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is there a channel where i can ask for help with my algorithm or abstract solution to a given problem, without posting any code? Or rather get feedback if i did well or where i could improve.
2019-04-15T07:24:40.402100
Leida
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would <#C8W1XRJSE|architecture> be the right place?
2019-04-15T07:29:38.402700
Leida
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here is as good as any
2019-04-15T07:32:07.403000
Hiroko
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alright :smile:
2019-04-15T07:35:07.403200
Leida
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The problem: ```Create a programme that uses any text file with random content as an input, and checks all the words contained in such text file for letter combinations consisting of more than 3 letters. Programme output will consist in up to 10 most common letter combinations and their difference in percentage displayed as a table and a bar chart. ```
2019-04-15T07:35:28.403500
Leida
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Sample solution:``` The content of the input file: hall feels heels Output: Frequencies: eels: 28.57% feel: 14.29% heel: 14.29% hall: 14.29% feels: 14.29% heels: 14.29% ```
2019-04-15T07:35:44.403700
Leida
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My solution:``` 1. Character stream -&gt; 2. word detector and input buffer -&gt; 3. combinations finder -&gt; 4. storage. -&gt; End of file -&gt; 5. sorting -&gt; 6. table/graph output. 1. Character stream. Reads the file one character at a time. 2. Word detector and input buffer. Has internal memory for several characters. When an invalid character is received the buffer is reset to empty. When there are 4 or more characters in the buffer, the contents of the buffer are emited to the next function in the pipeline. Even after emitting, the contents are kept. Only invalid characters reset the buffer. 3. Combinations finder. The received word is the first combination. It gets emitted into the following function. Remove the first character in the word. If the length is atleast 4 emit that too. Keep removing the first letter and emitting until there are less than 4 characters. 4. Storage. Stores the combination and the occurance count. If the combination exists add 1 to the counter. If it doesnt exist set it to 1. After adding each occurance add 1 to total counter. End of file reached. 5. Sorting. Read through the stored data and keep track of the 10 most used combinations. 6. Print table and diagram. Table - each row is the combination + the occurance percentage. Percentage is the number of occurances/total combinations * 100%. Diagram can be an ascii of |-------. Percentage * “-” as the bar. Both need some formating to look nice. ```
2019-04-15T07:35:59.403900
Leida
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The goal is to optimize it to the max, handle all the errors and general showing off of skills ^^
2019-04-15T07:39:44.404600
Leida
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`collections.Counter(file.read().split(“ “)).most_common(10)`
2019-04-15T08:10:03.405900
Jonas
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Recently I have started to import modules or other scripts inside functions so they are only imported if I need them. Is this good practice? If not, why?
2019-04-15T08:20:14.406900
Conchita
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``` def collect(url): import request # do something ```
2019-04-15T08:21:25.408100
Conchita
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would have to split the words into combinations tho: "words" becomes "word", "ords", "words"
2019-04-15T08:27:14.409000
Leida
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i like the Counter tho :smile:
2019-04-15T08:28:18.409200
Leida
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probably better for performance, but i think PEP8 prefers if all imports are at the top of the file. I might be wrong though <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#imports>
2019-04-15T08:29:24.409400
Renay
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so `split()` should be replaced by some `tokenize()`
2019-04-15T08:29:30.409700
Leida
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umm i think i have seen it used in the wild but in general if you have a function in a file that needs some imports but its never used then why have the function?
2019-04-15T08:37:36.410800
Leida
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what happens when you try to import again?
2019-04-15T08:39:02.412200
Leida
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wouldnt that incur some overhead?
2019-04-15T08:39:16.412500
Leida
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import are cached so not really
2019-04-15T08:39:33.412900
Jimmy
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but I think it's considered good practice to have all imports at the same place (the top)
2019-04-15T08:39:51.413400
Jimmy
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I could see an use case if importing a module takes a lot of time otherwise meh
2019-04-15T08:40:36.414100
Jimmy
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The functions are there because they are sometime used
2019-04-15T08:40:46.414400
Conchita
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because you'll need to duplicate import for each function to be sure it's imported there
2019-04-15T08:40:56.414900
Jimmy
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so more work for almost no gain
2019-04-15T08:41:03.415300
Jimmy
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Yes someone linked me the pep-8 guide where it states you should have all imports in the first lines
2019-04-15T08:41:36.416100
Conchita
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Yep it does say that! Thanks!
