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Pompeo has been controversial for reasons beyond those raised by Rand Paul. Remind us why this has been such a contentious nomination.
pompeo has been controversial for reasons beyond those raised, by rand paul remind us why this has been such a contentious
Pompeo has been controversial for reasons beyond those raised by Rand Paul Remind us why this has been such a, contentious
pompeo has been controversial for reasons beyond those raised by rand paul. remind us why this has been such a contentious nomination.
Like most things in Congress, it's a little bit of politics and a little bit of policy. Republicans have accused Democrats of basically throwing Pompeo under the bus. They voted 66 to 32 to approve him as CIA director, which is the job he has now. Democrats say that secretary of state is just a different job, and they worry about his policies on things like his opposition to gay marriage - how that might affect many of gay diplomats that are serving all across the world. And they worry about that idea of wanting to have strikes in North Korea and Iran. He used to support those strikes. And during his confirmation process, Pompeo said that he had changed his mind, and he favors diplomacy now. And Democrats say they don't know what to trust.
like most things in congress it's a little bit of. politics and, a little bit of policy. republicans have accused democrats of basically throwing pompeo under the bus they, voted. 66 to 32 to approve him as cia director which is the job he has now democrats say that secretary; of, state, is just a different job, and they worry about his policies on things like his opposition. to, gay marriage - how that might, affect many of gay diplomats that are serving all across the world and they worry about that idea of wanting to have strikes in north korea and iran he used to support those strikes and during his confirmation process. pompeo said that he had changed, his mind and he favors diplomacy now, and democrats say they, don't know what to;
Like most things in Congress. it's a little bit of politics and. a little bit of policy Republicans have accused Democrats of basically throwing, Pompeo under the bus They voted 66 to 32 to approve him as CIA director which is, the job he has now Democrats say that secretary of state is just a different job and. they worry about his policies on; things like his opposition to gay marriage - how that might affect many of gay diplomats that are serving all across the world And they worry about that idea of wanting to have strikes in, North Korea and Iran He used to support those strikes And during his confirmation process Pompeo said that he had changed his mind and he favors diplomacy now And Democrats say they don't know what. to
like most things in congress, it's a little bit of politics and a little bit of policy. republicans have accused democrats of basically throwing pompeo under the bus. they voted 66 to 32 to approve him as cia director, which is the job he has now. democrats say that secretary of state is just a different job, and they worry about his policies on things like his opposition to gay marriage - how that might affect many of gay diplomats that are serving all across the world. and they worry about that idea of wanting to have strikes in north korea and iran. he used to support those strikes. and during his confirmation process, pompeo said that he had changed his mind, and he favors diplomacy now. and democrats say they don't know what to trust.
After Pompeo, there are other controversial nominees headed to the Senate in the next few weeks. Senators have raised concerns about White House doctor Ronny Jackson, who's nominated to head the Department of Veterans Affairs; the deputy director of the CIA, Gina Haspel, who's nominated to lead that agency. Are they facing the same sort of risks that Pompeo has been dealing with?
after pompeo there are other. controversial nominees headed to the senate in the next few weeks senators have raised concerns about white house doctor ronny jackson who's nominated to head the department of veterans affairs the deputy director of the cia gina haspel who's nominated, to lead that agency are they facing the same, sort of risks that pompeo has been dealing.
After Pompeo there are other controversial nominees headed to the Senate in, the next few weeks Senators have raised concerns about White. House doctor Ronny Jackson who's nominated to head the Department of Veterans Affairs the deputy director of the CIA Gina Haspel who's nominated, to, lead that agency Are they facing the same sort of risks that Pompeo has been dealing
after pompeo, there are other controversial nominees headed to the senate in the next few weeks. senators have raised concerns about white house doctor ronny jackson, who's nominated to head the department of veterans affairs; the deputy director of the cia, gina haspel, who's nominated to lead that agency. are they facing the same sort of risks that pompeo has been dealing with?
They both definitely face risks, but they have different risks. And it's kind of too soon to tell what will happen. Jackson gets a hearing on Wednesday, and those concerns are about his record basically that he doesn't have enough experience to run a big bureaucratic agency like the VA. And those are fairly bipartisan concerns. Here's what Democratic Senator Tim Kaine said earlier today at a campaign stop in Virginia.
they both definitely face. risks but they have different risks and it's kind of too soon; to tell what will happen jackson. gets a hearing on wednesday and those concerns are about his record basically that he doesn't have enough experience to run a big bureaucratic agency like the va and those are fairly bipartisan concerns here's what democratic senator tim. kaine said, earlier today at a campaign stop in
They both definitely face risks but they have different risks And it's kind of too soon to tell what will happen Jackson gets a hearing on Wednesday and those concerns are about his. record; basically, that he doesn't have enough experience to run a big bureaucratic agency like the VA And those are fairly bipartisan concerns Here's what Democratic Senator Tim Kaine said earlier today at a campaign stop in
they both definitely face risks, but they have different risks. and it's kind of too soon to tell what will happen. jackson gets a hearing on wednesday, and those concerns are about his record basically that he doesn't have enough experience to run a big bureaucratic agency like the va. and those are fairly bipartisan concerns. here's what democratic senator tim kaine said earlier today at a campaign stop in virginia.
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Nothing down on the individual. I mean, as a physician, I don't think people have questions. But it's - knowing the size and scope of the challenges and VA's size of the operation and what we need to do - think there's a lot of skepticism.
nothing, down on the individual i mean. as a physician i. don't think people have questions but it's - knowing the size and scope of the challenges and va's size of the operation, and what we. need to do - think there's a lot of
Nothing down on the individual I mean as a physician I don't think people have questions But, it's - knowing the size and scope of the challenges and VA's. size of the, operation and what we need to do - think there's a lot of
nothing down on the individual. i mean, as a physician, i don't think people have questions. but it's - knowing the size and scope of the challenges and va's size of the operation and what we need to do - think there's a lot of skepticism.
That's a pretty common complaint. People say that he seems like a nice guy, seems like a good doctor. But the VA is troubled and needs somebody who can run a really big organization. Concerns about Haspel are also bipartisan but very different. Senators say they want to ask her about her involvement in brutal CIA interrogations of terror suspects. And one of the Republicans who wants some answers is, again, Rand Paul.
that's a pretty common complaint people say that he seems, like a nice guy seems like a good doctor but the va. is troubled and needs somebody who can run a really, big organization concerns about haspel are. also bipartisan. but. very different senators say they want to ask her about, her involvement in brutal, cia interrogations of terror suspects and one of. the republicans who wants some answers is. again rand
That's a pretty common complaint People say that he seems like a nice guy seems like a good doctor But the VA is troubled and needs somebody who can run a really. big organization Concerns about Haspel are also bipartisan but very. different Senators say they want to ask her about her involvement in brutal CIA interrogations of terror suspects And one of the Republicans who wants some answers is again Rand
that's a pretty common complaint. people say that he seems like a nice guy, seems like a good doctor. but the va is troubled and needs somebody who can run a really big organization. concerns about haspel are also bipartisan but very different. senators say they want to ask her about her involvement in brutal cia interrogations of terror suspects. and one of the republicans who wants some answers is, again, rand paul.
NPR's Kelsey Snell - thanks so much, Kelsey.
npr's kelsey snell - thanks so much
NPR's Kelsey Snell - thanks so much
npr's kelsey snell - thanks so much, kelsey.
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And now the Opinion Page. Congress still needs to negotiate the exact details of the federal bailout for Wall Street with the Secretary of the Treasury, but we know the general idea. The federal government hopes to set aside as much as $700 billion to buy out bad mortgages and other investments. It may be the most sweeping government intervention to rescue financial institutions since the Great Depression.
and now the opinion page congress, still needs to negotiate the exact details of. the federal bailout for, wall street with the secretary of the treasury but we. know the general idea the, federal government hopes to set, aside as much as, $700 billion to buy out bad mortgages and other investments it may be the most sweeping government, intervention to rescue financial institutions since, the great
And now the Opinion Page Congress still needs to, negotiate the exact details of the federal bailout for. Wall. Street with the Secretary of the Treasury but we know the general idea, The federal government, hopes to set, aside as. much as $700 billion to buy out bad mortgages and other investments It may be the most sweeping government intervention to rescue financial institutions since the Great,
and now the opinion page. congress still needs to negotiate the exact details of the federal bailout for wall street with the secretary of the treasury, but we know the general idea. the federal government hopes to set aside as much as $700 billion to buy out bad mortgages and other investments. it may be the most sweeping government intervention to rescue financial institutions since the great depression.
