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uhhh racism uhhh well is real is a creation of uhhh the ownership class in order to keep us at each other's throats and away from theirs so people who talk about racism in this country white or black just irritate the hell out of me african american what the fuck does that mean i mean what does african american mean does it mean egyptian does it mean that your parents came from africa no does it mean that your ancestors came from all of our anncestors came from africa it's a meaningless nonsense term to isolate a particular group of people which is a minor eleven percent of the population who cares you know i don't think that we should be looking at people that way anyhow and telling them that somehow they're special
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ex wife my third was mother of my children is black i used to say was black but she still is and my children i'm very close to in fact i'm trying to get my son to move out he's in vegas he's in the armying trying to get him to move out here to get him into school and my daughter lives right over the river and i'm very close to my children when anyone asks what i've taught them is when anyone asks what your race is say what i do which is short distances only you know the point i'm making too big of a deal out but i think it's important because it is as i say one of the major factors to distract working people and to keep them from uniting by saying no it's called done white didn't do shit i didn't do anything i never owned any slaves no one i know owned any slaves your ancestors were slaves so were mine you know i'm irish you know everybody's was slavery is not four hundred years old where they get that number is beyond me but slaver is not four hundred years old anyway slavery is ten thousand years old there's always been slaves it's a function humanity or civilization not humans but civilization or just civilizations have always depended to one degree or another on slavery and if you look at it really what's happening in in capitalist countries is that they're still depending on slavery that would be us that to keep us from starving to death countries but that's all you know when in the meantime you've got people like bill gates with you know how long it would take to spend a billion dollars if you spent a dollar a second if you spend a dollar a second twenty four seven you know how long it would take you to spend a billion dollars thirty years he's got fifty billion dollars what is how do we allow that what is the point of that
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how long
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not to mention i mean he's his uhhh his fortune is also based off of things that he didn't create but instead marketed and made money off of like
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well i don't care about that anything that's a product of someone's labor that's fine but he's got he's controlling resources he can't possibly use
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right well and and i was i was mely saying his his programs are based off of like steve jobs and even steve jobs' stuff is based off of the unix programming like all that stuff is based off of one guy and that guy's not making any money off of it because he made it free
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yeah well it's no longer a product of his labor now it's a product of his ownership he owns the rights to it and that's how he's making money and that's what i say is uhhh is wrong it's just it's wrong and uhhh uhhh that was a rather strangeed analogy to say that what what slavery really is the point there still is slavery so it ain't whiteies fault because there are black capitalists that are just as bad
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yeah
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i i mean i think racism in this country has progressed to a point where it's much
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different now than it used to be obviously and i think it's continually getting to be more of a background issue
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well except you've still got people like you've still got people the n a cpp as an organization threatening to demonstrator protest over a football player who killed a bunch of dogs who the hell cares i mean you know really why would the n a cp be interested in that they're everything gets converted into a race issue it's not a race issue it has to do with a criminal you know who was particularly abusive to animals and a lot of people get including me get very upset by that but you know as to whether he should be allowed to play football i don't see why not i mean he served his time all right so what so
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oh yeah
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as long as he's not around as far as i know the dogs are not involved in football games i i don't i don't know if i'd want him at the mississippi state or the university of georgia near the mascot but uhhh
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but otherwise but the point is why would the cp get involved in that that's just stupid i mean you can understand peta and those those people are crazy by the way uhhh because i always tell i have some friends that are involved in that i said i belong to peta too people for the eating of tasty animals that's the way we're supposed to we're supposed to consume meat and uhhh you get sick if you don't eat meat uhhh and that's whatever i mean i don't
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i can't imagine actually going out and killing a cow
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you know that would be horrible i used to have family picnics where we would get a a roast a whole pig every year and somebody would have to go get the pig and kill it and butcher it and all that it wasn't me
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uhhh
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other things are good if you cook them right
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so are turkeys and and uhhh salmon i mean do salmon have feelings too i mean confined these these these people get all upset about what's done to certain animals but not all animals i mean they're they're real quick to stomp on cockroes but then you then they they whine you know what's the difference between a cockroach and a cow or and a human for that matter not much fewmes here and there that's not much so you know be consistent
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so it's and there are there are cultures by the way i mean in uhhh in uhhha and other parts of the of south asia there there are sects of hinduism and jainism i think it's the jainists are the ones who do this who actually when they walk down the street will carry a brroom with them and sweep the sidewalk constantly in front of them so as not to step on accidentally step on a
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if you want to get ridiculous about it or it's like uhhh let's say at the comedian dick gregrory you remember him dick gregrory was
