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Anyone surprised? He’s a lying cheating POS. Always has been, always will be.
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Is this not a crime? He's actively trying to conspire with another government leader to rig an election in his favor. Is there really nothing that can be done about this other than wag a finger and act outraged? Once Biden is in office, this needs to be investigated. If it's as bad as it sounds, people need to go to jail. Forget moving on as a country. This behavior needs to be punished.
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Ok. Enough. Go to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200.00.
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Im so sick of trump i cant even bring myself to listen to the audio.
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Real silent about this over on r/conservative
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What does it even matter?? The guy could cut a democrats head off on live TV and his base would roar with approval. If this call isn't a smoking gun, then what is? Kinda ironic that they can't provide any evidence to support their fraud claims then a call like this surfaces proving they're practically begging (or is it threatening?) Anyone in their way to come up with the evidence they've failed to find.
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If this lunatic is not charged with Conspiracy against The Republic after leaving White House then simply there is no hope for this fucked up system.
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Wow, a whole *seven* Republicans. So generous.
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Seven? SEVEN!?! McCarthy should be strung up by his balls if he doesn’t get his fucking seditious Confederate colleagues in line and support the validity of the election. Miserable rat fucks.
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How brave and courageous of them, to simply do what they should already be doing
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Congratulations for doing your fucking job 👏
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Is this an Onion headline?
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Pls don't pat them on the back for this
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A whole 4 percent of the House GOP Caucus aren't traitors. And yet, imagine remaining in an organization that was 96% traitors and thinking "we just agree on fiscal policy".
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It’s a start, how about you start calling your fellow party members out for their unAmerican actions.
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Welcome in 4th Reich. Fucking fascists are trying to steal our Country from us.
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They should be expelled from congress for breaking their oaths.
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I accidentally switched to fox this morning and no joke - they were talking about McCarthy somehow getting elected as speaker if Nancy didn’t get the votes. I just had to share that with someone. They’re taking crazy pills.
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>In a sign of just how delicate the vote count is, and with a recognition of the surging pandemic, House officials constructed a special plexiglass box in the chamber Sunday so that members who tested negative for the coronavirus but were quarantining after exposure — two Democrats and one Republican in this case — could still cast their vote. They should keep the punishment box for every procedural violation now.
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Internal polling must be bad for the GOP in GA. Trump mentions them basically losing in his treason call.
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>That is why some Whitfield residents are worried about President Donald Trump’s plans to headline a rally for Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue here Monday, the eve of the U.S. Senate runoffs. Organizers are anticipating as many as 20,000 people for the event, in the heart of Georgia’s conservative base. Can you imagine having lost a loved one to covid and then a local political party is throwing a 20,000 person party as if nobody else matters.
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Literally suicide voting. Electing bastards, then dying of preventable disease.
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Hey GOP, Democracy over fascism really is not a hard decision. Constitution over one guy is an easy choice.
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Good. Break up the GOP.
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Nice to see Republican on Republican strife
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It is an attempted coup, every Congress Person involved with this seditious act should be removed from office and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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>But Trump and the GOP have already accused the Democrats of staging a coup.. so Trump is just fighting back! both sides are doing it! This is how **preemptive projection** works, and exactly why Fascists use it as a tactic, as it provides a “both sides” shroud of immunity that allows them to hastily advance forward into authoritarianism, unchallenged. Trump and the GOP constitute the greatest threat to American Democracy since the Civil War.
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This call and the fact that it won't go punished is really a confirmation to me that the US has unraveled. Biden might slow the process of disintegration for a while if he's lucky, but I don't think any society survives this level of corruption.
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Entirely. So much of the downfall of democracy has to do with media not taking a stand and reporting *FACTUALLY*. Call the lies and sedition what it is. Otherwise you are misleading people and making this all possible.
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Yea that recording removed all question, asking an official to "find" an arbitrary number of votes? Of course it's a coup attempt, and a highly criminal one. --- https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/595 18 U.S. Code § 595 - Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
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Wouldn't it be nice if people today were actually held accountable for their words and actions? What a radical concept.
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This is why the GOP has been ceaselessly working the ref (the media) over the last few decades. The GOP wants to ensure the media is too worried about accusations of bias to honestly describe what they, the GOP, are doing. If the media grew a pair and started calling this attempted coup what it is, using honest, frank, direct language, you might see public sentiment start to change. As it is, the GOP has enjoyed a total free roll on nonsense like this. If it works, great, they installed a king! If it doesn't work, who cares? No one is calling them out on it. So either they win or stay the same. There's literally no down side when they aren't being called out. That's why dictators always vilify the media.
