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and what was what was that about? | 1irq
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she just couldn't cope with the fact that I was cutting myself might run into friends. She knew it was happening. And I suppose I suppose one of the big things as well as relationships I have | 0id
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the relationships you had? | 5yq
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Hmm | 7ack
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Can you tell me a bit more about that? | 1irq
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Like the one we just had with Mark, you know, starts off being great. And then I got, I got really scared, really scared that they're gonna leave and then turns into a fights and they end up leaving anyway. | 0id
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Right. And it sounds like your daughter struggled with that. | 4crq
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Yeah, I mean, I suppose she didn't whether she was coming out going really | 6cd
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Okay. Well, there are lots of relationships like that. | 3gc
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Yeah. | 7ack
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Okay. You've seen Jane a few people in the past you've seen a couple of psychiatrists and a couple of counselors. As anything that anyone's done for you before been particularly helpful. | 3gc
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I've been crap was Philip being passed from pillar to post. | 3gc
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So you've not found anything that people have done particularly helpful in helping you to manage your relationships and your cutting and the things that seem to go wrong for you. | 4crq
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Its llike nobody's listening to me, You know, I think you're the only person who's actually sat and listened to what I've got to say, | 6cd
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what do you think it would be worse? Given that this this has been such a long standing problem clearly does get gets in the way, quite a lot of aspects of your life. Do you think it would be worth us? meeting again one more time, and perhaps having a think together about how the service could best support you with this? | 11orq
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What do you mean one more time? Can I see you, you know, properly. | 4crq
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Well, the way that we work here in this department is that we we see people once or twice and try and think with them about the best place for them to be and then refer them on to the most appropriate parts of the service. So it wouldn't be usual for me to see. See you more than once or twice Strain | 6cd
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Yeah like I said, You're the only person that's listened to me. | 10od
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I know it's very difficult to open up to people and I know that you have opened up here today and it can feel quite hard that you're not going to continue to see me but it is the way that we work here is to pass you on to somebody who is perhaps a bit more appropriate for your needs Jane. So would it be okay for me to book you in to come back and see me say next week for a second appointment and we can perhaps have a think of where to go from there. | 3gc
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That'd be okay. | 3gc
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Well, that's fine. | 2gt
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Would it be all right handy for you to tell me a little bit about what's been going on? | 1irq
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Well, you're gonna think it sounds stupid, but my housemates are working for MI5 | 0id
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Right. | 7ack
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And they're doing stuff to my brain. | 0id
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Okay, that must be very difficult for you. | 5yq
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Yes | 7ack
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How long has this been going on for Andy? | 1irq
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about two months, | 0id
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right And how did you first work out this is what was happening? | 1irq
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I came one time and the move the move the TV to do so I just I knew that, | 0id
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um, what was it that you knew at that moment? | 1irq
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That they work for MI5 | 0id
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Yeah, this new lecture started in May. And he works for MI5, right. Basically drafted me asked me to sin against me, | 6cd
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okay. Okay. Now I've noticed a couple of times while we've been talking to you sort of look around you into the room as if you checking for something could ask you what's happening at those times. | 1irq
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Well, I can, I can hear him talking about. | 0id
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Who is it You can hear? | 1irq
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My housemate | 0id
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Right. So that you recognize it as their voices? | 5yq
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Yeah, I can I can hear him all the time. | 7ack
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Right, How many voices Can you hear Andy? | 1irq
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there's three of them. | 0id
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Okay. And do they sound real, Like my voice sounds talking to you now? | 1irq
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so when they're not in the house with you? | 4crq
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Okay. Okay. And can you hear what they're actually saying? | 5yq
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Can you give me an example of what they would say? | 1irq
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Like, if I'm packing my bags or to do something, they'll be do comment on that, like you left the house now. | 0id
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yeah | 7ack
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Okay, so you've been you've been hearing the voices of your housemates Have there been any other changes have there been any changes perhaps to the way you're thinking? Sometimes people tell us that they thinking changes in some way. So for example, they might feel that they're getting thoughts put into their head that aren't their own. had any experiences like that? | 1irq
