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the name of the band is grandchildren ummm
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oh okay i don't know if i've ever actually seen you guys but i've heard of you a bunch of times
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yeah we we've been around for a while we also run the danger danger gallery and stuff like that and i've yeah uhhh
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really go there that much anymore
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and i was also in rad racket
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ummm but yeah uhhh speaking of touring uhhh i'm just getting over like the
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travel exhaustion and you know kind of getting back home and getting my bearings back so have you traveled a lot what where have you traveled and what do you get out of traveling why do you like it
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i'm a sagetarian
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i was vegetarian
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what does that mean
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born to travel ummm
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i i really like leaving the country ummm so when i was younger i would just work a lot or do whatever and get a bunch of money and then
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so i went to asia a lot because i have ummm extended family there
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ummm so i've been to like hong kong i have family in hong kong which is like a major like transport hub so a lot of times when you go to other places in asia you can like get a transfer there or something but uhhh so i've been to like thailand and cambodia
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gone to hong kong a fair amount
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canada
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went to peru
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so mostly it sounds like around asia ummm
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yeah i lived in hong kong for a while i i ummm i worked in the antique business for a while
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restoring antiques
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i worked there for a while
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nice ummm is that something you uhhh would ever like to continue doing or
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because i really like doing the work but uhhh in order to get a job at a museum you have to be highly highly educated and the programs are all science based they're not really arts based and in private industry you just have to be able to make it
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you know so but i think when i also worked in new yorking antiques and ummm
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ummm
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and it kind of it really sucked there because it was all just like stupid like rich assholes that would like have wine and cheese party and someone would like knock over their face and you'd have to restore it and i was just like this is such a stupid job and hong kong i mean it was much more interesting because a lot of the stuff would just like come in a box of like dirt and it was all funary pottery
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and you know there'd just be like twelve shattered figurts that were basically ident identical but they'd all you know obviously smashed in different patterns and so my job was to clean all the dirt off and ummm
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like you clean clean all the dirt off and then figure out which pieces went to which
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put them together and then whatever pieces had like turned into powder or whatever i'd have to make new it was like doing like a huge three puzzle and i really liked it and i i like to paint but i like to make things that are like really like fine and delicate you know
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ummm
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so doing that kind of work was i was really good at it and i really enjoyed it it was like really meditative i would just like sit there although it did hurt my neck i would sit there for hours and just make like i was like pattern recognition because the stuff would get worn underground you know in these different patterns so i would have to look it and say like okay well there's like these size buckles that are this color and there's these size buckles that are this color and then there was like a root that grew along it and it made this weird thing but then the new piece that i made doesn't have this ruot mark so i have to so i would just be lost all day just like listening to music and like making little dots it was really nice but
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i would love it if i could work in a museum but i don't i don't really have a science background so not that it's impossible i'm sure i could eventually pull it off but
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ummm yeah i can identify with the feeling of i i i also enjoy like very mediculous work that might take a long time ummm but yeah uhhh what do you do at penn now
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i'm a research coordinator for the school of medicine
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does that require is that like getting funding from sponsors or is that more so like managing the actual
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it's like your job except it's i mean they're they're medical like social and behavioral like medical studies we're not like testing drugs on anyone or anything it's just ummm
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the study that i work on is about like genetics and like dosing algorithms for drugs so it's all observvational but yeah and i work at the veteran's hospital site which is a very interesting place to work
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i like it but i am quitting my last day is christmas eve
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why are you quitting
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the people i work with are not very nice not the people at the ve but the penn people that i work with
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and what do you plan to do
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ummm
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well i ummm
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i got a new computer and i got a new microphone
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i want to record a bunch of music and clean my house and like you know go for walks outside and stuff instead of sitting in the dark all day
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understandable ummm alright well we should move on to the transcript reading portion
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going to be the same as it always
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i know roasted for good
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i love their sentences actually it makes me feel really disoiented yeah it's weird have you ever done it before
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really
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did you didn't feel disoiented
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i
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administer them all day so i kind of have gotten used to them uhhh yeah i mean we've i i worked on the previous phases of this project as well so i've been administering sentences to people for years and now it's kind of normal to me so when i read it i just like