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just hearing the first part of the phone call (full) shows how crazy Trump is anyone who supports that insanity is as bad as he is the poor guys the people on that phone who had to sit there and to be respectfulas best they can ..because this clown was president. if it was me i would have lost my shit within 3 minutes lol
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All Members of Congress involved in not confirming Joe Biden needs to be removed from Office. They no longer are for the constitution, the people, or Democracy. Treasonous Traitors to America, Party of Facist. F*ck Trump and his zealot followers.
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Finally, I do however like the name “The Clown Coup”. It has such a nice ring to it. You can separate it from all the others.
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These guys still haven't figured out what the word "lie" means, I wouldn't hold your breath on "coup."
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Universal Citation: GA Code § 21-2-604 (2019) (a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct. (2) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a misdemeanor under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct. (b) (1) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than three years. (2) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree shall be punished as for a misdemeanor. (c) It is no defense to a prosecution for criminal solicitation to commit election fraud that the person solicited could not be guilty of the crime solicited. (d) The provisions of subsections (a) through (c) of this Code section are cumulative and shall not supersede any other penal law of this state.
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What’s the Venn diagram look like comparing these seditious traitors to the ones that had those secret meetings with Russia?
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Some would say they're doing America a favor. If the Republicans split, they stand no chance at the polls.
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All you moderate Republicans that went along with the anti-democratic, anti-American bullshit the last 4 years to win some votes, this is on you! Good riddance to your festering pile of a party.
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She needs to retire.
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In case anyone's been living under a literal rock for the past two months.
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4 whole Republican Senators are willing to sign their name to reality. Wow.
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Pointless objections to get a bunch of lunatics riled up. Literally some of the most toxic shit ever being done to our country for nothing more than fear of not being re elected or trying to win a future presidential race. A few years ago I never expected that even at our worst that we would fall this low
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hey Bernie i got a good fillabuster for you hold up a tape of the phone call recording and play it lol
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That's quite enough of the 2020 serpent flag deathcult for one decade.
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It may not stop them from objecting. It will not stop Biden from becoming president. It probably is sedition, shall we prosecute?
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Republican voting requirements: 1. White 2. Male 3. Land owner
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The only fraud was committed by Donald Trump and a handful of his idiot supporters. GOP just love supressing rights and democracy. Any excuse will do.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you create a bunch of hoops people didn't need to jump through before but do now if they want to keep participating in society, it's your responsibility, *not theirs,* to make them able to participate. Mandatory ID? Fine. Send a valid one to every voter, free, with automatic renewals. Or make them able to get one at more places. Any municipal building with a modicum of security will do. Make them available outside of working hours, too. Oh, you don't want to do that? No, then fuck you, come back when you care more about the real voters you're disenfranchising than the imaginary fraudsters you're keeping at bay. It goes on like that. It's not enough to make participation *secure,* they must make participation *a burden.* Because in the end, if the wrong people don't vote, it's no skin off these assholes' noses.
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In his phone call to Georgia’s Secretary of State, Trump made it clear his charge of voter fraud was based only on “hearsay”, ie, totally made up garbage.
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FINALLY SOMEONE FUCKING GETS IT! Have Senate Redistrict Win House in 2022 Have control of the most governorships, state legislatures, states, house, senate and majority on all the courts. Use it to pass a whole bunch of voter ID and detailed registration laws as well as close a whole bunch of polling places to disenfranchise voters, especially black ones, all in the name of “preventing another steal”.
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There’s a conspiracy theory that there really were rigged voting machines out there but they favored the GOP and the criticism of Dominion is merely projection. Raw story published an article about it. https://www.rawstory.com/voting-machine/
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The only dog I have in this fight is America itself. If the sides in the GOP destroy each other, my dog wins.
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After their last “war” in 2009-10 with the Tea Party, they won 63 seats in the next midterms. Let’s not kid ourselves. 75M voters and 100-120M believers don’t just go away.
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At least for 2 years, let's flip Georgia blue.
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Please dear Jesus, we need this.
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Wow. Just wow. How can the moderators of this subreddit allow this site to be whitelisted when they're writing articles such as this? This is calling for treasonous and seditious behavior and is insanity.
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That's a funny way of spelling seditious assholes
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As if MAGA had a single patriot. Supporters of fascism and hate the lot of them.
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Hot garbage
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r/conservative gets upset about not having a warm welcome on this sub, it's because they post this nonsense.
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He means "maga nazis must try to subvert the will of the people."
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There's no universe in which supporters of treason and sedition and political coups are patriots.
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These fuckheads are NOT patriots. No-one who bleats “MAGA” is. This fucking site should be banned. Stop posting such absolute shit.
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Right on! Destroy the GOP and yourselves just to own the Libs.
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A split so bad that someone in the GOP recorded and leaked the president using extortion on a state elected official to the fucking Washington Post.
