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zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j105tsr | j0zz0hc | 1,671,561,162 | 1,671,558,569 | 5 | 2 | no because in a sense the first draft is the 'outline' once you get to the editing phase. anything and everything can be subject to change still. | I do, but I'm not a pantser. Your mileage may vary | 1 | 2,593 | 2.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j1029ei | j105tsr | 1,671,559,802 | 1,671,561,162 | 2 | 5 | I wouldn’t say that’s it’s necessary, but depending on the complexity of the plot and setting (in details) it might be in some circumstances. I can’t write without plotting though, I like to have everything thoroughly outlined in interlinking parts but I suppose I could write without it, but usually only short stories that aren’t more than a few pages. | no because in a sense the first draft is the 'outline' once you get to the editing phase. anything and everything can be subject to change still. | 0 | 1,360 | 2.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10az05 | j0zov10 | 1,671,563,125 | 1,671,554,692 | 5 | 3 | No, you need many elements and that's one way to do it. But many of us discover those in the process of learning our character(s) and settings and conflicts while we write. It depends on how your brain best works. If I plan too much, I lose interest. Maybe you can use them. Try it and find out. | Do you need it? No, but if you're not like a master author it would probably help. | 1 | 8,433 | 1.666667 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j0zwwcv | j10az05 | 1,671,557,762 | 1,671,563,125 | 4 | 5 | I don't think it's necessary, but if it works for you, then go for it! The things I've had published never had an outline, I just figured it out as I went, lol. | No, you need many elements and that's one way to do it. But many of us discover those in the process of learning our character(s) and settings and conflicts while we write. It depends on how your brain best works. If I plan too much, I lose interest. Maybe you can use them. Try it and find out. | 0 | 5,363 | 1.25 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10az05 | j0zym9g | 1,671,563,125 | 1,671,558,419 | 5 | 2 | No, you need many elements and that's one way to do it. But many of us discover those in the process of learning our character(s) and settings and conflicts while we write. It depends on how your brain best works. If I plan too much, I lose interest. Maybe you can use them. Try it and find out. | An outline isn’t necessary but it is a HUGE help and makes the writing process easier | 1 | 4,706 | 2.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10az05 | j0zz0hc | 1,671,563,125 | 1,671,558,569 | 5 | 2 | No, you need many elements and that's one way to do it. But many of us discover those in the process of learning our character(s) and settings and conflicts while we write. It depends on how your brain best works. If I plan too much, I lose interest. Maybe you can use them. Try it and find out. | I do, but I'm not a pantser. Your mileage may vary | 1 | 4,556 | 2.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10az05 | j1029ei | 1,671,563,125 | 1,671,559,802 | 5 | 2 | No, you need many elements and that's one way to do it. But many of us discover those in the process of learning our character(s) and settings and conflicts while we write. It depends on how your brain best works. If I plan too much, I lose interest. Maybe you can use them. Try it and find out. | I wouldn’t say that’s it’s necessary, but depending on the complexity of the plot and setting (in details) it might be in some circumstances. I can’t write without plotting though, I like to have everything thoroughly outlined in interlinking parts but I suppose I could write without it, but usually only short stories that aren’t more than a few pages. | 1 | 3,323 | 2.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j0zov10 | j0zuvfb | 1,671,554,692 | 1,671,556,993 | 3 | 5 | Do you need it? No, but if you're not like a master author it would probably help. | This is how I would describe my general process of writing a first draft: 1: I have an idea! 2: I don’t actually know what this even is… 3: fuck, yes, I’ve worked it out, I think could actually be really fucking good. Yes! I’m excited. This is going to be great! 4: Oh god what if I’m not good enough to actually pull this off and I ruin my good idea by being a bad writer? 5: AAAAAAAAAAAIDONTKNOWHATIMDOINGBUTIMDOINGITANYWAYAAAAAAAAAAATYPETYPETYPELETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 6:Oh shit I’m actually near the end all I have to do is drag myself over the finish line 7: uuuuuurrrrrggghhhhhh….. just…. a few….. more….. pages…. 8: oh it’s done. Fuck. Now what? Is it good? I dunno. Maybe. I think so. Read it back? Oh fuck no I need at least a month where I don’t look at this thing at all. 9: o don’t want to edit. 10: I guess I’m going to have to edit…. | 0 | 2,301 | 1.666667 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j0zov10 | j0zwwcv | 1,671,554,692 | 1,671,557,762 | 3 | 4 | Do you need it? No, but if you're not like a master author it would probably help. | I don't think it's necessary, but if it works for you, then go for it! The things I've had published never had an outline, I just figured it out as I went, lol. | 0 | 3,070 | 1.333333 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10fzkz | j0zym9g | 1,671,565,083 | 1,671,558,419 | 3 | 2 | Depends on your methodology. You don’t HAVE to outline. But you might want to try if you notice not outline causing you issues. Ultimately the way to write a good story is to develop a good writing method for yourself. Whether that’s to outline and then write, word vomit on the page then revise the hell out of it, write rewrite edit, write, edit, write, etc. experiment and see what works for you. Outlining is just preached because it’s the EASIEST method to teach since it has an academic format to it. | An outline isn’t necessary but it is a HUGE help and makes the writing process easier | 1 | 6,664 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j0zz0hc | j10fzkz | 1,671,558,569 | 1,671,565,083 | 2 | 3 | I do, but I'm not a pantser. Your mileage may vary | Depends on your methodology. You don’t HAVE to outline. But you might want to try if you notice not outline causing you issues. Ultimately the way to write a good story is to develop a good writing method for yourself. Whether that’s to outline and then write, word vomit on the page then revise the hell out of it, write rewrite edit, write, edit, write, etc. experiment and see what works for you. Outlining is just preached because it’s the EASIEST method to teach since it has an academic format to it. | 0 | 6,514 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10fzkz | j1029ei | 1,671,565,083 | 1,671,559,802 | 3 | 2 | Depends on your methodology. You don’t HAVE to outline. But you might want to try if you notice not outline causing you issues. Ultimately the way to write a good story is to develop a good writing method for yourself. Whether that’s to outline and then write, word vomit on the page then revise the hell out of it, write rewrite edit, write, edit, write, etc. experiment and see what works for you. Outlining is just preached because it’s the EASIEST method to teach since it has an academic format to it. | I wouldn’t say that’s it’s necessary, but depending on the complexity of the plot and setting (in details) it might be in some circumstances. I can’t write without plotting though, I like to have everything thoroughly outlined in interlinking parts but I suppose I could write without it, but usually only short stories that aren’t more than a few pages. | 1 | 5,281 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10fzkz | j10fi7y | 1,671,565,083 | 1,671,564,900 | 3 | 2 | Depends on your methodology. You don’t HAVE to outline. But you might want to try if you notice not outline causing you issues. Ultimately the way to write a good story is to develop a good writing method for yourself. Whether that’s to outline and then write, word vomit on the page then revise the hell out of it, write rewrite edit, write, edit, write, etc. experiment and see what works for you. Outlining is just preached because it’s the EASIEST method to teach since it has an academic format to it. | Let's just say, you wouldn't like the alternative. | 1 | 183 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j0zym9g | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,558,419 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | An outline isn’t necessary but it is a HUGE help and makes the writing process easier | 1 | 57,854 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j0zz0hc | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,558,569 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | I do, but I'm not a pantser. Your mileage may vary | 1 | 57,704 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j1029ei | j13812y | 1,671,559,802 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | I wouldn’t say that’s it’s necessary, but depending on the complexity of the plot and setting (in details) it might be in some circumstances. I can’t write without plotting though, I like to have everything thoroughly outlined in interlinking parts but I suppose I could write without it, but usually only short stories that aren’t more than a few pages. | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 56,471 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10fi7y | j13812y | 1,671,564,900 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | Let's just say, you wouldn't