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Presumably shut down the reactor safely, then leave the reactors offline and alone. Then get to blowing up the non radioactive bits.
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Now it belongs to the French?
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>They're now at serious risk of having Ukranian troops loose in undefended territory behind them,
This is magical thinking, full stop. This risk is 0%.
If Ukraine does the same thing as in Kursk and throws 2-5 thousand soldiers at the front to break it open and tries to infiltrate between Belgorod and Vovchansk, then the chance rises maybe to more than 0%, but it would require much resources Ukraine can't afford, for very questionable gain.
>and it's clearly a multistage operation. And they're not going to just attack around Kursk and then sit there letting Russia react and stabilise... they're going to keep pulling the rug.
Massive speculation, presented with 100% certainty.
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I would have sympathy for all the innocents affected, as should you. I would be angry at Ukraine or any geographic power if they did this for the ecological impact alone.
The sowing would hardly affect the Russian oligarchs or leadership. It would sooner hit the powerless individuals living under them and take away generations of livable land. It's a wildfire invisible to the naked eye, and you don't always know you or your children are aflame until it's too late.
Passive endorsement is encouragement.
I'll stop responding, but I hope you consider the depth of such a tragic strategy.
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2024-10-08
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I think Eddy Izzard said it best, “No flag, no country.”
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i know reddit isn’t the place for serious analysis but if there are any redditors with a solid read on what this could mean for the war and not annoying jokes please use this comment as a place to leave it lol
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the majority of them are probably not even aware of what's happening, as they are both dumb and easily misinformed.
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You never have spares for those. They aren't something you can get from Grainger... Or even McMaster Carr.
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My worry is that Russia will sabotage it before losing it, and frame Ukraine over the fallout.
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Yeah, but no one believes Russia and other countries have their own intelligence on stuff like that.
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Now hold on a second… are you saying we could ship
All white supremacists to the moon and they would be *happy?*
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2024-11-08
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The flag is embroidered. If non colored flags on soldier uniforms count, so does the flag on the moon.
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2024-11-08
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That sounds exactly like what u/Simphonia said
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2024-11-08
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Really people who are cheering for an overextension towards Moscow as the Rasputitsa is about to set in, are just bad bots.
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Subotai captured all of russia. He came from Siberia to do it- and he WAITED for winter before invading so his horses could run faster over the frozen terrain.
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Go ahead and look up where Chernobyl is.
I think the Ukrainians know *exactly* how dangerous old Soviet reactors can be.
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> Ukraine's goal in Kherson was to force a withdrawal without engaging the City itself.
Sure, capturing the city itself undamaged by combat makes sense. But Russia withdrew from a much larger area than just the city, literally over 100km broad IIRC. Ukraine could still have encircled units retreating from the far corners, if the retreat had not been well coordinated. But no units seem to have been destroyed by such Russian errors, IIRC.
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Why does Russia should do it? It’s not profitable
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100%. I wonder what condition the standby generators / battery backups are in? I’m sure the Russians wouldn’t let maintenance on that slip, but I would still be concerned. Maybe best to shutdown the reactor first, then knock out the transformers.
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Just tape down the AZ-5 button with duct tape, duh?
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Also in addition to that it's probably not a great idea having a bunch of armed convicts running around in your own country compared to sending them into another.
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2024-11-08
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We've been operating in 'maybe' nuclear war since 1945.
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Right, what you’re saying is that America did it so it’s ok? So bizarre
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you asked what other state invaded and killed civilians and I answered your hypocritical question but you could not understand anything)
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Nope, business as usual
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Straight onto the ayatollah’s roof, Amen 🙏
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If you want to catch the hackers, fraudsters human traffickers, drug dealers and pedophiles who are hiding on the dark web, all of us will have to accept to have ZERO private life online and that the authorities will spy on us all the time, logging, storing and scrutinizing everything we say and do online.
We also have to accept that, if every countries decides to internationally prosecute any perceived crime that takes place online, you could have an arrest warrant issued to your name for simply engaging in something that is legal in your country but illegal in another country, like free speech; you could be criticizing China from your living room in Europe or America and be arrested while on vacation in Brazil because China has issued an international arrest warrant against you.
We all want to catch criminal but treating everyone on Earth as a potential criminal is not the right way to do this.
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Truer words could not be said
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Are there any good ones these days?
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jorjor well
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If thats the plan, see you in a few years
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I’m hoping they establish secure supply lines and really kick the shit out of russia. If Ukraine makes it to Moscow that would be amazing!!!!
