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+--- 14891526
+What caused the surge of incarceration in America beginning in the 90s and peaking in the 2000s?
+--- 14891531
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Blacks.
+--- 14891537
+>>14891531
+Blacks have existed in America before the 90s.
+--- 14891538
+war on drugs. you can see it starts rising in the 70s. the 80s were the decade of coke.
+--- 14891550
+>>14891537
+democrats passed anti-gang legislation because they were ignoring gangs because that's racist and everybody knew it, they made it a federal offense to be in a gang and so... blacks
+--- 14891553
+>>14891537
+So?
+--- 14891580
+>>14891537
+Impossible
+--- 14891590
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Mexicans.
+--- 14891592
+>>14891526 (OP)
+All these guys are just getting out now
+--- 14891605
+longer sentences for drug crimes
+--- 14891623
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Jews started pushing crack and gangster rap to negros. This created a new more criminal culture than the previous one -- which was still very criminal.
+--- 14891733
+>>14891526 (OP)
+A massive crime wave started in the 1960s and raged until the early 1990s when a general consensus among politicians was that there needed to be tougher sentencing on criminal. It worked. Crime rates fell across the board for the next 20 years.
+--- 14891741
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Every once in a while some guy remembers mass incarceration was a thing than revives it. Diff between that and say the 1800s and the pre mid 20th century is just a matter of scale.
+--- 14891749
+>>14891733
+>It worked.
+It didn't anon. Rates were dropping prior to mass incarceration bit now with prisons being filled up led to costs skyrocketing and many prisons being outsourced or severely underfunded.
+--- 14891750
+>>14891733
+> A massive crime wave started in the 1960s
+Why
+--- 14891753
+>>14891550
+>anti-gang legislation because they were ignoring gangs because that's racist
+Lol shut up they never cared about being racist.
+--- 14891769
+>>14891753
+Northern Democrats have been nigger kissing libtards since the 70's, Northern democrat political machines are based on political patronage and have been for 200 years, that is, behaving like a mob that "pays off" voters. That's why democrats to this day do everything in their power to ignore black crime, because they're their voters
+--- 14891774
+>>14891750
+All crime waves are linked to gang activity. Blacks flooded the inner cities and all the women went on welfare, the jobs all left so what do al the black men do? Blacks don't actually create jobs so they prey on each other, selling heroin and crack and killing each other for the right to do that
+--- 14891788
+>>14891769
+>Northern Democrats have been nigger kissing libtards since the 70's
+Not really. They have thrown many grouos including blacks under the bus for years. 
+
+>That's why democrats to this day do everything in their power to ignore black crime, because they're their voters
+Completely false because some if the hardest crackdowns or promises on being tough on crime cane from Democrats too. Democrats also have kneecapped welfare just like they republican counterparts too.
+--- 14891793
+>>14891788
+I honestly think a lot of posters here are just foreigners doing shitty takes on Anerican politics and history lol. Either that or too young lol.
+--- 14891961
+>>14891788
+Everyone knows welfare only really benefits brown people, it's obvious.once you realize that and realize how even subconsciously people acknowledge this you can understand why at one point the Democrat party tried to appeal to white people by claiming they wanted lower the benefits. It's all politics, most people arent aware that democrat literally pay brown people to vote for them and consciously do so
+--- 14891971
+>>14891961
+>Everyone knows welfare only really benefits brown people
+A fuckton of whites are on it snd other forms of social assistance. Stop getting your info from shotholes.
+
+>It's all politics, most people arent aware that democrat literally pay brown people to vote for them and consciously do so.
+There us literally nothing stopping other parties to try to entice other voters. Democrats don't have magic powers.
+--- 14891982
+>>14891971
+Whites went from 97% of welfare beneficiaries to now well below 50%, I wouldn't doubt if it was below 40%. If this is okay to you you're a disingenuous nigger
+--- 14892019
+>>14891750
+leaded gasoline
+--- 14892023
+>>14892019
+Why do you believe that?
+--- 14892116
+>>14892023
+he's retarded pay him no mind
+--- 14892175
+>>14891750
+Really gets the noggin joggin
+--- 14892455
+>>14891526 (OP)
+The War on Drugs. The United States government began to use incarceration as a means of policing and controlling communities that were perceived to be involved in or affected by the illegal drug trade.
+--- 14892489
+>>14892116
+Lead was also in a lot of paint and schools.
+--- 14892492
+>>14891526 (OP)
+joggers
+--- 14892494
+>>14891982
+>Whites went from 97% of welfare beneficiaries to now well below 50%,
+Because other non-whites could now access it since historically they could not and had to rely on charities as whites in most areas gained access to state/fed assistance. The flat number on welfare is still high and that's not counting the people who only earn just enough to be ineligible OR those who keep fluctuating around the line.
+--- 14892516
+>>14891537
+hory sheet
+--- 14892883
+>>14891526 (OP)
+It began in the 70s actually. Legislators and prosecutors started taking discretion in sentencing away from judges. Then judges realized they were allowed to impose the maximum sentence possible if a defendant simply chose to go to trial and not plead guilty.
+>>14891733
+It didn't. Crime rates in the US fell roughly in the same proportion they did in other countries at the same time.
+--- 14893285
+>>14891750
+Not entirely clear, but leaded gasoline and a high population of young people and unwanted kids were probably factors
+--- 14893299
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Police worshipping.
+Sucking the thin blue cock.
+--- 14893317
+Clinton cringe Bill
+--- 14893322
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Americans have an almost sexual obsession with police and incarceration. Americans are a hypocritical nation of golems who try to claim they’re the center of the “free world” yet are also the prison capital of the world. Americans push for stronger policing, longer sentences, and strict legalism. Americans cheer on overzealous prosecutors. Americans write out disturbingly-detailed fantasies of how they hope criminals are raped by black men in prison, likely due to their mass sexual attraction to black men.
+
+America is a nation of slaves with a sexual fetish for authority and blacks.
+--- 14893327
+>>14893322
+The good news is that there's been a bit of a backlash against this in the scholarly/legal world and general public. People are realizing how unusual and overzealous practices like mandatory minimums, cash bail, and three strikes laws are.
+--- 14893328
+>>14893327
+The glory of trial and error
+--- 14893337
+>>14893327
+A good portion of the country is still pushing back at any attempt at reform, Florida for example is pushing to make the death penalty not bound by a unanimous jury decision.
+--- 14893416
+>>14893322
+>niggers get thrown in prison, rightfully
+>THIS IS A SEX THING
+lay off the soi lattes
+--- 14893426
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Cheap prison labour to outsource jobs.
+--- 14893431
+>>14893416
+You don't get it, do you?
+
+By how dumb you are, you are probably american.
+--- 14893435
+>>14893431
+>duuuuh nigger dick
+>sir I would just like criminals to be put in prison
+>NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK 
+post hands
+--- 14893460
+>>14893337
+Jeez I'm pretty sure that's how a particularly famous wrongful near-execution happened
+--- 14893465
+>>14891537
+Source?
+--- 14894810
+>>14893465
+Uhh anon...
+--- 14895254
+>>14891526 (OP)
+There's one big factor and a bunch of minor contributing factors.
+
+The big factor hands down is the 1994 Clinton crime bill and mandatory minimum sentencing. That is one of the worst fucking pieces of legislation ever to pass the President's desk.
+
+Other contributing factors include Nixon's War on Drugs that preceded the crime bill, RICO and the government crackdown on organized crime and gangs, the prevalence of lead poisoning especially in urban areas stemming from the use of leaded gasoline which led to a measurable uptick in violence, and the overall culture of the judicial system and backlog and insufficient resources for criminal defense, which all incentivize the prosecution to throw the book at you for every little offense, and most (poor and melanin-enriched) defendants to just take a plea deal and go to jail regardless of guilt.
+--- 14895296
+>>14893435
+He's not wrong. A lot of Americans have a closet fetish fir prison rape
+--- 14895748
+>>14895254
+>insufficient resources for criminal defense, which all incentivize the prosecution to throw the book at you for every little offense
+I think one jurisdiction in Alaska or something tried cracking down on coerced plea bargains and instead of the court system collapsing prosecutors just picked the most important cases to prioritize and police knew they had to be thorough and by-the-book when gathering evidence.
+--- 14895761
+>>14894810
+I accept your concession.
+--- 14895783
+>>14891750
+Boomers coming of age, the sexual revolution, new left terrorism, expanded access to drugs. 
+
+You know what I think lead to a drop of crime after the 90s? Video games. Kids weren't wandering the street with nothing to do after school and the weekends, they were in their rooms playing Xbox with friends.
+--- 14895922
+>>14895254
+> Clinton crime bill 
+Quick rundown on this
+--- 14895942
+>>14895783
+>You know what I think lead to a drop of crime after the 90s?
+Prosecuting gangbangers as felons and throwing them away for 20 years?
+--- 14895947
+>>14895922
+>Democrat mayors ignore organized black crime because they don't want to seem racist 
+>everybody leaves the cities 
+>cities become such an embarrassment by the 90's that all republicans have to do is point at the cities to win elections 
+>democrats super pissed that they have to actually do something
+>introduce bill to crack down on black crime 
+>crime falls precipitously, blacks are super pissed forever
+--- 14896074
+>>14891750
+White people started moving out of the cities to suburbs taking all the jobs and wealth with them. The blacks who remained started getting involved with gangs and drug trafficking as it was the only way to make money in the inner cities. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were scared of black people and they’re voting power so they started making drug dealing a serious crime to go after black people.
+--- 14896154
+>>14895947
+Dumbass, middle class blacks voted on it. Issue was that it turned on them. Stop leaving out key pieces of info and lying a lot.
+--- 14896158
+>>14895947
+>>Democrat mayors ignore organized black crime
+So now they are organized crime?
+--- 14896166
+>>14895922
+Hired like 100k+ police officers, expanded the potential application of the federal death penalty, cracked down on some kinds of firearms and gang offenses. IIRC it also expanded the federal prison system and funded the expansion of state prison systems. It also incentivized three-strikes laws and mandatory longer periods of no parole, euphemistically called "truth in sentencing."
+https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-10824/uslm/COMPS-10824.xml
+--- 14896172
+>>14896166
+That and being heavily reliant on plea bargaining
+--- 14896179
+>>14891526 (OP)
+The limp-dicked farce of a Law enforcement campaign we hyperbolically call the "War on Drugs." It should've been literal, but our "government" preemptively handicapped itself with a little thing called the 21st amendment.
+--- 14896216
+>>14896179
+It failed so badly. It wasn't really made to have an "end" because fundamentally Americans just love getting inebriated on something and have the size and clout to be a huge market that sucks everything in.
+--- 14896218
+>>14896216
+>Americans just love getting inebriated on something
+Indeed. Just look at our founders...
+--- 14896394
+>>14896154
+>like 5 blacks agreed that crime is bad so haha!
+do niggers think this is intelligent
+--- 14896403
+>>14896394
+You are so stupid. Get the fuck out brownie
+--- 14896413
+>>14896403
+Tell me how you think some niggers thinking crime is bad is somehow a monumental achievement for the race
+--- 14897753
+>>14896413
+Cry about it
+--- 14897758
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Purely socioeconomic factors
+--- 14897765
+>>14896413
+I'll spell it out for you because your thirdie education system totally neglects literacy.
+
+>Issue was that it turned on them
+It also turned on whites because polcie started becoming more abusive towards them too and engaged in over-policing.
+--- 14897915
+>>14897765
+>Muh police brutality
+Doesn't exist. Also that doesn't follow logically, you might be mentally ill
+--- 14898095
+>>14897915
+>doesn't exist
+Take your meds
+--- 14898096
+>>14891526 (OP)
+Boomers no question. There sociopathic lust for money and to watch others suffer.
+--- 14898114
+>>14897915
+>>Muh police brutality
+>Doesn't exist.
+People day that then act surprised when some twitch cop beats the living snot out if a guy on camera lol.
+--- 14898144
+>>14898114
+Yeah that doesn't happen in reality, have you tried staying off of black victimhood twitter
+--- 14898185
+>>14891733
+>>14891750
+It didn't. It returned back to normal.
+>>14892019
+>>14893285
+How did the ban of leaded gasoline cause a massive surge in incarceration rates?
+--- 14898272
+>>14898144
+Stay off boomerbook
+--- 14898285
+>>14898272
+Facebook is another nigger conspiracy theory enclave jamal
+--- 14898315
+>>14898285
+Okay boomer
+--- 14898420
+>>14895254
+they also modified Federal parole so one had to serve at least 75% of their sentence
+--- 14899086
+>>14891750
+Heroin, then crack.
+--- 14899363
+>>14896074
+>blacks do criminal things
+>go to jail
+>"this is white peoples fault"
+--- 14899396
+>>14897915
+Cops in New Mexico literally fucking murdered an innocent man in his own home last night because they broke into the wrong home and saw he was armed you stupid fucking faggot bootlicker
+
+I don’t know why anyone sucks cop dick when they’re the ones enforcing unjust laws and snatching your guns
+--- 14900436
+>this thread and internet discourse in general
+>Increasingly obvious America will have to go through a phase of retarded bleeding heart YIMBYs again until their unleashed pets kill enough innocent people to create a new backlash
+Greaaaaaaat. Maybe we'll get a new wave of seedy crime thriller kinos out of it at least.
+--- 14900507
+>>14900436
+Shut up brat. Your shit takes aren't any good.
+--- 14900510
+>>14900436
+NIMBYism is what destabilizes societies.
+--- 14900520
+>>14900436
+>YIMBYs
+So denser affordable housing is bad?
+--- 14900831
+>>14891750
+Welfare reform allowed single moms to live off daddy government instead of keeping the real dads around. Fatherless children = more crime. Very simple really, there shouldn't be such a debate about it but here we are.
+--- 14900843
+>>14899396
+Which alphabet agency is in charge of making sure people don't take revenge on cops and criminals or their families?
+--- 14900847
+>>14900831
+>Fatherless children = more crime.
+Why do you believe that?
+--- 14900866
+>>14900847
+nignogs need really strong parenting to not be complete losers
+--- 14901625
+>>14900866
+Dilate
+--- 14901759
+>>14900831
+>Welfare reform allowed single moms to live off daddy government instead of keeping the real dads around.
+You say that yet policing before during and after welfare targetted Black men such as arbitrary detention. Even with dads, families would still be EXACTLY as poor as they were sans dad and still suffer form poverty. You can't even say "welfare reform" because prior to Blacks beingm able to access welfare they were pretty much barred from welfare that most whites could access and had to rely on charities or Northern organizations.
+--- 14902488
+>>14891526 (OP)
+The Clinton Administration
+--- 14902596
+>>14891526 (OP)
+
+Rap music
+--- 14903076
+>>14901759
+Niggers weren't allowed to get welfare because they were almost always getting money through some side hustle or had some lazy unemployed nigger boyfriend pumping them full of seed
+
+Welfare reform was about removing these restrictions
+--- 14903818
+>>14903076
+I presume you have evidence?
+--- 14903831
+>>14895942
+>Prosecuting gangbangers as felons and throwing them away for 20 years?
+Or at least until Obama was president and 1960s level of cupcake justice came back.
+--- 14904011
+>>14903831
+State and federal justice systems aren't as harsh as they were 40 years ago but they still are stricter than they were in the 50s to early 70s period. Mandatory minimums, three strikes laws, coerced plea bargains, and disproportionately long sentences are still common practice.
+--- 14904165
+>>14900847
+>>14901759
+The more opportunities a child has to interact with his or her biological father, the less likely he or she is to commit a crime or have contact with the juvenile justice system (Coley and Medeiros, 2007). In a study of female inmates, more than half came from a father-absent home (Snell, Tracy, & Morton, 1991). Youths who never had a father living with them have the highest incarceration rates (Hill, O’Neill, 1993), while youths in father-only households display no difference in the rate of incarceration from that of children coming from two-parent households (Harper and McLanahan, 2004). In addition, children who come from father-absent homes are at a greater risk for using illicit substances at a younger age (Bronte-Tinkew, Jacinta, Moore, Capps, & Zaff, 2004). The absence of a father in a child’s life may also increase the odds of his or her associating with delinquent peers (Steinberg, 1987).

his/14892131.txt

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+--- 14892131
+Name a bigger fall from grace.
+--- 14892143
+You mean bigger rise from irrelevance. Proto-Celtics were some Alpine warriors who raped the shit out of England, France, Netherlands, Belgium, and Iberia. Modern Celtic speakers in the British Isles are 2% Celtic despite speaking the language of their masters.
+--- 14892179
+>Proto-Celtics were some Alpine warriors
+
+nah
+
+proto-celtic coalesced around the Atlantic coast about a thousand years before most academics assume (bronze age not iron age) and gradually spread eastwards across the continent (very fat east eventually)
+
+this is why their modern successors exist where they do, it's basically their urheimat
+--- 14892197
+>>14892179
+There is no early bronze age migration from the atlantic coast into central europe
+--- 14892216
+>proto-celtic coalesced around the Atlantic coast
+Retard.
+>about a thousand years before most academics assume
+Retard.
+>this is why their modern successors exist 
+Because those Atlantic cuckolds got raped by Alpine Celtics then completely raped by Germanics. Now L21 is 1% in the English despite them being the same as the Welsh genetically.
+--- 14892249
+>>14892131 (OP)
+
+Russia 1991-present
+--- 14892263
+>>14892143
+>despite speaking the language of their masters.
+What happened in practice was probably that the Proto-Celts raped their immediate neighbours, who were then, say, half-Celtic, who then raped their neighbours, and so on until you're down to almost indetectable levels of admixture from the Proto-Celts, but the Modern Celts would still be relatively heavy rapebabies of whoever was their immediate neighbour back then. It just doesn't really matter.
+>>14892179
+This never happened and there is no evidence for it
+--- 14892265
+>>14892143
+>raped
+british islands, netherlands, iberian and belgian uniparentals are almost homogeneously bell beaker
+were celts female warriors? because as far as i know when you rape someone you leave them your ydna kek. celtic incels literally traded their women and they got cucked so hard that the children started speaking their mothers language
+--- 14892270
+>>14892265
+Actually, kinda. Celtic women were at least girlbosses it seems and all accounts are unanimous in Celts being immensely homosexual, so it is conceivable that they may have had exceptionally low Y-DNA impact despite conquering pretty hard.
+--- 14892275
+>>14892216
+>>14892263
+>>14892265
+>>14892270
+I can't even enjoy internet race wars on this fucking board. I have no clue what any of you fuckers are saying.
+--- 14892291
+Celt = "I guess these non-Romans are sort of similar"
+--- 14892296
+>>14892291
+Celtic language family and cultural continuity is a matter of fact, don't ask for a coherent genetic profile though, probably the only ethnicity where "it's a language not a race" is entirely true and not a meme
+--- 14892301
+>>14892296
+None of the Insular Celts on Britain are genetically similar to one another. They're as similar to the Anglo-Saxons as they are to their "fellow Celts". Celtic "ethnicity" is a giant meme perpetuated by limited Roman historiography on them as a people. Celtic languages being propagated across different groups is strange but not exactly unheard of, just look at Latin languages spoken by various different groups across Europe.
+--- 14892305
+>>14892301
+>None of the Insular Celts on Britain are genetically similar to one another.
+What kind of absurd claim is this? They're similar to each other, but not to continental Gauls. 
+>just look at Latin languages spoken by various different groups across Europe.
+Are you denying the existence of the Roman Empire? Is assuming it existed a result of limited barbarian historiography?
+--- 14892311
+>>14892275
+I can get a basic grasp of this race autism. Haplo autists make my brain hurt
+--- 14892426
+>>14892263
+Not really. Irish are mostly Irish Bell Beaker with a bit of Germanic admixture, yet the language and culture of their Celtic masters live on.
+--- 14892447
+>>14892426
+This has no relevance to my post
+--- 14892457
+>>14892447
+It does because the Irish aren't 50% Britonic and 50% native like that scenario. They're 0% Celtic genetically.
+--- 14892571
+>>14892131 (OP)
+The downfall of the Greek world. From the pinnacle of the Parthenon to the destruction of Troy. From the age of Achilles to the reign of Alcibiades...
+--- 14892575
+>>14892131 (OP)
+Nineveh
+--- 14893175
+>>14892457
+"Britons" isn't necessarily a single group here, it can easily be one tribe to another tribe without being a single macro-ethnicity, and would certainly go through Picts too.
+--- 14893184
+>>14892263
+wrong
+>>14892301
+this anon is right, celtic culture spread with a minority not through conquest
+--- 14893190
+>>14893175
+picts were brittonic celts
+--- 14893197
+>>14892291
+celt=speaker of a celtic language, follower of celtic religion, and elements of shared culture
+there was no singular celtic culture
+but multiple celtic cultures
+--- 14893288
+>>14893184
+A minority that didn't conquer? Do you suppose Celts were Europe's version of Jews?
+--- 14893301
+>>14892131 (OP)
+--- 14893312
+>>14893288
+no as in people traded with celts and adopted their culture
+that and some celts migrated into the region and others in the region adopted the cutlure from them
+celts spread due to their at the time revolutionary ideas
+they invented things such as the iron plough, the horseshoe, they were the first people to embrace iron working and also steel, they invented chainmail, their military technologies were adopted by the romans and greeks
+they downfall came due to a total lack of unity among the celtic people and celtic cultures as a whole
+--- 14893342
+>>14893312
+>people traded with celts and adopted their culture
+Stopped reading there, come back when you studied the subject
+--- 14893376
+>>14893342
+I have, thoroughly for about 2 years now
+while yes celts fought battles and invaded terretories a lot of their expansion was through peaceful/semi-peaceful means
+
+im sorry if this disagrees with the idea people love of of 'heckin epic' naked blue barbarian warrior hoards howling at the moon sacrificing people in giant wickermen
+--- 14893385
+The Celts didn't spread as an iron age people to the west 
+
+They pretty much already existed in Western Europe by the time hallstat and la tène culture diffused, probably some time during the bronze age and were basically just reflexive migrations of bell beakers
+--- 14893396
+>>14893376
+Never once in the entirety of mankind's existence did a free nation voluntarily adopt the language of another nation without occupation and colonisation. This is a leftist fantasy that has never once occurred in history or prehistory.
+--- 14893418
+>>14893312
+>>14893288
+>>14893184
+Gauls contributed half of the autosomal dna in britons. Specially those from England and Wales 
+
+>who arrived at this time and over previous centuries, and who were genetically most similar to ancient individuals from France. >These migrants contributed about half the ancestry of people of England and Wales from the Iron Age, thereby creating a plausible vector for the spread of early Celtic languages into Britain.
+
+But only 10%-15% of the YDNA.
+It means celtic languages in britain are the result of a migration of celts that would eventually getting conquered and raped by the Britons. With the rapebabies adopting the language of the women that raised their children
+--- 14893419
+>>14893396
+i see you point but...
+The ruling elite would have likely been celts or adopted celtic culture and we're probably looking at changes over decades if not centuries, these cultures would have been celticisied over a period of time not over night
+and i do agree that it is fantasy to assume that this was all sunshine and roses, huggy and lovey dovey as the celtic culture still replaced and earlier one and would have likley put down any resistance if it appeared 
+my point was, that i may have oversimplified desu, is that they didnt conquer in the traditional sense like the romans
+the most comman one was probably through migration where they set off, picked up people along the way and converted the people in the destination to celtic culture
+genetic evidence shows the vast majority of people in celtic northern italy are the same as those before
+--- 14893421
+>>14893418
+>that would eventually getting conquered and raped by the Britons. With the rapebabies adopting the language of the women that raised their children
+Not strictly necessary, Y-DNA underachievement is consistent with Celtic culture as described here >>14892270, even if odd.
+--- 14893434
+>>14893419
+I would still call that conquest, just in the form taken by a somewhat-mobile tribal culture. Germanics and Slavs worked the same way, but better.
+--- 14893438
+>>14893418
+>celts that would eventually getting conquered and raped by the Britons
+do you mean saxons or pre-celtic britons as britons (brittonic peoples) themselves were celts?
+--- 14893443
+>>14893419
+Its weird because elite burials in iron and bronze age britain still R1b-L21. Also considered the Celtic social patterns (ckan based societies with division based on clans) the celtic ydna should be widespread while actually is rather low.
+Ita a more plausible scenario that celts spread through cultural difusion and migration without discarding that the later would end with the conquest of the Celtic migrants and the assimilation of their culture.
+--- 14893473
+>>14893443
+There is a curious thing and is that insular celtic languages are the most divergent branch. For some reason gaulish(the branch that would precede britonnic assumed this migration) is more similar to noric (southeastern celtic from austria) than it is to brittonic. While temporarily speaking the divergence time from noric should be more higher than from brittonic for gaulish.
+I wonder to which extent is goidelic and brittonic a creolle or of it actually diffused before
+--- 14893585
+>>14893473
+>I wonder to which extent is goidelic and brittonic a creolle or of it actually diffused before
+you mention that the sentance structure differs in insular languages and i know irish contains some words have and etymology not found in other celtic languages and im sure the same could be said for the other insular languages also
+i find the whole p vs q, insular vs continental divisions quite interesting
+--- 14893587
+If you've never read Asterix & Obelix you have no say or opinion about the continental Celts, at all.
+--- 14893656
+>>14893473
+>(the branch that would precede britonnic assumed this migration)
+Gaulish would have presumably mutated as such after the invasion of Britain already took place, Proto-Celtic/Common Celtic did not immediately dissolve upon formation, and the continental languages would be more similar to each other due to continuity while Britain is cut off by sea.
+--- 14893681
+>>14893656
+britain isnt exactly cut off though,
+the armorican people of north west gaul had large ships and their was constant cross channel traid
+ archaeologists in france excavating a gaulish (armorican) settlement in brittany found roundhouses alongside the normal square gaulish houses, which suggests an insular prescence
+i cant remeber the exact findings but iirc the roundhouses were in a seperate 'district' to the normal square ones, howere im not 100% sure
+they did find brittonic dna from some of the skeletons but im afraid i dont remeber any more specific details
+--- 14893715
+>>14893656
+but even then britonnic should resemble gaulish more than noric does, given the divergence dates. yet gaulish resemble more other continental languages than it resembles brittonic
+--- 14894052
+>>14892131 (OP)
+SPQR
+--- 14894096
+How could a people who never existed fall from grace?
+--- 14894101
+>>14892179
+>proto-celtic coalesced around the Atlantic coast about a thousand years before most academics assume (bronze age not iron age) and gradually spread eastwards across the continent (very fat east eventually)
+>this is why their modern successors exist where they do, it's basically their urheimat
+This is what celtaboos actually believe
+Complete and utter delusion
+--- 14894104
+>>14892131 (OP)
+Why has northern scotland been left out, the caledonians and later picts were brittonic celts?
+--- 14894233
+>>14894104
+Picts were goths
+--- 14894236
+>>14892197
+Actually there is, the R1b clades in the Rhineland are downstream from a Beaker find on the coast of France.
+--- 14894247
+>>14894233
+we wuz bullshit.
+--- 14894296
+>>14894233
+no they weren't, the picts were brittonic celts the closet living language is welsh, they followed celtic customs and relgion
+
+picts have been subject to a lot of historical revisionism, as people try to use them for their political aims
+>Picts were goths
+this idea was favoured and spread by the lowland scots who culturally descend from the saxons, they thought the picts being of germanic extraction gave legitimacy to their dominance of scotland, 'it was once ruled by germanics and it is so again'
+
+>picts were non-indoeuropean
+used by pro scottish independence supporters in the past to claim that the picts were so alien, so different, special and different that scotland has always been seperate from everything and should be again
+
+>picts were gaelic
+used by scotish nationalists who dont like the idea that the picts are culturally and linguisticly extinct, now that all scottish people fully embrace highland scottish culture as their own (despite the fact the lowland scots saw it as disgusting and primitive), they dont like the idea of highland scottish culture coming over one day from ireland and they certainly ignore the saxon origins of the lowland scottish culture
+they believe that the picts spoke a Q insular celtic language like irish or scottish gaelic and are the true cultural ancestors to the modern scot
+
+>picts were blue naked barbarian hoards who zergrushed their enemies
+pure fiction
+--- 14894382
+The Picts were Gaelic
+Dalriata was a Pictish fief
+You lost incel
+--- 14894397
+>>14894382
+>The Picts were Gaelic
+how come pictish is a brittonic language
+--- 14894430
+Evidence for Picts disappearing
+Latin usage stopped using the term Pict while vernacular people continued to refer to the people as Albannach, despite the fact this is inadvertently evidence against them not being Gaelic 
+A book written 150 years after Kenneth MacAlpin claims he wiped out every single Pict and coincidentally the writer was also racist to the people in Scotland because they practiced different Christian customs
+Some placenames in Scotland are supposedly non-Gaelic and all the Gaelic names outside Argyll would have been rapidly introduced after MacAlpin
+
+Evidence for it being Gaelic 
+Every inscription in Scotland that is fully understood is in Gaelic or Latin
+Many Pictish names can only be from Gaelic 
+One chronicle records the Pictish kingdom totally destroyed Dalriata 
+For at least two generations after MacAlpin the Pictish law of succession is still in place
+There no archaeological evidence for a genocide that would have had to been greater than that of the Anglo-Saxons
+There are Gaelic inscriptions in Shetland 
+Welsh books occasionally call the Picts Gaels and the Pictish origin myth implies they spoke Gaelic and did not speak a language like Welsh
+The best Irish chronicles do not record any conquest done by MacAlpin 
+King Ciric of Pictland was recorded to have seperated the Pictish church from the Dalriadan 40 years after MacAlpine
+An army that fought a Norwegian raider was described as Pictish after MacAlpin
+The evidence that records a supposed Dalriadan conquest is so late that it is almost worthless
+--- 14894465
+>>14894296
+>non-Indo-European 
+First suggested by a Welshman
+>>14894296
+>goths
+First suggested by an Orcadian who still identified with Norway
+--- 14894483
+>>14894430
+please explain the brittonic place names in formally pictish areas, please explain the brittonic resembling pictish loan words is scottish gealic
+please explain why scottish academics consider it brittoni
+and the welsh was prydyn coming from pretani meaning british
+the irish word for pict was cruithni coming from qritani which orginates from the same sources as above
+--- 14894500
+>>14894483
+>the brittonic place names in formally pictish areas
+Please list ones you want me to explain 
+>, please explain the brittonic resembling pictish loan words is scottish gealic
+Above
+>please explain why scottish academics consider it brittoni
+Because some 19th century linguists decided it
+In the 60s-90s people considered pictish to Basque
+Modern scholars easily change
+And we'll done ignoring all other points
+--- 14894503
+>>14894465
+>Orcadian larping as norse
+amazing. But also, Oh yeah I forgot those islands were settler colonized by the norse.
+--- 14894535
+>>14894247
+>>14894296
+>>14894483
+>>14894500
+picts were goths
+>And that these few Welsh names in Scotland are most easily accounted for because they are either very ancient as those of rivers and mountains especially and perhaps of some towns and in that case remains of the old Celtic inhabitants or less ancient as some of towns and villages which arose from churches founded by Welsh clergymen Having thus it is hoped satisfactorily answered the whole arguments if they deserve that name for the Piks being Welsh I shall give the reader an abstract of invincible authorities and facts shewing that they were not Welsh and then leaving this controversy proceed to detail the real origin of the Piks 1 Tacitus says that the Caledonians or Piks were of Germany as he judged from their red hair and other marks that they were Germans The Scandinavians ever have been and are remarkable for red hair as are the other Germans The Welsh and Irish are a black haired race These marks in the days of Tacitus were as decisive as that the African blacks have curled hair the Indian lank hair 2 Eumenius tells that in the time of Julius Cæsar the Piks were the accustomed enemies of the Britons Could the Britons or Welsh be the accustomed enemies of themselves 3 Ammianus Marcellinus mentions the Piks along with the Saxons and other foreign nations who in fested the Britons 4 Gildas says the Piks came ab aquilone from the north to infest the Britons and always speaks of them as quite a different people Had they been really of his own Welsh countrymen what food for declamations had their cruelty to their own brethren been 5 Adomnan who about 690 wrote the Life of Columba the apostle of the Piks mentions that he had an interpreter between him and that people Columba was an Irishman so that the Piks could not be Gael and even from this they would seem not Cumri for we find Patrick a Cumraig preached to the Irish without an interpreter as may be seen in
+--- 14894538
+>>14894535
+>interpreter is mentioned 6 Beda a writer eminently learned and superior to his age tells us the Piks came from Scythia as the Britons from Gaul and the Old Scots from Ireland Jornandes and most writers of the dark ages call Scandinavia Scythia and they thought the most ancient Scythians came from it Beda also says there were in his time five languages in Britain Latin English Pikish Scotish British 7 Nennius and Samuel who both lived and wrote in conjunction in 858 tell that the Piks came from the Orkneys about 300 years before Christ These writers were both Welsh and their testimony is conclusive that the Piks were not Welsh for they speak of the Piks while the Pikish name was in full power and mention the Piks as a people spreading in their own time from Galloway to the Orkneys 8 The Saxon Chronicle and whole writers of England and Wales and Scotland and Ireland preceding Camden amounting to perhaps a hundred of all ages who mention the Piks uniformly derive them from Scandinavia and the Orkneys 9 Giraldus Cambrensis positively calls the Piks gentem Gothicam a Gothic nation Even Geofrey of Monmouth says expressly that the Piks came from Scythia to the north of Britain and so downward And he ever describes them as quite a different people from the Welsh for which reason and as he founded a new school in English history he is quoted For though a fabulist he could not be ignorant if the Piks were Welsh or not as they existed in his time under their old name as appears from English writers of the War of the Standard 10 The Piks are uniformly mentioned by all ancient writers who speak of them though without telling their origin as a distinct peculiar people neitherWelsh nor Irish nor Gaelic but as different from either as English from Welsh
+--- 14894542
+>>14894538
+>11 The monuments of the Piks the Piks houses & c can neither be found in Wales nor Ireland though in the Orkneys many exist and some in Scandinavia 12 Nennius and Samuel avouch the Piks to have held their usual territory in 858 The Irish Annals of Tighernac and Ulster mention Kenneth and his successors down to Donal II 894 as kings of the Piks Ailred Richard of Hexham and other contemporary writers assert that at the War of the Standard 1138 the Piks claimed the first place in the Scotish army as their ancient right Now the west being given to the Irish the Piks were latterly inhabitants of the north east and south of Scotland as all know the people of which to this day are quite a distinct race from the Highlanders of the west And the language of these parts was always Gothic as innumerable names of places remain to shew and as it is at this day More arguments might be adduced but these are sufficient as they admit of no answer save by rejecting all ancient authorities and facts that is building romance on the ruins of history For he who denies ancient authorities and prefers his own conjectures is a fabulist and not a historian It also deserves remark that of modern authors those confessedly the most eminent for learning have always asserted the Piks to have come from Scandinavia.
+--- 14894577
+>>14894500
+>and the welsh was prydyn coming from pretani meaning british
+>the irish word for pict was cruithni coming from qritani which orginates from the same sources as above
+interesting you ignore the above
+
+>the brittonic place names in formally pictish areas
+caer meaning fort/stronghold - Cardean, Carey, Cargill, Carmurie, Carpow, Carpoway, Crail, Kair, Keir, Kercock, Kirkbuddo, Kirkcaldy, Caerlaverock
+pen meaning hill/top/head/cheif - Pandewen, Pennan, Pinderachy, Pinnel 
+dol meaning field - Dalfouper, Dallas, Dallasbraughty, Doll, Dollar, Dull 
+mign meaning swamp - Dalmigavie, Meckphen, Meigle, Megen, Megevie, Meggen, Meggernie, Midmar, Midstrath, Migdale, Migger, Migvie, Strathmiglo 
+coed meaning forrest/wood - Catochil, Inchkeith, Keith, Keith Lundie, Keithack, Keithick, Keithmore, Keithny, Keithney, Keithock, Kitattie, Rothket 
+tref meaning settlement - Cantray, Cantress, Menstrie, Montrave, Rattray, Tramaud, Trefor, Trefynie, Trostrie, Troustrie 
+bryn meaning hill - Burnbane, Burnturk, Newburn, Strathburn
+pant meaning hollow - Panbride, Panholes, Panlathy, Panmure, Pannanich
+llannerch meaning clearing - Landrick, Lanrick, Lendrick
+
+Aberdeen means mouth of the River Don - Welsh aber
+Cupar means confluence - Welsh cymer
+Kirkcald means place of the hard fort from caer - fort and caled - hard
+Perth means wood/grove - Welsh perth
+Yell means unfruitful land - Welsh iâl
+Caledonia - hard - Welsh Caled
+
+>please explain the brittonic resembling pictish loan words is scottish gealic
+preas - bush/thicket - Welsh prys
+bad - cluster - Breton bod
+pailt - plentiful - Cornish pals and Welsh pallt
+bagaid - cluster/troop - Welsh bagad
+dail - meadow - Welsh dôl
+monadh - mountain, moor - Welsh mynydd
+mormaer - earl - Welsh mawr + maer
+peasg - gash - Welsh pisg
+peit - small area of ground - Welsh peth)
+pòr - crops - Welsh pawr
+--- 14894661
+>>14894577
+>interesting you ignore the above
+What is it meant to prove?
+>caer
+Gaelic cathair pronounce ca-ir
+>penn
+Every one is used differently so they aren't the same word and the places they are used, like the majority of these words, would have been lost if Dalriadans conquered Pictland
+But for pinnan this is pretty clearly the Gaelic Binnean meaning "peak" or just curved hill
+>dol
+This is a Gaelic word too so the point is null
+>mign
+None of them actually record this and most make no sense at all given the places they are in
+>tref
+Gaelic treabh is the same
+>Pan
+There are many things these could be and none of them could be "hollow"
+>aber
+Nothing about this prohibits it being Gaelic and there is an example of it on the west coast of Scotland
+There is no chance it could survive there from a pre-Gaelic or norse settlement
+The rest are just inane and not worth anything
+
+The question is how could any of these survive a genocidal conquest which would have had to have resulted in entire counties being cleared of people districts?
+This question cannot be answered.
+For the last list after seeing mormhair used as an example I can see it would be fruitless to criticise it.
+--- 14894668
+>>14894577
+So my turn.
+You explain this
+Every inscription in Scotland that is fully understood is in Gaelic or Latin 
+Many Pictish names can only be from Gaelic
+One chronicle records the Pictish kingdom totally destroyed Dalriata and annexed it into Pictland 
+For at least two generations after MacAlpin the Pictish law of succession is still in place
+There no archaeological evidence for a genocide that would have had to been greater than that of the Anglo-Saxons
+There are Gaelic inscriptions in Shetland
+Welsh books occasionally call the Picts Gaels and the Pictish origin myth implies they spoke Gaelic and did not speak a language like Welsh
+The best Irish chronicles do not record any conquest done by MacAlpin
+King Ciric of Pictland was recorded to have seperated the Pictish church from the Dalriadan 40 years after MacAlpine
+An army that fought a Norwegian raider was described as Pictish after MacAlpin
+The evidence that records a supposed Dalriadan conquest is so late that it is almost worthless
+Even cymric supporters suppose that Kenneth had a Pictish mother which would make him a Pict
+--- 14894688
+>>14894577
+also lets look at some pictish personal names
+Ciniod - containd iod which is brittonnic meaning lord - Welsh udd
+Mailcon - Noble dog - Welsh Maelgwn
+Resad - related to Welsh Rhys and Gaulish Ressatus
+
+>The question is how could any of these survive a genocidal conquest which would have had to have resulted in entire counties being cleared of people districts?
+>This question cannot be answered.
+
+The Picts werent genocided they were assimilated
+
+>how could any of these survive a genocidal conquest which would have had to have resulted in entire counties being cleared of people districts?
+how many rivers in england are still called avon long after the romans and the saxons conquered
+how many countles place names engaland have a birttonic origin
+
+>>14894661
+>>14894668
+Both of you are ignoring the work of academics because it doesnt fit your own idea, let me know when your ideas get accepted by anyone of note
+--- 14894702
+>>14894661
+no one cares man
+--- 14894729
+>>14894688
+>Mailcon - Noble dog - Welsh Maelgwn
+That's Gaelic as well
+Mal and con are both attested in Gaelic
+>ciniod
+From cin and aedh it means "rising flame"
+Idk about resad
+>The Picts werent genocided they were assimilated
+Not according to all medieval records which made this idea
+You can't pick and choose like that
+>>14894688
+>rivers
+These are notorious across the world for keeping their names
+Small towns full of people that must have been killed aren't
+>the work of academics
+all of my knowledge is from academics
+All of yours is copy and pasted from Wikipedia
+--- 14894736
+>>14894702
+"please explain the brittonic place names in"
+--- 14894774
+>>14894236
+>R1b clades in the Rhineland are downstream from a Beaker find on the coast of France.
+no they aren't, r1b clades of rhineland are downstream from a corded ware guy from central europe and after that found in neolithic period sweden, then in bell beaker netherlands
+--- 14894778
+>>14894774
+>>14894236
+btw neolithic as in dagger period/CWC, not ""neolithic"" as in farmer
+--- 14894830
+>>14894736
+>>14894729
+>>14894702
+>>14894688
+>>14894668
+>>14894661
+>>14894577
+>It has been amply shewn that the Piks were a Gothic people and the inhabitants of all present Scotland and its isles The Gaël or Celts in Scotland do not now exceed one quarter of the people The Lowlanders of Scotland amount to two thirds of its inhabitants Of the other third being Highlanders and people of the Isles a great part consists of Goths though now using the Celtic tongue For the Old Scots who came into Argyle in 503 were from the north of Ireland and were mixt with Crutheni or Piks inhabitants of these parts though the tongue had been lost in the surrounding Celtic In the Hebudes and in Argyle and the north of Scotland the Norwegians were lords for four centuries from the ninth and they in like manner lost their speech among the more numerous Celts When these parts returned to the Scotish crown the inhabitants remained as before The chief families in the Highlands are all of Norwegian extract The Celtic Mac is nothing it is the name itself we must judge from Thus the Mac Leods are so called from Liod Earl of Orkney: the Mac Sweyns Mac Neils with a score of others all bear the Mac with a Norwegian name Even when the second name is Celtic it was often taken by a Norwegian to gratify his subjects or bestowed by a Highland bard as the Mac Donalds are known to be direct male descendants of Reginald Earl of Orkney These Highland bards it is well known will alter a plain Gothic name to a Celtic one in a moment and are very ready in aspersing people with this honour A part of the Isles still speaks the Gothic tongue namely the whole Orkney and Shetland Isles The other parts speak Gaëlic but of them a great part are Goths though their speech be lost in that of the most numerous people
+--- 14894836
+>>14894736
+you've been posting this shit for years and no one believes you or cares you're a figure of ridicule and known boardwide as a meme get a life you freak
+--- 14894850
+>>14894836
+okay so you can't actual rebuke anything i've posted 
+i accept your concession
+and also stop pretending anyone but you cares about this
+you're obsessed
+you need help
+--- 14895072
+>>14892131 (OP)
+Africa if you genuinely belive Afrocentrist view of history (despite the fact modern middle class africans have better living standard then the richest pre-colonial king)
+--- 14895642
+>>14894101
+No, that is what retarded larpers with 0% Celtic ancestry actually believe. Now we know the Irish are 0% Celtic genetically they only speak the language of invading Celts.
+--- 14895645
+>>14895642
+>they only speak the language of invading Celts.
+Uh... anon...
+--- 14895804
+>>14894236
+No, they aren't, and in fact R1b-p312 diversity is highest around the Rhine. (Steppe) Bell Beaker begins archeologically around the Rhine. Steppe ancestry is highest radiating from the Rhine outward etc.
+--- 14895876
+>>14895804
+No, diversity for subclades of R1b-p312 are found in the Netherlands and British Isles, with more basal P312 itself being from France.
+>Bell Beaker begins at the Rhine
+no, it is clearly from a migration out of Germany and Poland from early Corded Ware who expanded in less than a hundred years across Western Europe replacing or ruling Megalithic peoples.
+>steppe ancestry is highest from the Rhine outward
+Its highest in North Eastern Germany and retained a level of purity in the British isles.
+Celtic culture is simply northern post beaker it didnt "spread"
+It would be like saying American culture spread from Texas to California in 1950 because California began making cowboy films.
+--- 14895890
+>>14895804
+ So Luxenburger steppe beakers -> belgium celts -> Irish celts ?
+--- 14895898
+>>14895876
+The Rhine is in the Netherlands and British Beakers are from the Rhine.
+>basal P312 itself being from France
+this doesn't exist, post the sample id
+>no, it is clearly from a migration out of Germany and Poland from early Corded Ware who expanded in less than a hundred years across Western Europe replacing or ruling Megalithic peoples.
+Bell Beaker typology develops out of Single Grave wares. Regardless, it's from the east, not the atlantic coast.
+>Its highest in North Eastern Germany and retained a level of purity in the British isles.
+The highest Steppe samples in bell beaker contexts are Dutch Beakers.
+--- 14895900
+>>14895893
+what does this mean
+--- 14895904
+>>14895890
+I don't think Celts are directly from Beakers, but emerges much later from Bell Beaker descendant R-L2 people.
+--- 14895974
+>>14895904
+The estimated effective migration surface of Ireland and Britain from 1803 Irish and British individuals. Shown are the posterior mean migration rates of the six independent EEMS chains
+
+The low density is posterior migration, if I interpreted that correctly. 
+
+so basically celts are iron age mutts or??
+The blue is of the original megalithic culture.
+--- 14896485
+>>14894830
+Celticists absolutely obliterated
+--- 14896543
+What modern populations have the most Celtic ancestry?
+--- 14896790
+>>14892131 (OP)
+>Celtic thread
+>Retards saying yoooo they be megalith people from the Atlantic
+>Hablogrubs retards galore
+>Yoooo nigga, picts were goths and shit (even though goths didn't even fucking exist in 250bc) retards
+>"The celts didn't even exist" retards
+
+Ahh, another day in /his/.
+--- 14896855
+>>14896790
+Can you read you dumb fking nigger?
+--- 14896922
+>>14895904
+They expanded out of the Alps to conquer the entire Bell Beaker network and enslaved them.
+--- 14897322
+>>14896790
+Subhuman Germutt Anglos have a special interest in "disproving" anything good about the Celts. They love using Victorian schizo sources for their claims that they're actually Cimmerian Israelites rather than enslaved mongrels.
+--- 14897480
+>>14892131 (OP)
+>R1b expansion
+Ftfy. We literally control the world btw
+--- 14897485
+>>14897480
+R1b was already widespread.
+In fact celts failed to expand much paternally. They only expanded arround the alps where they were already majority.
+ A bit into balkans.... then southwards jnto iberia... a little bit into central france, in belgium its proxied maternally (belgium dominant ydna always was r1b-u106).. thats it. In britain and northern france celtic culture was proxied maternally as dominant ydna is r1b-l21 in spite of being half celtic autosomally
+--- 14897486
+Picts = Gaelic
+--- 14897487
+>>14892179
+Mental illness
+--- 14897492
+>>14897485
+A purely linguistic distinction. R1b has ruled the world for thousands of years.
+--- 14897508
+*ahem*
+
+maritime Bell Beakers
+
+>The earliest copper production in Ireland, identified at Ross Island in the period 2400–2200 BC, was associated with early Beaker pottery.[2][25] Here, the local sulpharsenide ores were smelted to produce the first copper axes used in Britain and Ireland.[2] The same technologies were used in the Tagus region and in the west and south of France.[2][26] The evidence is sufficient to support the suggestion that the initial spread of Maritime Bell Beakers along the Atlantic and into the Mediterranean, using sea routes that had long been in operation, was directly associated with the quest for copper and other rare raw materials.[2]
+--- 14898437
+>>14896790
+>>14897322
+the irish seethe hard when they find out the group that they've been LARPing as for hundreds of years never existed and was invented in the 18th century
+--- 14898450
+>>14897486
+picts=gothic
+>Tacitus the first writer who mentions the people of Caledonia or Piks expresses his opinion that they were of German origin Beda tells us they came from Scythia a name which Jornandes about 530 had given to Scandinavia and which continued to be applied to that country till the eleventh century when the special denominations of Denmark Sweden and Norway became known to all Europe All the other ancient writers who mention the origin of the Piks derive them from Scandinavia so that no doubt can remain save with such superficial writers as speak of opinions when they should speak of facts and prefer their own weak conceits to that positive evidence upon which alone all ancient history stands Indeed to judge from reason only it might readily be inferred that the Piks a people as all the ancients shew quite different from the old Scots or Irish and from the old Britons or Welsh as possessing North Britain could only originate from a country near to North Britain as Norway is And when reason and ancient authorities thus coalesce they constitute that highest degree of historical truth which even approaches to mathematical demonstration In Scandinavia therefore that large peninsular track including Norway Sweden and a part of Denmark we are to look for the Piks and while we find a people of the same name in the south of Norway the part next to Scotland the evidence becomes as complete as human history can afford
+--- 14898455
+>>14897322
+>>14898437
+The Irish are buck broken for having the culture and language of their Celtic masters, but the English are actual cuckolds who got their indigenous L21 lineages extinct and replaced by Germano-Celtic ones.
+--- 14898464
+>>14898455
+>Germano-Celtic
+R1b-u106 is Bell beaker/dagger period scandinavian.
+English are 40% scandinavian, 20% bell beaker 40% gaulish according to the anglosaxon paper
+--- 14898481
+>>14892131 (OP)
+The Greeks. Culturally, influentially, just in every way imaginable.
+--- 14898485
+>>14898464
+English aren't even 20% Scandinavian or Gaulish. They're descended from indigenous British Isles populations like the rest of the British isles. They're identical to the Welsh except for 2% Norwegian and of course lacking their original L21 after the hard rape they got from Romans, France, Germany and Norway.
+--- 14898497
+>>14898485
+>>14898485
+>English aren't even 20% Scandinavian or Gaulish. They're descended from indigenous British Isles populations like the rest of the British isles
+Lol no they arent. Red is scandinavian/dutch
+Green is french iron age/gaul
+If anything english being 40% Gaul autosomaly but less than 13% r1b-u152/df27 of the french subclades is gauls getting cucked
+
+Romans left 0 genetic inpact in britain
+Sorry
+--- 14898507
+>>14898497
+This is referring to U106 French rape of L21 English women. Actual Celts have 0% French ancestry according to that.
+--- 14898532
+>>14893418
+Study?
+--- 14898534
+>>14898497
+Study?
+--- 14898539
+>>14898507
+>U106 French
+French are not u106. U106 is a north sea germanic subclade found in dutch, Flemish, danes and norwegians. If anything again. It suggest r1b-u152 french gauls handed their women to U106 Men..
+British are autosomally less or at best 30% beaker
+--- 14898546
+>>14898539
+Gaulish samples had U152, U106, and DF27. Modern French have U106 and they're the ones who raped the L21 out of England.
+--- 14898557
+>>14898546
+Nope. Not a single r1b-u106 was found west of the rhine (except on britain) before the iron age crossing of the rhine
+
+R1b-u106 represents less than 10% of modern french ydna
+Sorry. It means french gaulish women were handed to u106 men from england.
+--- 14898574
+>>14898557
+Nope. Not a single r1b-u106 was found west of the rhine (except in France) before the iron age crossing of the rhine.
+
+Are you saying the Gaulish(France_IA) migration occurred after the Anglo-Saxons arrived?
+--- 14898578
+>>14898539
+The French are Germanic, the Gaul LARP is a post WW2 thing.
+--- 14898583
+>>14898574
+r1b-u106 was never found in france before the crossing of the rhine :(((
+--- 14898594
+>>14898583
+R1b-u106 was never found in Britain before the crossing of the rhine :(((
+
+It was first brought by French and Germans, unless you're saying the Gaulish migration occurred after the German Anglo-Saxons arrived?
+--- 14898658
+>>14898594
+nope, R1b-u106 is from bell beakers from the netherlands and scandinavian CWC :(((, it means is a beaker haplo so it can be carried by british beakers :(
+--- 14899343
+>>14898658
+>it means is a beaker haplo 
+Yes that's why Celts had it and 0 British samples had it prior to Celts conquering the British Isles.
+--- 14899576
+>>14898578
+French are mostly EEF like meds and unlike germanics.
+--- 14899596
+>>14899576
+Nah, they have the same amount of EEF as Germans. 
+
+The Frankish Empire people's are all the same
+--- 14900036
+>>14899343
+>conquering
+All Celtic admixture in the British isles or rather continental admixture prior to the Anglo-Saxons is maternal.
+Even after the Anglo Saxons R1b L21 JOMON dominates the male lines in the British isles.
+Not only did early Anglo Saxons outnumber Britons, they completely jobbed to them.
+The Welsh themselves are 50% Anglo-Saxon and 95% L21, a result of taking too many women from the "English".
+--- 14900041
+>>14900036
+cope
+--- 14900050
+>>14900036
+Welsh are not even 20% anglosaxon >>1489849 only eastern Welsh. Who are anglosaxon rapebabies effectively
+--- 14900120
+>>14892131 (OP)
+:'(
+--- 14900151
+>>14899596
+No, germans are mostly yamnaya while french are mostly eef
+--- 14900183
+>>14900151
+I'm gonna delete that fucking website if you retards keep misusing it.
+
+The _ percentage is utterly meaningless. Your farher is only 50% related to you, doesn't mean you're another ethnicity.
+--- 14900198
+>>14900183
+>Your farher is only 50% related to you, doesn't mean you're another ethnicity.
+Yes it does. 
+
+Also, ethnicity = culture, race = genes
+--- 14900200
+>>14893301
+>conquer shitholes and deserts
+>make them into "proper" nations
+>change your mind, give them independence and then leave
+wtf britain
+--- 14900203
+>>14900151
+French have 7% more EEF thaan germans
+But 10% more yamnaya than the northernmost meds/africans
+--- 14900212
+>>14900120
+Vgh…land once dogger bank to Alaska
+--- 14900253
+>>14900041
+>>14900050
+no, Welsh have 45-50% non-British DNA which comes from Continentals, it first appeared in the Iron Age during the migration era and increased over time as contact with the Saxons went on, however Welsh Y DNA has remained heavily R1b L21.
+
+robust heavy bearded powerfully built muscular broad shouldered Silurae spread their WHG (hyper autochthonous) derived curly hair to those "fair" english "roses" while saxon 'men' watched in horror as the Sons of Taranis dominated and subjugated that semi-aquatic continental fauna.
+--- 14900269
+>>14900198
+ethnicity is ancestry, you have no idea what ethnicity is.
+>no its culture
+What identity is, is a question of popular opinion, and you are not inline with the popular opinion.
+--- 14900303
+>>14900253
+you will never be celtic
+keep making up deranged sexual fantasies though
+--- 14900443
+>>14900253
+>British
+>Starts fantsizing about black skinned, curly haired, muscular men out of blue
+
+Never change
+--- 14900623
+>>14900303
+I am Celtic Jomon.
+>>14900443
+>black skinned
+who? Saxon Oranges who turn swarthy in the sun?
+>curly haired
+curly, not kinky, exclusively Europeans have curly hair which retains its lush ringlets, whereas other races have kinky negro hair even when their hair is wavy its stringy.
+>muscular men
+average celt
+--- 14901365
+>>14900623
+The minds of everyone in this thread are very swarthy.
+--- 14901655
+>>14900623
+Mental illness
+You will never be celtic
+--- 14901715
+>>14901655
+Who are the Celts then?
+--- 14901753
+>>14901715
+they never existed
+--- 14901820
+>>14901753
+Isn't mental illness and i say that in jest anon.
+
+g gauls are what we'd consider celts.
+--- 14901886
+>>14892571
+What could have been...
+--- 14902361
+>>14900203
+>10% more yamnaya
+3% in south france
+--- 14902675
+>>14892131 (OP)
+India
+--- 14902687
+>>14902361
+Who cares about those. Is like picking brittany to prove something
+--- 14903656
+>>14901820
+they never existed
+--- 14904007
+>>14903656
+National haplo grouping
+>no "celtic" grouping
+
+This sounds like butthurt Anglo rapprochement . Just because there isn't a "Celtic" grouping doesn't mean the Britons scotts irish cormwals dutch don't share genetic affinity. 
+
+also can you link the study pretty pwz
+--- 14904019
+>>14892131 (OP)
+
+> Name a bigger fall from grace.
+
+Not even a fucking contest.
+--- 14904024
+>>14904007
+>dutch
+wat? dutch are germanics
+--- 14904192
+>>14904024
+
+look >>14903656
+
+maybe you are conflating Dutch with the Flemish, Who clearly never existed.
+--- 14904488
+>>14892131 (OP)
+>Name a bigger fall from grace.
+
+Scythian steppe dominance

