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I blame Jon Stewart and Coulbert as their shows were once completely apolitical and didn't mention politics at all until the 2nd Bush presidency. They missed golden opportunities to joke about the KKKlintons snorting lots of cocaine, Bill having sex with nasty fat Jewish women and being a rapist, Hillary being a deeply closeted lesbian alcoholic, Barry being gay and deeply closeted and a crackhead and all of the BIG MIKE jokes. I don't think she is a tranny but Joan was saying how BIG MIKE looks more masculine than Barry does.
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Missing Shane Gillis
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It's semantics but i think it's more like the more woke the comedian the less funnier, wokeness kills humor
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I had cancer, and it was more amusing to me than Russell Brand.
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Russell brand is about as woke as it gets. The guy jumps ship when public tide turns
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Schneider is fucking hilarious
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Woke people are not funny because they get offended by everything.
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The only funny standup comedian in this group is chappelle. Rogan is never funny, schneider is twitter funny, brand is actor/personality funny.
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I don't think so. I do find some comedians who are politically liberal that are funny. The issue is when they let their politics dictate their jokes to the degree that alienates audience members who think differently. It basically turns into a finger pointing that late night talk show hosts such as Colbert and Kimmel do.
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One of these is not like the others
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I wouldnt put Rob Schneider in the same tier as Chappelle, Brand and Rogan.
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Personally, if a comedian stays away from political stuff and is funny talking about slice of life stuff or whatever stories and shit they want to I'm fine with it.
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Don't bring politics into it as that takes me out of the funny and will literally ruin the set for me no matter how much they killed with the rest of it.
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I think the absolute BEST comics are the ones who veer FAR away from any political discussion.
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They’re what people like because they represent what we want and need. Change, authenticity and a funny voice to talk about what no one else knows how to.
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Comedians are satirical and usually attack whatever the status quo is at the time. Right now wokeism is very popular, comedians are starting to wake up and attack that.
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George Carlin was very anti-conservative in a time where people were conservative.
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It's an effective formula to equalise the pendulum, we laugh when we see things are ridiculous. It's easier to ridicule whatever is popular at the time.
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Rob Schneider made the cut, eh?
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I don't think that it's generally "woke" or not that puts people on the "funny" list or not. Plenty of people aren't funny at all.
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In general, I think that a lot of that crowd is so focused on not "stepping on people's toes" that they censor a lot of what they say and goes on. Comedians on the other hand dredge up a lot of shit and put it in a different light. None of what Ann Frank went through is funny....but when you walk through a Museum thinking she's Hellen Keller....It takes talent to be a comedian, but you have to be willing to be the "butt" of the joke at times. To know you just made a Hitler joke and it was funny, while not being all "uppity" about the subject matter. To tell a joke you risk offending people, hurting their feelings, making them sad, or poking at sensitive subjects...you shouldn't try to hurt people mind you, but some jokes do that. This is the complete opposite ideology of "woke", which is probably the biggest issue in this regard.
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Yes.
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Yes. “Woke” people don’t have a sense of humor. Comedians do. That’s what they’re not “woke”. It’s impossible to be “woke” and funny.
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One of the major cornerstones of comedy is, as stated earlier in this thread, pushing boundaries.
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This is not entirely lost on the left -- they are glad to push boundaries when it comes to comedy, but when they do it, they push said boundaries against their chosen "oppressor" group, so rather than simply telling rude jokes that hold no animosity, their "humor" is indistinguishable from angry, hateful, frothing-mouthed rants and accusations, and completely devoid of any punchline to speak of.
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Thus, they silence anyone who might tell rude, but otherwise harmless jokes, in order to empower people whose hearts pump nothing but hate and who don't actually tell jokes, so much as complain about people they hate, all while telling you if you're not laughing at their vile rants, that makes you problematic, blaming the audience for being the issue if they don't find the comedian funny.
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You can’t push boundaries on the left because it’s entirely fabricated and won’t hold up to the slightest fuckery. It’s bolshevism and questioning inherently starts tearing it down. Comedy requires an objectivity that permits people to self evaluate and laugh. It’s the same reason the dumbfucks can’t meme, memetics require a modicum of truth in delivery, they have none.
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You’ve gotta watch this playlist of comedians [*crossing the line*]( with audience reaction. Plot twist?, the audience consists of people from communities where they are the subject of the jokes.
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And white people.
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Edit YT people
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You forgot people not trusting government = stupid
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Edit : I don’t know how many specials from comedians I used to like now start with a bit on how people didn’t trust the “science”
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Because they don't do comedy, they do propaganda.
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Latenight TV in a nutshell.
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Yup.
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It’s why Jay Leno was the last good late-night comedian on network TV even going back ~20 years ago: Leno poked fun at *everyone* in the public spotlight (particularly politicians) when there was an obvious and funny joke to be made.
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His main “competition” at the time was David Letterman, who was extremely biased in what jokes he’d tell about political figures—He basically refused to make fun of democrats, and he’d make fun of Republicans even if the “jokes” he was telling weren’t actually funny.
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Shane Gillis's Trump stuff is pretty great. Gillis was hired by SNL and then immediately fired when they realized that he wasn't woke.
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starts around 21 minutes. He did this set in Austin Texas and killed.
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This is it.
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Since the times of the Greek theatre, comedians and actors were the ones punching up. They were the transgressors questioning power and social structures.
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If you are defending the statu quo, you are not a comedian, you are propaganda.
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Fuck that punching up/down bullshit. Comedy can absolutely be mean and still hysterical.
