Thu May 4 06:56:21 UTC 2023

his/14984525.txt

@@ -195,3 +195,101 @@ you dont wanna know the half of it...
 --- 14989136
 >>14984993
 LOL
+--- 14989381
+>>14987647
+
+>who the eye witness actually is, is irreverent
+>it was printed in a book! A book!!!
+>trying to find out more information is not trying to get to the truth (but posting the same stormfaggot infographics over and over again is)
+
+Again, /his/ in 2023 everyone.
+--- 14989451
+>>14987001
+>The shower gods will bless you with water if you fast, but gas you if you don't.
+Did I understand that clip right?
+--- 14989457
+gas takes the shape of the container, so why the hell did they need 100 shower heads to pump the gas while you can just use any single hole?
+--- 14989460
+>>14984525 (OP)
+--- 14989466
+>jews get to live in luxury camps with zoos and pools
+>germans get to die in a trench somewhere in Russia
+Masterful plan
+--- 14989469
+>>14984525 (OP)
+It was real in my mind
+--- 14989470
+>>14989457
+This is not what they did. Prisoners thought they did it like that. In Auschwitz they threw in pellets of Zyklon B through openings in the ceiling.
+--- 14989481
+>>14989470
+There are drawings of some Ukrainian prisoner from Auschwitz where he draws the gas chambers with gas coming out of showers. The majority probably imagined the process to look like that.
+--- 14989502
+>>14989457
+
+Stormfaggots once again demonstrating they have a child's understanding of the thing they're obsessed with.
+--- 14989510
+>>14989481
+
+Post the drawings and the name and role of the prisoner.
+--- 14989650
+>>14984986
+Our teacher told us to make up holocaust survivor stories for our class. I am serious.
+--- 14991260
+>>14986795
+It was unlikely for the average nazi to be blond but I laughed nonetheless
+--- 14991274
+>>14989650
+I remember that assignment. It was an essay. I stayed up all night playing world of warcraft instead of completing it though. Many such a cases.
+--- 14991282
+>>14984525 (OP)
+/pol/trannies are retarded enough to believe this is a serious claim and disproves the holocaust
+--- 14991303
+My great grandfather was sexually assaulted by a big titted goth SS officer who sucked him dry every night before beating him to near death. He got her pregnant one day, and then when she gave birth, she forced him to dine on their own child together. He escaped after she took him to her house for playtime, and she passed out drunk, letting him escape. Something weird is that when he escaped to America, he ended up marrying a blonde girl who supposedly looked just like the SS officer who tortured him for years, weird.
+--- 14991369
+>>14991303
+--- 14991384
+>>14991369
+Based
+--- 14992121
+>>14989381
+>DON'T YOU KNOW THE ODYSSEY WAS NOT WRITTEN BY HOMER, BUT BY ANOTHER ANCIENT GREEK AUTHOR OF THE SAME NAME WHO LIVED AT THE SAME TIME?!? THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!
+If you could articulate why anything about the imate's identity is important beyond the fact that he was an inmate you would've written it. The fact that you didn't is a tacit admission on your part that you're full of shit, and you know it.
+
+>it was printed in a book! A book!!!
+The book on which, according to its introduction, the Nuremberg Trials are based.
+And it's permitted to sell and advertise this book, despite the obvious blood libel it contains. Making similar claims about Jews would land you in prison in Germany. This is proof that the German state is an anarcho-tyranny that does not operate according the the rule of law, as it does not apply the law equally.
+
+>infographics
+We keep posting them because they disprove your position, and you can't respond to them in any way other than reporting them to the jannies when you lose the argument.
+--- 14992366
+Nazis killed my father by hooking him up to the masturbation machine and cockmilking him to death. I am a horrifying Jew-masturbation machine hybrid born in 1945; I can do nothing but milk cocks and hoard coins. This is the extent of Nazi cruelty.
+--- 14992388
+>>14984525 (OP)
+based OP making all the joomers seethe, truly a gentleman and a scholar, keep doing god's work. I salute you
+--- 14992413
+>>14989510
+Can't find it one. He was just a normal prisoner. He never saw gas chambers but obviously there were a lot of rumors about them and he imagined them looking like that.
+--- 14993233
+>>14985160
+Lmao, what was Hitler thinking?
+--- 14993256
+>>14985160
+A zoo, really? Why would the Germans build a death camp with a zoo?
+--- 14993280
+>>14986833
+Yeah yeah, that all sounds a bit unbelievable but why exactly were people put into camps, death or otherwise? Hitler doesn't come off as a very good guy if even 300.000 prisoners died somewhere where they shouldn't have been in the first place.
+--- 14993323
+>>14991303
+>when she gave birth, she forced him to dine on their own child together
+What did he mean by that?
+--- 14993329
+>>14989381
+>>14989502
+>>14991282
+SIX GORILLIONS!! SIX!!
+--- 14993372
+/his/ in 2073:
+9/11 never happened. Don't fall for their lies.
+--- 14993385
+Titanic never sunk. There are a ton of fake survivor testimonies. This piece of shit lied about EVERYTHING!

his/14984868.txt

@@ -270,3 +270,135 @@ The Normans invaded Greece 3 times and each time they failed spectacularly. The
 --- 14989286
 >>14988307
 By the battle of Mazikert the Christian Iberians didn't even own toledo yet.
+--- 14989761
+>>14989233
+>They didn't lol, it was equal ground up til the Ottomans came.
+for sure buddy kek
+
+>Also the Turks were dogshit fighters who rely on zerg rushing every time but shit themselves when their leader gets killed.
+wow morale of a nomadic host army broke when their warrior king died 
+
+>zerg rushing every time
+what does that even mean
+--- 14989771
+In the Gothic War even the byz*ntines themselves recognized that they had nothing to do with Rome anymore. And the Italians hated the shit out of them.
+--- 14989807
+>>14989761
+>for sure buddy kek
+Your pic is the aftermath of a literal fluke after the emperor was betrayed by his general.
+
+>wow morale of a nomadic host army broke when their warrior king died
+A nomadic army that outnumbered the Greek one 5 to 1 and was winning the battle got buck broken because the Greek king challenged the Turkish sultan and won
+
+>what does that even mean
+Overpowering the enemy through sheer numbers
+--- 14989817
+>>14989771
+The byzos were fine with forgetting the west aside a nomimal recognition of supremacy by the germ kings even before Justinian.
+It's really just him andhis autistic obsession of holding Rome like he was playing some Paradox map painting game. Impressive how a single man with a specific goal in the right place in the right timeframe can lead to a dramatic shift in history.
+--- 14989826
+>>14989145
+>>His army was largely built of mercenaries IIRC
+
+>The army consisted of about 5000 Byzantine troops from the western provinces, and probably about the same number from the eastern provinces; 500 Franks and Normans mercenaries under Roussel de Bailleul; some Turkish, Bulgarian, and Pecheneg mercenaries; infantry under the duke of Antioch; a contingent of Armenian troops; and some (but not all) of the Varangian Guard.
+--- 14991109
+>>14985483
+It’s true you dumb gayreek. Go seethe about Constantinople
+--- 14991175
+>>14984868 (OP)
+>The Romans had slowly whittled away and defeated the Arabs in the previous centuries
+1. Byzantines are not "Romans", they are Greeks since the 7th century.
+2. Byzantine/Eastern "Roman" reversal of fortune was due to the same opportunism and openings they took advantage of against the Abbasid Caliphate which by the late 700s and early 800s was beset by many major uprisings, revolts, balkanization of its territories, and the Caliph's power increasingly weakened by independent emirs (governors).
+3. The Fatamids taking most of Northern Africa and particularly Egypt and the Buyids, Samanids, and Tahirids along with other Persian/Iranian dynasties in former Sassanian territories pincered a lot of income, manpower, and resources from the Caliphate in Baghdad 
+4. As soon as internal threats were gone, Byzantine progress and recovery was reversed
+5. Thereby claiming Manzikert was somehow the final nail in the coffin for restoration of the empire or its survival is nonsensical
+--- 14992051
+>>14991175
+>Byzantines are not "Romans", they are Greeks since the 7th century.
+Why do you say that?
+--- 14992226
+>>14988307
+During the Komnenian Restoration the Byzantines had their own mini-Reconquista, where they retook most of the more valuable regions and cities.
+
+Even post-Fourth Crusade the Empire of Nicaea held the anatolian frontlines stable and in an alternative history it is conceivable that they might have finished the full reconquest after the Rum Seljuk Sultanate imploded.
+--- 14992232
+>>14992226
+The Komnenian Empire was a hybridized version of Western European feudalism and the old Roman imperial system which makes it barbaroi cringe.
+--- 14992293
+>>14992051
+>didnt hold rome
+>didnt speak latin
+>different political system (introduction of themes)
+
+essentially the only thing they could claim was that they were he successor to eastern rome empire and had continuity, but other than that they were not roman in pretty much any sense
+
+this is why they are the byzantines, not eastern rome
+--- 14992303
+>>14992293
+By this logic the Roman Republic fails to meet one of your arbitrary criteria
+--- 14992328
+>>14992293
+The Roman Empire as a political entity detached itself from the city of Rome long before the West even fell.
+--- 14992489
+>>14984868 (OP)
+>>14984912
+
+> Manzikert was a 1 in 100 perfect storm fluke victory for the Turks that completely changed the course of history.
+
+No, it absolutely did not.
+The Turks did jack shit after Manzikert, and kept attacking the Caucasus and Egypt.
+
+It was the imbecile Byzies starting a 30 year fucking set of civil wars that changed the course of history.
+
+For fucks sake the fucking eunuch whorefucks literally invited Turkish warlords to invade and take chunks of Anatolia as payment for fighting the other guys of the court.
+
+Nicea, the second largest city in Anatolia, a mere stone throw away from Constantinople,
+was 
+LITERALLY GIVEN TO THE TURKS,
+by usurper Byzantine fuckfaces.
+
+The Byzies were the most imbecile faction of world history.
+The diadochi of the medieval period, a pathetic succesor state larping as the originals
+--- 14992528
+>>14992293
+>>didnt hold rome
+meme
+>>didnt speak latin
+greek was considered the other major language of the republic and empire. heraclius didn't change the official language to greek btw, this is also a meme.
+>>different political system (introduction of themes)
+ERE existed for a millenia, of course there are going to be changes. doesn't mean they don't have continuity with rome
+--- 14992759
+>>14992293
+>didnt hold rome
+This argument always makes me laugh because that city has been cucked during the Dominate so thoroughly barely any emperor ruling the entire empire has visited it ever since Constantinople has become a new capital. I swear the only reason why people bring it up is muh name, which isn't even accurate from the contemporary perspective since around the same time the country started being colloquially referred to as Romania rather than Rome in recognition of the old capital's irrelevance
+--- 14993482
+>>14984868 (OP)
+manzikert is one of the proofs that Byzantium was its own worst enemy.
+>Sassanid invasion of the 600s: Byzantines are at fault
+>Seljuk conquest of Anatolia: Absolutely Byzantine fault, might as well offer them on a silver plate
+>1204: Byzantines didn't pay debt
+>Palailogan civil war: Byzantine infighting allowed the Ottoman to grow
+--- 14993621
+>>14984868 (OP)
+had Romanos won, Romania could somehow stop the bleed and maybe go either in the offensive or entrench to what was coming. michael doukas was the true calamity after manzikert
+
+>>14992226
+it's a shame Manuel system did not work, but what he achieved was impressive. He had an empire on par with the west and on top of that LOTS of gold
+
+>>14988102
+just imagine still having God's viceregent on earth... they had to shut it down ofc
+--- 14993627
+>>14984868 (OP)
+In the streets of Paris a ghostly sight
+Lionel Pessi roams the night
+Now tremble in the face of his tricks
+The master of the penalty kick
+--- 14993681
+>>14992293
+These posters are so retarded I'm surprised they can even breathe. This is their answer every single time. I'd really love to see the reactions of Romans if this chump were to go back in time and explain to them that being a Roman simply means proficiency in Latin and living under a government that occupies the city of Rome.
+--- 14993814
+>>14984896
+Byzantines having a civil war and losing provinces in the process isn't a 1 in 100 perfect storm fluke, it's fairly typical of the Roman political system.
+--- 14994189
+>>14985520
+interesting take

his/14985954.txt

@@ -242,3 +242,117 @@ Nigga, Beattyville has 2k people in the middle of nowhere. View Park-Windsor Hil
 Cope and seethe tranny faggot
 There are safe cities right next to Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago.
 It's never just blacks committing crime is it?
+--- 14989635
+>>14986428
+You might wanna check how your beloved saviors of the white race treated the greeks during the war.
+Aka stealing so much food from them greeks went into mass starvation.
+Same happened with the dutch.
+Basically everywhere the eternal destroyers of Europe went starvation followed. People had more food under the Soviet occupation than the German occupation. This is how dogshit nazis were.
+--- 14989638
+>>14988673
+Is that why America has a higher murder rate than most of Eastern Europe? Because EE is richer?
+--- 14989659
+American government set up a massive suburban housing subsidies scheme to reinforce racial segregation, around the same time amerindustry started to slow down since they actually had to compete with other people again, and then the suburbanites started push forward schemes to literally bulldoze large segments of cities for highways and parking lots
+--- 14989999
+>>14989659
+I still don't get why no other place suffers from it. Downtows are the wealthy parts. I really think it was an intentional policy to depopulate cities, in order to reduce nuke damage. Destroy streetcars, promote suburbs and car culture.
+--- 14990021
+>>14988827
+I thought it was confirmed that right pic is not Paris but some random African shithole
+--- 14990097
+>>14989025
+Boomerbook memes aren't known for their accuracy
+--- 14990390
+>>14988720
+Yeah in 1933-1945.
+--- 14990395
+>>14986372
+What did they think would happen when they colonised half of Africa and made those Africans french citizens? Did they not think said citizens would want to come home to France one day? Even now they still have majority black overseas territories were the blacks have french citizenship. They fought nafris to keep them as french citizens.
+--- 14990689
+>>14989638
+Purely socioeconomic reasons
+--- 14990714
+>>14990097
+>samefagging
+--- 14991677
+>>14986444
+Cities have historically always been shit.
+--- 14991682
+>>14986462
+Eastern Europe is shit because of black people.
+--- 14991687
+>>14985954 (OP)
+They're full of Americans
+--- 14991712
+>>14989638
+Americans refuse to ban African American criminal culture because its racist to want blacks to not aspire to be terrorist in their own communities apparently to the deranged white leftist
+--- 14991721
+>>14991682
+>Eastern Europe is shi-ACK!ACK!
+--- 14991808
+>>14987205
+>Why would a massive European derived diaspora ever acknowledge their origins with any positivity or respect?
+Do post-imperial Euros really?
+--- 14991822
+>>14989025
+nooooooooooo what do you mean a tiny rural town has lower crime than a huge suburb next to urban sprawl???? it's clearly the black people
+--- 14991957
+>>14991822
+Here are some examples of predominantly-white suburbs next to cities infested with black crime.
+Detroit: Livonia, Grosse Pointe
+Chicago: Naperville, Oak Lawn
+Los Angeles: Manhattan Beach
+It's clearly the blacks, not even up for debate, and View Park Windsor Hills has a population under 20k. It's not a huge suburb. Learn what the fuck you're talking about, clown. I dare you come to East St. Louis
+--- 14992145
+>>14991822
+>>14989025
+>urbanism = crime
+>blacks mostly live in urban areas
+another fat L for niggers
+--- 14992417
+>>14988764
+Holy shit, all of you people are beyond fucking retarded. 
+
+This is a fucking made up statistic. 
+
+First, it defines "richest" as the dollar you are making which is fucking retarded because Los Angeles is like the single most expensive city to live in in America. 
+
+Second, the median income is not $160,000, it's fucking $50,000, which if far below the
+--- 14993498
+>>14992417
+>Holy shit, all of you people are beyond fucking retarded.
+>This is a fucking made up statistic.
+>First, it defines "richest" as the dollar you are making which is fucking retarded because Los Angeles is like the single most expensive city to live in in America.
+>Second, the median income is not $160,000, it's fucking $50,000, which if far below the
+--- 14993528
+>>14986012
+/thread
+--- 14993539
+>>14985954 (OP)
+You know how normally cities & city centers are centers of wealth instead of poverty? Well in shartland, the rich people moved outside in the Suburbs and LARPing that they don't live in the city and they moved the poor people in.
+
+They're that retarded.
+--- 14993548
+>>14991721
+t. never been there.
+--- 14993560
+>>14988643
+The first great migration occurred during the 30s.
+--- 14993923
+>>14993560
+No. It began around 1917 and ended c. 1929 as it became clear there were no more jobs up North.
+--- 14993926
+>>14993923
+blacks were flocking to the north until the 70's for welfare
+--- 14993933
+>>14993923
+their employment went down as they abandoned sharecropping tho
+--- 14993939
+>>14993926
+After the war effort started in 1941 yeah. But the first wave happened before public housing initiatives were a thing and welfare was sparse back then. SNAP was still decades away.
+--- 14994226
+>>14993548
+>there are no blacks so it's shi-ACK!ACK!ACK!ACK!
+--- 14994234
+>>14993939
+"snap" existed since the 30's, a large part of civil rights was welfare reform so blacks didn't have to jump so many hoops for benefits (because they didn't deserve them)

his/14986967.txt

@@ -24,3 +24,64 @@ We'd have a dyson sphere around Alpha Centauri and a eudaemonic society. The onl
 --- 14989039
 >>14987365
 Lol no. They'd all dive at each other's throats.
+--- 14989504
+>>14987541
+>low fertility rates
+Bro we Ashkenazim are the most fertile race in existence Yiddish is the fastest growing language in america
+--- 14989528
+>>14986967 (OP)
+That has been tried before, with horrible results.
+--- 14989535
+>>14988863
+>>14989504
+Ashkenazis are just fucking retards and not even real Jews.
+--- 14989555
+>>14989535
+We are real jews
+--- 14989593
+>>14989555
+You are descendants of retarded or mentaly ill germans, who learned to use the hebrew alphabet, because they couldn't learn to read fraktur.
+--- 14989603
+>>14989593
+You mean Italians
+--- 14989676
+>>14989593
+He is E1b1b so no he's an actual Israelite.
+--- 14989686
+>>14986967 (OP)
+It would be terrifying. Too many smart Jews in one place.
+--- 14991240
+>>14989676
+how? were his ancestors blacked?
+--- 14991259
+>>14991240
+It's one of the bigger haplogroupe among Ashkenazim after j1 it's a mena haplogroupe all of the mena was nigher free a few thousand years ago unironicly we wuz kangz an shit
+--- 14991268
+>>14989593
+so why don't they have any german dna? genetically they are italian, levantine and slavic 
+>because they couldn't learn to read fraktur.
+germans were highly illiterate as recently as the 19th century
+--- 14991393
+>>14991259
+How were they bleached?
+--- 14992992
+>>14991393
+They weren't bleached they were always white till the slave trade brought niggers whom eventualy mixed into the population
+--- 14993020
+>>14987006
+The world would be a significantly more advanced, safer, and less disgusting place.
+--- 14994752
+>>14993020
+Massive power grabs between all 3. You think they'd all play along?
+
+>>14992992
+>>14991259
+black ancestry is very small.
+--- 14994764
+>>14988863
+Dyson spheres are retarded and do not work.
+Can't beat thermal radiation and gravity.
+--- 14994791
+>>14994752
+>black ancestry is very small.
+It doesn't take much

his/14987375.txt

@@ -126,3 +126,473 @@ Yuan China was well run.
 KWAB. Mongolboos are fucking insane.
 --- 14989227
 Trick question. Nobody lives in the desert. Everyone lives on the mountains.
+--- 14989866
+>>14989072
+>Yuan China was well run
+Kublai bankrupts state with failed campaigns
+Caste system with chinese at the bottom
+Tried to solve their economic problems by printing money
+Used foreign taxmen to fleece as much money from the populace
+Flip flop between pro mongol and pro sinicization policies with every new emperor
+--- 14989899
+>>14987375 (OP)
+Persia have massive underwater reserves that were used with this >>14987399 system. Indeed the creation of this sytems precede of mere centuries the rise of Persia as a power
+
+In antiquity Persia used to be less harid tho. The gradual desertification of the MENA areas hit down there too. Also the multiple pastoral steppeningers marauders that destroyed farms and replaced them with pastures didnt help either
+--- 14989984
+>>14987375 (OP)
+It isn't that barren, several crops come from the area, like almonds, pistachios.
+--- 14989997
+>>14987632
+>>14987664
+>>14987756
+>>14988254
+>>14989037
+>>14989866
+>>14989161
+How was the Mongol administration in Russia and Central Asia?
+--- 14990016
+This region has been inhabited since the neolithic. Lots of villages, proto-cities all over the place. And I'm sure Persians actually ruled from the fertile West.
+--- 14990199
+>>14987916
+The Safavids were azeri turks whose power base lie with pastoral azeri qizilbashi tribes bludgeoning the population into submission. They weren't a civilized state.
+--- 14990229
+>>14990199
+the safavids were kurdish
+--- 14990281
+>>14988192
+Persians are Arabs. Just Arabs who are ashamed of being Arab.
+--- 14990316
+>>14990281
+Europeans are Jews. Just Jews who are ashamed of being Jewish.
+--- 14990329
+>>14990316
+100% right. If they accepted their Jewish heritage they could become rich overnight
+--- 14990776
+I was actually going to ask the same question, as I had been thinking about it recently, and was wondering if the real wealth of Persia had purely been out of Mesopotamia, but >>14987632 is pretty damning. I knew the qanats were widely used but didn't know just how necessary they were to Persian agriculture 
+What source is that from?
+--- 14992078
+>>14987375 (OP)
+bump
+--- 14992093
+>>14992078
+Damn you and go to hell.
+--- 14992108
+>reading a paper about bronze age iran 
+>comparison between Central Iran and South Turkmenistan
+
+>6000-4000 BC - small settlements in both 
+>4000-2500 BC - bigger settlements 20-30 ha in both 
+>2500-1700 - urbanization in Turkmenistan (BMAC), total collapse in Central Iran - no habitation - desert 
+
+Pretty crazy.
+--- 14992210
+>>14990199
+Urbanization resumed under their rule.
+--- 14992221
+>>14990776
+>What source is that from?
+The cambridge history of iran
+--- 14992227
+>>14992108
+>>14987632
+Proof that you should resist steppe people until the very last gasp
+--- 14992238
+I wish I had R1a-Z93 and at least 30% Sintashta admixture.
+--- 14992272
+>>14989037
+>>14989161
+Mongolboos are suprisingly absent ITT
+--- 14992279
+>>14990199
+>The Safavids were azeri
+HAHAHA
+--- 14992295
+>>14989997
+>How was the Mongol administration in Russia and Central Asia?
+In Russia their time can be summed up as 
+>collect tribute
+>if rus were late, did not pay, or did not pay enough attack them and ravage them into compliance 
+
+In Central Asia the main economy was selling defeated turkic tribes as slaves to the mamluks in Egypt. It was always a big part of the economy even before the mongols but under them there was an absute abundance of slaves in the markets
+--- 14992433
+>>14989072
+In comparison to their northern predecessors, yes. No one really expected Mongols to reach Song or even Tang levels of internal administration. What's important here however are the practices introduced into imperial China, the internal affairs of the Ming were so disastrous people have yet to figure out how exactly it endured for so long.
+--- 14992497
+>>14992433
+>In comparison to their northern predecessors, yes
+The fuck? The Jin and Liao were far better run than Mongol China
+--- 14992502
+>>14992433
+>the internal affairs of the Ming were so disastrous people have yet to figure out how exactly it endured for so long.
+Yeah so disastrous that they lasted 3 centuries. Why are Mongol cocksuckers so delusional?
+--- 14992568
+>>14992497
+How so?
+>>14992502
+>Yeah so disastrous that they lasted 3 centuries.
+Yes, as I pointed out. That's indeed, by far, the most impressive thing about Ming internal administration.
+>Why are Mongol cocksuckers so delusional?
+Such as the Ming founder? He readily adopted Yuan-style ruling instead of returning to a Song form of government.
+--- 14992651
+>>14992497
+If not for Mongols Jin would most likely succeed at unifying China, Jurchens (Jianzhou ones) were dynamic and adaptable like Turks, it is no wonder Mongol states that lasted longest and most stable were Golden Horde and Chagatai
+--- 14993117
+>>14992651
+>Mongol states that lasted longest and most stable were Golden Horde and Chagatai
+Only the golden horde was stable for some time
+--- 14993122
+>>14992568
+>Yes, as I pointed out. That's indeed, by far, the most impressive thing about Ming internal administration.
+Are you dumb. It contradicts your bullshit
+>He readily adopted Yuan-style ruling instead of returning to a Song form of government.
+No he created a new system from scratch. Its literally one of the things he's most famous for
+--- 14993315
+>>14993122
+He did not create a new system from scratch at all. The Hongwu emperor reworked the Mongol caste government into hereditary households which functioned in the exact same manner. His taxation amounted to the same sort of hands-off approach typical to nomadic rule, except that instead of selling the rights he left collection to prominent locals and the system immediately collapsed on top of itself as the peasants (unsurprisingly) cheated the government out of its own revenue. His granary system was also left to this bizarre autarky ideal and it faced severe shortages as the peasants again, unsurprising, cheated the government by keeping storage low. It took over a hundred years for Ming officials to finally be rid of this self-sufficiency stupidity as they finally began to lean into the sturdy Chinese internal economy as a matter of court policy.
+
+Furthermore, Hongwu's reign is the dawn of Chinese despotism. He completely destroyed the Chinese bureaucratic system for the sake of an autocracy that never worked, more so than being a despot in the Mongol way of castes, he introduced a secondary system of laws which applied to the emperor and the emperor only. In the process of destroying the ministries and leaving China entirely to the whims (and incompetence) of the emperor, he brought back to the court all of the issues which the Song had been rid of, namely constant plotting and backstabbings, eunuchs, bloody purges and an utter lack of loyalty, the most noted Ming loyalist was a literal pirate whose father had betrayed no one other than the emperor himself. 
+
+>Its literally one of the things he's most famous for
+The thing he's most famous for is his genocide of the Han Chinese. The Hongwu emperor killed more scholars and gentlemen than every single foreign emperor in the entirety of imperial history put together. The very first decades of the Ming were already worse for the officials than literally anything the Mongols ever did.
+--- 14993365
+>>14993315
+>He did not create a new system from scratch at all. The Hongwu emperor reworked the Mongol caste government into hereditary households which functioned in the exact same manner. His taxation amounted to the same sort of hands-off approach typical to nomadic rule, except that instead of selling the rights he left collection to prominent locals and the system immediately collapsed on top of itself as the peasants (unsurprisingly) cheated the government out of its own revenue. His granary system was also left to this bizarre autarky ideal and it faced severe shortages as the peasants again, unsurprising, cheated the government by keeping storage low. It took over a hundred years for Ming officials to finally be rid of this self-sufficiency stupidity as they finally began to lean into the sturdy Chinese internal economy as a matter of court policy.
+>Furthermore, Hongwu's reign is the dawn of Chinese despotism. He completely destroyed the Chinese bureaucratic system for the sake of an autocracy that never worked, more so than being a despot in the Mongol way of castes, he introduced a secondary system of laws which applied to the emperor and the emperor only. In the process of destroying the ministries and leaving China entirely to the whims (and incompetence) of the emperor, he brought back to the court all of the issues which the Song had been rid of, namely constant plotting and backstabbings, eunuchs, bloody purges and an utter lack of loyalty, the most noted Ming loyalist was a literal pirate whose father had betrayed no one other than the emperor himself.
+Kek no. The Hongwu emperor created a series of small autonomous units throughout his whole empire. That was his main legacy.
+--- 14993371
+>>14993315
+>genocide of the Han Chinese
+>already worse for the officials than literally anything the Mongols ever did
+who the fuck is talking about the officials you stupid mongol cuck. Even in your mongo paradise chinese could barely become officials
+--- 14993393
+>>14993315
+>The Hongwu emperor reworked the Mongol caste government into hereditary households which functioned in the exact same manner. His taxation amounted to the same sort of hands-off approach typical to nomadic rule
+There is no comparison here. Hongwu strengthened the peasantry and you disingenuously compare that to nomad rule. What a dumbass
+>Furthermore, Hongwu's reign is the dawn of Chinese despotism. He completely destroyed the Chinese bureaucratic system for the sake of an autocracy that never worked, more so than being a despot in the Mongol way of castes, he introduced a secondary system of laws which applied to the emperor and the emperor only. In the process of destroying the ministries
+He didn't destroy it. He put himself above it to avoid government inaction and lethargy. dumbass
+>to the whims (and incompetence) of the emperors
+as opposed to the incompetence of the officials. Song China was notorious for officials constantly bungling and weak emperors.
+--- 14993402
+>>14993315
+>The thing he's most famous for is his genocide of the Han Chinese
+Hongwu killed over 60 million Chinese in his campaigns?
+--- 14993488
+>>14993365
+Yes, that's what the word "autarky" means, as well as the term "self-sufficiency". A Chinese cobbler under the Yuan was a Chinese cobbler for life, and he paid taxes to a man that cheated the Mongols out of their revenue. A Chinese cobbler under the Hongwu emperor was a cobbler for life and he paid taxes to the local chief who cheated the Ming out of their revenue.
+
+>>14993393
+He did not strengthen the peasantry at all, he tied them to outdated hereditary posts, an institution that would be ignored immediately upon Hongwu's death. The average Ming peasant was poorer than their Song counterpart despite the new commercial nature of the economy, even with the massive influx of trade and silver from Europe. 
+
+>The volume of merchandise that the Chinese possess is not a sufficient argument to prove that they are very rich. Speaking in general, this is a people that, on the contrary, is extremely poor.
+
+From Adriano de Las Cortes, a Jesuit at the time, which stands in stark contrast to what was reported by the Koreans and Marco Polo. Even after the high period of the Qing the average peasant still enjoyed a relatively decent quality of life which was absent in the Ming.
+
+And while Song officials were indeed lethargic as far as foreign policies go, their internal policy was superb as is evident by the fact that Kaifeng remained the most prosperous city the world had seen until the Enlightenment. 
+
+>>14993402
+No, he slaughtered well over 50 thousand by himself. Far more impressive. Hongwu was so good at butchering Chinese that his purge was the most violent event of the century, worldwide.
+
+
+Now keep at it, Chang.
+--- 14993517
+>>14987375 (OP)
+>so, Shah, how did you do it?
+>well, Iran things pretty well
+--- 14993688
+>>14993517
+Kek
+--- 14993716
+>>14993488
+>No, he slaughtered well over 50 thousand by himself. Far more impressive. Hongwu was so good at butchering Chinese that his purge was the most violent event of the century, worldwide.
+kek and the Mongols killed 60 million. You mongolboos are something special
+--- 14993781
+>>14989161
+>>14989866
+>retarded seething
+Extremely low IQ sóy responses. They were a huge improvement over the preceding Chinese dynasties with massive gains in technology, economic output, and political stability. While Mongols might have mismanaged the Middle East, but the Mongols easily did a better job running China than the native Chinese did.
+
+captcha:jaksyh
+--- 14993796
+>>14993781
+>technology, economic output, and political stability
+Peak shitposting 
+>mismanaged
+The words mongolboos use is hilarious
+--- 14993815
+>thread is about how Mongol rulership destroyed the Iranian agrarian system
+>somehow got to a tug-of-war between an admirer of sinophile Mongols that collapsed under its own schizo policies and an admirer of the contender for worst Chinese dynasty in History, including the interregnums
+back to the discussion at hand, brainlets 
+Were there any regions that survived the destruction of the qanats? If so, were they massively involved in the Safavid restoration?
+--- 14993828
+>>14993796
+>>technology, economic output, and political stability
+>Peak shitposting
+Concession accepted.
+>The words mongolboos use is hilarious
+You should try learning some.
+--- 14993836
+>>14993828
+>Concession accepted.
+Fuck off retard. The Yuan dynasty was notorious for its economic unstability and political instability. Literally lasted less than 90 years
+--- 14993838
+>>14993716
+No, they never did, they killed swathes surely but 60 million is completely absurd. This number is based on the household census and doesn't account for the massive migration which closely follows steppe chimpouts. I'm not defending Mongols, I'm criticizing the Ming and the Yuan are source of brutality and despotism that plagued that dynasty. The Ming court grew under foreign rule and that's all they knew, from purges to tanistry. 
+
+>Fang Xiaoru, the former tutor to the Jianwen Emperor: threatened with execution of all nine degrees of his kinship, he fatuously replied "Never mind nine! Go with ten!" and – alone in Chinese history – he was sentenced to execution of 10 degrees of kinship: along with his entire family, every former student or peer of Fang Xiaoru that the Yongle Emperor's agents could find was also killed.
+>872 other people were executed in the ordeal. 
+
+This sort of savagery had long been gone in the Song, you talked back to a bad-tempered emperor then and you ended in the frontier wrangling nomads, you talked back to a Ming emperor and a thousand members of your clan would be hunted down and cut to pieces. Eunuchs? Gone in the Song, back in the Ming. Deranged concubines? Rampant court murder? Completely untrustworthy, well, anyone? All came back with the Ming. 
+
+>>14993815
+Fine then. I'm done buying the chinkspammer his next round of dog soup anyways.
+--- 14993843
+>>14993828
+>the complete destruction of the economy and land is "mismanagement" 
+You think you're clever but you're not
+--- 14993851
+>>14993838
+>No, they never did, they killed swathes surely but 60 million is completely absurd. This number is based on the household census and doesn't account for the massive migration which closely follows steppe chimpouts
+>No it wasnt exactly 60 million the census wasn't accurate 
+Jesus christ. Just stop it.
+--- 14993856
+>>14993815
+>worst Chinese dynasty
+Literally the best dynasty in chinese history after the Han
+--- 14993861
+>>14993843
+>Growing the economy 10 fold is "compete destruction of the economy"
+You're too low IQ for this topic.
+--- 14993866
+>>14993861
+>Growing the economy 10 fold is "compete destruction of the economy"
+Printing money isnt growing the economy
+--- 14993875
+>>14993866
+Yuan China saw huge economic growth that China hadn't seen in centuries. Printing money had nothing to do with it.
+--- 14993878
+>>14993815
+Mongolboos have nothing to argue against >>14987632 so they're trying to save face by trying to pass off the Yuan as a great empire. They're literally calling it a beacon of political stability when it was the most unstable dynasty in Chinese history. 15 khans in 90 years. A 90 year dynasty.
+--- 14993896
+>>14993878
+We can argue against it by pointing out Mongol China was better run than China run by the Chinese. You have no argument against the fact the Yuan Dynasty was the most stable period China saw in centuries and saw explosive economic growth China hadn't seen before under the superior leadership of the Mongols.
+--- 14993901
+>>14993875
+>Yuan China saw huge economic growth that China hadn't seen in centuries.
+That's bullshit considering Song China was Imperial China's peak in terms of economy. You keep saying ecnomic output but dont go into detail. Kublai Khan was known to fund his failed campaigns by printing money. His sucessors had to deal with this and failed to do so.
+
+>Beacon of political stability 
+>kublai khan 30 years
+>other 14 khans - 59 years
+Well considering this is political stabilty to you I'm not surprised at your definition growing the economy
+--- 14993908
+>>14993896
+>You have no argument against the fact the Yuan Dynasty was the most stable period China saw in centuries and saw explosive economic growth China hadn't seen before under the superior leadership of the Mongols.
+Learn to bait properly. This is too obvious.
+--- 14993918
+>>14993896
+>explosive economic growth China hadn't seen 
+You're confusing the Yuan with the Song. Thats how retarded you are.
+--- 14993919
+>>14993901
+>That's bullshit considering Song China was Imperial China's peak in terms of economy.
+Song China was the lowpoint when Mongols came. Song China had already failed before the Mongols conquered them.
+>You keep saying ecnomic output but dont go into detail. 
+I already did. 
+>Kublai Khan was known to fund his failed campaigns by printing money
+Meme.
+>Well considering this is political stabilty to you
+You don't know the definition of political stability nor could you spell it right.
+
+>>14993908
+If it was bait you two retards would be able to come up with a single counterpoint but you can't.
+--- 14993931
+>>14993918
+Low IQ cope.
+--- 14993936
+>>14993919
+>Song China was the lowpoint when Mongols came. Song China had already failed before the Mongols conquered them.
+No it didnt. It was still the largest eco omy even after the Jin conquered the North
+>I already did
+You didnt. You kept saying they were the best over and over again.
+>meme
+Not a proper response. You cant refute it so you try to dismiss it
+>You don't know the definition of political stability nor could you spell it right.
+A typo is your last stand? Either way you attempted to pass of a 90 year dynasty with 15 emperors as the most stable dynasty in chinese history. How retarded are you?
+>If it was bait you two retards would be able to come up with a single counterpoint but you can't
+Already did.
+--- 14993938
+>>14993931
+Is that it?
+--- 14993961
+>>14993936
+>No it didnt. It was still the largest eco omy even after the Jin conquered the North
+No it wasn't. They had already been defeated and their economy destroyed before the Mongols came and conquered the Song.
+>You didnt.
+I did. Mongol economy was an improvement over the Song they conquered.
+>Not a proper response.
+Strawman.
+>A typo is your last stand?
+No ESL retard it's the fact you don't know what "political stability" means and got basics wrong like "90 years".
+>Already did.
+You don't have a single one yet, retard.
+--- 14993970
+>>14987375 (OP)
+mostly by conquering Iraq and extracting rents, akhi
+--- 14993973
+>>14988782
+Urmia's next
+--- 14993981
+>>14993961
+>No it wasn't. They had already been defeated and their economy destroyed before the Mongols came and conquered the Song.
+Southern Song was rich. What a dumb contrarian. 
+>Mongol economy was an improvement over the Song they conquered.
+Except for the fact that it wasnt. It was regressive in every way
+>strawman
+Not a strawman and again not a response
+>No ESL retard it's the fact you don't know what "political stability" means and got basics wrong like "90 years".
+Fine 89 years. Makes it slightly worse. Kek. Dumbass
+>You don't have a single one yet, retard.
+I had plenty. Your mongolboo ass just cant accept that you're simping over trash empires.
+--- 14993990
+This isnt even a china thread. Some assblasted mongolboos just couldnt come up with a way to defend the ilkhanate.
+--- 14993993
+>>14990229
+the Safavids were mutts. Azeris were and are Iranians who switched to Turkish. Old Azeri was an Irani language very distinct from Kurdish.
+Now, the House of Sasan might have been Kurdish in origin . . .
+--- 14993998
+>>14987632
+Heavenly retribution for Manzikert.
+--- 14994026
+>>14993993
+>kurds and azeris we wuz fight
+Lmao. Poor safavids watching from above having to watch two sets of idiots trying to we wuz as them
+--- 14994050
+>>14993990
+>mongolboos
+
+Truly, John Green's fetishization of traditionally-understood-to-be-bad historical governments and its consequences have been a disaster for discussion about Asian history.
+--- 14994071
+>>14987632
+>>14993716
+>>14993878
+
+Pathetic idiots believing an anonymous post without sources, lol.
+--- 14994097
+>>14994071
+>Pathetic idiots believing an anonymous post without sources, lol.
+Its from volume 5 of the cambridge history of iran...
+--- 14994105
+>>14994071
+60 million comes from Yuan census data. You can claim its not accurate (the plebs just ran away but please ignore why they were running away) but the picture it presents is grim. As for the length of the dynasty anyone can check it with a simple search.
+--- 14994110
+>>14990229
+Kurdish/turkish mix, with cacausaus blood from Armenians and Georgians, as persian royals wanted to replace the t*rks with them. Safavids were based
+--- 14994139
+>>14994097
+Usually I would ask for pages, but good work quoting from a book that is likely behind a paywall.
+
+>>14994105
+
+> 60 million comes from Yuan census data.
+
+Which primary source contain this? Did you get the 60 million decline from an estimate (estimate not census) from 1200 China?
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_China
+
+It seems that the the post Han period was worse (only 8,200,000 population left in census), while the fall of the Yuan killed almost as many in less than half of the period (estimate of 120,359,000 to 65,000,000 in 42 years).
+--- 14994192
+>>14994139
+>Usually I would ask for pages, but good work quoting from a book that is likely behind a paywall
+Moron. Its easily attainable. 
+>Which primary source contain this?
+Jurchen Jin and S.Song census data which we do have compared to Yuan census data. And it shows a massive decrease around half the population. 
+
+>It seems that the the post Han period was worse (only 8,200,000 population left in census), while the fall of the Yuan killed almost as many in less than half of the period (estimate of 120,359,000 to 65,000,000 in 42 years).
+Both were terrible time periods. You ignored the rise of Yuan which caused a similar decrease of around half. Ill ignore that. There's no point comparing the two since this is about how mongolboos claim the census data is wrong to begin with but ill play along. 
+
+You don't know how to count either. The fall of Han is a time period twice as big and 42 million vs 60 million in half the time by the Yuan. The Yuan dynasty was a larger empire as well including many regions previous chinese empires did not have. They did not have the same big populations as China proper but they had populations in the millions. The situation is very grim.
+--- 14994199
+>>14994192
+--- 14994202
+>>14994199
+--- 14994212
+>>14994139
+>give me source
+>has a wikipedia article in his post
+Census data in wikipedia is fine but still funny. Maybe you should have posted a study on chinese census data rather than just wikipedia. Makes you look like a fool.
+--- 14994325
+>>14994192
+> Moron. Its easily attainable.
+
+Because it's so great to call other moron, while not providing a source if it's so easy to attain.
+
+> Jurchen Jin and S.Song census data which we do have compared to Yuan census data.
+
+Where?
+
+> You don't know how to count either. The fall of Han is a time period twice as big 
+
+No, the population loss to the Mongol was from 1200 to 1290 (20 to 30 years of this include war between the Xia, Jin and Song themselves). The population loss of the end of the Han was from 156 to 280 (124 years) not nearly twice the Mongol conquest.
+
+What's the census source for year 200?
+
+The fall of the Han even counting from a possible year 200 population was a bigger loss in term of proportion (likely more than 50% decline).
+
+The An Lushan Rebellion cause a loss of 36.019.309 of census population in 9 years. Almost WW 1 level of death (20 million in 4 years vs 36 million in 9 years)
+
+The fall of Yuan was 120 million minus millions in population outside China proper (maybe 10 millions) meaning its 110 million declining to 60 million still result in with 45 million population lost in 42 years in China proper and this was possibly measuring a population rise in the 32 years from the end of the Yuan. Measuring by census it was still around the level of decline similar to the Mongol conquest despite it being only a rebellion (29 million in 42 years).
+--- 14994338
+>>14994325
+>Because it's so great to call other moron, while not providing a source if it's so easy to attain. Imagine chimping out even after someone gives you a source. 
+Retard doesnt know what libgen is. 
+>No, the population loss to the Mongol...
+Again whats the point. The original point you or anither dude made was that the census data was wrong...
+--- 14994342
+>>14994325
+>despite it being only a rebellion
+Why are you downplaying the fall of an empire? Its juet disingenous post after disingenous post.
+--- 14994351
+>>14994338
+>>14994342
+Still not a single source.
+--- 14994363
+>>14993838
+>No, they never did, they killed swathes surely but 60 million is completely absurd. This number is based on the household census and doesn't account for the massive migration which closely follows steppe chimpouts.
+How do you go from this 
+To this>>14994325
+--- 14994370
+>>14994351
+I gave you a source. Not my problem if you're too stupid to figure out how get it.
+--- 14994411
+>>14994363
+Do you find this reliable?
+
+https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BA%BA%E5%8F%A3%E5%8F%B2
+
+1274年1,967,898户
+
+1290年13,196,206户
+
+That the number of households and therefore population of the Yuan increased more than 6 times in 16 years.
+--- 14994479
+Can chinks stop ruining this thread? I came here for Iran
+--- 14994708
+>>14993117
+Very ironic the golden horde was destroyed by their tax man.
+--- 14994739
+>>14987375 (OP)
+So just for the record, the mongols sucked at managing settled states the few times they got a chance and they are mid at best rulers on the steppe, right?
+
+Btw question, how much did the mongols outsource management to local rulers (outside the golden horde where they had vassals I mean)
+--- 14994742
+>>14994739
+Also why did the mongols invade SEA but not india.
+--- 14994849
+>>14994479
+Yeah can’t they make a seperate thread to argue in?
+
+Despite it this is still one of the best threads I’ve seen on here in a while. Usually nowadays it’s just religious people or low effort /Pol/ type stuff. I’ve learnt a bit and am more interested in reading Iranian and Chinese history now (especially because I can’t figure out who is right about China lol, I don’t know anything about Chinese history).
+--- 14994854
+>>14994849
+I'm thinking of someday starting an effort post thread about hawaii onceIget around to reading about it.

his/14987483.txt

@@ -23,3 +23,142 @@ he cute
 --- 14988586
 >>14987483 (OP)
 and why exactly did he think anybody wanted that clarified?
+--- 14989418
+>>14987483 (OP)
+.
+--- 14989432
+>>14989418
+--- 14989490
+>complains about drag queens
+>doesn't acknowledge that drag queens were a part of history
+--- 14989503
+>>14987483 (OP)
+Who is that.
+--- 14989613
+>>14989503
+He makes videos on English and Anglo-Saxon but somehow has been unable to actually learn Anglo-Saxon
+--- 14989634
+>>14987530
+rent free
+--- 14989672
+>>14987483 (OP)
+That video seems appropriate since most of his viewers are probably tradtard reactionary larpers. And he's educated and intelligent so he obviously despises them.
+--- 14989953
+poor anglos, forced to explicitly pay their allegiance and respects to the latest version of corporate religious dogmas
+they used to rule the seas you know
+--- 14990015
+>>14987483 (OP)
+For what purpose?
+--- 14990045
+>>14989672
+>educated and intelligent
+He's spent years studying Anglo-Saxon and the one time he went to properly use it he constantly made grammatical errors.
+--- 14990051
+>>14989672
+>bioleninist cattle pulling the "educated and intelligent"™ card
+you deformed freakshows will never not be hilarious
+--- 14990060
+>>14989953
+According to trans activists the UK is literally genociding trans people because you have to be diagnosed with gender disphoria to legally change your gender.
+--- 14990090
+I liked it when he made a video with some other person about black dialects in the US and loads of the viewers started bitching about it.
+--- 14990118
+>>14990060
+>diagnosed with gender disphoria
+Is that actually difficult?
+--- 14990212
+>>14987483 (OP)
+>roper
+it all makes sense now
+--- 14990213
+>>14990118
+Not at all, which makes the accusations of transphobia ridiculous.
+--- 14990223
+>>14990212
+Roper? I hardly knew 'er!
+--- 14990235
+>>14990051
+You are very genetically superior for never being able to read or do math that well.
+--- 14990242
+>>14990235
+>Everybody who disagrees with trannyism must be an American Trump supporter
+???
+--- 14990271
+>>14990235
+transer har en mental lidelse og det er den ENESTE mentale lidelsen hvor "behandlingen" er å late som at psykosen deres er virkelig.
+--- 14990370
+>>14989490
+>IT'S FRAU
+--- 14990546
+>>14989432
+Jesus Christ. Reading this makes me nauseous.
+--- 14990591
+>>14990235
+thankfully I'm not an amerimutt so I can see the sort of corporate flavor of the month ideology halfwit cattle like you mutters for what it is
+you are not cultured, you are well herded
+--- 14990617
+>>14989672
+The product of an educated society.
+--- 14990620
+>>14990591
+Meds.
+--- 14990629
+>>14990235
+BVLL energy
+--- 14990834
+>>14990271
+>men men transer!
+Ok? Sinna dverghjerne tapere fra /pol/ som prøver å kompensere med å kalle objektivt overlegne folk meme-ord er fortsatt patetiske.
+--- 14990840
+>>14989432
+>Says puberty blockers aren't versible
+>Goes on to state that they never got normal testosterone treatment and instead got estrogen
+>Upset because she wants a vaginoplasty
+This isn't proving what you think it does. If you take test after then it is reversible
+--- 14990887
+who gives a shit? live and let live
+you people are such repressed faggots it's unreal
+--- 14990895
+>who gives a shit? live and let live
+>you people are such repressed faggots it's unreal
+--- 14991145
+>>14990887
+Even if you support trannies, what is the point of making a completely irrelevant video talking about how much you love trannies on a Youtube history channel? It just comes across as weird and obsessed.
+--- 14991235
+>>14987483 (OP)
+Anglo without religion is like a dog without a leash, but instead of biting people, it starts mutilating itself and calling itself a girl..
+--- 14991841
+>>14991235
+--- 14991867
+>>14990060
+Amazing how the UK consistently manages to evoke the wrath of the Far Right AND Far Left over the most meaningless things lmao 
+>Aaaaaaaa trans genocide because medical experts are needed to confirm a surgical procedure AAAA!!!
+--- 14991878
+>>14989490
+crossdressing was a joke that both german and allied soldiers did.
+it was like blackface
+--- 14991897
+>who gives a shit? live and let live
+--- 14991965
+>>14991867
+>Amazing how the UK consistently manages to evoke the wrath of the Far Right AND Far Left over the most meaningless things lmao
+--- 14992195
+>>14991878
+Which is what the screeching lefties today pretend isn't the case, which is hilarious. They disingenuously take what was formerly an open exaggerated and comedic mockery of femininity and say "LOOK YOU LIKED IT BEFORE!!"
+
+Same time period when the man of the house was slapping around his kitchen-oriented wife, of course. But they turn a blind eye to that widespread reality when it's convenient for them.
+--- 14993088
+>>14987483 (OP)
+the absolute state of bongs
+--- 14993235
+>>14991878
+>>14992195
+In a hundred years when whites are extinct and some cultureless quadroon is having an identity crisis, he will pull up an old pic of a blackfaced fag and claim that trans racialism has a historical precedent
+--- 14993308
+>>14991841
+--- 14993615
+>>14993235
+>an old pic of a blackfaced fag
+--- 14994246
+>>14993308
+Cringe

his/14987519.txt

@@ -72,3 +72,94 @@ Large amount of Scandinavia would be under Soviet rule, they will het independen
 --- 14989029
 >>14987552
 Why would you think that ?
+--- 14989754
+>>14989015
+>pagan Scandinavia 
+>posts Catholic German wank building
+--- 14989840
+>>14989005
+It's why Indian, Chinese and Japanese folk religions survived Christianity and Islam better than other folk religions, they had writings explaining the beliefs, philosophies and rituals. They had bureaucratic institutions capable of resisting change. The Celtic, Germanic/Norse and Baltics had no such institutions, they had a rudimentary writing system but never had a reformed religious system. Compare Northern folk religions to Greco-Roman paganism, emperors like Julian and even after, were forced to repeatedly make laws against practicing paganism. It has writings, official temples supported by the state, and was protected by the Senate even after it was banned.
+--- 14989842
+>>14989840
+>Julian 
+Typo, I meant Justinian.
+--- 14989864
+>>14987519 (OP)
+>if they remained pagan
+implying they didnt?
+--- 14991080
+>>14989864
+Normal scandis were really disturbed and shocked by this btw. None of the losers who did it were pagan either, just rich kids looking to rebel. Should’ve gone abroad for a year in Brazil or something instead of doing a some death metal larp
+--- 14991184
+>>14987519 (OP)
+--- 14991202
+>>14987519 (OP)
+Not cucked
+--- 14991218
+>>14989005
+Look up Pletho.
+--- 14991232
+>>14991218
+>"We are Hellenes by race and culture"
+Why do modern people claim that nobody had a concept of race back then?
+--- 14991789
+>>14987519 (OP)
+Funnily enough they’d probably be less romanticizing of the Norse and Vikings especially in Germany who’d make up the majority of any crusading force against them. Chances are the nazis would go so far as to claim that Scandinavia remaining pagan was actually a Jewish plot and that Christianity was actually the TRUE aryan religion
+--- 14992007
+>>14991184
+Kek
+--- 14992590
+>>14991218
+I'm having trouble finding information about him. I can't seem to find out if there was an actual continuation of pagan beliefs with him or if he was just a late medieval neo-pagan.
+--- 14993592
+>>14989005
+Realistically I think the best shot for a “reformed” Norse religion is a combination of developing a strong literary tradition(they'd just have to use paper for that) as well as a sort of “Viking Charlemagne” to conqueror most of Scandinavia for a time and centralize the faith to secure his power. Creating both a shared Scandinavian identity and a strong priestly class who’d actively oppose Christianity.
+--- 14993606
+>>14989004
+>>14989023
+UGH
+--- 14993610
+>>14993606
+--- 14993680
+>>14993592
+Clovis could have done that or at least have laid the foundation for that if he hadn't converted.
+--- 14993690
+>>14987519 (OP)
+They wouldnt be cucks being killed off by arabs
+--- 14993696
+>>14992590
+He was the one who rehabilitated Plato during the era of the Scholastics. His pagan beliefs were likely in tune with the Socratic idea of the noble lie from the Republic ie he saw it as necessary to unite the Hellens.
+--- 14993705
+>>14992590
+>actual continuation of pagan beliefs
+>centuries after the final hellenic holdouts in the mani peninsula have been been converted to orthodoxy
+Come on anon
+--- 14993709
+>>14993705
+There is roughly a zero percent chance Gemistos Plethon was an actual Paganist. He was however a Neoplatonist and probably believed in the Forms.
+--- 14993789
+>>14993709
+His neoplatonist LARP included retvrning to the hellenic religion
+>I myself heard him at Florence ... asserting that in a few more years the whole world would accept one and the same religion with one mind, one intelligence, one teaching. And when I asked him "Christ’s or Muhammad’s?," he said, "Neither; but it will not differ much from paganism." I was so shocked by these words that I hated him ever after and feared him like a poisonous viper, and I could no longer bear to see or hear him. I heard, too, from a number of Greeks who escaped here from the Peloponnese that he openly said before he died ... that not many years after his death Muhammad and Christ would collapse and the true truth would shine through every region of the globe.
+>Plethon's apparent concern in De differentiis for Christian beliefs and dogma was belied by a still more controversial work, the Nomoi, which advocated a return to a polytheistic religion. Here Plethon described a Neoplatonic hierarchy of gods to whom he gave the names of the pagan pantheon. He included the text of prayers to these gods and set out the manner in which their worship should be conducted.
+--- 14993794
+>>14993789
+Yes, see my comment above. He liked the greek religion because of its racial ties to his country not because he thought it had philosophical insight.
+--- 14993809
+>>14987552
+/thread
+--- 14993812
+>>14993789
+>Here Plethon described a Neoplatonic hierarchy of gods to whom he gave the names of the pagan pantheon. He included the text of prayers to these gods and set out the manner in which their worship should be conducted.
+
+Neoplatonists certainly believe in Gods but the transcendent One is the supreme order. They do not for example, view the gods as creators of the world. Also Plethon's most famous work is a treatise on why Plato is superior to Aristotle.
+--- 14993839
+>>14989840
+Oh get fucked they had plenty of writings. This idea that christians brought writing wherever they conquered and destroyed the indigenous culture has been proven false revionist bullshit a million times.
+--- 14994002
+>>14993839
+care to show us these pre-christain Norse/Baltic writings?
+--- 14994028
+>>14989864
+>>14991080
+This lol

his/14987607.txt

@@ -47,3 +47,99 @@ Such an unbelievable contortion of history, lol. embarrassing.
 100 years ago natives of Ethiopia and america didnt know the other country existed and yet jews from both countries put on the exact same black boxes with the exact same words written in them, to the letter.
 
