated by means of such terms as "distinction" and "distribution" dispelling effectively the notion of separateness or division. Asignation of Deity/Eternality: The equal deity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is clearly elucidated in observation of the simultaneous relational/operational features of the Godhead. Co-eternality, at times, does not intelligibly surface in this ambiguous view, but it seems to be a logical implication. Criticism(s): Is more tentative and ambiguous in its treatment of the relational aspect of the Trinity. [Note that this is a development of the Apologists and Irenaeus, as mentioned above. As with them, the threeness is visible primarily in the various ways that God revealed himself in history. However they did say that this is a manifestation of a plurality that is somehow present in the Godhead from the beginning. Tertullian talks of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as being three that are one in substance. Many people regard this view as being essentially orthodox, but with less developed philosophical categories. --clh] [Origen, developing further an approach started by Clement, attempted to apply neo-Platonism to Christian thought. He set many of the terms of the coming battle. In Platonic fashion, he sees the Son as a mediator, mediating between the absolute One of God and the plurality of creating beings. The Son is generated, but he is "eternally generated". That is, the relationship between Father and Son is eternal. It cannot be said that "there was once when he was not" (a phrase that will haunt the discussion for centuries). Having the Son is intrinsic to his concept of God. The Father and Son are described as separate "hypostases", though this may not have quite the meaning of separate subsistence that it had in some contexts. The union is one of love and action, but there is some reason to think that he may have used the term homoousios ("of the same substance"). The Holy Spirit is also an active, personal substance, originated by the Father through the Son. Origen's intent is trinitarian, not tritheistic, but he pushes things in the direction of separateness. FOURTH CENTURY --clh] Subordinationism [often called Arianism --clh] Source: Arius Major Adherents: Modern Jehovah's Witnesses, and several other lesser known cults Perception of God's Essence: The inherent oneness of God's nature is properly identifiable with the Father only. The Son and the Holy Spirit are discreet entities who do not share the divine essence. Perception of God's Subsistence: The unipersonal essence of God precludes the concept of divine subsistence with a Godhead. "Threeness in oneness" is self- contradictory and violates biblical principles of a monotheistic God. Asignation of Deity/Eternality: Father: The only one, unbegotten God who is eternal and without beginning. Son: A created being and therefore not eternal. Though he is to be venerated, he is not of the divine essence. Holy Spirit: A nonpersonal, noneternal emanation of the Father. He is viewed as an influence, an expression of God. Deity is not ascribed to him. Criticism(s): It is at variance with abundant scriptural testimony respecting the deity of both Christ and the Holy Spirit. Its hierarchial concept likewise asserts three essentially separate persons with regard to the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit. This results in a totally confused soteriology. [Note also that in most versions of this view, the Son is not fully human either. He is supernatural and sinless. That distinguishes this view from adoptionism. --clh] Orthodox Trinitarianism Source: Athanasius Adherents: Basil, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory of Nazianzus, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Luther, Calvin, Contemporary orthodox Christianity Perception of God's Essence: God's being is perfectly unified and simplex: of one essence. This essence of deity is held in common by Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The three persons are consubstantial, coinherent, co-equal, and co- eternal. Perception of God's Subsistence: The divine subsistence is said to occur in three modes of being or hypostases. As such, the Godhead exists "undivided in divided persons." This view contemplates an identity in nature and cooperation in function without the denial of distinctions of persons in the Godhead. Asignation of Deity/Eternality: In its final distillation, this view unhesitatingly sets forth Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as co-equal and co-eternal in the Godhead with regard to both the divine essence and function. Criticism(s): The only shortcoming has to do with the limitations inherent in human language and thought itself: the impossibility of totally describing the ineffable mystery of "three in