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+-----
+--- 14893670
+Why is Orthdoxy on the rise?
+--- 14893687
+Because white kids in the western world with no identity have no cultural precedence for it so they project and idolize the fuck out of it and swallow all of it's memes whole.
+--- 14893700
+>>14893670 (OP)
+American “men,” especially millennials and gen xers, are manchildren whose identity is tied into “things” whether they be funkopops or cars.
+
+In this case, these manchildren treat Orthodox Christianity as an exotic “thing” that they measure their devotion to by their growing collection of books and icons. Icons are more or less the same as funkopops to them. Most likely to do not go to church regularly, if at all, and most spend more time debating online or being “content creators” than actually spending time devoting themselves to God.
+--- 14893710
+tradcaths disillusioned with catholicism + LARPers that like byzantines because they featured in their map-colouring games = western orthodogs
+--- 14893743
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Where are the stats?
+--- 14893769
+The lamp/light and presence of God resides in One Church like God in the 2nd Temple.
+
+It all goes back to the Uncreated Light, God’s presence and physicality need to be present in One Body.
+
+Catholic Scholasticism combined their beliefs with Platonism and other philosophies/man made doctrines. Protestantism is Nestorianism as it denies the physicality of Faith. Both lead straight to atheism/secularism, but it isn’t a “Western” problem
+--- 14893778
+>>14893700
+>In this case, these manchildren treat Orthodox Christianity as an exotic “thing” that they measure their devotion to by their growing collection of books and icons.
+Perfect encapsulation.
+--- 14893789
+Average orthodog convert in the comments of that vid.
+--- 14893796
+This is now an orthodog bashing thread
+--- 14893812
+Catholics who are disillusioned with modern Catholicism, Baptists who want the actual, original Christianity (I know there are Baptist converts in Mount Athos)
+--- 14893993
+>>14893796
+>Toll House Chocolate Chip Cookie Sandwich
+
+?
+--- 14894003
+>>14893670 (OP)
+
+Its not. Russia has like a 7% church attendance rate, and only ones who go to church are grannies. they also have an ungodly abortion rate. Not to mention, Orthodox countries are all really corrupt.
+--- 14894293
+Why are all the OrthoLARPer converts such huge Russaboos and Zfags? Is it because of the history and infkuence of the OCA and ROCOR? It's weird how they never convert to Greek or Serbian Orthodox, it's always Russian.
+--- 14894312
+>>14894293
+They're attracted to power or at least the perception of it. The Kremlin convinced them that it's a counterweight to the Western liberal elites they don't like, so they hope that by converting to Russian Orthodoxy, they can borrow some of the Kremlin's power, or at least perceived power.
+
+They're the equivalent of Koreans converting to American Protestant sects in the 1920s, or black Americans in the 1960s joining Islam.
+--- 14894334
+>>14894293
+I’m just a slavophile and I’ve always been. I don’t think that influenced my religious life, only my gun purchases
+But I go to a Greek Orthodox Church because it’s what’s closest to me and I really like both of the priests there.
+--- 14894351
+>>14893993
+>he doesn't know about the toll-houses
+Someone's not going to trad heaven
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_toll_house
+https://orthodoxwiki.org/Aerial_Toll-Houses
+--- 14894353
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Idk bruh but some American Orthos are the most retarded people I've ever talked to... it seems many join it just to be "counter" culture even religiously.
+t. Slavic Ortho
+--- 14894355
+>>14894351
+Toll houses aren’t real and only schizos think they are
+--- 14894360
+>>14894353
+You’re definitely right
+t. American ortho convert
+--- 14894366
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Lots of young men in America struggle to accept their homosexual desires. They get horny thinking about big cocks and jerk off thinking about fucking a twink's tight hole.
+
+It scares them, so they seek refuge, with other repressed homosexuals, amongst the incense and chants.
+--- 14894367
+>>14894366
+Speaking from experience?
+--- 14894543
+>>14893670 (OP)
+new age/buddhism for chuds
+--- 14894547
+>>14894543
+Yep
+--- 14894569
+>>14893670 (OP)
+see
+>>14893687
+>>14893700
+>>14894543
+--- 14894607
+It has ancient drip and hasn't neglected it in an attempt to appeal to the masses the way the Papists did, and its dysfunctions are opaque to Americans.
+A lot of the EO Church's self-narrative (for instance the whole "spiritual against Roman rationalism") was basically invented in the 19th century to try to distinguish itself from RC.
+--- 14894622
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Amerimutts are retarded protestants who hate the Catholic church. Since American christians realize how bogus protestant bullshit is, they seek to convert. But since their amerimutt DNA is programmed to hate catholics, they default to the next best thing, which is orthodoxy.
+--- 14894633
+>>14894607
+--- 14894640
+>>14893687
+>>14893700
+>>14893710
+>>14893778
+>>14893796
+>>14894293
+>>14894312
+>>14894366
+>>14894543
+>>14894622
+>>14894633
+why so negative, jeez louise
+--- 14894678
+>>14894633
+There is WR Orthodoxy.
+--- 14894692
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Because it is the truth.
+--- 14894720
+>>14894692
+>>14894640
+>>14894640
+--- 14894724
+All these "orthodogs" who were former baptists or grew up in evangelical households should read this book before they continue spewing up the lies told to them by their priests.
+--- 14894735
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Catholicism straying away from Christianity and towards the western bs
+--- 14894793
+>>14893670 (OP)
+The faith is an excellent source of meaning in this meaningless world. We are born into an existential void, and we seek comfort in divine authority to escape this misery.
+--- 14894801
+>why is orthodoxy on the rise
+do you actually have anything to back that up with beyond a clickbait thumbnail
+--- 14894919
+Trad LARPERS and retard evangelicals enamored by a foreign culture and ritual trappings. Also contrarianism notched up to eleven. It's like being a special snowflake but also "based." Orthodox are like 1% of US Christians iirc. 
+
+Got nothing against the Orthodox but some of these converts have the most retarded reasoning behind their decision. 
+
+Also may not be entirely true:
+https://northamanglican.com/there-is-no-traditionalist-liturgical-revival-happening-yet/
+--- 14894925
+>>14894724
+Based.
+--- 14895101
+Evangelicals here have nothing to offer but rock concerts with zoomers hopping around, Kanye who promotes some cool acceptable form of anti-semitiism and business style church conferences where they talk about efficacies of sola scriptura, rinse and repeat the same set of topic for the last 70 odd years.
+
+Give me one thing evangelicalism does that is unique to them that triumphs over orthodoxy, I am waiting
+--- 14895105
+>>14895101
+also I'm not even orthodox because I think generally real orthodox are repulsed by 4chan and meme culture
+I'm a post-christian/post-evangelical if anything
+--- 14895109
+>>14893687
+Just say you hate white people next time.
+--- 14895110
+>>14893812
+The guys at Mount Athos never heard the phrase "be fruitful and multiply".
+--- 14895115
+>>14894293
+I like Russians but I converted to Protestantism from Roman Catholicism.
+--- 14895122
+>>14894622
+Wrong.
+--- 14895149
+Wait till converts find what the entire culture and family surrounding Orthodoxy really means.
+--- 14895169
+>>14895101
+Evangelicals and reformed folks in general tend to produce really good sermons since they don't give a fuck about sacraments. The whole personal relationship with God thing is cool too.
+
+t. used to be evangelical
+--- 14895521
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Anyone who converts to Orthodoxy for political reasons and not spiritual reasons is a Chud, plain and simple.
+--- 14895553
+>>14894633
+I just don’t like the legalism of Catholicism or the papacy 
+Also purgatory is dumb
+--- 14895600
+>>14893670 (OP)
+I fills a unique niche in the american christian ecosystem of having a big and old intellectual tradition while not being catholicism. Also its the second biggest single christian church so it makes sense it would eventually find its way into being an established player especially as old protestantism falls on its face and catholicism isnt being its old reactionary self
+As well protestantism doesnt know how to deal with it very well due to never having had to argue with it (being relegated to being a backwater religion in europe does that) and western catholics lack experiance with it
+--- 14895613
+>>14895521
+Most non-immigrant Orthodox in the US are negroes or Alaskan Injuns.
+--- 14895614
+>>14893670 (OP)
+>OMG ORTHODOX ROSE FROM .001% to .001001% 
+Orthox countries are the most atheist in the world. The religion won't even exist in 100 years.
+--- 14895619
+>>14895613
+This is literally not true. You will find more Catholic blacks than orthos
+--- 14895626
+>>14895600
+>Orthodox has a big and old intellectual tradition in the USA
+Orthodox has 100,000 practicing followers in the USA, time for you to go shill somewhere else.
+--- 14895638
+>>14895614
+2 more weeks and Christianity disappears forever
+--- 14895652
+>>14895619
+Correct, because Orthodoxy is an incredibly niche religion that only has a following in the US among Eastern European immigrants, negroes, and Alaskan Injuns. There's more Wiccans in the US than there are Orthodox who aren't, as mentioned, immigrants.
+--- 14895656
+>>14895638
+Ivan, Orthodox isn't Christian, its not even a religion, the head of your 'church' is a literal communist (atheist).
+--- 14895821
+>>14895626
+>I CANT READ!!!1!
+As expected from /his/tard
+--- 14896316
+>>14894919
+arent "trad larpers" basically just people who respect the actual christian teachings and not modern day sin worship that is taught in order to "put butts in seats" as they say and appeal to modern sensibilities?
+--- 14896363
+>>14893687
+There’s nothing wrong with being a theist and simultaneously not humoring organized religion at the same time.
+--- 14896371
+>>14895638
+>orthodogs
+>christian
+--- 14896393
+>>14894003
+>Russia has like a 7% church attendance rate, and only ones who go to church are grannies
+I'm generalizing a bit, but Russians seem much more "anarchistic" in reality, or nihilistic might be a better way of putting it, like believing in nothing and not trusting anybody outside people they either know really well or their family members. They're really not these trad people, like at all, but the other side of that coin of indifference is not caring about what other people believe or basically respecting it, which makes disrespecting the Orthodox Church a politically incorrect thing (even if they don't go to church), and the Orthodox Church also doesn't seem particularly evangelistic about what they do. They're not exactly knocking on my door trying to convert me.
+
+https://youtu.be/DpSTtB71M_8 [Embed]
+
+>>14895105
+>I think generally real orthodox are repulsed by 4chan and meme culture
+Most institutions that 4chan meme culture tries to move into are repulsed by it. It's one thing to do it on the internet, imagine talking to people like that in real life, especially if it's a grown-ass man saying "based" to you. It's disgusting or, at the very least, cringeworthy.
+--- 14896432
+>>14893710
+>tradcaths disillusioned with catholicism
+Is the Pope gonna excommunicate the channers?
+
+https://youtu.be/NRt2cKvJLlE?t=92 [Embed]
+--- 14896455
+>>14893670 (OP)
+>Stopped in to a church
+>I passed along the way
+>Well, I got down on my knees 
+>And I pretend to pray
+>You know the preacher liked the cold 
+>He knows I'm gonna stay 
+>California dreamin' 
+>On such a winter's day.
+--- 14896531
+Unironically true
+--- 14896540
+>>14895638
+Continuously between 1958 and 2013 the church has lost more members than it has gained
+--- 14896554
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Is it really?
+--- 14896604
+>>14896316
+Most trad larpers don't actually believe in God. They just follow it because they think it will help them get laid.
+--- 14896639
+>>14893789
+I discovered it though memes too. Doesn't mean it's a meme religion though
+--- 14896644
+>>14893796
+Literally me.
+But I see nothing wrong with this.
+--- 14896660
+>>14896639
+Lmao. The absolute state.
+--- 14896751
+>>14894622
+This.
+American Protestantism has done more damage to Christianity in the past century than every Muslim faction in the world managed to accomplish in over a millennium.
+--- 14896789
+>>14896751
+>Pope worship is Christianity
+--- 14897345
+>>14896789
+--- 14897360
+>>14896644
+You realize God and Hell are real right? You shouldn't decide what to believe based on online memes, it's actually a serious matter. And you certainly shouldn't choose a religion based on which is politically more epicly based.
+--- 14897401
+>>14897360
+>And you certainly shouldn't choose a religion based on which is politically more epicly based.
+You kinda should though.
+--- 14897468
+>>14897360
+Nobody decided to believe because of memes dumbass. It's the memes that lead you to read about the history, theology and do actual research
+--- 14897549
+>>14894724
+Read it, it all boils down to points that any former Baptist (like myself) should have dealt with before they seriously considered conversion.
+>The EO worship icons!
+Icons are windows into heaven, they are a representation of the people God has worked marvelous things through in order to show us His glory. This is a running theme when talking to people about Orthodoxy. Respect/veneration does not equal worship,
+>inb4 Icoooner
+I have two, they were both gifts and I’m probably going to give one to a friend. 
+>They worship Mary!
+I had this idea the first time I was invited to a liturgy. It seemed like they brought up Mary a lot. That’s just because in most Protestant churches Mary is brought up maybe twice a year, once around Christmas and once around Mother’s Day. Of course, being used to that, hearing about Mary twice in an hour is a huge increase, but it makes up maybe 1% of the service. Again, I have to bring up that respect doesn’t equal worship. Of course God is the only one that is worthy of worship, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have reverance for anybody else in the Bible. 
+>Orthodox churches can become cultural enclaves! 
+He’s right, it’s a problem that needs correction, but to pretend that’s it more of a problem in Orthodoxy than Protestantism is laughable. I’ve been a member of a Greek Orthodox church for several years. I don’t have a drop of Greek blood and I can’t speak a word of the language beyond “Christos anesti!”, but that’s never been a problem and I’m perfectly welcome there. The last Baptist church I went to was the complete opposite. I went to a Fundamental Baptist Church because I was sick of the liberal crap the church my family went to was pushing. In the year I was there I saw two couples and another guy like me come and go because if you weren’t in one of the families that had been going there for 20 years you weren’t worth speaking to.
+--- 14897563
+>>14897549
+God bless you, brother, from a cradle Greek Orthodox in North America.
+--- 14897566
+>>14893670 (OP)
+it's the last stage of sedevacantism
+--- 14897654
+>>14893687
+It's basically this generation's "born again" nonsense.
+
+Bunch of fucking aimless, drifters looking for someone to give them direction and purpose.
+--- 14897660
+>>14894293
+Because there's a giant psyop campaign over the internet coming out of Russia to make it seem like a great place doing great things.
+--- 14897668
+>>14895101
+>Give me one thing evangelicalism does that is unique to them
+Their entire mantra is "feels not reals".
+--- 14897827
+>>14893670 (OP)
+My thoughts are that Catholicism has not managed to handle well the modern age post-Vatican II. In trying to appeal to the world and the current age, it's like their tradition/faith demoted itself and instead of being a rock (as Catholics constantly love to claim thanks to their Pope) always holding against the currents of the ages, they became a "hip" and "inclusive" pebble that was taken over.
+
+The culmination is their current borderline heretical Pope trying to avert a new schism regarding the wokist German Catholic bishops. If they lose this battle as well, I foresee an even bigger exodus from everywhere but the most 3rd world countries.
+
+Eastern Orthodoxy with some of the issues that it faces as well, like the one with Russia, is a tradition/faith a lot more steeped on the mystical and traditional. While the Pope for example was paying respect to religious idols from all around the world, most of the Orthodox wanted nothing to do with other denominations to the point of hostility (now I may not agree with this but it gives you the idea) and try to hold strong to their faith at all costs.
+
+This superior stability of the EOC (despite being a pretty decentralized church compared to the Catholic one) can greatly appeal to lost to pieces protestants or disillusioned Catholics.
+--- 14899123
+>>14893670 (OP)
+It's seen as a alternative to the globohomo infiltrated western churches
+--- 14899248
+reminder all orthodox trads are now reduced to simping for a chinese communist leader to beg him to save russia
+--- 14899276
+>>14893687
+whenever a leftie mentions white people its always with contempt
+--- 14899316
+>>14894720
+Here's your "voice of god", bro
+https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2018/may/21/the-pope-says-god-made-gay-people-just-as-we-should-be-heres-why-his-comments-matter
+--- 14899536
+>>14893687
+>defending the gay Pope and Tranny protestants 
+Lmao
+--- 14899581
+>>14899276
+stop acting contemptible and people will stop making fun of you for chasing meme religions that you only join to own the libs
+--- 14899598
+>>14893670 (OP)
+for every 1 American who converted to Orthodox Christianity, there are 100 dead believers in Ukraine.
+--- 14899877
+Is Ubi Petrus actually considered good apologetics against Catholicism? Orthobros rave about him but I watched this video and it was one of the most pretentious, obfuscating things I have ever seen in my life. 80% of it is just reading long quotes of Church Fathers extremely slowly and then saying it furthers his point even if it is completely unrelated. And then he does the gay moving-the-goalposts thing where he says Orthodoxy doesn't have any official teaching on this to avoid taking any vulnerable position.
+And he supports Saint Augustine's arguments the entire video only to at the end randomly bring in Saint Basil to BTFO Augustine with a single quote lol to show the superiority of Eastern Christianity
+like am I too stupid to see the quality of the arguments?
+https://youtu.be/fGO8sXtlHd4 [Embed]
+--- 14899945
+Has anyone else noticed one thing the Orthodox and Muslims have in common is that they never cite sources or statistics for their claims?
+--- 14900815
+>>14893812
+>>14894724
+>>14894622
+Yeah it's true. I know this Orthodox guy at my work who told me his entire Orthodox parish is made of Evangelical converts (including himself)
+Something has to be done about the Protestant mentality, it just ruins wherever it spreads in Christianity. Prot converts always bring their brain-dead, religious puritanism into the mix. This doesn't just happen to Orthodox; on the Traditional Catholic side you have epic converts from Protestantism like Taylor Marshall encouraging everyone to sperg out
+--- 14900826
+>>14893670 (OP)
+I’d sooner expect Americans to start sacrificing Big Macs to Zeus than for orthodoxy to make up even 10% of the population
+--- 14901476
+>>14899581
+if people talked about minorities the way you talk about whites youd shit your pants in rage, faggot
+--- 14901986
+>>14894622
+Tbh this, I know I can't sell people I know on Catholicism, so I tell them to at least check out Eastern Orthodox since Catholicism has recognized it since the 90s
+--- 14901994
+>>14901476
+the image didn't even mention anything about race yet you're already shitting yours about it you sensitive bitch
+--- 14902026
+>>14895101
+>Give me one thing evangelicalism does that is unique to them that triumphs over orthodoxy, I am waiting
+They seem to be way better at missionary work
+>>14894622
+>Amerimutts are retarded protestants who hate the Catholic church
+I don't think that's actually common, it's just that Francis is causing a lot of disillusionment
+--- 14902068
+>>14896393
+>They're really not these trad people, like at all, but the other side of that coin of indifference is not caring about what other people believe or basically respecting it
+Not exactly.
+--- 14902188
+>>14900815
+What spergy thing has Taylor Marshall done?
+--- 14902359
+Converts should just watch Orthodox Ethos with Father Peter Heers so you can develop the proper mentality and get rid of the ridiculous evangelical mindset
+--- 14902661
+>>14893670 (OP)
+Jews
+--- 14902718
+>>14894720
+Someone post the Orthodox version that uses actual theological arguments instead of land-grabbing EU4 autism
+--- 14902727
+It's hilarious how Orthodoxy makes evangelicucks, tradcaths, Jews and fedoracucks seethe ITT
+--- 14902868
+>>14900815
+> Prot converts always bring their brain-dead, religious puritanism into the mix. 
+I couldn’t agree more and I’m exactly that. I’m actually somewhat sympathetic to Californian refugees now because it’s the same mindset. Even though I know good and well protestantism is awful and I’ve seen how its’ principles destroy a church I still catch myself thinking every once in a while, “Would it really be so bad if Orthodoxy did X ?”. I’m extremely careful about never voicing these thoughts, but I know there are plenty of others who aren’t.
+--- 14903197
+>>14902727
+>Be unpopular contrarian losers
+>jokes on you, we like being unpopular contrarian losers 
+
+You'll lose your convert zeal and find something else to convert too soon enough
+--- 14903217
+>>14903197
+I'm Greek, faggot. It's not Orthodoxy's fault proteniggers made a mockery out of Christianity and indirectly birthed fedora atheism or how Catholics shit the bed with Papal infallibility. Orthodoxy is older than any of your meme denominations, so don't be surprised when believers flock to it.
+--- 14903226
+>>14903217
+>I'm Greek,
+I'm so sorry. It must suck to have such an illustrious history and be rendered so low in the modern age that your only friends are retarded zoomers joining your faith out of sheer contrarianism instead of out of any sense of sincere religious revelation. Don't worry, they'll move on soon enough and you can go back to being just another irrelevant religious minority
+--- 14903230
+>>14903217
+Palamism is a heresy. Barlaam had to convert to Catholicism because of such blasphemous smut.
+--- 14903283
+>>14893687
+>>14893700
+>>14893710
+>>14893796
+Kikes absolutely seething in this thread. Dont worry, we will try to make 110 as painless and swift as possible
+--- 14904003
+>protestant Americans turning Orthodox Christian
+>Latin Americans turning protestant Christian
+
+So who's turning Catholic and where?
+--- 14904016
+>>14904003
+>So who's turning Catholic and where?
+afriKANGZ
+--- 14904133
+>>14904003
+>>14904016
+This, I'll probably go down with the Catholic ship, but that is where I see things trending. I'll keep encouraging American Protestants to go into Eastern Orthodoxy because that at least makes ecumenicalism more viable
+--- 14904315
+>>14904133
+>American Protestants to go into Eastern Orthodoxy
+All they'll do is subvert it from within

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+-----
+--- 14893746
+what are some moments in history that sounds like bullshit but they totally happened
+--- 14893771
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Everything involving Joan of arc
+--- 14893776
+Does the Leo Frank case pretty much disprove the myth that lynchings had anything to do with race? They trusted the black guy even though they already had an excuse to lynch him on sight
+--- 14893781
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Cleopatra's entire life
+--- 14893782
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Taiping Rebellion.
+--- 14893783
+>>14893776
+No it doesn't
+Leo Frank was also an "outsider" and he was too obviously guilty to blame some black guy for it and move on
+--- 14893787
+>>14893746 (OP)
+The entire history of China
+--- 14893791
+>>14893776
+>Does the Leo Frank case pretty much disprove the myth that lynchings had anything to do with race?
+No???? are you stupid or something lel
+--- 14893805
+>>14893783
+>Leo Frank was also an "outsider"
+Jews were one of the first groups to be emancipated in America since they basically copied the French Revolution who gave them equal rights. 
+To them Frank was just another white guy
+--- 14893814
+>>14893746 (OP)
+>Germans + Allies teaming up in a castle
+>Americans supporting a socialist aligned government against Christian peasants
+>that British soldier who stormed battlefields with a bagpipe, longsword, and longbow
+>two Latin American countries fighting an unrelated war at the same time as WWII 
+>the serb who pushed a bottle up his ass too far and collapsed Yugoslavia as well as his colon
+>General Butt Naked
+those are my favorite
+--- 14893816
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Manson was official member of scientology
+--- 14893818
+>>14893783
+>>14893791
+Lynching was extrajudicial killings for a crime. It has literally nothing to do with race and everything to do with settler Wild West life where a police force wasn’t really around. This meant the townsfolk acted as their own police force and would gather up in posses to arrest criminals and deal out justice.
+
+If some guy is known as a horse there, they would just go arrest and hang him. Lynching had become synonymous with specifically hanging black people, but that isn’t what it was. Most victims of lynching were overwhelmingly white simply because the majority of the country was white, and a lot of times blacks participated in the lynching. A real outlier of this were cases like Teal where a boy was killed for a minor offense, even in cases of whites killing blacks, it was almost always because the black person was either suspected of or even found guilty in a court of law of raping and/or murdering someone. 
+
+The largest mass lynching in America was in New Orleans and against Italian immigrants. This was the first case against the mafia in America and the men were all suspected being part of this scary criminal secret society, so both whites AND blacks hanged them in rage.
+--- 14893821
+>>14893818
+nigger I'm not reading any of that shit kek
+you literally are arguing that lynching had nothing to do with race, that's enough for me to know
+--- 14893826
+>>14893821
+trannypol public school educated band dork faggot
+--- 14893828
+The Manhattan Project sounds like a shitty arc in a shonen anime
+--- 14893833
+>>14893800
+Just another proof that coffee makes you a psychopathic maniac, coffee should be outlawed
+--- 14893840
+>>14893833
+another proof they all were jewish spies
+--- 14893852
+Jim Morrisons dad started the Vietnam War
+--- 14893862
+>>14893843
+What is this refrencing? Something during the winter war I assume?
+--- 14893868
+Helena took Radcliffe virginity while filming 8
+--- 14893874
+>>14893862
+Aimo Koivunen
+--- 14893882
+>>14893857
+Anon, have you ever heard of Chaos Theory? The same can be said for literally any major event in human history. You can make the argument that the filming of "Two Girls, One Cup" directly lead to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine.
+--- 14893889
+>>14893814
+Context for these?
+--- 14893893
+>>14893882
+>have you ever heard of Chaos Theory?
+No, but I do know about chaos control...UOHHAAAHHHHHH!!! *stops time*
+--- 14893907
+>>14893776
+>Does the Leo Frank case pretty much disprove the myth that lynchings had anything to do with race?
+No, it would be just anecdotal evidence.
+Rather, the fact that lynching happened all through thr 19th century in america and involved literally every ethnicity including anglos proves that lynching wasn't a racial phenom.
+You can still make an argument that nogs were scapegoated (I mean yeah, 13/50 today, but the lynching proportions are something like 2/75), but the act of lynching was just extrajudicial punishment like it happened and still happens in every country at every point in time and definitely not something made up for them specifically.
+--- 14893908
+>>14893746 (OP)
+>what are some moments in history that sounds like bullshit but they totally happened
+
+
+Uncle Ted was right
+--- 14893927
+>>14893889
+>no idea
+>US support of the mexican socialist regime during the Cristero War
+>Jack Churchill
+>Peru-Ecuador War
+>Martinovic incident
+>some crazy african warlord whose batallion dressed as a woman and sacrificed children. He is now a christian pastor
+--- 14893936
+>>14893805
+He was a new yorker
+--- 14893938
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Second Pacific squadron.
+--- 14893948
+Jesus existed
+--- 14893962
+>>14893948
+yeah but he wasn't god
+--- 14893972
+>>14893962
+>yeah but he wasn't god
+
+source ?
+--- 14893980
+>>14893972
+God told me in a vision.
+--- 14893983
+>>14893800
+Fun fact: the three national leaders involved most directly in WW1 were all first cousins. Edward, Nicholas and Wilhelm were all Queen Victoria’s grandkids. Makes sense when I think of my family, and yet somehow monarchists will defend this
+--- 14893990
+>>14893980
+sure mohammed
+--- 14893991
+>>14893818
+>Most victims of lynching were overwhelmingly white
+Source? Because looking it up casually, 72% of the victims were black.
+--- 14894018
+>>14893746 (OP)
+>Russo-German schizophrenic barges into Mongolia 
+>tries to take the capital occupied by Chinese
+>fails miserably
+>spreads rumours that the end is near 
+>rides into the city alone, beats Chinese soldier for sleeping on duty
+>kidnaps Bogd-khan from prison
+>convinces everyone he is immortal
+>tries to take the city second time, with even less soldiers
+>Chinese flee in horror, despite outnumbering attackers 1 to 10 and having actual weapons
+>marries Chinese princess 
+>leaves to suicide by USSR
+--- 14894460
+>>14893746 (OP)
+The Great Chicago Fire
+
+The War of the Three Kingdoms
+
+The Burning of the Library of Alexandria
+
+The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest
+
+The Salem Witch Trials
+--- 14894467
+>>14893889
+>>14893927
+1st is battle for castle itter
+german soldier rebelled at the end of the war to beat ss
+--- 14894493
+a portuguese soldier once ran out of bulletts in a battle agaisnt the ottomans and removed and shot his own tooth
+
+another did a night raid on a ottoman camp during nighttime and kidnapped a soldier, realized much later that he had left his borrowed helmet at enemy camp, returned during daytime, in full view of the enemy, picked up the helmet and then ran for dear life, at which point the ottomans realising he wasnt surrendering, started chasing for him to climb the city walls while his mates pissed themselves laughing
+--- 14894866
+>>14893746 (OP)
+The holocaust
+--- 14894875
+>>14894866
+>had to look up this
+what the fuck germanbros, why they don't teach this at school
+they should make movies or something
+--- 14894892
+>>14893746 (OP)
+--- 14894913
+>>14894892
+This isn't even that weird. Happens with popular musicians all the time
+--- 14894927
+>>14893805
+This. I mean we're talking about a time when half of whites thought they were descendants of Israel and the other half was LARPing as them.
+--- 14894990
+>>14893783
+If Leo were a Christian with no other variable of that case changed, the outcome would have remained the same despite what Jewish NGO's will tell you. Why are people still defending this guy lel
+--- 14895033
+>>14893800
+WHAT THE FUCK WAS FREUD SPLIPPING INTO THE COFFEE
+--- 14895051
+>>14893746 (OP)
+CIA pretending to be god to scare filipino peasants.
+--- 14895059
+>that italian aristocrat and former failed assassin of Napoleon III who fought at the battle of little big horn
+--- 14895064
+>>14893983
+>Edward
+first of all it was George V at the time
+second of all the UK/George V was way, way less important to the start of WW1 than Franz Josef I
+--- 14895074
+>>14894018
+>severely mentally ill and incompetent at everything
+>did absolutely nothing to fight the commies
+>worshipped by reddit history enthusiast retards because he was in a video game mod
+--- 14895099
+>>14893746 (OP)
+I have to buy myself a kufi.
+--- 14895123
+>>14893776
+
+No. The Klan just hated Jews more.
+--- 14895130
+>>14895123
+>"white southerners hated jews more than blacks"
+Yeah, nice try Chaim
+--- 14895133
+>>14895099
+Buy a pakol instead, they're the perfect hybrid of a beret and a kufi. As long as you aren't the whitest person in the universe you can pull it off with a sweater
+--- 14895167
+>>14894990
+
+The circumstantial and forensic evidence overwhelmingly point to Jim Conley. It's amazing he got away with pinning the murder on Frank. So much so that he didn't even plan it initially. He tried to blame it on another black guy in the murder notes he left behind, a night watchman named Newt Lee, who was so obviously not the murderer that he was cleared almost instantly.
+--- 14895203
+>>14895123
+Basically everybody was doing better than the "freedmen". Jews, Catholics, American Indians, French quadroons, Caribbeans/Hispanics/Latinos, even a genuine African from Africa would have less to fear from the Klan than a genuine American negro.
+--- 14895211
+>>14893746 (OP)
+>woman
+Wasn't she like 8 or 9 or something
+--- 14895625
+>>14895211
+13
+--- 14895673
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Pvt Kikujiro Shimura going to the toilet, getting lost and starting WW2 as a consequence.
+--- 14895682
+>>14893852
+>Jim Morrisons dad started the Vietnam War
+>Morrison was commander of United States naval forces during the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of August 1964, which sparked an escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War. He was the father of Jim Morrison, the lead singer of the rock band The Doors, who died on July 3, 1971. Rome, Georgia, U.S.
+--- 14895865
+>>14893746 (OP)
+--- 14895889
+George Lincoln Rockwell’s Dad being a vaudeville comedian and friends with many popular comics of the day, including Groucho Marx, Jack Benny, George Burns, and Fred Allen. (All of whom attended Rockwell’s Christening.)
+--- 14896879
+I'm in NYC right now and I'm gonna try to get standing room tickets for this show in like 12 hours. I wonder how they're gonna address the fact that the murderer was black.
+--- 14896885
+>>14895123
+that's pretty based
+--- 14896902
+>>14895203
+Why did I read "genuine african" normally but "genuine american negro" as "gen-yoo-aign"
+--- 14896972
+>>14893746 (OP)
+
+in yalta during a discussion stalin and fdr talked about the jewish question asking each other if they were zionists both answered yes but the stalin added something like he tried something in urss with jews but ,according to his words, said they were too deeply an urban merchant people.
+also those writings(or notes taken) were written by alger hiss who later was judged for being a soviet spy.
+--- 14896978
+>>14893776
+I imagine most lynchings occur not because of innocent people, but rather some sort of reaction. Anger from the public
+--- 14897443
+>>14893776
+Lunching never had anything to do with race that is a Jewish hollyjew fiction. Lynching was a form of mob justice, hence why they were called lynch "mobs." The death sentence was "hanging by next until dead" lynch mobs did the same thing the state did, they just did it themselves. There were never KKK clans just roaming the countryside looking for niggers to lynch that us pure Jewish fiction
+--- 14897726
+>>14893816
+he looks hot on this pic
+--- 14897731
+>>14895051
+also vampires
+--- 14897732
+>>14893781
+Yeah it reads like copy of Dido from Aeneid.
+--- 14897735
+>>14893776
+That case is so weird for me
+A guy was lynched for killing a woman because of the compelling evidence and somehow it is connected to Jews
+--- 14897745
+>>14897726
+>he looks hot on this pic
+--- 14897755
+>>14893868
+Lucky Daniel
+--- 14897763
+>>14894018
+>>rides into the city alone, beats Chinese soldier for sleeping on duty
+>>kidnaps Bogd-khan from prison
+>>convinces everyone he is immortal
+the masculine urge to do a physical feat that seems impossible and convince everyone that you are immortal
+ugh
+--- 14897770
+>>14893746 (OP)
+--- 14898493
+>>14896972
+>the stalin added something like he tried something in urss with jews but ,according to his words, said they were too deeply an urban merchant people.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
+There was an idea a the time that Jewish people were bad in their current form back that they could be reformed through redemption of the soil, which is to say they would become normal if they acted normal. Specifically that [hrasing came from Moses Hess who interacted with Marx and Engels early on before splitting with them on the issue of class struggle being the only relevant factor of analysis as he believed national or race struggle was nearly as important, and so he created labour zionism which is actually the first kind of zionism and predates the writings of Theodore Herzl who wrote without knowledge that someone had already written on the same topic,
+--- 14898544
+>>14893746 (OP)
+After being rejected by his oneitis, Josiah Harlan left Pennsylvania and went to Afghanistan with the intent of becoming a king. Beginning as a mercenary captain working for various warlords, he built up his reputation as a great commander.18 years later, he found himself working for the king of Afghanistan and after proving himself in battle, he was awarded the title Prince of Ghōr and officially afghan royalty.
+--- 14898720
+>>14898544
+Back in the good ol days where men can legitimately just "go on an adventure"
+--- 14898732
+>>14898720
+Nothing stops you from going to Afghanistan
+--- 14898789
+>>14898544
+Berserk live action adaptation when?
+--- 14898824
+>>14893983
+King George and Nicholas wanted to avoid the war but they had no choice because they were bound by the treaty. WW1 was not a family dispute.
+--- 14899346
+>>14893868
+jammy bastard
+--- 14899427
+>>14893936
+This, Jews in the south back then weren’t seen as different from any other Christian sect. Being perceived as a carpetbagger was a stronger case for lynching someone than being a Jew. The original KKK allowed Jews in and didn’t become antisemitic until it expanded to the north, but lefties still need to pin everything on ‘muh ebul southern hicks’ because they don’t want to accept that history isn’t as cut and dry as they think it is.
+--- 14899693
+Creepy jew boss hits on underage girl outside his office, everyone can see it. She turns out raped and dead. Must be a black guy, definitely not the weird incel jew who keeps trying to fuck his underage employees. Obviously the black guys did it since they kept on raping and killing girls afterwards. Oh? They didnt. I like the fact he thought his rich jew friends would save him.
+--- 14899697
+>>14895865
+the lads
+--- 14900225
+>>14893814
+>us supporting socialists against Christian peasants
+Greek Civil war?
+--- 14900232
+>>14900225
+Might be WW2 era Yugoslavia, although it was primarily the British supporting the Communists.
+--- 14900280
+>>14895167
+Yeah except that Jim Conley confessed under 'extreme sweating' that Frank paid him to move the body and forge the notes
+--- 14900297
+>>14897735
+Frank was Jewish and his legal defense was financed by the Jewish business community, who kept up the funding after his conviction and eventually bribed the governor to commute his execution to a life sentence. After he was lynched following this, those same Jews founded and funded the ADL
+--- 14900304
+>>14898544
+IRL The Man Who Would Be King?
+--- 14900320
+>>14899693
+They did until the community kidnapped him from his jail cell and hanged him; his co-religionists bribed the governor to commute his death sentence to life in prison
+--- 14900343
+>>14893776
+No. The case was an outlier. The KKK was highly bigoted against blacks, but Leo Frank was so guilty even they believed the blacks dindu nuffin.
+--- 14901423
+>>14893868
+Source please
+--- 14901430
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Clodius and Milo
+--- 14901431
+>>14894981
+Is that fucking hirohito
+--- 14901443
+>>14895865
+why are they chilling so hard
+--- 14901489
+>>14893746 (OP)
+The Miracle of the House of Brandenburg
+--- 14901529
+>>14901431
+Yes
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ATG4IsY1mE [Embed]
+--- 14901572
+>>14900304
+The man who would be minor nobility.
+--- 14901643
+>>14893821
+Lynching and race are circles on a venn diagram that intersect but not completely.
+The South had racial strife, yes. It also knew that the two groups had to live together, because both groups knew that Northerners despised both groups.
+Nigger rapes a white woman, gets lynched. Drunken useless whiteboy goes into the black part of town and rapes a black woman, her brothers kill him, maybe you don't call that a lynching, but no decent white man is going to avenge this asshole.
+Problems happen on the edges, of course, and they get the press. Like this Leo Frank asshole, who's not exactly huwite.
+--- 14901691
+>>14893746 (OP)
+>The life and time of Basil I the Macedonian
+>The duel between Peter III of Aragon and Charles I of Anjou/Sicily with Edward I of England acting as referee never ever
+--- 14901697
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Polish troops cannibalism in Moscow Kremlin.
+--- 14901704
+>>14901529
+God of a cult that reaped havoc and killed millions...
+--- 14901709
+>>14901529
+Japanese anime of 1940s full of anti American propaganda were a kino. Based on Mickey Mouse cartoons actually.
+--- 14901777
+>>14901704
+and Hirohito
+--- 14901974
+>>14895123
+*kneels out of respect*
+--- 14902244
+>>14901423
+No source because it never happened, 95% of anons on this website just gossip like faggots at the theater about something they saw posted once somewhere without evidence.
+--- 14902246
+>>14894490
+It really does read like some bullshit propoganda made up by the winning regime for its founder 500 years ago.
+--- 14902286
+>>14895051
+>>14897731
+Explain.
+--- 14902410
+>>14902246
+What is it referring to? Napoleon lived 200 years ago.
+--- 14902582
+>>14900225
+Pretty sure it's referring to the Cristero War
+--- 14902648
+straight out of Monty Python sketch
+--- 14902676
+>>14902286
+It might've been some military psyop operation, I don't know if it was the CIA specifically but the US did something similar in South Vietnam - they'd play distorted recordings of people speaking Vietnamese claiming to be the ghosts of North Vietnamese soldiers that weren't buried properly to spook North Vietnamese soldiers at night
+--- 14902683
+>>14893746 (OP)
+John Money
+--- 14902826
+>>14898544
+That guy is the great grandfather of Scott Reiniger who starred in Dawn of the dead
+--- 14903231
+>>14895167
+>The circumstantial and forensic evidence overwhelmingly point to Jim Conley.
+It doesn't, this academic fraud created on the behalf of the ADL
+--- 14903371
+>>14893746 (OP)
+Where do we even start?
+
+The Phoebus cartel 
+Unabomber was experimented on by the CIA
+Keynes advocated for government to raise taxes and saw government spending only as an emergency action 
+Cybersyn was so effective even the World Bank quietly admitted it outperformed all previously studied models
+Pilot wave theory was discredited by a mathematical error that was undetected for decades, instead we ended up with Quantum field theory
+The Turing test idea was basically a prelude to a gay man's suicide, arguably a suicide note given the context
+Statins drugs was key development was from a 1913 study finding that force feeding herbivores rabbits only high cholesterol gives them heart attacks
+Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors drugs was a profit driven spinoff from allergy medication studies which found people on allergy medication had better mood than those without allergy medication
+The X-33 was over 95% complete and would have changed spaceflight as we know it, but the director of NASA lobbied it to get canceled under grounds the new fuel tanks weren't ready. Older fuel tanks versions could have been used easily with some payload reduction
+Japan had a meeting planned to discuss surrender days before the nuke hit, the sheer volume of regular bombs made the nuke drop pointless and a total waste of money
+The engineer of the navy's nuclear reactor warned strongly against adapting his pressurized water reactor designs to land based power plants as lack of cooling water was a critical flaw, safer molten salt tech was already available but we use pressurized water reactor
+Pentagon Wars is label a HBO comedy movie, but if you talk to people involve off the record they'll say it's far more a factual documentary
+The modern idea of gold having value was a Roman political scheme to pay off the military with worthless rocks to prevent a solider uprising
+
+My life
+--- 14903404
+>>14894981
+>casually makes multiple discoveries in the field of marine biology
+--- 14903415
+>>14893821
+>Sees evidence against his viewpoint
+>Refuses to read it
+Classic lefty
+--- 14903416
+>>14896972
+Stalin was no fan of the private bank, but did need their help during WW2. Like most cases in history, the only regimes capable of fighting back against the bank were totalitarian ones. The bank obviously wanted Trotsky in power.
+--- 14903487
+>>14893746 (OP)
+A child (Ismail I) who was heir to a religious cult (the Safavid sufi order) after his father and brother were killed emerged out of Gilan in Iran, became the leader of the safavids, avenged his father and brother and conquered the region and reformed the state of Iran 900 years after the fall of the Sassanids
+--- 14903563
+>>14903371
+>My life
+I demand multiple sources liar.
+--- 14903716
+>>14902410
+When Napoleon escaped Elba and returned to France the re-instated Bourbons panicked and sent most of the army to destroy Nappy and his 700 guys he landed with. He met the army on the road, dismounted, and walked up to them unarmed, the entire army proceeded to throw down their weapons and re-proclaim his as true Emperor of France.
+
+He rode all the way to Paris, the whole while every other regiment in the Royal Army proclaimed for him, with the ones near him flocking to join his column until Louis XVIII had no fighting men left and was forced to leave Paris and the country under cover of night before Nappy was even in Paris.
+
+I'm just saying you'd expect some North Korean to write something like that about Kim Il-Sung as a propoganda piece.
+--- 14903748
+>>14903371
+>The modern idea of gold having value
+Wasn`t that Croesus?
+--- 14903754
+>>14900304
+He was the inspiration for the man who would be king.
+--- 14903759
+>>14903404
+Jotaro's career was inspired by Hirohito of all people?
+--- 14903763
+>>14903563
+The sheer number of times when I've tried to talk to people only to be called a liar.
+ 
+If you look around back around 2014 you might find my old posting on 4chan where I was foolishly and naively trying to have a conversation and make friends mostly on /g/ or /b/. Yet every single time I talked about my life I was accused of creepypasta and shut down. Nobody believes my life, even in IRL and even when I have hard proof. It's such a complex mess I don't know where to being. Thankfully my life has gotten better, even if nobody believes me. 
+More generally I argue that I am a human and I have a life. But knowing how things go I'll just get called a A.I. or something. 
+
+As for proof I exist, well I want to avoid doxing myself again and even the US government isn't clear on if I exist or not. Turns out if your parents give you a long first, middle and last name you can get different truncation errors so none of your government identification matches. The result is hellish as you have to argue that you exist at all the time, which makes of all kinds of strange unbelievable life events fueled all the more by technically having a second non-US birth certificate. Also I strongly recommend based on personal experience against becoming good friends with a nuclear engineer in college who years later goes through the highest level nuclear weapons background check, you'll make every alphabet list without even knowing it. Not that I likely wasn't on them for something else years earlier given all the other stuff in my life.
+--- 14903852
+>>14894866
+That only meets the first criterion
+--- 14903878
+>>14903748
+Not familiar with Croesus, he may have done something earlier
+
+The issue was that Roman empire started out with small states that got raided often, so they joined together and made a super powered military to stop all the attacks. This worked but left them with questions on what to do with such a large standing army. So they started conquering and growing, good expansion gains for years. 
+
+At some point the army was just too powerful and they were having trouble paying them, kind of a recurring problem for them really given how big their military was. There was a real fear the army would just resort to banditry or possibly a full on coup. So they made new tax code that people had to pay in gold then gave the soldiers the gold. This was economic genius as it outsource the allocation to the markets. Soldiers and citizens then started negotiating how to solve the problem. Ever party was very motivated to solve this. The soldiers didn't really care for the gold so they would just trade it for what they wanted. The citizens would trade for the gold as they needed it to avoid the high cost of failing to pay taxes. Failure to pay enough taxes with gold meant the government would send the military to get them, so they would likely die and the solider could just take everything that citizen had as payment which also would act as soldiers duties and payment to avoid unlawful banditry, after all a tax collection wasn't counted as it was government sanctioned. They even got clever and had the gold payments done in large sums at key sites, helping shape where and in what density the soldiers gathered. This would also shape where the economic booms would happen as trading would jump wherever a payment site was declared. After all nobody liked lugging gold around to far, but it could be moved if the government wanted. 
+To help keep this going they really pushed the idea of how valuable gold was. 
+
+Very similar trick was done by Abraham Lincoln with Greenbacks
+--- 14903880
+>>14903763
+>Also I strongly recommend based on personal experience against becoming good friends with a nuclear engineer in college who years later goes through the highest level nuclear weapons background check, you'll make every alphabet list without even knowing it. Not that I likely wasn't on them for something else years earlier given all the other stuff in my life.
+I was just kidding anon, but, oddly, I have a similar experience. An engineer friend with multiple clearances working for a defense contractor. But I have my own clearances, so I might be on lots of lists but my freedom hasn't been taken away yet. I'm sure they'd be thrilled I post on a Nicaraguan knitting forum. Keeping studying history my friend.
+--- 14904013
+>>14898544
+>>14898720
+There's a surprising amount of similar stories from the 19th century
+>Charles Vyner Brooke, the "White Rajah" of Sarawak
+>Ambrosio Jose Gonzales, Cuban nationalist turned Confederate officer
+>Charles-Marie David de Mayrena, short-lived King of Sedang
+>William Walker, brief President of Nicaragua and Baja California
+--- 14904081
+>>14903880
+Thanks
+That freedom is one of the things I am thankful for. Despite how crazy things have gotten I've only be detained a day or two while they sort things out and eventually figure out I did nothing wrong each and every time. Although I think my pure law abiding honesty is why I get stopped so much. 
+
+One time while being questioned by homeland security I started lecturing them about the errors they had relating to explosive materials, all while in an airport. I didn't really think about how that might be seen as suspicious at the time. Downside was I missed my flight, the upside was I later noticed they updated their documentation with the corrections I pointed out. I like to think that those correction on chemistry was my contribution to national security. But I honestly was more annoyed at whoever wrote the earlier version, I mean they mixed up some key parts and as a chemist those kind of errors annoyed me. The second part of how to detect home made flash bangs materials is almost word for word what I told them, nice to know they listened. Just one of many tiny historical contributions in my life.
+--- 14904220
+There’s like a 99% chance Frank did kill the girl, but Jews do everything they can say to say that’s not true using the weight of media and nearly no evidence. It’s an extremely similar tactic they use when they whine about their khazar heritage
+--- 14904816
+>>14896879
+you should print out photos of Mary Phagan and leave them around the theatre

