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onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5vanz7 | h5tv49g | 1,626,785,233 | 1,626,747,991 | 4 | 2 | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | Same here. Let's wait to see who gives a good advice 😅. | 1 | 37,242 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5uhivj | h5vanz7 | 1,626,761,937 | 1,626,785,233 | 2 | 4 | Stay regimented so you don’t think about whether to write or not. I write every single day between five and seven; there is no decision. Also make it pleasurable; play mellow music. I drink plenty of coffee and Diet Coke, my two favorite drinks. If I am hungry, I have a light snack. If there’s extraneous noise in my home, I will close the doors to the room I am in. I usually have my dogs in with me for company. I have everything I need. I am productive. | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | 0 | 23,296 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5uj1eh | h5vanz7 | 1,626,763,167 | 1,626,785,233 | 2 | 4 | If it seems like you sleep enough, but you are tired all the time, look into having your doctor do a sleep study. If you aren't getting enough *rem* sleep, it could cause this. | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | 0 | 22,066 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5uwg0w | h5vanz7 | 1,626,775,026 | 1,626,785,233 | 2 | 4 | Something thats helped me is instead of allowing each new idea to turn into its own unique story, trying to see what it means in relation to the main story I'm writing. Often idea's I have don't obviously fit into the story I'm working on but if I let it simmer long enough I find it will eventually fit into the story I'm working on. Coffee also helps | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | 0 | 10,207 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5vanz7 | h5uxcxw | 1,626,785,233 | 1,626,775,834 | 4 | 2 | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | It happens to me too. Writing tires me to no end. I usually go through with it until I can't think anymore. Then, the next day I try again and again. I keep trying. This kind of exhaustion comes from, as you've mentioned, the fact that the white space is intimidating. It really is. You can't work in an empty space. But at the end of the day, it just comes down to writing, specifically, to keep pushing your idea further and further. The exhaustion may go away; it also may stay forever. Nevertheless, we write because we like it and because we find it interesting. It may be tiresome but... do we want to do anything else? | 1 | 9,399 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5v155w | h5vanz7 | 1,626,778,957 | 1,626,785,233 | 2 | 4 | Tank a red bull put on some lo fi music and write anyway. Even if you write steaming hot garbage you will find it easier to fix it than to break new ground. | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | 0 | 6,276 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5v8x8u | h5vanz7 | 1,626,784,230 | 1,626,785,233 | 2 | 4 | This sounds like emotional stress. Being overwhelmed by idea doesn't help either. You've got the drive, now you need the discipline. Please, please, remember that your first draft will not be perfect. You can sit down and write some solid bullshit for an hour. It is still writing. It may not be the profound stuff you want it to be, but bullshit has its use. So write the bullshit, give it a day/week to ruminate, then go back and read it again and revise it. OR, as many authors suggest, write your entire first draft without going back and revising. Write the whole thing, and then wait a month before starting the revision process. There are different strategies for this, no two writers are the same. And dont forget what Shannon Hale said, "When writing a first draft, I have to remind myself constantly that I'm only shoveling sand into a box so later I can build castles." | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | 0 | 1,003 | 2 | ||
onsy0z | writing_train | 0.87 | I've been incredibly inspired lately with plenty of awesome new ideas, but when I go to sit down and write, I just immediately feel tired and foggy and I just quit. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I get a lot of sleep, I work an ideal amount, I have lots of downtime and time with friends, my mental health is great, so why can't I write? I have so many ideas and so many things I want to write about but the white space on the pages feel so intimidating. I just can't seem to get through any legitimate amount of storytelling. My longest and most established projects die at around 5000 words. Ugh. Help. | h5v9evp | h5vanz7 | 1,626,784,519 | 1,626,785,233 | 2 | 4 | I can’t speak for you, but I can say that when this happens to me it’s because I get perfectionistic and nitpicky with what I’ve written and second guess myself out of the entire situation. | You like to daydream, but you don’t like to write. It’s that simple. You’d love to see your brilliant ideas come to life, but don’t have the discipline to make it a reality. That may come off as harsh, but from what you described, it sounds accurate. | 0 | 714 | 2 | ||
38fayz | writing_train | 0.84 | I generally feel lethargic throughout the day, only becoming "inspired" at night but it's soon impossible to stay awake. Anyone else? Basically, when I wake up all I want to do is "unwind". Just relax, eat and watch TV. Nothing too serious. My brain doesn't feel like working. Eventually the day is over. Then I start feeling inspired. I want to think and create. I might write down a few ideas and get started on something, but by then I'm too tired to stay awake. It all just happens again the next day. Any idea why this happens and how I might more easily force myself to feel inspired earlier? | crunmxd | cruynjo | 1,433,368,908 | 1,433,389,022 | 1 | 2 | I get that sometimes. An extra strong coffee or four generally helps me stay awake long enough to get some work done. | As an example of this phenomenon, I spent the day staring at my half-finished manuscript and could not focus. I go the gym every morning, eat well, try to maintain a clean, productive environment, but things only started clicking a few minutes ago. And I know why. It's because the day is done. The pressure to be productive has just vanished, and no one in the house is moving around. I am completely guaranteed to have no interruptions from phonecalls or people barging in, and because I'm not expected to get any work done now the mental constipation from straining has just unclenched itself. You want to write, keep a pad and pen handy and just down a few sentences here and there between household chores; you know it will suck because you're not focused on it, and that's why the words will come. | 0 | 20,114 | 2 | ||
38fayz | writing_train | 0.84 | I generally feel lethargic throughout the day, only becoming "inspired" at night but it's soon impossible to stay awake. Anyone else? Basically, when I wake up all I want to do is "unwind". Just relax, eat and watch TV. Nothing too serious. My brain doesn't feel like working. Eventually the day is over. Then I start feeling inspired. I want to think and create. I might write down a few ideas and get started on something, but by then I'm too tired to stay awake. It all just happens again the next day. Any idea why this happens and how I might more easily force myself to feel inspired earlier? | cruynjo | crunu85 | 1,433,389,022 | 1,433,369,246 | 2 | 1 | As an example of this phenomenon, I spent the day staring at my half-finished manuscript and could not focus. I go the gym every morning, eat well, try to maintain a clean, productive environment, but things only started clicking a few minutes ago. And I know why. It's because the day is done. The pressure to be productive has just vanished, and no one in the house is moving around. I am completely guaranteed to have no interruptions from phonecalls or people barging in, and because I'm not expected to get any work done now the mental constipation from straining has just unclenched itself. You want to write, keep a pad and pen handy and just down a few sentences here and there between household chores; you know it will suck because you're not focused on it, and that's why the words will come. | Agreeing with what everyone else has said. Just having a drink you have to refill can help too, because then you've gotta get up to make/get it - you shouldn't sit down for too long anyway, so you get the blood pumping. I've found that music can work too (I suggest Eurovision songs; you'll find tons of different types, though they do have lyrics). Maybe even some chopped up fruit like apples or pears to keep your jaw moving - sucking sweets can work for that; it'll give you different tastes to keep giving your mind different feelings and ideas. | 1 | 19,776 | 2 | ||
38fayz | writing_train | 0.84 | I generally feel lethargic throughout the day, only becoming "inspired" at night but it's soon impossible to stay awake. Anyone else? Basically, when I wake up all I want to do is "unwind". Just relax, eat and watch TV. Nothing too serious. My brain doesn't feel like working. Eventually the day is over. Then I start feeling inspired. I want to think and create. I might write down a few ideas and get started on something, but by then I'm too tired to stay awake. It all just happens again the next day. Any idea why this happens and how I might more easily force myself to feel inspired earlier? | cruo2l5 | cruynjo | 1,433,369,638 | 1,433,389,022 | 1 | 2 | I'm like that as well and I find it helps to have written down what I want to work on before I go to sleep so I feel motivated in the morning. | As an example of this phenomenon, I spent the day staring at my half-finished manuscript and could not focus. I go the gym every morning, eat well, try to maintain a clean, productive environment, but things only started clicking a few minutes ago. And I know why. It's because the day is done. The pressure to be productive has just vanished, and no one in the house is moving around. I am completely guaranteed to have no interruptions from phonecalls or people barging in, and because I'm not expected to get any work done now the mental constipation from straining has just unclenched itself. You want to write, keep a pad and pen handy and just down a few sentences here and there between household chores; you know it will suck because you're not focused on it, and that's why the words will come. | 0 | 19,384 | 2 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32ptaw | i32qoni | 1,648,875,557 | 1,648,876,138 | 7 | 19 | Finish it for its own sake. You have a story and you’ll be the only one to tell that story in that way. It is your civic duty as a writer to see a good idea all the way through to completion. If you don’t want to, it must not be a good enough idea. | Unless it’s a very niche story, there are probably plenty of good places you can send it to, so if you want to, sure! | 0 | 581 | 2.714286 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32pu6d | i32qoni | 1,648,875,573 | 1,648,876,138 | 2 | 19 | Are you enjoying writing it? Do you think you’ll like the end product? | Unless it’s a very niche story, there are probably plenty of good places you can send it to, so if you want to, sure! | 0 | 565 | 9.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32pvj5 | i32qoni | 1,648,875,598 | 1,648,876,138 | 2 | 19 | Hell Yeah, you should finish it! It can still go in your portfolio. You can learn from it and maybe send it somewhere else in the future | Unless it’s a very niche story, there are probably plenty of good places you can send it to, so if you want to, sure! | 0 | 540 | 9.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32pu6d | i3336ra | 1,648,875,573 | 1,648,886,104 | 2 | 5 | Are you enjoying writing it? Do you think you’ll like the end product? | Yes. Even if it's never published, finishing stories is an excellent habit to develop. | 0 | 10,531 | 2.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32pvj5 | i3336ra | 1,648,875,598 | 1,648,886,104 | 2 | 5 | Hell Yeah, you should finish it! It can still go in your portfolio. You can learn from it and maybe send it somewhere else in the future | Yes. Even if it's never published, finishing stories is an excellent habit to develop. | 0 | 10,506 | 2.