like the alternative. | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 51,373 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j10u0tt | j13812y | 1,671,570,485 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | There's been a lot of stupid fighting over which is better, "plotting" or "pantsing", but really it doesn't matter as long as your method is effective at developing your story. Ironically I do hear a lot of people that fall into the "pantsing" crowd make claims about how they feel like outlining is too restrictive and that's why they don't like using them. This is false, however plotting is a separate skill to be learned, and there's really no single right way to do it which can make learning what works for you when doing it confusing. That said, you can use a plot outline as rigidly or loosely as you see fit (it's your story after all), it's just there to help guide you along writing the meat of what's on the page so you can focus yourself better. It's entirely possible you'll revise and edit a plot outline into something very different from where you started by the end of the book (hell, I know I have, several times already and working on the newest iteration). Personally I find the idea of writing drafts without an outline to be a good way to waste a lot of time, but if that's what gets you going then have at it, with time you can be effective doing it like that too. Efficiency wise though i'd argue outlining wins by leaps and bounds if you take the time to learn how to do it well. | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 45,788 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j10vyhh | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,571,238 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | I think that the outcome is more relevant. You have experience and have written a lot of long stories without outlines. Stick to your comfort zone on that if you plan to try and publish whatever the outcome. Make something you know you'll be proud of. I don't think you need an outline, unless you want to give yourself a fun extra challenge. | 1 | 45,035 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j115gdn | j13812y | 1,671,575,078 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | You do what helps you get the story written. And then edit like crazy. Edit so much that your first draft actually felt more like an outline compared to the final draft. At least that's how it works for me. Everyone's different. :) | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 41,195 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j116e7o | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,575,468 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | I start writing when I have a five-minute summary of the story, which starts at the beginning and ends at the end. No formal outline, no character sheets, no binders full of worldbuilding material... just a story. I think that's about all you need. | 1 | 40,805 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j11zcvs | j13812y | 1,671,588,240 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | No, but it helps. | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 28,033 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j1253cw | j13812y | 1,671,590,907 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | No. I do a very basic sketch of the three acts and that’s it. I’m a very pure pantser. | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 25,366 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j129mis | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,593,107 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | Honestly no. Everyone writes differently. Me, I make a little character sheet (brief overview of the main characters and important side characters with a couple sentences of back story) but besides that I don’t outline. I just write. Half the time my stories veer off of what I originally thought it was going to be about. But for me it’s like the characters reside in my mind and guide me throughout the story. It works for me, but it doesn’t work for everyone. As I said, everyone writes differently, I don’t think any one author works the same as another. We all have our own way of doing things, and it doesn’t make it wrong or right. | 1 | 23,166 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j12bb3n | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,593,940 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | I’ve never personally done outlines as they just don’t work for me, it takes the fun out (for me) our the piece, the story unfolds for you as you write it yourself. Some people use it for remembering key plot details and points and some people don’t need it but it doesn’t define a good story all about what you need to make one | 1 | 22,333 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j13812y | j12ey39 | 1,671,616,273 | 1,671,595,827 | 3 | 2 | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | It depends on who it is, some people can make it up on the fly others need an outline, and there's a spectrum in between Personally, I outline certain thing while just thinking about the story, then write draft one, then build up from there, find out what to add and where, or figure out what to cut | 1 | 20,446 | 1.5 | ||
zqszpx | writing_train | 0.89 | do you need an outline to write a good story? So, hi guys! I would call myself a pro Wattpad author because i never published anything anywhere else, but i was wondering, if i wanted to make it in the real publishing, do i need an outline? In the past, i've written some longer (50-80k words) fiction, but my new WIP is going to be way longer. I've never used any form of outlining, althought i usually have some general direction set (i write mystery, so i usually know who the killer is, why they did it and stuff, i know how the story's gonna end etc). Do you think i need an outline to write a good fiction? | j12izoq | j13812y | 1,671,598,034 | 1,671,616,273 | 2 | 3 | Writing an outline is meant to make things easy for you if you wanna organize your thoughts and ideas. By making an outline, you know what you need to write first and connect one point with next one. If you feel that your stories are as organized and well put the way they are, without making any outline then you simply don't need it. But in any case I suggest you do it cuz it can train your mind to be very organized in your writing and organizing everything would come very easily to you thereby making your composition very well refined. It could also save you the trouble of writing extra drafts. | I think rather than outline it more about the cast and complications. The bigger the cast means more details. Even with an average size cast you can tell a long story if there are enough commotion or complex situations to write out . | 0 | 18,239 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivcin55 | ivdtjr6 | 1,667,776,833 | 1,667,800,299 | 2 | 4 | I'm interested in this question too. I have the kind of cognition that doesn't respond well to force or willpower or plans. So for you, I'm curious, are you a pretty flowy, right brain kind of person, or are you left brain, linear, logical kind of thinker? If you're linear, I think cultivating routines and structures and discipline might be helpful. But if you're more right brain and flowy, como moi, engaging a more energetic approach might be more helpful, and your ability to write any story is more about cultivating receptivity, curiosity, and flexibility, so the story can come through at its own pace, rather than in this predictable, linear, controllable process. I'm reading Creatrix: she who makes, by Lucy H Pearce, and it's so validating and helpful for how nonlinear my relationship to my creative projects is. I hope that's some constructive food for thought! | I don't think the issue is so much that you need to stay interested in an idea long enough to make story... You need to come up with a world for all your ideas to exist within and write a story linking them. An idea isn't enough to sustain a story, but a bunch of related ideas can. That's one way I've been keeping my long running web serial going. I have a world and characters, and I explore ideas within it for bit. Then, I might shelve them til later, or just be done exploring that avenue and move on to the next. | 0 | 23,466 | 2 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivcks3r | ivdtjr6 | 1,667,777,751 | 1,667,800,299 | 2 | 4 | Well, for starters - outlines, planning; not much, even just a bit to keep your eyes on everything, see where you're going, where you're at, what's left to do. It can help reignite your passion for the story as you work on fleshing it out for the outline or such - when you reach a slump in the actual writing, for example. I guess it might help push through "boring" parts if you line them out in notes and can form actual writing out of it later. However, unless you consider certain parts of all books commonly boring, I'd reflect on why on earth it's boring and how it can be made non-boring. If it's boring to you, it's something that'd likely be boring to a reader, too. You don't have to write chronologically. Stuff can be patched together later, and edited, of course. If you really, actually want to finish it, you're gonna have to put in the effort. There's no easy way about it. Effort to write it, but also effort to keep it interesting to yourself if you have a tendency to lose interest. Like mentioned above, try rough outlining, key points, etc., and revisit it every now and then, work on it. You *will* have to do "boring" work, you know, to fill in the gaps between the "exciting" parts of the story that might've incited you to write the idea - unless you don't plan on doing anything with it and just wanna get those key moments out on paper. You don't sound like you do any planning - like you *tried* planning. Some of it, at least. Pantsing is great, but also requires some discipline not to stray too much when the lack of planning kicks in. I'm sorta half-half. I mostly go in full pantsing mode on a fresh idea, it lasts about 3k words, and then the mild outlining and character/world notetaking begins to start keeping track of things, and getting that down just further incites my imagination on the topic, and then I build some more, and sorta solidify the original idea. It also helps keep up my passion for the project. I'd also recommend some self-reflection regarding what you want out of writing at the end of the day, and if you really want to write novels? There's nothing wrong with short stories, and nothing inherently better about novels. | I don't think the issue is so much that you need to stay interested in an idea long enough to make story... You need to come up with a world for all your ideas to exist within and write a story linking them. An idea isn't enough to sustain a story, but a bunch of related ideas can. That's one way I've been keeping my long running web serial going. I have a world and characters, and I explore ideas within it for bit. Then, I might shelve them til later, or just be done exploring that avenue and move on to the next. | 0 | 22,548 | 2 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivcin55 | ive5iz3 | 1,667,776,833 | 1,667,810,058 | 2 | 3 | I'm interested in this question too. I have the kind of cognition that doesn't respond well to force or willpower or plans. So for you, I'm curious, are you a pretty flowy, right brain kind of person, or are you left brain, linear, logical kind of thinker? If you're linear, I think cultivating routines and structures and discipline might be helpful. But if you're more right brain and flowy, como moi, engaging a more energetic approach might be more helpful, and your ability to write any story is more about cultivating receptivity, curiosity, and flexibility, so the story can come through at its own pace, rather than in this predictable, linear, controllable process. I'm reading Creatrix: she who makes, by Lucy H Pearce, and it's so validating and helpful for how nonlinear my relationship to my creative projects is. I hope that's some constructive food for thought! | Create characters that you really care about. Make their stories passionate to such a degree you want to do them justice. Make them your babies. Adopt them. Love them. Go have a coffee date with them. You'll want to write that story. | 0 | 33,225 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ive5iz3 | ivcks3r | 1,667,810,058 | 1,667,777,751 | 3 | 2 | Create characters that you really care about. Make their stories passionate to such a degree you want to do them justice. Make them your babies. Adopt them. Love them. Go have a coffee date with them. You'll want to write that story. | Well, for starters - outlines, planning; not much, even just a bit to keep your eyes on everything, see where you're going, where you're at, what's left to do. It can help reignite your passion for the story as you work on fleshing it out for the outline or such - when you reach a slump in the actual writing, for example. I guess it might help push through "boring" parts if you line them out in notes and can form actual writing out of it later. However, unless you consider certain parts of all books commonly boring, I'd reflect on why on earth it's boring and how it can be made non-boring. If it's boring to you, it's something that'd likely be boring to a reader, too. You don't have to write chronologically. Stuff can be patched together later, and edited, of course. If you really, actually want to finish it, you're gonna have to put in the effort. There's no easy way about it. Effort to write it, but also effort to keep it interesting to yourself if you have a tendency to lose interest. Like mentioned above, try rough outlining, key points, etc., and revisit it every now and then, work on it. You *will* have to do "boring" work, you know, to fill in the gaps between the "exciting" parts of the story that might've incited you to write the idea - unless you don't plan on doing anything with it and just wanna get those key moments out on paper. You don't sound like you do any planning - like you *tried* planning. Some of it, at least. Pantsing is great, but also requires some discipline not to stray too much when the lack of planning kicks in. I'm sorta half-half. I mostly go in full pantsing mode on a fresh idea, it lasts about 3k words, and then the mild outlining and character/world notetaking begins to start keeping track of things, and getting that down just further incites my imagination on the topic, and then I build some more, and sorta solidify the original idea. It also helps keep up my passion for the project. I'd also recommend some self-reflection regarding what you want out of writing at the end of the day, and if you really want to write novels? There's nothing wrong with short stories, and nothing inherently better about novels. | 1 | 32,307 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivcin55 | ivf0cxf | 1,667,776,833 | 1,667,831,006 | 2 | 3 | I'm interested in this question too. I have the kind of cognition that doesn't respond well to force or willpower or plans. So for you, I'm curious, are you a pretty flowy, right brain kind of person, or are you left brain, linear, logical kind of thinker? If you're linear, I think cultivating routines and structures and discipline might be helpful. But if you're more right brain and flowy, como moi, engaging a more energetic approach might be more helpful, and your ability to write any story is more about cultivating receptivity, curiosity, and flexibility, so the story can come through at its own pace, rather than in this predictable, linear, controllable process. I'm reading Creatrix: she who makes, by Lucy H Pearce, and it's so validating and helpful for how nonlinear my relationship to my creative projects is. I hope that's some constructive food for thought! | >Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? Yes. Do you write an outline before you start? If not, I'd recommend doing that. Long form storytelling revolves around a central conflict with a beginning, a middle and an end, but within that framework there will be lots of others 'stories' which have threads running through them but also have their own conflicts which are introduced and resolved as you go. You could break a long narrative down into its individual component 'stories' and write those. If any of those smaller chunks don't hold your interest, ask yourself why that is. Would they hold a reader's interest? | 0 | 54,173 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivcks3r | ivf0cxf | 1,667,777,751 | 1,667,831,006 | 2 | 3 | Well, for starters - outlines, planning; not much, even just a bit to keep your eyes on everything, see where you're going, where you're at, what's left to do. It can help reignite your passion for the story as you work on fleshing it out for the outline or such - when you reach a slump in the actual writing, for example. I guess it might help push through "boring" parts if you line them out in notes and can form actual writing out of it later. However, unless you consider certain parts of all books commonly boring, I'd reflect on why on earth it's boring and how it can be made non-boring. If it's boring to you, it's something that'd likely be boring to a reader, too. You don't have to write chronologically. Stuff can be patched together later, and edited, of course. If you really, actually want to finish it, you're gonna have to put in the effort. There's no easy way about it. Effort to write it, but also effort to keep it interesting to yourself if you have a tendency to lose interest. Like mentioned above, try rough outlining, key points, etc., and revisit it every now and then, work on it. You *will* have to do "boring" work, you know, to fill in the gaps between the "exciting" parts of the story that might've incited you to write the idea - unless you don't plan on doing anything with it and just wanna get those key moments out on paper. You don't sound like you do any planning - like you *tried* planning. Some of it, at least. Pantsing is great, but also requires some discipline not to stray too much when the lack of planning kicks in. I'm sorta half-half. I mostly go in full pantsing mode on a fresh idea, it lasts about 3k words, and then the mild outlining and character/world notetaking begins to start keeping track of things, and getting that down just further incites my imagination on the topic, and then I build some more, and sorta solidify the original idea. It also helps keep up my passion for the project. I'd also recommend some self-reflection regarding what you want out of writing at the end of the day, and if you really want to write novels? There's nothing wrong with short stories, and nothing inherently better about novels. | >Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? Yes. Do you write an outline before you start? If not, I'd recommend doing that. Long form storytelling revolves around a central conflict with a beginning, a middle and an end, but within that framework there will be lots of others 'stories' which have threads running through them but also have their own conflicts which are introduced and