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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26 Lol fml
University classes force you to attempt things you otherwise wouldn't. Often for no apparent benefit, until a decade later, you suddenly have an Aha moment and realize it wasn't pointless.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26 Lol fml
You can’t workshop on a YouTube video. The ability to give and receive feedback in a creative writing class is invaluable.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I more and more feel that college is not worth the money it charges for most fields. Particularly computers and writing. If you want to take english classes in your spare time, I suggest those over taking an actual course. There's online learning stuff you can find for free, but the best thing to do is form a group of real people that will help you as an individual. Or just find yourself, and write the things that are in your soul.
The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
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xix8am
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
I turn 28 next week and I'm currently enrolled as an English major. This semester is mostly literature-focused (rather than writing focused), but I have taken a handful of writing classes already. A good professor will make a world of difference in developing your skill as a writer. I know the classes I've taken have worked wonders, and I probably would be where I am as a writer now without them. That said, as you pointed out, college classes can be expensive, and while self-teaching (with the help of the internet) might not be as expedited, it can certainly be done. If you want a degree anyway, then writing classes are definitely worth it, but if your only goal is improving your writing skill, then self-instruction might be a better choice, especially is cost is a concern.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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Creative writing classes are just workshops with grades. I found it beneficial when in college.
The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
You can’t find fellow writers to critique your work on YouTube.
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xix8am
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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You want to find something that gives you the opportunity to both give and get feedback. Learning to give good feedback will make you look at the layers of what is being written and you can apply that to your own work. Look for a writer's association in your area. Look for a critique group. If you can't find one, start one. If you need to resort to looking for critiques online, try Scribophile. You have to earn points by giving feedback before you can submit your own work, which is a pretty good system. Scribophile also isn't public (behind a membership login) so your work isn't published. Don't get feedback from places like Wattpad, that's kind of like the wild west.
The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
I am about to graduate with my BA in Creative Writing and English with a concentration in fiction and for me it has definitely been worth it! I’ve been a writer all of my life and I have seen a huge improvement since starting school. I am looking at getting an MFA next so I can hone my skills even further. I think whether it is worth it or not depends on you and what you want out of it. It also depends on if you have the time and money to dedicate. One recommendation I have is to get the book: Save The Cat! Writes A Novel. That book has a wealth of info in it. A lot of which I learned in my classes. Getting feedback from peers is also a big part of improving your skills. I also recommend reading a LOT! Read in all genres. Also, don’t just look at the plot, analyze everything about the writing. Learn about the author too. Look at the most successful authors, or the ones you like the most, and read up on what they did to get to where they are. Did they go to school? Write for small newspapers? Did they do a summer internship at a publishing company? Did they take 20 years to publish their first novel? Figure out what worked for them and see what you can borrow from their journey that might help you along yours. The biggest tip my professors told me was to write. Write as often as you can. Go stand outside and smell the air and write about the details using your senses. Go to the coffee shop and watch the people and pick a few to write about. Try writing in different genres too. Take one scene in your novel or a short story and rewrite it from different viewpoints (1st, 2nd, 3rd POV, or if it is about a woman with kids try writing it from the kid’s POV). You can learn a lot about your story and characters by doing this. There is so much you can learn from going to school to write. But there is also a lot you can learn on your own. Only you can decide what you feel is the right choice for you as a writer.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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It depends. The only real way to find out is to try it. One good thing that some college writing courses do is they make you read, both published works (some of which you might not have picked up if you were reading for fun) and the unpublished works of others in your class. Learning to write is not like learning to do your own taxes or getting swole at the gym in that there isn't a roadmap to how to become the best writer ever, like there's a lot of craft you learn by osmosis or develop on your own, not through a textbook, and also because at a certain point becoming a better writer is about entering the community of other writers and being in conversation with their writing. Which is why reading is essential, but a lot of amateur writers don't read. Granted, maybe that's not the case for you (although a co-benefit of college is having a pre-made community of people with whom to discuss what you're reading), but yeah, this is a thing that I feel gets often missed in these discussions.
