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pythondev | help | > "Third-party packages should be installed by the application installer alongside the embedded distribution. Using pip to manage dependencies as for a regular Python installation is not supported with this distribution, though with some care it may be possible to include and use pip for automatic updates."
If anyone can explain the above, that'd be great | 2019-04-13T07:49:32.167800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T07:49:32.167800 | 1,555,141,772.1678 | 18,421 |
pythondev | help | <@Conchita> you wouldn't happen to be using Kivy would you? | 2019-04-13T07:50:54.168100 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T07:50:54.168100 | 1,555,141,854.1681 | 18,422 |
pythondev | help | That's a negative | 2019-04-13T07:51:51.168300 | Conchita | pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-04-13T07:51:51.168300 | 1,555,141,911.1683 | 18,423 |
pythondev | help | what happens if you uninstally the google cloud sdk? Can you run things again? | 2019-04-13T08:02:00.168500 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:02:00.168500 | 1,555,142,520.1685 | 18,424 |
pythondev | help | I'll try that now! | 2019-04-13T08:03:20.168700 | Conchita | pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-04-13T08:03:20.168700 | 1,555,142,600.1687 | 18,425 |
pythondev | help | <@Monica> Do you have experience in Kivy? | 2019-04-13T08:11:47.169200 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:11:47.169200 | 1,555,143,107.1692 | 18,426 |
pythondev | help | I'm having trouble building my Kivy App and would greatly appreciate some tips? | 2019-04-13T08:12:08.169600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:12:08.169600 | 1,555,143,128.1696 | 18,427 |
pythondev | help | Will solve problems and code in exchange :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-13T08:12:24.170100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:12:24.170100 | 1,555,143,144.1701 | 18,428 |
pythondev | help | I don't have Kivy experience. But if you tell me what's going on, I might be able to help | 2019-04-13T08:16:34.170500 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:16:34.170500 | 1,555,143,394.1705 | 18,429 |
pythondev | help | i'm trying to build an Android App with python. it's working on my Mac but building the APK is giving me alot of issues | 2019-04-13T08:19:05.172000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:19:05.172000 | 1,555,143,545.172 | 18,430 |
pythondev | help | what is the most reliable way to build an Android App with python? like a Hello World example? | 2019-04-13T08:19:35.172800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:19:35.172800 | 1,555,143,575.1728 | 18,431 |
pythondev | help | what do you mean, specifically?
Well, what aspect of Python are you using? | 2019-04-13T08:19:56.173200 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:19:56.173200 | 1,555,143,596.1732 | 18,432 |
pythondev | help | i'm currently using Buidozer and python-for-android to build my Python code into an App. I'm completely new to mobile development so any guidance/tips would be awesome :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-13T08:21:51.174600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:21:51.174600 | 1,555,143,711.1746 | 18,433 |
pythondev | help | I don't know what I don't know, if that makes sense? | 2019-04-13T08:22:12.175200 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:22:12.175200 | 1,555,143,732.1752 | 18,434 |
pythondev | help | I know exactly what you mean | 2019-04-13T08:22:25.175600 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:22:25.175600 | 1,555,143,745.1756 | 18,435 |
pythondev | help | I'm a data scientist and mathematician, used to backend algorithms | 2019-04-13T08:22:49.176100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:22:49.176100 | 1,555,143,769.1761 | 18,436 |
pythondev | help | hehe for now I just want an Android app that says 'hello world' on a phone :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-13T08:23:27.176800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:23:27.176800 | 1,555,143,807.1768 | 18,437 |
pythondev | help | i'm willing to learn any framework/package to make that happen :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-13T08:24:10.177800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:24:10.177800 | 1,555,143,850.1778 | 18,438 |
pythondev | help | to be honest, if you're struggling with it, I would consider trying out Expo/React | 2019-04-13T08:24:14.177900 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:24:14.177900 | 1,555,143,854.1779 | 18,439 |
pythondev | help | it's a framework that reminds of Ruby on Rails for mobile apps. Really easy to get an app testable on Android. You'll see what I mean | 2019-04-13T08:25:42.179700 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:25:42.179700 | 1,555,143,942.1797 | 18,440 |
pythondev | help | i understand what you are saying | 2019-04-13T08:26:01.180200 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:26:01.180200 | 1,555,143,961.1802 | 18,441 |
