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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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you will learn more from controversial books then any other type.
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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How I write is how I expect a good blockbuster to make me feel. Short, succinct dialogue with minimal monologues, the character depth and arc you would want. To make that happen I write my chapter how I want (keeping it short, 3000 words max to keep the pacing fast) then I listen to the chapter through voice dictation. It allows me to hear it how the reader would, then I know what to address and it helps make it click when you compare what you wrote, to what you heard and why it sounds different.
Read your favorite authors with an eye toward doing those things. See how they do it. I put a paperclip on the page of a book marking a passage I want to remember. When I'm finished, I've had as many as 50 paperclips in a book. Then I go back through and copy the passages into the computer. I then have a library of things to read and give me inspiration.
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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How I write is how I expect a good blockbuster to make me feel. Short, succinct dialogue with minimal monologues, the character depth and arc you would want. To make that happen I write my chapter how I want (keeping it short, 3000 words max to keep the pacing fast) then I listen to the chapter through voice dictation. It allows me to hear it how the reader would, then I know what to address and it helps make it click when you compare what you wrote, to what you heard and why it sounds different.
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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Read your favorite authors with an eye toward doing those things. See how they do it. I put a paperclip on the page of a book marking a passage I want to remember. When I'm finished, I've had as many as 50 paperclips in a book. Then I go back through and copy the passages into the computer. I then have a library of things to read and give me inspiration.
Reading is the obvious one. Just writing is also obvious. Main thing I’ll say is don’t waste your time editing anything. Just push through. Once you start editing you want others to read it. When others read your first project, you realise it’s actually pretty bad. Once you realise it’s bad, you begin rewriting. Once you begin rewriting you start seeking perfection. Pretty bad loop
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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Reading is the obvious one. Just writing is also obvious. Main thing I’ll say is don’t waste your time editing anything. Just push through. Once you start editing you want others to read it. When others read your first project, you realise it’s actually pretty bad. Once you realise it’s bad, you begin rewriting. Once you begin rewriting you start seeking perfection. Pretty bad loop
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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Read and write. When you read you see how other writers describe things, how they control the pace, how they transition the scenes, and many other things. Different writer has different way of doing things, of course. So, read widely. If you don’t like some style, then don’t force yourself. Find the style you like. Read, read, read, and read. And then write, write, write, write, and write. Read a lot and write a lot. You’ll learn, and over time you will start developing your own style.
Read your favorite authors with an eye toward doing those things. See how they do it. I put a paperclip on the page of a book marking a passage I want to remember. When I'm finished, I've had as many as 50 paperclips in a book. Then I go back through and copy the passages into the computer. I then have a library of things to read and give me inspiration.
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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Read and write. When you read you see how other writers describe things, how they control the pace, how they transition the scenes, and many other things. Different writer has different way of doing things, of course. So, read widely. If you don’t like some style, then don’t force yourself. Find the style you like. Read, read, read, and read. And then write, write, write, write, and write. Read a lot and write a lot. You’ll learn, and over time you will start developing your own style.
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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Read your favorite authors with an eye toward doing those things. See how they do it. I put a paperclip on the page of a book marking a passage I want to remember. When I'm finished, I've had as many as 50 paperclips in a book. Then I go back through and copy the passages into the computer. I then have a library of things to read and give me inspiration.
After a certain amount of writing, STOP doing it and rest for a few minutes. Feel free to go to a restroom, grab a drink, or anything that doesn’t relate to your writing. When a short time has passed, come back to check your writing. You will be surprised of how much errors you can discover just by rereading on your own.
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Does anyone have good beginner writing tips? I want to become a published author. I have ideas for books all the time, but I just can’t figure out some things. Like, How to get a point across, how to explain a scene well without it getting wordy, body language. Those are the main things I struggle with, but there is way more. I need some advise, any is appreciated.
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After a certain amount of writing, STOP doing it and rest for a few minutes. Feel free to go to a restroom, grab a drink, or anything that doesn’t relate to your writing. When a short time has passed, come back to check your writing. You will be surprised of how much errors you can discover just by rereading on your own.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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B-but, sir/madam, how else could I confirm that my book is a masterpiece that has been rejected by every publishing house out of jealousy?
I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
On every reality TV show, the producer always picks that one contestant who had a wonderfully supportive family.... But couldn't take a lick of reality from their friends. When I see it in my professional life, I encourage others not to take it personally- but instead, to break out the popcorn. This Gonna Be Gud.gif
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6we60o
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I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
I remember the first time I got negative feedback it was kind of an ego death. Of course I was 19 and had the arrogance of a 19 year old who was a "gifted" writer compared to other 19 year-olds. The step between writing something good enough to please those who care about you and something good enough for a publisher is like the step between singing in your shower and singing opera. Yeah, talent helps, but you're not going to succeed on talent alone unless you're exceedingly lucky.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wcf5j
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Saying something is perfect is like saying your shit dont stink. A better way to phrase it is....its perfect to the creator.