 You goyim are so full of shit.
+--- 14989501
+>>14988268
+The ehtiopiams are fake jews they had no teffilin you should of used jews in Poland and yemin as examples here but we new each outher existed
+--- 14990634
+>>14989501
+Huh? Fake jews?
+--- 14990637
+>>14990634
+Yea they are genticly the same as regular Ethiopians and they had no knowledge of the oral Torah they are not realy Jewish a t all
+--- 14991339
+>>14988268
+please don't think these retards represent goyim
+--- 14991376
+>>14987607 (OP)
+Jamie, pull up that haplo-autism!
+--- 14991619
+>>14989501
+The closest populations to ancient Jews are Samaritans.
+
+Yemenite Jews are pure South Arabian Arabs, they are literally Arabians that converted to Judaism before Mohammed .
+Ashkenazi Jews have mostly European ancestry.
+--- 14991658
+>>14987686
+retard, hebrew comes from evri (עברי) which translates as "one who passes" i.e. passed the red sea. Habiru does not refer to hebrews 100% and regardless is an exoname
+--- 14991670
+>>14987665
+So Christcucks are low iq midwits that take the Bible at face value whiles Jews are chads that outsmarted God himself
+--- 14992019
+>>14990637
+>they had no knowledge of the oral Torah they are not realy Jewish
+
+that actually suggests they are the real Jews
+
+oral torah is a fabrication
+--- 14993007
+>>14991619
+>are literally Arabians that converted to Judaism before Mohammed .
+Yes and there still more Jewish than Ethiopians fakes
+>>14992019
+Cope harder goy the oral Torah was passed from Moshe rabeinu to yeshua Ben nun and so in down the generations we have the chain recorded all of us real jews from Yemen to Poland the Ethiopians do not cuase they are fakes and retarded 70iq savages I live in Israel I know first hand
+--- 14993021
+Main difference is Judaism is a platonic religion which believes in an immortal soul
+--- 14993073
+>>14991658
+I dont think that can be true because Joseph gets called a Hebrew in Genesis, before the red sea split.
+--- 14993239
+>>14993007
+>>14993007
+the so-called oral torah is not mentioned in the Law of Moses once, there is nothing but the word of rebbes which I do not accept without a good reason
+
+go ahead and provide a source in the histories, or the prophets, or the pentateuch for the penultimate source of the Talmud
+
+you won't find it there
+
+>muh chain
+
+Xdoubt.png
+--- 14993290
+*ahem*
+
+Josephus Flavius, Jewish Antiquities 13:297:
+
+"The Pharisees had passed on to the people certain regulations handed down by previous generations, but not written down in the Law of Moses. For this they were rejected by the Sadducee party."
+
+
+IF the oral torah is actually as old as the rebbes claim, THEN there would not have been such a disagreement over it during the time of the Second Temple.
+
+protip, the Pharisees were deviant in their teachings and in their conduct
+--- 14993294
+>>14987607 (OP)
+term Israelite also includes Samaritans along with Jews.
+Thats the only difference.
+--- 14993464
+with all that said, I accept the Talmud as a collection of commentaries on the Torah built up over the centuries after the Romans razed the Temple
+
+but it is not a secret oral Torah and it is hence not inspired, to claim otherwise it is pure cope and notably the only means by which certain religious figures might claim authoritativeness and legitimacy
+--- 14993511
+in short Beta Israel (Aethiopian Jewery) are as real Jews as the Sadducees were
+
+and the state of Israel engaged in a campaign of clandestine sterilization against their women folk
+--- 14993522
+>>14993464
+>with all that said, I accept the Talmud as a collection of commentaries on the Torah built up over the centuries after the Romans razed the Temple
+i will ruin this thread by saying Torah is a commentary on lost Book of Jasher. Talmud is a commentary on a commentary.
+>>14993511
+Sadduccees rejected existence of divinity, thye didnt beleived ni angels perhaps they even rejected existence of God
+--- 14994554
+>>14993464
+>with all that said, I accept the Talmud as a collection of commentaries on the Torah built up over the centuries after the Romans razed the Temple
+>but it is not a secret oral Torah
+the talmud is a commentary on the oral torah
+--- 14994590
+>>14993239
+All the time in Torah when it says Moses spoke to the elders, oral Torah is how we know to make tefilin
+>>14993511
+Both of these statements are false but I wish we did sterilize their woman they are subhuman vermin would trade ever one for two arabs if I could

his/14987798.txt

@@ -58,3 +58,66 @@ I think I have to go with caesar, Napoleon couldn't handle going full retard lik
 >not a single nordcuck
 
 Scandi sisters?
+--- 14989363
+>>14989177
+>Muh succession and legacy
+midwit take
+--- 14989366
+>>14987798 (OP)
+>2 goblins remembered for some goblin tribal wars with other goblins
+>1 goblin that got cucked and lost to russians after ruining other goblins empire.
+None is great
+They are just circlejerk for servile incels
+--- 14989394
+>>14987798 (OP)
+Napoleon > Caesar > Alex
+--- 14989956
+>>14988122
+And that's a good thing
+--- 14991168
+>>14987798 (OP)
+Alexander.
+--- 14991172
+>>14987819
+fpbp
+--- 14991520
+>>14987798 (OP)
+Napoleon, and I hate the French
+--- 14991561
+>>14987798 (OP)
+Chingis Khan.
+--- 14991577
+>>14987798 (OP)
+Caesar, by far. Akexander and Napoleon both inherited the best armies of their times while Caesar built his own up from the ground and won victories against 10 to 20 times their numbers.
+--- 14991591
+It should really be between Alex, Nappy, and Genghis Khan
+Julius Caesar is honestly in the little leagues and is much more important historically in terms of domestic issues than he was as a "conqueror". Taking Gaul is cool and all but it's not even as impressive as beating Carthage.
+--- 14991602
+>>14991520
+>I hate X, X are not white, i type them with * kek, kek le contrarian kek
+kys zoomoid
+--- 14991802
+>>14989394
+>muh chart
+--- 14991987
+>>14988036
+Caesar, my allegiance is to the Republic, TO DEMOCRACY!
+--- 14992241
+>>14987798 (OP)
+>Who was the greatest?
+Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
+--- 14992395
+>>14992241
+He'd be nowhere without Khalid Ibn Al Walid
+--- 14994511
+>>14987819
+fpbp
+>>14991172
+so did Napoleon.
+--- 14994763
+>>14988757
+>His conquests post-Munda are legit and validate his reputation
+huh?
+--- 14994771
+>>14994763
+He is from the other timeline.

his/14987990.txt

@@ -520,3 +520,942 @@ Mind you, I know that later on they did exert control over which books could be
 With some notable exceptions like Remarque, it's also mostly garbage, much of it erotica and other kinds of smut.
 
 The truth is ultimately that Germany never had freedom of speech and assembly like it exists in the US. Not under the Kaiser, not in the Weimar Republic, not under Hitler, and not now. The Federal Republic of Germany certainly has banned far more books than the NS regime or the Kaiser ever did. Not to mention all those videos on YouTube, Odysee and BitChute that can't be watched due to complaints from Germany's political secret police, holy shit.
+--- 14990031
+bump
+--- 14990086
+>>14989120
+>Then why does it say that it's a guideline for librarians in public libraries as to which books they may get rid of, but explicitly states that they do not have to throw them away unless they can easily be replaced with better books?
+You are lying. It's very clearly describing a public list of banned books as reported on >>14988940. It mentions that these books are part of the "black lists", specifically, and the goal of getting libraries rid of these books, some of which are to be throughroughly destroyed across Germany. I will post the full translation of the text so that you cannot squirm away.
+
+>The edition, which is made available to the public library (people's library) in the new state, corresponds to Mussolini's motto: "Book and box—that is my command." This means that the cultural-political aim of the people's libraries lies in the intellectual defence, the total mobilization of the German people with the help of genuine literature. The first step towards this goal is the spontaneous attempt everywhere to concentrate the work equipment and book stocks of the libraries on the essentials. This process, which took place in a thoroughly orderly manner wherever experts took action, soon became known to the general public through the inquisitorial catchphrase of "black lists." It was never about iconoclasm, but about more, namely the development of new selection and value principles in the field of popular literature and literary criticism. The standards according to which the black lists were drawn up are of course of a literary-political nature. For them, the fundamental preliminary question that is necessary for every political decision applies: Who is the real enemy? Who is the fight against? The answer is given in a fundamental statement, which has been recognized by the Prussian Ministry for Science, Art and Public Education and has been declared binding for the state library advisory offices in the country. This declaration states:
+--- 14990092
+>>14990086
+>»The fight is directed against the signs of decomposition of our species-specific way of thinking and living, against the asphalt literature, which was written mainly for the people of the big city, in order to strengthen and completely uproot them in their disconnection with the environment, with the people and with any community. It is the literature of intellectual nihilism. The term "asphalt literature" is then defined in detail as follows: "This literary genre has predominantly, but not only, Jewish representatives. But not every Jewish writer is an asphalt writer, e.g. B. represents the criticism that the Zionist Emanuel bin Gorion has always leveled at the literary assimilation Jews, the Jewish-national principle. It goes on to say: “Not everyone is a cultural Bolshevik. Dostoevsky and Tolstoy do not belong on the Index (without Dostoevsky, no Moeller van den Bruck!). There is no need to acquire new Russians, any more than all new Russians (e.g. Fadeyev, Farasov-Rodinov) need to be destroyed'. About the technical methods according to which the cleansing is to be carried out, it is said: “It is advisable, in principle, to have a copy of each book, even the most dangerous one, in the large city, to keep asphalt literati and Marxists in the poison cupboard. This applies above all to scientific Marxist literature, which of course is not available in public libraries. Technically, the cleaning is to be carried out in stages, depending on the possible new acquisitions to fill in the gaps that have arisen with German literature. It is most practical to divide the books blocked for lending into three groups: Group 1 falls prey to destruction (auto-da-fe), e.g. B. Remarque, Group 2 goes in the poison cupboard, e.g. B. Lenin, Marx, group 3 contains the doubtful cases, which are to be examined in detail, whether they later belong to group 1 or 2, e.g. B.Traven«
+--- 14990103
+>>14990092
+And it was extensive to the book trade as well...
+
+>On the other hand, some of the names on the list, such as Bonsels, Edschmid, Schäffer, appear to be textbook examples of how the book trade can never go further than the public library, which after its standards Recht on Bonsels' latest publications etc. believes to be able to do without. The printed black list therefore needs to be reduced to a level that the book trade can bear. The twelve authors marked with a cross (f) on the list played the leading roles in the auto-da-fes that were being held in the Reich in those days. They must be regarded as the actual pests that would also have to be eradicated for the book trade. So the authors are: Lion Feuchtwanger, Ernst Gläser, Arthur Holitscher, Alfred Kerr, Egon Erwin Kisch, Emil Ludwig, Heinrich Mann, Ernst Ottwalt, Theodor Plivier, E. M. Remarque, Kurt Tucholsky and Arnold Zweig. It goes without saying that in addition to these twelve authors, who represent only a minimum, a general formulation should also be striven for, on the basis of which above all erotic dirt and filth should be kept away from the German book trade can. Completely analogous to this is the task that will be the main task and for which the cleansing should only create the prerequisites, namely to draw up positive "white lists" for a future planned book policy, with the help of which the intellectual face of the creative nation can be shaped by the book can. The first approaches to white lists have already been tackled locally in many cases. They only require a systematic summary*). Finally, it still needs to be emphasized that the benevolent interest of the Kampfbund für Deutsche Kultur as well as the Schutzverband Deutscherschriften is given for all these efforts. By collaborating with them, the book trade organizations have the opportunity to place those non-German authors on a Reich list, which must be equally binding for the publisher and the product range.
+--- 14990109
+>>14990086
+>>14990092
+>>14990103
+1933 BTW, they had JUST came to power and they were already banning books both from public libraries, private collections and the book trade. (bookstores)
+
+Auto-da-fe refers to the book burnings. Notice their main focus of hate here is EM Remarque (the guy who wrote All Quiet on the Western Front), rather than Marx, Lenin or tranny books. They hated the pacifist German above all.
+--- 14990209
+>>14989120
+>oh no, not my trite Communist propaganda novels, what will we do without such high literature!
+I'd like to point out that exactly at the time this guideline for public libraries was drawn up, the Communists were murdering millions of people in Ukraine:
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
+
+Communism had also just recently proven to represent an immediate threat to Germany not long ago due to the establishment of a Jewish-run Soviet terror state in Bavaria:
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic
+(note how the last act of the Jews running this regime was to take German civilians as hostages, and subsequently murdering those hostages as the Freikorps moved in to liberate the city)
+
+For comparison, the regime in Berlin right now saw it fit to block access to rt.com and other Russian news outlets. This act of censorship is being defended as "necessary" by the very same people who whine about the Nazis getting communist books out of public libraries and doing a symbolic book burning bonfire.
+Same thing withe the "Denazification" campaign, which systematically destroyed the art and literature of an entire generation:
+>a list was drawn up of over 30,000 book titles, ranging from school textbooks to poetry, which were then banned. All copies of books on the list were confiscated and destroyed; the possession of a book on the list was made a punishable offense. All the millions of copies of these books were to be confiscated and destroyed
+>Artworks were under the same censorship as other media, leading to the destruction of thousands of paintings and thousands more were shipped to deposits in the US. Those confiscated paintings still surviving in US custody include for example a painting "depicting a couple of middle aged women talking in a sunlit street in a small town".
+--- 14990239
+>>14990209
+>Whataboutism
+You claimed the Nazis never banned books.
+You lost.
+
+And your comparison is flawed because in 1933 the Nazis were just getting started. Hitler would match the number of civilians Stalin killed and and destroy countless of books, art pieces and historical monuments.
+--- 14990433
+>>14988982
+>It's a Nazi newspaper
+No? It's a German magazine
+--- 14990465
+>>14990239
+No? Jews use a list of suggestions for the removal of Marxist novels from circulation with the banning of evolutionary science. I think that's a win for non-jews exposing the propaganda behind Nazi censorship
+--- 14990472
+>>14988646
+>unreasonable demands
+stop telling kids to mutilate themselves
+Simple as
+Stop hosting child brothels
+Simple as
+Stop stealing, frauding, and murdering people you dont like.
+like, just act like human beings
+--- 14990477
+>>14990433
+Page one.
+--- 14990482
+>>14990477
+Front Cover
+--- 14990487
+>>14990465
+The banning of evolutionary science came later and a source was provided for that, too. >>14988569
+
+Counter-proof provided by /pol/yps: 0 (zero)
+--- 14990491
+>>14990482
+Man of the Year =/= Front cover literally says Hail Hitler!
+--- 14990499
+>>14988378
+Goebbels was a big fan of Dostoyevsky. His works also weren't banned. It probably was burned simply because it was Russian so they just threw it on there. Same for Tolstoy although that degenerate freak would deserve to be banned
+--- 14990503
+>>14990491
+True, man of the year is much more prestigious as HH is just a mere formality, like how even anti Trump articles will say "MAGA"
+--- 14990517
+>>14990499
+Well I actually did learn something from this thread (as a result of my own research for dealing with the /pol/bots and not because this board is actually any good) and that is that the first book burnings were disorganized as fuck and all sorts of random shit was burned, the black lists came later.
+
+>>14990503
+Cope.
+--- 14990523
+>>14990086
+>I will post the full translation of the text
+You say that, and then slyly proceed to leave out the passage in the upper left corner of >>14989120 which I will translate here, with emphasis preserved from the original German:
+>This list names all books and which MAY be removed as part of the cleansing process from the *public* libraries. Whether *all* of them *must* be removed is dependent on in how far the gaps can be filled with NEW acquisitions.
+>The list is not intended to say anything about the actual inventory of the individual libraries. It is merely a general guide for the librarians and commissioners tasked with the cleansing process.
+
+>>14990239
+>You claimed the Nazis never banned books.
+Wrong, I specifically said:
+>Mind you, I know that later on they did exert control over which books could be published
+
+>You lost.
+No, your inability to grasp that there's more than one person replying to you in this thread doesn't mean I've lost anything, it just means you're dumb.
+
+>rather than Marx, Lenin or tranny books. They hated the pacifist German above all.
+I did already acknowledge in >>14989120 that Remarque stands out on this list.
+Besides that, Stefan Zweig was Jewish, Adam Zweig was Jewish, Kurt Tucholsky was Jewish... lots of authors on the priority list who aren't just "German pacifists."
+The Jewish religion as expressed in the Talmud specifically advocates for the extermination of the German people (see Megillah 6b where it proclaims Germans to be part of "Edom" i.e. Satanic and to be exterminated), and there is an extensive body of Rabbinic literature explaining that this is to be done through subterfuge and intellectual games, including pretending to be non-religious. I would actually be in favor of banning most books by Jewish authors and reserving them solely for purposes of critical study, perhaps exempting books from Jewish authors who have expressly distanced themselves from these genocidal tendencies of their national religion.
+--- 14990562
+>>14990523
+>This list names all books and which MAY be removed as part of the cleansing process from the *public* libraries. Whether *all* of them *must* be removed is dependent on in how far the gaps can be filled with NEW acquisitions.
+>The list is not intended to say anything about the actual inventory of the individual libraries. It is merely a general guide for the librarians and commissioners tasked with the cleansing process.
+How does that contradict the rest of the passage? I did leave stuff out because there's a character limit on each post. There's two lists mentioned on that magazine, the first is the black list of books to be removed from public libraries or outright destroyed, the second list which is shorter concerns those books that would also be banned from bookstores and private libraries.
+
+>The Jewish religion as expressed in the Talmud specifically advocates for the extermination of the German people (see Megillah 6b where it proclaims Germans to be part of "Edom" i.e. Satanic and to be exterminated), and there is an extensive body of Rabbinic literature explaining that this is to be done through subterfuge and intellectual games, including pretending to be non-religious. I would actually be in favor of banning most books by Jewish authors and reserving them solely for purposes of critical study, perhaps exempting books from Jewish authors who have expressly distanced themselves from these genocidal tendencies of their national religion.
+Schizo shit, they also banned non-Jewish authors. Do I need to keep going through that magazine to find what the black lists looked like after 1935, 1938 and so on before you concede?
+--- 14990603
+>>14990487
+>Jew claiming his failed attempt to convince anybody the germans de facto banned books is concrete enough to claim without evidence they also banned evolutionary science
+--- 14990613
+>>14987990 (OP)
+>Is the push to ban certain books in schools comparable to it?
+I like how nobody itt even noticed this bait kek
+--- 14990614
+>>14990477
+Again that's not a nazi paper, that's a weekly magazine for people interested in the book market called the Börsenblatt which existed long before the nazis
+--- 14990619
+>>14987990 (OP)
+>Could something like this (preventing the spread of certain ideologies) ever happen in the digital age? 
+Yes. It's more difficult for sure, but it can happen and does happen right now.
+>Is the push to ban certain books in schools comparable to it?
+Yes.
+--- 14990627
+>>14990487
+>Counter-proof provided
+>You have to prove my lies wrong, I don't have to prove it happened.
+The holocaust is also a lie.
+
+But the psychopath jews did run open air death camps and kill German POWs and civilians. 
+
+Funny how nobody talks about the Katyn forest massacre anymore either. Used to be always talked about until we learned it was the judeo-bolshevik USSR that committed it.
+
+Really strange cohencidences. Almost like the Bible is true when it calls Jews evil, a cursed people, hated by God and contrary to all men.
+--- 14990675
+>>14990603
+https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Liste_verbotener_Autoren_w%C3%A4hrend_der_Zeit_des_Nationalsozialismus?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-419&_x_tr_pto=wapp
+>On a "list of harmful and undesirable literature", which has been published regularly since 1935 by the Reich Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda , or more precisely by the " Reich Literature Chamber ", there were finally 12,400 titles and the complete works of 149 authors who, because of their humanistic, democratic or were persecuted and banned because of their socialist attitude or because of their Jewish origin.
+--- 14990683
+>>14990675
+
+>In 1935, the Nazi organ "Die Bücherei 2:6" listed the literature that was forbidden or to be sorted out:
+>The works of traitors, emigrants and authors from foreign peoples who believe they can fight and belittle the new Germany. ( H.G. Wells , Rolland ).
+>The Literature of Marxism , Communism , Bolshevism .
+>The pacifist literature.
+>The liberalist-democratic tendencies and sentiment literature and the propagandists of the Weimar state ( Walther Rathenau , Heinrich Mann ).
+>All works on history that are designed to belittle the origin, the nature and the culture of the German people, to dissolve the German people's order in its type and race, to deny the power and importance of great leaders in favor of the masses due to the idea of equality and their size in to drag the dirt ( Emil Ludwig ).
+>Writings of an ideological and life-scientific character, the content of which is the false scientific explanation of primitive Darwinism and monism ( Haeckel ).
+>Books about the arts whose representatives of the degenerate, bloodless, purely constructive “art” are positively acknowledged ( Grosz , Dix , Bauhaus , Mendelsohn ).
+>Writings on sex education and sex education that serve the selfish pleasure of the individual and thus have a highly destructive effect on the people and race ( Hirschfeld ).
+>The decadent, destructive, anti-popular literature of the “asphalt and civilization literati” ( Graf , H. Mann , Stefan Zweig , Wassermann , Franz Blei ).
+>The literature of Jewish authors, no matter which areas.
+>The social and entertainment literature in which life and life goals are presented in a superficial, untrue and sugary way on the basis of a bourgeois or feudal view of life.
+>The nationalistic, patriotic kitsch in literature ( PO Höcker ).
+--- 14990688
+>>14990683
+
+>Book ban of the SS
+>On June 9, 1941, the Reich Security Main Office (the ideological department of the SS for “fighting opponents of the National Socialist world view ” headed by Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler ) issued a decree according to which “printed materials that are not included in the list of harmful and undesirable Scriptures have been classified”, were forbidden. This decree was only published in the "Order Sheet of the Chief of the Security Police and SD " of June 9, 1941. The more than 300 titles were predominantly religious, philosophical, sometimes also metaphysical and often trivial titles at first glance. The Gestapo confiscated until February 1945 books such as The Crime as an Illness by Georg Bonne (1927), Der Herrgott im Schützengraben by Max Biber or Medicinal Herbs in the Service of Beauty . Almost all of the authors on the list have been forgotten, and many of their works are not even included in the list of writings that were not allowed to be displayed between 1933 and 1945 (published by the German Library in Leipzig). The fact that Heinrich Himmler – contrary to what is often assumed – played an active role in Nazi literary policy is proven by the preamble to the “List of Harmful and Unwanted Writings”, in which Himmler was given censorship powers and, in addition to the bans, Joseph Goebbels as President of the Reich Chamber of Culture , could issue an "additional ban".
+--- 14990693
+>>14990614
+I found the original 1935 "List of Harmful and Undesirable Literature", published by the Reich Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.
+
+Official government document.
+"Darwinism" is listed there.
+Cope seethe and dilate, /pol/tranny.
+
+https://sammlungen.ulb.uni-muenster.de/hd/periodical/pageview/2539716
+--- 14990705
+>>14990675
+>Uhm the nahtzees had "blacklists" and banned intellectual books outside of marxism
+>our source? uhm, ONE librarian made a blacklist for book burnings which mostly pertained to marxism or anti german rhetoric which has nothing to do with intellectual book removal in libraries 
+>I know I'm implying that these two are the same things when they're not
+Okay but this has nothing to do with the list in the magazine for book advertisement does it?
+
+You're really grasping at straws
+--- 14990711
+>>14990693
+Front cover proving its an official document
+--- 14990716
+>>14990705
+Oh boy your post did not age well. Check the link right above and rope yourself.
+--- 14990723
+>>14990716
+Yes yet another source has been posted that I'm sure isn't irrelevant like the last 5 sources you've posted and lied about
+--- 14990730
+>>14990723
+/pol/nigs utterly buckbroken and BTFO
+My job here is done.
+--- 14990744
+The Nazis were goofballs. They like theatrics and dramatic gestures. Commies banned more books than them, but they did it silently, so today no one talks about their censorship, but everyone remembers the Nazi book burning as a symbol of barbarism. 
+
+They were kind of silly like that.
+--- 14990746
+>>14990730
+>government machinery was created to remove ideologically unsound textbooks from libraries but never completed by design because the regime failed to find contemporary books to replace them
+hmm
+--- 14990750
+>>14990746
+It's over /pol/turd.
+--- 14990754
+>>14990750
+Are you going to let me debunk the other document or are you going to keep posting non-replies like the tranny you are?
+--- 14990762
+>>14990744
+>Commies are cowards and liars. Nazis just do what they say is true and good.
+
+We already knew this.
+--- 14990799
+>>14990762
+No, they just liked a big spectacle.
+--- 14990815
+>>14990799
+No. You simply confuse people who do what they say for the various subversions, lies, media manipulations and showmanship do to justify the evils you commit.
+--- 14990821
+>>14987990 (OP)
+They should've thrown the jews in those fires and actually did the holocaust.
+
+Jews are an evil parasite race, as prophesied by scripture.
+--- 14990832
+>>14990821
+Holocaust happened. Jews are normal people like you and me. 
+
+>>14990815
+I'm not a fan of Nazis. They also lied a lot, so I certainly wouldn't call them honorable.
+--- 14990854
+>they were just burning Jewish and tranny books!
+>actually no, they burned Spinoza, Remarque, Hemingway, HG Wells. They also banned a shitload of non-Jewish, non-Marxist authors. They even banned Darwinism.
+>Never happened! Jew lies! Where is da proof?
+>This magazine contains the first black lists published in 1933, they mention Remaque was burned.
+>This book also mentions Darwinism being banned
+>That's just a random magazine! Where is da proof! The book is fake!
+>Here's the 1935 official list from the Reich Ministry of Propaganda where you can find all these authors, and a bunch of others, 12,400 titles and the complete works of 149 authors. Darwinism included.
+>T-that's a lie stop posting!
+
+Hillarious thread
+--- 14990864
+>>14990832
+I'm not a fan of Nazis either, but they didn't lie afaik. Maybe you can find some some fringe individual or case, but they did what they said unlike most cuck politicians who only care about reelection.
+
+That being said of course like all human leaders they are deeply flawed. Do you faggots see why we need direct democracy yet?
+
+>>14990832
+>Jews are normal people like you and me.
+A "normal people" that hated and subverted their host nations. A lot of problems could be solved if they simply left, integrated or simply hated the German tax payers they relied on less.
+
+The same can be said for modern migrants who hate their European hosts. They integrate or leave otherwise another holocaust is very plausible and even likely.
+--- 14990880
+>>14990864
+>direct democrazy
+yeah, it's never been tried and we are in bad spot so let's just give it a go, i promise nothing will go wrong.
+--- 14990896
+>>14990864
+After Munich they said they won't demand more territories and then they invaded Czechia and demanded Klaipeda. So that's a lie. 
+They also murdered their comrades in 1934. They lied about Kristallnacht and a bunch of other things.
+--- 14990910
+>>14990854
+>Spinoza
+jew
+>Remark, Hemmingway, Wells
+anti-state books.
+>shitload of non-jewish
+nope
+>non-marxist
+nope
+>banned Darwinism
+not even once.
+also
+>the book of Darwinism
+yes the famous work titled "Darwinism"
+
+I mean in fairness "Darwinism" is also banned by the USA, Wikipedia, the EU, and the UK.
+
+Evolution stops at the neck :)
+--- 14990915
+>>14990832
+>Bank-Fried
+>Zelensky
+>Epstein
+>Weinstein
+>Rosenberg
+>Warburg
+>Soros
+
+yes, all totally normal people who do not operate in poisonous or vile ways relative to non-jews in their sphere.
+--- 14990916
+>>14990910
+See >>14990693
+149 authors
+
+Cope seethe and dilate /pol/tranny.
+--- 14990959
+>>14990916
+BTW by 1939 it had expanded to 4,175 individual works and 565 bans on whole authors. Do you want me to look for the 1939 edition?
+--- 14990969
+>>14990880
+>it's never been tried
+It has partially on a local level in Switzerland and it is fucking gloriously efficient. The Germanic part of Switzerland is the best place to live on the planet by far.
+
+>>14990896
+Did they? They said from the start that they want all the land taken from Germany in WW1 returned since they consider the treaty illegitimate. It's mostly Anglo cope press and Times that pretended he wants peace. Night of Long Knives is less forgivable, but they were right that Röhm was seeking power and basically spouting commie shit and wanting a second revolution. Violence should be answered with violence.
+
+It's all a moot point for me though to be clear, nationalism was a mistake. Pan-Europeanism is the future.
+--- 14990988
+>>14990969
+Those were not German lands before WW1. They belonged to Austria-Hungary.
+--- 14991126
+Almost all book burnings were done by independent student organizations. This is why nobody can actually name what books were permitted by the government to burn, because largely they weren't permitted. While it wasn't permitted, libraries and local authorities often allowed it to happen. This is when the tranny institute was raided and its books burned. 
+
+The general guidelines of the raids were committed along the suggestions of the "blacklist" created by a Librarian called Wolfgang Hermann, one of his motivations for creating the list was in order to advance his position in Nazi popularity by demonstrating his loyalty and to overtake rival librarian organizations. 
+
+"Lending Libraries" were said to have switched to stocking "smutt and filth" for unemployed socialists during the Weimar era and originally the goal was to remove erotica from public circulation. The rapid progression of this movement lead the librarians to instead suggest a complete reorganization of german public libraries by removing all books pertaining to "cultural Bolshevism". This movement gained the blessing of the Mayor of Berlin, Heinrich Sahm, some suggest he was "a tool of Goering". Talk about the librarian's backlist becoming official Nazi party policy was quickly shot down however. 
+
+Wolfgang would produce his own list of 131 authors with selective books of theirs to blacklist. Most notable of which were communist Weimar era playwrights and foremost soviet revolutionary authors. There was also a list of 190 non-fiction authors including Hellen Keller's book about becoming a communist, Karl Marx, Lenin and Weimar era politicians that cozied up to the Soviets.
+
+Some of this literature would be symbolically publicly burned, but wasn't explicitly state sanctioned. Later the libraries were asked to remove the books from their inventories themselves (some of which wouldn't comply).
+--- 14991132
+>>14991126
+In Berlin a new professor Alfred Bäumler who was friends with Nazi official Alfred Rosenberg gave a lecture to the students telling them they should proactively take the book bans into their own hands. That night some 20,000 books were burned in a huge pyre while bands played german folk songs. The books burned included Marx, Kautsky, (communists) Heinrich Mann, (for criticizing German society) Ernst Glaeser, (for generally being a degenerate leftist) Erich Kästner, (for publishing erotica) Emil Ludwig, (falsification of German history) Sigmund Freud (destructive exaggeration of desires), Theodor Wolff, Georg Bernhard, (un-German journalism of a Jewish-democratic type) Erich Maria Remarque, (literal betrayal of the soldiers of the world war) Kurt Tucholsky and Carl von Ossietzky, (impudence and presumptuousness that offended the eternal German mind).
+
+Goebbels would be asked by the students to give a speech at this book burning, which he did, and that concluded his involvement with the book burnings. Students in other cities followed the lead and also staged symbolic book burnings, often congratulated by faculty members, but never to the same degree. The next largest book burning was one of 1,000 books at the Technical University. A week later student organizations announced they would task students with visiting local libraries to see if they could find unwanted books still on the shelves and organize more book burnings, the scale of which were not reported (so probably insignificant). A total of 93 book burnings took place, a majority of which were independent without Nazi directive and the scale of which aren't known, but it's safe to assume they weren't larger than 1,000 and were likely a few dozen at a time. 
+
+Wolfgang Hermann, the librarian who started the book banning craze would later be tossed under the bus after it was discovered he directly criticized Hitler's Mein Kampf and called Hitler stupid in 1932.
+--- 14991158
+>>14990916
+Based
+--- 14991204
+>>14990854
+>Banned Darwinism
+Darwinism is a huge aspect of National Socialist and racialist ideology in general, and fanatical Christfaggots hated National Socialism because they taught evolution in schools. OK sure, they banned Hemingway and Tolkien , and while there's no evidence they went out of their way to burn their books like the tranny books, I still disagree with that, just because the Nazis were better than the alternative does not mean they were perfect.
+--- 14991214
+>>14991204
+This guy gets it
+--- 14991287
+>>14988049
+>>14988161
+>>14988163
+over 25,000 volumes of books were burned that day you retards. Obviously most of it wasn't tranny books
+--- 14991353
+>>14991287
+Doesn't sound like much to be honest. If there were only 100 books targeted by the regime, that would only be 250 copies per title, which is pretty much nothing. In the U.S alone, eight hundred million printed books were sold last year to put things in perspective, and this is in the advent of the internet where reading is far less popular.
+--- 14991357
+>>14991204
+The trannies in this thread are trying to conflate independent student book burnings with state sanctioned book burnings which never existed. What did exist (two years after the book burnings in 1935) was a general condemnation of certain literature. Some local authorities would confiscate books but there was zero means of actual national enforcement, individual states in Germany had different enforcement policies. In Bavaria for example the police operated on a list they created themselves that was never given the green light by the federal government. 
+
+Goebbels created a national list of "forbidden" books. This was largely to prevent the confiscation of "okay" books rather than the federal sanctioning of book confiscation, as local police book confiscations by state were largely contradictory and lead to a lot of confusion. A Nazi official from Bavaria brought to Goebbel's attention that over 1000 publications had been banned there and 21 different authorities. This was bad propaganda for the Nazi party as international criticism of Germany's admittedly hair-brained book confiscations was quickly becoming a low-hanging fruit. Eventually all title proposals for federal lists were submitted to the National Chamber of Literature. All scientific literature was excluded. Even after this the Bavarian police continued to issue "improper book bans" and local police confiscation of literature elsewhere at their own discretion continued.
+--- 14991563
+>>14991357
+Basically what happened was the lists were made, and then nobody relevant was notified. Because the Nazis didn't want and publicity that they were actually considering banning books. On the ground level this meant if you stocked a book on their list and nazi officials learned of this, they could show up at your bookstore, take the book, and give you a hefty fine. This decentralized nature of censorship was in no way actually effective. The official Nazi party position was that librarians did not need to know the list of forbidden books because if their heart was in the right place they wouldn't stock them anyway. 
+
+This policy changed in 1940 when they judged the foreign press to be already at max hostility that disclosing the list would no longer be harmful diplomatically. By 1942 however book bans "had become extremely rare". (largely because they ran out of paper)
+--- 14991564
+>>14987990 (OP)
+Retarded, like everything else the naziniggers did
+--- 14991691
+>>14990693
+>Darwinism
+Are you retarded? Darwinism is used there as a category. So those books somehow related to Darwinism. Darwinism wasn't banned to any extend. Haeckel, the guy who made Darwinism popular in Germany in the first place, was vital for volkist and racial thought and celebrated as a great thinker by National Socialists. The actual books mentioned are Die Darwinische Theory. This was written by Edward Aveling who was a well known Marxist who literally married Marx's daughter and he was also the one who worked with Engels in translating Kapital into English. The other book is literally called Das ist Faschismus which I can't find but probably is something along the line of darwinism = fascism = bad.
+--- 14992047
+>>14990693
+lmao you're so fucking dumb, just as one would expect of someone who sucks Jewish dicks all day.
+
+That page page refers to a satirist who goes by the pseudonym Dr. Darwinsohn and lists two of his books, one of them called "Die Darwin'sche Theorie in Umwandlungs-Versen." At no point did the NS government even think about instituting a blanket ban on books discussing Darwinism.
+
+>>14990562
+>Schizo shit
+The fact that you dismiss it as such despite the fact that it is so easily verifiable after I've given you citations of publicly accessible scripture is just further proof of your mental retardation.
+People like you actually need censorship, otherwise you start snipping off your own genitals.
+--- 14992187
+>>14991691
+Haecklel was banned by name. See >>14988569
+The list on which he was named was "Die Bücherei 2:6".
+--- 14992219
+>>14992187
+Nope, you're conflating multiple datasets from multiple jurisdictions with varying levels of authenticity, book bans were not uniform in any way. The only "darwinists" banned were "vulgar darwinists" which believed that evolution was linear and that genes simply passing on caused the animal to "progress" rather than there being any sort of sexual selection and breeding. This is what happens when you have rationalist socialists attempting to bridge the gap between natural selection and philosophy, it turns to shit
+--- 14992257
+>>14987990 (OP)
+--- 14992274
+>>14992219
+Do you have a source for that?
+--- 14992276
+>>14988361
+>just trust me bro, I promise whoever made this list was actually there and saw it happen!
+kys retard
+--- 14992283
+>>14988939
+--- 14992321
+>>14992274
+Do you have a source for anything you post? Oh yeah
+--- 14992355
+>>14992187
+He wasn't fully banned, only some of his works were. That list specifically mentions those dealing with monism (which was banned fully) and primative darwinism. Primative Darwinism referring to his recapitulation theory if I had to guess. Even then after he was ''banned'' there were still works written about him calling him a pioneer of National Socialism, mostly by a member of the SS.
+--- 14992377
+>>14992276
+You niggers use it all the time in your arguments so why shouldn't I?. And no don't just say that "it's to own the Jews".
+--- 14992384
+>>14992355
+He wasn't even banned, you can look for his name in the official lists >>14990693 the tranny posted and his name isn't in there. It's a complete fabrication the nazis banned Haeckel
+--- 14992410
+>>14992321
+I'm the only person that has posted sources in this whole thread. (Sources, not infographics).
+
+See
+>>14988569
+>>14988708
+>>14988811
+>>14988950
+>>14988940
+>>14990693
+
+You are just coping that the Nazis were subhuman retards that banned Victor Hugo, HG Wells, Oscar Wilde, Scott Fitzgerald, Aldous Huxley, Remarque, Dos Passos, Jurists like Benedetto Croce, Scientists like Niels Bohr or Einstein, and on and on it goes. Nazis were fucking retards.
+
+Aldous Huxley banned in this particular page.
+--- 14992421
+>>14992384
+Nope he was banned. The list on which he was named is "Die Bücherei 2:6", of which I couldn't find a scan for online, but there's plenty of secondary sources quoting that document that attest he was banned.
+--- 14992429
+>>14990472
+How is it unreasonable for me to demand a detailed list of these Jewish authors and what they wrote?
+--- 14992441
+>>14992421
+>Nope he was banned
+Nope, he wasn't. Your own source doesn't have him listed. The only thing that says he was banned was the screenshot you took of an unsourcable claim 
+
+This is sad as fuck by the way
+--- 14992455
+>>14992441
+Strothmann (1960) says he was banned.
+Cope.
+--- 14992456
+Any sort of book burning/ banning, no matter how degenerate the books are, makes you look like a panicking loser who's out of options. By all means control what kids in school have to read but going so far to eliminate ideas is at best a complete waste of time, made even more obsolete by the existence of the Internet
+--- 14992458
+>>14992441
+>this is sad as fuck by the way 
+Eh, you don't post anything, he posts actual documents.
+--- 14992467
+>>14992458
+He posts the actual nazi list of names and claims people are on the list when anybody can read the list and see that they're not there, then has the gall to double down
+
+Typical leftist tranny behavior
+--- 14992473
+>>14992456
+There won't be a need to ban anything because we will have 1984-style Orwellian Social Credit Score chip implants. thanks to the type of governments these authoritarian simps seem to be excited about. 
+
+>>14992467
+The initial claim was that the Nazis didn't ban any books and just burned some tranny stuff. So I accept your concession.
+--- 14992475
+>>14990744
+>Commies banned more books than them
+
+Nazi Germany only lasted for 12 years
+The Soviet Union lasted 74 years
+
+Of course the commies banned more books, because they lasted longer and had more time to ban certain books that didn't fit their world view. If Nazi Germany lasted just about the same, they would've banned just as much. Fucking retard.
+--- 14992501
+>>14992473
+The initial claim was that the NAHTZEES didn't sanction book burning, which they didn't. You have doubled down and are trying to claim they banned authors they didn't ban, book burning was not carried out by the german government like you love to imply and banning was sporadically enforced and mostly concerned the big bads like Marx, Lenin and other marxists or people espousing marxism. This VEXES you because your entire narrative revolves around Evil nazis burning schoolbooks in some sort of anti-intellectual ritual, which never happened
+--- 14992540
+>>14992501
+>The initial claim was that the NAHTZEES didn't sanction book burning, which they didn't.
+Yes they did, it was Nazi student organizations which did the book burnings, and as you said yourself they had the blessings of certain government officials and mayors.
+
+>You have doubled down and are trying to claim they banned authors they didn't ban
+Cope or post a source proving me wrong. You can't.
+
+>book burning was not carried out by the german government like you love to imply
+If Biden supporters begun ransacking bookstores and burning books, and the police was not mobilized to arrest these people, rather Democrat mayors spoke in favor of it, what would you call that?
+
+>and banning was sporadically enforced and mostly concerned the big bads like Marx, Lenin and other marxists or people espousing marxism. 
+Nope, as has been proven only a small proportion were Marxist or Jewish books. In fact their biggest hardon seemed to be reserved for WW1 era pacifists like Remarque.
+
+>Evil nazis burning schoolbooks in some sort of anti-intellectual ritual, which never happened
+It's what's literally happening on the OP webm
+
+This VEXES you because your entire narrative revolves around Evil nazis burning schoolbooks in some sort of anti-intellectual ritual, which never happened
+--- 14992548
+>>14992540
+>student organizations burned the le books!
+Yup, prove the nazis told them to
+--- 14992569
+>>14992548
+They were Nazis. Nazi students, party members and youth wings.
+
+They were gloating about it on the press too.
+See >>14990103 >>14990092
+
+Auto-da-fe = Book burnings.
+--- 14992589
+>>14992569
+>the were socialists, so I get to claim everything they did was sanctioned by the federal government
+So if I'm a registered democrat and shoot up an elementary full of mexican children, that's a democrat sanctioned action?
+--- 14992598
+>>14992421
+Ah I found it. First off.
+http://ualibr-exhibits.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/burnedbooks/documents.htm
+On here it was called Guidelines from Die Bücherei.
+It's actual full name is Richtlinie für Bibliotheken und Büchereien der sächsischen Regierung. So those ''laws'' were only for saxony and not real laws since they were just a short description of things they were expected to self censor. Overall he appears on not a single black list which were the actual banned books and those guidelines didn't count for most of Germany. Also most likely when they refer to libraries they don't include academic libraries since they allowed far more and had their own set of rules.
+--- 14992600
+>>14992589
+No, if a Democrat Party Youth Organization shot up a school, were not condemned by the party, were not arrested but complimented for it by Democrat mayors, and you saw them parade next to Biden on the next rally then we could say it was a Democrat-sanctioned action.
+--- 14992615
+>>14992600
+The US had tons of socialist student organizations generally fucking shit up in the 60's and 70's, but they were never condemned by the left 
+
+I'm not following your logic here
+--- 14992617
+>>14992598
+So he was banned in Saxony, that's your backtracking? Appreciate the source, for once.
+--- 14992629
+>>14992615
+You are not following the logic because you are a chimpanzee that sees everything in black and white. Leftists organizations that "fucked shit up" (whatever that means) should have been condemned.
+
+Doubt it was on the same scale as kristallnach or the book burnings but yeah they did a lot of bad shit in the 1960s and 1970s. Like that Weathermen guy who should be in jail.
+--- 14992630
+>>14992617
+He wasn't banned by the federal government, so you can't blame nazis for banning him 
+
+dumb cunt
+--- 14992641
+>>14992629
+Oh I get it, the only reason you get to blame the nazi government for things students did is because they're the evil nazis and you get to make shit up about them
+--- 14992643
+>>14992630
+So who ruled Saxony?
+
+>muh Federal government
+Stop thinking everything in Amermutt terms btw, there was no federalism in Nazi Germany because the party controlled everything from the top down.
+--- 14992646
+>>14992617
+>So he was banned in Saxony
+I literally said he wasn't. A description of ''hey maybe you shouldn't publish this guy'' is not anything the same as banning him. It was never made illegal in any way.
+--- 14992659
+>>14992643
+>the party controlled everything
+>every state did whatever they wanted pertaining to book bans 
+Yeah reality isn't corroborating your narrative troon
+--- 14992664
+>>14992641
+>Nazi officers and soldiers wearing the Nazi armband, together with students, tossing books into the fire
+>Nazi media and officers praise them
+>ACTHUALLY IT WASN'T THE NAT-ZEES
+Saddest cope so far ITT.
+--- 14992688
+>>14992664
+Right so if I'm a registered democrat and shoot a school full of mexican children that's a democrat sanctioned action despite no record of that ever being ordered
+--- 14992696
+>>14992646
+>is not anything the same as banning him. It was never made illegal in any way.
+That's not what the sources say. Do you have anything to back this up this claim and contradict decades of scholarship on this subject?
+
+>>14992659
+It wasn't a state list however, it was a Nazi Party organ. You are the one claiming this was limited to Saxony. (With no proof of it).
+--- 14992716
+>>14992688
+If a Biden Minister called for purging the poison from the libraries, Biden student youth organizations begun ransacking libraries and burning books, Democrat mayors praised them for it and they were still Party members proudly marching at rallies then yes we could say this was a Democrat-instigated action.
+--- 14992717
+>>14992696
+Wolfgang Hermann was a nazi party organ?
+--- 14992732
+>>14992717
+Die Bücherei.
+Try to keep up, we are at 1935.
+--- 14992740
+>>14992732
+Right the list made in 1935 doesn't have the people you claim it has listed. 
+
+So are you a liar or retarded
+--- 14992745
+>>14992740
+Die Bücherei 2:6 is a different list. You may be too dumb to follow the conversation.
+--- 14992750
+>>14992745
+So now you're citing a third list? In order to prove the second list is actually the third list?
+--- 14992754
+>>14992750
+I've always spoken of three lists. 
+See >>14990675 >>14990683 >>14990688
+--- 14992785
+>>14992754
+Okay so if you concede that you're citing three different lists in tandem, you concede you were lying about the official list in 1935 containing somebody it didn't?
+--- 14992796
+>>14992785
+All three are official lists and two of them are from 1935, so no, I never lied. Darwinism is mentioned on the "List of Harmful and Undesirable Literature" and Haeckel is on Die Bücherei 2:6, both from 1935.
+--- 14992810
+>>14992796
+>All three are official lists
+Even if you claim this, you were claiming lists contained names they didn't, and only after me pointing out your lies did you bring up "the three lists"
+--- 14992815
+>>14992696
+I literally gave you the source. The idea he was ''bannend'' isn't said anywhere but by you misinterpreting from a provincial memo that they didn't like him and were advised not to have him/publish him. even the source earlier >>14988569 only refers to it as guidelines (and forgets to mention it was for exactly one state) and not that it was put on any black list and thus banned to any capacity.
+>contradict decades of scholarship on this subject?
+You're just pulling that out of your ass since you have absolutely 0 evidence to back up your claims.
+
+If you were to look at actual scholarly research it's not that simple. In general the specific view of race based thinking he had was nearly the exact same as that of Hitler. Some National Socialists didn't like him much (though that guideline is basically the only hard evidence) but a very good amount directly saw him as a forerunner with artical and books being written about him. 
+
+As for the source. The book those guidelines came from is literally just called: Richtlinien für die Bestandsprüfung in den Volksbüchereien Sachsens
+--- 14992839
+>>14992810
+Please point out where I lied.
+
+>>14992815
+>advised not to have him/publish him
+AKA banning.
+
+Do you have a source proving Die Bücherei was only for one state? It's described as a Nazi party organ.
+
+>You're just pulling that out of your ass since you have absolutely 0 evidence to back up your claims.
+Nope, see >>14988569
+
+Anyway, books promoting Darwinism are also blanket-banned on the "List of Harmful Books and Undesirable Literature", which was nationwide.
+
+>Some National Socialists didn't like him much (though that guideline is basically the only hard evidence) but a very good amount directly saw him as a forerunner with artical and books being written about him. 
+Yes I've said this from the very beginning, he fell out of favor with the Nazis in 1935.
+--- 14992886
+>>14992839
+>Please point out where I lied.
+>>14988508
+>>14988515
+>>14988525
+>>14992187
+--- 14992902
+>>14992886
+There's not a single lie on any of those posts. He was banned on Die Bücherei, 1935.
+--- 14992916
+>>14992902
+>There's not a single lie
+Yes you've been lying the entire thread that Haeckel was banned, when asked to provide a source you provide sources that don't list him, then claim his name is on the list when it isn't. Now you're citing another list, one that you also can't source, because you've realized that the only list you've actually provided actually proves you wrong
+--- 14992932
+>>14992839
+>AKA banning.
+No it isn't. Advising means it's not a law to any capacity so it's not illegal. It was also only published in a journal. So a journal, even if it is connected to the state, saying those kind of books should be banned, is nothing close to an actual law. 
+>Do you have a source proving Die Bücherei was only for one state?
+Yes. Like I said. The tital already literally says it's for saxony. if you want a different source, the role of darwinism in nazi racial thought by Weikart also refers to it as a journal only published in saxony. So it was either fully available in one state or had different politcal articals for different states
+>Nope, see >>14988569
+Retard. I literally quoted that because that source also doesn't say it was banned. Only put on a guidelines list. A guideline is not banned (let alone a guideline in a journal). The black list were actual banned books.
+>books promoting Darwinism
+Jezus chirst mate. I already pointed out here >>14992355 why that's just a complete lie.
+>he fell out of favor with the Nazis in 1935.
+No he didn't. Like I also said before he was still spoken of positively after that. A whole biography got published of him in 36 where he was called a forerunner on National Socialist racial thought.
+--- 14992943
+>>14992916
+>Yes you've been lying the entire thread that Haeckel was banned
+Holy cope. He was banned. I provided a book which mentions he was banned and some retard claimed this wasn't enough proof so I went digging for the original lists.
+
+>when asked to provide a source you provide sources that don't list him
+I provided the 1935 list because another retard argued the Nazis never banned books at all. Kek.
+
+>then claim his name is on the list when it isn't
+Never happened.
+
+>Now you're citing another list, one that you also can't source, because you've realized that the only list you've actually provided actually proves you wrong
+Another anon posted the Die Bücherei guidelines here.
+
+http://ualibr-exhibits.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/burnedbooks/documents.htm
+
+tl;dr - 
+Darwinism was banned in the 1935 "List of Harmful and Undesirable Books".
+Haeckel was banned on Die Bücherei (1935)
+Scholars like Strothmann mention Haeckel was banned by name.
+
+Cope, seethe and dilate.
+--- 14992950
+>>14992943
+>the Nazis never banned books at all
+It's arguable if they did really, the enforcement of the book bans sounds so spotty that it was pretty much random, not to mention how much it was left up to the states and local authorities
+--- 14992955
+>>14992932
+There is no proof for any of your claims. Post proof or fuck off.
+
+And yes, the guidelines were guidelines for confiscating books, it's a de facto ban. "To be confiscated", quoted by Strothmann, see >>14988811
+--- 14992959
+>>14992950
+That's not what the numerous authors on this topic claim.
+--- 14992961
+>>14992955
+You have still failed to provide the source for Strothmann's claims, the only source you have posted doesn't include the names you claimed it did
+--- 14992967
+>>14992959
+>DUH NUMERDOUS AUDORS
+well if they're as retarded as you I can understand why this historical event is so ambiguous
+--- 14992969
+>>14992959
+those numerous authors were also made to look like fools when in the 90s when a bunch of information on how lenient the Gestapo had been was released.
+--- 14992970
+>>14992961
+Haeckel is on one list.
+Darwinism is on another.
+
+Burden of proof is on you to prove the first list was not banning any books and the second list did not really extend to actual Darwinism but just "leftist Darwinists" or whatever cope is you are claiming.
+--- 14992971
+>>14992970
+>Haeckel is on one list
+you have failed to provide a single list with his name on it
+--- 14992975
+>>14992967
+>scholar says something
+>um acthually this is wrong, no I have no proof to why this is wrong it just is OK?
+Why do Stormtards have so much trouble coming up with credible sources?
+--- 14992981
+>>14992971
+http://ualibr-exhibits.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/burnedbooks/documents.htm
+--- 14992998
+>>14992975
+>can't provide evidence
+>"scholars" all citing the same source 
+>refuse to provide that source
+>source is rare, probably because it's bullshit/nobody cares
+>double down and claim source that you can provide proves you right when it actually proves you wrong (lie)
+tranny leftist
+--- 14993002
+>>14992998
+Never happened.
+--- 14993015
+>>14992955
+>There is no proof for any of your claims
+I gave you the literal title and a source confirming it was only in saxony, that it was only a journal calling for it so it wasn't anything close to a ban. The book I'm speaking of praising him is Bluts- und Geistes- Erbe by Heinz Brücher, an SS Hauptsturmführer and published in 36. 
+Your ''proof'' meanwhile is misreading of one quote and another taken out of context and a completle. 
+
+>the guidelines were guidelines for confiscating books
+How hard is it to understand that calling for books to be confiscated and banned in a damn journal is nothing close to an actual state sanctioned ban through law.
+--- 14993023
+>>14992981
+>The German Students' Association (Main Office for Press and Propaganda) is conducting a propaganda campaign named "Against the un-German Spirit" 
+>The German Students' Association
+>The German Students' Association was founded during the Weimar Republic period 
+Can you provide a source that this student organization predating the formation of the nazi party was controlled by the nazi party?
+--- 14993035
+>>14993015
+I'm just basing myself on the only link you yourself provided. It's described as a Nazi journal for libraries (no mention of it being limited to Saxony), as part of the plan to "cleanse" libraries (that is, confiscate said books).
+
+Darwinism in general is also mentioned on the official 1935 List of Harmful and Undesirable Books. (This qualifies as your "state sanctioned ban through law").
+--- 14993038
+>>14993035
+>Darwinism in general is also mentioned
+Another lie
+--- 14993041
+>>14993038
+So prove your claims.
+--- 14993049
+>>14993041
+The specific quote is "the darwinian theory that is fascism", I don't know what the fuck that means but it's not strictly natural selection
+--- 14993054
+>>14993023
+--- 14993063
+>>14993054
+yes there were multiple student unions, the one you posted was not the national socialist student union
+--- 14993071
+>>14993063
+Both are mentioned on the pic, one controlled the other.
+--- 14993074
+>>14993035
+>It's described as a Nazi journal for libraries (no mention of it being limited to Saxony)
+When I gave you that link I literally said the real title. You can just search that in google and find it but apperently that's a bit too difficult for you.
+>as part of the plan to "cleanse" libraries
+Indeed. It indicates a plan or desire to do so in this case. Not an acutal law. That's why it's a guideline in a journal, not a blacklist
+>Darwinism in general is also mentioned
+That's just a blatant lie. It says primitive Darwinism. So old ideas of darwinism proven false (like his recapitulation theory), racial theories they just didn't agree with (which he also had some of) and most likely also including darwinism based on racial anthropology (35 was also the year the major switch from racial anthropology to genetics happend so it might very well be connected to that.)
+>This qualifies as your "state sanctioned ban through law''
+It doesn't, like I've repeated a million times by now. A journal calling for something is not anything of an actual ban through law.
+--- 14993076
+>>14993071
+And how did this "part" of a student union get its orders from the nazi party, and do you have proof of these direct orders to create a list of banned books?
+--- 14993096
+>>14993074
+>When I gave you that link I literally said the real title. You can just search that in google and find it but apperently that's a bit too difficult for you.
+I can google just fine, I want the proof that these "guidelines" were just limited to Saxony.
+
+>It indicates a plan or desire to do so in this case. 
+A plan to confiscate books. 
+
+>That's just a blatant lie. It says primitive Darwinism. 
+No, the List of Harmful and Undesirable Books says "Darwinism" period. 
+
+>So old ideas of darwinism proven false (like his recapitulation theory), racial theories they just didn't agree with (which he also had some of) and most likely also including darwinism based on racial anthropology (35 was also the year the major switch from racial anthropology to genetics happend so it might very well be connected to that.)
+Banning science you don't agree with is never a good thing. Now you are gonna try to compare this with the West but you can go on Amazon.com and buy the Bell Curve and similar authors just fine.
+
+>A journal calling for something is not anything of an actual ban through law.
+The List of Harmful and Undesirable Books is a ban through law.
+--- 14993108
+>>14993076
+>And how did this "part" of a student union get its orders from the nazi party
+It was literally a wing of the Nazi Party.
+
+>do you have proof of these direct orders to create a list of banned books
+I don't need to do that, the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda created a list of banned books themselves.
+--- 14993116
+>>14993108
+>literally a wing of the Nazi Party
+>a student union
+that should be really easy to prove
+--- 14993118
+>>14993116
+It's on this pic underlined in green, are you retarded or what? >>14993054
+--- 14993179
+>>14993118
+So you're saying that since a nazi official was the leader of a student union which published a list of books it didn't like that wasn't okayed by the german government and then staged book burnings which also weren't okayed by the german government which were largely symbolic and extremely limited in scope that means the german government banned Ernst Haeckel even though the list from the german government of banned books doesn't include him because somehow a student union is actually the nazi party because it has a nazi official running it
+--- 14993190
+>>14993096
+>I can google just fine, I want the proof that these "guidelines" were just limited to Saxony.
+The title literally states it was for saxony and I already gave you a paper also stating it was for saxony. So I already did.
+>A plan to confiscate books.
+In this case a plan by a journal with no actual implementation.
+>the List of Harmful and Undesirable Books says "Darwinism" period
+The list you mention form 35 doesn't. The other list mentions it like a catogory like I already explained earlier. So books banned for some reason involving Darwinism. So either you are wilfully misinterperting it or you are just retarded and can't read.
+>Banning science you don't agree with is never a good thing
+It's not just disagreable. It was completely wrong + They also didn't ban it. Secondly academic libraries had far fewer restrictions on them. They even had forbidden section where you could get the real anti-government stuff if you needed it.
+>The List of Harmful and Undesirable Books is a ban through law.
+The blacklist was, since that was acutally implemented by the government itself. haeckel never appeared on that one. A list (it not even being a list of books) like that in 35 is not a law in any way. It's like an opinion piece in a paper.
+--- 14993229
+>>14993179
+>a nazi official was the leader of a student union which published a list of books it didn't like
+The German National Socialist Student's Union never published any list of books, they just did the book burnings. You seem a bit retarded.
+
+The first list ever was published by a Nazi-affilitated librarian in 1933. The actual official lists of banned books came later, two lists in 1935 (One by the Reich Ministry of Propaganda and another list of "Guidelines" for "cleansing libraries" by the Nazi party), and a third list was published by the SS in 1941.
+
+>wasn't okayed by the german government and then staged book burnings which also weren't okayed by the german government
+They were praised for it. Nazi officers and party members also took part as you can see on the OP webm.
+
+>that means the german government banned Ernst Haeckel even though
+No, those are separate events. You are attempting to conflate them and make a jumbled mess because you ran out of arguments.
+
+>a student union is actually the nazi party because it has a nazi official running it
+It's literally called the National Socialist German Student's Union. Retard.
+--- 14993251
+>>14987990 (OP)
+Book burning is necessary to prevent the reproduction of an idea second to killing the humans who still believe in that idea
+--- 14993267
+>>14993035
+Darwinism is not a book.
+Darwinism as a concept is also banned by the US, UK, wikipedia, and EU.
+--- 14993271
+>>14993190
+>The title literally states it was for saxony and I already gave you a paper also stating it was for saxony. So I already did.
+That doesn't prove it was only limited to Saxony. It's just the original title. The scholars that investigated this, list Haeckel as being banned.
+
+>In this case a plan by a journal with no actual implementation.
+This is what I want, proof that it was never implemented.
+
+>The list you mention form 35 doesn't. The other list mentions it like a catogory like I already explained earlier. So books banned for some reason involving Darwinism. So either you are wilfully misinterperting it or you are just retarded and can't read.
+If it was only a few books why would they mention "Darwinism"? Why not just the authors and books?
+
+>They also didn't ban it.
+Proof?
+
+>The blacklist was, since that was acutally implemented by the government itself. haeckel never appeared on that one. 
+No, just Darwinism.
+
+>It's like an opinion piece in a paper.
+No, it's an official Nazi guideline as part of their second campaign to "cleanse" libraries.
+--- 14993272
+>>14992429
+You have been provided with them and you deny the evidence.
+--- 14993327
+>>14993271
+>That doesn't prove it was only limited to Saxony
+The titel from the original 35 source literally saying it was for Saxony sure as hell means it was for saxony. 
+>The scholars that investigated this, list Haeckel as being banned
+No they don't. They basically always refer to him being mentioned on that list from 35, that list doesn't indicate he was banned but that at least some people didn't like him, I've not seen any source yet say he was actually banned, just put on that list which called for but didn't actually ban anything.
+>This is what I want, proof that it was never implemented.
+>Proof?
+If he was banned, he would be on the black list, which he wasn't, so he wasn't banned. You claim he was banned, your source is only a guidline from 35 which wasn't a law but just published in a jounral and thus not proof of anything. So you have no proof he was ever banned.
+>Why not just the authors and books?
+The literally mention the books under that. Stating Darwinism simply gives a reason why they were banned.
+>No, just Darwinism.
+As a catogory.
+>No, it's an official Nazi guideline as part of their second campaign to "cleanse" libraries.
+Aha, A guidline, so no law, in a jounral.
+Let me make it clearer to you. If you have a newspaper which is funded by the government and they publish an opinion piece saying that National Socialist books like mein kampf should be banned, does this mean it's an actual law the government has? no of course not. A jounral calling for something without any government implementation is not a law.
+--- 14993379
+>>14993272
+I'm not denying the evidence you ape. I'm simply asking for a detailed list. You fuckers have done it in the past with communists, mainstream media, government officials, etc. Why not the banned authors? Is it really that hard?
+--- 14993395
+>>14993379
+fuck, off nonce chimp
+--- 14993408
+>>14993379
+Because the banned authors reveal what morons the Nazi were. I mean they banned Bohr... and even in music, stuff like Debussy. 
+
+Why do Nazis hate Western civilization so much?
+
+https://youtu.be/qNoq240t54I [Embed]
+--- 14993415
+>>14992410
+They banned HG Wells because he wrote a socialist book named The Outline of History: Being a Plain History of Life and Mankind where he rejected all theories of racial and civilizational superiority.
+--- 14993534
+>>14993408
+>Bohr
+Probably because he was Jewish and helped refugees escape. Probably was banned after he feld when they tried to arrest him.
+>Debussy
+Married a Jew
+--- 14993693
+>>14993534
+Pathetic
+
+https://youtu.be/CvFH_6DNRCY [Embed]
+--- 14993715
+>>14993408
+>DE NAHTZEES WERE LE DUMB
+>okay? why?
+>DEY BANNED COMMUNISM LIDERADURE
+and that's bad... why?
+--- 14993722
+>>14993229
+>The German National Socialist Student's Union never published any list of books
+your source is literally a list produced by the student union, is it not? Or once again are you posting about a source that you don't even know what it is
+--- 14993757
+>>14993035
+>they hated Bauhaus
+Oh no, but he was the progenitor of all ugly soulless corporate art we have today, why were the Nazis so evil that they wanted to take that from us?
+--- 14994107
+>>14993327
+You haven't provided a single source saying the second round of cleansing of libraries was never followed through. I don't see why it wouldn't. The sources I've posted say it was followed through, that it was a de facto ban (the books were to be "confiscated" as per Strothmann).
+
+>>14993722
+No, if you are talking about this list, it was published by the Reich Ministry of Propaganda. >>14990693
+
+>>14993757
+Nazi and fascist futurism was just as souless.
+
+https://historycollection.com/day-history-sitting-bull-surrenders/
+
+I'm posting the "nicest" building on the list so that you see I'm not being biased. Souless trash.
+--- 14994109
+>>14994107
+No I'm not talking about that, and you know that you retarded commie
+--- 14994123
+>>14994109
+None of the lists I posted came from any student organization, I don't know where you are getting this from schizo.
+
+1933 list came from a Nazi-affiliated librarian, was adopted as a black list in Prussia.
+1935 list came from the German Ministry of Propaganda.
+The 1935 guidelines came from the Nazi party.
+The 1941 list came from the SS.

