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3sk9uz | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Ex-husband is giving child support to 12 year old in cash/bank account he has access to. Refusing to pay me. My ex-husband is in arrears and after reading some thing on the internet has decided to ignore a court order to pay me ( he is an independent contractor so there is no employer to garnish. He gets paid by multiple people, not a single company). Our children are 5, 7 and 12. I work but he barely sees the children and definitely doesn't pay their insurance or schooling so I asked and was granted child support when we divorced 6 years ago. I have sole custody as he had some issues with a thing that really isn't relevant and I won't mention but it lead to me feeling the need to petition for sole custody and I was awarded it. He has visitation. He has this brilliant idea because the thought of paying me directly is appalling to him that he started a bank account and gave access to the 12 year old. He gave the kid a card which he is not allowed to show me at all. My 12 year old is excited, of course, because he has been told he can spend all that money on anything he wants for him and his siblings. My ex-husband will also give my 12 year old cash and have him sign a receipt saying he was given the money. Ok. Here is my issue: 1) That is ridiculous. It is stupid to give a 12 year old access to $400 a month and expect them to spend it on anything related to their upbringing. He buys stuff, basically. Not shoes or clothes or pays for aftercare cost for after school. He buys games, and food, hobby related items. 2) My ex isn't really understanding the concept of child support here. I am already paying for the daycare, the after school programs, the house payment, the medical insurance, the vaccinations, the food, the clothes, BEFORE he even hands over any money. So that money is meant to help reimburse me for a portion of those items. I really, really want to avoid going to court again. He constantly calls my 12 year old to speak for him and I know, he of all the children, remembers when daddy was around and things were better, and it kills me inside to have him even remotely feel like he has to defend anyone or pick a side. I don't want to drag him or anyone through that again. My ex-husband is claiming that because it is known that child support is for the child then it is perfectly and legally acceptable for him to pay a 12 year old. I know I need to contact a lawyer. I plan on it but while I make the call and wait for an appointment, I thought someone might know if this is really the loophole he thinks it is? He also has an idea about starting an "escrow" account where we can only make approved purchase that have been approved by both parents, starting a trust with all the child support that is payable to them on their 18th birthday and he just provides me with proof of deposit a month, etc. Basically, anything to get out of writing me a check at the end of every month. Are any of these legitimate alternatives to traditional child support that would generally be accepted by the court? Edit: Also, because he has mentioned it. Can a minor waive child support for the custodial parent? I am going to say no but honestly I've been wrong a lot in my life so I am not going to make an ass out of myself by assuming. | cwy0v3t | cwxydvh | 1,447,357,330 | 1,447,353,714 | 109 | 42 | This is seriously funny. He's actually paid $0 in support. What he's doing with your 12 year old is giving him gifts that don't account for the support. Go back to court. | 1- ok, your kid is 12. He cannot do anything without you. He cannot go to the bank or store to buy things. Take the card and only let him buy things you approve of. If he comes home with money, take it and put it in a savings account. You are the adult and have full control here. 2- contact child support enforcement and let them handle it or take him back to court | 1 | 3,616 | 2.595238 |
3sk9uz | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Ex-husband is giving child support to 12 year old in cash/bank account he has access to. Refusing to pay me. My ex-husband is in arrears and after reading some thing on the internet has decided to ignore a court order to pay me ( he is an independent contractor so there is no employer to garnish. He gets paid by multiple people, not a single company). Our children are 5, 7 and 12. I work but he barely sees the children and definitely doesn't pay their insurance or schooling so I asked and was granted child support when we divorced 6 years ago. I have sole custody as he had some issues with a thing that really isn't relevant and I won't mention but it lead to me feeling the need to petition for sole custody and I was awarded it. He has visitation. He has this brilliant idea because the thought of paying me directly is appalling to him that he started a bank account and gave access to the 12 year old. He gave the kid a card which he is not allowed to show me at all. My 12 year old is excited, of course, because he has been told he can spend all that money on anything he wants for him and his siblings. My ex-husband will also give my 12 year old cash and have him sign a receipt saying he was given the money. Ok. Here is my issue: 1) That is ridiculous. It is stupid to give a 12 year old access to $400 a month and expect them to spend it on anything related to their upbringing. He buys stuff, basically. Not shoes or clothes or pays for aftercare cost for after school. He buys games, and food, hobby related items. 2) My ex isn't really understanding the concept of child support here. I am already paying for the daycare, the after school programs, the house payment, the medical insurance, the vaccinations, the food, the clothes, BEFORE he even hands over any money. So that money is meant to help reimburse me for a portion of those items. I really, really want to avoid going to court again. He constantly calls my 12 year old to speak for him and I know, he of all the children, remembers when daddy was around and things were better, and it kills me inside to have him even remotely feel like he has to defend anyone or pick a side. I don't want to drag him or anyone through that again. My ex-husband is claiming that because it is known that child support is for the child then it is perfectly and legally acceptable for him to pay a 12 year old. I know I need to contact a lawyer. I plan on it but while I make the call and wait for an appointment, I thought someone might know if this is really the loophole he thinks it is? He also has an idea about starting an "escrow" account where we can only make approved purchase that have been approved by both parents, starting a trust with all the child support that is payable to them on their 18th birthday and he just provides me with proof of deposit a month, etc. Basically, anything to get out of writing me a check at the end of every month. Are any of these legitimate alternatives to traditional child support that would generally be accepted by the court? Edit: Also, because he has mentioned it. Can a minor waive child support for the custodial parent? I am going to say no but honestly I've been wrong a lot in my life so I am not going to make an ass out of myself by assuming. | cwycp8x | cwy1dia | 1,447,375,351 | 1,447,358,067 | 32 | 21 | This isn't legal advice, but you must immediately stop communicating with your ex through your son. If your son starts to talk divorce business, immediately and definitively stop him. "If your father has something to say to me, he knows my number." This is harmful to your son. | I'm sorry you're going to have to back to court for this. Plus side, it may be amusing...I can only imagine the look on the judge's face. | 1 | 17,284 | 1.52381 |
3sk9uz | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Ex-husband is giving child support to 12 year old in cash/bank account he has access to. Refusing to pay me. My ex-husband is in arrears and after reading some thing on the internet has decided to ignore a court order to pay me ( he is an independent contractor so there is no employer to garnish. He gets paid by multiple people, not a single company). Our children are 5, 7 and 12. I work but he barely sees the children and definitely doesn't pay their insurance or schooling so I asked and was granted child support when we divorced 6 years ago. I have sole custody as he had some issues with a thing that really isn't relevant and I won't mention but it lead to me feeling the need to petition for sole custody and I was awarded it. He has visitation. He has this brilliant idea because the thought of paying me directly is appalling to him that he started a bank account and gave access to the 12 year old. He gave the kid a card which he is not allowed to show me at all. My 12 year old is excited, of course, because he has been told he can spend all that money on anything he wants for him and his siblings. My ex-husband will also give my 12 year old cash and have him sign a receipt saying he was given the money. Ok. Here is my issue: 1) That is ridiculous. It is stupid to give a 12 year old access to $400 a month and expect them to spend it on anything related to their upbringing. He buys stuff, basically. Not shoes or clothes or pays for aftercare cost for after school. He buys games, and food, hobby related items. 2) My ex isn't really understanding the concept of child support here. I am already paying for the daycare, the after school programs, the house payment, the medical insurance, the vaccinations, the food, the clothes, BEFORE he even hands over any money. So that money is meant to help reimburse me for a portion of those items. I really, really want to avoid going to court again. He constantly calls my 12 year old to speak for him and I know, he of all the children, remembers when daddy was around and things were better, and it kills me inside to have him even remotely feel like he has to defend anyone or pick a side. I don't want to drag him or anyone through that again. My ex-husband is claiming that because it is known that child support is for the child then it is perfectly and legally acceptable for him to pay a 12 year old. I know I need to contact a lawyer. I plan on it but while I make the call and wait for an appointment, I thought someone might know if this is really the loophole he thinks it is? He also has an idea about starting an "escrow" account where we can only make approved purchase that have been approved by both parents, starting a trust with all the child support that is payable to them on their 18th birthday and he just provides me with proof of deposit a month, etc. Basically, anything to get out of writing me a check at the end of every month. Are any of these legitimate alternatives to traditional child support that would generally be accepted by the court? Edit: Also, because he has mentioned it. Can a minor waive child support for the custodial parent? I am going to say no but honestly I've been wrong a lot in my life so I am not going to make an ass out of myself by assuming. | cwy5pxv | cwycp8x | 1,447,364,345 | 1,447,375,351 | 17 | 32 | I am not a lawyer A friend of mine has 2 baby mommas, he was in the beginning in good terms and just handed them money for what was needed. When baby mommas decided to go on public assistance the judge was like where is support? It had never been court ordered but since they filed for public assistance he was required to "go after him". He is now $20k behind. He has been in jail, reporting probation, random drug screened, work release among other things because no matter how much he pays he always looks behind. So your ex is an idiot and hopefully the county you live in is tough on non custodial parents because he is going to be in hot water soon. As a divorced parent I feel your pain! | This isn't legal advice, but you must immediately stop communicating with your ex through your son. If your son starts to talk divorce business, immediately and definitively stop him. "If your father has something to say to me, he knows my number." This is harmful to your son. | 0 | 11,006 | 1.882353 |