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Yeah. I do think things that that are me like okay to put in thing putting stuff in my brain it's not it's not me. It's not I'm not thinking | 0id
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so different thoughts in your brain. | 4crq
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Yeah. It's stupid stuff as well as I do. The other day, I was just suddenly just started thinking about some woman in Coronation Street and I watched him cry. | 6cd
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It's not your kind of thing normally, right? | 1irq
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They're not my thought. | 0id
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Right. Okay. And do you have any idea how that that's happening who is responsible? | 1irq
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It's MI5, It's this chip of they pur in my head and I can Feel it all the time. | 0id
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Okay. So you're getting thought put into your brain that aren't your own? What about a different sort of experience? What about the experience that somehow other people are able to know what you're thinking even though you haven't actually told them? | 1irq
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Nothing like that. Just putting stuff in my head | 0id
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And can I just check on it as well? That you're not getting the experience when your thoughts just stop all together? Like you have no thoughts left. | 1irq
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If anything, there's too much in there. I wish I could unplug it. | 0id
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Okay. Okay. | 7ack
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Get this thing out of my head. | 3gc
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You mentioned this, this chip or this device in your brain, you want to tell me a bit more about that. | 4crq
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Well, it's it's a tracking device so they know where I am all times in there. I could I could feel it moving around rotating | 6cd
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You can feel the physical sensation in your breain | 3gc
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yeah | 7ack
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okay. Okay, that must be very difficult for you | 3gc
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I don't know why they're doing this to me. I've done nothing wrong. | 3gc
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Okay. Can I just check Are there any problems Andy with the rest of your body any changes in sensation or any bits that feel different in any way? | 1irq
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I feel fine. I'm not ill or anything. I just thing on my head. | 0id
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It sounds like a very difficult time for you. Can I ask you Andy, how are you coping with all this? How's it affecting you? | 1irq
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Well, I know we live in my room much. So have to wait till they go out and I get out to bring food but they have been doing stuff to my food. | 0id
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Okay, what do you think's happening to your food? | 1irq
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they're poisoning it. | 0id
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Okay, are you actually eating much at the moment? | 5yq
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No. | 9on
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Okay, and with all this happening and this says that you don't feel very safe I've got that right. Okay, haveyou felt the need to know to take steps to protect yourself in any way? | 1irq
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Well I've got a knife, okay. And a baseball bat Is this just in case the came in my I room.I don't want to hurt anyone. I feel like I've got to protect myself. It's like cornering me to do this | 0id
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right. Okay. Have you felt the need to use either the knife or the baseball bat so far to take it out with you for protection? | 1irq
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No, no, I don't want to get caught. Just in my room. | 0id
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Okay. Has it ever got so bad Andy that you felt the need to hurt yourself or even kill yourself as the only way out the only way of coping with it? | 1irq
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I saw about getting some pills but I couldn't leave the house. I can't | 0id
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even when you say getting some pills, that'd be to take an overdose of tablets? | 4crq
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but you've not actually done anything about that so far? right? | 4crq
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Okay. In the past have you ever had any problems either with your temper or getting into fights being aggressive either with your housemates or anybody else? | 1irq
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I'm not that kind of person. I don't want to I don't want to hurt anyone. They Just drive me into this. | 0id
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And can I just check again you've not been in trouble with the police or anything like that. | 5yq
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No never | 9on
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Okay. With all this that's going on. Is there any way at the moment Andy That you feel safe? | 1irq
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At my parents house | 0id
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right. Okay. And have you seen much of your parents recently? | 1irq
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Yeah. I don't want to drag them into this I don't want my five known about. | 0id
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And throughout this last couple of months when you've had all these worries, have you ever worried that your parents might in some way be involved in this conspiracy? | 1irq
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I thought about it but no. | 0id
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Okay. Okay. Can I just check out a couple of background things with you, Andy, your general health is that okay Generally fit and well? | 1irq
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Yeah. No ill, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just this thing in my head. | 0id
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And you're not on any regular medication from your own doctor at this stage. | 4crq
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Don't take any. | 6cd
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Okay. What about other drugs And by that I'm meaning alcohol cannabis pills, Anything else? | 1irq
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I don't I don't drink much alchohol. | 0id
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