his/14988056.txt

@@ -92,3 +92,66 @@ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GI-K4aCqCbk&pp=ygUMRWNoZWxvbiBzb25n [Embed]
 --- 14988966
 >>14988714
 Unironically how many train threads are there a month? I see one, maybe two and they die with less 10 posts
+--- 14989375
+>>14988966
+We need more. The trains threads are being surpressed by the big coal companies.
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw [Embed]
+--- 14991079
+Trains are more effective in war then cars so since /his/ likes to talk about war they are biased towards them.
+--- 14991092
+>>14988056 (OP)
+Ca/n/cer infects every board.
+
+They worship the state so they think you should only be allowed where corporate and public transit allows you to go and only when the corpos and state lets you travel.
+--- 14991116
+>>14988271
+>LOVE living in NYC the original Walkable City(tm).
+Imagine being this wrong and retarded
+--- 14991374
+>>14988056 (OP)
+Trains are living history. Look at pic related, Pennsylvania Railroad T1 5550 which is currently being rebuild by a shit ton of 4chan autists who are getting funding from normie autists
+--- 14991424
+>>14988379
+I wish there was more train /his/ instead of “trains are for commies” and “why can’t we have high speed rail like the rest of the world?” Pic isn’t the Wild West but upper Manhattan in the 1870s.
+--- 14991469
+>>14991424
+I wish we had more art deco trains. Everything is either remarkably bland or walking advertisements for shit like Marvel
+--- 14991762
+>>14988121
+>>14988275
+>>14988734
+>>14988966
+>>14989375
+/n/igger threads
+>>14991525 →
+>>14978252 →
+--- 14993564
+>>14991469
+I’m a massive steamfag but the Art Deco streamliner era was peak rail, and of course there was streamlined steam.
+--- 14993573
+>>14988056 (OP)
+Seething cageoid
+--- 14993601
+>>14991374
+That 30s design is really neat. I'd love to see one of these go back into commission.
+--- 14993602
+>>14988056 (OP)
+>There's too many train and "le walkable city" shill threads
+I'd say there's not enough. Trains are zooming gigachad vehicles reking the everlasting shit out of your gay sojatruck.
+>yeehaw i got big truck i gon drive while the signal's on like a cowb-ACK
+--- 14993624
+>>14993564
+Art deco is a bit later than the style I prefer which is that of the Gilded Age. Link related
+
+https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/arts-and-entertainment/2017/07/riding-the-rails-of-history-with-john-ringling-s-wisconsin
+
+This might have been the rail museum I visited though I could swear it was Andrew Carnegie's personal railcar which is what we saw.
+--- 14994085
+>>14991092
+>>14991762
+Honestly, I would rather have another /n/ thread then another schizo thread about Hitler being a Muslim. At least you learn something cool about trains and design. 
+
+But as always: Cars > Trains
+--- 14994093
+I bike to work :)

his/14988335.txt

@@ -165,3 +165,250 @@ Early Americans are all midwit descendants of English social rejects and Ir*sh,
 
 >"no"
 >closes down recruitment offices
+--- 14989974
+>>14989258
+Thanks.
+I always thought semi-professional army become a thing durring mid-West expansion
+--- 14990350
+>>14988887
+Besides railroads, steam powered warships and transports were a huge factor in the western theater. Andrew Jackson slaughtered crack British troops at New Orleans in 1815, but the south’s largest city was lost in a nearly bloodless stroke once Union warships steamed past the Mississippi River forts. Navigable rivers were daggers into the heart of the western Confederacy and much of Grant’s success in 1862-63 came from cooperation with naval forces. Those brown water naval battles were very unique, something never seen before or since.
+--- 14990386
+>>14989097
+There had always been a small Regular Army focused on Indian fighting and coastal forts, but bigging up to hundreds of thousands of soldiers on either side required “glorified militia” i.e. state volunteer regiments. The West Point officer corps was divided and spread thin and plenty of civilian amateurs found themselves leading troops. All this accounts for so many battles turning into chaotic barroom brawls, especially in the early years.
+--- 14990448
+>>14988990
+>he didnt do enough damage to stop Lee from running wild
+he completely checked Lee's strongest foray into the Political North when the Confederacy was at its relative height.
+>you dont win by having a better KDR
+Generals do not win wars between Democracies, Politicians decide the Outcome.
+However, Where and When Generals do win wars, KDR is the most significant factor.
+Take too many losses nothing can save you. Have a good KDR and you can spare your nation from even a defeat.
+>dedicated cavalry
+everyone had "dedicated cavalry"
+>skilled and aggressive
+Couldnt pull the same tricks on McClellan tho.
+>nobody is perfect
+true, but Grant is awful compared to McClellan, these are just the facts.
+>McClellanfag
+worst attempt at trying to fit in
+--- 14990456
+>>14989112
+>constitutional ideals
+hardly, They fighting for White Nationalism in the North and fighting for White Separatism in the South.
+>>14989283
+America began to outpace England in 1815.
+--- 14990625
+>Grant to the end of his days denied hotly that he'd been "jumped" at Shiloh. Shortly after the battle he wrote to Elihu Washburn a letter stating "Did they expect 30,000 men, most of them completely raw, to stand off 70,000 of the enemy? (at this point Grant was still harboring the misapprehension that the Confederates had a much larger army). To retreat across the Tennessee would make that river into a second Potomac. It would have prolonged the war by an additional six months and probably required a completely new army to be raised."[3]
+--- 14990635
+>>14990350
+good effort post. thanks.
+--- 14990641
+>>14988726
+McClellan forced Lee to attack him through clever positioning and strategy and the protection of his supply lines.
+Grant failed to do the same and thus was forced to fight on Lee's terms.
+--- 14990645
+>It was said that "The city of New Orleans never smiled again after Shiloh." The South knew from that point onward the war was a lost cause. Their best chance at victory had been to destroy Grant's army and they had not quite pulled it off. And much of that was due to Grant's singular stubbornness and refusal to accept defeat.
+--- 14990668
+>>14990645
+well no, it was due to 15,000 fucking men showing up and shifting the numbers heavily against the Confederates when they were previously equalized with a Confederate advantage.
+
+The war wasnt lost at that time, it was lost after Second BVLL Run, if Lee had been just an hour fast, a single hour faster, he could have bagged over 50,000 men and left Washington DC completely unprotected save for a minor garrison in the low thousands.
+If Second Manassas was more decisive, the war could have been very easily a Confederate victory.
+They were at their height at the time, the West was slowed down, The South was greatly overestimated by Northerners at the time, The North was at its lowest morale.
+If ever they Confederates could win, it was then. I doubt a victory at Shiloh or even Gettysburg would lead to Union capitulation, especially as the Union at Shiloh could afford to lose the West, and the Union at Gettysburg knew their strength was great compared to the South.
+--- 14990755
+>>14990625
+I’m not a Grant hater but one of my Confederate ancestors said they were close enough the night before to hear music in the Federal camps, and the “surprise” attack had already been delayed a day by rain. How could he have not seen it coming?
+--- 14990838
+>Halleck assumed general command in the West after Shiloh and he disagreed with the assessment that the Army of the Tennessee had been surprised and said everyone performed correctly and appropriately in the situation. Sherman was livid at those claims, while disregarding his own unwise remarks to an Ohio colonel that he should "take his damned regiment back to Ohio; there is no enemy nearer than Corinth." Instead he vented his wrath on the officers and men who'd panicked and ran the moment the firing began. "They should act surprised at the Confederates' complete want of respect for human life after having been told to regard them as inferior."
+
+>Grant to be fair may have been guilty of underestimating his enemy a bit. The relative ease with which he captured Ft. Donelson and Henry seems to have created the impression that the war had been started by a handful of fire-eater Southern politicians and that the average Confederate private was apathetic to the cause. The ferocity with which they fought at Shiloh disabused him of that notion.[5] During the subsequent occupation of Memphis that summer, he also got a taste of what was really going down. The city was filled with fanatic secessionists, many of whom had relatives serving in the Confederate army, and as Grant recalled, "Many of these people seemed convinced that a Northern general would sympathize with them and accept the justness of the Confederate cause if he would just sit down and listen to their arguments."[3]
+--- 14990908
+>After Shiloh the war in the West moved very very slowly. Halleck was taking absolutely no chances and the next month and a half would see the Union host make an incredibly slow march down to Corinth, which fell without a fight on May 28. It had taken 52 days to march the 20 miles down from Pittsburg Landing. Between the combined armies of Grant, Buell, and John Pope, Halleck had an impressive 100,000 men, more than even McClellan ever commanded. Beauregard's mangled army could have been taken easily but the real aim was the capture of Corinth and its railroad depot.
+--- 14991129
+>the mass replier ITT
+--- 14991275
+McClellan was the best general of the war, because he was the funniest.
+--- 14992468
+>>14990350
+Thanks for the high quality post.
+--- 14992801
+then again, Grant was actively directing troops during the battle of Shiloh and exposing himself to fire a couple of times while McClellan was usually one to six miles from every battle his army ever fought
+--- 14992906
+>On April 28, Halleck announced a reorganization of the army into "wings" or corps. The right wing was commanded by George Thomas and consisted of his division plus four of Grant's divisions--Grant himself received a meaningless title of department commander with Thomas having operational control of his army--still technically under Grant's command but not really. John McClernand commanded the reserve wing, his division plus three from Buell's army. John Pope retained his existing command and Buell had a sadly diminished force down to just three divisions. Both Grant and Buell felt duly insulted at what they saw as a demotion; the former had a somewhat cold relationship with Thomas from that point onward and he spoke of himself as being in a virtual state of arrest.
+
+>On June 26, Thomas was reverted back to command of his old division and Grant regained direct control of his army, sort of. No general who served under Halleck was alone for very long and Halleck had an enervating habit of ignoring subordinate generals and ordering their commands around directly. Grant had several arguments with him over this, protesting that Halleck had ordered his troops around in contradiction of his own plans and without informing him. Halleck replied back that he would issue orders to any part of Grant's command any time he felt it was appropriate.
+
+>On July 18, Halleck departed to Washington D.C. to become general-in-chief of the army and Grant was on his own finally. He was still Grant's superior but now had more pressing concerns than the placement of a brigade or division along a railroad line in southwestern Tennessee.
+--- 14992982
+>>14992468
+>>14990350
+>the heart of the Confederacy
+>produced less than 25% of its food and wealth 
+lol
+>>14992801
+>actively directing troops
+He was present for one (1) counter attack.
+>McClellan was miles away
+McClellan was near the front when he was on the offensive, he also had a much more sophisticated form of organization.
+
+So if Grant was so great, why did he suck compared to McClellan? Did less with more, failed to achieve his objectives within the time given, actively undermined his fellow officers, lost 60,000 men in the overland to preventable causes.
+--- 14993058
+>>14992982
+>why did he suck compared to McClellan?
+If I recall Lee surrendered to Grant, not McClellan
+
+> lost 60,000 men 
+Of course if McClellan had just charge at Richmond or Antetam,there would be no need for Grants operations in the east
+--- 14993110
+>The march down to Corinth was undertaken with the delusion that Beauregard commanded an army that was at least three times its actual size, perhaps as many as 100,000 men. Although he eventually received reinforcements, there was no point after Shiloh where he mustered more than 51,000 men and for the first few weeks after the battle he had barely 30,000. He telegraphed Richmond to lament that there was very little he could do to prevent the total destruction or capture of his army. This message was actually intercepted by Union army intelligence and read, but resulted in no action being taken and ultimately nothing but a warning from Robert E. Lee to change his cipher.
+
+>The Union war effort in the West ground to a near-total halt in the summer with Grant and Buell's commands scattered about guarding and repairing railroads. By July, the Union offensive against Richmond had also been beaten back and there was a complete impasse with the momentum that had been going since Ft. Donelson having all but stopped.
+--- 14993205
+>>14993058
+>Lee surrendered to Grant not McClellan
+I recall Lee never lost a battle to Grant, but he did lose three to McClellan
+
+Also, they didnt surrender because of Grant, they surrendered because their country had been destroyed and their army was starving and low on ammunition, in particular it was Sheridan who cut off Lee, not Grant, Sheridan was acting on his own initiative FYI.
+>if McClellan had just charged into a larger entrenched force
+????
+--- 14993703
+>>14993110
+Buell was a faggot and his wife also owned slaves so his soldiers never really trusted him. Also he was one of "that" kind of general who would put provost marshals around an openly secessionist farmer's house to stop the troops from looting the place. McClellan did that same crap on the Peninsula.
+
+>nno that guy's sons are in the Rebel army shooting at us
+>nnno you can't take all his stuff and use his house as troop quarters that's rude
+--- 14993724
+>>14993703
+Sherman's policy in this situation was like "Don't want your house looted and all your pigs and chickens eaten? Take the oath of loyalty to the US government and we'll leave your stuff unmolested. You did this to yourself, Cletus."
+--- 14993826
+>>14993205
+>????
+The "Cult of the Offensive" is one hell of a drug.
+--- 14993959
+>>14993724
+Yeah, basically a bandit and a war criminal.
+--- 14994041
+>>14990755
+That's very fascinating, anymore knowledge you have from your ancestor?
+--- 14994052
+>>14993703
+>>14993724
+>tear up the Constitution to own the Rebs
+1800s Zogbots
+--- 14994210
+>>14993703
+>>>14992982
+Fuck off Hike.
+--- 14994232
+American war history doesn't even feel real to me. It's like somebody just made it up
+--- 14994365
+>>14994232
+Why?
+--- 14994409
+>>14994365
+I'm not sure, I think a large part of it is the lack of specifics about the troops
+>General Max Haywood commanding 40,000 troops
+Ok, from where and how many? Was it 5 thousand from north eastern Michigan, 2 thousand from New England etc? I just can't engage with the campaigns if it all one big blob
+--- 14994430
+>>14994409
+All of those things are very well documented. The US civil war might actually be the most documented war of all time, with all the primary documents and diaries that we have. It's just that it's not generally useful to go into such details in conversations.
+--- 14994454
+>>14994409
+Anon, half the units have their home state in the name
+--- 14994455
+>>14994430
+Maybe I'm just biased as a euro but yeah, just having 40,000 troops be a singular blob without separate identities of their own coming into play just seems impossible to me. Read Euro history certain peoples would demanding to be in the vanguard and threatening to go home if they aren't first in line, others would be demanding to serve in the cavalry if that's where they feel their people are naturally talented, some would demand to be sent to certain climates if they feel they could shine there, one group would be coming to blows with another etc etc. The lack of identity among the troops makes them feel like NPCs instead of real men from all around the country
+--- 14994467
+>>14994455
+>The lack of identity among the troops makes them feel like NPCs instead of real men from all around the country
+Yes, but again, that's just your perception, which is based on ignorance of the topic. These armies were definitely not the homogeneous blobs that you imagine. The regiments were assembled from states, and states back then were pretty much small countries with their own culture and identity. To that you can add that there were immigrants and even native americans into the mix. As an introductory example, you could go read about the history of the Irish Brigade.
+--- 14994512
+>>14994467
+Fair enough, didn't Grant record his campaign in his own hand? If so, is it worth reading?
+--- 14994523
+>>14994512
+I wouldn't trust anything Grant says. He was a liar who only cared about improving his own reputation. Next you will probably ask me for book recommendations, but I can straight up tell you that I don't really know the books. The only one I've read was "A Prussian Observes the American Civil War: The Military Studies of Justus Scheibert"
+--- 14994528
+>>14994052
+They rejected the Constitution and seceded so they were not entitled to its protection, Cletus.
+--- 14994532
+>>14994528
+So why invade them if they're not subject to the constitution?
+--- 14994534
+>>14994512
+I'd say it is worth reading the from Generals of either side but like >>14994523 says, alot of it is self-promoting or shaking blame for losing men. The big names are Grant, Sherman, Mcclellan for the North and Lee, Jackson, Longstreet for the South; ofcourse read some of the others if you can.
+--- 14994535
+>>14994512
+Whether you’re a fanboy or a hater, Grant’s autobiography is a must read for any ACW student. Of course he’s biased but he’s a good writer, surprising for someone who wasn’t noted as an intellectual, and his clear concise prose is some of the best writing by any president. 
+He wrote it after leaving office, bankrupt snd disgraced, and he was dying of throat cancer as he struggled to finish in order to provide for his family after death. His friend Mark Twain promoted the book and it became a best seller.
+--- 14994539
+>>14994528
+You'd understand why that sentence is retarded if your family had actually been in the US at the time, Gomes.
+--- 14994541
+>>14994535
+>Grant lived at the same time as Mark Twain
+Didn't know this either
+--- 14994544
+>>14994430
+it's more like all of the primary sources are in English and confined to one country while the world wars have a vast amount of documentation in several dozen different languages and countries so you can only read a portion of it.
+--- 14994548
+>>14993703
+what's weirder is that the soldiers didn't seem to hold any ill feelings against McClellan for that while they were fully convinced Buell was in cahoots with the enemy, and same with McDowell for trying to protect civilian property in northern Virginia.
+--- 14994553
+>>14994548
+McClellan was idolized by his men, because he cared about them and led them from victory to victory. I'm a fan of civil war songs, and one thing I noticed from them is that McClellan is the most sung-about general, and always positively.
+
+And now, before I end my song
+This free advice, I'll tender
+We soon will use the rebels up
+And make them all surrender
+And once again, the stars and stripes
+Will to the breeze be swellin'
+If Uncle Abe will give us back
+Our darlin' boy McClellan
+
+We'll follow little Mac
+He'll lead us on to glory, O!
+He'll lead us on to glory, O!
+To save the stripes and stars
+
+He'll lead us on to glory, O!
+He'll lead us on to glory, O!
+To save the stripes and stars
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-addpiPKzE [Embed]
+--- 14994559
+>>14994553
+Well he was conservative with their lives, I'd rather serve under him then under Grant.
+--- 14994561
+>>14994548
+Buell was an asshole that nobody liked. Aside from his wife owning slaves which made him suspicious he was also one of those generals who never figured out volunteer soldiers and subjected them to brutal regular army discipline. Thus why he never commanded troops again after October 1862. Grant offered him a command under Sherman during the Atlanta campaign but he refused to serve under a general he out-ranked and instead just resigned from the army and returned to civilian life.
+--- 14994569
+>>14994541
+>Grant lived at the same time as Mark Twain
+https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023/04/18/why-mark-twain-had-an-incredibly-brief-stint-as-a-confederate-soldier/
+Twain and Grant were briefly on opposite sides in the same theater, then Twain lit out for the far west.
+--- 14994579
+>A few days after Shiloh, Halleck sent word that he was arriving from Missouri to take command in person, and Grant and Buell would also be reinforced by John Pope's army, fresh off its capture of Island No. 10. Considering his well-established tendency to pass the buck onto subordinates, he was surprisingly soft on Grant after all the accusations of his being jumped at the battle, only recommending that he improve the discipline and drill of his commmand. This was true--the Army of the Tennessee was still an underbaked outfit with raw recruits who as yet acted like a random collection of regiments thrown together than an army. Soldiers needed better drill and to stop habits such as the promiscuous firing of muskets on any and all occasions--there are instances reported like an entire company firing their weapons into the air simultaneously to see if their powder worked and wasn't dampened after a rainfall.
+--- 14994616
+>>14988693
+I'll never understand why someone would believe something as retarded as this, McClellan was a bitchmade pussy who was fundamentally indecisive about engaging the enemy and using his troops to their fullest effect, which alone is a fatal flaw in any good commander, much less general. Dumb faggot made it seem like rebels were undergoing fucking mitosis every second in Virginia and he couldn't even conceive of attacking without even more troops on top of his already 100,000+ strong force, no wonder Lincoln had enough of his bullshit after awhile. The fact that he would turn around a few years later and run against Lincoln on a platform of ending the war and achieving peace, even if it meant allowing Cletus to keep his banana-republic in the making and permanantly fuck up an entire half of the country is just the retard cherry on top of his downs syndrome sundae
+--- 14994622
+>>14994616
+>no wonder Lincoln had enough of his bullshit after awhile
+How well did that work for the Union? A year of crippling defeats one after another because Lincoln appointed generals who were fine with just throwing men in suicide charges at Confederate defences.
+--- 14994630
+>>14994553
+Lee himself even said “he is an able general, but he is a very cautious one.” He took enormous risks against McClellan because he knew McClellan would never come at him.
+--- 14994637
+>>14994630
+Yes, and Lee also said:
+
+>Robert E. Lee, on being asked (by his cousin, and recorded by his son) who was the ablest general on the Union side during the late war, replied emphatically: "McClellan, by all odds!"[104]
+--- 14994657
+>>14988335 (OP)
+So why didn't either of them attack the other's capital directly?
+--- 14994699
+>>14994657
+Making the obvious move is a bad move usually