The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
First, college classes often have a workshop format, which allows you to get real feedback. Which is obviously helpful for syntax, understanding, etc. But can also be invaluable in learning how things that you say are perceived. Second, as other people have said, college classes will make you write things that you wouldn't have otherwise written. I have no interest in theater but I still think one of the most creative, interesting things I've ever written was a Zombie Satire play that I had to write for a freshman intro creative writing class. Third, college professors, by nature, will make you write when you don't want to write and correct things that you don't want to have to correct. While this can initially be annoying, it gets you to use what a professional writing process will look like and teaches you how to "push through."
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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University classes force you to attempt things you otherwise wouldn't. Often for no apparent benefit, until a decade later, you suddenly have an Aha moment and realize it wasn't pointless.
The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
You can’t workshop on a YouTube video. The ability to give and receive feedback in a creative writing class is invaluable.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
No. There are plenty of books that will teach you the same thing. Read a couple about story structure, grammar, editing, and read a different genre book to keep your mind fresh. Join a writing group online, **write** daily, and you're already doing better than most.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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depends on the professor. their attitude and quality can vary dramatically. a lot of academia is frankly out of touch with the external world. you might take a literature class hoping to learn about writing fiction. but end up get lectured on Karl Marx or the (bizarre ideas) of Jacques Lacan, a French psychoanalyst, neither of which will be helpful to the vast majority of writers. another issue can be that many professors emphasize a specific style of writing without much mass-audience appeal. they can lean towards a very stilted, restrictive minimalism that for whatever reason is popular among academics. so IMO check with former students, in-person on online, and find a syllabus and reading list to evaluate if any given teacher lines up with your goals.
The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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The purpose of college classes isn't really the knowledge itself. You can learn most things through desk research. The importance comes from getting regular feedback specific to your work, hearing feedback given to other amateurs, and most importantly - networking. You can't get any of that from a YouTube channel.
Or better, a college writing class on YouTube. Brandon Sanderson has one and you can find it there.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I turn 28 next week and I'm currently enrolled as an English major. This semester is mostly literature-focused (rather than writing focused), but I have taken a handful of writing classes already. A good professor will make a world of difference in developing your skill as a writer. I know the classes I've taken have worked wonders, and I probably would be where I am as a writer now without them. That said, as you pointed out, college classes can be expensive, and while self-teaching (with the help of the internet) might not be as expedited, it can certainly be done. If you want a degree anyway, then writing classes are definitely worth it, but if your only goal is improving your writing skill, then self-instruction might be a better choice, especially is cost is a concern.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I turn 28 next week and I'm currently enrolled as an English major. This semester is mostly literature-focused (rather than writing focused), but I have taken a handful of writing classes already. A good professor will make a world of difference in developing your skill as a writer. I know the classes I've taken have worked wonders, and I probably would be where I am as a writer now without them. That said, as you pointed out, college classes can be expensive, and while self-teaching (with the help of the internet) might not be as expedited, it can certainly be done. If you want a degree anyway, then writing classes are definitely worth it, but if your only goal is improving your writing skill, then self-instruction might be a better choice, especially is cost is a concern.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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Creative writing classes are just workshops with grades. I found it beneficial when in college.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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Creative writing classes are just workshops with grades. I found it beneficial when in college.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
You can’t find fellow writers to critique your work on YouTube.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
You want to find something that gives you the opportunity to both give and get feedback. Learning to give good feedback will make you look at the layers of what is being written and you can apply that to your own work. Look for a writer's association in your area. Look for a critique group. If you can't find one, start one. If you need to resort to looking for critiques online, try Scribophile. You have to earn points by giving feedback before you can submit your own work, which is a pretty good system. Scribophile also isn't public (behind a membership login) so your work isn't published. Don't get feedback from places like Wattpad, that's kind of like the wild west.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