resolved as you go. You could break a long narrative down into its individual component 'stories' and write those. If any of those smaller chunks don't hold your interest, ask yourself why that is. Would they hold a reader's interest? | 0 | 53,255 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | iverx1h | ivf0cxf | 1,667,826,922 | 1,667,831,006 | 2 | 3 | Discipline. | >Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? Yes. Do you write an outline before you start? If not, I'd recommend doing that. Long form storytelling revolves around a central conflict with a beginning, a middle and an end, but within that framework there will be lots of others 'stories' which have threads running through them but also have their own conflicts which are introduced and resolved as you go. You could break a long narrative down into its individual component 'stories' and write those. If any of those smaller chunks don't hold your interest, ask yourself why that is. Would they hold a reader's interest? | 0 | 4,084 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivgeipt | ivcin55 | 1,667,850,869 | 1,667,776,833 | 3 | 2 | Imagine the Mona Lisa in your head. Pretty easy, right? Now try to paint it. Did you come out like you imagined? Probably not. The same thing goes for writing. It is easy to imagine a 'perfect' idea in your head. But as soon as you start writing it down on paper, you will realize that it's not as perfect as you imagined. Maybe you don't currently have the writing skills to execute the idea well. Maybe there are plot holes or story issues you didn't notice in your head. But whatever the issue is, it's easy to start thinking, "Maybe this idea was terrible all along, and I should just come up with a new, better one." Of course, once you come up with a new idea, you're just going to repeat the same cycle, over and over again. The trick is just sticking with it, and accepting that the end result probably won't be that good. Let yourself write a bad story. Finish it, and then write a slightly better one. Think about it like painting the Mona Lisa. When Da Vinci was a new, amateur painter, did he knock out the Mona Lisa on the first try? No! He painted a bunch of crappy paintings, a bunch of okay paintings, a bunch of good paintings, and *then*, only when he had the skill to perfectly replicate the image in his mind on the canvas, did he paint a masterpiece. But he never would have gotten there if every time he had an idea for a painting, he only made two brushstrokes, said "This sucks!" and then threw it in the trash and started a new one. | I'm interested in this question too. I have the kind of cognition that doesn't respond well to force or willpower or plans. So for you, I'm curious, are you a pretty flowy, right brain kind of person, or are you left brain, linear, logical kind of thinker? If you're linear, I think cultivating routines and structures and discipline might be helpful. But if you're more right brain and flowy, como moi, engaging a more energetic approach might be more helpful, and your ability to write any story is more about cultivating receptivity, curiosity, and flexibility, so the story can come through at its own pace, rather than in this predictable, linear, controllable process. I'm reading Creatrix: she who makes, by Lucy H Pearce, and it's so validating and helpful for how nonlinear my relationship to my creative projects is. I hope that's some constructive food for thought! | 1 | 74,036 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivgeipt | ivcks3r | 1,667,850,869 | 1,667,777,751 | 3 | 2 | Imagine the Mona Lisa in your head. Pretty easy, right? Now try to paint it. Did you come out like you imagined? Probably not. The same thing goes for writing. It is easy to imagine a 'perfect' idea in your head. But as soon as you start writing it down on paper, you will realize that it's not as perfect as you imagined. Maybe you don't currently have the writing skills to execute the idea well. Maybe there are plot holes or story issues you didn't notice in your head. But whatever the issue is, it's easy to start thinking, "Maybe this idea was terrible all along, and I should just come up with a new, better one." Of course, once you come up with a new idea, you're just going to repeat the same cycle, over and over again. The trick is just sticking with it, and accepting that the end result probably won't be that good. Let yourself write a bad story. Finish it, and then write a slightly better one. Think about it like painting the Mona Lisa. When Da Vinci was a new, amateur painter, did he knock out the Mona Lisa on the first try? No! He painted a bunch of crappy paintings, a bunch of okay paintings, a bunch of good paintings, and *then*, only when he had the skill to perfectly replicate the image in his mind on the canvas, did he paint a masterpiece. But he never would have gotten there if every time he had an idea for a painting, he only made two brushstrokes, said "This sucks!" and then threw it in the trash and started a new one. | Well, for starters - outlines, planning; not much, even just a bit to keep your eyes on everything, see where you're going, where you're at, what's left to do. It can help reignite your passion for the story as you work on fleshing it out for the outline or such - when you reach a slump in the actual writing, for example. I guess it might help push through "boring" parts if you line them out in notes and can form actual writing out of it later. However, unless you consider certain parts of all books commonly boring, I'd reflect on why on earth it's boring and how it can be made non-boring. If it's boring to you, it's something that'd likely be boring to a reader, too. You don't have to write chronologically. Stuff can be patched together later, and edited, of course. If you really, actually want to finish it, you're gonna have to put in the effort. There's no easy way about it. Effort to write it, but also effort to keep it interesting to yourself if you have a tendency to lose interest. Like mentioned above, try rough outlining, key points, etc., and revisit it every now and then, work on it. You *will* have to do "boring" work, you know, to fill in the gaps between the "exciting" parts of the story that might've incited you to write the idea - unless you don't plan on doing anything with it and just wanna get those key moments out on paper. You don't sound like you do any planning - like you *tried* planning. Some of it, at least. Pantsing is great, but also requires some discipline not to stray too much when the lack of planning kicks in. I'm sorta half-half. I mostly go in full pantsing mode on a fresh idea, it lasts about 3k words, and then the mild outlining and character/world notetaking begins to start keeping track of things, and getting that down just further incites my imagination on the topic, and then I build some more, and sorta solidify the original idea. It also helps keep up my passion for the project. I'd also recommend some self-reflection regarding what you want out of writing at the end of the day, and if you really want to write novels? There's nothing wrong with short stories, and nothing inherently better about novels. | 1 | 73,118 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | iverx1h | ivgeipt | 1,667,826,922 | 1,667,850,869 | 2 | 3 | Discipline. | Imagine the Mona Lisa in your head. Pretty easy, right? Now try to paint it. Did you come out like you imagined? Probably not. The same thing goes for writing. It is easy to imagine a 'perfect' idea in your head. But as soon as you start writing it down on paper, you will realize that it's not as perfect as you imagined. Maybe you don't currently have the writing skills to execute the idea well. Maybe there are plot holes or story issues you didn't notice in your head. But whatever the issue is, it's easy to start thinking, "Maybe this idea was terrible all along, and I should just come up with a new, better one." Of course, once you come up with a new idea, you're just going to repeat the same cycle, over and over again. The trick is just sticking with it, and accepting that the end result probably won't be that good. Let yourself write a bad story. Finish it, and then write a slightly better one. Think about it like painting the Mona Lisa. When Da Vinci was a new, amateur painter, did he knock out the Mona Lisa on the first try? No! He painted a bunch of crappy paintings, a bunch of okay paintings, a bunch of good paintings, and *then*, only when he had the skill to perfectly replicate the image in his mind on the canvas, did he paint a masterpiece. But he never would have gotten there if every time he had an idea for a painting, he only made two brushstrokes, said "This sucks!" and then threw it in the trash and started a new one. | 0 | 23,947 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivfzpnu | ivgeipt | 1,667,845,167 | 1,667,850,869 | 2 | 3 | Perhaps you’re not ready to write it yet? That isn’t to paint you in a negative light either. For many years, I had a good idea here and there, and told myself writing wasn’t a feasible route. Sure enough, as time went on, those few ideas coalesced and grew in size and stature. Now I much prefer my world than the world my human body resides in. 