his/14988779.txt

@@ -370,3 +370,882 @@ All four of them across dozens of cities? Three of which were shot by other whit
 --- 14989315
 >>14989162
 Donbas separatists dont shoot up schools and supermarkets
+--- 14989423
+>lust-provoking image 
+>time-wasting question 
+like clockwork
+--- 14990111
+Lol racists shut up when confronted with evidence
+--- 14990135
+>>14988836
+slave labour is cheap as fuck in the modern age
+
+the cost of feeding, heating, having guards around is too much for some shit a machine can do.
+--- 14990175
+Nayib Bukele is based, there is no need to show mercy to the marginals, rapists and murderers
+the french were retarded when they invented prisons criminals should be tortured
+But don't look for opinions in /his/ these people are guys who think that the United States is the only country that exists besides being traumatized by the racial system of the United States
+--- 14990249
+>>14990175
+>criminals should be tortured
+See a psychiatrist
+--- 14990401
+>>14989292
+>le socio economic conditions that also apply when said socio economic conditions don't apply anymore like cosmic background radiation
+?
+--- 14990423
+>>14990249
+>amerimutt
+--- 14990428
+>>14990175
+based and correct 
+all of central america needs someone like him
+--- 14990429
+>>14989182
+>delusional tranny that lives on the internet thinks mainstream conservatives want to associate their orgs with his hatred for blacks
+touch grass. call your mother. seek employment
+--- 14990435
+>>14990111
+what like picrel?
+--- 14990442
+>>14990111
+you mean like this?
+--- 14990567
+>>14990442
+>>14990435
+You mean like half the earlier posts?
+--- 14990596
+>>14988812
+Naftali Frenkel solved the cost of prison by making all the prisoners work as lumberjacks or making bricks. They were fed according to their production so that sick and weak people starved.
+--- 14990597
+>>14990175
+This.
+Firsties just don't understand what it's like to live in an actually dangerous society. The toughest and meanest american gang would be torn to pieces in any central American country.
+--- 14990606
+>>14990111
+>kill drug gangs
+>hit rapists
+>for the amerimutts that is racism
+united states urgently needs a Nayib Bukele
+--- 14990608
+>>14988779 (OP)
+>If you lock all the thugs up and never let them out, you’ll have less crime
+Wait until you learn about the death penalty.
+--- 14990623
+>>14988779 (OP)
+This post made me a murderer.
+--- 14990628
+>>14990175
+marginals?
+--- 14990644
+>>14990597
+Parts of the USA are roughly as dangerous as Central America if you just look at murders. It's just more geographically limited. In countries like El Salvador gang activity is more systemic. Italy used to have systemic issues with crime and corruption but with fewer dead noncombatants. Their approach was interesting. They incentivized a lot of communist terrorist group members and mafiosi to turn into informants, and held a record-breaking trial that lasted six years and sent over 300 people to prison, 19 of whom received life sentences. When two leading judges were assassinated afterwards, the prosecution of head mafiosi intensified. In spite of this Italy has a pretty low prison population and doesn't actually send detainees to prison until they've exhausted their appeals.
+--- 14990687
+>>14990644
+>Italy
+Big chance these terroni just fled to USA. Italy isn't sending their best
+--- 14990947
+>>14989067
+>>14989078
+How is it that bumfuck rust towns in West Virginia can still have lower homicide rates than black-majority towns that are wealthier?
+--- 14990961
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_camp
+problem solved
+--- 14990963
+>>14988779 (OP)
+It does “work”, but Jews want their pet criminals out and about terrorizing goyim (as revenge for the Holocaust or something)
+--- 14990965
+>>14988826
+>including 35000 women
+--- 14990994
+>>14990947
+Can we get some profiles of these criminals in these rich black places? Like some interviews
+--- 14991189
+>>14988851
+You'll end up with Australians, which is worse
+--- 14991198
+>>14988779 (OP)
+liberalism
+--- 14991201
+>>14988915
+It is pretty amazing how Jewish record labels can direct black criminality as they wish. If they wanted them to do more insurance fraud it would be as simple as making songs about it and maybe a dance.
+--- 14991210
+>>14990994
+it’s not that hard to understand, every nigga comes with an endless amount of moochers who he supports. The richer the nigga, the more parasites. A dude like Michael Jackson or Mike Tyson will have like 700 parasites attached to him. Some lower middle class sow negress with a monthly settlement check will have 2-6 “boyfriends” who steal from her purse. Etc
+--- 14991212
+>>14988992
+How does white flight/segregation relate to this
+--- 14991256
+>>14991210
+What you are saying is that these rich black places are not as rich as stated if its just a few rich people with 700 parasites each.
+--- 14991262
+>>14988779 (OP)
+when has it worked, at best you just get criminals who get to monopolize and work with the government. Mass incarceration goes hand in hand with corruption and a fuck the citizens mentality government
+--- 14991283
+>>14991210
+This is true. Millionaire athletes have been sucked dry by their families and social circles, like Vince Young for instance. And if you watch the NFL draft you hear a lot of stories about the black's "moms". They are momma's boys raised by single mothers, and the second they get the paycheck they spoil her
+--- 14991798
+>>14988812
+The death penalty without right to appeal in the face of overwhelming evidence of capital offenses is the only way to move forward. Firing squads and mandated crematoria for perpetrators’ remains are the most practical way forward economically. The savings on keeping the demons alive could allow us to expand the incarceration of lesser offenders and purge society.
+--- 14991805
+>>14988779 (OP)
+They should just gas all of them
+--- 14991813
+>>14988779 (OP)
+Because mostly blacks then mexicans and arabs if you live in Europe get incarcerated making it racist and thus wrong. There is nothing wrong with tossing criminals in a pit.
+--- 14991821
+>>14989292
+>historical and material conditins that lead to a persistent criminal element
+This translates into FEEL GUILTY WHITEBOI, do explain how the fuck this is gonna reduce the crime rates you progressive lunatic.
+--- 14991829
+>>14989292
+>a small minority of a minority btfo'd my ancestors so the entire race should have to answer to it
+--- 14991871
+>to prevent crime we should commit mass crime against the entire population because some of them are criminals
+--- 14991877
+It doesn't work. I would beat you in any game where we can simulate the relevant effects including the human psychological effects. The US and China don't work, Denmark works, as long as it's Danish.
+--- 14991879
+>>14991871
+>Ruthlessly quickly imprisoning black criminals will negatively affect black people
+
+You white leftist are legit fucking insane holy shit
+--- 14991884
+>>14990401
+I don't get what you're trying to say here anon.
+
+>>14991821
+>This translates into FEEL GUILTY WHITEBOI, do explain how the fuck this is gonna reduce the crime rates you progressive lunatic.
+
+Not what I'm trying to invoke. I don't hold the entirety of African Americans responsible for the actions of individuals because at the end of the day, they utilized their autonomy to commit crimes. I don't hold white people living today responsible for the sins of the father but it's rather disingenuous to pretend that our institutions didn't actively create the conditions we see that promote being a criminal. I don't think there'll be some clean, cookie cutter answer to reducing crime rates and that's not even what my post was about. It was about the fact that you clowns can quote statistics like your life depends on it but then fail to realize that the total number of murder victims is something like 6k. 
+>>14991829
+>Perhaps we shouldn't be treating people as a monolithic group. These types of threads are cancerous to /his/
+>YOURE JUST COPING HERE HAVE MY CANNED /POL/-TIER RESPONSE
+--- 14991890
+>>14991879
+You want to kill all brown people
+--- 14991894
+People act like almost every 3rd world shithole never tried the "just kill them all approach" and failed
+--- 14991902
+>>14991884
+Listen lunatic the only thing I care about is reducing crime and having zero tolerance policy for black criminal offenders would reduce crime greatly in the US
+--- 14991910
+>>14991879
+That's basically what we already did and it lead to us also having a prison population that exceeds place like China despite having a far lower population size
+--- 14991912
+>>14991902
+How do you know? Why did your plan never work before?
+--- 14991917
+>>14988779 (OP)
+Just kill them. Seriously, what is the problem? If you are found guilty of too many or too serious a crime you should just be fucking shot dead outside the courthouse. Nobody would be upset with this policy aside from criminals and their fucked up families that probably deserve to die too.
+--- 14991921
+>>14991798
+Likely not feasible to execute that many people if you need overwhelming evidence in court, especially if the courts are also busy prosecuting lower tier offenders. It's not easy to get all the required evidence for one case, let alone every crime in a category like aggravated murder. You can nail some of them with DNA evidence but that's not quick.
+--- 14991922
+>>14991902
+I dont believe you
+--- 14991926
+>>14991912
+Black criminals on the loose are the reason we have so much crime in America, blacks do something psychopathic its called a misdemeanor because "the prisons are full of people of color"so the blacks are left to commit more psychopathic bullshit until they go too far and have to get charged. Black criminal teenagers have advantage of of this legal loophole white leftist lunatics like you have caused.
+--- 14991934
+>>14991910
+So what? As long as the crime is reduced thats all that matters who cares how the psychos feel in their pens
+--- 14991935
+>Violent crime drops massively exactly when "tough on crime," long sentences and mass incarceration starts to be a thing.
+>"M-must have been the lead in the gas! Nothing else can explain this..."
+--- 14991939
+>>14991894
+But anon, just remove the legal restrictions protecting citizens one more time. They didn't have enough power last time!
+--- 14991946
+If you have any black people as friends on social media you will have seen young blacks brandishing their firearms like unhinged psychos and nothing happens to them, these firearms are most of the time illegal and yet nothing happens to them. These same blacks can then admit they plan to kill other blacks using these weapons and nothing still happens to them. It is completely ridiculous how black criminals can just admit to their evil and the police will do nothing to them.
+--- 14991952
+>>14991935
+Criminal sentencing started getting harsher in the US well beforehand, back in the 70s and 80s. It was a piecemeal process that occurred state by state.
+--- 14991953
+One way to go about this is to actually track down the entire population. You need a social worker for every 1000 inhabitants or so, and when some youth starts being anti-social he goes on a list for close scrutiny. If some youth is 20 years old, has no job, not enrolled in some studies he needs to get arrested fast when he gets he does his first theft/drug offense
+--- 14991958
+>>14991917
+Based on the fact that you're already justifying murder you're in the group most likely to justify murder and commit it.
+Based on your own logic we could extend it to include people like you, killing people that justify murders would probably stop many murders and that's a win if we look at society like a math problem.
+>>14991926
+Don't live in a society with people that don't share your values. You either get global power or a working society and you chose global power.
+--- 14991959
+The reason I said that is, its proof that we are not arresting anything close to the bulk of evil criminal minded blacks in black areas if social media is full of blacks doing this twisted behavior constantly. Dont get me started on black youth in schools recording doing psychopathic shit to other blacks in the school, why the fuck are these blacks not behind bars exactly? Because they are black if they were white they would have been character assassinated a long time ago.
+--- 14991963
+>>14991958
+You make me sick like every white leftist you have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA HOW BAD BLACK ON BLACK CRIME IS, thats why you handwave it like its a dog pissing on the side walk, my policies would save far more black lives and future black lives than your moral supremacist insanity you fucking piece of shit
+--- 14991973
+>>14991912
+That is exactly how Giuliani reduced crime in NY
+--- 14991974
+>>14991953
+If you're not careful you just create a lot of newly traumatized, alienated young men with criminal connections. Hence why juvenile sentencing is usually less harsh and juvie facilities less purely punitive.
+--- 14991979
+Food deserts are proof the police havent taken in the bulk of the black criminal population in a black area either as you need alot of thieves to create a food desert. The Chicago riots a couple of weeks ago those were the fucking thieves who were ruining the business those scumbags were allowed to then attack motorist, burn down cars, and rob who knows how many because they were black. Complete 100 evidence of unredeemable genuinely evil black sociopaths and nothing happened to them none of them were fucking arrested. You see what Im talking about when I say most of the black criminal problem IS NOT BEHIND BARS?
+--- 14991981
+>>14989143
+>That said, I’m not a leftist. I’m a neoconservative.
+Oh so then everyone hates you and not just half the country.
+>why yes I do subscribe to the most thoroughly discredited political philosophy in modern times, why do you ask?
+--- 14991983
+>>14991926
+A felony charge remains a felony charge if the defendant is black.
+--- 14991994
+Obviously gangbangers wont be behind bars because they are organized but random psychos who kill, rob, and rape other blacks are on the loose in black communities. So on the loose that black communities are basically turning into areas that are almost 100% these sort of black people which was not the case in the Jim Crow times. Your leftist policies have done nothing but ruined and destroyed blacks.
+--- 14991995
+>>14989246
+>ou realize crime is one of the top 3 issues black americans vote on
+Let me guess they blame "the system" for not keeping them safe?
+--- 14991999
+>>14988779 (OP)
+One place in South America did this but with all the men butt naked
+--- 14992005
+>>14991963
+>my policies would
+At best patch inhuman globalism leading to death and decay by limiting human potential even more. You have no clue how anything works.
+What does black on black crime in your dystopia have to do with working societies? Why are you trying to build a society with people you despise?
+--- 14992011
+>>14992005
+See look it handwaves black on black crime again
+--- 14992013
+>>14991995
+It's not totally false. Many victims of crime are part of the underclass, in part because perps feel confident that nobody cares to investigate when the victim is already downtrodden.
+--- 14992015
+>>14992005
+He never mentioned humans.
+--- 14992029
+>>14992013
+>Im poor so I have every reason to torment another member of my race
+Oh fuck off with this shit Im starting to think you white progressive might simply be evil beings at this point
+--- 14992034
+>>14992029
+I didn't mention anything about how rich or poor the perps are.
+--- 14992045
+>>14992013
+Neither leftism nor defending blacks have any place on this website.
+--- 14992050
+>>14992034
+Its what you implied you fucking scum
+--- 14992055
+>>14992045
+>>14992050
+Holy seethe
+--- 14992057
+>>14992011
+The entity that prosecutes crime is the same one that forces you to live with blacks. Why would you appeal to it? Why would giving it more power to incarcerate or kill help anyone? How can you reach the conclusion that the problem is that this globalist demon doesn't have enough power over human lives?
+--- 14992061
+>>14991890
+Maybe. Maybe not.
+--- 14992072
+>>14992057
+Nothing wrong with cranking up arrest on black criminals period, africans would see nothing wrong with this.
+--- 14992084
+>>14991958
+>Based on the fact that you're already justifying murder you're in the group most likely to justify murder and commit it.
+Damn this logic is fucking laughable dude, I hope you aren't serious. The death penalty isn't murder in the first place, and even if it were, I certainly am not a murderer for merely suggesting that the justice system execute people. Even the judge who orders it isn't a murderer, nor is the prosecution. The only one arguably murdering someone during an execution is the executioner, which is a voluntary position that few would agree to do. The rest of the system merely suggests that someone ought to be killed, and will allow someone willing enough (the executioner) to do that job in return for a salary and legal immunity for these sanctioned killings. Both philosophically and ethically this system is perfectly sound.
+--- 14992095
+>>14992084
+>philosophically
+Sorry I meant politically.
+--- 14992128
+>>14992072
+>cranking up arrest on black criminals
+Enforcing the law is usually reasonable but none of the laws in America are reasonable. Everything is broken on all levels. By focusing on black crime you're avoiding the fundamental issue behind it which is multiculturalism doesn't work.
+>>14992084
+>I certainly am not a murderer for merely suggesting that the justice system execute people.
+Most people who murder see themselves as justified in the moment. You're demonstrating the capability of justifying such retribution to yourself. You're statistically more likely than average to convince yourself that your case is special and you should resolve it by killing people.
+The kind of people in the kind of emotional states where they commit the worst acts aren't discouraged by death at all. Often life in prison, being shot by a cop or being fried in a chair all seem like easy escapes in the moment.
+The death penalty is based on autism logic resting on the idea that people rationally calculate the outcomes of their actions like robots. The idea doesn't relate to reality.
+--- 14992199
+>>14992128
+>You're statistically more likely than average to convince yourself that your case is special and you should resolve it by killing people.
+Post a source or stfu
+
+>The death penalty is based on autism logic resting on the idea that people rationally calculate the outcomes of their actions like robots. The idea doesn't relate to reality.
+No it is based on the logic that the rest of society need not bear the burden of career criminals who do nothing for them but make their lives objectively worse in every possible way.
+--- 14992206
+>>14992199
+Also young black men are most statically likely to commit murder and they certainly aren't in favour of the death penalty considering their voting tendencies.
+--- 14992215
+>>14992050
+Its not implied at all, you just cant read
+--- 14992228
+>>14992199
+>Post a source or stfu
+It's basic logic. You don't understand how someone who justifies killing people is more likely to justify killing people?
+>>14992199
+>it is based on the logic that the rest of society need not bear the burden of career criminals
+Then the goal should be producing fewer criminals, which is a goal the death penalty and the US prison system in general work against. You just make more and more. Even your blacks were relatively civilized for a while.
+In the US jail completely releases the criminal from all the stresses of life he could never deal with, the death penalty is an even greater release.
+In Denmark the criminals turn pale thinking of spending a single additional day pretending to care what some catlady social worker says.
+--- 14992339
+>>14991798
+this. if a criminal is guilty of capital crime without any possibility of doubt, it should be capital punishment.
+
+also diagnosed psychopaths should be locked up and never released.
+--- 14992347
+>>14990596
+>inb4 jacked lumberjack felon revolt
+--- 14992350
+>>14991958
+niggers like you deserve to be raped & murdered by these people you simp so much for.
+--- 14992439
+>>14992350
+You're the one pretending you can build a society with them.
+--- 14992466
+Incarceration of innocent people is itself a crime, and no justice system is perfect at avoiding this. It's called "false imprisonment" when normal people without state power do it.
+Do those supposed crime reductions still exist once you consider state crimes, or do they go away?
+--- 14992588
+>>14992228
+>It's basic logic.
+You are making an argument about statistics and you have no statistics to prove your claim, so I'm not going to entertain this point anymore.
+
+As for your second point I agree the US prison system is flawed and its present existence actual creates more criminals, it does need reform. That point is mostly unrelated to my final point I will make here though. Personally I don't care whether a criminal is enjoying themselves in prison or not, if they are out of my life and unable to negatively affect me or my family or community am satisfied. If the death penalty is a release for them, I don't care, their removal from society is my release from the burden of their existence, all the better if it is permanent. What a prisoner feels about the death penalty is not relevant and shouldn't be relevant, what is relevant is how society feels about it, and I think most people rationally prefer the death penalty for chronic offenders and those who commit especially heinous crimes.
+
+The end.
+--- 14992632
+>>14992588
+>their removal from society is my release from the burden of their existence
+Your removal is my release from the burden of not having your money. I also suspect you may try to kill me in the future based on how passionately you argue for killing when you believe it serves you.
+--- 14992680
+>>14992588
+NTA, but prisoners and especially ex-cons are part of society. Pretty much every state with rule of law acknowledges this. The question we ask when considering how to handle them is how their needs do or don't conflict with those of the non-incarcerated population. Hence why prisons aren't death traps or torture chambers, at least to the degree that the responsible authority imposes fair treatment and the rule of law.
+--- 14992699
+>>14989237
+>But the most important issue is that they look weird and that's why they should live on a different continent
+holy based
+--- 14992702
+>>14992588
+>What a prisoner feels about the death penalty is not relevant
+How policies affect people in heated moments that may or may not lead to them becoming murderers is relevant to how many murderers there are and how much danger you're in of being murdered.
+--- 14992997
+>>14988779 (OP)
+>Where did this idea come from that “mass incarceration doesn’t work”?
+>
+>If you lock all the thugs up and never let them out, you’ll have less crime
+US crime statistics directly corroborate this, crime falls after high levels of policing and incarceration. 
+
+>>14988812
+>It's prohibitively expensive
+Money isn't real. More than half of the US economy is F.I.R.E. bullshit.
+
+God I love how blatantly stupid communists like you are, it's so overt.
+
+>HUIRR DURR PRISON COSTS LOTTA MONEY
+>crime is free though
+Do you also think it'd be cheaper overall to have no police? Lewl, fucking retard.
+--- 14993019
+>>14991894
+>third world shitholes
+Let's just say that crime is more than...skin deep anon ;) 
+
+and people also act like countries such as Singapore don't exist which are actually tough on crime and ostensibly very effective, reminds me of the drug debate, people in the US love to say it's impossible to stop drug use and that laws are draconian, but they are baby tier compared to Singapore which incidentally doesn't have a drug problem like the US
+--- 14993031
+>>14988989
+>>14988897
+black on White is preventable if they were removed, black on black will happen as long as blacks exist, White on White will happen as long as Whites exist.
+Murders on eachother would end entirely if we had common sense segregation or repatriation.
+--- 14993067
+>>14993019
+Asiatic nations have low crime because asian people have a shame based society that looks down on criminality where as we americans think blacks killing each other is something that should be applauded because its racist to think otherwise
+--- 14993068
+>>14992997
+Crime is expensive too. It dissuades investment and breaks up communities.
+--- 14993092
+>>14993019
+Singapore is an incredibly affluent island nation where police and surveillance are widespread, guns are strictly controlled, and laws on things like hate speech and settlement patterns prevent a lot of interpersonal tensions. It's not something you can expect to be replicated in a larger, freer country.
+--- 14993093
+>>14993031
+Yay our murderers are now the same race as their victims 
+
+Who cares
+--- 14993113
+>>14993093
+You must understand white on white murder is infrequent compared to black on black thats why no one cares about it like black on black murder, I can literally post the black on black murders that happened for this week right now but as a white on white murder that hasnt happened yet despite there being more crackers than negroes in America greatly now dont you just find that weird? While Joe kills a guy once a month, Jamal and Tyquan shoot up someone once per day instead, now tell me you fucking cuck piece of shit who is the greater threat to human life Joe or Jamal and Tyquan?
+--- 14993115
+>>14993092
+>what no you can't just ignore the conditions involved, you think people can limitlessly adapt like that?
+>btw we NEED billions of third world migrants, they'll assimilate easily
+lol
+you always see this exact same retard rhetoric from left wing apologists
+
+if Singapore can do it, anyone can do it
+it's proof of concept
+--- 14993124
+>>14993093
+black murderers are comically inept at killing you. If I have to die, I at least want to murdered by someone with a decent IQ so they properly empty my bank account first and then blow my brains out with a well armed shot. Your typical nig crime spree means they try to execute the person using some 6th grader logic like spraying their face with RAID and then jumping on their chest a lot, before robbing their pocket of $3.50 and a stick of juicy fruit. Blacks literally cannot do anything right.
+--- 14993127
+>>14993115
+>muh conditions
+Acknowledging muh racism wont drop black on black crime rates so its fucking retarded to keep insisting we do this, your intention is not to solve crime you are just an ideological lunatic who wants us whites to feel guilty
+--- 14993135
+>>14993113
+That doesn't mean they're not going to murder people, just their victims will be of a different race. And I hate to break it you you, but I literally don't care whose race the victim is.
+--- 14993137
+>>14993124
+>black murderers are comically inept at killing you
+Driveby shooters dont really give a shit if they hit their target but actual homicidal blacks who are out to kill a target will fuck them up in very horrifying ways like that poor little white boy in 2020 who had a black psycho walk up to him and blast his brains out unprovoked. Weird how I literally cant find a white on black equivalent of this for this century.
+--- 14993143
+>>14993124
+I don't care how you prefer to die.
+--- 14993144
+>>14993124
+>>14993093
+here is a real example of negro criminality at work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Fi_murders
+ 
+
+They first tried to murder their victims "silent like n shit" by having them drink drano because that was something they saw in a movie. That didn't work. Then they tried killing them by shoving a pen down their ear. That didn't work. They obviously raped and murdered all the women (they suceeded at that, so credit to them). The entire adventure netted them like $70. Completely inept.
+--- 14993145
+>>14993092
+>we're more free because we have huge amounts of violent crime and death
+Weird flex, but ok.
+--- 14993155
+>>14993145
+>free
+>say anything bad about blacks even if you are black yourself
+>get socially crucified
+--- 14993166
+>>14993144
+Yeah and in the 80s bunch of white hicks shot and raped bunch of teenagers smoking weed because because they thought the police were allowed to do that
+--- 14993168
+>>14993166
+>shot
+ah, imagine having the foresight to bring a gun to a murder, such a wonderful thing to be attacked by someone with adult human inteligence!
+--- 14993176
+>>14988779 (OP)
+Extremely Extremely expensive
+/thread
+--- 14993184
+>>14993166
+>in the 80s
+You just proved how infrequent white violent behavior is, you lefties are so stupid if you dont realize the fact you retards have to jump 60 years into the past and bring up lynhcings shows that whites are basically non violent people in general. Where as me I can show you this you fucking piece of shit
+BLACK MAN CHASES LITTLE WHITE GIRL INTO HER HOME AND SHOOTS HER AND HER FUCKING FAMILY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT
+THIS HAPPENED IN THIS FUCKING MONTHN YOU ANTI WHITE PIECE OF SHIT
+https://abcnews.go.com/US/6-year-parents-neighbor-shot-after-basketball-rolls/story?id=98717589
+--- 14993186
+>>14993168
+And that one case proves everything about tens of thousands of people and that stupid white murderers don't exist, I am in agreement
+--- 14993194
+>>14993092
+>Singapore is an incredibly affluent island nation where police and surveillance are widespread
+Tiny city state
+
+>guns are strictly controlled, and laws on things like hate speech and settlement patterns prevent a lot of interpersonal tensions.
+Interpersonal tensions still occur lmao.
+
+
+> It's not something you can expect to be replicated in a larger, freer country.
+Not even Songapireans like it abd the whole "gem in a sea of poverty" aspect it had vanished as SEA got better.
+--- 14993198
+>>14993184
+He was the one who posted something from the 70s. White people do not kill children, it is known
+--- 14993207
+>>14993186
+>White murderers
+Havent turned settlements into god forsake hellholes due to their murder rates so they are not an argument you anti white lunatic. This is very obvious in Europe a far whiter place than America where their murderous white minority have yet to make cities as unlivable as their psychotic arab and african recent imports on the otherhand. The fucking police in Sweden are so used to a very low frequency of murder that the arab and african crime has them completely stumped thats what the criminal white minority creates in their own land. Stfu you progressive piece of shit.
+>Muh Russia
+NAME ONE AREA IN AMERICA IS A HELLHOLE DUE TO HUMANS OR RUSSIAN DESCENT CRIMINAL VIOLENCE NAME ONE YOU FUCKER NAME ONE NOW
+--- 14993220
+>>14993207
+You are correct, there has never been slums made up of white people.
+--- 14993238
+>>14993220
+>slums
+Are a thing globally in all races, you are so mentally ill you dont even realize the average white human in America is poor as shit while your so called oppressed African kings and queens live like nobles compared to them. No one fucking helps poor whites in America at all they get the bare brunt of this affirmative action lunacy the most the poor whites who want to get into the middle class oh whoops sorry you aint diverse and you clearly have privilege despite coming from a mining town that is economically in the shitter lets give this application to a black male who completely failed all of their classes and most likely be arrested and kicked out of the university for random criminal shenanigans he engages in because DIVERSITY IS STRAIGHT FUCK WHITE SUPREMACY
+--- 14993262
+>>14993184
+>infrequent white violent behavior
+Lmao you actually believe this? Americans are inherently violent.
+--- 14993266
+black men commit alot of crime and therefore are incarcerated at a higher rate. "mass incarceration" wouldn't be a thing if black men didn't exist.
+--- 14993269
+>>14993198
+>White people do not kill children
+You sure?
+--- 14993276
+mass incaceration "doesnt work" because blacks cant stop committing crime, its that simple. you can lock up a billion blacks, the ones on the outside will still commit crime.
+--- 14993278
+>>14993266
+>"mass incarceration" wouldn't be a thing if black men didn't exist.
+It still would exist. America has a tendency for it since day one. Many prisons still exist in areas with a white population. Mass incarceration isn't just merely having prisons allover the place but rather the cultural and political beliefs of the area.
+--- 14993281
+>>14993262
+If such a thing were true the whitest cities in the US would be the no go zones for everyone including tourist not the black ones. Whites would also have a violent savage reputation back in the Old World too since obviously euros would be violent psychos if americans are too since americans literally euros seperated by 500 years of genetic distance. None of this exists so your argument about muh white people actually violent is complete nonsense.
+--- 14993285
+>>14990628
+people who cant just live a crimeless life, mental people
+--- 14993286
+>>14993281
+>None of this exists so your argument about muh white people actually violent is complete nonsense.
+Have you seen the news? He'll compared to their peers in Europe they still have pretty bad metrics
+--- 14993287
+>>14993276
+If there are still so many criminals out there that frequent black crime occurs then it means blacks are no mass incarcerated they are under incarcerated big time. I have no clue why blacks care so much when their criminal scum gets arrested for doing very evil things to other black people. Ive notice many blacks have this really stupid idea blacks fill up prisons because white people call the police on them even though alot of blacks that say this have called the cops on black criminals that attacked them before.
+--- 14993292
+>>14993278
+it literally would not exist. look at Europe, small prison population with very low crime rates. Asia is the same way, with even less prisoners. 
+
+Thanks to increased immigration to europe from africa, the incarcerations rates have increased like 10x since the 1990s.
+--- 14993293
+>>14993286
+Brown folk move to white countries easily thats the ultimate proof whites are not violent people, if they were the brown immigrants would meet white teenagers with sticks that beat them to death for no explained reason
+--- 14993295
+>>14993287
+>I have no clue why blacks care so much when their criminal scum gets arrested for doing very evil things to other black people.
+Because prisons lack space and funding even in areas that back mass Incarceration on top of no real rehabilitation policies to mitigate recidivism.
+--- 14993299
+>>14993295
+Anon please there is no way those ghetto sociopaths are even thinking this remotely this is what YOU think the white liberal. The average black who whines about the police killing blacks is also a psycho with a nice black on black crime record.
+--- 14993305
+>>14993299
+What are you sperging on about? In states that use mass incarceration they cannot afford to provide adequate conditions and cell space which has one if the reasons why it's collapsing.
+--- 14993309
+>>14993305
+And prison staff face either jackshit pay (so mass turnover) or the prisons have to offer exorbitant salaries to key staff to keep them such as how overpaid prison doctors are in the US.
+--- 14993313
+>>14993305
+>adequate conditions
+Criminal monkeys dont deserve shit but a nice box that cages them in, this idea we need to treat criminals fine is exactly why our cities are now full of crime you liberal criminal loving lunatics
+--- 14993342
+>>14993313
+Nah you are insane nigga. If you want mass incarceration you need to fund that shit and not half ass it if you don't want it to fail. Unless you are some deranged LatAm who has a imprisonment kink.
+--- 14993388
+>>14992057
+>The entity that prosecutes crime is the same one that forces you to live with blacks.
+No it isn't. Segregation was legal in some states and struck down by the Supreme Court. Now we largely live among those in our social class, but that doesn't stop communist jews from shitting up nice places with Section 8 commieblocks. So historically speaking not all politicians are good for nothing leftists who let feral blacks walk all over Americans like the pieces of shit in Jew York or California that order you to run away if they attack you. Politicians are more complex than that. And not every cop was an impotent blm tranny, even if they are pussy whipped by the state. In fact, the state used to treat blacks appropriately. Now they are free to riot and loot. To answer your question, the people being discussed are not human, so I as a human have no problem with police punishing them for committing crime or larping as criminals, which the vast majority of them do. And this has actually worked when blue areas weren't entirely ruled by pussies or corrupt blacks
+--- 14993399
+>>14993342
+Fail how? Just throw the scum into their cage thats all you need to do.
+--- 14993410
+>>14993278
+>It still would exist.
+Coooope. Whites are underrepresented in crime even if the jewish FBI pads our numbers with hispanics and Arabs. Most communities would leave their doors unlocked at night. Australia was where white criminals were sent to die and yet they live better than blacks
+--- 14993414
+>>14993388
+>stop communist jews from shitting up nice places with Section 8 commieblocks.
+Anon that is homeowners doing that.
+
+>So historically speaking not all politicians are good for nothing leftists who let feral blacks walk all over Americans like the pieces of shit in Jew York or California that order you to run away if they attack you. 
+Both states are actually pretty segregated.
+
+>which the vast majority of them do. And this has actually worked when blue areas weren't entirely ruled by pussies or corrupt blacks
+Lmao those states equally as bad if not worse. Do you just grab your info from crazy blogs and subreddits? Tgis vkards needs flags
+--- 14993418
+>>14993115
+I said nothing about immigration. 
+>>14993194
+It's still by far the wealthiest and least corrupt place in the region.
+--- 14993423
+>>14993399
+You need money for that. 
+
+>>14993410
+Lol you are going on a tangent at this point. Do you not know how other groups even see Americans let alone white ones?
+--- 14993427
+>>14993414
+>segregated
+Due to evil black behavior, literally no race likes blacks in America, some races like spics can physically fuck them up and get away with it because they are le oppressed minority too, others like the various asians have to take it up the ass however. It isnt that white people are le racist who hate living around blacks, it has and always has been that
+BLACKS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO COEXIST PEACEFULLY WITH NON BLACK PEOPLE. You can even see this in London where pakis are the majority yet blacks still piss them off with their bullshit
+--- 14993428
+>>14993292
+In Europe the stereotypically criminal minority is either Roma people or Arabs.
+--- 14993431
+>>14993418
+>least corrupt place
+It has plenty of corruption. It just hides them in different ways. Singapore just doesn't have that same pull because there's way more options for a worker to move to. Currently Singapore has to fill up kabour vacancies in the high and low end jobs so more and more of its labour force are just temporary expats
+--- 14993436
+>>14988779 (OP)
+These threads always attract ideas too dumb to be called edgy
+>I'd solve prison by just KILLING EM ALL
+--- 14993437
+>>14993423
+I only care about the truth tranny, not what retards like you falsely believe. Our cities, like Detroit, Baltimore, or Chicago ould also return to being centers of learning and not oversized ghettos if not for blacks, in addition to being more safe
+--- 14993442
+>>14993427
+It didn't matter if you were an angel - segregation laws still kept you down. The governor of AR basically shut down Little Rock public schools for a year rather than admit ten black kids who had excellent grades and no behavior problems lol.
+--- 14993446
+>>14993436
+Killing prisoners would save money for the prisons so thats a good idea shold be done to people given life sentences
+--- 14993452
+>>14993427
+>others like the various asians have to take it up the ass however
+Asians aren't a monolith. Flips and Chibese multimillionaire are not the same.
+
+>BLACKS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO COEXIST PEACEFULLY WITH NON BLACK PEOPLE. You can even see this in London where pakis are the majority yet blacks still piss them off with their bullshit.
+Lol no. You seem to forget that whites tend to leave neighborhoods with Asians. Giw dies that fit your narrative exactly?
+--- 14993456
+>>14993442
+Im talking about NOW you lunatic not le Jim Crow times
+--- 14993459
+>>14993437
+Baltimore would still be blighted if overnight it became white. It's got few decent jobs and its position is perfect for smuggling guns and drugs.
+--- 14993463
+>>14993452
+>whites tend to leave neighborhoods with Asians
+Yh the same race that views Japan as utopia vacant if an area is too chinese get the fuck out of here
+--- 14993468
+>>14993313
+>Send normal person to prison for 6 months for some relatively minor, non-violent offence
+>They get immediately rasicalised and brutalised by a needlessly harsh prison environment and turn into a violent criminal
+--- 14993471
+>>14993452
+>Asians aren't a monolith
+They come from cultures that look down on casual violence so they cannot attack random black psychos that INTENTIONALLY target their race in America
+--- 14993472
+>>14993176
+just defund the police to save money
+--- 14993473
+>>14993437
+>Our cities, like Detroit, Baltimore, or Chicago ould also return to being centers of learning
+They lost their relevancy ages ago. Also Detroit and Chicago's poor areas are very self-contained if you actually have been there.
+--- 14993484
+>>14993468
+>He thinks any of us sees prison as rehab
+You have to be completely insane believing locking up a guy with psychos is gonna make him a well functioning productive citizen when hes out, prison is TORTURE get that in your head fucking liberal scum. Very evil felons like most black gangbangers shouldnt even be able to sleep peacefully in prisons they should be getting physically tortured every single day.
+--- 14993485
+>>14993471
+>They come from cultures that look down on casual violence
+Lmao you haven't seen them at all. You know how fucked some if them can get?
+
+>so they cannot attack random black psychos that INTENTIONALLY target their race in America
+Still eating that covid media drip?
+--- 14993492
+>>14993473
+>Just stay in le white areas 
+You are only proving us right and Detroit is 80% black the entire city is a giant no go zone for white people in general, as its so black that the black supremacist psychopathy of detroit blacks is a whole new tier of batshit crazy compared to blacks in say Chiraq for example its pretty much a second South Africa.
+--- 14993496
+>>14993484
+>prison is TORTURE get that in your head fucking liberal scum.
+It's not supposed to be torture. Even in the very first implementation ages back never tried to use it as a form of torture.
+
+
+>>14993484
+>Very evil felons like most black gangbangers shouldnt even be able to sleep peacefully in prisons they should be getting physically tortured every single day.
+I bet you typed this up with one hand lol. Keep your torture fetish on the down low at least.
+--- 14993499
+>>14993459
+Without blacks you could actually walk about Baltimore without worrying about some black psycho shooting you, robbing you or raping you if you are female. The simple fact the outside becomes ridiculously safer means businesses can come back to Baltimore and make a profit creating jobs.
+--- 14993502
+>>14993492
+>Just stay in le white areas.
+It's not actually the "white" area and as a heads up there are plenty of whites who live outside the downtown core
+--- 14993504
+>>14993473
+>They lost their relevancy ages ago
+Yes. When NIGGERS flooded them and crime/racial terrorism ensued
+--- 14993506
+>>14993496
+Like all leftist loons you do no understand blacks in the slighest especially their truely monstrous demonic scum the gangbangers, the majority of gangbangers have very disturbing academic disciplinary records going all the way back when they were literal fucking children in other words
+THESE ARE LEGIT PURELY EVIL BLACK PEOPLE WHO ASPIRED SINCE THEY WERE KIDS TO TORMENT, RUIN, AND DESTROY BLACK COMMUNITIES FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES YET YOU STILL FEEL EMPATHY FOR THEM
+--- 14993510
+>>14993499
+>The simple fact the outside becomes ridiculously safer means businesses can come back to Baltimore and make a profit creating jobs.
+No anon. Why would companies pick Baltimore when they left for better places prior to the crime jump? As that anon said its also in a key location for smuggling abd drugs so why do you think those would go away exactly?
+--- 14993514
+>>14993506
+Prison is not designed to be torture. The minute you do that it has failed.
+--- 14993518
+>>14993510
+They left because blacks make it impossible to make a profit thats why but they will lie and say that wasnt the case.
+--- 14993537
+>>14993518
+So you pulled that out your ass?
+--- 14993541
+>>14993510
+>so why do you think those would go away exactly?
+Because we know the criminals there are black
+--- 14993543
+>>14993506
+So you only want to torture the black prisoners?
+--- 14993558
+>>14993541
+You think companies masturbate to crime stats all day? Why pick Baltimore when it offers no real niche or utility and manufacturing left ages ago?
+--- 14993561
+>>14993543
+The torture is justice for all the human suffering they have inflicted in their pre caged lives it has nothing to do with me. You have no idea how evil black gangbangers are you sheltered little bitch, they literally fucking kill innocent people as an initiation into their psycho clique
+--- 14993566
+>>14993558
+Its a major US city you imbecile of course companies would set up shop in a black free Baltimore because that mean races that arent black will now populate it and buy their shit far more often than the thieving black psychos
+--- 14993593
+>>14993566
+You dint know what you are talking about. Many areas are extremely segregated with no black fir de ages yet the investment STILL hasn't come in droves.
+--- 14993600
+>>14993561
+Prison isn't a place for torture. Also why do you think they'd stop at just torturing black prisoners and target others too? You think being Hispanic ir white would "spare" you.
+--- 14993608
+>>14993593
+Baltimore is over 50% black if doesnt matter in the slightest how muh waah waah segregated it is and Detroit is a full on african country in racial demographics. Also dont act like blacks have no power in these cities the black supremacist lunacy in these cities is so high that the very white liberals who live in them admit that blacks can do extremely evil things to them and get away with it because the fucking law is black, the fucking courts are black, and the fucking police are black they wont help your cracker ass one bit unless you got alot of money to bribe someone who controls them. The reason these cities have le unemployed black young people is because those young black people dont fucking want jobs to begin with in the same way they give no shits about higher education either not because of le oppression but they are just horrible pieces of shit who think killing,robbing, and raping other blacks is hilarious.
+--- 14993611
+>>14993600
+You think I care if some white serial killer gets tortured?
+--- 14993625
+>>14993608
+Lmao you are ranting so hard. Why do you think Baltimore would s6ddenlu change? There's other "white" towns and cities that have never recovered from the list of manufacturering and jobs. Why is Baltimore any different? 
+
+>>14993611
+Why do you assume he's a serial killer?
+--- 14993642
+>>14993625
+Baltimore is not comparable to them as its a metropolitan city and one of the cities that made America known in the Old World
+--- 14993650
+>>14993642
+CIties change all the time you retard.
+--- 14993659
+>>14993650
+But the regression in Baltimore is unnatural, there are many documentares on the black criminal problem in Baltimore yet you choose to act like this city is remotely normal by American standards
+--- 14993667
+>>14993659
+Because city jobless isn't quite rate. Also the city fucked itself in the past by passing so many laws shifting blacks around in segregated zones allover the place that it fucked the housing market that initially desired the ordinances in thr first place
+--- 14993697
+>>14993667
+For example if the city suddenly rekabeks an area "black" that fucks over any homeowner living there of any race. On top of that Baltimore placed highways that ran through many neighborhoods gutting their value and targetted certain ones to do so
+--- 14993778
+>>14993558
+>manufacturing
+What is this, the 1940s? The manufacturing industry declined nationwide with the advent of machinery and outsourcing. Service industry is the largest by now, so it looks like most whites adjusted to the decline fine. Stop defending apes
+--- 14993873
+>>14988831
+death sentence is allegedly even more expensive because the appeals process is more stringent (most countries have a higher standard for death than for life in prison). also because anti-death penalty groups will constantly raise legal challenges to make it more expensive then say "see its too expensive"
+--- 14993899
+>>14993778
+>Service industry is the largest by now
+Only the areas that could abd have the population to back it up.
+
+>looks like most whites adjusted to the decline fine.
+Not even remotely true lol. You know nothing brownie.
+--- 14993909
+>>14993499
+Oh yeah never mind the poverty, decay, and perfect conditions for smuggling.
+--- 14993913
+>>14993873
+>also because anti-death penalty groups will constantly raise legal challenges to make it more expensive then say "see its too expensive"
+It's not even just that. If you fuck it up you basically spent millions on the process because of how costly the actual killing by the state costs. Even in states that have it, they only really do it for cases they think it can pass on.
+--- 14993916
+>>14993873
+Yeah but the appeals process is pretty important. Even with appeals allowed, there are wrongful executions.
+--- 14993944
+>>14989292
+You stupid fuck, blacks themselves foment criminality, so why shouldn't they answer for it? Even the black mayor of Chicago defends looting scum, and when blacks end up living in "food deserts" they continue to blame "the system"/racism for their woes. The actual culprit is black criminals who rob stores and start trouble until they lose money. Blacks just take it all for granted. What they should do is start tearing criminals limb from limb because the threat of going to jail obviously isn't enough to keep them out of jail, especially if they aren't affiliated with a gang. Victims' families should take matters into their own hands, the disgustingness and filth should be purged. They partake in anti-social behavior and shoot themselves in the foot to own the white man. A good example of this is their behavior in schools. There are high schools in Baltimore with a graduation rate below 50%, and city-wide, the rate comes up to 68%. So 1 in 3 is a high school dropout. They are never going to be jews but their social standing and proclivity to commit crimes is their own doing and not taken seriously enough. Meanwhile the faggots lose their shit when a white man kills a nig in self defense. They believe all whites responsible and love to make the fates of other blacks like Floyd or Trayvon Martin about themselves so why shouldn't I hold them to their own standards? If they believe an attack on one is an attack on them the opposite should apply and
+>whites should hold all blacks responsible for attacks on whites against blacks
+>blacks should hold their own responsible, but they'll never do that
+--- 14993979
+>>14993899
+>Only the areas that could abd have the population to back it up.
+Literally everywhere, retarded nigger lover, and Maryland has millions of people. Is one of the richest states. Stop being a fucking faggot, the manufacturing industry hasn't been big in decades
+--- 14994039
+>>14993979
+>Literally everywhere, retarded nigger lover.
+Lol not really. Many areas are just husks. You need to stop fixating on the few exceptions. Look at West Virginia lol.
+--- 14994049
+>>14993944
+Lol you are frothing at the mouth. Did you get banned from reddit cuz these types of rant posts are pretty common in there
+--- 14994057
+>>14993979
+>Maryland has millions of people. Is one of the richest states.
+Also is 34% Black.
+--- 14994072
+>>14991973
+He didn't. Crime was reducing before he came in for quite some time and Giuliani just lied that he was the eon that caused it
+--- 14994088
+>>14994049
+Not an argument nigger lover
+No I don't post on nigger lover websites
+Now if you'll excuse me I'll be watching a hockey game that is almost nigger-free instead of arguing with nigger loving npcs
+--- 14994092
+>>14994057
+Blacks are poor in Maryland
+https://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-racial-disparities-employment-20180416-story.html
+--- 14994106
+>>14994039
+Ah West Virginia, leftists' favorite outlier to pretend whites are equal to blacks
+--- 14994111
+>>14994088
+>Now if you'll excuse me I'll be watching a hockey game that is almost nigger-free instead of arguing with nigger loving npcs
+You are the one that can't stop talking about Niggers.
+--- 14994114
+>>14993207
+Russia itself is a hellhole.
+--- 14994115
+>>14994111
+And you are defending niggers
+You even capitalized nigger
+--- 14994117
+>>14994115
+And why does this capitalization trigger you?
+--- 14994131
+>>14994114
+UHM ASCHULLY THEYRE NOT WHITE
+--- 14994150
+>>14993916
+I agree, I'm not sure I have a solution.
+--- 14994643
+>create the equivalent of NEETs just to satisfy your rhetoric
+--- 14994649
+>>14993873
+Don't allow indefinite appeals.
+Take scumbags out by having a firing squad behind the courthouse.
+--- 14994652
+>>14989216
+>We live in a nation where rule-of-law dominates. You can’t oppress 12% of a nation because of 0.0003%.
+Kek, 1 in 3 black men is a felon
+--- 14994653
+>>14994649
+>Take scumbags out by having a firing squad behind the courthouse.
+That's what shitholes do anon. Do you live in a shithole thirdie state?
+--- 14994658
+>>14994652
+You misquoted that "stat" wrong. It's 1 in 3 assuming 2001 incarceration trends stayed the same. They didn't however.
+--- 14994665
+>>14994658
+This is literally on whitehouse.gov anon
+--- 14994670
+>>14994665
+As of 2008 the inareration rate for Black men is 1 in 9
+--- 14994676
+>>14994670
+https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2022/05/09/expanding-economic-opportunity-for-formerly-incarcerated-persons/
+>All told, as of 2010, nearly 1 in 3 Black men have felony convictions
+On whitehouse.gov. During the Biden administration. Even your number is much higher than 0.000003%. That's over 10%
+--- 14994683
+>>14988779 (OP)
+
+The majority of people that are in jail are in jail over minor crimes like possession of weed or unpaid debts. There was a leak a while ago about how rightwing states run a debt racket where they jail as much people as possible over debt for the slave labor. Bourgeoisie and unemployed stooges like you and >>14991917 are tyrants.
+--- 14994705
+>>14994676
+and targeting such a population is stupid considering men from other races would get caught up in it too.
+--- 14994714
+>>14994670
+>the inareration rate for Black men
+Not the same thing, nigger loving npc! You could have easily looked this up but you chose not to, and you still make niggers look bad. Incarceration rate refers to current prison population. Prison sentences end, so we are not even on the same wavelength. 1 in 9 currently behind bars is insane. please
+--- 14994715
+>>14994714
+Incarceration is the rate for ones currently in prison. Felony conviction covers people who also served time or long left crime.
+--- 14994717
+>>14994715
+>Felony conviction covers people who also served time or long left crime.
+In other words, criminals.
+--- 14994718
+>>14994714
+>1 in 9 currently behind bars is insane. please
+and the rates for other males in America is still pretty bad to. So why not jail those men too or expand the system to detain more men?
+--- 14994721
+>>14994717
+Not really.
+--- 14994725
+>>14994653
+That's what shitholes don't do.
+
+How retarded do you have to be to want a serial killer to stay alive?
+There's no guarantee he stays in prison for life.
+If society collapses, he is free to rape and murder again.
+--- 14994728
+>>14994718
+Shut up, nigger animal.
+--- 14994731
+>>14994721
+You commit a crime, you're a criminal
+--- 14994754
+>>14988779 (OP)
+Look at all that diversity.
+--- 14994796
+>>14994683
+Even if what you mentioned is not jewish hearsay, I don't care anyway. And guess what? You wanted this. You wanted race consciousness everywhere. And guess what? I now see you as subhumans not worthy of respect or empathy.

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@@ -163,3 +163,765 @@ Why is the Anthrogenica goblinito italian such a whining ape?
 --- 14989171
 >>14989164
 This time he was quite strong I must say, he whined only in the last post and this was actually the last post.
+--- 14989386
+>>14988795 (OP)
+Romans and ancient Greeks were less yamnaya than modern Italians and Greeks, so were even less white. Also many Greeks were from MENA so were unironiclally MENA-shifted.
+--- 14989405
+>>14989386
+>less white 
+No evidence of this. And Yamnaya ancestry doesn't equal whiteness. Mediterraneans received later gene flow from the Near East. 
+
+East Med != farmer
+--- 14989408
+>>14989386
+>19% WSH instead of 15%
+So Ionians were even more Aryan than Achaeans? Wow!
+(see >>14988806, retard)
+--- 14989439
+>>14989408
+>more Aryan
+Only woman. The logkas samples with 40% steppe are women too. Greek civilization was anatolian man and steppe woman.
+--- 14989453
+>>14989439
+The sex bias in favor of Yamnaya men was confirmed. The whole palace of Nestor is R1b. It's over, darktroon.
+--- 14989455
+>>14988795 (OP)
+Senatorial Mediterraneans are predestined to rule the world.
+--- 14989463
+>>14988964
+>>14989088
+/thread
+--- 14989465
+>>14989463
+Did you make my pizza, goblin?
+--- 14989472
+>>14989465
+Pizza is not delivered to Kamchatka.
+--- 14989475
+>>14989472
+Bring it to me yourself then.
+--- 14989497
+>>14989475
+My establishment has a strict policy where we only serve humans. Mya apologies. Now if you excusea me. I have tah cookah da pizza.
+--- 14989517
+>>14989144
+True
+--- 14989525
+>>14989497
+>>14989517
+This shitalian servant is mad now. Sad.
+--- 14989553
+>>14989525
+It'sa justah dio policy of mya good-ah establishment. We-a had you genetically tested and for some reason we were told your closest living relative was some sort of fungus endemic to the island of Svenskøya in-a svalvard. We are a very confused about this. We a tried to ask notorious race-a experto hakan about it and he mumbled something about the ibero-maurusians and the bandigara escarpment coupled with a something about a meteorite falling into a chukotkan swamp befor-e leaving us.
+--- 14989661
+>>14989165
+Yes, Pedro. The Grecco-Roman statues weren't actually painted. It's all a conspiracy
+--- 14989666
+>>14989661
+Yes some statues even retained their natural paint.
+--- 14989677
+>>14988795 (OP)
+>Illya wuz everything
+>Still completely irrelevant to anyone outside of niche E-groups.
+If your genes actually meant anything you'd be AT LEAST running a small criminal enterprise or business by now. Not shitposting about archaeogenetics on 4channel.
+--- 14989683
+>>14989677
+Race is real for the record. but those ayyrian genes are clearly not doing any good within our friend here. 
+Faggot larps as cultures he doesn't care about beyond how he can ascribe value to himself based upon their achievements while never seeing a horse in his fucking life. Let alone riding one.
+--- 14989789
+>>14989677
+>>14989683
+Ressentiment.
+--- 14989885
+>>14989789
+mordvix has ressentiment for europeans, yep
+--- 14990069
+>that schizo rusnigger insulting meds and calling them farm equipment
+--- 14990127
+>>14988795 (OP)
+they weren't "white" as in north west european
+--- 14990219
+I don't get it. so according to ilya alpine celts were wops, but actual wops were huwite? hows that make sense? doesn't the whole of southern europe being wops make more sense?
+--- 14990226
+>>14990219
+Shhh. Let nordicists have their cope. It's the only thing they have.
+--- 14990230
+>>14990219
+The North Italian/Iberian/South French like DNA profile seems to be the most common in ancient South Europe.
+--- 14990231
+>>14990226
+shut up wop, point is wops have always been lesser humans
+--- 14990254
+Don't medbugs feel humilliated by having to speak, think, worship and follow indoeuropean cultures while being farmgoblins?
+Seems quite pathetic to have no roots but those forced upon you by foreigners
+--- 14990274
+>>14988804
+FPBP
+--- 14990278
+>>14990254
+I think it's the other way round, a certain section of the schizo community has gone full error 404 once the greeks and romans were (obviously) found out to be southrons. All those years LARPing as the nordic hellenes and then they come out 15% steppe
+--- 14990289
+>>14990254
+Germanics, celts and slavs are farmers too. Indoeuropean nomads in steppe were destroyed by turkics and mongols.
+--- 14990300
+>>14990231
+Cope. Western culture is based on those "brown wops". 
+Just think about the Nord's legacy like...uhhh, Vikings and shiiieet, and uuum ,uuuuhh cool Nordic, Aryan stuff I'm sure.
+--- 14990327
+>>14990289
+Nah
+Farmnigger is the signature ancestry of medbugs. The most farmnigger the more medbug.
+But medbugs have no farmnigger religion. No farmnigger language, no farmnigger Ydna... everything extinct. They are mere slaves for those that genocided their kin
+--- 14990405
+why can modern southern europeans be genetically modeled as half Arab half western european? but ancient ones couldn't
+--- 14990450
+>>14990405
+--- 14990516
+>>14988795 (OP)
+what's really upside down comes from the quite modern ressentment based inverted hierarchy where that which is basest ought to be elevated as a sort of "revenge" against that which is more special
+in this case this is a predictable "pendulum swing" where a certain excessive nordicism results in a reaction of all sorts of shitskins/third worlders but also the current local squatters have to go the opposite way and often claim "uhm akshually they wuz brown", as if the ancients themselves don't blow the fuck out of this notion since they considered themselves "white" in a basic sense, not as white as their norther neighbors of course, but certainly not like their southern neighbors either
+to project this mentality on aristocratic minded ancient elites is preposterous, as if they'd see the common traits of the plebshit they ruled over as something desirable for themselves
+so of course things like lily skin and light hair for women would be seen as special/aristocratic, precisely because it wasn't a common sight among the basest men; that of course doesn't mean it would be super common either among the elites, but it wouldn't be looked down
+--- 14990575
+>>14990516
+>as if the ancients themselves don't blow the fuck out of this notion since they considered themselves "white" in a basic sense
+so? iberians considered themselves white in the colonial ages
+
+the romans were brown people by modern standards
+--- 14990585
+>>14990575
+they were certainly swarthoids, i don't know what that guy is up to
+the greeks were even swarhtier
+--- 14990594
+>>14990516
+>ressentment
+it's resentment ilya, with one s
+--- 14990605
+>>14990575
+>>14990585
+utter nonsense debunked by the ancients themselves
+look I get it, every morning after you wake up you take a shit, then go to the mirror and get a feeling you haven't flushed, but stop projecting your loss at the human lottery onto the past
+--- 14990610
+recap of this entire thread
+we lost, r1b lost, ilya won
+--- 14990621
+>>14990610
+it's him, look at that weak body
+--- 14990630
+>>14990610
+mordcuck can't throw a punch
+--- 14990639
+>>14988964
+Wales What the fuck, stealth Aryans?
+--- 14990648
+>>14990610
+lol
+--- 14990659
+>>14990605
+Yep.
+--- 14990660
+>>14988964
+it's worth nothing there are no samples from Skourtanioti 2023 which raise some important questions considering the sudden appearance as south as Crete of steppe-rich/Balkan_BA-rich samples at the end of the bronze age precisely when Dorians are thought to have expanded in the Peloponnese and Crete
+many perhaps don't realize that in the division of Greek itself from proto-Hellenic Mycenaean is not basal to classical Greek dialects, but rather it's basal only to east Greek, west Greek split earlier; this makes sense with the evidence that Mycenaeans and later Attic-Ionians seemed to have remained relatively stable in terms of genotype = Aegean BA type
+--- 14990670
+>>14990659
+>cherrypicked styilized art
+expected nothing less given your obvious inability to counter the very words of an ancient Roman
+I'll cherrypick lily skinned Ajax, blonde haired Achilles and Menelaos and the rest all the way to the xanthokomai Hellenes mentioned by Pindar
+--- 14990682
+>>14990670
+Most ancient greeks samples are dark haired, brown eyed and intermediate skinned. It is not cherrypicking.
+--- 14990692
+>>14990682
+"intermediate skin" in the hirisplex system(which is absolutely not fail safe given the missing data typical of ancient DNA resulting in darker scores) is just your average white skin you see from Iberia to Greece
+nobody is arguing they were as pale as Irishmen, but they weren't brown walking turds like the abomination you see in the mirror either
+--- 14990703
+>>14990692
+>is just your average white skin you see from Iberia to Greece
+those guys are brown, therefore the greeks and romans were brown
+--- 14990709
+>>14990659
+that quote i think is from adamantius. a 5th ad cent hellenized jew.
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantius_(physician)
+--- 14990713
+>>14990703
+>those guys are brown
+stop projecting mr large human shaped pile of dung
+--- 14990721
+>>14990709
+no it's directly from Polemon, Adamantius merely used the former as a source and paraphrased the same thing though also expanding
+--- 14990739
+>>14990605
+the quote is from Adamantius
+that jewish guy was pretty funny, he thought ancient greeks were all red haired lmao
+--- 14990741
+>>14989666
+Med BVLL
+--- 14990748
+>>14990739
+see >>14990721
+--- 14990752
+>>14990713
+they look like arabs
+--- 14990775
+>>14990752
+that's just because you are hallucinating on third world air, it's not your fault
+funnily enough another common name for the "westisch" classification in German literature was "basic white" in the anglo one
+--- 14991059
+fucking die
+--- 14991087
+>>14991059
+>his gf left him for a shitalian
+Kek
+--- 14991106
+>>14989169
+You're not a Med though you're not even white
+--- 14991170
+>>14989169
+>>14989169
+i'd like to tear out your fucking lungs
+--- 14991183
+>>14991059
+>>14991170
+Rent free.
+--- 14991187
+>>14988843
+>All Europeans except the ones in Baltic, Britain, and Scandinavia were genetically spics in the Iron Age.
+You mean, Spanish like?
+--- 14991203
+>>14988804
+Real whites were meds but they're already muttified due to the indo-european invasion.
+--- 14991205
+>>14991170
+Why do slavoids never have a normal neck.
+also dont post kid vs boomer to make a fair comparision
+--- 14991209
+BLEED BLEED BLEED
+--- 14991242
+>>14991170
+Russian ancestry is mixed
+--- 14991252
+>>14991242
+Russians aren't pure whites
+--- 14991461
+>>14991059
+>>14991209
+So the die, bleed, get shot schizo was actually mordvix too.
+--- 14991594
+>>14991461
+No, that shizo is brown migrant from italy.
+--- 14991607
+>>14991461
+>>14991594
+He is from Argentina, not Italy
+--- 14991887
+>>14991607
+>>14991594
+Somefagging mordvix. Take your meds.
+--- 14992052
+>>14991187
+Yes, exactly.
+>>14990230
+Not in South, in the whole Europe up to Central.
+--- 14992207
+>>14990450
+Modern Italians have less ehg
+--- 14992212
+>>14990327
+>No farmnigger language,
+Basques still have.
+>But medbugs have no farmnigger religion.
+Christianity and Islam
+--- 14992223
+>>14989386
+>Romans and ancient Greeks were less yamnaya than modern Italians and Greeks, so were even less white.
+Yamnaya weren't white.
+--- 14992225
+>>14990610
+>light switch at the head level 
+>light switches are 48 inches/121 cm from the floor 
+mordlet sisters
+--- 14992250
+>>14988795 (OP)
+Nordcel snowmonkey cope thread
+--- 14992260
+>>14988806
+Hi ugly Slavic freak
+--- 14992267
+>>14992250
+>>14992260
+Darktroon. Hasn't the Kshatriya death squad tortured your family enough?
+--- 14992278
+LMAO
+--- 14992291
+>>14989661
+I can cherrypick too. Reminder that most Greco Roman statues which were painted were discovered to have brown/black hair and dark eyes.
+--- 14992310
+Med Cope thread? Med Cope thread.
+>>14992278
+Holy Cope
+--- 14992311
+>>14992223
+Steppe is what makes northern europeans different from southern """europeans""". There isn't many way outs
+--- 14992318
+>>14990670
+C O P I U M
+O
+P
+I
+U
+M
+--- 14992325
+>>14992291
+Gladiatorial slaves vs Elites
+>>14992318
+Dark plebs, light patricians
+--- 14992326
+>>14992291, >>14992318 <- this is darktroon, btw. A filthy dravidian ape.
+--- 14992333
+>>14992326
+These dudes call people with light brown hair and pale skin swarthy
+--- 14992341
+>>14990670
+You do know Homer was a poet right? Is the literal definitions are to be believed, Herakles is a black man (he's described as black bottomed), other sources name Aphrodite and Dyonisus as black haired, and Homer himself says Hades and Poseidon are black haired right? You're a retard. But what can be expected of we wuzzers.
+--- 14992346
+>>14992325
+Whatever you say, Slav(e)ic filth.
+--- 14992357
+>>14992325
+>Gladiatorial slaves
+You're an ignorant retard. One is a ATHENIAN KING, the other is believed to be a Thracian. You literally make shit up to cope with your delusions you loser.
+--- 14992360
+>>14992346, 
+>>14992357 <- darktroon. A pajeet refugee, was bullied by mutts in Michigan.
+--- 14992364
+>>14992346
+>compares a fresco from germany to a fresco from egypt.
+Uhh pajeetsisters are we getting desperate?
+--- 14992373
+>>14992346
+There's nothing to be said. You think white people with light brown hair and the same race as your poop skinned ilk. Here's your "swarthoid", bro.
+>>14992357
+>Thracian
+Northern Barbarians are brown too now
+--- 14992379
+>>14992325
+Aphrodite, a literal Goddess. Keep coping loser, you're embarassing yourself.
+--- 14992392
+>>14992379
+>Goddess
+So not real then.
+--- 14992400
+So swarthy...
+--- 14992407
+>>14988795 (OP)
+Based OP opressing the joomers, good shit.
+--- 14992408
+>>14992326
+Hasn't that dravidian ape gotten enough humiliation already? Why does he larp as a wop?
+--- 14992409
+>>14992379
+Painted by anatolian slaves in naples
+--- 14992428
+>>14992373
+>Northern Barbarians are brown too now
+Exactly, see >>14988806. All those "northern barbarians" were spic-like. 
+>>14992408
+It's her (it's a literal tranny) usual state. You rather must see how she's larping as a Germanic, I was just shocked when I saw it.
+--- 14992436
+hahahahaha
+--- 14992453
+>>14992392
+Alkibiades, a Greek. I've presented a plethora of images from the ancient world which you just cope with muh slave, then post renaissance paintings. I realized you're the mentally ill guy who spams 'farming equiment' and 'MUH DARKTROON'. Fuck off and take your meds schizo.
+--- 14992457
+>>14992453 <- still a larping dravidian ape.
+--- 14992462
+>>14988795 (OP)
+They look like modern Italians. They were White. There are some MENA samples in Imperial Roman era from slaves. Both in the Roman Republic era and after the fall of the Empire there are zero MENA samples, only European with continuity to modern day Italians.
+
+>tl;dr: Anti-white Chudcope.
+--- 14992465
+>>14992453
+Green eyes, pale skin.
+Browncel Btfo
+--- 14992471
+>>14989666
+Why do med bulls make nordicists hate them but at the same time, makes them WE WUZ? Also nice trips
+--- 14992478
+>>14990405
+Because Levantines have been raped by Greeks, Romans, Crusaders, Mongols, Caucasains etc. constantly for the last 2500 years?
+--- 14992479
+>>14992453
+No, you just post pictures of people with light brown hair and pale skin and call them swarthy. I'm not "muh darktroon" guy btw, there is more than one of us
+>>14992471
+>Why do med bulls make nordicists hate them but at the same time, makes them WE WUZ? Also nice trips
+--- 14992480
+>>14992465
+>pale skin 
+Maybe where you come from, LMAO.
+--- 14992488
+>>14989661
+Looks better without the long curls ngl.
+--- 14992491
+>>14992465
+No one is saying Mediterraneans are brown pajeets, that's just your schizo projecting. They are tawny, dark haired, Europeans. You just need to think in binaries because you have the IQ of a jogger and feel the need to WE WUZ to feel any semblance of validation.
+--- 14992495
+>>14992471 <- darktroon the dravidian ape started to samefagging.
+--- 14992499
+>>14992479
+>Posts a man with green eyes because he is literally face-blind and couldn't differentiate a Nord from an albino dravidian if both were taken to him without any contextual clues.
+--- 14992505
+>>14992499
+He posted a literal nigger, the ape he posted is nothing like European racially.
+--- 14992507
+>>14992491
+>They are tawny, dark haired
+Indians
+--- 14992510
+>>14989661
+Kek
+--- 14992513
+>>14992505
+>Niggers with green eyes
+Cool story buddy.
+The only brownskins with colored eyes you'll be able to find "naturally" are select types of Mexican and even that's strange.
+--- 14992515
+>>14992507
+Levantines and Anatolians rather: >>14988991.
+--- 14992516
+>>14992491
+>No one is saying Mediterraneans are brown pajeets
+That is precisely which poos on twitter are saying and you are supporting that.
+--- 14992525
+>>14992499
+>HAHAHA we're so swarthy MED BULL MED BULL NORDKEK
+>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CALL US SWARTHY 
+>>14992510
+You don't look like that, Pedro
+--- 14992530
+>>14992513
+Such a thing as rape babies exist.
+--- 14992531
+>>14992510
+The golden ones hair is wavy at best and even that is doubtful.
+Btw wavy hair is still a pain in the ass.
+I'm glad I didn't inherit my mom's or dad's curls.
+--- 14992532
+>>14992513
+>bbbut muh colors!!!
+Get education. He's undoutedly African morphologically.
+--- 14992538
+>>14992525
+Niggers do not have green eyes buddy I'm sorry. I have not participated in this thread prior to that post.
+I just think you should cherrypick your football players to not have green eyes.
+--- 14992539
+Reposting this image because troons ignored it
+--- 14992542
+>>14992516
+>I don't buy into nordicist headcanon and that makes me support Pajeets
+I'm sorry I'm not autistic enough to be involved in your Twitter/discord dramas, but I call a spade a spade and nordicists are retarded and as bad if not worst then Afro centrists.
+--- 14992557
+>>14992542
+You're using textbook illustrations as proof
+--- 14992559
+>>14992539
+It's been since Rome. Italic and then Germanic overlords have ruled over Levantine-Anatolian hordes.
+--- 14992562
+>>14992479
+>there is more than one of us
+Yes, you and your proxies, mordmutt
+--- 14992578
+>>14992562
+I'm the Arab-Canadian, remember?
+--- 14992581
+Mordvix, you will never be a R1b. You have no history, you have no art, you have no culture. You are a subhuman and homosexual creature twisted by delusions and historical revisionism into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
+All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back R1b mock you. Historians are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
+--- 14992596
+>>14992530
+Well of course. But that happened enough hundreds of years ago that they are their own population.
+>>14992532
+A very caucasoid type of African then. Unless you have a very obtuse definition of African morphology only you hold.
+--- 14992597
+>>14992562
+>>14992581
+Ewww the Georgian boyfriend of mordvix from his russian discord.
+Shoo shoo, this is between medmoors and us, dissapear ape
+--- 14992603
+>>14992513
+Hundreds of niggers, Jews, nafris, pajeets and even ethiopians with green eyes. Yes.
+--- 14992625
+>>14992603
+Blue eyes and blond hair too.
+--- 14992639
+>>14992625
+Way fewer
+--- 14992697
+>>14992250
+Yeah, the Roman emperors obviously weren't Nordic and didn't have platinum blond hair. Still there were emperors described as having fair hair. This should come to no surprise as it can be ascertained from Roman frescoes and written accounts that blond Italic people definitely existed. It would only make sense then that at least a few emperors would also have been naturally blond. Also, your image is not much better as it uses quotes from a juvenile history book void of sources, and a black race denier.
+--- 14992711
+>>14992695
+--- 14992738
+>>14992596
+Yes, but the simple fact that the medfag ITT is missing is the "Europeaness" of having any percentage of blondes/blue eyes in your population represent. It does not matter if it is 10% or 50% or 80% since at no point in time were Euros 100% blonde in human history, and oliveskin vs. whiteskin is even less important. 
+
+European men basically raped the entire planet, in both pre-historic and historic times. However, since blonde/blue are recessive genes, almost none of the mutt people they created have even a small percentage of blondes. So despite the fact that most native Europeans have always had darker hair/eyes, if you have occasional blondes in your population group it indicates your people are native Europeans. Not some mutt mixture like 90 IQ Levantines. The fact is that it is even more indicative of European identity than Indo-European languages which mutts also speak. And another fact missed by Euros in general is that light hair genes includes many Euros who are born with lighter features that darken with age.
+
+Even the fucking Ancient Greeks noticed this and lamented that "impure" Greek bloodlines in Egypt no longer produce the occasional blonde haired offspring.
+--- 14992744
+Swarthy Indian according to /his/
+--- 14992760
+>>14992539
+Luigi Di Maio stand out among other Italians in photos I've seen.
+--- 14992762
+>>14992738
+>Even the fucking Ancient Greeks noticed this and lamented that "impure" Greek bloodlines in Egypt no longer produce the occasional blonde haired offspring.
+where did you read that?
+--- 14992764
+>>14992697
+>From the sixth century to the end of the 19th century, historians had recognized that the Historia Augusta was a flawed and not a particularly reliable source, and since the 20th century modern scholars have tended to treat it with extreme caution.
+Oh no no no nordsisters.
+--- 14992773
+>>14988995
+big agree, also cute kots
+--- 14992788
+Schizo thread
+--- 14992791
+>>14992581
+>R1b
+>the highest percentage is in Ireland and Nigeria & Cameroon
+--- 14992795
+Bruh Dionysus be so swarthy bro frfr she be having dat light brown hair she looks my cousin (I am Indian)
+--- 14992807
+So fucking swarthy fr fr nocap
+--- 14992809
+>>14992791
+Lost Celt auxiliary legion buck breaking the bantus and creating chads
+--- 14992813
+SO SWARTHY NORDKEKS BTFO
+--- 14992821
+>>14992795
+>we wuz twinks
+--- 14992822
+>>14992813
+This nigga be kinda blond doe.. he just have dat light brown hair doe no worries fr fr
+--- 14992827
+>>14992822
+>twink nordcuck slave made for big med cock
+--- 14992835
+>>14992821
+dat nigga be so swarthy even though he looks like a sunburnt white boomer
+--- 14992836
+>>14992795
+>Women have lighter skin than men
+>This is a new revelation to you people
+Are you serious?
+--- 14992844
+Bruh angloids btfo this bitch swarthy AF
+--- 14992854
+These niggas totally don't look like anglo saxons nigga fr fr
+--- 14992860
+>>14992854
+They don't?
+Stop faceblindness posting.
+--- 14992861
+Mordvix coping about being a twink bitchsissy
+--- 14992871
+>>14992764
+>>From the sixth century to the end of the 19th century, historians had recognized that the Historia Augusta was a flawed and not a particularly reliable source, and since the 20th century modern scholars have tended to treat it with extreme caution.
+There are other, more reliable works describing Emperors as blond. e.g. The Twelve Caesars and Herodian's Roman History.
+--- 14992878
+>>14992860
+Yep look way closer to some dalit than this guy
+--- 14992882
+>>14988795 (OP)
+>hehe I will paint and draw some guys as pink, the perfect crime hehe
+--- 14992890
+>>14992861
+MedTurk breaking down towards homosexuality as he is genetically inclined
+--- 14992892
+>>14992871
+None of them are "flaventium" like the supposedly blonde Verus. Funny that the only description with an accurate translation comes from an unreliable source.
+--- 14992896
+>>14992892
+
+>>14992795
+>>14992807
+>>14992813
+>>14992821
+>>14992822
+>>14992844
+>>14992854
+So swarthy
+--- 14992903
+They should swarthy guys like this to portray Romans in movies
+--- 14992905
+>>14992795
+>>14992807
+>>14992813
+>>14992821
+>>14992822
+>>14992844
+>>14992854
+>>14992896
+It's not about swarthness though. See their faces, noses, skulls. Their major ancestors, ANF, didn't belong to such type regardless of color, this type is from their minor ancestors, WSH, who are also the major ancestors of modern Nords.
+--- 14992914
+>>14992539
+Carlos Sainz Jr. is also considerably darker than his father. It seems you are cherry picking.
+--- 14992915
+>>14992809
+BASED
+--- 14992919
+>>14992914
+Nah bruh, he be a swarthy MED BVLL
+--- 14992940
+>>14992471
+We are the same. This is now a Nord Med unity thread btw.
+--- 14992949
+>>14992940
+No way, Gonzales.
+--- 14993363
+>>14992892
+Do you deny there were blond Romans? If you don't then why are you so hostile to the idea of even just one out of the 25 emperors from Augustus to the fall of Rome were blond? Sure, most Romans, and probably most emperors had dark hair and eyes as is the case with Southern Europe today. This, however, doesn't mean that the minority with lighter features can't exell, or even become emperors or presidents/prime ministers in the modern day like Eleftherios Venizelos and Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Likewise, in Northern Europe and especially Scandinavia brown eyes are rare. Despite this, many notable Scandinavians had or have brown eyes: Carl Linnaeus, Ivar Aasen, Sven Hedin, Magnus Carlsen etc.
+>>14992949
+They look like brothers.
+--- 14993457
+>>14993363
+>look like
+Phenotype =/= genotype, see >>14992905.
+--- 14993479
+>>14993457
+Are you seriously trying to say Nordics are fucking Dravidian, I don't even know what to say to that.
+--- 14993481
+>>14992557
+I didn't post it as 'proof'. I already posted a picture with real art ranging from Mycenean Greece, to Rome, to Roman Egypt, as well as actual genetics. We can deduce the following:
+
+1. Ancient Greeks were majority EEF with low levels of Steppe. 
+2. Majority EEF populations tend to have pale skin which turns bronze/tawny in the sun, and black/brown hair. There is a minority which have blonde hair, but this isn't indicative of Steppe admixture. There were even blondes in Minoan Crete, which had negligible amounts of Steppe.
+3. Genetics, artistic depictions, and many descriptions in literature confirm this. There is no hard evidence of a "Steppe elites". Only conjecture
+4. Romans resemble modern Spaniards the most, and ancient Greeks resemble modern Italians the most. This is fact and no shit slinging by the same 2-3 schizos (the Russian aspie, the MUH DARKTROON schizo, etc.)
+5. WE WUZZING and haploautism is cringe, and mostly amerimutt nordicists, slavs, and poojeets engage in it- this is because poos are insecure about their own race and nordicists WE WUZ as literally every race on earth in order to feel superior, due to their deep seated sub Saharan tier racial autism.
+--- 14993487
+>>14988964
+>>14989088
+>>14989144
+It's 20% steppe Romans.
+--- 14993495
+>>14993481 <- still darktroon.
+--- 14993500
+>>14992949
+Is Gonzalez supposed to be an insult? Spain and the Spanish empire are a great European nation and tradition.
+--- 14993503
+>>14993500
+>Spain and the Spanish empire
+Were ruled by Germanics.
+--- 14993507
+>>14992878
+Yeah yeah.
+
+I wonder, can someone make a bot to imitate you?
+How hard would it be?
+Maybe program a thing to make it so that it says preset sentences with the trademarked vocabulary?
+--- 14993515
+>>14992507
+You are literally retarded.
+--- 14993529
+>>14988804
+Cope. All that's happening is the traitorous and inferior stock is being ejected into the lesser races. In 100 years what you'll actually have is cells of hyper-loyal white enclaves covertly extracting resources from the mullato underclass
+--- 14993531
+>>14993503
+Germanics were monkeys for centuries and dominated by literally everybody until they become the Pope's golems. Without Christianity there is no Germanics. Their women were raped and taken as slaves for centuries. For centuries, it was well seen to be an Iberian member of Roma, while Germonkeys were literal sex.slaves in brothels across the empire. So much so that prostitutes used blonde dyes to appear more attractive as it was so commonplace to have Gaul/Celtic/Germanic whores.
+--- 14993542
+>>14993531
+You have deep seated issues accepting reality.
+--- 14993550
+>>14993531 <- that's a darktroon's post.
+>>14993542
+Don't bother reading, she always lies.
+--- 14993552
+>>14993529
+Basically, Jews. Lmao nordicists are so retarded with no self awareness that they try to insult by acting like semites.
+--- 14993554
+>>14993529
+How did that work out for the shtetl niggers and the Chinese in sea?
+--- 14993555
+>>14993552 <- still the ape. Why does she try?
+--- 14993559
+>>14993542
+Please indicate what I mentioned here was false. Germanics literally only became relevant when the empire was in decadence, and after as a proxy army for the pope. And even then centuries later Germonkeys turned on them too and splintered western Christianity forever.
+--- 14993563
+>>14993552
+Mordvix made a thread on /int/ claiming the same thing.
+--- 14993565
+>>14993554
+And by the way, whites are not magic. Races that have been confined to shitty enclaves very rarely rebound to have golden ages. No matter how eugenic you claim the process might be (regardless if it actually is or not)
+--- 14993577
+spaniards are obsessed with tying themselves to germs and to their visigothic heritage
+--- 14993587
+>>14993552
+Except white people are more than capable of defending themselves. Jews cannot survive without a hostz whereas whites would be colonising the star right now if other races didn't exist
+--- 14993590
+>>14993563
+Post the link.
+--- 14993595
+>>14993565
+So then why would white fall from their pedestal if reduced people never rebound? Every non-white race is clamouring in the BILLIONS to live in white countries even as second-class citizens
+--- 14993641
+>>14993565
+Unless you believe the basque is going to restore the glory of the neolithic any day now.
+--- 14993656
+>>14993641
+Aren't Aztecs basically restoring their glory through the Mexican reconquest of America?
+--- 14993682
+>>14993656
+No, they all want to live in America with American standards and American neighbours with American values, otherwise they wouldn't be clamouring to get into America illegal. If they were actually "reclaiming the glory" of the natives they'd be storming America and seizing her lands by force to make it more like Mexico, which is exactly what they're all trying to escape
+--- 14993723
+>>14993656
+I wouldn't call modern Mexicans Aztecs in any serious sense of the word. Even if you choose to believe a mestizo (or even pure-blooded Amerindian) who speaks Spanish only, is catholic, and has only very tenuous connections with the natives at this point counts as an Aztec, that would imply that the Aztecs were never driven into tiny enclaves, given that they were never (majorly, some exceptions apply) displaced colonists or slaves during the colony.
+>>14993595
+>So then why would white fall from their pedestal if reduced people never rebound?
+People reduced to a scarce few enclaves/city-states/whatever very rarely rebound (and when they do its even rare that they reach the heights they used to). The political version of this is a rump state. That's my statement, not that reduced people never rebound, but that people who end up as tiny refugees or as a diaspora without a homeland rarely do.
+--- 14993732
+>>14993682
+>they all want to live in America with American standards and American neighbors with American values.
+They don't, they want dollars. You can pay spics pennies and it'll still be worth more than their local currency. Like Japan in a way.
+--- 14993740
+>>14993531
+>Germanics were monkeys for centuries and dominated by literally everybody
+Who were they dominated by?
+>until they become the Pope's golems.
+The pope was saved from the Lombards by the Franks who supported the Popes autonomy. This makes them golems?
+>Without Christianity there is no Germanics.
+?
+>Their women were raped and taken as slaves for centuries.
+That's sad
+>For centuries, it was well seen to be an Iberian member of Roma, while Germonkeys were literal sex.slaves in brothels across the empire.
+The fall of Rome really was a good thing.
+>So much so that prostitutes used blonde dyes to appear more attractive as it was so commonplace to have Gaul/Celtic/Germanic whores.
+Interesting, some emperors also dyed their hair blond. Are you implying Germanics are more attractive?
+--- 14993775
+>>14993732
+Mind you, spics and common people in general have very few higher ideals. I have more than once made joking comparisons between spics (all of Latam) and Germanics around the migration period and until the 700s. There are as many differences as there are similarities but it's still an interesting parallelism to make.
+--- 14993782
+>>14993775
+Also just for the record. Like in any race. there are spics with capacities for something higher (in one way or another)
+--- 14993783
+>Germanics were monkeys for centuries and dominated by literally everybody until they become the Pope's golems. Without Christianity there is no Germanics. Their women were raped and taken as slaves for centuries. For centuries, it was well seen to be an Iberian member of Roma, while Germonkeys were literal sex.slaves in brothels across the empire. So much so that prostitutes used blonde dyes to appear more attractive as it was so commonplace to have Gaul/Celtic/Germanic whores.
+--- 14993788
+>>14993577
+Not surprisingly, being a part of Faustian civilization, one wishes to get closer to the center of it.
+--- 14993791
+>>14993783
+Nah. That was darktroon so post a dravidian poojeet. Likely from Hijra caste.
+--- 14993808
+>>14993791
+Germanics were monkeys for centuries and dominated by literally everybody until they become the Pope's golems. Without Christianity there is no Germanics. Their women were raped and taken as slaves for centuries. For centuries, it was well seen to be an Iberian member of Roma, while Germonkeys were literal sex.slaves in brothels across the empire. So much so that prostitutes used blonde dyes to appear more attractive as it was so commonplace to have Gaul/Celtic/Germanic whores.
+--- 14993822
+>>14993775
+And while seeing cringy Latinx names like yonaiker, jefferson, mikelson and usmail in the records for the kings of future America would be funny it'd be still kind of sad.
+Plus I would like it better if the non-garbage naming traditions stayed. (Like Hebrew, germanic, saintly, or Roman names for example)
+--- 14993827
+>>14993808
+Yeah, she likely looks so. Can't even imagine disgust the Kshatriya death squad will feel when find her in Michigan.
+--- 14993932
+>>14993822
+Just imagine. President Mikelson of new orleans.