I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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Ah, the good old Dunning–Kruger effect Note: Dunning–Kruger effect only refer to incompetent people thinking they’re much better than they actually are; it does not necessarily means incompetent people thinking they’re better than experts. In this case, the person in question does not claim to be better than the editors, they were simply too confident with their abilities.
I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I have an off-topic question for you as an editor: Beyond grammar mistakes, what would you say are the most common mistakes that you come across and do you give detailed advice on how those mistakes can be fixed? I'm just trying to understand what to expect an editor to do if they read my novel.
I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I read excellent advice many years ago that said while you’re writing, creating and doing your final draft- that is your baby. But the minute that you send it for editing and publishing, you have to change your mindset and make it a product-what can you do to improve this product so that it sells? Because if you send it out in the world like a child, no matter how ugly it is, you won’t want anyone to pick on your child. But if you think of it as a product that you want people to buy and enjoy its so much easier to make changes.
At the same time: don't necessarily take the editor's advice 100% of the time. There aren't many amazing authors and there aren't many amazing editors. Most are average. (Hence the word) An editor's suggestion can make your work worse or change it tonally / thematically into something that wasn't originally yours. Editing is important, sure. But it's not a catch-all.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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B-but, sir/madam, how else could I confirm that my book is a masterpiece that has been rejected by every publishing house out of jealousy?
I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6w8u8o
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On every reality TV show, the producer always picks that one contestant who had a wonderfully supportive family.... But couldn't take a lick of reality from their friends. When I see it in my professional life, I encourage others not to take it personally- but instead, to break out the popcorn. This Gonna Be Gud.gif
I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wea6k
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I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
I remember the first time I got negative feedback it was kind of an ego death. Of course I was 19 and had the arrogance of a 19 year old who was a "gifted" writer compared to other 19 year-olds. The step between writing something good enough to please those who care about you and something good enough for a publisher is like the step between singing in your shower and singing opera. Yeah, talent helps, but you're not going to succeed on talent alone unless you're exceedingly lucky.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wea6k
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I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
Saying something is perfect is like saying your shit dont stink. A better way to phrase it is....its perfect to the creator.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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Ah, the good old Dunning–Kruger effect Note: Dunning–Kruger effect only refer to incompetent people thinking they’re much better than they actually are; it does not necessarily means incompetent people thinking they’re better than experts. In this case, the person in question does not claim to be better than the editors, they were simply too confident with their abilities.
I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I have an off-topic question for you as an editor: Beyond grammar mistakes, what would you say are the most common mistakes that you come across and do you give detailed advice on how those mistakes can be fixed? I'm just trying to understand what to expect an editor to do if they read my novel.
I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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At the same time: don't necessarily take the editor's advice 100% of the time. There aren't many amazing authors and there aren't many amazing editors. Most are average. (Hence the word) An editor's suggestion can make your work worse or change it tonally / thematically into something that wasn't originally yours. Editing is important, sure. But it's not a catch-all.
I would be over the moon if an editor even said my story was mediocre. Mediocre is one step from OK and two steps from good. If they are willing to help me get there, I would edit my story a thousand times to be published.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wjumj
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I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
On every reality TV show, the producer always picks that one contestant who had a wonderfully supportive family.... But couldn't take a lick of reality from their friends. When I see it in my professional life, I encourage others not to take it personally- but instead, to break out the popcorn. This Gonna Be Gud.gif
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I remember the first time I got negative feedback it was kind of an ego death. Of course I was 19 and had the arrogance of a 19 year old who was a "gifted" writer compared to other 19 year-olds. The step between writing something good enough to please those who care about you and something good enough for a publisher is like the step between singing in your shower and singing opera. Yeah, talent helps, but you're not going to succeed on talent alone unless you're exceedingly lucky.
I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
Saying something is perfect is like saying your shit dont stink. A better way to phrase it is....its perfect to the creator.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
Ah, the good old Dunning–Kruger effect Note: Dunning–Kruger effect only refer to incompetent people thinking they’re much better than they actually are; it does not necessarily means incompetent people thinking they’re better than experts. In this case, the person in question does not claim to be better than the editors, they were simply too confident with their abilities.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
That took a turn I wasn't expecting, lol. I've been a professional writer for nearly 10 years, professional editor for one, and I have the opposite problem. I have full confidence in my writing and editing skills - and that's why I can't write a book. Nothing I write ever feels good enough to make it past chapter one, so I spend so much time painstakingly editing the material to the point where it resembles absolutely nothing of what it was when I started. Then, I never want to revisit it because it makes me physically ill to think about it any further. I know my shit's not perfect, and I don't think I could handle finally being able to finish something, only to be then ghosted by an editor who throws it in the outbox.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I have an off-topic question for you as an editor: Beyond grammar mistakes, what would you say are the most common mistakes that you come across and do you give detailed advice on how those mistakes can be fixed? I'm just trying to understand what to expect an editor to do if they read my novel.