oneness." [At least in the 4th Cent, there were several different approaches, all of which fit the description here, and all regarded as orthodox, but which are somewhat different in detail. Nicea was originally held to respond to Arius. Arius can be thought of as carrying Origen's thought a bit too far, to the point of making the Son a separate entity. In general the East tended to take an approach based on Origen's, and it was hard to get acceptance of Nicea in the East. Its final acceptance was based on the work of Athanasius with the Cappadocians: Gregory of Nyssa and Gregory of Nazianzus, among others. While starting with three, they show that their unity in nature and and action is such that one must think of them as being a single God. This allowed the Council of Constantinople, in 381, to get wide agreement on the idea of three hypostatese and one ousia. --clh] Adapted from _Charts of Christian Theology and Doctrine_, by H. Wayne House. Frank
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Hi all, Due to living in the Bay Area, I as unable to see Vancouver's victory over the Jets last night. I know the score, but that rarely describes the game. Could someone please post a brief sonapsis (sp?) of waht happened. How well did each team play? Were the cannucks deserving of the victory? Also, could some kind soul please email me the end of season, individual player stats? Greg
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As quoted from <[email protected]> by [email protected] (Kenneth D. Whitehead): There were some significant differences. Whereas the Branch Davidians are reported to have gotten along rather well with their neighbors, the MOVE people are generally conceded to have gone far out of the way to antagonize their BLACK neighbors, using loudspeakers to all hours of the night, keeping large piles of garbage, promoting rat and insect infestation, and allegedly threatening to kidnap their neighbors' children. Still the same sort of questions regarding use of force remain in that case.
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Since I've been seeing all kinds of complaints regarding Gateways lately on here, I thought I post my recent pleasant experiences. My machine (4DX2-66V) this past Friday. This was two weeks to the DAY from when I called the order in. Upon unboxing it I found everything to be in perfect order. All the peripherals I ordered were properly installed (Jumbo-250 & CD-ROM). I was very impressed with the quantity and quality of the Gateway documentation. All software came with the original disks and manuals. The Gateway manual itself is in a nice 3-ring binder. The ATI GUP came with build59 drivers. All other software I specified (Microsoft Office) was properly installed. The machine came right up out of the box and has been performing flawlessly. It's been on all weekend and it hardly even reaches room temperature. I think the big roomy tower case has a lot to do with it. It's up and running DOS 6.0 with no problems. I've also read about some people having problems with high speed serial communications. I used the DOS 6.0 InterLink program which lets me link to my old computer via a serial port at 115.2K baud. It then "maps" the other machines two hard disks as my disks F & G. You can "cd" to these drives and either run programs or copy files. It's almost like a peer-peer lan except you can also *run* programs on the other machine. It's not a two way street. The other machine is the server and this machine is the client. So thats where it seems to differ from the peer to peer stuff. For a bundled DOS utility its very impressive. My Jumbo-250 took about 11 minutes to back up 117MB of data. I also by-passed any potential Gateway monitor problems by taking the $430 credit and applying it towards a NEC 4FG. I love this monitor! So, I'm glad there is some good news Gateway stories and I'm glad it was me. (Now if it just KEEPS working). :-) John
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. . . Are you sure about this? I'm currently looking at a copy of last Thursday's SF Chronicle and there is the typical one column Traders ad on page C7 in the Sports section. Not only that, but there is a part in the middle which rather prominently says "WANTED: We pay cash for assault rifles and pistols.". Granted, I haven't seen today's paper yet. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't a Traders ad in it. It's probably worth it to write to the Chronicle (and other papers) anyway, because all their anti-gun editorials are disgusting. By the way, let me put in a plug for Traders. I have shopped all over the SF Bay Area and I have never seen another store with lower prices. And their selection is amazing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lee Gaucher | My opinions. [email protected] | No one else's.