his/14989102.txt

@@ -12,3 +12,18 @@ Iraq 2.0. you see all those militia groups? they're fighting each other. theyll
 --- 14989116
 >>14989108
 Indeed. Maybe Turkey tries its hand unilaterally after the war inevitably fails and the U.S pulls out. Also, Russia and Lebanon would be wildcards.
+--- 14990475
+>>14989105
+You could've deleted the thread man.
+--- 14991771
+>>14990475
+You could have not bumped it.
+--- 14991966
+>>14989105
+Blessed thread
+--- 14993906
+>>14989102 (OP)
+They didn't because they were losing in Afghanistan and Iraq. The answer is obvious on what would have happened.
+--- 14993912
+>>14989102 (OP)
+Read the fucking sticky, 25 year rule.

his/14989322.txt

@@ -6,3 +6,74 @@ Do you like Taylor Marshal? I’d say he is very…le based.
 He looks like a quadroon
 --- 14989344
 Prot LARPing as a Catholic.
+--- 14989377
+Too cocky to be the kind of person I’d look up to as a spiritual leader. Maybe 16 year olds find him cool.
+--- 14989417
+Tradcaths are all divisive bastards. I’m catholic but we Christians need to stick together against a secular world order increasingly hostile to the Gospel.
+--- 14989419
+>>14989339
+He looks like Ron Perlman if Ron Perlman were a door to door bible salesman.
+--- 14989431
+Can’t tell if part Jewish or just inbred
+--- 14990662
+bump
+--- 14990686
+>>14989431
+rent free
+--- 14990733
+>>14989322 (OP)
+I dont like his head shape/ face
+--- 14990743
+>>14989339
+>>14989419
+>>14989431
+>>14990733
+wow, judging his appearance instead of his actions, how mature
+--- 14990761
+>>14990743
+What are his actions?
+--- 14990772
+>>14990761
+Teaching people worldwide about Traditional Catholicism.
+--- 14990819
+>>14989339
+>He looks like a quadroon
+Typical amerimutt
+--- 14990894
+>>14990819
+>>>/int/
+--- 14990949
+I don’t know who this is and I don’t care.
+--- 14990991
+>>14989322 (OP)
+No.
+He frequently lies about Protestantism, he's a Mary worshipper, and likes click bait shock jockism to rile up his TLM and "traditionalist" crowd.
+--- 14991024
+>>14989417
+I'm not Catholic, but there's too much I agree with and enjoy about the average Catholic's company than not. It's not even a difficult choice.
+--- 14991248
+>No.
+>He frequently lies about Protestantism, he's a Mary worshipper, and likes click bait shock jockism to rile up his TLM and "traditionalist" crowd.
+--- 14991263
+>>14991248
+>I am duped by random women in blue ancient and medieval clothing
+>She's Mary, and whatever she says, I must do
+--- 14991278
+>>14991263
+meds
+--- 14991363
+>>14989344
+>>14989417
+Agreed 100%, I'm Catholic as well and he just seems intentionally malicious. He combines Protestant ignorance and combatitive attitude with a Catholic traditional lens and it makes him and all those who praise him complete mouthbreathers. TradCaths (in the flanderized sense that many of them appear as) give a bad name to Christians everywhere and are on the same level as Muslim Dawahgandists.
+--- 14991371
+>>14991278
+>Do pharmakia witchcraft please
+--- 14993103
+>>14991248
+Why is he eating shit?
+--- 14994208
+>>14993103
+Because he was a documented coprophile
+--- 14994215
+>>14993103
+>he doesn't know

his/14989452.txt

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+-----
+--- 14989452
+Most of the provinces were third worlder for roman era standards.
+--- 14989480
+>>14989452 (OP)
+That and that beef between Bonifatius and Aetius
+--- 14989487
+Vandals ruined it
+--- 14989624
+>>14989452 (OP)
+Pretty insane to think there are countries in the 21st century with that or even lower level of GDP per capita
+--- 14989637
+>>14989624
+Pretty insane that some of those same countries have swathes of their population that live lives objectively worse than than the average roman. Imagine not having access to clean drinking water, paved roads, or any uniform semblance of governance and be jealous of the standard of living of people who lived 2000 years ago
+--- 14989790
+Imagine framing ancient history - especially RVMAN history - into judeoamerican values LMAO. the romans always called the egyptians barbarians and slaves, they hated and despised them, Augustus banned egyptian cults/priests/immigrants from Rome. Regardless of their wealth. Now read what Tacitus writes about the Germans. Yes, they were poor, but the Romans saw themselves, as they were in the beginning, in that people. The whole policy of Augustus was based on that, and that's why Mark Antony failed.
+--- 14990141
+>>14989790
+>but the Romans saw themselves, as they were in the beginning, in that people
+no they didn't
+--- 14990233
+>>14990141
+Yes they did retard
+--- 14990328
+>>14989452 (OP)
+Leaving aside the ancient gdp nonsense. No because the inflated italian gdp is decades if not centuries of tax money and when Rome was an upstart it was at poorer than Carthage, or Greece, so it could never stay together in the 100 years it took from unifying all italians to conquering them according to this logic.
+Christianism alienating the rural masses that would have been most conscripts to the army makes a much better explanation. Still tons of pagans in the countryside into the early middle ages. 
+Eastern side had a lot more christians and was much less reliant on germanics, and once the visigoths were away never again had germanic problems. More importantly it had better emperors and no coups until Zeno.
+--- 14991029
+>>14989790
+>Wealth didn't matter back then because...because... because of the rvmvn aryan spirit or something, okey?
+Yeah, sure.
+--- 14992111
+>>14989452 (OP)
+>14 AD
+So just after Caesar raped Gaul? What if things were different centuries later? 
+Also the two main West vs East civil wars were won by the western side. Ausutus and Constantine vs Antony and Licinius
+--- 14992117
+>>14992111
+Augustus*
+--- 14992230
+>>14989452 (OP)
+>14 AD
+>GDP map
+Should be banable honestly
+--- 14992442
+>>14989452 (OP)
+firstly this is a meme map
+secondly it is based on state income from taxation,
+meaning the money the state took from the people,
+tying it to per capita living is utterly asinine,
+as the average person in Egypt probably lived a far worse life than an average citizen in a +10 000 town anywhere in Spain or Gaul who had all the Roman infrastructure but also a far higher access to protein intake and much less urban squalor.
+
+Also the colors confuse your monkey brain,
+even the meme numbers show fucking swamp ass Belgium as merely 30% poorer Egypt and mere 15% poorer than the other red zones.
+--- 14992452
+>>14992442
+> even the meme numbers show fucking swamp ass Belgium as merely 30% poorer Egypt and mere 15% poorer than the other red zones.
+
+It is also 14AD, which makes it even more hilarious since it is barely over a generation from Roman conquest.
+
+But yeah, the percentage differences are meager, like comparing Germany to the Netherlands, France or Ireland and taking a laugh
+--- 14993083
+>>14990328
+romans were poorer, not roman state.
+>>14989790
+whole policy of augustus was based on civilizing snowniggers to stop them from raiding.

his/14989578.txt

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+-----
+--- 14989578
+Why would anyone watch Youtube video "essays"? They never bring anything new or profound to the table, and are usually only mouthpieces of their authors masqueraded as "analysis".
+--- 14989589
+>>14989578 (OP)
+So 4chan brings "new" and "profound" things to the table?
+--- 14989608
+>>14989589
+Of course it doesn't, but at least you can say nigger here.
+--- 14989615
+>>14989608
+How long do you think this site's got left?
+--- 14989619
+i guess at first they were a unique idea, especially if it was a subject you were interested in. but now its become "why minions the movie is woke" and its like 9 hours long
+--- 14989622
+>>14989615
+I doubt it's going anywhere. 4chan is great for venting.
+--- 14989647
+>>14989619
+Those aren't even the worse ones. It's people like "Adam Something" whose videos probably cause the largest amount of damage, since they're thinly veiled propaganda by their author. Youtube doesn't really allow people who watch them to see counter-arguments, and in turn, multiple people suddenly advocate no cars into cities because Youtube man showed pictures of American dystopias.
+--- 14989687
+>>14989578 (OP)
+normies don't have the free time this userbase has to read books. Essays are just summerization of ideas
+--- 14989858
+>>14989578 (OP)
+I think I saw a 20 hour video essay about Skyrim a few weeks back
+--- 14991090
+>>14989578 (OP)
+Very normie of me however I like the video essays about tv shows like victorious etc. I don’t care for those types of shows nor did I watch them growing up but I enjoy it anyways. I guess it’s nice to hear someone autistically rant for an hour or so
+--- 14991665
+Sometimes they're comfy, just a guy talking about something halfway interesting for 20-30 minutes. Emp Lemon ones are nice, I like the one on Dale Earnhardt. History videos get obnoxious because 85% of them are literally reading off of Wikipedia.
+--- 14991684
+I stopped watching youtube videos about history because it's so hard to find interesting ones. They're great for surface level stuff, but if you actually want to know about a topic there's no point.
+There are a few in depth videos but they're so difficult to find and you have to sift through so much crap it's not worth it.
+--- 14993460
+>>14989647
+we've been over this
+walkable cities are better, but american cities are too joggable to be walkable

his/14989595.txt

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+-----
+--- 14989595
+Genesis is compatible with evolution, however, the trick is you can't take it literally. It's all allegory. To prove this, simply forget any reference of time when reading the passages. Only look at what is being done. There are stages, and there are also stages in Earth's geological timescale along with its succeeding lifeforms. 
+
+And remember to think about what is being written down in Genesis before making any comments. It's all in there. Trust.
+--- 14989598
+>>14989595 (OP)
+No, Genesis is not compatible with evolutionism. Evolutionism is vain philosophy which is opposed to God. It is an attempt to reduce man to mere matter in motion, to deny that he is made in God's image.
+--- 14989600
+Fuck off retard
+--- 14989606
+>>14989595 (OP)
+>if I interpret the book the way I want it works!
+--- 14989609
+>>14989595 (OP)
+Charles Darwin was a Christian.
+Francis Bacon who made the inductive scientific method was a Christian.
+The one who formulated the big bang theory was a Catholic.
+--- 14989614
+>>14989609
+So what
+--- 14989616
+Historical literature is really interesting, but this is obsession and religion, often forced on people.
+--- 14989621
+>>14989606
+--- 14989628
+>>14989598
+Look up theistic evolution
+--- 14989636
+>>14989595 (OP)
+Evolution has never been proven nor reproduced it is pretty much atheist mythology.
+--- 14989639
+>>14989609
+Okay but did they write at all on their specific opinions of the reality of Genesis? That is the topic of this thread.
+--- 14989654
+>>14989606
+I mean, wouldn't you think the Author of this book who came to this earth speaking in parables not leave little parables throughout His own book? Stuff that can be read one way, but, it can be seen in another way despite how it's written.
+--- 14989663
+>plants coming before sea creatures
+no
+--- 14989712
+>>14989595 (OP)
+Problem is, if you do that, then you could say I take whatever passage I want and interpret it the way I want.
+I can justify the old testament applying that way too and go kill and kill homosexuals.
+
+Just accept that Evolution Theory is completely retarded.
+--- 14989713
+>>14989609
+>They we’re a Christian 
+In name only. They followed the deceptions of Satan instead of trusting the Bible
+--- 14989739
+>>14989609
+Darwin started as a Christian but became agnostic, at most he was philosophically some kind of skeptical theist. He explicitly denied divine revelation and stopped attending church.
+--- 14989765
+>>14989595 (OP)
+>Genesis is compatible with evolution, however, the trick is you can't take it literally.
+everything is compatible if you don't take it literally. It just sounds like you are making excuses for the fallibility of the bible.
+--- 14990013
+>>14989654
+>I mean, wouldn't you think the Author of this book who came to this earth speaking in parables not leave little parables throughout His own book? Stuff that can be read one way, but, it can be seen in another way despite how it's written.
+
+Especially if the verse, chapter, or book correlates or corresponds with what's going on in your life or immediate surroundings. God is trying to tell you something.
+--- 14990064
+>>14989595 (OP)
+>Genesis is compatible with evolution, however, the trick is you can't take it literally. It's all allegory. To prove this, simply forget any reference of time when reading the passages
+I’m gonna stop you right there, you can make any fictional book true if you just pretend it doesn’t mean what it says
+Do you not realize you’re doing this?
+--- 14990400
+>>14989739
+You can stop attending church and still practice at home retard. He died loving Christ
+--- 14990470
+>>14990400
+Well first, wrong. 
+Second, secularism doesn’t work like a religion with theologians and priesthoods. Even Charles Darwin being religious wouldn’t make that religion true. I was baffled at your angle until I realized you people fundamentally don’t understand how truth, facts and reality work. If a Buddhist came up with the unified theory of physics that would not make Buddhism true.
+--- 14990574
+>>14990470
+You're not a true follower of Darwin (ﷺ)
+--- 14990588
+>>14989595 (OP)
+>oy vey, stop believing in genesis goyim
+>there was no fall into sin
+>gorrillions of years
+>we're heckin space dust
+>you share a common ancestry with earth worms
+>feminism is just about equality
+>communism is good on paper
+>morality is relative
+>nobody's coming to take your guns
+>let me transition your son and daughter with your tax dollars and lock you away if you disagree
+--- 14990638
+If you think God works by the same rules as ordinary human's then literal interpretations of the Bible are worthless to providing understanding. Our ability to fulfill a word as its meant in our tangible World compared to the power God has to fulfill that meaning of that word are completely separate. It has nothing to do with interpretation. I don't see why people believe God would be bound by the limitations that humanity has.
+--- 14990679
+>>14990588
+>stop believing in genesis 
+>there was no fall into sin
+>gorrillions of years
+>we're heckin space dust
+>you share a common ancestry with earth worms
+All correct. Everything after is political culture war bullshit. If you think conservatism can’t survive in light of a naturalistic explanation of our world then that’s an indictment of your conservatism, not the truth about nature.
+--- 14990768
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3_MhrAVQTA [Embed]
+--- 14990782
+>>14989609
+Charles Darwin left Christianity and self-identified as an agnostic.
+--- 14990805
+>>14990679
+>All correct. 
+Big bang, life from nonlife, evolutionism, gorillions of years have all been scienticially proven false or impossible. There is still no real explanation for the formation of stars either, it's all just probabilities and theory and fantasy and lashing out to attack people who don't agree like you're doing now because you're an NPC retard.
+
+Naturalism is a retarded religion for easily controlled NPCs like you, and you can't even explain our existence or anything, so you just attack and lash out and misdirect and go off on irrelevant tangents. Coward.
+
+>Everything after is political culture war bullshit.
+They're not, you're just a Godless naive retard who knows and understand nothing.
+--- 14990817
+>>14990782
+He lost faith in his own theory at the end of his life. 
+
+We're still missing all those predicted fossils he said would show up, billions of missing links all over the mythical "tree of life" those evolutionist schizos always make, but people go on believing because the alternative is special creation and that is "unthinkable" (as they put it) to the hedonist gaytheists who literally pushed for fag marriage so gays could adopt and rape kids and they claim that's equal to a normal family. 
+
+Gaytheist idiots actually claim this is "culture war" and not just basic plain truths about God's creation and His designed order which you reject because you love sodomizing yourself or enabling sodomites.
+--- 14990945
+>>14990805
+Watching you rage this hard while you don’t even get how stars form is hysterical. Just thoroughly a superstitious peasant lost in the modern world.
+--- 14990984
+>>14989595 (OP)
+>Plants existed before the Sun
+top fucking kek
+--- 14990987
+>>14990817
+No, he didn't. Even Answers in Genesis denies that story.
+--- 14991000
+>>14990984
+Yes but you see anon, you need to ignore all the part where the Bible is wrong if you want to keep believing the Bible is true.
+And no, I as a Christian am not capable of understanding the actual logical reaction to the Bible being wildly incorrect.
+--- 14991005
+>>14989663
+Did the sea creatures not eat algae? Are algae not considered primitive plants?
+
+>>14990984
+Day or sunlight came before algae..
+--- 14991018
+>>14990817
+Jews Niggers, and Muslims fucking suck. I hope a baby literally eats them all. They literally don't see the fussiness of a baby, and are so god damn animalistic they in engage in agonistic behavior.
+Anyone caught walking is shot dead.
+--- 14991032
+>>14991005
+It’s on no one but Christians to explain why their Bible doesn’t make logical sense to our vastly expanded understanding of reality 
+If your religion was true this problem literally would not exist. Scientific exploration would confirm genesis in whole, not refute it. 
+I’m not saying there isn’t a master and creator of the universe, but it sure as hell isn’t any of the characters in the Bible
+--- 14991068
+>>14991032
+All you have to do is account for literally every lifeform and you won't have this issue.
+--- 14991123
+Even Dr. Michael Brown (who is a Messianic Jew) could actually go both ways with it, via theistic evolution or just the Creation story taken literally.
+--- 14991196
+>>14989595 (OP)
+First of all Genesis doesn't give out all the details of creation. There are gaps in the timeline of events in Genesis that can factor in evolution.
+Second, the narrative in the early parts of Genesis was most likely a criticism of the prevailing creation myths in the Ancient Near East, maybe even suggesting that the Genesis creation is the actual creation narrative that all of the ANE creation myths were based on.
+--- 14991200
+>>14990805
+>Big bang, life from nonlife, evolutionism, gorillions of years have all been scienticially proven false or impossible.
+Source?
+--- 14991216
+>>14991005
+>Day or sunlight came before algae..
+Yeah, it did. So why does the Bible say plants predate the Sun?
+--- 14991230
+>>14991196
+There aren't any gaps. The first day is followed by the second day and so on. And if you want to suggest gaps, you have to contend with plants surviving an extended period of time without sunlight.
+--- 14991425
+>>14991230
+There may not be gaps, but Genesis 1 is far from the larger picture of creation. Gen. 1 is and always will be a narrative of God establishing order in the universe rather than him creating everything in 7 days, otherwise God's priority in creating light before the Sun would make no sense.
+--- 14991440
+>>14989595 (OP)
+Well why couldn't we have been planted here by God's will via aliens introducing us here?
+--- 14991452
+>On the first day God seperated the light from the darkness
+>On the first day God created the fucking sun
+>On the first day there was a unit of time called a day before the sun even existed
+--- 14991470
+>>14991452
+God doesn’t create the sun until day 3 lol
+--- 14991501
+>>14989628
+Read the bible
+--- 14991506
+>>14989595 (OP)
+People who take genesis literally are loosing on the true wisdom of that story. 
+
+It’s important to remember that genesis is not only what happened fist but what happens first. It’s still happening all the time. Whenever you encounter any situation you forcefully have to go through the patterns described in Genesis.
+
+For example: you want to make a cup of coffee. First the idea appears in your mind but has no body. No structure. Then you collapse the multiplicity of options into one; decaf, cappuccino, size, sugar etc; now there’s one possible cup. Then you take matter (cup, water, cooffee) and bring it into existence by pulling the divine from above (God animating Adam). Now the cup of coffee exists. It won’t be exactly like the original idea but you don’t trow it away. The same way God didn’t kill Adam and Eve. You drink the coffee accepting its imperfections and you add effort for next time (you sacrifice to the ideal cup your time, attention, etc.) every time you make a cup of coffee you enter a liturgical pattern of creation; of interacting with reality in a cohesive manner.
+--- 14991512
+>>14991425
+In the older stories God had to wrestle a big dragon in the ocean of chaos to bring order. Most of the elements like the garden and the fruit are also in the old Greek myths.
+--- 14991533
+>>14991470
+So what is le seperate light from dark supposed to fucking mean?
+--- 14991605
+>>14991506
+This is like a university course in post hoc rationalization
+--- 14991613
+>>14989636
+This
+Trust God's word, not fallen men
+--- 14991627
+>>14991512
+The concept of establishing order in creation myths has been there since the earliest days of literature. I don't see where the garden and the fruit in Greek creation comment fitting in anywhere in what I said though. Sure, they share similar elements, but one is from a culturally primitive tradition similar to Sumer and Uruk, and the other a newer civilization from the end of the Bronze Age period. It would be more likely that the Biblical or the ANE creation myths were the basis for the Greek creation myths.
+
+>>14991533
+Order. God separates the two and gives function for the light and dark to exist.
+--- 14991628
+>>14991533
+Apparently they thought god lights up the sky during the day and the visible celestial objects are just extra lights in the sky. 
+We know so much about reality now that it barely makes sense to read how they thought things worked.
+--- 14991656
+>>14991605
+You're an idiot. Even from a completely secular perspective the Bible still reflects a big part of the story of how human thought as we know it developed.
+The idea of logical causal chains emerged from these kinds of symbolic representations of patterns everyone intuitively recognized. It was refined over time until clear enough to be formalized.
+>>14991627
+>fitting in anywhere in what I said
+Point is the symbolism being used is part of a wider and older tradition. It's part of a conversation we can barely scratch the surface of.
+>It would be more likely that the Biblical or the ANE creation myths were the basis for the Greek creation myths.
+I assume both come from older myths. The more universal elements get copied across cultures. Academia was always more international than cultures in general, people really interested in learning are hungry for it and seek it out, they don't stay in their bubbles.
+--- 14991671
+>>14991605
+Try not to engage with reality in that manner and see what happens.
+--- 14991706
+>>14991452
+>>On the first day there was a unit of time called a day before the sun even existed
+That's not a problem. You can still use "day" to mean a 24 hour period even if the Sun didn't exist yet. But the narrative does have numerous problems.
+--- 14991724
+>>14991706
+That makes no sense as the jews who wrote this nonsense had no clue what a 24 hour period even was
+--- 14991732
+>>14991706
+The day thing is supposed to align with esoteric numerological ideas that the human week is based on. The established norm globally was a base 6 counting system so "completion" was 6. 7 is completion + the additional holy element we can never account for.
+--- 14991741
+>>14991732
+The week is based on the historical creation week, which is historical fact because the bible is true
+--- 14991750
+>>14991741
+The pattern that makes 6 special is a part of fundamental reality, not derived from anything else so it's defined by God. The 7 day week reflects something non-physical and divine.
+--- 14991767
+666 is the number of completion on all planes. The height of human arrogance is thinking the complete system is possible or desirable.
+--- 14991782
+>>14991656
+It’s post-hoc rationalization anon.
+--- 14991831
+>>14991782
+To sincerely interpret any text you have to explore many alternatives. When coherent information emerges that's a good clue you're on the right track. Dismissing an interpretation because there's a chance you might be projecting to some degree is braindead, it will always be happening to some degree and it's even part of what makes you able to relate to the human writer of the text. It's not a good reason to stop exploring and testing.
+You retards don't offer any alternative history of the development of thinking either. Everything you say implies you think human thinking just is, it doesn't come from anywhere and doesn't go anywhere, it's just a static thing that popped into existence 200k years ago with fully formed ideas of formal logic and every complex abstract concept magically implanted into every human.
+--- 14991874
+Evolution is completely incompatible with any form of religion and was immediately recognized as such when that drivel was first being churned out. The notion that the eternal, divine form can simply emerge from a more rudimentary creature is not something that can be reconciled with any worldview save materialism.
+--- 14991888
+>>14991874
+According to the oldest Christian churches the "image of God" is the gift of subjective experience, a phenomena no materialistic model has or ever can describe.
+--- 14991913
+>>14991216
+It doesn't say plants predate the Sun, the Sun is in 1:3-5 when it mentions the first Day.
+--- 14991961
+>>14989598
+>It is an attempt to reduce man to mere matter in motion
+But that's true though. What do you think you are if not for matter in motion?
+
+>But explain the soul then
+First, prove that we *have* one, and if you're talking about consciousness: if there was no brain, would we be conscious? No? Then consciousness has matter somewhere upstream of its existence.
+--- 14992039
+>>14992004
+God created elementary particles aka light on the first day, he made gaseous substances (hydrogen, helium, etc) aka the firmament on the second day, he made stardust aka dry ground on the third day, he made celestial bodies on the fourth day, last but not least he created all lifeforms on the following days.
+
+ftfm
+--- 14992053
+>>14991032
+>obliviously foolish atheist felating himself again
+Romans 1:22 always makes me laugh
+--- 14992070
+>>14992053
+>foolish atheist
+Matthew 5:22
+--- 14992332
+>>14991961
+>But that's true though
+Why is roast beef telling me we're matter in motion? I think it's because you know better
+>First, prove that we *have* one
+Again, why is a robot asking me to prove it has a soul? You know very well what you are, you're lying to yourself
+--- 14992571
+>>14992332
+If you want to have an adult debate instead of believing in imaginary friends, you might just wnat to share what's going on in your head there jimmy. You don't want people to think you're crazy now, do you? They might send you to crazy people jail if you can't explain what's going on in your head.
+--- 14992593
+>>14992571
+I don't particularly care what delusional sinners think
+--- 14992602
+>>14992070
+>nooo don't call me a fool even though scripture explicitly calls atheistrannies fools
+Psalms 14:1 and dilate and kys lol
+--- 14992613
+>>14989595 (OP)
+https://imgur.com/a/KS8zlUy
+is this an allegory?
+--- 14992621
+>>14992613
+Atheists posting gay porn to own the heckin Christcucks
+--- 14992636
+>>14992602
+That doesn't tell you to call others fools, cuck. But don't let me interrupt you as you send yourself to hell. Do continue :^)
+--- 14992644
+>>14992593
+Then why are you talking to me?
+--- 14992649
+>>14992636
+>you can't recite scripture that triggers me because it's offensive or something
+Don't ever read what Christ said if that's really how you feel, retarded nigger.
+--- 14992660
+>>14992621
+christcucks posting porn of themselves to own themselves
+https://imgur.com/a/KS8zlUy
+--- 14992667
+>>14992644
+To try to wake you up. Get up, dry bones
+--- 14992669
+>>14989595 (OP)
+God does talk to us in baby talk from time to time, the Bible says so. It's likely this metaphor was a way of explaining complex ideas to ancient people that wouldn't understand it otherwise.
+--- 14992679
+>>14992667
+So you do care about what I think. I think in a different manner than yours, and you want me to think like you. You can't 'not care' about what I think and be upset about how I think at the same time.
+--- 14992689
+>>14992679
+>So you do care about what I think
+No
+>I think in a different manner than yours, and you want me to think like you
+That's the whole point, you've been thinking like me the whole time. Wake up, dry bones
+--- 14992698
+>>14992649
+You didn't "recite scripture", you just called a guy a fool. You will burn in hell forever.
+--- 14992709
+>>14992698
+It is no sin to tell the truth
+--- 14992722
+>>14992689
+I'm out. Thanks for the talk.
+--- 14992731
+>>14992709
+Matthew 5:22
+Enjoy hell, cuck.
+--- 14992883
+>>14989609
+Darwin was agnostic anon.
+--- 14993142
+>>14991005
+>Did the sea creatures not eat algae?
+not necessarily, no
+in the beginning* most unicellular life was autotrophic and some ate those
+defining them as algae would be wrong but to be fair defining them as "creatures" is also difficult past a certain point
+*as far as we currently know
+>Are algae not considered primitive plants?
+they are plants yes, but primitive is relative
+they photosynthesize and produce oxygen which already puts them a few evolutionary generations past other forms of life

his/14989764.txt

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+-----
+--- 14989764
+>IS - IS THAT A NEGRO USING THE WHITE WATER FOUNTAIN? I'M GOING INSAAAANE
+--- 14989772
+>I am entitled to the things you've created for your own people
+>no I will not improve the black drinking fountain, give me free shit now
+The sort of mentality jews enable and jews founded the NAACP to agitate and foment riots and unrest
+--- 14989777
+>>14989772
+>Force negros to be poor
+>Every time the try to improve themselves on their own lynch them and burn their neighborhood cause you are scared of a negro having more money than you
+>Negros give up cause they'll never be allowed to advance
+>Bitch about negros not doing anything to stop being poor
+Yankee inbreeding is indeed a very powerful mind corrupter
+--- 14989778
+>>14989772
+>no I will not improve the black drinking fountain, give me free shit now
+Doesn't make any sense since it's whoever owns the property providing good water fountains for whites and bad ones for blacks.
+--- 14989781
+>>14989764 (OP)
+races shouldn't mix. its crazy that only 100 years America was so based to institute segregation
+--- 14989785
+>>14989764 (OP)
+Just wait until you find out what eurospics did with the cagots, fagot
+--- 14989792
+>IS...IS THAT A NEGRO NOT BEING GIVEN ACCESS TO WHITE PEOPLE?!?! I'M GOING INSAAAANE!
+--- 14989793
+>>14989785
+That one is a really perplexing case. What the fuck were Cagots?? Should I hate them?
+--- 14989794
+>>14989764 (OP)
+well, white didn't actually go insane since they would have beaten the dindu to death instead. and rightfully so.
+--- 14989798
+>>14989777
+Please list the times negros were lynched and their neighborhoods burned because they built a nicer water fountain.
+>>14989778
+And the negro property owners didn't provide good water fountains for the negros, because ???
+--- 14989802
+>>14989798
+>And the negro property owners didn't provide good water fountains for the negros, because ???
+Where was this stated? The point is that if you are, say, a black US serviceman on a military base, or a black US citizen in the downtown area of your city, you have to use a shitty water fountain because of the colour of your skin. Imagine how much you'd seethe if Jews put white people through that kind of daily humiliation ritual.
+--- 14989806
+>>14989802
+>colour of your skin
+and cranial bone shape
+and hematic values
+and average IQ 
+and genotype
+--- 14989808
+70 years of constant psyops to destroy society 
+What exactly is wrong with segregation? Before all the psyops through media people were just fine with it.
+--- 14989812
+>>14989806
+And? What relevance does that have? You are the ones who brought black people to your country in chains, a country you specifically established on liberal principles. If you really wanted humane segregation, you could have made an earnest effort, instead of forcing black people to eat shit with little daily humiliations. Spiteful rituals.
+--- 14989813
+>>14989808
+segregation is the only way to achieve true diversity
+--- 14989820
+>>14989802
+
+So don't join the army and use the water fountains in a black business who can build their own water fountains however they like.
+--- 14989822
+>>14989812
+I didn't do it and neither did my ancestors. But of course anyone who isn't a nigger has wronged you.
+--- 14989825
+>>14989812
+(i am not the guy you were talking about and i am not american) Yes, i think slavery, or rather, bringing nogs into your own homeland, has been a crime against the white people of America and they have been punished for this. So i agree with you on that. They could have partially redeemed themselves through segregation but they failed even at that. America has been a morally bankrupt country for centuries now. 
+As for the humiliation, it was not for the sake of it. Normal whites are genuinely repulsed by nogs and they unbearable stench.
+--- 14989828
+>>14989820
+>So don't join the army
+During the Vietnam era they were conscripted at a higher rate than whites. Also now you are holding American patriotism against blacks?
+>use the water fountains in a black business who can build their own water fountains however they like
+Why build purposely shitty ones for blacks though?
+>>14989822
+I'm not black. I don't believe in white guilt either. But this guy is defending segregation and talking about collective responsibility of blacks
+--- 14989833
+>>14989802
+>Imagine how much you'd seethe if Jews put white people through that kind of daily humiliation ritual.
+it says in the talmud that goyim aren't allowed to eat with a jew or use the same cutlery
+--- 14989834
+>>14989833
+OK? And how often do Jews actually enforce that?
+--- 14989838
+>>14989828
+There is nothing wrong with segregation if they aren't treated like subhumans.
+--- 14989841
+>>14989825
+...As for the Europeans, that's different. Germany never set foot in fucking Ghana or Ivory Coast. and yet, they are full of subsaharan trash over there. Same as scandinavians in the middle east. Or italians in Pakistan. Or spaniards and irish in China. Native Europeans are merely victims of this immigrationist fury enforced on them.
+--- 14989846
+>>14989828
+
+Why should whites accommodate water fountains for blacks if blacks are incapable of building their own fountains?
+--- 14989853
+>>14989846
+There is no evidence for the assertion that blacks couldn't and didn't build their own water fountains. But the government is not representative of just whites, it is meant to serve all US citizens. So why is it providing substandard services to its black citizens? Even those who are serving it in a military capacity?
+--- 14989865
+>>14989853
+There were no water fountains built by blacks before they met the whites.
+--- 14989872
+>>14989865
+And there was no water fountain built by whites before they met the Romans.
+--- 14989874
+>>14989853
+
+So if blacks had water fountains that are just as good as the ones whites had, why are you kvetching? The military had be desegregated since 1948.
+--- 14989880
+>>14989872
+we wuz
+--- 14989882
+>>14989872
+But the Romans were white, you silly Tyrone. Yeah, i know you will just repeat out of your massive cope "le italians are not white" meme. But that's not what genetic analysis says.
+--- 14989884
+>>14989874
+You cannot just build water fountains in public spaces. The government has to approve it. You are also ignoring the fact that black people did not own as much property. And they couldn't just earn enough money to do so because they were prevented from working!!!
+--- 14989886
+>>14989853
+Blacks are more violent and less intelligent that whites on average. Whites and blacks independent of multiracial nations are observably unequal. Every metric of civilization gets progressively worse the more of them you have. If you had 2 identical cities but one is 70% black but the other one is only 10% black we all know which city would be better to live in. We're intentionally sandbagging ourselves by having to live with a people that will never get right. Saying this simple truth will get you unpersoned and fired from your job too. The Great Replacement and transgenderism will be looked back on as inexplicable barbarism. Historians will struggle to understand why a country spent so much effort to get a weaker working class and inverting traditional moral values.
+--- 14989893
+>>14989886
+And petty acts of small segregation helped with this how? They just made blacks resentful. The presence of black people in America is not a conspiracy. They were brought by whitoids.
+--- 14989906
+>>14989884
+The worst part about slavery is that it brought blacks to America. We would be much better off without them. Ironically they have it better off than their non enslaved counterparts in West Africa. Whites and blacks should live in separate civilizations though. I support black nationalism and reparations through giving each black person 250,000 dollars and a trip back to their own society. That initial cost would pay for itself several times over throughout the next century.
+--- 14989909
+>>14989764 (OP)
+>>14989772
+>>14989777
+>>14989778
+>>14989781
+>>14989785
+>>14989792
+>>14989793
+>>14989794
+>>14989798
+>>14989802
+>>14989806
+>>14989808
+>>14989812
+>>14989813
+>>14989820
+>>14989822
+>>14989825
+>>14989828
+>>14989833
+>>14989834
+>>14989838
+>>14989841
+>>14989846
+>>14989853
+>>14989865
+>>14989872
+>>14989874
+>>14989880
+>>14989882
+>>14989884
+>>14989886
+>>14989893
+>>14989906
+I bet you don't know how to build a fountain yourself, alone.
+--- 14989914
+>>14989909
+I am not black. I am Australian.
+--- 14989918
+>>14989884
+
+>a minority doesn't own as much property
+
+Fascinating
+--- 14989919
+>>14989918
+They owned disproportionately less.
+--- 14989922
+>>14989909
+
+>there has not been a single black plumber, ever, anywhere in history
+--- 14989926
+>>14989914
+an Abo worser than a Bantu
+--- 14989928
+>>14989922
+>strawmanning this hard
+>just be a plumber
+based retard
+--- 14989929
+>>14989906
+they will take the money can come back after 2 weeks. or they'll go to Europe as their fellow blacks are doing right now. The situation is unfixable, period. I curse everyday the day the first ship of negroes docked.
+--- 14989932
+>>14989893
+Linguistic and religious conflict happened in diverse regions of Switzerland. How did they fix it? They separated from each other. Seems like in America the fences weren't high enough if they're experiencing petty acts of small segregation, should have been large acts of big segregation.
+--- 14989939
+>>14989893
+Have you ever been in a multiracial school or workplace? Blacks and other minorities tend to self segregate because people generally like being with their own tribe. Whites would be demonized for this behavior and we've been brow beaten into having out-group preference but nevertheless red birds fly with redbirds and bluebirds fly with bluebirds. In majority black cities you find enclaves of white bars, diners and so on. Is that racism? I don't think so. Multiracial cities score lower on just about every metric when compared to ethnically homogenous ones. Whites and Jews brough slaves over on the North Atlantic Slave trade so what now? Segregation would at least cut down on interracial strife. Blacks need whites to parasitize though because they aren't civilization builders. Who built the schools and roads and farms in South Africa? Blacks show up after white people build civilization even in areas where they weren't brought in as slaves. Immigration is almost always a one way street from brown countries to white countries.
+--- 14989942
+>>14989928
+
+Yes? If you want a better fountain so desperately, learn how to be a plumber?
+--- 14989946
+>>14989942
+... or drink from the white people's ones
+--- 14989971
+>>14989939
+I know all that. I'm not a multiculturalist. It doesn't change how pathetic and sadistic America's segregation policy was. Also there seem to be strong exceptions to the claim that blacks aren't civilisaiton builders, namely Ethiopia. And Botswana and Gabon don't seem to be doing too poorly.
+--- 14989975
+>>14989806
+>>14989939
+.
+--- 14989977
+>>14989946
+
+Why should you be given access to what white people built?
+--- 14989985
+>>14989977
+Why should straights be given access to what gay people built?
+--- 14990022
+>>14989977
+i was being ironic. of course they shouldn't. imagine drinking the same water as a black.
+--- 14990027
+>>14989985
+>gayness is a race/ethnicity
+hahahahahahahahaha
+--- 14990030
+>>14990027
+Yes.
+--- 14990040
+>>14989985
+you see that pic? a dindu will never be able to achieve it.
+--- 14990050
+>>14990040
+What do you think of this ancient Ethiopian Bible anon?>
+--- 14990067
+>>14990050
+literally nothing special, embarrassing even comparing that to Michelangelo or Bernini. It was made by syrian monks. Written in greek. And this is how they portrayed people and saints. Sorry you blacks and MENAs are just not good enough to play in the european league. It's crystal clear to anyone having eyes.
+--- 14990149
+Goddamn I need to leave this cesspool of a site. Not because you are racist. Not because you are all faggots. And not because you are pedophiles. But because y'all are astronomically retarded to the point where my brain is committing ritual suicide one neuron at a time. You know that way to fight wokisms is not by adopting the polar opposite right? Good ancestors why am I even trying to argue with the Great wall of planned obsolescence
+--- 14990177
+>>14990067
+But you worship a MENA man anon. You how to arabs everyday
+--- 14990188
+>>14990067
+You know there's plenty of ancient Ethiopian Bibles written in Amharic and portraying black apostles right? Just not that particular one.
+--- 14990200
+>>14989798
+Blacks in Birmingham who tried to move into the more affluent areas got their houses bombed.
+--- 14990215
+>>14989939
+>Segregation would at least cut down on interracial strife
+Of course. Who could forget the peaceful race relations of the 1890s.
+--- 14990227
+>>14990188
+“black apostles” they are not black kek. if the average amharic speaking ethiopian is 50% eurasian then they are not black. the apostles displayed here are mixed race. where do you think semitic speaking ethiopians got their language from? the semites they mixed with. they were speaking a cushitic language before this mixing.
+--- 14990275
+>>14990227
+You will repeat this cope as many times as you wish, you know deep down it's still cope. Your average Ethiopian would have to drink from the black fountain.
+--- 14990292
+>>14990275
+How is it cope? Their genetics won’t change. African Americans literally complain about ethiopians subverting the affirmative action program by identifying as black when many of them do not look black and stealing stops from actual black students.
+--- 14990431
+>>14990149
+>y'all
+--- 14990444
+>>14989939
+>Who built the schools and roads and farms in South Africa? 
+Black labor.
+
+>Blacks show up after white people build civilization 
+Blacks showed up from where? Whites weren't in South Africa 2,000 years ago.
+
+>even in areas where they weren't brought in as slaves. 
+The only place that had slavery was the Dutch Cape Colony.
+--- 14990536
+>>14990149
+You lost the plot the moment you started to seethe about muh hecking wokeism
+--- 14990541
+>>14989764 (OP)
+>>IS - IS THAT A NEGRO USING THE WHITE WATER FOUNTAIN? I'M GOING INSAAAANE
+--- 14990558
+>>14989777
+Where SHOULD blacks be? if there were no racism, where would they be economically? 
+the same as Whites? Why?
+--- 14990566
+>>14989975
+>hair color is a race
+--- 14990577
+>>14990227
+>>14990275
+>>14990292
+haha yea, 50% Eurasian = not black, now lets see the DNA results for afro americans
+--- 14990581
+>>14990541
+based
+--- 14991820
+>>14990577
+>they're not le niggers!
+>still treats them like niggers
+Meaningless babble
+--- 14991830
+>>14990577
+the avg AA is 20% white. the average semitic speaking habesha is 50% eurasian. anyone can see the difference. even AAs themselves see the difference and don’t want habeshas using affirmative action. do you disagree with AAs?
+--- 14991852
+>>14989764 (OP)
+>IS - IS THAT A NEGRO USING THE WHITE WATER FOUNTAIN? I'M GOING INSAAAANE
+--- 14991860
+>>14989764 (OP)
+>nigger spits his chewing gum into the fountain then blows his nose into it
+
+Fuck outta here raciss whyte boi
+--- 14992653
+>>14989764 (OP)
+What if a private business wants to provide drinking water to all people regardless of race? Would that be allowed or is he legally required to have "whites only" and "blacks only" fountains?
+--- 14992771
+>>14991830
+>ethiopians are white now
+--- 14992792
+>>14992653
+High risk of getting set on fire by an angry mob
+--- 14992868
+>>14989772
+If it was a private place the the owner should be allowed to say who drinks from it, but many of this were public parks paid for by the state therefore they should have never been segregated, jim crow laws extended far beyond private places. With all of that said it seems incredibly petty to restrict who can drink from a freaking water fountain , public or otherwise.
+--- 14994337
+>>14989764 (OP)
+It's GEM
+--- 14994415
+>>14992868
+Why shouldn't private businesses be able to discriminate by race?
+--- 14994440
+>>14994415
+I just literally said they should be able to but that public establishment (such as parks which are government mamaged) should not be able to. Like I said regardless if the situation it seems stupid to limit who can use a water fountain, even if the owner can it seems dumb to restrict it.
+--- 14994459
+>>14989764 (OP)
+Yesterday the were drinking from the whites only fountain. Today they are burning down cities. Slippery slope is not a fallacy and anyone who says that it is either has shit for brains or is a lying worm.
+--- 14994470
+>>14989764 (OP)
+Jim Crow was petty and vile, but -- as with the ban on faggot marriage and disapproval of faggot everything else -- once it was gone, you see what it was intended to prevent.
+--- 14994477
+>>14994470
+Traditions are the solutions to problems we don't remember.
+--- 14994821
+>>14989798
+Tulsa Massacre.

