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clojurians | clojure | I'd just use Java for that. | 2017-10-28T21:39:36.000060 | Bibi |
clojurians | clojure | Yea, that makes sense. | 2017-10-28T21:40:15.000016 | Araceli |
clojurians | clojure | yeah - particularly because of the issues with boxed numerics, it's just easier to write a bit of java once you know which code has to be that fast | 2017-10-28T21:40:34.000009 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | <@Margaret> True. Although, it seems like (from what I can tell from <http://insideclojure.org/2014/12/15/warn-on-boxed/>), unboxed math is possible in Clojure. | 2017-10-28T21:41:45.000048 | Araceli |
clojurians | clojure | it's possible, it's a pain to get right | 2017-10-28T21:43:17.000022 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | <@Bibi> <@Jonas> <@Margaret> Well, thank you for your responses. I think I should go reconsider what I am doing and why, as it sounds like I may be entering "when all you have is a hammer" territory. | 2017-10-28T21:43:23.000001 | Araceli |
clojurians | clojure | I think one of the nice things for clojure is that if you do want to use some of the great work in the jvm ecosystem, you can use it as needed | 2017-10-28T21:44:06.000100 | Jonas |
clojurians | clojure | So, I just went to look at the Benchmarks Game to see how they micro-optimized algorithms in Clojure. Unfortunately, it looks like, at some point recently, they removed Clojure from their languages list. | 2017-10-28T21:47:42.000084 | Araceli |
clojurians | clojure | Wat? | 2017-10-28T22:54:01.000049 | Sonny |
clojurians | clojure | Looks like it was removed from the web site on sept 20th, along with scala? | 2017-10-28T23:10:09.000033 | Sonny |
clojurians | clojure | 32-bit core is available <http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u32/> | 2017-10-28T23:32:05.000045 | Lovie |
clojurians | clojure | <@Lovie> Looks like that one's full of dead links, unfortunately. I can click into the language pages, but not the implementation source code pages. It just returns 404 Not Found. | 2017-10-28T23:51:48.000046 | Araceli |
clojurians | clojure | 2016 clojure removed? Guess we'll have to wait until 2032... "abandoned in 2002...restarted in 2004...continued from 2008...Everything has changed; several times." <https://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/sometimes-people-just-make-up-stuff.html> | 2017-10-29T02:24:42.000026 | Lovie |
clojurians | clojure | anyone know a handy way to detect circular dependencies in graphs? | 2017-10-29T05:03:15.000064 | Kristy |
clojurians | clojure | I took a look at ubergraph and loom, no luck | 2017-10-29T05:03:39.000001 | Kristy |
clojurians | clojure | <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarjan%27s_strongly_connected_components_algorithm> | 2017-10-29T05:05:53.000045 | Hedwig |
clojurians | clojure | should be translated to clojure very quickly | 2017-10-29T05:06:03.000024 | Hedwig |
clojurians | clojure | can eventually try out, thanks!
meanwhile checking if I can steal something off `stuartsierra/component ` | 2017-10-29T05:06:45.000043 | Kristy |
clojurians | clojure | <https://github.com/stuartsierra/dependency/blob/master/src/com/stuartsierra/dependency.cljc#L89> | 2017-10-29T05:11:43.000056 | Kristy |
clojurians | clojure | @vemv isn't <http://aysy.lu/loom/loom.alg.html#var-dag.3F> what you need ? | 2017-10-29T05:28:20.000038 | Rosia |
clojurians | clojure | guess so! `(def has-circular-dependencies? (complement dag?))` ? | 2017-10-29T05:48:35.000005 | Kristy |
clojurians | clojure | yes, a dag has no cycle by definition | 2017-10-29T06:04:42.000022 | Rosia |
clojurians | clojure | this function won't give you the culprit however | 2017-10-29T06:06:02.000024 | Rosia |
clojurians | clojure | Does anyone know how to add accents or diacritical marks to characters? As in add ¨ to a to make ä? | 2017-10-29T06:08:06.000049 | Jermaine |
clojurians | clojure | Found that you can do "e\u0305". | 2017-10-29T06:23:56.000080 | Jermaine |
clojurians | clojure | <https://github.com/funcool/clojure.jdbc>
Comparing to *java.jdbc* I like clearer docs and simpler API, especially that there's a difference between connections/dbspecs and how transactions are implemented. Other advantages are pointed out in the FAQ: <http://funcool.github.io/clojure.jdbc/latest/#why-another-jdbc-wrapper> | 2017-10-29T07:59:36.000001 | Adele |
clojurians | clojure | By chance I happened across this yesterday:
<http://clj-me.cgrand.net/2013/03/18/tarjans-strongly-connected-components-algorithm/>
It sounds like it's maybe not what you need, <@Kristy>, but FYI just in case it's useful to you. | 2017-10-29T12:16:18.000067 | Adelaida |
clojurians | clojure | I'm not having much luck trying to write a pmap-like function that times-out after a specified number of milliseconds. I tried two implementations: one with futures and one with core.async. The more complicated futures one passes tests but doesn't stop processes when running in my project. The core.async one is even worse in that regard. I'm new to core.async. If you care to take a look, the code is here: <https://github.com/pdenno/utils4pmap/blob/master/src/pdenno/utils4pmap.clj> There are tests in utils4pmap_test.clj | 2017-10-29T18:55:37.000110 | Sherryl |
clojurians | clojure | `(re-find #"[0-9]+(\.[0-9]*)?" "29482asdf")`
this returns a vector [complete-match ... groups ... ]
is there a way to have it just return the full-match, and not all the intermediate groups ?