In an op-ed in Sunday's Washington Post, Sebastian Mallaby noted that an idea that nobody in public office had even mentioned a week ago now seems suddenly inevitable. And he argues, this is extremely dangerous, that there are cheaper and better ways to do it. If the government's going to spend 700 billion taxpayer dollars, your money, what should we get for it? 800-989-8255. Email, [email protected]. You also join the conversation and get a link to Sebastian Mallaby's piece on our blog at npr.org/blogofthenation.
in an op-ed, in sunday's washington post sebastian mallaby noted that an idea that nobody in public, office had even mentioned a, week ago now seems suddenly inevitable and he argues this is extremely dangerous that there are cheaper and better ways to do it if. the government's going to spend 700 billion taxpayer dollars your money what should we get for it? 800-989-8255. email [email protected] you also join the conversation and get a link to sebastian mallaby's piece on our blog at
In an op-ed in Sunday's Washington; Post Sebastian Mallaby noted that an idea that nobody in public office had even mentioned a week ago now seems suddenly inevitable And he argues this is extremely dangerous that there are cheaper and better ways to do it If. the government's going to spend 700 billion taxpayer dollars your money what should we get for it? 800-989-8255. Email [email protected] You also join the conversation and get a link to Sebastian Mallaby's piece on our blog at
in an op-ed in sunday's washington post, sebastian mallaby noted that an idea that nobody in public office had even mentioned a week ago now seems suddenly inevitable. and he argues, this is extremely dangerous, that there are cheaper and better ways to do it. if the government's going to spend 700 billion taxpayer dollars, your money, what should we get for it? 800-989-8255. email, [email protected]. you also join the conversation and get a link to sebastian mallaby's piece on our blog at npr.org/blogofthenation.
Sebastian Mallaby is director of the Center for Geo-Economic Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and he joins us from the studio there. Nice to have you on the program today.
sebastian, mallaby is director of the center for geo-economic studies at the council on foreign relations and. he joins us from the studio there, nice. to. have you on the program
Sebastian Mallaby is director of the Center for Geo-Economic Studies at; the Council on Foreign, Relations and he joins, us from the studio, there Nice to have you on the program
sebastian mallaby is director of the center for geo-economic studies at the council on foreign relations and he joins us from the studio there. nice to have you on the program today.
Good to be with you, Neal.
good to be with. you
Good to be with you.
good to be with you, neal.
And you argue that the government shouldn't be buying bad debts, that they should buy equity stakes in the banks themselves.
and you argue that the government shouldn't, be buying bad debts that they, should buy equity stakes in the banks
And you argue that the. government shouldn't be buying bad debts that they, should buy equity stakes in the banks
and you argue that the government shouldn't be buying bad debts, that they should buy equity stakes in the banks themselves.
That's right. I think we want three things from a plan like this. We want it to work in terms of stabilizing the financial system. We want it to work quickly so that it provides an alternative to the ad-hoc, bailout-to-bailout, hand-to-mouth sort of stuff we've had in the past week. And we want it preferably not to cost the taxpayers too much. And I think of all those measures, we would be better shape if we had something where you were going to go in and put equity into these banks rather than taking bad loans off their hands.
that's right i think we want three things from a. plan like this we want it to work in terms, of stabilizing. the. financial system we want it to work quickly so that it provides an alternative to the ad-hoc bailout-to-bailout hand-to-mouth sort of stuff, we've had in the past week and. we want it preferably, not to cost the taxpayers too much and; i think of all those measures we would be better shape if we had something where you were going to go in. and put equity into these banks rather than taking, bad loans, off their
That's. right I think we want three things from a plan, like this We want it to work in terms of stabilizing the financial system We want it to work quickly so that it provides an alternative. to the ad-hoc bailout-to-bailout hand-to-mouth sort of stuff, we've had in the past week And we want it preferably not to cost the taxpayers too much And I think of all those measures we. would be better shape if; we had, something where you. were going to go in and put equity into, these banks, rather than taking bad loans off their
that's right. i think we want three things from a plan like this. we want it to work in terms of stabilizing the financial system. we want it to work quickly so that it provides an alternative to the ad-hoc, bailout-to-bailout, hand-to-mouth sort of stuff we've had in the past week. and we want it preferably not to cost the taxpayers too much. and i think of all those measures, we would be better shape if we had something where you were going to go in and put equity into these banks rather than taking bad loans off their hands.
But you do agree that something big needs to be done and needs to be done soon.
but you do agree that something. big needs. to be done and needs to be done,
But, you, do agree that something big needs, to be done and needs to be done
but you do agree that something big needs to be done and needs to be done soon.
Yes. Insert V-E and you get one who retaliates.
yes insert v-e and you get one who.
Yes Insert V-E and you get one who
yes. insert v-e and you get one who retaliates.
You're corrupt. Much of the media in this country is not just fake; it's corrupt. And you have some very fine people, too - great journalists, great reporters. But to a large extent, it's corrupt and it's fake. Ask the president of Finland a question, please.
you're corrupt much of the; media in this country is not just fake it's corrupt and you have some very fine people too - great journalists great reporters but to a large extent it's corrupt and it's fake ask the president of finland a question
You're corrupt Much. of the media in this country is, not, just, fake it's corrupt And you have some. very fine, people too. - great journalists great reporters. But to a large extent it's corrupt and it's fake Ask the president of Finland a question;
you're corrupt. much of the media in this country is not just fake; it's corrupt. and you have some very fine people, too - great journalists, great reporters. but to a large extent, it's corrupt and it's fake. ask the president of finland a question, please.
OK...
ok...
I wonder what - what was it like to watch that, to hear that from the perspective of a foreign correspondent covering America?
i wonder what - what was it like to watch that to hear that from the perspective. of a foreign, correspondent. covering
I, wonder what - what was it like to watch that, to hear that from. the perspective, of a foreign, correspondent covering
i wonder what - what was it like to watch that, to hear that from the perspective of a foreign correspondent covering america?
Well, of course it's not the first I'm hearing it. I have been here quite many years already. But it feels terrible. And we wanted to actually ask our president at the same press conference how he feels about it. Finland is a very strong country of democratic institutions, like United States is, also.
well, of, course it's not the first i'm hearing, it i have been here quite many years already but it feels terrible and we wanted. to actually, ask; our president at the same press conference how he feels about it finland is a very, strong country of democratic institutions like united states. is
Well of course; it's not the first I'm hearing it I have been, here quite many years already But, it feels. terrible, And we wanted, to actually, ask. our president, at, the same, press conference; how he feels about it Finland is a very strong country of democratic institutions like United States is
well, of course it's not the first i'm hearing it. i have been here quite many years already. but it feels terrible. and we wanted to actually ask our president at the same press conference how he feels about it. finland is a very strong country of democratic institutions, like united states is, also.
But some people in Finland would hope that he would be maybe more brave and say something. Like, for example, when we were at the Oval Office, Trump started to say how press is, again, enemy of the people. And our president is sitting there quietly. Of course, I don't know what else he can do. But some people think he should really say something. And you know - and some people think this is the only right way to do, also. Like, he has to respect the president of the United States. He is his guest and et cetera. But that kind of divides the Finnish people, what we think about.
but some people in finland would hope that, he would be maybe, more brave and say something like for example when we were at the oval office trump started to. say how. press. is again enemy of the people and our president is sitting there quietly of course. i don't know what; else he can do but some people think he should, really say something and you know - and some. people think this is the only, right way to do also like he has to respect the president of, the united states he is his guest and, et cetera but that kind of divides the finnish people, what we think
But some people in, Finland, would hope that he would be maybe more brave and say something Like for example when we, were at the Oval Office Trump started. to say. how, press is, again enemy of the people And our president is, sitting there quietly Of course I don't know what else he can do But some people think he should really say something And you know - and some people think this is the only; right way to do also Like he has to respect the president of the United States He is his guest and et cetera But that kind of divides the Finnish people what, we think
but some people in finland would hope that he would be maybe more brave and say something. like, for example, when we were at the oval office, trump started to say how press is, again, enemy of the people. and our president is sitting there quietly. of course, i don't know what else he can do. but some people think he should really say something. and you know - and some people think this is the only right way to do, also. like, he has to respect the president of the united states. he is his guest and et cetera. but that kind of divides the finnish people, what we think about.