I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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At the same time: don't necessarily take the editor's advice 100% of the time. There aren't many amazing authors and there aren't many amazing editors. Most are average. (Hence the word) An editor's suggestion can make your work worse or change it tonally / thematically into something that wasn't originally yours. Editing is important, sure. But it's not a catch-all.
I'm a show writer and creative producer, but I was recently pulled in to do business development for a company. Part of my job is to make sure their messaging is clear, appealing, and targeting the right audience in ways that reach them. They've had problems securing a lot of clients and can't figure out why, so they asked me to do some recon. The first thing I did was look at their website. It's clunky and not user-friendly. They have no "About us" section, so I know nothing about their history, story, or staff. They also have no unique brand, and I have no idea what they do or who their audience is. When doing recon, I heard the exact same concerns. I mention all of this nicely to them and tell them that I am looking at it from a PR point of view. I also mention that messaging is something I'm very skilled at and can help with. Their senior creative director blew up at me over Slack, telling me about how she also has a background in PR, marketing, advertising, copy editing, copywriting, etc., etc., etc. and she has been doing this a lot longer than me. She knows their website is perfect and other marketing folks have come in to give their analysis, and it also came back perfect. So I clearly didn't know what I was talking about. I was just like, "Why did you ask me to figure out why you weren't securing clients if you weren't open to hearing the problem areas?" 🙄 Also, I can never get past how overconfident people are of their skills. Their lack of self-awareness is shocking.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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On every reality TV show, the producer always picks that one contestant who had a wonderfully supportive family.... But couldn't take a lick of reality from their friends. When I see it in my professional life, I encourage others not to take it personally- but instead, to break out the popcorn. This Gonna Be Gud.gif
I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
I remember the first time I got negative feedback it was kind of an ego death. Of course I was 19 and had the arrogance of a 19 year old who was a "gifted" writer compared to other 19 year-olds. The step between writing something good enough to please those who care about you and something good enough for a publisher is like the step between singing in your shower and singing opera. Yeah, talent helps, but you're not going to succeed on talent alone unless you're exceedingly lucky.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
Saying something is perfect is like saying your shit dont stink. A better way to phrase it is....its perfect to the creator.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wexxt
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I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
Ah, the good old Dunning–Kruger effect Note: Dunning–Kruger effect only refer to incompetent people thinking they’re much better than they actually are; it does not necessarily means incompetent people thinking they’re better than experts. In this case, the person in question does not claim to be better than the editors, they were simply too confident with their abilities.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wexxt
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I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
I have an off-topic question for you as an editor: Beyond grammar mistakes, what would you say are the most common mistakes that you come across and do you give detailed advice on how those mistakes can be fixed? I'm just trying to understand what to expect an editor to do if they read my novel.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wdafj
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At the same time: don't necessarily take the editor's advice 100% of the time. There aren't many amazing authors and there aren't many amazing editors. Most are average. (Hence the word) An editor's suggestion can make your work worse or change it tonally / thematically into something that wasn't originally yours. Editing is important, sure. But it's not a catch-all.
I don’t understand how he could describe it as perfect. Nothing is perfect. There are weaknesses in even well written published books, in movies and tv shows. There is always something that could have been improved.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wad39
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And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
I remember the first time I got negative feedback it was kind of an ego death. Of course I was 19 and had the arrogance of a 19 year old who was a "gifted" writer compared to other 19 year-olds. The step between writing something good enough to please those who care about you and something good enough for a publisher is like the step between singing in your shower and singing opera. Yeah, talent helps, but you're not going to succeed on talent alone unless you're exceedingly lucky.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wbl3t
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Ah, the good old Dunning–Kruger effect Note: Dunning–Kruger effect only refer to incompetent people thinking they’re much better than they actually are; it does not necessarily means incompetent people thinking they’re better than experts. In this case, the person in question does not claim to be better than the editors, they were simply too confident with their abilities.
Saying something is perfect is like saying your shit dont stink. A better way to phrase it is....its perfect to the creator.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6wad39
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And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
Saying something is perfect is like saying your shit dont stink. A better way to phrase it is....its perfect to the creator.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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Ah, the good old Dunning–Kruger effect Note: Dunning–Kruger effect only refer to incompetent people thinking they’re much better than they actually are; it does not necessarily means incompetent people thinking they’re better than experts. In this case, the person in question does not claim to be better than the editors, they were simply too confident with their abilities.
And this is why I don't submit stuff lol. I learned a long time ago, if I really LOVE the way something came out, and don't want to edit or change it, I will defend it tooth and nail that "it's fine as is." BUT that means, it's fine as is FOR ME and only me. Which is okay, if I'm writing for me. Not for publishing or competitions, though. I'll ask so many people to read it over! And don't let friends/family read it unless you know they're going to be brutally honest.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
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I have an off-topic question for you as an editor: Beyond grammar mistakes, what would you say are the most common mistakes that you come across and do you give detailed advice on how those mistakes can be fixed? I'm just trying to understand what to expect an editor to do if they read my novel.