2019-04-15T08:41:48.416200
Conchita
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the only case I can see using imports locally in a function is if you’re doing something with async tasks that don’t get called frequently
2019-04-15T08:54:20.416900
Hiroko
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I would also say that its a negative for readability and knowing what stuff is being used
2019-04-15T08:55:06.417400
Hiroko
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for example, you have a file with lots of functions in it that are dedicated to a thing. If you continually import locally, you get lots of duplicated imports
2019-04-15T08:55:49.418200
Hiroko
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The other case is if you have circular imports
2019-04-15T08:57:06.419200
Jonas
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which happens in some specific cases that are hard to avoid. But in general, no, please don't do that kind of import :smile: Add them to the top.
2019-04-15T08:57:36.420100
Jonas
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if you have circular imports you ought to look at refactoring your code. There are ways around it
2019-04-15T08:58:56.421000
Renay
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I think you want <https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html#itertools.product> for tha
2019-04-15T08:59:02.421100
Jonas
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not always unfortunately :disappointed:
2019-04-15T08:59:13.421900
Jonas
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and in some cases refactoring the code is worse
2019-04-15T08:59:33.422500
Jonas
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you end up splitting your code out in illogical places just to avoid it
2019-04-15T08:59:44.422800
Jonas
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but in general your approach is sound <@Leida>. Try and code it and we can give more feedback
2019-04-15T09:01:06.423000
Jonas
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thank you for taking a look!
2019-04-15T09:03:28.423200
Leida
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Meh. In C-like languages, declaring all variables at the top of the scope used to be required, then it held on as a style guide rule, and then finally fell out of favor a long time ago. Because declaring names close to the point of use is useful. Python imports are a similar mechanism, so the PEP8 rule always seemed wrong as a hard rule. Prefer the top, but don't insist on it.
2019-04-15T10:03:47.431800
Hildegard
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problem I see with that is when you’re declaring at points of multiple usage, the scope of the import doesn’t bubble up
2019-04-15T10:06:19.432900
Hiroko
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so you end up having to import the same thing multiple times
2019-04-15T10:06:38.433300
Hiroko
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and whats the “point of usage”?
2019-04-15T10:06:47.433700
Hiroko
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that can work the first time around for a simple thing, but I can see that being a pain in the butt for a larger project
2019-04-15T10:07:21.434300
Hiroko
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Sure, so the widely used ones go at the top. In general, doing a good job at organizing will probably lead to that. But maybe in a less critical script I'm defining a CLI at the bottom and that's where I want argparse and sys if that's the only place I need it
2019-04-15T10:13:47.438300
Hildegard
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Extreme point of usage example `import pdb; pdb.set_trace()`
2019-04-15T10:18:49.439300
Hildegard
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I use that alot, FWIW
2019-04-15T10:24:53.439600
Hiroko
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but it never makes it to a code commit
2019-04-15T10:25:00.439900
Hiroko
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Sure, but I'm arguing that the reasons that familiar idiom is useful don't vanish in literally all other cases
2019-04-15T10:27:52.441300
Hildegard
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Interesting brain teaser from our CEO today: &gt; Write down the equation: &gt; 65 – 43 = 21. &gt; You’ll notice that this is not correct. 65 minus 43 equals 22, not 21. The object is to move exactly two of the digits to create a correct equation. There is no trick in the puzzle’s wording. In the answer, the minus and equal signs do not move. I had a go using itertools to enumerate all possible swaps, and no equation is correct. But then I realised you can move digits rather than swap them: ie. `654 + 3 = 21`
2019-04-15T10:29:12.444700
Jonas
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So my question is: How would you solve this in Python? There has to be an elegant way, but it's escaping me
2019-04-15T10:29:29.445600
Jonas
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Pandas uses it to manage some optional dependencies <https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas/blob/v0.24.2/pandas/core/frame.py#L2119-L2131> . Is this the best possible way? Maybe not, but neither should they be forced to restructure "because PEP8"
2019-04-15T10:30:30.447200
Hildegard
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I have a function that accepts kwargs into it, but then also within that function I call other functions that I pass different kwargs to, is there a specific naming convention to follow when this situation occurs? ``` def my_func(a, b, **kwargs): if 'something' in kwargs: #do something #is there a specific naming convention? kwargs = {'something_else':True} c = 'Hello' d = 'world' call_other_function(c , d, **kwargs) ```
2019-04-15T10:31:08.448000
Arturo
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maybe using `itertools.combinations` ? :thinking_face:
2019-04-15T10:33:04.448500
Jimmy
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yeah, but you need to account for all possible movements
2019-04-15T10:34:46.448800
Jonas
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that is, switching two numbers as well as shifting them between expressions
2019-04-15T10:35:06.449000
Jonas
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And, exactly two movements
2019-04-15T10:36:33.449200
Jonas
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that's actually a tricky one hehe
2019-04-15T10:38:06.449500
Carlo
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I was going on about some solution using all permutations then moving operands around but kinda forgot about the two movements thing lol
2019-04-15T10:38:47.449700
Carlo
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options?