his/14896175.txt

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+-----
+--- 14896175
+How did Spain manage to conquer the entire Aztec empire with only a few hundred men.
+--- 14896177
+>>14896175 (OP)
+They did it with tens of thousands of Indian allies.
+--- 14896193
+>>14896177
+including one of the main three cities of the aztec empire and being allied to nearly everybody surrounding the lake
+--- 14896279
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Better technology with a side of european diseases
+--- 14897892
+Clever people.
+--- 14897966
+Proto-mexcrements can't fight
+--- 14897969
+good strategy + Cortes ego
+--- 14897972
+>>14896175 (OP)
+250.00 tlaxcallan warriors. M*xicas seethe to this day.
+--- 14898203
+>>14896175 (OP)
+>How did Spain manage to conquer the entire Aztec empire with only a few hundred men.
+Theres books written about the process but basically the same thing can be said about many wars.
+Lenin conquered the russian empire with a dozen of his buddies
+--- 14898211
+>>14897972
+More interesting to me is why after the aztec defeat the other indios didnt just took over the city. Why did they just allow the spaniards to boss over them?
+Might have been a reign of terror type of order, where indios enforced the spaniards rule.
+--- 14898221
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Europoids were like walking biological weapons with all the new foreign diseases they brought from the old world.
+--- 14898307
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Aztec may have been rich but it was a small territory like Portugal small
+--- 14898374
+Spaniards were basically 2000 years ahead of Aztecs in military development.
+
+It might sound un-impressive but their swords vs clubs covered with obsidian blades is a huge difference.
+
+They also had a few guns, better armor, horses, military tactics.
+
+All things considered every spaniard was worth at least 6 native soldiers. 150 spaniards could easily slaughter 1000 natives.
+--- 14898597
+>>14896175 (OP)
+They merely mimicked what their Moorish rapefathers did in Iberia.
+--- 14898629
+>>14898211
+It didn't matter. More Spaniards would have shown if Cortes failed. Once they got a base in Hispaniola, It was over for the natives
+--- 14898670
+>>14896177
+>>14896193
+That's even more based. Sun Tzu-tier shit; fighting wars with troops that aren't yours.
+--- 14898685
+>>14896193
+Why do zoomers all believe in the whole "the spanish got allies because the aztecs were meanies" narrative when the second most important native ally of the spaniards were themselves Aztecs who were the second most powerful member of the Aztec Triple Alliance and who switched sides literally just because they were pissed at Montezuma interfering in their succession crisis a few years earlier?
+--- 14898738
+>>14898374
+>horses, military tactics.
+these two are basically what made them win
+--- 14898742
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Racial superiority.
+--- 14898749
+>>14898742
+ANE is superior to European farmers, so no.
+--- 14899047
+>>14898749
+Cope, iberian bull is superior to any race/animal in the planet. Turbochads like our president 500 years ago would have breed thousands if not tens of thousands of virgin indians in question of months.
+--- 14899124
+>>14896177
+>>14896193
+
+False.
+
+Spaniards had to defeat the Txacalans 3 TIMES in very cruenty battles before Txacalans decide to unite with the Spaniards to defeat the Aztecs. In these 3 battlets thousands of txalancans were killed by the 300 Spaniards and that is why they decided to join because they thought the Spaniards were invincible.
+
+If the Txacalans were so decisive, how they did never try to defeat the aztecs by themselves after the centuries they had been oppresed by them?? If they were so decissive why they were never able to defeat the aztecs for centuries??
+
+Spaniards went to the code of the Aztec Empire. The txacalans did almost nothing at first. After they saw the Spaniards kidnapping Moctezuma and making him prisoner, they went to seek revenge against the aztecs for the centuries of oppression. 
+
+Txacalanas, despite their numbers, were the 1% of the impact in the defeat. 99% of the victory has to be credited to the 300-400 Spaniards.
+
+And Spaniards played in a away house. In a tropical weather where powder was almost unusable because of the humid tropical weather.
+--- 14899128
+>>14899124
+*went to the core.
+--- 14899138
+>>14898629
+>would have
+What did actually happen?
+--- 14899190
+And a few Spaniards also defeated the Incas and other empires without help, showing that they did it by their own bravery and smartness.
+
+The very same people that later during the 1500s-1600s ruled the fields of Europe as the unbeated Tercios making many European powers to surrend to them in many battles. Totally undefeated for 150 years and a major power for 300 years across Europe.
+
+The same people that did whatever they wanted in the Mediterraneo as the Almogavares. Our current king is King ot Athenas because the Almogavares defeated all the tribes there.
+--- 14899321
+>>14899190
+Ok so explain what actually happened after the aztecs were defeated
+--- 14899391
+>>14899124
+>If the Txacalans were so decisive, how they did never try to defeat the aztecs by themselves after the centuries they had been oppresed by them?? If they were so decissive why they were never able to defeat the aztecs for centuries??
+>the aztecs for the centuries of oppression. 
+The Aztecs had been an empire for less than a century by the time the spanish arrived and were fighting the Tlaxcaltecs for less than half of that time, and the Tlaxcaltecs were "losing" to the point of being "oppressed" for far less time than even that. They did in fact soundly defeat the Aztecs in battle several times before (the poor state of Tlaxcala when the spanish arrived was more because of Aztec trade embargos in a deliberate attempt to starve them out rather than military defeats) and they didn't destroy them simply because they were fighting a defensive war in their own turf rather than helping out a foreign army in getting rid of them once and for all.
+--- 14899437
+>>14899190
+>And a few Spaniards also defeated the Incas and other empires without help
+The Inca Empire wasn't conquered without help either, after Atahualpa got kidnapped, the spaniards swiftly allied with rebellious andean ethnic groups and northern Inca nobles who had previously sided with Atahualpa's rival during the preceding civil war, groups like the Chachapoya and Chancas, the latter even getting their own Coat of Arms for their role during the conquest.
+And which other empires do you have in mind exactly? The spaniards had Tlaxcaltecs and other Nahua allies with them in just about every other war against other mesoamerican states and empires, they had andean allies during their wars against the Mapuches in South America as well. The modern state of Guatemala and an Salvadorean ethnic group called the Pipil both have Nahua names given to them by Tlaxcaltecs allies of the conquistadors who got there.
+--- 14899494
+>>14899391
+For less than a century? Prove it.
+
+Anyways the actual names of the tribes does not matter. 300 years earlier X tribe was oppressing Y tribe. The same people basically with the same ethnicity or cultural background, just different names. People that diverged 400-500 years earlier and funded different groups. So, the “aztecs” could have been oppressing the same groups with different names for 400 years.
+
+>>14899437
+“After Atahualpa got kidnapped. For that to happen, if it was so easy, nobody did it before. You had to have bravery and smartness. It seems the other tribes lacked it. 
+
+Conclussion, the other tribes almost had no significance in the result. 98% of the merit was Spaniards.
+
+Why the oppressed tribes did not have success for centuries? If it was just kidnapping the chief…then why they did not do it? 
+
+Again, it was a massive merit for those few hundred Spaniards going to a totally different world, absolutely unknown, and going to the core of centuries-old empires and submitting them in a few months.
+
+It is like aliens arriving on Earth and submitting half the world in a few days. Some retards would align with the aliens but this does not mean that these retards were decisive.
+--- 14899601
+>>14899494
+>For less than a century? Prove it.
+The Aztec Triple Alliance was founded in 1428, before that the Mexicas of Tenochtitlan existed as a minor city-state in the middle of Lake Texcoco, they were vassals of the larger Tepanec Empire, which they eventually toppled with the help of several other indigenous states, including the Tlaxcaltecs who would later become their enemies. The two other city-states of the alliance were likewise Tepanec vassals. It's simply a well-estabilished historical fact. The Flower Wars against Tlaxcala began in the 1450s, and by the 1510s they were still firmly independent despite Aztec attempts at subduing them.
+>Anyways the actual names of the tribes does not matter.
+Of course it does, and Tlaxcala wasn't a "tribe", it was a well-organized state whose history was recorded after the conquest, that specific period of Central Mexican history isn't some shadowy web of guesswork about the status of tribals, we have plenty of concrete information on it, written by both spaniards who met and interacted with those people and their descendants.
+>After Atahualpa got kidnapped. For that to happen, if it was so easy, nobody did it before. You had to have bravery and smartness. It seems the other tribes lacked it. 
+The Inca were very efficient in stamping out dissent, they went as far as banning entire ethnic groups from owning weapons and doing soviet-style ethnic group relocation. And it was a very specific set of circumstances that led to Atahualpa getting captured, doesn't really apply to the locals.
+>Why the oppressed tribes did not have success for centuries? If it was just kidnapping the chief…then why they did not do it? 
+>Again, it was a massive merit for those few hundred Spaniards going to a totally different world, absolutely unknown, and going to the core of centuries-old empires and submitting them in a few months.
+Both of the major empires conquered by the spaniards were less than a century old though.
+--- 14899840
+>>14899601
+Again, they are the same people in the same area with different names. 
+
+Just like in Spain there was the celts, the iberians, the basques. Then Hispania Romana, then the Visigoths and Suevi, then the moors in the half south, then Castilla, Leon, Aragon, Navarra.
+
+The same people with different names and different empires. I am sure the aztecs (or their previous names) were oppresing other tribes. The issue here is that the oppresed never tried to defeat the aztecs or did not have success until the Spaniards arrived there and id it in a few weeks. So, this is the decisive factor.
+--- 14899902
+>>14899840
+Except that as i said, we know exactly what the people who would later become the Aztecs were doing before the empire the spanish conquered was a thing, that is being a mid-tier city-state that was subordinate to another, they were not fighting the Tlaxcaltecs, whose history and status at the time is also fairly well known.
+--- 14901037
+fddfg
+--- 14901054
+>>14899124
+What are you doing trying to argue about the conquest of Tenochtitlan when you don't even know how to spell Tlaxcala? stupid mongoloid faggot retard
+--- 14901395
+>>14898374
+Why was the entire America continent so inferior technologically? Is it just that their cultures were so oppressive that it was impossible for people to think in the ways necessary?
+--- 14901437
+Firstly, the OP pic is both extremely inaccurate and low image quality. Here's a better quality image: https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Emmanuel-Leutze-Painting-of-the-Battle-of-Tenochtitlan-MH-May-2022.jpeg though the accuracy is still dogshit: The metal armor/helmets are from decades later, most only had gambeson and the Aztec there are depicted like NA native americans instead of, you know, actual Aztec forces with armor and the right ornaments. The architecture is also a mix of different Maya architectural styles, and without any paint, rather then Aztec
+
+Pic related is more accurate but still has incorrect Spanish armor
+
+To actually address the question, the obvious answer is they didn't, because:
+
+A: The entire Aztec Empire was not conquered across the events you're describing, a handful of cities in the Valley of Mexico were, including Tenochtitlan. After Tenochtitlan's fall, many Aztec subject states ceded to Spanish authority, but many also didn't
+
+B: There was more then a few hundred men involved. Even if you're exclusively counting Europeans, there were a few thousand Conquistadors involved across the entirety of the Cortes Expedition: Cortes initially had hundreds of men with him (maybe approaching 1000), but also hundreds of auxiliaries ranging from slaves to cooks and attendants, and over the course of the expedition would get additional hundreds of Conquistadors and auxiliaries, most notably from Panfilo de Narvaez's forces. He never had more then 1000-1500 with him at most at any one time, but IIRC over the whole expedition there would have been maybe 3000~ conquistadors and more then that in auxiliaries
+
+And of course, the elephant in the room is that there were also over 100,000, quite possibly over 200,000 soldiers and auxiliaries from local Mesoamerican states working with Cortes JUST over the course of the final invasion of the Valley of Mexico/the Siege of Tenochtitlan, and additional thousands in points before then.
+
+1/?
+--- 14901448
+>>14896175 (OP)
+>guns
+>germs
+>and steel
+--- 14901509
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Their military doctrine / technology / tactics were far beyond what the Aztecs had ever faced
+The empire and surrounding regions were weakened by the diseases the Spaniards brought with them
+They managed to defeat and/or co-opt tribes who weren't exactly fond of the Aztec culture dominance (see Flower Wars)
+--- 14901794
+>>14897966
+You will never have a stable border
+--- 14901811
+>>14896175 (OP)
+>only a few hundred men
+This is like the 10th time this myth has been regurgitated. 
+Even a wikipedia article would inform you that the Spanish became allies with thousands of natives.
+--- 14902363
+aasdad
+--- 14902652
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Superior weaponry I guess
+--- 14902834
+>>14899124
+they were decisive as Spanish assets, not as conquering forces since that were the Spanish themselves
+--- 14903071
+>>14896175 (OP)
+Because the Holy Ghost was with them
+--- 14903075
+>>14901811
+So the 100 spaniards used divide and conquer strategies to come out on top, that still means spain only utilised a 100 men for the conquest, unless youre telling me spain paid these natives as mercenaries?
+--- 14903087
+>>14903075
+No because Cortez actually had like a 1000 spanish guys with him by the end of the whole ordeal
+--- 14903199
+>>14899124
+>In a tropical weather where powder was almost unusable because of the humid tropical weather.
+Way to out yourself, retard. Especially after those long wall of text.
+--- 14903326
+>>14903087
+wow totally different, now that's not impressive at all
+
+No.
+--- 14904598
+AASADS

his/14896268.txt

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+-----
+--- 14896268
+In this thread we prove Jesus existed, and that the Gospels are historical accounts of his life, and that Christianity is all real, and we shut Atheists up once and for all. Go.
+--- 14896277
+Big Dick Richie broke this threads hymen
+--- 14896291
+>>14896277
+Nah, he says Jesus was an archangel that got crucified in outer space by Satan and his sky demons, then was later historicized to be on earth. There's no evidence of that.
+--- 14896404
+>>14896268 (OP)
+You can't, also thanks for demonstrating your lack of faith.
+--- 14896642
+>>14896404
+Why is faith more important than proof? Doesn't a Muslim or Mormon or Hindu's faith equally justify their religion? Don't try to "prove" them wrong with facts, it's not about proof, it's just about faith, after all.
+--- 14896871
+>>14896268 (OP)
+In order to prove that Jesus is the truth, you have to disprove the false prophets first, such as Paul the deceiver.
+>http://www.voiceofjesus.org/paulvsjesus.html
+
+Paul says:
+Rom.13
+[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.
+
+Jesus says:
+Luke.21
+ [8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
+saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.
+--- 14896876
+>>14896871
+>t. Muhammad
+--- 14896882
+>>14896876
+Islam is a false religion, as traditional Christianity is, and Muhammad is the second greatest false prophet, next to Paul.
+--- 14896883
+Jesus didn't exist and finally scholars are asking why we need to assume a story abut a magic jew must have had a real jew behind it, despite this hypothetical jew leaving no traces of his existence anywhere. 
+
+People used to think Moses excited. Then people started asking why. Then everyone else was like, yeah good question.
+--- 14896893
+>>14896883
+you could say that jesus existed by never had any miraculous powers or that he never existed and it wouldn't make a difference. we can't go back to the past to see if he existed and did miracles or if he didn't exist, so what's the point in arguing. it's unfalsifiable
+--- 14896914
+>>14896876
+Muhammad didn't exist either. Gee it's almost like religious cults write checks they can't cash.
+--- 14896924
+>>14896914
+You don't exist
+--- 14896937
+>>14896268 (OP)
+If Christianity isn't true, than you are a JEW. A HEBREW JEW! You don't want to be a filthy hook nosed cut cock, do you? Ergo, Christianity is true.
+--- 14896979
+>>14896268 (OP)
+Jesus likes rocks. G-D too.
+--- 14897012
+>>14896979
+Upon that rock Jesus built His church; Jehovah's Wiccans (JW).
+Below that rock G-D stored His tabernacle; Alamo's mishkan.
+
+JW
+--- 14897050
+>Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner? This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
+--- 14897053
+>>14896268 (OP)
+God is proven by the impossibility of the contrary. It's reasonable to deduce a sentient God would want his sentient creations to know his will. That means one of the big religions is correct. Christianity is the only one that stands up to scrutiny. Thus Christianity is provably true.
+--- 14897101
+>>14897012
+yo Bards, Ovates and Druids, when are Charlie's III Angels moving the Tabernacle of G-D to the Alamo, yo.
+https://quran.com/2/248?translations=20,83,84,44,17,85,18,95,49,77,39,23,101,19,22,28,25,52,31,27,33
+--- 14897107
+>>14896268 (OP)
+Misión San Antonio de Valero, the House of G-D
+--- 14897200
+>>14896277
+Richard Carrier denies Alexander the Great existed. His opinions can be safely disregarded.
+--- 14897205
+>>14896871
+Fuck off gnostic
+
+Galatians 2:2
+>I went because God showed me that I should go. I met with those men who were the leaders of the believers. When we were alone, I told them the Good News that I preach to the non-Jewish people. I did not want my past work and the work I am now doing to be wasted. 
+
+Acts 9:27
+> But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
+--- 14897491
+Which period of Christianity do guys prefer, before 1000AD or after?
+--- 14897527
+>>14897200
+That's a lie but cuckstains literally believe a virgin gave birth to a magic jew so what should we do with their opinions?
+--- 14897529
+>>14896268 (OP)
+>In this thread we prove Jesus existed
+
+done
+
+/thread
+--- 14897551
+>>14897529
+Haha. Leaving aside that the shroud is a proven fraud how do you know it's the magic Jew imprinted on it since nobody knows what the magic Jew looked like. There are no physical descriptions of magic Jew and nobody who allegedly met the magic Jew wrote anything down about him.
+--- 14897558
+>>14897551
+>shroud is a proven fraud
+
+ "You see this one jewish study done on external cover of shroud againts all these others more more precisely studies that its fake -"
+
+this is your brain on athegayism
+--- 14897565
+>>14897551
+>Jew imprinted on it since nobody knows what the magic Jew looked like. There are no physical descriptions of magic Jew and nobody who allegedly met the magic Jew wrote anything down about him.
+
+are you okay ? stop taking drugs
+--- 14897634
+>>14897558
+Try putting paint on your face, wrapping a cloth around it then opening the cloth. The imprint is going to be stretched and distorted you dumb fuck. 
+
+You believe a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew. You lack the intelligence to tell the difference between objective facts and your retarded delusions.
+--- 14897644
+>>14896268 (OP)
+God does not want Christianity proven. God wants you to rely on faith alone. God seems to have gone to great lengths to insure this, I am of the opinion that the only reason there was a natural development of the universe and life on Earth was for the sole purpose of not allowing us to retroactively prove any divine intervention whatsoever.
+All claims to miraculous events and artifacts which could possibly be scientifically verified can be safely disregarded, and their promoters known to be misguided. There is no fucking way God would give us natural explanations for literally everything on earth except for perfectly preserved bodies of saints, miraculous healing, bloody statues, magic shrouds, or whatever else. It wouldn't make any sense.
+--- 14897658
+>>14897529
+Hugues de Payens
+--- 14897664
+>>14897634
+>Try putting paint on your face, wrapping a cloth around it then opening the cloth. The imprint is going to be stretched and distorted you dumb fuck.
+
+except that print cannot be replicate even with today technology
+
+You believe a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew. >You lack the intelligence to tell the difference between objective facts and your retarded delusions.
+
+you believe fish for some reason grow arms walked up to land and then transformed into monkey
+--- 14897666
+>>14897658
+debunked
+--- 14897675
+>>14897529
+>>14897658
+>>14897666
+Hugues de Payens or Payns (9 February 1070 - 24 May 1136) was the co-founder and first Grand Master of the Knights Templar. In association with Bernard of Clairvaux, he created the Latin Rule, the code of behavior for the Order.
+--- 14897705
+1136 the Shroud of Turin date.
+--- 14897721
+>>14897705
+debunked by numerous studies
+--- 14897921
+What's Christianity's position on closed borders and globohomo?
+--- 14897942
+>>14896268 (OP)
+I imagine your IQ hovers somewhere around 80 or so
+--- 14897947
+>>14897921
+as bible says you should protect your home and family againts enemies
+--- 14897956
+>>14897664
+>you believe fish for some reason grow arms walked up to land and then transformed into monkey
+Explaining basic evolutionary biology to a christcuck would be a waste of time. After all you believe a magic cloth proves that a virgin gave birth to a magic Jew.
+--- 14897961
+>>14896268 (OP)
+Druid here, Christians tongue my anus
+--- 14897968
+>>14897947
+That doesn't do it for me. These people come as poor migrants in great need. As a Christian your duty is to love your neighboor and even selflessly offer them your personal belongings to comfort them. What divine law constitutes whether these people are enemies or not? And to which extent does "home" reach?
+--- 14897974
+>>14897968
+There's no such divine law, Christian are supposed to sell all and become wandering preachers
+--- 14897983
+>>14897974
+Ok I see. So there is no basis in Christianity about ethnostates or closed borders and territorial integrity. So that means that we need secular/poltical laws about it.
+--- 14897996
+>>14897956
+>DU UH WATER TURN INTO FISH THAT GROW LEGS AND TURN INTO BIRD TUUU DUUUUU
+
+This is your brain on goyslop
+--- 14898005
+>>14897664
+>he believes the Shroud is proven to be authentic
+>he doesn't believe that genetics prove common descent
+That's about the level of intellectual honesty (or just straight up intellect) that we can expect to deal with here, lol.
+--- 14898013
+>>14897721
+There was only one study that supposedly "debunks" this, and that study only says that the results of their specific type of analysis aren't incompatible with dating it to the 1st century if it was kept under extremely specific conditions.
+Of course you guys misinterpret that to mean that it is actually dated to the 1st century because you're low IQ.
+--- 14898019
+>>14898005
+Its very simple bible talks about cloth ? Yes
+Does bible talks about some fish-monkey ? No
+
+Does jews make it up as they did with moon landing and 9/11 ? Yes
+--- 14898025
+>>14898013
+rabbi mad his silly 1 jewish study doesnt prove it wasnt Jesus
+--- 14898046
+>>14897996
+>I don't understand biology. 
+>Therefore magic jew.
+--- 14898054
+>>14898025
+You have no study proving that it is authentic, and you are going to call any study that disagrees with your opinion Jewish. You are not a rational agent.
+--- 14898072
+>>14898046
+according to your biology there is 100+ henders and man can get pregnant
+--- 14898093
+>>14898072
+The 100+ genders shit isn't s biological claim. It won't save you from the objective facts of DNA sequencing unless you want to deny genetics like troons do.
+>Nooooooo XX chromosomes aren't real!!!!!!
+^ this is basically you, christroon
+--- 14898094
+>>14898019
+>worships the Jewish god
+>believes Jewish mythology is an account of human history
+>GRRRR THOSE JEWS
+Buckbroken lmao
+--- 14898122
+>>14898093
+>>14898094
+hmmmm so this is what athegayists believe in 
+
+https://laney.edu/biology/use-of-language-in-biology-gender-and-sex/
+--- 14898136
+>>14898122
+>literally says that gender is a social construct that has nothing to do with genetics
+Thanks for proving my point, christroon. Now dance for me like a good monkey and tell me how DNA is a conspiracy meant to keep trans people down.
+--- 14898149
+>>14898072
+>>14898136
+These posts just prove there are no Christians on 4chan, just maladjusted social rejects addicted to outrage and online politics. You're literally a caricature of the fedora of last decade.
+--- 14898157
+>>14898136
+>DNA is a conspiracy meant to keep trans people down
+
+why down ? atheism is only reason trannies are growing and turning your kids into zombies
+--- 14898164
+>>14898149
+>These posts just prove there are no Christians on 4chan, just maladjusted social rejects addicted to outrage and online politics. You're literally a caricature of the fedora of last decade.
+--- 14898171
+>>14898157
+It allows bigots to say that trans women are not women because they have XY chromosomes. Just like DNA sequencing allows bigots to say that we have a common ancestor with other animals.
+In short, DNA is a bigoted scam, christsister.
+--- 14898175
+>>14898164
+>further illustrating my point
+GG
+--- 14898186
+>>14898171
+>>14898175
+
+tell me were we up to moon ?
+--- 14898193
+>>14898186
+Yes. Tell me, is DNA fake, christroon? Is it just a scam that was made up to prevent you from transitioning to Christianity?
+--- 14898219
+>>14898072
+No evidence religiosity follows a dumbell curve. Religiosity is negatively correlated with IQ and the difference is greatest on the most genetic subtests. In other words you believe and say stupid shit because you are genetically predisposed to be a dumbass.
+--- 14898222
+>>14898193
+>DNA
+
+yes just because they said that this fish is your uncle doesnt mean its fact
+--- 14898227
+>>14898222
+>yes just because they said men have XY chromosomes and women have XX doesn't make it right
+lmao
+keep on trooning
+--- 14898229
+>>14898219
+>Religiosity is negatively correlated with IQ and the difference is greatest on the most genetic subtests
+
+enjoys your drag shows pedo another creation of atheist degenerates
+--- 14898233
+>>14898227
+https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/
+
+rip
+--- 14898238
+>>14898233
+>yes my trans sisters, we can't just look at the DNA, that would be bigoted
+lmao
+you just can't help yourself, troon
+--- 14898271
+>>14898238
+lol stance of biologists change every 2 weeks so ?
+
+Now go and support pregnant males
+--- 14898280
+>>14898271
+The DNA science stays the same, but you don't like that because it's bigoted. 
+You side with the tranny changing science, I side with the stable DNA science. That's all there is to it.
+--- 14898300
+>>14898280
+>tranny changing science, I side with the stable DNA science
+
+same thing
+--- 14898312
+>>14898300
+Saying "woman is XX, man is XY" is the same thing as saying that there are 100+ genders?
+Very progressive, christroon.
+--- 14898339
+>>14898312
+lol not anymore thanks to atheism
+
+https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/im-xy-know-sex-determination-systems-101/
+--- 14898353
+>>14898339
+Yeah that is the science that you side with. I side with hard data from DNA analysis, but you prefer the trooned up version. 
+I don't know why you keep repeating yourself, I already understand your position.
+--- 14898358
+>christianity is the last bastian of righteousness keeping degeneracy at bay
+--- 14898369
+>>14898353
+>hard data from DNA analysis, but you prefer the trooned up version
+
+give it few years and will totally change tot the point you will get jailed for saying otherwise
+--- 14898384
+>>14898369
+And you'd prefer that to be the case right now because you think the DNA science is bigoted towards Christianity, lol. Keep on trooning.
+--- 14898404
+>>14897529
+>wrap a cloth around a face 
+>Imprint an image of where the face touches the cloth 
+>the proportions are as the face is seen normally when laid flat 
+You motherfuckers are so dumb lol
+--- 14898405
+>>14898384
+>DNA science is bigoted towards Christianity
+
+No since its doesnt prove anything
+--- 14898409
+>>14898405
+>uh sweaty actually DNA science doesn't prove that my XY chromosomes make me a man! 
+lmao
+--- 14898429
+>>14898409
+Lol retard need dna to know difference between male and female
+--- 14898431
+>>14898429
+Nice pivot, retard. Doesn't change the fact that you side with the troons on the DNA question.
+--- 14898436
+>>14897053
+All of this is unsupportable bullshit.
+--- 14898443
+>>14898431
+I side with God who said that trannies are satan children
+--- 14898444
+>>14898443
+Yet you side with the tranny view of genetics. Curious.
+--- 14898453
+>>14897529
+The shroud of Turin is a fraud, we have a confession from the guy who made it and even the fucking Vatican refuses to claim it's real.
+--- 14898459
+>>14898444
+No I just point out how ridiculous your science is
+--- 14898471
+>>14898459
+Yeah you think that the anti-troon science is ridiculous. I know.
+--- 14898516
+>>14898471
+>whine about muh DNA
+>give source of science being pro tranny
+>noooooo you are pro tranny
+
+you okay ?
+--- 14898523
+>>14898516
+The pro-tranny science is an attempt to ignore the DNA science - just like you're doing. Because you're a troon.
+--- 14898550
+>>14898523
+>The pro-tranny science is an attempt to ignore the DNA science
+
+DNA will perish thanks to trannies atheism is pushing so much so I dont care
+--- 14898566
+>>14898550
+Yeah you don't care if the tranny science replaces the real science because you prefer the tranny science. I know, I know.
+--- 14898582
+>>14898566
+yeah
+--- 14898584
+>>14898582
+At least you admit it, troon. That must've taken a lot of courage to come out like that.
+--- 14898625
+>>14898584
+What it is about athegayists they had to talk about trannies 24/7 ? Are your brains really that rotten
+--- 14898648
+>>14898625
+I’m not an atheist but this is blatant projection. You cannot disagree with Christians here without being accused of being trans
+--- 14898660
+>>14898625
+You're the one who brought it up here >>14898072. Live by the troon, die by the troon.
+--- 14898663
+>>14898648
+I didnt call you tranny I point out that science is passing trannies ideology
+--- 14898693
+>>14898663
+The science used in DNA sequencing is anti-tranny if anything. You just don't like it because it doesn't agree with your ideology, hence why you're equivalent to a tranny.
+--- 14898735
+>>14897705
+Spot on.
+--- 14898746
+>>14898693
+tell me was missing link between humans and ape found ? hmmm no ? interesting
+--- 14898755
+>>14898625
+Christian gaslighting is proof of a Judaic origin.
+--- 14898765
+>>14897961
+this
+--- 14898768
+>>14898746
+Literally don't need it, DNA proves common descent without any need for fossils. 
+But because you asked so nicely, here's your missing link.
+--- 14898781
+>>14898768
+seeeeee this monkey skeleton prove it was actually human
+--- 14898793
+>>14898781
+You're the one who asked for a missing link, lol. Why ask if you don't think that's even admissible as evidence?
+And to repeat myself, the DNA evidence is perfectly sufficient to establish common descent by itself. The fossils just show us what some of the ancestors looked like.
+--- 14898816
+>>14897961
+>>14898175
+>>14898444
+>>14898471
+>>14898755
+proofs. lol
+--- 14898826
+>>14898793
+>the DNA evidence is perfectly sufficient to establish common descent by itself
+
+no you believe it because jewish scientist told you to believe same with global warming and moon landing
+--- 14898846
+>>14898826
+>no the anti-troon science is false!
+This is getting really sad.
+--- 14898865
+>>14896268 (OP)
+If Christianity cannot be proven by the end of this thread, I will convert to Atheism.
+--- 14898891
+>>14898746
+Least religious countries: Czechia, Estonia, Japan
+>high IQ
+>de facto ethnostates
+>developed
+>low crime rates
+Most religious countries: Afghanistan, Ghana, Uganda
+>low IQ
+>brown/black
+>third world
+>violent shitholes
+--- 14898953
+>>14898891
+wow non negros are peaceful shocking
+--- 14898956
+>>14898846
+Same guys that brought science also brought trannies so whats your point ?
+--- 14898975
+>>14896404
+Go with the 'face as a man', He will never let down.
+>>14897012
+Jehovah's Wiccans (JW) proved Christianity.
+--- 14899416
+>>14897205
+i don't see how these verses you posted change the fact that paul contradicted jesus time and time again. besides, why even need paul? jesus alone gives all the teachings that are necessary for salvation
+--- 14899568
+>>14899416
+Paul's letters were written 40 years before the Gospels existed. So it's the Gospel authors that contradict Paul.
+--- 14899585
+>>14898072
+He didn't eve n say that
+--- 14899588
+>>14899568
+except paul could still have lied about what jesus really said. if anything you just highlighted how unreliable the scriptures are in the first place
+--- 14900495
+>>14898891
+least: uk
+most: us
+--- 14901411
+>>14899568
+James was first.
+--- 14901432
+>>14896277
+Ironic that you're positing an actual cuckold
+--- 14902313
+>>14896291
+>there's no evidence of that
+Except, you know, PAUL. And all the Hellenistic Mystery Cults (which were syncretized with foreign cultures like the Persians, Thracians, Egyptians, etc. You do the math on what a Judeo-Hellenic mystery cult would look like)
+--- 14902324
+>>14898953
+Exactly. The most inferior races are the most religious.
+--- 14902644
+>>14896268 (OP)
+It's historical
+--- 14903117
+I have reached Gnosis
+--- 14903134
+So was present to record Jesus alone with the devil in the desert and in the garden of Gethsemane (when apostles were asleep lol)
+--- 14903136
+>>14898891
+>Czechia, Estonia,
+these two are like the least developed countries in europe by almost every metric
+--- 14903139
+>>14903117
+Oh, hello fellow druid.
+--- 14903144
+>>14903139
+Reporting Sir.
+--- 14904103
+>>14898768
+Did they make DNA tests of it?
+--- 14904936
+Claim A: Jesus prophecized the end of times would come within the lifetime of his disciples.
+Proof: Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32.
+
+Claim B: It didn't happen.
+Proof: Historical consensus.
+
+Claim C: Jesus was a false prophet.
+Proof: Claim A, claim B and Deuteronomy 18:22.
+
+Claim D: Jesus deserved to die by biblical standards.
+Proof: Claim C and Deuteronomy 18:20.

his/14896409.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,130 @@
+-----
+--- 14896409
+Why is it always the redheads who get recast as Black? It's uncanny how often this happens.
+--- 14896416
+Black girls are more attractive than white girls.
+--- 14896418
+I don't think Greek incest children had red hair
+--- 14896442
+>>14896418
+Contemporary art depicts her as a redhead. See pic related and the portrait from Pompeii and the bust with some paint still in the hair, and I'm sure I'm leaving others out.
+
+When Cleopatra hair became fashionable, Julius Caesar remarked that there were more redheads in Rome than in all the Celtic tribes.
+--- 14896456
+Wasnt Alexanders wife also an Redhead, or was it ginger?
+--- 14896464
+>>14896456
+She was described as having a ruddy complexion.
+--- 14896471
+>>14896409 (OP)
+>redheads who get recast as Black? It's uncanny how often this happens
+It happens so regularly that it's a trope on /co/. Doesn't answer why it's always redheads, but yes, it certainly is.
+--- 14896513
+>>14896409 (OP)
+This Cleopatra barely even looks black at all, there's this weird horseshoe theory phenomenon where liberals end up with similar views on race as Varg. If an otherwise West Eurasian face is even vaguely dark skinned it might be declared Black, which is literally Ameriniggers, who were kings indeed. It's such a bizarre race-shifting attempt.
+--- 14896527
+>>14896513
+Egypt is in Africa. Africa is Black. Which means Cleopatra was Black.
+--- 14896536
+>>14896409 (OP)
+White person here who despite being right wing is not a hateful virgin
+
+I HAVE TRAVELLED TO OTHER COUNTRIES, Egypt being one of them and egyptians aren't white. Cleopatra is not white. This is a stupid fight we have no reason to care for yet you imbeciles still fight over this. Travel to Egypt and see for yourselves. The only white people in egypt are american tourists for fucks sake
+--- 14896547
+>>14896536
+Bait so stupid that you'd still come out looking dumber than anyone who takes it seriously.
+--- 14896689
+>>14896536
+Indigenous Egyptians came from the same peoples as did the Arabs. They were never from sub-Saharan "black" Africa. Native Egyptians are still very much Arabs.
+
+But the Ptolemaic dynasty to which Cleopatra VII belonged was a European, Macedonian lineage.
+--- 14896748
+>>14896409 (OP)
+it will happen when 4chan's story is told as well
+--- 14896770
+>>14896409 (OP)
+>Black 
+I feel sorry for amerimutts who are so mixed they don't know what real blacks look like.
+--- 14896798
+I think this netflix shit might be a discord ruse. A new thread gets posted every few hours.
+--- 14896801
+>>14896748
+What board is this? They're too white to be /pol/.
+--- 14896847
+>>14896409 (OP)
+WE
+--- 14896851
+>>14896801
+It was a different time
+--- 14897227
+>>14896536
+Cleopatra wasn't even Egyptian, moron
+You should have studied history instead of travelling third world shitholes
+--- 14897236
+>>14896409 (OP)
+I've seen some people argued that since the Ptolemaic dynasty intermarried with the locals and since we don't know precisely about her mother, she could have been black.
+Frankly, is that even plausible?
+--- 14897545
+>>14897236
+>the Ptolemaic dynasty intermarried with the locals
+lel
+--- 14897556
+>>14896442
+That's not a redhead, same color as her eyes
+--- 14897562
+>>14896409 (OP)
+Either way, Cleopatra is ethnically and culturally unrelated to either type of american
+--- 14897571
+>>14897556
+colorblind
+--- 14898110
+>>14896416
+(X) Doubt
+--- 14899544
+>>14897236
+
+No, considering how the Greeks and Macedonians viewed their conquered subjects with contempt. The idea of an aristocratic Hellenes family marrying a local was unthinkable.
+--- 14900534
+>>14897236
+First, they did not intermarry outside of their own dynasty.
+Second, even if they did, the locals were Arabs, not Blacks.
+So no, it's not even plausible.
+--- 14900543
+>>14896418
+Incest causes recesive traits to pop up. Joos have more redheads than scotts. But cleopatra tried to bleach her skin bathing in milk. And redheads are naturally non-melanized.
+--- 14900800
+>>14900543
+That makes a lot of sense
+--- 14900821
+>>14900534
+>the locals were Arabs
+--- 14901254
+>>14896536
+"Not white" does not automatically = black
+--- 14901894
+>>14896409 (OP)
+>Why is it always the redheads who get recast as Black?
+There has to be a reason. is it because the redheads are already distinctive looking?
+--- 14902215
+>>14900821
+Genetically they were almost the same thing, incorrect terminology but the sentiment is essentially right.
+--- 14902616
+>>14896409 (OP)
+Idk
+--- 14902750
+I'll just leave this here.
+--- 14903750
+>>14896536
+Pretty much proofs you have never been out of your mothers basement and you projected your mutteducation on a timeline 2000 years ago.
+--- 14903758
+>>14896536
+The people who built the Great Pyramids and laid the foundations of Ancient Egypt were white unlike you. Cleopatra was Greek.
+--- 14904143
+>>14896851
+Sad, I went as an anon once to a con a decade ago, I felt like if I did it today I would get assaulted and vanned
+--- 14904191
+>>14902215
+Saying ancient Egyptians are the same as Arabs is almost as retarded as saying they're niggers
+--- 14904203
+>>14904191
+No, you don't understand, they really are the most similar population, albeit with still a fair bit of distance.

