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"content": "That’s on you. That’s on you.",
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"content": "Wow. There’s 680,000 people listening.",
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"content": "There you go.",
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"content": "That’s a lot.",
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"content": "You guys put out this video. (Showing video) I mean, is that speeded up?",
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"content": "That’s the slowed-down version.",
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"content": "How fast does it actually go?",
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"content": "Well, when it’s running at full speed, you can’t actually see the cells without a strobe light. They’re just blur.",
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"content": "It’s this thing, it’s like some people just get a cough.",
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"content": "I have no idea what you’re talking about.",
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"content": "Other people, it gets much worse.",
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"content": "Sure. Well, yeah. I mean, this certainly has taken over the mind space of the world to a degree that is quite shocking.",
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"content": "Yeah. And just to think about what this actually means: the recycling resource is always 10 or greater years delayed because batteries last a really long time. But eventually, it is the way that all resources will be made available. And that’s why we’re investing in this recycling facility in Nevada.",
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"content": "Yeah. Long-term, new batteries will come from old batteries once the fleet reaches steady state.",
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"content": "Right. Okay. So we just talked about scaling cathode and recycling. All of the benefits that you just saw are added to this benefit of a 12% reduction in $/kWh at the battery pack level. Almost at our half of the cost goal, but there’s one more section. Take it away, Elon.",
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"content": "So there’s an architecture that we’ve been wanting to do at Tesla for a long time, and we’ve finally figured it out. And I think it’s the way that all electric cars in the future will ultimately be made. It’s the right way to do things.\nIt starts with having a single piece casting for the front body and the rear body. And in order to do this, we commissioned the largest casting machine that has ever been made. And it’s currently working just over the road at our Fremont plant. It’s pretty sweet. Currently making the entire rear section of the car as a single piece, high-pressure die-cast aluminum.\nAnd in order to do this, we actually had to develop our own alloy because we wanted a high-strength casting alloy that did not require coatings or heat treatment. This is a big deal for castings, especially with a large casting. If you heat treat it afterwards, it tends to deform. It kind of does this like potato chip thing. So it’s very hard to keep a large casting to have its shape.\nSo, in order to achieve this – there was no alloy that existed that could do this – so we developed our own alloy, a special alloy of aluminum that has high strength without heat treat and is very castable. So that’s a great achievement of our materials team. In fact, in general, we’ve got a lot of advanced materials coming for Tesla – new alloys and materials – that have never existed before.\nSo, you’re basically making the front and rear of the car is a single piece, and that then interfaces to what we call the structural battery, where the battery for the first time will have dual use. The battery will both have the use as an energy device and as structure. This is absolutely the way things are done. In the early days of aircraft, they would carry the fuel tanks as cargo. So the fuel tanks actually were quite difficult to carry. They’re basically worse than cargo; you had to kind of bolt them down. It was very difficult.\nAnd then somebody said, “Hey, what if we just make the fuel tank in wing shape?” So all modern airplanes – your wing is just a fuel tank in wing shape. This is absolutely the way to do it. And then the fuel tanks serve this dual structure, and it’s no longer cargo. It’s fundamental to the structure of the aircraft. This was a major breakthrough. We’re doing the same for cars.\nSo this is really quite profound. Effectively the non-cell portion of the battery has negative mass. We saved more mass in the rest of the vehicle than the non-cell portion of the battery. So it’s like, “How do you really minimize the mass of a battery? Make it negative. Make the non-cell portion of battery pack negative.” So it also allows us to pack the cells more densely because we do not have intermediate structure in the battery pack. So instead of having these supports and stabilizers and stringers and structural elements in the battery, we now have a lot more space in the battery because the pack itself is structural.\nWhat we do essentially, instead of having just a filler that is a flame retardant, which is currently what is in the 3 and Y battery packs, we have a filler that is a structural adhesive, as well as flame-retardant. So it effectively glues the cells to the top and bottom sheet. And this allows you to do shear transfer between upper and lower sheet. Just like if you have a formula one craft or a racing boat, and you have carbon fiber face sheets and aluminum honeycomb between them, this gives you incredible stiffness, and it’s really the way that any super fast thing works is you create basically a honeycomb sandwich with two face sheets.\nThis is actually even better than what aircraft do. Because aircraft do not do this. They can’t do this because fuel is liquid. So in our case, the batteries are solid. So we can actually use the steel shell case of the battery to transfer shear from the upper and lower face sheet, which makes for an incredibly stiff structure, even stiffer than a regular car. In fact, if this was a convertible that had no upper structure, that convertible will be stiffer than a regular car. So it’s just really major.\nSo it improves the mass efficiency of the battery. And then, those castings are also quite important because you want to transfer load into the structural battery pack in a very smooth, continuous way. So you don’t put arbitrary point loads into the battery. So you want to sort of feather the load out from the front and rear into the structural battery.\nIt also allows us to move the cells closer to the center of the car because we don’t have the… in the top one, we’ve got all the supports and stuff, so the volumetric efficiency of the structural pack is much better than a non-structural pack. And we’re going to actually bring the cells closer to the center. And because they’re closer to the center, it reduces the probability of a side impact potentially contacting the cells because any kind of side impact has to go further in order to reach the cells.\nIt also proves what’s called the polar moment of inertia which is if you think of when there’s an ice skater arms out or arms in. Arms in, you rotate faster. So if you can bring things closer to the center, you reduce the polar moment of inertia, and that means the car maneuvers better. It just feels better. You won’t know why, but it just feels more agile. So it’s really cool. This is really major. Like I said, so 10% mass reduction in the body of the car, 14% range increase, 370 fewer parts. I really think that, long-term, any cars that do not take this architecture will not be competitive.",
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"content": "You’re talking about the neural net; you’re not talking about an actual baby.",
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"content": "I don’t talk about an actual baby.",
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"content": "But both of them.",
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"content": "Yes. The word neural net comes from the brain. It’s like a net of neurons. Humans are the original gangster of the neural net.",
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"content": "Welcome to the Don Lemon Show, everyone. We’re still here. In a minute, I’m going to bring you my conversation with Elon Musk, the one that everyone is talking about. But first, let me tell you a bit about the show. Contrary to what you might’ve heard, we weren’t canceled by X. Yes, after months of begging me, wooing me to offer some exclusive content on his platform, Elon Musk decided to scrap the deal. But our plan is and always has been, to release this show everywhere, on YouTube, on Spotify, on iHeartRadio, just about any place you stream content.\nNow for my conversation with Elon, as with all my interviews, no restrictions, no ground rules, nothing off limits or out of bounds. That is until the interview ended. So what went wrong? I don’t know. But my hope is that you learn something about both Elon and me, two people who come from completely different vantage points on almost every single issue. And I challenge you, Elon, to watch the whole interview and tell the world why this isn’t what you claim you want on X.\nThank you for inviting us here-",
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"content": "You’re welcome.",
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"content": "I just met with Ann Druyan, wife of a Carl Sagan, who directed “Cosmos”.",
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"content": "I’m genuinely a big fan of Carl Sagan; he was super cool and had a great way of putting things. All of our consciousness, all civilization, everything we’ve ever known and done is on this tiny blue dot. People also get too trapped in there, there’s like squabbles amongst humans, and there’s nobody thinking of the big picture. They take civilization and our continued existence for granted. They shouldn’t do that.\nLook at the history of civilizations. They rise and they fall, and now civilization is globalized, and so this civilization, I think, now rises and falls together. There’s not geographic isolation. This is a big risk. Things don’t always go up. That’s an important lesson of history.",
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"content": "In 1990, at the request of Carl Sagan, the Voyager One spacecraft, which is a spacecraft that’s reaching out farther than anything human-made into space, turned around to take a picture of Earth from 3.7 billion miles away. And as you’re talking about the pale blue dot, in that picture, the earth takes up less than a single pixel in that image. Appearing as a tiny blue dot, as a „pale, blue dot“, as Carl Sagan called it. So he spoke about this dot of ours in 1994. And if you could humor me, I was wondering if in the last two minutes you could read the words that he wrote describing this pale blue dot?",
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"content": "Sure. It’s funny, the universe appears to be 13.8 billion years old. Earth, like four and a half billion years old. In another half billion years or so, the sun will expand and probably evaporate the oceans and make life impossible on Earth. Which means that if it had taken consciousness 10% longer to evolve, it would never have evolved at all, just 10% longer. And I wonder how many dead one-planet civilizations there are out there in the cosmos that never made it to the other planet and ultimately extinguished themselves or were destroyed by external factors? Probably a few.\nIt’s only just possible to travel to Mars, just barely. If G was 10% more, wouldn’t work really. If G were 10% lower, it would be easy. You can go single stage from the surface of Mars all the way to the surface of the Earth because Mars is 37 % of Earth’s gravity, thereabouts. You need a giant boost to get off the Earth.\nChanneling Carl Sagan. “Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every „superstar,“ every „supreme leader,“ every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there–on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.\nOur planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate.”\nThis is not true. This is false. Mars.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "You literally can’t name one.",
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"content": "It’s something like the Strategic Dialogue Institute in the UK, they will say that. So you-",