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i3336ra | i32ypm4 | 1,648,886,104 | 1,648,882,269 | 5 | 2 | Yes. Even if it's never published, finishing stories is an excellent habit to develop. | “On paper” is a perfectly good place to put it! You don’t need a reason to write. Just write. 😊 | 1 | 3,835 | 2.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i3336ra | i32ue3h | 1,648,886,104 | 1,648,878,810 | 5 | 1 | Yes. Even if it's never published, finishing stories is an excellent habit to develop. | Done? Next! | 1 | 7,294 | 5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32pu6d | i32szm6 | 1,648,875,573 | 1,648,877,769 | 2 | 5 | Are you enjoying writing it? Do you think you’ll like the end product? | There's lots of things you can do with it. Submit it to a contest. Submit it to a literary magazine. Submit it to an anthology. Submit it to a short story webzine. Submit it to your local newspaper. Post it on your blog. Read it on your YouTube. Write 9 more on the same theme and self publish them as a collection on Amazon. Post it on WattPad, Tapas, Royal Road, Scribble Hub, DeviatArt, SmashWords, DriveThruRPG, LuLu, QuoteV, Inkitt, or another such place. Heck, if nothing else, just finish it so you don't have the guilt of an unfinished project looming over your shoulder. | 0 | 2,196 | 2.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32pvj5 | i32szm6 | 1,648,875,598 | 1,648,877,769 | 2 | 5 | Hell Yeah, you should finish it! It can still go in your portfolio. You can learn from it and maybe send it somewhere else in the future | There's lots of things you can do with it. Submit it to a contest. Submit it to a literary magazine. Submit it to an anthology. Submit it to a short story webzine. Submit it to your local newspaper. Post it on your blog. Read it on your YouTube. Write 9 more on the same theme and self publish them as a collection on Amazon. Post it on WattPad, Tapas, Royal Road, Scribble Hub, DeviatArt, SmashWords, DriveThruRPG, LuLu, QuoteV, Inkitt, or another such place. Heck, if nothing else, just finish it so you don't have the guilt of an unfinished project looming over your shoulder. | 0 | 2,171 | 2.5 | ||
tuav59 | writing_train | 0.85 | I missed a deadline to submit a short story. Should I keep working on it anyway? As the title says, I don't really have anywhere to put it after it's finished now, but it feels like a waste to just leave it half finished like this. | i32ypm4 | i32ue3h | 1,648,882,269 | 1,648,878,810 | 2 | 1 | “On paper” is a perfectly good place to put it! You don’t need a reason to write. Just write. 😊 | Done? Next! | 1 | 3,459 | 2 | ||
zcjl3p | writing_train | 0.92 | Where do you all post your short stories? I enter competitions now and then but never really do anything with the pieces that don't get published. Would be nice to post them somewhere for feedback etc | iyxchwv | iyx5rty | 1,670,190,925 | 1,670,188,229 | 2 | 1 | I used to send them to my friends on MSN.. the times..oh the times. | If you turn any of them into an episodic I’d recommend submitting to Mythrill and seeing if they pick you up as an author. www.mythrillfiction.com | 1 | 2,696 | 2 | ||
ze6ooh | writing_train | 0.87 | How do you slow your story down? I’ve finished my first ever first draft of a story! I was struggling to write a full novel, so decided to ease myself in with an eerie short(ish) horror. I took a start-to-finish peek and as expected, the work didn’t read quite as amazingly as I thought I’d written it. However, I think the issue is less due to cringingly awful content (I appreciate that will come after some breathing space), but more that it felt incredibly rushed. Perhaps I mistook the age that I took to write the thing for pacing, but I was shocked at how quickly I’d jumped from one key scene to another. Problem is, I have no clue how to pad out a story without feeling like I’m adding dull and irrelevant sections or, worse still, stretching paragraphs out like an end of deadline dissertation. Has anyone had this issue before? If so, do you find it better to add scenes or elongate existing ones? Do you strip scenes out to make the story jump less frequently? Increasing the dialogue definitely feels like a good way to slow a story down without without over engineering it, but I’d love to get some tips, if any. | iz5eaut | iz62ebk | 1,670,344,993 | 1,670,354,211 | 3 | 4 | Spend some time on how the characters are taking in the scenes, what they are feeling and what they are seeing. Giving the characters a chance to breathe gives your readers a chance to breathe. | I’m printing out this entire comment section 😮💨 | 0 | 9,218 | 1.333333 | ||
ze6ooh | writing_train | 0.87 | How do you slow your story down? I’ve finished my first ever first draft of a story! I was struggling to write a full novel, so decided to ease myself in with an eerie short(ish) horror. I took a start-to-finish peek and as expected, the work didn’t read quite as amazingly as I thought I’d written it. However, I think the issue is less due to cringingly awful content (I appreciate that will come after some breathing space), but more that it felt incredibly rushed. Perhaps I mistook the age that I took to write the thing for pacing, but I was shocked at how quickly I’d jumped from one key scene to another. Problem is, I have no clue how to pad out a story without feeling like I’m adding dull and irrelevant sections or, worse still, stretching paragraphs out like an end of deadline dissertation. Has anyone had this issue before? If so, do you find it better to add scenes or elongate existing ones? Do you strip scenes out to make the story jump less frequently? Increasing the dialogue definitely feels like a good way to slow a story down without without over engineering it, but I’d love to get some tips, if any. | iz62ebk | iz5qtms | 1,670,354,211 | 1,670,349,767 | 4 | 3 | I’m printing out this entire comment section 😮💨 | > Perhaps I mistook the age that I took to write the thing for pacing, but I was shocked at how quickly I’d jumped from one key scene to another. So, you have two scenes that don't fit together. When opening the new scene, have you adequately described the setting? You might have had a vivid image at the time, but your readers aren't in your head. White room syndrome simply means you still have a canvas to paint with your worldbuilding. Or is it a matter of emotional whiplash, going from high to low or vice versa with no in-between? Unless it's intentional, you might need to show your characters coping with what happened before to get them to the after. That could take one or more new scenes, maybe some character development. Sometimes, the question is how did we get from point A to point B? It may help to extend the earlier scene with the characters taking steps to make the trip. | 1 | 4,444 | 1.333333 | ||
k8ol2n | writing_train | 0.81 | just submitted my short story to a magazine... and for some reason, i dont feel good. i feel like it's not good enough. do most writers feel this pervading sense of doubt after submitting their work, or is this a sign i didn't work on it enough? | gf06t91 | gezdhda | 1,607,389,074 | 1,607,373,693 | 7 | 6 | Nothing is ever really good enough. It's been 4 years since my first solo novel was published and there are still parts of it I'm unsatisfied by. Key thing to remember is even if it's rejected, that doesn't mean it sucks. Likely means it wasn't right for that issue. But hey, good on you for finishing and submitting! That's a lot farther than most people get. | I often doubt after I submit. Nothing specific, but a general sense of inadequacy. I haven't been published yet, but I've made it to "second rounds" before, so I know that it's not entirely my skill, but clearly need some improvement. You're not alone! Other people have self doubt as well. | 1 | 15,381 | 1.166667 | ||
k8ol2n | writing_train | 0.81 | just submitted my short story to a magazine... and for some reason, i dont feel good. i feel like it's not good enough. do most writers feel this pervading sense of doubt after submitting their work, or is this a sign i didn't work on it enough? | gf06t91 | gezyr2k | 1,607,389,074 | 1,607,384,720 | 7 | 5 | Nothing is ever really good enough. It's been 4 years since my first solo novel was published and there are still parts of it I'm unsatisfied by. Key thing to remember is even if it's rejected, that doesn't mean it sucks. Likely means it wasn't right for that issue. But hey, good on you for finishing and submitting! That's a lot farther than most people get. | You're not alone. I think anybody who has a passion for creative media (writing, graphics, painting, etc) don't think their final works are ever ready for exposure. Writers are especially guilty of this as we don't just tweak things once or twice, he go through dozens of drafts in an attempt to make everything perfect. Writing is a craft we are always improving. It's the reason why after a couple of the first drafts of our novel are completed we can say the best chapters are A, B and C. Then after a couple more edits, it's D, E and F that are great and the first three suck. And this is why I don't think we are ever 100% happy with the final product because we know if given more time it could be better. Sadly with that mindset, we'd never get anything done. | 1 | 4,354 | 1.4 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fpx0o1x | fpwy7ev | 1,588,973,440 | 1,588,972,141 | 8 | 6 | Not legit. Companies like that prey on new authors' desire for publication. You're better off querying elsewhere. | Scam. I once got $300 for an anthology submission, no fee needed. My first pub. | 1 | 1,299 | 1.333333 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fpyiyqz | fq13dr7 | 1,589,004,713 | 1,589,041,188 | 1 | 3 | /r/writing isn't the place for questions regarding literary magazines, unfortunately. You always get voices that don't participate in the traditional publishing world with self-formed opinions/principles that they express with a ton of conviction. In this case, the anthology is indeed sketchy, that much is correct. But submittable fees are 100% normal now. Just as you were expected to pay postage and include an SASE in snail mail submissions or it wouldn't be read. In this case, you, as a writer just have to determine your value/cost equation for each journal. A couple places to check out that have decent acceptance rates for lit mags would be Eunoia Review, Peacock Journal and Prometheus Dreaming (they are a bit high on the cost side for me, but publishing short form is a combination of investment/hobby, and almost every hobby has the occasional cost). Check out Duotrope's 100 most approachable journal list for more. | SUBMISSION FEE = CON JOB. Do not ever, EVER pay for someone to publish your work. | 0 | 36,475 | 3 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fpyw5at | fq13dr7 | 1,589,009,837 | 1,589,041,188 | 0 | 3 | Not only would it be a conflict of interest to charge authors for publication... but if authors do need to pay, then aren't you essentially granting publication rights to an anthology that clearly isn't going to sell any copies? If people read the thing then they could afford to pay authors. | SUBMISSION FEE = CON JOB. Do not ever, EVER pay for someone to publish your work. | 0 | 31,351 | 3,000 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fq0j5m0 | fq13dr7 | 1,589,032,666 | 1,589,041,188 | 0 | 3 | Unless it's a contest, if a publisher of any kind is charging you any sort of fee it is a scam. Run away! You NEVER pay publishers, publishers ALWAYS pay YOU. No exceptions!! | SUBMISSION FEE = CON JOB. Do not ever, EVER pay for someone to publish your work. | 0 | 8,522 | 3,000 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fq847tw | fpyiyqz | 1,589,158,167 | 1,589,004,713 | 2 | 1 | I would never pay a journal or magazine to submit, and especially not to some anthology. Getting published takes work and time. You have to accept that. It might take years, or even decades before you get an acceptance. | /r/writing isn't the place for questions regarding literary magazines, unfortunately. You always get voices that don't participate in the traditional publishing world with self-formed opinions/principles that they express with a ton of conviction. In this case, the anthology is indeed sketchy, that much is correct. But submittable fees are 100% normal now. Just as you were expected to pay postage and include an SASE in snail mail submissions or it wouldn't be read. In this case, you, as a writer just have to determine your value/cost equation for each journal. A couple places to check out that have decent acceptance rates for lit mags would be Eunoia Review, Peacock Journal and Prometheus Dreaming (they are a bit high on the cost side for me, but publishing short form is a combination of investment/hobby, and almost every hobby has the occasional cost). Check out Duotrope's 100 most approachable journal list for more. | 1 | 153,454 | 2 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fq847tw | fpyw5at | 1,589,158,167 | 1,589,009,837 | 2 | 0 | I would never pay a journal or magazine to submit, and especially not to some anthology. Getting published takes work and time. You have to accept that. It might take years, or even decades before you get an acceptance. | Not only would it be a conflict of interest to charge authors for publication... but if authors do need to pay, then aren't you essentially granting publication rights to an anthology that clearly isn't going to sell any copies? If people read the thing then they could afford to pay authors. | 1 | 148,330 | 2,000 | ||