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Ron Roth recommends: "Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the proper channels, you might consider ther following:..." [diet omitted] 1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...this sounds suspiciously like a blood chemistry...glucose tolerance and the like...suddenly chemistry exists? You know perfectly well that this person can be saved needless trouble and expense with simple muscle testing and hair analysis to diagnose...no "CONFIRM" any aberrant physiology...but then again...maybe that's what you meantby "proper channels." 2) Were you able to understand Dick King's post that "90% of diseases is not thesame thing as 90% of patients" which was a reply to your inability to critically evaluate the statistic you cited from the New England Journal of Medicine. Couldyou figure out what is implied by the remark "Of course MDs are ethically bound to not knowingly dispense placebos..."? 3) Ron...have you ever thought about why you never post in misc.health.alterna- tive...and insist instead upon insinuating your untrained, non-medical, often delusional notions of health and disease into this forum? I suspect from your apparent anger toward MDs and heteropathic medicine that there may be an underlying 'father problem'...of course I can CONFIRM this by surrogate muscle testing one of my patients while they ponder my theory to see if one of their previously weak 'indicator' muscles strengthens...or do you have reservations about my unique methods of diagnosis? Oh..I forgot what you said in an earlier post.."neither am I concerned of whether or not my study designs meet your or anyone else's criteria of acceptance." John Badanes, DC, CA [email protected]
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Hi. I have been thinking about buying a Motorcycle or a while now and I have some questions: -Is there a buying guide for new/used motorcycles (that lists reliability, how to go about the buying process, what to look for, etc...)? -Is there a pricing guide for new/used motorcycles (Blue Book)? Also -Are there any books/articles on riding cross country, motorcycle camping, etc? -Is there an idiots' guide to motorcycles? ANY related information is helpful. Please respond directly to me. Thanks a lot. -Jordan Me also. Thanks,
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The people on usenet are clearly a special bunch. We live the net, which is the future of our culture. Usenetters have rapid electronic access to information. Society in general must depend on CNN. I can only hope we can make this information accessable by the public before the radical fringe, which _is_ the majority, destroys the fabric of this country. Freedom is never easily won.
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excuse me for my ignorance. But I remember reading once that the Biblical tribe known as the Philistines still exists...they are the modern day Palestinians. Anyone out there with more info, please post it!!!
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I love it, I love it, I love it!! Wish I could fit all that into a .sig file! (If someone is keeping a list of Bobby quotes, be sure to include this one!) The Flat-Earthers state that "the Earth is flat" is a fact. I don't accept this, I think it's an unproven opinion, and I think the Round-Earthers are right because they have better evidence than the Flat-Earthers do. Although I can't prove that a god doesn't exist, the arguments used to support a god's existence are weak and often self-contradictory, and I'm not going to believe in a god unless someone comes over to me and gives me a reason to believe in a god that I absolutely can't ignore. A while ago, I read an interesting book by a fellow called Von Daenicken, in which he proved some of the wildest things, and on the last page, he wrote something like "Can you prove it isn't so?" I certainly can't, but I'm not going to believe him, because he based his "proof" on some really questionable stuff, such as old myths (he called it "circumstancial evidence" :] ). So far, atheism hasn't made me kill anyone, and I'm regarded as quite an agreeable fellow, really. :)
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I hear that the Performa 450 is really an LCIII with an internal modem. Can the modem part be obtained and installed in an LCIII? It would be nice if it were actually a powerbook internal modem, but that might be too much to hope for.