I am about to graduate with my BA in Creative Writing and English with a concentration in fiction and for me it has definitely been worth it! I’ve been a writer all of my life and I have seen a huge improvement since starting school. I am looking at getting an MFA next so I can hone my skills even further. I think whether it is worth it or not depends on you and what you want out of it. It also depends on if you have the time and money to dedicate. One recommendation I have is to get the book: Save The Cat! Writes A Novel. That book has a wealth of info in it. A lot of which I learned in my classes. Getting feedback from peers is also a big part of improving your skills. I also recommend reading a LOT! Read in all genres. Also, don’t just look at the plot, analyze everything about the writing. Learn about the author too. Look at the most successful authors, or the ones you like the most, and read up on what they did to get to where they are. Did they go to school? Write for small newspapers? Did they do a summer internship at a publishing company? Did they take 20 years to publish their first novel? Figure out what worked for them and see what you can borrow from their journey that might help you along yours. The biggest tip my professors told me was to write. Write as often as you can. Go stand outside and smell the air and write about the details using your senses. Go to the coffee shop and watch the people and pick a few to write about. Try writing in different genres too. Take one scene in your novel or a short story and rewrite it from different viewpoints (1st, 2nd, 3rd POV, or if it is about a woman with kids try writing it from the kid’s POV). You can learn a lot about your story and characters by doing this. There is so much you can learn from going to school to write. But there is also a lot you can learn on your own. Only you can decide what you feel is the right choice for you as a writer.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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It depends. The only real way to find out is to try it. One good thing that some college writing courses do is they make you read, both published works (some of which you might not have picked up if you were reading for fun) and the unpublished works of others in your class. Learning to write is not like learning to do your own taxes or getting swole at the gym in that there isn't a roadmap to how to become the best writer ever, like there's a lot of craft you learn by osmosis or develop on your own, not through a textbook, and also because at a certain point becoming a better writer is about entering the community of other writers and being in conversation with their writing. Which is why reading is essential, but a lot of amateur writers don't read. Granted, maybe that's not the case for you (although a co-benefit of college is having a pre-made community of people with whom to discuss what you're reading), but yeah, this is a thing that I feel gets often missed in these discussions.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
First, college classes often have a workshop format, which allows you to get real feedback. Which is obviously helpful for syntax, understanding, etc. But can also be invaluable in learning how things that you say are perceived. Second, as other people have said, college classes will make you write things that you wouldn't have otherwise written. I have no interest in theater but I still think one of the most creative, interesting things I've ever written was a Zombie Satire play that I had to write for a freshman intro creative writing class. Third, college professors, by nature, will make you write when you don't want to write and correct things that you don't want to have to correct. While this can initially be annoying, it gets you to use what a professional writing process will look like and teaches you how to "push through."
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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University classes force you to attempt things you otherwise wouldn't. Often for no apparent benefit, until a decade later, you suddenly have an Aha moment and realize it wasn't pointless.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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You can’t workshop on a YouTube video. The ability to give and receive feedback in a creative writing class is invaluable.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
No. There are plenty of books that will teach you the same thing. Read a couple about story structure, grammar, editing, and read a different genre book to keep your mind fresh. Join a writing group online, **write** daily, and you're already doing better than most.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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depends on the professor. their attitude and quality can vary dramatically. a lot of academia is frankly out of touch with the external world. you might take a literature class hoping to learn about writing fiction. but end up get lectured on Karl Marx or the (bizarre ideas) of Jacques Lacan, a French psychoanalyst, neither of which will be helpful to the vast majority of writers. another issue can be that many professors emphasize a specific style of writing without much mass-audience appeal. they can lean towards a very stilted, restrictive minimalism that for whatever reason is popular among academics. so IMO check with former students, in-person on online, and find a syllabus and reading list to evaluate if any given teacher lines up with your goals.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
Or better, a college writing class on YouTube. Brandon Sanderson has one and you can find it there.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I take a cheap writing class through my local community college's adult education programs. It's interesting, and has been very helpful for me. I don't get a ton of better advice about the craft. Realistically I doubt any college professor is going to be better than Sanderson for that. (Though beware of only taking instruction from the greats. Agassi's coach wasn't a superstar player.) What I do get is exposure to more diverse voices who are also developing and are closer to my level, which is instructive; exposure to other audiences; feedback from a wider group that includes people outside my "target audience"; the benefits of critiquing others; a weekly meeting focused on writing (which can be helpful in itself); and the exercises and homework. For me, it is worth the $9 per class or so it comes out to. Hope this helps.