😄 Don’t stress it! Your journey is your own. | Imagine the Mona Lisa in your head. Pretty easy, right? Now try to paint it. Did you come out like you imagined? Probably not. The same thing goes for writing. It is easy to imagine a 'perfect' idea in your head. But as soon as you start writing it down on paper, you will realize that it's not as perfect as you imagined. Maybe you don't currently have the writing skills to execute the idea well. Maybe there are plot holes or story issues you didn't notice in your head. But whatever the issue is, it's easy to start thinking, "Maybe this idea was terrible all along, and I should just come up with a new, better one." Of course, once you come up with a new idea, you're just going to repeat the same cycle, over and over again. The trick is just sticking with it, and accepting that the end result probably won't be that good. Let yourself write a bad story. Finish it, and then write a slightly better one. Think about it like painting the Mona Lisa. When Da Vinci was a new, amateur painter, did he knock out the Mona Lisa on the first try? No! He painted a bunch of crappy paintings, a bunch of okay paintings, a bunch of good paintings, and *then*, only when he had the skill to perfectly replicate the image in his mind on the canvas, did he paint a masterpiece. But he never would have gotten there if every time he had an idea for a painting, he only made two brushstrokes, said "This sucks!" and then threw it in the trash and started a new one. | 0 | 5,702 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivhwsel | ivcin55 | 1,667,873,684 | 1,667,776,833 | 3 | 2 | Let’s say you can only stay interested for 3 weeks. Then find storylines that would take you four weeks to finish. Once you get used to 4 weeks, then increase to 5, etc. Don’t be offended but I find that we lose interest because our stories don’t have the staying power. Try to figure out what they’re all lacking, and that may fix your problem. | I'm interested in this question too. I have the kind of cognition that doesn't respond well to force or willpower or plans. So for you, I'm curious, are you a pretty flowy, right brain kind of person, or are you left brain, linear, logical kind of thinker? If you're linear, I think cultivating routines and structures and discipline might be helpful. But if you're more right brain and flowy, como moi, engaging a more energetic approach might be more helpful, and your ability to write any story is more about cultivating receptivity, curiosity, and flexibility, so the story can come through at its own pace, rather than in this predictable, linear, controllable process. I'm reading Creatrix: she who makes, by Lucy H Pearce, and it's so validating and helpful for how nonlinear my relationship to my creative projects is. I hope that's some constructive food for thought! | 1 | 96,851 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivcks3r | ivhwsel | 1,667,777,751 | 1,667,873,684 | 2 | 3 | Well, for starters - outlines, planning; not much, even just a bit to keep your eyes on everything, see where you're going, where you're at, what's left to do. It can help reignite your passion for the story as you work on fleshing it out for the outline or such - when you reach a slump in the actual writing, for example. I guess it might help push through "boring" parts if you line them out in notes and can form actual writing out of it later. However, unless you consider certain parts of all books commonly boring, I'd reflect on why on earth it's boring and how it can be made non-boring. If it's boring to you, it's something that'd likely be boring to a reader, too. You don't have to write chronologically. Stuff can be patched together later, and edited, of course. If you really, actually want to finish it, you're gonna have to put in the effort. There's no easy way about it. Effort to write it, but also effort to keep it interesting to yourself if you have a tendency to lose interest. Like mentioned above, try rough outlining, key points, etc., and revisit it every now and then, work on it. You *will* have to do "boring" work, you know, to fill in the gaps between the "exciting" parts of the story that might've incited you to write the idea - unless you don't plan on doing anything with it and just wanna get those key moments out on paper. You don't sound like you do any planning - like you *tried* planning. Some of it, at least. Pantsing is great, but also requires some discipline not to stray too much when the lack of planning kicks in. I'm sorta half-half. I mostly go in full pantsing mode on a fresh idea, it lasts about 3k words, and then the mild outlining and character/world notetaking begins to start keeping track of things, and getting that down just further incites my imagination on the topic, and then I build some more, and sorta solidify the original idea. It also helps keep up my passion for the project. I'd also recommend some self-reflection regarding what you want out of writing at the end of the day, and if you really want to write novels? There's nothing wrong with short stories, and nothing inherently better about novels. | Let’s say you can only stay interested for 3 weeks. Then find storylines that would take you four weeks to finish. Once you get used to 4 weeks, then increase to 5, etc. Don’t be offended but I find that we lose interest because our stories don’t have the staying power. Try to figure out what they’re all lacking, and that may fix your problem. | 0 | 95,933 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivhwsel | iverx1h | 1,667,873,684 | 1,667,826,922 | 3 | 2 | Let’s say you can only stay interested for 3 weeks. Then find storylines that would take you four weeks to finish. Once you get used to 4 weeks, then increase to 5, etc. Don’t be offended but I find that we lose interest because our stories don’t have the staying power. Try to figure out what they’re all lacking, and that may fix your problem. | Discipline. | 1 | 46,762 | 1.5 | ||
yo4kcc | writing_train | 0.85 | Any advice on how to stay interested in your own story as you write it? I've been writing as a hobby for a while now, but something I've noticed is, that I struggle sticking to one story. By that I mean, I'm good enough at writing short stories, but I quickly lose interesting in my own work, if it's a bigger, or longer project, such as writing a novel, a story that spans multiple chapters, or a comic. I just come up with a new idea, I want to write down, so quickly, that I struggle to actually stay interested in any idea, for longer than a few weeks, which usually is far from enough to complete it, and leads to a noticeable decline in quality of my work. Does anyone have any advice on what I could do about this? | ivfzpnu | ivhwsel | 1,667,845,167 | 1,667,873,684 | 2 | 3 | Perhaps you’re not ready to write it yet? That isn’t to paint you in a negative light either. For many years, I had a good idea here and there, and told myself writing wasn’t a feasible route. Sure enough, as time went on, those few ideas coalesced and grew in size and stature. Now I much prefer my world than the world my human body resides in. 😄 Don’t stress it! Your journey is your own. | Let’s say you can only stay interested for 3 weeks. Then find storylines that would take you four weeks to finish. Once you get used to 4 weeks, then increase to 5, etc. Don’t be offended but I find that we lose interest because our stories don’t have the staying power. Try to figure out what they’re all lacking, and that may fix your problem. | 0 | 28,517 | 1.5 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuz6at | hhuxve5 | 1,635,082,804 | 1,635,082,109 | 1,580 | 1,293 | Finish high school. Do well in English class. | Really, truly, it's not a good idea. You won't make money easily with writing until you're writing something people will want to pay for. Most writers do their writing around a job or school, university, etc, and learn to manage their time appropriately. Even if it's possible to make a bit of money on the side with writing, you'll neither make enough to live on immediately, nor will people be interested in folks who don't have an education behind them. Writing FT is not getting paid to daydream or create stuff or whatever; it's a strenuous hustle and you'll need to know the basics of managing yourself as a professional. It's not impossible that you'll make writing your career some day, but for now, it's very unlikely that you will be able to justify giving up your education for something as ephemeral as any writing will be RN. Stay in school. If you're failing exams, study and get assistance from your teachers. School is what it is because it works for most people and you need to accept that you have to do some things you don't like doing. I wish I could stay in bed tomorrow morning and play computer games instead of going to work, but it has to be done. | 1 | 695 | 1.221964 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuycv3 | hhuz6at | 1,635,082,372 | 1,635,082,804 | 349 | 1,580 | Never drop highschool. Most writers need a job to work in-between writing. Also school forces you to read in the literature classes which makes you write better. If you’re struggling in school, sit down and talk with your parents. There’s plenty of online guides out there that can help you, tutors, and you could also potentially discuss the topic of homeschooling or a different type of highschool if the current one you’re in is failing you. But you still really need to get that highschool degree and need to consider what you want to be doing between the books. | Finish high school. Do well in English class. | 0 | 432 | 4.527221 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuys31 | hhuz6at | 1,635,082,596 | 1,635,082,804 | 121 | 1,580 | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | Finish high school. Do well in English class. | 0 | 208 | 13.057851 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuz6at | hhuy59w | 1,635,082,804 | 1,635,082,259 | 1,580 | 62 | Finish high school. Do