his/14989810.txt

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+-----
+--- 14989810
+So what is the final verdict over this people? The actuall last survivors of the proud scythian people, or just a bunch of Caucasoids LARPers that somehow took a iranic language?
+
+I want the opinion of the learned scholars of /his/ over this subject.
+--- 14989814
+>>14989810 (OP)
+they call themselves aryan at least, but imo, the actual scythians are the udmurts, mostly cause of the red hair
+--- 14989848
+>>14989814
+>"In the course of history, Russian-speakers have referred to them as Chud Otyatskaya (чyдь oтяцкaя)"
+>Chud
+Kek, really the ideal /his/ tribe
+--- 14989867
+>>14989814
+>an uralic ethnic group from the urals with y dna N1c is ackshually this indo-iranian ethnic group
+>why?
+>muh red hair
+--- 14989871
+>>14989867
+>>why?
+>>muh red hair
+exactly
+--- 14989873
+>>14989814
+>the actual scythians are the uralics
+--- 14989875
+Confused georgians
+--- 14989878
+Caucasians. They aren't Scythian genetically. I don't think even their paternal lines are Scythian. Aren't they mostly J2 or something?
+--- 14989879
+>>14989873
+there are no other high concentration reda hair population near the original location of historic scythian, so that's why
+>
+>
+>
+sad
+--- 14989887
+>>14989879
+>different ancestry
+>different language
+>different Y-DNA
+>bro, they are Scythians
+Yes, this is the high level of discourse I expected from /his/.
+--- 14989890
+>>14989887
+ok, find me some other red haired population near the historic area of scythians
+--- 14989894
+>>14989890
+Scythians were mostly blond or brown haired.
+--- 14989895
+>>14989814
+Most scythians were brown and black haired
+--- 14989896
+>>14989894
+>>14989895
+not according to the soruces compiled by wikipedia
+--- 14989897
+>>14989890
+ok, find me evidence Udmurts spoke Indo-European at any point
+--- 14989898
+>>14989810 (OP)
+>The actuall last survivors of the proud scythian people
+No, there are no survivors of the Scythians. Even if they were genetic remnants they would still not be Scythians.
+--- 14989902
+>>14989896
+Ancient people called brown hair red.
+--- 14989903
+>>14989897
+I don't need to, a population can change their language, easily
+--- 14989905
+>>14989902
+>source: my asshole
+--- 14989907
+>>14989903
+And their ancestry, and their Y-DNA.
+--- 14989912
+>>14989907
+correct, but if they magically keep one of the most rare hair colors, easily washed away, if they keep that near to the historic area near a historic population, that might give you a hint of what happened
+you know the best part? I know you know I'm right that's the best part
+
+btw, no moar (You)s 4(Jew)
+--- 14989913
+>>14989878
+They are indeed mostly patgernal caucasian, while their mathernal genetics are more akin to iranics
+--- 14989916
+>>14989912
+>correct 
+It's not correct. Are you braindead? They are genetically different people, how can they be descendants of Scythians? Because 10% of them have red hair?
+--- 14989920
+>>14989903
+>I don't need to,
+lol, it is over
+--- 14989925
+>>14989896
+But according to genetic samples
+--- 14989930
+>>14989925
+there's 3 scythain mummies with hair that I know of, one is blonde and the other is brownish, and the other mostly red haired
+I'll let you find them
+--- 14989934
+>>14989902
+This.
+>>14989905
+Thracians, Scythians, Slavs, Germanics, Celts were called red haired. That contradicts genetic studies (and logic).
+--- 14989940
+>>14989930
+https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2205272119
+There are two scytho-sarmatians, both are brown eyed and dark haired
+--- 14989941
+>>14989934
+oh, better go correct the wikipedia sources then
+hah
+--- 14989945
+>they wuz brown liek me reeeeee the wuz brown reeeee reeeee
+every thread about aryans on /his/ ever
+damn these jews don't even sleep, F
+--- 14989951
+>>14989898
+Tajiks and Afghans
+--- 14989952
+>>14989940
+And one of them is olive skinned lol
+--- 14989954
+>>14989945
+Red hair is a very rare mutation. There's simply no way that ancient Europe was full of red haired people that completely disappeared. We have ancient samples, red hair is very rare in them. Brown and light brown hair is common in all the groups called red-haired by the ancients.
+--- 14989955
+>>14989951
+What about them? They are Tajiks and Afghans.
+
+Mutted peoples with no connection to the ancient culture.
+--- 14989959
+>>14989951
+Persia was founded by some kind of steppe people in origin, right?
+--- 14989965
+>>14989945
+tiresome
+--- 14989966
+>>14989955
+Some Tajiks genetically resemble Sogdians. Or rather, there's little change between Iron Age samples and them. 
+I don't think we have actual Sogdian samples.
+--- 14989982
+>>14989966
+>some
+>resemble
+
+Ok, they still aren't anything other than Tajiks
+--- 14989986
+>>14989982
+>he present Indo-Iranian populations from Central Asia display a strong genetic continuity with Iron Age samples from Turkmenistan and Tajikistan. We model Yaghnobis as a mixture of 93% Iron Age individual from Turkmenistan and 7% from Baikal. For the Tajiks, we observe a higher Baikal ancestry and an additional admixture event with a South Asian population. Our results, therefore, suggest that in addition to a complex history, Central Asia shows a remarkable genetic continuity since the Iron Age, with only limited gene flow.
+--- 14990034
+>>14989810 (OP)
+Ossetians resemble caucasian alanic samples, jasz people resemble european alanic samples, bashkir turks are closest to eastern european and central asian scythian samples, moldovans are closest to european sarmatian samples; digor ossetians closely resemble some of the latter samples
+--- 14990535
+>>14989878
+G2a, but directly followed by r1a-z93
+--- 14990543
+>>14989814
+Red hair is an Ashkenazi trait
+--- 14990545
+>>14989941
+Kek
+--- 14990556
+>>14990543
+that's an interesting rabbit hole for sure
+--- 14991048
+what happened, did the rabbi called you all for some kind of prayer in the sinagogue?
+You MUST complete your job, you must make sure we understand that everyone related to those blonde mummies was brown
+--- 14991064
+>>14989810 (OP)
+looks like my dad's side cousin. I am turkish btw
+--- 14991070
+>>14991064
+there's plenty of arab depiction of arabs with very fair features, it's kind of a mindfuck.
+I know an algerian girl with beautiful and radiant blue eyes, she has black hair but pale skin
+--- 14991319
+joomies, get to work, it's not sabath yet
+--- 14991448
+>>14989810 (OP)
+They are Iranic Sythians who were yellowed by Turks, but then bleached by Russians
+--- 14991459
+>>14990543
+>>14989814
+The red hair is mostly because of inbreeding, red hair is plummeting across Europe and even in areas without much immigration like the country side of Ireland, it is being bred out because more social mobility means less cousin fucking and more dominant genes becoming dominant once more.
+--- 14991475
+>>14991459
+no shit sherlock
+--- 14991492
+>>14989902
+>>14989954
+Maybe red hair just happened to be more common among those populations? Similar to how Irish are associated with having red hair even though the majority of them don't actually have red hair.
+--- 14991825
+>>14989810 (OP)
+Larper in a larp costume because they have no history and learnt to read and write in the 20th century
+--- 14991843
+>>14989902
+>Saĝ-gígi hands wrote this post
+--- 14991873
+>>14989810 (OP)
+>Caucasoids LARPers that somehow took a iranic language?
+The Skoloti were whites that spoke Iranic, so real deal.
+--- 14991891
+Basically alanized circassians who survived by hiding in the mountains from turks/mongols
+--- 14991915
+>>14989878
+>Scythian genetically
+Bunch of mutts.
+--- 14992076
+>>14991448
+>>14991891
+Scythians were huge mutts already anyways
+--- 14992081
+They are less related to scythians than literally everyone else in the north caucasus
+
+They are confused georgians
+--- 14992101
+>>14992081
+t. gogi mutt
+--- 14992127
+>>14992081
+Are we going to pretend this mutt confederation was homogeneous?
+
+Distance to: Scythian_UKR
+0.05091140 Moldovan_o
+0.05172417 Moksha
+0.05357503 Erzya
+0.05756739 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
+0.05848548 Russian_Ryazan
+
+Distance to: Scythian_RUS_Urals
+0.05322550 Bashkir
+0.07747167 Tatar_Siberian
+0.08048528 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
+0.08459161 Uzbek
+0.08980191 Tatar_Lipka
+
+Distance to: Scythian_MDA_o
+0.03472981 Swedish
+0.03578435 Norwegian
+0.03623313 Danish
+0.03973275 German_Hamburg
+0.04014302 Icelandic
+
+Distance to: Scythian_MDA
+0.03201682 Greek_Thessaly
+0.03250624 Greek_Central_Macedonia
+0.03254756 Swiss_Italian
+0.03289433 Rumelia_East
+0.03386152 Albanian
+
+Distance to: Scythian_HUN
+0.02252488 Austrian
+0.02627514 German_Erlangen
+0.02715541 Slovenian
+0.02732899 Hungarian
+0.02759298 Croatian
+--- 14992139
+I don't understand why this guy is still posting the distance to's? His source has already been deconstructed a thousand times.
+--- 14992146
+>>14992127
+>cherrypics
+just checked a bunch of samples, they mostly cluster with ukraninans
+with some italians and mongolians
+pretty homogeneous, they had slaves, and buried those in kurgans next to the chief, which is probably what those italians and mongolians are
+--- 14992158
+>>14992139
+joomers gonna joom, it's his job, and if it's a janny kinda golem (doing it for free) then whew
+why are there so many joomers and golems on /his/?
+--- 14992163
+>>14992146
+They don't. Scythians, Sarmatians, Western steppe IA cluster with Volga Turkic and Uralic populations.
+--- 14992166
+>>14992139
+you're right I was gonna debunk this retard for the #393993th time, but then I realized he already knows he is lying
+--- 14992168
+>>14992146
+Most scythians cluster somewhere in between the north caucasus/tajikstan and northern europe (finland/sweden/baltics).
+That is by extent closer to literally all north caucasians than to ossetian larp larps
+>>14992101
+You will always be georgian, Sarmat.
+--- 14992172
+>>14992127
+>Scythian_UKR
+Not homogeneous. The real Scythians are closest to Uralics/Turkics
+
+>Urals
+Real Scythians
+
+>MDA_o
+Some Germanic. 
+
+>MDA
+Dacians
+
+>HUN
+Locals, some kind of Celts.
+--- 14992186
+>>14992168
+You are closer to a monkey than human niggershvili
+>Verification not required.
+--- 14992242
+>>14990543
+ahh yes all those celts who have the highest occurrence of red hair are actually Jews! stfu stupid nigger
+--- 14992251
+>>14992166
+Right, I just thought maybe it was a running joke maybe? It's not very funny if so
+--- 14992265
+>>14992251
+like I said before, I just hope for his own sake that this is actually his job
+--- 14992616
+>>14992186
+>niggershvili
+Jej
+--- 14992721
+>>14989810 (OP)
+Now someone post the two based ossetian girls vs the jew so we can have a closure.
+--- 14992797
+>>14992721
+i was the guy that asked for it last time, here you go.(they dont look armenian btw)
+--- 14992820
+>>14992797
+Based would breed as is
+--- 14992918
+>>14992797
+>dark brown hair
+>swarthy skin
+>brown eyes
+yeah, Aryan
+--- 14993050
+>>14992918
+Yup 100%, that's why the brownoid said pure, not cum skin rape baby
+--- 14993780
+>>14992918
+Ossetians are admixed with northern caucasian. Northern Caucasians are closer to Middle Easterners than to Europeans. Their Alan ancestors on the other hand are often described by ancient writers as having fair features, e.g. red or yellow hair.
+--- 14993818
+>>14993780
+By the same metric their Alan ancestors are genetically more related to Middle Easterners than to Europeans. Don't blame retard I'm just pointing out the lack of logic in your post.
+--- 14993983
+>>14993818
+At least my post is coherent, your 'rebuttle' doesn't even make sense. Alans spoke an Iranic language, that doesn't necessarily mean they were closer to Middle Eastern populations genetically. The PCA charts I've seen put Alans closer to modern East Slavs than to Persians.
+--- 14994108
+>>14989867
+>doesnt know what a haplogroup is
+>thinks language = genes
+sounds like /his/.
+--- 14994132
+>>14992797
+white ossetian girl larping as an aryan while discussing with a white ashkenazi jew about white germans who larped as aryans in the past
+
+clown world
+
+Distance to: Ossetian
+0.12398977 Ashkenazi_Germany
+0.16934864 German
+0.19819573 Corded_Ware_POL_early
+
+Distance to: German
+0.13102236 Ashkenazi_Germany
+0.14711129 Corded_Ware_POL_early
+0.16934864 Ossetian
+
+Distance to: Ashkenazi_Germany
+0.12398977 Ossetian
+0.13102236 German
+0.23480776 Corded_Ware_POL_early
+--- 14994142
+>>14993983
+>>14993818
+the specific type of Scythian Ossetians claim descent to was genetically similar to modern day volga tatars, they were in between modern uralics (Finns, Udmurts, Samis), modern Tajiks (primordialy pamiris) , Modern North caucasians (mostly Dagestanis) and Modern Scandinavians (particulary icelandics and swedes)
+
+that said, North ossetians are the north caucasians least related to Scythians of the whole bunch
+--- 14994161
+north ossetians are literally the least "scythian" caucasians
+
+Distance to: Swedish
+0.15120512 Dagestan_Kaitag_Dargin
+0.15245903 Andian_Dagestan
+0.15328731 Italian_Calabria
+0.15613142 Dagestani_Avar
+0.15681749 Dagestani_Dargin
+0.15836035 Ashkenazi_Germany
+0.16403625 Circassian_Cherkes
+0.16459884 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan
+0.16542053 Chechen
+0.17556358 Sephardic_Jew
+0.17943790 Saami
+0.18005063 North_Ossetian
+0.19982487 Syrian
+0.22140946 Iranian_Bandari
+0.25422302 Egyptian
+0.27195006 Saudi
+--- 14994761
+>>14992797
+it's better with sound
+--- 14994770
+>>14992797
+I love her facial expressions and how confident she is, and she actually knows what she is talking about. This is a keeper to wife up here boys

his/14989824.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,100 @@
+-----
+--- 14989824
+>search "how Mao won" on Youtube
+>expect some long and detailed video essay about the chinese civil war
+>search results: irrelevant videos, obscure videos with less than 10k views and biased copium videos about how the CPC didn't actually win, the KMT just lost
+
+what gives?
+--- 14989827
+You're a fucking retard with ADHD and the YouTube algorithm has picked up on it.
+--- 14989830
+>>14989827
+considering I'm getting 1-hour long videos on the Great Leap Forward, I doubt that
+--- 14989836
+>>14989824 (OP)
+How he won: he hid out in Pu’nan while the KMT did the heavy work. There, saved you two hours.
+--- 14989843
+>>14989836
+so Mao staged one of the greatest and most famous strategic comebacks of all time just by hiding?
+sounds legit
+--- 14989877
+Military history of China in the early 20th is embarrassing, not even Arabs have such scale of shameful displays
+--- 14989881
+>>14989824 (OP)
+literally read "Little Red Book", and I am not even a communist
+--- 14989888
+>>14989881
+tl;dr,
+Mao literally larped as a forest people during civil war. He hid in forests and caves, suddenly emerged when there were low amount of soldiers and ran away into wilderness when an actual army came. He recruited some young men trying to have fun and he immediately occupied avaliable villages to form some sort of model government and get supplies.
+--- 14989924
+>>14989824 (OP)
+He "won" by waiting for the Soviets to take over Manchuria and hand it over to him. /thread
+--- 14989927
+>>14989843
+Yes, see>>14989888
+He hid the entire time while everyone else was fighting each other and then took charge when everything was done.
+--- 14991061
+>>14989927
+The 1st NEET commander
+--- 14991112
+>>14989888
+>nooooo waaaaaah you can’t just sit back and wait as your incompetent enemies destroy each other 
+Cope
+--- 14991120
+>>14989824 (OP)
+This one’s pretty good 
+https://youtu.be/g7XkFaGFxLo [Embed]
+--- 14991622
+The communists fought a low intensity guerilla war while Chiang's Central Army, the one he had working to build for like a decade, got wiped out in a year, his power base got taken by the Japanese, and he was forced to build a new army and a new power base. His good soldiers died en masse to the Japanese, and when it was time to fight the Communists he was in a shit position. I can link a dissertation about the central army if you want, it's long as fuck but you'd really only be interested in a chapter or two.
+--- 14992140
+>>14989824 (OP)
+Mao was a syphilis ridden and self absorbed idiot that took his country to the very brink of collapse for vanity reasons
+--- 14992840
+>>14989888
+>He hid in forests and caves, suddenly emerged when there were low amount of soldiers and ran away into wilderness when an actual army came.
+That's the genius of it. When you're outnumbered and gonna lose, you don't fight. When the enemy is sleeping and has left an isolated outpost and you can mass your own dudes, you launch a surprise and destroy them and take their stuff:
+
+https://youtu.be/yADSY-0chyk?t=3564 [Embed]
+--- 14992858
+>>14992840
+braindead
+>>14989824 (OP)
+Because Stalin won the civil war for Mao
+--- 14992926
+>Chiang goes to war with Communists
+>West doesn't support him
+>Chiang loses
+>West loses its mind
+--- 14993234
+>>14989824 (OP)
+Map won because of the Soviet Union. It conquered all of northern China and Manchuria at the end of summer 1945, and this all went to Mao’s people. With this position of strength they conquered the rest of China
+--- 14993638
+>>14991622
+Link to the dissertation?
+--- 14993669
+>>14992858
+>Choosing your battles wisely is… le bad!
+--- 14993674
+>>14991112
+nobody said any of these, take meds immediately
+--- 14993698
+>>14992858
+>Because Stalin won the civil war for Mao
+Stalin supported the Nationalists until the CCP walked into Nanjing lmao
+--- 14993712
+>>14992926
+>casually forgets Chiang's retard levels of corruption and how bad the infighting was in the KMT which led to the US slowly stopping their support for them
+Vinegar Joe called it yet /his/lets just push it aside
+--- 14993937
+>>14993712
+I'm not forgetting. It's the case that they could either support the corrupt KMT shitshow, or nothing at all. If they genuinely didn't want China to fall to the communists, then in hindsight, it was a poor decision. Though people probably didn't want to send people and money to China after the biggest war in recorded history.
+>>14993638
+Here, hopefully its open access 
+https://www.proquest.com/docview/303334968/fulltextPDF/E0CBBDD7C634087PQ/1?accountid=4485
+--- 14994848
+>>14993937
+Has an Arizona U login, looks like its paywalled
+--- 14994857
+>>14993698
+>Sending a very small amount of aid to stop the Japanese genocide of the Chinese is siding with the nationalists! 
+literally braindead

his/14989938.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,385 @@
+-----
+--- 14989938
+Do leftists think "ACAB" applies to these guys?
+--- 14989996
+>>14989938 (OP)
+You're talking about people labeling as bootlicker anyone who supports a state they define capitalistic only to bend over to their own party and any requests that may come from it.
+
+Because there's no way a state with a different name could behave like the evil capitalistic one, absolutely can't happen.
+--- 14990000
+>Do leftists think
+no
+--- 14990028
+Yes,actually. Red cops are still bad,retard.
+--- 14990032
+>>14990028
+I thought cops were only bad insofar as they defend private property and capital..?
+--- 14990033
+>>14989938 (OP)
+>Do leftists
+Liberals. Big difference.
+
+Leftists actually believe in the state.
+--- 14990093
+>>14989938 (OP)
+The ones who say acab do, yes.
+--- 14990110
+>anon confuses american liberals for leftists occurrence #57290
+--- 14990119
+>>14989938 (OP)
+>Police
+>enforces private property and maintains capitalism, engages in random acts of violence
+>enemy of the proletariat
+
+>People's Militia
+>protects state and personal property from bourgeois and lumpens
+>proletarian
+--- 14990121
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Depends on the Leftist
+Anarchists? Yeah, they're annoying but at least they're consistent in being anti-state and shit. 
+Marxists? They'll write a whole fucking book explaining how "um AKTSCHUALLY the PEOPLE'S POPULAR LIBERATION police is not the same as the fascist liberal capitalist police because uhh ummm they're not the same" 
+Moderate center-lefts, at least the ones in Europe (e.g. SPD in Germany) at least acknowledge that Soviet style police were oppressive agents and they advocate for the type of policing we have in modern Europe today (i.e a lot less violent and more chilled out, unless you're France)
+--- 14990126
+>>14990033
+>>14990110
+>Nnnnooooo all the cringe ones are actually LIBERALS!
+Lmao stfu dude, ACAB was invented by Marxist labour unions in the UK all the way back in the 1920s and 1930s. Anarchist groups also use it.
+I repeat, "ACAB" is literally a communist labour union slogan, they invented it.
+--- 14990128
+>>14990121
+>hecking moderate leftists
+(liberals)
+--- 14990131
+>>14990126
+This. Liberals RESPECT our officer.s
+--- 14990137
+>>14990128
+You can keep using liberal as an insult, but ain't nobody on this planet who seriously thinks the Soviet Union was a better society than Finland or the Bundesrepublik lmao
+--- 14990156
+>>14989938 (OP)
+What the fuck is acab
+--- 14990172
+>>14990032
+see, I'm such a simpleton that I figured the average leftist hates cops merely because of le niggerinos and abuse of power
+--- 14990187
+>>14990126
+this is your brain on american self centeredness
+--- 14990192
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Yes. What part of "all" is not definitive?
+--- 14990201
+>>14989996
+Well I mean communism is inherently good because equality and I learned in my public education school that equality is the greatest virtue.
+--- 14990207
+>>14990187
+>American self centeredness 
+>American
+I'm European, you halfwit. That's exactly why I know ACAB comes from Europe.
+I can't tell if this is funny or sad, do Zoomers seriously think *everything* is American nowadays? I give it a year before I see people claim that Kropotkin was also an American.
+--- 14990220
+>>14990207
+ive never fucking heard anyone here unironically say "ACAB" and im literally a member of our communist party 
+what kind of fucking cretins do you hang out with
+--- 14990228
+>>14990126
+/pol/tranny cope
+--- 14990282
+>>14990172
+but even in countries were there are no blacks, leftists don’t like cops
+--- 14990339
+>>14990220
+What country are you from, England? The most militant left wingers in France, Germany, Greece, Italy, and Spain are all openly and loudly anti-cop.
+--- 14990344
+>>14990282
+Cops ARE niggers. They're violent impulsive retards who get paid by the government to do so. Just like niggers.
+--- 14990353
+>>14990220
+>Is a communist 
+>Doesn't hate cops in a capitalist society 
+The one hanging out with cretins here is you bro. The ACAB crowd is ideologically consistent and inline with what every Marxist revolutionary group espoused before they took power in their respective countries.
+Erich Mielke, the head of the Stasi in East Germany and long time KPD militant, literally made his fame by assassinating Policemen in the Weimar Republic era.
+--- 14990372
+>>14990353
+What's the point of bearing personal animosity to people in the system?
+--- 14990391
+>>14990353
+>Erich Mielke, the head of the Stasi in East Germany and long time KPD militant, literally made his fame by assassinating Policemen in the Weimar Republic era.
+
+And this type of terroristic vengeful bullshit is why commies deserve execution.
+--- 14990394
+>>14989938 (OP)
+leftists are completely incoherent on cops, anarchists hate all cops which devolves all justice into vigilante lynch mobs and the authoritarian leftists (marxist-leninists) just want red cops and attach themselves to the anarchist rhetoric to desperately grab support despite not believing it
+
+so the tldr is that they have no real actionable opinion on cops that could ever be implemented in the real world, so its left to gay neolib policy wonks to give a trillion billion more dollars to social programs which have never actually worked and just pray that retarded criminals dont be retarded criminals
+
+>inb4 but crime has gone down!
+yeah, probably because policing is more effective and cctv exists
+--- 14990398
+>>14990344
+based department called, it's for you
+--- 14990399
+>>14990353
+>>14990339
+>>14990220
+>>14990207
+This shit cracks me up. Europeans online have become so obsessed with labelling everything they disagree with as "American" that they'll straight up forget their own history or ignore their own society lmao. 
+You see this shit all the time on this website. Right Wing Euros on /pol/ accuse the fucking USA of inventing Atheism and Homosexuality, nevermind that everyone in the real-world European Union actually thinks the USA is an overly religious and conservative society. Then you have the Left Wing Euros on Reddit who will insist that the idea of Race never existed in Europe and it's all American inventions, completely ignoring that people like Voltaire, Hume, Kant, Hegel, etc. all refer to "Race" or that the terms Caucasian and Negroid were invented by German anthropologists. 
+I won't even be surprised if I see some Frenchman claim that Simone de Beauvoir was American because he finds her too "woke" for his tastes, or if a German Commie claims that anti-Semitism was invented by Henry Ford because Big Bad Americans are the root of all Right Wing Reaction.
+--- 14990403
+>>14990353
+this is what i mean by incoherance. functionally acab, but the second they have power they just recreate red cops. which is fine since thats what fascists say they want to do, but at least fascists dont cope by attacking the institution of organised crime fighting the same way leftoids do
+--- 14990407
+>>14990394
+>, so its left to gay neolib policy wonks to give a trillion billion more dollars to social programs which have never actually worked and just pray that retarded criminals dont be retarded criminals
+
+I think reforming the police could help.
+
+American cops are pretty hastily trained compared to other countries.
+
+Also, you don't have a jeandarmerie equivalent, that's there to actually beat the shit out of people, without raising animosity towards regular cops.
+--- 14990410
+>>14990372
+Traditionally, most Marxists view Policemen as class-traitors. 
+This isn't some obscure knowledge digga, that's literally what public propaganda posters say lol.
+--- 14990414
+>>14990407
+watch le wire
+--- 14990416
+>>14990399
+>hen you have the Left Wing Euros on Reddit who will insist that the idea of Race never existed in Europe and it's all American inventions
+
+Leftists are retarded, but yes, race hasn't really been the main self-identification thing in Europe.
+
+Over here, we hate each other over ethnicity, and immigrants are just some more ethnicities to hate/be chill with.
+--- 14990420
+>>14990403
+Yah it's obviously hypocritical bullshit on their part. Same way they espouse pacifism while the DDR's (East Germany) education system was even more militarized than the West and being a conscientious objector in the DDR meant that they'd ruin your life and blacklist you from university or any good career.
+--- 14990430
+>>14990416
+>but yes, race hasn't really been the main self-identification thing in Europe.
+>Over here, we hate each other over ethnicity,
+But that's the thing, Ethnicity was treated as Race in Europe. This distinction is a purely post-war thing. The Nazis called the Slavs another race and treated them as such. 
+Aside from that, Europeans absolutely did have a concept of "white race" and "black race". Part of the reason why the French used Africans to occupy the Rhineland was exactly to purposefully humiliate the Germans, while the Germans were especially offended because they were being occupied by "inferiorers" and not equal white men. 
+Furthermore, during the Boxer Uprising, the Kaiser Wilhelm II straight up espoused Yellow Peril rhetoric and talked about Whites uniting against Yellows (Asians).
+--- 14990434
+>>14990416
+i really really hate this discourse because whilst its true there's more distinction between white races in Europe that doesn't mean that "white" is an American fucking thing. everyone in Europe knows what white means and we use white constantly to refer to Europeans. and obviously race is extremely important, since no one cares about ukrainian refugees despite the migrant crisis from syria mindbreaking most of western europe to be more reactionary
+t. brit
+
+>>14990420
+i dont get why they cant just say the police will act to preserve the state they exist in and enforce the laws. this is bad for communists so they are antagonists to a communist movement but obviously the police will still exist after the revolution.
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Lfc_QmoGQ&t=49s&ab_channel=Xexizy [Embed]
+
+this is a good video, its an elaborate cope by an influential online leftist, that the tldr is just: we want red cops but are too afraid to say it
+--- 14990437
+>>14990430
+> French used Africans to occupy the Rhineland was exactly to purposefully humiliate the Germans
+this did not happen and the french went to extensive lengths to prevent mingling of colonial troops with locals
+--- 14990464
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Anybody unironically saying ACAB is retarded and shouldn’t be considered truly leftist. I’m sick of these anarchists and libshits acting like the face of our movement when all they do is bitch about "the culture war” and "LGBT rights”. Real leftist are trying to make life bette for the economic lower class and poor, not yell and scream about how mentally ill faggots should be allowed to read to children.
+--- 14990471
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Every single ACAB abolish prisons leftist wants people jailed for 5 years for misgendering them. There is no exception to this.
+--- 14990480
+>>14990437
+Well whether the French intended it or not, the German population was absolutely outraged and angered by the presence of Senegalese troops and 500+ mixed kids were born.
+--- 14990485
+>>14990434
+>everyone in Europe knows what white means and we use white constantly to refer to Europeans. 
+No, your asses do in Britanistan.
+
+>and obviously race is extremely important, since no one cares about ukrainian refugees despite the migrant crisis from syria mindbreaking most of western europe to be more reactionary
+
+No, we care about them because half the continent hates Russia, and ukrainians are literally checking every thing right-wingers said they would agree to, in order to receive refugees(similar culture, women and children, employable, non-violent, don't self-ghettoize, etc.)
+
+If Russia started a war in Tatarstan, somehow, they would get the same treatment as Ukraine.
+--- 14990486
+>>14990464
+>No true Leftist 
+See >>14990464
+Communists have always seen the Police force as a tool of the Bourgeoisie state to crush opposition and protect private property. This is literally Orthodox Marxism, it's not "culture war LGBT bullshit".
+--- 14990490
+>>14990485
+>>everyone in Europe knows what white means and we use white constantly to refer to Europeans.
+>No, your asses do in Britanistan.
+He's correct though. Even in fucking Iceland, they specifically requested to the US government to not station any black troops there, but they were fine with white Americans.
+--- 14990511
+>>14990490
+I don't know, man, i'm from Romania, and we've literally never used white in any news article.
+
+The fringe woke retards we have literally had to invent words, to translate "whiteness" as a concept.
+
+Even our famous hate against gypsies is against them as an ethnicity.
+Legit indians, even those that come here, are seen as pretty ok people.
+--- 14990573
+>>14990511
+>Romania 
+Well to be blunt, the "core EU" is generally used as the standard for European norms and culture. France + BeNeLux + Germany + Italy. In these countries there 100% is a "White race" idea for well over 100+ years now. Italian propaganda posters in WW2 were stoking fears of black savages raping white women for a reason (also Balotelli has mentioned anti-black racism as being part of his whole life growing up in Italy)
+--- 14990602
+>>14990573
+>Italian propaganda posters in WW2 were stoking fears of black savages raping white women for a reason (also Balotelli has mentioned anti-black racism as being part of his whole life growing up in Italy)
+
+I think it was more "the american blacks, which are known to be pretty barbaric will rape the locals" than a statement on racial conciousness.
+
+>also Balotelli has mentioned anti-black racism as being part of his whole life growing up in Italy
+
+Again, just one more ethnic group to hate.
+They used to shit on us, too, until recently.
+--- 14990653
+>>14990410
+They should become aware of a concept called 'desiring under a description'. Policemen don't join the police force desiring to 'betray their class'. They join the force under the 'false consciousness' of thinking they are going to serve their communities and bring their families money.
+--- 14990656
+>>14990486
+Yeah Marx hated the police so much that every single state created using his ideals is infamous for its police force. He said that under a capitalist regime, the police are often a tool of oppression, but he never calls for their dismantlement. The police are not part of the upper class and can support the struggle as much as anyone else. They are often tools just as the factory workers are, but that doesn’t mean Marx hated factory workers.
+--- 14990657
+>>14990028
+Wow anon, OP made a simple question. There's no need to reply in such an aggressive manner. Is everything ok at home?
+--- 14990658
+>>14990480
+>the German population was absolutely outraged and angered by the presence of Senegalese troops and 500+ mixed kids were born
+Wow I wonder how those kids got made??
+--- 14990664
+>>14990126
+>Nnnnooooo all the cringe ones are actually LIBERALS!
+Yes. Leftists actually fight to create Leftist regimes. Liberals are just righties pretending to be left.
+--- 14990665
+>>14990602
+>I think it was more "the american blacks, which are known to be pretty barbaric will rape the locals" than a statement on racial conciousness.
+Really? You seriously think them being Africans had nothing to do with it? There's a reason why they were depicting black as night soldiers, which made up a tiny portion of the US army, and not a bunch of white skinned Americans (and definitely NOT Italian-Americans, who were also famously Mafiosi at this time).
+Come on you can't be fucking serious. WW2 was literally the pinnacle of Racial Consciousness running amok. While Italians were stirring up fear about the Big Black Horde, the Germans were talking about defending Europe from "Asiatic hordes" and Japan was talking about "liberating Asia from the White Race". 
+If you can read German, just look at pic related.
+--- 14990678
+>>14990664
+>Leftists actually fight to create Leftist regimes.
+Leftist Regimes also tend to support all the "cringe" stuff like... Gender equality and getting rid of religiously rooted prejudices like homophobia.
+--- 14990697
+>>14990665
+>Yeah bro Europeans totally had no conception of the White-Black dichotomy that they themselves invented and definitely just viewed Africans as being the same as any other Ethnicity they'd come across in the European continent 
+I'd pull out Kant's and Voltaire's quotes about Africa too, if I could find my old university books.
+--- 14990720
+>>14990486
+>>No true Leftist
+Correct. Just like how /pol/troons consider mainstream conservatives "not real right wingers" because they aren't racist enough.
+--- 14990737
+>>14990678
+Leftists are mostly concerned with political-economic matters. You just described noise.
+
+>Gender equality and getting rid of religiously rooted prejudices like homophobia.
+I don't see this in China nor Vietnam. I see this a lot in the Liberal West though.
+
+Stop blaming others for your own faults.
+--- 14990740
+>>14990678
+>>14990737
+Leftist are the cause of homophobia.. modernity is the cause of homophobia..
+--- 14990863
+>>14990737
+>political-economic matters. You just described noise.
+Oh right, women working and their political rights are completely apolitical and meaningless noise. No True Communist has ever commented on women's affairs ever.
+What the fuck is this bullshit of 4chan "Communists" trying to frame themselves as being completely detached from "le cringe west"? Fucking Mao Zedong said pic related, this isn't "western liberalism", it's fucking Maoist Chinese Marxism
+--- 14990881
+>>14990737
+>>Gender equality and getting rid of religiously rooted prejudices like homophobia.
+>I don't see this in China nor Vietnam. I see this a lot in the Liberal West though.
+You do see this in China and Vietnam, retard. Everyone who is anyone in the CCP hierarchy is an Atheist lmao, being militantly Anti-Religion has been a thing since Stalin started executing priests by the thousands. Meanwhile, East Germany decriminalized Homosexuality immediately while West Germany only did so in the 1970s. 
+>Inb4 the SED and DDR weren't true Lefitsts 
+>The CPSU weren't true Leftists
+>True leftism is some obscure 4chan idol nobody cares about because he's "based" and "against woke"
+--- 14990912
+>>14990339
+belgium
+--- 14990999
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Those guys are militia, not police.
+
+Lenin and Trotsky wrote several articles against the police.
+--- 14991026
+>>14990999
+So lefties would stop sperging out if we just renamed our police and called them something else?
+--- 14991076
+>>14991026
+No, because it's not simply renaming it.
+--- 14991317
+>>14990999
+>The state's monopoly on violence and law enforcement group is uuuhhhhh ummm ahhh NOT THE SAME OKAY????
+Wtf is next, the Red Army isn't an army?
+--- 14991340
+>>14989938 (OP)
+>Do leftist think
+Nope
+--- 14991519
+>>14991317
+Whose state?
+--- 14991534
+>>14989938 (OP)
+leftists just hate uniforms, they love plainclothes cops
+--- 14991571
+>>14991519
+The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It had a UN seat and everything.
+--- 14991740
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Hey (You)! Yes (You)! (You) do not have any obligation to follow any orders from leftist “authorities”! Their laws are illegitimate! If a leftist “authority” gives you an order, you have the right to shoot them in the head!
+
+Bang! Lol!
+--- 14991811
+>>14990126
+This is your brain on ideology
+--- 14991976
+>>14989996
+>Because there's no way a state with a different name could behave like the evil capitalistic one, absolutely can't happen.
+It's not about a State. Or a party. You are confused with vanguardism.
+--- 14991988
+>>14989938 (OP)
+Yes, leftoids believe that after they'll teach people to be better and then they won't need cops anymore.
+--- 14992099
+>>14990486
+True, that's why they use the "totally not the police" militias.
+--- 14992273
+>>14989938 (OP)
+pretty much, two types of people join police forces, those with a genuine desire to protect their community and do good, and assholes who want a badge and some petty power, the latter invariably corrupt the former over time.
+
+and quite a few 'leftists' view the USSR and China as betrayals of any sort of 'leftist' principle.
+--- 14992329
+>>14990033
+>Leftists actually believe in the state.
+yes and no.
+
+leftist believe in an ideal of the state ' the state is the people and the people are the state' the state in a leftist ideal society is a democratic entity the expressed will of the people made manifest.
+
+if you arent being given frequent opportunities to exxpress your opinion freely and vote in a meaningful and fair election then what you have isnt socialist or communist its totalitarianism it might be totalitarianism selling itself as something else, which is what the soviets did and what the CCP does.
+
+and a cop abusing power is a thing to be despised in any society, police are citizens entrusted with power to be used to protect and maintain society and uphold the law and the law must be universal the same law for everybody, once cops start forgetting that then ociety has a serious problem.
+--- 14992368
+>>14990282
+>leftists don’t like cops
+probably something to do with the long hitory of police forces being used less for the stated function of enforcing the law equally and protecting all in society and instead being used as strikebreakers and protest crushers in societies where protest was fully justified.
+
+if a society is undemocratic -and lip service aside most societies in the world arent very- the police are used as much as a tool to control and suppress the population as to do actual crime prevention. this tends to piss off people
+--- 14992369
+>>14989938 (OP)
+ACAB is true in capitalist states because cops are class traitors for serving a capitalist state and thus the interests of a few capitalist elites. In proletarian dictatorships, cops serve the proletarian state and thus the interests of the masses.
+--- 14992431
+>>14992329
+Liberal jibber jabber
+--- 14992448
+>>14992329
+>yes and no.
+Typical. No true beliefs or integrity. 
+
+Just say you want power and less vaguely to kill White people. Isn't that easier?
+--- 14992545
+>>14992448
+I'm white why would i want to kill white people.
+
+>>14992329 clarified that belief in 'the state' is not blind and unquestioning the state must have obligations to the people as well.
+
+the right as normal prefers to set up a strawman version of what they say all leftists believe in rather than actually learn a fucking thing.
+--- 14992638
+>>14989938 (OP)
+I agree with them, there were no police prior to the industrial revolution (and its consequences) and things were better. There should be a neighborhood watch made up of conscripted volunteers for cities and people in the country should just own guns and protect themselves with them.
+--- 14994319
+>>14990033
+>he thinks liberals don't believe in the state
+Who do you think defends their so called rights?

his/14990139.txt

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+-----
+--- 14990139
+Crazy to think that if WW1 never happened. The Anglo-Japanese alliance would be the strongest power bloc in the world.
+
+America would remain isolationist and still be rich as fuck. But unless a direct threat emerged, they’d never invest massively into their military. (And considering by the time the British policy was for an alliance with japan, Britains main trade partner was America, and Japan relied on American resource imports. Neither one had a reason to provoke the USA)
+
+The main thing that destroyed their good relations is that the massive debt Britain owed to America after WW1 led to them having to back America in whatever demands they made. The biggest one that fucked the Japanese alliance was the Washington naval treaty which set a limit on naval buildups, something japan couldn’t accept. And which Britain had to lest America recall their debt.
+--- 14990152
+>>14990144
+Also I just find it Pretty interesting how much japan directly copy pasted from Britain for its political and societal structure during the meiji reformation. I guess they decided that Britain was similar on paper enough for it to work. E.g. parliamentary system. Incorporating nobles into another house (samurai land owners becoming lords etc)
+
+Plus of course they wanted to keep their emperor. Even though they largely did fuck all. Much like the British monarch.
+--- 14990240
+>>14990144
+Even in drawings Japs are still hideous
+--- 14990361
+>>14990139 (OP)
+>The main thing that destroyed their good relations is that the massive debt Britain owed to America after WW1 led to them having to back America in whatever demands they made
+
+No, we aren't Greeks, we don't mind paying our debts back in a timely manner. What fucked up our relations was the US siding with commies to fuck us over in the Suez crisis. We built the fucking thing, it should be ours.
+--- 14990380
+>>14990152
+It's clear that Japan and Britain occupy the same metacontext in their respective regions. Down to specific historical events, being influenced by the major empires around them and adapting their culture(Rome/China), down to waging a period of wars to pacify the northern tribes (wars against the scots and against the the Emishi). Anyone who knows the history of both regions can see the similarities.
+--- 14990381
+>>14990361
+If you think the empire was still salvageable by the suez crisis then you’re just plain wrong. Britain was meant to occupy japan along with America after WW2 and decided not to because they couldn’t afford it
+--- 14990392
+Edward would have rekindled the alliance
+--- 14991652
+>>14990152
+uoooooh
+--- 14991686
+USA didn't break its isolationism with ww1, if anything it reinforced their isolationism. It was ww2 that made America step into the world stage, first to defeat the risen fascism worldwide and then to prevent the rise of communism, added with its economic and military zenith, and the vacuum left by the collapsing European spheres.
+--- 14991731
+>>14990139 (OP)
+Imagine if the British and Japanese crowns married into each other and united their countries and then we got an unmatched naval empire full of cute hapas :3
+--- 14991764
+>>14991731
+...for the USN to destroy ^_^
+--- 14991944
+>>14990139 (OP)
+Why didn’t Tojo renewed alliance with Franco-Britain?
+--- 14992137
+>>14990380
+One major difference is that England had almost a millenium of constant involvement in the mainland, while Japan tended to shut itself up in its own little world. As a result England accomplished its grand strategic goal of preventing Europe from uniting, while Japan was unable to keep China from knitting itself back together (which tbf was a lot harder than keeping Europe divided)
+--- 14992566
+>>14990152
+unlike with Britain the difference is that quite a few Japanese actually took the theoretical powers vested in the monarch quite seriously. Like in Britain even though technically the Monarch is the commander in chief of the armed forces in practice the political leadership handles all of that. Whereas in Imperial Japan the political leadership never managed to gain control of the armed forces, although in practice this didn't mean the emperor directly meddled but rather to empower the military as a political player
+--- 14993335
+>>14992137
+They tried to do so with Korea, but Japan had a bigger task at hand with China. It'd be like Britain going up against the roman empire at it's zenith
+--- 14993341
+>>14990381
+>f you think the empire was still salvageable by the suez crisis
+
+I didn't even argue this, can't you fucking read? Honestly, just stop posting if you can't even read dude.
+--- 14993356
+>>14991764
+Based.
+--- 14993375
+>>14990361
+I’m still mad over Suez Crisis and I’m not even British. How did Americans think that it was a good idea to grant more power to uppity thirdies?
+--- 14993432
+>>14993375
+Cause it took power from the Brits.
+--- 14993454
+>>14993432
+But was it worth it?
+--- 14993470
+>>14993454
+>america controls entire world except china, iran, north korea, cuba, and eritrea
+yeah i'd say it was
+--- 14993694
+>>14993454
+Hell yeah.
+--- 14994065
+>>14991764
+>tfw no Anglo-Japanese hapa war bride from my occupation of London in '49
+Why even live
+--- 14994221
+>>14991731
+>>14994065
+>Meet up real life Tifa and Cloud in Italy
+VGHhhh!
+--- 14994305
+>>14990139 (OP)
+>America would remain isolationist and still be rich as fuck
+>The great depression
+--- 14994567
+>>14990139 (OP)
+The alliance ceased to serve it's primary purpose after the Anglo-Russian conference of 1907 and the Anglo-Russian entente. To truly preserve the Anglo-Japanese alliance at its greatest extent would require preventing the unification of Germany. The best way to achieve this would be an Austrian victory in the Austro-Prussian war. Without a united Germany, the British and Russians never have a common enemy to unite against and the Great Game continues for the foreseeable future.
+--- 14994847
+>>14991764
+Royal Navy at its peak will roll over even the entire planet's worth of combined ships.

his/14990306.txt

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+-----
+--- 14990306
+>go to primary (grade) school
+>learn all sorts of fun things, ancient rome, ancient egypt, victorian times, dinosaurs, vikings
+>go to secondary (high) school
+>uhhhhhhh WW1... WW2........ and.... um........ the Cold War
+I learnt more about history from being a Fate/Stay Night fan than I ever did from school
+--- 14990320
+>>14990306 (OP)
+Every school does a shit job at teaching the chronology of history as well
+
+>Egyptians, Romans, Vikings, er... WW1
+
+But the focus on modern history in secondary schools is ridiculius. I could choose from a few units and all of them were WW2 or later.
+--- 14991060
+>>14990320
+If it were me, I'd change the focus to how people were the same back then as they are right now.
+Roman grafitti is were it started for me.
+--- 14991244
+>>14990306 (OP)
+>>14990320
+Mine wasn’t as bad as you’re making it sound. Yeah, the teacher was a football coach and not a historian, but we had one year of western history and one year of American history, and he did about as well as he could have. A school year actually isn’t much time at all to study all of history.
+--- 14991335
+>>14990306 (OP)
+You should have sought out knowledge on your own, loser.
+--- 14993128
+>>14990306 (OP)
+History is really just a series of fables and myths anyway, so who cares?
+--- 14993149
+>>14991244
+Mr. S hated me obviously but he wasn’t a bad teacher. He was actually really lenient to me. I still hate most of the people from that class though and I mention them to pick on them. Like the polak and that frumpy, doughy girl named Chandler.
+--- 14993159
+>>14990320
+I don’t remember us going chronologically like that. I remember us learning the same material in middle school history and again in AP Euro.

his/14990636.txt

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+-----
+--- 14990636
+Can I get some recs for good books about the eastern front
+--- 14990652
+Absolute War by Christopher Bellamy
+
+A really annoying thing I've discovered about pretty much all Eastern Front books is that the first hundred pages is about the Winter War and invasion of Poland.
+--- 14990667
+>>14990636 (OP)
+https://archive.org/details/whentitansclashe00glan_0
+--- 14990681
+>>14990652
+Isn't that where it all kicked off in the East though? I mean it's hard to write anything detailed about the American revolution without devoting at least one paragraph to the French and Indian war.
+--- 14991845
+>>14990652
+
+Because youre reading casual history by historians who just wants to make money like Antony Beevor, and thus every book assumes you're uninformed and wants to provide context. 
+
+If you want to read some real advanced academic shit about the eastern front then I suggest Mark Harrison: Accounting for war.
+--- 14991940
+>>14990636 (OP)
+The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer
+--- 14992201
+>>14990636 (OP)
+https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/114GiK85MPs0v4GKm0izPj3DL2CrlJUdAantx5GQUKn8/htmlview
+--- 14992224
+>>14990636 (OP)
+
+Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder
+
+Frankly it should be perquisite reading when discussing the Holocaust and Eastern Front
+--- 14993162
+>>14990636 (OP)
+Ostkrieg 
+Stalin's War
+When Titans Clashed
+Between Two Giants

his/14990830.txt

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+-----
+--- 14990830
+>blacks get used for slave labor for 400 years
+>get no reparations, stay poor
+>Jews get used for slave labor 2 years
+>get so much reparations (even from allied countries lmao) their now the richest white people in the world
+
+Where is the justice in all that?
+--- 14990839
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Neither should be breathing
+--- 14990842
+who do you think sold the slaves
+--- 14990852
+>>14990830 (OP)
+It's easier to resolve misgivings the nearer they are in history. That's why it was a simple thing for a Republican president to give reparations to Japanese citizens who were mass interned, but we haven't given anything to Blacks. 
+If something has just occurred, the whole of the country can justifiably be called guilty. On the issue of slavery, we were always divided and it occurred over a century ago.
+--- 14990861
+>>14990830 (OP)
+>>get no reparations
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society
+--- 14990866
+>>14990852
+The reparations are welfare, food stamps, and affirmative action
+--- 14990871
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Jews lived in the same poor ghettoes as blacks when they first arrived in America and they now own America.
+--- 14990886
+>>14990871
+Damn, why did they deserve so much handouts? Sounds kind of like insurance fraud.
+--- 14990923
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Blacks are not people you all should be culled jews are the finest humans in existence
+--- 14990926
+>>14990923
+They ain’t giving you a green card vijay.
+--- 14991047
+>>14990871
+What the fuck are you talking about retard, the the jews CREATED America. The Revolution was financed by Haym Salomon and supported by sephardic slave merchants.
+--- 14991054
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Didn’t realize blacks could live for over 400 years. Point out the poor man who was enslaved for 400 years, and I’d gladly support reparations for him.
+--- 14991099
+>>14991054
+Show the Jew who got gassed and he’ll get reparations
+--- 14991113
+>>14990830 (OP)\
+Lol. Wait until OP finds out that most slave owners were Jews.
+--- 14991130
+>>14991047
+Lol, huge cope there kikefriend.
+
+It was created by English Puritans. Jews have been gypsy ghettoniggers for most of their existence. The only exception is Hungarian Jews who were largely admixed with R1b Europeans anyway.
+--- 14991134
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Jews were never used for slave labor. They say that they were but they lie about all kinds of shit all the time.
+--- 14991272
+>>14990926
+I have dual citezenship americam and israeli
+--- 14991296
+>>14991130
+>It was created by English Puritans
+>The Philo-Semitic millennialist undercurrent came to have a direct influence on politics. A number of Cromwell's close advisors, such as John Dury, John Sadler and Hugh Peter, came into contact with Dutch-based Jews such as Menasseh ben Israel and advocated Jewish resettlement in England (they had been banned from the country since the 13th century). Sadler, Cromwell's secretary, even argued that the British were one of the Lost Tribes of Israel in his pamphlet The Rights of the Kingdom (1649) and thus kindred to the Jews, initiating British Israelism. Other Puritans such as Jeremiah Burroughs, Peter Bulkley, John Fenwicke and John Cotton,[18] some of whom lived in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, saw Jewish re-entry to England as a step on the path to their eventual return to Palestine (all tied up within a millennialist eschatology, which would hasten the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and thus the final judgement).
+Amerisharts - kike slaves, zionists and masons since day one.
+--- 14991472
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Jews actually worked
+--- 14991662
+>>14991272
+תפסיק להעלות את התמונה שלך לכאן אוטיסט
+--- 14991673
+>>14990830 (OP)
+what reparations did jews get that blacks didn't
+--- 14992042
+>>14990830 (OP)
+The US has spent around 20 trillion dollaridoos on welfare since LBJ launched the great society.
+--- 14992067
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Blacks don't own the media lol.
+--- 14992091
+>>14990830 (OP)
+They are the most incompentent and retarded race to ever walk this earth, of course any reparation you give them is a waste.
+--- 14992107
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Blacks were used as slave labour for 1500 years by the Arab slave trade.
+
+Black people should be paying Britain for going out of their way sending the Royal Navy to intercept slave ships and bombarding coastal cities to end african slavey worldwide.
+--- 14992285
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Why 400? Arabs are white too and they are set to be the majority in western countries in a few decades. The west owes at least 1000 years of reparations to Blacks.
+--- 14992288
+>>14991673
+big fat checks from the German and French governments for all 12 of their grandparents who were gassed in a two car garage and then vaporized out of existence. What, you think the Jews became rich because they were smart? Nah they’re just welfare queens.
+--- 14992312
+>>14990830 (OP)
+well you see, it's simple really, you need to understand one simple fact
+white people is to blam
+not jewish international banking clique, certainly not the jewish media, and off course not the US jewish-bought politicians
+I hope that's clear enough
+--- 14992371
+Jews aren't rich from WW2 reparations, they were rich beforehand; US Jews didn't even get them. 
+Besides, Western Europe got tons of money in Marshall Plan aid, it just wasn't framed as reparations. Might've helped the Israeli economy through the early years though.
+--- 14992406
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Their rights that white people fought for are black's reparations
+--- 14992418
+>>14992288
+Did Germans and French hand out cheques to American jews?
+--- 14993208
+>>14990830 (OP)
+>>blacks get used for slave labor for 400 years
+When? When did this period begin and when did it end?
+--- 14993217
+>>14991047
+>>14991296
+Except that Frankling and Hamilton founded the cultural and economic center of America explicitly to oppose "Those London Hebrews"
+--- 14993254
+black people have small frontal lobes. thats all that needs to be said
+--- 14993538
+>>14990830 (OP)
+Jews>blacks
+--- 14993761
+>>14990852
+This is unironically the answer
+--- 14994545
+>>14992418
+The French national train company (SNCF) is forced to hand out several billion euros every few years to Israel because Germans used its railway to send jews to Auschwitz.