There is clearly some worth in paying for college writing classes, but in reality they aren't teaching you anything you can't learn on your own for free. And unlike law or medicine, you don't need to be licensed to be a writer. Besides, you can actually hire current or former traditional publishing editors to review your work. It costs vastly less than college and it is a great learning.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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You can’t find fellow writers to critique your work on YouTube.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
You want to find something that gives you the opportunity to both give and get feedback. Learning to give good feedback will make you look at the layers of what is being written and you can apply that to your own work. Look for a writer's association in your area. Look for a critique group. If you can't find one, start one. If you need to resort to looking for critiques online, try Scribophile. You have to earn points by giving feedback before you can submit your own work, which is a pretty good system. Scribophile also isn't public (behind a membership login) so your work isn't published. Don't get feedback from places like Wattpad, that's kind of like the wild west.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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I am about to graduate with my BA in Creative Writing and English with a concentration in fiction and for me it has definitely been worth it! I’ve been a writer all of my life and I have seen a huge improvement since starting school. I am looking at getting an MFA next so I can hone my skills even further. I think whether it is worth it or not depends on you and what you want out of it. It also depends on if you have the time and money to dedicate. One recommendation I have is to get the book: Save The Cat! Writes A Novel. That book has a wealth of info in it. A lot of which I learned in my classes. Getting feedback from peers is also a big part of improving your skills. I also recommend reading a LOT! Read in all genres. Also, don’t just look at the plot, analyze everything about the writing. Learn about the author too. Look at the most successful authors, or the ones you like the most, and read up on what they did to get to where they are. Did they go to school? Write for small newspapers? Did they do a summer internship at a publishing company? Did they take 20 years to publish their first novel? Figure out what worked for them and see what you can borrow from their journey that might help you along yours. The biggest tip my professors told me was to write. Write as often as you can. Go stand outside and smell the air and write about the details using your senses. Go to the coffee shop and watch the people and pick a few to write about. Try writing in different genres too. Take one scene in your novel or a short story and rewrite it from different viewpoints (1st, 2nd, 3rd POV, or if it is about a woman with kids try writing it from the kid’s POV). You can learn a lot about your story and characters by doing this. There is so much you can learn from going to school to write. But there is also a lot you can learn on your own. Only you can decide what you feel is the right choice for you as a writer.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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It depends. The only real way to find out is to try it. One good thing that some college writing courses do is they make you read, both published works (some of which you might not have picked up if you were reading for fun) and the unpublished works of others in your class. Learning to write is not like learning to do your own taxes or getting swole at the gym in that there isn't a roadmap to how to become the best writer ever, like there's a lot of craft you learn by osmosis or develop on your own, not through a textbook, and also because at a certain point becoming a better writer is about entering the community of other writers and being in conversation with their writing. Which is why reading is essential, but a lot of amateur writers don't read. Granted, maybe that's not the case for you (although a co-benefit of college is having a pre-made community of people with whom to discuss what you're reading), but yeah, this is a thing that I feel gets often missed in these discussions.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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First, college classes often have a workshop format, which allows you to get real feedback. Which is obviously helpful for syntax, understanding, etc. But can also be invaluable in learning how things that you say are perceived. Second, as other people have said, college classes will make you write things that you wouldn't have otherwise written. I have no interest in theater but I still think one of the most creative, interesting things I've ever written was a Zombie Satire play that I had to write for a freshman intro creative writing class. Third, college professors, by nature, will make you write when you don't want to write and correct things that you don't want to have to correct. While this can initially be annoying, it gets you to use what a professional writing process will look like and teaches you how to "push through."