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Besides being an infringement on our civil liberties (not the subject in this post), the name "Clipper Chip" seems very confusable with the "Clipper" chip of Intergraph. Originally designed by a team at Fairchild Semiconductor, Clipper was a 32-bit RISC microprocessor. It is still used in some workstations, notably those from Intergraph, the supplier of CAD tools. Intergraph acquired the Clipper product line when Fairchild was sold to National Semiconductor several years back. When I first saw "Clipper Chip" in the announcement, I immediately thought the article was referring to the Clipper chip I know. This seems to be grounds for Intergraph to sue, but then I'm not a lawyer. I'd say I'm a cryptologist, but I don't want to incriminate myself under the laws of the new regime. -Tim May
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As a person who is very sensitive to msg and whose wife and kids are too, I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE FOOD INDUSTRY WANTS TO PUT MSG IN FOOD!!! Somebody in the industry GIVE ME SOME REASONS WHY! IS IT AN INDUSTRIAL BYPRODUCT THAT NEEDS GETTING GET RID OF? IS IT TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT THE RECIPES ARE NOT VERY GOOD OR THE FOOD IS POOR QUALITY? DO SOME OF YOU GET A SADISTIC PLEASURE OUT OF MAKING SOME OF US SICK? DO THE TASTE TESTERS HAVE SOME DEFECT IN THEIR FLAVOR SENSORS (MOUTH etc...) THAT MSG CORRECTS? I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! ALSO ... Nitrosiamines (sp) and sulfites... Why them? There are safer ways to preserve food, wines, and beers! I think 1) outlaw the use of these substances without warning labels as large as those on cig. packages. 2) Require 30% of comparable products on the market to be free of these substances and state that they are free of MSG, DYES, NITROSIAMINES and SULFITES on the package. 3) While at it outlaw yellow dye #5. For that matter why dye food? 4) Take the dyes and flavorings out of vitamins. (In my OSCO only Stress Tabs (tm) didn't have yellow dye #5) { My doctor says Yellow Dye #5 is responsible for 1/2 of all nasal polyps !!! } KEEP FOOD FOOD! QUIT PUTTING IN JUNK! JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH. Sig: A person tired of getting sick from this junk! -- Walter Lundby
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... an amazing illustration of disconnection from reality. Glad to see that you agree that the current Government is reticent about admitting the sovereignty of the people! Speaking from personal experience, I have had judges illegally assume jurisdiction even after I demanded that the DA prove such jurisdiction on the record, and the DA stood mute. I have also had an appellate court uphold such action and hide behind California Rules of Court, Rule 106 ("The judges of the appellate department shall not be required to write opinions in any cases decided by them, but may do so whenever they deem it advisable or in the public interest."). That is reality, I agree.
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That brings up an interesting point. Anyone else catch ESPN's piece about prospects and the relationship between age, career length, MVPs and Hall of Fame members? It was part of their preseason special. Basically, they looked at players that had amassed 1000 plate appearances (or ABs) by the time they were 24, and noticed some interesting things. For starters, they found out such players comprised the majority of MVPs in the history of the game. They also found out such players represented the majority of the players in the hall of fame. The kicker, though, was that they actually did some number-crunching and found that such players' careers lasted much longer than the careers of players not in that group. They also found that these players produced at both a greater level of performance and produced over twice the raw totals (HRs, etc) of the other players. The first group outhit the second something like .282 to .260 in raw BA, and blew away the second group in such categories as HRs, 2Bs, RBIs, etc. It was the most impressive thing I've seen on ESPN in recent memory. I guess Ray Knight makes his rebuttal tonight.
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A couple of weeks ago I posted a question concerning communicating between VB and MSACCESS using DDE. The answers I received at that time allowed me to get a prototype of my project working. However, during this process I have come up with new problems. 1) There seems to be a limit of 255 characters for a DDE Topic string. Is this inherent in all DDE systems or just peculiar to MSACCESS or VB? 2) It is easy to query an Access database from VB using the DDE SQL command, (provided the above limitation is overcome by using short field and table names) but how is one meant to update a database? a) A DDE SQL UPDATE command does not seem to work. b) Initiating an Access macro using a DDE Execute command from VB cannot be used because when the macro requests information from VB using a second DDE channel the programs dead lock until time- outs occur. (The VB to Access channel has to close before the Access to VB channel is initiated, I guess.) c) Access does not allow VB to DDE POKE the information. The way I eventually managed to update a database was by sending key- strokes from VB to Access using the SendKeys command. This technique has the problem that Access cannot be minimised and it must always be in a state ready to respond to the sequence of key-strokes VB sends. Are all the above statements correct or have I made incorrect assumptions? Are there any better work arounds to the above? Are there any signs of an ODBC driver for Access?