Ah, that fine line between being respectful of your host but also standing up for something such as the freedom of the press, which is important in Finland as it is here in the United States.
ah that fine line between being respectful of your host but also standing up for something such as the freedom of the press which is important, in finland as it is here in the; united
Ah that fine line between being respectful of your host but also standing up for something such as the freedom of the press which is important in Finland as, it is here in, the United
ah, that fine line between being respectful of your host but also standing up for something such as the freedom of the press, which is important in finland as it is here in the united states.
Of course. This is kind of the base of everything of the democracy.
of course this is kind of the base of everything of the
Of course This is kind. of the base of everything of the
of course. this is kind of the base of everything of the democracy.
That is Mari Karppinen. She's U.S. correspondent for MTV News Finland.
that is mari karppinen she's u.s correspondent for mtv news
That is Mari Karppinen She's U.S correspondent for MTV, News
that is mari karppinen. she's u.s. correspondent for mtv news finland.
Thanks so much.
thanks so
Thanks so
thanks so much.
Thank you very much for having me.
thank you very much for having
Thank you very much for having
thank you very much for having me.
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American writer Toni Morrison died on Monday. She was 88 years old. Morrison's work explored the African American experience and the open wounds of racism in this country. Here she was speaking on CBS.
american writer toni morrison died on monday she was 88 years old morrison's, work explored the african american experience and the open wounds of racism in, this country here she was speaking on
American writer Toni Morrison died on Monday She was 88 years old. Morrison's work; explored the African American experience and the open wounds of racism in; this country Here she was speaking on
american writer toni morrison died on monday. she was 88 years old. morrison's work explored the african american experience and the open wounds of racism in this country. here she was speaking on cbs.
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What are you without racism? Are you any good? Are you still strong, still smart, you still like yourself? I mean, these are the questions. It's - part of it is, yes, the victim, how terrible it is for black people.
what are you without; racism? are you any good? are you still strong still smart you still like yourself? i mean these are, the questions, it's. - part of it, is yes the victim how terrible it is for black
What are you, without racism? Are, you any good? Are you still strong still smart you still like yourself? I mean these are the questions It's - part of. it is yes the victim. how terrible it is for black
what are you without racism? are you any good? are you still strong, still smart, you still like yourself? i mean, these are the questions. it's - part of it is, yes, the victim, how terrible it is for black people.
Yeah, but you don't like that (ph).
yeah, but you don't like that
Yeah but you don't like that
yeah, but you don't like that (ph).
I'm not a victim. I refuse to be one.
i'm, not a victim i refuse to be
I'm not, a victim I refuse to be
i'm not a victim. i refuse to be one.
Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah profiled Toni Morrison in 2015 for New York Times Magazine. And I sat down with her to talk about Toni Morrison's legacy and what the writer meant to her personally.
rachel kaadzi ghansah profiled toni morrison in, 2015 for new york times magazine and i sat down with her to talk about toni morrison's legacy and what the writer meant to her
Rachel Kaadzi, Ghansah profiled Toni Morrison in 2015 for New York Times Magazine And I sat down with her to talk about Toni Morrison's legacy and what the. writer meant to her
rachel kaadzi ghansah profiled toni morrison in 2015 for new york times magazine. and i sat down with her to talk about toni morrison's legacy and what the writer meant to her personally.
For me and for so many people, Toni Morrison is one of the most towering figures in American literature. And that's not an overstatement. I mean, to say that she's iconic, to say that she's vanguard, to say that she's bold is to only tap slightly towards her presence as an absolute genius. When Toni Morrison wrote "Song Of Solomon" and "Sula" and "Jazz" and all of her novels, what she really did is show the world that black America had an interiority. And what she did in her capturing of all those details is that she really gave us a record of gesture (ph) and custom and being and belonging that I think wouldn't have been explicated in that way without her writing.
for me and for so many people toni. morrison; is one of the most, towering figures in american literature and that's. not an, overstatement i mean, to say that she's iconic to say that she's vanguard to say that she's bold. is to only tap slightly towards her presence as an absolute genius when toni morrison wrote "song; of solomon" and "sula" and "jazz" and all of, her novels what she really did is show. the. world that black america had an interiority and what she did in her capturing, of all those details is that she really gave us a record of gesture (ph) and custom and being and belonging that. i think wouldn't have been explicated. in that way without her
For me and for so many people Toni Morrison is one of the most towering figures in American literature And that's not an overstatement. I mean to say that she's iconic to say that she's vanguard to say that she's. bold is to only tap slightly towards her presence as an absolute genius When Toni Morrison wrote, "Song Of Solomon" and. "Sula" and "Jazz" and all of her novels what she really did, is show the world that black. America had an interiority And what she did in her capturing of all those details is that, she really gave us a record of gesture (ph) and custom and being and belonging that I think wouldn't have been explicated in that, way without her
for me and for so many people, toni morrison is one of the most towering figures in american literature. and that's not an overstatement. i mean, to say that she's iconic, to say that she's vanguard, to say that she's bold is to only tap slightly towards her presence as an absolute genius. when toni morrison wrote "song of solomon" and "sula" and "jazz" and all of her novels, what she really did is show the world that black america had an interiority. and what she did in her capturing of all those details is that she really gave us a record of gesture (ph) and custom and being and belonging that i think wouldn't have been explicated in that way without her writing.
How did she permeate the culture as a writer? Because it was a long time coming.
how did she permeate the culture as a writer? because it was a long time
How did she permeate the culture as a, writer? Because it was a long time
how did she permeate the culture as a writer? because it was a long time coming.
I mean, Morrison publishes her first work at 39. And before then, she had been working at Random House, where she had published books by Muhammad Ali, Henry Dumas, Angela Davis, Huey P. Newton, Toni Cade Bambara and Gail Jones. And one of the things that she keeps saying as she's working with Gail Jones' manuscript is that no other novel about a black woman will ever be the same after this. And I think that in some ways she's almost presaging her own work. After we start to read Morrison, I think we all got a sense of just how good our language was, just how powerful black vernacular was. And until she did what she did, I don't think that we really had a testament to that. And in changing the world, I think she changed the world just by being so genius. And after that, you couldn't come to the table with anything less than what she was offering because she became the standard. She's the metric.
i mean morrison; publishes her first work at 39. and, before then she had been working at random house where she had published books by muhammad ali henry dumas angela davis huey p newton toni cade bambara and gail jones and one of the things that she keeps saying. as. she's, working with gail jones' manuscript is that no other novel about a black woman will ever be the same after this and i think that in some ways; she's almost, presaging her own work. after we. start to read morrison. i think we all got a, sense of just how good our language was. just how powerful black, vernacular was and until. she did what she did, i don't think that we really, had a testament to that and in changing the world i think she changed the world just by being so genius and after that you couldn't come to the table with anything less than what she was offering because she became the standard she's the
I mean Morrison publishes, her first work at 39. And before then she had been. working at Random House where she had. published books by Muhammad, Ali Henry Dumas Angela, Davis Huey P, Newton Toni Cade Bambara and Gail Jones And one, of the, things that she keeps. saying as she's working with Gail Jones' manuscript is that no other novel about a black woman will ever be the same after this And I think. that in some ways she's almost presaging her, own work After we start to read Morrison I think we all got a sense of just how good. our language was just how powerful black vernacular was And until she did what she did I don't. think that we really had a testament to, that And in changing the world I think she changed the world just by being so genius And after that you couldn't come to the table with, anything less than what she was offering because she became the standard She's the
i mean, morrison publishes her first work at 39. and before then, she had been working at random house, where she had published books by muhammad ali, henry dumas, angela davis, huey p. newton, toni cade bambara and gail jones. and one of the things that she keeps saying as she's working with gail jones' manuscript is that no other novel about a black woman will ever be the same after this. and i think that in some ways she's almost presaging her own work. after we start to read morrison, i think we all got a sense of just how good our language was, just how powerful black vernacular was. and until she did what she did, i don't think that we really had a testament to that. and in changing the world, i think she changed the world just by being so genius. and after that, you couldn't come to the table with anything less than what she was offering because she became the standard. she's the metric.
And yet the establishment was reticent to acknowledge her greatness.
and yet the establishment was reticent, to acknowledge. her
And, yet the establishment; was reticent to acknowledge her
and yet the establishment was reticent to acknowledge her greatness.
Always.
always.