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
University classes force you to attempt things you otherwise wouldn't. Often for no apparent benefit, until a decade later, you suddenly have an Aha moment and realize it wasn't pointless.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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You can’t workshop on a YouTube video. The ability to give and receive feedback in a creative writing class is invaluable.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
No. There are plenty of books that will teach you the same thing. Read a couple about story structure, grammar, editing, and read a different genre book to keep your mind fresh. Join a writing group online, **write** daily, and you're already doing better than most.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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depends on the professor. their attitude and quality can vary dramatically. a lot of academia is frankly out of touch with the external world. you might take a literature class hoping to learn about writing fiction. but end up get lectured on Karl Marx or the (bizarre ideas) of Jacques Lacan, a French psychoanalyst, neither of which will be helpful to the vast majority of writers. another issue can be that many professors emphasize a specific style of writing without much mass-audience appeal. they can lean towards a very stilted, restrictive minimalism that for whatever reason is popular among academics. so IMO check with former students, in-person on online, and find a syllabus and reading list to evaluate if any given teacher lines up with your goals.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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Or better, a college writing class on YouTube. Brandon Sanderson has one and you can find it there.
If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
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Are college writing classes worth it compared to what I can find on YouTube? I've spent years passively absorbing YouTube writing advice and critique from channels like HelloFutureMe, OSP, Lindsey Ellis, Brandon Sanderson's lectures, etc. without actually writing anything. Earlier this year I finally started writing consistently, having finished the first draft of my first novel and done some freelance work on fiverr. I've just started to put all that advice into practice so I've got a long way to go but I feel I have a good grasp of the mechanics of storytelling. My concern is over how fast I will advance in skill, especially since I'm relatively late to actually find this passion at 26. I'm wondering if college classes will speed up my development as a writer. The first thing that comes to mind is they will probably have exercises and assignments to improve and test specific aspects of my writing which might help me improve faster than my current strategy of "write something until it's the best I can get it for the time the project is worth and then write something else". Not to mention the help and instruction a teacher can give. Even if it's only a little, it's better than nothing, right? But on the other hand, it's fairly expensive and YouTube has a whole lot of other writers and English majors with advice like those previously mentioned. Also, we're talking about Canadian College. So, better than American community college but not University level. I'm not sure I'd go to Uni as a full-time student unless it was necessary. For those who went to college for writing or English, do you think it's worth it?
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If you want a degree, then yes. But if that's not important, then absolutely not. I did a writing degree, but I learned way more outside of uni - then again, I wasn't a great student. The thing college does is give you the opportunity for community and peers to review and help advance your work, but honestly you can get that elsewhere for far cheaper. If I could do it again, I'd skip uni, learn by myself and supplement with short courses from places like the Australian Writers Centre.
I take a cheap writing class through my local community college's adult education programs. It's interesting, and has been very helpful for me. I don't get a ton of better advice about the craft. Realistically I doubt any college professor is going to be better than Sanderson for that. (Though beware of only taking instruction from the greats. Agassi's coach wasn't a superstar player.) What I do get is exposure to more diverse voices who are also developing and are closer to my level, which is instructive; exposure to other audiences; feedback from a wider group that includes people outside my "target audience"; the benefits of critiquing others; a weekly meeting focused on writing (which can be helpful in itself); and the exercises and homework. For me, it is worth the $9 per class or so it comes out to. Hope this helps.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I have a personal discord dedicated to my writing. I find it a lot easier to keep track of and easier to whip out on my phone whenever I get an idea to jot down than google docs or anything. I have channels for character ideas, plot outlines, brainstorming, etc. It's been very helpful in keep track of my notes.
WIKIDPAD thank me later
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
Scrivener is great
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I use Notion.
Scrivener is great
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Scrivener is great
WIKIDPAD thank me later
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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see; style guide i did a video on the topic recently but any good 'how to write' book or course should include talking about your style guide
Scrivener is great
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Scrivener is great
I do very little outlining until I'm almost finished to put everything in the order that I want it. Then I make a chronology so everything flows together, but it isn't necessarily in a linear timeline. I don't use a formal system, just a list of events.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I use Scrivener for all of this. It’s wonderful!