That took a turn I wasn't expecting, lol. I've been a professional writer for nearly 10 years, professional editor for one, and I have the opposite problem. I have full confidence in my writing and editing skills - and that's why I can't write a book. Nothing I write ever feels good enough to make it past chapter one, so I spend so much time painstakingly editing the material to the point where it resembles absolutely nothing of what it was when I started. Then, I never want to revisit it because it makes me physically ill to think about it any further. I know my shit's not perfect, and I don't think I could handle finally being able to finish something, only to be then ghosted by an editor who throws it in the outbox.
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Pro tip: If your book is perfect...don't submit it to an editor I am an editor for a living. One facet of my job is to review solicited and unsolicited manuscripts to determine whether they would fit the type of book we would publish *and* are up to the quality standards we expect of a non-edited manuscript. I have editors on my team with specialties who I turn to when something is submitted that isn't in my wheelhouse. One of those is poetry. I have a poetry editor on staff who has a Ph.D. in poetry, has published poetry on several platforms and worked for years with a poetry magazine. All that to say, he knows his stuff. Recently he reviewed a new submission and we both agreed that the poems were mediocre, at best. They have the potential to be better and we offered some targeted feedback when we sent our response. The author's response came back today. My poetry is perfect. All my friends and family say it is great. Literally, no one in my life has ever told me that my poetry has issues. Yeah, I know I don't use a single poetic form and one of my poems is seven pages long and rambles...but everyone loves it so...who are you to question it? I'm *not* going to edit any of these poems to be "commercial". So here's my helpful advice to authors: If you don't want to edit your writing and think your writing is perfect...don't submit it to an editor. Because I can promise it isn't. If you think it is perfect just the way it is, then why are you even submitting? Just publish it yourself. You clearly don't need an editor or a publishing team. Sell it to your friends and family since their opinions are clearly the more important ones. I can also say that neither I nor the other editor is trying to re-write this author's poetry. I don't want to make it more commercial, just better. His friends and family aren't helping him at all by telling him how wonderful his writing is. Find beta readers who are willing to be critical and understand the genre that you are writing.
h6whu9u
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That took a turn I wasn't expecting, lol. I've been a professional writer for nearly 10 years, professional editor for one, and I have the opposite problem. I have full confidence in my writing and editing skills - and that's why I can't write a book. Nothing I write ever feels good enough to make it past chapter one, so I spend so much time painstakingly editing the material to the point where it resembles absolutely nothing of what it was when I started. Then, I never want to revisit it because it makes me physically ill to think about it any further. I know my shit's not perfect, and I don't think I could handle finally being able to finish something, only to be then ghosted by an editor who throws it in the outbox.
At the same time: don't necessarily take the editor's advice 100% of the time. There aren't many amazing authors and there aren't many amazing editors. Most are average. (Hence the word) An editor's suggestion can make your work worse or change it tonally / thematically into something that wasn't originally yours. Editing is important, sure. But it's not a catch-all.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good thoughts.
I agree for the most part because you're basically just saying "write what you want to read", which is a great and well trodden piece of advice. A counter point, though, is that if you somehow figure out that you are really good at writing smutty romance you should probably just do that even if you have no interest in it because it makes a ton of cash. You don't really have to enjoy something to be good at it. There are soccer players who play at the highest level that don't care about or like soccer, they just play because they are really good.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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How do you self-asses such a question?
I agree for the most part because you're basically just saying "write what you want to read", which is a great and well trodden piece of advice. A counter point, though, is that if you somehow figure out that you are really good at writing smutty romance you should probably just do that even if you have no interest in it because it makes a ton of cash. You don't really have to enjoy something to be good at it. There are soccer players who play at the highest level that don't care about or like soccer, they just play because they are really good.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I realise how narcissistic this sounds, but I have a book with my editor at the moment and there have been two separate occasions where I've intended to re-read just the first few chapters and end up reading the whole thing in one sitting because I get really into it. :|
Good thoughts.
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How do you self-asses such a question?
I realise how narcissistic this sounds, but I have a book with my editor at the moment and there have been two separate occasions where I've intended to re-read just the first few chapters and end up reading the whole thing in one sitting because I get really into it. :|
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good thoughts.
Not even close to publishing yet but so far, I'm having this weird situation where in concept, I think my story is boring and if the premise was recited to me, I wouldn't be interested in it. However, when re-reading to edit what I have written (which I do a lot), I tend to get sucked in it and find myself smiling when it comes to the interactions between characters.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I thought of myself as arrogant/narcissistic because I often read my own writings during my downtime. I enjoy the story itself but above feelings cause me to be put off when it comes to publishing. I get your point, I just have a complicated mindset toward it that are my own hang ups.
Not even close to publishing yet but so far, I'm having this weird situation where in concept, I think my story is boring and if the premise was recited to me, I wouldn't be interested in it. However, when re-reading to edit what I have written (which I do a lot), I tend to get sucked in it and find myself smiling when it comes to the interactions between characters.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Not even close to publishing yet but so far, I'm having this weird situation where in concept, I think my story is boring and if the premise was recited to me, I wouldn't be interested in it. However, when re-reading to edit what I have written (which I do a lot), I tend to get sucked in it and find myself smiling when it comes to the interactions between characters.