pythondev | help | okay so here is a stupid question: | 2019-04-13T08:26:15.181000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:26:15.181000 | 1,555,143,975.181 | 18,442 |
pythondev | help | sorry I should have said Expo + React Native | 2019-04-13T08:26:18.181200 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:26:18.181200 | 1,555,143,978.1812 | 18,443 |
pythondev | help | how do I use a python class in a Java application? | 2019-04-13T08:26:29.181500 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:26:29.181500 | 1,555,143,989.1815 | 18,444 |
pythondev | help | what do you need it to do? | 2019-04-13T08:26:40.181800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:26:40.181800 | 1,555,144,000.1818 | 18,445 |
pythondev | help | apologies I can't disclose sensitive IP | 2019-04-13T08:27:23.182600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:27:23.182600 | 1,555,144,043.1826 | 18,446 |
pythondev | help | but essetially | 2019-04-13T08:27:28.182900 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:27:28.182900 | 1,555,144,048.1829 | 18,447 |
pythondev | help | I don't need the IP. | 2019-04-13T08:27:37.183300 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:27:37.183300 | 1,555,144,057.1833 | 18,448 |
pythondev | help | Just a 30,000 foot view | 2019-04-13T08:27:57.183900 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:27:57.183900 | 1,555,144,077.1839 | 18,449 |
pythondev | help | in python classes | 2019-04-13T08:28:25.185200 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:28:25.185200 | 1,555,144,105.1852 | 18,450 |
pythondev | help | When it comes to opencv, you're asking for some real hell if you try to use it outside of a Python script | 2019-04-13T08:29:31.186900 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:29:31.186900 | 1,555,144,171.1869 | 18,451 |
pythondev | help | but the other things ... | 2019-04-13T08:29:38.187100 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:29:38.187100 | 1,555,144,178.1871 | 18,452 |
pythondev | help | hehehe i assumed as much | 2019-04-13T08:29:48.187300 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:29:48.187300 | 1,555,144,188.1873 | 18,453 |
pythondev | help | the others aren't nearly as bad | 2019-04-13T08:29:56.187700 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:29:56.187700 | 1,555,144,196.1877 | 18,454 |
pythondev | help | that's why i was pushing for a native python app | 2019-04-13T08:30:02.187800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:30:02.187800 | 1,555,144,202.1878 | 18,455 |
pythondev | help | Gotcha | 2019-04-13T08:30:07.188100 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:30:07.188100 | 1,555,144,207.1881 | 18,456 |
pythondev | help | that makes sense | 2019-04-13T08:30:09.188300 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:30:09.188300 | 1,555,144,209.1883 | 18,457 |
pythondev | help | and that's why I was asking | 2019-04-13T08:30:15.188500 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:30:15.188500 | 1,555,144,215.1885 | 18,458 |
pythondev | help | is OpenCv crucial to your application? | 2019-04-13T08:30:27.188800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:30:27.188800 | 1,555,144,227.1888 | 18,459 |
pythondev | help | yes | 2019-04-13T08:30:31.189000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:30:31.189000 | 1,555,144,231.189 | 18,460 |
pythondev | help | ok, in that case, scrap what I said about Expo + React | 2019-04-13T08:30:47.189300 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:30:47.189300 | 1,555,144,247.1893 | 18,461 |
pythondev | help | hehe | 2019-04-13T08:31:10.189700 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:31:10.189700 | 1,555,144,270.1897 | 18,462 |
pythondev | help | i think a good start would be to say hello world and then I can take it from there | 2019-04-13T08:31:32.190200 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:31:32.190200 | 1,555,144,292.1902 | 18,463 |
pythondev | help | so I can learn the python build pipeline, you know? | 2019-04-13T08:31:51.190800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:31:51.190800 | 1,555,144,311.1908 | 18,464 |
pythondev | help | so let me rephrase the question: | 2019-04-13T08:31:58.191000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:31:58.191000 | 1,555,144,318.191 | 18,465 |
pythondev | help | what is the easiest and most reliable way to package a hello word for Android? Written in native python? | 2019-04-13T08:32:35.191900 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:32:35.191900 | 1,555,144,355.1919 | 18,466 |
pythondev | help | I know that I am going to end up devving a custom solution away, i just need a base that works | 2019-04-13T08:34:03.193600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:34:03.193600 | 1,555,144,443.1936 | 18,467 |
pythondev | help | as a python developer, I haven't written any code for android, so I'm definitely not the best to answer that question.