gg1fkd | writing_train | 0.77 | Magazine rejected my story, but recommended I submit to their anthology. Legit? I'm fairly new to actually sending out my work, I've only been actively pursuing publication since the end of last year. No successes yet. One journal I sent a piece to rejected it, but the replied with a seemingly personalized response saying they think it would have a high chance of publication in their anthology and I should submit there, and they would recommend publishing it to that team. Catch is their submission fee for the anthology is $20, as oppose to the $3 regular fee. I'm skeptical of this is just a common tactic to get more submission fee revenue, but not sure since I'm relatively new to sending stuff out. And after almost a year of nothing but rejections, I'm kind of desperate for any good chance at publication. Anyone with more experience run into this before? | fq847tw | fq0j5m0 | 1,589,158,167 | 1,589,032,666 | 2 | 0 | I would never pay a journal or magazine to submit, and especially not to some anthology. Getting published takes work and time. You have to accept that. It might take years, or even decades before you get an acceptance. | Unless it's a contest, if a publisher of any kind is charging you any sort of fee it is a scam. Run away! You NEVER pay publishers, publishers ALWAYS pay YOU. No exceptions!! | 1 | 125,501 | 2,000 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh61nf | iuh4piz | 1,667,206,103 | 1,667,204,836 | 53 | 3 | In my experience, they would like your cover letter to mostly look like this: Dear Editor’s Name, Thank you for considering Piece Title for publication in Name of Publication. I am a writer based in Location, and <something about me>. I have previously been published in <name of publication/university/website>. Thanks, Name | I guess that’s the problem when it’s a buyer’s market like with writing: it enables people to get incredibly pedantic like this. Personally I’ve never heard of submitting a cover letter with a manuscript although I suppose submitting a brief summary could count as a “cover letter”. Maybe next time just include a brief blurb about yourself and a plot summary of your story. | 1 | 1,267 | 17.666667 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh4piz | iuh6i4j | 1,667,204,836 | 1,667,206,532 | 3 | 9 | I guess that’s the problem when it’s a buyer’s market like with writing: it enables people to get incredibly pedantic like this. Personally I’ve never heard of submitting a cover letter with a manuscript although I suppose submitting a brief summary could count as a “cover letter”. Maybe next time just include a brief blurb about yourself and a plot summary of your story. | This post and the comments might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/PubTips/comments/y6rh7y/pubq_short_story_submission_cover_letter/ | 0 | 1,696 | 3 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh4piz | iuhderz | 1,667,204,836 | 1,667,212,598 | 3 | 8 | I guess that’s the problem when it’s a buyer’s market like with writing: it enables people to get incredibly pedantic like this. Personally I’ve never heard of submitting a cover letter with a manuscript although I suppose submitting a brief summary could count as a “cover letter”. Maybe next time just include a brief blurb about yourself and a plot summary of your story. | Yes, you need to write a cover letter. Google "short story cover letter." They're typically brief: say what you're submitting (just title and word count, don't summarize or pitch your story), list your previous publication credits if any, mention any relevant background you have (your story is about deep-sea diving, and you're an expert deep-sea diver). | 0 | 7,762 | 2.666667 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh7v64 | iuhderz | 1,667,207,828 | 1,667,212,598 | 3 | 8 | Seems entirely arbitrary what one or another publisher (or rather, whoever happens to be the first person looking through submissions for the particular publisher that day) likes. I've known people to receive the exact opposite advice: Don't talk about anything irrelevant; publishers get 200 submissions a day. The moment it takes more than two sentences before getting to the point (what your book is about), your submission will likely be dropped. Except in customer supportese, which is more polite and elaborate. | Yes, you need to write a cover letter. Google "short story cover letter." They're typically brief: say what you're submitting (just title and word count, don't summarize or pitch your story), list your previous publication credits if any, mention any relevant background you have (your story is about deep-sea diving, and you're an expert deep-sea diver). | 0 | 4,770 | 2.666667 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh7k4q | iuhderz | 1,667,207,537 | 1,667,212,598 | 1 | 8 | I had checked some publishers, and they mention a few things. It's like USP and marketable facts kind of. You have to attach a summary, and also like why they should consider your story for publication and how it would be different from other stories. The target audience it is meant for and other such facts. | Yes, you need to write a cover letter. Google "short story cover letter." They're typically brief: say what you're submitting (just title and word count, don't summarize or pitch your story), list your previous publication credits if any, mention any relevant background you have (your story is about deep-sea diving, and you're an expert deep-sea diver). | 0 | 5,061 | 8 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh7k4q | iuhhqb6 | 1,667,207,537 | 1,667,215,733 | 1 | 3 | I had checked some publishers, and they mention a few things. It's like USP and marketable facts kind of. You have to attach a summary, and also like why they should consider your story for publication and how it would be different from other stories. The target audience it is meant for and other such facts. | How did you submit your manuscript? I submit a lot of stuff to literary magazines and virtually all of them require you to use a submission manager. Most of the time they use Submittable, but a few use their own in-house ones. In any case, every submission manager platform has a "cover letter" field. In the one or two cases where submission was via email, the journal's submission guidelines requested that writers include a bit of information about themselves. It's odd to me that you wouldn't have encountered some form of cover letter request. | 0 | 8,196 | 3 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh7v64 | iuh7k4q | 1,667,207,828 | 1,667,207,537 | 3 | 1 | Seems entirely arbitrary what one or another publisher (or rather, whoever happens to be the first person looking through submissions for the particular publisher that day) likes. I've known people to receive the exact opposite advice: Don't talk about anything irrelevant; publishers get 200 submissions a day. The moment it takes more than two sentences before getting to the point (what your book is about), your submission will likely be dropped. Except in customer supportese, which is more polite and elaborate. | I had checked some publishers, and they mention a few things. It's like USP and marketable facts kind of. You have to attach a summary, and also like why they should consider your story for publication and how it would be different from other stories. The target audience it is meant for and other such facts. | 1 | 291 | 3 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuhuoxl | iuh7k4q | 1,667,223,028 | 1,667,207,537 | 3 | 1 | Yes, you need a cover letter. Keep it short, but should contain publishing credits if you have them. | I had checked some publishers, and they mention a few things. It's like USP and marketable facts kind of. You have to attach a summary, and also like why they should consider your story for publication and how it would be different from other stories. The target audience it is meant for and other such facts. | 1 | 15,491 | 3 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuiwitk | iui1lkh | 1,667,238,654 | 1,667,226,128 | 3 | 2 | Yes, It's generally good practice to attach a cover letter. If it's not necessary, they'll have in their guidelines that it isn't. Keep it short and sweet and professional; editors are going through hundreds and hundreds of submissions, there's no need to make the cover letter a synopsis of your story or anything, it's just to let them know the relevant information. Mine is, roughly: >Dear editor, > >Please consider "Story Name" (genre, word count). > >My stories have been featured in "Relevant Publication", and further examples of my work can be found on my website. > >Thank you very much, > >Name (pronouns) > >website | Not sure about magazines but I know most publishing houses want a cover letter, synopsis, bio, and some of your work being a chapter or two. If it's shorter you can send the whole thing. | 1 | 12,526 | 1.5 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuh7k4q | iuiwitk | 1,667,207,537 | 1,667,238,654 | 1 | 3 | I had checked some publishers, and they mention a few things. It's like USP and marketable facts kind of. You have to attach a summary, and also like why they should consider your story for publication and how it would be different from other stories. The target audience it is meant for and other such facts. | Yes, It's generally good practice to attach a cover letter. If it's not necessary, they'll have in their guidelines that it isn't. Keep it short and sweet and professional; editors are going through hundreds and hundreds of submissions, there's no need to make the cover letter a synopsis of your story or anything, it's just to let them know the relevant information. Mine is, roughly: >Dear editor, > >Please consider "Story Name" (genre, word count). > >My stories have been featured in "Relevant Publication", and further examples of my work can be found on my website. > >Thank you very much, > >Name (pronouns) > >website | 0 | 31,117 | 3 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iuiwitk | iui7qez | 1,667,238,654 | 1,667,228,711 | 3 | 1 | Yes, It's generally good practice to attach a cover letter. If it's not necessary, they'll have in their guidelines that it isn't. Keep it short and sweet and professional; editors are going through hundreds and hundreds of submissions, there's no need to make the cover letter a synopsis of your story or anything, it's just to let them know the relevant information. Mine is, roughly: >Dear editor, > >Please consider "Story Name" (genre, word count). > >My stories have been featured in "Relevant Publication", and further examples of my work can be found on my website. > >Thank you very much, > >Name (pronouns) > >website | I've never tried to publish a short story so can't help you there, just wanted to say congrats on your first rejection! More to come, but keep pushing, you got this 😎 | 1 | 9,943 | 3 | ||