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"content": "Look, people will say all sorts of nonsense. I’m literally asking for a single example, and you can’t name one.",
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"content": "No, I’m saying you would like more. More like will be beneficial to you. It would be like coffee.",
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"content": "I like to get things done. I like to be useful. That is one of the hardest things to do is to be useful.",
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"content": "When you say you like to get things done, like, in terms of what gives you satisfaction? When you complete a project, when something that you invent comes to fruition, and you see people enjoying it, that feeling.",
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"content": "Yes, doing something useful for other people that I like doing.",
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"content": "Yeah, no one is going to argue with having a more performant product and solution and more relevant ads from our clients and partners. David, where you’re going to speak?\nYes, I got another one. So clearly, Elon, Twitter and you are moving quickly and decisively. You mentioned a content moderation council, that is going to be put together. I guess the question is, how quickly is that going to materialize? And who is going to be comprised of whom? What kinds of folks do you think?",
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"content": "Man, that’s a hard one to answer. I think it’ll probably take us a few months to put that together. And, I mean, certainly a lot of people want to be on it. But this will be an advisory council, not a command council. It’s basically so that the leaders at Twitter can hear what a lot of people have to say, and just make sure that we’re not sort of being numb to the pain of what people are feeling. You know, basically, are we listening carefully?\nBut just going back to what I mentioned earlier, with respect to the community notes feature, in terms of accuracy and truthfulness, that’s going to be very powerful. It will obviate the need for a lot of the content stuff that currently is in place – I think. And look, I’m open to ideas, if you have thoughts here, that would be good to know. What do you think we should do?",
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"content": "Yeah, we absolutely do. And we get feedback all the time. So we can absolutely do that offline.",
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"content": "Okay. Sounds good. I can just say that the aspiration is very much to do the right thing. And I think the best evidence for us doing the right thing will be that more people are signing up. They’re spending more time in the system. That and that it’s working for advertisers, as well.",
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"content": "Covered that. That one.",
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"content": "We literally just answered that.",
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"content": "Yeah. Oh, I saw a cathode durability question. Let’s go to that one, go down, go down, go down. Good technical question. Keep going.\n(reads aloud a question from saytechnologies.com)\nHow are you going to address the cathode durability & cost & environmental impact trifecta? Is this something you are going to leave the upstream supply chain to solve?\nNo, I think we tried to answer that directly. I mean, we really are looking at not just what happens in the cathode facility, but currently outside the cathode facility that should really be inside and removing processes that shouldn’t have been there in the first place and the use of reagents that are just costly and not necessary and removing a bunch of wastewater from the process.",
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"content": "(addressing the team on stage)\nGuys, is there anything you want to add to … Maybe we can go through everyone and maybe say what you’re doing and say a few words. I don’t know.\nSpeaker A on stage:\nSure. I just want to reiterate the fact that this is a massive problem.\nMassive problem.\nSpeaker A on stage:\nAnd it seems like Tesla’s on its way and ahead, but we need everybody’s help because it’s everybody’s planet, and we’re not going to get to 20 terawatt-hours by ourselves. So please think about this carefully, as it affects everybody, so let’s get on it.\nYeah. And obviously, if you care about solving sustainability and doing hardcore engineering, definitely come work for Tesla.\nSpeaker B on stage:\nYeah. We went through a couple of the manufacturing improvements, and it kind of looks easy when you put together a nice slide deck, but it’s super challenging. When you take materials out of the process, when you integrate processes together, you have to do a lot of things at once, and that’s like this immense engineering challenge. And so to appreciate that, to get through this, we need the best engineers we’ve got. And we’ve got this awesome team. I just want to shout out also to all of our team watching, you guys are awesome, you absolutely kicked ass putting this together.",
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"content": "So yes?",
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"content": "Yes. If somebody’s really (…) to not pay, I’ll pay it for them.",
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"content": "All right, we’ll send you the bill. Speaking of being equal, the other question that we keep getting is, do the same rules apply to you, Elon, that apply to everyone else on the platform?",
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"content": "Yeah, absolutely. But I think we also are going to be trying to be more forgiving, you know, provided someone is not actively engaged in in fraud. If somebody missteps, then I think we should maybe give them a temporary suspension, but then allow them back on the platform. But if they keep doing it deliberately, then of course, they should be permanently suspended. I think forgiveness is just a very important principle.\nAnd so long as an account takes corrective action and does not do bad things repeatedly, they shouldn’t be suspended permanently. But if they do bad things repeatedly and deliberately, then they should be suspended permanently.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Because there’s just too many things going on. So one of the trickiest things about a car is that there’s thousands of individual components – there are thousands of unique components – and even if one of those things is missing, you can’t make cars. So today’s fiasco was – I kid you not – we were missing a $3 USB cable. Okay. So we could not complete cars, because …",
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"content": "So the whole line was stopped?",
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"content": "Yeah. Essentially, because it’s part of the wiring harness. You can’t put the interior in without this cable. And so we could either make a whole bunch of cars minus the interior, which means that you’ve got to stack them up in the yard.",
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"content": "Great company.",
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"content": "When you’re in that virtual reality, which is only going to get better, where are you? Where are you really?",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "You aren’t anywhere.",
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"content": "It should be easy.",
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"content": "It should be easy.",
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"content": "But then, like my wife ‘Vegan Shelly’ – I think you’d liked to her tweet the other day – she got banned for replying to one of your tweets and quoting like the video inside of it. And then she got suspended for like a day or something. I was like, “What the heck is going on?” So, it’s just weird how the algorithm works.\nYeah, there’s a lot of manipulation. When we’re going back to the Wikipedia page, you know, it’s kind of interesting, just, what a decade you’ve had. I remember I was reading somebody’s article; I think they interviewed you in 2009, or something like that. And they said, you know, if you’d met Elon Musk in 2009, right after the recession, they’re like, struggling with the Roadster, you know, you never would have thought that you are where you are today. You’re, you know, launching astronauts into space…",
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"content": "We will be, hopefully.",
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"content": "Right. Okay. I didn’t know that.",
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"content": "They can bring their stuff, bring their tent and whatever.",
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"content": "Right. And it’s a roof over their head.",
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"content": "Yeah, if the building owner lets us, we will do it.",
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"content": "A specific frequency will go through this?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Is the process figuring out how much or how little has to be, how much these areas of the brain have to be juiced up?",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, there’s still a lot of work to do. When I say we’ve got a shot at probably putting in a person within a year, that’s exactly what I mean. I think we have a chance of putting it into one and having them be healthy and restoring some functionality that they’ve lost.",
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"content": "Wow. Right when we’re going to Mars.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "It’ll be exciting times.",
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"content": "True. Exactly. I was just thinking about that. It was like, oh, those time frames are kind of coincident. The nature of new technology adoption is it tends to follow an S-curve. What usually happens is people under-predict it in the beginning because people tend to extrapolate in a straight line. And then they’ll over-predict it at the midpoint because there’s late adopters. And then it’ll actually take longer than people think at the mid-point, but much shorter than people think at the beginning. But I’m pretty excited about how things are going. And, in fact, I think that the pace of technology improvement in electric energy storage is really moving faster than anyone thinks.",
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"content": "Okay. In terms of the general overview, the reason why I think you’ve agreed to do this is because you wanted to talk about the first six months as Chief Executive Owner of Twitter.",
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"content": "Yes. Whatever you want to talk about.",
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"content": "So how do you think it’s gone?",
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"content": "Well, it’s not been boring. It’s been quite a rollercoaster. Things are going, I think reasonably well. We’re seeing some all-time highs in terms of total user time. So we passed 8 billion user minutes per day, which is a lot of user minutes.\nSo usage is up, growth is good. The site works mostly. You know, apart from a few glitches here and there, but the site is working fairly well. And we’re doing it with a small fraction of the original head count.",
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"content": "And how did it start? How did people just even know to use it? I mean, obviously, both buyer and seller have to be involved.",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, we started off first by offering people $20 if they opened an account. And $20 if they referred anyone. And then we dropped it to $10. And we dropped it to $5. As the network got bigger and bigger, the value of the network itself exceeded any sort of carrot that we could offer.",
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"content": "How much money did you all spend with that kind of $5, $10, $20 incentive to get that critical mass going?",
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"content": "It was a fair amount. I think it was probably $60 or $70 million.",
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"content": "But like a physical barrier, like-",