2019-04-15T10:39:43.450100
Jettie
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kwargs is a convention when you declare a function, but apart from that if you create a dict to later unpack into another function call you're free to use any name
2019-04-15T10:40:15.450800
Jettie
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it reminds me when <@Genesis> used to ask some trick question :stuck_out_tongue:
2019-04-15T10:41:19.450900
Jimmy
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If it was one we could just do something super hacky: `[eval(x) for x in itertools.permutations(['6', '5', '-', '4', '3', '==', '2', '1'])]`
2019-04-15T10:41:52.451100
Jonas
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:grimacing:
2019-04-15T10:42:09.451300
Genesis
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obviously catching any invalid syntax errors, but it would enumerate all possible movements.
2019-04-15T10:42:11.451500
Jonas
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but yeah, accounting for exactly two moves? I'm really not sure how to do that
2019-04-15T10:42:32.451700
Jonas
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To handle shifts, maybe start by getting a list of each digit. And then do some slicing. Not sure that will pan out
2019-04-15T10:44:29.451900
Hildegard
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This is fun. I'll write you up an answer in 30ish minutes
2019-04-15T10:44:42.452100
Genesis
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Fwiw, matplotlob uses `subplot_kws`, `scatter_kws`.
2019-04-15T10:46:03.453800
Hildegard
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```In [71]: for a1, b1, c1 in itertools.filterfalse(lambda a: sum(a)!=6, itertools.product(range(1, 4), range(1, 4), range(1, 4))): ...: for a_group, b_group, c_group in itertools.filterfalse(lambda a: len(set(a[0] + a[1] + a[2])) != len(numbers), itertools.product(itertools.permutations(numbers, a1), itertools.permutations(numbers, b1), itertools.permutations(numbers, c1))): ...: # print(a_group, b_group, c_group) ...: a = int("".join(a_group)) ...: b = int("".join(b_group)) ...: c = int("".join(c_group)) ...: if (a - b) == c: ...: print(a, b, c) ...: break ...: ...:``` This bruteforces every possible combination of those numbers in that sum, and it still doesn't find anything valid :confused:
2019-04-15T11:04:07.454500
Jonas
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im reading online that you can call an dictionary index via 'd.keys()[0]'. however, im getting an error ''dict_keys' object does not support indexing'. Is this truly possible?
2019-04-15T11:06:37.455400
Nenita
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&gt; There is no trick in the puzzle’s wording <@Jonas> if that's the case I have a feeling this doesn't mean "there is no trick at all"
2019-04-15T11:06:38.455500
Carlo
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what python version?
2019-04-15T11:07:02.455800
Clemmie
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3
2019-04-15T11:07:40.456000
Nenita
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it did say that in 2 you can use .keys()[index], but was hoping there was some method in 3
2019-04-15T11:08:01.456700
Nenita
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I think in 3 they changed `.keys()` to return a `dict_keys` object instead of a standard list, which might be causing that issue
2019-04-15T11:08:40.458100
Cherish
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yeah, in python 3 `keys()` is a view object - you want to do `list(d.keys())[0]`
2019-04-15T11:08:48.458300
Clemmie
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```python -c "d = {'a': 1, 'b': 2}; print(type(d.keys()))" &lt;class 'dict_keys'&gt;```
2019-04-15T11:08:50.458500
Cherish
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alright, perfectly solved my problem. Thank you. List seems to be a very power function (if its a function :confused:, i read that len() isn't considered a function).