3sk9uz | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Ex-husband is giving child support to 12 year old in cash/bank account he has access to. Refusing to pay me. My ex-husband is in arrears and after reading some thing on the internet has decided to ignore a court order to pay me ( he is an independent contractor so there is no employer to garnish. He gets paid by multiple people, not a single company). Our children are 5, 7 and 12. I work but he barely sees the children and definitely doesn't pay their insurance or schooling so I asked and was granted child support when we divorced 6 years ago. I have sole custody as he had some issues with a thing that really isn't relevant and I won't mention but it lead to me feeling the need to petition for sole custody and I was awarded it. He has visitation. He has this brilliant idea because the thought of paying me directly is appalling to him that he started a bank account and gave access to the 12 year old. He gave the kid a card which he is not allowed to show me at all. My 12 year old is excited, of course, because he has been told he can spend all that money on anything he wants for him and his siblings. My ex-husband will also give my 12 year old cash and have him sign a receipt saying he was given the money. Ok. Here is my issue: 1) That is ridiculous. It is stupid to give a 12 year old access to $400 a month and expect them to spend it on anything related to their upbringing. He buys stuff, basically. Not shoes or clothes or pays for aftercare cost for after school. He buys games, and food, hobby related items. 2) My ex isn't really understanding the concept of child support here. I am already paying for the daycare, the after school programs, the house payment, the medical insurance, the vaccinations, the food, the clothes, BEFORE he even hands over any money. So that money is meant to help reimburse me for a portion of those items. I really, really want to avoid going to court again. He constantly calls my 12 year old to speak for him and I know, he of all the children, remembers when daddy was around and things were better, and it kills me inside to have him even remotely feel like he has to defend anyone or pick a side. I don't want to drag him or anyone through that again. My ex-husband is claiming that because it is known that child support is for the child then it is perfectly and legally acceptable for him to pay a 12 year old. I know I need to contact a lawyer. I plan on it but while I make the call and wait for an appointment, I thought someone might know if this is really the loophole he thinks it is? He also has an idea about starting an "escrow" account where we can only make approved purchase that have been approved by both parents, starting a trust with all the child support that is payable to them on their 18th birthday and he just provides me with proof of deposit a month, etc. Basically, anything to get out of writing me a check at the end of every month. Are any of these legitimate alternatives to traditional child support that would generally be accepted by the court? Edit: Also, because he has mentioned it. Can a minor waive child support for the custodial parent? I am going to say no but honestly I've been wrong a lot in my life so I am not going to make an ass out of myself by assuming. | cwycp8x | cwy9k8e | 1,447,375,351 | 1,447,370,242 | 32 | 10 | This isn't legal advice, but you must immediately stop communicating with your ex through your son. If your son starts to talk divorce business, immediately and definitively stop him. "If your father has something to say to me, he knows my number." This is harmful to your son. | Legally, your ex-husband has made a big mistake and is fucked. These situations are tense but, as others have suggested, you should pursue legal action even if it is a tough thing for you to handle emotionally. His actions are way off the deep-end and you should stop the damages before things get worse. | 1 | 5,109 | 3.2 |
3sk9uz | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Ex-husband is giving child support to 12 year old in cash/bank account he has access to. Refusing to pay me. My ex-husband is in arrears and after reading some thing on the internet has decided to ignore a court order to pay me ( he is an independent contractor so there is no employer to garnish. He gets paid by multiple people, not a single company). Our children are 5, 7 and 12. I work but he barely sees the children and definitely doesn't pay their insurance or schooling so I asked and was granted child support when we divorced 6 years ago. I have sole custody as he had some issues with a thing that really isn't relevant and I won't mention but it lead to me feeling the need to petition for sole custody and I was awarded it. He has visitation. He has this brilliant idea because the thought of paying me directly is appalling to him that he started a bank account and gave access to the 12 year old. He gave the kid a card which he is not allowed to show me at all. My 12 year old is excited, of course, because he has been told he can spend all that money on anything he wants for him and his siblings. My ex-husband will also give my 12 year old cash and have him sign a receipt saying he was given the money. Ok. Here is my issue: 1) That is ridiculous. It is stupid to give a 12 year old access to $400 a month and expect them to spend it on anything related to their upbringing. He buys stuff, basically. Not shoes or clothes or pays for aftercare cost for after school. He buys games, and food, hobby related items. 2) My ex isn't really understanding the concept of child support here. I am already paying for the daycare, the after school programs, the house payment, the medical insurance, the vaccinations, the food, the clothes, BEFORE he even hands over any money. So that money is meant to help reimburse me for a portion of those items. I really, really want to avoid going to court again. He constantly calls my 12 year old to speak for him and I know, he of all the children, remembers when daddy was around and things were better, and it kills me inside to have him even remotely feel like he has to defend anyone or pick a side. I don't want to drag him or anyone through that again. My ex-husband is claiming that because it is known that child support is for the child then it is perfectly and legally acceptable for him to pay a 12 year old. I know I need to contact a lawyer. I plan on it but while I make the call and wait for an appointment, I thought someone might know if this is really the loophole he thinks it is? He also has an idea about starting an "escrow" account where we can only make approved purchase that have been approved by both parents, starting a trust with all the child support that is payable to them on their 18th birthday and he just provides me with proof of deposit a month, etc. Basically, anything to get out of writing me a check at the end of every month. Are any of these legitimate alternatives to traditional child support that would generally be accepted by the court? Edit: Also, because he has mentioned it. Can a minor waive child support for the custodial parent? I am going to say no but honestly I've been wrong a lot in my life so I am not going to make an ass out of myself by assuming. | cwytlf1 | cwy5pxv | 1,447,419,218 | 1,447,364,345 | 18 | 17 | Child support isn't for the child. It's for you in order to support the children. In spite of this, he's not harming you in any way by not paying it, he's hurting his kids. Tell him that in future, he is to communicate only via written methods, email or letters. Ask to see bank statements for the account he's set up for your child and then show him that obviously your 12 year old isn't buying food and clothes and other things that are boring for a 12 year old. He's probably buying subscriptions to games and going wild in Toys'r'Us? You've done well by getting in touch with your lawyer and letting him send official letters. DO NOT communicate with this man via anything other than something which can be shown in court. If he texts, save it with the date stamp showing. If he emails, print it out. If he calls, say "thanks for letting me know, but put it in writing for me". If he doesn't, even noting what you think he said in a diary would help. He's actually ended up paying out twice as much as he would have done if he's have just done it by the book and properly. What a tit. | I am not a lawyer A friend of mine has 2 baby mommas, he was in the beginning in good terms and just handed them money for what was needed. When baby mommas decided to go on public assistance the judge was like where is support? It had never been court ordered but since they filed for public assistance he was required to "go after him". He is now $20k behind. He has been in jail, reporting probation, random drug screened, work release among other things because no matter how much he pays he always looks behind. So your ex is an idiot and hopefully the county you live in is tough on non custodial parents because he is going to be in hot water soon. As a divorced parent I feel your pain! | 1 | 54,873 | 1.058824 |
3sk9uz | legaladvice_train | 0.94 | Ex-husband is giving child support to 12 year old in cash/bank account he has access to. Refusing to pay me. My ex-husband is in arrears and after reading some thing on the internet has decided to ignore a court order to pay me ( he is an independent contractor so there is no employer to garnish. He gets paid by multiple people, not a single company). Our children are 5, 7 and 12. I work but he barely sees the children and definitely doesn't pay their insurance or schooling so I asked and was granted child support when we divorced 6 years ago. I have sole custody as he had some issues with a thing that really isn't relevant and I won't mention but it lead to me feeling the need to petition for sole custody and I was awarded it. He has visitation. He has this brilliant idea because the thought of paying me directly is appalling to him that he started a bank account and gave access to the 12 year old. He gave the kid a card which he is not allowed to show me at all. My 12 year old is excited, of course, because he has been told he can spend all that money on anything he wants for him and his siblings. My ex-husband will also give my 12 year old cash and have him sign a receipt saying he was given the money. Ok. Here is my issue: 1) That is ridiculous. It is stupid to give a 12 year old access to $400 a month and expect them to spend it on anything related to their upbringing. He buys stuff, basically. Not shoes or clothes or pays for aftercare cost for after school. He buys games, and food, hobby related items. 