yi3spf | writing_train | 0.9 | Is it normal to give a cover letter when submitting short stories? I recently got my first rejection (yay, progress!) and while I get that they probably didn’t like it and that it wasn’t very good, what I was surprised by was that they took the time to say that it looks badly upon me to not have sent a cover letter to in my submission. I’m really confused, because not only did they never mention a cover letter on their website or FAQ, but I’ve never heard of this. Granted I’m new to short story publishing, but is this normal for literary magazines/sites to do? Why exactly do they need one in the first place? And also, what should I put in a cover letter like this? If anyone has any tips, advice, examples etc I would appreciate it! | iui1lkh | iuh7k4q | 1,667,226,128 | 1,667,207,537 | 2 | 1 | Not sure about magazines but I know most publishing houses want a cover letter, synopsis, bio, and some of your work being a chapter or two. If it's shorter you can send the whole thing. | I had checked some publishers, and they mention a few things. It's like USP and marketable facts kind of. You have to attach a summary, and also like why they should consider your story for publication and how it would be different from other stories. The target audience it is meant for and other such facts. | 1 | 18,591 | 2 | ||
ptn60t | writing_train | 0.8 | Should I focus on writing a novel or a collection of short stories? There’re these characters I’ve been writing stories about for years, but I’ve never written anything ‘official’ with them. By that I mean, they were very self-indulgent stories that I only shared with friends, without ever seriously attempting to make them publication-worthy. Recently I have wanted to take my writing more seriously and hope to get published within the next year. I have a coherent story idea that I've been trying to expand into a full-length novel (YA Fantasy, so I'm aiming for a 50,000 word count, at least). My problem is that all the advice I've been given suggests I'd be a better short story writer, and I'm inclined to agree. I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects; frankly, I don't have the focus before I start wanting to work on different ideas; a lot of my ideas are simple enough to work in shorter formats, and I mainly like to focus on character-driven slice-of-life plots that I could condense into episodic installments. The major conflict I have is that I want to stick with using this group of characters and their adventures consistently, while most short stories I know of are self-contained rather than parts of a continuing narrative. | hdxd9j9 | hdxpqw1 | 1,632,370,481 | 1,632,379,242 | 3 | 7 | Would the anthology be interconnected in any way beyond just your writing them? If not, aim for a novel. | I would say the novel. From a purely mercenary perspective, collections of stories are less marketable and publishers will take very few of them unless the author is at least somewhat well-known in the right circles, and even then odds are good they would have been asked to author a collection. Novels are easier to market and once you have one or two under your belt, then a collection of short stories will be easier to sell. I hate looking at it like that, but as someone currently in talks with a publisher regarding this sorta stuff, thought I'd pass along the advice I got. | 0 | 8,761 | 2.333333 | ||
ptn60t | writing_train | 0.8 | Should I focus on writing a novel or a collection of short stories? There’re these characters I’ve been writing stories about for years, but I’ve never written anything ‘official’ with them. By that I mean, they were very self-indulgent stories that I only shared with friends, without ever seriously attempting to make them publication-worthy. Recently I have wanted to take my writing more seriously and hope to get published within the next year. I have a coherent story idea that I've been trying to expand into a full-length novel (YA Fantasy, so I'm aiming for a 50,000 word count, at least). My problem is that all the advice I've been given suggests I'd be a better short story writer, and I'm inclined to agree. I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects; frankly, I don't have the focus before I start wanting to work on different ideas; a lot of my ideas are simple enough to work in shorter formats, and I mainly like to focus on character-driven slice-of-life plots that I could condense into episodic installments. The major conflict I have is that I want to stick with using this group of characters and their adventures consistently, while most short stories I know of are self-contained rather than parts of a continuing narrative. | hdxpqw1 | hdxditj | 1,632,379,242 | 1,632,370,638 | 7 | 2 | I would say the novel. From a purely mercenary perspective, collections of stories are less marketable and publishers will take very few of them unless the author is at least somewhat well-known in the right circles, and even then odds are good they would have been asked to author a collection. Novels are easier to market and once you have one or two under your belt, then a collection of short stories will be easier to sell. I hate looking at it like that, but as someone currently in talks with a publisher regarding this sorta stuff, thought I'd pass along the advice I got. | See: "Catch-22" It really is just a bunch of short stories involving a specific set of characters with a very thin overarching plot holding them together. | 1 | 8,604 | 3.5 | ||
ptn60t | writing_train | 0.8 | Should I focus on writing a novel or a collection of short stories? There’re these characters I’ve been writing stories about for years, but I’ve never written anything ‘official’ with them. By that I mean, they were very self-indulgent stories that I only shared with friends, without ever seriously attempting to make them publication-worthy. Recently I have wanted to take my writing more seriously and hope to get published within the next year. I have a coherent story idea that I've been trying to expand into a full-length novel (YA Fantasy, so I'm aiming for a 50,000 word count, at least). My problem is that all the advice I've been given suggests I'd be a better short story writer, and I'm inclined to agree. I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects; frankly, I don't have the focus before I start wanting to work on different ideas; a lot of my ideas are simple enough to work in shorter formats, and I mainly like to focus on character-driven slice-of-life plots that I could condense into episodic installments. The major conflict I have is that I want to stick with using this group of characters and their adventures consistently, while most short stories I know of are self-contained rather than parts of a continuing narrative. | hdz0ugn | hdxditj | 1,632,409,920 | 1,632,370,638 | 3 | 2 | Don't worry about any particular story's length, just write the story until it's finished. Then review it with a critical eye and revise, revise, revise. Then get someone else to review it, return feedback, and revise, revise, revise. The length of your story will adjust as you cut what doesn't need to be there and add what does. The length of the completed story may surprise you. | See: "Catch-22" It really is just a bunch of short stories involving a specific set of characters with a very thin overarching plot holding them together. | 1 | 39,282 | 1.5 | ||
ptn60t | writing_train | 0.8 | Should I focus on writing a novel or a collection of short stories? There’re these characters I’ve been writing stories about for years, but I’ve never written anything ‘official’ with them. By that I mean, they were very self-indulgent stories that I only shared with friends, without ever seriously attempting to make them publication-worthy. Recently I have wanted to take my writing more seriously and hope to get published within the next year. I have a coherent story idea that I've been trying to expand into a full-length novel (YA Fantasy, so I'm aiming for a 50,000 word count, at least). My problem is that all the advice I've been given suggests I'd be a better short story writer, and I'm inclined to agree. I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects; frankly, I don't have the focus before I start wanting to work on different ideas; a lot of my ideas are simple enough to work in shorter formats, and I mainly like to focus on character-driven slice-of-life plots that I could condense into episodic installments. The major conflict I have is that I want to stick with using this group of characters and their adventures consistently, while most short stories I know of are self-contained rather than parts of a continuing narrative. | hdz0ugn | hdy8lvx | 1,632,409,920 | 1,632,395,667 | 3 | 2 | Don't worry about any particular story's length, just write the story until it's finished. Then review it with a critical eye and revise, revise, revise. Then get someone else to review it, return feedback, and revise, revise, revise. The length of your story will adjust as you cut what doesn't need to be there and add what does. The length of the completed story may surprise you. | >I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects Writing a longer project is exactly like writing a lot of short stories in terms of time commitment...so you do | 1 | 14,253 | 1.5 | ||
ptn60t | writing_train | 0.8 | Should I focus on writing a novel or a collection of short stories? There’re these characters I’ve been writing stories about for years, but I’ve never written anything ‘official’ with them. By that I mean, they were very self-indulgent stories that I only shared with friends, without ever seriously attempting to make them publication-worthy. Recently I have wanted to take my writing more seriously and hope to get published within the next year. I have a coherent story idea that I've been trying to expand into a full-length novel (YA Fantasy, so I'm aiming for a 50,000 word count, at least). My problem is that all the advice I've been given suggests I'd be a better short story writer, and I'm inclined to agree. I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects; frankly, I don't have the focus before I start wanting to work on different ideas; a lot of my ideas are simple enough to work in shorter formats, and I mainly like to focus on character-driven slice-of-life plots that I could condense into episodic installments. The major conflict I have is that I want to stick with using this group of characters and their adventures consistently, while most short stories I know of are self-contained rather than parts of a continuing narrative. | hdxditj | hdzk6hd | 1,632,370,638 | 1,632,417,935 | 2 | 3 | See: "Catch-22" It really is just a bunch of short stories involving a specific set of characters with a very thin overarching plot holding them together. | What I would do is have plan the plot for a full length novel, but break it up into small sections and releasing them one at a time, so you can still have the full story but do shorter books. And when finish the last section, you could sell all the parts together in one volume | 0 | 47,297 | 1.5 | ||
