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But certainly Israel has no reason to be in such a brutal war with the Palestinians? Right? Right?
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Abhorrent
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>Why should Norway allow agents from another country to act without impunity in their country?
What part of holding the actual killer to account in Norway (he was already caught) was served by degrading Mossad's operations in France?
Why was the Norwegian government more scandalized by Mossad agents in Norway than Black September agents in Norway? You could say that Norway's inaction against known terrorists was the final straw for Israel when it came to working cooperatively.
Again, Norway's actions only make sense if their goal was to aid the terrorists. It says a lot about your moral compass if "muh abstract national sovereignty" rates higher as an ethical issue than stopping racially motivated murder.
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Israel still occuying the west bank and even building new settlements there arent they? Just as steadfast as Norway's stance on 2 state solution.
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As with anything in politics, it's a lot to do with what you say, less what you actually do. Is Norway in fact a business-minded oil-exporting economy? Sure. But Norwegian politicians still swear up and down that they are socialists.
Israel might be more socialist, but the traditional socialist party that ran Israel for decades has been officially replaces by ones that don't call themselves socialist.
And socialists can't get along with anyone who doesn't call himself socialist, too.
Also, no, I'm not saying that "nations should be happy with foreign governments liquidating adversaries on their own soil without their consent." But it is weird for European governments to be bothered by the "liquidating" terrorists part. Norway's response seems to have been more about stopping Mossad from catching more bad guys than it was about wanting cooperation and consent.
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No one can trust Israel on the Palestine issue.
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Because Israel controls the borders and airspace of Palestine. So all Norwegian diplomats need to go through an Israeli border check now without immunity.
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Because we all know what will happen to them if they live inside Palestine.
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Nor way to trust anyone these days…
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Canada? To not invade I mean
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He's 74 years old so worst-case scenario is maybe another decade.
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Nobody is settling in Ramallah.
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"Unlivable"? Have seen any prewar footage? It looked nice enough and the population was growing.
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Canada is the country getting invaded, by the look of the Canadian subreddits …
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2024-11-08
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All diplomats have diplomatic status. This is just purposely making things difficult for the norwegians. The West Bank is the occupied West Bank and Israel controls transit.
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Norway has a weak left goverment atm, the most disasterous in decades, if not all time in peace times. it will change next election.
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Maybe once Israel is done with the “Palestinian question” it can get to work on the “Norwegian question”
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The West Bank belonged to Jordan, but Israel has occupied it since the six day war, because Jordan doesn't want it back.
So now Israel owns it. Sucks to be Palestinian, they believed it twice, when their Muslim neighbors promise they would be there to 'liberate' them of the Jews in just a few days.
It never happens.
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No it does not. It only does if the host country recognizes you as a diplomat. You do not have diplomatic status or immunity if you travel with said passport to any random country.
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Still not finished. The case should continue in December. Fingers crossed.
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This is more akin to the US rushing to lax gun control laws immediately following the biggest school shooting in the country's history.
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>But of course I must be an anti-Semite for thinking like this.
Not an anti semite, just an ignorant westerner that lives in a bubble and doesn't understand how armed conflict works and doesn't know the first thing about the israel/palestine conflict
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You seem to be lacking the ability to discern "hurting people" financially, and bombing them to death inside a walled-in strip of land they can't get out of.
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It’s not even close, and especially if you go back a century.
I think Syria alone has a half million more than what even hamas is fake reporting
Where did you get your information?
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They target Israelis specifically on Jewish holidays. Why do Hamas’s religious practices have to be honored when they don’t honor anyone else’s?
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It's not only Gazan, it's Hamas' health ministry. Like, come on, seriously?
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Should they? No. But they are, and that is on Hamas. Simple as.
Oh, and I would love if you gave the EDIT in my previous comment a thought. I want to hear your take on it.
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This will incite more terrorism in the future. Israel‘s curse is it will never know peace…ever.
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One side is terrorists and they are doing terrorist things. The other side is a legitimate government doing terrorist things with the support of its people.
Clearly the terrorist are the only bad people…
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Why does anyone still trust “Gaza health authority” after they initially reported hundreds of death and blamed Israel for the attack when in fact it’s Hamas’s Israel-going rocket malfunctioned and decided to visit the hospital and just blew a small dent on the ground? I don’t see them having any credibility after that incident, none. So I can only conclude that those politicians still believing their figures are pretending for their own interests, they can’t be _that_ stupid.
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it's weird when fox news is one of the only credible source, im not surprised about cnn, nbc etc, but extremely disappointed in reuters since the start of the conflict.
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Hamas rules (like any totalitarian system) is if you are reporting from their area of control, you will only be reporting things that align with their party line. That means, no reporting on anything embarrassing to them or which contradicts their propaganda - or which would disconfirm a story like this one. Because of this, anything done by any on the ground journalist with Hamas blessing to be there should be treated with skepticism given the conditions they operate under.
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Actually there were terror attacks before there was occupation, so... false.