2) My ex isn't really understanding the concept of child support here. I am already paying for the daycare, the after school programs, the house payment, the medical insurance, the vaccinations, the food, the clothes, BEFORE he even hands over any money. So that money is meant to help reimburse me for a portion of those items. I really, really want to avoid going to court again. He constantly calls my 12 year old to speak for him and I know, he of all the children, remembers when daddy was around and things were better, and it kills me inside to have him even remotely feel like he has to defend anyone or pick a side. I don't want to drag him or anyone through that again. My ex-husband is claiming that because it is known that child support is for the child then it is perfectly and legally acceptable for him to pay a 12 year old. I know I need to contact a lawyer. I plan on it but while I make the call and wait for an appointment, I thought someone might know if this is really the loophole he thinks it is? He also has an idea about starting an "escrow" account where we can only make approved purchase that have been approved by both parents, starting a trust with all the child support that is payable to them on their 18th birthday and he just provides me with proof of deposit a month, etc. Basically, anything to get out of writing me a check at the end of every month. Are any of these legitimate alternatives to traditional child support that would generally be accepted by the court? Edit: Also, because he has mentioned it. Can a minor waive child support for the custodial parent? I am going to say no but honestly I've been wrong a lot in my life so I am not going to make an ass out of myself by assuming. | cwytlf1 | cwy9k8e | 1,447,419,218 | 1,447,370,242 | 18 | 10 | Child support isn't for the child. It's for you in order to support the children. In spite of this, he's not harming you in any way by not paying it, he's hurting his kids. Tell him that in future, he is to communicate only via written methods, email or letters. Ask to see bank statements for the account he's set up for your child and then show him that obviously your 12 year old isn't buying food and clothes and other things that are boring for a 12 year old. He's probably buying subscriptions to games and going wild in Toys'r'Us? You've done well by getting in touch with your lawyer and letting him send official letters. DO NOT communicate with this man via anything other than something which can be shown in court. If he texts, save it with the date stamp showing. If he emails, print it out. If he calls, say "thanks for letting me know, but put it in writing for me". If he doesn't, even noting what you think he said in a diary would help. He's actually ended up paying out twice as much as he would have done if he's have just done it by the book and properly. What a tit. | Legally, your ex-husband has made a big mistake and is fucked. These situations are tense but, as others have suggested, you should pursue legal action even if it is a tough thing for you to handle emotionally. His actions are way off the deep-end and you should stop the damages before things get worse. | 1 | 48,976 | 1.8 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2kax2 | cw2fq6y | 1,445,047,652 | 1,445,038,635 | 352 | 201 | "He's old fashioned" isn't an excuse to be sexist. Call their corporate office and report this, with names and exact quotes if possible. You might also see if there's a way you can complain to the state about this guy. | Ask the manager who is the proper person at the branch for you to serve a lawsuit to. If this doesn't make him cave, then have an attorney send that person a strongly worded letter. Or, escalate to the national office. | 1 | 9,017 | 1.751244 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2kax2 | cw2htdq | 1,445,047,652 | 1,445,042,690 | 352 | 142 | "He's old fashioned" isn't an excuse to be sexist. Call their corporate office and report this, with names and exact quotes if possible. You might also see if there's a way you can complain to the state about this guy. | > I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". No, it's not OK. Tell the manager that either his employ moves with the times, or your lawyer will do the asking. | 1 | 4,962 | 2.478873 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2kax2 | cw2fq0k | 1,445,047,652 | 1,445,038,626 | 352 | 49 | "He's old fashioned" isn't an excuse to be sexist. Call their corporate office and report this, with names and exact quotes if possible. You might also see if there's a way you can complain to the state about this guy. | You can transfer all the money out of it to an account at another bank that will be more to your liking. | 1 | 9,026 | 7.183673 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2kax2 | cw2hroq | 1,445,047,652 | 1,445,042,595 | 352 | 21 | "He's old fashioned" isn't an excuse to be sexist. Call their corporate office and report this, with names and exact quotes if possible. You might also see if there's a way you can complain to the state about this guy. | What "changes"? | 1 | 5,057 | 16.761905 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2fq6y | cw2fq0k | 1,445,038,635 | 1,445,038,626 | 201 | 49 | Ask the manager who is the proper person at the branch for you to serve a lawsuit to. If this doesn't make him cave, then have an attorney send that person a strongly worded letter. Or, escalate to the national office. | You can transfer all the money out of it to an account at another bank that will be more to your liking. | 1 | 9 | 4.102041 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2fq0k | cw2htdq | 1,445,038,626 | 1,445,042,690 | 49 | 142 | You can transfer all the money out of it to an account at another bank that will be more to your liking. | > I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". No, it's not OK. Tell the manager that either his employ moves with the times, or your lawyer will do the asking. | 0 | 4,064 | 2.897959 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2hroq | cw2htdq | 1,445,042,595 | 1,445,042,690 | 21 | 142 | What "changes"? | > I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". No, it's not OK. Tell the manager that either his employ moves with the times, or your lawyer will do the asking. | 0 | 95 | 6.761905 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2kvf9 | cw2fq0k | 1,445,048,799 | 1,445,038,626 | 131 | 49 | Rather than arguing with an idiot, See if your new bank (because obviously you need a new bank) offers a "switch kit." A lot of them do. They tend to take on 2 forms, either a couple form letters that you fill out and send to your old bank, or a couple forms that you give to your new bank that gives them the authority to contact your old bank and close your old account on your behalf. Either way, they are prefilled with all the appropriate legalese to tell your old bank "I'm not kidding, do it now, or if you claim you can't, tell me exactly what I have to do. Now." It's been quite useful for me when I've had to switch bank account and retirement around. It puts all the information they need in one place, and starts any legal clocks that might exist for that particular account that they have to comply with ticking. And if they still make you talk to their retention people, remember that "No." is a complete sentence. add: Also, send a letter to all the regulators who might have even the slightest hint of an interest. CFPB, state attorney general for your state and the bank's home state, and the office of the comptroller of currency (or equivalent) for your state and the the bank's home state. Doesn't need to be certified unless you are feeling really vindictive. I once had an account at HSBC with 3 cents in it. I had spent months calling and sending letters to get them to close out the account and just kept getting passed around. One day they couldn't find the account, the next day I needed a different department, next day they needed new information they hadn't asked for before, the day after that they had lost information they had previously received. I got sick of it and sent the letters. A week later I had a VP burning down my phone and running all over the company figuring it out. He couldn't understand how he got in this position, but it was critical to him that he get me my 3 cents and close the account. I told him I didn't care about the 3 cents, I just wanted the account closed. He would have none of it. He overnighted a certified check for 3 cents. He called me once a week for a month until I finally deposited the certified check. | You can transfer all the money out of it to an account at another bank that will be more to your liking. | 1 | 10,173 | 2.673469 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2kvf9 | cw2hroq | 1,445,048,799 | 1,445,042,595 | 131 | 21 | Rather than arguing with an idiot, See if your new bank (because obviously you need a new bank) offers a "switch kit." A lot of them do. They tend to take on 2 forms, either a couple form letters that you fill out and send to your old bank, or a couple forms that you give to your new bank that gives them the authority to contact your old bank and close your old account on your behalf. Either way, they are prefilled with all the appropriate legalese to tell your old bank "I'm not kidding, do it now, or if you claim you can't, tell me exactly what I have to do. Now." It's been quite useful for me when I've had to switch bank account and retirement around. It puts all the information they need in one place, and starts any legal clocks that might exist for that particular account that they have to comply with ticking. And if they still make you talk to their retention people, remember that "No." is a complete sentence. add: Also, send a letter to all the regulators who might have even the slightest hint of an interest. CFPB, state attorney general for your state and the bank's home state, and the office of the comptroller of currency (or equivalent) for your state and the the bank's home state. Doesn't need to be certified unless you are feeling really vindictive. I once had an account at HSBC with 3 cents in it. I had spent months calling and sending letters to get them to close out the account and just kept getting passed around. One day they couldn't find the account, the next day I needed a different department, next day they needed new information they hadn't asked for before, the day after that they had lost information they had previously received. I got sick of it and sent the letters. A week later I had a VP burning down my phone and running all over the company figuring it out. He couldn't understand how he got in this position, but it was critical to him that he get me my 3 cents and close the account. I told him I didn't care about the 3 cents, I just wanted the account closed. He would have none of it. He overnighted a certified check for 3 cents. He called me once a week for a month until I finally deposited the certified check. | What "changes"? | 1 | 6,204 | 6.238095 |