ptn60t | writing_train | 0.8 | Should I focus on writing a novel or a collection of short stories? There’re these characters I’ve been writing stories about for years, but I’ve never written anything ‘official’ with them. By that I mean, they were very self-indulgent stories that I only shared with friends, without ever seriously attempting to make them publication-worthy. Recently I have wanted to take my writing more seriously and hope to get published within the next year. I have a coherent story idea that I've been trying to expand into a full-length novel (YA Fantasy, so I'm aiming for a 50,000 word count, at least). My problem is that all the advice I've been given suggests I'd be a better short story writer, and I'm inclined to agree. I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects; frankly, I don't have the focus before I start wanting to work on different ideas; a lot of my ideas are simple enough to work in shorter formats, and I mainly like to focus on character-driven slice-of-life plots that I could condense into episodic installments. The major conflict I have is that I want to stick with using this group of characters and their adventures consistently, while most short stories I know of are self-contained rather than parts of a continuing narrative. | hdzk6hd | hdy8lvx | 1,632,417,935 | 1,632,395,667 | 3 | 2 | What I would do is have plan the plot for a full length novel, but break it up into small sections and releasing them one at a time, so you can still have the full story but do shorter books. And when finish the last section, you could sell all the parts together in one volume | >I don't have as much free time to commit to writing longer projects Writing a longer project is exactly like writing a lot of short stories in terms of time commitment...so you do | 1 | 22,268 | 1.5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichcu3f | ichidme | 1,655,315,601 | 1,655,317,840 | 10 | 17 | Some non-native-English writers have elevated the English language precisely because they express themselves in English differently from the typical native speaker. That ‘non-nativeness’ is what makes their work stand out. My favorite poets— Pablo Neruda and Jose Garcia Villa— are non-natives and they’ve immortalized their works in English. There are multiple ways to immerse yourself thanks to the Internet, but I agree that nothing compares to face-to-face/ direct interaction as full immersion. I think engaging with people— native speaker or no— in discussions and especially informal conversations in English within forums like Reddit is a great start. But communicating in writing is also different from speaking— so try joining any writing groups on discord so you can listen to people speak directly and also interact with them. Other than that, just consume literature and media in English as much as you can. Watching movies and reading novels are one of the few ways to sponge in the language. For me, Netflix documentaries are great to have in the background— you can here different accents and when you can’t understand, you have the subtitles to rely on. Keep working on it and time will get you there. | Joseph Conrad was a Pole who is now recognized as one of the great English-language writes. so yes it's possible. being a foreigner might be an advantage, it could give your writing an unusual style that makes it stand out from the crowd. | 0 | 2,239 | 1.7 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichidme | ichbim6 | 1,655,317,840 | 1,655,315,062 | 17 | 4 | Joseph Conrad was a Pole who is now recognized as one of the great English-language writes. so yes it's possible. being a foreigner might be an advantage, it could give your writing an unusual style that makes it stand out from the crowd. | Even great writers have editors, and while you may not be in the position to hire a professional, maybe someone would still be interested in helping you with tone, etc | 1 | 2,778 | 4.25 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichcgzj | ichidme | 1,655,315,451 | 1,655,317,840 | 5 | 17 | Nabokov is an example of a non native English speaker turned English writer. | Joseph Conrad was a Pole who is now recognized as one of the great English-language writes. so yes it's possible. being a foreigner might be an advantage, it could give your writing an unusual style that makes it stand out from the crowd. | 0 | 2,389 | 3.4 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbfre | ichidme | 1,655,315,029 | 1,655,317,840 | 1 | 17 | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | Joseph Conrad was a Pole who is now recognized as one of the great English-language writes. so yes it's possible. being a foreigner might be an advantage, it could give your writing an unusual style that makes it stand out from the crowd. | 0 | 2,811 | 17 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbim6 | ichcu3f | 1,655,315,062 | 1,655,315,601 | 4 | 10 | Even great writers have editors, and while you may not be in the position to hire a professional, maybe someone would still be interested in helping you with tone, etc | Some non-native-English writers have elevated the English language precisely because they express themselves in English differently from the typical native speaker. That ‘non-nativeness’ is what makes their work stand out. My favorite poets— Pablo Neruda and Jose Garcia Villa— are non-natives and they’ve immortalized their works in English. There are multiple ways to immerse yourself thanks to the Internet, but I agree that nothing compares to face-to-face/ direct interaction as full immersion. I think engaging with people— native speaker or no— in discussions and especially informal conversations in English within forums like Reddit is a great start. But communicating in writing is also different from speaking— so try joining any writing groups on discord so you can listen to people speak directly and also interact with them. Other than that, just consume literature and media in English as much as you can. Watching movies and reading novels are one of the few ways to sponge in the language. For me, Netflix documentaries are great to have in the background— you can here different accents and when you can’t understand, you have the subtitles to rely on. Keep working on it and time will get you there. | 0 | 539 | 2.5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichcu3f | ichcgzj | 1,655,315,601 | 1,655,315,451 | 10 | 5 | Some non-native-English writers have elevated the English language precisely because they express themselves in English differently from the typical native speaker. That ‘non-nativeness’ is what makes their work stand out. My favorite poets— Pablo Neruda and Jose Garcia Villa— are non-natives and they’ve immortalized their works in English. There are multiple ways to immerse yourself thanks to the Internet, but I agree that nothing compares to face-to-face/ direct interaction as full immersion. I think engaging with people— native speaker or no— in discussions and especially informal conversations in English within forums like Reddit is a great start. But communicating in writing is also different from speaking— so try joining any writing groups on discord so you can listen to people speak directly and also interact with them. Other than that, just consume literature and media in English as much as you can. Watching movies and reading novels are one of the few ways to sponge in the language. For me, Netflix documentaries are great to have in the background— you can here different accents and when you can’t understand, you have the subtitles to rely on. Keep working on it and time will get you there. | Nabokov is an example of a non native English speaker turned English writer. | 1 | 150 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichcu3f | ichbfre | 1,655,315,601 | 1,655,315,029 | 10 | 1 | Some non-native-English writers have elevated the English language precisely because they express themselves in English differently from the typical native speaker. That ‘non-nativeness’ is what makes their work stand out. My favorite poets— Pablo Neruda and Jose Garcia Villa— are non-natives and they’ve immortalized their works in English. There are multiple ways to immerse yourself thanks to the Internet, but I agree that nothing compares to face-to-face/ direct interaction as full immersion. I think engaging with people— native speaker or no— in discussions and especially informal conversations in English within forums like Reddit is a great start. But communicating in writing is also different from speaking— so try joining any writing groups on discord so you can listen to people speak directly and also interact with them. Other than that, just consume literature and media in English as much as you can. Watching movies and reading novels are one of the few ways to sponge in the language. For me, Netflix documentaries are great to have in the background— you can here different accents and when you can’t understand, you have the subtitles to rely on. Keep working on it and time will get you there. | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | 1 | 572 | 10 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbim6 | ichu26s | 1,655,315,062 | 1,655,322,729 | 4 | 6 | Even great writers have editors, and while you may not be in the position to hire a professional, maybe someone would still be interested in helping you with tone, etc | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | 0 | 7,667 | 1.5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichu26s | ichcgzj | 1,655,322,729 | 1,655,315,451 | 6 | 5 | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | Nabokov is an example of a non native English speaker turned English writer. | 1 | 7,278 | 1.2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjk34 | ichu26s | 1,655,318,324 | 1,655,322,729 | 3 | 6 | I am non-native, publishing mostly in English. For the first two short stories I got a bilingual editor, now we edit the work of other writers in our country ourselves. And yes, it gets published. The internet made everything possible. Practice, get a proofreader who will let you check the mistakes you made, and you'll get there. | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | 0 | 4,405 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichnjip | ichu26s | 1,655,319,940 | 1,655,322,729 | 2 | 6 | Non-native writer here! Well, I wonder if many of us are openly advertising that we're non-natives, so there are probably more of us than you imagine. I think that, when people know you're non-native, they're more likely to nitpick, so I use an English-sounding pen name. I do get the odd review complaining about some unnatural sentences, but those didn't hurt my overall rating, so I guess most readers don't mind or don't notice. Just remember that you might have to do extra work to get better. Usually, I learn more with each new book. I make sure to run my books through Grammarly, Quillbot, and Scribophile. Currently, my biggest challenge are prepositions (all of my chapters have a few instances of mixed up to/for/about/by etc). This helps me too. | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | 0 | 2,789 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichu26s | ichnu2x | 1,655,322,729 | 1,655,320,062 | 6 | 2 | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | A few thoughts . . . \- Joseph Conrad, considered one of the greatest writers in the English language, was not a native speaker of English. In fact, if my memory serves me right, he didn't learn English until his late teens. Yet he is anthologized in many literature texts. Of course, not everyone has the innate talent of Conrad, but I'm just pointing out that it's possible. \- Read. Read. Read. Read the classics, Read from a variety of authors and genres. The more you read, the better you will be able to *hear* the cadence that you referred to in your post. \- Write. Daily. Even if you just set a timer for ten minutes and freewrite on any topic. Making it a daily habit will help you to improve over time. \- I don't know what your usual writing looks like or how long it took you to compose your post, but as another poster indicated, you write better than many native speakers of English. (I teach college-level writing, so I'm not just guessing about this). | 1 | 2,667 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbfre | ichu26s | 1,655,315,029 | 1,655,322,729 | 1 | 6 | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | 0 | 7,700 | 6 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjg2n | ichu26s | 1,655,318,279 | 1,655,322,729 | 1 | 6 | Watch shows or movies with English audio, better if they’re set in a similar locale to what you’re writing. I am a native English speaker, but I write a lot of historical based work set in other countries. Watching shows or movies that feature a specific dialect has been the best way for me to learn the cadence and common mannerisms of that dialect. | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | 0 | 4,450 | 6 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjt8x | ichu26s | 1,655,318,426 | 1,655,322,729 | 1 | 6 | I'm gonna offer you a different opinion on this. Around a year ago, I was in the same position as you. I felt completely weirded out by the idea of writing in my native tongue, especially because I don't live in my home country anymore (but also not in an English-speaking one). Then I researched non-native English writers, and it turns out there are many who made it. But there's a caveat: They were all living in an English-speaking country at the time they made it. Because this wasn't an option for me, I thought long and hard about what I wanted to do. I asked Reddit the same question, and got many replies, most of them something along the lines of "your English is great, just go at it", but still something didn't sit right with me. The fact that there was a missing historical precedent of famous non-native non-living-in-English-speaking-country authors, just kept gnawing at me. Of course I could be the first, and up to a point you have to believe, as a writer, that you are special. But to be the first in history? That's lowering my chances astronomically, and I want the best odds I can get. Then I got one comment saying that maybe, just maybe if I immerse myself back into my own language, I can find my love for it again. So I decided to write one book in Dutch. I am finishing the first draft this week, and it was an absolute joy to write. It was even a joy to read random Dutch books. I am very happy I chose this path. I'm just saying all this to make you consider that maybe, just maybe, you have a love for your own language buried deep within you, waiting for you to rediscover it. | If you hadn't said you weren't a native speaker, I wouldn't have guessed it. If you want to do a more authentic approach, do some research on dialects because even here in the US the east and west coast are very, very different. IDK about Britain or Australia, but given the latter's size I'm sure they have the same thing. But I personally come across several fanfic writers who put at the end of their story, "sorry English isn't my native language" and I'm like, honey, you wrote this better than my high school graduating class could've. And they're native speakers. | 0 | 4,303 | 6 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichcgzj | ichbim6 | 1,655,315,451 | 1,655,315,062 | 5 | 4 | Nabokov is an example of a non native English speaker turned English writer. | Even great writers have editors, and while you may not be in the position to hire a professional, maybe someone would still be interested in helping you with tone, etc | 1 | 389 | 1.25 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbfre | ichbim6 | 1,655,315,029 | 1,655,315,062 | 1 | 4 | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | Even great writers have editors, and while you may not be in the position to hire a professional, maybe someone would still be interested in helping you with tone, etc | 0 | 33 | 4 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbfre | ichcgzj | 1,655,315,029 | 1,655,315,451 | 1 | 5 | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | Nabokov is an example of a non native English speaker turned English writer. | 0 | 422 | 5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | icib5mj | ichnjip | 1,655,330,022 | 1,655,319,940 | 3 | 2 | You clearly write to a native level, so I wouldn't overthink it. | Non-native writer here! Well, I wonder if many of us are openly advertising that we're non-natives, so there are probably more of us than you imagine. I think that, when people know you're non-native, they're more likely to nitpick, so I use an English-sounding pen name. I do get the odd review complaining about some unnatural sentences, but those didn't hurt my overall rating, so I guess most readers don't mind or don't notice. Just remember that you might have to do extra work to get better. Usually, I learn more with each new book. I make sure to run my books through Grammarly, Quillbot, and Scribophile. Currently, my biggest challenge are prepositions (all of my chapters have a few instances of mixed up to/for/about/by etc). This helps me too. | 1 | 10,082 | 1.5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | icib5mj | ichnu2x | 1,655,330,022 | 1,655,320,062 | 3 | 2 | You clearly write to a native level, so I wouldn't overthink it. | A few thoughts . . . \- Joseph Conrad, considered one of the greatest writers in the English language, was not a native speaker of English. In fact, if my memory serves me right, he didn't learn English until his late teens. Yet he is anthologized in many literature texts. Of course, not everyone has the innate talent of Conrad, but I'm just pointing out that it's possible. \- Read. Read. Read. Read the classics, Read from a variety of authors and genres. The more you read, the better you will be able to *hear* the cadence that you referred to in your post. \- Write. Daily. Even if you just set a timer for ten minutes and freewrite on any topic. Making it a daily habit will help you to improve over time. \- I don't know what your usual writing looks like or how long it took you to compose your post, but as another poster indicated, you write better than many native speakers of English. (I teach college-level writing, so I'm not just guessing about this). | 1 | 9,960 | 1.5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | icib5mj | ici7j8g | 1,655,330,022 | 1,655,328,444 | 3 | 2 | You clearly write to a native level, so I wouldn't overthink it. | Jocko had a guy from Poland on his podcast. The guy became a SEAL but he also wrote in English. He said that he taught himself English by writing, that his first book was no good, and that he got a lot better over time. (podcast link) | 1 | 1,578 | 1.5 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbfre | icib5mj | 1,655,315,029 | 1,655,330,022 | 1 | 3 | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | You clearly write to a native level, so I wouldn't overthink it. | 0 | 14,993 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjg2n | icib5mj | 1,655,318,279 | 1,655,330,022 | 1 | 3 | Watch shows or movies with English audio, better if they’re set in a similar locale to what you’re writing. I am a native English speaker, but I write a lot of historical based work set in other countries. Watching shows or movies that feature a specific dialect has been the best way for me to learn the cadence and common mannerisms of that dialect. | You clearly write to a native level, so I wouldn't overthink it. | 0 | 11,743 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | icib5mj | ichjt8x | 1,655,330,022 | 1,655,318,426 | 3 | 1 | You clearly write to a native level, so I wouldn't overthink it. | I'm gonna offer you a different opinion on this. Around a year ago, I was in the same position as you. I felt completely weirded out by the idea of writing in my native tongue, especially because I don't live in my home country anymore (but also not in an English-speaking one). Then I researched non-native English writers, and it turns out there are many who made it. But there's a caveat: They were all living in an English-speaking country at the time they made it. Because this wasn't an option for me, I thought long and hard about what I wanted to do. I asked Reddit the same question, and got many replies, most of them something along the lines of "your English is great, just go at it", but still something didn't sit right with me. The fact that there was a missing historical precedent of famous non-native non-living-in-English-speaking-country authors, just kept gnawing at me. Of course I could be the first, and up to a point you have to believe, as a writer, that you are special. But to be the first in history? That's lowering my chances astronomically, and I want the best odds I can get. Then I got one comment saying that maybe, just maybe if I immerse myself back into my own language, I can find my love for it again. So I decided to write one book in Dutch. I am finishing the first draft this week, and it was an absolute joy to write. It was even a joy to read random Dutch books. I am very happy I chose this path. I'm just saying all this to make you consider that maybe, just maybe, you have a love for your own language buried deep within you, waiting for you to rediscover it. | 1 | 11,596 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjk34 | ichbfre | 1,655,318,324 | 1,655,315,029 | 3 | 1 | I am non-native, publishing mostly in English. For the first two short stories I got a bilingual editor, now we edit the work of other writers in our country ourselves. And yes, it gets published. The internet made everything possible. Practice, get a proofreader who will let you check the mistakes you made, and you'll get there. | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | 1 | 3,295 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjk34 | ichjg2n | 1,655,318,324 | 1,655,318,279 | 3 | 1 | I am non-native, publishing mostly in English. For the first two short stories I got a bilingual editor, now we edit the work of other writers in our country ourselves. And yes, it gets published. The internet made everything possible. Practice, get a proofreader who will let you check the mistakes you made, and you'll get there. | Watch shows or movies with English audio, better if they’re set in a similar locale to what you’re writing. I am a native English speaker, but I write a lot of historical based work set in other countries. Watching shows or movies that feature a specific dialect has been the best way for me to learn the cadence and common mannerisms of that dialect. | 1 | 45 | 3 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichnjip | ichbfre | 1,655,319,940 | 1,655,315,029 | 2 | 1 | Non-native writer here! Well, I wonder if many of us are openly advertising that we're non-natives, so there are probably more of us than you imagine. I think that, when people know you're non-native, they're more likely to nitpick, so I use an English-sounding pen name. I do get the odd review complaining about some unnatural sentences, but those didn't hurt my overall rating, so I guess most readers don't mind or don't notice. Just remember that you might have to do extra work to get better. Usually, I learn more with each new book. I make sure to run my books through Grammarly, Quillbot, and Scribophile. Currently, my biggest challenge are prepositions (all of my chapters have a few instances of mixed up to/for/about/by etc). This helps me too. | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | 1 | 4,911 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichnjip | ichjg2n | 1,655,319,940 | 1,655,318,279 | 2 | 1 | Non-native writer here! Well, I wonder if many of us are openly advertising that we're non-natives, so there are probably more of us than you imagine. I think that, when people know you're non-native, they're more likely to nitpick, so I use an English-sounding pen name. I do get the odd review complaining about some unnatural sentences, but those didn't hurt my overall rating, so I guess most readers don't mind or don't notice. Just remember that you might have to do extra work to get better. Usually, I learn more with each new book. I make sure to run my books through Grammarly, Quillbot, and Scribophile. Currently, my biggest challenge are prepositions (all of my chapters have a few instances of mixed up to/for/about/by etc). This helps me too. | Watch shows or movies with English audio, better if they’re set in a similar locale to what you’re writing. I am a native English speaker, but I write a lot of historical based work set in other countries. Watching shows or movies that feature a specific dialect has been the best way for me to learn the cadence and common mannerisms of that dialect. | 1 | 1,661 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichnjip | ichjt8x | 1,655,319,940 | 1,655,318,426 | 2 | 1 | Non-native writer here! Well, I wonder if many of us are openly advertising that we're non-natives, so there are probably more of us than you imagine. I think that, when people know you're