Can you talk about this letter?
can you talk about this
Can you talk about this
can you talk about this letter?
So in 1988, a group of black authors, thinkers, 48 of them published and signed a statement in The New York Times. And basically, what they were doing was upbraiding the publishing industry for what they called the oversight and harmful whimsy towards Morrison and James Baldwin. They were particularly upset that after five novels that we now look back on as being seminal moments in American literature, Toni Morrison had yet to win a National Book Award or a Pulitzer Prize. It was very important to them that they recognized her. And two months later, what happened is that Toni Morrison was awarded the Pulitzer for "Beloved." I think what we know that "Beloved" does is that for the first time we got to hear a black woman talking about the experience of slavery as something that happened to the body but also something that haunted us forever. And I think what they were basically demanding is that she could no longer be rendered invisible.
so. in 1988, a group of black authors thinkers, 48 of them, published and signed a statement in the new york times and basically what they were doing was upbraiding the publishing industry for what they called the oversight and harmful whimsy, towards morrison and james baldwin they were particularly upset that after five novels that we now look back on as being seminal moments in american literature; toni morrison had yet to, win a national book award or a pulitzer prize it was very important to them that they, recognized her and two months later what happened is that toni morrison, was awarded the pulitzer for "beloved" i think what we know that "beloved" does is that for the first time we got to hear a black woman talking about the experience of slavery as something that happened to the body but also something that haunted us forever and i think what they were basically demanding is that she could, no longer be rendered
So in 1988, a group of black authors thinkers 48 of them published and. signed a, statement in The New. York Times And basically, what they were doing was upbraiding the publishing industry for what they called the oversight and harmful, whimsy towards Morrison, and James Baldwin They were particularly upset that after five novels that we now look back on as being seminal moments in American literature; Toni Morrison had yet to win a National Book Award or a Pulitzer Prize It was; very important to them that they recognized her And, two months later what happened is that Toni Morrison was awarded the Pulitzer for "Beloved" I. think what we know that "Beloved" does, is that for the first time we got to hear a black woman talking, about the experience of slavery as something that happened to the body but also something that haunted us forever And; I think what they were basically demanding is that she could no longer be rendered
so in 1988, a group of black authors, thinkers, 48 of them published and signed a statement in the new york times. and basically, what they were doing was upbraiding the publishing industry for what they called the oversight and harmful whimsy towards morrison and james baldwin. they were particularly upset that after five novels that we now look back on as being seminal moments in american literature, toni morrison had yet to win a national book award or a pulitzer prize. it was very important to them that they recognized her. and two months later, what happened is that toni morrison was awarded the pulitzer for "beloved." i think what we know that "beloved" does is that for the first time we got to hear a black woman talking about the experience of slavery as something that happened to the body but also something that haunted us forever. and i think what they were basically demanding is that she could no longer be rendered invisible.
I mentioned that you profiled her for the Times Magazine. You describe her as one of your own literary heroes. How did you first find your way to her writing?
i mentioned, that you. profiled her for the times magazine you describe her as one of your own literary heroes, how did you first find your way to her
I, mentioned that you profiled her for the Times, Magazine You describe her as one of your own literary heroes How did you first find your way to her
i mentioned that you profiled her for the times magazine. you describe her as one of your own literary heroes. how did you first find your way to her writing?
I think so much of Morrison is about transgression. The first time I found Morrison's writing was because I was a voracious reader after I learned to read. And so I was actually going through my mother's books, and I was reading things like "Madame Bovary" and anything I could get my hands on - the more salacious sort of the better. And I stumbled across "Jazz," and I'll never forget that she begins that book with the sound of someone clicking their teeth, and I said, what is this? And I was talking to a friend this morning, and she said, thank you, Toni Morrison, for all the work we've read that we didn't understand, but we understood before we knew what she was saying. And I think when I read "Jazz," I understood all of the womanhood in that story. I understood all of the violence in that story. And I understood all of the sexuality in that story.
i think so much of morrison is about transgression the first time i found morrison's writing was because i was a voracious reader after i. learned to read and so i was actually going through my mother's books and i was reading things like "madame. bovary" and. anything i could get. my hands on - the more salacious. sort of the better and; i stumbled across "jazz" and i'll never forget that she begins that book with the sound of someone clicking, their teeth and i said what is this? and. i was talking to a friend this morning and she said thank you toni morrison for all the work, we've read that we didn't understand but we understood before we. knew what she was saying and i think when i read "jazz" i understood all of the, womanhood in that story i understood. all of the violence in that story and i understood all of the sexuality in that
I think so much of Morrison is about transgression The, first time, I found Morrison's writing was because I. was a voracious reader after I learned to read And so I. was actually going, through my mother's books and, I was reading. things like "Madame Bovary" and anything I could get my, hands on - the more salacious sort, of the. better And I stumbled across "Jazz" and I'll never forget, that she begins that book with the sound of someone clicking their teeth and, I. said what is this? And I was talking to a friend this morning. and she said thank you Toni Morrison for all the work we've read that we didn't understand but we understood, before we knew what she was saying. And I think when I read "Jazz" I understood all of, the womanhood in that story I understood all of the violence in that story And I. understood all of the sexuality in that,
i think so much of morrison is about transgression. the first time i found morrison's writing was because i was a voracious reader after i learned to read. and so i was actually going through my mother's books, and i was reading things like "madame bovary" and anything i could get my hands on - the more salacious sort of the better. and i stumbled across "jazz," and i'll never forget that she begins that book with the sound of someone clicking their teeth, and i said, what is this? and i was talking to a friend this morning, and she said, thank you, toni morrison, for all the work we've read that we didn't understand, but we understood before we knew what she was saying. and i think when i read "jazz," i understood all of the womanhood in that story. i understood all of the violence in that story. and i understood all of the sexuality in that story.
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Myanmar's opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi has made her debut on the international stage after being released from house arrest. On her first journey abroad in 24 years, Suu Kyi attended an international economic forum in Thailand, dazzling world leaders with her statesmanship and charisma. Then yesterday, she visited a camp on the Thai-Myanmar border where refugees have fled to escape oppression and civil war in her homeland. But as NPR's Anthony Kuhn reports, the visit to the camp showed that despite becoming one of the most prominent politicians in Asia, her political situation at home remains precarious.
myanmar's opposition leader aung, san suu kyi has made her. debut on the international stage. after being released from house arrest on. her first journey abroad in 24 years suu kyi, attended. an, international economic; forum in thailand dazzling world, leaders with her statesmanship and, charisma, then yesterday she visited a camp on the thai-myanmar border. where refugees have fled to escape oppression and civil war in her, homeland but as npr's anthony kuhn reports the visit to the camp showed, that despite becoming one of the most prominent politicians in asia her political situation at home remains
Myanmar's opposition leader, Aung San Suu Kyi has made her debut, on the international, stage after being released from house arrest, On her. first journey abroad in 24 years Suu Kyi attended an international economic forum in Thailand dazzling world leaders with her statesmanship, and charisma Then yesterday she visited a camp on the Thai-Myanmar, border where refugees have fled to escape oppression and civil war in her homeland But as NPR's Anthony Kuhn reports, the visit to. the camp showed that despite becoming one of the most prominent politicians in Asia her political, situation at home remains.
myanmar's opposition leader aung san suu kyi has made her debut on the international stage after being released from house arrest. on her first journey abroad in 24 years, suu kyi attended an international economic forum in thailand, dazzling world leaders with her statesmanship and charisma. then yesterday, she visited a camp on the thai-myanmar border where refugees have fled to escape oppression and civil war in her homeland. but as npr's anthony kuhn reports, the visit to the camp showed that despite becoming one of the most prominent politicians in asia, her political situation at home remains precarious.