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I've heard that bikes tuned to perfection on the Dyno can be a little too close to the edge for street use. Cold morning, bad gas, etc. Apparently they back them of some even for track use. You pays your money ... __ Jorg Klinger | GSXR1100 | If you only new who Arch. & Eng. Services |"Lost Horizons" CR500 | I think I am. UManitoba, Man. Ca. |"The Embalmer" IT175 | - anonymous
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From: [email protected] 486 DX 50 mHz in Zero Insertion Force Socket Empty over-drive socket EISA motherboard with 256k cache -->2 32 bit EISA Slots -->2 32 bit VESA local bus slots -->4 16 bit ISA slots 8 MB 70ns RAM -->8 SIMMS sockets filled with 1mb strips (0 sockets open) 32 bit EISA IDE hard drive controller 330 Meg IDE hard disk drive w/ 64k cache (12ms) Diamond Viper Weitek 9000 VESA local bus graphics card w/ 2mb 15" MAG MX15F monitor 2 Serial(NS16550AFN UART), 1 parralell & 1 game ports Full tower case -->250 Watt power supply -->5 X 5.25" bays -->2 X 3.5" bays -->2 X Hard Drive bays 1.2MB 5.25" & 1.33MB 3.5" Floppy Drives Enhanced 101 key keyboard Hi-Resolution 400 DPI Serial Mouse MS DOS 5.0 and MS Windows 3.1 or newer AMI BIOS Joint Data Motherboard 30 Day Money Back Gaurantee Unconditional 2 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime Labor Warranty One year Nationwide on site service This system is currently availble from Comtrade, the company that won some of the highest (over dell, gateway and IBM) awards in recent PC magazine reviews. Your price must be highly competitive, without sacrificing any of the quality standards listed above.
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FYI: The actual horizontal dot placement resoution of an HP deskjet is 1/600th inch. The electronics and dynamics of the ink cartridge, however, limit you to generating dots at 300 per inch. On almost any paper, the ink wicks more than 1/300th inch anyway. The method of depositing and fusing toner of a laster printer results in much less spread than ink drop technology. It doesn't take much investigation to see that the mechanical and electronic complement of a laser printer is more complex than inexpensive ink jet printers. Recall also that laser printers offer a much higher throughput: 10 ppm for a laser versus about 1 ppm for an ink jet printer. Something else to think about is the cost of consumables over the life of the printer. A 3000 page yield toner cartridge is about $US 75-80 at discount while HP high capacity (~500-1000 page yield) cartridges are about $US 22 at discount. It could be that over the life cycle of the printer that consumables for laser printers are less than ink jet printers. It is getting progressively closer between the two technologies. Laser printers are usually desinged for higher duty cycles in pages per month and longer product replacement cycles.
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They are actually 72 pin. They come in 4, 8, 16, and 32 with 64s soon If you are interested in 4s or 8s, I may be able to help. Please call 415-324-2881 after 4:00 pm pdt. I may be interested in a trade.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I just wanted to point out that some of the food, particularly the soups, are prepared in a big batch, so the restaurant won't be able to take the MSG out of it. Sometimes its pretty hard to find out if this is the case or not.
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We are Dartmouth engineering students.We are looking for documented data regarding the wear associated with turning on an off a monitor and how it relates to power consumption. Interested in a comparison between the wear on a monitor which is left on continuously and one which is turned off when not in use. Please personalize E-mail to: [email protected] Thank you,
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I am looking for an inexpensive vlb card, and have yet to run across any real reviews of them. One of the cards the local stores are pushing is the Genoa 8500 for $125-140. Apparently it uses a Cirrus Logic acc. chip, but I don't know which one (GD5426?). One of the shops I've spoken with claims the card out-performs the Diamond Stealth 24 vl and the Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 plus vl cards (S3 86C805 based), but that can't be true if it is using the GD5426. I like the price of the Genoa 8500, but if it lags in performance behind the S3 cards, I'll pay the extra $50 for one of them. Any info. on low end vlb cards would be appreciated. If I get replies via email, I'll post summary info. if anyone else is interested.
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Moving Sale: Must sell before May 5: Futon: high-end, oak, queen, like new -- $250 Computer Desk: roll-top, locks securely, like new -- $100 Color TV: 13", perfect cond., great for bedroom -- $50 ( ***SOLD) Coffee Tables/Dresser: $40 or B.O. Lamps: $10 Make an offer!!