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My wife brought up the point that they’re showing all the other countries bordering Russia that have been bullied by them for centuries that they’re weak and unorganized. I’d love to see them all step up and start moving into Russia too.
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A more likely reason for this is that it removes Russia's ability to control operational tempo and puts significant polticial strain on Putin.
If Ukraine can dig in on Russian territory (and there's some pretty defensible points near the border, particularly along the Psel River) then Russia's plan of summer offensives with 'volunteer' troops and ethnic minorities while the big city conscripts take safer jobs in the rear areas gets fucked.
Not only are Russia basically compelled to throw everything they have at these positions (which will be a fucking meatgrinder), but they have to pick between pulling their more politically expendable troops off the line in Ukraine to do so or using conscripts from big cities, which breaks the implicit 'go along with Putin and your kids stay safe in the rear while convicts and ethnic minorities do the real fighting' detente that was pacifying the populations of those big cities.
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Yes. Ukraine has been saying for months all the reports of their depleted manpower were Russian misinformation--this is just the proof that people apparently needed. Their military is posting memes about laughing on social media about how "thank god our women and children are guarding the trenches...it freed up all our elderly to go fight in Kursk."
Ukraine just has good operational security, so nobody outside military intelligence has any clue how many soldiers they have. Anything you've heard in terms of numbers is Russian misinformation.
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For what? To march on Moscow? Fuck no.
To take a nice defensible chunk of Russian land and fortify it, using it as a base to launch raids? Absolutely.
If anything this will significantly ease pressure of Ukrainian manpower since Russia will have to scramble to move troops the long way around the perimeter of Ukraine to counter these attacks while Ukraine moves its troops the short way.
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Oh, there will be definitely ethnic cleansing if it happens.
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Kind of an awkward situation for NATO members, they’re not supposed to attack first, and everyone in the alliance would be obligated to join the war.
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You're probably right. Hope springs eternal.
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Pushing into Russia is a risky strategy. On one hand it’ll pull critical Russian troops from more active Frontline engagements, but on the other it creates a situation in which you are directly threatening Russia on their own territory- which can start to feel like an existential threat.
I can only imagine how the us would respond if we had foreign troops invading California or Alaska.
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The great bear is old and toothless, and surrounded by wolves.
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They could help other countries around them take back land that’s been stolen from them
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Napoleon tried, Hitler tried - can Zelenskyy take Moscow!
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Good work you made me respond again!
Uranium doesn't "burn", it melts down causing hydrogen explosions from the water (the actual cause of chernobyl's biggest release of radiation.)
This also happened to Japan's reactor in 2011 to a lessor degree. Well after your "safe" reactors were built.
Yes it can happen. We just haven't had a complete failure of containment yet. It's delusional to think a catastrophic meltdown is impossible or would have only small local effects.
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During the period when the sun is down every 24 hours
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Georgia has a pro Russian government at the moment. Granted Russia's weakness does make it less likely that they could intervene if the pro Russia party loses the elections this fall.
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Greater finland is calling, all the way to Saint Petersburg
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"So we'll all keep marching, to the big cooling towers, the have the plant, but we have the power"
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Allow me to retort! - Putin
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They didn’t use soviet tactics in Zaporizhia. And that turned out to be a shit show, so yes, sometimes old soviet tactics are better for the situation than Nato tactics. Especially when you have no air superiority
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Seems pretty clear now that Trump is gonna lose in a landslide.
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Does China step in to defend Russia militarily? I have my doubts. A "world war" where it's Russia and a couple of small puppets is not really a world war in the same sense as 1 and 2. Russia wouldn't last a month.
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The next closest geopolitical blunders I can think of are the first Chechen war and the Soviet-Afghan war.
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Russia is weird.
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Not a chance, Moscow is still heavily defended.
But they don't need to reach Moscow to cripple the Russia's energy infrastructure and sever the Russian Army's lines of supply and communication.
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Master, destroyers!
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I have to wonder, what's keeping the Ukrainians from doing the modern version of Sherman's March to the Sea up to Moscow, then, say, the Finnish border?
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Touché.
During the hours of darkness that occur within each complete rotation of the Earth on its axis, which *typically* occurs every 24 hours but may extend for weeks or months in polar regions due to the Earth's axial tilt.
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I'm not sure why you'd want to do that. Radars aren't cheap, or really common, and modern missiles don't require that the radar be turned on the entire time. That's more a Vietnam era thing.