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"content": "Well, the wheels work pretty well.",
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"content": "The wheels do.",
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"content": "Yeah, they work pretty well. Decelerated at, you know, 1.1 to 1.2 Gs, that kind of thing.",
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"content": "You have that problem at your house, too. The crack is addictive.",
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"content": "To the degree that you can make somehow learning like a game, then it’s better. And I think, unfortunately, a lot of education is very vaudevillian. You’ve got someone standing up there kind of lecturing at people. And they’ve done the same lecture 20 years in a row, and they’re not very excited about it. And that lack of enthusiasm is conveyed to the students. They’re not very excited about it. They don’t know why they’re there. Like why are we learning this stuff? We don’t even know why. In fact, I think a lot of things that people learn – that probably there’s no point in learning them. Because they never use them in the future.",
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"content": "Because who’s going to launch a rocket into space? I mean, that’s just like– exactly, that never happens.",
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"content": "Well, people don’t stand back and say, why are we teaching people these things. And we should tell them, probably, why we’re teaching these things. Because a lot of kids are probably just in school, probably puzzled as to why they’re there. I think if you can explain the why of things, then that makes a huge difference to people’s motivation. Then they understand the purpose. I think that’s pretty important.\nAnd just make it entertaining. But I think just in general conventional education should be massively overhauled. And I’m sure you pretty much agree with that. I mean, the analogy I sometimes use is, have you seen, like, Batman, the Chris Nolan movie, the recent one. And it’s pretty freaking awesome. And you’ve got incredible special effects, great script, multiple takes, amazing actors, and great sound, and it’s very engaging.\nBut if you were to instead say, okay – even if you had the same script, so at least it’s the same script – and you said, okay, now that script, instead of having movies, we’re going to have that script performed by the local town troop. And so, in every small town in America, if movies didn’t exist, they’d have to then recreate The Dark Knight. With like home-sewn costumes and like jumping across the stage. And not really getting their lines quite right. And not really looking like the people in the movie. And no special effects. And I mean, that would suck. It would be terrible.",
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"content": "And this is when you had those cool Roadsters with the T-top?With a target top?",
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"content": "Yeah. We had like a — It was a highly modified Elise chassis. The body was all completely different. By the way, that was a super dumb strategy that we actually did because we-",
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"content": "Why was it dumb?",
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"content": "It was based on two false premises. One false premise was that we would be able to cheaply convert the Lotus Elise and use that as a car platform, and that we’ll be able to use technology from this little company called AC Propulsion for the electric drive train and the battery.\nThe problem is, the AC propulsion technology did not work in production, and we ended up using none of it in the long-term. None of it. We had to resign everything.And then once you add a battery pack and electric motor to the car, it got heavier. It got 30% heavier. It invalidated the entire structure, all the crash structure. Everything had to be redone. I think, less than 7% of the parts were common with any other device, including cars or anything.",
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"content": "Okay. Do you feel sometimes that your many business interests might get in the way of you having an opinion? I mean, for example, Tesla has major connections in China. You wouldn’t have a certain opinion on something or feel uncomfortable about saying something because of your other business interests elsewhere?",
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"content": "Do I look uncomfortable? Actually, I do. I look uncomfortable. Yeah. I mean, Tesla’s got activities around the world and so does SpaceX. Once in a while those things do come into conflict, but it’s not like Twitter operates in China. It doesn’t. Twitter is banned in China. So certainly, I’ve received no communication whatsoever from the Chinese government with regard to Twitter.",
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"content": "Okay. In terms of advertising, obviously, Twitter’s not a private company anymore, so we don’t really know how it’s all going. Have all the advertisers come back?",
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"content": "Not all, but most. You can see it for yourself on Twitter, even in the For You feed.",
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"content": "I honestly don’t…",
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"content": "You can’t name a single example?",
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"content": "I’ll tell you why. Because I don’t actually use that For You feed anymore. Because I just don’t particularly like it. Actually a lot of people are quite similar. I only look at my following.",
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"content": "You said you’ve seen more hateful content, but you can’t name a single example. Not even one.",
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"content": "Versus some sort of Ray Kurzweil scenario where they download themselves into a computer?",
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"content": "You will be essentially snapshotted into a computer at any time. If your biological self dies, you could probably just upload into a new unit literally.",
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"content": "Pass that whiskey. We’re getting crazy over here. This is getting ridiculous.",
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"content": "Down the rabbit hole.",
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"content": "So you have been posting up a storm, as you always do, in the past couple weeks about the redesign of the Tesla Roadster coming at the end of this year. Are there any updates that you can talk about to expect from flagship EV? I mean, Tesla stock is down in the last six months. What’s next for the company?",
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"content": "The stocks go up and down, but what really matters is, are we making and delivering great products? The Tesla products are outstanding. Last year the Tesla Model Y was the bestselling car of any kind in the world. So it was about 1.2 million units. It was the bestselling car despite being, I think around 50% more expensive than the next bestselling vehicle, of any kind, not just electric. So I think that’s a testament to the incredible work of the Tesla team. And we launched the Cybertruck. Obviously that’s being very well received. We have I think over a million orders for the Cybertruck. So it’s a really special product. I think the Cybertruck is one of those products that comes along really once in several years, maybe once a decade. The Cybertruck is a once a decade product. It is so special and I think it’s our best product.",
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"content": "But everyone improves over time. I mean Apple, I thought my phone was here, but Apple, the phone got better over time. I’m sure that your cars will get better over time. You have been tweeting about the updates in the Roadsters. Is there something that we should -",
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"content": "Yeah, yeah. So you did mention the Roadsters, so I don’t want to give away much more than what I’ve said publicly, except that the Roadster will be a collaboration between SpaceX and Tesla, so you can expect some rockety stuff there.",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, out of nowhere. That’s what’s crazy. It’s like you go back to November, nothing. Now here we are, December, January, February, March, April, May, six months. Totally different world. So from nothing to, everything’s locked down. There’s so much conflicting information and conflicting opinions about how to proceed. What has happened? You find things where there was a meatpacking plant, I believe in Missouri where 300 plus people were asymptomatic, tested positive asymptomatic.\nThen in other places, it just ravages entire communities and kills people, and it’s so weird. It almost appears, if you didn’t know any better, you’d be like, what? It seems like there’s a bunch of different viruses. It doesn’t seem like it’s the same thing or has a bunch of different reactions to the biological variety of people.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, I kind of saw this whole thing play out in China before it played out in the US. So it’s kind of like watching the same movie again but in English. I think the mortality rate is much less than what the World Health Organization said it was. It’s much, much less. It’s like probably at least an order of magnitude less.",
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"content": "Well, it seems to be very deadly to very specific kinds of people and people with specific problems.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, you can look at the mortality statistics by age and whether they have comorbidities, like do they have basically existing conditions and by age. If you’re below 60 and have no serious health issues, the probability of death is extremely low. It’s not zero, but it’s extremely low.",
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"content": "That’s the main thing.",
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"content": "He’s put you right next to me.",
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"content": "All right. Okay. Just so everyone knows, Elon Musk gave me about 20 minutes’ notice he was also going to go on Twitter Spaces.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s true. Look, this whole thing only came together in a matter of hours. So…",
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"content": "That’s what it’s called, right? It’s like… Jamie, is it called Apex?\nYeah. I got an\nUnplugged Performance S-APEX\n.\nThat’s right. Unplugged Performance. Yeah.",
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"content": "Yeah. You could, for sure, lighten the car up and improve tire traction and…",
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"content": "Have you seen that company’s stuff? What they do?",
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"content": "I don’t know specifically, but there’s…",
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"content": "Yeah, you guys showed the carbon mandrel and everything, and you’re excited about that, but then all of a sudden, we see you switch.",
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"content": "I canceled the carbon fiber design in October last year.",
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"content": "Yeah, so just after that. You know, what people don’t understand is that you’re the lead engineer. You’re literally sit…",
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"content": "Literally. I was actually at dinner with a friend, and he was like, „Well, who’s the chief engineer at SpaceX?“ and I go, „It’s me.“ „No, no,“ he’s like, „It’s not you, who is it?“ Like, okay, it’s either someone with a very low ego or, I don’t know. But, that said, what I actually used to tell the team, was like, „Everyone is a chief engineer.“ This is extremely important. Everyone must understand how, broadly speaking, all the systems in the vehicle work, so you don’t have self-system optimization because this is naturally what happens.\nYou can see the organizational errors…- The product errors reflect the organizational errors. Essentially, you’ll see that there’s an interface at this particular…- Whatever departments you’ve got, that will be where your interfaces are. And instead of getting rid of something or questioning the constraints, the one department will design to the constraints that the other department has given them without calling into question those constraints and saying, „Those constraints are wrong.“ And you should actually take the approach that the constraints that you are given are guaranteed to be some degree wrong because the counterpoint would be that they are perfect.",