his/14897313.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,405 @@
+-----
+--- 14897313
+>Biden is a French name
+
+Why do so many white Americans identify as Irish or Scottish and such when in real terms they have no connection to them beyond some vague stuff like “my grandfather had an Irish second name!”
+
+It’s bizarre because I can’t imagine this shit happening in a European country. You don’t see some guy in England with a Swedish second name whose family has lived there for 120 years proudly claiming he is Swedish and misses his homeland
+--- 14897319
+>>14897313 (OP)
+>implying the origin of someone's last name is necessarily reflective of the majority of their genetic makeup
+retard
+--- 14897323
+>>14897313 (OP)
+americans decide their ancestry by throwing dart at Europe’s map but because most Americans are fat drunks they land it in Ireland and Scotland
+--- 14897329
+>>14897323
+>most Americans are fat drunks
+The ones who take after the Founders, in any case.
+--- 14897332
+>>14897319
+If genetic makeup is how you decide your culture, why aren’t most white Americans harping on about being German and English
+--- 14897335
+>>14897332
+Because those are both the "losers" in the only two wars any of them care about.
+--- 14897337
+>>14897332
+It's understood that most White Americans are mostly English, so when people want to be special they will of course emphasize less common ancestries. Plus American culture is basically a spinoff of English, so if you want to learn about your ancestors' culture, food, dress, music, traditions, etc. it's only natural to take an interest in something more distinct than English. 
+Also plenty of White Americans harp on being English anyway, moms everywhere love the Royal family. 
+Why do you care anyway?
+--- 14897347
+>>14897313 (OP)
+American here, I agree, its complete bullshit. The people who do shit like that are usually the Trad types who feel like they need some connection to the "Old World" to ground themselves, and its ridiculous
+THAT BEING SAID, there is a lot of legitimacy behind a lot of Americans saying they're Irish or Scottish, because the last major wave of European immigrants to the United States happened fairly recently, between the late 19th to early 20th centuries, and so many of us remember having a grandparent or great grandparent who would often share stories of growing up in Ireland or Scottland before immigrating to the United States. 
+If its any consolation, I can say with confidence me and my family are all Anglos, we arrived in America in the 1600s and remained in heavy Anglo communities through to the present day. I know the names and identities of 11 of my ancestors since then from both sides of my family. But if you ask me, I'm just an American. And will always be an American. Because I guaruntee you my earliest ancestors from after 1776 would never want to call themselves English either.
+--- 14897351
+>>14897337
+>Why do you care anyway?
+
+God I hate people like you
+
+>don’t discuss anything! Caring is lame!
+--- 14897603
+>>14897313 (OP)
+It's an English name actually.
+--- 14897621
+Ireland and identifying with it is sort of a meme in America, that’s all there is to it really.
+--- 14897648
+>>14897313 (OP)
+>Biden
+>French name
+
+Dans quel monde c'est un nom français putain ?
+--- 14897847
+If I remember correctly his mother is of Irish descent while his dad was Huguenot.
+
+That said, yanks typically identify with whatever part of Europe (of the parts which they have significant ancestry from) that they like most. Everyone loves Ireland, everyone hates Brits. It's simple enough.
+--- 14897982
+>>14897603
+All English Americans say they are Irish or Scottish though. 
+
+Not really any that say they’re welsh for some reason
+--- 14897986
+>>14897847
+>everyone loves Ireland
+
+Do they? Kinda just seems like they see them as weak and therefore an easy underdog figure
+--- 14898468
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Because generally you do have a connection to these countries. I'm mixed Italian and French for example. I was raised Catholic and my mother typically cooked Italian meals while growing up. I'm not going to say I'm as Italian as someone born in Italy, but there are still echos of the culture that my great-grandparents brought over with them all around me. You do feel a slight connection. I certainly feel more Italian than french though since my mom was the homemaker and she is the Italian one.
+--- 14898479
+>>14897847
+so I'm mostly of German ancestry but also a little Hungarian on my mother's side but who gaf about Hungary?
+--- 14898730
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Americans simply think the irish and scottish are cool rebellious plucky noble savages, in direct opposition to the tyrannical, pompous and lame european kingdoms of Britan, France and the like.
+--- 14898774
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Could be from the Norman's, like Fitzgerald. I've never met a Biden though 
+t. Irishanon
+--- 14899169
+At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Americans called themselves Irish just because it's funny how irrationally angry it makes Anglos online
+--- 14899433
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Norman conquest or Latin-Franks immigration
+--- 14899442
+>>14897313 (OP)
+That's not the only thing that Biden has falsified. He's not even the President. President Trump is still the President.
+--- 14899453
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Truth is that Europeans and especially Western Euros have been mixing with each other for over 1000 years and more elite your family is the more they mixed. Nationalism and language standardisation is a flavour LARP that's literally younger than America.
+--- 14899467
+>>14898730
+Literally this. Same reason why white as fuck Americans will boast about being part native Apache somehow
+
+Irishness is joke to Americans culturally. The equivalent of the it’s a small world ride at Disneyland. Which makes the Irish grovelling at their feet always amusing
+--- 14899471
+>>14899169
+>everybody I don’t like is Anglos
+
+I’m Brazilian. You guys are retarded. And that’s coming from a Brazilian
+--- 14899480
+>>14897313 (OP)
+He wants Irish to vote for him. It's similar to how Warren Wilhelm Jr. goes by Bill de Blasio so Italians will vote for him.
+--- 14899489
+>>14897982
+Americans don't even know what Wales is.
+--- 14899555
+>>14899489
+>europeans so high off their own smugness they think we don't know basic sea creatures
+We have one of the largest coastlines in the fucking world, you stupid eurocuck.
+--- 14899630
+>>14899555
+Kek.
+--- 14899658
+>>14897847
+Also there's a religion factor. Biden is Catholic, so he won't identify with the Huguenot side. An awful lot of American churches are really ethnic ones.
+--- 14900206
+>>14899480
+Yeah it's basically a 2024 campaign trip aimed at Irish-Americans in the Midwest and Pennsylvania. I thought it was funny that Biden came out at that rally to the Dropkick Murphys.
+--- 14900235
+I'm not Catholic, my family were pretty fundie Church of Christers, but Biden has a "Catholic" vibe to him from what I've seen as well. Which makes sense because he's Catholic, but he sometimes looks like a priest. He's only our second Catholic president too.
+
+A rather gothic figure in some ways.
+--- 14900259
+>>14897332
+My girlfriend and I are both white Americans with English surnames who are ethnically English but I've never really met any other ones.
+--- 14900271
+>>14900206
+>a geriatric boomer billionaire who eats big macs and had an army of people storm congress waving pepe flags
+>another geriatric, literally too old to be a boomer, whose entire hopes of staying us president rest on him being able to convince enough muh heritage fags he's actually irish
+you know i'm starting to think i'm unconscious and my brain is (poorly) making up a world it thinks is realistic
+--- 14900363
+>>14899480
+>He wants Irish to vote for him
+What year is this, 1880? The Irish bloc stopped being important by the 1930s when Italians displaced their political machines in the big cities.
+--- 14900387
+>>14900363
+What other reason do people have to vote democrat?
+--- 14900460
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Why do Europeans feel the need to ask daily why American's care about their ancestry? Nobody cares about random buzzfeed articles about where the name Biden came from, but why is it such a strange thing for someone to take an interest in their genetic roots?
+--- 14900561
+>>14900387
+There are none, for boomers anyways. The only boomers who still vote for the Democrats are Catholics.
+--- 14900579
+>>14900259
+You’re Irish. Stop letting the Britishers lie to you
+--- 14900582
+>>14900460
+Same reason Americans ask Europeans stuff. While people have curiosity. If you don’t you’re not white
+--- 14900595
+>>14900579
+good morning sar
+--- 14900601
+>>14900259
+It's pretty common. What state do you live in? Here in Oregon most people I've met have English surnames. If you're from the east coast or midwest the whites are more exotic.
+--- 14900604
+>>14900579
+>Britishers
+--- 14900610
+>>14900601
+I’m English and I don’t understand why you’d take so much stock in surnames. Half the white people in England have “non English” surnames. Whether that be Irish, German, French etc
+
+If your family has been here for a century or more what difference does or make whatsoever?
+
+The main nationalist figure we had for ages was Nigel Farage and his second name is French Huguenot
+--- 14900635
+>>14897313 (OP)
+My last name is in English yet I'm almost 95% sub-Saharan African. Someone in my family about 7-8 generations ago married (yes, married) a free black woman in Jamaica, and now I exist.
+--- 14900644
+>>14900610
+>Whether that be Irish, German, French etc
+
+In a few decades this will include Slavic, specifically Polish and Albanian surnames.
+--- 14900649
+>>14900635
+Raxe-mixer bros... I thought that our grandkids would be white???
+--- 14900663
+>>14900610
+>I’m English and I don’t understand why you’d take so much stock in surnames
+It's not perfect, but it's at least some indication of someone's origins. If your name is Tortellini or whatever then it's unlikely you're a WASP.
+>Half the white people in England have “non English” surnames. Whether that be Irish, German, French etc
+I doubt it's that many. What makes you say that? Sorry to be a sourcefag but source?
+>If your family has been here for a century or more what difference does or make whatsoever?
+I wasn't making much of a claim about whether it matters or not. Just an observation.
+>The main nationalist figure we had for ages was Nigel Farage and his second name is French Huguenot
+Yeah but he's not really French either in terms of ancestry or culture. It's like one guy who passed the name along.
+--- 14900740
+Its Robinette (Joe Biden's real name) that is a French name, not Biden
+--- 14900769
+>>14899489
+Heh. The English don't even know they're Welsh because of penal laws. 
+anglo-kikes trolling b8 is eternal kek
+--- 14900772
+>>14900644
+Yeah, it will. There’s plenty of weird surnames already for random white people in England
+
+>>14900663
+Sorry. No source off the top of my head.
+
+It’s just that if you look white. You’re basically assimilated into being English by the second generation.
+
+Off the top of my head there’s even plenty of mixed race people who technically aren’t white but you wouldn’t know
+
+>Emilia Clarke
+
+Part Indian
+
+>Kate beckinsale
+
+Part Burmese
+
+>Boris Johnson 
+
+Part Turkish 
+
+None of them think they aren’t English
+--- 14900813
+>>14900772
+>You’re basically assimilated into being English by the second generation.
+>None of them think they aren’t English
+America was swamped with various ethnics whereas in England it's just been a trickle. For a long time they had their own enclaves so the identity persists even long after it's become moribund and larpy. Biden grew up with his mother telling him he's Irish so that's what he thinks he is.
+--- 14900863
+>>14900610
+>Half the white people in England have “non English” surnames.
+Nah that's bullshit
+--- 14900904
+>>14900561
+ha no there are a lot of boomers of various flavors that are staunch Democrats including richfags on the coasts, most Jews, and most government workers.
+--- 14900907
+My great grandparents Anglicized their surname during the anti-German butthurt spree in WWI.
+--- 14900970
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Here in Argentina your ancestry is considered a "fun fact" at most. People may give you a nickname based on your surname (the Polish dude, the Italian, the Turk, the Russian, etc) but it's mostly boomers who do that. You may also get asked where your surname is from, and people have a vague idea of where their grandparents came from, but it's really not something part of your identity.
+
+In the past (until 1950s?) there used to be "immigrant's clubs" (people of Basque ancestry would go play paddle at a place called the Basque Club, or a person of British ancestry would go play rugby at a place called Hindu Club) but now while these places still exist with those names, people mingle completely, they are no longer ethnic clubs but rather Argentine football and rugby clubs.
+
+I think the tendency of Americans to hyphenate makes the differences worse... like, why not simply be an American, as opposed to Irish-American, Mexican-American, etc. ?
+--- 14900979
+>>14898479
+If you're mostly German (75-80%) genetically, then you're a German, even if you're born in the US. If you're born to German/Italian/Irish/Finnish/Slavic parents, that's what you are. Simple as.
+
+Like euros aren't a mishmash of their own countries themselves.
+--- 14900981
+>>14900970
+>Hindu Club
+This is not a dig at you Bongs btw. There really is a club called that. I think the founders were Anglos with some ties to the Raj.
+--- 14901056
+>>14897313 (OP)
+It's because the Irish immigrants who went to America saw themselves as "temporary refugees" who would return to an independent Ireland. They actively encouraged and instilled Irish nationalism onto their kids and the Irish themselves encourage this because it gets them tourism money and an army of Plastic Paddy golems to shill for Irish interests in America.
+--- 14901062
+>>14897332
+>German
+World Wars made them lame, also Americans cannot speak German anymore
+>English
+It's the "default" and therefore taken for granted and seen as boring. Nowadays having "Anglo Saxon pride" is also decried as White Supremacist and seen as evil/immoral/racist/etc.
+--- 14901071
+>>14897603
+England has plenty of French names, for obvious reasons. Normans + Huguenots gave us all the D'Arcys, Sinclairs, Bidens, Villes, Bassets, etc.
+--- 14901080
+>>14899169
+>how irrationally angry it makes Anglos online
+*all Europeans
+Italians lose their shit at Americans because they slightly modify the sacred recipes or whatever. It's always the "AAAAA ANNNNOOO YOU A DESECRATE A DAH PASTA NNNOOO AMERICANO PIG!"
+--- 14901092
+>>14900635
+Caribbean and North American blacks almost always have British surnames. Every black American or Jamaican I've met has a name that would fit in Hampshire or Lancashire lol
+--- 14901099
+>>14901080
+Cutting pasta in half is retarded though.
+It gets soft within less than a minute of the cooking process.
+--- 14901104
+>>14900970
+The USA is just like that as well, your impression of it from online interaction is simply muddled by the fact that everyone behaves like a caricature online.
+Intermarriage is the norm in the US, even for Jewish communities, like 50% of Jews in the US marry non-Jews now. 
+>If you're mostly German (75-80%) genetically, then you're a German, even if you're born in the US.
+No you're not, unless you actually speak German. The Amish can be called "Germans" of a sort because they actually speak (a dialect of) the fucking language.
+Wannabe fifth columnist fags who can't pronounce Streichholzschachtel have no right to call themselves "German"
+--- 14901105
+>>14901092
+That’s because black slaves got baptised and given new names. Obviously they’d get anglo ones.
+--- 14901111
+>>14901104
+>>If you're mostly German (75-80%) genetically, then you're a German, even if you're born in the US.
+>No you're not, unless you actually speak German. The Amish can be called "Germans" of a sort because they actually speak (a dialect of) the fucking language.
+Wannabe fifth columnist fags who can't pronounce Streichholzschachtel have no right to call themselves "German"
+was directed at 
+>>14900979
+--- 14901421
+>>14901111
+Then fire up Rosetta Stone and learn the language. Talk to older relatives and learn words/phrases from them.
+
+I said GENETICALLY German, not culturally.
+--- 14901433
+>>14901080
+Irish and Italians are reversed in America. The Irish are worse in America but better in Ireland, and the Italians are worse in Italy but better in America. 
+
+https://youtu.be/6Ov-nXHoVK0 [Embed]
+--- 14901467
+>>14898479
+Me
+>t. Albanian
+--- 14901770
+>>14901092
+Jamaicans in particular always have old fashioned British names. Nine times out of ten, if you see a black man named Clifford, Barrington, Wesley, Nigel, or Winston, they're of Jamaican descent.
+--- 14901774
+>>14900649
+Hilariously, if I married a white woman, I'd still be passing down my R1b haplogroup, but with a very different genetic profile.
+--- 14901778
+>>14900970
+>why not simply be an American
+
+It's because Anglo Saxon descended Americans made sure that we would never forget that we aren't them, and will never be them. We had to either assimilate losing everything we had or we couldn't assimilate due to either racial or ethnic discrimination. The best example of this are African Americans. Even if there's someone who was descended from nothing but freemen for 12 generations back and was as American as could be culturally, their race would immediately mark them as "other". 
+
+Besides, I know Argentines have different issues relating to race, what happened to your black people? Even Uruguay still has a visible minority that isn't ultra mixed race, and they're even whiter!
+--- 14901781
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Biden is actually an Anglo-Saxon name. Doesn't get any whiter than that. I don't even like Biden, you're just flat out wrong.
+--- 14901856
+>>14900206
+That's so adorable that he can't actually run on wokeshit because nobody wants that stuff so instead he has to do this quaint 1950s Democrat campaign thing like "Yeah I'm totally a blue collar Irish dude just like you folks."
+--- 14901860
+so he's not biologically irish, but he identifies as that and we have to accept it
+--- 14901866
+>>14901860
+No idiot, his mom is Irish.
+--- 14901964
+>>14897332
+>on about being German and English
+Germans got supressed to death in WW1, otherwise I would assure they would be as autistic as Argentine Germans. As for the English, they either became Southern, consider themselves American (the last two overlap), or died as the last WASPs in New England
+--- 14901989
+My father was Scottish and was born there and yet I don't feel like I'm Scottish
+I have no connection to the Scottish people
+I think Robert Burns is a boring poet
+--- 14902083
+>>14901104
+Glad to hear
+
+>>14901778
+>what happened to your black people?
+They blended into the population. 6% have some African genes. Where did da black people disappear is some meme question only clueless foreigners ask... if you understand we only had like 500k people at independence and 7 million Euros and Middle Easterners immigrated it makes perfect sense they were outnumbered by the immigrants. Black population was small because slavery was abolished very early, there were no plantations like in the USA. They were mostly limited to domestic servants for rich people in colonial times.
+
+>>14901964
+>I would assure they would be as autistic as Argentine Germans
+Don't even know what this is supposed to mean but our Germans are all pretty liberal and integrated with the community, it's hard to find a German descendant that isn't part Spanish/Italian/Native or whatever. Even weird mixes like Armenian-German descendant like David Nalbandian (tennis player).
+--- 14902123
+>>14901778
+>>14902083
+BTW, Uruguay is whiter but they received both less Euros (proportionally) but also much less immigrants from the rest of South America as we did in modern times, so they have less native genetics. Their population is a bit more similar to colonial times. African percentage is mostly the same in both countries, it's just that theirs are more visible and ours are more bleached.
+
+Uruguay has 4% African genes concentrated in 4-5% of the population, we have 2% African gene admixture spread out in 6% of the population, people like Juan Veron (soccer player) who may not "look black" but they have some African heritage. So they are not "visibly black" but they exist.
+--- 14902144
+My grandfather was mostly German yet he identified with his Irish background which was like 5% way more. No fucking clue why honestly
+--- 14902154
+>>14902123
+Proud to be a shiItalian and also Uruguayan diaspora.
+--- 14902598
+>>14897313 (OP)
+Biden is a Jewish name
+--- 14902733
+I fucking hate the USA and Biden but watching British media seethe endlessly about his visit to Ireland has been very funny
+--- 14902783
+>>14897332
+I think it’s because (in addition to what >>14901062
+ said) Irish race were people living in the shit. Viewed as “harded” by most people unlike Germans and the posh English “hur hur hur!”
+--- 14903339
+>>14902733
+Trump is half-Scottish. He could have visited Scotland and made a speech about Bannockburn if he wanted to annoy them I suppose.
+--- 14903346
+yeah yeah we know German-American identity was largely suppressed during WWI. the Midwest has a lot of Scandinavians as well but they also largely assimilated and didn't preserve a separate identity for very long.
+--- 14903357
+>>14901104
+I'm French Cajun. It was an incredibly insular community before the late-20th century. My great grandparents didn't even speak English. I'm PVR Frog on both sides going back to colonial days.
+--- 14903475
+>>14901866
+You get your ethnicity through your father, imagine saying your Spanish and being named van der weide.
+This is how it goes in Europe atleast.
+--- 14903593
+>>14901856
+Politicians, especially these kinda "retail politicians" who have doing it their whole lives, can often be quite charming in person. I've only met one pretty high-up guy (presidential debate stage level), not Biden though, and I thought the guy was a dummy, but they have this weird glint in their eyes that disarms people. Then if they get a decent line or joke in they'll flash that politician Smiler grin at you. It's bizarre.
+
+It's interesting how he does it. Love him (who does though?) or hate him, Biden is either craftier than his enemies have given him credit for, or he is somehow (maybe) synthesizing American politics in a weird way out of necessity just so it can hold together. He is applying a kinda neo-Keynesian policy and folded Bernie in, but he's an old white guy who's doing that quaint '50s thing like you said. He's sorta woke in a general moral sensibility but he is totally confident in his ability to speak in the same cultural vernacular as the average retiree. Like I said, very Catholic. Which he is. There's a Catholic culture that's more "quiet." He wanted to bring the temperature down.
+
+>>14902733
+The British media is terrible. It's worse than America and our media is pretty fuckin bad
+--- 14903714
+To be totally fair I doubt every white American has European ancestry from the continent dating back centuries. There are definitely more whites that are the spawn of celtic and German dregs, that’ve coke more recently. So their parents probably bring it more.
+--- 14903739
+>>14897313 (OP)
+My entire moms side is full Scottish and my dad is fully English. Do you spend all day on 4chan letting Americans live rent free in your head or something?
+--- 14903895
+>>14903339
+He tried and the Scots gave him endless shit
+--- 14903981
+>>14899169
+I'm anglo and i don't care?
+--- 14904692
+>>14903593
+>It's interesting how he does it. Love him (who does though?) or hate him, Biden is either craftier than his enemies have given him credit for, or he is somehow (maybe) synthesizing American politics in a weird way out of necessity just so it can hold together. He is applying a kinda neo-Keynesian policy and folded Bernie in, but he's an old white guy who's doing that quaint '50s thing like you said. He's sorta woke in a general moral sensibility but he is totally confident in his ability to speak in the same cultural vernacular as the average retiree. Like I said, very Catholic. Which he is. There's a Catholic culture that's more "quiet." He wanted to bring the temperature down.
+what the fuck are you talking about
+he's a senile old retard who they put up to appeal to "swing voters" (white middle class people), he probably literally has moments he doesn't know he's president.
+https://youtu.be/oGW76zRKZM0 [Embed]
+--- 14904725
+>>14897332
+Because my family is from Germany and didn't stop having German traditions just because they moved to America. Do you think immigrants are stripped of all their cultural baggage at the border?

his/14898424.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,100 @@
+-----
+--- 14898424
+>tfw no Manchurian tomboy gf who's into femdom
+--- 14898904
+>>14898424 (OP)
+Hanjian
+--- 14899403
+>>14898904
+Gay in denial
+--- 14899421
+>>14898904
+She was Manzu, not Hanzu
+--- 14899575
+>>14898424 (OP)
+>Yoshiko_Kawashima
+doesn't sound very manchurian to me
+--- 14899739
+>>14899575
+Birth name was Aisin Gioro Xianyu, but she was raised in Japan
+--- 14899756
+>>14898424 (OP)
+>On 22 November 1925, Yoshiko said that she had "...decided to cease being a woman forever."
+> she would only use the male style of Japanese grammar
+
+>but trans people are totally a new concept
+--- 14899803
+>>14899756
+>the male style of Japanese grammar
+eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
+--- 14899883
+>>14898424 (OP)
+manchus deserve their homeland
+--- 14899896
+>>14899883
+Manchus stopped existing after chuang guandong.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuang_Guandong
+Chinks got scared after Russia annexed Primorsky (Vladivostok area) and decided to fully settle the sparsely populated Manchuria so that the Russians couldn't claim any more of it.
+There are no native Manchus left. The people who claim to be just want the tax benefits it provides in the modern PRC.
+--- 14899995
+>>14898424 (OP)
+Women LARPing as men is a sure sign of autism.
+--- 14900337
+>>14899739
+>this 
+Much like Napoleon and Mohammed Ali
+--- 14900359
+>>14900337
+I didn't think Japan was big on boxing. Didn't Mohammed Ali face prejudice growing up in Japan?
+--- 14900515
+>>14900359
+>face prejudice growing up
+>doesn’t know actual madlad Mohammed Ali 
+American education
+--- 14901877
+>>14899756
+No one cares about F2M, if they want to play on hard mode they're welcome to it.
+--- 14901904
+>>14898424 (OP)
+didn't the chinks execute her after the Japanese were flushed out?
+--- 14901914
+tranny
+--- 14901920
+>Even if I have a home, I can't go home. I have tears, but I can't speak. I have a law, but I can't find justice.
+Her death haiku
+--- 14901927
+days since /his/ romanticized a collaborator war criminalfu: 0
+--- 14901982
+>>14898424 (OP)
+femdom defeats the purpose of tomboys
+--- 14902002
+BASED
+--- 14902542
+>>14898424 (OP)
+Weirdo
+--- 14902567
+She is from the SHANDONGIC tribes
+--- 14902593
+She is noble commander of 88th 8 Banner Shandonger Battalion
+
+She will never betray the Mighty Great Pan Shandong Empire
+--- 14902600
+VGH SHANDONG
+BEE
+BEE
+SEA
+--- 14902811
+>>14898904
+Learning about China made Manchu women turbohot to me
+--- 14903266
+>>14901920
+sauce?
+--- 14903316
+>>14899756
+tomboys are praised and welcomed, ywbaw
+--- 14904616
+>>14902600
+huh
+--- 14904623
+>>14903316
+tomboys are degenerate

his/14898545.txt

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+-----
+--- 14898545
+is katana the most memed weapon in the history of mankind? they're actually fucking useless.
+--- 14898572
+>>14898545 (OP)
+
+Swords in general are memed weapons. There's not a whole lot they can do that spears, axes, clubs, maces, and polearms can't do 100x better with only a fraction of the materials required in making them.
+--- 14898602
+>>14898545 (OP)
+Katanas were good swords that saw lots of use and imitation through late medieval and early modern east asia.
+They're far from shit and I'm not taking a katana of dubious make handled by someone of nonexistant skill as indicative of their use.
+That said, yes, I can't think of a weapon that has been more hyped and overrated than they have.
+I'd say spears are becoming a solid second place because of retards like >>14898572, but the distance to katanas is still beyond massive.
+--- 14898779
+Katanas were fine for the role they fulfilled, which was as a sidearm and status symbol.
+--- 14899485
+>>14898602
+>a katana of dubious make
+This is is, really. No metal should warp like that. This is a genuine ebay era katana.
+--- 14899491
+>>14898545 (OP)
+
+Katanas are meant to be used exclusively against flesh. Not armor, not wood, not plastic, not a rifle barrel, not even another katana.
+--- 14899510
+>>14899491
+>Not armor
+Then they're fucking useless.
+--- 14899529
+>>14898545 (OP)
+You need an American blade to defeat an American beverage.
+--- 14900385
+katanas not only are useless but are also gay tbqh. feminine "weapon". when I imagine a person holding katana it is some kind of skinny faggot or a woman. as opposed to something manly like claymore.
+--- 14900435
+>>14900385
+https://youtu.be/vzqeu0euWA8 [Embed]
+--- 14900457
+I nominate the switchblade. It's criminalization in the US is entirely based upon popular panic derived from aesthetics and media. It's not meaningfully more dangerous in the hands of a criminal than a normal folding or sheath knife.
+--- 14900842
+>>14898545 (OP)
+>samurai believed the sword was their very spirit
+imagine what regular coke would reduce Ichiro to
+--- 14900875
+>>14898572
+The sword is a far better weapon than all those meme melee weapons. They just happen to have a specialization whereas the sword is a generalist weapon.
+--- 14900881
+Swords are oversized knives
+--- 14900936
+>>14900457
+That's a good point. When I finally got my hands on one, it was very disappointing
+--- 14900955
+Did someone mention a meme useless weapon?
+--- 14901634
+>>14898545 (OP)
+Probably, though a lot of people shit on katanas just as much in response to them being so overhyped by media. Historically speaking a samurai’s main weapon on the battlefield was either a bow/arquebus or a spear/polearm, with the katana being reserved for intense close quarter fighting or in case your spear/polearm broke. They got mythologized since they were symbols of the samurai as a class, used for duels and self defense, and carried around all the time. The whole folded a billion times thing is because Japanese iron is shit, so the whole process was necessary to make the swords decent in the first place. As far as it’s actual effectiveness in battle is concerned it seems the Ming held a pretty high opinion of them, in the Battle of Byeokjegwan during the Imjin War the Ming literally cited their daos (Chinese swords) being inferior as one of the main reasons they were defeated by the Japanese. (Battle devolved into a dense melee) The Japanese also seemed to think Chinese swords were pretty trash, and they would use the ones they found as impromptu spikes for their fortifications. Of course that might be saying more about Chinese swords than anything else, but I don’t really have any other examples I can think of that bring up katanas in particular.
+--- 14901714
+>>14898545 (OP)
+Correct, if you want a curved blade go for an English cavalry sabre or a Persian scimitar. Both places had better metal techniques and technology than the Japanese. In japans peak katana production age, the Scottish had been making better swords for about 300-500 years. Some katana are beautiful pieces of art and the Japanese have cool weapon technique that has survived but that’s about the nicest thing I can say about them. Check out /k/ and ask the kommandos. They’ll know more about metal types and modern blacksmiths / forgers than I can remember.
+--- 14901785
+IIRC the Germanic tribes in proto-feudal castle towns/city states had better construction methods for arms/armor. They were beautiful pieces of craftsmanship that were also amazing tools of war. That only really got more noticeable as they got placed under a local hegemon and urbanized more later on down the line. Tod did a pretty cool video on it a while back.
+>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hz-WDYtYCw&t=206s [Embed]
+--- 14901791
+>>14899510
+They were for killing peasants not soldiers
+--- 14901979
+>>14898545 (OP)
+I am not a bottle slicer expert. How should this have looked with a proper sharp sword (of any type)? I would guess it would slice into it and embed itself minimum, but would it completely cut it apart? The latter seems a bit anime for something of a consistency such as plastic+water (I'd expect it for something like flesh).
+--- 14902020
+>>14898545 (OP)
+>>14901979
+What happens if you use a katana that isn't a halloween toy:
+https://youtu.be/bAkEd8r7Nnw?t=237 [Embed]
+--- 14902458
+>>14898545 (OP)
+Katanas weren't made for war since the 1650s, they banned samurai duels around that time and had roughly 200 years of peace under a feudal military dictatorship. Also their unification war was fought almost entirely with guns, which they were continuing to manufacture during their peace time.
+--- 14902505
+>>14898602
+
+Swords has absolutely no strategic value on the battlefield. A formation of swords cant accomplish anything.
+
+A formation of spears has a hundred different strategic values.
+
+Spears could be mass-produced with very little cost. A sword required a hundred times more effort and cost to make.
+--- 14902858
+>>14902505
+spot the skinny fat hema autist
+--- 14902870
+>>14898545 (OP)
+When you buy a sword from China it probably won't arrive sharpened even when it says it is sharpened.
+--- 14902877
+>>14902870
+Most if not all swords "Made in China" are really just what most hoplologists would call "Swordlike Objects". They aren't even intended for cutting and often use very soft steel. Their purposes are usually just as LARPing props OR as decorative art pieces, not as proper cutting tools. I honestly think thats what gives katanas in general a bad name. Properly made katanas are on par with European broadswords.
+--- 14903306
+>>14898545 (OP)
+Wasn't it just yesterday that caused the massive schizo outrage
+--- 14904136
+katana is overrated, and staff is underrated
+--- 14904163
+>>14902505
+And that's great up until that shit breaks, gets interleaved, or fighting gets close. Everyone who could afford a sword brought one, to the point where the Swiss had to have regulations forbidding pikemen from wearing full on longswords so they'd bring something shorter.
+--- 14904202
+>>14902505
+*Laughs in latin*
+--- 14904210
+>>14898545 (OP)
+Yes. But the katana was a good sidearm for its place and time regardless.
+--- 14904223
+>>14898545 (OP)
+It wasn't useless, but it wasn't exceptional either like in anime. It was the equivalent of a saber, scimitar or some other curved cavalry sword.
+
+>katana.webm
+If a bottle of coke can bend it permanently, it must be made of poor quality iron not steel.
+
+Poor quality iron was actually a problem in Japan which only has iron sands as a source of ore, this may have contributed to the myth of the Katana, their owners being among the few able to afford the best steel, they could have shattered the weapons of the Ashigaru levies or poorer Samurai. However, compared to a saber or scimitar from elsewhere in the world they were about the same.
+--- 14904700
+>>14904223
+So where did they source proper steel sourced during sakoku?
+--- 14904844
+>>14904700
+They used a,way of forging that turned pig iron into carbon steel, I think.

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+-----
+--- 14898581
+>If all the women that you ask out reject you, then it's you. Not the system, not them, not some arbitrary condition but YOU.
+
+Is he correct?
+--- 14898587
+Yes.
+--- 14898590
+>>14898581 (OP)
+No.
+--- 14898614
+>>14898581 (OP)
+>>14898587
+>>14898590
+Evil rat.
+--- 14898638
+>>14898581 (OP)
+There is always room for improvement on your part, but it's also true that women overvalue themselves and undervalue men. Women rate 80% of men as below average, and even Peterson acknowledged that.
+--- 14898679
+Just wait until you get a bit older. I'm in my 40s and women won't leave me alone. Perhaps that's depressing, but I am awful at relationships and deserve to be perpetually single, so it's nice to have a series of short relationships if you can get used to them ending. Women's standards change a lot as they mature, and some of them stop chasing idiots.
+
+Just like with men, most women are NPCs on autopilot. There are a lot of thoughtless people out there, consumed only with their own desires and emotions. It takes some digging, but there are women looking for something better, and not physically. But you've already fucked up if you're massively overweight.
+
+Also rejection hurts more when you're younger and the hormones are making you feel more desperate. Relax and concentrate trade on your career and hobbies.
+--- 14898680
+>>14898581 (OP)
+It isn't that all the women reject you, it's that the jealous men destroy you. Repulsive, creepy men have no trouble.
+--- 14898715
+>>14898581 (OP)
+If all women reject you, you are justified in raping them.
+--- 14898834
+>>14898614
+Demonic weasel, adversary of order and corruptor of logos.
+--- 14898847
+>>14898638
+That's only on social media apps and the like, I don't trust those contraptions.
+--- 14898860
+>>14898679
+>But you've already fucked up if you're massively overweight
+Yeah that's a mental thing.
+--- 14898958
+>>14898847
+Well that’s where everyone is.
+There are no women at bars
+No women at the mall
+No women “out on the town” 
+No one goes to a food place or a tourist destination to meet potential boyfriends
+Everyone dates online
+Life trying to find a woman is hellish for a man under 30.
+--- 14899073
+>>14898958
+Are you from the U.S.?
+--- 14899829
+>>14898638
+Yea but there are also lots of ugly guys with girlfriends
+--- 14899834
+>>14898958
+Yeah college is the last time where you can meet young attractive women organically
+--- 14899854
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Most likely. You need to look for the common denominator. Is there another question beind your question, OP?
+
+>>14898679
+Good post. Men's sexual market value increases over time unless they waste their time.
+
+>>14898958
+>No one goes to a food place or a tourist destination to meet potential boyfriends
+They do go to gyms to meet some. A family friend paid for a gym membership, met a guy on her first day there and never felt the need to go again. They are married.
+--- 14899865
+He’s not wrong 
+
+Nature has NO time for losers or consolation prizes
+--- 14899870
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Yes. Elliot Rodgers couldn’t figure this one out and look what happened.
+--- 14899871
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Why he wears two-face suits now?
+--- 14899872
+>>14898834
+Filthy goyim
+--- 14899887
+>>14899871
+One of his key insights is that the "ideal" state for a human being to live in is the line between chaos and order, heaven and hell etc. I think he's trying to incorporate that into his wardrobe, but like most things he's put out in the past couple years, the only limit he's reaching is one between cringe and embarrassment.
+--- 14899889
+>>14898581 (OP)
+This is a classic example of the “personal is political.” This is also a perfect example of sophistry. He is using a universal generalization without any proof. A person's inability to maintain romantic relationships is not a reflection of their value. Some people prefer solitude or simply aren't ready.
+--- 14899897
+>>14899870
+Elliot Rogers literally never asked out a girl even once, in his entire life. He believed he was attractive and rich enough that women should approach him. He said as much in his manifesto. Dude went on a killing spree because he refused to "lower himself" by asking girls out.
+--- 14899905
+>>14899889
+This is a classic example of "bullshit".
+>He is using a universal generalization without any proof.
+Common denominator is evidence.
+>A person's inability to maintain romantic relationships is not a reflection of their value.
+Nobody mentioned value.
+>Some people prefer solitude...
+Doesn't even relate to the question, because such a person wouldn't necessarily seek success in approaching.
+>Some people ... simply aren't ready.
+Thanks for agreeing with JP.
+
+Take your estrogen.
+--- 14899910
+>>14899889
+>>>/r9k/
+--- 14899920
+>>14899834
+Based.
+--- 14899992
+>>14899834
+There's also churches I guess. I thought about doing that, but I realized I can't stomach Christianity anymore and I'd feel bad about misleading a Christian woman if I just faked it. Do people really not go to bars or something anymore? I don't know because I'm a borderline incel.
+--- 14900027
+>>14898638
+This
+--- 14900035
+>>14899992
+>I'd feel bad about misleading a Christian woman if I just faked it
+Normal dudes don't give a shit. I've seen it so many times dudes go to churches just to hit on chicks then make them their girlfriends and never go back to service.
+--- 14900053
+He's right, but the mass psychological experiments that somehow got out of the lab called social media completely shattered normal human relationships.
+
+I would modify his statement as such:
+>If all the women that you ask out or message reject you, then it's you AND your online profile. Not the system, not them, not the ALGORITHM, not some arbitrary condition but YOU AND YOUR ONLINE PROFILE.
+--- 14900065
+>>14900035
+See the thing is though, if you're looking for wife material I think serious, trad churches are probably the way to go. In that case, they're most likely not going to put up with a faker. That's just my impression being raised in churches like that. Most churches are full of nominal Christians however, so being a faker isn't that big of a deal since most people there aren't that serious about the religion to begin with.
+--- 14900077
+>>14900053
+I never had social media and I never will.
+Cope and seethe kikes.
+--- 14900090
+>>14900065
+Christianity is perfectly rational and reasonable. Plantinga and Swinburne use modal logic and probability calculus to show that the faith in Christianity and the metaphysical worlds it opened up are completely sound.
+--- 14900117
+>>14900090
+I don't care about the logical side of it so much really. It's emotional. I don't like many things about the religion. I don't think it's necessarily more rational or compelling than other religions however.
+--- 14900118
+>>14900077
+I know this is 4chan and people aren't the brightest social butterflies out there but if you want to get women and don't have even just a simple innocuous Instagram profile with some semi-decent outdoor pictures and the like, you're a retard shooting itself in the foot. There's plenty of perfectly normal women who use them, not all of them are BPD social media junkie whores who post their bodies for million of thirsty males to see.
+
+Get on with the times. You either consciously utilize the new tools that are available to everyone or let other people who know how to use them cuck and stomp you and invisibly devour all your potential partners without a clue because you're living like it's 2004.
+--- 14900187
+>>14900118
+>but if you want to get women and don't have even just a simple innocuous Instagram profile with some semi-decent outdoor pictures
+This is the truth and it sucks because I hate that shit. You have to have it now. All I have is a blank profile I use to follow instawhores. Even though I don't use my real name it's tied to my real phone which probably isn't good, people I work with have probably seen it. I hate that shit too when it recommends you people from your contacts.
+--- 14900190
+>>14900118
+I can't, I used a fake FB profile when in college for file sharing and that's that. The moment I post a picture online I feel like I lose to evil.
+
+I'm ambiverted though, so I socialize after tennis or sports.
+--- 14900281
+>>14900190
+>so I socialize after tennis or sports.
+Those people keep talking amongst each other through their phones, probably make group chats and are interacting way more when they're not playing sports. You're missing out.
+It's not like uploading 3 pictures (more than enough) of you from afar is going to have glowies accompanied by zuckerberg and World Economic Forum goons knocking on your door or something. They already have your phone number anyways.
+--- 14900286
+>>14898581 (OP)
+It really depends. I'm inclined to say "yes" if it's literally every woman you're asking out. It's either how you come across or who you're asking. If you're setting your standards too high you will get a lot of rejections. If you have a one dimensional view of the issue and are, dare I say it, a "chud," then you're going to get a lot of rejections. Focus on making yourself socially and professionally competent and you'll have no problem.
+--- 14900323
+>>14898581 (OP)
+>If enough people do something its no longer bad
+--- 14900339
+>>14898638
+Depends on where you live
+
+In Brazil i have seen some ugly men dating beautiful women but never the opposite (that not to say that the type of women you mentioned don't exist here)
+--- 14900378
+>I will have to use virginity statistics as a proxy for the harder-to-measure romancelessness statistics, but these are bad enough. In high school each extra IQ point above average increases chances of male virginity by about 3%. 35% of MIT grad students have never had sex, compared to only 20% of average nineteen year old men. Compared with virgins, men with more sexual experience are likely to drink more alcohol, attend church less, and have a criminal history. A Dr. Beaver (nominative determinism again!) was able to predict number of sexual partners pretty well using a scale with such delightful items as “have you been in a gang”, “have you used a weapon in a fight”, et cetera. An analysis of the psychometric Big Five consistently find that high levels of disagreeableness predict high sexual success in both men and women.
+
+>If you’re smart, don’t drink much, stay out of fights, display a friendly personality, and have no criminal history – then you are the population most at risk of being miserable and alone. “At risk” doesn’t mean “for sure”, any more than every single smoker gets lung cancer and every single nonsmoker lives to a ripe old age – but your odds get worse. In other words, everything that “nice guys” complain of is pretty darned accurate.
+https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
+--- 14900642
+>>14900286
+just be competent bro
+--- 14900660
+Everyone knows pete says silly things. I think his fanclub has probably died down considerably with time as well
+--- 14900665
+>>14899834
+This is why I still go to my local college bar even though I’m 34
+--- 14900735
+Juden Peterstein
+--- 14900852
+>>14898581 (OP)
+It's both you and the system. You for being an ugly, depressed, useless joke of a "man". The system for completely destroying men-women relationships, unbalancing the sexual market and allowing animal-like hypergamy (30% of men reproducing with 60% of women).
+--- 14900950
+>>14898958
+People on social media also exist in real life.
+--- 14900978
+>>14898581 (OP)
+I dunno man. I'm 29, I've been single for 3 years now, and trying to find a woman seems impossible. I'm a pretty good looking guy, I'm fit and healthy, I have interests, and a fairly interesting job. 
+
+I've tried, and am currently trying, the online dating thing. The only matches/messages I ever get are from Filipinos obviously looking for a green card, incredibly obese women, or single mothers. When women who seem like they'd be a perfect match ignore me I wonder what the hell I can do better. It's not like they're turned off by my horrible personality because it's never gotten to that point anyway.
+
+I have no idea where I can meet women in the real world. None of my hobbies have a particularly high number of women in them.
+
+Maybe the issue is with me but I have no idea what that issue is or how to fix it. I aint fucking a fatty.
+--- 14900988
+casino bowling BALLS
+--- 14900999
+Fucking SLUT MACHINES
+--- 14901003
+>>14898679
+What incels don't understand is chad is over 30. Nothing makes a pussy drier than a man in his 20s. I look back at how pathetic I was. No wonder I didn't get laid.
+--- 14901005
+>>14900988
+>>14900999
+CHECK'EM AHHHHHH
+I'm also banned from starting a thread but reply is fine what the hell
+--- 14901148
+>>14900978
+Read this:
+>>14901003
+It wasn't my comment btw, I just agree with that anon. Just wait until you're as old as me and relationships are a huge annoyance because it takes away from my me time and hobbies. Plus most women are dependant emotional vampires and that gets really, really old, though I remember not being bothered by it as a young guy. Women have driven the cost up for sex so high I'd rather stay single. 
+
+As a 40-something, if you stay in shape and seem to enjoy your own life, you will get female orbiters, which is amusing. At least 5 different women keep regular tabs on me hoping to get a piece eventually.
+--- 14901179
+>>14900118
+Wrong. If a woman is addicted in Instagram is because she has totally bought into the hypergamous lifestyle. She's sticking her tentacles all the way out, hoping to get thr highest value guy possible, and fucking everything else that catches her fancy on the way. I reject any social media addict; they're low value and just mentally ill as we expected social media addicts to be.
+
+If you are a quality person and want a quality match, filter out that shit.
+--- 14901187
+>>14898581 (OP)
+thanks for the insight, junkie
+--- 14901413
+>>14898581 (OP)
+--- 14901472
+>>14901148
+You're probably right but I don't want fuckbuddies and orbiters when I'm in my 30s and 40s. I want a life partner.
+--- 14901495
+>>14898581 (OP)
+>this is what western thought comes down to in 21st century 
+
+There's no hope, is there
+--- 14901544
+>>14898581 (OP)
+sheogorath
+--- 14901566
+>>14900378
+The world is favoring the degenerate and the criminal. It's funny how this happened and if it was always the case.
+
+Did the criminal always enjoy life the most in the past?
+--- 14901585
+>>14901566
+No because in the past many societies had Darwinian socio-economics built into them in one form or another
+Criminals were frequently mobbed and killed, smart and forward-thinking people had more resources and thus had more children to pass on their genes to, dumb and short-sighted people would starve, get into fights and be killed, and their genes would presumably flounder because they couldn't get the resources they needed to have large families
+It's only in our current humanistic, welfare society that dysgenic traits can out compete what can be seen as positive or productive traits, the trash can just get gubmint gibs to pay for their mewling little cabbages, while intelligent people are increasingly having fewer and fewer children for various reasons (demoralization, cost/standard of living creep, etc)
+--- 14901605
+>>14901585
+This isn't to say this problem is only a modern one, the problem has been growing over time, it's just never been worse in terms of dysgenic traits being so good at competing with healthy traits
+--- 14901623
+>>14901585
+>Criminals were frequently mobbed and killed
+Unless they were cunning enough, then they got jobs in government.
+--- 14901679
+>>14901414
+Fucking brutal.
+--- 14901772
+>>14898581 (OP)
+There's no place for me to ask women my age out. There's no young women local church communities, there's no women in rural areas, in urban areas your only chance is signing up for university, and even then, men outnumber women 10 to 1 in STEM -- good luck lol. Your best bet is studying medicine, but for that you need to sacrifice few years of your life to study for entry exam lol.
+It really is over for western societies. 60% of young men are now single.
+--- 14901775
+>>14901772
+*maybe not few years, but 1000-1500 hours to do a career/sudden life path change and get into some med school and even then you are not guaranteed a girlfriend
+--- 14901818
+>>14898581 (OP)
+
+Yes. For every problem in your life you must ultimately look inward. You are responsible for every moment of your life. Only you. Every other idea is a fiction made up by your ego to protect you from the truth. And your life is only ever the present moment. Meaning now. Meaning that you are always responsible for how you feel right now. You create your own satisfaction and meaning.
+--- 14901837
+>>14901818
+>You are responsible for every moment of your life.
+Even if you were in a situation not caused by you?
+--- 14901858
+>>14900978
+Your profile pictures are just bad. Thats all it is. Get better photoes
+--- 14901882
+>>14901818
+society forcing me to go to school where I was surrounded by aggressive lunatics who went through puberty earlier than I did was sure my fault. So let's look -- that's about 10 (most important) years scratched off of my life already thanks to depression, and repeated failures throughout highschool + few more years because I had to make up my lacking education. Totally my fault right? And not that of my retarded parents, people who are in charge of education system? Woke shitstains who only focus on putting women on pedestal and refusing to look at problems of teenage boys?
+I am unlikely to ever start a family and have successful relationships based on my track record but I absolutely refuse to take responsibility for that. I take responsibility for improving my life from now on and putting in daily effort, but if I fail and that gets me nowhere then it wasn't my fault. I'll die knowing that western society was a failure, not me.
+--- 14901938
+>Read demoralization posts on here
+>Remember that irl everyone who wants to has a decent gf
+
+The internet "community" is the worst thing ever.
+--- 14902004
+>>14898581 (OP)
+I don't know. I was told to avoid them.
+--- 14902031
+>>14898581 (OP)
+>If 109 women that you ask out reject you, then it's you. Not the system, not them, not some arbitrary condition but YOU.
+>If 109 countries expell you that's different
+--- 14902036
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Juden Peterstein
+--- 14902069
+>>14901837
+Your reaction to that situation would probably speak to you and while you shouldn't flaggelate yourself, you should acknowledge and seek to redeem your flaws in behavior
+--- 14902098
+>>14898581 (OP)
+no, I disagree with that, giving women a choice in literally anything is why society is infested with vermin.
+--- 14902588
+>>14898581 (OP)
+What
+--- 14902623
+>>14900978
+Perfection.
+--- 14902690
+I only date women who don't use social media. They exist.
+--- 14902700
+>>14902690
+Good, those are not NPCs.
+--- 14902717
+>>14898581 (OP)
+If only these women understood the true value of a man like me. They refuse to accept it and miss their chances to get the best. Their rejections are simply the reflections of themselves; they are not valid criticisms.
+--- 14902930
+>>14901837
+
+Yes. 
+
+>>14901882
+
+And? You choose what meaning to ascribe to that. You make your own happiness.
+
+Read and apply the Power of Now and you guys could actually live a content life.
+
+Also, stop caring about this material world. It has nothing to offer but misery. Do not let it upset you. Instead, use it only so far as it supports your practical needs.
+--- 14902942
+>>14901882
+
+Meant to add it doesn't matter who is at "fault." Fault is a concept that YOU ascribe. The past doesn't exist. Only the present moment exists. Disconnect yourself from your thinking and you'll see that all these thoughts are not generated by you, but by your egoic mind. Your egoic mind builds up an ego, a narrative, in order to protect you. But true courage is telling your egoic mind that you don't need protection and that you're in control. It's called taking agency over your own life. Stop allowing your egoic mind to control you. You are the one in control.
+--- 14902952
+>>14901938
+you don't hear about lonely men in real life because politicians want to just shove this issue under the rug, and when you meet and socialize with people you artificially select for outgoing people who somehow are successful in this system. But all newest research says that about 60% of (young?) men are lonely. Better look at your family.
+--- 14903007
+>>14902952
+There would be a mass shooting pushback if those numbers were to be believed.
+--- 14903058
+>>14903007
+I think that's because those men get their partial socialization fill from sources like social media, streamers (parasocial relationship), or discord "friends". Take those things away and they would be out there wrecking shit up.
+--- 14903261
+>>14900642
+It's called work. 
+And women love competent men.
+--- 14903264
+>>14898581 (OP)
+>if you can't meet modern women's insane standards it's on you
+--- 14903268
+>>14900286
+>Just have social skills and be extroverted broo xD
+Thank you for your brainlet input.
+--- 14903278
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Maybe from a modern perspective.
+--- 14903308
+>>14903268
+You can trail extroversion.
+--- 14903315
+>>14900339
+you're a poor country
+--- 14903321
+>>14903308
+>just switch you personality 180
+thank you retard
+--- 14903334
+>>14898679
+What are the ages of these women?
+--- 14903335
+>>14902036
+Go sully another site, you coward.
+--- 14903358
+>>14898679
+>just wait until you are 40 brooooooo
+--- 14903369
+>>14901148
+I want a gf now when I'm in my physical peak in my 20's not at 40 you fucking shit for brains TRP imbecile.
+>hurrrr Chad is 75 years old acktually
+No he isn't, Chads were literally fucking at 15 or so, if anything they stopped fucking as much after 30 you guys are nuclear copers.
+--- 14903374
+this >>14898638
+
+If you were some turbo gigachad you'd have a gf, sure, but things are more difficult for men today, it has never been like this in history. Take anyone from previous generations and raise them in a society where they are socially alienated and everyone is brainwashed to think men are toxic and you'd see similar results.
+
+Further, even if we were to strive to become gigachad, we would only be doing it to conform to this demoralized neurotic society. Why bother? There are plenty of other options in life. Why not strive to become a good christian man and marry a christian woman and live the traditional lifestyle your ancestors did before the "sexual revolution"? Why conform to a society that hates you? It's a dead end, the future belongs to ethnic minorities and the few white people still raising families.
+
+It is time to give up on the whole leftist experiment that began in the 60s, we can see the writing on the wall now, it has run its course. It was all a ruse to corrupt and weaken us, we would be much happier without it. Yes, work hard, work on yourself to get a wife, but work AGAINST the system dragging you down, not with it.
+--- 14903561
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Why is he cosplaying as the TF2 announcer?
+--- 14903692
+>>14898715
+This. Might makes right
+
+>>14899073
+Rent free?
+--- 14903701
+>>14901416
+That’s why women shouldn’t be trusted with matters of the state. Nothing they select for has any basis in logic. They are retarded. All of them.
+--- 14903718
+I'm sad this post is dripping with resentment. The people around you are a mirror of yourself, if you are surrounded by ugly, degenerate non-virgin women, what does that say about you?
+--- 14903722
+>>14898958
+>There are no women at bars
+Wrong, I fucked one a month ago
+>No women “out on the town”
+Wrong, I got their number a week ago
+--- 14903726
+>>14903718
+>post
+thread*
+--- 14903736
+>>14899992
+People go to bars, they just meet women online beforehand that they then take to the bar. Women don't go to bars anymore unless someone's already taking them.
+--- 14903968
+>>14898581 (OP)
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Of course he is correct but that doesn't mean that it's enough to wash your penis or that you should now like feminism all of a sudden. 
+
+I'm living proof that women care about more than good looks because I'm good looking and got rejected multiple times. 
+
+One might say I increased the chances of getting rejected by falling in love with unattainable girls (unattainable not because of their superior looks but because of their peculiar connection to me). You can be very good looking but if you're a loner, a creep if you give off serial killer vibes women can almost smell that.
+--- 14903987
+>>14898581 (OP)
+
+>If everyone around you is saluting Hitler except you You're the problem not them.
+--- 14904009
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Yes, but that doesn't mean that the "problem" is solvable
+--- 14904029
+>>14903007
+The world isn't America, in most of the Western world it's 1 extremely hard to commit a mass slaughter 2 the consequences (spending the rest of your life in prison or having to kill yourself) are enough to put off most people, and depression doesn't always equate being a psycho full of rage or even bloodlust
+--- 14904036
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Nobody wants to think that women have unrealistic standards.
+--- 14904038
+>>14903968
+>You can be very good looking but if you're a loner, a creep if you give off serial killer vibes women can almost smell that.
+Just lol
+The famous female personality detector meme
+--- 14904045
+>>14903968
+And you know you're good looking because... your mom and your aunt told you? Lol.
+
+Being in shape or not short doesn't make you necessarily good looking
+--- 14904057
+>>14904045
+It kind of does 
+Very few men are in shape and not short, contrary to the LARP you hear on this site
+--- 14904062
+>>14904045
+>And you know you're good looking because... your mom and your aunt told you?
+You mean they lied?
+--- 14904172
+>>14904045
+>>14904045
+I've been told that I'm very good looking and that girls must be waiting in line all my life. I know this is the internet but I'm objectively good looking by these evolutionary psychology / lookism criteria as I'm tall, have light hunter eyes, a good jaw line, beautiful hands, naturally good teeth and so on. But I'm painfully shy and I might have some type of personality disorder. I had a gf in the past and had sex with multiple women but years of isolation have basically made me a modern Fredrick Clegg.
+--- 14904216
+>>14904172
+>I've been told that I'm very good looking and that girls must be waiting in line all my life
+Yes, your parents and friends lie to you to be ncie and because they know you're depressed and / or have no confidence, happened to me to, doesn't make you attractive. At best you're average
+--- 14904229
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Yes, it is YOU that are ugly or genetically unfit because of autism or other disorders.
+--- 14904250
+>>14901003
+what a fucking cope. Men get uglier and uglier incommensurably every year by the time they're 30, sometimes evern sooner.
+
+
+>but you have more money!!!1!
+
+1) not necessarily
+2)even if you do at best you're gnna get some washed up eastern european / third world goldigging whore who'll empty your wallet and leave you for a younger, more good looking actual chad
+
+Now that women don't need a man to be independent that meme about muh old guys slayers is over.
+--- 14904266
+>>14901148
+Lol Chad is 30? The chaddest guys I know started in fucking middle schoold and got hotther and hotter girlfriends in Highschool and Uni and still do now that they're almost 30. Fuck I would much rather get sexual life from 13 to 30 and then never have sex again that having no young lovers and starting a sex life with washed up infertile desperate whores and retarded goldiggers when I'm 30-40
+--- 14904270
+>>14898581 (OP)
+yes wow how defuq did he come to that realization :)
+--- 14904290
+>>14898581 (OP)
+what a genius
+--- 14904293
+:)
+--- 14904453
+>>14898581 (OP)
+True.
+I mean, if you only get rejected then either you aren't asking enough women out, or there is something wrong with you.
+Perhaps you don't have good hygiene or posture, or you don't know how to talk to women or which women are in your league.
+
+Sure there are plenty of problems with modern dating, but I think the manosphere overstates them.
+I don't think 'modern women' have really changed all that much. Maybe they are less good at being wives, but I don't think they're that much harder to get
+--- 14904627
+>>14904453
+>or which women are in your league
+This is such a dumb statement, you either like X or not. We are souls with bodies, not bodies with souls, as the Muslims say.
+--- 14904636
+I regret making this thread.
+Jannies please delete.
+Resentful garbage.
+--- 14904639
+>>14903315
+Yeah but we are rich in sovl and that all that matters
+--- 14904655
+>>14898834
+good post
+--- 14904689
+>>14900378
+>tfw your agreeableness as measured with the Big5 is in the 10th percentile and you still don't have sex
+--- 14904751
+>>14898581 (OP)
+Women owe me sex
+--- 14904845
+>>14904751
+They owe you a meal and some talk.
+--- 14904941
+>>14898581 (OP)
+No, he is absolutely dead wrong. Modern women are worse than cancer. They're responsible for all of the sexual societal ills that came after the Sexual Revolution. Our patriarchal male ancestors have been greatly vindicated by the degenerate age we're living in. Let this be a lesson learned.
+--- 14904972
+>>14898581 (OP)
+109 women rejected me, I'm clearly being persecuted