How do you self-asses such a question?
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I cried while editing my latest book because I felt so bad for the character I created. Yeah... I would like it.
Good thoughts.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I thought of myself as arrogant/narcissistic because I often read my own writings during my downtime. I enjoy the story itself but above feelings cause me to be put off when it comes to publishing. I get your point, I just have a complicated mindset toward it that are my own hang ups.
I cried while editing my latest book because I felt so bad for the character I created. Yeah... I would like it.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I cried while editing my latest book because I felt so bad for the character I created. Yeah... I would like it.
How do you self-asses such a question?
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good thoughts.
How do you self-asses such a question?
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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How do you self-asses such a question?
I thought of myself as arrogant/narcissistic because I often read my own writings during my downtime. I enjoy the story itself but above feelings cause me to be put off when it comes to publishing. I get your point, I just have a complicated mindset toward it that are my own hang ups.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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>“Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” This is exactly why I chose the story that I chose as my first full book, because it was the kind of story 20 year old me would have wanted to read because they didn't make too many good books in this exact brand back then, or even now.
I'd suggest asking yourself that before you begin writing, to be honest.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I am of the opinion that any story worth writing is worth telling. If you aren't invested in the story enough to want to read it, then you should really ask yourself why you're writing it to begin with.
>“Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” This is exactly why I chose the story that I chose as my first full book, because it was the kind of story 20 year old me would have wanted to read because they didn't make too many good books in this exact brand back then, or even now.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I would also recommend that while you have a story worth writing, it’s a matter of how you tell it and about the audience(s) you wish to reach or ought to aim for. Who are your readers? Men? Women? The YA crowd? Older readers? A certain ethnic group or groups? Faith-based communities? Atheists? Who’s your audience? What moves you? Are you willing to delve into the field you write about so you can be smart enough to know whereof you speak? Ask yourself these questions and seek the right answers to them. And above all, be yourself when you write — nobody cares for someone who is a fake.
>“Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” This is exactly why I chose the story that I chose as my first full book, because it was the kind of story 20 year old me would have wanted to read because they didn't make too many good books in this exact brand back then, or even now.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I'd suggest asking yourself that before you begin writing, to be honest.
Good, wholesome advice. I think (and I could be very, very wrong) that most writers who are serious about it, write stories they think they'll like to read as well. Personally, my stories exist because I think they're awesome and I haven't read them anywhere else before. So I feel like I get to share something with the world that hasn't been shared before.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good, wholesome advice. I think (and I could be very, very wrong) that most writers who are serious about it, write stories they think they'll like to read as well. Personally, my stories exist because I think they're awesome and I haven't read them anywhere else before. So I feel like I get to share something with the world that hasn't been shared before.
I am of the opinion that any story worth writing is worth telling. If you aren't invested in the story enough to want to read it, then you should really ask yourself why you're writing it to begin with.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good, wholesome advice. I think (and I could be very, very wrong) that most writers who are serious about it, write stories they think they'll like to read as well. Personally, my stories exist because I think they're awesome and I haven't read them anywhere else before. So I feel like I get to share something with the world that hasn't been shared before.
I would also recommend that while you have a story worth writing, it’s a matter of how you tell it and about the audience(s) you wish to reach or ought to aim for. Who are your readers? Men? Women? The YA crowd? Older readers? A certain ethnic group or groups? Faith-based communities? Atheists? Who’s your audience? What moves you? Are you willing to delve into the field you write about so you can be smart enough to know whereof you speak? Ask yourself these questions and seek the right answers to them. And above all, be yourself when you write — nobody cares for someone who is a fake.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good, wholesome advice. I think (and I could be very, very wrong) that most writers who are serious about it, write stories they think they'll like to read as well. Personally, my stories exist because I think they're awesome and I haven't read them anywhere else before. So I feel like I get to share something with the world that hasn't been shared before.
The real issue for me is finding an artist and a comic company to publish it through.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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What’s wrong with writing for the sake of writing, though? Especially if you enjoy it.
Good, wholesome advice. I think (and I could be very, very wrong) that most writers who are serious about it, write stories they think they'll like to read as well. Personally, my stories exist because I think they're awesome and I haven't read them anywhere else before. So I feel like I get to share something with the world that hasn't been shared before.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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Good, wholesome advice. I think (and I could be very, very wrong) that most writers who are serious about it, write stories they think they'll like to read as well. Personally, my stories exist because I think they're awesome and I haven't read them anywhere else before. So I feel like I get to share something with the world that hasn't been shared before.
When I've written in the past, I've just written what I find interesting. I'm an odd egg, though. So maybe that's why I've never gotten anywhere 😅
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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✨Beta readers✨
I'd suggest asking yourself that before you begin writing, to be honest.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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I am of the opinion that any story worth writing is worth telling. If you aren't invested in the story enough to want to read it, then you should really ask yourself why you're writing it to begin with.