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"content": "Right. I have one more question for you. I’m working on a video about aerospikes. It’s going to be about an hour long video on aerospikes and, you know, they’re like the rotary engine of rockets. Like the rotary was… it’s been advantageous in some ways, you know, like your…",
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"content": "Yeah, aerospikes, man, I tell you.",
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"content": "They’re cool but what’s your biggest beef on them? Because I’m trying to get as much insight on, why do you think they aren’t used, and obviously, I assume, you’re not ever going to an aerospike for a lot of reasons. . .",
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"content": "You know, I’ve internally asked this question so many times, like, „Guys, shouldn’t we maybe do an aerospike?“ The challenge…- And you’re going to explain to the audience what an aerospike is?",
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"content": "If you wanted an unvarnished look inside the mind of Elon Musk, I think you just saw it.",
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"content": "Look, sometimes it’s pretty simple.",
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"content": "Elon Musk, thank you very, very much for the conversation.",
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"content": "All right. Thank you.",
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"content": "You can’t. It’s hard to be ‘sat nam’. It’s hard to be ‘namaste’ out here in LA. If you want to hit that Santa Monica Boulevard off-ramp…",
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"content": "I mean, you’ve got to be a little pushy on the freeway.",
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"content": "You’ve got to be a little pushy, yeah, especially when people are angry. If they’re a little angry, they don’t want to let you in; they speed up.",
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"content": "Sometimes, I think, people overall are pretty nice on the highway, even in LA, but sometimes they’re not.",
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"content": "Yeah. I like the idea that Elon Musk, because I was playing Diablo yesterday and I saw Level 100 Druid just run by, I will never die and then run back the other way. And this metaphor, it’s hilarious that you, Elon Musk is restlessly, fighting Hatred in this demonic realm.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "It’s hilarious. I mean it’s pretty hilarious.",
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"content": "No, it’s absurd. Really, it’s exercise and absurdity and it makes me want to pull my hair out.",
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"content": "That’s funny.\nBy the way, we took a SpaceX tour yesterday. It was insane.\nThank you for that. That was amazing. Yeah, it was so good.\nIt’s like Batman’s lair in there.\nThat’s right. It really is amazing.\nBut it gives you perspective on what Tesla’s doing because the technology is so advanced, and there’s interchange of information like the… I know they use the Inconel fuse from SpaceX when they couldn’t get the power output right. It kept burning up the fuse in the performance models. So, now it’s awesome.\nYeah, it’s pretty cool to see the SpaceX tech being applied to Tesla. I think there’s one joint employee between SpaceX and Tesla, and it’s the materials… – is it the materials engineer?\nOr what about Elon?\nIn addition to Elon, because there’s just not that many humans on the planet that know how to do this stuff.\nWell, sounds like back in the old days – was it just Elon doing the coding?\nI mean, I did a little like HTML (… 1:07:21)\nDo you still do any coding, Elon?",
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"content": "Not\nrecently. But you know, we had no money, so couldn’t employ (…1:07:28). So I wrote actually the software.",
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"content": "And you worked through the night, right? You just never slept.\nI mean, we lived in a little office. I think this address was 470 Sherman Way in Palo Alto.\nIt was about the size of this room here.\nYeah, it was probably like 15 feet wide by 30 feet long with a little closet in the back. And we couldn’t afford a place to sleep like a house or home or apartment. So we would sleep in it, and it had a couch that was a futon. We would pull out the futon and take turns sleeping on the futon or the floor. Though he coded a lot of nights, I usually got the futon at night. He had to code it at night because the server, when the internet was live, needed to be functional. And we just had data for the Bay Area at the time. So we were just kind of making sure that the people in the Bay Area could use it.\nAnd then I had a little mini-fridge with a cooking stove on it, and we cooked simple things, you know, like pasta sauce and pasta and things like that. That would be as cheap as dirt. People think it’s expensive to eat real food. It is actually really cheap to cook some vegetables, pasta, and beans – it’s super cheap. And then we would go eat at Jack in the Box, which I can still… I still kind of shiver a little. I haven’t eatenthere for probably 20 years or longer, maybe 22 years, and I can still probably recite the entire menu.",
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"content": "We cycled through the menu. Jack in the Box was like a few blocks away from…",
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"content": "It’s going to be great. But how…",
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"content": "It’s part of SpaceX.",
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"content": "It’s part of SpaceX?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Oh, hell yeah. A lot of the media’s going to hate it because they want to control space and -",
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"content": "It’s totally troll heaving on Twitter. And the thing is, I even get trolled and I’m like, God, why did I get trolled again? That was really dope.",
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"content": "Right? I get trolled every day and it’s like part and parcel of being on Twitter.",
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"content": "Yeah, totally.",
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"content": "Okay, they’re not saying that.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, I would seriously just let it apply.",
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"content": "Because?",
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"content": "What do you think government can do?",
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"content": "Edit it?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "So you can change your past?",
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"content": "You could change what you think was your past. Yeah.",
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"content": "I like the joke that it turns out that if you bombard Earth with photons for long enough, it’ll emit a Tesla.",
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"content": "Exactly. Yeah, that’s exactly what will happen.",
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"content": "Just basic science, guys.\nYeah. They teach you in school.\nSo there’s a lot of Twitter comments coming in about a question that I think is on everyone’s mind, no pun intended. “What is the security of the device look like? What kind of precautions are being taken, and what does the future look like for the security of the system?\nSo, first and foremost, privacy and security are top priorities at Neuralink, especially given the sensitivity of the data that we’re collecting. And one of the things that we’re ensuring is to make sure that a lot of the interactions with the brain data is going to be encrypted and authenticated properly. And I think this has been kind of a sort of recurring theme. But one of the things that we have the ability to do at Neuralink is that we work on every layer of the product, from chip design to source code. And it really gives us a unique opportunity to embed security as part of our design from the get-go and to make sure that there are no single points of failure.\nSo as an example, we can actually completely isolate sensitive modules, like the BLE\n(Bluetooth Low Energy)\nradio, by just segregating it out at the hardware level and really making sure that we protect the IO\n(input/output)\nto the brain away from any potential attacks, and really minimizing the attack surface. And, you know, we have in-house security expertise, and we’re also working with external parties to, you know, do audits and perform penetration testing.\nExcellent. Thank you, DJ.",
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"content": "Actually, is there a point that anybody here wants to make that has not been asked in a question, but you think should be a question? Anyone?",
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"content": "This is a really interesting question. I think the answer is yes. And I think one of the reasons that consciousness is so hard is because, like anything in physics, you’re looking at a mapping from x to y, where x is the neuronal correlates, so the things happening physically, and then y is this phenomenal state. And historically, we’ve been unable to observe the neuronal correlates very well. And unless it’s in you, we’ve been able to observe the phenomenal state. So as soon as you are able to, neuroscientists are able to personally get these tools where they can see the correlates, and they can have the experience, I think the hard problem will vanish very quickly.",
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"content": "What I find remarkable is that the universe started out as like quarks and leptons. We call it like, you know, hydrogen. And then after a long time, well, what seems like a long time to us, the hydrogen became sentient, it gradually got more complex. But we’re basically, you know, hydrogen evolved. And somewhere along the way that hydrogen started talking and thought it was conscious.",
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"content": "I like the joke that it turns out that if you bombard Earth with photons for long enough, it’ll emit a Tesla.",
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"content": "Exactly. Yeah, that’s exactly what will happen.",
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"content": "Yeah. So I get to a certain point, and then I count out, I usually hit the stopwatch on my phone, and then I look at 15 hours, and I’m like, “Oh, okay. Got an hour before I can eat.” And so anything in between that is just water or coffee.",
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"content": "Actually, this may be a useful bit of advice for people, but eating before you go to bed is a really bad idea and actually negatively affects your sleep. And it can actually cause heartburn that you don’t even know is happening, and that subtle heartburn, it affects your sleep because you’re horizontal and your body’s digesting. So if you want to improve the quality of your sleep and be healthier, it’s do not eat right before you go to sleep. It’s one of the worst things you could do.",
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"content": "Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made. I’ve done that, particularly after comedy shows; if I’m starving, I’ll come home, and I’ll eat. And then I go to bed, and I just feel like shit, and I wake up in the middle of the night.",
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"content": "It’s going to crush your sleep, and it’s going to damage your pyloric sphincter and your esophagus. In fact, drinking and then going to sleep, that’s one of the worst things you could do. So just try to avoid drinking and eating…",
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"content": "And people should realize how much is going on under the…",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s just a lot of really talented people. The Tesla Autopilot AI team is extremely talented. It’s like some of the smartest people in the world. So yeah, we’re getting it done.",