So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Is use OneNote and notes on my phone
So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwpyui
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
I have a 4'x6' white board I nailed to the wall behind my front door, and I write everything I wanna record on it. The rest of th stuff I'm not in range to jot down, I just leave scattered through a thousand notebooks and pocket pads and moleskines etc
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
www.SceneOne.app has scene-level notes/reminders that integrates into its Revision Board, so you can add/see your notes as you're writing your scenes. It also has character/location profiles. (Full disclosure: this is my own app.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep both a rough digital reference in Scrivener and a large binder with a bunch of sheet protectors (and some dividers for sections) for my series bible. If I were to go full digital I'd install a Wiki on my server for it, but I prefer this for now. My series bible looks sort of like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UXCMSGjvSU
So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Evernote + Scrivener
So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwpyui
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
I use a colour coded excel template with multiple tabs.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
WIKIDPAD thank me later
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwpyui
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
see; style guide i did a video on the topic recently but any good 'how to write' book or course should include talking about your style guide
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwpyui
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So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
I do very little outlining until I'm almost finished to put everything in the order that I want it. Then I make a chronology so everything flows together, but it isn't necessarily in a linear timeline. I don't use a formal system, just a list of events.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwpp88
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I dedicate a section of the notebook I use (trying to stick to one story only per notebook) for planning and brainstorming, then I just use different colours of ink for different tasks; orange for character info, black for scenes and outline, and so on. With some washi tape or paperclip dividers, it's really easy to navigate. On the digital side I use Notepad++, where I usually have a similar setup only with different tabs. It works for me, since I'm more comfortable writing by hand for this kind of writing.
So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Randomly remember them while writing like the clearly very prepared writer that I am.
So, I'm going to copy and paste a thing I wrote for another question because it's pretty much the same answer here. So! One thing I do is put. down. EVERYTHING. I take a shower and I think "oh, hey, Character A and B would have this kind of a past relationship", come up with a scene related to that, or realize I really want to emphasize the effect of that relationship on character A? I put it down in my little "scattered thoughts" notes section. All of my notes are digital, on different files depending on the kinda basic theme. I have a document solely for my outline, a document for the story's worldbuilding etc, and my "scattered thoughts" document where I've put all of my random ideas I've had over time for later use. This is what helps me most, but something else might work best for you. Anyhow, so I have all these ideas, yeah? Everyone does. Well, you know those times where you CAN'T. STOP. thinking about this one scene, but you can't write it for one reason or another? I make what can very generously be called an "outline" for the scene-- Rather than writing it, I put out the main ideas or important parts of scenes that I want to make a point of highlighting. Then, I can also mess with the formatting (I use bullet points and scale them over for related points, so I might leave a few empty--) to kinda empathize a moment to show how I want to write it. For example, I have: ●Oska laughs, but: ○"this is what happens when you try to run with {the big dogs}. You die." ○(GENE TRIES TO FIGHT!!!! Somehow slips out, but--) ○shoots her; Damaris falls to the ground ○(immediately grabbed by someone else) ● ● ● ●khonitva right beside Gene lifts gun, points it at Oska, and shoots ●shooter shocked ○drops gun ○chaos ○others shouting, moving toward them ○everyone pointing guns at each other!! ○Gene watching, waiting for his chance and hoping-- ●GUNSHOT ○all out chaos!! but/so, this stuff helps me kind-of... do the "hard" part of writing--planning out/remembering what i want to do for a scene. It's hard if you try to free-flow (but usually I'll free-flow more with long conversations because they're hard to outline and/or they'll feel more natural) because they're stuck like "what next?" but it really helps to have these kind of outlines to reference to when writing. Then, you know, I'm able to step away from writing to wait for my brain to be willing/able to and not forget anything. (It's nice because I can do the hard part of all the storytelling, focus, etc in outlines, then do the fancy wordwork when actually writing. Really helps separate the mindsets I need to do those things into manageable times.)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I use Scrivener for all of this. It’s wonderful!
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I use Notion.