3p1xxr | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | (FL) Bank employee refusing to allow me access to my own account and the bank manager doesn't care. I am the primary account holder. But an employee of the bank I use refuses to allow me to make any changes without my husbands permission, my husband is the secondary account holder. This employee is the only "personal banker" so certain changes can only be made with him. I spoke to the bank manager and he said that its ok for him to only allow my husband to make changes even though I'm the primary because "he's old fashioned and has always done it this way". Is there any legal action I can take as this man is preventing me from accessing my own account? | cw2hroq | cw2lpe3 | 1,445,042,595 | 1,445,050,489 | 21 | 31 | What "changes"? | No advice, but I have heard of banks that when there is a joint account will always put the man as the primary. Not sure if that is still the case. | 0 | 7,894 | 1.47619 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glvdvj9 | glv4vj6 | 1,612,366,822 | 1,612,362,969 | 719 | 273 | At the time of purchase you would be undergoing a NICS check and filing at ATF Form 4473(5300.9) with the federal government that includes this question: **"Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. "** The form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download \- If you say NO to this then the sale will be denied. \- If you say YES to this then you are committing a federal felony that could cost you 10 years in prison. ​ I would advise against it. | No, it is not legal. | 1 | 3,853 | 2.6337 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glvdvj9 | glv5ea8 | 1,612,366,822 | 1,612,363,200 | 719 | 107 | At the time of purchase you would be undergoing a NICS check and filing at ATF Form 4473(5300.9) with the federal government that includes this question: **"Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. "** The form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download \- If you say NO to this then the sale will be denied. \- If you say YES to this then you are committing a federal felony that could cost you 10 years in prison. ​ I would advise against it. | No, that's called a straw purchase, and you can be charged with a crime if you do that. | 1 | 3,622 | 6.719626 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glvdvj9 | glv6suq | 1,612,366,822 | 1,612,363,819 | 719 | 83 | At the time of purchase you would be undergoing a NICS check and filing at ATF Form 4473(5300.9) with the federal government that includes this question: **"Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. "** The form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download \- If you say NO to this then the sale will be denied. \- If you say YES to this then you are committing a federal felony that could cost you 10 years in prison. ​ I would advise against it. | No, it's not legal, and you're not old enough to buy a firearm, anyway, so the point is moot. You have to be 18 years of age to buy a long gun (rifle or shotgun) and 21 years of age for all other firearms. | 1 | 3,003 | 8.662651 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv9bbb | glvdvj9 | 1,612,364,900 | 1,612,366,822 | 84 | 719 | Oh! Even I know this one! No. | At the time of purchase you would be undergoing a NICS check and filing at ATF Form 4473(5300.9) with the federal government that includes this question: **"Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. "** The form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download \- If you say NO to this then the sale will be denied. \- If you say YES to this then you are committing a federal felony that could cost you 10 years in prison. ​ I would advise against it. | 0 | 1,922 | 8.559524 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv5op3 | glvdvj9 | 1,612,363,329 | 1,612,366,822 | 31 | 719 | I am not an attorney however I think: Not only is that illegal but I'm sure that is a felony. Also you can get into a lot of trouble cause you will need to prove you didn't assist your father in purchasing the guns aka possibility testifying against him in court. Also throw in Identity Theft. Edit: I assume your father lost his rights to own guns cause of your post where he got drunk, shot and killed your dog. | At the time of purchase you would be undergoing a NICS check and filing at ATF Form 4473(5300.9) with the federal government that includes this question: **"Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. "** The form: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download \- If you say NO to this then the sale will be denied. \- If you say YES to this then you are committing a federal felony that could cost you 10 years in prison. ​ I would advise against it. | 0 | 3,493 | 23.193548 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv6suq | glw5ztp | 1,612,363,819 | 1,612,378,077 | 83 | 89 | No, it's not legal, and you're not old enough to buy a firearm, anyway, so the point is moot. You have to be 18 years of age to buy a long gun (rifle or shotgun) and 21 years of age for all other firearms. | Not only could you be criminally prosecuted for the "straw-man purchase," up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine in federal court, but you may also be able to be sued by anyone who is injured by this gun under a theory of negligent entrustment. | 0 | 14,258 | 1.072289 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv9bbb | glw5ztp | 1,612,364,900 | 1,612,378,077 | 84 | 89 | Oh! Even I know this one! No. | Not only could you be criminally prosecuted for the "straw-man purchase," up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine in federal court, but you may also be able to be sued by anyone who is injured by this gun under a theory of negligent entrustment. | 0 | 13,177 | 1.059524 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv5op3 | glw5ztp | 1,612,363,329 | 1,612,378,077 | 31 | 89 | I am not an attorney however I think: Not only is that illegal but I'm sure that is a felony. Also you can get into a lot of trouble cause you will need to prove you didn't assist your father in purchasing the guns aka possibility testifying against him in court. Also throw in Identity Theft. Edit: I assume your father lost his rights to own guns cause of your post where he got drunk, shot and killed your dog. | Not only could you be criminally prosecuted for the "straw-man purchase," up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine in federal court, but you may also be able to be sued by anyone who is injured by this gun under a theory of negligent entrustment. | 0 | 14,748 | 2.870968 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glvzcqi | glw5ztp | 1,612,375,468 | 1,612,378,077 | 17 | 89 | That’s what happens when an idiot owns guns. Don’t criminalize yourself because your father made a dumb mistake. | Not only could you be criminally prosecuted for the "straw-man purchase," up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine in federal court, but you may also be able to be sued by anyone who is injured by this gun under a theory of negligent entrustment. | 0 | 2,609 | 5.235294 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glw2zhb | glw5ztp | 1,612,376,880 | 1,612,378,077 | 13 | 89 | Not a lawyer, but you say that you're 17 and in high school? Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but I'm pretty sure that you're not old enough to purchase either on your own. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that I am. | Not only could you be criminally prosecuted for the "straw-man purchase," up to 10 years and a $250,000 fine in federal court, but you may also be able to be sued by anyone who is injured by this gun under a theory of negligent entrustment. | 0 | 1,197 | 6.846154 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv6suq | glv9bbb | 1,612,363,819 | 1,612,364,900 | 83 | 84 | No, it's not legal, and you're not old enough to buy a firearm, anyway, so the point is moot. You have to be 18 years of age to buy a long gun (rifle or shotgun) and 21 years of age for all other firearms. | Oh! Even I know this one! No. | 0 | 1,081 | 1.012048 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv5op3 | glv6suq | 1,612,363,329 | 1,612,363,819 | 31 | 83 | I am not an attorney however I think: Not only is that illegal but I'm sure that is a felony. Also you can get into a lot of trouble cause you will need to prove you didn't assist your father in purchasing the guns aka possibility testifying against him in court. Also throw in Identity Theft. Edit: I assume your father lost his rights to own guns cause of your post where he got drunk, shot and killed your dog. | No, it's not legal, and you're not old enough to buy a firearm, anyway, so the point is moot. You have to be 18 years of age to buy a long gun (rifle or shotgun) and 21 years of age for all other firearms. | 0 | 490 | 2.677419 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv9bbb | glv5op3 | 1,612,364,900 | 1,612,363,329 | 84 | 31 | Oh! Even I know this one! No. | I am not an attorney however I think: Not only is that illegal but I'm sure that is a felony. Also you can get into a lot of trouble cause you will need to prove you didn't assist your father in purchasing the guns aka possibility testifying against him in court. Also throw in Identity Theft. Edit: I assume your father lost his rights to own guns cause of your post where he got drunk, shot and killed your dog. | 1 | 1,571 | 2.709677 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv5op3 | glwrxrz | 1,612,363,329 | 1,612,386,995 | 31 | 74 | I am not an attorney however I think: Not only is that illegal but I'm sure that is a felony. Also you can get into a lot of trouble cause you will need to prove you didn't assist your father in purchasing the guns aka possibility testifying against him in court. Also throw in Identity Theft. Edit: I assume your father lost his rights to own guns cause of your post where he got drunk, shot and killed your dog. | Everyone is just repeatedly saying this is illegal, but OP could be in a dangerous situation by refusing to comply with a violent criminal. Is there an authority figure OP can refer to in this case (e.g. law enforcement)? | 0 | 23,666 | 2.387097 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwrxrz | glvzcqi | 1,612,386,995 | 1,612,375,468 | 74 | 17 | Everyone is just repeatedly saying this is illegal, but OP could be in a dangerous situation by refusing to comply with a violent criminal. Is there an authority figure OP can refer to in this case (e.g. law enforcement)? | That’s what happens when an idiot owns guns. Don’t criminalize yourself because your father made a dumb mistake. | 1 | 11,527 | 4.352941 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwcn13 | glwrxrz | 1,612,380,736 | 1,612,386,995 | 15 | 74 | I am pretty sure this is the definition of a straw purchase (buying a gun for someone else when you know they would not pass a background check). One of the questions on 4473 form is if you are the actual buyer. Answering Yes in this situation would be lying to a federal official. | Everyone is just repeatedly saying this is illegal, but OP could be in a dangerous situation by refusing to comply with a violent criminal. Is there an authority figure OP can refer to in this case (e.g. law enforcement)? | 0 | 6,259 | 4.933333 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwrxrz | glwojys | 1,612,386,995 | 1,612,385,622 | 74 | 15 | Everyone is just repeatedly saying this is illegal, but OP could be in a dangerous situation by refusing to comply with a violent criminal. Is there an authority figure OP can refer to in this case (e.g. law enforcement)? | In addition to this being a straw purchase and a felony, you wouldn't be able to buy the handgun as there is federal law prohibiting FFLs from selling handguns to persons under 18. Advice: Use an indirect "no" with your dad to avoid more confrontation. Say you looked into it and you can't help him out because 1) you're under 18 and 2) the store won't let you buy a gun for someone else. | 1 | 1,373 | 4.933333 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glw2zhb | glwrxrz | 1,612,376,880 | 1,612,386,995 | 13 | 74 | Not a lawyer, but you say that you're 17 and in high school? Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but I'm pretty sure that you're not old enough to purchase either on your own. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that I am. | Everyone is just repeatedly saying this is illegal, but OP could be in a dangerous situation by refusing to comply with a violent criminal. Is there an authority figure OP can refer to in this case (e.g. law enforcement)? | 0 | 10,115 | 5.692308 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwrxrz | glwgimz | 1,612,386,995 | 1,612,382,337 | 74 | 7 | Everyone is just repeatedly saying this is illegal, but OP could be in a dangerous situation by refusing to comply with a violent criminal. Is there an authority figure OP can refer to in this case (e.g. law enforcement)? | Everyone has already told you it's called a straw purchase and it's illegal. You want to possibly get a criminal record this young? That can prevent you from doing things in the future that you want to do? But I mainly want to add - imagine you do buy the guns for your dad, and a little while in the future there is another "incident". With him and acting irresponsiblely with a gun. The police investigate and find out their are your guns. There are a couple of ways YOU could be in crminall trouble now | 1 | 4,658 | 10.571429 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glv5op3 | glww0ii | 1,612,363,329 | 1,612,388,688 | 31 | 57 | I am not an attorney however I think: Not only is that illegal but I'm sure that is a felony. Also you can get into a lot of trouble cause you will need to prove you didn't assist your father in purchasing the guns aka possibility testifying against him in court. Also throw in Identity Theft. Edit: I assume your father lost his rights to own guns cause of your post where he got drunk, shot and killed your dog. | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | 0 | 25,359 | 1.83871 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glvzcqi | glww0ii | 1,612,375,468 | 1,612,388,688 | 17 | 57 | That’s what happens when an idiot owns guns. Don’t criminalize yourself because your father made a dumb mistake. | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | 0 | 13,220 | 3.352941 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glww0ii | glwcn13 | 1,612,388,688 | 1,612,380,736 | 57 | 15 | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | I am pretty sure this is the definition of a straw purchase (buying a gun for someone else when you know they would not pass a background check). One of the questions on 4473 form is if you are the actual buyer. Answering Yes in this situation would be lying to a federal official. | 1 | 7,952 | 3.8 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwojys | glww0ii | 1,612,385,622 | 1,612,388,688 | 15 | 57 | In addition to this being a straw purchase and a felony, you wouldn't be able to buy the handgun as there is federal law prohibiting FFLs from selling handguns to persons under 18. Advice: Use an indirect "no" with your dad to avoid more confrontation. Say you looked into it and you can't help him out because 1) you're under 18 and 2) the store won't let you buy a gun for someone else. | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | 0 | 3,066 | 3.8 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glww0ii | glw2zhb | 1,612,388,688 | 1,612,376,880 | 57 | 13 | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | Not a lawyer, but you say that you're 17 and in high school? Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but I'm pretty sure that you're not old enough to purchase either on your own. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that I am. | 1 | 11,808 | 4.384615 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwgimz | glww0ii | 1,612,382,337 | 1,612,388,688 | 7 | 57 | Everyone has already told you it's called a straw purchase and it's illegal. You want to possibly get a criminal record this young? That can prevent you from doing things in the future that you want to do? But I mainly want to add - imagine you do buy the guns for your dad, and a little while in the future there is another "incident". With him and acting irresponsiblely with a gun. The police investigate and find out their are your guns. There are a couple of ways YOU could be in crminall trouble now | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | 0 | 6,351 | 8.142857 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glww0ii | glwsw5k | 1,612,388,688 | 1,612,387,389 | 57 | 5 | Depending on the reasons his guns were taken away, he may not be allowed to live in the same house with someone who owns firearms (for example, the Brady Bill). So it would still be illegal for him to live with you and your guns (even if they weren’t actually for him, which they are). I like the other people’s recommendations to answer the form honestly and then be turned down. I’m sorry you’re in a scary situation with him. Can you leave when you turn 18 and get away from him? | This is... the most illegal. | 1 | 1,299 | 11.4 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwcn13 | glw2zhb | 1,612,380,736 | 1,612,376,880 | 15 | 13 | I am pretty sure this is the definition of a straw purchase (buying a gun for someone else when you know they would not pass a background check). One of the questions on 4473 form is if you are the actual buyer. Answering Yes in this situation would be lying to a federal official. | Not a lawyer, but you say that you're 17 and in high school? Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but I'm pretty sure that you're not old enough to purchase either on your own. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that I am. | 1 | 3,856 | 1.153846 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glw2zhb | glwojys | 1,612,376,880 | 1,612,385,622 | 13 | 15 | Not a lawyer, but you say that you're 17 and in high school? Maybe things are different in Tennessee, but I'm pretty sure that you're not old enough to purchase either on your own. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that I am. | In addition to this being a straw purchase and a felony, you wouldn't be able to buy the handgun as there is federal law prohibiting FFLs from selling handguns to persons under 18. Advice: Use an indirect "no" with your dad to avoid more confrontation. Say you looked into it and you can't help him out because 1) you're under 18 and 2) the store won't let you buy a gun for someone else. | 0 | 8,742 | 1.153846 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwojys | glwgimz | 1,612,385,622 | 1,612,382,337 | 15 | 7 | In addition to this being a straw purchase and a felony, you wouldn't be able to buy the handgun as there is federal law prohibiting FFLs from selling handguns to persons under 18. Advice: Use an indirect "no" with your dad to avoid more confrontation. Say you looked into it and you can't help him out because 1) you're under 18 and 2) the store won't let you buy a gun for someone else. | Everyone has already told you it's called a straw purchase and it's illegal. You want to possibly get a criminal record this young? That can prevent you from doing things in the future that you want to do? But I mainly want to add - imagine you do buy the guns for your dad, and a little while in the future there is another "incident". With him and acting irresponsiblely with a gun. The police investigate and find out their are your guns. There are a couple of ways YOU could be in crminall trouble now | 1 | 3,285 | 2.142857 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glwgimz | glx039i | 1,612,382,337 | 1,612,390,430 | 7 | 8 | Everyone has already told you it's called a straw purchase and it's illegal. You want to possibly get a criminal record this young? That can prevent you from doing things in the future that you want to do? But I mainly want to add - imagine you do buy the guns for your dad, and a little while in the future there is another "incident". With him and acting irresponsiblely with a gun. The police investigate and find out their are your guns. There are a couple of ways YOU could be in crminall trouble now | No, this is extremely illegal. Very illegal. | 0 | 8,093 | 1.142857 |
lbosb9 | legaladvice_train | 0.92 | My dad had his guns taken, now he wants me to buy guns under my name but he would use them, I wonder if that's legal? We're in Tennessee. My dad had his guns taken at the end of last year because he drew a gun and shot at a wall at a party and someone complained (well I think that's the reason, possibly it's something else). He's not happy with this at all though because he likes having guns. He wants me to go to a gun shop and buy a handgun and if possible also a rifle under my name as if they were for me, but I know he would be the one using them. He would give me the money beforehand. I live with him (I'm 17 and in high school) so clearly he would have access to the guns at all time. I'm worried about doing this. He's kind of irresponsible with guns, he shot my dog while drunk and he likes to play with his guns when he drinks. I'm not comfortable with having guns under my name when there's a risk someone could be injured. Tbh I was relieved when he had to surrender his guns. I wonder if it's legal for me to buy guns that he would use? If I can convince him that it's a problem I might not have to do it. Thanks for your help. | glx039i | glwsw5k | 1,612,390,430 | 1,612,387,389 | 8 | 5 | No, this is extremely illegal. Very illegal. | This is... the most illegal. | 1 | 3,041 | 1.6 |
4b6093 | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | My dad wants me to register a car in my name and insure it as well, I think this is a terrible idea and need help explaining why [NY] His license was suspended for child support issues, but he resolved them last year. When he went to get his license back, the DMV told him that would not be possible to his numerous DWIs (3~?). His last one occurred 10 years ago (so he claims, but he could be lying!), but I guess NYS looks back 25 years when making the decision to reinstate a license. Now he needs a car for his job. I and someone else have been providing him with rides for the past year, but the other driver quit after constant mistreatment. I myself am close to that point but I know he will lose his job if I don't help. His solution? He wants to buy a car and put the registration ans insurance in my name, and probably the title too. Am I correct in saying I would be legally liable even if my dad were driving this car? If he hits and injures (or possibly kills) someone, couldn't they sue me? I am 99% sure the insurance would not even cover an accident when the driver has a suspended license. Can I even insure someone with a suspended license? Please help, my dad is treating me terribly, and if I don't do this or drive him around every day he justs makes me feel like crap. I just need a solid, logical argument as to why this is all a terrible idea so he will leave me alone about it. | d16c91x | d16c7vh | 1,458,441,878 | 1,458,441,814 | 33 | 15 | Stay far away. This is insurance fraud at the very, very least. > I just need a solid, logical argument as to why this is all a terrible idea so he will leave me alone about it. No you don't. You don't owe him any of that. This is not a negotiation. I'd go with something like this: "No." | Terrible idea and you will regret it. Just cut off contact with him so you don't have to put up with his mistreatment of you. | 1 | 64 | 2.2 |
4b6093 | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | My dad wants me to register a car in my name and insure it as well, I think this is a terrible idea and need help explaining why [NY] His license was suspended for child support issues, but he resolved them last year. When he went to get his license back, the DMV told him that would not be possible to his numerous DWIs (3~?). His last one occurred 10 years ago (so he claims, but he could be lying!), but I guess NYS looks back 25 years when making the decision to reinstate a license. Now he needs a car for his job. I and someone else have been providing him with rides for the past year, but the other driver quit after constant mistreatment. I myself am close to that point but I know he will lose his job if I don't help. His solution? He wants to buy a car and put the registration ans insurance in my name, and probably the title too. Am I correct in saying I would be legally liable even if my dad were driving this car? If he hits and injures (or possibly kills) someone, couldn't they sue me? I am 99% sure the insurance would not even cover an accident when the driver has a suspended license. Can I even insure someone with a suspended license? Please help, my dad is treating me terribly, and if I don't do this or drive him around every day he justs makes me feel like crap. I just need a solid, logical argument as to why this is all a terrible idea so he will leave me alone about it. | d16gd1u | d16dl0x | 1,458,450,420 | 1,458,444,468 | 11 | 5 | Insurance advice Under no illusions, your dad is trying to make you pay for his mistakes. If he is a regular driver, he HAS to be rated as, at the very least, a driver. He is a regular user of the vehicle. He is an EXPOSURE. Either way, your insurance company will find out. I was studying for my CPCU with the number one insurer in the nation (nothing personal and this is not name dropping) but underwriting has the privilege to protect the company by whatever means necessary...be it a Facebook post or anything that can be found via any other search. What I want to stress is that do not, in any way, put yourself in a bad position. | Being related doesn't mean you have to fix his mistakes. He committed several DWIs and the loss of his licence is due to that. Don't commit a crime yourself because he makes you feel bad about it. No is all the argument you need. | 1 | 5,952 | 2.2 |