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he's like is close to eighty my now but he was a black comedian and a uhhh at one time was a black power type person that's back in the sixties or early seventies but he became a uhhh vegetarian and then someone pointed out to him that he was murdering innocent crops and stuff so he became a fruiterian because you can pick the fruit but it doesn't kill the tree so well maybe but do individual tomatoes attack of a killer tomatoes individual tomatoes have feelings i mean i don't know i don't speak tomato but uhhh i can't really can't really ask for it so there's this other clown is actually he actually wrote a book he calls himself a brretharian he says he can live without consuming without consuming any kind of food
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he says he hasn't eaten anything in twenty years or something he can just by controlling his mind he can live off breathing the air
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yeah claims to he's been on spaceships too but so anyway
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ummm
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i was going to ask a question but we only have like a minute and i think the question would take too long to answer uhhh so what what are some of the causes that you've uhhh been campaigning for
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well i it's it's more candidates i work for but of course it's radically different last year i worked for for hillary clinton in indianapolis and i worked for ralph nader in pittsburgh and then i worked for ron paul this part of pennsylvania the eastern part of pennsylvania i worked for ron paul because i was making six hundred dollars a day that that's an incentive to be a little bit more open minded on your politic and plus he's not that crazy i mean he's got some ideas that that aren't that crazy most of them are but uhhh he's essentially a libertarian and i got to meet a lot of those people i hope to be right now i'm working on the cap and trade bill it's we're just getting people to send in postcards to and call insors
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flavoring on cap and trade and uhhh i after this is over which should be fairly soon uhhh i want to go back to miami and work on uhhh
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on uhhh healthcare on uhhh public option that i'm pretty passionate about yeah yeah
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uhhh hopefully i'll get to talk to you about that uhhh we're going to move on to transcript reading now uhhh so basically in this gray area on the screen uhhh word or sentences will come up they don't really make sense together but they make sense individually ummm so yeah it'll just be that for fifteen minutes and you just read them
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i'm worried about
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okay ummm so how old were you when you ummm
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uhhh left not ready
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i was i guess like two and a half months old
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yeah
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and then your parents moved where
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they moved to
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atlanta first ummm or they were they were in dc for a couple weeks i guess and then they moved to atlanta
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what do your parents do
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my father is a doctor which is why uhhh my family was in kenya
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ummm he was working for cdc at that point studying malaria
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moved back to atlanta because that's where the cdc is based and both both my parents had lived there beforehand and uhhh my mom is a lawyer ummm she uhhh she was in atlanta she went to law school down there
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but she now works for some nonprofits so
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ummm do you think
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having do you think that that kind of influenced your decision to go abroad in bartswana
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yeah i mean definitely ummm
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like i think
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i think having a background
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in like international transnational like travel and experience definitely makes the prospect of like leaving america or leaving the home that i like grew up in not quite so daunting it's kind of like i did it before i had a choice so it's not like impossible or too scary to do it again but ummm yeah going definitely going back to uhhh sub saharan africa was a very like conscious decision that reflected like wanting to go back to
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sort of the same region or part of the world where i was born ummm and i want to go to kenya originally but the political instability couple of two years ago kind of or a year and a half ago kind of made that ummm unfasible
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i remember when when that was going on i was in ummm
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i had an anthropology class called media in africa and it was like great foodter for discussion cause it was just like make sure to read the newspapers you know keep up with what's going on and then we always had something to discuss
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right
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yeah i was taking barns sanda barns during that that same period so ummm yeah definitely it was it was funny cause like
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like i was gear i was gearing up to like start going there and then ummm that happened and like you know the elections happened and all the stuff that happened after that and like my decision making process like changed every time i read the news you know like which was kind of interesting and scary
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it's not something that we're used to in the states but a lot of places
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i didn't really like that that's what uhhh i was in israel with my family a couple weeks ago and that's what our tour guide was trying to stress it's like
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the the everydayness of not of not really knowing where you can and can't go i mean not that
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i mean
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regardless of your like political leanings it's like still a dangerous danger you know
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yeah yeah definitely