As a general rule, the further you get from creating a to-do list, the more fundamental software development knowledge you will need. An android app with CV capability is about as far as you can get from it.
I see that buildozer has an installation guide. Have you followed at least those steps? | 2019-04-13T08:35:24.195000 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:35:24.195000 | 1,555,144,524.195 | 18,468 |
pythondev | help | i have downloaded the buildozer and python-for-anroid master branches but keep having to alter the source code to move past building and config errors | 2019-04-13T08:36:50.196100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:36:50.196100 | 1,555,144,610.1961 | 18,469 |
pythondev | help | did you make sure you're running python 3? | 2019-04-13T08:37:33.197100 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:37:33.197100 | 1,555,144,653.1971 | 18,470 |
pythondev | help | so i'm running two projects parralel:
project 1: Buildozer and p4a route
project 2: any alternative method | 2019-04-13T08:37:34.197200 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:37:34.197200 | 1,555,144,654.1972 | 18,471 |
pythondev | help | yeah python3 all the way | 2019-04-13T08:37:45.197500 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:37:45.197500 | 1,555,144,665.1975 | 18,472 |
pythondev | help | i'll get the buildozer approach working eventually, but I just feel like somewhere there has to be a better way. what are other devs doing? you know? | 2019-04-13T08:38:35.199000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:38:35.199000 | 1,555,144,715.199 | 18,473 |
pythondev | help | I would expect other devs to write the Android app in Java, since that's the main language for the android platform and it also has OpenCV api in Java | 2019-04-13T08:39:37.200000 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:39:37.200000 | 1,555,144,777.2 | 18,474 |
pythondev | help | "and it also has OpenCV api in Java" -- this makes my life easier | 2019-04-13T08:40:08.200600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:40:08.200600 | 1,555,144,808.2006 | 18,475 |
pythondev | help | it would probably be less work in the long run for you to learn Java than to try to sort this out in Python | 2019-04-13T08:40:23.200900 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:40:23.200900 | 1,555,144,823.2009 | 18,476 |
pythondev | help | ^ that may sound crazy, but I'm telling you that from experience | 2019-04-13T08:40:33.201300 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:40:33.201300 | 1,555,144,833.2013 | 18,477 |
pythondev | help | i know java well etc. I want to take the route that minimises technical debt, you know? | 2019-04-13T08:40:55.201800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:40:55.201800 | 1,555,144,855.2018 | 18,478 |
pythondev | help | always go with the more documented option when doing nontrivial things the first time. There are just way too many things you have no way of knowing otherwise. | 2019-04-13T08:41:27.202500 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:41:27.202500 | 1,555,144,887.2025 | 18,479 |
pythondev | help | Have you looked at these?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMHK6NDVlCM> | 2019-04-13T08:42:39.202800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:42:39.202800 | 1,555,144,959.2028 | 18,480 |
pythondev | help | hehe yeah I have thanks. most of them don't reference package the app itself, and those who do reference packaging, do so very high level | 2019-04-13T08:43:48.204000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:43:48.204000 | 1,555,145,028.204 | 18,481 |
pythondev | help | yeah, I would just do it in Java then | 2019-04-13T08:44:09.204800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T08:44:09.204800 | 1,555,145,049.2048 | 18,482 |
