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and what was what was that about?
1irq
she just couldn't cope with the fact that I was cutting myself might run into friends. She knew it was happening. And I suppose I suppose one of the big things as well as relationships I have
0id
the relationships you had?
5yq
Hmm
7ack
Can you tell me a bit more about that?
1irq
Like the one we just had with Mark, you know, starts off being great. And then I got, I got really scared, really scared that they're gonna leave and then turns into a fights and they end up leaving anyway.
0id
Right. And it sounds like your daughter struggled with that.
4crq
Yeah, I mean, I suppose she didn't whether she was coming out going really
6cd
Okay. Well, there are lots of relationships like that.
3gc
Yeah.
7ack
Okay. You've seen Jane a few people in the past you've seen a couple of psychiatrists and a couple of counselors. As anything that anyone's done for you before been particularly helpful.
3gc
I've been crap was Philip being passed from pillar to post.
3gc
So you've not found anything that people have done particularly helpful in helping you to manage your relationships and your cutting and the things that seem to go wrong for you.
4crq
Its llike nobody's listening to me, You know, I think you're the only person who's actually sat and listened to what I've got to say,
6cd
what do you think it would be worse? Given that this this has been such a long standing problem clearly does get gets in the way, quite a lot of aspects of your life. Do you think it would be worth us? meeting again one more time, and perhaps having a think together about how the service could best support you with this?
11orq
What do you mean one more time? Can I see you, you know, properly.
4crq
Well, the way that we work here in this department is that we we see people once or twice and try and think with them about the best place for them to be and then refer them on to the most appropriate parts of the service. So it wouldn't be usual for me to see. See you more than once or twice Strain
6cd
Yeah like I said, You're the only person that's listened to me.
10od
I know it's very difficult to open up to people and I know that you have opened up here today and it can feel quite hard that you're not going to continue to see me but it is the way that we work here is to pass you on to somebody who is perhaps a bit more appropriate for your needs Jane. So would it be okay for me to book you in to come back and see me say next week for a second appointment and we can perhaps have a think of where to go from there.
3gc
That'd be okay.
3gc
Well, that's fine.
2gt
Would it be all right handy for you to tell me a little bit about what's been going on?
1irq
Well, you're gonna think it sounds stupid, but my housemates are working for MI5
0id
Right.
7ack
And they're doing stuff to my brain.
0id
Okay, that must be very difficult for you.
5yq
Yes
7ack
How long has this been going on for Andy?
1irq
about two months,
0id
right And how did you first work out this is what was happening?
1irq
I came one time and the move the move the TV to do so I just I knew that,
0id
um, what was it that you knew at that moment?
1irq
That they work for MI5
0id
Yeah, this new lecture started in May. And he works for MI5, right. Basically drafted me asked me to sin against me,
6cd
okay. Okay. Now I've noticed a couple of times while we've been talking to you sort of look around you into the room as if you checking for something could ask you what's happening at those times.
1irq
Well, I can, I can hear him talking about.
0id
Who is it You can hear?
1irq
My housemate
0id
Right. So that you recognize it as their voices?
5yq
Yeah, I can I can hear him all the time.
7ack
Right, How many voices Can you hear Andy?
1irq
there's three of them.
0id
Okay. And do they sound real, Like my voice sounds talking to you now?
1irq
so when they're not in the house with you?
4crq
Okay. Okay. And can you hear what they're actually saying?
5yq
Can you give me an example of what they would say?
1irq
Like, if I'm packing my bags or to do something, they'll be do comment on that, like you left the house now.
0id
yeah
7ack
Okay, so you've been you've been hearing the voices of your housemates Have there been any other changes have there been any changes perhaps to the way you're thinking? Sometimes people tell us that they thinking changes in some way. So for example, they might feel that they're getting thoughts put into their head that aren't their own. had any experiences like that?