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"content": "What are some insights you’ve gained over those five, six years of autopilot about the problem of autonomous driving. So you leaped in having some sort of first principles kinds of intuitions, but nobody knows how difficult the problem…",
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"content": "I thought the self-driving problem would be hard, but it was harder than I thought. It’s not that I thought it’d be easy, I thought it would be very hard, but it was actually way harder than even that. I mean, what it comes down to at the end of the day is to solve self-driving, you basically need to recreate what humans do to drive, which is humans drive with optical sensors, eyes, and biological neural nets.\nThat’s how the entire road system is designed to work: with basically passive optical and neural nets, biologically. So, actually, for full self-driving to work, we have to recreate that in digital form. That means cameras with advanced neural nets in silicon form. And then it will obviously solve for full self-driving. That’s the only way. I don’t think there’s any other way.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "How do you go along for the ride? It’s, like, if you can’t beat them, join them. We’re already a cyborg to some degree, right? Because you’ve got your phone, you’ve got your laptop, your electronic devices. Today, if you don’t bring your phone along, it’s like you have missing limb syndrome. It feels like something’s really missing. We’re already partly a cyborg or an AI symbiote, essentially.\nIt’s just that the data rate to the electronics is slow. Especially output, like you’re just going with your thumbs. I mean, like, what’s your data rate? Optimistically, a hundred bits per second. That’s being generous. Now the computer can communicate at a hundred terabytes. Certainly, you know, gigabits are trivial at this point.\nBasically, your computer could do things a million times faster. At a certain point, it’s like talking to a tree. Okay? This is boring. You talk to a tree – it’s not very entertaining. If you can solve the data rate issue, especially output, but input, too, then you can improve the symbiosis that is already occurring between man and machine.",
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"content": "So, you can improve it – when you said you won’t have to talk to each other anymore. We used to joke around about that. I’ve joked around about that a million times in this podcast that one day in the future, there’s going to come a time where you can read each other’s minds. You’ll be able to interface with each other in some sort of a nonverbal, non-physical way where you will transfer data back and forth to each other without having to actually use your mouth to make noises.",
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"content": "Exactly, so when you… Like what happens when you, let’s say you’ve got some complex idea that you’re trying to convey to somebody else, and how do you do that? Well, your brain spends a lot of effort compressing a complex concept into words, and there’s a lot of loss, information loss that occurs when compressing a complex concept into words. Then you say those words, and those words are then interpreted, then they’re decompressed by the person who is listening. They will, at best, get a very incomplete understanding of what you’re trying to convey. It’s very difficult to convey a complex concept with precision because you’ve got compression, decompression, you may not even have heard all the words correctly and so communication is difficult. What we have here is a failure to communicate.\nCool Hand Luke\n.",
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"content": "But you were willing to bet the farm, so to speak, on this?",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, I figured I was willing to spend half the money that I got from PayPal with no expectation of return. Because I thought this was just something that was pretty important, and yeah, it seemed like I could spend half the money I made on PayPal on this, and if that got NASA a bigger budget and resulted in us going to Mars, that would be a pretty good outcome.",
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"content": "And when your friends or your family came up to you and said, look, there’s nations that can’t do this. You’re a guy. I mean, you have some resources; what did you say or do or think?",
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"content": "I had a lot of friends of mine try to talk me out of starting a rocket company because they thought it was crazy. And one friend of mine made me watch a video of rockets blowing up. And there were just lots of people that thought it was a really crazy idea. And there were some people that had tried to start rocket companies, not succeeded. And they tried to talk me out of it. But the thing is that – their premise for talking me out of it was, well, we think you’re going to lose the money that you invest. I was like, well, that was my expectation anyway, so I don’t really mind if I lose… – I mean, I mind, but I mean it’s not like I was trying to figure out the rank-ordered best way to invest money and on that basis chose space. It’s not like that I thought, wow…",
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"content": "That’s where it gets spooky, right? The idea that it can do thousands of years of innovation very, very quickly.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "And then we’ll be just ridiculous.",
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"content": "Ridiculous.",
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"content": "Just brilliant engineering. Let me ask a slightly philosophical fun question. Gotta ask. I know you’re focused on getting to Mars. But once we’re there on Mars, what form of government, economic system, political system, do you think would work best for an early civilization of humans? I mean, the interesting reason to talk about this stuff it also may help people dream about the future. I know you’re really focused about the short-term engineering dream, but it’s like, I don’t know, there’s something about imagining an actual civilization on Mars. That really gives people hope.",
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"content": "Well, it would be a new frontier and an opportunity to rethink the whole nature of government, just as was done in the creation of the United States. I would suggest having a direct democracy, like people vote directly on things as opposed to representative democracy. Representative democracy, I think, is subject to a special interest and, you know, a coercion of the politicians and that kind of thing. So, I recommend that there’s just direct democracy. People vote on laws, the population votes on laws themselves, and then the laws must be short enough that people can understand them.",
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"content": "Yeah, and then, like, keeping a well-informed populace, like really being transparent about all the information, about what they’re voting for.",
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"content": "Yeah, absolute transparency.",
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"content": "I’ll grab it. Hold on. (\npasses Elon the sword\n) Yeah, that’s a legit samurai sword from an actual samurai from the 1500s. If you pull out that blade, that blade was made the old way where a master craftsman…",
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"content": "Folded metal?",
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"content": "…folded that metal and hammered it down over and over again over a long period of time, and honed that blade into what it is now. What’s crazy is that more than 500 years later, that thing is still pristine. I mean, whoever took care of that and passed it down to the next person who took care of it, and you know until it got to the podcast room, it’s pretty fucking crazy.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "One related thing on this and the leverage of countries and things over you and regulators. X is this free-speech platform. You do business in China, lots of business in China. That’s an important part of your business, I imagine.",
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"content": "Well, it’s not SpaceX.",
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"content": "How do you think about the leverage that the Chinese have over you, and do they have leverage over you? And how do you feel about, some people would say, is it hypocritical for you to be doing business in China, or frankly in other countries as it relates to X and other things that don’t follow this free speech path that you have espoused?",
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"content": "The best that the X platform can do is adhere to the laws of any given country. Do you think there’s something more we could do than that?",
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"content": "Yeah, actually, if you don’t mind me taking a tiny tangent. I often talk to Jim Keller, who’s somebody that worked with you as a…",
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"content": "Oh, yeah. Jim did great work at Tesla.",
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"content": "So, I suppose he carries the flame of the same kind of thinking that you’re talking about now. And I guess I see that same thing at Tesla and SpaceX. Folks who worked there, they kind of learned this way of thinking, and it kind of becomes obvious almost. But anyway, I had an argument – not argument; he educated me – about how cheap it might be to manufacture a Tesla bot. We had an argument, how can you reduce the cost at scale of producing a robot?\nBecause so far I’ve gotten the chance to interact quite a bit, obviously, in the academic circles with humanoid robots, and then Boston Dynamics and stuff like that, and they’re very expensive to build. And then Jim kind of schooled me on saying like, okay, like this kind of first principles thinking of how can we get the cost of manufacturing down. I suppose you have done that kind of thinking for Tesla Bot and for all kinds of complex systems that are traditionally seen as complex. And you say, “Okay, how can we simplify everything down?”",
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"content": "Yeah, I think if you are really good at manufacturing, at high volume you can basically make anything for a cost that asymptotically approaches the raw material value of the constituents, plus any intellectual property that you need to license. Anything.",
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"content": "What’s your hunch? I mean, you’ve obviously-",
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"content": "I think it’s going to swim.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’ll swim just fine.",
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"content": "But I guess, look, do you have any regrets buying Twitter?",
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"content": "I think it was something that needed to be done.",
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"content": "You said that you-",
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"content": "It’s been quite difficult. I’d say the pain level of Twitter has been extremely high. This hasn’t been some sort of party, so it’s been really quite a stressful situation for the last several months. Not an easy one, but apart from the pain… So it’s been quite painful, but I think at the end the day it should have been done. I think were there many mistakes made along the way? Of course, but all’s well that ends well. And so I feel like we’re headed to a good place. We’re roughly breakeven, I think we’re trending towards being cash flow positive very soon, literally in a matter of months. The advertisers are returning. I think the quality of recommended tweets has improved significantly, and we’ve taken a lot of feedback from people that have looked at the open source recommendation algorithm, and we’ve made a lot of improvements even since that was made open source and we’re going to keep doing that. So overall, I think the trend is very good.",
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"content": "Right. Well, I don’t know how you do what you do anyway. I don’t understand how you can run The Boring Company, Tesla, SpaceX, all these different things you’re doing constantly. I don’t understand. I mean, you explained last time you were here how you sort of allocate your time and how hectic it is and insane. I still don’t… the productivity is baffling. It just doesn’t make sense how you can get so much done.",