his/14898852.txt

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+-----
+--- 14898852
+Right-wing atheists will often say abortion is "eugenic". Is there any actual proof of this?
+--- 14898861
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Nothing wrong with eugenics, per se. It's wrong to enforce it on people from the top down though.
+--- 14898864
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Most aborted babies are niggers
+--- 14898869
+>>14898852 (OP)
+the early advocates for birth control were eugenicists
+--- 14898870
+>>14898852 (OP)
+>Right wing
+>Atheists
+--- 14898879
+>>14898852 (OP)
+The sorts of people who get abortions are those with low impulse control (hence accidental pregnancy) and who don't value anything sacred (such as chastity or human life). These attitudes and temperaments are largely heritable, therefore abortion is eugenic.
+--- 14898882
+>>14898870
+There's a huge infight between Christians and eugenicists on /pol/ and RW Twitter when it comes to abortion
+--- 14898883
+>>14898870
+>>>/pol/
+See for yourself.
+--- 14898897
+>>14898879
+This.
+--- 14898901
+>>14898882
+>>14898883
+/pol/ is dead. 90% of its users are bots. I do not visit that board anymore.
+--- 14898908
+>>14898901
+>90% of its users are bots
+Most of the Internet is like this
+--- 14898913
+>>14898901
+It's not just bots. I don't even think that /pol/ has that much organic traffic because whenever any right-wing e-celeb does anything the entire board gets filled with shills from their telegram promoting their website or youtube channel.
+--- 14898918
+>>14898861
+Are you proposing a grassroots eugenics movement?
+--- 14898926
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Simple, the caliber of woman who would want to get an abortion is the kind of woman who should be getting them anyway. Self-selection.
+--- 14898936
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Blacks are low IQ and violent by nature
+Blacks have the most abortions per capita
+
+VIOLA!
+--- 14898942
+>>14898908
+The D e a d I n t e r n e t t h e o r y is just a theory, for now. 
+
+>>14898913
+/pol/ is very clearly a h o n e y p o t . 4chan, 8 c h a n and such radicalised forums are always heavily monitored and shilled. 
+t. has spent a long time on /x/ and /pol/ 
+
+P.S. Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
+P.P.S. I've been trying to post for 5 minutes now
+--- 14898944
+>>14898870
+I'm a right wing atheist, ask me nothing
+--- 14898980
+>>14898870
+It makes dating pretty tough for me lmao
+--- 14898987
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Is this from some pregnant JAV porn? Serial number?
+--- 14898993
+>>14898987
+Stop watching porn idiot
+--- 14898996
+>>14898987
+They're not pregnant in the original pic, I blessed their wombs with AI.
+Sadly I can't find the original pic
+--- 14899035
+>>14898852 (OP)
+eugenics is only moral if its androcentric, not gynocentric.
+--- 14899050
+>>14898879
+Beta argument, the word impulsive is a way pathetic nerds who got stuffed into lockers at school try to stigmatize the socially dominant
+--- 14899052
+>>14898996
+What jav is this from and what AI software do you use?
+--- 14899055
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Sex-selective abortion would solve the incel crisis. If we abort 80% of male fetuses, the other 20% will be guaranteed to be swimming in pussy. You couldn't be an incel in that world because women would be forced to fuck you lest they end up alone
+--- 14899056
+You can kinda get proof of it in a “saying the quiet part out loud” kind of way. Abortion started as a progressive thing and until mustache man biological racists and secular progressives were united around the socially hygienic role of abortion. Even today liberal proponents of abortion often strongly imply that there is some implicit eugenic function; “poor and uneducated women need access to reproductive healthcare so they can get their careers on track” and such does imply that the poor and uneducated will be culled. There is significant difference in intent sure, abortions are being promoted to make the lives of individual poor and uneducated women better and not for the hygiene or improvement of society, but the biological impact of abortion is the same either way. Poor and black and brown women do abort at higher rates, so the goal of racist and progressive eugenicists is achieved even though the moral justification for abortion has been altered to be individualistic and nominally for woman’s benefit. Sometimes though you do get cynical lefties saying stuff like “if you chuds don’t allow abortions for poor people, should have to pay for the children’s healthcare/woman’s foodstamps etc.” This means that lefties do believe that those seeking abortions are socially dysfunctional and insolvent
+--- 14899059
+>>14899052
+>What jav is this from
+Don't know the source 
+> and what AI software do you use?
+Stable Diffusion
+--- 14899070
+>>14898918
+>what is human reproduction?
+--- 14899077
+>>14899055
+wouldn't work unless incel phenotypes were detected in the womb and eradicated accordingly. Women will quite literally fuck dogs before incels so you can't just throw off the sex ratio and expect them to lower their standards.
+--- 14899104
+>>14899050
+You mean people get pregnant on purpose and then abort their children?
+--- 14899122
+>>14899077
+NTA, but lemme just interject here and point out that women who fuck dogs are typically doing so for money. They'd gladly fuck whatever you imagine an incel to look like for money too if said incel had money to give them.
+--- 14899152
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Why would a "Christian" care about eugenics?
+--- 14899154
+>>14898852 (OP)
+>Right-wing atheists will often say abortion is "eugenic"
+As right-wing as i can be abortion is a way to purge genetics considered unfit or defective, but it must be combined with data, the needs for human resources, and advanced technology to understand if those individuals are really needed if you want a central planner to take care about that.
+
+It could be a way to decrease sufference from bad genetics, or a way to condemn your race as you dangerously decrease genetic diversity resulting in being unable to cope with environmental change if your way to practice it is scientifically retarded, but so far artificial selection multiplies genetic diversity and you can see it in domestic animals like dogs or plants like pic related.
+
+In conclusion, as a libertarian, do whatever the fuck you want, it is self-selection from dumb whores anyways as others pointed out.
+--- 14899171
+>>14899152
+They don't
+--- 14899202
+>>14899171
+Then why would they care if Atheists think abortion is eugenic?
+--- 14899222
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Nothing wrong with eugenics. I hope abortions remain accessible for minorities.
+--- 14899226
+>>14899202
+Because "dude you're playing god", and nature for these types is not a struggle for survival, but a struggle to get rewarded at the end of your life.
+--- 14899265
+>>14899222
+Why do white ladies in Europe abort the kids they have with white men but never the kids they have with non white men?
+--- 14899271
+>>14899265
+Source?
+--- 14899273
+>>14899265
+stats?
+--- 14899285
+>>14899265
+Niggers get more abortions. I don't believe there are statistics on white women getting pregnant by niggers
+--- 14899301
+>>14899122
+I'm just saying if you put a golden retriever and an incel in front of a woman and told her if she had sex with either one one of them she would get 10 billion dollars, 100% of them would go with the dog.
+--- 14899328
+>>14899285
+I’m talking about Europe dumb mutt.
+>>14899271
+Just my lived experience in Europe. Minorities here don’t really get abortions (i guess they take religion seriously) so European women make up the main users of abortion clinics. Nearly every European country has below replacement birth rates yet i see white women with mixed kids all the time. Some of these women are poor or young (uni students etc) so they should get be getting abortions as their quality of life is low so their kid will live a pretty shitty life…yet they choose not to and keep the baby instead even if they have to raise it alone. Why do white women who get pregnant with white men’s kids not do the same? I see many white couples but not many white kids. They give the same excuse “oh we’re poor” “oh I just graduated” but white women who are pregnant with mixed kids in the same situation still choose to give birth. Why?
+--- 14899330
+>>14899265
+the source is my ass i guess
+--- 14899342
+>>14899328
+>i see thing so it must be true
+i see a lot of shit yet i'm the one crazy
+--- 14899345
+>>14898852 (OP)
+https://www.bitchute.com/video/BPUFn7sgGrqR/
+https://www.bitchute.com/video/0Ivohc1810rV/
+--- 14899353
+>>14899330
+>>14899342
+It is kinda shameful so I see why you’re so opposed to it but it’s the truth. You read about low birth rates across europe but see white women with mixed kids all the time. In schools the kids are all either non white (immigrant mothers pumping kids out like they do back home) or mixed with a white mother. Am I supposed to not notice this?
+--- 14899361
+>>14899353
+Lol Europe will sink into the Third World. Can't wait to observe the social dysfunction. Women deserve to live in a shithole multicultural country for not having sex with me
+--- 14899376
+>>14899361
+I don’t think this is true. I think most whites guys are OK with it. Whenever it comes to the euros/World Cup they cheer on either fully black or mixed (white mother always) players and see them as no different to the white players. There was a scandal with a mixed player in the UK who beat his white gf and her own white father was encouraging her to not report him and to get back with the abusive mixed guy.
+--- 14899387
+>>14899353
+No it's not that you're not supposed to notice shit, it's that i don't notice the same thing.
+
+But i also noted where do you want to go with this discussion with muh cope and seethe, so i'd like to ask why those white women you see with mixed kids are so common where you live.
+--- 14899406
+>>14899376
+>I think most whites guys are OK with it.
+Nah
+https://t.me/racerealismchannel/73
+--- 14899409
+>>14899328
+I'm talking about niggers in Europe and the US you dumb fuck
+--- 14899410
+>>14899376
+>There was a scandal with a mixed player in the UK who beat his white gf and her own white father was encouraging her to not report him and to get back with the abusive mixed guy
+This is just standard white people cuckoldry. See also the case of Mollie Tibbetts
+--- 14899423
+>>14899410
+Or because, you know, money.
+--- 14899430
+>>14899387
+I don’t know why they’re so common, I have only lived in big cities though but when I visit towns in the countryside I notice the odd mixed kid and wonder where they came from and what they’re doing in a 100% white area. I have lived in Sweden, England, Norway and France and noticed the same thing in all of these countries. It is not limited to Swedish/English/Norwegian/french women because in England in particular I’d say many of these mixed have mothers from Eastern European countries. These women can barely speak English but have mixed kids. It’s strange.
+>>14899406
+These white men are a minority though. The majority get on their knees before football games and have no issue with interracial couples
+--- 14899436
+>>14899409
+Are you trying to say niggers in Europe abort their kids more than whites in Europe like they do in the US? Because that is not true
+--- 14899443
+>>14898901
+Say the bot (you)
+--- 14899444
+>>14899430
+>These white men are a minority though. The majority get on their knees before football games and have no issue with interracial couples
+How the hell would you know?
+If we're going by hunches, I have a feeling most people deep down find racemixing repulsive and creepy, but they pretend otherwise because saying it out loud would be a social death sentence
+--- 14899456
+>>14899430
+well if it's true it is interesting, because i'm southern european and i don't see the same phenomena even amongst the whitest phenotypes here, what the fuck are nords even doing?
+--- 14899464
+>>14899444
+If that was true then there would be a lot less interracial relationships. They could simply tell their kids to not bring home non white partners or they would kick them out/cut them off. Instead I see old white people chasing after their mixed grandkids in the store. They could stop supporting musicians/sports stars who aren’t white but only date white ladies instead i see rap concerts full of white kids and whites commenting heart eyes under black players posts with their white gf’s. Baffling.
+--- 14899474
+>>14899456
+During my brief visits to southern Europe, I saw interracial couples but only ever black woman/white man, never the other way around. There weren’t many black man around though unlike other European countries, just mainly black women. Oh and the odd white girl/nafri couple
+--- 14899499
+>>14899464
+Interracial relationships are actually quite rare, and rarely result in kids. The type I see most often on the street is older white woman + younger black guy
+--- 14899501
+>>14898870
+You can be right wing for economic reasons and also just hating woke culture.
+--- 14899508
+>>14899474
+ok i can confirm this as i was in the same highschool class with a mulatto guy with a native father, still i suppose this thing is not that common i see both races minding their own kind mainly
+--- 14899548
+>>14899436
+in the US in absolute numbers in Europe in relative numbers, yes
+--- 14899573
+>>14899499
+>rarely result in kids.
+Yet Europe is full of mixed kids. Nearly every European team (excluding Eastern European countries whose mixed players never play for them) have 1-2 mixed players on their national teams either playing or as a backup. What I would see most often was: 
+England: black guy/white woman 
+Sweden: nafri/white woman or asian woman/white man or black guy/white woman 
+France: black guy/white woman or nafri man/white woman or black man/nafri woman or black woman/white man (prevalent in the south of france)
+Norway: same as sweden but with more muslim woman (of all races)/white man couples 
+>>14899548
+Maybe this is true in the US but in Europe I doubt it. I would say 55% of blacks here are muslim and therefore stay away from abortions. I do believe mixed women have a high abortion rate though
+--- 14899582
+>>14899573
+For Europe it's impossible to say as there are no statistics on race and abortion. I invite you to spend some time in an abortion clinic in Europe and look at the kind of people that go there. Might change your mind
+--- 14899593
+>>14898944
+Christ was a blond Aryan?
+--- 14899610
+>>14899573
+Alright, the problem is football teams are not the population. i'd like to see statistics even if i think racemixing in europe is not rare.
+--- 14899618
+for some reason now i want to go outside and classify every couple i see and their kids
+--- 14899680
+>>14898852 (OP)
+>ight-wing atheists will often say abortion is "eugenic". Is there any actual proof of this?
+it can certainly be a tool for eugenics, but not if its done voluntarily. Which none of them are brave enough to suggest. So much for Nietzche!
+
+>>14898879
+Nope, really dumb people have the kid anyway, because they can't be arsed to get an abortion.
+--- 14899728
+>>14899593
+Pretty sure that's supposed to be some sort of native from Britain hence the woad
+--- 14900898
+>>14899618
+>classify
+?
+--- 14901061
+>>14898852 (OP)
+According to Steve Sailer abortion is dysgenic 
+https://twitter.com/WesleyHoratio/status/1647360596105363457
+--- 14902222
+>>14899423
+No, it's psychological
+--- 14902243
+>>14898852 (OP)
+Iceland nearly eliminating Down’s syndrome babies is one example
+--- 14902339
+>>14899301
+Man has never talked to a woman in his life
+--- 14902377
+>>14898936
+There was an episode of Boston legal where they use 1350 as a reason to keep Woe v wade
+--- 14902643
+>>14899680
+>not if its done voluntarily.
+How is it not eugenic if a dumb whore voluntarily aborts her offspring
+--- 14903010
+>>14898852 (OP)
+There are lots of studies of which women get abortions, they are usually poor and unmarried. Getting an abortion correlates with being single, poor, low education, low wage, past criminal behaviour, various anti-social proxies etc. The races with the highest degree of these traits (blacks) also most often get abortion, but the correlation remains after controlling for race. The pattern is the same in all countries there is data from. 
+
+The first result I could find om google scholar was this one. 
+https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=954145193072a92c715cd9d4fcc2013541e85972
+--- 14903077
+>>14898879
+This. Also unwanted pregnancies become unwanted problem children who become adult malcontents that commit crimes and become a burden on society. Plus it's mostly niggers who get abortions and that's basically the only thing keeping their population stable.
+--- 14903734
+>>14901061
+Deboonked
+--- 14903847
+>>14898870
+I'm a lifelong atheist and my political views would be described as extreme far right by any normalfag.
+>>14898852 (OP)
+>abort low quality babbies
+>fraction of low quality humans in the next generation decreases
+You have to be acting stupid on purpose to not see it. There is no other way.
+
+The funny thing is, until ~2014 and the reddit incel exodus pretty much nobody on the far right had an issue with eugenic abortion. It's only after the new crop of societal rejects decided to "find god" in response to shitposts mocking atheist nerds that serious anti-abortion sentiments became a thing. On old /pol/ anybody going off about muh sanctity of life would've been laughed out of the room for falling for obvious hotbutton D&C
+--- 14904005
+>>14903847
+the right and the evangelical movement are married to each other, and are locked in a dysfunctional relationship that only persists because each side knows that losing vast swathes of the religious vote to pro-Israel, pro-immigration, and anti-gun movements would be devastating for their electoral prospects. Evangelicals are the paypigs of the right and that's why they have to throw them a bone on abortion from time to time even though it fucks them at the national level
+--- 14904111
+>>14903847
+The skull-fuckingly obvious solution is to make abortion illegal for white people, and mandatory for everyone else.
+--- 14904194
+>>14898879
+>who don't value anything sacred (such as chastity or human life)
+pretty funny though that the people who lament nobody taking human life seriously anymore also typically make these kind of posts 
+
+>>14898936
+>>14898944
+--- 14904312
+>>14904194
+niggers aren't human, and we never evolved to live side by side with them, which has proven to be an indefensible disaster

his/14899041.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,466 @@
+-----
+--- 14899041
+How different are Irishmen from Anglos? Ethnically and culturally speaking.
+--- 14899071
+>>14899041 (OP)
+They are more lucky, so don't play them in card game
+--- 14899076
+>>14899071
+Umm... source?!
+--- 14899085
+>>14899076
+Just watch an Irish person play an RPG on twitch, they always put stats in luck first
+--- 14899091
+>>14899041 (OP)
+They're extremely close, relatively speaking. Most English dna is from the pre Anglo-Saxon brythonic natives, who were as closely related to the Irish as you could get
+--- 14899102
+>>14899097
+All people came from Iran after the flood.
+--- 14899125
+>>14899102
+Didn't Noah's Ark land in/on Ararat?
+--- 14899127
+>>14899091
+No its not
+--- 14899135
+>>14899125
+yep
+--- 14899146
+>>14899135
+That not Iran THOUGH
+--- 14899162
+>>14899146
+ok, but close enough
+--- 14899175
+>>14899041 (OP)
+Henry Cavill is Irish
+--- 14899176
+>>14899102
+Retard.
+--- 14899179
+>>14899146
+--- 14899188
+>>14899176
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3pX2FIc8YQ [Embed]
+
+ok schizo
+--- 14899232
+>>14899188
+Ahh yes, the people of the Middle East, geniuses as they are, do not only build their houses out of mud but also their ships
+--- 14899242
+Can someone explain where the hate of the Irish on this board comes from? Is it coping shitskins or genuine british white people?
+--- 14899249
+>>14899242
+What would there be for shitskins to cope about? Ireland is run by a mulatto shitskin
+--- 14899259
+>>14899232
+So you think we came from apes?
+--- 14899260
+>>14899085
+>they always put stats in luck first
+I do this but I'm not Irish.
+--- 14899264
+>>14899249
+It's a group of white people for them to claim are subhuman and not truly white, thus making themselves feel better about their own situation.
+--- 14899267
+>>14899242
+It's a tiktok/reddit meme to pretend to be extremely racist against random white countries. Maybe it's because zoomers can't be racist like boomers used to be so they have to find ways to vent.
+--- 14899281
+>>14899264
+What situation? Shitskins can go and migrate to Ireland tomorrow and get citizenship within a year or so. Irish people are subhuman, that’s why they were colonized/barely speak their native language/had their country split in 2/starved instead of eating fish. They might as well be black
+--- 14899293
+>>14899259
+I do not consider the question on wether the humans descend from apes as relevant to the question on the descendance of humanity in itself because humans could just as well have descended from bunnies or from pigs, who are much similar to them, in some things more than apes. However, as a polygenesist, I think that the human species descend from at least three very distinct types, isolated from each other, unequal to each other.
+--- 14899298
+>>14899041 (OP)
+--- 14899306
+>>14899298
+lmao, they're also claiming that all Spaniards and Portuguese are Africans
+--- 14899307
+>>14899281
+Their situation of having brown skin that leads to an inferiority complex because of the widespread racism and aryanism here.
+What's your definition of subhuman? Because couldn't you call the English lower class subhuman?
+>starved instead of eating fish
+Allegedly they couldn't because the British wouldn't allow them to fish
+--- 14899314
+>>14899041 (OP)
+Now post a female with right's phenotype.
+--- 14899331
+>>14899306
+They are
+--- 14899338
+>>14899307
+Racism is not a big deal in Europe truthfully speaking. Anyone who says otherwise is either race baiting for money (grifting for tv appearances) or coping. Europeans are neutered and keep their racism to themselves most times. So there’s no ‘aryanism’ in Ireland. The English lower class are subhuman, I think white working class boys in England have the lowest GCSE pass rate even below blacks.
+--- 14899352
+>>14899331
+Nitpicking ugly Spaniards doesn't prove anything.
+I can also do this. Does this picture prove that all Swedes are Asiatics?
+--- 14899356
+>>14899352
+Swedes are the biggest faggots of Scandinavia and the amount of mixing they have done with half asian finns is disgusting so yes I agree with you here
+--- 14899369
+>>14899356
+>the amount of mixing they have done with half asian finns is disgusting so yes I agree with you here
+Source?!
+--- 14899373
+>>14899352
+>swarthy moor sees a blond person and thinks they're asiatic
+--- 14899380
+>>14899373
+>Eye canthal tilt
+>Head breadth
+>Nose shape and width
+Come on now
+--- 14899383
+>>14899281
+>Shitskins can go and migrate to Ireland tomorrow and get citizenship within a year or so
+England is way worse as far as immigration is concerned, and has been so for a lot longer. The same is true of all western Europe. Does that not make them all more subhuman than the Irish?
+--- 14899386
+>>14899369
+Thank you for admitting Swedes are the biggest faggots. You only have to go there to see the hapa like mongrels for yourself
+--- 14899402
+>>14899386
+No but really I need a source 
+I don't think Swedes and Finns mixed much
+--- 14899404
+>>14899383
+It is easier to get Irish citizenship than British as a migrant. England does deportations, Ireland does not. Both countries are pathetic but at least England colonized the world, what has Ireland ever done?
+--- 14899413
+>>14899338
+That doesn't answer my original point. If the Irish are subhuman according to your definition then surely are also the British lower class.
+
+>>14899404
+Why does it need to do anything? Why does a nation need to justify it's existence if it isn't hurting anyone?
+--- 14899414
+>>14899402
+Fine
+Find out yourself
+Funny that you say that
+--- 14899418
+>>14899402
+Finns aren't even hapas anyway. They're Swedes that speak a chink language and they have a tiny bit of said chink people who gave them the language floating around in them. China Swedes ;^)
+--- 14899426
+>>14899418
+Yes they are
+Why would they speak a Finno-Ugric language if they aren't hapas
+--- 14899428
+Swedes and Spaniards are white but you probably are not
+--- 14899435
+>>14899380
+Swarthy moor doesn't even know what white people look like
+>>14899428
+>Spaniards are white
+no
+--- 14899441
+>>14899426
+They could have been at one time. I don't remember the history. Since then though they're obviously just Balt/Scandinavian people now. We know how much chink is in them, it's like what, 1-5% if that?
+--- 14899449
+>>14899426
+By that definition Hungaryans are also hapas.
+>>14899435
+>Swarthy moor doesn't even know what white people look like
+I'm white myself how can I not know how I look
+--- 14899459
+>>14899441
+50% at least
+Their population was an originally purely yellow people, barely mixed with whites and not at all with blacks.
+--- 14899466
+>I'm white myself how can I not know how I look
+--- 14899475
+>>14899449
+> By that definition Hungaryans are also hapas.
+Obviously they are although heavily aryanized so. Much like the Dravidians, they are it's northern counterpart.
+--- 14899486
+>>14899475
+>Hungarians are asiatic
+How far will you go with this?
+--- 14899488
+>>14899466
+This is me
+--- 14899493
+>>14899459
+>50% at least
+kek
+--- 14899496
+>>14899486
+There's no such thing as Asiatic. Asia is a continent. The Hungarians are the descendants of the White Huns, a heavily aryanized group of a tribe originally part of the yellow race.
+--- 14899500
+>>14899488
+You wouldn't pass even in France
+--- 14899502
+>>14899500
+I'm literally French
+--- 14899511
+>>14899496
+What percent are they of this race and how do you come to that conclusion?
+--- 14899516
+>>14899502
+>
+--- 14899523
+>>14899516
+Nordicists are so pathetic.
+--- 14899527
+>>14899511
+Because they speak an agglutinative language. Agglutinative languages are the property of the yellow race. Everywhere that a language has aggluninative elements to it, it's speakers broadly descend from the yellow race, although to varying proportions. All of Europe was once inhabitated exclusively by the yellow race but also the entirety of now Russia and Southern Siberia. The whites who inhabitated there came frequently into contact with them. Some integrated the yellow people into their societies while other whites, less fortunate than them, were forcefully put into the societies of the yellow people. Such is the story of the Huns.
+--- 14899534
+>>14899527
+>They are not white because the language they speak is agglutinative
+That's even more ridiculous than I was expecting, well done
+--- 14899545
+>>14899523
+You will never be French
+--- 14899550
+>>14899534
+Well, you say this but the very white languages have the ability of composing words into each other. Anywhere a language lacks this ability, the influence of another race has taken an exacerbating influence to the societal corpus, degradating the value of it's people to an ethnic value lower to that of a Germanic or of a Vedian.
+--- 14899560
+>>14899550
+I don't quite understand, agglutinative languages allow you to put all the morphemes at the end like suffixes. Do you mean white languages must be fusional?
+--- 14899563
+>>14899545
+Why are you so hateful?
+--- 14899566
+>>14899560
+Exactly. Fusional languages are of the white race, agglutinative languages of the yellow race, isolating languages of the black race.
+--- 14899571
+>>14899563
+>swarthoid sees a group of blonde people
+>calls it a hate crime
+--- 14899584
+>>14899545
+> Normands.jpg
+They look so British to me, maybe it's their clothes
+
+>>14899566
+Chinese used to be an isolating language and that's why its characters exist and are easily used for other languages. I'd personally consider such languages to be superior as they allow freer expression and can be learned more easily. What do you think of modern English? It's not very fusional anymore.
+--- 14899586
+>>14899571
+It is obvious that you are trolling. Good day.
+--- 14899594
+>>14899404
+>It is easier to get Irish citizenship than British as a migrant.
+what are you basing this on? The criteria are basically the same, not to mention the fact that the uk often makes it even easier for people from ex-colonies to immigrate
+>Ireland doesn't do deportations
+yes it does
+>at least England colonized the world, what has Ireland ever done?
+why is whether a country colonized people or not the standard for who is and isn't subhuman?
+--- 14899595
+>>14899586
+>Hehe he's just TROLLING haha He doesn't ACTUALLY think Spaniards are brown
+--- 14899600
+>>14899571
+kek
+--- 14899602
+>>14899488
+That's a Georgian-Slav mix though
+--- 14899605
+>>14899584
+> I'd personally consider such languages to be superior as they allow freer expression and can be learned more easily.
+Then why don't you speak an isolating language.
+> hat do you think of modern English? It's not very fusional anymore.
+Dewhitification.
+--- 14899621
+>>14899605
+Because English is my native language and I already speak it. I'm saying if I had to choose say another language to communicate in I'd choose one like that. Why do you think fusional languages are better?
+>Dewhitification.
+What do you think caused that?
+--- 14899623
+>>14899602
+Yes, I am from Georgia originally
+--- 14899632
+>>14899623
+>Georgian calling Swedes Asiatic
+Bahahaha
+--- 14899636
+>>14899516
+Is anyone able to tell me what Varg's definition of white (or nordic, or however he calls it) is? I've been wondering for a while but never cared to watch his videos.
+--- 14899640
+>>14899632
+We are 100% West Eurasian
+--- 14899645
+>>14899621
+> Why do you think fusional languages are better?
+I don't.
+> What do you think caused that?
+The conquering whites did not have the ability of turning the locals to speak a white language or only halfway so. After the inevitable fusion of the elements that came afterwards, there was no pure whites left who could have done such a task, and English became what it is now.
+--- 14899662
+>>14899640
+And 0% French
+>>14899636
+Anyone with light hair(blond, red, light brown),
+light eyes(Blue, green,), pale skin and a Caucasoid skull
+--- 14899663
+>>14899645
+I'm sorry for assuming you thought that
+>conquering whites
+>locals
+Who are these?
+--- 14899679
+>>14899663
+The locals are members of the yellow race, short in stature, slanted eyes, broad hips, not much facial hair. Then come Celts and other white people, heavily degenerated though because of contact with the yellow race. Then come the Romans, a white people but also heavily mixed with yellow and afterwards also with white people of a distinct type and inevitably black-ish. The top of the pyramid is taken by the Anglo-Saxons, an originally Aryan tribe, directly mixed with lesser members of the white race.
+--- 14899689
+>>14899679
+But who are these locals? What are they? Where did they live? The indigenous people of Britain are Celts.
+--- 14899704
+>>14899689
+Yes but before them, yellows inhabitated the land, the pit-fen, faunus, Fen and Fiona, fin, fin-landers, the pit-goma, pygmy people, the dwarfs and the nains, nanus.
+--- 14899705
+>>14899662
+So what is light brown hair? Is it dark blond or actually brown hair? Does the guy whose head is turned at the top centre >>14899545 have dark brown hair?
+I'm curious if he'd consider me white now I thought his definition was Scandinavian.
+--- 14899709
+>>14899636
+Varg uses the terms "nordic" and "european" interchangeably, as he believes all of europe was originally blonde nordic. He's actually a lot less exclusionary than he's made out to be, though. He's made a lot of posts defending northern/western europeans with dark hair/eyes as "still mostly european with some small non-european admixture", and he draws a distinction between them and swarthy southern europeans who he seems to think are a totally different thing.
+--- 14899715
+>>14899709
+Why do we still use the Anglo-American term like "white"?
+--- 14899719
+>>14899709
+>as he believes all of europe was originally blonde nordic.
+To him what's the appeal of that? I don't get why you'd want all white people to look the same when we're the most diverse of races.
+
+>>14899715
+Why not?
+--- 14899724
+>>14899705
+>So what is light brown hair
+--- 14899726
+>>14899715
+Probably because it works very well colloquially. It's easier for americans to say than something like "of european descent" and doesn't invite as much questioning.
+--- 14899734
+>>14899719
+>To him what's the appeal of that? I don't get why you'd want all white people to look the same when we're the most diverse of races.
+I don't think it's based on some "appeal", rather he genuinely believes that anything other than blond, blue eyed "nordic" is the result of non-european admixture (even red hair).
+--- 14899737
+>>14899724
+So I'm probably not white according to Varg. I'd like to say I'm not upset at this.
+
+>>14899726
+White is naturally associated with light and good things. I don't know why he'd be against that for any reason other than anti-American sentiment.
+--- 14899743
+>>14899734
+>non-european admixture
+What's wrong with that then?
+--- 14899760
+OP here, I never intended for this thread to become a race-bait. I am sorry to everyone.
+--- 14899769
+>>14899743
+I don't know exactly what varg's response to that would be but it shouldn't be hard to deduce from his general viewpoints. He clearly greatly values the nordic/european race, his people, who are perfectly adapted to their environment and with an ancestral culture and lineage that he holds as sacred (and he gets quite metaphysical about this), and clearly he thinks outside admixture is some kind of corruption of all that.
+--- 14899777
+>>14899760
+>I never intended for this thread to become a race-bait.
+then what's with the OP image?
+>I don't know why he'd be against that
+I don't think he is; he uses the term white a lot
+--- 14899791
+>>14899777
+>then what's with the OP image?
+It was supposed to be a lighthearted joke. I didn't know /his/ took this subject so seriously.
+--- 14899827
+>>14899516
+Varg is a White Hotep.
+--- 14900180
+>>14899306
+But... they are.
+--- 14900488
+>>14899743
+>>14899769
+He believes that Nordics can are the pure descendants of Neanderthals (who were all autistic), and he traces European Paganism back to the Neanderthal Bear Cult. Implication being that Nordic people have lived in Europe for 100,000+ years and are perfectly adapted to their environment, plus its the whole 'blood & soil' thing. Almost more importantly pertains to his belief that European Paganism was heavily centred around reincarnation which was transmitted either through genetic memory or some mystical spiritual shit (he makes no solid claim), both of which have a strong racial component.
+
+Basically he's a fucking retard, but it is amusing to see what schizophrenic stuff he comes out with
+--- 14900829
+anglish mutts have snubbed noses.
+--- 14900830
+>>14899352
+Yes.
+--- 14902140
+>>14900997
+>G. O'Rilla
+I'm dead
+--- 14902218
+>>14900997
+Pre-WW1 bantz were off the charts LOL
+--- 14902253
+>>14899041 (OP)
+Henri de Caville is french though
+--- 14902292
+>>14899041 (OP)
+Cavill isnt an anglo-germanic. He is a french-norman phenotype, IE the phenotype of the english ruling class since 1066
+--- 14902297
+>>14902292
+>celto-germanic
+>french-norman
+This is literally the same fucking thing.
+--- 14902309
+>>14899175
+He is very obviously Norman
+>>14899041 (OP)
+Isn't the obese bitch on the left Jewish?
+--- 14902335
+>>14902253
+>>14902292
+>>14902309
+Cope, he's of trve English stock
+--- 14902360
+>>14899041 (OP)
+Proof god has a sense of humor, he put the most successful race right next to the least successful one. Irish "history" consists of nothing more than being buck broken by different masters and getting mogged by Anglos repeatedly. 
+None of them even speak their own unintelligible language anymore, fenians coping about their inferiority has been degenerated to such a pathetic state that they celebrate when the queen dies peacefully in her sleep of natural causes.
+--- 14902422
+>>14902309
+He is literally of Irish descent
+>His Jersey-born mother, Marianne Dalgliesh, is of Scottish, English and Irish heritage
+>>14902292
+Normans don't look like that
+>>14899545
+--- 14902492
+>>14902360
+>he put the most successful race right next to the least successful one.
+I didn't know Ireland was next to Germany.
+--- 14902814
+>>14902360
+How do you define the success of a "race"?
+>Irish "history"
+The oldest building ever is in Ireland
+--- 14903172
+>>14902814
+>The oldest building ever is in Ireland
+I like Ireland but this is just a cope
+--- 14903185
+>>14899352
+That's a Finn
+--- 14903190
+>>14899331
+How exactly does this guy look African
+--- 14904058
+>>14899041 (OP)
+>How different are Irishmen from Anglos? Ethnically and culturally speaking.
+This is alpinid vs atlanto-med
+--- 14904066
+>>14899352
+>yep
+Isn't that a Finn? He is a savolaxid east baltid
+--- 14904071
+>>14899331
+>>14903190
+He doesn't that's a gracile mediterranean
+--- 14904079
+>>14899249
+>What would there be for shitskins to cope about?
+A hell of a lot of things, shitskins cannot exist without coping
+--- 14904102
+>>14902292
+>french
+>norman
+lol, french ruling castes are flemish/dutch since the merovingian period, let alone normans
+regular french are potato headed goblinos descended from gaulish slaves
+--- 14904720
+>>14899369
+lol is that the chess guy?
+--- 14904880
+>>14899041 (OP)
+This diagram was from Punch magazine, a humorous publication, it bears no relation whatsoever to anthropology
+--- 14904889
+>>14904880
+YOU DON'T SAY?!
+--- 14904903
+>>14904889
+You may know this, but many people such as >>14899298, take it seriously

his/14899899.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,102 @@
+-----
+--- 14899899
+Retard here. Why is Trotsky so hated my marxist-leninists?
+--- 14899912
+>>14899899 (OP)
+He was an ugly goat faced little jew with an inhumane ideology, I’m glad he died an excruciatingly painful death.
+--- 14899916
+>>14899912
+Ice pick to the brain doesn't actually sound very painful.
+--- 14900309
+>>14899899 (OP)
+Because Daddy Stalin said so.
+--- 14900369
+>>14899912
+>with an inhumane ideology
+True, but that's rich coming from a fucking Nazi lmao
+--- 14900593
+>>14899916
+It was a pickaxe and he lingered for a while
+
+>>14900369
+I’m not a Nazi
+
+I’m a fascist
+--- 14900631
+>>14899899 (OP)
+--- 14900690
+>>14899899 (OP)
+Two main reasons:
+1. Stalin is arguably the single most important historical leader (not theorist) for Marxist-Leninists, and Trotsky was his main political adversary.
+2. Trotskyists post-Trotsky are by and large hostile to all socialist countries; Trotsky thought the USSR was a "degenerated worker's state," i.e. not perfect but still better than capitalist society. On the other hand, most modern Trotskyists believe the USSR stopped being socialist as soon as Stalin took over, and therefore also that all nominally Marxist states are actually frauds masquerading as socialist countries. This idea didn't come from Trotsky himself, but it gets projected onto him by Marxist-Leninists.
+--- 14900762
+Trotsky was a real communist and wanted perpetual revolution and a weak government, this is too dangerous an ideology so he was offed
+--- 14900886
+>>14899899 (OP)
+depends on who you ask, theres different takes on him by tons of them
+when it comes to commie figures who were influencial just assume there is not and has not been any real conscensus on em
+--- 14900945
+>>14899899 (OP)
+Cult around daddy Stalin.
+--- 14900975
+>>14899899 (OP)
+By Stalinists, not by marxist-leninists.
+--- 14901145
+>>14900975
+"Marxist-Leninists" is the term Stalinists use for themselves. Trotskyists call themselves Marxists and Leninists, but not Marxist-Leninists.
+--- 14901345
+>>14899916
+He got to watch his genetic lineage extinguished before he passed.
+--- 14901394
+>>14899899 (OP)
+>ok at taking Tsarist officer's families hostage and forcing them to fight for you in exchange for the lives of the families, win the civil war this way
+>lose out on the post-Lenin power struggle because you're universally hated by everybody
+>get to go into exile instead of getting shot in an NKVD basement
+>spend entire time in exile being a whiny bitch, complaining about how policies he had supported were being implemented by Stalin but not as good as he would have implemented them
+It's worth remembering that Khruschev never tried even a little bit to rehabilitate Trotsky despite his massive effort of de-Stalinization, so contrary to popular belief it's not just Stalinists who want nothing to do with Trotsky
+--- 14901399
+>>14901357
+No, that drawing was actually a storyboard for Death Wish 6.
+--- 14902414
+>>14899899 (OP)
+Jews
+--- 14902689
+>>14900631
+Why did you remove the star of david pendant
+--- 14902699
+>>14899899 (OP)
+
+Marxist leninists love the USSR
+
+Trotsky hated the USSR (For the most part) because "It wasn't real communism"
+
+Therefore MLs hate Trotsky, considering him a traitor
+--- 14902725
+>>14899899 (OP)
+
+He was a valuable asset for the construction and foundation of the USSR, but he betrayed the Soviet government for the sake of his own ego
+--- 14902805
+>>14899899 (OP)
+As I understand it, Maoism was basically sanitized Trockyism. He hated Stalin for not being communist *enough*.
+--- 14902986
+>>14899912
+>an inhumane ideology
+So why do *other* communists hate him?
+--- 14903115
+>>14900975
+Weil-chan spat in his face in her apartment
+--- 14903365
+>>14899899 (OP)
+Every dead kike is a blessing.
+--- 14903385
+>>14900975
+To be more precise than the first poster, "Marxism-Leninism" is the official name of Stalin's ideology as coined by himself. Opponents of Stalin reject the term.
+--- 14903431
+>>14899899 (OP)
+Trotsky did nothing wrong albeit
+--- 14903442
+Marxist-Leninists pretty much only hate him cause he hated Stalin. The differences between Marxism-Leninism and Trotskyism is pretty much just socialism in one country vs internationalism
+--- 14904764
+>>14903442
+Also LGBT and lack of conservatism.
+Trotsky is literal globohomo.

his/14899923.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,369 @@
+-----
+--- 14899923
+As you all know apartheid fell, and blacks came into power. They took advantage of the system and just switched roles. Now the blacks are enjoying a wealthy, western style life in the society that whites build, while the whites live in slums and are poor af
+
+One idea that a lot of radicals had back in the day (and a lot still advocate for it) is the idea of a volksstaat. Basically having this small part of the country you see in pic related become an independent nation from the rest of south africa. The whites would then move there and live in peace while the blacks have the complete rest of south africa for themselves.
+
+Could this have been achieved? This would have been ideal.
+--- 14899930
+>>14899923 (OP)
+>Now the blacks are enjoying a wealthy, western style life in the society that whites build, while the whites live in slums and are poor af
+But that didn't happen at all
+--- 14899949
+>>14899923 (OP)
+>The whites would then move there and live in peace while the blacks have the complete rest of south africa for themselves
+So they lost after getting years of graft and power and now want to move to another part of SA and seize land from the Coloureds who live there? Land that isnt exactly that bountiful?
+--- 14899951
+>>14899923 (OP)
+No. Apartheid was their only viable shot at anything like that and we all know how that ended up.
+--- 14899959
+only way it was feasibly possible is with massive population transfers, the will of the black population to accept this, and the will of the international community to accept this, none of these were feasibly possible
+--- 14900157
+There's no water there. They would have to depend on blacks.
+--- 14900330
+>>14899923 (OP)
+Please stop trying to take parts of South Africa. Just go home already.
+--- 14900346
+>>14900157
+Pretty sure Orania is right next to a river and they do way better than 90% of that shithole.
+--- 14900367
+>>14899923 (OP)
+They didn't want separation per se, but domination. Specifically the Afrikaners I mean, they wanted to be the ruling class and have black servants and such, to be a managerial elite free from manual labor. They realize now I think that that was a bad idea, but I don't blame them because manual labor sucks. The idea behind Orania for example is the opposite of that, where they do all the shitty jobs themselves and are self-reliant.
+--- 14900371
+>>14899951
+yeah international pressure forced them out because africans could not do anything on their own.
+--- 14900380
+>>14899923 (OP)
+why are white people still living in that shithole? are you all waiting to get killed or something?
+--- 14900381
+>>14900371
+>africans could not do anything on their own.
+South Africa was on the edge of civil war lmso.
+--- 14900389
+>>14900346
+Orania was founded on seized land and gets by by making poor whites do the shitty labour for shit pay under vague promises.
+--- 14900390
+>>14900380
+Most whites in SA have guns and are willing to use them in self defense
+--- 14900399
+>>14900390
+Yeah, and some blacks there have somewhat-bladed objects and are willing to use them offensively.
+--- 14900404
+>>14900390
+>a few geriatric farmers with old hunting rifles against the might of the government with the monopoly of force
+lmao good luck with that when the Malema guy gets elected
+--- 14900407
+The vast majority of South Africa's economy today is centred around Johannesburg and the Vaal Triangle, not the Cape. Ditto for the white population. So no it wouldn't have been ideal and there's a reason it didn't happen.
+
+Maybe if you go back in a time machine and convince the Voortrekkers to go home this would/could have happened.
+--- 14900432
+>>14900389
+>Orania was founded on seized land
+No. It was founded on desolate land that was already privately owned. 
+>by making poor whites do the shitty labour for shit pay under vague promises.
+More like normal Whites, really they're Afrikaners - not "whites", who came there of their own free will to find sanctuary from the rest of the shitty country. They have a better quality of life there than they would elsewhere.
+>>14900380
+Those that have left or wanted to have done so. The rest stay because they have no choice or feel convicted about giving up the land their ancestors fought for. It's called being a man. No point in running anyway since it'll soon be the same or similar in most places.
+--- 14900444
+>>14900404
+The government there can't even keep the lights on or stop people from looting. No need to be afraid of them.
+--- 14900452
+>>14900432
+>Those that have left or wanted to have done so
+Those that had the ability to have already left I mean. The rest either can't or don't want to.
+--- 14900464
+>>14900380
+90% of the murder in South Africa is black-on-black and happening in places you'd never be as a white person. Sure, whites can be victims of crime, but the whole reason stories about a heckin innocent whitegirlerino getting her body or head BLACKED ends up a big News24 headline is because it's actually not the norm.
+
+The vast, vast majority of murders in South Africa have always been retarded township brutality bullshit and it barely gets reported because it's not news to anyone.
+
+Seriously if you aren't a poorfag and live somewhere remotely middle class your lifetime chance of shit happening to you is pretty small. And even then when it does it's mostly because they did something predictable that put them at risk (being the Boer farmer meme, living in one of those shitty old neighbourhoods that's half-Coloured, being a libtard/foreigner who does dumb shit like "hanging out" in a township because you have black friends/are dating a black, etc.).
+--- 14900487
+>>14900432
+>It was founded on desolate land that was already privately owned.
+Nope. Coloureds and blacks were living on it after the government abandoned an infrastructure project. It was carried out by the future residents of Orania, with the assistance of beatings, pistol whippings and dogs.
+--- 14900489
+>>14900487
+So basically the founders of Orania engaged in mass scale eviction of 500 people.
+--- 14900497
+>>14900432
+A lot of the Afrikaners working in Oeania are poor lol. The reason they moved was for employment even under sketchy conditions or no guarantees
+--- 14900513
+>>14900487
+Wouldn't care even if true, but source?
+>>14900497
+Cope. They're there because it's safer and they can be with their own people.
+--- 14900526
+Orania has a population of 3,000 people. It's a curiosity, but not really that important in the grand scheme of things.
+
+I suppose people pay attention to it, because it's seen as a test of Section 235.
+--- 14900683
+The 1980s status quo was actually more realistic and stable than either the volkstaat meme or what they have now.
+
+Botha should have just told the ANC to fuck off and gradually moderated the government's policies without ever conceding to majority rule. The libs in the West and the Third World and China would have hated it, but what's new?
+
+Instead the NP let themselves get barrelled over, and were consigned to the dustbin of history as a result.
+--- 14900685
+>>14900489
+>>14900497
+>>14900513
+>>14900526
+so are White people allowed to have anything or should they just default to genociding the powerless low IQ tribals trying to genocide them?
+--- 14900718
+The problems white people face are global. We live in a western, interconnected world, we share a cultural consciousness. Even if that would have worked by now it would have long been subverted, accepted mass immigration and citizenship to non-whites. Nothing would have worked to prevent that. And nothing is going to change fundamentally, until the Neoliberal Western World reforms or makes room for something else. But reform is in the hand of the Elite and they don‘t seem to care about reforming the West to accept racial reality.
+--- 14900723
+>>14900685
+>low IQ tribals trying to genocide them
+
+Source? Sandile forgetting your side order of wings or cheezybread last time you ordered Debonairs is actually not actually the precursor to a plot to push the white man into the sea, really. He just has a long commute to work and was a bit tired. I'm sure he will remember next time.
+--- 14900749
+>>14900723
+what?
+I am just asking if other races are openly declaring war or if they will resort to the passive aggressive feminine crybully tactics.
+I mean its fine if you want to act like african matriarchists, but dont pretend to be the warrior race while you hide behind women and "historical """"""injustice""""""""
+Step up and go to war properly, maybe you wont job and go down at a rate of 100:1 THIS time.
+--- 14900790
+>>14900749
+Who says anyone is "going to war"? This is all in your head.
+--- 14900820
+>>14900389
+>poor whites
+Providing jobs for whites is the entire point idiot. The country has affirmative action for the majority of the population so it is difficult for poor whites to find employment.
+>seized land
+If it makes you fucking happy they could in fac restart from the beginning and set up once more in land that you do not consider to be "seized" unless of course you consider all the land to be seized (this is probably the case for your world view). They have done so several times. It is called the Great Trek
+--- 14900841
+>>14900790
+so you are fine with White people having power in countries they historically had power in?
+--- 14900856
+>>14900407
+>Maybe if you go back in a time machine and convince the Voortrekkers to go home this would/could have happened.
+If the Voortrekers had gone somewhere else then the cities would have be built somewhere else and everyone would have the exact same set of problems, just somewhere else. It isn't like the Voortrekers just headed out and stubbled upon a pre-existing city called Johannesburg.
+
+The point is more than the since the Voortrekers had gone out and set up a new country multiple times in the past that they could continue to do so in the under populated territory. As in setting out and founding new cities is sort of a cultural practice for them so even if there was no reason to do it there might still be a yearning to do it just because. The reasons are ultimately just secondary reasons intended to convince people among them you might be more reluctant.
+--- 14900858
+>>14900380
+87% of whites in South Africa get murdered by other whites, dumbfuck
+
+That’s massively skewed for our small population size
+--- 14900873
+>>14900487
+Hey fuckhead. Would you allow them to head out a found a completely new settlement that you personally have surveyed to make sure nobody is currently living on it, or are you just complaining because you are opposed to the concept of them having any settlement to themselves at all?
+--- 14900878
+>>14900856
+No what I meant is that if Trekkers didn't happen and the whites stayed concentrated around the Cape like in the 17th and early 18th centuries, true white separatism would be a great deal easier and more feasible. But they didn't, so it's not.
+--- 14900910
+>>14900878
+What percentage of people participated in the great trek? I highly doubt they staying in the cape would have seriously impacted the total population of the colony considering that the British were migrating in anyway. Anyone who left was likely replaced by a British settler quite rapidly.
+--- 14900913
+>>14900513
+Just go to the wikipedia page on Orania and skim through it to realize he's an idiot. 
+The property was sold by the state and the squatters who were still living there were relocated and given new houses in another location.
+--- 14900920
+>>14900910
+Well yeah, the Boers didn't like their Anglo overlords which is why they left, after all. And I suppose you have a point in that if the Brits who settled in places like Durban and Johnnesburg had all landed and stayed in Cape Town instead, the whole province would have ended up completely dominated by them and the Afrikaner/Afrikaans culture there would have been much diminished.
+--- 14900943
+>>14900910
+>What percentage of people participated in the great trek?
+
+Apparently, they were around a fifth of Cape Colony's total population.
+--- 14901524
+>>14900367
+>they wanted to be the ruling class and have black servants and such
+Multiple Afrikaner leaders were literally murdered by their servants/assistants. How many still haven't weaned themselves off of black labor is insane.
+--- 14901535
+>>14901524
+Many wine vinyards still have archaic conditions where they make workers relieve themselves in the fields and have workers live in shoddy sheds. Fucked part is that FairTrade certification doesn't do shit because the owners just put up temporary toilets and measures just to pass the certs and get the FT sticker. 
+
+It's like being able to just take slight hit on your margins just to add functioning toliets is too much fora lot of these guys.
+--- 14901537
+>>14900790
+literally all of your posts are you trying to delegitimize orania, presumably as a justification to break it up.
+--- 14901539
+>>14900913
+>the squatters who were still living there were relocated and given new houses in another location
+They were forced off their land through violence nor did they have a choice. On top of that the government didn't even ask the squatters" about it and many Oranians are still aggressive even otuside of Orania's borders.
+--- 14901543
+>>14900841
+No I want to stop all white males from having any power or any children
+--- 14901546
+>>14900858
+source?
+--- 14901548
+>>14900873
+>are you just complaining because you are opposed to the concept of them having any settlement to themselves at all?
+Stop being so hysterical. They seized land from people while benefiting from a state that completely favoured Afrikaners.
+--- 14901554
+They're not white they're dutch. The Netherlands is always open for immigration applications btw. They can always go back.
+--- 14901560
+>>14901546
+Not that guy, but it really is the case that on the whole, intra-racial crime is quite rare in South Africa. Sure the odd white person does fall victim to a carjacking or home invasion, but because the vast majority follow Ben Garrison's timeless advice regarding when and when not to relax and also never visit townships, coloured slums and other places where stabbings and shootings tend to happen, they tend not to be the victims of crime at the hands of blacks and coloureds.
+--- 14901563
+>>14901554
+Not sunny enough for them, I suspect.
+--- 14901567
+>>14901548
+You didn't answer the question. Would you support a new settlement that was created from the ground up from land the post-apartheid government grants them permission to relocate to?
+--- 14901575
+>>14900464
+>being a libtard/foreigner who does dumb shit like "hanging out" in a township because you have black friends/are dating a black
+
+Some of the stories you read about are unbelievable. I remember on IOL I read about this guy, think he was from the UK who ended up dead because he thought walking around in Soweto at like 2 o' clock in the morning was a good idea. Other classic foreigner Darwin Award moments include getting off the Gautrain at Marlboro Station and having a wander around in Alex because why not, right?
+--- 14901584
+>>14901554
+Afrikaners and Dutch people are surprisingly indifferent towards one another for the most part Anon.
+--- 14901596
+>>14901584
+Well they are like Americans and British people, or Quebec Canadians and French People. Basically different groups at this point.
+--- 14901602
+>>14901567
+Does it matter if he would or not?
+--- 14901615
+>>14901596
+nta but here in the US, rich white liberals FUCKING HATE conservative whites from the South. I've literally seen bumperstickers in Colorado, driven by cute blonde women who go to college so you know they're smart, reading "NUKE THE SOUTH".
+LOL how edgy. Nah... she means it.
+Now do Amsterdam and imagine how those rich white women there feel about apartheid.
+
+Boers are on their own. They have no friends in Holland. Maybe in the Flemish parts of Belgium . . .
+--- 14901618
+>>14901563
+Yeah the weather is indeed shit but europe is first world.
+--- 14901622
+>>14901615
+Conservative parties have been getting billions of votes in Holland. Plus they gave out free visas to the Ukrainians. 
+They'd also give them to the Boers for sure. Europe became extremely white friendly after 2015
+--- 14901639
+>>14900404
+Niggers are too incompetent to organize an effective state. Half of the niggers in the military are obese or have aids.
+--- 14901645
+>>14900404
+Won't happen. Steenhuisen unironically has a better shot at the presidency than Malema, although the most likely outcome is either an ANC-DA coalition or an ANC-EFF coalition where the ANC stays the most powerful party and keeps the presidency as well.
+--- 14901653
+>>14901645
+Does he speak dutch
+--- 14901658
+>>14901645
+>an ANC-EFF coalition
+zimbabwe tier SA coming up
+--- 14901663
+>>14901658
+Thing is, a lot of people expected the ANC themselves to be pretty radical when they came to power in 1994, but that didn't happen. The EFF will likely prove to be the same, all bark and no bite, especially since they will be the junior partner in any conceivable coalition.
+--- 14901664
+>>14901663
+Mandela at least had enough tact not to sing kill de boer.
+I see it being typical ANC shitfuckery only with a token extremely unpopular policy they blame on the EFF, killing them as an electable force.
+--- 14901665
+>>14901560
+thats not a source
+--- 14901669
+>>14901560
+It's called inter-racial. Intra-racial means within the race. Inter-racial means between the races.
+--- 14901671
+>>14901663
+This is sort of a cope though, the ANC being corrupt and incompetent has been enough to fuck things up a great deal, even when they are or think they are trying to not kill the proverbial golden goose.
+--- 14901680
+>>14901622
+>Europe became extremely white friendly after 2015
+lmao
+--- 14901692
+DAAR'S 'N LAND AAN SUIDERKANT, KOM DEEL IN SY VERHALE
+UIT DIE OOSTE, WESTE, NOORDE, SUIDE, TOEGEBRING
+
+DIS 'N LAND MET WILDE HAND WAT UITREIK TELKEMALE
+OM DIE HOOP VAN MORE TE BESING
+DIS 'N LAND VAN KLEURE EN KLANK
+DIS 'N LAND VAN OORVLOED EN DANK
+DIS 'N LAND WAAR ALMAL NA STREWE
+--- 14901750
+>>14901567
+Why does it matter? The core part is that those founders in Orania purchased their land through the use of their ties to the Apartheid state and engaged in some of the largest forced land evictions in South Africa.
+--- 14901757
+>>14901750
+>largest forced eviction
+if that was the largest eviction then apartheid wasn't nearly as oppressive as people say it was
+--- 14901760
+i like this song
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHs3vD_Sn8M [Embed]
+--- 14901764
+>>14901757
+Lol you can't even read three words. get the fuck out
+--- 14901768
+>>14901764
+Do you know how often people got evicted for squatting in South Africa? Trying to stop people from squatting was the entire point behind apartheid but the eventually gave up because it was too much effort to constantly evict people.
+--- 14901769
+>>14901768
+Blatant revisionism.
+--- 14901776
+>>14901769
+You are literally the one arguing that Apartheid was less oppressive than it actually was.
+--- 14901795
+>>14901776
+>You are literally the one arguing that Apartheid was less oppressive
+How do you even get that from my post? apartheid engaged in mass land evictions allover SA in rural and urban areas on top of the creation of the Bantustans
+--- 14901848
+>>14901795
+Hence>>14901757
+You say this tiny removal of squatters was "the largest forced land eviction in South Africa"
+--- 14901854
+>>14899923 (OP)
+Take this shit to /pol/ you fucking faggot
+--- 14901875
+>>14900685
+Access to Black people is not a human right.
+--- 14901880
+>>14901848
+>engaged in some of the 
+Key word some of the you retarded faggot.
+--- 14901922
+>>14901880
+This was not remotely some of the largest evictions
+--- 14901944
+>>14901875
+Access to black queens should be. I'm deprived.
+--- 14901954
+>>14901922
+500 people is pretty big.
+--- 14902529
+>>14899923 (OP)
+Maybe
+--- 14902604
+>>14901854
+Fuck off to reddit and give us the board back
+--- 14902908
+>>14900346
+>Pretty sure Orania is right next to a river and they do way better than 90% of that shithole.
+Orania is close to a big city and depend on the black town council to deliver basic services. The people in Orania also have day jobs in the city.
+--- 14902924
+>>14901875
+Black ''people'' =/= African resources
+They are too stupid to put in use or defend what they have and therefore don't deserve to have it just because its muh land mufugga
+--- 14902927
+>>14901584
+>Afrikaners and Dutch people are surprisingly indifferent towards one another for the most part Anon.
+Because the Afrikaaners were Dutch who were deemed too retarded to live in the Netherlands and were given a one way ticket to the southern most part of Africa.
+--- 14902949
+>>14899923 (OP)
+>Now the blacks are enjoying a wealthy, western style life in the society that whites build, while the whites live in slums and are poor af
+Nobody is stopping them from taking a boat trip to Europe like these guys. Maybe they just want to live in slums and have nothing to offer to white society in Europe.
+--- 14903018
+>>14902908
+You are thinking of Kleinfontein.
+--- 14903041
+>>14902949
+Imagine thinking any of the niggers that come here have anything to offer
+
+The truth is, that they don't want to give up the land their ancestors build. They aren't little pussies that run away
+--- 14903065
+>>14903041
+>Imagine thinking any of the niggers that come here have anything to offer
+Never said they did. 
+
+>The truth is, that they don't want to give up the land their ancestors build. They aren't little pussies that run away
+Then enjoy being white and living in a slum in Africa.
+--- 14903272
+>>14901664
+>Mandela at least had enough tact not to sing kill de boer.
+
+You think the white vote is important or something?
+--- 14903730
+>>14899923 (OP)
+Yes, the English should have left the Boers alone.