4b6093 | legaladvice_train | 0.86 | My dad wants me to register a car in my name and insure it as well, I think this is a terrible idea and need help explaining why [NY] His license was suspended for child support issues, but he resolved them last year. When he went to get his license back, the DMV told him that would not be possible to his numerous DWIs (3~?). His last one occurred 10 years ago (so he claims, but he could be lying!), but I guess NYS looks back 25 years when making the decision to reinstate a license. Now he needs a car for his job. I and someone else have been providing him with rides for the past year, but the other driver quit after constant mistreatment. I myself am close to that point but I know he will lose his job if I don't help. His solution? He wants to buy a car and put the registration ans insurance in my name, and probably the title too. Am I correct in saying I would be legally liable even if my dad were driving this car? If he hits and injures (or possibly kills) someone, couldn't they sue me? I am 99% sure the insurance would not even cover an accident when the driver has a suspended license. Can I even insure someone with a suspended license? Please help, my dad is treating me terribly, and if I don't do this or drive him around every day he justs makes me feel like crap. I just need a solid, logical argument as to why this is all a terrible idea so he will leave me alone about it. | d16dl0x | d16k8mi | 1,458,444,468 | 1,458,462,949 | 5 | 6 | Being related doesn't mean you have to fix his mistakes. He committed several DWIs and the loss of his licence is due to that. Don't commit a crime yourself because he makes you feel bad about it. No is all the argument you need. | This man "treats you terribly" and "makes you feel like crap". Just because someone is family doesn't mean you have to take their abuse. Absolutely not to the question. I'd also think about putting some distance between you and your father until he can't treat you with the respect you deserve. No more rides until that happens. | 0 | 18,481 | 1.2 |
1y143d | legaladvice_train | 0.83 | Bank gave my personal account information to my unauthorized snoopy spouse. Do I have any recourse? [AZ] I have a personal account at a fairly large credit union. My spouse and I, though not legally separated, are in the process of doing so. While we have a joint account at the same credit union, I also have a personal savings and checking account with them. My spouse decided to inquire into my transaction history and succeeded. Spouse did not have my pin number, access code, or password and yet ascertained the information sought out. This has been a cause of great contention and I wish to discover my legal options against the bank and/or the individual for divulging this information without my knowledge. I cannot change the action, but I seek to right the wrong if possible. | cfggn0d | cfgotib | 1,392,524,289 | 1,392,562,103 | 8 | 9 | You do not have enough information to go forward or you are leaving out some things. How did she get access? Did she just call/talk to someone or was it automated? Did ascertain the information on her own accord? What did she learn? Did she learn of the contents of the single account or just the transactions from the joint to another account? (She may very well have rightful access to that information). Just alot of unknowns. If you are seeking a dissolution of marriage and are worried about money I would retain and attorney. Share with them your concerns and go from there. | Provided your spouse does not hold a valid power of attorney from you, that is a violation of Federal privacy laws. A financial institution can only give out account information to the account owner(s), or someone with a valid power of attorney. Please file a complaint with the cfpb (cfpb.gov) and the AZ attorney general. editing to add: I have worked for a very very large financial institution. Giving out, even looking up, account information for someone not named on the account was grounds for termination. | 0 | 37,814 | 1.125 |
pikyjq | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | [OR] Is it legal for me to transfer or withdraw all available money from a joint bank account that was made with my parents before I was 18? I am over 18. It is filled with my savings from my work. If I am able to remove it all with a cashiers check or transfer it all, would they have any legal claim on it as they technically hold joint ownership over the account? All money was earned through work or given as gifts, it is my personal account. Would they be able to take me to small claims court? the amount is over 5k. | hbqhtiy | hbqczxr | 1,630,878,515 | 1,630,876,272 | 85 | 45 | As others have said, yes you can withdraw the entire amount, however... >Would they be able to take me to small claims court? Yes. There is nothing stopping them from suing to get the funds back from you. They would need to prove that the funds came from them to succeed, but any court action can be tedious and time-consuming. Be sure to keep records of where the funds came from. | If its joint either owner can withdraw all the money or close the account at any time. That is one of the risks/benefits of a joint account. Once the money is in there it becomes every one's who is on the account. | 1 | 2,243 | 1.888889 |
pikyjq | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | [OR] Is it legal for me to transfer or withdraw all available money from a joint bank account that was made with my parents before I was 18? I am over 18. It is filled with my savings from my work. If I am able to remove it all with a cashiers check or transfer it all, would they have any legal claim on it as they technically hold joint ownership over the account? All money was earned through work or given as gifts, it is my personal account. Would they be able to take me to small claims court? the amount is over 5k. | hbqvbog | hbr64ij | 1,630,885,103 | 1,630,890,400 | 7 | 11 | >If I am able to remove it all with a cashiers check or transfer it all, Easiest to just go to the bank and ask for cash. Except if you still live with your parents and they find the cash, they could take it. | Withdraw the $$ before they know you’re leaving. Good luck OP. | 0 | 5,297 | 1.571429 |
heg6pj | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Employer directly deposited a bonus into my bank account and now says I must stay with the company for a year or pay the bonus back in full. State of Ohio I did not ask for the bonus and I did not sign any paper work agreeing to stay for a year to receive the bonus and I might be leaving the company soon for a better opportunity. Can they legally force me to pay back the full amount? How does that even work when the bonus was taxed so I only got a portion of it? ​ Can they force me to pay it back? | fvr03eu | fvr891i | 1,592,924,893 | 1,592,928,926 | 94 | 158 | > I did not ask for the bonus When the money appeared in your account did you have any idea what it was for? Had you discussed bonuses? Why are they calling it a bonus? Generally speaking deposits made in error have to be repaid. | \> Can they legally force me to pay back the full amount? Does your employee handbook state anything about bonus programs? Was the bonus made under one of those programs? Do the have the means to claw it back (Do they still owe you money? If not, is the amount large enough to be worth going to court for?) \> How does that even work when the bonus was taxed so I only got a portion of it? If you are forced to pay it back, you will report less income at the end of the year, and you will receive a larger tax refund to cover the amount that was withheld. They could also refund the withholding but that math there is complicated so they probably won't. | 0 | 4,033 | 1.680851 |
heg6pj | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Employer directly deposited a bonus into my bank account and now says I must stay with the company for a year or pay the bonus back in full. State of Ohio I did not ask for the bonus and I did not sign any paper work agreeing to stay for a year to receive the bonus and I might be leaving the company soon for a better opportunity. Can they legally force me to pay back the full amount? How does that even work when the bonus was taxed so I only got a portion of it? ​ Can they force me to pay it back? | fvqzomv | fvr891i | 1,592,924,681 | 1,592,928,926 | 20 | 158 | When did they pay it to you? Did you inquire at the time what that bonus was for? | \> Can they legally force me to pay back the full amount? Does your employee handbook state anything about bonus programs? Was the bonus made under one of those programs? Do the have the means to claw it back (Do they still owe you money? If not, is the amount large enough to be worth going to court for?) \> How does that even work when the bonus was taxed so I only got a portion of it? If you are forced to pay it back, you will report less income at the end of the year, and you will receive a larger tax refund to cover the amount that was withheld. They could also refund the withholding but that math there is complicated so they probably won't. | 0 | 4,245 | 7.9 |
heg6pj | legaladvice_train | 0.97 | Employer directly deposited a bonus into my bank account and now says I must stay with the company for a year or pay the bonus back in full. State of Ohio I did not ask for the bonus and I did not sign any paper work agreeing to stay for a year to receive the bonus and I might be leaving the company soon for a better opportunity. Can they legally force me to pay back the full amount? How does that even work when the bonus was taxed so I only got a portion of it? ​ Can they force me to pay it back? | fvqzomv | fvr03eu | 1,592,924,681 | 1,592,924,893 | 20 | 94 | When did they pay it to you? Did you inquire at the time what that bonus was for? | > I did not ask for the bonus When the money appeared in your account did you have any idea what it was for? Had you discussed bonuses? Why are they calling it a bonus? Generally speaking deposits made in error have to be repaid. | 0 | 212 | 4.7 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwh8pc | fzvysii | 1,596,223,006 | 1,596,216,547 | 534 | 123 | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | Have you contacted the school bursar office? It was their mistake | 1 | 6,459 | 4.341463 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw9k3r | fzwh8pc | 1,596,220,188 | 1,596,223,006 | 83 | 534 | Frankly, with how combative they are being, do not give them cash. You want a trackable method of money transfer, just to prevent them from claiming you never gave them the money. | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | 0 | 2,818 | 6.433735 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwh8pc | fzvz3bt | 1,596,223,006 | 1,596,216,650 | 534 | 40 | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | Call your school since it was their fault, see if you can wire the money back to them and they can issue the refund to the right person. Inform the dad and if he wants his money he'll have to talk to the school. | 1 | 6,356 | 13.35 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwh8pc | fzwgoa5 | 1,596,223,006 | 1,596,222,762 | 534 | 15 | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | Don’t pay him at all. You need to refund the school. Otherwise, the school can and will take the money back from you and give it to your roommate. You’ll be out double the money. | 1 | 244 | 35.6 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwd9p7 | fzwh8pc | 1,596,221,451 | 1,596,223,006 | 9 | 534 | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | 0 | 1,555 | 59.