✨Beta readers✨
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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✨Beta readers✨
I would also recommend that while you have a story worth writing, it’s a matter of how you tell it and about the audience(s) you wish to reach or ought to aim for. Who are your readers? Men? Women? The YA crowd? Older readers? A certain ethnic group or groups? Faith-based communities? Atheists? Who’s your audience? What moves you? Are you willing to delve into the field you write about so you can be smart enough to know whereof you speak? Ask yourself these questions and seek the right answers to them. And above all, be yourself when you write — nobody cares for someone who is a fake.
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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The real issue for me is finding an artist and a comic company to publish it through.
✨Beta readers✨
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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What’s wrong with writing for the sake of writing, though? Especially if you enjoy it.
✨Beta readers✨
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Before you publish your book, first ask yourself… “Is this a story I’d enjoy reading, even if I wasn’t the one who wrote it?” I think this will help you figure out if you’re writing a story for the sake of writing it, or if it’s a story that’s truly worth telling. I feel this will also drive you to push out the best quality book you’re capable of creating.
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When I've written in the past, I've just written what I find interesting. I'm an odd egg, though. So maybe that's why I've never gotten anywhere 😅
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While beta-reading, is it better to ask for feedback after every chapter or only after they've read the whole book? Basically, what the title says. What's the best and most helpful way of receiving feedback from beta-readers?
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Both. While you'd definitely want an overall impression about how they felt about the book in general, what you really want to know is specifically how it's put together. Maybe some chapters are better than others, maybe they don't quite fit together in the order you put them, and maybe you missed some glaringly huge plot point that the beta reader felt was missing.
I think 'whole book' readings are far more helpful. Continuity is very important—especially if you find a reader/editor who's also reading other manuscripts. Reading one writer's chapter here, and another writer's chapter there, can mangle a reader's perception on style, or pacing, or plotting in general. And certain later chapters might influence various critiques in beginning chapters. For instance, let's say a writer relies on a particular, relatively important character in Act I, who then 'disappears' or receives far less stage time in Act's II and III. That character's presence might need to be scaled way back in the beginning, or buffed up in the later pages. But 'misplacing' a character in a story can leave readers wondering and can ultimately become a loose thread. (I mean this totally depends on your story of course...so I'm just speaking in vague generalities.) Or else a writer might allude to certain 'plot points' intended for later chapters, but then neglects to follow up. Again, those missing plot points can become *red herrings.* So, anyway, I'd insist (as much as one can when relying a beta reader) on a straight run-thru. That also gives *you* the ability to hone or tweak your book's overall continuity as well. If you're aware of certain (but fixable) issues toward the end of your manuscript, you're now forewarned with how to deal with certain elements—either by foreshadowing or tweaking or deleting those issues—up front. Should you so desire. And speaking of continuity (sorry, I'm straying a bit off track here) but I'm reminded of *Game Of Throne*'s (now famous) "Hodor" moment. The scene depends on hundreds of pages of deft plotting and continuity...and only works with forethought and proper stage direction from very early on. (And readers love 'full circle' moments like that.)
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While beta-reading, is it better to ask for feedback after every chapter or only after they've read the whole book? Basically, what the title says. What's the best and most helpful way of receiving feedback from beta-readers?
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It's up to you. As a writer and beta reader, I prefer to take notes throughout but only send feedback when I'm done with the whole book. My last beta reader suggested I cut an entire character after the first five chapters and then said never mind when they got to the end. Opinions change.
I think 'whole book' readings are far more helpful. Continuity is very important—especially if you find a reader/editor who's also reading other manuscripts. Reading one writer's chapter here, and another writer's chapter there, can mangle a reader's perception on style, or pacing, or plotting in general. And certain later chapters might influence various critiques in beginning chapters. For instance, let's say a writer relies on a particular, relatively important character in Act I, who then 'disappears' or receives far less stage time in Act's II and III. That character's presence might need to be scaled way back in the beginning, or buffed up in the later pages. But 'misplacing' a character in a story can leave readers wondering and can ultimately become a loose thread. (I mean this totally depends on your story of course...so I'm just speaking in vague generalities.) Or else a writer might allude to certain 'plot points' intended for later chapters, but then neglects to follow up. Again, those missing plot points can become *red herrings.* So, anyway, I'd insist (as much as one can when relying a beta reader) on a straight run-thru. That also gives *you* the ability to hone or tweak your book's overall continuity as well. If you're aware of certain (but fixable) issues toward the end of your manuscript, you're now forewarned with how to deal with certain elements—either by foreshadowing or tweaking or deleting those issues—up front. Should you so desire. And speaking of continuity (sorry, I'm straying a bit off track here) but I'm reminded of *Game Of Throne*'s (now famous) "Hodor" moment. The scene depends on hundreds of pages of deft plotting and continuity...and only works with forethought and proper stage direction from very early on. (And readers love 'full circle' moments like that.)