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No, I think Israel being condemned by the UN for not putting effort into limiting civilian casualties is pretty relevant to the most recent case of Israel murdering civilians so they can say they took out a Hamas commander.
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How do you know this?
Isn't that part of the problem, that reports like this are very difficult to validate and many others have been proven to be a ***terrorist*** organisations version of events?
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So you're back to being the rulebook for war. Got it.
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It's nice to live in a safe country that doesn't have to deal with rocket attacks from its neighbours daily, huh?
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> I believe the strike happened very early in the morning
During or just after dawn prayers when people were congregated.
> Publicly the terrorist organization is arguing it was being used as a shelter
It was a standing building in a territory where a large proportion of buildings have been completely destroyed. 16% at a minimum according to the IDF. It would be extremely strange for it not to be used as a shelter in that context.
> serving as a command center.
A terrorist “command center” is a propagandistic term with no internationally recognised definition. If a terrorist sends a message from a building it can be labelled a “command center.”
> The media is bizarrely willing to accept all lines propagated by HAMAS and institutions known to be populated by their acolytes.
People are tired of seeing children killed 10 months into a conflict that appears to have no end in sight and seems more likely to escalate to other fronts.
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Do you think this is funny?
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Mathematics and politics we all agree that number is too low,we all like bigger numbers.
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How is it vague? Doesn't it CLEARLY state that there were dead bodies of babies without heads??
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A little which is why I said it, not funny enough to put on a t shirt or anything though. What’s your issue, you prefer puns?
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Well that's not what I was responding to. You said that you feel terrorists should be held to a higher standard (differential standards) and I'm just saying apply the IHL consistently.
I agree Hamas is clearly the worse perpetrator. Most people are sticking up for civilians, not Hamas, and making sure Israel is held accountable to IHL. After all, one side committing war crimes explicitly does not allow the other side to commit them in retaliation. This strongly contrasts your suggestion, which is that the terrorists should lose some of their (and their civillians') rights under IHL.
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They don't need to prove that no one else was there, and proving a negative is impossible anyway. They only need to prove that there was a Hamas command center there (in a *school* - why do you think that is?) and that they killed Hamas members. If anyone else was there, it's a Hamas war crime, not an Israeli one, by the Geneva Convention. Hell just a command center or any military infrastructure being in a civilian structure like a school is a war crime. And places like that is where literally where ALL Hamas infrastructure is located.
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For all we know, they could have also been Hamas and Israel was just unable to verify if they for sure were.
They only have any idea who's who from their intelligence and finding paper and computer rosters in the ground invasion and then matching to ID documents if those killed even had them on them. It's crazy that they could even figure out who half the victims were already. It took 2-3 months for them to figure out who many of the people massacred by Hamas were due to many bodies being burned/mutilated beyond recognition and needing DNA testing (which they are surely not doing here).
But naturally you just automatically assume they were all innocent civilians. Only one party here is trying to tell you the truth, but you side with the ones proven to be pathological liars who do it for their own clear gain.
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Actually, they kinda do since they claim they only attacked because they verified there weren’t other people there. It’s also part of UN rules. If you read the article in full, it brings up those points
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Musk was advocating for civil war
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Facebook just should’t exist.
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Social media companies can't imprison you for speech like the UK government does. Your fascist ass probably likes imprisoning people for thought crimes though don't you?
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Inciting violence isn’t protected speech
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Social media companies: “There’s far too much dough to be made to be worried about such trivialities.”
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You silly goose, they don’t give a ‘duck’
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Uhhh you can, that's what laws are. Hate speech is not protected speech.
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Come get me, big boy!
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If that doesn't work, they will strongly urge them next time.
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I got a warning from FB for calling someone a potato...
Honestly id "disagree" with their call their as any call to "violence" or any form of saying someone is a thing results in a warning/mark against you.
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Europe needs to ban/force the sale of twitter as a collective, its so important to small businesses the UK doing it alone is going to hurt itself.
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I’d be content if the platforms utilized AI to scan comments and immediately block obvious lies.
Lies are lies. Truths are truths. We seem to be living in an age where people think they can make crap up on the fly as an opinion and tout it as truth. Or they link “proof” and it’s just an opinion piece or some idiot lying on a podcast for clicks.
If you’re against lies being blocked it speaks volumes about you. It shows me your entire world view sits in a foundation of untruths. What a sad structure that is too. Flimsy and weak.
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Elon Musk: Sure, I'll stamp out those violent left wing terrorists.
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Not one American was hurt. One Syrian dude on the US side had a hurt ankle.
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The supply lines for the invasion are dependent on this nuclear plant. It powers the entire area. Shutting it down would cripple the Russian forces in Ukraine.
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Something tells me that Nuclear Plant will be turned off by next week
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“Do you feel it now Mr.Krabs?”
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Slava Ukraini!
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**Lol it’s not that insane and it’s not that hard to train people for.**
Guerrilla ware-fare is just the military version of terrorism.