well in English class. | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | 1 | 545 | 25.483871 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1nb9 | hhuzk2q | 1,635,084,059 | 1,635,082,999 | 1,060 | 656 | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | Fuck no. Writing is a really hard way to make money. The bottom has pretty much fallen out of most writing professions, and spoilers, it's not going to get any better, it's getting worse each year. Find something you're decent at, ideally a trade, from plumbing to carpentry, to accounting or landscape gardening, or web design. Writing is something the vast majority of people do when they've already got an established income and some free time. TL/DR: Fuck no. | 1 | 1,060 | 1.615854 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuycv3 | hhv1nb9 | 1,635,082,372 | 1,635,084,059 | 349 | 1,060 | Never drop highschool. Most writers need a job to work in-between writing. Also school forces you to read in the literature classes which makes you write better. If you’re struggling in school, sit down and talk with your parents. There’s plenty of online guides out there that can help you, tutors, and you could also potentially discuss the topic of homeschooling or a different type of highschool if the current one you’re in is failing you. But you still really need to get that highschool degree and need to consider what you want to be doing between the books. | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | 0 | 1,687 | 3.037249 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1673 | hhv1nb9 | 1,635,083,820 | 1,635,084,059 | 140 | 1,060 | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | 0 | 239 | 7.571429 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1nb9 | hhuys31 | 1,635,084,059 | 1,635,082,596 | 1,060 | 121 | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | 1 | 1,463 | 8.760331 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuzfhr | hhv1nb9 | 1,635,082,937 | 1,635,084,059 | 112 | 1,060 | Please finish school. I know it’s awful now, but you will have so many more options. You’re likely going to need a job while you work on publishing and even fast food and manual labor jobs expect you to have a high school diploma or GED. Everyone I know who dropped out has really regretted it. | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | 0 | 1,122 | 9.464286 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1nb9 | hhuy59w | 1,635,084,059 | 1,635,082,259 | 1,060 | 62 | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | 1 | 1,800 | 17.096774 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1nb9 | hhv0oc3 | 1,635,084,059 | 1,635,083,567 | 1,060 | 53 | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | Your post doesn’t really inspire confidence that you’ll be a successful writer. Stay in school. | 1 | 492 | 20 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1nb9 | hhv188v | 1,635,084,059 | 1,635,083,848 | 1,060 | 15 | >"all that is left for me is to be published." That's the hardest part. | At the very least get one of the books you've already written published first and see if it makes any money. | 1 | 211 | 70.666667 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuycv3 | hhuzk2q | 1,635,082,372 | 1,635,082,999 | 349 | 656 | Never drop highschool. Most writers need a job to work in-between writing. Also school forces you to read in the literature classes which makes you write better. If you’re struggling in school, sit down and talk with your parents. There’s plenty of online guides out there that can help you, tutors, and you could also potentially discuss the topic of homeschooling or a different type of highschool if the current one you’re in is failing you. But you still really need to get that highschool degree and need to consider what you want to be doing between the books. | Fuck no. Writing is a really hard way to make money. The bottom has pretty much fallen out of most writing professions, and spoilers, it's not going to get any better, it's getting worse each year. Find something you're decent at, ideally a trade, from plumbing to carpentry, to accounting or landscape gardening, or web design. Writing is something the vast majority of people do when they've already got an established income and some free time. TL/DR: Fuck no. | 0 | 627 | 1.879656 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuys31 | hhuzk2q | 1,635,082,596 | 1,635,082,999 | 121 | 656 | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | Fuck no. Writing is a really hard way to make money. The bottom has pretty much fallen out of most writing professions, and spoilers, it's not going to get any better, it's getting worse each year. Find something you're decent at, ideally a trade, from plumbing to carpentry, to accounting or landscape gardening, or web design. Writing is something the vast majority of people do when they've already got an established income and some free time. TL/DR: Fuck no. | 0 | 403 | 5.421488 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuzfhr | hhuzk2q | 1,635,082,937 | 1,635,082,999 | 112 | 656 | Please finish school. I know it’s awful now, but you will have so many more options. You’re likely going to need a job while you work on publishing and even fast food and manual labor jobs expect you to have a high school diploma or GED. Everyone I know who dropped out has really regretted it. | Fuck no. Writing is a really hard way to make money. The bottom has pretty much fallen out of most writing professions, and spoilers, it's not going to get any better, it's getting worse each year. Find something you're decent at, ideally a trade, from plumbing to carpentry, to accounting or landscape gardening, or web design. Writing is something the vast majority of people do when they've already got an established income and some free time. TL/DR: Fuck no. | 0 | 62 | 5.857143 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuzk2q | hhuy59w | 1,635,082,999 | 1,635,082,259 | 656 | 62 | Fuck no. Writing is a really hard way to make money. The bottom has pretty much fallen out of most writing professions, and spoilers, it's not going to get any better, it's getting worse each year. Find something you're decent at, ideally a trade, from plumbing to carpentry, to accounting or landscape gardening, or web design. Writing is something the vast majority of people do when they've already got an established income and some free time. TL/DR: Fuck no. | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | 1 | 740 | 10.580645 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuy59w | hhuycv3 | 1,635,082,259 | 1,635,082,372 | 62 | 349 | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | Never drop highschool. Most writers need a job to work in-between writing. Also school forces you to read in the literature classes which makes you write better. If you’re struggling in school, sit down and talk with your parents. There’s plenty of online guides out there that can help you, tutors, and you could also potentially discuss the topic of homeschooling or a different type of highschool if the current one you’re in is failing you. But you still really need to get that highschool degree and need to consider what you want to be doing between the books. | 0 | 113 | 5.629032 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv3c6k | hhv6aft | 1,635,084,883 | 1,635,086,294 | 147 | 166 | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 1,411 | 1.129252 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv6aft | hhv1673 | 1,635,086,294 | 1,635,083,820 | 166 | 140 | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | 1 | 2,474 | 1.185714 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuys31 | hhv6aft | 1,635,082,596 | 1,635,086,294 | 121 | 166 | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 3,698 | 1.371901 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv6aft | hhuzfhr | 1,635,086,294 | 1,635,082,937 | 166 | 112 | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | Please finish school. I know it’s awful now, but you will have so many more options. You’re likely going to need a job while you work on publishing and even fast food and manual labor jobs expect you to have a high school diploma or GED. Everyone I know who dropped out has really regretted it. | 1 | 3,357 | 1.482143 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv6aft | hhv46d2 | 1,635,086,294 | 1,635,085,291 | 166 | 71 | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | The r/writingcirclejerk post just kinda writes itself here. | 1 | 1,003 | 2.338028 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1z4d | hhv6aft | 1,635,084,222 | 1,635,086,294 | 68 | 166 | Judging by what you just wrote...no. Without the snark you shouldn't be asking a question about dropping high school to do something for money before you are actually making significant money from that thing. If you haven't been published you probably will not do well as a full-time writer. | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 2,072 | 2.441176 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuy59w | hhv6aft | 1,635,082,259 | 1,635,086,294 | 62 | 166 | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 4,035 | 2.677419 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv6aft | hhv651h | 1,635,086,294 | 1,635,086,226 | 166 | 58 | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | Here's some harsh truth, if your novels are written like this post, then no. Don't drop out if high school. Can't believe you're asking this. Have you not talked to your parents?? Writing should always be a second job until you make enough money for it to be your