his/14990937.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,450 @@
+-----
+--- 14990937
+What is wrong with divorce exactly?
+--- 14990946
+>>14990937 (OP)
+marriage should be a lifelong covenant and not something you can just enter in and out of like a bar
+--- 14990950
+i care not if there is no children involved
+--- 14990953
+>>14990937 (OP)
+divorce corrects a mistake so nothing wrong in that
+--- 14991096
+>>14990937 (OP)
+>till death do us part. 
+Nah a few years and I’m out because we really ain’t that compatible after all. Why don’t people just not get married if they aren’t ready for that kind of commitment.
+--- 14991122
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Gives women too much parity with men. Women having parity with men is demonstrably a bad thing.
+--- 14991208
+>>14990946
+>marriage should be a lifelong covenant and not something you can just enter in and out of like a bar
+
+Why? Why should people be forced into staying together if they fundamentally do not like each other and cannot cooperate? 
+
+I’d rather have a minority of TRULY committed happy people marrying than a bunch of miserable fucks trapped as roommates with someone they can’t stand
+--- 14991225
+>>14991208
+Why are people marrying people they can't stand? Maybe if they knew they'd be forced to stay together they would be more careful about who they chose
+--- 14991228
+>>14990946
+>>14991225
+That's a really idiotic subject to make your larp stand about.
+--- 14991239
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Shalom
+--- 14991241
+>>14991228
+Not an argument faggot
+--- 14991249
+It's very possible for people to fundamentally change over the course of several years. Mental illness, personal tragedy of some kind, who knows. You can't commit your entire life to something, then have it change 100% and be expected to stay "committed"
+--- 14991257
+>>14991225
+>>14990946
+>marriage rate plummets to 0 because there are no benefits
+--- 14991261
+>>14991257
+You're gay anyway wtf do you care?
+--- 14991281
+>>14991261
+i'm not gay
+i fuck fat whores on Tinder
+--- 14991289
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Nothing, betas are against it because they want to control their wives and stop them from leaving them for chads.
+--- 14991290
+>>14991249
+Don't get married then
+--- 14991294
+>>14991290
+but people will call you a kike if you say that
+--- 14991304
+>>14991294
+You probably are if you love divorce
+--- 14991434
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Nothing
+--- 14991441
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Completely rips apart a stable family unit in favor of temporary momentary gina tingles
+--- 14991460
+>>14991441
+>stable family
+>has divorce
+ummmm
+explain
+--- 14991532
+>>14991225
+>Why are people marrying people they can't stand? 
+
+Why do you make friends with people you can’t stand? Shit happens. People change, people start to grate on each other living in close quarters, people refuse to change, people idealize each other, many reasons. 
+
+>Maybe if they knew they'd be forced to stay together they would be more careful about who they chose
+
+That’s between the two of them, not you
+--- 14991541
+>>14991289
+That’s literally it. Alphas know they can replace a partner instantly. Betas desperately cling to the one woman who gave them a chance. 
+
+Most domestic violence is the result of beta male mate-guarding.
+--- 14991549
+>>14991441
+I grew up in a broken home and it was worse than a divorced home. Being forced to be a messenger and chess piece between 2 roommates is a nightmare.
+--- 14991556
+>>14991289
+Chads get cheated on and left all the time
+
+The idea that you can avoid being burned by a woman by being the most alpha whatever faggot is a lie being sold to you by self-help guru's
+--- 14991559
+>>14991549
+maybe leftists shouldn't get married or reproduce
+--- 14991569
+>>14991532
+This wasn't a problem in the past. Maybe people just need to stop being so entitled.
+--- 14991601
+>>14991289
+bingo
+
+>>14991556
+its less about being cheated on but the ease at which you can find a replacement. im a mediocre white guy in a medium sized city and i know without fail i could get a new gf within 1 or 2 weeks if i wanted. and im by no means chad. but better yet, the abundance mentality means that i will rarely fall for shit tests, and if i do and she loses interests? back on tinder and dating again
+--- 14991636
+>>14991601
+>>14991541
+>>14991289
+r9k trannies
+--- 14991685
+>>14991601
+Do you enjoy having a string of broken relationships rather than stable partner?
+--- 14991720
+>>14991569
+>Maybe people just need to stop being so entitled.
+Why do you feel entitled to dictate how other should live their lives?
+--- 14991723
+>>14991685
+>dealing with a bitch is stable marriage
+--- 14991727
+>>14991723
+So is that a yes or a no?
+--- 14991729
+>>14991556
+Nobody ever said that “alphas never get cheated on”
+
+Alphas are less DAMAGED by cheating (they don’t emotionally invest in women) and are at lower RISK by cheating (women only fuck upward)
+--- 14991735
+>>14991685
+Wives are worse behaved than girlfriends
+
+The girlfriend knows she can lose her job instantly 
+
+The wife has tenure
+--- 14991743
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Divorce is a blessing when the parents are unhappy together, even worse when one partner is being stubborn and refusing to concede that the marriage failed, it invariably leads to an abusive household.
+
+Incels on 4chins can’t comprehend this because it never occurs to them that being marooned in an unhappy relationship is a more isolating and lonely experience than being single. 
+
+>hurrr covenant
+It’s no more a crime than declaring bankruptcy
+--- 14991745
+>>14991729
+Neither of those are true
+
+Women will cheat on you with a broke ugly dude if she feels like doing it at that moment. They don't make rational decisions when it comes to relationships.
+
+>>14991735
+Female behavior is the way it is because of women's rights/sexual liberation, not because a woman is a wife vs a girlfriend.
+--- 14991769
+>>14991745
+>Women will cheat on you with a broke ugly dude if she feels like doing it at that moment. 
+
+Highly unlikely unless you’re a bitch in comparison 
+
+>They don't make rational decisions when it comes to relationships.
+
+Women are 100x more calculating and ruthless in relationships than men are 
+
+>Female behavior is the way it is because of women's rights/sexual liberation
+
+No it’s not you egalitarian tradcuck. Women have been hardwired since the first sexually reproductive lifeforms crawled out of the ocean to collect the genetic material of the most superior male.
+--- 14991774
+MGTOWcucks are so retarded
+--- 14991784
+>>14991685
+yes i do enjoy it, which is why i do it.
+
+the goal is marriage and kids but im not self cucking myself by losing all self respect the second a woman opens her legs for me
+
+>>14991769
+if that anon read madame bovary he would kill himself
+--- 14991788
+>>14991769
+>Highly unlikely unless you’re a bitch in comparison
+It happens all the time.
+>Women are 100x more calculating and ruthless in relationships than men are
+No they aren't, they're emotional/whimsical. Rich, attractive, highest status men routinely get cucked.
+
+Or do you think you're more high value/high status than Brad Pitt, Will Smith, Jeff Bezos, etc?
+
+>No it’s not you egalitarian tradcuck. Women have been hardwired since the first sexually reproductive lifeforms crawled out of the ocean to collect the genetic material of the most superior male.
+That's why in traditional societies women didn't have rights and had arranged marriages and that system was stable and the current one and ancient polygamous ones were not.
+--- 14991797
+>>14991784
+>yes i do enjoy it, which is why i do it.
+>
+>the goal is marriage and kids but im not self cucking myself by losing all self respect the second a woman opens her legs for me
+Do you think you're going to enjoy it in a decade when you've become wrinkled and balding and women don't want to have casual sex with you unless you pay her (explicitly or in kind) for some begrudging sex?
+--- 14991812
+>>14991797
+i still having healthy long term relationships like every other regular person, I'm just not tying the knot within 2 months like trad people do (before having an identity crisis when they find out they actually hate each other)
+--- 14991815
+>>14991812
+You're not tying it at all sounds like. They're also not healthy since they end prematurely and routinely
+--- 14991816
+>>14991788
+NTA but all three of the men you mentioned married extremely high status women, its barely even comparable
+--- 14991818
+Divorce happens because people practice discrimination and imperfect love. When people use marriage as a form of self-indulgence, unstable relationships are created. They say "no, this other person is a better object for my lust" or "no, there is no love in this marriage; I realize I only love myself" and make a mockery of God's love. To them, it is sin.
+
+People who are obviously lost make meaning of things that are definitely bad for them: drugs, orgies, and any meaningless self indulgence. People who are more subtly lost make meaning of things that should be good gifts: family, community, career, nature, and sex in the context of marriage. Loving worldly things is worshipping the creation instead of the creator.
+
+Meaning is the fact that all humans are capable of reconciliation to God. Meaning comes from fully realizing that we have been loved perfectly. Meaning is to cultivate thankfulness to the master who loves us. Meaning is submission to His will.
+--- 14991824
+>>14991815
+anon i never said i engage in hookup culture excessively, nor did i say that i end relationships prematurely or routinely. this is all a fabrication you've created to cope
+
+i engage in long term relationships with the goal of marriage and kids, the only difference being that I'm also capable of any point exiting the relationship and finding someone else if and when that becomes necessary or preferable
+--- 14991827
+>>14991816
+>She met Will Smith in 1994 on the set of Smith's television show The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, when she auditioned for the role of his character's girlfriend, Lisa Wilkes. She was considered too short and the role went to actress Nia Long. Will and Jada later began dating after he separated from Sheree Fletcher. Prior to this, Will had developed an attraction to Jada, but did not act on it. Jada eventually moved from her hometown of Baltimore to California to be with him.[107] On December 31, 1997, while Jada was three months pregnant,[107] about 100 guests attended their wedding at The Cloisters, near her hometown of Baltimore, Maryland.[108] Regarding her marriage, Jada said that they are "private people" and told one interviewer, "I will throw my career away before I let it break up our marriage.[109] I made it clear to Will. I'd throw it away completely".[110] The couple produce films through their joint production company, Overbrook Entertainment and Westbrook Inc.[111][107]
+>After graduating from college, Tuttle worked as a research assistant to Morrison for the 1992 novel Jazz.[15] She also worked in an administrative role for hedge fund D. E. Shaw in New York City, where she met Jeff Bezos.
+Yes very high status careers before meeting their husbands
+--- 14991837
+>>14991824
+And yet you're unmarried without kids
+--- 14991844
+>>14991837
+only 21 big guy, i got time, my goal is to be married and have kids by 28, which means i have about 3 more years to fuck around before i get serious :D
+--- 14991847
+>>14990937 (OP)
+The children it produces, primarily.
+--- 14991861
+>>14991827
+jada was an established actress (obviously not A list though) and Tuttle married bezos pre amazon and helped run it for a time. so yes they were status-matched
+--- 14991876
+>>14991861
+lol, lmao even
+--- 14991892
+>>14991876
+at which one?
+id grant you that Jada and will weren't on the same level but that doesn't really give away anything else. what do you think that just because a guy has fame that a woman will worship him forever?
+--- 14991906
+>>14991892
+I have been arguing against that in this thread
+
+"Redpilled" people have convinced themselves that being the most successful alpha chad is the way you protect yourself from being cucked. But the reality is those guys get cucked and divorce raped too. You can't win at the game.
+
+The solution is a much more radical restriction on women's rights.
+--- 14991914
+>>14991906
+>will smith chad
+AHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAA
+--- 14991920
+>>14991906
+also bezos cucked his wife not the other way around
+--- 14991951
+>>14991920
+Source?
+--- 14991960
+>>14991914
+You think you have higher SMV than Will Smith?
+--- 14991964
+>>14991951
+it was all over fit when it happened since the woman was bogged to hell and back, cba to check though
+
+>>14991960
+SMV doesnt matter if youre a broken man at heart. WIll has been a laughing stock to the average man for a decade with what he lets jada get up to. he's the most buckbroken man in hollywood and its not even close. everyone in this thread has more self respect than he does
+--- 14992021
+>>14991964
+>it was all over fit when it happened since the woman was bogged to hell and back, cba to check though
+Bezos was already separated before he started dating that bimbo
+
+>SMV doesnt matter if youre a broken man at heart. WIll has been a laughing stock to the average man for a decade with what he lets jada get up to. he's the most buckbroken man in hollywood and its not even close. everyone in this thread has more self respect than he does
+So you think a woman won't cheat on you or divorce rape you and you think you can pull more women than a rich celebrity actor because you respect yourself more?
+--- 14992026
+>>14992021
+>So you think a woman won't cheat on you or divorce rape you and you think you can pull more women than a rich celebrity actor because you respect yourself more?
+
+yes
+--- 14992031
+>>14990937 (OP)
+You don't know what's wrong with divorce because you don't know what is the meaning of marriage.
+--- 14992033
+>>14992026
+adendum: will smith can probably get more bitches then me its true, but id never get cucked like he did, that requires a special degree of mental retardation
+--- 14992035
+>>14992026
+Well in that case you're simply delusional or have been brainwashed by self-help videos into believing that.
+--- 14992043
+>>14991257
+>women can no longer divorce you for no reason (no fault divorce) and take half your shit and never let you see your kids again in the anti-father divorce courts
+>this is a bad thing
+--- 14992048
+>>14992043
+I'm not a tradcuck seeing marriage rates as success
+--- 14992054
+>>14992035
+go read anything about will smith and jadas relationship. you are just completely out of your depth on the subject, even the most pathetic men are rarely THAT pathetic
+
+could he be divorce raped? maybe, would he actually be cucked. absolutely not
+--- 14992204
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Children of divorced parents tend to become criminals which is harmful to society. 
+
+>One major parent-related risk factor for criminal development is parental divorce, as several studies have shown that parental divorce leads to offspring antisocial behavior and criminal convictions [3,4].
+--- 14992216
+>>14991720
+I don't. Stop projecting your leftoid horseshit on to me. I don't feel the need to legislate everything just because I think it's bad.
+--- 14992245
+>>14992204
+That's only really applies to single mothers. 
+Families with single fathers tend to be more stable.
+--- 14992247
+>>14991225
+Considering that the gang here is all about people marrying young, you grow and change from your late teens and early 20’s. In fact it would be strange if your personality at 30 is the same one you had at 20 or 22.
+--- 14992253
+>>14992216
+But you provide no justification for your beliefs? Divorce is rarely a good thing, but in many cases, it's a necessary evil. The option should be available in order to avoid a much worse scenario.
+--- 14992259
+>>14992247
+I guess people in the past just had real problems to worry about
+--- 14992263
+>>14992259
+Yeah no anon they just beat their wives and divorce was much harder for a woman to initiate and carry out
+--- 14992270
+>>14992263
+>They just beat their wives
+Gonna need a citation on that one moshe
+--- 14992290
+>>14992270
+Why don’t you actually care about what’s true? Do you want to just wander through a life of confused delusion? 
+You’re wondering why people in the past almost never got divorced, the fact is that women can initiate divorce now and it used to be much harder if not virtually impossible legally. 
+Take or leave the beating thing, but the difficulty of women to divorce in the past was increased, yielding lower divorce rates.
+--- 14992294
+>>14992290
+Well then women being able to initiate divorce so easily is clearly a bad thing.
+--- 14992297
+>>14991549
+I feel for you bud.
+--- 14992302
+>>14992294
+Or marriage in nuclear families is a bullshit unnatural institution for a large portion of the population.
+--- 14992320
+>>14992302
+You say that but there's no reason to believe that. When we had that family structure our societies were actually functioning. Now that its been largely abandoned our societies are shit. It's not THE reason why but it's clearly one of them.
+--- 14992359
+>>14992320
+that family structure only existed at societies prime
+suddenly afterwards everything went to shit
+makes you think....
+--- 14992367
+>>14992320
+Well on a personal level you can just be smarter about who you marry and when in your life, clearly with divorce rates going down many people handle it fine. 
+
+If you make it harder for women to divorce your oppression women. 
+
+If I were in charge I would try and make extended family living the norm again to lower the pressure on the couple and childcare. 
+
+I don’t find oppressing women acceptable. They’re people like you and I, locking them into a permanent marriage to someone they don’t like is cruel and you should not be surprised that they despise people like you.
+--- 14992385
+>>14992359
+>that family structure only existed at societies prime
+It literally still exists now, you just spend more time staring at screens than you do going on dates
+--- 14992396
+>>14990937 (OP)
+It’s a complicated situation, DESU. Sometimes a divorce is for the best, sometimes it really isn’t. In cases where the people divorcing have kids, a divorce can often really fuck with the kid mentally, but if the parents are at a stage where they’re getting a divorce, maybe they should. As for people without kids, I have no real opinion.
+--- 14992412
+>>14992396
+Oh! I forgot to mention that the courts can often be favorable to women when it comes to things like custody, which is bad.
+--- 14992414
+>>14992396
+Oh wow a nuanced non-retard on /his/ with life experience
+--- 14992445
+>>14992414
+Well my parents divorced when I was a kid, and it did tuck me up in the head a bit, but seeing as my dad was abusive to my mom and us kids, I can’t really blame her for the divorce. Having said that, the two of them handled the divorce poorly, and I do think more divorced parents need to not let their petty emotions get in the way of providing stability to their child’s life.
+--- 14992546
+>>14992385
+and are you really claiming things are actually functioning nowdays?
+--- 14992575
+>>14992546
+You’re going to have to be more specific man. I see some economic problems and looks like some issues in cities but that’s why I don’t live in a city.
+--- 14993173
+>>14992575
+He’s mad and bitter because he’s a NEET who wants the government to issue him a wife and hen force her to stick around no matter how bad or lazy of a partner he is
+--- 14993211
+>>14993173
+Sort of ironic that the guys who need a gf the most choose the least appealing ideologies and religious beliefs to almost all women
+--- 14993214
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Nothing, it's without question a good for both individuals and society.
+--- 14993221
+>>14991225
+>Why are people marrying people they can't stand?
+Now that women have achieved more rights and higher wealth parity, this basically doesn't happen anymore.
+--- 14993225
+>>14990937 (OP)
+Because I grew up better in a stable family. Not merely different. BETTER. And everyone should get a better chance at that.
+--- 14993250
+>>14991960
+Will Smith isn’t an alpha dude. He’s a rich beta male with class clown bonuses.
+--- 14993282
+Divorce Incorporated was created by lawyers to make shitloads of money. Probably Jewish ones. 
+
+The entire process creates debt (to lawyers), mental illness, and fucks children up.
+
+It is a huge mistake even for parents who can make it work to teach their kids now that they should look to marry for life.
+
+Marriage is a religious thing. Civil unions are what everyone else should enter if they want some more substantial form of companionship, and they should be required by law to pick a reasonable amount of time the union should last, say 2 years, or 4, or 8 or something. Division of assets on dissolution of the union should be automatic. 
+
+Frankly, I'm fucking sick of the current stupid situation.
+--- 14993284
+>>14993250
+Was it the wholesome, PG rated rap album that gave it away?
+--- 14993325
+>>14993284
+That’s what gets me. So many betas think that waving money or fame in a girl’s face will make her RESPECT a man or feel AROUSED by a man. 
+
+Tupac was rich. Will Smith was rich. Tupac was famous. Will Smith was famous. Guess which one alpha widowed Jada?
+
+Money, status, and connections are USEFUL to woman. Not arousing. A shy awkward skinny/chubby multimillionaire crawling on his hands and knees begging a girl to marry him is not gonna get the same reception as a smooth, aggressive, physically powerful, cavalier, emotionally unavailable millionaire. 
+
+Any dude can get laid if they pay a chick enough cash. That doesn’t equal respect, love, or anything else. Shit, that even goes for platonic relationships. 
+
+No guy respects a wuss or wants to be friends with a wuss. Because when the shit hits the fan, he’s going to be useless like a woman.
+--- 14993755
+>>14993211
+He’s just lazy and wants to be rewarded for putting in the bare minimum effort
+--- 14993829
+>>14993325
+I mean if they actually knew what women wanted, would they really have time to piss and moan about it on 4chan?
+--- 14994116
+>>14991249
+>>14991532
+This is retarded. People don't change, or atleast they don't change in an unexpected and drastic way. I would give leeway for Alzheimers or Schizophrenia but that's circumstantial and rare, most people get divorced for shallow reasons. Beyond that the purpose of marriage, aside from tax reasons, is procreation. Divorce is setting a bad example for your children and could potentially mess them up if they're at a young age. It's a huge burden for something so selfish.
+T. Child of divorced parents
+--- 14994119
+>>14994116
+>people don't change
+Get a life, desu ^w^
+You might learn a thing or two outside of your parents house, nya 030
+--- 14994140
+>>14994116
+>Divorce is setting a bad example for your children
+
+Teaching your kids to walk away from unhealthy relationships and placing value on their happiness?
+--- 14994167
+>>14994116
+Also lots of people get married for stupid reasons. Some women think it's okay to bully men into it. I've dated girls who demanded marriage be on the table after a week or two of infatuation, and seen other guys actually fall for it and get married after a few months. Marriage is a woman's institution, and them going hard for it is a power move.
+
+It is total insanity to me to consider marriage before dating for 2 years. You don't even really know someone well until you've known them for that long.
+
+Just kidding, I'd never actually consider it at all, women are really fucked up.

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@@ -0,0 +1,338 @@
+-----
+--- 14990938
+where is it?
+--- 14990944
+Jordan 
+Anyone saying Ethiopia is 100% a nigger
+--- 14990956
+Melted down.
+--- 14990964
+where did moses get the box anyway? quite ugly if god made it, i had higher expectations.
+--- 14990971
+Ethiopia
+--- 14990978
+>>14990964
+It had a very Egyptian design, which makes sense with the exodus
+--- 14991037
+>>14990938 (OP)
+ethiopia. Solomonic dynasty protected it but got stolen
+--- 14991050
+>>14990938 (OP)
+Its Mary. 
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmii0zRKP5A [Embed]
+--- 14991051
+it was stolen by dick dastardly and muttley
+--- 14991056
+>>14990938 (OP)
+They found some tunnels under the temple at one point but no one will let any archeologists under there because reasons. My bet is that it's hidden down there.
+--- 14991072
+>>14991056
+Also I've done like no research on the subject, I just watched this video. It's pretty good.
+https://youtu.be/_9sTr6n0MFc?t=1337 [Embed]
+--- 14991206
+The scholarly consensus is that the Exodus, as described in the Torah, is not historical. So the ark of the covenant, built during the so-called Exodus, never existed.
+--- 14991292
+>>14990964
+God gave Moses the exact specifications, and then the best Israelite craftsmen got together to make it
+--- 14991305
+>>14991206
+This "scholarly consensus" is pushed by kikes like Finkelstein who LARP as atheists as to avoid bringing attention to his digs.
+--- 14991313
+It's in Malta
+
+Why do you think the crusaders built a city there?
+--- 14991328
+>>14991292
+The majority of scholars agree there is no historical Moses, and no reason from archaeology, or history, to suppose any of the Exodus story is true.
+--- 14991347
+>>14990938 (OP)
+Probably melted down by Roman legionaries
+--- 14991352
+>>14991305
+>Jewish guy says the Chosen People stuff is nonsense and is anti Zionist 
+>Anti-Jews still find a reason to hate him because he denies the existence of his own ethnic-heritage's magic box
+????
+--- 14991359
+>>14991347
+Oof, based if factual
+--- 14991362
+>>14991352
+>Israeli
+>anti zionist
+Do you realize how stupid you sound?
+--- 14991380
+>>14990938 (OP)
+used by titus as a leg rest
+--- 14991388
+>>14991362
+Kek was confusing him with another Finkelstein then
+Either way though, who cares? A Jewish guy says the story is mythical and BS, what's there to be mad about? It's his own culture's fantasies for him to decry.
+Do you get mad when a Swede says Odin isn't real?
+--- 14991417
+>>14991359
+If factual? Nigga the Romans pulverized Jerusalem and then made a Triumphal Arch you can go see in Rome, there's not much to debate about it. The original Temple's treasures all got sacked, if they survived the Romans then they were taken by Germanic barbarians
+--- 14991419
+Ron Wyatt found it.
+--- 14991429
+>>14991417
+based beyond belief
+--- 14991435
+>>14991429
+>>14991359
+>Oof
+>based
+Anyone here born after 2004 should be banned from posting until they've lurked for 5 years.
+--- 14991436
+>>14991050
+https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/mary-the-ark-of-the-new-covenant
+--- 14991443
+>>14991435
+jokes on you, I'm old as fuck and have been here for more than a decade
+--- 14991449
+>>14991050
+>unleashing the power of deifying cuckoldry will BTFO'd pretty much everything around it
+makes more sense than it should, concerning
+--- 14991450
+>>14990944
+>Jordan
+why
+--- 14991508
+>>14991449
+Ngl that part is the gayest shit. It just comes out of nowhere in the bible. 100% it's cuckery.
+--- 14991513
+>>14990938 (OP)
+
+Random cave around Mt Sinai
+--- 14991558
+>>14991450
+2 Maccabees 2:4-5
+--- 14991643
+>>14991558
+www.bibleandscience.com/archaeology/ark.htm
+--- 14991688
+>>14991050
+>Mary has the rod of arron inside her.
+--- 14991696
+>>14991206
+>The scholarly consensus
+--- 14991710
+>>14990964
+If you read the Bible, it describes how it was made in excruciating detail. Most people understandably skip those parts.
+
+>Moreover, you shall make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twisted linen, and blue, purple, and crimson yarns; you shall make them with cherubim skilfully worked into them. 2 The length of each curtain shall be twenty-eight cubits, and the width of each curtain four cubits; all the curtains shall be of the same size. 3 Five curtains shall be joined to one another; and the other five curtains shall be joined to one another. 4 You shall make loops of blue on the edge of the outermost curtain in the first set; and likewise you shall make loops on the edge of the outermost curtain in the second set. 5 You shall make fifty loops on the one curtain, and you shall make fifty loops on the edge of the curtain that is in the second set; the loops shall be opposite one another. 6 You shall make fifty clasps of gold, and join the curtains to one another with the clasps, so that the tabernacle may be one whole.
+
+That goes on for about 20 chapters.
+--- 14991722
+>>14991710
+>That goes on for about 20 chapters.
+based
+--- 14991725
+>>14990938 (OP)
+Smelted to golden butt plugs for faggot Romans who raped the Hebrews out of existence
+--- 14991734
+>>14991710
+It wasn't just a box, it was the mercy seat, a throne where God would come and sit as Jesus. The priest couldn't see him since Jesus was going to remain a mystery and blind the jews in smoke of God's wrath.
+--- 14991748
+>>14991734
+Most people draw it with wings covering the top, but the wings could have been as a backing for the seat.
+
+[Exo 25:17 KJV] 17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat [of] pure gold: two cubits and a half [shall be] the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof.
+[1Ch 28:11 KJV] 11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,
+--- 14991749
+>>14991734
+I fucking love christcucks they're so delusional it's unreal.
+--- 14991754
+I really like the theory that it was a big ass battery designed to cause electroshock induced mystical experiences.
+--- 14991759
+>>14991749
+Jesus loves you 2
+
+Here is the better picture of it as a seat, like a throne.
+--- 14991766
+>>14990956
+Only correct answer.
+--- 14991885
+>>14991710
+>Most people skip that
+Meanwhile I've had to read it twice now. First in ye olde English because I fell for the KJV meme and now again in my RSV2CE after realising I was missing half the deutorocanonicals after finishing the old testament.
+--- 14991909
+>>14991748
+The commode, or as more commonly refer to it, the toilet, is something everyone uses on a daily basis.
+It is the centerpiece of most bathrooms and iterations of the modern toilet date back over 5000 years.
+>>14991749
+perhaps it was god's commode?
+>>14991759
+where god would take a shit?
+--- 14991918
+>>14991688
+>Aaron
+--- 14991925
+Area 51
+--- 14991927
+>>14991328
+The majority of scholars don't know shit and speculate as much as any schizo
+--- 14991936
+>>14991925
+in that warehouse there
+--- 14992370
+>>14991927
+If there was a Jewish exodus from Egypt 
+should we expect there to be evidence of it?
+or
+expect there to be no evidence of it?
+--- 14992378
+>>14992370
+There is evidence of it.
+--- 14992381
+The answer is in the Bible. Look up the descriptions of Boaz and Jachin. They were not supporting anything and their purpose was to be a part of an underground mechanism, a counterbalance. When activated, the mechanism hid the Ark underground, where it still is to this day
+--- 14992481
+>>14991925
+>>14991936
+Based indianajonespilled indycel
+--- 14992494
+>>14992381
+we know that moses didn't exist and the exodus didn't happen,
+but there's a chance that solomon's temple did, albeit small.
+--- 14992504
+>>14992378
+ok, not what I asked
+still,, I take it we both agree that we should expect there to be evidence of a Jewish exodus, if that really happened
+--- 14992514
+>>14990971
+>>14991037
+If god is so powerful and knows everything, why did he leave it a country he knew would become Muslim majority?
+--- 14992523
+>>14992504
+Evidence is a pretty vague term, but while we generally would expect archaeological evidence it does not necessarily mean that there would be any. It is not necessary in any case for us to have certainty concerning the Exodus, since biblical proofs are sufficient.
+--- 14992533
+>>14992523
+>since biblical proofs are sufficient.
+Sufficient to whom, exactly?
+--- 14992536
+>>14992533
+To anybody because truth doesn't care what your opinion is.
+--- 14992552
+Never existed.
+--- 14992556
+>>14992536
+According to my intelligence contact, my dick has opened your mom's fat ass. I don't care what your opinion on that is, it's the truth.
+--- 14992560
+>>14992536
+The Bible is just a written opinion / fanfic.
+--- 14992561
+>>14992556
+>
+--- 14992564
+>>14992536
+According to my intelligence contact, my dick has opened your mom's fat ass. You must accept it as the truth the way your mother accepted me into her
+--- 14992570
+>>14992560
+The Bible is the word of God
+--- 14992585
+>>14992570
+It is not, in point of fact. Rationally and historically speaking it is verifiably not.
+--- 14992601
+>>14992585
+>Rationally
+What's that?
+--- 14992670
+>>14991885
+Should have got a KJV with apocrypha
+--- 14992687
+According to the biblical narrative, Solomon's Temple was plundered several times. In the fifth year of Rehoboam's reign (commonly dated to 926 BCE), Egyptian pharaoh Shishak (positively identified with Shoshenq I) took away treasures of the Temple and the king's house, as well as shields of gold that Solomon had made; Rehoboam replaced them with brass ones (1 Kings 14:25; 2 Chronicles 12:1–12).
+
+A century later, Jehoash, king of the northern Kingdom of Israel, advanced on Jerusalem, broke down a portion of the wall, and carried away the treasures of the Temple and the palace (2 Kings 14:13–14). Later, when Ahaz of Judah was threatened by defeat at the hands of Rezin of Aram-Damascus and Pekah of Israel, he turned to king Tiglath-Pileser IV for help. To persuade him, he "took the silver and gold that was found in the house of Yahweh, and in the treasures of the king's house, and sent it for a present to the King of Assyria" (2 Kings 16:8). At another critical juncture, Hezekiah cut off the gold from the doors and doorsteps of the temple he himself had overlaid, and gave it to king Sennacherib (2 Kings 18:15–16).
+
+And the Temple of Solomon was plundered by King Nebuchadnezzar II of the Neo-Babylonian Empire when the Babylonians attacked Jerusalem during the brief reign of Jehoiachin c. 598 BCE (2 Kings 24:13). A decade later, Nebuchadnezzar again besieged Jerusalem and after 30 months finally breached the city walls in 587/6 BCE. The city finally fell to his army in July 586/7 BCE. A month later, Nebuzaradan, commander of Nebuchadnezzar's guard, was sent to burn and demolish the city. According to the Bible, "he set fire to the Temple of Yahweh, the royal palace and all the houses of Jerusalem" (2 Kings 25:9). Everything worth plundering was then removed and taken to Babylon (2 Kings 25:13–17).
+--- 14992719
+>>14992601
+a word, look it up in the dictionary
+--- 14992736
+>>14992670
+https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Apocrypha-Books/
+https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611-Bible/
+--- 14992964
+>Is there archaeological evidence of King David?
+The archaeological evidence for King David's existence is limited, and much of it is controversial. Perhaps the most important piece of evidence linked to King David is known as the Tel Dan stele, which is an ancient and broken inscribed stone discovered in 1993 and 1994.
+
+>Is there archeological evidence for Solomon?
+Yet there's no archaeological evidence that Solomon the man ever existed at all. Despite living at a time where scribes were already likely writing the Bible, no inscriptions from across the greater region bear his name.
+
+>Is there archeological evidence of the Ark?
+No Exodus. No Moses. Possible David. No Solomon. No temple.
+--- 14992989
+>>14992964
+--- 14993025
+>>14991388
+Odin was real thoughever, he belonged to the hermetic tradition.
+--- 14993051
+>>14992523
+If there was no evidence for a Jewish exodus, would your confidence in the Bible being the true word of God be reduced?
+--- 14993289
+>>14992370
+should be however there is not
+>>14992670
+completes the comic book
+--- 14993304
+>>14992964
+>No Exodus. No Moses. 
+what do you mean? ridley scott made a movie about it
+--- 14993316
+>>14993025
+>Wotan
+>Greece
+--- 14993320
+>israeli jews dig up the whole sinai peninsula
+>they find zero evidence of the exodus
+--- 14993331
+>>14991696
+Is the article in question wrong in regards to things like the iron in our bones?
+--- 14993349
+>>14991206
+>as described in the Torah
+i can agree with this
+>So the ark of the covenant, built during the so-called Exodus, never existed.
+the ark replica during second temple period is a fact and was witnessed by several people, it was copy of a previous thing that we can not surely confirm what was it and when it was built.
+--- 14994356
+>>14990938 (OP)
+>>14990944
+Abyssinia
+--- 14994362
+>>14991050
+This /thread
+The old Ark is no longer relevant but it is still located in Abyssinia.
+--- 14994371
+>>14992964
+Zero physical evidence for
+Roman Emperor Silbannacus
+Archimedes 
+Genghis Khan
+King of Leonidas of Sparta
+The battle of Stalingrad
+Roman Emperor Sponsianus
+Zarathustra, Prophet of Ahura Mazda 
+Attila the Hun
+The Hephthalite Empire (it was just a bunch of Tocharian/Sogdian city states)
+Dido, Founder and First Queen of Carthago
+--- 14994427
+>>14992964
+Zero physical evidence for
+Roman Emperor Silbannacus
+Archimedes 
+Genghis Khan
+King of Leonidas of Sparta
+The battle of Stalingrad
+Roman Emperor Sponsianus
+Zarathustra, Prophet of Ahura Mazda 
+Attila the Hun
+The Hephthalite Empire (it was just a bunch of Tocharian/Sogdian city states)
+Dido, Founder and First Queen of Carthago
+--- 14994435
+>>14993051
+No.
+--- 14994442
+>>14993331
+Yes.
+--- 14994478
+>>14992964
+I don't think it's that out of the question Solomon existed, we have evidence for some of the later kings like Ahab.

his/14990982.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,269 @@
+-----
+--- 14990982
+Nobody who rejects Christ shall have entry to the Kingdom. Only through Him can anybody hope to find salvation. Catholics, Muslims, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are excluded from this. You have to follow Christ's teachings, not just worship His or His mother's image. Atheists, of course, will suffer the most once judgement has been passed. He mourns the loss of all of His children to the darkness, but the choices they make are theirs alone.
+--- 14990993
+>>14990982 (OP)
+Catholics are the only Christians. Go worship money and the Republican party you trailer trash dysgenic.
+--- 14991006
+>>14990982 (OP)
+>Catholics, Muslims, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are excluded from this.
+Why? What's the logic here?
+--- 14991007
+>>14990993
+Why do you worship Mary? Why do you allow your priests to take the innocence of children?
+--- 14991012
+>>14991006
+They are heretics and do not follow His plan for us. They pollute His message with blasphemous lies.
+--- 14991031
+>>14991007
+Why do you hate the mother of Christ? Why do you try to reconcile the love of money and hatred of your fellow man with the faith?
+
+Answer: because you're a Protes-taint
+--- 14991040
+>>14991031
+I do not hate her. I do not use her image to commit the sin of idolatry. Why is that so hard to understand?
+--- 14991043
+>>14991012
+His message being based on the Bible, right? The same Bible that the Council of Nicaea determined the canon of. The same Bible proliferated by the institution of the Catholic Church across the world...
+
+I'm not even a Christian but other Christians decrying Catholics will never not be funny to me
+--- 14991097
+>>14991040
+Cope heretic
+--- 14991147
+>>14990982 (OP)
+Let me guess there wasn't real Christianity until 1500 + x.
+--- 14991247
+>>14991147
+Catholicism was a corruption of Christ’s teachings, yeah. Not OP btw.
+--- 14991387
+>>14990982 (OP)
+>Atheists, of course, will suffer the most
+Heretical nonsense
+--- 14991400
+>Nobody who rejects Christ shall have entry to the Kingdom. 
+
+That's not what the Quran says
+--- 14991447
+>>14990982 (OP)
+How do Jehovah's Witnesses reject Christ though ?
+
+He is our Lord.
+--- 14991488
+>>14991447
+You reject the Trinity.
+--- 14991502
+>>14991488
+The Trinity isn't Biblical canon
+--- 14991517
+>>14990982 (OP)
+>Atheists, of course, will suffer the most once judgement has been passed.
+Ah yes, pedophiles, rapists and murderers welcome to my kingdom as long as you don't reject me :) Atheists get the rope no matter their virtues though. Great fucking religion lmfao
+--- 14991518
+I desire to go to Hell and not to Heaven. In the former I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks and apostles.
+--- 14991527
+>>14991502
+When did JW’s start caring about what is or isn’t in the Bible? Nowhere in the Bible does it say celebration of birthdays and holidays are forbidden but you guys are gung-ho about that.
+--- 14991537
+>>14991518
+>goes to hell expecting to converse with popes, kings, and philosophers
+>ends up boiling in a pot of shit with Ricky Gervais
+--- 14991540
+>>14991527
+JW’s claim a lot of things that aren’t in the Bible, just like the Pagan Catholics and their intercession of saints.
+
+But at least there were smart, educated Catholics throughout history, JW’s tend to be toilet cleaners at JC Penny who put off getting an education waiting for an Armageddon that will never come.
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions
+--- 14991547
+>>14991537
+Boiling in shit is a neurotic kike fantasy from the Talmud, thanks for admitting that christcucks are good goyim who slurp up corpophiloc jewish ramblings
+--- 14991551
+>>14991447
+You worship a fake Jesus that was made up by Charles Russel in the 19th century, besides your other problems. You can no more be saved by that fiction than by the Mexican convenience store clerk Jèsus
+>>14990993
+Rome has a false gospel. Nobody will be saved while they are seeking to be justified by works, or when they think an abominable ritual of cracker-worship is a repetition of Christ's sacrifice which was once for all, and which actually removed the sins of those for whom it was made.
+--- 14991560
+>>14991518
+This is what you'll enjoy in hell, chuddie. Also the company you'll enjoy will be trannies and faggots
+--- 14991568
+>>14991517
+Atheism is a sin, and unrepentant sinners go to hell.
+--- 14991608
+>>14991560
+Can't be worse than being a man under 6'0
+--- 14991648
+>>14990982 (OP)
+I don't approve of these AI generated Ricky Gervais in hell images but I still find them really funny, similar to how I hate Christopher Nolan's Batman movies but love Baneposting
+--- 14991664
+>>14991568
+Yet you don't touch on the other sins even non christians consider as such. Interadesting
+--- 14991672
+>>14991664
+God will touch on them at the last day, all sinners need Jesus to be saved, there is no salvation outside of Him
+--- 14991676
+>>14991664
+They don’t dedicate their lives to shitting on Christ’s message, generally speaking.
+--- 14991679
+>>14991040
+>muh idolatry
+muslim tier
+--- 14991683
+>>14991551
+>Nobody will be saved while they are seeking to be justified by works
+
+>Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
+
+>For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
+
+>Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
+
+>Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
+
+>When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
+
+>Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
+
+>And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me
+--- 14991702
+>>14991683
+Yes.
+--- 14991746
+>>14991672
+>>14991676
+This is probably why we have mass convict releases. dindu retards and free pass to paradise retards.
+--- 14991753
+>>14991746
+>hmm, I hate Jesus
+>therefore [thing I dislike] must be Jesus' fault!
+--- 14991758
+>>14991746
+Niggers are the race with the lowest IQ, the lowest demonstrated critical thinking ability, and the most likely to be Christian.
+
+Coincidence?
+
+>bix nood imma murk a mufugga den ask skyhomie to hook me up wit dat paradise game
+--- 14991775
+>>14990982 (OP)
+According to that statement, how do Muslims violate Christ's teachings? They neither worship him nor his mother. He is seen as one of the greatest, if not the greatest, prophet of the Lord.
+--- 14991785
+>>14991758
+God chooses fools to shame the wise
+--- 14991790
+>>14991775
+>They neither worship him
+Answered yourself
+--- 14992153
+>>14991040
+I think there should be a point in the life of a protestant where he realises he has believed in literal bullshit proposed by schismatic idiots and he should snap out of all this nonsense. 
+You have been tricked into a false Church but past a certain threshold you become another dirty tricker.
+--- 14992175
+>>14990993
+Lmao Catholics are so hilarious when they try to claim the intellectual high ground. You still believe in most of the same iron age superstitious bullshit as the snake handlers do.
+--- 14992235
+>>14990982 (OP)
+Probably one of the best ricky posts. Yep, Jesus Christ is the Christ and the only way, the only truth, and the only life.
+All are made to kneel and bow before the Lord, christians just already did willingly and that is the only way to go to heaven is by accepting the forgiveness of your sins from God's Son through the only name God gave to man is Jesus!
+--- 14992246
+>>14990982 (OP)
+just pray lmao
+https://imgur.com/a/KS8zlUy
+--- 14992264
+>>14991518
+Look bro, I won't try to stop you if you try to start posting your love for God and His Son after you make a post like this, but you'd have to stay dedicated and build that relationship with Jesus and never be wishy washy again. Aka I forgive you and God bless you but you are headed for hell.
+--- 14992383
+>>14992264
+--- 14992411
+>>14991790
+>Answered yourself.
+Where does Jesus say in the bible "I am God worship me"?
+Jesus said to the rich young man. Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.
+Mark 10:18
+--- 14992500
+>>14992411
+Hello mr. Deedat. See John 9:37-39
+--- 14992517
+>>14991518
+>being 12 years old on 4chan
+--- 14992524
+>>14991012
+>Catholics are heretics
+Kek
+--- 14992748
+>>14992500
+>See John 9:37-39.
+Jesus was a messenger of God. God had created him especially for his mission.
+
+Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations
+--- 14992780
+>>14992748
+>Jesus was a messenger of God. God had created him especially for his mission.
+Ignoring the fact you just completely fled from the previous topic to start preaching, Jesus was indeed the messenger of God who was sent into this world. Though He existed in the very form of God, He did not count equality with God something to hold at all costs, but took on the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that to the name of Jesus every knee should bend and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
+--- 14992831
+>>14992780
+>hough He existed in the very form of God, He did not count equality with God.
+Blatant contradiction.
+You cannot be fully human and fully God, meanwhile also pray to God at the same time.
+Why did Jesus say "Oh Lord why have you Forsaken me" when he was supposedly crucified? 
+If Jesus was God why did he get irrationally angry at a fig tree?
+"Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again…” Mark 11:12-14
+
+
+In John 20:17, Disputes Trinity: "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God."
+--- 14992857
+>>14991007
+https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-texas-pastors-charged-abusing-children-1765910?amp=1
+--- 14992876
+>>14990982 (OP)
+I'd rather not enter that shitty kingdom anyways. I renounce Christ and their dishonorable god
+--- 14992880
+>>14992383
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5t4p2RcaNY [Embed]
+--- 14993274
+>>14992831
+>You cannot be fully human and fully God, meanwhile also pray to God at the same time.
+So, do you make the rules? If so, then know that God made the rules specifically to break them.
+
+>fig tree
+This is a physical metaphor for the Judaic leadership. They bore no fruit.
+--- 14993466
+>>14990993
+>Go worship money
+The Catholic Church is one of the richest entities on the planet.
+--- 14993486
+>>14990982 (OP)
+>salvation
+From what?
+
+>Atheists, of course, will suffer the most
+From whose action?
+--- 14993751
+>>14990982 (OP)
+Religions are outdated anyway and the future of spirituality lies in NDEs as they are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die.
+
+Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:
+
+https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o [Embed]
+
+It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:
+
+https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist 
+
+>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."
+
+Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.
+
+Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:
+
+>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."
+
+Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.
+--- 14993763
+>>14991518
+Nice Chinese replica, Nguyen
+--- 14993768
+>Lmao Catholics are so hilarious when they try to claim the intellectual high ground. You still believe in most of the same iron age superstitious bullshit as the snake handlers do.
+--- 14993976
+>>14993486
+>From whose action?
+Their own, obviously.

his/14991025.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,129 @@
+-----
+--- 14991025
+>Britain's Prime Minister and King are both pagans 
+What are the implications of this? Is England a pagan country again?
+--- 14991039
+>>14991025 (OP)
+The Lion represents England and unicorn is Scotland, I think?
+--- 14991044
+>>14991025 (OP)
+--- 14991052
+>>14991025 (OP)
+By law according to Parliament, the King has to be Protestant whether he likes it or not.
+--- 14991057
+>>14991044
+It's a symbol of Spring... because the coronation is now in Spring.
+Not to say Charles isn't sketchy. He is for a lot of other reasons. But this is silly.
+--- 14991062
+>>14991044
+he's positioning himself to be the head of all British faiths, which makes sense given anglican church attendance is non-existent and the power sharing agreement requires the church to actually have power
+--- 14991071
+>>14991052
+"Protestant" in Anglicanism doesn't mean a whole lot. You could get to the very edge of Anglo-Catholic, and still be Anglican. Or the lowest of the low Churchmen evangelicals, and still be Anglican.
+--- 14991082
+>>14991052
+by law by shmore,
+
+whats the mechanism for enforcement? is the law actually written down and is there an actual legal context for its use? or is it just some archaic common law tome that was used one time during the glorious revolution and never again?
+--- 14991086
+>>14991071
+He still has his role in respect to the Church of Scotland, the Presbyterian one.
+--- 14991091
+>>14991082
+They were willing to shift the entire family line towards the German end just to avoid Catholic heirs taking the throne. Must be something written down.
+--- 14991093
+>>14991082
+>is the law actually written down 
+Yes, get your head out of your asshole, republican retard.
+
+Laws don't expire just because they're old and you don't like them.
+--- 14991128
+>>14991091
+yeah when the country was actually fucking religious a hundred years ago
+
+>>14991093
+allow me to introduce the wonderful world of english common law, not sure why you think im a republican though
+--- 14991144
+Green Man is merely a medieval church decoration. It did not come from any pagan cult.
+--- 14991150
+>>14991025 (OP)
+>King Charles
+>Pagan
+Wrong.
+--- 14991152
+>>14991128
+>yeah when the country was actually fucking religious a hundred years ago
+I understand. I guess they're just slow to change.
+Interestingly, Prince Phillip's mom became an Orthodox nun later in life (or some kind of cloistered role). They had ties to even Greece at one point, and this rubbed off on some in their circles.
+--- 14991186
+>>14991128
+The law says the monarch must me Protestant.
+Cry in the corner and dial 8.
+
+The Act of Settlement of 1701, The Coronation Oath Act of 1688
+--- 14991254
+>>14991150
+>it contains the magic tree parts
+>not pagan
+--- 14991258
+>>14991254
+>Christianity is pagan!
+what a cope
+--- 14991264
+>>14991254
+Relics are biblical. If you don't like it, that's your problem, but it isn't pagan.
+>Elijah's mantle
+>And God did extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so that handkerchiefs or aprons were carried away from his body to the sick, and diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.-Acts 19:11-12
+--- 14991271
+>>14991258
+Cope with what you braindamaged larper?
+--- 14991300
+>>14991186
+who was the first person to take the coronation oath in 1688 and why hahah kek, i knew it! it was because of the glorious revolution, when we had a catholic monarch and the british parliament revolted and replaced him with the dutch william of orange, exactly what i said, some archaic law from a bygone time
+--- 14991323
+>>14991300
+It's not archaic and bygone.
+Elizabeth II took it, as will Charles III.
+
+Sneed!
+--- 14991333
+>>14991271
+cope with reality
+you literally called cross pagan just to prove that there is a pagan monarch
+i am sorry that we have to bring you to reality
+--- 14991341
+>>14991039
+>historylets enters /his/
+--- 14991344
+>>14991323
+man youre really grinding my gears, im gonna outshoot you so hard on longbow practice on sunday after church, then we'll see who's laughing
+--- 14991348
+>>14991344
+Your arrow will not pierce the Book of Common Prayer.
+--- 14991368
+>>14991057
+>>14991044
+>>14991144
+It's also on St. George's Orthodox feast day in the Julian Calendar, who is associated with the Green Man (who is really just Al-Khidr or Enoch or Hermes/Thoth symbolised).
+
+King Charles should have disdain for the Anglican church yet its his duty. He is a Traditionalist, there is no way in Hell he actually believes in Anglicanism. He has written in all sorts of perennialist religious journals/publications such as World Wisdom. At best he is Orthodox like his grandmother or he is part of some 'masonic' 'mystery school'.
+--- 14991412
+Regular reminder that the "Green Man" is found in churches and Christian imagery going back about 1000 years and it was only in the 1930s did some random hack claim they represented super secret pagans hiding symbols out in the open.
+--- 14991415
+>>14991341
+I left a question mark at the end. You don't have to be a cunt about it. Educate me, if you want.
+--- 14991439
+>>14991412
+It's always some schizo redneck. They did that with the "New King James Bible" because it's logo was originally a Triquetra (picrel). It was taken from the Book of Kells and often used in medieval Celtic stonework as well. But since it had some pagan use before that, they lost their minds.
+--- 14993095
+>>14991254
+cope protestard
+--- 14993161
+>>14991044
+It's hilarious these conservative chaps still think the sovereign is anything other than an inbred retard with a fetish for sand niggers.
+--- 14994633
+>>14991025 (OP)
+it has been since henri viii
+--- 14994807
+>>14991052
+By Divine Right of Monarchy Anglo-Saxon Kings Descend from Woden and are sanctified by Ingui-Frea

his/14991049.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991049
+Probably we first need to define it or maybe it's impossible to know as of now but then perhaps the closest to it from our understanding. Maybe if we understand things through philosophy then we should do it as much as possible and for now this is best action we can undertake until we find out the truth?
+--- 14991065
+>>14991049 (OP)
+When it clicks
+--- 14991136
+>>14991065
+What?
+--- 14992100
+Bump...
+--- 14993201
+Bump!

his/14991135.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991135
+Wouldn’t it make more sense to just divide these countries territory 50-50 instead of giving them de jure independence ?
+--- 14991138
+>>14991135 (OP)
+You forgot Czechia
+--- 14991141
+Countries being annexed infuriates the anglo-american world and triggers an irrational fear of the ghost of hitler
+--- 14991159
+>>14991135 (OP)
+Good luck annexing Afghanistan lol
+--- 14992443
+>>14991135 (OP)
+its mean
+--- 14992474
+>>14991135 (OP)
+Need somewhere to fight proxy wars
+--- 14992626
+most of them were territories only valuable insofar as they were important to great game politics between nations. Without any noteworthy resources to exploit it was easier to create buffer states that would serve the same purpose without requiring direct administration and any headaches that would entail.
+--- 14993526
+Afghanistan fought several wars for their independence and kept it by winning.
+
+Finland was never independent historically. Not a buffer state.
+
+Mongolia was part of the Qing and Russia for the last 300 years. Not a buffer state.

his/14991148.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991148
+>"Israel settled in Shitim, and the people began to commit harlotry with the daughters of Moav. [The women] called the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods. Israel attached itself to Baal Peor, and the wrath of Hashem flared against Israel." (Bamidbar 25:3)
+
+>It is safe to say that the most disgusting form of avodah zarah (idolatry) mentioned in Tanach is the worship of Baal Peor. The character of this mode of worship is alluded to in the name of the deity itself. "Peor" (פ.ע.ר.) means "to open," and denotes "the opening of an orifice" - in this case, the rectum, as we shall soon see. Thus, "Baal Peor" means "Master of the Rectum Opening." The method of Baal Peor's worship is codified by Torah she'baal Peh (the Oral Torah) in Sanhedrin 7:6:
+
+>"One who defecates on Baal Peor is liable, for this is how it is customarily worshiped."
+
+>The Gemara (Sanhedrin 64a) provides a rather vivid description of how this worship was implemented in practice:
+
+>"Rav Yehudah said in the name of Rav: There was an incident involving a gentile woman who was very sick. She said, "If I am healed, I will go and worship all of the avodah zarah in the world." She was healed, and went to worship all of the avodah zarah in the world. But when she came to the avodah zarah of Peor, she asked [one of] the priests, "How do you worship this one?" He said, "You eat and drink laxatives and defecate in its face." She said, "I would rather be sick again than to worship avodah zarah like this!"."
+--- 14991151
+>The Gemara then reports that the highest level of Baal Peor worship was, sadly, demonstrated by a Jew:
+
+>"But the Jews were not that way... There was an incident involving Savta ben Elas who rented out his donkey to a gentile woman. When they reached Peor she said to him, "Wait here until I go in, [worship], and come out." After she came out he said to her, "You, too, wait for me until I go in, [worship], and come out." She asked him, "But aren't you a Jew?" He responded, "That's none of your business." He went in, defecated in its face, and wiped himself on its nose, causing the priests to praise him saying, "We've never seen anyone worship like this before!"."
+
+>Those who learn these facts about Baal Peor for the first time are likely to react by falling to their knees, gazing heavenward with outspread palms, and exclaiming, "WHYYYY????"
+
+>As "civilized Westerners" with "modern sensibilities" it is difficult enough to relate to the standard modes of avodah zarah, such as bowing down to a statue or offering incense and libations - but at least we can understand the appeal in such rituals. Baal Peor, on the other hand, runs contrary to all of our common-sense assumptions about religion, both modern and primitive. To my knowledge, human feces is regarded as repulsive across all cultures and time periods. The notion of a religion built around bowel movements strikes us as absurd
+--- 14991154
+>The question is: What was the appeal of Baal Peor? [1] How could dung be elevated to the level of devotion? How could people regard excrement as sacrament? How could poo prove piety? ... okay, that's enough scat-talk for now
+
+>Today I came across an explanation given by Rav Hirsch [2] which opened up [3] an entirely new world of insight for me. He writes:
+
+>"There were various baalim, deified powers. There was Baal Tzefon, a midnight god of the desert (Shemos 14:2). In contrast, there was Baal Maon (Bamidbar 32:38), a god of dwelling places, and Baal Bris (Shoftim 8:33), a god of the union of people. There was also Baal Zevuv (Melachim II 1:2), apparently a god of decay to whom they would turn in times of illness and inquire of him about life and death."
+
+>"And there was also Baal Peor, a god of shamelessness, who was worshiped by giving brazen prominence to the most bestial aspects of human life. Hence, Hoshea says: "They came to Baal Peor and dedicated (va'yinazru - from the same root as "nazir") themselves to shamefulness" (Hoshea 9:10) - [that is to say, they] sanctified/designated themselves for shamefulness."
+
+>The cult of Peor is an illustration of the type of Darwinism that glories in man's descent to the level of the beast, where, stripping himself of his Divinely-given nobility, he comes to regard himself as merely a highly-developed animal
+--- 14991163
+>>14991148 (OP)
+>>14991151
+>>14991154
+What are the historical reasons for this?
+--- 14991166
+>>14991148 (OP)
+>>14991151
+>>14991154
+Ain’t nothing wrong with paying for the gods blessing to have a nice, healthy, poop. Especially at a time when diarrhea could kill you. Even today, pagans like the Easy Asians And Indians still worship poop gods and toilet gods, etc. it’s not as disgusting and people try to make it seem.
+--- 14991354
+>>14991163
+I was reading a doujin about it.
+--- 14991394
+>>14991386
+Proceed
+--- 14991467
+Imagine the smell...
+--- 14991599
+End.
+
+Source: https://nhentai.to/g/322613
+--- 14992845
+>>14991148 (OP)
+>>14991151
+>>14991154
+90s megaten mentioned
+>90s megaten mentioned
+90s megaten mentioned
+>90s megaten mentioned
+90s megaten mentioned
+>90s megaten mentioned
+90s megaten mentioned
+>90s megaten mentioned
+90s megaten mentioned
+>90s megaten mentioned
+--- 14992953
+God punish the Japanese.
+--- 14993300
+>>14992953
+Sneed, Cope, Seethe and Dilate.
+--- 14994235
+>>14991405
+>ScatLite™
+>>14991579
+>NTR
+>>14992953
+Seconded
+--- 14994279
+>>14994235
+Sekai is her platonic love, Cuckfag.
+--- 14994516
+>>14991148 (OP)
+something something germans!
+
+*checks thread to see if someone else beat me to it*

his/14991155.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991155
+What do atheists think Jesus really was?
+--- 14991157
+in the story hes a rabbi. in reality he didn't exist.
+--- 14991162
+>>14991155 (OP)
+>atheists
+>think
+
+please rephrase
+--- 14991167
+>>14991155 (OP)
+Hellenised jewish mystic. He hated gentiles.
+--- 14991173
+>>14991155 (OP)
+They bounce between total myth and apocalyptic Jewish sectarian.
+--- 14991327
+>>14991155 (OP)
+A 4'6 Jewish rabbi that was crucified for being a weirdo
+--- 14991406
+Some cult leader. I remember reading somewhere that the region was absolutely rife with cults and wannabe saviors of mankind at that time
+--- 14993138
+>>14991406
+Not really much different from today.

his/14991188.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,43 @@
+-----
+--- 14991188
+ITT people who literally and unironically got TOO COCKY
+--- 14991197
+>>14991188 (OP)
+--- 14992427
+>>14991188 (OP)
+bump
+--- 14992492
+Mohács was a mistake.
+--- 14992790
+>>14991188 (OP)
+It’s funny you post that thumbnail because in the video he explains how Crassus actions weren’t as foolish as it’s commonly believed
+--- 14992875
+>>14991188 (OP)
+Napoleonbros...we were on the verge of greatness, we were this close ((shows fingers)) to bringing peace and security for Europe.
+--- 14992888
+>>14991188 (OP)
+Should have left Vietnam alone
+--- 14992952
+>>14992790
+So, what, the Parthians were just geniuses? No Roman could ever be a gigantic retard, those horse guys were just all Alexander-tier generals and each one of them could smite Jupiter himself with his bow and arrows.
+--- 14992965
+>>14992952
+Medshits couldn't compete with Aryan Parthians.
+--- 14992978
+>>14992952
+The Parthians were pretty good on that occasion and Crassus happened to be a mediocre general but certainly not a massive retard you should watch the thing
+--- 14992986
+>>14991188 (OP)
+Idk Amin
+--- 14992996
+>>14992986
+*Idi
+--- 14993139
+>>14992978
+>Crassus happened to be a mediocre general but certainly not a massive retard you should watch the thing
+Dude saved Sulla's life and won Sulla that cvil war
+--- 14993154
+>>14991188 (OP)
+--- 14993224
+>>14991188 (OP)
+THEY'RE NOT RUNNING OUT OF ARROWS!!!!