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> that didn't really disrupt the US's value to other nations in terms of global economics and security.
yeah we got trump and the republicans for that
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I wish he would get lost in an actual landslide...like actually tumbling away into the abyss never to be seen again.
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Nah, anyone can do a TX rewind. The precision required for making turbines, only few can do. Those that can are all made to measure.
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No... They are wrong. The nuclear systems are separate b
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There's zero chance they are staying in the area. It would be a "what condition do you want it back in?" sort of thing. In any case they are still a few klicks away and I think they are about to wrap up this operation.
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For so many reasons it would be best to keep the plant operational. Just cut off/divert its power output.
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> not really a world war in the same sense as 1 and 2
I don't think we're ever to likely see that style of warfare again. It will either be regionally-localised conventional engagements, like Ukraine, or nuclear armageddon. Even if they wanted to, neither China nor Russia (especially now) are equipped to handle a large scale, multi-front conventional war against the West.
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They won’t. That’s an automatic trigger for article 5.
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World War cant even really happen anymore at same scale. Invading someone is hard, doing stuff far away is hard. Defense is much easier than attacking now and building stuff takes way longer and requires much more expertise.
In WW2 they made a dozen planes a week out of wood and cheap materials, and bombers blocked out the sky, now it takes 10 years to build one ship and $100 million one plane, and one cheap missile can defeat both. Scaling up has hard bottlenecks like microprocessors and advanced components.
The only countries with the logistics to fight anyone besides their neighbor can be counted on one hand. Most countries cant really fight or have any interest in doing it even if things got much worse.
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If they had that much sense they wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. This is the "nation" with military officials who were so confident they'd take Ukraine in 3 days that they reserved tables at restaurants in Kyiv for the following weekend. They're not known for their military planning.
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My favorite Patton quote:
"There are German towns whose names I cannot pronounce, but whose places I have removed."
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I would love to see anti-Russian forces awaken in Georgia. It is where the popular sympathies lie.
Ditto for the anti-Russians in Belarus rising up against 'Uncle Luka'.
What the hell, toss in Chechen rebels seeing a chance, and rising up again.
Ok, this is all a near impossible, but a guy can dream.
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>divert its power output
Unless you've got miles and miles of cable and hundreds of high voltage pylons in your back pocket, that's not happening.
The best plan is to shut it down and get the fuck out of dodge. It's not a very defensible area.
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*We know they are lying. They know we know they are lying. We know they know we know they are lying. But still they are lying."
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And why Poland? It was never originally Polish, it was land of the Pruss tribe, then Teutonic order genocided them... Fast forward, it's full of russian settlers, that no neighboring country would want.
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The best outcome is Russia's defense completely collapses and Ukraine takes Moscow.
Key thing Ukraines allies have ten to twenty times the logistic capability as Russia. And it's being put increasingly on a war footing month by month.
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No, the worst case is nuclear winter... Berlining Moscow would be kinda ironic payback, especially if Germans would have to hold peace in some district
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If the Russian Army collapses they can take the Russian controlled shore of the Black Sea.
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...for the sixth time.
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If it prevents your enemy from counterattacking, it isn’t NEEDLESSLY aggressive. It’s exactly as aggressive as it needs to be.
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You're not from around here, are you? One Chernobyl in my lifetime was enough. How about Ukraine would not go full dumbass mode and safety captures the territories, power plants including.
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Unfortunately brain drain is very small. Your politics did everything to close brains in Russia
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Putin-is-definitely-not-here-ville.
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seems like Ukraine has been trying to push back against fortifications for a while with slow progress. Partially this was because fortifications limit how much of their forces they can use at any given point at a time. incursions into Russia allows them to use the portion of their forces that were not being completely affective at the fortification points.
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Without the transmission equipment it would have to rely on generators to control the shutdown of the core.
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I’m so glad that our Troops fought and died to protect your right to say that
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Then I’m completely lost, what are the two catch phrases you refer to?
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What about special operation? Skirmish? Total war? He knows about those right?
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The Kyiv is a mother... one and Bulba's one, aren't those catch phrases?
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Also, do the people of Kursk want the same thing?
I can't see much benefit to having a resistance movement bogging down AFU units in the area
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Right, got it. Didn’t remember the Kyiv one. Also I’m not sure that’s what “catch” phrases mean, I’d call them saying or quotes
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The Russian Government hasn’t said a single true thing since that time they admitted that Coca Cola was delicious in The 1990s.
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I don't think they would intentionally let them take territory but it can't be denied the more they spread out and deeper they get the more they isolate themselves from backup.
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