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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WIKIDPAD thank me later
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw5wr9
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see; style guide i did a video on the topic recently but any good 'how to write' book or course should include talking about your style guide
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw67kv
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I do very little outlining until I'm almost finished to put everything in the order that I want it. Then I make a chronology so everything flows together, but it isn't necessarily in a linear timeline. I don't use a formal system, just a list of events.
Be true to yourself ln how much you can do, everything is already in your head. Your notes shouldn't be long, just enough to trigger the memory of the story you're writing. Some good notes to write in detail are major consistencies in your story, like the settings and relations between characters. Whatever you write is whatever you write and it's better to be writing something inconsistent then nothing at all. Once you have completed a rough manuscript then things can be altered and edited to keep consistency. Or even completely rewritten
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwe1fo
hbw5snj
1,630,993,163
1,630,987,880
5
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I use Scrivener for all of this. It’s wonderful!
I use Notion.
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw5ids
hbwe1fo
1,630,987,712
1,630,993,163
2
5
WIKIDPAD thank me later
I use Scrivener for all of this. It’s wonderful!
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5,451
2.5
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw5wr9
hbwe1fo
1,630,987,944
1,630,993,163
2
5
see; style guide i did a video on the topic recently but any good 'how to write' book or course should include talking about your style guide
I use Scrivener for all of this. It’s wonderful!
0
5,219
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwe1fo
hbw67kv
1,630,993,163
1,630,988,123
5
2
I use Scrivener for all of this. It’s wonderful!
I do very little outlining until I'm almost finished to put everything in the order that I want it. Then I make a chronology so everything flows together, but it isn't necessarily in a linear timeline. I don't use a formal system, just a list of events.
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5,040
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwim5s
hbxgyh6
1,630,996,462
1,631,021,751
4
5
Is use OneNote and notes on my phone
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwim5s
hbw5snj
1,630,996,462
1,630,987,880
4
3
Is use OneNote and notes on my phone
I use Notion.
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1.333333
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwim5s
hbw5ids
1,630,996,462
1,630,987,712
4
2
Is use OneNote and notes on my phone
WIKIDPAD thank me later
1
8,750
2
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwim5s
hbw5wr9
1,630,996,462
1,630,987,944
4
2
Is use OneNote and notes on my phone
see; style guide i did a video on the topic recently but any good 'how to write' book or course should include talking about your style guide
1
8,518
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw67kv
hbwim5s
1,630,988,123
1,630,996,462
2
4
I do very little outlining until I'm almost finished to put everything in the order that I want it. Then I make a chronology so everything flows together, but it isn't necessarily in a linear timeline. I don't use a formal system, just a list of events.
Is use OneNote and notes on my phone
0
8,339
2
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwn39m
hbxgyh6
1,631,000,098
1,631,021,751
4
5
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
0
21,653
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw5snj
hbwn39m
1,630,987,880
1,631,000,098
3
4
I use Notion.
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
0
12,218
1.333333
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwn39m
hbwjpx8
1,631,000,098
1,630,997,320
4
3
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
I have a 4'x6' white board I nailed to the wall behind my front door, and I write everything I wanna record on it. The rest of th stuff I'm not in range to jot down, I just leave scattered through a thousand notebooks and pocket pads and moleskines etc
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwn39m
hbwkhfu
1,631,000,098
1,630,997,923
4
3
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
www.SceneOne.app has scene-level notes/reminders that integrates into its Revision Board, so you can add/see your notes as you're writing your scenes. It also has character/location profiles. (Full disclosure: this is my own app.)