And warefare is by extension just sanctioned Guerilla Warefare these days.
Nothing about the war between Russia/Ukraine has been conventional except Russia using those tactics as cannon fodder to test line weaknesses.
The Ukrainians are not rushing into enemy lines and being torn to shreds by machine guns like the Russians are.
They are really only being picked off by snipers, artillery, mines and missile strikes.
They are fighting back **primarily with ambushes into enemy lines.** When their infantry does attack they generally send only **a few squads in right before HIMARS strike or such.**
In the disorientation they sweep through trenches and bunkers and basically just kill off the survivors who don’t surrender immediately.
**Nothing about modern ware-fare is conventional anymore like what you’ve seen in movies.**
If you are being shot at chances are **you already fucked up.**
Infantry these days ideally wants to sneak around and call in ordnance.
Not play *”Real Life Call of Duty”* and getting your head blown off.
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Seems like it’s very easy to just convoy to Moscow if you feel like it.
I remember when Putin threatened nuclear war if anyone attacked Russian soil. Empty threats is all he’s got. Trying to keep things on the DL from Russian citizens so they don’t revolt, imo.
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I wonder if it's Red Dawn but in reverse. Blue Dawn.
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Two and a half years after Russia invaded, Ukraine still stands.
I think we can all accept now that Ukraine really does punch above it's weight.
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The key to any dilemma choice is to ensure every single choice is equally bad. Based on what I have seen by reporters and experts in military doctrines, Putin is firmly in that position now. No choice he can make from here on out is objectively best, only "less painful than doing nothing at all".
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HIMARS don't care.
HIMARS see squishy living people, HIMARS make inert matter.
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> Note russia didnt do it to ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant_crisis
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Mate, I used to work with a unit that did the behind the lines stuff.
Insertion methods included: Walking in, driving in, helicopter in (preferred), HAHO (not HALO), deployed from a national carrier (alesgedly), RIB from a sub, etc.
The first three would often prefer a diversion, for example an incursion or spoiling attack in that or a neighbouring sector.
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It would actually be insane if they didn't. It's a worthwhile operation economically, strategically, psychologically.
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Straight to the gulag you go
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>these jets are 60 years old
No, they aren’t. The first prototype flew 50 years ago and these aren’t the same aircraft as that. The Dutch units they’ve received were heavily updated in the 90s to a newer model and modifications have carried on since.
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His death, and the death of every Russian in every major city, in nuclear holocausts.
Not even China would back Russia if it nuked Kyiv. It would be open-season on Russia by every world power.
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This is not new. In Vietnam, snipers killed far more enemy with radios than they did with rifles.
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This is a new front with around 20,000 soldiers behind enemy lines. This is major.
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The U.S. Air Force is very good at Alt+F4ing people, things, and places.
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Nobody would be disappointed if nothing happened.
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Iran hosted a leader of a major group and he was assassinated on their home soil. If they don't get revenge, they lose standing in the eyes of the various proxy groups all across the Middle East they've been building up for decades; would lose respect, influence, and maybe control of them. But they also know that if they do get revenge and they actually kill anyone this time, Israel has just proven they can target Iranian VIPs anywhere: whoever gives the order or countersigns it or who has a history of looking funny at Israel would be committing suicide by Mossad. So I figure they're trying to bluster as loud as possible to convince the other terrorist groups they really mean it, but who knows whether they're more afraid of alienating their proxies or of Israel bringing down the hammer hard this time. Could go either way.
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And what are those groups going to do? They depend on Iran not the other way around. The losing respect part of this is way overblown.
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my government wouldn't invite a terrorist to gloat about their freedom from consequences of their actions.
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On a personal level, what's most annoying to me is that my SO has a delicious bag of granola amongst the groceries she's stashed in the ma'mad (it's like a small room that functions as a bomb shelter) that she won't let me get at until this whole thing has passed.
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So Pakistan should have threaded the US after the ubl raid?
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Air strikes in foreign territory without a declaration of war are in fact war crimes yes, you seem to be the only one bringing religion into this.
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Really? I never knew this.
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For that reason, I don't know why Israel entertains negotiations with these terrorists. They always make Israel look bad and will not give the hostages back anyways.
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You are wrong. It's really not hard to confim either.
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Because Biden is forcing them to negotiate with terrorists. The US would have never negotiated with Al Qaeda.
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Oh well in that case you're safer flying to Dubai than staying in Newark
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Hamas's goal with the October 7 massacre was to unite Muslims against Israel. But negotiations could delay or even stop attacks from Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, which goes against Hamas's mission to destroy Israel.
Hamas is war, destruction, and martyrdom, not about the well-being of the people...who support it after years of brainwashing...In a way, Hamas fully represents Palestinians aspirations, since many agree with its agenda.
Most Palestinian mothers say that sacrificing their kids for Allah by killing Jews is the greatest blessing they could ask for.
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Al Qaeda is not the same as the Taliban, but I get your point.
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