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Water. Nuclear stations don't generate electricity directly from the reactor, they use the reactor to generate heat. The heat is then used to heat water just as in a conventional oil or coal station, and the resultant steam drives the turbines. The cooling towers are used to cool the steam and recondense it into water to continue the cycle Steve
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Yes, and everyone thinks as you do. No one thinks that he is going to cause or be involved in a fatal accident, but the likelihood is surprisingly high. Just because you are the man on the firing squad whose gun is shooting blanks does not mean that you are less guilty. You mean that killing is wrong in all but one situtation? And, you should note that that situation will never occur. There are always other options thank killing. Why don't you just say that all killing is wrong. This is basically what you are saying. Are you attempting to be condescending? But, most people have found the risk to be acceptable. You are probably much more likely to die in a plane crash, or even using an electric blender, than you are to be executed as an innocent. I personally think that the risk is acceptable, but in an ideal moral system, no such risk is acceptable. "Acceptable" is the fudge factor necessary in such an approximation to the ideal.
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One thing is certain, though, its still too cold. After about 40 Hell! This is WARM. I retired my fleece from under the Aerostich last month when the temperature got aboce 40. Try living a couple of years on the dole, so you cant afford any heating. You put the gear on in October, abd you take it off again in May. Getting out on the bike seems like a luxury in comparison cos oyur usuallu going somewhere warm. Its all relative.
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Here I am!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Smyth [email protected] Senior Software Engineer, (818)306-6463 (temp! do NOT use v-mail) X and Object Guru. tempory office: 525/B70 Jet Propulsion Lab, M/S 525-3660 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- What's the earliest possible date you can't prove it won't be done by? - Tom DeMarco
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I was thinking about this, also. It's quite possible the system transmits, in clear, the serial number of the device being used. That way they can start a tap, get the serial number, and use the warrant for the first tap to get the key. If they tap someone who's apparently using encryption, but don't find that prefix, then they'll assume it's an "un-authorized" encryption scheme. -- May the Kloo Gnomes be generous to you.
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*Reminder* Plan now for the Andrew Conference. *Date* The dates are as noted below. (We have not changed them.) *Submission extension* We are still accepting papers. *Tutorial topic* _Converting Andrew source code to C++_ This tutorial will discuss the steps necessary to convert a site from C (extended with classC) to C++. Conversion of the source code requires only a couple of steps: run the converter fill in missing type information Describing this will not take long. The remainder of the day will be spent learning how to write objects in C++ and practicing. ------------------------------ 1993 Andrew Technical Conference and Consortium Annual Meeting June 24-25, 1993 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA The conference will be held on the last Thursday and Friday in June. A tutorial will be on Thursday the 24th and the conference proper on the 25th with the annual meeting at the dinner on the evening between the two days. All conference attendees are welcome at the annual meeting, though only Consortium members will be able to vote. This year's theme is Application Construction by Non-Programmers Much of the effort on X toolkits has been aimed at programmer construction of applications. There have, however, been some excellent UIMS systems built on top of X. Papers addressing the theme will consider questions such as What is needed for application construction by non-programmers? Can we avoid programming altogether, or is a simple language needed? Is it sufficient to create applications, or must users be able to create new widgets? Should widgets and applications be able to print themselves? Your participation in the conference is welcome. Papers are appropriate on the theme or any aspect of the Andrew User Interface System, including applications experience with users new objects reviews of and proposals for revision of internal Andrew protocols We expect to have an RS/6000 with video projector available if you would like to do a demonstration. Paper proposals should be submitted by 15 May 1993. Acceptance will be 1 June with final papers due by 15 June. Send papers via electronic mail to [email protected].