main job. | 1 | 68 | 2.862069 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv6aft | hhv0oc3 | 1,635,086,294 | 1,635,083,567 | 166 | 53 | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | Your post doesn’t really inspire confidence that you’ll be a successful writer. Stay in school. | 1 | 2,727 | 3.132075 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv5nik | hhv6aft | 1,635,086,000 | 1,635,086,294 | 35 | 166 | As close as you are to finishing high school … hang in there if at all possible. Even once you’ve mastered the craft of writing (and few of us are as good as we think we are at the start—I know I wasn’t), there will at least as many years when writing can’t support you as when it can. Having a high school degree leaves you with so many more options than not having one. Which isn’t to minimize just how hard school can be, especially when you’re in the thick of dealing with it, or having a rough time of it. But if you’re stubborn enough to make a career of writing, you’re also stubborn enough to get through this one last year. Much luck to you, with school and with writing. You’ll be glad you stuck with both later. | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 294 | 4.742857 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv414y | hhv6aft | 1,635,085,221 | 1,635,086,294 | 26 | 166 | Of course you can. Being homeless isn't always as bad as you might think. If you live near a big city (at least in the US), you can usually find homeless shelters that give you free food, and often clothing. True story: I had more clothes when I lived under a bridge than I have in my closet right now. I mean I never wore most of them, but I had them... Make sure you start out somewhere warm, though. Surviving winters up in the Midwest is not for the uncreative or the inexperienced. | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 1,073 | 6.384615 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv6aft | hhv3i3x | 1,635,086,294 | 1,635,084,963 | 166 | 22 | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | Lol. "Should I drop out of high school?" I'm fairly certain you should be talking about that with your parents and those people closest to you as this is a major decision which can have wide ranging impact on your life. Asking some randos on the interwebz about such a drastic decision is about the most idiotic thing imaginable. How are you to ascertain which responses truly have your best interests at heart? You can't. I'm gonna go out in a limb and guess that you've already discussed this with your parents and didn't like their answer. | 1 | 1,331 | 7.545455 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv188v | hhv6aft | 1,635,083,848 | 1,635,086,294 | 15 | 166 | At the very least get one of the books you've already written published first and see if it makes any money. | Writing, even fiction writing, is about capturing life's experiences and then stirring those experiences into a kind of cerebral stew with a few fantasies and wild daydreams. But getting published—not just finishing books, but selling them—means knowing the mechanics of writing as well. The nuts-and-bolts stuff. Some of us can pick that up on our own, some require an educational push—English classes, lit classes, journalism experience. But knowing the difference between a noun and a verb (and ten thousand other essential tools) is imperative to getting into print. Even digital print. I'll admit that even the best schools can't teach creativity. But they can't hurt creativity either. I had one teacher—high school English—who did nothing more than give me (and others in his class) the *'go ahead and try'* approach to writing. That's all. A teacher's permission to give it a shot. And he was worth all my other teachers combined. So if you're lucky enough to find a mentor, or just a creative human being to guide you along, that's worth a year or two stuck behind a desk. If somebody tells me they're dropping out to travel the Serengeti, or to sail the globe, or to ride the rails 'tween Wichita and El Paso, with pencil and notebook in hand, I'd applaud those efforts. We write what we know—whether we believe that adage or not, even if we're writing fantasy fiction about other planets and creatures—taking readers to wonderful places in our imagination. But writing what we know is usually based, even if peripherally, on IRL places and circumstances and people we've met along the way. So if you're dropping out to spend a year in Tahiti or Machu Picchu or Istanbul, or to hike the Appalachian Trail, I'd say go for it! Absorb and write! But if you're quitting to hunker down in a little room for the next twenty years, I think your fiction will probably suffer, and probably your mind, too. Because what happens *after* school—those first 10-15 years of growth and freedom—can be insanely inspirational and essential to a writer. Far more so if you can afford to spend those years in even modest comfort. I mean, have you seen the price of printer cartridges recently? If I didn't have a degree, I'm not sure I could afford being a writer. So there's that aspect as well. If you're already in grade 12, you're almost to the end zone. If you're bored, open your eyes (and I don't mean that snarkily, but rather to observe every day around you. What do you see? How can that help you write? How do people move and talk. What minor incidents can you turn, inside your head, into grand plot-lines? What stories can be built around various personalities and issues? So perhaps use that time to absorb and create. And when you get out of the scholastic slammer, *keep* absorbing and creating. Heck, get a job on an oil rig, or as a cross-country long-hauler. Getting paid to see the world has its benefits. And just realize if you don't have time to write after school, you won't have time to write after work either. So you'll have to juggle that issue, too. Unless you're from a incredibly wealthy family, that is. And, if so, disregard this entire post. Read: *Rivethead: Tales From the Assembly Line.* (Ben Harper.) The guy spent years in a brainless, repetitive, totally shit job and then wrote an amazing book about his life...on an assembly line. A best seller, I believe. But based on his experiences, as rotten as they seemed at the time. So write what you know. And strive to know as much as you can. (Crap, now I sound like my father.) | 0 | 2,446 | 11.066667 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv3c6k | hhv1673 | 1,635,084,883 | 1,635,083,820 | 147 | 140 | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | 1 | 1,063 | 1.05 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuys31 | hhv3c6k | 1,635,082,596 | 1,635,084,883 | 121 | 147 | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | 0 | 2,287 | 1.214876 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuzfhr | hhv3c6k | 1,635,082,937 | 1,635,084,883 | 112 | 147 | Please finish school. I know it’s awful now, but you will have so many more options. You’re likely going to need a job while you work on publishing and even fast food and manual labor jobs expect you to have a high school diploma or GED. Everyone I know who dropped out has really regretted it. | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | 0 | 1,946 | 1.3125 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv3c6k | hhv1z4d | 1,635,084,883 | 1,635,084,222 | 147 | 68 | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | Judging by what you just wrote...no. Without the snark you shouldn't be asking a question about dropping high school to do something for money before you are actually making significant money from that thing. If you haven't been published you probably will not do well as a full-time writer. | 1 | 661 | 2.161765 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv3c6k | hhuy59w | 1,635,084,883 | 1,635,082,259 | 147 | 62 | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | 1 | 2,624 | 2.370968 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv0oc3 | hhv3c6k | 1,635,083,567 | 1,635,084,883 | 53 | 147 | Your post doesn’t really inspire confidence that you’ll be a successful writer. Stay in school. | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | 0 | 1,316 | 2.773585 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv3c6k | hhv188v | 1,635,084,883 | 1,635,083,848 | 147 | 15 | Write on the side, but do NOT drop high school. That way if the writing doesn't come through, you still have other options | At the very least get one of the books you've already written published first and see if it makes any money. | 1 | 1,035 | 9.8 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1673 | hhuys31 | 1,635,083,820 | 1,635,082,596 | 140 | 121 | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | 1 | 1,224 | 1.157025 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1673 | hhuzfhr | 1,635,083,820 | 1,635,082,937 | 140 | 112 | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | Please finish school. I know it’s awful now, but you will have so many more options. You’re likely going to need a job while you work on publishing and even fast food and manual labor jobs expect you to have a high school diploma or GED. Everyone I know who dropped out has really regretted it. | 1 | 883 | 1.25 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1673 | hhuy59w | 1,635,083,820 | 1,635,082,259 | 140 | 62 | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | 1 | 1,561 | 2.258065 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1673 | hhv0oc3 | 1,635,083,820 | 1,635,083,567 | 140 | 53 | Absolutely not! No publisher will take you seriously if you don't have a high school diploma. Plus, while