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"content": "Well, I think I do have high productivity, but even with that, there’s still some opportunity cost of time and allocating time to building a house, even if it was a really great house, it still is not a good use of time relative to developing the rockets necessary to get us to Mars and helping solve sustainable energy. SpaceX and Tesla are by far the most amount of brain cycles. The Boring Company does not take… it’s like less than 1% of brain cycles. And then Neuralink, which is, I don’t know, maybe it’s like 5% and then…",
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"content": "5%? That’s a good chunk.",
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"content": "It’s a good chunk. Yeah.",
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"content": "Is there a concern about someone just losing their mind and making it do that on the highway?",
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"content": "No, it won’t do that.",
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"content": "What if it’s in bumper-to-bumper traffic?",
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"content": "Nope.",
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"content": "I thought that was the sped-up version. But I mean, that’s amazing, and several of these failed before you finally figured out how to do it, but now you’ve done this, what, five or six times?",
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"content": "I think we’re at eight or nine.",
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"content": "And for the first time, you’ve actually reflown one of the rockets that landed.",
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"content": "Yeah, we landed the rocket booster and then prepped it for flight again and flew it again, so it’s the first reflight of an orbital booster where that reflight is relevant. It’s important to appreciate that reusability is only relevant if it is rapid and complete. Like an aircraft or a car, the reusability is rapid and complete. You do not send your aircraft to Boeing in-between flights.",
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"content": "Do you think that’s definitely where we’re going?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Yeah, I don’t think so either. I used to think so. And, now, I’m thinking more likely less than ever. Like almost every day less likely.",
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"content": "We can definitely go to the moon and Mars.",
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"content": "You can kind of keep it-",
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"content": "Yeah, right. This is…",
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"content": "Yeah, about around that. Around that.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "How do you go along for the ride? It’s, like, if you can’t beat them, join them. We’re already a cyborg to some degree, right? Because you’ve got your phone, you’ve got your laptop, your electronic devices. Today, if you don’t bring your phone along, it’s like you have missing limb syndrome. It feels like something’s really missing. We’re already partly a cyborg or an AI symbiote, essentially.\nIt’s just that the data rate to the electronics is slow. Especially output, like you’re just going with your thumbs. I mean, like, what’s your data rate? Optimistically, a hundred bits per second. That’s being generous. Now the computer can communicate at a hundred terabytes. Certainly, you know, gigabits are trivial at this point.\nBasically, your computer could do things a million times faster. At a certain point, it’s like talking to a tree. Okay? This is boring. You talk to a tree – it’s not very entertaining. If you can solve the data rate issue, especially output, but input, too, then you can improve the symbiosis that is already occurring between man and machine.",
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"content": "So, you can improve it – when you said you won’t have to talk to each other anymore. We used to joke around about that. I’ve joked around about that a million times in this podcast that one day in the future, there’s going to come a time where you can read each other’s minds. You’ll be able to interface with each other in some sort of a nonverbal, non-physical way where you will transfer data back and forth to each other without having to actually use your mouth to make noises.",
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"content": "Exactly, so when you… Like what happens when you, let’s say you’ve got some complex idea that you’re trying to convey to somebody else, and how do you do that? Well, your brain spends a lot of effort compressing a complex concept into words, and there’s a lot of loss, information loss that occurs when compressing a complex concept into words. Then you say those words, and those words are then interpreted, then they’re decompressed by the person who is listening. They will, at best, get a very incomplete understanding of what you’re trying to convey. It’s very difficult to convey a complex concept with precision because you’ve got compression, decompression, you may not even have heard all the words correctly and so communication is difficult. What we have here is a failure to communicate.\nCool Hand Luke\n.",
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"content": "So, for people that somehow don’t know, it’s the all civilian, first time all civilian out to space, out to orbit.",
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"content": "Yeah, it was, I think, the highest orbit that in like, I don’t know, 30 or 40 years or something. The only one that was higher was this one shuttle, sorry, a Hubble servicing mission. And then, before that, it would have been Apollo in 72. It’s pretty wild. So it’s cool. It’s good. I think as a species, we want to be continuing to do better and reach higher ground. I think it would be tragic, extremely tragic, if Apollo was the high watermark for humanity, and that’s as far as we ever got. It’s concerning that here we are 49 years after the last mission to the Moon – so almost half a century. And we’ve not been back. That’s worrying; it’s like, does that mean we’ve peaked as a civilization or what?\nSo I think we got to get back to the Moon and build a base there, a science base. I think we could learn a lot about the nature of the universe if we have a proper science base on the Moon. We have a science base in Antarctica and many other parts of the world. So that’s what I think the next big thing we’ve got to have like a serious Moonbase. And then get people to Mars and get out there and be a spacefaring civilization.",
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"content": "I’ll ask you about some of those details. But, since you’re so busy with the hard engineering challenges of everything that’s involved, are you still able to marvel at the magic of it all, of space travel, of every time the rocket goes up, especially when it’s a crewed mission? Or are you just so overwhelmed with all the challenges that you have to solve?\nAnd actually, sort of to add to that, the reason I want to ask this question of May 30\nth\n– it’s been some time, so you can look back and think about the impact already. At the time, it was an engineering problem maybe, now it’s becoming a historic moment. Like, it’s a moment that – how many moments will be remembered about the 21st century? To me, that or something like that, maybe Inspiration4, one of those, will be remembered as the early steps of a new age of space exploration.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, during the launches itself,… I think maybe some people will know, but a lot of people don’t know, like, I’m actually the chief engineer of SpaceX. So I’ve signed off on pretty much all the design decisions. So if there’s something that goes wrong with that vehicle, it’s fundamentally my fault. So I’m really just thinking about all the things that… When I see the rocket, I see all the things that could go wrong, and the things that could be better, and the same with the Dragon spacecraft. Other people say, “Oh, this is a spacecraft or a rocket.” and “That looks really cool.” I’m like, I’ve like a readout of these are the risks, these are the problems. That’s what I see. It’s not what other people see when they see the product.",
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"content": "Is there a concern about someone just losing their mind and making it do that on the highway?",
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"content": "No, it won’t do that.",
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"content": "What if it’s in bumper-to-bumper traffic?",
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"content": "Nope.",
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"content": "Yeah. It’s just you think of them differently when you see them come out and then grow and then eventually start talking to you, like your whole idea what a baby is, is very different.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Now, as you get older and get to appreciate it as a mature, fully formed adult, it must be really pretty wonderful.",
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"content": "Yeah. Great. Wonderful. It’s great. But babies are awesome. Yeah, it’s great. Also, I’ve spent a lot of time on AI and neural nets and so you can sort of see the brain develop, which is … An AI neural net is trying to simulate what a brain does, basically. You can sort of see it learning very quickly. You know, it’s just wow.",
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"content": "Do you think that perhaps productivity is maybe more attractive to you than enlightenment or even the concept of whatever enlightenment means. Like, what are you trying to achieve when you’re meditating all the time? With you, it seems almost like there’s a franticness to your creativity that comes out of this burning furnace. And in order for you to calm that thing down, you might have to throw too much water on it.",
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"content": "It’s like a never-ending explosion.",
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"content": "What is it like? Try to explain it to a dumb person like me. What’s going on?",
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"content": "Never-ending explosion.",
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"content": "Yeah. What’s the hardest part?",
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"content": "It might sound great if it’s turned on, but what if it doesn’t turn off?",
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"content": "Now, I showed you the\nisolation tank\n, and you’ve never experienced that before. I think that could help you turn it off a little bit just for the night.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "So you have hope that Neuralink will be able to be a kind of connection to allow us to merge, to ride the wave of the improving A.I. systems?",
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"content": "I think the chance is above 0%.",
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"content": "So it’s non-zero?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Do you have an app that works with your solar panels or anything like that?",
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"content": "Yeah, we do.But we need to hook it into the air conditioning to really make the air conditioning work.",
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"content": "Have you thought about creating an air conditioning system? I know you have. Trick question.",
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"content": "Cannot answer questions about the future of potential products.",
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"content": "You are?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Is that wise? What kind of video games? Candy Crush?",
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"content": "You won’t be able to drive while you’re playing the video game. But, like, for example, we’re just putting the Atari emulator in it. So, we’ll play a Missile Command, and Lunar Lander, and a bunch of other things. Yeah.",