(I know that I can call first, but I'm trying to get an interface to re-find where it just returns compete string, instead of all groups) | 2017-10-29T22:24:00.000119 | Berry |
clojurians | clojure | you can use non capturing groups, `(re-find #"[0-9]+(?:\.[0-9]*)?" "29482asdf")` | 2017-10-29T22:32:46.000035 | Jonas |
clojurians | clojure | by adding the `?:` at the start of the group | 2017-10-29T22:32:59.000031 | Jonas |
clojurians | clojure | <@Jonas>: that is much nicer than my current solution of:
```
(defn re-find0 [pat s]
(let [ans (re-find pat s)]
(if (vector? ans)
(first ans)
ans)))
``` | 2017-10-30T00:26:23.000076 | Berry |
clojurians | clojure | future-cancel is unreliable, if you want something to be cancellable you need to ensure it regularly calls some cancellable method (the list is relatively short) <https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/Future.html#cancel(boolean)> | 2017-10-30T02:14:43.000032 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | <@Marla> <@Herminia> Around the time, you are visiting the meetup in prague on December, 6th, are you able to visit or speak on another meetup nearby? | 2017-10-30T03:42:37.000168 | Hermelinda |
clojurians | clojure | How do you pass data from `clojure.test` fixtures to tests (e.g a db connection where you don't know the port at write time)? | 2017-10-30T05:37:04.000278 | Lesia |
clojurians | clojure | how do I create a regex that only ma5ches +-*/
`[+-*/]` ==> invalid character range | 2017-10-30T06:57:50.000199 | Berry |
clojurians | clojure | you need to escape the - | 2017-10-30T06:58:57.000213 | Weston |
clojurians | clojure | oh, it's looking for a range of '+' to "*/" ? | 2017-10-30T06:59:29.000454 | Berry |
clojurians | clojure | I can see that being an invalid range | 2017-10-30T06:59:38.000288 | Berry |
clojurians | clojure | `#"[+\-*/]"` worked; thanks | 2017-10-30T07:00:10.000276 | Berry |
clojurians | clojure | Guys Hi, Is there a problem with clojars? I can not download any dependencies, getting a protol version error? | 2017-10-30T07:54:53.000061 | Dane |
clojurians | clojure | <@Berry>, I think alternatively you can move the dash to the end of the character group | 2017-10-30T08:08:25.000039 | Fe |
clojurians | clojure | <@Dane> clojars is working for me. Can you gist the output you see? | 2017-10-30T08:12:36.000414 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | <@Candi> <https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4bd2d48f05502968313e8b0cdc656826> here is the output | 2017-10-30T09:15:12.000132 | Dane |
clojurians | clojure | What is the output of `lein version`? | 2017-10-30T09:16:38.000215 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | Leiningen 2.8.1 on Java 1.7.0_51 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM | 2017-10-30T09:17:20.000362 | Dane |
clojurians | clojure | Did you just recently update lein? 2.8.0 changed the clojars url to point to the CDN instead of the server, and it's possible that old version of java doesn't have the proper TLS features to work with the CDN | 2017-10-30T09:20:07.000133 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | you definitely should update java | 2017-10-30T09:21:06.000537 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | 1.7 reached it’s end of life ages ago | 2017-10-30T09:21:19.000130 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | yes i updated lein it 4-5 hours ago | 2017-10-30T09:21:49.000412 | Dane |
clojurians | clojure | java 7 supports SNI which would be the most obvious reason for it to not work | 2017-10-30T09:22:18.000194 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | but then again, it might be the CDN is using very strict crypto algorithms for it’s TLS support which might not be supported by java 7 | 2017-10-30T09:22:56.000111 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | I’m still with java 8, I haven’t updated to 9 because of clojure and lein | 2017-10-30T09:23:20.000179 | Geneva |
clojurians | clojure | leiningen now works with java 9 with the latest update but one cannot say the same about all libraries | 2017-10-30T09:23:43.000032 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | It gives error on 9, at least it gave it to me, I don’t remember the error | 2017-10-30T09:23:43.000083 | Geneva |
clojurians | clojure | and clojure 1.9-beta3 at least works with java 9 | 2017-10-30T09:24:00.000379 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | i am now updating java then | 2017-10-30T09:24:23.000097 | Dane |
clojurians | clojure | I saw some ppl saying to use clojure 1.9 with java 9, well, stable things should be with stable clojure for now (1.8) | 2017-10-30T09:24:23.000461 | Geneva |