his/14900554.txt

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+-----
+--- 14900554
+You live on stolen ground
+--- 14900562
+>>14900554 (OP)
+So does literally everyone else.
+--- 14900570
+>>14900554 (OP)
+Since when did conquest become synonymous with stealing?
+--- 14900573
+>>14900554 (OP)
+I hate this mormon faggot so much.
+--- 14900577
+>>14900554 (OP)
+And why are you telling us this?
+--- 14900581
+>>14900554 (OP)
+--- 14900587
+>>14900554 (OP)
+Finessed*
+>>14900562
+This.
+>>14900573
+Ex-Mormons always go way too hard in the other direction instead of just being normal.
+--- 14900589
+>>14900577
+to justify more special privileges and entitlements for minorities
+--- 14900591
+>>14900562
+Zionist talking point. Not particularly true.
+--- 14900599
+>>14900554 (OP)
+So do Poles
+--- 14900611
+>>14900591
+Exhibit #6000000 that anti-Zionism is just part of the broader brownoid third world resentment movement.
+--- 14900617
+>>14900611
+>Kike calls somebody brown 
+Lel
+--- 14900618
+>>14900554 (OP)
+I don't really care desu
+--- 14900629
+>>14900617
+>you must be a jew if you don't agree with my brownoid sympathizer movement
+Ashkenazi Jews aren't particularly brown either, but keep seething chud.
+--- 14900641
+>>14900629
+>WOZAHHHH A E-GIRL IN FATIGUES I MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL!!!
+Do gentiles really?
+--- 14900675
+>>14900581
+i hate that faggots cartoons so fucking much, he has the most asinine poltard opinions imaginable and expressed them in 15 year old girl instagram infographic tier cartoons
+--- 14900679
+>>14900629
+>>14900675
+Listen, we just dont want a foreign race running our country, simple as, no one else is vilified for having this desire.
+we arent anti-semitic
+we are anti colonialism.
+--- 14900681
+>>14900679
+Okay, you're an antisemite.
+--- 14900688
+>>14900675
+Stonetoss never misses.
+--- 14900689
+>>14900641
+>WOZAHHHH A SANDNIGGER WHO HATES JEWS I MUST SUPPORT PALESTINE
+I'm indifferent personally. I don't see a reason to dislike Israelis and neither should you, but I know it's futile to even argue it since your type is like a dog with a bone.
+--- 14900697
+>>14900675
+you hate it because it's true
+--- 14900699
+>>14900689
+>wanting to withdraw involvement means that you're going out of your way to help arabs
+Nice pilpul.
+--- 14900702
+Literally every single country and people on earth exist due to killing the previous inhabitants and “colonising” it
+
+Bizarre how this isn’t cared about outside of white colonists. When was the last time people had a go at the turks
+--- 14900704
+>>14900629
+--- 14900705
+>>14900702
+The usual argument is that near-total population replacement (i.e. what happened in the USA) isn't especially common, though it's not unheard of either. Turks are largely Turkified West Asians.
+--- 14900707
+>>14900699
+Why would you care about that? It's not like it affects anything. We should be blowing up Mexico instead, but we could easily do both at the same time so it's not an either or. With Afghanistan over and done with our involvement in the middle east is minimal anyway in comparison with say, Ukraine.
+--- 14900715
+>>14900704
+Cope. I wish they paid me.
+--- 14900716
+>>14900554 (OP)
+All you got to do is click on the three dots and tell youtube "don't show me dumb shit like this anymore"
+Then, once you're done with that, click on that little blue triangle to hide the thread.
+--- 14900719
+>>14900704
+The US army is using the same exact tactic now.
+>https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/57878/1/the-era-of-military-funded-e-girl-warfare-army-influencers-tiktok
+--- 14900721
+>>14900705
+I’d argue that 99% of natives dying from disease isn’t some intentional war considering most died before ever seeing a white man. And that there was no realistic alternative to save them from having weak immune systems
+--- 14900722
+>>14900707
+>Why would you care about that?
+I want all kikes exterminated to the last embryo, so Israel concerns me
+--- 14900732
+>>14900629
+--- 14900734
+>>14900707
+>"we" should be starting more wars
+No thanks.
+--- 14900738
+>>14900722
+Because you're a schizo poisoned by the internet. Many such cases. The majority of white people don't give a fuck and actively support their own replacement so it's silly to care about some lone libtard Jew saying it. If most white people wanted it to end then the Jews (irrelevant minority) would be powerless to stop them.
+--- 14900741
+>>14900734
+What's wrong with wars?
+--- 14900743
+>>14900738
+This wouldn't fly 100 years ago. What changed?
+--- 14900752
+>>14900741
+>What's wrong with wars?
+--- 14900759
+>>14900743
+Yes it would, and yes it did. It's been happening for a while. Most of the people in this photo are white. White people allowed it to happen and plenty of them wanted it to happen as well.
+--- 14900760
+>>14900738
+>I know im stealing your food goy, but just, grow more, if you were really that hungry youd just grow more food
+We are not going to be gaslit into continuing this parasite relationship.
+jews get out, please
+--- 14900761
+>>14900738
+>it's silly to care about some lone libtard Jew saying it.
+Lone?
+--- 14900767
+>>14900759
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Celler
+Every time
+--- 14900768
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187
+Every time
+--- 14900770
+>>14900715
+Imagine thinking instagram prostitutes will save you from the ovens bud. I'd seek Christ if I were you
+--- 14900771
+>>14900760
+Meds. Now.
+>>14900761
+Now show the millions upon millions of white people who support and say the same thing. You remember 2020 right?
+--- 14900774
+>>14900554 (OP)
+I dont like that glowie. Hes too young to be knowledgeable so he seems arrogant
+--- 14900775
+>>14900767
+And yet you missed the entire point which was LBJ signing it into law and all these other white people cheering it on. 
+>>14900770
+larp
+--- 14900777
+>>14900570
+>ince when did conquest become synonymous with stealing?
+It has always been but cognitive dissonance does a number
+--- 14900783
+>>14900775
+You better hope God takes mercy on you because Man won't. America in 20 years will be Hell for jews that don't have a gated community to hide behind
+--- 14900785
+>>14900768
+>majority of white californians vote to cut illegals off from receiving welfare checks
+>jewish judge strikes it down
+>years later jews pretend that white people wanted their neighborhoods to be flooded with immigrants
+--- 14900792
+>>14900783
+jews are like 1% of the population with high intermarriage rates, and if anything the reason they'd be attacked is because they'd be perceived as white - not because they're jews
+--- 14900797
+>>14900785
+>>majority of white californians vote to cut illegals off from receiving welfare checks
+yeah in 1994 - almost 30 fucking years ago maybe, not now
+--- 14900811
+>>14900797
+>Yes it would, and yes it did.
+30 years ago wasn't 100 years ago. Your lies don't demoralize me.
+--- 14900819
+>>14900811
+I could be wrong, maybe you touch grass all the time, but if you actually talk to most white people it would be very apparent they don't share your views. I'm stating the obvious here. If they did, things wouldn't be this way. "Silent majority" is a cope.
+--- 14900824
+>>14900792
+You just couldn't help yourselves could you? You really believed the mutts you invited to replace us and the niggers you intentionally rile up would take kindly to your god's chosen attitude. Not saying niggers need a reason to riot but Ole Kikey loves to exacerbate. There's been a sharp rise in coverage of race-related "issues" since Occupy Wall Street that could be no coincidence. Corporations subverted the left. Sent them on a wild goose chase to end white supremacy. Turns out "white supremacy" is simply a bottomless pit of "issues" to distract from jewish power. And if the jews are in power, they are responsible for the degradation and corruption plaguing America
+>Hey Shvartza I'm not white I'm jew-ACK!
+This is the future you chose.
+To the last jewish embryo.
+--- 14900828
+>>14900824
+It's ok, I won't even argue with you or show you my DNA. I'll be your villain. Yes I am a jew and I am replacing you cracka.
+--- 14900832
+>>14900562
+Racist
+--- 14900836
+>>14900771
+>Now show the millions upon millions of white people who support and say the same thing.
+I'd rather take note of enemy combatants subverting my country while looting it for Israel
+--- 14900862
+>>14900759
+This was not 100 years ago. The US has a history of racism and race riots
+--- 14901803
+>>14900715
+>be transparent about using prositutes to manipulate Americans to your cause
+>anyone who pays attention to a self-admitted psyop is mentally ill
+--- 14901810
+>>14900554 (OP)
+>You live on stolen ground
+Define stolen in the context of settling unused land that was ignored by scattered nomadic tribes that had no concept of property rights.
+--- 14902494
+>>14900554 (OP)
+The natives are content with development in the us now
+--- 14902504
+>>14900675
+This. I hope Stonetoss get raped by a fat black trans
+--- 14902535
+>>14900554 (OP)
+Part of my ancestry originated from America.
+--- 14902790
+>>14900702
+It's like when a dagger finds its way between the armor, it's a way to attack a soft spot for the west. Most other people either don't care, or are actively proud of it.
+--- 14902816
+>>14900554 (OP)
+>You stole our land
+>But nobody can "own" land, the land is for everyone
+>But it's our land and you stole it 
+Wish I could sneeze on a redskin rn
+--- 14902828
+>>14900554 (OP)
+Stolen from WHO?
+The Chumash? Algonquin? Pueblo? Cherokee? Mohawk? 
+North America was never a fully unified political entity before European contact. Each Native American tribe had its own language, culture, agenda, and were often at war with eachother.
+
+This narrarative is ironically even more racist, because it assets this idea that all Native Americans are "The Same" and all had the same exact goals and struggles. Its bullshit, and even your average druggie reservation dweller will tell you its bullshit.
+--- 14902847
+>>14900554 (OP)
+daily reminder this cuck is a liar and manipulator of retards
+https://ugetube.com/watch/why-haiti-is-poor-and-why-the-left-lie-about-it_D6YjeBFKXJqBuDp.html
+--- 14902852
+>>14900719
+I love lujan so much bros
+--- 14902856
+>>14902847
+>https://ugetube.com
+I regret clicking that link and finding myself on some ad infested shithole. Chuds will never make a proper alternative to Youtube
+--- 14903029
+>>14902856
+>I dont know what an ad blocker plug in is
+someone who uses the word "chud" has a double digit IQ. Imagine my shock. I have never seen a single ad on that website. I regret reading this post as it cost me 5 IQ points to do so
+--- 14903040
+Shouldn't have traded your land away for beads and rocks then
+--- 14903088
+>>14900732
+wow no wonder why they will be extinct within a few generations. Aren't askenazi jews just descendants of Ukrainian khazars who converted to judaism with no real connection to Jacob or the islaelites?
+--- 14903114
+>>14903088
+kek why is it always 6 million with them?
+--- 14903119
+>>14903114
+https://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6
+--- 14903772
+>>14900554 (OP)
+Good
+
+>>14900570
+Slave morality
+--- 14903780
+>>14900770
+Women are a bane on society
+--- 14903785
+>>14900862
+>US has a history of racism
+Citation needed
+--- 14903793
+>>14902816
+I swear logic is foreign to anyone who isn’t a minority or woman
+--- 14904150
+>>14903793
+Shalom
+--- 14904466
+>>14900554 (OP)
+Technically most of the land here was bought, not stolen.

his/14900632.txt

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+-----
+--- 14900632
+>during the German advance on Dunkirk in WW2 they dropped tons of these leaflets imploring British and French soldiers to surrender 
+>it worked and most did
+
+Why didn’t the Germans do their first “bombing raid” over britain by dropping millions of leaflets imploring British citizens to tell their MPs to negotiate a peace instead of fighting a pointless war?
+--- 14900682
+British were ready to surrender anyway, the problem was that Hitler was an Anglophile, while British hated Germans. Seelöwe plan never existed, Hitler cucked germs out of victory with Dunkirk. Civilian population doesn't care for anything as long as there is bread.
+--- 14900687
+>>14900634
+>fake map on the right
+--- 14900698
+>>14900687
+>fake
+
+Huh? It’s the real one. They were telling the French and British to surrender. Wouldn’t be wise to only print it in English 
+
+Left is from the Dunkirk movie I think
+--- 14900700
+>>14900682
+>the problem was that Hitler was an Anglophile
+If only fuhrer listen…
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-German_Naval_Agreement
+--- 14900712
+>>14900634
+It's interesting how the messages addressed to the French and to the British differ. 
+
+Comrades! 
+This is how things are! 
+In any case, the war is over for you! 
+Your chiefs will flee by plane! (?)
+Put down your arms!
+--- 14900714
+>>14900682
+Degrelle talks about it at around 30 minutes into the interview, German parachuters and pilots that somehow survived being shot down over Britain in 1940 were finding empty airstrips with not a single military post nearby, every single soldier they had was in Dunkirk at the time. It shows the retardation of German high staff command to not take the advantage instead they let them all go. 
+>>14900700
+>actually obeys the treaty throughout the war
+>neglects the kriegsmarine to sway the anglo
+>loses
+--- 14900720
+>>14900714
+>throughout the war
+>1935
+--- 14900729
+>>14900712
+I mean, they were right weren’t they?
+
+British could just retreat home
+
+French leadership had time to flee and set up a government in exile in Britain. Hence De Gaulle
+--- 14900731
+>>14900720
+He did obey it, Bismarck was shit. I really recommend watching Degrelle interview. It can show you Hitler in a new light - an Anglophile, retarded and gullible.
+--- 14900742
+10 posts in and no one gave OP any Yous
+based
+--- 14901134
+>>14900714
+Which interview
+--- 14901500
+>>14900682
+>British were ready to surrender anyway
+I dont think surrender means what you think it means. The British were never ready to surrender.
+
+>the problem was that Hitler was an Anglophile, while British hated Germans.
+The problems was that Hitler and his cult followers believe Britain should or must have care about some flattering words that were benefitial to Hitlers own ambitions.
+
+>Seelöwe plan never existed, 
+Because the very idea of invading Britain was an absurd comical fantasy.
+
+>Hitler cucked germs out of victory with Dunkirk.
+By failing to prevent the allies from escaping?
+
+>Civilian population doesn't care for anything as long as there is bread.
+Is that why public support increased during the blockade of food and city bombings?
+--- 14901666
+>>14900632 (OP)
+The Germans did drop leaflets over Britain. It didn't have a noticeable effect.
+--- 14901675
+>>14901500
+>By failing to prevent the allies from escaping?
+Manstein was in favor of attacking but Rommel, Hitler, and the majority of other commentors all agreed it would have not been worth while. As OP stated, many surrendered and the attempt to move through the lower land marshes would have delayed movements elsewhere.
+--- 14902030
+>>14900714
+Degrelle is a moron and even if the Germans had magically figured this out and successfully pulled off a huge airborne invasion with no prior training, it'd still have failed without an open naval supply line - which the Germans could have never created, let alone maintained
+
+a few thousand parachutists would have shocked Britain and made a few minor gains before running out of supplies and surrendering to the mobilized home guard
+--- 14902050
+>>14900632 (OP)
+and do you have anything to back up the claim most did
+--- 14902231
+>>14901666
+Post them.
+--- 14902239
+>>14902231
+
+Are you stupid? Of course they dropped leaflets. Everyone dropped leaflets. In the USSR you would be executed for merely picking one up
+--- 14902261
+>>14901675
+
+I'm quite certain that the anon I was quoting was going to sperg out how Hitler "allowed" the British to escape because he is Hitler and he only wanted peace and stability and he is perfect and he wanted to show his big heart for the British people.
+--- 14902299
+>>14902239
+Ok, but just post them. I believe you, I just wanna see them.
+--- 14902316
+>>14900634
+Why are the French called warmly comrades while the Brits were just coldly called "soldiers"?
+--- 14902326
+>>14900632 (OP)
+>it worked and most did
+
+The French only surrendered after the British had successfully ran away
+They held for a whole week to protect the escape, and during that week they lost 16,000 dead (as a comparison, America lost 50,000 dead in 20 years in Vietnam)
+--- 14902331
+>>14900682
+In the Battle of France, Germans captured 1.7 million troops and caused 300k casualties, only 300k escaped at Dunkirk.
+
+The Western Allies never fielded such numbers again. Seelöwe probably would've worked and should've been done even at the cost of losses.
+--- 14902332
+>>14902299
+
+In 1940 the leaflets dropped were basically a wall of text about how Britain and Germany shouldnt fight.
+Most British looked at it and went tldr.
+
+This isnt suprising, anyone who has read Mein Kampf knows how shit Hitler was at formulating himself. I've tried twice and still havent finished the book.
+
+
+The ones dropped at 1944 were more desperate and on point, telling the British that they're fighting and dying for the victory of marxism and the end of western civilization by the hands of Stalin.
+
+https://www.keymilitary.com/article/collecting-german-air-dropped-leaflets-britain
+--- 14902338
+>>14902332
+>Most British looked at it and went tldr.
+This is sad. Europe in 1900 was an intellectual powerhouse, it was already over in 1918 when all the good genes were wiped out.
+--- 14902373
+>>14902331
+
+>only 300k escaped at Dunkirk.
+And an additional 200k in other french cities.
+
+These men were also the best trained, most experienced and well equipt of the British forces.
+
+>The Western Allies never fielded such numbers again.
+The British 21st Army in France 1944 was over a million men strong.
+
+>Seelöwe probably would've worked and should've been done
+How was it going to work? Should the German soldiers swim? Are they going to be supplied by pidgeons?
+--- 14902397
+>>14902338
+
+Is reading a poorly written propaganda a testimony of good genes?
+--- 14902503
+>>14902373
+>The British 21st Army in France 1944 was over a million men strong.
+One million is less than two.
+
+>>14902373
+>How was it going to work? Should the German soldiers swim? Are they going to be supplied by pidgeons?
+Germany had air superiority in the initial stages, the Fallschirmjägers could capture British airports and docks and allow fast moving armour to be unloaded and Blitz across England. This would allow for very quick unloading of troops and supplies until the operational range of British aircraft was pushed so far North that they could only offer support as far as London at best. Even losing >75% of transport ships, Germany would still win and capture all the supplies in Empire's supplies in London.
+
+>Source: I did it in HoI3.
+--- 14902509
+>>14902397
+Mein Kampf was not poorly written, did you forget that you were reading a translation?
+--- 14902511
+at least you made it obvious you are trolling now
+--- 14902544
+>>14902511
+I'm pointing out he fact that your arm chair generaling is just as pointless as any. Unironically even HoI is a better argument it's at least based on a simulation model and not pure make belief of an untouchable Britain which was conquered by a handful of normans tranported with wooden boats.
+
+In modern warfare the Brits lost 4x the men in the Battle of Crete despite outnumbering the Axis. Of course island invasions can be done, I don't know where this myth comes from.
+--- 14902592
+>>14902503
+
+>Germany had air superiority in the initial stages,
+Except the Germans never had air superiority over the British channel and lost the Battle for Britain because the British out-produced them, were technologically superior, were tactically superior, could train more pilots and retain more experienced pilots, and scored more victories than the germans.'
+
+>the Fallschirmjägers could capture British airports and docks
+How are you going to fly over dozens of thousands of men without air superiority. How are you going to supply them without air superiority?
+A division can only hold out for about week before running out of ammunition. How are they going to stand up against the million man strong British home army?
+
+>capture British airports and docks and allow fast moving armour to be unloaded and Blitz across England.
+How are these armour getting across the channel? How do you maintain a supply line across the channel?
+
+>Even losing >75% of transport ships, Germany would still win
+What transport ships?
+--- 14902653
+>>14902332
+>telling the British that they're fighting and dying for the victory of marxism and the end of western civilization
+Where's the lie? It turned out to be true. The British soldiers would have been absolutely horrified if they could have seen the UK we know today.
+--- 14902694
+>>14902653
+
+Probably
+But you're comparing nearly 80 years apart.
+People fighting the Napoleon war would likely react the same to ww1 or the colonization of Africa.
+
+Most of the cultural marxism I assume you're refering to happened in the last 15 years. Some western nations had racial segregation up until the 90s
+--- 14902708
+>>14902592
+Then how come they bombed 13 airstrips and numerous aircraft factories in and around London virtually unopposed? The only initial successes the RAF had was in destroying the Norwegian based fleet attacking Northern England.
+
+Basically Görings retarded decision to pull back Junkers is what turned the tide as well as a general lack of pilots.
+
+British historians agree with me:
+>In The Narrow Margin, published in 1961, historians Derek Wood and Derek Dempster believed that the two weeks from 24 August to 6 September represented a real danger. According to them, from 24 August to 6 September 295 fighters had been totally destroyed and 171 badly damaged, against a total output of 269 new and repaired Spitfires and Hurricanes. They assert that 103 pilots were killed or missing and 128 were wounded, which represented a total wastage of 120 pilots per week out of a fighting strength of just fewer than 1,000. They conclude that during August no more than 260 fighter pilots were turned out by OTUs and casualties in the same month were just over 300. A full squadron establishment was 26 pilots whereas the average in August was 16. In their assessment, the RAF was losing the battle.[228] Denis Richards, in his 1953 contribution to the official British account History of the Second World War, agreed that lack of pilots, especially experienced ones, was the RAF's greatest problem. He states that between 8 and 18 August 154 RAF pilots were killed, severely wounded, or missing, while only 63 new pilots were trained. Availability of aircraft was also a serious issue. While its reserves during the Battle of Britain never declined to a half dozen planes as some later claimed, Richards describes 24 August to 6 September as the critical period because during these two weeks Germany destroyed far more aircraft through its attacks on 11 Group's southeast bases than Britain was producing. Three more weeks of such a pace would indeed have exhausted aircraft reserves
+--- 14902720
+>>14902653
+>be british soldier in the second world war
+>get surrounded in Dunkirk
+>Germans try to get you to surrender to safe your own life
+>refuse to do so
+>lots of your friends die while trying to escape but you survive
+>the Germans are trying to tell you that they just want peace so they can fight the soviets
+>don't care in that moment
+>later get deployed in Normandy
+>Germans are telling you how you're dooming western civilization
+>Germans are saying how they're the last hope against leftist subversion and degeneracy
+>Don't listen then
+>win the war
+>first years after the war are good
+>get lots of benefits for being a veteran
+>get lots of respect for having fought
+>start working a decent job
+>buy a car
+>buy a house
+>have a family
+>suddenly you hear new music playing on the radio
+>they're talking about "free love" and making fun of the religious values you hold dear
+>crime is going up
+>strange people from other countries are showing up in the streets
+>your traditional neighborhood is bulldozed and replaced with highways and appartment blocks for the immigrants
+>you get fired from your job because its shipped overseas
+>retire, think its going to get better
+>your grandkids are hating you because you don't support homosexuality
+>while buying groceries a dark skinned man approaches you
+>he demands your wallet
+>when you don't comply he stabs you to death and tells the police you were calling him a nigger so he had to defend himself
+>police drop all charges while you are lying on the floor bleeding to death
+>you contemplate your life choices
+>"maybe we fought the wrong people back then..."
+--- 14902726
+>>14902544
+except for the fact they had no way of actually holding those air bases and ports, especially since their supply lines would be severely disrupted since they never had that level of air control, if you want a modern example of unsupported ariel drop in the enemies heartland just look at Russias air drop units at the start of the Ukraine war, and all of that still doesn't change the fact they had no way of taking the channel, trying to unironically use fucking HOI as an argument is retarded since its a vidya were player fun takes precedent even if its no where near realistic, because who would play a map painting game if your ability to paint said map is severely hampered by the fact you will nearly always fail to take an island
+--- 14902781
+>>14902720
+Germans didn't just want Brits to surrender, they wanted them to shake off Rothschild control too.
+--- 14902786
+>>14902726
+Again though, they won at with fewer troops Crete using precisely that strategy. Destroyed 40 British ships too.
+--- 14902836
+>>14902708
+
+What is it that you dont understand? The German airforce was taking heavier losses and had fewer replacements than the British. It's really that simple.
+
+The UK lost roughly 1k aircrafts. Germany lost roughtly 2k
+The British were steadily replacing their losses. They produced over twice as many aircrafts as they lost. Germany couldnt replace theirs.
+
+Germany lost roughly 2500 pilots
+Britain lost roughly 500 pilots
+
+The pilots were the most skilled and most experienced of Germany. The British pilots got better and better while the Germans had to constantly train new recruits.
+
+Meanwhile german pilots who survived began suffering from combat trauma since chances were high they would be killed or captured.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanalkrankheit
+
+Theres also the question of aviation fuel which costed far more to produce and were far more draining for Germany than it did for Britain since Germany relied on synthetic plants.
+
+Also, the battle couldnt continue any longer, since weather would make it impossible after September. Another reason to abort.
+
+>Then how come they bombed 13 airstrips and numerous aircraft factories in and around London virtually unopposed?
+
+At no point were they unopposed.
+Bombing the airfields didnt matter at all. The German bombers didnt have enough payload nor the precision to destroy the airfields. Most bombers didnt even locate their targets. The British were also using provisional airfields in the countryside.
+In fact, the allied bombers also did not have the accuracy, hence one of the reason why they switched to "dehousing" bombing over Germany instead of precise industrial bombing.
+
+>Basically Görings retarded decision to pull back Junkers
+
+If you're refering to the Junker 88s then it made perfect sense since they were useless because they didnt have the capacity to destroy their targets, and they were too slow to engage British fighters.
+
+>tldr
+You stil havent explained how you're going to invade Britain.
+--- 14902840
+>>14900632 (OP)
+>You
+--- 14902862
+>>14902720
+>>socialists are saying how they're the last hope against leftist subversion
+--- 14902878
+>>14902720
+
+>Nazis dont start a world war
+>Nazis dont genocide minorities
+>2020 Europe still has a positive view of nationalism and racial awareness. Jews are not given a blank cheque to say and do everything they want. People arent shunned or compared to Hitler because they call out gypsies and african migrants for their behaviour. Europe has a much more enforced border policy. Right wing conservatives are much more populare and everyone agrees on a strong nation state and homogenous society. The left has a much harder time arguing against traditionalism.
+--- 14902884
+>>14902836
+Your entire wall of text does not alter anything I said at all. I was already aware of every single thing you posted.
+--- 14902889
+>>14902884
+
+Good. So we've established the fact that Germany never had, not was able to achieve air superiority.
+
+Now explain how they're going to move units across the channel.
+--- 14902911
+>>14902889
+No. We established the fact that you agree with Göring. I disagree with you both and would sacrifice the Junkers to bomb the aircraft industry and power infrastructure in Southern Britain instead of wasting time in the North. Additionally sacrifice the u-boats to control the channel.
+
+Of course Germany had a continent's worth of resources to produce more aircraft and pilots. The high command simply didn't want to and instead shifted focus to the Balkans.
+--- 14903014
+>>14902911
+>bomb the aircraft industry and power infrastructure in Southern Britain
+They tried that. They werent able to destroy the industries, just as the allies were not able to destroy the German industries later in the war despite dropping 1000x times more explosives over German cities. It did not stop german fighter production.
+
+Attempting to bomb specific targets was when the German airforce sustained its most dramatic losses. The fighter pilots had to fly slower and without initiative to cover the German bombers which gave the British fighters an immediate and fatal tactical edge. Escorting bombers drained more fuel as they had to fly slower. A german fighter many times only had roughly 10 minutes above Britain before being forced to turn back or risk ditching in the sea. If this pilot was still engaged in a fight when forced to turn back, he would virtually become a free kill for the British fighter.
+
+>Additionally sacrifice the u-boats to control the channel.
+How are Uboats going to ferry troops for the invasion?
+
+>Of course Germany had a continent's worth of resources to produce more aircraft and pilots
+You mean the fairly resource meager Europe vs .... the entire British empire and the entire world as its trading partner?
+--- 14903032
+>>14902911
+
+Here, I made this one just for you
+--- 14904168
+>>14904164
+--- 14904408
+>>14902720
+Is there any real life example of this happening?
+--- 14904511
+>>14904408
+
+/pol/ retards generally assume the world is just going to stop in a Germany victory timeline.
+A murderous and enslaving state like that with a very educated middle class and western culture wouldnt last long. 
+It would have been held together by the old generation of political hardliners. Eventually a younger generation would take over and immediately begin to change all the fundamentally immoral aspects of the state.
+
+Want a reference? This is exactly what happened to the USSR. In the 80s the USSR had like 4 different leaders in less than a year because they were all old and kept dying. Once the new generation like Yeltsin and Gorbachev came to power it was clear they saw things differently despite their die-hard communist peers and despite heavy indoctrination and acceptance to communism.
+
+Nevermind the fact that Germany has always been the center of spawning political theorists, often extremely left leaning liberals.
+
+Several fascist states survived ww2. None survived time. As soon as the people who created the state died, it immediately reformed into its natural culturally-western self.
+--- 14904943
+>>14904511
+NSDAP were centrists though, socialists are left of libertarian capitalists, right of extremist communists.
+--- 14904956
+>>14902316
+French had a lot more reason to hate the Germans so they needed more convincing probably.
+
+Britain obviously lost a lot of men to Germany in WW1 but it was never some personal national revenge. Like France being upset over Alsace Lorraine
+--- 14904967
+>>14902509
+Meiji Kampf is poorly written but I’d put most of the blame for that on Rudolf Hess
+
+Hitler was either incapable of writing it himself or too lazy

his/14900653.txt

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+-----
+--- 14900653
+If it's true we evolved from apes, then I can no longer believe in the Bible.
+--- 14900658
+>>14900653 (OP)
+Oops, sorry wrong pic
+--- 14900664
+>>14900653 (OP)
+>>14900658
+Whats the difference?
+--- 14900763
+>>14900653 (OP)
+Why did they call it evilution if they didn't want us to think that it's satanic?
+--- 14900778
+>>14900763
+You just can't read or spell because you're uneducated like all Christians.
+--- 14900952
+>>14900786
+>William Lane Craig
+>Buy my book goyim for $9.99 to unlock the secrets of God
+--- 14900954
+>>14900653 (OP)
+>ADAM! EVE! COME OUT FROM BEHIND THOSE TREES
+>I KNOW YOU'RE THERE! I CAN SMELL YOUR FEAR!
+--- 14900968
+>>14900954
+>GODDAMNIT, EVE!! YOU'VE REALLY DONE IT THIS TIME!
+--- 14902298
+>>14900653 (OP)
+>>14900658
+i can't tell the difference
+--- 14902304
+>>14900954
+kek
+--- 14902626
+>>14900653 (OP)
+I swear everytime a shitposter reposts this image he edits it a shade darker
+--- 14903760
+>>14900653 (OP)
+--- 14903770
+>>14900653 (OP)
+It is not true
+--- 14903904
+>>14903770
+There've actually been some experiments where bird genes were fucked with and the embryos started developing dino traits. It's pretty cool.
+--- 14903933
+>>14900653 (OP)
+That's not necessarily true, you can believe in both
+--- 14904795
+>>14900653 (OP)
+>>14902626
+Jajajajajaja

his/14900896.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,163 @@
+-----
+--- 14900896
+Why can Israel collect on reparations for crimes done to jewish-noncitizens from before the state even existed, but not is not liable for damages for crimes committed by jewish non-citizens?
+--- 14900961
+Its almost like jews cannot tell you whether or not corporate responsibility exists until you tell them why you are asking.
+--- 14901055
+>>14901042
+Jews just don't have any sort of concept of true or false. For them, words are just sounds they make to try and get what they want, they have no external meaning.
+--- 14901699
+>>14901096
+To live in Western societies is a privilege the jewish race enjoys but does not deserve. Jews are more sophisticated gypsies and far more dangerous; unlike gypsies jews are a society-destroying threat. A jew will almost never call out the crimes of his criminal clan. A jew can be openly racist against goyim and still be held in high regard. Either jews agree or the rabid racism from this man is simply not a deal-breaker because he served the tribe. When you look at jews in this way it makes perfect sense that they fervently defend Israel. Seeing a jew as your countryman is a mistake; his loyalty is to the tribe and you must always take this into account.
+--- 14901724
+>>14900976
+I see no reason to believe anything that comes out of the mouth of a jew
+--- 14901958
+>>14901699
+Same could be said for certain whites lmao
+--- 14902118
+>>14901958
+Jews aren't white
+--- 14902130
+>>14900896 (OP)
+>state promotes its own interest, leveraging every advantage or tool it has available, more news at 11
+Countries push for reparations all the fucking time, and the fact that a state claiming to represent the group subject to the most infamous genocide in history would get a lot of gibs without having to pay much out isn't actually remarkable
+--- 14902156
+>>14902130
+Buddy you seem to have accidentally ignored the second part of anons question
+--- 14902170
+>>14902130
+Why shouldn’t Israel be forced to pay reparations to the victims of judeo-bolshevism tho?
+--- 14902176
+>>14902170
+I agree with you that Israel shouldn't be receiving reparations for the holocaust, the state that perpetrated it no longer exists and the state of Israel wasn't a victim
+--- 14902178
+>>14902156
+Whos gonna punish them? Russia? Babushkas love Stalin
+--- 14902182
+>>14902176
+>the state that perpetrated it no longer exists a
+Countries are not real, the perpetrator was the white race.
+--- 14902197
+>>14902182
+>the perpetrator was the white race.
+Why are these j3ws smiling
+--- 14902202
+>>14902178
+Ideally interpol
+--- 14902210
+>>14902156
+States have very little to gain from demanding reparations from Israel. Any financial claims against individuals would be quite small unless they pull out meme tier historical claims, and even then such claims would be properly filtered through their own courts since they can just prosecute the individual responsible. But doing so would gain nothing and make the country doing it look stupid, with other countries not really caring about how it supposedly demonstrates how hypocritical Israel is.
+
+Or of course they could just go to war with Israel based on the idea that the Jewish people have aggrieved them, win, and then force Israel to pay reparations.
+--- 14902214
+>>14902210
+So in short, jews control the courts, the media, and America and wouldn't let it fly
+--- 14902219
+>>14902197
+Because their opressor stopped oppresing them but that doesnt mean they wont pay for their crime. The white race is a person, as you clearly know
+>>14902202
+Interpol is a french meme
+--- 14902225
+>>14902182
+And the victim was ash in the oven. So no need for reparations
+--- 14902226
+>>14902214
+They don't control any of that anymore lol, maybe the press that no one reads.
+--- 14902238
+>>14902226
+>Maybe
+There is no maybe. The jews control the media. It's not even debatable anymore
+>that no one reads
+Is this because some people no longer trust the lying jews? Even if you were to be correct, which you are not, the media absolutely affects peoples' perceptions of social and economic issues. If they're not reading the newspaper, they're looking at retweeted headlines or abridged summaries from Brooklyn Dad or Jojofromjerz, and where do you think they get THEIR information from? The news of course
+--- 14902247
+>>14902219
+>Because their opressor
+I know what you're trying to do. The holocaust was based and self defense btw. But obviously the fact there was a world war fought between different European country proves Europeans are not to be judged under one banner. It's ungrateful spiteful kike thinking, and a false equivalence.
+>Interpol is a french meme
+They are called the inernational police so they should arrest perpetrators of international jewry
+--- 14902358
+>>14902238
+>Is this because some people no longer trust the lying jews?
+No, because people don't have the attention span for anything other than Twitter, TikTok and Youtube shorts anymore.
+--- 14902378
+>>14902247
+>They are called the inernational police
+Its a loose association of police forces with no power beyond sending email asking for voluntary help to other forces
+--- 14902413
+>>14902378
+I don't understand what you are trying to say. I am saying that an organization calling itself interpol should deal with international criminal syndicates such as the jewish race regardless of their current power
+--- 14902424
+>>14900896 (OP)
+There's a reason Stalin purged them all from government and supported Palestine over Israel. The wrong side won the Cold War.
+--- 14902427
+>>14902413
+Interpol isnt a real organization, its just an email list
+--- 14902432
+>>14902427
+End jewishness
+--- 14902452
+>>14902424
+https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
+Lmao
+This narrative of Stalin hating kikes
+--- 14902547
+>>14902452
+>trusting what he said
+>not looking at what he did
+OK
+--- 14902666
+>>14902547
+>O-oy vey! How could you go-anon? We want the edgy teens believing communism is based and redpilled and definitely not jewish!
+--- 14902738
+>>14902358
+Did I not literally say they are getting their news from mouthpieces they think are their friends, information that comes from partisan news anyway
+Yes, it is significant that the power to control what Americans see and do not see lies in the hands of the jews of their minions. This is without even devling into the financial impact of owning massive media conglomerates during the television age, OR addressing it was a flagrantly false claim to begin with. How the fuck are they still making money with no interest?
+--- 14902774
+>>14902738
+Idk Anon. Modern America is more antisemetic than it has been in the last 50 years. The media declared Trump a racist wignat Nazi and the majority of white people voted for him anyway.
+
+The media establishment has lost control, that's why they speeding up demographic destruction which backfired for them anyway. They are squealing because they know they're probably going to die in an oven seeing a bunch of Latinos LARPing in Hugo Boss ripoff uniforms throw them in.
+--- 14902919
+>>14902774
+>Idk Anon. Modern America is more antisemetic than it has been in the last 50 years.
+I highly doubt this is true but I know we are not anti-semitic enough. How is one even to gauge that? If you are referring to individual incidents of anti-semitism, not only would that prove nothing, as the vast majority are just cases of niggers attacking anything around them because they are violent and stupid, but the US population has increased by 100 million in 50 years. I would love to know what metric you go by
+>The media establishment has lost control,
+The (jewish) media has an inordinate amount of control over the Overton window. I don't know what community is next in their batting order but right now trannies are at the plate. This bud light tranny controversy is honestly one of the lamest campaigns I've seen. When I say they control the overton window I mean that left and right are mere tools for the jew. Though not equivalent, they still have literally every so-called "right wing" politician in the palm of their hands. Trump and Desantis both gargle Israeli semen; Trump obviously is no nazi. When they have control over the bounds of politics, they get 0 attention span retards discussing which brand of piss water to shove down their throats instead of government corruption, or the jews, their toxic influence, and how we can hold them accountable. That is the absolute #1 political issue to me. You even see fake right wing mouthpieces like Matt Walsh constantly defend the tribe. His goal seems to be to redirect American frustration towards "leftists" and "trannies" which are mere symptoms of 
+living under jewish rule. There are always going to be leftist jews complaining about Trump or Desantis however, because the white genocide initiative is paramount and anyone who becomes a hero or riles up the white working class is an enemy. That is how much they fucking hate us, and that's not even getting into jews who vote Republican. They are somehow worse
+--- 14902945
+>>14902774
+>that's why they speeding up demographic destruction which backfired for them anyway.
+What do you mean? Demographic replacement dilutes white power. It works as intended and they're not stopping because no one has stopped them. It would backfire if
+>People would stand up to the government. All white men go on general strike and watch society grind to a halt.
+>armed rebellion
+>We have a government that acts in our best interests anyway, so not America, a country that both legally and illegally imports millions of spics AND pampers them with gibs
+We have sanctuary cities ffs. Does such a thing exist anywhere else, where not only does the government turn a blind eye to law-breaking, they establish zones where breaking the law is completely legal and no one will be punished for it?
+--- 14902961
+>>14902945
+>they establish zones where breaking the law is completely legal and no one will be punished for it?
+Take your meds
+--- 14902982
+>>14902961
+You know you are hitting the nail on the head when you get this retarded response
+--- 14903094
+>>14902919
+It's violent attacks yeah, some of them at record levels like in New Jersey, the most attacks in its history. But also it's been completely completely normalised to speak of Jews owning the press/Hollywood etc.. Sure, some people would rebuff heavily, others agreeing. But it's major difference from a decade ago where you would get NPC stares. Even in Nazi Germany most people were still Weimar brained and defending Jews.
+
+>>14902945
+The illegals are mostly Christians. The real problem is the legal Asians, they are worse than Jews, even more subversive.
+
+Most of the cowards will leave the second any major violence breaks out though.
+--- 14904032
+>>14903094
+>It's violent attacks yeah
+When the population has grown 100+ million since the 1970s? In 1973 our population was 212 million. It makes since that there would be more total incidents. And how are they even determining which attacks are anti-semitic? Jews have this tendency, and yes it's intentional, to use this label against any criticism. I don't think it's a stretch to apply this broadly to any attacks against a jew. I remember being accused of being an anti-semite in real life because I asked questions about Israel's treatment about Palestinians.
+The average black criminal lacks the brain capacity to understand the jewish question as completely separate from whites. It's also not uncommon for them to attack the elderly/middle-aged which all hasidic jews I've seen seem to be. To add on to this, it is extremely likely the ADL inflates numbers as much as it can.
+>The illegals are mostly Christians
+So? There are simply so many foreigners in this country in addition to the black slave descendants that the voice of an American has been heavily diluted. Most of the foreigners are Mexican. How would say the Democratic party operate if it were forced to address white issues instead of rallying its base of blacks with no critical thinking skills, self hating whites, and foreigners?
+>The real problem is the legal Asians, they are worse than Jews, even more subversive.
+Chinese are cutthroat, blacks and jews are some of the worst things to happen to America. When someone tried to speak of jewish overrepresentation they froze his bank accounts. The push for black culture into the mainstream is also lead by them. The Sugarhill Gang was bankrolled by Morris Levy, the head of Roulette Records. Rapper's Delight was one of the early rap hits. Kurtis Blow is another example, is considered the first rapper to sign to a major label. Mercury Records was formed by Irving Green, Berle Adams, Ray Greenberg, and Arthur Talmadge. For two of these you don't even need an early
+--- 14904063
+>>14903094
+>>14904032
+...life section. So are jews communicating with each other telepathically to destroy their host nations? No, they are different people acting on basic instinct and what they have been taught by other jews. But there sure do seem to be a lot of negrophilic jews. The idea of jews being a clannish tribe that do not identify with Europeans is not an uncommon sentiment either. I believe there is a trickle down from rabbinical "goyim are slaves" circles that permeates the brains of even secular jews.