pythondev | help | thanks :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-04-13T08:44:19.205100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:44:19.205100 | 1,555,145,059.2051 | 18,483 |
pythondev | help | thanks for advising, you are always more than welcome to send any code/problems my way to solve. I know 13 coding languages and have written 1 | 2019-04-13T08:45:01.206000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T08:45:01.206000 | 1,555,145,101.206 | 18,484 |
pythondev | help | I do have a question | 2019-04-13T09:19:52.206600 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:19:52.206600 | 1,555,147,192.2066 | 18,485 |
pythondev | help | if anyone can answer | 2019-04-13T09:20:14.206800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:20:14.206800 | 1,555,147,214.2068 | 18,486 |
pythondev | help | > "Third-party packages should be installed by the application installer alongside the embedded distribution. Using pip to manage dependencies as for a regular Python installation is not supported with this distribution, though with some care it may be possible to include and use pip for automatic updates."
How would I install Numpy without pip? | 2019-04-13T09:21:07.207500 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:21:07.207500 | 1,555,147,267.2075 | 18,487 |
pythondev | help | in a way that it'd be packaged with the embedded distribution? | 2019-04-13T09:21:21.207900 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:21:21.207900 | 1,555,147,281.2079 | 18,488 |
pythondev | help | Depends a bit on what this "embedded distribution" is | 2019-04-13T09:24:31.208300 | Raven | pythondev_help_Raven_2019-04-13T09:24:31.208300 | 1,555,147,471.2083 | 18,489 |
pythondev | help | hmm that sounds like a difficult one | 2019-04-13T09:26:09.208800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:26:09.208800 | 1,555,147,569.2088 | 18,490 |
pythondev | help | pip is just a package manager, so go look at pip source code and determine how to do it manually? | 2019-04-13T09:26:55.209600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:26:55.209600 | 1,555,147,615.2096 | 18,491 |
pythondev | help | probably like one or two lines that need to be altered? | 2019-04-13T09:27:10.210100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:27:10.210100 | 1,555,147,630.2101 | 18,492 |
pythondev | help | my 2 cents | 2019-04-13T09:27:15.210300 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:27:15.210300 | 1,555,147,635.2103 | 18,493 |
pythondev | help | say for example, I want to have access to numpy in my ED. What do I need to do to accomplish that? | 2019-04-13T09:31:17.210900 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:31:17.210900 | 1,555,147,877.2109 | 18,494 |
pythondev | help | damn that's a hard question. i'm going to look into it and come back to you? | 2019-04-13T09:32:33.211700 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:32:33.211700 | 1,555,147,953.2117 | 18,495 |
pythondev | help | and how would one do an embedded distribution for a platform besides windows | 2019-04-13T09:32:37.211800 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:32:37.211800 | 1,555,147,957.2118 | 18,496 |
pythondev | help | they have the .zip for windows, but it contains a .exe | 2019-04-13T09:33:00.212500 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:33:00.212500 | 1,555,147,980.2125 | 18,497 |
pythondev | help | Most Python environments have a `Lib\site-packages` directory. 3rd party packages like Numpy live in there. | 2019-04-13T09:33:24.213100 | Raven | pythondev_help_Raven_2019-04-13T09:33:24.213100 | 1,555,148,004.2131 | 18,498 |
pythondev | help | yeah but those site-packages need to be built dont they? | 2019-04-13T09:34:30.213500 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:34:30.213500 | 1,555,148,070.2135 | 18,499 |