clojurians | clojure | We tested the CDN with the latest java 6 when we were setting it up, and it worked, but it's possible that was due to a patch release, and maybe there is a patch to java 7 that provides the same support | 2017-10-30T09:24:26.000357 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | <@Dane> stick with java 8 for now | 2017-10-30T09:24:37.000090 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | not everything is up to speed with java 9 which brought the module mechanism which is partly backwards incompatible | 2017-10-30T09:24:59.000288 | Cecilia |
clojurians | clojure | (Clojure has always worked on Java 9, it was Lein and Boot that were late to the party. Both are fixed now) | 2017-10-30T09:25:01.000461 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | <@Guillermo> but clojure 1.8? | 2017-10-30T09:25:21.000004 | Geneva |
clojurians | clojure | if you can't update java, you can add the following to your `:user` profile in `~/.lein/profiles.clj`:
```
:repositories [["clojars" {:url "<https://clojars.org/repo>"}]]
:plugin-repositories [["clojars" {:url "<https://clojars.org/repo>"}]]
``` | 2017-10-30T09:25:30.000342 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | Yup, that worked too <@Geneva> | 2017-10-30T09:25:41.000137 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | Hmm, I will try again with lein latest version | 2017-10-30T09:26:01.000084 | Geneva |
clojurians | clojure | That will point you back at the server-based repo instead of the CDN | 2017-10-30T09:26:26.000329 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | which is what you were using before lein 2.8.0 | 2017-10-30T09:26:37.000215 | Candi |
clojurians | clojure | btw updating java solved the problem. Thanks all | 2017-10-30T10:25:21.000220 | Dane |
clojurians | clojure | #lazyweb Has anyone here done performance comparisons of crypto from Java security providers (built-in or Bouncy Castle) vs. binding to a C library? | 2017-10-30T12:36:28.000230 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | I am working on a wrapper for a Java library (<https://github.com/ajoberstar/ike.cljj>) The library has a lot of varargs in it which can frequently be wrapped with clojure variadics. This requires a bit of arity overloading. The problem is that the original java has typed arguments in addition to differences in arity. What is the recommended way of dealing with this?
Here is an example <https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/nio/file/Files.html#createTempDirectory(java.nio.file.Path,%20java.lang.String,%20java.nio.file.attribute.FileAttribute...)>
I have three ideas: 1) in the implementation for the particular arity, check the type of the object dynamically. 2) treat it like a multimethod, let the dispatch function decide. 3) create separate function names for the wrapping function. | 2017-10-30T12:38:55.000404 | Fairy |
clojurians | clojure | <@Fairy> a lot of the wrappers libs turn FileAttribute... into a set of keywords. I would not force varargs on the caller. | 2017-10-30T12:46:08.000191 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | I wouldn't mind if a library _only_ helped me create a set of FileAttributes. I have no issues with calling interop code directly. A lot of times it's clearer. `(Files/createTempDirectory p s (make-a-set-of-attrs))` | 2017-10-30T12:49:39.000168 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | <@Guillermo> I see your point. The ugly bit is the java-vararg, if that were simpler then the wrapper is not doing much. | 2017-10-30T12:53:09.000291 | Fairy |
clojurians | clojure | Varargs in java are just syntactic, it's still fixed arity under the hood. The overloads for createTempDirectory are 2-arity and 3-arity, the clojure ones could be the same thing. | 2017-10-30T12:57:07.000371 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | <@Guillermo> I think the point here is that a java-varargs list of options such as FileAttribute is better treated in clojure as a collection, probably a hashmap. In that case the 2-arity can check if the second arg is a map and make the right call. Another way would be to provide a function for constructing the options array from a hashmap and using the java interop directly. | 2017-10-30T13:10:51.000271 | Fairy |
clojurians | clojure | sounds good. | 2017-10-30T13:11:17.000772 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | hashmap or simple keyword set `#{:read :write}`, since the attrs are only boolean flags | 2017-10-30T13:11:57.000311 | Guillermo |