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzwh8pc | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,223,006 | 4 | 534 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | 0 | 3,983 | 133.5 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzwh8pc | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,223,006 | 3 | 534 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | Do not transfer any money to him by any method. Call your bank, and ask them to *reverse* the transaction. Call your school and ask for the same. If you initiate a *new* transfer to him, and then the other transaction is reversed, you will lose a bunch of your own money, and may have a very hard time getting it back. Leave the money in your account until your bank takes it out. No, you are absolutely not legally obliged to drive to him to give him cash. This is a mistake the school made, and you're not liable for the consequences; it's between him and the school and between the school and you. Just don't spend the money in the interim. Good luck! | 0 | 5,973 | 178 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw9k3r | fzvz3bt | 1,596,220,188 | 1,596,216,650 | 83 | 40 | Frankly, with how combative they are being, do not give them cash. You want a trackable method of money transfer, just to prevent them from claiming you never gave them the money. | Call your school since it was their fault, see if you can wire the money back to them and they can issue the refund to the right person. Inform the dad and if he wants his money he'll have to talk to the school. | 1 | 3,538 | 2.075 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw9k3r | fzw5sbz | 1,596,220,188 | 1,596,219,023 | 83 | 4 | Frankly, with how combative they are being, do not give them cash. You want a trackable method of money transfer, just to prevent them from claiming you never gave them the money. | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | 1 | 1,165 | 20.75 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw9k3r | fzw0555 | 1,596,220,188 | 1,596,217,033 | 83 | 3 | Frankly, with how combative they are being, do not give them cash. You want a trackable method of money transfer, just to prevent them from claiming you never gave them the money. | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | 1 | 3,155 | 27.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwpbm6 | fzvz3bt | 1,596,226,900 | 1,596,216,650 | 48 | 40 | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | Call your school since it was their fault, see if you can wire the money back to them and they can issue the refund to the right person. Inform the dad and if he wants his money he'll have to talk to the school. | 1 | 10,250 | 1.2 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwm8aq | fzwpbm6 | 1,596,225,323 | 1,596,226,900 | 35 | 48 | In case all the other comments didn't make it clear, this man is behaving incredibly sketchily and is attempting to bully you, most likely because you're young and he thinks he can get extra money out of the situation. (I.E., it's not supposed to be his money to begin with, or you pay and he still puts in a claim with the school, or you pay and he sues you claiming you never paid, etc.) Pay him nothing, block all contact, and contact your bank to have the deposit reversed, and once the money leaves your account you never have to think about it again. | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | 0 | 1,577 | 1.371429 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwgoa5 | fzwpbm6 | 1,596,222,762 | 1,596,226,900 | 15 | 48 | Don’t pay him at all. You need to refund the school. Otherwise, the school can and will take the money back from you and give it to your roommate. You’ll be out double the money. | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | 0 | 4,138 | 3.2 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwd9p7 | fzwpbm6 | 1,596,221,451 | 1,596,226,900 | 9 | 48 | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | 0 | 5,449 | 5.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwpbm6 | fzwn60z | 1,596,226,900 | 1,596,225,798 | 48 | 6 | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | I might also suggest that any further communication be by email so that there is a paper trail. | 1 | 1,102 | 8 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwpbm6 | fzw5sbz | 1,596,226,900 | 1,596,219,023 | 48 | 4 | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | 1 | 7,877 | 12 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzwpbm6 | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,226,900 | 3 | 48 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | Whoah . . . Don't do any of that. You have your bank undo the erroneous electronic transfer. Your bank sends the money back to the college, then the college will send it to where it belongs. Do not give cash, do not give a personal check, do not give a money order, do not create a brand new transfer. Good Luck. | 0 | 9,867 | 16 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwm8aq | fzwgoa5 | 1,596,225,323 | 1,596,222,762 | 35 | 15 | In case all the other comments didn't make it clear, this man is behaving incredibly sketchily and is attempting to bully you, most likely because you're young and he thinks he can get extra money out of the situation. (I.E., it's not supposed to be his money to begin with, or you pay and he still puts in a claim with the school, or you pay and he sues you claiming you never paid, etc.) Pay him nothing, block all contact, and contact your bank to have the deposit reversed, and once the money leaves your account you never have to think about it again. | Don’t pay him at all. You need to refund the school. Otherwise, the school can and will take the money back from you and give it to your roommate. You’ll be out double the money. | 1 | 2,561 | 2.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwd9p7 | fzwm8aq | 1,596,221,451 | 1,596,225,323 | 9 | 35 | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | In case all the other comments didn't make it clear, this man is behaving incredibly sketchily and is attempting to bully you, most likely because you're young and he thinks he can get extra money out of the situation. (I.E., it's not supposed to be his money to begin with, or you pay and he still puts in a claim with the school, or you pay and he sues you claiming you never paid, etc.) Pay him nothing, block all contact, and contact your bank to have the deposit reversed, and once the money leaves your account you never have to think about it again. | 0 | 3,872 | 3.888889 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzwm8aq | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,225,323 | 4 | 35 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | In case all the other comments didn't make it clear, this man is behaving incredibly sketchily and is attempting to bully you, most likely because you're young and he thinks he can get extra money out of the situation. (I.E., it's not supposed to be his money to begin with, or you pay and he still puts in a claim with the school, or you pay and he sues you claiming you never paid, etc.) Pay him nothing, block all contact, and contact your bank to have the deposit reversed, and once the money leaves your account you never have to think about it again. | 0 | 6,300 | 8.75 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzwm8aq | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,225,323 | 3 | 35 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | In case all the other comments didn't make it clear, this man is behaving incredibly sketchily and is attempting to bully you, most likely because you're young and he thinks he can get extra money out of the situation. (I.E., it's not supposed to be his money to begin with, or you pay and he still puts in a claim with the school, or you pay and he sues you claiming you never paid, etc.) Pay him nothing, block all contact, and contact your bank to have the deposit reversed, and once the money leaves your account you never have to think about it again. | 0 | 8,290 | 11.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwgoa5 | fzwd9p7 | 1,596,222,762 | 1,596,221,451 | 15 | 9 | Don’t pay him at all. You need to refund the school. Otherwise, the school can and will take the money back from you and give it to your roommate. You’ll be out double the money. | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | 1 | 1,311 | 1.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzwgoa5 | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,222,762 | 4 | 15 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | Don’t pay him at all. You need to refund the school. Otherwise, the school can and will take the money back from you and give it to your roommate. You’ll be out double the money. | 0 | 3,739 | 3.75 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwgoa5 | fzw0555 | 1,596,222,762 | 1,596,217,033 | 15 | 3 | Don’t pay him at all. You need to refund the school. Otherwise, the school can and will take the money back from you and give it to your roommate. You’ll be out double the money. | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | 1 | 5,729 | 5 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwd9p7 | fzwrx38 | 1,596,221,451 | 1,596,228,121 | 9 | 14 | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | First of all, don’t touch the money; not even to pay this guy. It’s not your money, but it’s not his, either; it’s the schools. If the school notices they gave you extra, they can and will deduct that amount from your account. Don’t use it to pay rent, don’t use it to pay this guy, don’t put it in savings. Leave it intact, where it is. Keep telling the guy to call the school; it is THEIR problem, not his and certainly not yours. What I suspect will happen (if everything happens as it should...) is that the money will be deducted from your account and put into the correct account. The school shouldn’t ask you to pay him, or to pay them back with a check, or anything that isn’t them deducting the transaction. You shouldn’t even know about what happens after that, because once it’s out of your account it’s none of your business. Just keep telling him to call the school. I really doubt he’ll actually sue you, because any lawyer he would retain would tell him it’s the schools problem. If he actually does sue you, get a lawyer yourself. Any lawyer worth his degree would be able to get you out of that situation, because the problem is with the school, not with you. It’s not your job to fix whatever clerical error happened, and while it may not be your money, he’s not legally entitled to get it from anywhere other than the school. Good luck! | 0 | 6,670 | 1.555556 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwrx38 | fzwn60z | 1,596,228,121 | 1,596,225,798 | 14 | 6 | First of all, don’t touch the money; not even to pay this guy. It’s not your money, but it’s not his, either; it’s the schools. If the school notices they gave you extra, they can and will deduct that amount from your account. Don’t use it to pay rent, don’t use it to pay this guy, don’t put it in savings. Leave it intact, where it is. Keep telling the guy to call the school; it is THEIR problem, not his and certainly not yours. What I suspect will happen (if everything happens as it should...) is that the money will be deducted from your account and put into the correct account. The school shouldn’t ask you to pay him, or to pay them back with a check, or anything that isn’t them deducting the transaction. You shouldn’t even know about what happens after that, because once it’s out of your account it’s none of your business. Just keep telling him to call the school. I really doubt he’ll actually sue you, because any lawyer he would retain would tell him it’s the schools problem. If he actually does sue you, get a lawyer yourself. Any lawyer worth his degree would be able to get you out of that situation, because the problem is with the school, not with you. It’s not your job to fix whatever clerical error happened, and while it may not be your money, he’s not legally entitled to get it from anywhere other than the school. Good luck! | I might also suggest that any further communication be by email so that there is a paper trail. | 1 | 2,323 | 2.