pythondev | help | like setup.py build ? | 2019-04-13T09:34:37.213800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:34:37.213800 | 1,555,148,077.2138 | 18,500 |
pythondev | help | or am I wrong? | 2019-04-13T09:34:40.214100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:34:40.214100 | 1,555,148,080.2141 | 18,501 |
pythondev | help | the ED .zip archive for windows doesn't have that dir in there | 2019-04-13T09:35:15.214700 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:35:15.214700 | 1,555,148,115.2147 | 18,502 |
pythondev | help | Mostly they're just plain packages | 2019-04-13T09:35:23.215000 | Raven | pythondev_help_Raven_2019-04-13T09:35:23.215000 | 1,555,148,123.215 | 18,503 |
pythondev | help | ok | 2019-04-13T09:35:52.215300 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:35:52.215300 | 1,555,148,152.2153 | 18,504 |
pythondev | help | why does windows have a very clear way to do ED and Mac doesn't? | 2019-04-13T09:36:07.215700 | Monica | pythondev_help_Monica_2019-04-13T09:36:07.215700 | 1,555,148,167.2157 | 18,505 |
pythondev | help | You would set the search path to whichever library directory you want | 2019-04-13T09:36:27.216100 | Raven | pythondev_help_Raven_2019-04-13T09:36:27.216100 | 1,555,148,187.2161 | 18,506 |
pythondev | help | Has anyone here used python in powerbi | 2019-04-13T09:47:57.216400 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:47:57.216400 | 1,555,148,877.2164 | 18,507 |
pythondev | help | i've used R in powerbi | 2019-04-13T09:53:11.216600 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:53:11.216600 | 1,555,149,191.2166 | 18,508 |
pythondev | help | python should be the same | 2019-04-13T09:53:16.216800 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:53:16.216800 | 1,555,149,196.2168 | 18,509 |
pythondev | help | what are you struggling with? | 2019-04-13T09:53:22.217100 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:53:22.217100 | 1,555,149,202.2171 | 18,510 |
pythondev | help | In power query | 2019-04-13T09:53:23.217200 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:53:23.217200 | 1,555,149,203.2172 | 18,511 |
pythondev | help | I want to | 2019-04-13T09:53:27.217400 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:53:27.217400 | 1,555,149,207.2174 | 18,512 |
pythondev | help | Use this data set | 2019-04-13T09:53:33.217600 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:53:33.217600 | 1,555,149,213.2176 | 18,513 |
pythondev | help | <https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2014/05/07/nba-maps/b8478ccc20899afc61da41d23e4d2edbcfb5c484/counties/counties.json> | 2019-04-13T09:53:51.217800 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:53:51.217800 | 1,555,149,231.2178 | 18,514 |
pythondev | help | Or | 2019-04-13T09:53:55.218000 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:53:55.218000 | 1,555,149,235.218 | 18,515 |
pythondev | help | <https://gist.github.com/itadder/6feb2647a36fa00749d326bed8e120ba> | 2019-04-13T09:54:16.218400 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:54:16.218400 | 1,555,149,256.2184 | 18,516 |
pythondev | help | Now sure how I can get this flat for powerbi useage | 2019-04-13T09:54:24.218700 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:54:24.218700 | 1,555,149,264.2187 | 18,517 |
pythondev | help | <@Erika> I can’t figure out how I transform this to a useable table in power bi | 2019-04-13T09:56:40.219500 | Gia | pythondev_help_Gia_2019-04-13T09:56:40.219500 | 1,555,149,400.2195 | 18,518 |
pythondev | help | FILE=file.txt | 2019-04-13T09:58:59.220000 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:58:59.220000 | 1,555,149,539.22 | 18,519 |
pythondev | help | with open(FILE,'r') as f: | 2019-04-13T09:59:17.220700 | Erika | pythondev_help_Erika_2019-04-13T09:59:17.220700 | 1,555,149,557.2207 | 18,520 |
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