clojurians | clojure | Hi, Clojure intermediate here. What is the best way to read big endian binary file? | 2017-10-30T13:13:33.000156 | Alice |
clojurians | clojure | <@Alice> do you need to make something that parses the binary contents, does it suffice to just get the bytes in an array? | 2017-10-30T13:19:42.000080 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Yes. | 2017-10-30T13:20:28.000068 | Alice |
clojurians | clojure | which one? | 2017-10-30T13:20:40.000169 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Sorry, what exactly do you mean? | 2017-10-30T13:22:30.000707 | Alice |
clojurians | clojure | for bytes, java.io.FileInputStream will set you up, for more complex parsing, gloss is a good clojure option <https://github.com/ztellman/gloss> | 2017-10-30T13:22:40.000076 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | I mean - if you need bytes, that’s much simpler. If you need to parse a specific format, there’s libraries that help | 2017-10-30T13:22:56.000510 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Oh, I just need bytes. This library would just be overkill. | 2017-10-30T13:23:43.000779 | Alice |
clojurians | clojure | <@Alice> simple example ```Clojure 1.9.0-beta3
(ins)user=> (java.io.FileInputStream. "/etc/passwd")
#object[java.io.FileInputStream 0x41709512 "java.io.FileInputStream@41709512"]
(ins)user=> (def input *1)
#'user/input
(ins)user=> (.available input)
5253
(ins)user=> (def contents (byte-array *1))
#'user/contents
(ins)user=> (.read input contents)
5253
(ins)user=> (into [] contents)
[35 35 10 35 32 85 115 101 114 32 68 97 116 97 98 97 115 101 10 35 32 10 35 32 7
8 111 116 101 32 116 104 97 116 32 116 104 105 115 32 102 105 108 101 32 105 115
32 99 111 110 115 117 108 116 101 100 32 100 105 114 101 99 116 108 121 32 111
110 108 121 32 119 104 101 110 32 116 104 101 32 115 121 115 116 101 109 32 105
115 32 114 117 110 110 ... ]``` | 2017-10-30T13:25:41.000188 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | <@Alice> one gotcha with java in general is bytes are always signed, but there’s simple bitwise math tricks that allow all the operations you would expect despite the signedness | 2017-10-30T13:26:38.000212 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Thank you very much. I just found `with-open` and `input-stream` functions. Does they do the same job? | 2017-10-30T13:28:03.000325 | Alice |
clojurians | clojure | input-stream doesn’t help much there since FileInputStream just gives you the thing - but with-open does help if you want to have it automatically close when exiting a specific scope | 2017-10-30T13:28:44.000513 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | FileInputStream is already an InputStream - though I guess you can use input-stream if you want a BufferedInputStream instead? | 2017-10-30T13:30:13.000649 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Yep, I'll work with big files, so BufferedInputStream is probably a better choice. Anyway, I think I've got it. Thanks again. | 2017-10-30T13:32:48.000425 | Alice |
clojurians | clojure | I don’t think that’s what the buffer on BufferedInputStream is about at all | 2017-10-30T13:33:11.000646 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | it adds mark and reset support for streams that don’t implement those methods, but FileInputStream already gives you those methods | 2017-10-30T13:33:36.000291 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | it’s not a file buffer for performance, it’s a software buffer for replay | 2017-10-30T13:33:54.000203 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | if file usage needs to be optimized, there are things in java.nio for mmaping where supported | 2017-10-30T13:34:41.000108 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Would someone know why the following works in Java:
```
KafkaMetricsReporter$.MODULE$.startReporters(new VerifiableProperties(props))
```
But cannot seem to reach `$.MODULE$.startReporters` from Clojure?
(from <https://stackoverflow.com/a/47012396/1327651> ) | 2017-10-30T13:53:56.000732 | Jonnie |
clojurians | clojure | $ is part of the name, it’s not it’s own thing | 2017-10-30T13:55:36.000545 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | it would be `(-> KafkaMetricsReporter$ (.MODULE$) (.startReporters (VerifiableProperties. props)))` | 2017-10-30T13:56:42.000451 | Margaret |
clojurians | clojure | Anyone know if there's an already built solution to logging slow tests with leiningen? (i.e. when running `lein test`, if a `deftest` block takes longer than some specified (or assumed) amount of time, it prints a warning)? | 2017-10-30T14:04:35.000780 | Raul |
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