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2,175
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwn39m
hbwlhkp
1,631,000,098
1,630,998,743
4
3
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
I keep both a rough digital reference in Scrivener and a large binder with a bunch of sheet protectors (and some dividers for sections) for my series bible. If I were to go full digital I'd install a Wiki on my server for it, but I prefer this for now. My series bible looks sort of like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UXCMSGjvSU
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1,355
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pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwll1h
hbwn39m
1,630,998,823
1,631,000,098
3
4
Evernote + Scrivener
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
0
1,275
1.333333
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbwn39m
hbw5ids
1,631,000,098
1,630,987,712
4
2
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
WIKIDPAD thank me later
1
12,386
2
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw5wr9
hbwn39m
1,630,987,944
1,631,000,098
2
4
see; style guide i did a video on the topic recently but any good 'how to write' book or course should include talking about your style guide
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
0
12,154
2
pjfdbh
writing_train
0.94
How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
hbw67kv
hbwn39m
1,630,988,123
1,631,000,098
2
4
I do very little outlining until I'm almost finished to put everything in the order that I want it. Then I make a chronology so everything flows together, but it isn't necessarily in a linear timeline. I don't use a formal system, just a list of events.
>How do you keep track of your notes Software. Specifically: \- Evernote for clipping articles from the internet and writing my own notes \- Plottr for plotting and characters / locations \- Xmind and Scapple for mind maps
0
11,975
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pjfdbh
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
I use Notion.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I have a 4'x6' white board I nailed to the wall behind my front door, and I write everything I wanna record on it. The rest of th stuff I'm not in range to jot down, I just leave scattered through a thousand notebooks and pocket pads and moleskines etc
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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www.SceneOne.app has scene-level notes/reminders that integrates into its Revision Board, so you can add/see your notes as you're writing your scenes. It also has character/location profiles. (Full disclosure: this is my own app.)
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep both a rough digital reference in Scrivener and a large binder with a bunch of sheet protectors (and some dividers for sections) for my series bible. If I were to go full digital I'd install a Wiki on my server for it, but I prefer this for now. My series bible looks sort of like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UXCMSGjvSU
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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Evernote + Scrivener
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I use a colour coded excel template with multiple tabs.
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
SmartEdit Writer is pretty good for this kind of stuff, it has separate tabs you can make for it and you can put notes per chapter and stuff, very good easy way to keep stuff organized if you can get used to it.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
I have a sepperate document where I both have a overview of the story I'm writing, and a character sheet to each character. I'm ofc allowed to jump back and make changes, once I get to know the characters of the story even better. Sometimes when you write and the creativity just flows, you'll come up with better ideas for both plot and character development, so you won't want to stick to just one idea throughout the process. :)
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I use Notion, both for worldbuilding and general notes
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I put them all in a notes document on Google Docs.
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
I use a program called Joplin. It's a note-taking application in which I can easily add notes on plot, characters, etc, organized in their own pages with their own tabs. It's very convenient.
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How do you keep track of your notes for what you’re writing (plot points, character notes, etc.)? I have only started to become an aspiring writer within the last year or so, despite always enjoying it. This being said, I am still trying to figure out how to organize and fit it into my daily life. I am an organized person, but every time I try to keep notes of major plot points, character traits, relationship progressions/statuses, etc. I find it gets very messy very quickly. I am drawn more to pen and paper for note taking, although I see great value in the search functions of many electronic documents. I also have found that I will become so entrenched in the writing process that I forget to look back on the notes I’ve previously made and may sometimes go against something I previously outlined in the story. I know that this is all part of the learning curve and writing/editing process but I often get so nervous about consistency that it stops me from writing or being able to fully be indulged in the writing and story. So, to all of you beautiful people further established in this than I am, how do you keep your notes clean, organized, or in a way that you can easily look back at them even after a few days, weeks, or months of not writing your story? Are there apps, notebooks, literally anything that you have found that works for you?
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If you're a more visually inclined person, I can recommend Milanote, they have some pretty good pre-made modules specifically for planning novels and stuff. I find it a little bit lacking in module that outlines the story, but I'm not fully used to it yet :)
I keep a Onenote for it. I have a page where I keep a list of all characters with thier basic descriptions, like eye color, hair, heights, and tattoos. Sometimes I get really far in, and I have to remember, which arm that tattoo was on. I use this page the most. I have a general outline of plot points I want to hit in there. If I have a burst of inspiration for a particular scene I write up up, and stuff it in there. I keep write ups on organizations, and background world building stuff there. It's stuff that will never be fully written out in the book, but do effect how things work, just so I remember.
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