his/14901115.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901115
+In the early 1900s, Germany had a bargain with Egypt where its archeologists could dig up ancient stuff. They would then make a list of what they found, the Egyptians would examine the list, and approve of certain objects being taken back to museums in Germany.
+
+A German archeologist discovered the Bust of Nefertiti, lied about it on the report, and took it to Germany. Since then, Imperial Germany, Weimar Germany, Nazi Germany, West Germany, and modern Germany have all refused demands by Egypt to return the bust, making it the only foreign policy decision all five states agree upon.
+--- 14901118
+>>14901115 (OP)
+thats because its a forgery
+--- 14901454
+>>14901115 (OP)
+>Western archaeologists orchestrated the massive sampling on the best remaining works of art in the early 20th century. Aside from their colonial outlook, one of their alleged motivations was to protect these works of arts from vandalism due to Islamic iconoclasm and the depredations of treasure hunters.
+>Most of the dismantled panels were sent to the Museum für Indische Kunst, Berlin, Germany, but ironically and tragically many were lost in the destructions of World War II, with only photographs or drawings remaining in the best cases.
+
+About the Kizil Caves. Given the current situation in Europe it's somewhat reasonable for thirdies to want their artifacts back but it's also hard to complain in cases like these, any archaeologist seeing art near Muslims would likely smuggle it to Europe immediately. The sad part is that even nowadays Chinese tourists are still ravaging the place.
+
+I don't think there will ever be any safe places for relics. Maybe if South America could get its shit together and stop burning their own museums down, but that's a pipe dream.
+--- 14901473
+>>14901454
+>any archaeologist seeing art near Muslims would likely smuggle it to Europe immediately.
+That's a weak justification for theft. Especially since we have to this day westerners who try to smuggle out goods. One Italian man in Malindi, Kenya stole religious idols still in used within sacred forests. He not only refused to give them back but justified it by saying they weren't using it anymore. not that people who made those idols stopped placing them in the forest because of reality that they got gypped 
+
+The only reason why the Nubian pyramids were in ruins was because an Italian bombed them in search of treasures.
+--- 14901505
+>>14901473
+Source on the Nubian pyramids?
+--- 14901564
+>>14901473
+>The destruction was carried out in stages. Initially, the statues were fired at for several days using anti-aircraft guns and artillery. This caused severe damage, but did not obliterate them. During the destruction, Taliban Information Minister Qudratullah Jamal said that, "The destruction work is not as easy as people would think. You can't knock down the statues by dynamite or shelling as both of them have been carved in a cliff. They are firmly attached to the mountain." Later, the Taliban placed anti-tank mines at the bottom of the niches, so that when fragments of rock broke off from artillery fire, the statues would receive additional destruction from particles that set off the mines. In the end, the Taliban lowered men down the cliff face and placed explosives into holes in the Buddhas. After one of the explosions failed to obliterate the face of one of the Buddhas, a rocket was launched that left a hole in the remains of the stone head.
+
+This is all the justification anyone should need.
+--- 14901579
+>>14901564
+>talking about egyptian antiquities
+>quotes out the afghani taliban
+???
+--- 14901590
+>>14901579
+read the thread again
+--- 14902449
+>>14901115 (OP)
+Ok
+--- 14902569
+>>14901579
+>Al-Aziz Uthman (1171–1198), the second Ayyubid Sultan of Egypt, tried to destroy the Giza pyramid complex. He gave up after only damaging the Pyramid of Menkaure because the task proved too large.
+Happy now?
+--- 14903108
+>>14902569
+>(1171–1198)
+--- 14903241
+>>14902569
+>there is considerable evidence of popular local pride in monuments such as the Giza Pyramids and the Sphinx, so much that these monuments were never destroyed out of the fear of causing riots.[2] The monuments of Pharaonic Egypt were generally seen as possessing magical powers and were viewed as objects of respect by ordinary Egyptians, despite the fact that the Koran execrates ancient Egypt as an especially reprehensible period of jahiliyyah.[3] As late as 1378, it was reported that nominally Muslim peasants would go burn incense at night in front of the Sphinx while uttering prayers which were said to empower the Sphinx to speak, which led a Sufi holy man to attack the Sphinx.[2] Local legends claimed the attack on the Sphinx led to a massive sand storm at Giza, which only ended with the holy man's lynching.
+
+>In Egypt, the popular belief that the Pyramids and the Sphinx together with the other ruins of ancient Egypt had magical powers did much to ensure their survival with one 13th century Muslim writer, Jamal al-Din al-Idrisi, warning that to destroy the Pyramids would unleash dark supernatural forces that would cause such carnage that horses would wade in human blood, leading him to the conclusion that the Pyramids were best left alone.[4] Such beliefs about the magical powers said to be invested in the ruins of ancient Egypt testified to a certain popular pride in and reverence for the ancient past of Egypt.[3] In the same way, Egyptians in the Middle Ages invented a story that the Pharaoh mentioned in the Book of Exodus and in the Koran was not an Egyptian, but rather an Iranian, in an attempt to salvage pride in the ancient past despite the way the Koran condemns it.[4] To prevent the destruction of the ruins, medieval Egyptians usually "Islamized" the ruins by inventing stories associating them with the companions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad or local Sufi saints, thereby turning them into quasi-Islamic sites that could not be destroyed.[3]
+--- 14903287
+>>14901115 (OP) (OP)
+Why wouldnt the onions governments we have today give it back?
+--- 14903333
+>>14903108
+>muslims aren't stuck in the middle ages
+--- 14903363
+>>14903108
+>>14903241
+Is this supposed to be some sort of rebuttal to the matter at hand? It doesn't even logically connect to my post
+--- 14903376
+>>14903363
+lmfao the shitskin can't read
+--- 14903381
+>>14903376
+Who is fighting who right now? What's your position here?
+--- 14903484
+>>14903363
+Im pointing out that Egyptians have been protecting their antiquities even during the middle ages, most if not all the destruction was done by the foreign Caliphs
+trying to draw a comparison between Egypt and taliban afghanistan is retarded
+--- 14903516
+>>14903484
+Posting that Egyptian commoners had to invent complex larps to show how the pagan temples are ackshually Islamic doesn't refute the point that Islam is an active danger to them by any stretch. The pyramids right now are not threatened since Egypt depends upon tourism, but a scenario where it collapses into civil war and retarded salafists destroy things isn't even unimaginable, and that's the point.
+--- 14903620
+>>14903516
+>doesn't refute the point that Islam is an active danger to them by any stretch.
+it shows that the people themselves care about them enough to protect them, trying to ignore the reality of egyptian culture and commoner outlook for some sect of islam that a small schizo minority believes in is very flimsy
+its like saying antiquities cant be trusted in western nations in europe because of the constant riots/wars in the past >>14901454
+>where it collapses into civil war
+Le egypt civil war meme has been parroted since 2013 and literally nothing came of it
+--- 14903636
+>>14903516
+It proves that the beliefs held in Islam about antiquities are not always translated into destructive action against them
+--- 14903641
+>>14903620
+Antiquities should probably not be held in the Balkans or Russia either, yes.
+>Le egypt civil war meme has been parroted since 2013 and literally nothing came of it
+You are mentally retarded and either missing or deliberately evading the point
+>>14903636
+Puyi proves that the beliefs held in communism about aristocrats are not always translated into killing them, yet you would clearly be retarded to remain in a communist country as an aristocrat.
+--- 14903728
+>>14901115 (OP)
+Actually I have it in animal crossing
+--- 14903740
+>>14901454
+I think the Taliban destroying the Buddhas in Afghanistan says enough
+
+>>14901473
+>black people and africa
+
+No one cares about that irrelevant shit
+--- 14903822
+>>14901118
+If it's a forgery then why does Egypt want it back so bad? Probably just to destroy it because it looks too white and they can't cope.
+--- 14903829
+>>14903822
+>it because it looks too white
+the fuck
+--- 14903836
+>>14903740
+I hope niggers jump you at school tomorrow Chang
+--- 14903839
+>>14903740
+>I think the Taliban destroying the Buddhas in Afghanistan says enough
+that was based because it made chuds like you seethe
+--- 14903899
+>>14901115 (OP)
+>In December 2009, Friederike Seyfried, director of Berlin's Egyptian Museum and Papyrus Collection, presented to the Egyptians documents held by the museum regarding the discovery of the bust, which include a protocol signed by the German excavator and the Egyptian Antiquities Service. In the documents, the bust was listed as a painted plaster bust of a princess, but in his diary, Borchardt clearly referred to it as the head of Nefertiti. "This proves that Borchardt wrote this description so that his country can get the statue," Hawass said. "These materials confirm Egypt's contention that (he) did act unethically with intent to deceive." However, Hawass said Egypt didn't consider the bust to be a looted antiquity. "I really want it back," he said.[39] His statement also said that the authority to approve the return of the bust to Egypt lies with the Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation and the German culture minister.[53]
+
+So they were too lazy and basically didn't bother to check the list. "plaster bust of a princess" is pretty fucking significant. They never cared about the history before until they realised its worth tourist money.
+
+>>14903241
+This paragraph is literally mixing pride with fear. These are the grave robbers that tore the marbel off the pyramids. They never associated with it, they just feared it.
+
+It's the same thing with the Nafturian ruins, the superstitious Muslims fear it too much to fuck with it.
+--- 14903910
+>>14903620
+>Le egypt civil war meme has been parroted since 2013 and literally nothing came of it
+Le Syrian civil war meme has been parroted since 2008
+--- 14903929
+>>14903899
+retard
+>Nafturian
+retard
+--- 14903930
+>westerners don't bring enough aid to our starving children
+>say you'll destroy the buddha statues if they don't bring money
+>they offer to buy the statues instead, giving you more than enough to feed the entire country
+>instead you spend several millions of dollars worth in missiles shooting at the buddha for an entire week
+euroids absolutely btfo
+--- 14903939
+>>14903836
+We’re talking about actual historical artifacts that have cultural weight as they are tied to ancient civilizations, not Chief Peepee Tûtû’s bongo drums he plays before rallying his child soldiers to butcher a village of pygmies.
+
+>>14903839
+>destroy history to own le chuds
+
+Mao is that you?
+--- 14903952
+>>14903822
+>it looks too white
+it doesn't particularly "white" sweety, unfortunately for yt pipo, you're not special, sandniggers are your racial brothers and sisters and share your features
+--- 14904113
+>>14903899
+>So they were too lazy and basically didn't bother to check the list. "plaster bust of a princess" is pretty fucking significant
+If you go on to read that article, it says he wrapped it up and let a guy vaguely look at the box, knowing he'd be too lazy to examine something that was already packed up, because he knew instantly the bust's value and wanted to downplay it to the Egyptians.
+--- 14904120
+>>14903822
+lol what, it looks a copt woman
+--- 14904183
+>>14903930
+>they offer to buy the statues instead, giving you more than enough to feed the entire country
+a couple millions is nothing though. Getting sanctioned by NATO and then some European fuckers saying they want to pay for some old ass statues would piss anyone off
+--- 14904186
+>>14903484
+Lmfao why you even need to explain yourself
+What a cuck
+--- 14904204
+>>14903829
+>>14903952
+>>14904120
+The people who built the Great Pyramids were white.
+--- 14904255
+>>14903641
+What about western europe or germany? that part of the world has seen plenty of conflict
+>>14903910
+you are retarded if you think the political structure or demographics of egypt is anything like syria
+Egypt is vastly more homogenous and centralized
+--- 14904528
+>>14904204
+we were kings and stuff dude!

his/14901185.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901185
+>He bad because he banned jews from marrying pagans and Christians
+why do the chosen people even want to mingle with the hated goyim?
+--- 14901288
+>>14901185 (OP)
+Shiksa pussy got them acting strange
+--- 14902233
+>>14901185 (OP)
+This is why
+--- 14902302
+>>14902233
+Cool theory but not real.
+>>14901185 (OP)
+they want their segregation to be self-imposed.
+--- 14902349
+>>14902302
+Jews literally suck mutilated baby penis blood, they're cannibals.
+--- 14902355
+>>14902349
+Metzitzah B'Peh, as horrible as it is does not prove Jews are Neanderthals anon I'm sorry.
+--- 14902664
+>>14901185 (OP)
+Yeah
+--- 14902773
+>>14902355
+I studided Genocides for my Doctorate. The Jewish Holocaust professor who was the head of the History Department believed Jews were Neanderthals and that the Cro-Magnons shoah'd them out of Europe 20,000 years ago.
+Whether it's genetically proveable or not, it's the headcanon of many influential jews, and apart of their culture and biological inclinations.
+--- 14902792
+>>14901185 (OP)
+parasites need a host
+--- 14903140
+>>14902302
+Their own book has them banned from marrying goyim and jews are slaughtered by constantly for mixing. Their other books are super racist towards goyim
+--- 14903146
+>>14903140
+>have book that says you are the chosen ones and everyone else are gentile cattles that should work for you
+>gets you kicked out or massacred
+shocked Pikachu face
+--- 14903161
+>>14901185 (OP)
+No, this is why he’s bad
+--- 14903173
+>>14901185 (OP)
+Goyim pussy the best
+--- 14903182
+>>14902233
+anon, anyone who is not fully African has neanderthal blood. Which probably includes you.
+"The neanderthal predation hypothesis" has some water to hold but only answers the wuestion why humans killed neanderthals to extinction and anything else claimed in the book is just speculation that ignores the fact that neanderthals became extinct by the time homo sapiens societies spread around the Eurasia.
+Also what even the first pic is even trying to depict.
+--- 14903293
+>>14903161
+Are they self aware?
+--- 14903298
+And then that dumbass Julian started kissing jewish ass
+--- 14903361
+>>14903293
+Neanderthal skulls are like niggers but ten times more emotionally unstable. No, they're not self aware. They operate purely on instinct, complete animals with no ability to doubt themselves. They will either kill everything on the planet after castrating and de-castrating it into oblivion or be slaughtered by people who don't want all life to go extinct.
+>>14903182
+why didn't you respond to my previous post? Replying to the OG post with a bunch of lies and word slop is pretty jewish.
+Also Modern Europeans have next to no Neanderthal DNA. Cro-Magnons and Modern Europeans are almost 1-1 the same unless they have admixture like Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, etcetera.
+
+You're fooling no one.
+--- 14903644
+>>14901185 (OP)
+BGC makes jewess wet
+--- 14904503
+>>14901185 (OP)
+Nobody ever said this guy was bad
+In fact nobody except late-romaboos even know who this guy is
+Regardless he was a decent and underated emperor
+--- 14904512
+>>14901288
+You become Jewish from mothers side, Schlomo. It means that Jewish women fuck goyim cock.
+--- 14904822
+>>14904503
+Also not because he was anti jewish was just a good emperor

his/14901230.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901230
+How ethnically homogenous were Vikings?
+--- 14901251
+>>14901230 (OP)
+WE
+--- 14901668
+I'm under the impression that viking raiding parties were not scandinavian-exclusive. There were non-scandies among them. I remember from my early middle ages history class a few years back being told of a visigoth who was a member of a viking party. 
+
+Idk about the extent of the diversity though. It might have just been a few odd exceptions.
+--- 14901752
+Pure african american stock
+--- 14901755
+>>14901230 (OP)
+i hate american culture so fucking much
+--- 14902323
+Norwegian archeologists investigating Viking burials in Ireland found out that 20 - 25 % of the buried Vikings was Sami (Finno-Ugrian) from northern Norway
+--- 14902371
+>>14901668
+That's because there was no such thing as "Scandi" identity, they were Germanic and would not have perceived Goths as more foreign than other Germanic tribes. Half of "Norse mythology" is about Goths and other continental Germans, they were the same culture. However, I doubt their inclusivity went beyond that.
+>>14902323
+There are 0 Sami-like Viking samples in the British Isles.
+--- 14902437
+>>14901230 (OP)
+She could pass as a local in any modern Scandinavian major city.
+--- 14902444
+>>14901230 (OP)
+The viking graves are very heterogeneous. But many of these guys probably weren't vikings but slaves. 
+Check out the PCA of published Scandinavian samples. They are all over the place. Especially Baltic presence is very visible. Gotland samples are mostly Baltic-like.
+--- 14902459
+>>14902444
+Lots of samples. Many southern ones, many Baltic and Uralic.
+--- 14902480
+>>14902459
+They don't seem to get much more southern than flanders and barely more baltic than lithuania
+--- 14902515
+>>14902480
+You have some French like and one Spanish like. Many samples are Lithuanian like, two Finnish like, one seems to be pure Saami (that viking era triangle). 
+Some Slavic samples also show up, but yeah, the majority is Scandinavia. 
+
+I think the colored figures on graph A show averages.
+--- 14902519
+>>14902444
+Germanics had a weird practice of capturing slaves on raids, then allowing them to work their way to freedom and become full members of society without reservations. I'm still perplexed at how Ulfilas was allowed to happen. Same reason there's L21 in and N in Scandinavia now.
+--- 14902537
+>>14902519
+There was a DNA study about some medieval Scandi village pre- and post-black death. The pre-black death samples were more diverse, with lots of guys who looked like Northwest Europeans. After the pandemic only Scandis remained.
+--- 14902546
+>>14902537
+Disproportionate impact on lower classes, I take it. They really lucked out.
+--- 14902584
+>>14902459
+>40% of them clustering in england
+WE WUZ EFFECTIVELY
+--- 14902612
+>>14902459
+Finnish admixture was present is Scandinavia before the viking period, so it probably reflects some ancient migrations.
+--- 14902633
+>>14902612
+>The burial chamber is the largest c. 10 m2 (NNE–SSW) of all known in the lake Mälar region and northern Sweden from CE 200–700.57 >The human skeletal parts that remained were a collar and a rib bone with healed trauma belonging to a middle-aged large, muscular male,74,75 emphasising the impression that the grave was built for a trained male warrior. >The gold finger rings, one of them the largest gold finger ring ever found in Sweden, were probably military honours; the chain mail, belt and the boar-like tusks, and canines from pigs, probably for a horse fitting, may indicate that the man had been in Roman service. >In the grave was a worn gold coin used as a pendant, struck for the Roman emperor Maximian Hercules 291CE.76,77 Bones from a dog and a goshawk were found in the chamber, as well as a phalanx from a bear, suggesting that bear skin was placed with the deceased. >The goshawk represents the earliest evidence of hunting with birds of prey in the region, a tradition that otherwise belongs to the 6th century.78,79 >The numerous (more than 20) domestic species in the mound filling are interpreted as animals used for the burial feast.75,78
+
+Yeah, some of them were even elites. The guy was N1a1a1a1a1a1a7a.
+--- 14903023
+>>14902459
+basically everything remotely european
+--- 14903059
+>>14901668
+>Visigoth
+>9th century
+--- 14903066
+80% of sampled Vikings were Haplogroup NO Northern Chinese and Northern Japanese, which meant bugmen completely dominated whites for 3 centuries.
+--- 14903079
+>>14903023
+Yeah. I guess except for that one Saami sample. Let's be serious, blacks were extremely uncommon in ancient and medieval Europe. It's just revisionism and propaganda. 
+
+I can think of 4 samples with some black ancestry (that's more than just North African ancestry) out of thousands (I think it's close to 7000) European ancient DNA samples (including post-antiquity samples, but not modern ones). 
+
+1. The East African/Sudanese-like sample from Roman Era Viminacium
+2. The 23% black girl from Anglo-Saxon England
+3 and 4. Two guys from Muslim Spain. 
+
+I guess there was also some slave found in a ditch from 17th century Spain or Portugal.
+--- 14903111
+>>14902537
+But Modern Scandis are nearly majority NW Euro, Low German/Saxon and Dutch.
+--- 14903557
+>>14902537
+>Orangeoids tell the fair robust Keltic BVLLs to fight the disease
+>The Keltic BVLLs singlehandedly conquer BLACK'Death and die in the process
+>Scandis inherit the labors of the L21 BVLLs
+--- 14903614
+>>14901230 (OP)
+Icelanders werent homogenous. They are and were a mix of celts and nords. You can see it in their phenotype. Hafthor Bjornson looks like an oversized scot, and pic related is an Icelandic model, heavy celtic influence.
+--- 14903632
+>>14903023
+>>14903079
+The only named non-European inhabitant of Scandinavian that we know of is Geirmund Heljarskinn (his epithet is literally "of-hel-skinned"). He was half Central Asian, and other Scandinavians were, apparently, very aware of his racial background and viewed it as quite divergent from theirs. He's another one of these weird "slave who gets to work his way up" cases that >>14902519 talks about. Whether he was real or not is up for debate.
+--- 14903653
+>>14903632
+People like him would have existed in the Hunnic-occupied areas, I wonder if anyone thought of that at the time or if there was too much of a gap between them.
+--- 14903661
+>>14903653
+>Hunnic
+--- 14903667
+>>14903661
+If you mean to say they weren't in Scandinavia, there was still great cultural exchange to the point of Atli being a Scandinavian given name, so it doesn't seem impossible to me for someone to recognise it.
+--- 14903672
+>>14903667
+nah
+I remember seeing paper with WMAF burials, where huns were handling asiatic women to 'germanics' that were allied to them
+--- 14903694
+>>14902519
+>ulgilas was not actually a german but a roman cappadocian.
+What the fuck I did not know this.
+--- 14903697
+>>14903614
+Icelanders are the purest Germanics.
+It’s just assumed they are all half Celtic.
+They are 25% Celtic 75% Germanic, Norwegians and Swedes are not even 60% Germanic.
+Icelanders look more Celtic due to their climate selecting for phenotypic traits more common in North West Atlantic.
+--- 14903698
+>>14903694
+Ulfilas, FUCK.
+--- 14903719
+>>14903694
+He would be specially qualified to translate the Bible since he would actually know Greek from his parents. Just bizarre how tolerant they are to integrating foreigners like this.
+--- 14903731
+>>14902537
+the scandi were jews that poisoned all goys
+--- 14903738
+>>14903719
+I just saw the name and assumed german. Same way youd see musa ibn musa from zaragosa mentioned sans context and you'd think it was an arab.
+--- 14903743
+They raided Africa and went as far as the new world just to collect timber, maybe they did pick up a few darker mercenaries from Spain or North Africa I don’t know or give a shit. However these shows did nothing to make an interesting character (I haven’t watched them but cmon) you could use the diversity thing as a tool for real historical education like a few moors or something I don’t know what they’d do it’d be nice if a show could teach me
+--- 14903746
+>>14903672
+Misconception. Those women were Eastern Germanic rather than Asiatic.
+--- 14903776
+>>14903743
+Ypu could unironically easiñy cpntrive your way to show plenty of slavs and italians. Vikang diacoveries and conquests are more interesting than their ethnic make up anyway. (Although I find the prospect of muslim vikings intriguing.)
+--- 14903782
+>>14903059
+https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Asturias
+--- 14903794
+>>14903782
+At that point a visigoth was judt a spainiard.
+--- 14903801
+>>14903776
+>easiñy
+>Vikang
+Behold, the identity of the anti-nord poster.
+--- 14903802
+>>14901230 (OP)
+--- 14903803
+>>14902584
+>>40% of them clustering in england
+>WE WUZ EFFECTIVELY
+Who wuz? idgi
+--- 14903805
+>>14903794
+Spaniards arguably don't exist even now, let alone in the 800s. Even the biggest group - the Castilians - only emerged many centuries later.
+--- 14903806
+>>14903614
+>>14903697
+British celts are not celts. Irish are (and before great migrations during the middle ages triggered by normans connecting britain to the continent) were, pure bell beakers.
+What icelanders took as slaves and mixed with were bell beakers. Not "celts" nor modern irish people
+--- 14903808
+>>14903801
+I just like calling them vikangz because it gits. Nothing against them.
+ I call mexicans mexikangz too.
+--- 14903813
+>>14903806
+The word "Celt" simply has to be understood to mean something else in the context of that time period and place, like "Latin" in the context of the Americas.
+--- 14903815
+>>14903803
+Anglos wuz vikingz
+--- 14903816
+>>14903805
+Then some variant of nothern hispano-roman. Of germanic descent obviously but the difference between the goths and their subjects was dissapearing rapidly.
+--- 14903819
+>>14903614
+>>14903697
+fuck off celtlarper
+--- 14903823
+>>14903808
+Fits*
+--- 14903848
+>>14903819
+So you've debunked me by proving my point? The chart literally shows that icelanders are the scandis that are the most closest to celts (Scots and irish). Keep coping. Iceland is a celto-germanic land.
+--- 14903849
+>>14903815
+>Anglos wuz vikingz
+fr fr no cap?
+--- 14903855
+>>14903848
+Give it enough time and the germans would've been outcompeted bh inuit I bet. Without mainland help I mean.
+--- 14903859
+>>14903855
+And I'm not shitposting I genuinely believe in a long enough timescale the inuit would have discovered iceland and displaced the norse dirt people.
+--- 14903869
+>>14903859
+Inuits were weak. They had no fighting prowess or the spirit of a warrior.
+--- 14903885
+>>14903869
+They wiped out the tunit and the only thing preventing from enacting total injun death was population size. They were (and are) ciolent as fuck. A battle against the isolated and poor islanders would be a fair fight and with some inventiveness maybe one they'd win.
+--- 14903889
+>>14903848
+Celts never existed
+--- 14903890
+>>14903885
+Violent?
+--- 14903892
+>>14903890
+Yes, myself, you sausage fingered faggot.

his/14901694.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901694
+>both are first world industrialized wealthy countries with access to all of modernity 
+>Italy remains, somewhat, Catholic and the Church retains a strong presence in national culture and identity
+>Scandinavians all become almost 90% atheist, Christianity is outright mocked and rejected as "foreign" despite zealous Lutheranism having been their standard for 300 years 
+What gives? Im genuinely fascinated by this social phenomenon. Why don't Italians reject Christianity as being an inherent aspect of their culture, but northern Euros outright dislike what was the faith of their great grandparents?
+--- 14901698
+protestantism developed a culture of challenging existing religion, catholicism didn't
+--- 14901728
+>>14901694 (OP)
+christianity is completely dead in italy
+--- 14901741
+>>14901694 (OP)
+>>14901728
+Christianity is only in the south. The average northern Italian is either prot or atheist but the southern Italian attends church service at least 13 times per day
+--- 14901761
+Religiousness seems to spiral the wealthier and more educated you are.
+
+Big exceptions in my mind are the mormons
+--- 14901763
+>>14901694 (OP)
+to be fair anon the pope literally lives in their peninsula. There are towns with 3000 people in Italy with fuck huge cathedrals. It's hard to not be aware of the catholic church in these circumstances. Meanwhile what actual presence has Lutheranism had since the 1600s? Fucking nothing.
+--- 14901771
+>>14901694 (OP)
+It's because Lutheranism was a German sect whereas the Catholic Church is universal. Lutheranism is inherently pro-Germany, the Church is pro-Christ. Protestantism is only a few hundred years old, it played no major role in the history of Nords. Italy was one Roman under the Roman Church.
+--- 14901773
+>>14901741
+>The average northern Italian is either prot or atheist
+Never heard of Protestant Lombards.
+--- 14901870
+>>14901773
+Probably don't exist but if they do it's someone in alto adyge or the Aosta valley.
+--- 14901959
+>>14901771
+>, it played no major role in the history of Nords
+Literally all of modern Scandinavian History until like 1950 occured when they were Lutheran.
+It's also not really a big jump from Germany to Scandinavia lol, the languages are very VERY easy to learn for each other and most Swedish kings spoke German fluently
+--- 14901967
+Because Catholicism is the true church and protestantism is a heresy
+--- 14901972
+>>14901694 (OP)
+think it has more to do with the fact the catholic churches main HQ is in Italy ever since it was officially founded
+--- 14901987
+>>14901959
+>modern
+>history
+--- 14902008
+>>14901741
+christianity is completely dead in south italy
+--- 14902347
+>>14902006
+The bottom looks more noble
+--- 14902382
+>>14901694 (OP)
+Italy is sort of favela thuggish culturally + the Vatican is literrally inside. Compare with spain instead and you notice more or less the same pattern. Spaniards are atheists if not militant anti-christians nowadays. Particullary women.
+--- 14902654
+>>14901694 (OP)
+They had reasons
+--- 14903642
+>>14901987
+You do know that "modern era" generally refers to the 1600s onwards, right
+--- 14903673
+>>14901694 (OP)
+Because Christianity in Northern Europe is just an instrument of the state for cultural control. From the early 1900s on there was a period of transition in which Lutheranism was replaced by some vague form of liberal progressivism that was later supplemented by multiculturalism, but Scandinavians remain as obedient and robodic as ever, which is particularly clear in the case of Sweden at least until recently.
+--- 14903711
+>>14903673
+They were cool when they did eugenics.

his/14901702.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901702
+Is it a grave sin to make your wife wear clothes like this in public because it pleases you? I'm asking in terms of Christianity 
+
+I know it's not a sin to make her wear these clothes at home. But I feel nothing if she wears them at home.
+--- 14901705
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Yes you degenerate coombrain
+--- 14901706
+Is making other men want to fuck your girl cuckoldry or chadery?
+--- 14901716
+>>14901705
+There's no point in these clothes at home. They'll just come off in like 5 minutes anyway. Outside I can't take them off so I would get to see her in them for a long time which would be good.
+
+>>14901706
+I'm not really thinking of others. I think I get turned on when she's just doing normal stuff while wearing them
+--- 14901720
+No, actually if you truly fear god u must do it.
+After all if you dont feel constantly aroused by your wife u will not make decent sex with her and according to Saint Peter
+God will be mad at you and he will not listen to your prayers
+So no sex = no forgiveness
+--- 14901721
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Company I work for did a whole house remodel for a couple that had just moved into the state half a year ago. The woman dressed not unlike this around us all the time for the two months. Whether you let or make them, well it couldn't be me brother.
+--- 14901725
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Yes it is because you are causing others to sin. And that is a very bad one.
+--- 14901734
+>>14901725
+How am I causing others to sin?
+
+>>14901720
+That sounds good to me
+--- 14901737
+>>14901725
+>causing others to sin.
+
+Dont understand the basic doctrine of sin
+--- 14901738
+>>14901734
+>How am I causing others to sin?
+Having your wife wear immodest clothes so others lust after her.
+--- 14901744
+>>14901702 (OP)
+How do you get a wife who both looks good in those clothes and is willing to wear them in public?
+--- 14901751
+>>14901706
+it's alpha behavior because you treat her like your pet/object
+--- 14901805
+>>14901744
+I dunno it's tough.
+--- 14901915
+>>14901805
+--- 14901925
+This is pretty hot if you make your partner do this but is it a sin if there's no external intentions?
+--- 14901929
+>>14901925
+--- 14901932
+>>14901925
+LMFAO
+--- 14901936
+>>14901929
+This is more tame of course.
+--- 14902527
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Ask your priest
+--- 14903068
+>>14901936
+She cuter here
+--- 14903078
+Only a cuckold allows her to dress like that in public, instead of exclusively around you
+--- 14903080
+>>14901702 (OP)
+i know a guy that did that and is a tranny now.
+--- 14903092
+>>14901702 (OP)
+>is it a grave sin
+Not grave but it's against the general principles of modesty and prudery, and in general a sin of vanity and mildly scandalous in nature (inducing lust in other men).
+Anyways I think it's an error if Christians get overtly obsessed over this shit. Grave sins are whole another breed and to get disproportionately affected by these minor sins put Christians in a bad light.
+--- 14903097
+>>14901702 (OP)
+all women are whores
+--- 14903100
+>>14901936
+>>14901929
+>hot girl
+lol
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Try not to be a coomer but if you are a coomer and can't help it keep it to yourself.
+--- 14903118
+>>14903080
+What did he do?
+--- 14903206
+>>14903092
+No, it is a grave sin. 
+
+27 You have heard that it was said to them of old: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
+28 But I say to you, that whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery with her in his heart.
+
+Jesus is saying here that adultery of the heart is internally morally equivalent (having the same effect on the soul) as adultery committed in reality, and by allowing your wife to dress like a slut in public you are leading other men into this grave sin, thus gravely sinning yourself.
+--- 14903214
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Yes
+--- 14903222
+>>14901734
+>How am I causing others to sin?
+"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife" is literally right there in the Ten Commandments, anon.
+
+You are actively trying to get other men to covet your wife, so you're encouraging sin.
+--- 14903301
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Literal cuck.
+--- 14903320
+>>14903206
+>equivalent (having the same effect on the soul) as adultery committed in reality
+No it's not. He said "in her heart", and not to detract the fact it is indeed a sin and one should ask forgiveness but sins range in severity. A carnal adultery is still way more severe than the thought.
+>by allowing your wife
+if you live under a legislation where you can't impose a dress code on your wife, you reproached her and she continues to do it it's on her.
+--- 14904008
+>>14903301
+Absolutely no cucking
+--- 14904135
+>>14901702 (OP)
+Only is you don't let her have sex with random men afterward
+--- 14904145
+>>14904135
+Is public sex forbidden?
+--- 14904185
+>>14901751
+Yea you’re totally alpha when your skimpy clothed girl eye fucks me
+--- 14904574
+>>14904185
+But you don't get to touch
+--- 14904646
+>>14901702 (OP)
+>Is it a grave sin...
+Not only that, but it's against basic common sense, be it Christian or heathen. What the hell is wrong with you cumbrains?!

his/14901748.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901748
+Do you ever think about what bygone historical periods were "like?" We can pin down so much detail with archaeology and history, we know all these facts, but what were people LIKE. I feel like historians rarely talk about this directly, at most their personal "feel" for it just comes out indirectly in their writing. On the other hand, historical fiction writers have to have a "feel" for what it was "like," because they're not just describing details, they're making the whole setting come to life. But most of the time they do this by making the people "basically like us, but a little different" (if that makes sense). 
+
+It seems like historians default to that perspective a lot too. They make the reasonable assumption that Old Kingdom Egyptians were just ordinary people too, like us, with similar issues like work and family problems. Like we can see in the Heqanakht papyri, everyday mundane stuff that we can identify with. 
+
+But I can never get over how different the ancients seem in spite of this. Sure they were similar in a lot of surface ways, they're human. But what if they really did, for example, go around talking and thinking "like" the way they do in the official records and narratives we have? What if people in the Bronze Age had a fundamentally different consciousness, like some kind of Sapir-Whorf type of thing, but even deeper than that? 
+
+Sometimes I get flashes of almost feeling like I can directly access what a past era was "like" in this subtle way, but I can never hold onto them.
+--- 14901846
+Thats a interesting notion OP. Its unfortunately something we will never experience because it is a 'feeling' you get when you're in a place and space. You can extensively research something but until you physically experience it you will never get that feel.
+
+I personally feel any ancient society would have a vastly different feeling to ours. Their lifestyle and points of reference are so far removed from ours it would be unrecognisable apart from human essentials like eating.
+--- 14902487
+>>14901748 (OP)
+No
+--- 14903143
+>>14901748 (OP)
+>We can pin down so much detail with archaeology and history, we know all these facts
+Lmao
+--- 14903151
+>>14901748 (OP)
+They were like this
+>strong violent men got pussy and respect in their local communities
+>weak men like you got bullied or killed and got crumbs of pussy
+If you want more info about past societies let me know
+--- 14903336
+>>14901748 (OP)
+Iliad was written because some noblemen or basileis or wathever wanted the figure of the aristocracy and its values to be depicted for posterity (the oral story is older) so you could argue greek best men and heroes were basically sadistic uncontrolled infant-minded giga-chads
+--- 14904368
+>>14903336
+That's what Tuchman says about them and about medieval Normans too
+--- 14904422
+>>14901748 (OP)
+Then there is EaNasir and his bad copper...
+--- 14904524
+>>14901846
+>Its unfortunately something we will never experience because it is a 'feeling' you get when you're in a place and space.
+You can. Just interact with people from different culture. Interacting with Eskimos, nomadic Mongolians, untouched Amazon tribes or Muslims probably wouldn't feel so different to compared to their counterparts in both behavior and mentality

his/14901844.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901844
+What causes this? Why are the Welsh so dead set on speaking their native tongue while other Celtic regions mostly speak English? It seems like it would be the other way around seeing as they've been under English occupation longer.
+--- 14901849
+welshmen are based. anyway look at that percentage, that's all hicks
+--- 14901926
+>>14901844 (OP)
+ironically its the welsh's early capitulation to the english that created the conditions for their language to be preserved the way it has been. both scotland and ireland historically were much more rebellious than wales, which was fully conquered by the middle of the 12th century, and england as a result sent way more of their settlers to their lands to both create a base of english support there and to quell their rebelliousness. wales was generally left alone for much of its history, unlike scotland or ireland which were host to numerous wars with the english over the years. that combined with the fact that during the dal riata and anglo saxon period the brythonic speaking celts in scotland and england were driven into wales, thus making it a very densely populated welsh speaking area made it fertile ground for the preservation of their ancient tounge.
+--- 14902258
+>>14901844 (OP)
+Based Welshmen
+--- 14902268
+>>14901844 (OP)
+They speak it in Patagonia... they even celebrate Eisteddfodd or however it's spelled. Mostly in small towns tho.
+--- 14902276
+>>14902268
+its always a riot when a Patagonian visits wales and speaks their own version of the language. its different but still intelligible, like a patois
+--- 14902280
+>>14901844 (OP)
+tounge and the welsh identity because unlike scots and irish they didnt chimp out every 25/50 years with indipendence ambitions. So It became a minority language spontaneously as more and more Welsh willingly switched to english for social elevation
+--- 14902305
+>>14902276
+That's fascinating. About a decade ago, Chubut Province made Welsh an official language and there's a push to preserve it. I hope they keep their language.
+--- 14902337
+>>14902305
+well argentina is in good hands because other than hebrew welsh is the example for a successful language revival. welsh has increased as a language in terms of numbers year on year for decades. in terms of percentage of the population not as much, but wales gets a lot of english pensioners and migrants which dilutes their numbers and explains that specific statistic. still, its promising stuff
+--- 14902362
+Welsh are Germanic, not Celtic. Especially southern Wales/Welsh Lallands is Anglo
+--- 14902632
+>>14901844 (OP)
+Based Welsh
+--- 14902696
+>>14902362
+Why'd you use the Scots word for lowlands?
+--- 14902830
+>>14902696
+Because his cuck country is forced to revive a dead language (Scottish Gaelic) in attempts to grasp at identity, as opposed to just accepting Scots as the new Scottish norm.
+--- 14902837
+I hate when languages get extinct
+--- 14902848
+>>14902337
+Interesting stuff... appreciate the info. Cheers.
+--- 14902879
+>>14901844 (OP)
+Welsh is the only one of these languages which will survive and thats because people speak it for reasons which aren't just simple spite of the English
+--- 14903324
+>>14902848
+dont mention it fren
+--- 14903400
+https://youtu.be/h_sTCoUQ534 [Embed]
+Thank SpongeBob. Srsly, the Welsh have done a good job of preserving trad culture while integrating modern media.
+--- 14903511
+>>14901844 (OP)
+Welsh were conquered fairly early and the Englsh gave them a hell of a lot more respect than they did to the Irish or Scots. The king who conquered the Welsh named his son to be "Prince of Wales" as a sign of respect. Also as the Welsh didn't constantly rebel like the Irish, they felt no need to constantly create laws to curb Welsh culture and langauge.
+--- 14903587
+>>14903511
+The Welsh were never conquered, they were just ignored until their Royal Line unified the two nations and the Welsh never attempted a separation after the unification.
+Wales was notoriously independent into the high middle ages with the Marcher Lords in a constant vigil against the Welsh tribes.
+
+Wales is a small country, very tiny, but there are more castles in Wales than in any other country, the reason being the Norman/Anglo-Normans could not go more than 2 miles without being stomped on by Welsh tribals wielding stone tipped spears and clubs.
+The Welsh BVLLs were too strong to fully subdue and so the castles became necessary as the Welsh were never skilled at siegefare.
+The Romans famously said in their dealings with the Silurae they were the only barbarians who defeat a Legion head on and also the only barbarians who would become demoralized by a chest high wall.
+--- 14903604
+English is a native language of Scotland
+If it isn't then the majority of England don't speak their native language either as they're all also using a descendent of the West Saxon dialect and not Northumbrian/Mercian etc 
+Ireland is basically just one city, Dublin... and that city has been English speaking for 800 years
+--- 14903609
+>>14903587
+>The Welsh were never conquered, they were just ignored until their Royal Line unified the two nations and the Welsh never attempted a separation after the unification.
+Holy cope. Edward I conquered the entirety of Wales. Including Gwynedd. After Llywelyn ap Gruffudd died there was no hope for the Welsh to resist. 
+Yes even with all the attacks on the Normans, the Welsh still lost in the end. There is a reason why the English CONQUEST of Wales is dubbed as a CONQUEST.
+--- 14903613
+>>14902830
+He isn't from Scotland little autist
+--- 14903648
+>>14903587
+celtlarper back at it again
+please stop pretending you belong to an ancient people that never existed. stop saving pictures of rugby players to your computer
+--- 14903717
+>>14903604
+Language isn’t ethnicity. 
+The Scottish are Celtic.
+They speak English so they can insult the Mongrel dogs in the only intelligible the average Germanic understands, otherwise they’d have to get their hounds to translate humanspeak into base Germanic.
+>>14903609
+Nope. He established the marcher lords before being cucked to death by Celts.
+The Marcher lords existed because the English could not subdue the Welsh. 
+If the Welsh were subdued, they wouldn’t require a perpetual garrison of tens of thousands of men and hundreds of Castles.
+Wales was more heavily guarded than England itself kek. 
+>conquest
+It’s called a conquest because there is no other term for 1000 year military occupation.
+But the Welshman = unconquerable.
+Wales only ended the occupation with the Tudors, a Welsh dynasty that lorded over England and set the stage for the English Civil War. 
+A Welsh Celt has been on the throne of England more recently than any Anglo Saxon.
+>>14903648
+Whoever it was living along the Atlantic coast who didn’t speak Germanic, does not cluster with Germanics, and whom Germanic men referred to as “foreigner” and “master”, that is who I am, the great spirit of the West who will push the Germanimals back into Asia.
+--- 14903742
+>>14903717
+""""celts""" are genetically germanic
+You are a pathetic homosexual LARPer
+--- 14903965
+>19%
+>dead set
+I should add the 2021 census has the numbers down to 538,000 speaks (17.8% IIRC)
+if you're asking why it relatively speaking is in better condition compared to Gaelic I would say it's because Wales from the 1500s on was remarkably free of unrest, especially on the scale that the Scots and Irish would have towards the English crown. In contrast to Scotland where episcopacy proved so controversial or the Irish loyalty to Rome, Anglicanism was the majority religion from its propagation into the mid 18th century, and by the time the nonconformist movement exploded in Wales in the mid 18th to 19th century it coincided with an increased willingness to tolerate nonconformism/catholicism. 
+Similarly there's no events spurring emigration a la the Great Famine/the Acts of Settlement and Plantations, the Highland Clearances, the retributions post Jacobite Risings etc.
+Mass education and the prestige of English were devastating to Welsh just as they were to the others, but compared to the others it had a stronger foundation that has meant a slower decline. nonetheless for all the modern state support I expect it to slowly decline into irrelevancy beyond the diehards.
+--- 14904060
+>>14903742
+Not guy but what am I? Ancestry is all Welsh but have basically black hair, very dark eyes, dark defined eyebrows/dark long eyelashes, small nose, etc. Get told a lot I could pass for Spanish or Italian. I'm what, a representative of some neolithic farmer phenotype?

his/14901897.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901897
+Ok let’s settle this one and for all. Was the American civil war about slavery?
+--- 14901900
+>>14901897 (OP)
+State's rights included right to slavery. If it wasn't slavery, there probably would've been some other issue in the far future similar to it.
+--- 14902328
+>>14901897 (OP)
+The South left the union because it felt it no longer had the representation at the national level to prevent slavery from being abolished. The primary legal question at the heart of the war was whether states have the right to unilaterally seceded from the union. If you answer yes, then even if you don't like why the South left, they were free to leave if they so chose too. If you answered no, then the federal government had every right in using force to preserve the Union.
+--- 14902342
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Americans are bloodlust sadists and they cover it with a superhero larp. They will always claim to fight to protect someone else. For the childrens. The blacks. The oppresed incubator curds. They think if they smear their opponent first then they can just kill them.
+--- 14902672
+>>14901897 (OP)
+Maybe
+--- 14902686
+>>14902328
+*would not continue to have at some point in the future
+They certainly had the legislative power before the war broke out, they just saw the writing on the wall and decided it was unacceptable.
+--- 14902926
+>>14901897 (OP)
+To summarize, yes. Particularly slavery in the western territories. This really isn’t even debated that much in academia anymore, because the evidence is pretty overwhelming. Of course you have your guys like dilorenzo who I unironically think writes what he does because he knows it’s an easy paycheck. And your libertarians who want to make everything about taxes, and your hair splitters who want to say that secession caused the war, not slavery. Which is like arguing the Titanic sunk because it had a hole in it, not because it hit an iceberg.
+
+>>14901900
+The South never gave a fuck about states until the shoe was on the other foot. It’s just some retarded shit confederate leaders said after the war to appear less like assholes to the rest of the world.
+--- 14904147
+>>14901897 (OP)
+yay
+>>14902672
+nay
+--- 14904207
+>>14901897 (OP)
+No, it was about the JEW.
+--- 14904329
+>>14901900
+The South had no issue shitting on the rights of the northern states with the Fugitive Slave Act. They didn't give a fuck about states' rights, what mattered to them was maintaining their power within Congress.

his/14901913.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901913
+>Anglo-Saxon Huscarl, Battle of Hastings, 1066
+--- 14901917
+>Mounted Knight, Siege of Jerusalem, 1244
+--- 14901923
+>English Longbowman, Battle of Agincourt, 1415
+--- 14901928
+>Yorkist Man-at-Arms, Battle of Bosworth Field, 1485
+--- 14901973
+Why the dice?
+--- 14902538
+>>14901913 (OP)
+Cool stuff
+--- 14902562
+>>14901973
+To farm groschen in the taverns obviously.
+--- 14903588
+>>14901973
+because being a soldier has always meant extreme boredom for 99% of the time, since the dawn of age
+--- 14904015
+Very cool!
+--- 14904027
+>>14901913 (OP)
+>>14901917
+>>14901923
+Gambesons are kino, I wish more DnD inspired settings would incorporate them
+--- 14904059
+Why is early medieval clothing for the Germanics so fucking neat? I love the tunic, trousers and legwrap+boot combo. Frankish hosen look so fucking homo.

his/14901978.txt

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+-----
+--- 14901978
+>The HQ of Sedevacantism is some dozen-member Waco-tier cult in a trailer park. 
+OHNONO SEDEBROS I THOUGHT WE WERE A GLOBAL MOVEMENT
+--- 14901998
+Brother Dimond would kick your ass in a debate.
+--- 14902552
+>>14901978 (OP)
+Dude
+--- 14902575
+SOVL
+this place has more of God's grace in it than a hundred post-Vatican II churches
+--- 14902985
+>>14901978 (OP)
+>seethe vacant tits
+are they just tranny mannabe masons?
+--- 14902997
+Brother Hard Ass Diamonds will kick your ass forever to Hell, Ortho and Baptist bros.
+--- 14903703
+What do they eat?
+--- 14903727
+It just makes me wonder why they don't affiliate with an actual practicing sede church, you know with priests and deacons and site built structures 
+
+There's even sede convents and schools in the US
+It makes you wonder if they're schizos among schizos
+--- 14903732
+>>14902997
+>Ortho
+Satan's pupil brother "hard as diamonds" will rape him to death before that happens, sedefag.
+--- 14903860
+>>14903732
+weird homoerotic fantasy

his/14902012.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902012
+Was Ted a libertarian
+--- 14902016
+No Ted's just a really typical far-right reactionary
+--- 14902019
+>>14902016
+Okay but what does right mean here?
+What does he have in common with fascism?
+--- 14902023
+>>14902012 (OP)
+No, cause libs usually approve of tech and industrialisation
+--- 14902088
+>>14902019
+Far-right reactionary means that he triggers any retard who believes in a mechanized utopia.
+The first post is a practical example of assmad progressive.
+--- 14902153
+>>14902012 (OP)
+>>14902088
+Pretty much every contemporary political ideology is talking about how post-industrial society should be structured, he argued that it shouldn't exist. I don't think you'll have much luck with normal political labels. He was a reactionary in technical sense that he wanted to reverse a change in society, but the people we generally use that term for aren't interested in reversing the industrial revolution
+--- 14902249
+>>14902012 (OP)
+
+He was for in theory what Pol Pot put into practice. I.e. a revolutionary Luddite
+--- 14902627
+>>14902012 (OP)
+He was schizophrenic
+--- 14903467
+>>14902019
+it means he was a schizo retard
+--- 14903700
+>>14902019
+At this point in the degeneration of civilisation 'LE RITE WANG!!!!!!' just means 'a person I disagree with and want to ignore without considering anything they're thinking/saying/doing'. It's another thought terminating cliche.
+--- 14903705
+>>14902012 (OP)
+
+No because the only way to implement his ideas would be with a very strong government telling people what to do.
+--- 14903757
+>>14902019
+Did you read the first few pages? The first thing he put in the thing is a critique of leftist psychology and activist
+--- 14903777
+also green politics and ecofascism would be some good things to read about 
+you need context for everything don’t be delusional

his/14902015.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902015
+fat buu = mao
+super buu = stalin
+kid buu = pol pot
+--- 14902028
+Goku = Hitler
+Vegeta = Mussolini 
+Piccolo = Codreanu 
+Frieza = Stalin 
+Cell = Jews
+Chiaotzu = OP
+--- 14902059
+>>14902028
+What about Franco?
+--- 14902181
+>>14902015 (OP)
+Base Super Buu, Buutenks and Buuhan should be distinguished, as should Evil Buu. Babidi = German communist party?
+--- 14902205
+>>14902028
+this makes sense
+--- 14902611
+>>14902015 (OP)
+Jewish
+--- 14903499
+>>14902028
+makes a lot of sense, since cell is an amalgamation of most characters in dbz it cant represent a single person but instead a group
+--- 14904198
+Stalin is misunderstood. He did a great job of defending the communist system, and he also provided many important theoretical contributions to the revolution. In my eyes, he is an idealistic revolutionary who never lost his devotion to Marxism.

his/14902065.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902065
+Christians have an ideological interest in pushing the dates of New Testament documents back as far as possible. But new research shows they've been fudging the numbers. 
+
+https://youtu.be/hoDAj7_1MbA [Embed]
+--- 14902079
+>>14902065 (OP)
+Based on what proof ?
+--- 14902127
+>>14902065 (OP)
+>Carrier
+Hilarious it's him of all people accusing others of having an agenda
+--- 14902570
+>>14902065 (OP)
+Yes
+--- 14902618
+>>14902065 (OP)
+Not surprising. Heres a great video on the topic
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGHOp-9yAbA [Embed]
+--- 14902955
+OP is a faggot
+--- 14902957
+>>14902065 (OP)
+Correct.
+>>14902955
+And you're a retard.
+--- 14902990
+I have reached Gnosis
+--- 14903525
+>>14902065 (OP)
+Anti-christians have lowered themselves to trusting literal jews to own le christians
+--- 14903896
+>>14902065 (OP)
+This is the guy that unironically claimed Jesus was gay.
+--- 14903921
+>>14903525
+You don't have to "trust" anyone. Just look at paucity of evidence for a historical Jesus. There's jack shit. Just a dude who says he talked to a "brother of the lord" which could mean anything and a story about a magic Jew written half a century later that isn't even remotely believable.
+--- 14904197
+>>14903921
+>deflect and continue attacking
+Funny how you're such an antisemite when it suits you to attack THE cultural and moral pillar of europeans but then turn around and believe what a kike vermin says without a shadow of a doubt.