2019-04-15T11:10:03.459400
Nenita
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list isn’t a function - when you call that around an iterable you are `cast` ing
2019-04-15T11:11:44.459800
Clemmie
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<@Jonas> doesnt look like you considered changing the answer as well
2019-04-15T11:13:10.459900
Genesis
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I think I did? that's `c_group`. In any case, the apparent solution was `65 - 4^3 = 1^2` :joy:
2019-04-15T11:14:22.460100
Jonas
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Oof
2019-04-15T11:15:42.460600
Genesis
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a bit tricky
2019-04-15T11:21:12.460800
Jimmy
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I may be opening a can of worms with this question, but I'm a little confused on which tool I should use to handle python environments and packages. In my research I'm coming across things like `virtualenv`, `pipenv`, `poetry`, `conda`/`anaconda`. What's _good_, or what is considered _best practice_?
2019-04-15T11:31:18.463300
Nicholle
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I personally use Pyenv and virtualenvwrapper. The first is to “install” any python version you want either globally or locally and the second is to create environments, super convenient… check out this gist <https://gist.github.com/SebastiaAgramunt/5185ccf8637e69f611bd1217a98289b2>
2019-04-15T11:47:07.463800
Lance
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if you start now with python and data science anaconda is perhaps the easiest approach. Let me know if it helps or need me to explain something
2019-04-15T11:48:34.464000
Lance
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Thanks, that makes sense. I think my problem is that I'm coming from languages with a _de-facto_ package management system (`npm`, `cargo`, `stack`, etc), and I'm finding that python doesn't have a _standard_ per se, and there are benefits and disadvantages to each approach.
2019-04-15T11:58:41.464400
Nicholle
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Well, in Python the package manager is pip. If you look at a typical python project there’s always a requirements.txt (you do ```pip install -r requirements.txt``` to install those in your environment) with all the packages you need and in the docu the python version the developer has used. I don’t know a lot of software development though…
2019-04-15T12:04:42.464600
Lance
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here’s the way to package your software <https://packaging.python.org/tutorials/packaging-projects/>
2019-04-15T12:06:23.464900
Lance
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Part of your confusion about a standard is that Python has been around for longer than most of those other languages, so they got to benefit from starting out with a single officially-approved package management system. They knew it was needed, and included it from the start. Python didn't have that benefit, so it has a bunch of different options available.
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Carmen
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*from where people rolled their own solutions, and so did everyone else.
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Carmen
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a bit disingenuous honestly
2019-04-15T12:37:08.465700
Carlo
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"There is no trick in the puzzle’s wording" but "moving" didn't mean what was implied :stuck_out_tongue:
2019-04-15T12:38:03.465900
Carlo
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ok, i just ran into a huge pickle. I have a single dictionary that is assigned across a multitude of dates. Therefore, each date has its own dictionary. The problem is when I update a value in any of the dictionaries, every date's dictionary updates with the same value. In other words, its acting as a single dictionary rather than each date having its own independant dictionary. How can i get around this?]
2019-04-15T12:39:29.467700
Nenita
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I need to assign each date it's own dictionary but how can i do that with a for loop and keep it from using the same dictionary? I just need it to copy the dictionary structure and keep it independant to its' date.
2019-04-15T12:40:32.468700
Nenita
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We need to see some code to figure out exactly what's going wrong.
2019-04-15T12:41:29.469100
Carmen
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My first guess without seeing anything is that you're probably declaring a single dictionary to start, and then assigning that dictionary reference to multiple variables.
2019-04-15T12:41:55.469900
Carmen
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<@Nenita> you'll have to make a copy of the dictionary for each date, not assign the same dict
2019-04-15T12:41:58.470100
Carlo
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None
2019-04-15T12:42:42.470600
Nenita
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`copy.deepcopy` is your friend. <https://docs.python.org/3.7/library/copy.html>
2019-04-15T12:42:52.471200
Carmen
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