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That must have been one hell of a conversation.
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Thought this was the Babylon Bee for sec!
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The most incoherent discussion to date.
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Birds of a feather you know Jack... Do the thing
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As much as I would like to see the old turtle Mitch retire it would give the Democrats more control in the Senate since Kentucky currently has a Democrat governor who would nominate his replacement.
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At least someone is working for the people. Let’s go!!!!
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He already confessed to (bragged about) committing blackmail to get the prosecutor fired. Impeach him for that.
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I hate to say it but I don't need this crap to stop my paycheck but why hasn't he been impeached already, can't anyone file impeachment articles against biden
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Yes.
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here's the issue: political office was originally intended to be filled BY THE PEOPLE as a civic duty, like jury duty. it was never intended to be a career.
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secret service must arrest him immediately.
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Both sides are corrupt. Corrupt politicians outnumber the ones that opppose corruption.
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[Listen to Mitch]( as he apologizes for Biden. They do not plan on impeaching Biden because they're on the same party
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So you are saying people like McConnell, Pelosi, Feinstein, Biden, have to go! I agree. Term limits are needed now.
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no term limits. BUT what should be is cognitive tests every year, and one failure = immediate removal.
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and the test has to be performed publically and transparently
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“We don’t have enough electricity-generating infrastructure,”
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This is what I've been saying. An electric car charging uses as much kw/h of electricity as 25 refrigerators. Imagine if everyone had one plugged in with our current power grid. You'd get brownouts/blackouts.
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Edit: and solar panels come with their own issues. Having to remove and reinstall them to get new roof, homeowners insurance doesn't cover them in many places, like say the southeast in hurricane territory, price plus installation, repairs, reliability in places with little sunshine, etc.
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I saw an ad for the new Nissan Leaf and I noticed down at the bottom of the screen in tiny letters it said “No tailpipe emissions”. I was very surprised to see this not because it’s true but because it’s a point that will often get you ridiculed. The juice has got to come from somewhere….
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97% of scientists could declare that climate ‘emergency’ is a myth…. They’d say that science isn’t done by consensus.
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I think there is some warming going on but not nearly what has been predicted. There is certainly no emergency. That’s just silly with literally every prediction made since the start of this (50 yrs ago?) ending up being not true. Why should we believe anything the climate change extremists are saying. The worst things are the so-called “solutions” that will solve nothing and cost massively mostly hurting the poor of the earth. News flash: China, India, Pakistan and the rest of the developing world are not gonna give up electricity now that they are getting it for the first time.
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The solutions to any problems that actually exist will be solved by technology advances. Zero net carbon is incredibly dumb and a fantasy.
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Based on a statement by the [CLINTEL foundation]( Their theories are about as deep as a puddle during a heat wave. Check out their site and judge for yourself. Notice that there's no easy way to see the full list of signatories or even see what it is they've signed. Hell, they can't even build a navigable website.
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“Not THOSE Nobel laureates!”
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This!
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CLINTEL is just one crazy, old, retired, bloviating Dutch oil engineer who is paid to spread lies by the Koch network along with a right-wing Dutch real estate tycoon. His silly petition's "scientists" include a commercial fisherman, a retired chemist, a cardiologist, and an air-conditioning engineer, alongside a number of retired oil geologists. [
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This is just a repeat of the long-discredited Oregon petition from twenty years ago, whose "scientists" turned out to include Posh Spice, Daffy Duck, Dr. Hawkeye Pierce (a character from MASH) and so on, because anyone could sign on without qualifications, so some cheeky climate activists joined the farce.
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It's not about finding scientists who claim things. In the same vein, you can find as many scientists supporting climate change as well especially when there is significant funding involved.
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>Learn the science for yourself. CO2, Methane, CFC and HFC. Is it all the same mechanism for trapping heat (bond vibration)? What are the sources for these gasses?
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And the biggest one of those isn't even on your list which is H2O. That's part of the problem when you start looking into these things, you start seeing where major points are ignored and understand exactly why they are ignored. We can't control H2O. There isn't some industry that we can tie it to.
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>You understand the difference, right? The difference between "there's no climate EMERGENCY" and "theres no such thing as climate change"
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There is also a difference between climate change and Climate Change. One is a natural occurrence that we have substantiating evidence for through the large scale transitions of the planet from ice age to ice age. The other is a marketing term used by media and politicians to suggest that it's an immediate threat.