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Ethnic Karen musicians warm up for Aung San Suu Kyi's arrival at the Mae La refugee camp. Unable to work legally in Thailand or return home to Myanmar - also known as Burma - the camp's roughly 50,000 refugees live in a stateless limbo, dwelling in thatched bamboo huts in the jungle, and surviving with help from international aid groups. U Htwe, a refugee in a cone-shaped bamboo hat, wears the flag of the National League for Democracy, Suu Kyi's party.
ethnic karen musicians warm up for aung san suu kyi's arrival at the mae la refugee camp unable. to work legally in, thailand or return home, to. myanmar - also known as burma - the camp's roughly 50,000 refugees live in a stateless limbo dwelling in thatched bamboo huts in the jungle and surviving with help from international aid groups u, htwe a, refugee in a cone-shaped bamboo hat wears the flag of the national league for democracy suu kyi's
Ethnic Karen musicians warm up for Aung San Suu Kyi's arrival at the Mae La refugee camp Unable to work legally in Thailand or return home to Myanmar - also, known as, Burma - the camp's roughly 50,000 refugees live in a stateless limbo dwelling. in thatched bamboo huts in the jungle and surviving with help from international aid. groups U Htwe a refugee in a cone-shaped bamboo hat wears the flag of the. National League for Democracy Suu Kyi's
ethnic karen musicians warm up for aung san suu kyi's arrival at the mae la refugee camp. unable to work legally in thailand or return home to myanmar - also known as burma - the camp's roughly 50,000 refugees live in a stateless limbo, dwelling in thatched bamboo huts in the jungle, and surviving with help from international aid groups. u htwe, a refugee in a cone-shaped bamboo hat, wears the flag of the national league for democracy, suu kyi's party.
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The Burmese military regime denies that we refugees even exist, he complains. Our life here is very difficult, and Suu Kyi comes here to visit us just like our own mother. We're very happy to see her and we warmly welcome her.
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The Burmese military. regime denies that we refugees even exist he complains Our life here, is very difficult and Suu Kyi comes here to visit us just, like our own mother We're very happy. to see her and; we warmly welcome
the burmese military regime denies that we refugees even exist, he complains. our life here is very difficult, and suu kyi comes here to visit us just like our own mother. we're very happy to see her and we warmly welcome her.
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Suu Kyi's arrival unleashes a melee of jostling journalists, police and supporters, just the way it does in Myanmar. The refugees are perhaps the thorniest issue in the diplomatic relationship between the two neighbors, Thailand and Myanmar. Thai authorities canceled Suu Kyi's planned speech to the refugees, and meetings with ethnic Karen leaders. Experts warn that just as Myanmar's military could roll back the current political reforms, they could also take away Suu Kyi's political space to maneuver. Former Australian ambassador to Myanmar, Trevor Wilson, says that on her trip to Thailand as well as to Europe later this month, Suu Kyi has to avoid any missteps that could get her in trouble back home.
suu kyi's arrival unleashes a melee of jostling journalists. police and supporters just the way it does in myanmar the refugees are perhaps, the thorniest issue, in the diplomatic relationship between the two neighbors thailand and myanmar thai authorities canceled suu kyi's planned speech to the refugees and, meetings with ethnic karen leaders experts warn that just as myanmar's military could, roll back the current political reforms they could also take away suu, kyi's political space to maneuver former australian ambassador to myanmar trevor wilson says that on her trip to thailand. as well as to europe later this month suu, kyi has to avoid any missteps that could get her in trouble back
Suu Kyi's arrival unleashes a melee of jostling journalists police and supporters. just the way it does in Myanmar The refugees are perhaps the thorniest issue in. the diplomatic relationship between the two neighbors, Thailand and Myanmar Thai authorities, canceled Suu Kyi's planned speech to the refugees and meetings with ethnic Karen leaders Experts warn that just as Myanmar's military could roll back the current political reforms they could also take. away Suu Kyi's political space to maneuver Former Australian, ambassador to Myanmar Trevor Wilson, says. that on her trip to Thailand, as well as to Europe later this month Suu. Kyi. has. to avoid any missteps that could get her in trouble back
suu kyi's arrival unleashes a melee of jostling journalists, police and supporters, just the way it does in myanmar. the refugees are perhaps the thorniest issue in the diplomatic relationship between the two neighbors, thailand and myanmar. thai authorities canceled suu kyi's planned speech to the refugees, and meetings with ethnic karen leaders. experts warn that just as myanmar's military could roll back the current political reforms, they could also take away suu kyi's political space to maneuver. former australian ambassador to myanmar, trevor wilson, says that on her trip to thailand as well as to europe later this month, suu kyi has to avoid any missteps that could get her in trouble back home.
She doesn't want to get a situation where the freedoms that she now has are withdrawn. I mean, I'm not suggesting she won't be allowed to go back, but there may be some kind of restrictions imposed on the meetings that she has with people.
she doesn't want to get a situation. where the freedoms that she now has. are withdrawn i mean i'm not suggesting she won't be allowed to go back but, there may be some kind of restrictions. imposed on the meetings that she has, with;
She doesn't want to get a situation where. the freedoms that she now has are withdrawn I mean I'm. not suggesting. she, won't be allowed; to go, back but there may, be some kind of restrictions imposed on the meetings that she has with
she doesn't want to get a situation where the freedoms that she now has are withdrawn. i mean, i'm not suggesting she won't be allowed to go back, but there may be some kind of restrictions imposed on the meetings that she has with people.
The reforms may be fragile, but they have raised the prospect that one day, one of the world's longest-suffering groups of refugees may eventually go home. Michael Albert is the Thailand-based country manager for Right to Play, an aid group that provides refugee youth with sports and recreation. He says aid groups are now shifting their strategies away from integrating the refugees into Thai society...
the reforms may be fragile but they have raised the prospect that one day one of the world's longest-suffering groups of; refugees may eventually go home michael albert is the thailand-based country manager for right to play an aid group that provides refugee, youth with sports and recreation he says aid groups are now shifting their strategies away from integrating the refugees into, thai
The reforms may be fragile but they. have raised the prospect that one day one of, the world's longest-suffering groups of refugees may eventually go home Michael Albert is the, Thailand-based country manager for Right to Play an aid group that provides refugee youth with sports and recreation He says aid groups are now shifting their strategies away from integrating the refugees into Thai
the reforms may be fragile, but they have raised the prospect that one day, one of the world's longest-suffering groups of refugees may eventually go home. michael albert is the thailand-based country manager for right to play, an aid group that provides refugee youth with sports and recreation. he says aid groups are now shifting their strategies away from integrating the refugees into thai society...
To preparing refugees for the eventuality of returning to Myanmar. I mean, this is something that has not really been possible in past, so in that sense it is quite an exciting time. The main issue that still remains is at what time will that be? And everyone agrees it is not right now.
to. preparing refugees for. the eventuality of returning to myanmar i mean this is something that has not really been possible in past so in that sense it is. quite an exciting time. the main issue that still remains. is at what time will that be? and everyone. agrees it is. not right
To. preparing. refugees for the, eventuality. of returning to Myanmar I mean this is, something that has not really been possible in past so in that sense it is quite an exciting, time The main issue that still, remains is at what time will that be? And everyone agrees it is not, right
to preparing refugees for the eventuality of returning to myanmar. i mean, this is something that has not really been possible in past, so in that sense it is quite an exciting time. the main issue that still remains is at what time will that be? and everyone agrees it is not right now.
For now, fighting still rages in Myanmar's northern Kachin state between ethnic rebels seeking autonomy and government troops. In the east, a tenuous cease-fire is in effect with ethnic Karen rebels. Saw David Tharkabaw is chairman of the Karen National Union. He says that instead of withdrawing, the Burmese army has used the cease-fire to stock up and dig in.
for now fighting still rages in myanmar's northern, kachin, state between ethnic rebels seeking autonomy and, government troops in the east a tenuous cease-fire is, in effect with; ethnic karen rebels saw david tharkabaw is. chairman of the karen national union he says that instead of withdrawing the burmese army has. used the, cease-fire to stock up and dig
For now fighting still rages, in, Myanmar's northern Kachin state between ethnic rebels seeking autonomy and government, troops In the east a tenuous cease-fire is in effect with ethnic Karen rebels Saw David Tharkabaw is chairman of the Karen National Union He says that instead, of withdrawing the Burmese, army has used the cease-fire, to stock. up, and dig
for now, fighting still rages in myanmar's northern kachin state between ethnic rebels seeking autonomy and government troops. in the east, a tenuous cease-fire is in effect with ethnic karen rebels. saw david tharkabaw is chairman of the karen national union. he says that instead of withdrawing, the burmese army has used the cease-fire to stock up and dig in.
We stopped shooting and before we talk about the terms and conditions to govern the cease-fire. So, this dry season, they freely resupply their troops and they are improving their bunkers with reinforced concrete.
we stopped shooting and. before we talk about the terms and conditions to govern the cease-fire so this dry season they freely resupply, their troops and they are improving their bunkers with reinforced
We stopped; shooting and before we talk about the terms and conditions to govern the cease-fire So this dry season they freely resupply their troops and they, are improving their bunkers, with reinforced
we stopped shooting and before we talk about the terms and conditions to govern the cease-fire. so, this dry season, they freely resupply their troops and they are improving their bunkers with reinforced concrete.