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I mean how is Bill not up here?!?!
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I think Rob is extremely funny but we've just been seeing him doing funny stuff for 30+ years. There aren't many comedians out there who can say they've been successful for that long.
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You’re right. I forgot about bill ,rob schneider was in my mind due to his recent stand up.
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Rob’s been pretty funny in some stuff, he did an interesting interview with Theo Vonn a while back if I remember right.
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But I do agree that Bill Burr should be on the list of funny people as well.
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You think drug and sex addicted womaniser Russel Brand was woke huh.
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I’m think he has been the best for a few years now, but you are right in that he isn’t as famous as these guys. Counting his Patreon money though!
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TBH His anecdotal experiences are very funny. I find those far more entertaining than his old straight out comedy.
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Shane Gillis is absolutely amazing.
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Yeah I saw some clips and it came off as cringe. Just tell good jokes I don’t wanna hear about politics lol
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He's funnier to me when he's just being him. The dude is actually pretty smart and I am sure I am way further right than him in grand scheme of things but I do agree with some of his ramblings.
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Add Rogan to that list please.
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Great podcast, terrible comedian
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It’s not just that their ideology can’t withstand substantive scrutiny, it’s also something that Ayn Rand observed:
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>”There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
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In other words, they recognize that tearing people and institutions down for past wrongdoing is a way to amass power for themselves.
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That power is all smoke and mirrors. Every time they incite society to tear something down, they create the illusion that they have far more power/support than they actually do. Their goal is to form a manufactured consensus that society “supports” them because nobody is willing to be the next nail that sticks up and gets hammered down by the mob.
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The trouble is that that this means that they can’t afford to let *any* nail stick up, so they have to pursue *every* transgressor for *every* transgression, otherwise people will start to see through the illusion.
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At its core, comedy is all about pushing boundaries, getting people to laugh at those boundaries, and thereby tear them down bit by bit.
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The totalitarian left can’t tolerate any part of that process, so they always go after the good comedians.
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First time I saw that it took me longer than I’d like to admit to figure out it was just stupid for white.
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Womyn was one of my favorites
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[every colbert episode](
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Watching that feels like watching someone trying to be “acceptably” edgy, but without going over the line in a way that would piss off the left.
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He ended his bit about Trump with a brief reference to Biden—if being funny was his only goal, he would have leaned into that bit about Biden for his long history of gaffes and weird statements (possibly also his racism), or at least used his tiny reference to Biden as a springboard to criticize how it feels like both parties have turned congress into a sort of care home for cognitively compromised elderly people who are being held up like marionettes.
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He just had a new special drop on netflix today. Killed it.
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Jim Breuer needs a shout out, too.
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Because bill has openly talked about his (I wouldn’t say support but general lack of distain ) for socialism
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I know you only had so much room and the suggestions will grow, but Ricky Gervais is a massive proprietor of pushing boundaries. Definitely deserves top tier consideration. Shits on Hollywood elites and “offends” all.
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Isn't Dave the only actual comedian of that group?
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The guys been sober for multiple decades and seems to run a really strong program. People change and grow and not acknowledging that is exactly what the Left does...
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He openly bashed Republicans. Now, he's trying to act like one. We see through these libs. If he can pull the wool off other wokies, so be it.
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I would accept him as truthful if he went back and apologized for being wrong in the past. Can't just ignore that. Same with the other libtards.
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Waking up to the fact government power is crushing us is one thing, apologize for enabling it for years is another. We need both.
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His new special dropped today on Netflix. It’s a banger
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Yes! Yes! Yes!
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..Thank God I'm not the only one who can see that!
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Well done, significantly more eloquent than mine.
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This is why memes are politically effective. They push boundaries in a simple manner, make people laugh or angry at said boundaries and then the target falls apart.
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They do it to route around automated moderation.
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A few years back, there was a bunch of news about “disparities” in how FB handled “racist comments” from and about various groups, with the comments attacking “white” people being actioned at rates that the left felt were disproportionately high.
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A big part of that is that the people making those racist comments didn’t feel any need to self-censor, or use euphemisms—they just wrote out their racist tirades in ways that no bot or mod could ignore.
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By contrast, the people who hold bigoted opinions against groups *other* than “white people” have long understood that they’re a fringe minority, and that society does not tolerate them being open about their bigotry.
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So most of those *other* bigots have been using heavily coded language to transmit their bigotry for a long time, and the anti-white bigots are only just getting started down that road.
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YouTube people 🔥🔥
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Just tell the "woke" that it's short for Mighty Y.T.
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;p
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Ricky Gervais is legend. His last Oscar stint was one for the ages.
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You’re missing my point. He was never woke.
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Demanding apologies as a power play is a leftist bitch move.
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Exactly.
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If there’s one piece of advice I’d give to anyone on our side, it’s to read Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules For Radicals (or at least read the Wikipedia page for the book): It’s the playbook that the left is still trying to use to gain power, but it’s also a playbook that they have absolutely no effective defense against.
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Understanding that playbook makes it easier to guess how the left will react to things, which makes it easier to steer them into making mistakes.
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Memes are a proof of Alinsky’s fifth and sixth “rules”: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” and “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
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I'm not demanding them. I'm just saying that we deserve one. He can do what he wants. He was a liberal for years, then he wasn't. He can't expect us who weren't to fully embrace him.
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This entire sub is based on being on the left for the most part and then walking away from it because the left went fucking nuts.
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They haven't walked away far enough for me. Joe Rogan voted for Biden, who is in office.
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