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oh so you did that first and then you did it
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know what to expect i don't know it's different
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ummm but are you ready
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all right so first off we usually like to get a sense of uhhh your linguistic upbringing ummm so you were born in indiana and then where have you lived since then
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uhhh south florida for the most part but i've lived all over the country south florida
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uhhh central florida orlando gainsville back to indiana and south bend
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las vegas for ten years mempus for six years here for six years phoenix for four years
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for the past six years
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oxford mississippi for three years
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so you've been in a lot of places excellent uhhh what what are what are your some of your favorite places that you've lived so far
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yeah
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vegas probably yeah if it weren't for x was i'd still be there but if it weren't for x lives i'd still be there
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really
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uhhh what attracted you i've i've been to vegas once but what attracted you
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well i got a job off i was a federal public defender out in uhhh in las vegas for for a couple years and i was in private practice for the rest of the time
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vegas and nice county vegas and nice county which is suburban next door
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what's that
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right right ummm so where does the film and radio come in
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oh i ran for office a couple of times i've always been politically active that's basically all i do now is uhhh work on political campaigns uhhh either before i went to law school i worked with jobs that uhhh in public administration or education that uhhh required me to do interview talk shows that sort of that sort of thing
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uhhh do you like doing that sort of
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oh yeah i'm a i'm a ham i sing karaoke once or twice a week and uhhh i've been in four movies or did one episode of it's always sunny in philadelphia of course they won't let me talk in that but just as a background actor but yeah i like public speaking i always have
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yeah ummm how about uhhh
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have you ever run for have you ever uhhh held office besides public defender or like any
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well i'm a state public defender uhhh i was uhhh the uhhh the director of the uhhh palm beachy division of senior services which is a government it's a joint federal state uhhh or state actually joint federal county
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uhhh department uhhh for senior senior center it's funded by the older americans act you've got them here but ours was all it was all government run and it was all in one one big program as here you've got independent little branches that are run by nonprofits
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yeah the two times i ran for elected office i lost so which is one of the reasons i'm here
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what what uhhh position in electrical office
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i well i ran for a districtorny in ky county and uhhh
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in uhhh ninety eight i think it was and
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i don't know what i was thinking you know i think i was drunk most of the time out there got married twice and uhhh and ran for districtorny against an incumbant member of my own party i don't know what the hell i was thinking about that so i did pretty well though uhhh the other time i ran for uhhh justice court judge which is equivalent to uhhh
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to your uhhh
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county court or or uhhh muniple court judge i suppose uhhh here and uhhh that was a disaster that was a it was a nonpartisan election but it turned out to be highly political and uhhh it was just awful there was nothing wrong left of my practice by the time i was done with the campaign after losing and uhhh which
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then i went my mother was sick and then i went back so i went back to south florida why am i just telling you that that wasn't the question but right
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uhhh if you keep talking that's good they were just trying to illicit speech
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yeah well well i went back to florida to take care of my mother who was had uhhh cancer and then she died in uhhh in two thousand two i went back to mempus and worked on the death penalty case for a year or so and then uhhh i came out here to work for dupont who
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who screwed me and then on an applate matter and then i
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i have it left and i've been doing mostly political stuff from that point i'll do a little legal stuff from time to time but uhhh mostly it's uhhh campaigning for more progressive causes and candidates i'm a communist in real life but yeah but democrats are close enough that's as close as i'm going to get
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how do you feel as a political outliar in this society because i i wouldn't say that i have any sort of political affilation at this point i mean i vote democrat by default uhhh but i i wouldn't consider myself a democrat in fact i find myself more and more listening to anarchists and finding resonance in what they say so maybe that makes me an anarchist i don't know
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yeah
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or niilist one of the one of the two yeah
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hmmm ummm but how do you feel politically as
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no i i really am a i really am a marchist and the i say the core of all problems in this country domestic international
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ummm are all rootated in economics in particularly the way that people are that uhhh that wealth is distributed in this country the problem in the western world it gets worse all the time it's been going on since futalism collapsed the problem with capitalism is it uhhh uhhh it values persons in terms of what they own not what they do as uhhh
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the the ibalance grows between the wealthy and the and the working and working people the less important labor is i mean why do you pay rent in advance but you get paid after you do the work
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you know because no one values labor in this country when in fact as mark said uhhh i believe that the only thing that has value is labor
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