Even if the fighting stops, a generation of refugees has grown up in the camps with no ties to Myanmar. Many of them dream of emigrating to a third country. Nan Le'le fled here from the neighboring Karen state.
even if the fighting stops a, generation of refugees has grown up in the camps with no ties, to myanmar many of them dream of emigrating to a. third country, nan le'le fled here from the neighboring karen
Even. if the fighting stops a generation of refugees has grown. up. in the camps with no. ties to. Myanmar. Many of them, dream, of emigrating to a third country Nan Le'le fled here from the. neighboring Karen.
even if the fighting stops, a generation of refugees has grown up in the camps with no ties to myanmar. many of them dream of emigrating to a third country. nan le'le fled here from the neighboring karen state.
NAN LE'LE: (Through Translator) I have no home to go back to. The government confiscated our ancestral lands, then they gave people new land elsewhere, but we had no documents proving we owned our home, so we had no way to claim a new home from the government. We were living in a rice field; life is very difficult.
nan le'le: (through translator) i. have no home to go back to the government confiscated our ancestral lands then, they gave people new land elsewhere. but we had no documents proving we owned our home so we had, no way to claim a new home. from the government we were living. in. a rice field life is very.
NAN LE'LE: (Through Translator) I have no home to go back, to The government confiscated our ancestral lands then they gave people new land elsewhere but we had no documents proving. we, owned our home so we had no way to claim a new home from the government We were living in a rice. field life is very
nan le'le: (through translator) i have no home to go back to. the government confiscated our ancestral lands, then they gave people new land elsewhere, but we had no documents proving we owned our home, so we had no way to claim a new home from the government. we were living in a rice field; life is very difficult.
Asked where she wants to live, she holds up her young daughter and replies, anywhere she can get a decent education. Anthony Kuhn, NPR News, Mae Sot, Thailand.
asked where she wants, to live, she holds up her young daughter and replies anywhere she can get a decent education anthony kuhn npr news mae sot
Asked where she wants to live she, holds up her young daughter and replies anywhere she can get a decent education, Anthony Kuhn NPR, News Mae Sot
asked where she wants to live, she holds up her young daughter and replies, anywhere she can get a decent education. anthony kuhn, npr news, mae sot, thailand.
A major shakeup in President Trump's cabinet could be happening. Will Secretary of State Rex Tillerson leave? A reporter asked President Trump this yesterday.
a major, shakeup in president trump's cabinet could be happening will, secretary of, state rex tillerson leave? a reporter asked president trump this
A major shakeup in President Trump's cabinet could be happening Will Secretary of; State Rex Tillerson leave? A reporter asked President Trump this
a major shakeup in president trump's cabinet could be happening. will secretary of state rex tillerson leave? a reporter asked president trump this yesterday.
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Do you want Rex Tillerson on the job, Mr. President?
do you want rex tillerson on; the job mr
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do you want rex tillerson on the job, mr. president?
He's here. Rex is here.
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he's here. rex is here.
Rex is here. News reports say Tillerson won't be there long, though, and that Trump plans to replace him with CIA Director Mike Pompeo. State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert denied any knowledge of this yesterday.
rex is here news reports say tillerson won't be; there, long though and that trump plans to replace him with cia director mike pompeo. state department spokesperson heather nauert denied any knowledge of this
Rex is here News reports say Tillerson won't be there long though and. that Trump plans to replace him with CIA Director Mike Pompeo State Department spokesperson Heather, Nauert denied any knowledge of this
rex is here. news reports say tillerson won't be there long, though, and that trump plans to replace him with cia director mike pompeo. state department spokesperson heather nauert denied any knowledge of this yesterday.
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I don't work at the White House. But what I can tell you is that Chief of Staff Kelly called our department this morning and said that the rumors are not true - that those reports are not true.
i don't work at the white house but what i can tell you is that chief of staff kelly called our. department this morning and said that the rumors are not true - that those reports are not
I don't work at the White House. But what I can tell you is that Chief of Staff Kelly called our department. this morning and said that the rumors are not true, - that those reports are not
i don't work at the white house. but what i can tell you is that chief of staff kelly called our department this morning and said that the rumors are not true - that those reports are not true.
All right. Let's talk about all this with Eliot Cohen. He has served in the State Department under President George W. Bush. He was also one of the so-called Never Trumpers during the presidential campaign last year and continues to be a strong critic of President Trump. Mr. Cohen, thanks for being here.
all right let's talk about all this with eliot cohen he has; served in the state department under president george w bush he was also one of the so-called never trumpers during the presidential campaign last year and continues to be a strong critic of, president trump mr cohen thanks for being
All right Let's talk, about all this with Eliot Cohen He has. served in the State Department under President George W, Bush He was also one of the so-called Never Trumpers during the presidential campaign last year and continues to be a strong critic of President. Trump Mr Cohen thanks. for being
all right. let's talk about all this with eliot cohen. he has served in the state department under president george w. bush. he was also one of the so-called never trumpers during the presidential campaign last year and continues to be a strong critic of president trump. mr. cohen, thanks for being here.
Good to be with you.
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What's your take on what's happening right now with this pending leadership change at State and how it's being implemented?
what's your take on what's happening right now with this pending leadership change at state and how it's being
What's your take on what's happening right now with this pending leadership change at State and. how it's being
what's your take on what's happening right now with this pending leadership change at state and how it's being implemented?
Well, it's a particularly graceless way of getting rid of a not-very-effective secretary of state. I mean, I think that - you just look at the pattern of the reports. It's quite clear the White House is leaking this in the hope of forcing Tillerson out. Of course, they tried that with Jeff Sessions, and it didn't work. But my guess is that in this case, it probably will. It's ugly. But at the end of it, we're going to have a different secretary of state.
well it's, a particularly graceless way of getting rid of a not-very-effective secretary of state i mean i think that - you just look at the pattern, of the reports it's, quite clear the white house is leaking this in the hope of forcing tillerson out of course they tried that with jeff sessions and it didn't. work but my guess is that. in this case it probably will it's ugly but. at the end of it we're going to have a different secretary of
Well it's a particularly graceless way of getting rid of a. not-very-effective secretary of state I mean, I think that - you just look at the pattern of the reports It's quite clear the White House is leaking this in the hope of forcing Tillerson out Of course they tried that with Jeff Sessions and it didn't work But my guess is that in this case it probably will It's ugly But. at the end of it we're; going to have a different secretary, of
well, it's a particularly graceless way of getting rid of a not-very-effective secretary of state. i mean, i think that - you just look at the pattern of the reports. it's quite clear the white house is leaking this in the hope of forcing tillerson out. of course, they tried that with jeff sessions, and it didn't work. but my guess is that in this case, it probably will. it's ugly. but at the end of it, we're going to have a different secretary of state.
You wrote a piece just this last month in The Atlantic titled "Rex Tillerson Must Go." So you must be pleased with this possibility.
you wrote a piece just this last month in the. atlantic titled "rex tillerson must go" so you must be pleased with. this
You wrote a piece just this last month, in The Atlantic titled "Rex Tillerson, Must Go" So you must be pleased with this
you wrote a piece just this last month in the atlantic titled "rex tillerson must go." so you must be pleased with this possibility.
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Let's hear from John in Vancouver, Washington. John, welcome to TALK OF THE NATION.
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let's hear from john in vancouver, washington. john, welcome to talk of the nation.
Worse than the long hours and dismal pay, the researchers found that most of the kids who started working between the ages of 6 and 10 couldn't read a simple sentence or do basic math. Public education is free only for elementary school in Bangladesh. Quattri says the cost of school is one of the main reasons poor families reported sending their 11, 12 and 13 year olds into the workforce.
worse than the long hours and dismal pay the researchers found that, most of the kids who started working between the ages, of 6 and 10 couldn't. read a simple sentence or do, basic math public education. is free, only for elementary school in bangladesh quattri says; the cost of school is one of the main reasons poor families reported sending their 11, 12 and 13 year olds into the
Worse than. the long hours and dismal pay the researchers found that most of the, kids who. started working between the ages of 6 and 10 couldn't read a simple sentence or do basic math Public education is free only for elementary school in Bangladesh Quattri says. the cost of school is one of the. main reasons poor, families reported sending their. 11, 12 and 13 year olds into the.
worse than the long hours and dismal pay, the researchers found that most of the kids who started working between the ages of 6 and 10 couldn't read a simple sentence or do basic math. public education is free only for elementary school in bangladesh. quattri says the cost of school is one of the main reasons poor families reported sending their 11, 12 and 13 year olds into the workforce.