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While beta-reading, is it better to ask for feedback after every chapter or only after they've read the whole book? Basically, what the title says. What's the best and most helpful way of receiving feedback from beta-readers?
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I request that mine keep a legal pad with them as they read, and just write done any impression they have the instant they have it. I'm mostly interested in their first impressions. I find that first impressions of characters, places, settings, scenes, worlds, magic system, etc is what is going to make or break the book's success. The reader's first impression, good or bad, is going to stay with them the whole story, even if the story tells them the opposite of what their impression was. This is why my drafts are edited several times before beta readers get it. I don't want my beta readers being mini editors looking for grammar errors, typos, and plot holes. A beta reader is not an editor and they shouldn't feel compelled to make comments an editor would make. If my beta readers are pointing out grammar issues, plot issues, etc, then I've not done my job of seeing to it that my draft was edited well enough before it reaches them. Most of mine go through 7 drafts. But it can be as few as 4 or as many as 12, sometimes more. I like my work finished and self edited and revised as perfect as I can do on my own before handing it over to others. A beta reader is there to be a test reader. It is a beta reader's job to be the first readers and give first impressions. Because of this, my beta readers also get physical paperback print copies. Cover art is done. Formating is done. Typesetting is done. It has already been seen by alpha readers, editors. The beta reader is the last one who sees it before it goes to press. And they receive their print copy around 10 days before publication date, and usually if they don't read and respond within 48 hours, I don't use them again. I don't have time to dilly dally around and neither will I waste my time on lazy people who can't be trusted to do the job I paid them for.
It's up to you. As a writer and beta reader, I prefer to take notes throughout but only send feedback when I'm done with the whole book. My last beta reader suggested I cut an entire character after the first five chapters and then said never mind when they got to the end. Opinions change.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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That’s good to hear, because I’m working on my book, The Biography of Author Sean Douglas Mcardle. A torrid and lurid homoerotic tale. Based on a true story.
Okay, but what if I’m just after validation and to pitch unsuspecting people my novel. Am I allowed to post to Reddit asking for permission then?
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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You're completely right. I highly recommend Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
Okay, but what if I’m just after validation and to pitch unsuspecting people my novel. Am I allowed to post to Reddit asking for permission then?
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Thanks for making this. I don't even know if I want to publish the stories I'm writing because the stress of altering it to fit more mainstream tastes in order to get it published sounds bad. I'm writing a story with my sister that we have had in mind for a while now and it's really fun, so we really are just writing for ourselves. We like surprisingly each other with plot twists and reveals so it's really self sustained entertainment lol. That said, I'll still always listen to criticism. We criticize the hell out of each other too and try to improve our writing even though we aren't writing for anyone.
Okay, but what if I’m just after validation and to pitch unsuspecting people my novel. Am I allowed to post to Reddit asking for permission then?
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Okay, but what if I’m just after validation and to pitch unsuspecting people my novel. Am I allowed to post to Reddit asking for permission then?
I don’t have to ask Ja?
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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You're completely right. I highly recommend Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert.
I don’t have to ask Ja?
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I don’t have to ask Ja?
Thanks for making this. I don't even know if I want to publish the stories I'm writing because the stress of altering it to fit more mainstream tastes in order to get it published sounds bad. I'm writing a story with my sister that we have had in mind for a while now and it's really fun, so we really are just writing for ourselves. We like surprisingly each other with plot twists and reveals so it's really self sustained entertainment lol. That said, I'll still always listen to criticism. We criticize the hell out of each other too and try to improve our writing even though we aren't writing for anyone.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
I don’t have to ask Ja?
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I *really* thought this was going to say "your wife". :)
I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
Yeah, but can I...
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Here's some extra inspiration: If someone can write omegaverse mpreg porn and make a career out of it, you can literally write anything. Do you want to write about young, black, Jewish Adolf Hitler fighting against his evil self? Go for it! The memoirs of a flower pot? Good to me! Watching paint dry, the full experience retold? Who the hell cares! Writer whatever the hell you want, just try and find the niche for it beforehand if you want to make money out of it.
I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
> Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Eh, my goal is certainly to be read. If my books will have the audience of one, then what was the point? I could've just let the book exist in my head and spent those hundreds of hours of writing time watching netflix.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
Not me only writing smut with no real story because it just feels like adding any story to p0*n, without ever publishing anything because it feels so very private and embarrassing, finally feeling like yes, I’m the only one who needs to be satisfied with this. I can’t be the only one writing stuff like that that’s on here though, right? 😬 Thanks for making this motivational post!