1irq
Yeah. I do think things that that are me like okay to put in thing putting stuff in my brain it's not it's not me. It's not I'm not thinking
0id
so different thoughts in your brain.
4crq
Yeah. It's stupid stuff as well as I do. The other day, I was just suddenly just started thinking about some woman in Coronation Street and I watched him cry.
6cd
It's not your kind of thing normally, right?
1irq
They're not my thought.
0id
Right. Okay. And do you have any idea how that that's happening who is responsible?
1irq
It's MI5, It's this chip of they pur in my head and I can Feel it all the time.
0id
Okay. So you're getting thought put into your brain that aren't your own? What about a different sort of experience? What about the experience that somehow other people are able to know what you're thinking even though you haven't actually told them?
1irq
Nothing like that. Just putting stuff in my head
0id
And can I just check on it as well? That you're not getting the experience when your thoughts just stop all together? Like you have no thoughts left.
1irq
If anything, there's too much in there. I wish I could unplug it.
0id
Okay. Okay.
7ack
Get this thing out of my head.
3gc
You mentioned this, this chip or this device in your brain, you want to tell me a bit more about that.
4crq
Well, it's it's a tracking device so they know where I am all times in there. I could I could feel it moving around rotating
6cd
You can feel the physical sensation in your breain
3gc
yeah
7ack
okay. Okay, that must be very difficult for you
3gc
I don't know why they're doing this to me. I've done nothing wrong.
3gc
Okay. Can I just check Are there any problems Andy with the rest of your body any changes in sensation or any bits that feel different in any way?
1irq
I feel fine. I'm not ill or anything. I just thing on my head.
0id
It sounds like a very difficult time for you. Can I ask you Andy, how are you coping with all this? How's it affecting you?
1irq
Well, I know we live in my room much. So have to wait till they go out and I get out to bring food but they have been doing stuff to my food.
0id
Okay, what do you think's happening to your food?
1irq
they're poisoning it.
0id
Okay, are you actually eating much at the moment?
5yq
No.
9on
Okay, and with all this happening and this says that you don't feel very safe I've got that right. Okay, haveyou felt the need to know to take steps to protect yourself in any way?
1irq
Well I've got a knife, okay. And a baseball bat Is this just in case the came in my I room.I don't want to hurt anyone. I feel like I've got to protect myself. It's like cornering me to do this
0id
right. Okay. Have you felt the need to use either the knife or the baseball bat so far to take it out with you for protection?
1irq
No, no, I don't want to get caught. Just in my room.
0id
Okay. Has it ever got so bad Andy that you felt the need to hurt yourself or even kill yourself as the only way out the only way of coping with it?
1irq
I saw about getting some pills but I couldn't leave the house. I can't
0id
even when you say getting some pills, that'd be to take an overdose of tablets?
4crq
but you've not actually done anything about that so far? right?
4crq
Okay. In the past have you ever had any problems either with your temper or getting into fights being aggressive either with your housemates or anybody else?
1irq
I'm not that kind of person. I don't want to I don't want to hurt anyone. They Just drive me into this.
0id
And can I just check again you've not been in trouble with the police or anything like that.
5yq
No never
9on
Okay. With all this that's going on. Is there any way at the moment Andy That you feel safe?
1irq
At my parents house
0id
right. Okay. And have you seen much of your parents recently?
1irq
Yeah. I don't want to drag them into this I don't want my five known about.
0id
And throughout this last couple of months when you've had all these worries, have you ever worried that your parents might in some way be involved in this conspiracy?
1irq
I thought about it but no.
0id
Okay. Okay. Can I just check out a couple of background things with you, Andy, your general health is that okay Generally fit and well?
1irq
Yeah. No ill, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just this thing in my head.
0id
And you're not on any regular medication from your own doctor at this stage.
4crq
Don't take any.
6cd
Okay. What about other drugs And by that I'm meaning alcohol cannabis pills, Anything else?
1irq
I don't I don't drink much alchohol.
0id