you think your books are phenomenal and deserve publishing, you could always use more English classes and refining your work. You won't get anywhere in a writing career with 3 years of high school English | Your post doesn’t really inspire confidence that you’ll be a successful writer. Stay in school. | 1 | 253 | 2.641509 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuys31 | hhuy59w | 1,635,082,596 | 1,635,082,259 | 121 | 62 | Finish high school. The information you can learn is invaluable, as is the diploma toward future jobs. Traditionally publishing and self-publishing careers that earn enough are rare and take years of building a back catalogue of work. You’ll want to have a diploma so you can make a living in the meantime. | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | 1 | 337 | 1.951613 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuy59w | hhuzfhr | 1,635,082,259 | 1,635,082,937 | 62 | 112 | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | Please finish school. I know it’s awful now, but you will have so many more options. You’re likely going to need a job while you work on publishing and even fast food and manual labor jobs expect you to have a high school diploma or GED. Everyone I know who dropped out has really regretted it. | 0 | 678 | 1.806452 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv46d2 | hhv7ch1 | 1,635,085,291 | 1,635,086,774 | 71 | 106 | The r/writingcirclejerk post just kinda writes itself here. | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | 0 | 1,483 | 1.492958 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv1z4d | hhv7ch1 | 1,635,084,222 | 1,635,086,774 | 68 | 106 | Judging by what you just wrote...no. Without the snark you shouldn't be asking a question about dropping high school to do something for money before you are actually making significant money from that thing. If you haven't been published you probably will not do well as a full-time writer. | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | 0 | 2,552 | 1.558824 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuy59w | hhv7ch1 | 1,635,082,259 | 1,635,086,774 | 62 | 106 | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | 0 | 4,515 | 1.709677 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv651h | hhv7ch1 | 1,635,086,226 | 1,635,086,774 | 58 | 106 | Here's some harsh truth, if your novels are written like this post, then no. Don't drop out if high school. Can't believe you're asking this. Have you not talked to your parents?? Writing should always be a second job until you make enough money for it to be your main job. | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | 0 | 548 | 1.827586 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv7ch1 | hhv0oc3 | 1,635,086,774 | 1,635,083,567 | 106 | 53 | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | Your post doesn’t really inspire confidence that you’ll be a successful writer. Stay in school. | 1 | 3,207 | 2 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv7ch1 | hhv5nik | 1,635,086,774 | 1,635,086,000 | 106 | 35 | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | As close as you are to finishing high school … hang in there if at all possible. Even once you’ve mastered the craft of writing (and few of us are as good as we think we are at the start—I know I wasn’t), there will at least as many years when writing can’t support you as when it can. Having a high school degree leaves you with so many more options than not having one. Which isn’t to minimize just how hard school can be, especially when you’re in the thick of dealing with it, or having a rough time of it. But if you’re stubborn enough to make a career of writing, you’re also stubborn enough to get through this one last year. Much luck to you, with school and with writing. You’ll be glad you stuck with both later. | 1 | 774 | 3.028571 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv7ch1 | hhv414y | 1,635,086,774 | 1,635,085,221 | 106 | 26 | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | Of course you can. Being homeless isn't always as bad as you might think. If you live near a big city (at least in the US), you can usually find homeless shelters that give you free food, and often clothing. True story: I had more clothes when I lived under a bridge than I have in my closet right now. I mean I never wore most of them, but I had them... Make sure you start out somewhere warm, though. Surviving winters up in the Midwest is not for the uncreative or the inexperienced. | 1 | 1,553 | 4.076923 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv7ch1 | hhv3i3x | 1,635,086,774 | 1,635,084,963 | 106 | 22 | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | Lol. "Should I drop out of high school?" I'm fairly certain you should be talking about that with your parents and those people closest to you as this is a major decision which can have wide ranging impact on your life. Asking some randos on the interwebz about such a drastic decision is about the most idiotic thing imaginable. How are you to ascertain which responses truly have your best interests at heart? You can't. I'm gonna go out in a limb and guess that you've already discussed this with your parents and didn't like their answer. | 1 | 1,811 | 4.818182 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv188v | hhv7ch1 | 1,635,083,848 | 1,635,086,774 | 15 | 106 | At the very least get one of the books you've already written published first and see if it makes any money. | Yep…as long as you dont mind being hungry and homeless. You can do anything you want. | 0 | 2,926 | 7.066667 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv8nxh | hhvfjqv | 1,635,087,366 | 1,635,090,458 | 83 | 95 | No, you can't. To be a writer, you have to eat and live somewhere, you know? If you think school keeps you away from writing, just imagine how much living under a bridge and begging for money all day will. Or much less dramatic, but very much likely scenario, waiting in a diner 6 days a week, 12 hours a day. That also keeps you from writing. For every succesful writer who earns enough from writing to live comfortably (not JK Rowling level, just comfortably) there are about a hundred thousand aspiring writers. Honestly, if at the age of 18 you are such an idiot that believes you will succeed for sure, no backup plan needed, then I seriously doubt your writing skills too. | No. That's a very stupid idea. If you want the honest truth, your books are likely not good enough to publish and you wont be a good enough writer for years to come. Keep working at it, but dont drop out of high school | 0 | 3,092 | 1.144578 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhvfjqv | hhv46d2 | 1,635,090,458 | 1,635,085,291 | 95 | 71 | No. That's a very stupid idea. If you want the honest truth, your books are likely not good enough to publish and you wont be a good enough writer for years to come. Keep working at it, but dont drop out of high school | The r/writingcirclejerk post just kinda writes itself here. | 1 | 5,167 | 1.338028 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhvfjqv | hhv1z4d | 1,635,090,458 | 1,635,084,222 | 95 | 68 | No. That's a very stupid idea. If you want the honest truth, your books are likely not good enough to publish and you wont be a good enough writer for years to come. Keep working at it, but dont drop out of high school | Judging by what you just wrote...no. Without the snark you shouldn't be asking a question about dropping high school to do something for money before you are actually making significant money from that thing. If you haven't been published you probably will not do well as a full-time writer. | 1 | 6,236 | 1.397059 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhuy59w | hhvfjqv | 1,635,082,259 | 1,635,090,458 | 62 | 95 | Writing should never be your backup plan. Ask your guidance counselor for help, and start looking into community colleges. | No. That's a very stupid idea. If you want the honest truth, your books are likely not good enough to publish and you wont be a good enough writer for years to come. Keep working at it, but dont drop out of high school | 0 | 8,199 | 1.532258 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhvfjqv | hhv651h | 1,635,090,458 | 1,635,086,226 | 95 | 58 | No. That's a very stupid idea. If you want the honest truth, your books are likely not good enough to publish and you wont be a good enough writer for years to come. Keep working at it, but dont drop out of high school | Here's some harsh truth, if your novels are written like this post, then no. Don't drop out if high school. Can't believe you're asking this. Have you not talked to your parents?? Writing should always be a second job until you make enough money for it to be your main job. | 1 | 4,232 | 1.637931 | ||
qes350 | writing_train | 0.6 | Can I drop high school to become a writer? I've always been a writer, already wrote several books and I all that is left for me is to be published. The problem is I don't have time to write anymore because of school. And I'm not adapted to the school system, failing all my exams etc... Hence why I'm asking if uts possible to drop high school in grade 12? | hhv0oc3 | hhvfjqv | 1,635,083,567 | 1,635,090,458 | 53 | 95 | Your post doesn’t really inspire confidence that you’ll be a successful writer. Stay in school. | No. That's a very stupid idea. If you want the honest truth, your books are likely not good enough to publish and you wont be a good enough writer for years to come. Keep working at it, but dont drop out of high school | 0 | 6,891 | 1.792453 |
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