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yeah
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he became he had been a captain in the army over
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difficult troops
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yeah
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so that he got into the correctional facility business i mean he
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oh
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go he got a job the girls' training school there needed someone and he
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be g got into that
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and he remained the rest of his life
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oh
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so after that they moved to middletown and then they went to south portright upstate
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near onianta and
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yeah yeah
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and he
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founded how shall i say he rebuilt a
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boys' training school and it was so successful they named it after him now
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oh i didn't know any of this
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yeah the fred all yeah he's very very
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ummm prominent in that field in the correc
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no no
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he did a wonderful job in fact he had the best average of rehabilitation
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in the country for that age
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oh is that nice
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which is not too great but he had the best a average in the country
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yeah what's he doing now
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yeah they're a wonderful couple
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irene died that's ir that's bessie's
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yeah
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uhhh do you remember uhhh lenny kocherstein and
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of course lenny i know and gloria and bessie kocherstein i remember
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yeah lenny you said he was the husband
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yeah
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alright it was lenny's
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yeah
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sister one year up uhhh
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older sister
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so she was her fi
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she's a little older like i don't know how many years older than him like one or two years older than him
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oh no i just remember lenny and gloria no i never i don't think i ever met or i don't remember meeting her
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yeah because lenny was the youngest i think
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no
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yeah well lenny lived right in hudson and his kids and all we grew up with his kids
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yeah
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right right
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so him i you know i knew yeah he used to work in our store sometimes even as a butcher
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yes yes
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i remember that and they used to have uhhh uhhh
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uhhh deli counter like in a drugstore once i was a waitress i worked for them once one summer
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uhhh yeah they always had that the catering and all that
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yeah yeah with some kind of they took over uhhh uhhh the drug store they took over the
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the lunch counters i remember that they gave me a summer job once
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right
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yeah they were always th now your mother must tell you th the son wayne is now in that business he's got a cookie subs
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yeah yeah yeah i remember when they sai i think he's president of the synagogue too or something he's a big shot in the synagogue or something too
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big shot also with catering
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maybe
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i hope that place keeps up and everything because both my parents' plaques are there
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oh yeah tha
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yeah
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yeah that's that's nice then
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i hope it continues yeah i
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yeah of course of course
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but so he became proud with that and he has two children who
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didn't live in hudson after that after the they were babies on the farm
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yeah
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they moved away so they don't even know anybody
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except pam remember pam uhhh pam uhhh kocherstein
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yeah pam eh yeah
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yeah
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right now i think her older one is going to be bar mitzvahed soon
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oh wow oh
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i don't know whe i don't know if any
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little pammy just little pammy little smiley little fat little kid
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little little skinny yeah she was
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yeah
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skinny now n
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no i remember no that was paula was the fat one paula kocherstein was the fat one
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yeah now she isn't unbel it's unbelievable
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oh i don't know
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jeez i don't know them anymore oh jeez
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but she's thin
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yeah she's got three lovely girls
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and she lived in saint louis missouri
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yeah
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yeah i i heard that yeah that's right
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yeah uhhh pam is living near what's divensinville wherever that is
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yeah that's right near hudson yeah that isn't too far away
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yeah
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and she has two lovely boys so they're a all the kids are okay
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oh that's nice
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yeah i tried you know my mother i keep telling her what's going on in hudson what's going on in hudson but i never you know i i don't hear all the news and i don't know what exactly what
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no
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now now do you remember sandra potswool
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no i don't know her either no
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jerry kocherstein's daughter
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no no i don't know her either i just i mean i've heard the name often but i can't
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okay so i usually get ummm which to start up with like where people have lived and at what ages in order to get the sense of accent accent development where did you say you were born
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paducah
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which is why
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in kentucky
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