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"content": "No. But you said, “My mind is a storm. I don’t think most people would want to be me. They may think they want to be me, but they don’t know. They don’t understand.” What did you mean by that? Your mind being a storm. I have known you for quite some time, I think it is a bit of a storm.",
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"content": "Yes. Yeah. It as much as a weather metaphor makes sense. My mind often feels like a very wild storm. I have a fountain of ideas. I have more ideas than I could possibly execute, so I have no shortage of ideas. Innovation is not the problem. Execution is the problem. I’ve got a million ideas. I’ve got an entire design for an electric supersonic vertical takeoff jet, but if I just can’t do that as well. I’ve had that for 10 years. There’s a million things.",
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"content": "Is your storm a happy storm?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "There is?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "I’m going to take notes.",
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"content": "Does Gong know about it? No. He probably will go to Brave New World.\nWe got to ask it.",
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"content": "And then, we’re going to wonder like, „Why are we here? What are we doing?“",
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"content": "Let’s find out.",
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"content": "Well-",
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"content": "I mean, I think we should take the actions, the set of actions that are most likely to make the future better.",
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"content": "Glad that you’ve enjoyed it.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s like a ride. I mean, I think you could take money for this. This is great. It really makes a difference to have these two screens and those angle changes. That felt great, like a Disney ride.\nMathias Döpfner: Elon, apart from this special trip to Mars this evening, when do you think, realistically, human beings will land on Mars for the first time.\nI feel fairly confident about six years from now. The Earth-Mars-synchronization occurs roughly every 26 months. We had one this year, the summer, and that means in roughly about two years, there will be another one, and then two years after that. I think six years from now, I’m highly confident if we get lucky, maybe four years, and then we want to try to send an uncrewed vehicle there in two years.",
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"content": "When will your first trip to orbit take place?",
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"content": "I don’t know. Possibly in two or three years. I am (… 12:38) concerned with developing the technology that can enable a lot of people to go to Mars and make life multi-planetary and have a base on the Moon, a city on Mars. I think it’s important that we strive to have a self-sustaining city on Mars as soon as possible. I mean, I’m optimistic about the future on Earth, but it’s important to have life insurance for life as a whole.",
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"content": "Flawed?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Flawed perception.",
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"content": "Like that, if you have that, sort of, that Vive you have, that’s made by\nValve\n, and it’s really Valve that made it. HTC did the hardware, but it’s really a Valve thing.",
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"content": "Ripping your nuts off is an interesting strategy for interaction.",
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"content": "It’s happened to people. It’s unfortunate. That’s, I guess, one way to ensure that the other chimp doesn’t contribute to the gene pool.",
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"content": "Well, from a martial arts perspective is the fascinating strategy.",
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"content": "The nut rougher.",
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"content": "It could be.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "It may be. What’s the odds of this being a replayed memory? If you had a guess. More than 50%?",
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"content": "There’s no way to assign a probability with accuracy here.",
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"content": "Are you leaning towards anyone?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "You’re not leaning towards anyone, because you’ve been-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I’m leaning away from Biden.",
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"content": "And I think there is some true objective understanding of the immune system and the ways to boost that immune system. And I really think that information should be distributed in a way, a nonjudgmental way, but like, “Look, this is a scientifically proven way that we can boost our immune system and it might save your life, and it might save the life of your loved ones.” And maybe we could teach this to our grandparents and our parents and people that are vulnerable. Vitamin C, heat shock proteins, all these different variables that we know contribute to a stronger immune system.",
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"content": "Yeah. Actually, just a thing that is tough. As you get older, you tend to put on weight; certainly, that’s happening with me. The older I get, like, “Damn, sure harder to stay lean.” That’s for sure. And so, actually, being overweight is a big deal. It’s a fact. Yeah.",
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"content": "The New York hospital said it was the number one factor for severe Covid symptoms was obesity. That was the number one factor.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "That’s correct. It is, yes, exactly.",
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"content": "Dr. Wöhrmann – thank you very much – of DWS.\nDr. Asoka Wöhrmann, CEO DWS Group\nThank you. DWS is an investing company in big companies around the world. But I want to say, I want to congratulate that you have chosen Germany for this Giga factory. I think you have might be looking to the engineering space. It’s a big culture in Germany. I have to say that I’m not native German, but I grew up here, and this is a really big culture for automobile industry. And that you came to Germany is impressive for me. But one thing what I learned…",
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"content": "Yeah, I love Germany, it’s great.",
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"content": "Yeah, it might be we have more time to talk at a later stage. But one thing what I would like to also learn today from you is not to be engineer but to think like a physician. Now. This is important, I think. I have four young children. So, I have to advise them now a little bit differently.",
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"content": "Great. I think people should have more kids. Seriously. I mean, people don’t have humans. Where are the humans coming from? You have to make them somehow. Take a long time to bring up.",
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"content": "Talking about a narrative for the rest.",
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"content": "I was just asked, “Do you want to die on Mars?” And I was like, “Well, I suppose if you’re going to pick Earth or Mars, I’m like, it’d be cool to like be born on Earth and die on Mars.” I’m not like trying to make a beeline to Mars and just, you know, die or something. It’s just that if I got to pick one, you’re gonna die somewhere. Sure. On Mars.",
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"content": "I’ve interviewed a lot of …. uh, I guess they’re biologists, they’re worried about essentially… they said you have to be under the earth, a couple 100 feet?",
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"content": "No, no, no. Definitely not a couple hundred. You know, first of all, half the time, you’re shielded by Mars itself. Half the radiation is just the planet shielding you. And then you want maybe have like, I don’t know, three feet of dirt ish on the roof or just a kind of a thick roof. They’ll be fine.",
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"content": "You did very well. What do you think?",
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"content": "No, I’m right. So yeah, no, look, here’s the thing. Physics is unforgiving. Physics is unforgiving. I have these various little sayings that I’ve come up with, that physics is the law and everything else is a recommendation.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "In the sense that you can break any law made by humans, but try breaking a law made by physics. That’s much more difficult. So if you are wrong and persist in being wrong, the rockets will blow up and the cars will fail. So we’re not trying to figure out what flavor of ice cream is the best flavor of ice cream. There’s 1,000 things that can happen on a rocket flight, and only one of them gets the rocket to orbit. And so being wrong results in failure when dealing with physical objects.",
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"content": "I want to ask you about, there’s a federal government, EOC, they’re also currently involved in a lawsuit against Tesla that alleges that there is a history of widespread racial harassment against black Tesla employees as well as a pattern of retaliation for speaking out. What do you say to that?",
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"content": "Well, I don’t believe that is true. I think we’ve got a very good… If you walk around the Tesla Fremont plant, I think it’s a very good atmosphere. In fact, I practically lived there for\n… for three years trying to make the production work.",
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"content": "Were you aware of such behavior?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I never saw it.",
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"content": "Okay. Did you get a seal of approval?",
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"content": "Exactly. Seal of approval. No, I mean I don’t think the public is quite aware of the madness that goes on.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yeah. Yeah. It’s absurd.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Fricking seals with fricking headphones.",
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"content": "Should we do some of the say.com questions?Okay. Should we do the second one?",
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"content": "Yeah. The first one, I think we already answered. If we’re able to make enough cells, which we’ll try to do, we will supply other companies. It’s definitely not an intentional effort to keep the cells to ourselves. If we can make enough for other companies, we will supply them. And we were trying to do the right thing for advancing the sustainable energy, whatever that is.\nVehicle to grid\n– we get asked that a lot. I think one of the things that’s important to note is, vehicle to grid, unless you have a power cutoff, you need to cut off your main supply to the grid. Otherwise, if you lose the power in your house, you’ll basically just backflow energy to the grid. So just having a reversal in the power flow does not actually keep the lights on. You need a whole separate system to cut off power to the grid.\nAnd I think there’s also the case that people really want the freedom to be able to drive and to charge at their house. And it’s obviously very problematic if you get to morning and your car, instead of being charged, it discharged into the house, and then you’re sort of, “Okay, now I can either drive or use the battery to power my house.”\nI think it’s actually going to be better for people’s freedom of action to have a power wall and a car separate, and then everything works. You basically combine that with solar, either solar retrofit or\nsolar glass roof\n, and local battery storage, so you basically become your own utility. And then the car can be charged also with solar. I think that’s the stuff that works. That said, we can certainly do vehicle to grid; I think we can basically enable that with software in Europe or something, right?",