his/14902121.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902121
+What was the purpose of self disembowlment when they get their head cut off moments later? Why is it considered suicide if another person is acting as executioner?
+--- 14902139
+>>14902121 (OP)
+Because its voluntary, idiot. The other person is just helping them its like assisted suicide
+--- 14902595
+>>14902121 (OP)
+Japanese honor culture
+--- 14903610
+>>14902121 (OP)
+The beheader was supposed to be a trusted friend of the beheaded. They waited until the person appeared to be incapable of cutting further and then did the chop before they fell over or something. It made the whole thing feel cleaner. It was shameful to the person if you couldn’t get the decapitation right, so they’d really practice for it.
+
+The act of seppuku typically wasn’t truly voluntary but was a way for a samurai to show they accepted death by their own hands rather than having to be killed by someone else. If they refused, they’d be executed anyway but in a less honorable way.
+--- 14904649
+https://youtu.be/HvRP3BIwexU [Embed]
+--- 14904814
+>>14902121 (OP)
+It's a mercy kill after the lethal blow has already been struck by the practioner through their resolve.

his/14902200.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902200
+Why did Europe progress past the medieval era in terms of science and technology, while the rest of the world sort of just stagnated?
+--- 14902518
+>>14902200 (OP)
+colonizing the Americas I guess, that continent has everything oil, animals, plants, rivers and gold, it doesn't get any better
+--- 14902526
+>>14902518
+Spain and portugal stagnated still
+--- 14902541
+>>14902518
+>oil,
+Not much more than lets say mena
+>animals
+Not more than south asia or africa. None domestic except llamas
+>plants
+There is some good crops and stuff in america true.
+>rivers
+Not particullary good or bad
+>gold
+This was relevant probably... but the parts of europe that more developed (england, france, germany) barely got any gold from Americas 
+
+Plantations and cotton, vanilla, tobacco, other luxury stuff selling + potato and other crops may be the best exchange
+--- 14902556
+>>14902526
+Spain and Portugal don't have the power to exploit, lie and rob a whole continent and a race of people. jews, Anglos and the French do that, and they benefited the most from it, that's why they were always superior to Russia and Germany
+--- 14902590
+>>14902541
+Well dose mena have plants or animals? Or dose south Asia have oil? The Americas basically has everything even if they are only superior in the things you mentioned like tobacco, cotton, sugar and other crops.
+--- 14902621
+>>14902590
+>Well dose mena have plants or animals
+MENA is quite diverse climatically. Iran or the mesopotamian/levant area definitely do.
+South asia as well, pakistan has a good deal of oil, biodiversity, rivers, etc.
+Same with north india in general.
+I think most of it traces to specific plantation systems of certain goods for trade rather than america being resourceful for settlers
+--- 14902629
+>>14902200 (OP)
+Europe is a heavily balkanized penninsula with easy access to the ocean and geography that allows states to form in relative isolation from eachother. This created a highly competitive enviornment ran by aristocrats who needed to defend their wealth. Only the ones with the most powerful militaries were able to defend it. The very concept of military intelligence arose from this enviornment. European powers like Britain realized having extensive knowledge of your enemies positions and infrastructure was key to winning wars. They then began commissioning agents to conduct research, gathering data and logging the local enviornments. This further developed into modern sciences and engineering.
+--- 14902658
+>>14902556
+>Spain and Portugal don't have the power to exploit, lie and rob a whole continent and a race of people
+lol, portugal traded the most slaves, had most plantation systems, had one of the last colonies in america to ban slavery, and exterminated natives fair and left
+Spain genocided a entire race and groomed the other half, put 50% in forced labour camps called encomiendas and haciendas where people had a bizarre mortality rate. Extingished the 38 million population of the inca empire and exploited it to death like it did with tainos sending them to work like dogs non stop with barely any payment for subsistence into silver mines, erradicated the aztec empire and stole insane ammount of gold that made it back to the peninsula.
+Raped, destroyed cultures, enslaved. The sole reason black slaves started arriving the Peru was that spain managed to decimate a 38M population so far they couldnt get more workforce for their mines, created oligarchic drug dealing feuds and broken states, everything with a colonial infrastructure meant to discriminate and create economic dependence to the extent modern natives still underrepresented in countries with 80% native populations in south america.
+The whole religious indoctrination they started was because the pope gave them that condition after they exterminated tainos just to accumulate more political power and they needed to be fine because the pope granted lands.
+
+Not only spain is one of the most evil states to ever exist. They are also a fucking shame for anything. No scientists. No first world countries. No inventions
+--- 14902864
+>>14902200 (OP)
+The Renaissence. Coupled with exploring the world. It's not so much the stuff you get from overseas like spices or tobacco but the knowledge you get of geography, navigation, astronomy, geology, natural sciences, anatomy of niggers and mexicans, etc and the impact of assimilating that you are not alone in Europe and all these fascinating strange brown, black and yellow new worlds are yours to take. That's the good stuff. You learn. It was the equivalent of building a quantum supercomputer. Input spices, input maximize profit by time of travelling and cost of feeding negros. What? Does not compute?. Someone invent advanced mathemathics pls? Thanks Leibniz and Newton. Now, where were we? Input indios, maximize gold, times galleon, compute hurricane season, gib solution, it works!. 
+
+Meanwhile everybody else was in the medieval age or in the stone age watching the same shit every single fucking day. Input banan, solution monke. They unlearn.
+--- 14902873
+Europa got out of the barbarian middle ages thanks to Italians. Greco Latin civilization has always been there by de facto no matter what they tell you.
+--- 14902874
+>>14902200 (OP)
+Superior military tech due to prolonged warfare but also the invention of the printing press which kickstarted all the scientific movements that took place
+--- 14902892
+>>14902200 (OP)
+Western Europe didn't have to build their civilization around dealing with steppeniggers.
+--- 14903208
+>>14902556
+The british were literally irrelevant until the 1700s and the french were on the defensive with ottoman support until then lol
+--- 14903209
+>>14902892
+>huns
+>avars
+>magyars
+Also southeast asia was the most shielded region from them
+--- 14903244
+Constantinople collapsed, the west benefitted from the brain drain and exodus of intelligentsia from the eastern empire, and honestly Arabs have a lot to do with early chemistry while Rosicrucians were running around being goofy, but eventually they got their shit together
+--- 14904239
+>>14903209
+>Huns, Avars
+Pretty much ancient history to most of Western Europe by the time of the renaissance
+
+>Magyars
+Eastern European power
+
+The SEAns had some great naval powers of their own, but they had the problem of not being in a prime position for colonization.
+--- 14904418
+>>14902200 (OP)
+Genetics, resulting in superior intelligence, and other personality traits. 
+Next thread please.
+--- 14904429
+>>14902200 (OP)
+You have to remember that the Muslim "golden era" was build on the backs of Christians whose lands they plundered, if the muslism didnt invade Europe we could be living on the moon right now.
+--- 14904442
+>>14902200 (OP)
+PURELY SOCIOECONOMIC REASONS!
+--- 14904987
+Christianity

his/14902230.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902230
+Historically, wars were fought over skirts and trousers. Both were considered either manly or effeminate by opposing sides.
+--- 14902615
+>>14902230 (OP)
+What's dat nigga wearin
+--- 14902788
+imagine the smell
+--- 14902894
+>>14902230 (OP)
+look hot
+--- 14903006
+>>14902230 (OP)
+what that nigga is wearing is a ceremonial version of what real chads used to wear.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAKRffKsPs [Embed]
+--- 14903658
+>>14902230 (OP)
+That's exactly why the Greeks and Romans considered those who wore pants barbarians while the Germans and Celts themselves considered effeminate and that these are conquered/plundered from one or the other all this time from classical times to the late empire age Roman who had the superiority pants or skirts and knowing who was the winner of these there is no doubt that the pants belong to the society of the warriors of the gods / god and manhood in pure essence
+--- 14904769
+>>14903658
+>gay revisionist /his/tory

his/14902321.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,50 @@
+-----
+--- 14902321
+Did the Kingdom of Kush master electricity?
+--- 14902429
+>>14902321 (OP)
+Why are Frenchmen like this?
+--- 14902540
+>>14902429
+He's not French
+--- 14902553
+>>14902540
+Algeria is an integral and indivisible part of the fourth French Republic.
+--- 14902564
+People here don't know him but he's extremely popular in France and French speaking Africa
+He'll convert millions of negroes to We Wuz Kangz revisionism
+--- 14902576
+>>14902540
+Chud.
+--- 14902587
+>>14902553
+That's not even an Algerian
+It's explictly stated to be a nigger from the Congo
+--- 14902677
+>>14902587
+The Congolese were pharaohs and shit
+--- 14902754
+>>14902321 (OP)
+ever heard of the baghdad battery? the tech would have been there long before the kush btw
+--- 14902760
+>>14902321 (OP)
+a /sci/ bro made this btw
+https://odysee.com/@musicam-geometria-utebantur:6/pyramid-power-rap:4
+--- 14903158
+>>14902321 (OP)
+American Negro culture and its consequences.
+--- 14903221
+>>14902553
+that's a retarded meme invented to keep open a legal channel for nafris to get into France
+--- 14903236
+black people have no concept of the truth independent of what they might like to believe, they just make shit up with 0 cognitive dissonance
+--- 14903554
+>>14903236
+aren't severians known for their racism 
+I remember I like one of them got really mad at one ethiopian soldier existing
+--- 14903781
+>>14902321 (OP)
+why would scientists bother getting outraged over some random nigger?
+--- 14904131
+>>14903781
+Because millions listen to him

his/14902435.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,200 @@
+-----
+--- 14902435
+How do Atheists explain Our Lady of Guadalupe?
+--- 14902771
+>>14902435 (OP)
+Lady of Guadalupe is a divine image of the Virgin Mary, who appeared in 1531 at the base of an oak tree in the Mexican city of Guadalupe. Atheism does not explain Our Lady. This is a divine miracle.
+--- 14902775
+Mass delusion?
+Power of suggestion?
+--- 14902913
+>>14902435 (OP)
+Just another embarrassing example of catholic fraud. If the church weren't promoting these gypsy-tier scams, it would be much more respectable.
+--- 14903036
+>>14902771
+>don't allow any experts to actually touch the painting and study the material, only let them take photos 
+>ATHEISTS CAN'T EXPLAIN IT
+Wow, what an epic miracle. It's just a picture.
+--- 14903072
+>>14902913
+explain how it is a fraud
+--- 14903081
+>>14902435 (OP)
+Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
+What is more likely the laws of nature were suspended for a virgin birth. Or that a Jewish slut would tell a lie?
+--- 14903085
+>>14903072
+Because there is 0 empirical evidence for supernaturalism. It just gives people of low agency the illusion of control.
+--- 14903101
+>>14903085
+there are also 0 empirical evidence it's not supernatural and the weirdnesses of it are not explained. Like the most of the image doesn't show the use of pigments, how it hasn't decayed over the centuries etc.
+--- 14903104
+Why does the creator of existence insist on only revealing himself in the most impotent ways?
+--- 14903110
+>>14902435 (OP)
+you don't have to be an atheist to know that all of that is bullshit
+--- 14903116
+>>14902435 (OP)
+How do cuckolics explain the supernatural events of other religions?
+--- 14903122
+>>14903104
+because He hates the arrogant and the powerful, and he reveals Himself to the poor and the sick. If you'd read the Bible you would know this.
+--- 14903127
+>>14903122
+>because He hates the arrogant and the powerful, and he reveals Himself to the poor and the sick. If you'd read the Bible you would know this.
+How convenient for you, more likely the illiterate and stupid. Just like the deluded bronze age inhabitants of Palestine.
+The whole story is pathetic and contemptible, the idea that a human sacrifice of a guy who was supposed to be also god thousands of years ago absolves me of my sins is laughable and pathetic. Primitive Middle eastern scapegoating
+--- 14903130
+>>14903122
+>a sodomite abomination kills the children of his faithful in cold blood on his own ground
+>manifests his image on a tomato in Guatemala
+>TRUST THE PLAN
+--- 14903133
+>>14903122
+I dunno, the most common paternal haplogroups today are of some warrior steppe niggers who were taller and stronger than anyone around them. Seems like back then he supported the strong.
+--- 14903135
+>>14902435 (OP)
+>Whoa you mean people make up stories about shit that didn't happen? 
+Dude if that story came from a Hindu you would dismiss it.
+--- 14903138
+>>14903101
+We literally know who painted it, retard. It's not even the only painting from that time that hasn't decayed substantially, and the shit about the pigments is fake news.
+--- 14903150
+>>14903127
+>>14903130
+Seethe more future hell fuel
+>>14903133
+?
+>>14903138
+And who painted it, you refined genius?
+--- 14903153
+>>14903150
+Marcos Cipac de Aquino
+--- 14903187
+>>14903153
+Sounds like BS.
+
+>Marcos Cipac de Aquino (June 4, 1517-1572) would have been a Nahuatl Indian and a painter from New Spain in the early years of the conquest of Mexico. According to Fray Francisco de Bustamante in one of his sermons, he referred to the miraculous image of the Virgin painted by "Marcos the Indian" without mentioning his last name. The same name "Marcos Cipac de Aquino" is not recorded in any document or writing from the colonial period (1521-1821). Bernal Díaz del Castillo mentions a "Marcos de Aquino", the indigenous chronicler Juan Bautista mentions a "Marcos Cipac" in his historical annals. Bustamante says "Marcos", and only he associates that mysterious Indian with the image of Guadalupe. It has not even been proven that "Marcos de Aquino" and "Marcos Cipac" are the same, and it has not been proven that he or any of them was the Indian to whom Bustamante was referring. On the other hand, Bustamante's sermon mentioning "Marcos" was known only in 1888. Before that year no one ever mentioned "Marcos" in relation to the Virgin of Guadalupe. Therefore, it is possible that the Indian Marcos did not exist as such
+--- 14903191
+>>14903153
+yeah thank you retard
+--- 14903193
+>>14903187
+Sounds less like BS than the idea that a painting of Mary made in a contemporary style suddenly appeared in some colonial shithole as a miracle.
+--- 14903195
+>>14903193
+I don't give a shit about this debate, I'm not the guy you were arguing with, just pointing out I just googled the stuff you mentioned and it's total bullshit.
+--- 14903198
+>>14902435 (OP)
+not an atheist but
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia?wprov=sfla1
+Also, it is fact that the current painting WAS painted on the original image so we dont exactly know what original image looked like before the colouring and retouches.
+So, weak arguement.
+--- 14903204
+>>14903150
+lol
+--- 14903207
+>>14902435 (OP)
+>>14902771
+Number of times Mary appeared in South America before the Catholic Church got there: 0
+--- 14903341
+>>14903207 why would the merciful Virgin Mary appear after some blood lusting demon-worshipping pagans?
+--- 14903349
+>>14903341
+Same reason Jesus appears on toast, I guess.
+--- 14903429
+>>14903085
+>There's 0 exclusively naturalistic evidence for a supernatural event!
+--- 14903435
+>>14903429
+>it's a christians engage in 4D sophistry instead of presenting evidence for their god episode
+--- 14903448
+>>14903429
+>there cannot be any evidence for my belief that is better than "it came to me in a dream"
+>therefore "it came to me in a dream" is a totally legitimate argument
+lmao
+absolute state
+--- 14903449
+>>14903435
+lol are you what, 14?
+--- 14903453
+>>14902435 (OP)
+
+They'll say the whole thing was a hoax to get Mexican pagans to convert to Catholicism.
+--- 14903460
+>>14903435
+>>14903448
+>Makes an absurd demand
+>Doubles down when shown to be absurd
+
+Atheists are not to be taken seriously until they are at least going to be intellectually honest.
+--- 14903480
+>>14903460
+>provide me with proof I can verify
+>what an absurd demand!
+--- 14903482
+>>14903460
+>make up an absurd belief that can only be justified by "it came to me in a dream"
+>sperg out when people don't accept "it came to me in a dream" as valid evidence
+lmao I love you schizoposters
+never take your meds, you marvelous retard
+--- 14903491
+>>14903449
+Isn't it dire that one of the greatest insults christians have is accusing their detractors of being immature as if children being able to see through their bullshit isn't a testament against their belief.
+--- 14903531
+>>14903104
+Revealing himself to the wrong people could make things worse like how the Israelites started worshipping a pagan diety thinking it was their God before Moses told them to stop or how some Christians abuse certain verses to excuse their unChristian lifestyle. God reveals himself to people who can understand him.
+--- 14903535
+>>14903531
+>God reveals himself to people who can understand him.
+Like the 3rd world and rustbelt methheads who see his face in toast. GG
+--- 14903546
+>>14903491
+you clearly have a Reddit tier knowledge of Christianity since "who are not like children can't enter the kingdom of heaven" and you keep embarrassing yourself demanding scientific proof of what by definition is outside of scientific inquiry (not measurable, not repeatable, etc.)
+Science knowledge is a subset of knowledge that limits itself to investigate only what is materialistic and quantifiable, in order to pragmatically maximize its efficacy.
+Apart from religion we live immersed in things that are not scientific: beauty, emotions, love, music, poetry, literature, psychology, and even mundane things like the design of your fucking iPhone or the plot of your shitty Netflix series.
+Attacking religion saying "it's not scientific" it's like attacking science saying "it's not beautiful".
+--- 14903551
+>>14903531
+here the US protestant heretic with political extremism in his heart
+--- 14903553
+>>14903546
+Damn bro, still no evidence....
+--- 14903565
+>someone painted Mary on a piece of cloth and its suddenly a miracle
+Lol
+--- 14903575
+>>14903546
+The problem is Christianity's own perception of their god as personal, benevolent, and all loving with the well-being of humanity in mind which is completely contradictory when observing reality.
+On the other hand, I can completely grasp the metaphysical, immaterial essence of say Wotan who expresses himself in artistic inspiration, passion, and reckless furry unconcerned with anything except the aesthetic of the act of self-sacrifice for a higher cause. Can you see why I would require evidence for the former and not the latter?
+--- 14903623
+>>14903575
+>Wotan
+straight into the garbage bin 
+>Can you see why I would require evidence for the former and not the latter?
+Yes because you're such a spine chilling chud I will repel women for a month just to have talked to you
+>reckless furry
+Freudian slip I guess ahah
+--- 14903631
+>>14903623
+4/10
+--- 14903639
+>>14902435 (OP)
+with a computer, obviously.
+--- 14903721
+>>14903341
+Why would an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent god need people to travel around the world to spread his word
+--- 14904420
+>>14903429
+There's no naturalistic or non-naturalistic evidence, just free association, hypothesis formation, and survival of said hypothesis in the market for production of statements laundered of falsehoods.
+
+Science is just systematic elimination of error, bias, fraud, wishful thinking, and deceit. All supernaturalism is an attempt to preserve an illusion of control from those with insufficient agency to produce control in the absence of it. Abrahamism is just an obvious case that preys on the particularly gullible, like all pseudoscientific doctrines do, through baiting into moral hazard by false promise of freedom from natural, physical, and evolutionary laws of the universe (freedom from responsibility). Same as communism, wokeism, postmodernism, race-denialism. No difference. Heaven/post-scarcity/equality, all the same thing.
+--- 14904611
+>>14903721
+To give us the ultimate purpose.
+--- 14904887
+>>14903081
+There's a lot of extraordinary evidence for the Tilma being authentic but even if you read all the studies you'd probably still dismiss it anyway. 
+
+>>14903135
+Can you name one equivalent of the Tilma in Hinduism?

his/14902510.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902510
+Why do chuds exaggerate how bad the Talmud is? It's really no worse than the Quran, Bible, Rig Veda, Book of Mormon or Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard
+--- 14903353
+>>14902510 (OP)
+Talmud says Jews marry 3 year olds.
+--- 14903378
+It's just polemics mainly. 
+
+The Talmud is not something you can really read through like the Bible or Quran. You actually need special training to really be able to read it let alone understand it which requires knowledge of Hebrew and Aramaic. 
+
+It's a compendium of different opinions from thousands of rabbis on Jewish oral law i.e. how to apply the Torah in daily life. 
+
+There are English translations available to read but that's such a far cry from the real Talmud. But the average Jew doesn't speak either Hebrew or Aramaic fluently so many do have the volumes of the Talmud in their native language. Vey few Jews ever read the entire thing. It takes seven years to complete it if you read just one page a day which is a practice many Hasidics do.
+--- 14903386
+>>14902510 (OP)
+--- 14903389
+>>14902510 (OP)
+It's not even equivalent to any of those texts, it's just legal and theological discussion. It's more akin to if "the Church Fathers" and things like Aquinas and whatever were collected in a single comprehensive canon. Not like the Vedas, more like the Upanishads.
+--- 14903393
+>>14902510 (OP)
+Because a huge chunk of it is debates between rabbis and other thinkers where the different sides make their case and argue over it, so anti-semites can mine the text for quotes from the different arguements made and pass them off as what all Jewish people believe even if the person arguing that point lost the debate in the next passage.
+--- 14903394
+>>14903386
+This is all based and Europeans should adopt these attitudes.
+--- 14903405
+I normally wouldnt give a shit about their schizo supremacist cult except for the fact that these people are the ones who act like they some moral pillars calling anyone who opposes them "nazis" and "white supremacists." I imagine most people feel the same way. It isn't necessarily what is in it that Jews follow and believe, it is the fact that they hide these beliefs and put on a false front showing they are nefarious actors >>14903386.
+
+The white supremes (kkk, neo nazis or w/e) tell you what they want and why, same with the nation of Islam and black panthers. I dont give a fuck about supremacist groups, they are fine to believe in whatever they want and live how they want as long as they arent fucking with anyone else. The Jews dont do this however now do they? They want to stand on their soapbox calling you a pedo while ass raping a prepubescent boys using their global media monopoly
+--- 14903410
+>>14903394
+
+>>14903405
+--- 14903411
+>>14903405
+>schizo supremacist cult
+Lol
+--- 14903424
+An easy full digitalisation of the Talmud is available here https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud to reference citations made by Stormchads. Many are genuinely real, but many are completely fabricated or just bizarrely rephrased, which is terrible practice and unnecessary. There are more than enough abhorrent statements and conclusions in the Talmud, there is no need to fabricate them.
+--- 14903444
+>>14903411
+>we were chosen by Top G
+>the rest of the people are basically cattle
+>also you can only join by blood
+>not schizo
+>not supremacist
+>not a cult
+--- 14903492
+>>14903444
+American exceptionalist also think their nation was chosen by God. This line of thinking is not unprecedented in history. Human groups tend to do this.
+--- 14903520
+A couple excerpts:
+
+>The possessions of Gentiles are limitless like a desert and any Jew who seizes it, acquires it
+>It is the job of every Jew to deceive Gentiles
+>Sexual relations with a child as young as 3 could be permissible in some cases
+>If a Jew wishes to commit a crime, he should not do so in his home town, but a few towns over where he is not known
+>If a Gentile strikes a Jew, he shall be put to death for it is the equivalent of striking YHWH himself
+>Should a Jew strike a Gentile, however, no punishment shall be levied
+>Death is the penalty for he who marries his daughter to an old man, arranges a marriage for his infant son, or teaches the Law to a Gentile
+>It does not count as adultery should a Jew have relations with the spouse of a Gentile
+>A Gentile who hires a Jew must pay him appropriately for services rendered, but a Jew does not have to pay a Gentile
+>If one has relations with a child, and the child is 9 years of age or younger, it shall not count as fornication or sodomy
+>Yeshua ben Joseph, the false prophet and messiah, is now boiling in a pot of excrement
+>Gentile marriages are not real marriages
+>If a Jew is in need of an organ transplant, it is ethical to forcibly seize a Gentile and harvest the necessary organ
+>During Yom Kippur, a Gentile infant shall be abducted and its blood spilt in offering to YHWH
+--- 14903527
+>>14903386
+I've tried to find so much of this stuff to no avail
+--- 14903529
+>>14903424
+Aren't there lots of different versions
+--- 14903532
+>>14903393
+Lol true.
+--- 14903534
+>>14903520
+Where are you finding these quotes? I am struggling
+--- 14903540
+>>14903529
+You can choose different translations in the sidebar.
+--- 14903649
+>>14902517 →
+The Talmud is not canon in the same sense that the Bible or Quran. Its a bunch of Rabbi's arguing over interpretations of the Torah. It would be like a collection of works of Church Fathers or the Hadiths.
+--- 14903666
+>>14903649
+>The Talmud is not canon in the same sense that the Bible or Quran. Its a bunch of Rabbi's arguing over interpretations of the Torah. It would be like a collection of works of Church Fathers or the Hadiths.
+this is complete bullshit. The Talmud is the central text is post Temple (Rabbinical) Judaism
+--- 14903683
+>>14903666
+Indeed, Satan, it is, insofar that it stands as a interpretation of the Tanakh and the rules prescribed therein. This is why Jews study it more carefully, because by extension they are studying the Tanakh more carefully instead of just taking it on its own. Christians do this with the Bible too like with the Church Fathers and Councils except unlike Jews the Christians haven't formally compiled all these writings into a single standard work, the closest of which is the Ante-Nicene Fathers for the Christians.
+--- 14903686
+>>14902510 (OP)
+Because they’re the enemy of God, simple as
+--- 14903702
+Jews expect special treatment in the media
+
+>haha christianity bad muzzies are terrorists
+>NO ANTISEMITE FASCIST YOU CANT POINT OUT WE MARRY THREE YEAR OLDS AND RABBIS PUT THEIR MOUTHS ON BABY DICKS NOOO
+
+My antisemitism is a revolutionary act
+--- 14903708
+>>14903492
+>whataboutism
+
+Not an argument
+--- 14903745
+>>14903708
+--- 14903751
+>>14903394
+Christianity forbids it.
+--- 14903762
+>>14902510 (OP)
+STFU JOO
+--- 14903769
+>>14903745
+Attributing the behaviour described there to communists is incorrect, not to defend them, but it is just how Russoids and Chinks are regardless of ideology.

his/14902517.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902517
+Haplocels destroyed this board
+--- 14902522
+>>14902517 (OP)
+I'm E1b1b btw
+--- 14902613
+>>14902517 (OP)
+Unfortunately
+--- 14902905
+>>14902517 (OP)
+Yeah, bunch of autistic rape coomers.
+--- 14902912
+>>14902905
+Yeah that's worse than a regular coomer
+--- 14902917
+>>14902517 (OP)
+If you're wondering, xis is the faggot whos responsible for 90% of the haploshit and race bait threads
+--- 14903784
+>>14902517 (OP)
+are you implying the hordes of "fanatical" christcucks (who are themselves have incredibly heretical beliefs) didn't have a part in it
+--- 14903797
+>>14903784
+Dilate
+--- 14903811
+>>14902517 (OP)
+Haplogroups are part of the future of the discipline as part of genetic studies of human remains generally. Written 'records' as little as 50 years ago are all made up and archaeology is even more fake somehow. Archaeogenetics are the only reliable window to the past so far.
+--- 14903919
+>>14902522
+You're E-V13 which isn't really considered part of the E1b1b family by other E1b1b carriers since you lack the Natufian genes that actually make you think, act and behave like a proper E1b1b man.
+--- 14903935
+>>14903919
+You're a nafri
+--- 14903978
+>>14903784
+Them too.
+>>14903811
+That's true, but I guess you should separate archeogenetics (both haplo and admixture) from pure haploautism.
+--- 14904049
+>>14902517 (OP)
+I don't care. I love larping as a WHG who survived the bellbeaker invasion.
+--- 14904053
+>>14903935
+You're white.
+--- 14904064
+>>14903919
+How did you know I'm E-V13
+--- 14904069
+>>14904049
+You were enslaved by us after your WHG tribe was exterminated.
+--- 14904158
+>>14904069
+>enslaved 
+Source? The remaining whg were simply too Chad to exterminate and blended in with the new steppe rapebabies.
+--- 14904337
+>>14904064
+There are a lot of people like you lol.
+
+You claim to dislike haplogroups yet you brought a DNA test to know your haplogroup so it is clear that you were interested in Y-DNA until it turned out you carried an "exotic" haplogroup.
+
+Now E1b1b is only found among Afroasiatic populations and some southern European populations that have been raped by them, since E1b1b is the founding haplogroup among AA speakers and therefore a pretigious haplogroups among them, it wouldn't make sense for a Somali, a Berber, an Arab to behave like you do, however, it would make sense for you to be a Souhtron overdosing on copium.
+--- 14904346
+>>14904158
+I2a is a tiny fraction of haplos since Yamnaya warriors exterminated them and is always a WHG slave caste since they were enslaved by steppe warriors
+--- 14904369
+>>14902517 (OP)
+There are some upsides .. like finding out Muslim males have weaker bones than black women lmao
+--- 14904411
+>E1b1b
+>E-V13
+>Natufian
+>Nafri
+>WHG
+>Rapebabies
+>Southron
+>Bellbeaker
+>Y-DNA
+>AA
+>I2A
+>Yamnaya
+>Steppe
+Why are they like this?
+--- 14904425
+>>14904411
+Zodiac signs for incels. Your haplogroup accounts for less than 1% of your ancestry.
+--- 14904519
+>>14904411
+>be southron
+>pay $500 for a BigY
+>*E-V13*
+>"h-haplogroups are irrelevant, t-they're less one percent of your DNA"
+>"y-you can be brown and european" 
+EVERY FUCKING TIME
+--- 14904531
+>>14904519
+Cope incel scum. I don't know my haplogroup because I don't give a fuck.
+I'm a Leo btw, that's way cooler.
+--- 14904537
+>>14904519
+I want to punch varg in the face
+--- 14904544
+>>14902517 (OP)
+There aren't nearly as many haplogroup threads as there are christians posting pictures of a comedian (I think) burning in feces.
+--- 14904706
+>>14904337
+>it would make sense for you to be a Souhtron overdosing on copium.
+I'm sitting on the 42nd parallel North m'boy, I'm not a SOUTHERNER
+--- 14904711
+>>14902517 (OP)
+Which haplo? R1a (me) are the CHADs of history, not "cels".
+--- 14904712
+>>14904411
+>NO FUN ALLOWED!
+--- 14904749
+>>14904519
+why would a southern european be ashamed to be e-v13, it's much more indigenous than a lot of the J2a, J1 and even some G2 clades

his/14902555.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902555
+historically speaking were Russians the only people dumb enough to create an empire whose periphery was more developed than its core?
+--- 14903218
+>>14902555 (OP)
+I think Brazil was more developed than Portugal by the time it became independent.
+--- 14903640
+>>14902555 (OP)
+
+Russian Empire was like South Africa today. where less intelligent majority rules over more intelligent minority
+--- 14903650
+>>14903218
+Brazil is also a good example of periphery development. The coastline is where 90% of people live, there used to be fucking nothing westwards
+--- 14903908
+>>14903218
+It wasn't. Even the wealthiest regions (Rio de Janeiro, the Recôncavo, Maranhão) were still underdeveloped compared to Portugal.
+--- 14903926
+>>14902555 (OP)
+The real core was Sankt-Petersburg and the Baltics, so not really. A significant part of Russian elites were Baltic Germans
+--- 14904873
+>>14902555 (OP)
+>create an empire whose periphery was more developed than its core?
+That's just what happens whenever a barbarian horde subjugates a civilized region. Typically these arrangements are not very long lived, as was the case here too.
+--- 14904908
+The periphery was the coast where trade was best. Before things like railways arrived Saint Petersburg was clearly the prime city.
+--- 14904914
+What do the runes say?

his/14902606.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902606
+Is he the savior we don't deserve?
+--- 14903398
+>>>/pol/
+--- 14903406
+yea, "savior"
+--- 14903523
+>>14902606 (OP)
+Russia was never the successor of Rome and never will be
+--- 14903582
+>>14902606 (OP)
+He islamize Russia. Do you ever been in Moscow? I live here and see a lot of Muslims everyday. Just check youtube videos of Russian metro, a lot of Muslim people here.
+
+Alse he thinks that Islam is more closer to Orthodoxy than Catholicism
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVRot6pl66k [Embed]
+
+Maybe for people who live in America all that stuff seems kind of 'based' but that's fake basedness.
+
+It's scary that almost every Western person who likes Russia usually likes the Putin. Can you be pro-Russian without this idiotic stuff? Putin is Russian Obama.
+--- 14903821
+>>14903523
+Russia is the Third Rome and always has been
+--- 14903825
+>>14902606 (OP)
+He's the perfect orthodog. Sympathizes with muslims and protects jews.

his/14902607.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902607
+Did Indians really invent everything?
+--- 14902789
+Hiring Poos is a geopolitical move.
+So far the modicum of contenders to USA are :
+-Islamic countries, which are not a commercial power, and not a military power
+-China, which is commercial power, but not a military power (the US are not a military power, just like any commercial society (the whole humanist propaganda is that military conflicts will never be serious because of deep commercial ties between countries run by oligarchs))
+-India which is not a commercial power, nor a military power. The US leftists like Bill Clinton in the 90s turned china as their new cheap commercial partner, it was all rose tinted worldview, but then by the time of the leftist Obama and even more so with TRUMP, they realized the Chinese spied on them (and by the way China made the oil price rise a lot which created the recession in 2008 (coupled with the leftist view that mortgages should be cheap so backed up by bureaucrats ie housing credits are now riskfree credits, ie bankers sell that like candy lol and get fat fees as the middleman)), so the big idea by the merchants is now to replace china with india, ie getting the indian bureaucrats to by the enormous US debt and in exchange US merchants put a few Poos in top CEO positions and recruit lots of poos working over internet from their shithole. Bonus points is that the US can leverage the deep historical conflict between India and China, in order to fuck with China a bit more. Of course it can back fire, and US oligarchs fuck up all the time, especially on international affairs. US diplomats are really mediocre.
+--- 14902794
+>>14902789
+>-China, which is commercial power, but not a military power (the US are not a military power, just like any commercial society (the whole humanist propaganda is that military conflicts will never be serious because of deep commercial ties between countries run by oligarchs))
+Its hard to judge Chinas or Americas military right now because neither are in wartime. Kind of like how Russians were convinced they had the 3rd greatest army on Earth before being vibe checked by some Ukrainain farmers.
+--- 14902800
+>>14902789
+Interesting post I wish to subscribe to your blog
+--- 14902803
+>>14902607 (OP)
+Indians are the perfect slave race, a combination of servile, stupid and weak manlets that will never rise up against their masters. They love sucking up to jews
+--- 14902820
+>>14902803
+this
+--- 14903854
+>>14902789
+India can't replace China. Their whole economy is actually dependent on China moreso than the US. Giving India more money just means giving them more money to pay China.
+--- 14903861
+>>14902607 (OP)
+They invented nothing. Ancient India was ruled by a white Aryan caste.
+--- 14903894
+>>14902794
+china hasnt been in a war since they invaded vietnam, in which they got stomped, there is no telling if chinese tactics, officer quality, and equipment is up to snuff for an actual war, and the only concrete assumption id make is they would use the quantity over quality strategy. I would say its safe to assume they have the same issue practically every authoritarian government has, their officers are selected on blind loyalty than anything else.
+The US on the other hand I would consider being ready for the task of a conventional war ten years ago, now it feels like every part of the US military is degrading in some way at every level. As for getting their asses kicked in Afghanistan, the US has historically always had issues fighting irregular wars.

his/14902630.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902630
+I miss her, bros
+--- 14902735
+>>14902630 (OP)
+>her
+Him. Novgorod - male grammatical gender. "Lord Novgorod the Great"
+--- 14902780
+Norvogord still exists.
+--- 14904043
+>>14902630 (OP)
+
+They had wooden paved streets.
+Fucking IRL Rivendell, ruined by Muscowites

his/14902703.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+-----
+--- 14902703
+Whats their endgame
+--- 14902706
+>>14902703 (OP)
+Never shutting the fuck up and vicariously living through genetic's samples in the neolithic.
+--- 14902721
+>>14902703 (OP)
+Pushing darktroon into her reservation again and hijras' butchering.
+--- 14902729
+facing one another in trenches near Bakhmut
+--- 14902739
+>>14902703 (OP)
+The gay alien with glasses is so ugly and creepy it’s unsettling, he’s also known as Mordovix
+--- 14902742
+>>14902721
+Based
+--- 14903249
+get AIDS and die
+--- 14903417
+bully half sentient trannies
+--- 14903433
+>>14902703 (OP)
+Yo never have sex.
+--- 14903637
+>>14902703 (OP)
+Ugly fucks
+--- 14903735
+>>14902729
+toplel

his/14902734.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902734
+Why haven't you converted to Orthdoxy yet?
+--- 14902741
+i am not insane retard fillowing cringe fads
+--- 14902749
+because god is an asshole and deserves our contempt, not worship
+--- 14902755
+>>14902734 (OP)
+I don't believe in invisible magic sky jews like a fucking idiot.
+--- 14902757
+Because I'm not an easterner.
+--- 14902769
+>>14902734 (OP)
+I'm already მართლმადიდებელი though
+--- 14902810
+>>14902757
+Phyletism
+--- 14902815
+what are some good orthodox sources then? I'm an interested catholic anon
+--- 14902823
+>>14902815
+I learned about Orthodoxy through YouTube. Maybe start with spiritual talks by Father Spyridon
+https://youtube.com/@FatherSpyridonROCOR
+--- 14902835
+Because it's heresy.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d07mgLoOW8g [Embed]
+
+The final redpill is Barlaam of Seminara converting to Catholicism because of the Palamite heresy spreading and pushing the killing blow to Orthodoxy.
+--- 14902863
+>>14902734 (OP)
+I did last Lazarus Saturday
+--- 14902882
+>>14902734 (OP)
+>Posts picture of a Byzantine flag and dagger in his icon corner.
+Cringey LARPers like you give the rest of us a bad name. I hate telling people I’m a convert because they automatically assume I do things like this.
+--- 14902885
+Because I think they are praying to saints and commot idoltary.
+Also I dont like the "trad based" larpers here.
+--- 14902902
+>>14902734 (OP)
+Why would you have a statue of a failure and the flag of a failed state on your altar for supposedly worshipping God.
+--- 14902976
+>>14902734 (OP)
+baptized orthodox in an orthodox country and i don't get this trend at all. the orthodox church doesn't care about proselytizing, if you believe the jew got resurrected and aren't an asshole you get into heaven regardless of which church you belong to. universalism is also prevalent, so again no reason to convert.
+--- 14903203
+https://www.orthodoxmanchester.org.uk/welcome.htm
+
+This seems to be a cool Orthodox Church from around where I used to live
+--- 14903307
+>>14902734 (OP)
+I converted and on day 3 of going to church I got some orthodussy. Life is good
+--- 14903323
+>>14902734 (OP)
+Nice funko pop collection
+--- 14903354
+>>14902835
+>Sede
+>Calling anyone a heretic
+
+Come on now
+--- 14903800
+>>14902734 (OP)
+Because I'm Catholic.
+--- 14903857
+>>14902741
+atheism is a cringe fad
+--- 14903902
+>>14902734 (OP)
+>Christcuckery dressed up in Slavic mysticism
+
+It’s still christcuckery
+--- 14903923
+>>14902734 (OP)
+Do not use the statues.
+--- 14904316
+Because for me, Russian orthodoxy was built of the idea of third Rome, Russia over Europe and dealing a decisive blow to nato and the w*st. Now, none of that is going to happen and I'm already exploring Islam/Confucianism.
+--- 14904321
+>>14902734 (OP)
+Because Orthodoxy is retarded.

his/14902736.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902736
+Adolf Hitler had good intentions. He had a desire to establish a new order. His vision for the future is a little bit extreme, but a world of pure blood and strong men... is not necessarily a bad thing.
+--- 14902770
+>>14902736 (OP)
+Wiping my butt rn. Also kinda gay you think about men so much
+--- 14902772
+>>14902736 (OP)
+but a world of pure blood and strong men
+If they were really pure and strong they would have won.
+--- 14902777
+>>14902736 (OP)
+A demonstration that good intentions don't outcome in good actions
+--- 14902784
+>>14902772
+>mosquitos can give you malaria therefore mosquitos are stronger than you
+--- 14902832
+>>14902784
+They will probably survive global warming
+--- 14903350
+>>14902736 (OP)
+The bad guys won World War Jew
+--- 14903934
+what a petty and gay thing to do. its a good thing the good guys won right?
+--- 14903947
+>>14902736 (OP)
+Yeah Hitlers only fault was his ambitions slightly outpaced his methodology.
+
+He was a good man at the end of the day.
+--- 14903960
+>>14903350
+Might makes right, Jews are the good guys.
+--- 14903972
+>>14902736 (OP)
+I could kill you with the best of intentions, and unlike Hitler, I'd actually be improving the world.
+--- 14903992
+>>14903960
+No Jews are evil and should be wiped out
+
+>>14903972
+Wrong that’d be evil

his/14902745.txt

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+-----
+--- 14902745
+If anyone else does it such as Indonesians or English people or Bosnians or Turks etc they are Cucking to Arab supremacy but when Pakis do it nobody cares. There are Paki politicians and public speakers wearing Shemagh and Arab robes and it's just seen as their culture too and nobody cares.
+
+Why is Arab culture and Paki culture seen as the same thing when Pakistan is basically India and far from Arabia?
+--- 14902759
+>>14902745 (OP)
+Being obsessed with being traditional for the sake of being traditional with no practical reason is nonsense anyway outside of religion. If the culture evolves and it does what it’s supposed to do for the community it’s good. Only reason you should be fundamentalist with religion is because it is practical. And if you looked it into it anyways I bet you would notice most cultures are partly taken from others anyway. But if your right about Pakistan your right it’s a bit more extreme to be fair
+--- 14902843
+>>14902745 (OP)
+because they're pajets.
+they're beyond redemption.
+--- 14903070
+>>14902745 (OP)
+Because Pakistan is an artificial state with no actual culture. They are apostates from Indian civilisation and culture via their conversion to Islam, thus they simply copy other Muslims and have not existed for long enough to have anything of their own yet.
+--- 14903095
+>>14902745 (OP)
+If you see shit outside of toilet, you'll wonder what happened
+But if you see shit inside toilet, you just flush and don't ask question because that's a normal thing
+--- 14903132
+>>14903095
+lol
+--- 14903183
+Pakistan is failing for the same reason Afghanistan is failing
+
+You can’t build a country on religious bullshit as the only unifying factor
+--- 14903196
+>>14902745 (OP)
+Because they look like brown arabs
+>>14903183
+>Bomb country for 20 years, spread drug abuse and homosexuality among its people
+>Sanction the already poor country, starving its population
+>Islam destroyed Afghanistan, btw
+--- 14903201
+>>14902745 (OP)
+Because they are both the same shade of brown and if you put an Arab and a Paki next to each other you can't tell which is which.
+But if you put a SEA monkey next to them it's going to stand out.
+--- 14903229
+>>14903201
+>SEA Monkey
+SEAs are some of the least hairy humans on the planet, actually
+--- 14903238
+>>14903229
+for comparison: the average greek(turk)
+--- 14903253
+>>14903196
+Afghanistan has been a shithole since forever 
+
+They refuse to develop
+--- 14903271
+>>14903253
+>They refuse to develop
+Translation: They refuse to whore out their daughters and castrate their sons, so we need to bomb them some more
+--- 14903277
+>>14903253
+It's funny if you look at fertility rates in these "developed" countries and then Afghanistan you will soon realize how retarded you are and how this "development" is actually ethnic suicide.
+--- 14903589
+>>14902745 (OP)
+pakis have been under ummayad caliphate
+--- 14903591
+>>14903271
+>whore out
+their women are whores everywhere they go tho
+--- 14903599
+>>14902745 (OP)
+People definitely make fun of Pakistanis for LARPing as Arabs/Persians/Turks.
+--- 14904449
+>>14902745 (OP)
+Pakistanis are the ultimate Araboos
+--- 14904521
+I for one support Afghanistan's war against Pakistan
+Serves them right for trying to fuck with them for decades
+--- 14904534
+>>14902745 (OP)
+This is the hilarious thing about the whole Uyghur shit.
+China is specifcally cracking down in the region on imports from the Gulf States, which signals the person is a Wahabi. When Western media cries about the China "Burqa ban" (that doesn't even exist, just using out of context clips from variety shows), you know Western Media doesn't even know what Uyghurs look like.
+--- 14904542
+>>14903201
+most arabs are lighter
+--- 14904545
+>>14902745 (OP)
+phenotype. they are both brown caucasoids.
+--- 14904549
+>>14902745 (OP)
+Because they often look like Saudis.
+Indonesians and English people don't.

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+-----
+--- 14902747
+Why didn't Prussia take advantage of the Hungarian revolution and attack Austria? Were they stupid?
+--- 14902825
+19th Century Geopolitics worked like this. European Powers would check with the other Great Powers and negotiate with them to get approval for a certain action. For example Russia tried to take over the Ottoman Empire and just march down to free all of the Balkans and the Middle Eastern Christians. The Anglo FREAKED out, because that would create a huge imbalance and Chaos. So they tell them "okay, we approve of you getting this, this and that, but nothing more than that" basically. So you would win at least something in the war, but you would lose massively and start a war against the other Great Powers, if you wanted to push for more than that. 
+
+If Prussia would have shown any ambition to create a Großgermanium, than I am pretty sure every other power would have intervened to stop them. The only reason Prussia managed to unite Germany in our timeline so smoothly was the gigabrain-tier diplomatic strategy of Bismarck. Bismarck also threatened to jump out of a window, if Wilhelm tried to annex Austria from the Habsburg Empire.
+--- 14902931
+>>14902825
+>Bismarck also threatened to jump out of a window, if Wilhelm tried to annex Austria from the Habsburg Empire.
+Source? First time I've heard this.
+--- 14902938
+>>14902931
+>source source source?
+shut up, take it or leave it
+--- 14902947
+>>14902938
+As a Großgermanium enthusiast this is very important information to me. Don't make big claims if you can't back them up.
+--- 14903147
+>>14902947
+get out of my thread
+--- 14903508
+>>14902931
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Prague_(1866)
+>At first, Wilhelm I had wanted to push on to Vienna and annex Austria but Bismarck stopped him and even threatened to resign and more drastically to hurl himself out of the fourth-story window of Nikolsburg Castle.
+>Taylor, A.J.P. (1988). Bismarck: The Man and the Statesman. Hamish Hamilton. pp. 87–88. ISBN 0-241-11565-5.
+--- 14903519
+>>14902747 (OP)
+Gee I wonder what happened in 1848 in the Kingdom of Prussia that bound their forces as well as their attention.
+--- 14904104
+>>14902747 (OP)
+Why did Russia invade Hungary to put down the revolution, were they stupid?
+
+We are talking about people who refused annexing the entirety of Germany for literally free because they didn't want to pick up a crown from the gutter. They obviously valued their own internal unchecked power over having to share power in more powerful states. The only person who was willing to make that deal was the King of Sardinia who made some vague promises that he'd be a constitutional monarch of a united Italy,
+--- 14904167
+>>14903519
+Now that you remind me Prussia did go to war with Denmark over Schleswig-Holstein and lost somehow.
+--- 14904445
+>>14904167
+The First Schleswig War was a coalition effort containing a few of the northern states (among them Prussia) of the German Confederation against the Kingdom of Denmark over the duchies of Schleswig and Holstein. Militarily speaking the german states achieved many victories of ther danes on land but were unable to achieve a greater breakthrough and the german states were never able to seriously challange Denmark on the sea. 
+Due to international pressure from the UK, France and Russia the German Confederation ceased to support the rebels of Schleswig and Holstein, who were in turn unable to resist Denmark.
+--- 14904461
+>>14904445
+This reads like ChatGPT but the capitalisation isn't right. Your typing style needs work.
+--- 14904476
+>>14904461
+Juqqt
+--- 14904606
+>>14902747 (OP)
+Austria's dissolution would've empowered Russia, wasn't worth it.
+--- 14904662
+>>14904606
+Why did Russia invade Hungary to reform Austria then?

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+-----
+--- 14902782
+Will the future see a revival of the religious impulse, as a source of meaning and purpose in the individual life? Will the secular impulse of the Enlightenment gradually recede into the past, and be replaced by a post-modern view of human life as a mere game of chance, in which the individual feels that nothing matters except what the individual chooses for itself? Or will the secular impulse prove to be the new religion, in which human beings will believe because they have made that decision themselves, without any need of God to tell them that what they believe is good and true?
+--- 14902802
+>>14902782 (OP)
+>Or will the secular impulse prove to be the new religion, in which human beings will believe because they have made that decision themselves, without any need of God to tell them that what they believe is good and true?
+This will continue to prevail wherever people have developed regions where they are safe to learn about the world in good schools. However there will always be dumber people and there will always be more unstable parts of the world where learning is incomplete, badly planned and interrupted. 
+It already looks like the Covid interruption in schooling is taking a toll on zoomer science education.
+--- 14902841
+>Will the future see a revival of the religious impulse, as a source of meaning and purpose in the individual life?
+We are already living this future. Christcucks have won. Westerners regard a secular version of christcuck morality not just as A morality, not just as THEIR morality, but morality itself. They can't even conceive of another morality. They think it's just common sense.
+>avoiding suffering
+>being nice
+are the only moral virtues in this world. Christcucks have won an ultimate victory.
+--- 14902857
+>>14902841
+Jesus approves of threesomes now? Nice
+--- 14903428
+>>14902782 (OP)
+Christianity and Islam will grow... Christianity will be revived in the west, billions will be born, and we will all be happy
+--- 14903886
+>>14902782 (OP)
+Blacks, Arabs, and Pakis will replace Whites and other white-admixed populations such as latinos. I don't see a future for white ideologies such as liberalism/atheism, catholicism, and protestantism, they will likely dies alongside the white race. 
+
+The new form of Christianity that will arise from the West will be judaizing like BHI.
+--- 14904310
+yes but it will be a dark age for religious people first. the so called age of aquarius. first they will automate the mind, then the body, then they will realize they cant automate the soul. Then religion will come back