non-native, they're more likely to nitpick, so I use an English-sounding pen name. I do get the odd review complaining about some unnatural sentences, but those didn't hurt my overall rating, so I guess most readers don't mind or don't notice. Just remember that you might have to do extra work to get better. Usually, I learn more with each new book. I make sure to run my books through Grammarly, Quillbot, and Scribophile. Currently, my biggest challenge are prepositions (all of my chapters have a few instances of mixed up to/for/about/by etc). This helps me too. | I'm gonna offer you a different opinion on this. Around a year ago, I was in the same position as you. I felt completely weirded out by the idea of writing in my native tongue, especially because I don't live in my home country anymore (but also not in an English-speaking one). Then I researched non-native English writers, and it turns out there are many who made it. But there's a caveat: They were all living in an English-speaking country at the time they made it. Because this wasn't an option for me, I thought long and hard about what I wanted to do. I asked Reddit the same question, and got many replies, most of them something along the lines of "your English is great, just go at it", but still something didn't sit right with me. The fact that there was a missing historical precedent of famous non-native non-living-in-English-speaking-country authors, just kept gnawing at me. Of course I could be the first, and up to a point you have to believe, as a writer, that you are special. But to be the first in history? That's lowering my chances astronomically, and I want the best odds I can get. Then I got one comment saying that maybe, just maybe if I immerse myself back into my own language, I can find my love for it again. So I decided to write one book in Dutch. I am finishing the first draft this week, and it was an absolute joy to write. It was even a joy to read random Dutch books. I am very happy I chose this path. I'm just saying all this to make you consider that maybe, just maybe, you have a love for your own language buried deep within you, waiting for you to rediscover it. | 1 | 1,514 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichbfre | ichnu2x | 1,655,315,029 | 1,655,320,062 | 1 | 2 | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | A few thoughts . . . \- Joseph Conrad, considered one of the greatest writers in the English language, was not a native speaker of English. In fact, if my memory serves me right, he didn't learn English until his late teens. Yet he is anthologized in many literature texts. Of course, not everyone has the innate talent of Conrad, but I'm just pointing out that it's possible. \- Read. Read. Read. Read the classics, Read from a variety of authors and genres. The more you read, the better you will be able to *hear* the cadence that you referred to in your post. \- Write. Daily. Even if you just set a timer for ten minutes and freewrite on any topic. Making it a daily habit will help you to improve over time. \- I don't know what your usual writing looks like or how long it took you to compose your post, but as another poster indicated, you write better than many native speakers of English. (I teach college-level writing, so I'm not just guessing about this). | 0 | 5,033 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichnu2x | ichjg2n | 1,655,320,062 | 1,655,318,279 | 2 | 1 | A few thoughts . . . \- Joseph Conrad, considered one of the greatest writers in the English language, was not a native speaker of English. In fact, if my memory serves me right, he didn't learn English until his late teens. Yet he is anthologized in many literature texts. Of course, not everyone has the innate talent of Conrad, but I'm just pointing out that it's possible. \- Read. Read. Read. Read the classics, Read from a variety of authors and genres. The more you read, the better you will be able to *hear* the cadence that you referred to in your post. \- Write. Daily. Even if you just set a timer for ten minutes and freewrite on any topic. Making it a daily habit will help you to improve over time. \- I don't know what your usual writing looks like or how long it took you to compose your post, but as another poster indicated, you write better than many native speakers of English. (I teach college-level writing, so I'm not just guessing about this). | Watch shows or movies with English audio, better if they’re set in a similar locale to what you’re writing. I am a native English speaker, but I write a lot of historical based work set in other countries. Watching shows or movies that feature a specific dialect has been the best way for me to learn the cadence and common mannerisms of that dialect. | 1 | 1,783 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjt8x | ichnu2x | 1,655,318,426 | 1,655,320,062 | 1 | 2 | I'm gonna offer you a different opinion on this. Around a year ago, I was in the same position as you. I felt completely weirded out by the idea of writing in my native tongue, especially because I don't live in my home country anymore (but also not in an English-speaking one). Then I researched non-native English writers, and it turns out there are many who made it. But there's a caveat: They were all living in an English-speaking country at the time they made it. Because this wasn't an option for me, I thought long and hard about what I wanted to do. I asked Reddit the same question, and got many replies, most of them something along the lines of "your English is great, just go at it", but still something didn't sit right with me. The fact that there was a missing historical precedent of famous non-native non-living-in-English-speaking-country authors, just kept gnawing at me. Of course I could be the first, and up to a point you have to believe, as a writer, that you are special. But to be the first in history? That's lowering my chances astronomically, and I want the best odds I can get. Then I got one comment saying that maybe, just maybe if I immerse myself back into my own language, I can find my love for it again. So I decided to write one book in Dutch. I am finishing the first draft this week, and it was an absolute joy to write. It was even a joy to read random Dutch books. I am very happy I chose this path. I'm just saying all this to make you consider that maybe, just maybe, you have a love for your own language buried deep within you, waiting for you to rediscover it. | A few thoughts . . . \- Joseph Conrad, considered one of the greatest writers in the English language, was not a native speaker of English. In fact, if my memory serves me right, he didn't learn English until his late teens. Yet he is anthologized in many literature texts. Of course, not everyone has the innate talent of Conrad, but I'm just pointing out that it's possible. \- Read. Read. Read. Read the classics, Read from a variety of authors and genres. The more you read, the better you will be able to *hear* the cadence that you referred to in your post. \- Write. Daily. Even if you just set a timer for ten minutes and freewrite on any topic. Making it a daily habit will help you to improve over time. \- I don't know what your usual writing looks like or how long it took you to compose your post, but as another poster indicated, you write better than many native speakers of English. (I teach college-level writing, so I'm not just guessing about this). | 0 | 1,636 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ici7j8g | ichbfre | 1,655,328,444 | 1,655,315,029 | 2 | 1 | Jocko had a guy from Poland on his podcast. The guy became a SEAL but he also wrote in English. He said that he taught himself English by writing, that his first book was no good, and that he got a lot better over time. (podcast link) | Find or hire someone to proof your material. As always: read, read, read. The Bible is doing pretty well!! (non-native writer!) | 1 | 13,415 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ichjg2n | ici7j8g | 1,655,318,279 | 1,655,328,444 | 1 | 2 | Watch shows or movies with English audio, better if they’re set in a similar locale to what you’re writing. I am a native English speaker, but I write a lot of historical based work set in other countries. Watching shows or movies that feature a specific dialect has been the best way for me to learn the cadence and common mannerisms of that dialect. | Jocko had a guy from Poland on his podcast. The guy became a SEAL but he also wrote in English. He said that he taught himself English by writing, that his first book was no good, and that he got a lot better over time. (podcast link) | 0 | 10,165 | 2 | ||
vczsns | writing_train | 0.86 | Is it possible for a non-native writer to make it? I'm not a native English speaker, yet I only feel comfortable writing in English. I have a strong passion for writing, but whenever I try to write something in my native tongue it just doesn't feel right. I've been a freelance content writer for about 6 months now, but I don't feel like my English writing skills are yet up to par with native writers. Will they ever be? I'm not in a position to move to an English-speaking country and do a full-immersion language experience. I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage. I would love to get to know more about the natural cadence and "feel" of English, be it American or British. Any tools? What are some YouTube channels, audiobooks, podcasts, books, platforms, communities, or anything else you'd recommend? Also, just out of curiosity, do you know about any published non-native authors personally? Are you one? If so, how did they or you make it? What did the process look like? What did you write? Thank you for reading this post, I'll be more than happy to read and respond to all responses. | ici7j8g | ichjt8x | 1,655,328,444 | 1,655,318,426 | 2 | 1 | Jocko had a guy from Poland on his podcast. The guy became a SEAL but he also wrote in English. He said that he taught himself English by writing, that his first book was no good, and that he got a lot better over time. (podcast link) | I'm gonna offer you a different opinion on this. Around a year ago, I was in the same position as you. I felt completely weirded out by the idea of writing in my native tongue, especially because I don't live in my home country anymore (but also not in an English-speaking one). Then I researched non-native English writers, and it turns out there are many who made it. But there's a caveat: They were all living in an English-speaking country at the time they made it. Because this wasn't an option for me, I thought long and hard about what I wanted to do. I asked Reddit the same question, and got many replies, most of them something along the lines of "your English is great, just go at it", but still something didn't sit right with me. The fact that there was a missing historical precedent of famous non-native non-living-in-English-speaking-country authors, just kept gnawing at me. Of course I could be the first, and up to a point you have to believe, as a writer, that you are special. But to be the first in history? That's lowering my chances astronomically, and I want the best odds I can get. Then I got one comment saying that maybe, just maybe if I immerse myself back into my own language, I can find my love for it again. So I decided to write one book in Dutch. I am finishing the first draft this week, and it was an absolute joy to write. It was even a joy to read random Dutch books. I am very happy I chose this path. I'm just saying all this to make you consider that maybe, just maybe, you have a love for your own language buried deep within you, waiting for you to rediscover it. | 1 | 10,018 | 2 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixwyob8 | ixwz3hj | 1,669,510,638 | 1,669,510,845 | 32 | 33 | Usually when the previous chapter ends, that's when I find it best to make a new chapter. When it ends is entirely up to you. I have 23 chapters where the first 5 take place over 24 days, the next 18 all take place over 2 days. The shortest chapter is \~900 words long, the longest a bit over 3.5k words. Some chapters are composed of one scene, some two or more. The point of a chapter is to answer: 1. Who - not just the names of the characters, but who they are as people. Not just physical descriptions, but their thoughts and feelings. 