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>If you've allowed the politization of this (or any issue) to be what decides it for you then you've allowed others to do your thinking for you
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I've reduced my stance down to something extremely simple. If it really is a climate emergency, then we would be building nuclear power plants since it's the safest, most proven and effective solution to the supposed problems. Since politicians continue to push for "solutions" that can't solve the problem while at the same time vomiting billions upon billions of dollars into it, the evidence shows that they are not being genuine in their statements.
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I'd be less skeptical of man made climate change if it wasn't always used as an excuse to attack capitalism instead of improving the planet.
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> You know you can probably find scientists who truly claim the Earth is flat.
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No, you cannot find a single one (outside of an insane asylum).
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> What are the sources for these gasses?
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They never existed *until humans came along!* 🤣
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YES! Everyone knows "climate change" is happening, it always has and always will! It's the "we MUST DESTROY Western Civilization while China and India take over the world" in order to "prevent the apocalypse!" part that's bullshit.
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All the while refusing to do what they demand of others? Nope, not buying it.
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Scientists are people and all thru history have been influenced by the same things we all are influenced by, money and fame. Right now all the money and fame are on one side and that’s dangerous. Same thing happened during Covid and the money and fame side, who also attempted to censor those not agreeing, were all dead wrong about everything.
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I'm still trying to process the fact that supporting fair trade and due process, while opposing overseas adventuring and corporate welfare, puts me firmly on the right.
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I'd be considered a pinko during the Bush administration and I haven't changed my positions.
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And this is why the punk sub hates him. But in fairness, that sub is coming up with reasons to hate just about every great punk band.
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agree with this guy, never in my life could i have imagined it.
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The 60s left-wing rebels who fought the government and wanted freedom of thought and speech are the same people who today want an all-powerful central government controlling:
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\- what we can say
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\- what we can eat
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\- what we can drive
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\- how much we can heat and cool our homes
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Kinda like the old Soviet Union. My parents were right - 60s rebels were all Communists.
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Ya'll know Twitter is where free speech is right now. That being said, i support this sub and will continue til they probably try to ban it.
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Never thought I’d see it. Now that’s true punk.
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I love that man.
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He must not have been paying attention. Right wing in America is for limited government. Not sure about the UK but thought we all fall under the same spectrum.
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The only way to rank political positions along a single left-right axis is based on where power lies—at one end, the state is all-powerful, and at the other, there the state is powerless with individuals holding all power privately.
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Generally speaking, that puts authoritarian forms of government on the far left, and absolute anarchy at the far right.
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By that metric, the values you express are center-right, and are very much aligned with the republic that our founders intended for us to have.
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Yeah, I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that the same people constantly posting "my body my choice"
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Were the same people posting "we need to force vaccines on kids and adults"
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Rage with the machine
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Johnny rotten has stayed consistently punk whereas everyone around him has sold out to the very things they bitched about for decades.
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No true Scotsman
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The guy who wrote and performed "I am an anarchist"
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Considering the all loved and supported the Soviet Union, it makes sense.
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The UK and the US are very different.
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Especially as we don't really have religious right wing here. Or guns to squabble over.
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Two very different cultures that people should stop treating as the same.
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I married a yank and she spent the first year or so living here effectively saying "I can't believe how different it all is here"
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[This guy]( is an Anglican priest who feels the need to speak for other religions. Nothing worse than a self-hating Christian.
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Can’t seem to recall the man who died on the cross oppressing any Jews. Anyone? 🤷‍♂️
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As a jew, no it's fucking not. These crazy libs need to stop speaking for me
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“Early life and education” on Wikipedia, first sentence.
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I'm a Jew. Nobody thinks this. The cross is a torture device, but nobody (and I mean nobody) thinks Christians using a cross as a symbol of faith is oppressive. Unfortunately for these people, the demand for oppression far outweighs the supply.
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Its like the author wasn’t making his quota so he needed something that would sail past the editors.
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I wonder when The Guardian will be writing their equivalent article on how Jews see the Star and Crescent.
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Also, wasn't Jesus a Jew?
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That’s the picture of a man who gets paid to spread the narrative. No morals, no scruples, whatever he is paid to write a story about he will do. This is our media.
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