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I'm not saying this at all - it requires no faith on my part to say the car drives because I've seen it drive - I've done more than at in fact - I've actually driven it. (now what does require some faith is the belief that my senses give an accurate representation of what's out there....) But there is NO evidence - pro or con - for the existence or non-existence of God (see what I have to say below on this). Sorry if I remain skeptical - I don't believe it's entirely a conclusion. That you have seen no evidence that there IS a God is correct - neither have I. But lack of evidence for the existence of something is in NO WAY evidence for the non-existence of something (the creationist have a similar mode of argumentation in which if they disprove evolution the establish creation). You (personally) have never seen a neutrino before, but they exist. The "pink unicorn" analogy breaks down and is rather naive. I have a scientific theory that explains the appearance of animal life - evolution. When I draw the conclusion that "pink unicorns" don't exist because I haven't seen them, this conclusion has it's foundation in observation and theory. A "pink unicorn", if it did exist, would be qualitatively similar to other known entities. That is to say, since there is good evidence that all life on earth has evolved from "more primitive" ancestors these pink unicorns would share a common anscestory with horses and zebras and such. God, however, has no such correspondence with anything (IMO). There is no physical frame work of observation to draw ANY conclusions FROM. I disagree with you profoundly on this. I haven't defined God as existence - in fact, I haven't defined God. But this might be getting off the subject - although if you think it's relevant we can come back to it. You are using wrong categories here - or perhaps you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm making no argument what so ever and offering no definition so there is no fallacy. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. *I* Believe - and that rests upon Faith. And it is inappropriate to apply the category of logic in this realm (unless someone tells you that they can logically prove God or that they have "evidence" or ..., then the use of logic to disprove their claims if fine and necessary). BTW, an incomplete argument is not a fallacy - some things are not EVEN wrong. I don't follow you here. Certainly one can make observations of things that they didn't know existed. I still maintain that one cannot use observation to infer that "God does not exist". Such a positive assertion requires a leap. Once again you seem to completely misunderstand me. I have no EVIDENCE that "'god is' is meaningful" at ANY level. Maybe such a response as you gave just comes naturally to you because so many people try to run their own private conception of God down your throat. I, however, am not doing this. I am arguing one, and only one, thing - that to make a positive assertion about something for which there can in principle be no evidence for or against requires a leap - it requires faith. I am, as you would say, a "theist"; however, there is a form of atheism that I can respect - but it must be founded upon honesty.
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Freedom of speech does not mean that others are compelled to give one the means to speak publicly. Some systems have regulations prohibiting the dissemination of racist and bigoted messages from accounts they issue. Apparently, that's not the case with virginia.edu, since you are still posting.
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Yes, it's possible... in fact, there's some gl widget code in /usr/lpp/GL somewhere... (it's named Glib.c; my IBM's down right now though, so I can't find the exact location :) WARNING: this code feels quite bogus. It does things like calling noport() before winopen(), and then extracting an X window id from it anyway. It worked just fine under aix 3.1; I spent last weekend trying to port it to 3.2 (gl under 3.2 doesn't seem to like it), and it's turning into a Hard Job. Check out your "info" pages; it has some pretty good documentation on whan you can and can't do when mixing gl and X, and how to go about doing so.
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Humanist, or sub-humanist? :-)
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We've developed a number of applications using DevGuide and found it to be a very useful tool. I've been impressed with the level of integration it affords using the connection editor. I love the general ease of use. I talked with Tali Aben at Sun today about DevGuide + Motif. She was very helpful. We provided some input as to what we'd like to see in the next version of DevGuide. Tali was very enthusiatic about our comments. I mentioned I was going to post this email message and she offered to receive additional comments from the net on what DevGuide should evolve into. Send your comments/wish-list, raving, et. al. about DevGuide to: [email protected] Pretty cool example of a company that cares what we want.... More of this and computers may have a future. Frankly, I like the idea that it will offer some migration capability to DOE/DOMF through an integrated ToolTalk capability, pointed out in March's SunExpert magazine.
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The quick answer: Revelation 12:7-9 "And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels who fought back. But he [the dragon] was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent, called the devil and Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled down to the earth, and his angels with him." The earlier part of chapter 12 deals (very symbolically) with why Satan rose up in battle against Michael and the good angels in the first place.
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Grow up, childish propagandist.
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