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"It was the starkest illustration yet of the civil war that could engulf the Republican Party in the post-Trump era, as factions prepare to battle over whether the party will continue down the unorthodox, scorched-earth path forged by President Trump or return to a more traditional brand of conservative politics." So... Mitch McConnell represents the traditional brand of conservative politics? We can only marvel at how fast they have gone from bad to worse.
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Id rather they take on basic education, since they and their inbred supporters lack it.
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>Meet the GOP freshmen taking on the ‘Squad’ These kooks aren't taking on anything.
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No.
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Fuck the GOP.
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Which one died of Covid again?
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Trump was the swamp 4 years ago. Thanks for catching up. I actually had a guy tell me with a straight face that trump is the face of anti global elitism. Really? The guy who shits on a gold toilet and all of his products made in China? Him?
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This is actually a cogent examination of precisely why it's clearly a political gambit and also--just by the by--also covers just exactly why folks like Cruz ought to be ashamed of themselves, even though they are not. I did like this bit paragraph though: > Trump and his loyalists are “disputing” those five states only in the sense of not being able to come to terms with having lost them. That does not make them disputed in a legally cognizable sense.
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The entire HOUR long phone call is on line. Washington Post has the link, it is a huge long diatribe by the most desperate mafia don and such a deliberate power grab I have ever heard. It was insane, pressure on Georgia, it’s beyond anything you could begin to imagine. Now will any Republican’s rise up and say this was unconstitutional, criminal in nature, .. words are beyond me. Hour long. Seriously ....you have NEVER heard ANYTHING like it.
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Lotta “strategic silence” this afternoon
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It always seems like a Democrat can be impeached for basically anything they do. No matter what trump does the republicans stand behind him. If the republicans don’t do something to reign themselves in it just proves how morally bankrupt they’ve become. They’re basically a criminal organization at this point.
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He literally opens his comments with nearly 2,000 words of steam-of-consciousness rambling that touches on all of the big MAGA voting conspiracy theories. Huge voting dumps, secret votes in a briefcase, Trump votes put in a shredder, Dominion voting machines, etc. Truly deranged shit.
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That's one way to alienate the very people who support you.
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Universal Citation: GA Code § 21-2-604 (2019) (a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct. (2) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a misdemeanor under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct. (b) (1) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than three years. (2) A person convicted of the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree shall be punished as for a misdemeanor. (c) It is no defense to a prosecution for criminal solicitation to commit election fraud that the person solicited could not be guilty of the crime solicited. (d) The provisions of subsections (a) through (c) of this Code section are cumulative and shall not supersede any other penal law of this state.
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Why even bother? I believe he should have to submit proof of anything he says. Even if it's that he ate eggs for breakfast. A cook has to corroborate. Just assume everything he says is a lie and fact check the corroborating evidence.
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it was just one crazy statement after another and it just didnt stop
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Or better idea, allocated the money to all citizens and not just the privileged enough to go to college. Who will out earn and live the working class and working poor.
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A general strike would turn the country around. The rich had a collective heart attack when the stock market plunged in March. Just see how fast we get what we want if at least half of us protested working until we got some actual workers' rights.
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They're probably not very well funded though.
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Just find 11,780 votes. What a scumbag.
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This has to be illegal, right???
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I have a few friends today who are talking like this is the incident finally that breaks the gop. But that’s not how cults work. The supreme leader is absolute authority in their eyes. They will excuse and ignore this like they ignored the 3x scandals per week for the past 4+ years.
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Inciting election fraud?
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Can you imagine if he'd only been this obsessed with say, confronting the huge pandemic we've endured for a year now?
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Wow it only took until Jan 3rd for these morons to address the gaping plot hole in their election fraud drama mini series
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On one hand, he is trying to have his cake and eat it too by reinforcing the message that the election has questions while still not participating in Brooks' effort. On the other, he is exposing the hypocrisy of Brooks and company as they will vote yes on this, but then vote to block the electoral college count. So kudos to him for that.
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Oh, but there are no contested election results. The courts have already settled that.
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Sounds to me like Chip Roy is calling his own election into question. Gauntlet's been thrown down. Pelosi needs to refuse to seat any member of Congress who backs Trump on this.
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I, on the other hand, object to seating members of Congress who are *contesting* the election results.
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Definitely don’t know enough about Roy’s position on the election to know whether to greet his statement with cynicism or not, but at least the verbiage reads as if he is calling out the logical fallacies of trying to argue that ONLY the Presidential votes were fraudulent. I suppose the real question is, what is the partisan makeup of the states in question? Would not seating these elects flip the majority to the GOP?
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What have we become?
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Why couldn’t people just vote for the amazing Wendy Davis instead of this embarrassing assclown
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As a Texan I have to apologize for this knuckledragger.
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