This report and others suggest that millions of kids under the age of 14 in Bangladesh are working. And once they start working 60, 80 or 100 hours a week, it's very hard for them to ever escape those low-wage jobs. Jason Beaubien, NPR News.
this report and. others suggest that millions of kids under the age of 14 in bangladesh are working and once they start working 60, 80 or 100 hours a week it's very hard for them to ever escape those low-wage. jobs jason beaubien npr
This, report and others suggest that millions of kids under the age of 14 in Bangladesh are, working And, once they start. working 60, 80 or 100 hours a week; it's very hard for them to ever escape those low-wage; jobs Jason Beaubien NPR
this report and others suggest that millions of kids under the age of 14 in bangladesh are working. and once they start working 60, 80 or 100 hours a week, it's very hard for them to ever escape those low-wage jobs. jason beaubien, npr news.
Good morning. I'm Steve Inskeep. It's a big weekend in Flagstaff, Ariz. Northern Arizona University is preparing for the homecoming game. And so that people are properly prepared, city bars are holding what they call Tequila Sunrise. The bars open at 6 o'clock in the morning. Authorities say it is indeed legal for the bar to be open at sunrise. It remains illegal, however, to misbehave while drinking. Last year, police arrested more than 40 people during the festivities. It's MORNING EDITION.
good; morning i'm steve inskeep, it's a big weekend in flagstaff ariz northern arizona university is preparing for the homecoming game and so that people are properly prepared city bars are holding what they call tequila sunrise. the bars open at 6 o'clock in the morning authorities say it is, indeed legal for the bar to be open at sunrise it remains illegal; however to misbehave while drinking last year; police arrested more than, 40 people during the festivities it's morning
Good morning. I'm; Steve Inskeep It's a big weekend in Flagstaff Ariz Northern Arizona University is preparing for the homecoming game And so that people. are properly prepared city bars are holding what they call Tequila Sunrise, The bars open at 6 o'clock in the morning Authorities say it, is indeed legal for, the bar to be open at sunrise It remains illegal. however to misbehave. while drinking Last year police arrested more than 40 people during the festivities. It's MORNING
good morning. i'm steve inskeep. it's a big weekend in flagstaff, ariz. northern arizona university is preparing for the homecoming game. and so that people are properly prepared, city bars are holding what they call tequila sunrise. the bars open at 6 o'clock in the morning. authorities say it is indeed legal for the bar to be open at sunrise. it remains illegal, however, to misbehave while drinking. last year, police arrested more than 40 people during the festivities. it's morning edition.
This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon. Coming up: Mexican teachers prepare a lesson for their country's presidential candidates. But first, this week, Apple Computer, Inc. announced irregularities in the way the company awarded stock options to executives and employees from 1997 to 2001.
this is. weekend edition from npr news i'm scott simon coming up: mexican teachers prepare a lesson for their country's presidential candidates but first this week apple computer inc announced irregularities. in the way the company awarded stock options to executives and, employees from 1997 to
This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News I'm Scott Simon Coming up: Mexican teachers prepare a lesson for their country's presidential. candidates But first this. week Apple Computer Inc announced irregularities in the way the company awarded stock options to executives, and employees from 1997 to
this is weekend edition from npr news. i'm scott simon. coming up: mexican teachers prepare a lesson for their country's presidential candidates. but first, this week, apple computer, inc. announced irregularities in the way the company awarded stock options to executives and employees from 1997 to 2001.
Apple joins a growing list of publicly held companies that have been obliged to re-examine their stock options programs. Now, no one as yet knows whether Apple engaged in backdating. That's a practice in which companies allow their executives and other employees to buy stock at a lower retroactive price and thereby maximize returns.
apple joins a. growing list, of publicly held companies that have been, obliged to re-examine their, stock options programs now no one as yet, knows whether apple engaged in backdating that's a practice in which companies allow their executives and other employees to buy stock at a lower. retroactive price and thereby maximize
Apple, joins a growing list of. publicly held companies that have been. obliged to re-examine their stock options programs Now no one as yet knows whether Apple engaged in backdating That's a practice in which companies allow their executives and other employees to buy stock at a lower retroactive, price and thereby maximize
apple joins a growing list of publicly held companies that have been obliged to re-examine their stock options programs. now, no one as yet knows whether apple engaged in backdating. that's a practice in which companies allow their executives and other employees to buy stock at a lower retroactive price and thereby maximize returns.
Back-dating is a kind of insider trading and it's prompted investigations by the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Justice Department, Congress and the Wall Street Journal.
back-dating, is a kind of insider trading and it's prompted investigations by the securities and exchange commission, the justice department, congress and. the wall, street
Back-dating is a kind of insider trading, and it's. prompted investigations. by. the Securities and Exchange Commission the Justice Department Congress and the Wall Street
back-dating is a kind of insider trading and it's prompted investigations by the securities and exchange commission, the justice department, congress and the wall street journal.
Joe Nocera is our friend from the world of business and a columnist for the New York Times. Thanks for being with us, Joe.
joe nocera is our friend from the world of business and a columnist, for the new york times thanks for being with us
Joe Nocera is our friend from the world of business and a columnist for the New York Times Thanks for being with us
joe nocera is our friend from the world of business and a columnist for the new york times. thanks for being with us, joe.
Thanks for having me, Scott.
thanks for having me
Thanks for having me
thanks for having me, scott.
Now, I said insider trading, but to be blunt about it, is this just insider cashing in?
now i said insider trading but to, be blunt about it is this just insider cashing,
Now I said. insider trading but to be blunt about it is this just. insider cashing
now, i said insider trading, but to be blunt about it, is this just insider cashing in?
The practice at its worst is a situation where they wait for the date to pass when the stock hits bottom, so it's already on the way up, and they back-date the granting of the stock option to that bottom, so that the executive is automatically guaranteed a huge gain, you know, tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of free money. So you know, it's a pretty smelly practice at its most venal.
the practice at its worst is a, situation, where they wait. for the date to. pass when. the stock hits bottom so it's already on the way up and they back-date the, granting of the stock option to that bottom so that the executive is automatically, guaranteed a. huge. gain you know tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of free. money so you know, it's a pretty smelly. practice at its most
The practice at its worst is a situation where; they wait for the date. to pass when the stock hits bottom so it's already on the way up and they back-date the granting of the, stock, option to that bottom so that the executive is automatically guaranteed a huge gain you know tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of free money So you know, it's a pretty smelly practice at. its most
the practice at its worst is a situation where they wait for the date to pass when the stock hits bottom, so it's already on the way up, and they back-date the granting of the stock option to that bottom, so that the executive is automatically guaranteed a huge gain, you know, tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of free money. so you know, it's a pretty smelly practice at its most venal.
Now, I understand that somebody in the academic world decided this was worth looking into and established a pattern.
now. i understand that somebody in the. academic world decided this was worth looking into and established a
Now I understand that somebody, in the academic world decided this was worth looking into and established a
now, i understand that somebody in the academic world decided this was worth looking into and established a pattern.
That's exactly right. It's a kind of a form of forensic economics, where an academic will do a study that will show a pattern that seems to be suspicious.
that's exactly. right. it's a kind, of a form of forensic economics where an academic will do a study that will show a, pattern. that seems to be
That's exactly right, It's a kind of a form of forensic economics where an academic will do a study that will show a pattern that seems to be
that's exactly right. it's a kind of a form of forensic economics, where an academic will do a study that will show a pattern that seems to be suspicious.
And so in this particular case, an academic named Erik Lie at the University of Iowa did a study last March where he, you know, showed this continued pattern of executives getting options at the exact low moment before the stock ran up. And he thought to himself, well, you know, there's one of two things going on here. Either these guys can really forecast the future, you know, or they're backdating the options.
and so in this particular case an academic named erik lie at the university of iowa did. a study, last march where he you know showed this continued pattern of executives getting, options at the. exact low moment before the stock ran up and he thought to himself well you know there's one. of two things going on here either these guys can really forecast the future. you, know or they're backdating the
And so. in this particular case an academic named Erik Lie at the, University of Iowa did a study last March, where he. you know showed this continued pattern of executives getting options at the exact low moment before the stock. ran up And. he thought to himself well you, know there's one of two things going on here Either these guys can really; forecast the future you know or they're backdating the
and so in this particular case, an academic named erik lie at the university of iowa did a study last march where he, you know, showed this continued pattern of executives getting options at the exact low moment before the stock ran up. and he thought to himself, well, you know, there's one of two things going on here. either these guys can really forecast the future, you know, or they're backdating the options.