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwrx38 | fzw5sbz | 1,596,228,121 | 1,596,219,023 | 14 | 4 | First of all, don’t touch the money; not even to pay this guy. It’s not your money, but it’s not his, either; it’s the schools. If the school notices they gave you extra, they can and will deduct that amount from your account. Don’t use it to pay rent, don’t use it to pay this guy, don’t put it in savings. Leave it intact, where it is. Keep telling the guy to call the school; it is THEIR problem, not his and certainly not yours. What I suspect will happen (if everything happens as it should...) is that the money will be deducted from your account and put into the correct account. The school shouldn’t ask you to pay him, or to pay them back with a check, or anything that isn’t them deducting the transaction. You shouldn’t even know about what happens after that, because once it’s out of your account it’s none of your business. Just keep telling him to call the school. I really doubt he’ll actually sue you, because any lawyer he would retain would tell him it’s the schools problem. If he actually does sue you, get a lawyer yourself. Any lawyer worth his degree would be able to get you out of that situation, because the problem is with the school, not with you. It’s not your job to fix whatever clerical error happened, and while it may not be your money, he’s not legally entitled to get it from anywhere other than the school. Good luck! | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | 1 | 9,098 | 3.5 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzwrx38 | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,228,121 | 3 | 14 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | First of all, don’t touch the money; not even to pay this guy. It’s not your money, but it’s not his, either; it’s the schools. If the school notices they gave you extra, they can and will deduct that amount from your account. Don’t use it to pay rent, don’t use it to pay this guy, don’t put it in savings. Leave it intact, where it is. Keep telling the guy to call the school; it is THEIR problem, not his and certainly not yours. What I suspect will happen (if everything happens as it should...) is that the money will be deducted from your account and put into the correct account. The school shouldn’t ask you to pay him, or to pay them back with a check, or anything that isn’t them deducting the transaction. You shouldn’t even know about what happens after that, because once it’s out of your account it’s none of your business. Just keep telling him to call the school. I really doubt he’ll actually sue you, because any lawyer he would retain would tell him it’s the schools problem. If he actually does sue you, get a lawyer yourself. Any lawyer worth his degree would be able to get you out of that situation, because the problem is with the school, not with you. It’s not your job to fix whatever clerical error happened, and while it may not be your money, he’s not legally entitled to get it from anywhere other than the school. Good luck! | 0 | 11,088 | 4.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzwd9p7 | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,221,451 | 4 | 9 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | 0 | 2,428 | 2.25 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzwd9p7 | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,221,451 | 3 | 9 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | Don’t give him the money any way. Inform the sender and give it back to them and let him go after them for it. They might try and rectify their mistake later and then you’ll have to prove you gave it to him. He could already be pursuing it that way and that’s why he’s asked for cash | 0 | 4,418 | 3 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzxbnvh | fzwn60z | 1,596,234,813 | 1,596,225,798 | 8 | 6 | The school burser should be able and have the ability to reverse the transaction. If they refuse to do that thats on them. Dont spend any of the money though until it is all resolved | I might also suggest that any further communication be by email so that there is a paper trail. | 1 | 9,015 | 1.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwn60z | fzw5sbz | 1,596,225,798 | 1,596,219,023 | 6 | 4 | I might also suggest that any further communication be by email so that there is a paper trail. | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | 1 | 6,775 | 1.5 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzxkhd3 | fzwn60z | 1,596,238,754 | 1,596,225,798 | 7 | 6 | Perhaps I missed this, but how did you become aware that the money was meant for your roommate? How did he become aware that you possessed it? If my suspicions are correct, it seems like the school is liable for FERPA violations, among other things. | I might also suggest that any further communication be by email so that there is a paper trail. | 1 | 12,956 | 1.166667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzwn60z | fzw0555 | 1,596,225,798 | 1,596,217,033 | 6 | 3 | I might also suggest that any further communication be by email so that there is a paper trail. | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | 1 | 8,765 | 2 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzxbnvh | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,234,813 | 4 | 8 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | The school burser should be able and have the ability to reverse the transaction. If they refuse to do that thats on them. Dont spend any of the money though until it is all resolved | 0 | 15,790 | 2 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzxbnvh | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,234,813 | 3 | 8 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | The school burser should be able and have the ability to reverse the transaction. If they refuse to do that thats on them. Dont spend any of the money though until it is all resolved | 0 | 17,780 | 2.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzxkhd3 | fzw5sbz | 1,596,238,754 | 1,596,219,023 | 7 | 4 | Perhaps I missed this, but how did you become aware that the money was meant for your roommate? How did he become aware that you possessed it? If my suspicions are correct, it seems like the school is liable for FERPA violations, among other things. | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | 1 | 19,731 | 1.75 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzyef86 | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,256,625 | 4 | 5 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | >I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. How did he "know" the money was in **your** account? | 0 | 37,602 | 1.25 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw5sbz | fzw0555 | 1,596,219,023 | 1,596,217,033 | 4 | 3 | Agree with the advice to let the bank handle it, especially if hsi account is with the same bank. AFA recording, while SC is a single-party consent state, make sure that he is also in a single-party consent state if you record the call. | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | 1 | 1,990 | 1.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzxfmiu | fzxkhd3 | 1,596,236,424 | 1,596,238,754 | 3 | 7 | Dont do it you will end up in a mess. Contact the sender and give it to them and make sure you document everything. | Perhaps I missed this, but how did you become aware that the money was meant for your roommate? How did he become aware that you possessed it? If my suspicions are correct, it seems like the school is liable for FERPA violations, among other things. | 0 | 2,330 | 2.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzxkhd3 | fzw0555 | 1,596,238,754 | 1,596,217,033 | 7 | 3 | Perhaps I missed this, but how did you become aware that the money was meant for your roommate? How did he become aware that you possessed it? If my suspicions are correct, it seems like the school is liable for FERPA violations, among other things. | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | 1 | 21,721 | 2.333333 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzxfmiu | fzyef86 | 1,596,236,424 | 1,596,256,625 | 3 | 5 | Dont do it you will end up in a mess. Contact the sender and give it to them and make sure you document everything. | >I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. How did he "know" the money was in **your** account? | 0 | 20,201 | 1.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzy95e8 | fzyef86 | 1,596,253,027 | 1,596,256,625 | 3 | 5 | The error is between you and the school as well as the school and your roommate. Work with the school to get the overpayment back to them. Then they can refund the money to your roommate. Don’t give money to your roommate or their parent. | >I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. How did he "know" the money was in **your** account? | 0 | 3,598 | 1.666667 |
i1blfk | legaladvice_train | 0.95 | Money was accidentally deposited into my bank account, the intended receiver now demands it back in cash. South Carolina. Due to corona, all college students at my college got refund checks as direct deposits; reimbursing us for our second semester housing costs. My suite mates refund was deposited into my account along with my own due to a school error. I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. I know the money is not mine and I have no right to keep it and have no intention of keeping it. The problem is he lives far away, far enough where I don’t want to go there to give him cash. I have explained to him I am willing to either transfer the money through our banks or some other way without having personal contact with him but he just isn’t having it. He has threatened to take me to court when I have been as helpful as I can to him. Should I record a call between us of him declining the money via transfer or any other way to prove to somebody that I am not refusing to pay him? What steps should I take. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | fzw0555 | fzyef86 | 1,596,217,033 | 1,596,256,625 | 3 | 5 | Agreed with other suggestions. You have every right to ask for a traceable method of paying him back, whether that be through a wire, check, money order, or app payment. Do NOT pay in cash, tell him that you will not pay in cash, and he can take you to court. He will have to file a small claims petition in your jurisdiction, not his. Good idea with the recording. Also, the check should presumably be made out to your suite mate, NOT the father. Something about this seems sketchy. Why is he demanding cash? No check, venmo, etc.? Have you spoken to your suite mate? I would make sure 100% that the father is not trying to take his son's money. Parents of college-aged students pull shit like that surprisingly often. | >I never noticed it until his father called me demanding the money back in cash. How did he "know" the money was in **your** account? | 0 | 39,592 | 1.666667 |
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