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I needed this, thank you (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ♡
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
I'm a bit worried about this "do it for u" thing, i mean. I'm not a writer , i'm just someone that loves writing,and sometimes tiny words, i usually write 1 page a day without particular goal ,just for the sake of writing and finding good comparaison/metaphor. Just for my self But i don't want to write a book, i mean, i could write a book, and thats would be great, but thats not my dream, even if i got every day plenty of idea, i can't focus on one idea cause i'm not really emotionally attached to this. For me , every piece of art u release (and writing is an art) is for validation, we can't fool us, why do u show this painting to someone, why do you make someone listen your new piano composition ? Why do you make ur brother read those pages you write for your new story ? Cause u want validation, u want someone to know that you did this, and that's totally fine, the problem is : trying to please to an audience and change yourself, you need to be you but with the intent to have an acknowledgement of your talent (that's my point of view) Also what would you think if you dream to be a writer and all your life you write but no one in the planet read it, even your parent dont read it ? are you a writer ?
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
Thank you, I needed to hear this.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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I was paralyzed from writing by the time I left college. I thought if I was going to write, it needed to be something that I could show off, could make money, or get published. Something hit me when I turned 30. Fuck, I just want to write. So now I'm 100 pages into some weird fantasy demon-people erotica and it's never been more fun. No one except my husband is aware I'm doing it. It's actually doing pretty well on the website where I post the chapters, which is enough to motivate me to keep going.
>YOURSELF. He says "No."
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Yeah, but can I...
I *really* thought this was going to say "your wife". :)
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Yeah, but can I...
Here's some extra inspiration: If someone can write omegaverse mpreg porn and make a career out of it, you can literally write anything. Do you want to write about young, black, Jewish Adolf Hitler fighting against his evil self? Go for it! The memoirs of a flower pot? Good to me! Watching paint dry, the full experience retold? Who the hell cares! Writer whatever the hell you want, just try and find the niche for it beforehand if you want to make money out of it.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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> Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Eh, my goal is certainly to be read. If my books will have the audience of one, then what was the point? I could've just let the book exist in my head and spent those hundreds of hours of writing time watching netflix.
Here's some extra inspiration: If someone can write omegaverse mpreg porn and make a career out of it, you can literally write anything. Do you want to write about young, black, Jewish Adolf Hitler fighting against his evil self? Go for it! The memoirs of a flower pot? Good to me! Watching paint dry, the full experience retold? Who the hell cares! Writer whatever the hell you want, just try and find the niche for it beforehand if you want to make money out of it.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Here's some extra inspiration: If someone can write omegaverse mpreg porn and make a career out of it, you can literally write anything. Do you want to write about young, black, Jewish Adolf Hitler fighting against his evil self? Go for it! The memoirs of a flower pot? Good to me! Watching paint dry, the full experience retold? Who the hell cares! Writer whatever the hell you want, just try and find the niche for it beforehand if you want to make money out of it.
Not me only writing smut with no real story because it just feels like adding any story to p0*n, without ever publishing anything because it feels so very private and embarrassing, finally feeling like yes, I’m the only one who needs to be satisfied with this. I can’t be the only one writing stuff like that that’s on here though, right? 😬 Thanks for making this motivational post!
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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>YOURSELF. He says "No."
Here's some extra inspiration: If someone can write omegaverse mpreg porn and make a career out of it, you can literally write anything. Do you want to write about young, black, Jewish Adolf Hitler fighting against his evil self? Go for it! The memoirs of a flower pot? Good to me! Watching paint dry, the full experience retold? Who the hell cares! Writer whatever the hell you want, just try and find the niche for it beforehand if you want to make money out of it.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
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Not me only writing smut with no real story because it just feels like adding any story to p0*n, without ever publishing anything because it feels so very private and embarrassing, finally feeling like yes, I’m the only one who needs to be satisfied with this. I can’t be the only one writing stuff like that that’s on here though, right? 😬 Thanks for making this motivational post!
> Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Eh, my goal is certainly to be read. If my books will have the audience of one, then what was the point? I could've just let the book exist in my head and spent those hundreds of hours of writing time watching netflix.
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There is only ONE person you have to get permission from to write your book… YOURSELF. And you are free to write whatever you so desire. Do not ask your mom, your dad, your teacher, your husband or wife, an editor or publisher, especially do not ask for permission on a subreddit— do not ask anyone for permission. Ask yourself. Write for an audience of one; YOU. No one else. Satisfy only one critic; YOURSELF. But don’t go easy on yourself. Do not be easily self-satisfied. Be the harshest critic you can can be. You’ve spent a lifetime developing your taste and critical eye, so now turn that inward. Make something that you actually think is good. Make something that you believe personally belongs on the shelf next to your favorite books. Or maybe the shelf below. Do not write for the market. Do not write with a payday in mind. Do not write to capture the eye of an editor or to get published. WRITE BECAUSE YOU LOVE WRITING. Write because you enjoy the process of exorcising the story demon you have in your head that is possessing your every thought. Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Write for YOU and only you. That’s the philosophy I live by. I struggled until I figured that out for myself.
hzii666
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> Do not write to be read. Write to have written. Eh, my goal is certainly to be read. If my books will have the audience of one, then what was the point? I could've just let the book exist in my head and spent those hundreds of hours of writing time watching netflix.
I needed this, thank you (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ♡
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