And it's that study that caused both the SEC and the Wall Street Journal to get this out of the theoretical and put it in real terms with real companies, and that's what they've done.
and it's that, study that caused both, the sec. and, the wall street journal. to get. this out of the theoretical and put it in real terms with real companies and that's what they've
And it's that study that caused both the SEC and, the Wall Street, Journal. to get this out of the. theoretical and put it in real terms with real companies and that's what they've
and it's that study that caused both the sec and the wall street journal to get this out of the theoretical and put it in real terms with real companies, and that's what they've done.
Many of the companies that have been named, either formally or informally, as being under SEC scrutiny are tech companies. Is that just coincidence, or is that where the money is or is there something about tech companies that make it more likely?
many of the companies that. have been named either formally or informally as being under sec scrutiny are tech companies is, that just coincidence or is that where the money is or is there. something about tech companies that make it more
Many of the companies that have been named either, formally or informally as being under SEC scrutiny are tech companies Is that just coincidence or is that where the money is or is there something about tech companies that make it more
many of the companies that have been named, either formally or informally, as being under sec scrutiny are tech companies. is that just coincidence, or is that where the money is or is there something about tech companies that make it more likely?
Well, the main thing about tech companies is that their compensation system has been heavily skewed to options for many years. So it's not a giant surprise that companies like Rambus, which makes - a semiconductor company, or Comverse Technologies or Vitesse Semiconductor, have been ensnared.
well the main thing about tech companies is that their compensation system. has been heavily skewed to options for many years, so it's not a giant surprise that companies like rambus which makes. - a semiconductor company or comverse technologies or vitesse semiconductor have been
Well, the main thing about tech companies is that their compensation system has been. heavily skewed to options for many years So it's not a giant surprise that companies like Rambus which makes - a semiconductor company or Comverse Technologies or Vitesse Semiconductor have, been
well, the main thing about tech companies is that their compensation system has been heavily skewed to options for many years. so it's not a giant surprise that companies like rambus, which makes - a semiconductor company, or comverse technologies or vitesse semiconductor, have been ensnared.
It makes sense. However, I should say, it's not entirely tech companies. One of the companies under the most scrutiny right now is United Health Group in Minneapolis, the big HMO, and you know, their CEO got a number of options that appear to be backdated, although the company has not said that and, indeed, is conducting its own internal investigation.
it makes sense however. i should say it's not entirely tech companies one of the companies under the most scrutiny right now is united health group. in minneapolis the big hmo and you know their ceo got a number of options that appear to be backdated although the company has not said that and indeed is conducting its own internal.
It makes sense However I should say it's not; entirely tech companies One of the companies under the most scrutiny right now is United Health Group in Minneapolis the big HMO and you know their CEO got a number of options that appear to be backdated although the company has not, said that and indeed is conducting its own internal
it makes sense. however, i should say, it's not entirely tech companies. one of the companies under the most scrutiny right now is united health group in minneapolis, the big hmo, and you know, their ceo got a number of options that appear to be backdated, although the company has not said that and, indeed, is conducting its own internal investigation.
One of the great mysteries of this, Scott, is how did word spread about this? You know, is it water cooler stuff? Did CEO's just talk to each other and figure this out themselves? Nobody really knows, and therefore it's hard to know how many more companies - how much more widespread this is than it's already been.
one of the great mysteries of this scott is how did word spread. about this? you know is it, water cooler stuff? did ceo's just talk to each other and figure this out themselves? nobody really knows and therefore it's hard, to know how many more companies - how much, more widespread this is than it's; already
One; of the great mysteries of this, Scott is how did word spread; about this? You know is it water cooler stuff? Did CEO's just talk to each other and figure this out themselves? Nobody really knows and therefore it's hard to know how many more companies - how much more widespread this is. than it's already
one of the great mysteries of this, scott, is how did word spread about this? you know, is it water cooler stuff? did ceo's just talk to each other and figure this out themselves? nobody really knows, and therefore it's hard to know how many more companies - how much more widespread this is than it's already been.
Part of the logic of stock options is that it gives a CEO or any executive a stake in the performance of the company. That gets created if what they're just going to do is shop around for the lowest price and then maximize the investment.
part of the, logic of. stock options is that it gives a ceo or any executive a stake in the performance of the company that gets created if what they're, just going to do is shop around for the lowest price and then maximize the
Part of the logic of stock options is that it gives a CEO or any executive a stake in the performance of the company That gets created if what they're just going to do is shop around for the lowest price and then, maximize the
part of the logic of stock options is that it gives a ceo or any executive a stake in the performance of the company. that gets created if what they're just going to do is shop around for the lowest price and then maximize the investment.
The point of options, originally, was to align the executives, and even the rank-and-file when they get stock options, with the shareholder, so that he is incented to try and make the share price go up, and you and I, who are shareholders, are rewarded, and he's rewarded.
the point of options originally was to align the executives and even the rank-and-file when they get stock options; with the shareholder so that he is incented to try and make the share price go up and you and i who are shareholders are rewarded and, he's
The point of options originally was. to align the executives and even the. rank-and-file when they get. stock options. with the shareholder, so that he is incented. to try and. make, the share price go up and you and I who are, shareholders are rewarded and he's
the point of options, originally, was to align the executives, and even the rank-and-file when they get stock options, with the shareholder, so that he is incented to try and make the share price go up, and you and i, who are shareholders, are rewarded, and he's rewarded.
So if you have a situation where, you know, he's rewarded from the very moment he gets the option - he has his reward, it's there - there's been no effort on his part, he's just handed free money. And then, by the way, it's not disclosed in the proxy that that's what they've done. That is, in my opinion, a form of securities fraud.
so. if. you; have a situation where. you know. he's rewarded from the very moment he gets the option - he. has his reward it's there - there's been no effort on his part he's just handed free. money and then by the way it's not. disclosed in the proxy that that's what they've done that is in my opinion a form of securities
So if you have, a situation where you know he's rewarded from the very moment he gets. the option - he has, his reward; it's there. - there's, been no, effort on his part he's just handed free money And then by the way it's not disclosed in the proxy that that's what they've done That is in my opinion a form of securities
so if you have a situation where, you know, he's rewarded from the very moment he gets the option - he has his reward, it's there - there's been no effort on his part, he's just handed free money. and then, by the way, it's not disclosed in the proxy that that's what they've done. that is, in my opinion, a form of securities fraud.
Well, you anticipate my next question. How illegal is this? Are there any gray areas?
well you anticipate my next question how illegal is this? are there any gray
Well you anticipate my next question How illegal is this? Are there. any gray
well, you anticipate my next question. how illegal is this? are there any gray areas?
Oh, there are absolutely gradations here. In some cases executives have been fired, internal investigations are going on. I dare say, there'll likely be some prosecutions. It seems almost a sure thing. Although it's really, really too early to know, you know, how this is going to play out in the courts.
oh there are absolutely gradations here in some; cases executives. have been fired internal investigations are going on i dare say there'll likely be some prosecutions it seems almost. a sure thing although it's really really too early to know you know how, this is going, to play out in the.
Oh there are absolutely gradations here In, some cases executives have been. fired internal investigations are going on I dare, say there'll likely be some prosecutions It seems, almost a sure thing Although it's really really too. early to know you know, how. this is going to play out in the.
oh, there are absolutely gradations here. in some cases executives have been fired, internal investigations are going on. i dare say, there'll likely be some prosecutions. it seems almost a sure thing. although it's really, really too early to know, you know, how this is going to play out in the courts.
Joe Nocera, our friend from the world of business and a columnist for the New York Times, speaking from New York. Joe, thanks very much.
joe nocera our friend from the world of business and a columnist for the new york times speaking from new york joe thanks. very
Joe Nocera our friend from the world. of business and a columnist for the New York Times speaking from New York. Joe thanks very
joe nocera, our friend from the world of business and a columnist for the new york times, speaking from new york. joe, thanks very much.
Thanks for having me, Scott.
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