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ummm so anyway my my mom did ummm she studied physical anthropology and a big topic in physical anthropology is sickle cell ummm so she was doing a big sickle cell study in philly when i was younger which is directly related to malaria
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oh yeah ummm
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i didn't know that what what was she studying about
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ummm so the way that scial cell works is uhhh it's problematic when you're homozygus dominant right before it and it's good when it's heterrozygress because it wards off malaria hurts in defense and then if you don't have the gene at all and you're in sub saharan africa you have no defense against malaria and you're subject to it
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so that's why it's interesting from a physical anthropology perspective cause it's a weird evolutionary thing but i'm talking too much ummm
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yeah
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uhhh so what what are you doing this summer
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ummm well actually i'll i'll back up no ummm so i took yeah yeah i took malarial anti malarial medicine while i was there and there's like a couple ones on the market ummm
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yeah
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that that they the doctors thrust upon people for often exorbant amounts of money but ummm i was taking doxycling which is an antibiotic and it's often prescribed for a lot of things besides being anti malarial medication but ummm i'd actually taken it for
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i guess two and a half years even before i went to subsran africa ummm it's prescribe like an acne medication so i was taking it it's like a mild one but ummm but then when i was when i went to sub saran africa i was taking it like every day at a much higher dosage and this like really rare side effect of taking doxycling is it can cause ummm like esoophical eorsion and so you know when i got back from from botswana i like started having these stomach pains and whatnot turned out i had a parasite that i brought back as well ummm which so the doctors thought they got it ummm they figured it out eventually but then it also turned out i actually did have stomach ulcers and it's just like so it's so crazy that ummm these medications that you know are supposed to do good things for you or ward off things like it's really snippy in the bud so i kind of wish i had sickles though
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it's a cool sign
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not hos i guess but yeah
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i guess
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it is
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uhhh but you do have you have half
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de formed it's like you it's like a pretty literal translation so it's like when you're herzys for the trait you ummm
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when you're when you're home is agress all of your
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blood cells are like de formed in the sickle shape
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right
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yeah
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but yeah so it's like halfway you're at of us i guess it's pretty interesting ummm so what are you doing this summer
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right
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ummm well this summer i uhhh
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i am working one job kind of like in between part time full time ummm
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and i work at a uhhh it's a it's a web design firm it's called night kitchen interactive named after the the maury sandeck
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ummm night kitchen yeah it's great ummm but uhhh
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i'm not actually doing web design for them i don't really know how to do web design ummm they are working on a project with the historical society of pennsylvania where they're making this website it's kind of like a communal storying website for ummm neighborhoods in philadelphia where people will be able to go to the site it's called phil a place org and uhhh
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i applied to work for them
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oh yeah oh no
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hmmm
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i'm painfully familiar with but no but keep talking
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oh okay
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yeah ummm yeah no so essentially it's like a story telling website where they ummm people will be able to go on and see a map of the city and little dots all over the map and each dot represents like an individual business organization museum park that kind of thing and when people click on a dot we're calling them points of interest pos uhhh they're directed to like a multi media page that kind of talks about the story of that that point of interest or the history of it the cultural significance ummm and and mostly we're trying to do it through multi media so obviously everything will have some some words some written component just so people can quickly read something about it or get it get a brief summary but we want people to be able to click on things and actually hear the voices of people telling their story ummm or see photographs or video of of the building or of the the butcher chopping up his meat
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you know whatever whatever it may be i say butcher just because we're just filming sunny di angelopping up an anelope in ninth street market which was which was great but ummm it's been it's been a good job like i get to go around the city i mean they're starting just with northern liberties kensington area along with south philly and get to go around and just meet people and hear their stories and learn about
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which is cool ummm and uhhh and yeah i mean like you i know you you appreciate storying ummm in whatever form it might come in but this is it's this is cool opportunity i'm definitely learning more about the city even just like on a very basic level like my understanding of where things are located and like
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yeah it's great
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you know the boundaries of certain neighborhoods historically versus where they are now and like how people move around the city and and you know just like it's it's pretty interesting
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hmmm
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