his/14991385.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991385
+Is he the most based historian out there today?
+--- 14991428
+I find his picking on Ukraine lately to be pretty distasteful but otherwise he's very well spoken and makes many excellent points, especially when it comes to examining the absurdities plaguing modern western societies.
+--- 14991792
+>>14991385 (OP)
+I like his phlegmy old man coughs.
+--- 14993045
+>>14991385 (OP)
+The inspiration for this meme came from a comment left under one of his videos
+--- 14993126
+>>14991385 (OP)
+Hello again!
+--- 14993140
+>>14991385 (OP)
+Coping white dinosaur that will be replaced by his pakistani and polish superiors
+--- 14993321
+>>14993140
+>pakistani 
+>superiors
+lmao
+--- 14993406
+>>14993321
+cope
+--- 14993413
+>>14991385 (OP)
+Almost too based
+--- 14993619
+>>14993406
+pakistanis are certainly superior to all others at fucking their own cousins/nieces and shitting out spasticated abominations.
+--- 14993626
+>>14991385 (OP)
+Give me a rundown on this character. Whats his best videos?
+--- 14993639
+>>14991385 (OP)
+>blacks are le bad!
+--- 14993664
+>>14991385 (OP)
+Quite cringe and dumb to be honest. And he looks like Waluigi.
+--- 14993721
+>>14993626
+I like his videos defending Churchill's legacy.
+--- 14993798
+>>14991385 (OP)
+Good but somewhat dim.
+--- 14994103
+>>14993639
+He doesn't say that though. He's obviously fed up with the reluctance of society to be honest about the differences between blacks and other people and some of the problems that they have/cause. 
+If you watch enough of his videos it seems like he has plenty of years of experience of interactions with black people so he's probably not just ignorantly talking shit.

his/14991509.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991509
+Post your favourite female warrior from history
+--- 14991523
+> in b4 spy
+intelligence gathering is war
+--- 14991557
+>>14991509 (OP)
+--- 14993448
+not letting this die for a religious/haploshitter thread
+--- 14993505
+>>14991523
+you only like her because she was hot. pic rel is probably the best female spy (that we know of).
+--- 14993707
+>>14991523
+If you're going to post a spy, at least post a female spy who was also a fighter.
+--- 14993711
+>>14993505
+that looks like a tranny
+--- 14993736
+>>14991509 (OP)
+>Lyudmila Pavlichenko
+>Soviet sniper with 309 kills
+An actual badass and not just someone overhyped from having a vagina.
+--- 14993743
+>>14991523
+Would.
+--- 14993749
+>>14993707
+Also would.
+--- 14993764
+>>14993711
+that looks like an inexplicably average German women. you terminally online freaks would be surprised to know what a lot of women really looked like before cosmetics became a common commodity.
+--- 14993881
+>>14993707
+wew
+--- 14993890
+>>14993711
+German women look like trannies.

his/14991525.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991525
+What does /his/ think of reconstruction of previously lost sites and objects for the better upstanding of it. 
+Pic related is from a group of train autists rebuilding a train from the 1930s in order to show it off to future generations
+--- 14991565
+I approve. I particularly like the post-war work done on Auschwitz.
+--- 14991629
+>>14991525 (OP)
+All the money that went into that retarded abomination could have been used to improve roads, but instead commie subhumans wasted it on a vanity project which supports no one but subhumans and niggers
+--- 14992143
+>>14991525 (OP)
+I think it depends on the object being reconstructed and which time period is chosen for the reconstruction. 
+A good example is the newly reconstruced Berlin Palace, which current eastern facade has been built in a bare modern style, over the historically accurate baroque style. The whole story of the eastern side is really interesting as the existing eastern side was not renovated in the classicist manner one would associate with the Hohenzollern palace; thus it remained laregly unchanged even into the 20th century.
+Here the the question stands why the eastern side was not reconstructed in the original manner, as it would be a stark contrast to the classical "prussian" image of the palace.
+--- 14992148
+>>14991629
+>you have to spend your money according to my will
+Ok pinko
+--- 14992152
+Here a model of the eastern side
+--- 14992162
+And here a photography.
+--- 14992180
+>>14991525 (OP)
+
+T1s are cringe
+
+Build a new New York Central Hudson goddamnit.
+--- 14992520
+The problem with reconstructing sites is that you can end up destroying or "tainting" part of the original construction that's useful for archeological research: 
+
+The moment you dig into something or deconstruct it, you lose the context of how it was built and what was positioned where relative to other things, so unless you're documenting it as you go you're losing information. And researchers are hesitant to take the plunge if it's not going to leave a lot of the site untouched because they don't want to disturb everything now in the present when in 10 or 50 or 100 years we may have additional technologies or methods that could get more useful observations out of doing it.
+
+That's why, say, it was a lot more common for sites to see signifcant reconstructive work done on them in Mesoamerica in the early 20th century then it is now: People weren't as concerned with provenance and methodology then as they are now, and sure enough some structures like the Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan or the Great Pyramid of Cholula or the Temple of Kukulkan at Chichen itza have some speculatory or outright wrong elements to their reconstruction as a result.
+
+I do think it's annoying and frustrating that such reconstructions went as far as they did but still don't have paint and show the bare masonry or structural fill. If the exterior is already a lost cause as far as dating and archeological context they may as well go the extra mile and cover it in stucco and paint to show how they would have looked fully painted in their heyday. 
+
+I also think it would be cool if, assuming it doesn't cause humidity issues, you could build a protective "shell" around structures which is in the shape of how it originally looked and is fully painted. Like after the roof collapsed over the House of the Eagles and the Templo Mayor in Mexico City it'd be neat if it was a life sized, pyramid shaped roof that was fully painted. That or using VR headsets, etc.
+--- 14992572
+>>14992520
+
+You can always rebuild it, but not at the original site.
+--- 14992587
+>>14991525 (OP)
+>>14992180
+It fascinates me how there are at least 2 train autists on this board and they both hate each other because they simp for 2 railroads that no longer exist and hated each other
+--- 14992734
+>>14992587
+
+I don't hate OP or the PRR, I just hate T1s. I like K4s, GG1s, and even the early Metroliners strangely enough, but the T1s were butt-ugly and they simply weren't very good engines,.
+--- 14992947
+>>14992572
+Yeah, but for truly monumental structures that's not realistic
+
+They did that for the Rosalila temple at Copan, see pic, but I'm not a fan of the replica because the paint finish they used looiks sort of ugly and isn't accurate, the paint used on the actual structure had reflective flakes mixed in so it would have been glittery and metallic
+--- 14994000
+>>14992734
+What are your thoughts on the S1
+--- 14994073
+>>14991525 (OP)
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw [Embed]

his/14991542.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,59 @@
+-----
+--- 14991542
+If you have no food or money, why cant you steal?
+--- 14991669
+I'm not stealing, I'm sharing, sharing other people's stuff with me
+--- 14991681
+>>14991542 (OP)
+It's a sin
+--- 14991695
+>>14991542 (OP)
+Because God provides. If you aren't relying on God you go to hell, accept Jesus today before it is too late.
+--- 14991703
+>>14991669
+Sharing is good, some reason modern society hates sharing.
+--- 14991708
+>>14991542 (OP)
+It's less than perfect.
+--- 14991773
+Man does not live by bread alone, but every word that comes from the mouth of God.
+
+This man has the means to fill his hunger, yet has done nothing to earn his own bread. Why would he be trusted with spiritual matters if he can't be trusted with doing what the animals are capable of doing?
+
+You will know a tree by its fruit. Many people convince themselves that they have discovered the truth, yet inwardly they are ravenous wolves. They will act out of fear of death, thinly disguised as some other reason or motivation. Survival for it's own sake has no love.
+
+If he dies without bitterness in his heart, because his only choices were thievery or starvation, then this will be a righteous man who performed no unkind act and will sit at the master's table.
+--- 14991851
+>>14991542 (OP)
+>what are alms
+--- 14993226
+>>14991542 (OP)
+Because the greater virtue would be to sacrifice yourself. If you're willing to do act x under the justification of survival - then you're no good.
+--- 14993245
+>>14993226
+It's a conscious act. Every conscious act is one that flies in the face of how one feels - or is lead to behave in this world. 
+
+Because that's what sacrifice is.
+--- 14993259
+>>14993245
+Believe me - I get the irony. 
+Wasting time here on 4-chan.
+--- 14993444
+>>14991542 (OP)
+8th commandment. God HIMSELF told you not to steal, your retarded excuse isn't enough. Go dig up some worms or something and eat them instead.
+--- 14994020
+>>14991542 (OP)
+You can. Theft is actually not a sin.
+--- 14994090
+>>14991542 (OP)
+Proverbs 6:30-31
+>Men do not despise a thief, if he steal to satisfy his soul when he is hungry
+>But if he be found, he shall restore sevenfold; he shall give all the substance of his house.
+--- 14994136
+>>14991542 (OP)
+if you legaiize it people will stretch their definition of need. also if you just help yourself you just push for selfihness in 2 ways:
+>not worrying about the needs of others
+>never asking for help
+it kills the fabric of society by economic and social death. no incentive to improve your life either.
+people usually don't starve in rich countries because associations/fundations/churches distribute food and the homeless are also subject to financial help from the state in many places.
+if you're poor in a poor country and really are literally starving then why not, exceptionally. but asking for help usually is more productive.

his/14991707.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991707
+where he claims ancient Ethiopians were "the whitest white people as white as modern Swedes" or something to that effect.
+--- 14991714
+>>14991707 (OP)
+Not history.
+Not humanities.
+Go back.
+--- 14991791
+>>14991707 (OP)
+Dinarized hallstat pheno
+--- 14991857
+>>14991707 (OP)
+Sspehr is a dirty kike
+--- 14991908
+>>14991791
+>>14991707 (OP)
+Who is that
+--- 14991967
+>>14991857
+>A Jew who spouts White supremacist talking points
+WHAT'S GOING ON?
+--- 14992028
+>>14991967
+They have a lot of advanced psyops that involve the utilization of nonlinear models. I've been saying this shit for ages. It's worse now with data mining capabilities.
+--- 14992075
+>>14992028
+What would be the aim of this specific psyop?Whites who lean right are the most likely to be Jew wary and are also the ones most likely to already hold the racialist views Sepehr espouses on history, so what is the profit?
+--- 14992087
+>>14992075
+Check out Christopher Jon Bjerknes.
+Jews don't care about anything but consolidating their wealth and fulfilling Messianic prophecies. At least 1/4th of the top rank NS were Jews themselves. They play with both extremes to fulfill Messianic prophecies and more. 
+Some of the biggest promoters of antisemitism and Nordicism have likewise been Jews.
+They are the architects of both the left and right.
+--- 14992315
+>>14992087
+Bjerknes is borderline nuts. What is it you think Robert is trying to accomplish if you think he is controlled op?
+--- 14992454
+>>14991707 (OP)
+Gotchu, senpai.
+--- 14992526
+>>14992454
+Thanks.
+--- 14992549
+>>14991967
+Jews invented transgenderism yet the anti trans movement is led by jews like Ben Shapiro and Chaya Raychik.
+>WHAT'S GOING ON?
+They want to control everything so they control discourse and your own thinking. Dr. Pierce once noted that even though 90% of the anti gun lobby figures are jewish, they also founded some astroturfed pro gun organization and made sure it had "jews" in their name. Needless to say, they're all bad. They will slowly introduce kikery into the discourse while pretending to be the "good guys", look at jews like Bronze Age Pervert who keep promoting homosexuality and Trump while pretending to be Aryan fascists, or kikes like Moldbug who come out against "equality" and "communism" and then want us to adopt some judaic theocracy ruled by kikes and faggots. They will also get boosted by the establishment media while pretending they're enemies.
+Once you notice it it's impossible to stop noticing.
+--- 14992558
+>>14992075
+>>14992028
+Even aside form that, he is kind of a gate keeper and keeps people going round and round instead of letting them progress into the esoteric on their own.
+--- 14992586
+>>14992558
+Nah I am bodhi mantra and have been researching this stuff for 20 years and also have a minor in anthropology myself and most of his stuff is right on the money and the stuff that I disagree with is negligible and insignificant really. There is no angle here, at last not one he has revealed. You can't just say "reeeeee jew so controlled op!" It doesn't work like that bruh
+--- 14992595
+>>14992586
+You're a kike yourself
+--- 14992607
+>>14992586
+I didn't say "reeeeee jew so controlled op!". I said he is a gatekeeper.
+--- 14992608
+>>14992595
+HAHAHAHA, exactly what I expected from a mouth breather like you. btw his dad was jewish. not his mother which means he isnt jewish bv their own rules so w/e. You are for an absolute certainty a stone cold retard however
+--- 14992611
+>>14992586
+>A wild Jew appears.
+--- 14992620
+>>14992607
+gatekeeping what?
+
+
+>>14992611
+take your meds and take a nappy, adults are talking right now
+--- 14992634
+>>14992454
+>Kush was as white as Sweden.
+Must be why the ancient Ethiopians were consistently described and depicted as being the blackest set of people on the planet and why the etymology of the words 'Kush" and "Ethiopia" relate to black or very dark skin.
+--- 14992647
+>>14992620
+He repeats the same thing over and over again. I haven't seen him progress or give pointers beyond basic stuff. This hooks people into stuff that is true, but only in a limited value.
+--- 14992655
+>>14992620
+>It used deflect
+--- 14992661
+>>14992454
+Kek. People like this guy, or ironically people like Afrocentrism’s, just make their people look inferior by virtue of either being consistently conquered or easily replaced.
+--- 14992668
+>>14992608
+Fuck off Robert
+--- 14992671
+>>14992647
+>He repeats the same thing over and over again
+There is only so much you can really tell people about how history and academia is pozzed, especially on jewtube. He gives sources, what else do you expect him to do call for a NatSoc revolution?
+--- 14992685
+>>14992671
+I don't expect a NatSoc revolution. I also don't expected people being hooked on the mere tip of truth to be a good thing either.
+--- 14992692
+>>14992685
+>tip
+So what exactly do you think the base is and what do you expect this dude to do about it kek
+--- 14992704
+>>14992685
+If robert is just the tip name a source that takes a "deep dive" kek. He goes as close tot he edge as you possibly can on jewtube imo. I am open to hear your logic on this however, but you dont seem to be coming to logical conclusions
+--- 14992710
+>>14992692
+I haven't gotten to the base, but I have moved on from the shore/tip. I don't expect him to do this for a living. This is borederline Alexander of Abonoteichus tier behavior.
+--- 14992725
+>>14992704
+Looking for a "source that takes a "deep dive"" is a problem. Wanting to be spoonfed, and getting addicted to baby's first redpill isn't going to take the addict anywhere. His loyal viewers stick year after year, listening to the same thing without moving on.
+--- 14992741
+>>14992725
+>>14992710
+you are not a reasonable person, these are not reasonable comments. you seem to think some dude making anthropology videos is supposed to be the messiah of ..... idk what.
+--- 14992756
+>>14992741
+>you seem to think some dude making anthropology videos is supposed to be the messiah of ..... idk what.
+No, that is projection. I don't expect a messiah. I expect temporary teachers who don't keep their students for years on end. It ends up like a stagnant cult. His own cultists treat him as someone next to a messiah. Your lack of seeing reason in finding the truth for itself instead of regurgitating the same thing over and over is due to your own attachment.
+--- 14992775
+>>14992756
+>that is projection
+ROFL, how the fuck could this possibly be projection? Do you understand what projection is? You are a legit retard. You could said that from jump and saved me the time of engaging with you
+--- 14992803
+>>14992775
+You see a non-existent requirement of someone needing to be a messiah in my post. It is obviously not there, yet you are compelled to say it. You have been following him for so long that you have subconsciously begun to see him as your savior figure, and validate what little he says with what you have learned. Spending so much time about so little in favor of someone is next to seeing him as a messiah. Now you obviously do not like such a notion, so you cast it aside, hate it, and project it onto someone else who doesn't see the notion as necessary/ doesn't have a positive or negative view of it. That is your attachment.
+--- 14992842
+>>14992803
+>You see a non-existent requirement of someone needing to be a messiah in my post
+This has nothing to do with what projection means .....
+
+Last (YOU)
+--- 14992864
+>>14992842
+Your ego denies things about yourself that it doesn't like and attributes them to me. I never said anything about a messiah or a perfect leader, and yet you saw this non-existent thing in what I said. You are too unstable to hold a proper conversation with.
+--- 14992881
+>>14992549
+So you're basically saying we never stood a chance.
+--- 14992887
+>>14992864
+>goes into full blown psychotic fan fics about people he knows nothing about
+Take your meds psycho
+--- 14993046
+No one would care about Robert Sepehr if he came out with darker phenotypes.
+--- 14993072
+whites are literally the only race who have demonstrated the ability to build and maintain complex, multi-story structures. 
+
+ancient egypt, ancient china, the aztecs, etc... all were built by whites. can someone explain why those ancient civilizations collapsed? can someone explain why browns werent able to top their ancient strucutres?. you'd think that if the natives actually built those things, they'd be able to maintain them and build more, right?
+--- 14993120
+>>14992887
+You need meds more than me. I have been thoroughly evaluated and there is no psychological irregularity/mental illness with me.
+--- 14993252
+>>14993072
+None of those civilizations were created by whites but they were eventually overrun by them once their greatness waned. That's where the collapse happened. Whites only legacy is that of inheriting and then whitewashing. I owe you nothing. Now fuck off.
+--- 14993268
+>>14993252
+What is your race?

his/14991786.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,165 @@
+-----
+--- 14991786
+Name one bad thing Satan ever did in the Bible except expose God for the insecure, malevolent scumbag that he is.
+--- 14991848
+>>14991786 (OP)
+Satan isn't God's rival. God has no rivals. Duh. He's God.
+Satan is YOUR rival. The only thing cares about is proving God shouldn't have made (You). God's the only who has your back, and yet you're seething.
+--- 14991865
+>>14991848
+God shouldn't have made hominid creatures with barbarous primal instincts that can't be overcome, I agree with Satan. God must be a fucking moron.
+--- 14991882
+The worst thing Satan did was try and pick a losing fight with God. He and his ilk and all those he leads astray will burn in the lake of fire.
+--- 14991937
+>>14991882
+Will all the Neanderthals and Australopithecus also burn?
+--- 14991969
+>>14991882
+>pick a losing fight with God.
+If God is all powerful why doesn't God just snap his fingers and Satan would vanish?
+--- 14991991
+>>14991865
+What hominin is that?
+--- 14991993
+>>14991969
+He will in 2 more weeks (millennia) and throw him in the pit, then let him back out after 1 more millennia to do it all over again, according to Revelation.
+--- 14991998
+>>14991937
+Source of this reconstruction?
+--- 14992000
+>>14991969
+>ADAM!
+>EVE!
+>COME OUT FROM BEHIND THOSE TREES!
+>I KNOW YOU'RE THERE. I CAN SMELL YOUR FEAR!
+--- 14992009
+>>14991937
+Australopithecus was chimp-tier intellectually, possibly even dumber.
+--- 14992012
+>>14991969
+There are still people repenting and finding God. A day and a thousand years and all that.
+
+>>14992000
+>I can smell you
+https://youtu.be/FDQx-guzx2s [Embed]
+--- 14992018
+>>14991937
+Do you have more archaic reconstructions?
+--- 14992066
+>>14991937
+Why should they? Did they consciously choose for themselves to be their own arbiters of mercy or justice? Or did they only act by animal instinct?
+
+But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.
+
+>>14991969
+Obviously God could defeat Satan through power alone. Just as he could force you to obey him. But God is love. God created everything and everyone out of love. God's will is to reconcile people to Himself. He wishes to be their kind and loving father. Wouldn't be very convincing if you didn't have free will, would it?
+--- 14992122
+>>14992066
+>God is Love
+
+1 John 4:8
+The one who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
+
+
+>What is Love?
+
+1 Corinthians 13:4-7
+Love is patient, love is kind, it is not jealous; love does not brag, it is not arrogant. It does not act disgracefully, it does not seek its own benefit; it is not provoked, does not keep an account of a wrong suffered, it does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; it keeps every confidence, it believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
+
+
+>God is Not Love
+
+>Love is kind
+Psalm 137:9 How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your infants against the cliff.
+
+>Love is not jealous
+Exodus 20:5 You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God
+
+>Love does not brag
+Isaiah 44:7 ‘I am the first, and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me. Who is like Me? Let him call out and declare it.
+
+>Love does not seek its own benefit
+Isaiah 43:7 Everyone who is called by My name, and whom I have created for My glory, whom I have formed, even whom I have made.”
+
+>Love is not provoked
+Deuteronomy 9:7 Remember, do not forget how you provoked Yahweh your God to wrath in the wilderness
+
+>Love does not keep an account of wrong suffered
+Revelation 20:12 And the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
+
+>Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness
+Isaiah 45:7 I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.
+--- 14992123
+>>14992066
+>Wouldn't be very convincing if you didn't have free will, would it?
+Love is not coercion though. Love me or I will punish you for all eternity - Is something a psycho would say. Being forced to love someone is fucked up
+--- 14992138
+>>14992122
+>nooo you can't just flood the earth and heckin kill my entire familyarinooo
+--- 14992156
+>>14992138
+I thought you Christians believed in "objective moral values".
+So murder is bad, but okay if the big boss in the sky does it?
+--- 14992194
+>>14992156
+You don't seem to understand just how serious are God's laws and commandments. You'll complain about injustice in the world, yet you won't stop sinning. You'll complain about injustice in the world, yet you complain about judgement against the wicked.
+
+Do you know the state of the world before the flood? 
+>5. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
+>6. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
+
+And in Sodom, there weren't even 10 righteous and all of the city, both old and young, from every quarter, came out to gang rape the angels of God. Let me guess, you think God destroying Sodom is "murder" rather than justice too?
+--- 14992220
+>>14992194
+God's fault, shouldn't have made Adam with a propensity towards eating forbidden fruit.
+--- 14992239
+>>14992220
+The original sin isn't evil or unwanted, it's just the introduction of imperfection that allows adversity and the things you now tend to complain about like cancer.
+--- 14992282
+>>14991786 (OP)
+You mean Good?
+--- 14992398
+>>14992123
+No one forces you to do anything. If you live your life as a sinner and reject mercy, you will earn justice. Don't say you've never sinned - that would be a lie.
+
+We have no points of pride. We have no things to love for their own sake. We are only stewards. We are called to leave them in better condition than they were given to us. I was a baby, a teenager, now a man. By God's will, I may become elderly. Who am I? What is my personality? What skills and attributes should I celebrate? The answer is none. I am a chess piece who has been moved by the chessmaster. There is no glory in the chesspiece who fills his role according to the rules. The glory belongs to the master who has achieved victory.
+
+>>14992156
+Who are my enemies? No one. Who is OK to harbor bitterness against? No one. When should justice and revenge be sought? Never. If I were to do these things, it would be exactly the same as a criminal who condemns criminals, which is dull hypocrisy. God will have mercy on who he will have mercy.
+
+It is not my place to provide mercy or justice. These things don't belong to me. But I know that God will give mercy freely and perform justice where required.
+
+>>14992122
+Do you think God has someone to be jealous of? Is there someone else who can claim the glory? Do you believe that you can stack up enough merit to pull a fast one on God and achieve paradise without Him? Do you believe that people who choose judgement won't be judged? God has told you these things for your benefit, not His. God has no particular need for you.
+--- 14992426
+>>14991786 (OP)
+Plunged scores of angels and the entire human race into wars, lies, sin, and death, followed by an eternity in the fires of Hell.
+--- 14992535
+>>14992426
+Just EAT IT (eat it), EAT IT (eat it)
+Open up your mouth and feed it!
+
+That religion is so fucking dumb. For people with the minds of children.
+--- 14992543
+>>14991865
+You sound like the kind of guy on the precipice of Luciferianism.
+--- 14992681
+>>14991865
+>can't be overcome
+lol
+--- 14992707
+>>14991786 (OP)
+god was a pretty cool guy for creating this to BTFO christcucks eternally
+https://imgur.com/a/KS8zlUy
+--- 14992746
+>>14992239
+>good bad
+>bad good
+--- 14994046
+>>14992746
+Only exist dependent on a goal. If you want to go forward then going backwards is bad. The implicit goal is always survival and reproduction which cancer is bad for.
+--- 14994080
+God is a good God. God is beyond any label because God is just God. Satan is the reason for all of your problems. In the Bible, he makes the woman rebel which means the downfall for the man. All things work for my good so that means Satan also but spiritual babies cannot receive this.
+--- 14994433
+>>14994080
+It is inescapably true that God made evil since he made all things. Therefore God is the root of all evil. Given that Satan is the moral inverse of God, that would mean that he is a source of good.

his/14991838.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991838
+Stop hating white people
+We created civilization
+--- 14991846
+>>14991838 (OP)
+>Stop hating white people
+Racism is a good thing. Go back to r.ddit.
+>We created civilization
+Pretty sure agriculture and animal husbandry weren't invented by Whites.
+
+Don't bother replying. Your only response will be something like, "you're wrong because I hate nonwhites".
+--- 14991855
+Your jew masters will ruin my life if I dont hate you
+--- 14991863
+>>14991838 (OP)
+You're green though
+--- 14991866
+>>14991846
+You're wrong because i improved your agriculture.
+--- 14991893
+>>14991838 (OP)
+Kek
+--- 14991899
+>>14991838 (OP)
+nigger kike
+--- 14991907
+I AM A WHITE MAN, HATE ME MORE, I HAVEN'T SEEN PEACE FOR 4000 YEARS, HATE ME MORE GIVE ME ANOTHER WAR
+--- 14991916
+I mean it's kinda true though.
+--- 14991919
+>>14991838 (OP)
+The only thing that would save the white race from extinction is for most (or all) white women to have at least 2 white kids while young, but because they're white women, that is never going to happen.
+Enjoy your decline.
+--- 14991942
+>>14991919
+Enjoy the death of humanity and progress
+--- 14991943
+>>14991838 (OP)
+you deserve more than just hate
+--- 14991947
+>>14991943
+--- 14991956
+>>14991943
+What did you invent chang?
+--- 14991975
+>>14991942
+kek You white people consider cut off genitals and easier ways kys and your prosperity as progress. 
+If we're supposed to miss whites, you're making it difficult for the rest of us.
+--- 14991997
+>>14991975
+You're terminally online, plus I don't really understand your broken English.
+--- 14992010
+>>14991838 (OP)
+But we didn't really. Look up Uruk and go from there. Civilisation was born out of plenty. There came a time when there was enough food, resources and defensive capabilities and as a result it gave people time for religious and social pursuits hence the first cities were born. This happened in the middle east and Mesopotamia
+--- 14992017
+>>14992010
+only europeans matter
+--- 14992020
+>>14991975
+>being so angry you can't even speak english properly
+A bunch of subhumans your kind is, a bunch of subhumans you will stay.
+>muh trannies
+you have far more trannies than us lol
+--- 14992024
+>>14991838 (OP)
+--- 14992027
+>>14991947
+>>14991956
+we don't have short term memory, you're going to pay
+--- 14992032
+>>14992010
+Then you died of miscegenation?
+--- 14992046
+>>14992017
+Europe adopted the idea of cities and civilisation from the Phonecians and cities such as Byblos, and Tyre were founded and then the Greeks went from there. Athens was the first megalopolis of Europe. Even Rome was a purpose built city based on the idea of Babylon and other metropolis type cities like Athens.
+--- 14992049
+>>14991997
+>>14992020
+Nothing you say matters because no one likes you white people. One could say 'only god could save you now', but it doesn't seem he's interested either, just like your white women.
+--- 14992058
+>>14992032
+I did not but nearly every successful "mega city" in history has had a migrant population of 30% or more. These cities grew on trade and exchanges of ideas and technologies from all over the world. Great port cities like Byblos and cities on major trade routes were the ones that grew and became great civilisations because of this
+--- 14992062
+>>14992046
+>the idea of cities
+lmao
+--- 14992064
+>>14991838 (OP)
+Civilization was made in the Levant and Egypt and by brown and black men carrying haplogroup E1b.
+--- 14992065
+>>14992049
+So you're basically a liar because a lot of people likes me and my race, that's why they want to live near me.
+--- 14992068
+Not even Japan and China are civillized.
+--- 14992069
+>>14992058
+citation is needed
+--- 14992077
+>>14992064
+WE
+--- 14992079
+>>14992065
+Nah, they want to replace you. You're just in the way.
+--- 14992080
+>>14992058
+He's lying, Tokyo/Edo was the biggest city in the world for a century or two and it didn't have a single foreigner in it.
+--- 14992090
+>>14992077
+ARE KINGZ
+--- 14992102
+>>14992080
+I'm not talking about settled states, I didn't phrase it correctly but I mean the origin of civilisation and the first cities and how they became what they were. 
+
+It's all relative as well. Athens had a huge range of "migrants" coming to trade and such but migrants in this context is those from other Greek city states and perhaps slightly further afield.
+
+I don't mean ethnicity here.
+--- 14992103
+>>14992065
+>a lot of people likes me and my race, that's why they want to live near me.
+Not your women though and if they do, it's not enough to save you.
+--- 14992104
+Tell me why we shouldn't exterminate non whites?
+--- 14992109
+>>14992079
+they run away from their own societies and genetics, that's why they racemix so much and even offered their women to the white men the first time we came down there, i think you love me more than how much you pretend to hate me
+--- 14992113
+>>14992104
+Because that won't help your replacement rates.
+Japan has the same issue with few non-japanese people.
+--- 14992115
+>>14992103
+My women? They lust for someone that is not an eternal generational loser.
+--- 14992119
+>>14992104
+White women would commit suicide without the BBC. 
+
+No BBC = No White women = No White people
+--- 14992120
+>>14991838 (OP)
+White people are just in the way.
+--- 14992126
+>>14992115
+>eternal generational losers
+Like white men apparently
+--- 14992132
+>>14992119
+>no hstory or any personal quality to be proud of
+>start talking about penises and bragging about being a bioweapon against any intelligent civilization on earth
+pottery
+--- 14992134
+What are you contributions africans, americans, and asians?
+--- 14992147
+>>14992126
+No, like negroids not doing anything meaningful except being slaves for hundreds of years and still live in misery even when they start winning, not experiencing strong industrial development despint population growth and fucking like rabbits.
+
+A race so cursed by god himself he doesn't even exterminate them to end their misery.
+--- 14992182
+>>14992068
+far lower crime rates than the west, that's including white numbers
+--- 14992184
+>>14992182
+And your inventions?
+--- 14992192
+>>14992184
+Yes, and there's our inventions to consider as well
+--- 14992202
+>>14992192
+Are you a distant brother?
+--- 14992229
+>>14992184
+5000 years of history
+--- 14992394
+>>14991838 (OP)
+--- 14992402
+>>14992064
+>Egypt
+HAHAHAHAHA
+--- 14992419
+>>14992064
+>Levant
+AHAHAHAHA
+>bro I swear we made civilization we just forgot how which is why only white people can make advanced civilizations for the last 5000 years but I swear we did it first, we just forgot because of raycisms and sheeeit
+HAHAHAHAHA
+--- 14992424
+>>14992402
+You can't be European if you're Egyptian.
+
+European means Europe
+--- 14992425
+>>14992402
+>Ramses 3: E1b1a 
+OH NO NO NO NO
+--- 14992432
+>>14992402
+>>14992419
+WE
+--- 14992437
+>>14992419
+Arabs have been white for more than a hundred years
+--- 14992484
+>>14992419
+HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
+--- 14992485
+>>14992432
+WERE AND STILL ARE WHITE
+
+yes, we are civilization builders and you are civilization destroyers
+--- 14992496
+>>14992402
+HAHAHAHA
+--- 14992503
+>>14992484
+>negroes in 100 years
+>look they found negro dna iN Colorado
+>WE WUZ THE FOUNDING FATHERS AND SHEEIT
+It would be sad if any other race said such stupid shit but you are negroes so people just expect you to say and think the most stupid shit imaginable
+--- 14992565
+>>14992503
+>malding cave monkey can't handle the fact that his ancestors were civilized by black men 
+lol
+--- 14992579
+>>14992503
+E1 is an Arab haplogroup and Hitler wasn't white or at least one of his ancestors got blacked
+--- 14992584
+>>14991838 (OP)
+define White ? 
+Are Ashkenazi Jews White ?
+--- 14992652
+>>14992584
+Jews are descendants of Hittites and Amorites, which both are white. In other words, Ashkenazi Jews are the standard of what it means to be genetically Jewish.
+The other jews are brown because of Arabs raping their gene pool.
+--- 14992683
+>>14991838 (OP)
+
+Your punishment must be more severe.
+--- 14992727
+>>14992394
+--- 14992742
+>>14992565
+>his ancestors were civilized by black men
+Black men couldn't even build a civilization of their own never mind civilize anyone else.
+--- 14992812
+>>14991838 (OP)
+>We created civilization
+Who exactly? Do elaborate
+--- 14993014
+>>14991846
+>Pretty sure agriculture and animal husbandry weren't invented by Whites.
+neither of these are "Civilization" 
+They are "achievements" tribal primitives could pull off, in fact they did.
+--- 14993044
+>>14991838 (OP)
+Literally false. Though I will agree that hatred of people for their race is retarded. I’ve met good whites people and bad white people. I’ve met good blacks people and bad blacks people. Ditto with other races.
+--- 14993062
+China and India both MOGGED Europe in the past
+--- 14993090
+>>14993062
+>China and India both MOGGED Europe in the past
+China did for a time. India? Not convinced.
+--- 14993102
+>>14991838 (OP)
+>non-whites start asserting themselves to a minimal extent
+>WTF this is white genocide!!!
+Why are ytbois such fragile pussies?
+--- 14993377
+>>14991838 (OP)
+White people have fallen so far from their former glory. Can you really blame me for not liking you?
+--- 14993409
+>>14992027
+you really want to start a conflict with the people who have never lost a war to you?
+--- 14993425
+>>14992126
+>>14992103
+>>14992049
+>>14992079
+If a race were truly superior, 
+It's women would be the most desired
+It's Societal standard would be the standard for all society everywhere
+Everyone would desire to live under its law
+Dwell amongst its people
+And it would be seen as a violation of human rights to be denied access to this group of Angelic beings
+It would gain no sympathy either.
+
+(You)r own admission states Whites are superior.
+Superiority breeds contempt.
+--- 14993430
+>>14992102
+>>14992058
+Mega cities are luxuries, they were never historical producers.
+>became civilizations
+those werent megacities.
+--- 14993441
+>>14992113
+We have no replacement issue, less non-Whites would allow Whites a more than sustainable economy even if you increased their own non-producers by 25%.
+Whites are so productive it is taking an aged population PLUS 150 million non-Whites who are net negatives economically to even dent their economic output and qol.
+--- 14993449
+As a white person, the longer I live in a city the more I grow a disdain for other white people. The people who behave the absolute worst in public tend to be awful mayo monkeys.
+--- 14993450
+>>14992119
+>living vicariously through the most aborted race
+--- 14993474
+Thank you white man for all the inventions you have provided for the world.
+--- 14993568
+>>14993425
+Nobody wants to live under Jewish oligarchical trannyism though. Everything you just stated was only true 50+ years ago.
+--- 14993599
+>>14993449
+>As a white person
+--- 14993612
+>>14993441
+Lmao the sheer delusion in this post.
+--- 14993643
+>>14991846
+Let's see how your brownoid ox-carts and grain jars hold up against my intercontinental ballistic missiles
+--- 14993657
+>>14992394
+Very astute and well expressed observation. I would also be envious of white people if I wasn't one myself, only the Chinese have enough self-respect to acknowledge their "humiliation" and give an entire century of their history a name in this regard
+--- 14993666
+>>14993425
+Nah, if a race were truly superior it would reproductively outcompete other races. whites are dying off because they rather die on toilets covered in fake gold (while non-white will inherent their stuff) than be surround by friends and their biological families.

his/14991856.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991856
+People actually call it that.
+Wow, some noble women-owned 40% of the land, that makes it pro-feminist.
+Think not
+--- 14991868
+It´s true, it was insanely pussywhipped
+--- 14991869
+it probably was since sparta fucking sucked. It's was a meme state.
+the Romans literally turned it into the disneyworld of the antiquity once they conquered that shithole
+--- 14991932
+>>14991856 (OP)
+The spartan heiresses controlled the gerousia and thus had the final say in Spartan politics.
+--- 14992059
+Trying to apply modern politics and agendas to societies over two thousand years old is retarded and the idiots that spout this crap and circulate these ideas into pop culture should be shamed into shutting the fuck up. Spartan women held more influence in their state moreso then their other Greek contemporaries, but this is because of the unique nature of Spartan society where male citizens were devoted to war, so women taking charge in domestic affairs was something done out of necessity. It wasn't because Spartans decided women deserve more rights. The role of women in Spartan society was also unlike modern feminist sentiments; A woman's role was still focused around birthing and raising healthy children, she wouldn't be allowed to just do whatever she wanted.
+--- 14992141
+>>14991869
+Explain
+--- 14992155
+>>14992059
+The world is full of clowns. Nobody deserves anything, not even the skin on his bones
+--- 14992174
+>>14992059
+But what would Sparta's take on BLM have been?
+--- 14993187
+>>14991856 (OP)
+>Ywn be a slave in Ancient Sparta
+>Ywn get rode by Spartan mommy amazon-style while the wind caresses your bodies and stars look over you 
+>Ywn bust a fat load while she chokes you
+Why even live, bros?
+--- 14993199
+>>14992174
+Spartan enslaved the helotes.
+
+>>14993187
+You would work in the salt mines until you die, a year later.
+--- 14993213
+>>14991856 (OP)
+faggots actually worshipped Aphrodite Areia, do you honestly believe they wouldn't suck on the clits of women like the Easterners did the representatives of Ishtar?
+--- 14993228
+>>14991856 (OP)
+>Sparta the pro-feminist state
+Just like Mycenae? Weird
+--- 14993258
+>>14991856 (OP)
+This was because they believed domestic life made men weak, not because they worshipped women, they infact saw women are marked inferiors to men and only valuable for their social role of spurring men forth to war and glory.
+Women were made to wear veils, except for beautiful young girls who were forced to go around without any covering to attract a man.
+>>14991869
+no, they were fantastic, the Spartans were renowned for their sophisticated martial system and many of the early Eurypontids were more learned than the Athenians in Greek /deeplore/.
+The Romans built seats around their agoge training facility, they did not make it a disney world.
+>>14991932
+no they did not.
+>>14992059
+true.
+>>14992174
+They would not tolerate weakness.
+>>14993213
+Europeans arent effete lesbians larping as men
+--- 14994560
+So true!
+Not only Ancient Greece was full of fags, but also feminists!!!!
+--- 14994574
+Where to learn more about Sparta, Spartan customs and interactions with non-spartans?
+--- 14994600
+>>14991856 (OP)
+Sparta was actually criticized by the Athenians because they trained their men to be warriors, but not their women.

his/14991898.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991898
+Whats the /his/torical equivalent of this?
+--- 14991900
+>>14991898 (OP)
+The biography of anon.
+--- 14991929
+>>14991898 (OP)
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_(717%E2%80%93718)
+--- 14991980
+the UN
+--- 14992003
+>>14991898 (OP)
+Niggers and spics claiming that colonialism was necessary for industrialization
+--- 14992203
+>>14991898 (OP)
+Unironically the JFK presidency
+--- 14992380
+>>14991898 (OP)
+French retardation at the Siege of Candia.
+--- 14992508
+>>14991898 (OP)
+Jesus Christ post crucifixion
+--- 14993283
+>>14992380
+>show up to besieged city with men, ammo, and warships
+>flagship blows up due to an accident
+>get demoralized, leave with all your men and provisions, leaving the Venetians to face the Ottomans alone
+What pricks. I hate the French
+--- 14993338
+>>14991898 (OP)
+Women retirement.
+--- 14993885
+The magna carta
+--- 14993891
+France "civilising" the colonies
+--- 14994585
+>>14991898 (OP)
+Appeasement
+--- 14994696
+>>14991900
+;_;
+
+Why do you hurt me so?

his/14991924.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991924
+History started when I was born and will end when I die.
+--- 14991933
+>>14991924 (OP)
+People will disagree not knowing this is the truth.
+--- 14991938
+>>14991924 (OP)
+Someone is writing your biography? Put me in the screencap.
+--- 14993786
+>>14991924 (OP)
+On a personal level this is completely accurate.
+--- 14993803
+>>14991924 (OP)
+History started with 
+Long ago all the elements were mixed together with one germ of life. This germ began to mix things around and around until the heavier part sank and the lighter part rose. A muddy sea that covered the entire earth was created. From this ocean grew a green shoot. It grew and grew until it reached the clouds and there it was tranformed into a god. Soon this god grew lonely and it began to create other gods. The last two gods it made, Izanagi anf Izanami, were the most remarkable.
+One day as they were walking along they looked down on the ocean and wondered what was beneath it. Izanagi thrust his staff into the waters and as he pulled it back up some clumps of mud fell back into the sea. They began to harden and grow until they became the islands of Japan.
+
+The two descended to these islands and began to explore, each going in different directions. They created all kinds of plants. When they met again they decided to marry and have children to inhabit the land. The first child Izanami bore was a girl of radiant beauty. The gods decided she was too beautiful to live in Japan, so they put her up in the sky and she became the sun. Their second daughter, Tsuki-yami, became the moon and their third and unruly son, Sosano-wo, was sentenced to the sea, where he creates storms.
+
+Later, their first child, Amaterasu, bore a son who became the emperor of Japan and all the emperors since then have claimed descent from him.
+--- 14993820
+>>14991924 (OP)
+Imagine all the people who died with uncertainty. Like Soviet statesmen who died a few years before the dissolution or wartime leaders who died before victory was certain.

his/14991950.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991950
+>BCE
+--- 14991968
+BC is an inaccurate label now because Jesus wasn't born year 0
+--- 14991972
+>AVC
+--- 14991982
+AD
+--- 14991990
+-/+
+--- 14991996
+>AH
+--- 14992863
+>>14991950 (OP)
+>Before Christ Era
+>>14991972
+>After Victory of Christ
+>>14991982
+After Birth of Christ
+>>14991990
+>-/+Christ
+>>14991996
+>After Holy Virgin Mary gave born Christ
+--- 14992872
+>>14992863
+AD = Anno Domini
+--- 14992891
+>>14992863
+AD already has christian significance, my schizo in Christ. It's anno Domini. Which means'in the year of the Lord'.
+--- 14992939
+>>14991972
+A fellow TRVE ROMAN I see, and is this not a fine year MMDCCLXXVI?
+--- 14993039
+>>14991950 (OP)
+Ah yes, the Common Era. The Era which is Common. Which started at the year of the... event.
+--- 14993055
+I want to go back to naming years after animals and shit, and not keeping track. Some small number of years ago was the year of the Wuhan bat.
+--- 14993100
+>first 3 months are called Wheezy, Sneezy, and Freezy
+--- 14993141
+>>14993100
+Actually faggot they’re called Türkmenbasy, Baydak, and Nowruz
+--- 14993191
+>>14991950 (OP)
+>BCE
+>years Before Christ Exemplar
+>CE
+>years of Christ Exemplar
+--- 14993509
+>>14991968
+Yeah but Christians love being wrong about everything.
+--- 14994835
+>>14991968
+Backwards Counting
+Ascending Dates

his/14991985.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991985
+Can the haploautists here shed some light on this topic?
+https://youtu.be/nflMVD3K4Sk [Embed]
+--- 14992008
+Europeans hair comes from living further north
+
+Monkeys have closer overall genetic similarity to blacks than to whites
+--- 14992016
+>>14991985 (OP)
+Did this topic really need 9 parts? Or they're all tiktoks?
+--- 14992022
+>>14991985 (OP)
+Aren't monkeys less violent than blacks?
+--- 14992025
+>>14992022
+--- 14992030
+>>14991985 (OP)
+40 seconds is all I could take. Insufferable cunt
+
+I'm not a racist btw. It has nothing to do with the matter at hand. He's just fucking annoying
+--- 14992133
+>>14991985 (OP)
+He's not wrong but, in all honesty, Vlad is the biggest clickbaiter I have ever had the displeasure of coming across. You'll see a video snippet of a much larger interview with a sensationalist title certain to pique your interest. You click on it and watch hoping to learn more but ultimately it amounts to a throwaway reference to something only vaguely reminiscent of the video's title.At best Vlad tries to badger the guest with jovial rib-poking follow up questions in hopes they'll give a more controversial answer.
+--- 14992149
+>>14992022
+Probably produced as many inventions as blacks too
+--- 14992164
+>>14992025
+Lmao
+--- 14992165
+>>14991985 (OP)
+That's pretty easy. 
+Blacks have thick lips monkeys have small lips. 
+Blacks have dark skin while monkeys have light skin.
+Blacks have coiled hair while monkeys have straight hair.
+Blacks have long legs and short torsos while monkeys have short legs and long torsos.
+Blacks have little body hair and monkeys have alot of body hair.
+Thus monkeys share more traits with whites than with blacks.
+--- 14992173
+>>14992022
+domestication of monkeys may result in space colonization unlike niggers, so probably
+--- 14992179
+>>14992165
+My AI has a different opinion.
+--- 14992188
+>>14992165
+Have you seen bonobos walking? They look like black people sneaking by.
+They have all the traits that you mentioned that black people have without the lip, which their skulls make up for.
+--- 14992190
+>>14992179
+Jej
+--- 14992193
+>>14992165
+Have you seen a sheboon fight another woman? They 100% fight like monkeys. literally just randomly jumping around swinging their arms.
+--- 14992205
+>muh hair muh lips
+--- 14992217
+the incels will take it as an insult. true intellectuals will realize that is a compliment.
+--- 14992218
+>>14991985 (OP)
+They hate him because he spoke the truth.
+--- 14992222
+>>14992205
+jewbros pretending to be blackbros... it's over
+--- 14992234
+why can't humans bite the face off their enemies?
+--- 14992237
+>>14991985 (OP)
+we all can see
+we just don't want to look
+--- 14992243
+>>14992218
+Chimps are terrible swimmers and their hair is kinky if you look at it closely. I refuse to believe someone didn't make this as ironic bait either way though.
+--- 14992254
+>>14992243
+You're right about the swimming thing but only occasionally will a primate may have frizzy hair.It's mostly straight.
+--- 14992258
+>>14991985 (OP)
+He's right. We have very thin lips, which is more similar to monkeys.
+--- 14992261
+>>14992258
+Speak for yourself, i have normal lips
+--- 14992289
+I always thought monkeys are pretty cool and the positive things blacks bring to the table relate to being a bit more connected to their animal side.
+But I've been scientifically proven wrong. I guess white people dominate even when it comes to the monkey thing, we just can't stop winning.
+--- 14992299
+>>14992289
+Monkeys are scary.
+
+They can tore off your arm like it is out of paper, they have 10x more strength than we do.
+--- 14992306
+Reject modernity
+Return to monkey
+--- 14992322
+so, white people have:
+- more hair than other races 
+- are more prone to getting lice
+- thinner lips
+- bigger ears
+
+black people have
+- a funny jawline
+- ????
+--- 14992324
+>>14992306
+the only sane way
+--- 14992331
+>>14992322
+You forgot that they also tend to be bow-legged with square torsos and long arms. Then there's the behavior.
+--- 14992345
+>>14992299
+I mean, that's pretty cool desu senpai.
+--- 14992348
+>>14992322
+--- 14992351
+>>14992299
+nah that's just chimps
+--- 14992422
+>>14992179
+That's because early datasets for recognizing people were only trained on whites. It had difficulty detecting darkerskinned individuals in general and would probably tell an Asian to open their eyes. 
+
+It'd be funny to think when the robot uprising comes that they'll only shoot white people because everyone else wasn't included in their training data.
+>>14992237
+Isn't this photo kind of disgenious because the black woman is looking upwards making her jaw look longer than it is.It would be better if they used her photo looking straight, also in the facial morph to the white woman, they forgot to add the huge nose.
+--- 14992830
+>even monkeys are more advanced than nogs
+JUST
+--- 14993069
+White Man vs an Italian, 1928, colorized.
+--- 14993084
+>>14992422
+Yes nigger, an AI with recurrent racist bias, associating blacks with gorillas because untrained to see the FEW differences between niggers and gorillas will probably shoot only whites after advancing past the singularity point where it perfectly understands who is a jungle nigger and who's a normal person.
+
+Cope more.
+--- 14993091
+>>14993069
+Why is the italian beating the white man?
+--- 14993094
+>>14991985 (OP)
+Africans have prognathism and simian brow ridges this is so ridiculous, theres no way he isnt aware of how stupid this is
+--- 14993112
+>>14992322
+>Where da wyt women at?!
+--- 14993119
+>>14991985 (OP)
+>>14992133
+He is wrong, there are millions of years of evolution between humans and monkeys, there is no human "closer to monkeys" in any meaningful sense. I assume they saw racists comparing black people to monkeys and thought "hurr I'll compare monkeys to whites". However this doesn't change the fact there are genetic differences between white people and black people with a significant effect on ability including intelligence.
+--- 14993131
+OOGA BOOGA GUNGA GINGA BONGO GOOGA
+--- 14993340
+>>>/sci/
+--- 14993355
+>>14992025
+average American vs average British
+--- 14993364
+>>14992030
+I agree completely.
+--- 14993394
+>>14991985 (OP)
+big talk from Sagan's catamite
+--- 14993420
+>>14991985 (OP)
+so he's saying whites came first?
+--- 14993805
+>mayomonkies itt alternating between "n-no you" and "w-well being a chimp isn't so bad anyways"
+--- 14994031
+>>14992322
+>- more hair than other races
+--- 14994076
+>>14993805
+Still miles better than being a nigger
+--- 14994096
+but big lips, dark skin, prognathism and a large nose are pre-human features?
+--- 14994571
+>>14992299
+Humans can kill another person or animal from throwing a fucking rock hard.
+
+Chimps may be strong but they pay for it in dexterity. Humans have nearly unmatched manual dexterity and fine muscle control.
+--- 14994664
+>>14991985 (OP)
+Whites are alien offspring.
+--- 14994668
+>>14992188
+What apes walk like Beavis and Butthead?

his/14991992.txt

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+-----
+--- 14991992
+>The Egyptian Greeks, also known as Egyptiotes (Greek: Αιγυπτιώτες), or simply Greeks in Egypt, are the ethnic Greek community from Egypt that has existed from the Hellenistic period until the aftermath of the Egyptian coup d'état of 1952, when most were forced to leave.
+--- 14992041
+HAHAHAH GET RECKED GREEKLINGS
+--- 14993099
+>>14991992 (OP)
+Fuck Nasser and fuck Arab Nationalism. Egypt would've unironically been like the Asian tigers, had it not been for the retardation of the freedom officers.

his/14992036.txt

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+-----
+--- 14992036
+Imagine being classmates with Hitler in the 1890s and then 40 years later he becomes the total ruler of your nation and drafts you to fight the entire world.
+
+This would really fuck with my head. It would render me schizo for the rest of my life.
+--- 14992071
+> would render me schizo for the rest of my life
+word
+--- 14992088
+>>14992036 (OP)
+Not really. You forget everything. It’d just be a small vignette you tell people at the bar. I have almost no memories earlier than 2 years ago.
+--- 14992110
+>>14992071
+imagine if they had a bromance hahah
+--- 14992129
+>>14992088
+You're a brainlet.
+
+Not only have I memories from everything beginning at age 3. I also remember how I felt during certain moments in my life.
+--- 14992135
+>>14992088
+This pretty much. I went to school with some people who became famous (in my country). Ok maybe sports stars and musicians are not the same level as a Führer but still my reaction is just "oh hey I went to school with that person!". I imagine for those people it would be kind of the same but more like "holy shit I went to school with him!"
+--- 14992580
+>>14992071
+hitler and wittgenstein linked up sneed it or feed it?
+--- 14992723
+>>14992071
+when an INFJ speaks....
+--- 14993246
+>>14992036 (OP)
+
+It is even more bizarre given how Hitler was likely to have ended up being a nobody vagabond for his entire life without WW1 or even a stray bullet may have killed him.
+--- 14993264
+>>14993246
+History is weird.
+Its was if it was his destiny.
+Similar to Napoleon, in his youth he was mocked for being a Corsican. No one would of imagined their destinies
+--- 14993277
+>>14992129
+fuck off boomer
+--- 14993298
+>>14992129
+Fuck you nigga I remember shit before I was even conceived
+--- 14993303
+>>14993246
+You have to be a total schizo to be invested so much in your nation to begin with. Normal people just want to have peaceful, quite lives with wive and children.
+
+Nazi Germany is what happens when schizos aren't contained.
+--- 14993339
+>>14993303
+>schizo
+Another NPC buzzword
+--- 14993367
+>>14992036 (OP)
+They all look borderline slavic, lol. And those guys had the gall to call Russians deformed monsters.
+--- 14993370
+>>14993367
+>They all look borderline slavic
+It's called being white
+--- 14993391
+>>14993370
+And it's horrifying. My churka brothers in North Caucas look better than that.
+--- 14993412
+>>14993367
+Imagine being surprised that Austrians and Slovaks look similar
+--- 14993421
+>>14993412
+Never told anything about Slovaks. The point is, half of them look like potatoes and that shits all over the German propaganda.
+--- 14993426
+>>14993246 #
+>>14993264 #
+Destiny is real and it manifests itself in the dumbest of ways. The worst mistakes I've committed could've and should've been easily avoided yet they happened and changed my life forever. It's a shame there's no new game+ after you die, not as far as we know anyway
+--- 14993440
+>>14993426
+I posted this shit three times, ignore it or refresh your page, i was trying to get rid of some mistake.
+--- 14993445
+>>14993421
+>Slavic = potato
+Please kill yourself kike
+--- 14993501
+>>14992135
+Gia isn’t some prized beauty anyways. She didn’t even win her competition thing and she is certainly less pretty than Haley. I just mention her a lot so the other jackass shuts up. Just a bunch of morons, all the way down.
+--- 14994582
+>>14993367
+Germans were always Slavs in denial.
+
+They have more in common with them than with French, Brits etc...