2. What - is going on in the chapter? Pretty simple, strong chance you aren't providing enough detail. 3. Where - are the characters? What's the setting? Yeah, they could be in a city at night, but what's the city like? Is it a ruins, a port city, a capital city, a small hamlet? What time of year is it? How does that affect how the characters move in the city? What are the people around them like? Is the city noisy, suspiciously quiet? 4. Why - are the characters here? What brought them to the place, what goals do they need to accomplish here? How does that help them move on the overarching plot? You're not going to answer every question in every chapter. Neither are you going to answer each question to the same level of detail. Pick out which are the most important topics for a given chapter and answer them. When you feel you've satisfactorily answered each question as the chapter permits, that's the end. | Without having to read a whole bunch of hours on it, it's basically if you have a change of scenery, location or situation. It's generated by that long pause. But more so than a paragraph. As a writer, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. Goofy example: " Did that sock puppet just grow legs and run out the room? With a knife?" That's not a paragraph pause. Shit gets real when the sock puppet shows back up to start killing people. That's not a paragraph pause. That's a brand new chapter. | 0 | 207 | 1.03125 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixwxq8s | ixwz3hj | 1,669,510,173 | 1,669,510,845 | 1 | 33 | Check out this advice from Jericho Writers on word counts and chapter length; it has some other interesting advice if you scroll down the page a bit. | Without having to read a whole bunch of hours on it, it's basically if you have a change of scenery, location or situation. It's generated by that long pause. But more so than a paragraph. As a writer, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. Goofy example: " Did that sock puppet just grow legs and run out the room? With a knife?" That's not a paragraph pause. Shit gets real when the sock puppet shows back up to start killing people. That's not a paragraph pause. That's a brand new chapter. | 0 | 672 | 33 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixwyob8 | ixwxq8s | 1,669,510,638 | 1,669,510,173 | 32 | 1 | Usually when the previous chapter ends, that's when I find it best to make a new chapter. When it ends is entirely up to you. I have 23 chapters where the first 5 take place over 24 days, the next 18 all take place over 2 days. The shortest chapter is \~900 words long, the longest a bit over 3.5k words. Some chapters are composed of one scene, some two or more. The point of a chapter is to answer: 1. Who - not just the names of the characters, but who they are as people. Not just physical descriptions, but their thoughts and feelings. 2. What - is going on in the chapter? Pretty simple, strong chance you aren't providing enough detail. 3. Where - are the characters? What's the setting? Yeah, they could be in a city at night, but what's the city like? Is it a ruins, a port city, a capital city, a small hamlet? What time of year is it? How does that affect how the characters move in the city? What are the people around them like? Is the city noisy, suspiciously quiet? 4. Why - are the characters here? What brought them to the place, what goals do they need to accomplish here? How does that help them move on the overarching plot? You're not going to answer every question in every chapter. Neither are you going to answer each question to the same level of detail. Pick out which are the most important topics for a given chapter and answer them. When you feel you've satisfactorily answered each question as the chapter permits, that's the end. | Check out this advice from Jericho Writers on word counts and chapter length; it has some other interesting advice if you scroll down the page a bit. | 1 | 465 | 32 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixx8n00 | ixwxq8s | 1,669,515,553 | 1,669,510,173 | 9 | 1 | A chapter should really have a mini arc of its own, within the arc of the plot as a whole. So if you've brought up an idea at the beginning of the chapter, then I would end that chapter when that idea has either resolved or moved on to a new stage (an answer led to more questions, or the protagonist's action failed, etc etc. The possibilities are endless). Ultimately, though, determining chapter lengths and arcs is something that can easily be done in a second or later draft. I personally wouldn't worry about chapter length in a first draft. If a place feels like a good one for a chapter break, do it, but otherwise don't fret about it while you're writing your first draft. | Check out this advice from Jericho Writers on word counts and chapter length; it has some other interesting advice if you scroll down the page a bit. | 1 | 5,380 | 9 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixx8fgn | ixwxq8s | 1,669,515,448 | 1,669,510,173 | 9 | 1 | Not every story fits the same narrative flow, but what I've been doing is making it "episodic". Once the main focus of the chapter has started and ended, I'd put in a new chapter. Although sometimes it'd be a two-parter, where one chapter is the setup and the second chapter is turnabout where the dynamic is changed enough to be different. | Check out this advice from Jericho Writers on word counts and chapter length; it has some other interesting advice if you scroll down the page a bit. | 1 | 5,275 | 9 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixy6wsj | ixxigkl | 1,669,536,963 | 1,669,520,519 | 3 | 2 | It really depends more on story beats than anything else. Whenever something happens, or is about to happen, that significantly changes the status quo, that's when you end the chapter. | Not meaning to sound snarky, but I would recommend reading some books with chapters in them and paying attention how (and where) published authors start and end their chapters. | 1 | 16,444 | 1.5 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixy6wsj | ixwxq8s | 1,669,536,963 | 1,669,510,173 | 3 | 1 | It really depends more on story beats than anything else. Whenever something happens, or is about to happen, that significantly changes the status quo, that's when you end the chapter. | Check out this advice from Jericho Writers on word counts and chapter length; it has some other interesting advice if you scroll down the page a bit. | 1 | 26,790 | 3 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixxg6iw | ixy6wsj | 1,669,519,350 | 1,669,536,963 | 1 | 3 | On average, a chapter can have from 1000 to as high as 8000 words depending on your genre. Granted, it's perfectly acceptable to go outside these boundaries and even go under them, but keep this word count in mind when writing your chapters. What is your genre? Fantasy is about 5000-8000 Science fiction and romance is about 3000 Mystery thrillers are about 1K YA is about 4500 Again don't let those numbers define your story, it's more of a guideline than a rule. | It really depends more on story beats than anything else. Whenever something happens, or is about to happen, that significantly changes the status quo, that's when you end the chapter. | 0 | 17,613 | 3 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixy6wsj | ixxhiwy | 1,669,536,963 | 1,669,520,046 | 3 | 1 | It really depends more on story beats than anything else. Whenever something happens, or is about to happen, that significantly changes the status quo, that's when you end the chapter. | The average chapter is 14 pages, if that helps. That being said, chapter size is not very important in terms of publishability. | 1 | 16,917 | 3 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixy6wsj | ixxjqro | 1,669,536,963 | 1,669,521,182 | 3 | 1 | It really depends more on story beats than anything else. Whenever something happens, or is about to happen, that significantly changes the status quo, that's when you end the chapter. | You don't always want to end a chapter when they end in bed. Sometimes that works, but ending in action might be more interesting. It all depends on what story you are telling. | 1 | 15,781 | 3 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixxigkl | iy0hrnu | 1,669,520,519 | 1,669,581,658 | 2 | 3 | Not meaning to sound snarky, but I would recommend reading some books with chapters in them and paying attention how (and where) published authors start and end their chapters. | There are no set rules, but I think a chapter ought to have a natural flow with it's own beginning, middle, and end. Some like to give a special moment of the book several chapters, with cliffhanger endings to keep readers engaged. My method is to always have a break when I think to myself 'okay... THIS is a great place to stop.' | 0 | 61,139 | 1.5 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixz2djx | iy0hrnu | 1,669,560,288 | 1,669,581,658 | 2 | 3 | This was one of the biggest questions I had when I started editing my writing and I wish I had known sooner. I heard someone at a writing conference explain that each chapter should begin with a new scene. I couldn’t agree more with all of the comments related to this. This caused the chapters to be different lengths and this sort of bothered me at first but as long as it has a natural flow that’s all that matters. | There are no set rules, but I think a chapter ought to have a natural flow with it's own beginning, middle, and end. Some like to give a special moment of the book several chapters, with cliffhanger endings to keep readers engaged. My method is to always have a break when I think to myself 'okay... THIS is a great place to stop.' | 0 | 21,370 | 1.5 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | iy0hrnu | ixzltz7 | 1,669,581,658 | 1,669,568,960 | 3 | 2 | There are no set rules, but I think a chapter ought to have a natural flow with it's own beginning, middle, and end. Some like to give a special moment of the book several chapters, with cliffhanger endings to keep readers engaged. My method is to always have a break when I think to myself 'okay... THIS is a great place to stop.' | I write my chapters as if they’re mini contained stories that all connect to each other, mostly because I’m a pantser who doesn’t outline scenes at all. But in general I keep them to a scene, one scene for one chapter. This could mean that sometimes the scene is only a few hundred words long, or a few thousand, it really depends on what you’re going for. I’ve read books where chapters are just a page long, but they serve the larger narrative by providing context or following parallel narratives, etc. many things you could do. Basically think about what the chapter serves in the narrative, and if it’s better to split certain sequences into chapters or subsections within a chapter. Think about what your story needs. And remember, if it’s a first draft, there will be a lot of editing that will help to further propel your story where you can add, remove, cut, splice, do many things with parts of your story. (I might also add to this later I am on two hours sleep) | 1 | 12,698 | 1.5 | ||
z5mole | writing_train | 0.91 | when is it best to make a new chapter? I’m writing a story , mainly just for myself but I wasn’t sure when to create a new chapter? should I make a new one when it’s about a different day or just when the word count is over for example , 2k words. | ixwxq8s | iy0hrnu | 1,669,510,173 | 1,669,581,658 | 1 | 3 | Check out this advice from Jericho Writers on word counts and chapter length; it has some other interesting advice if you scroll down the page a bit. | There are no set rules, but I think a chapter ought to have a natural flow with it's own beginning, middle, and end. Some like to give a special moment of the book several chapters, with cliffhanger endings to keep readers engaged. My method is to always have a break when I think to myself 'okay... THIS is a great place to stop.' | 0 | 71,485 | 3 |
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