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"content": "Yeah. Future generations of power electronics, we will be able to do this more or less everywhere, from an energy market participation perspective. But from a backing up the house, it just so happens that the way the North American connectors are – on all the cars in North America, it doesn’t matter whether it’s the Tesla connector or the connector that the other vehicles have – doesn’t actually support powering your home. It’s unfortunate. So, you’d need an additional hardware to do that.\nBut yeah, in the future, all versions of our vehicles will be able to at least do bi-directional power flow for the purposes of energy market participation. But even for that, it’s important to remember that your car isn’t plugged in 24/7, so it’s kind of an unpredictable resource for the grid. It’ll have a value, but it’s not the same as a stationary battery pack.",
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"content": "Yeah. Honestly, a vehicle to grid sounds good, but I think it actually has a much lower utility than people think. I think very few people would actually use vehicle to grid. With the original roadster, we had vehicle-to-grid capabilities – nobody used it.\nA speaker in the audience:\n[inaudible]",
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"content": "They do a lot of their — They do some of their driver training school on these frozen surfaces. So, you’re just — The car is going sideways whether you like it or not. And you have to learn how to slide into corners and how to adjust.",
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"content": "Yeah. Electric cars have really great traction control because the reaction time is so fast.So, with a gasoline car, you’ve got a lot of latency. It takes a while for the engine to react, but for electric motors, incredibly precise. That’s why you’re like — You imagine like if you had like a printer or something, you wouldn’t have a gasoline engine printer. That would be pretty weird. Or like a surgical device, it’s going to be an electric motor on the surgical device, on the printer. Gasoline engine’s going to be just chugging away. It’s not going to have the reaction time.\nBut to an electric motor, it’s operating at the millisecond level. So, it can turn on and off traction within, like, inches of getting on the onus like, let’s say, you’re driving on a patch of ice, it will turn traction off, and then turn it on a couple of inches right after the ice, like a little patch of ice because in the frame of the electric motor, you’re moving incredibly slowly. You’re like a — you’re a snail. You’re just moving so slowly because it can see at a thousand frames a second. And so, it’s like, say ‘one Mississippi’, it just thought about at things a thousand times.",
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"content": "So, it has realized that your wheels are not getting traction. It understands there’s some slippery surface that you’re driving on.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "You like it?",
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"content": "Yeah, “Rick and Morty” is awesome.",
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"content": "Somebody that’s exactly like you from an alternate dimension showed up there. Elon Tusk…",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s right.",
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"content": "It does sound corny.",
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"content": "But love is the answer.",
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"content": "It is the answer.",
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"content": "Yup.",
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"content": "Oh yeah? Beautiful.",
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"content": "Yes, Space X in McGregor. It’s about 15 minutes away from Waco.",
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"content": "That’s close to where Ted Nugent lives.",
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"content": "It is?",
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"content": "Back then. Today everybody is super nice.",
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"content": "Oh, no, super-nice, I would not say, no. It’s difficult to characterize their responses as super nice. They used a lot of adjectives. I don’t think that any of them were positive. We really tried hard to convince a lot of companies. Honestly, I was in so many panels, but generally, the sentiment that was expressed that you mentioned earlier was pretty much universal. Especially back in 2008 or 2007, like when we first unveiled the Roadster in 2007. I mean basically they just said, well, you are basically a bunch of fools. Generally, they were saying like who’s starting a car company is crazy, you’re going to lose all your money. I was like, I think I probably will lose all my money, I agree, it isn’t like that I thought it would be successful. I thought we had maybe a 10% chance of success. So, then people would say it’s going to fail, you’re going to lose everything. And I was like, yeah, probably true, what else is new?",
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"content": "A couple of years ago, we saw each other in America. A guy asked you on a panel when autonomous driving will be approved, and you said I do not care so much when it is going to be approved. I care more when human beings in cars will be forbidden. And then the guy said, this is unrealistic; this is never going to happen. In cars, people want to do something actively. And then you said, well, a hundred years ago nobody could imagine an elevator without a lift boy. Today nobody could imagine a lift with a lift boy. So, when is autonomous driving really, really going to happen and when are you able to do it, and when is it going to be approved?",
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"content": "Okay, just between us?",
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"content": "But that’s what I was talking about earlier about that little car that I have, the ’93 911. It’s not fast. It’s not the best handling car, but it’s more satisfying than any other car I have because it’s so mechanical. It’s like everything about it, like crack holes and bumps, and it gives you all this feedback. And I take it to the\nComedy Store\nbecause when I get there, I feel like my brain is just popping, and it’s on fire. It’s like a strategy for me now that I really stop driving other cars there. I drive that car there just for the brain juice, just for the interaction.",
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"content": "I mean, you should try Model S P100D.",
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"content": "I’ll try it.",
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"content": "It will blow your mind and your skull.",
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"content": "You’re confident with Tesla you can create the world’s best toaster …",
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"content": "The world’s best toaster, yes. The world’s best self-driving… yes, to me right now, this seems game, set, and match. I mean, I don’t want us to be complacent or over-confident, but that’s what it, that is just literally how it appears right now, I could be wrong, but it appears to be the case that Tesla is vastly ahead of everyone.",
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"content": "Do you think we will ever create an AI system that we can love and loves us back in a deep, meaningful way, like in the movie ‚Her‘?",
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"content": "I think AI will be capable of convincing you to fall in love with it very well.",
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"content": "… that you drop in that hole in the ground. There’s a sled on it, and the sled goes very fast, like 100 miles an hour plus.",
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"content": "Yeah, it can go real fast. You can go as fast as you want. And then, if you want to go long distances, you can just draw the air out of the tunnel, make sure it’s real straight.",
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"content": "Draw the air out of the tunnel?",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s sort of vacuum tunnel because the — And then, depending on how fast you want to go, you (… 1:13:15) these wheels, or you could use air bearings depending upon the ambient pressure in the tunnel, or you could maglev it if you want to go super fast.",
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"content": "They do a lot of their — They do some of their driver training school on these frozen surfaces. So, you’re just — The car is going sideways whether you like it or not. And you have to learn how to slide into corners and how to adjust.",
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"content": "Yeah. Electric cars have really great traction control because the reaction time is so fast.So, with a gasoline car, you’ve got a lot of latency. It takes a while for the engine to react, but for electric motors, incredibly precise. That’s why you’re like — You imagine like if you had like a printer or something, you wouldn’t have a gasoline engine printer. That would be pretty weird. Or like a surgical device, it’s going to be an electric motor on the surgical device, on the printer. Gasoline engine’s going to be just chugging away. It’s not going to have the reaction time.\nBut to an electric motor, it’s operating at the millisecond level. So, it can turn on and off traction within, like, inches of getting on the onus like, let’s say, you’re driving on a patch of ice, it will turn traction off, and then turn it on a couple of inches right after the ice, like a little patch of ice because in the frame of the electric motor, you’re moving incredibly slowly. You’re like a — you’re a snail. You’re just moving so slowly because it can see at a thousand frames a second. And so, it’s like, say ‘one Mississippi’, it just thought about at things a thousand times.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "So, it has realized that your wheels are not getting traction. It understands there’s some slippery surface that you’re driving on.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Yeah. And actually, we had good calls; they’re all motivated. I think they’ve been sort of sitting back being like, “Are you going to grow like crazy?” And we’re like, “Yeah, we’re going to grow like crazy.” And then I think this indicates we’re going to grow like crazy, and that’s what the miners want to hear, and then they’ll go make the investments.\nHello, Elon. This is Ben Limpic, I’m a musician. I was wondering, does Tesla have any future plans to make partnerships with music companies, like it has done with Tencent games or things like that, for you guys to actually kind of expand your services for artists and other types of creative people, to get involved in producing content that can be part of the Tesla ecosystem or so other people that do creative things can get involved with you guys?",
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"content": "We haven’t really thought about it that much, but I suppose it’s probably something we should think about. We will be providing TIDAL on the Teslas. So we’re providing more music sources that people can choose from and just generally trying to improve the entertainment experience in the cars. And I think actually, as we go to a more autonomous future, the importance of entertainment and productivity will become greater and greater.\nI mean, to the degree that if you’re just basically sitting in your car, the car is fully autonomous and driving somewhere, the car is essentially your chauffeur, and then the things that become important are, okay, well, let’s have good entertainment, and if you want to do some productivity stuff, then that actually starts to become much more important because you’re no longer spending your attention driving the car. So it will be extremely important in the future.",
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"content": "Should we do some of the say.com questions?Okay. Should we do the second one?",
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"content": "Yeah. The first one, I think we already answered. If we’re able to make enough cells, which we’ll try to do, we will supply other companies. It’s definitely not an intentional effort to keep the cells to ourselves. If we can make enough for other companies, we will supply them. And we were trying to do the right thing for advancing the sustainable energy, whatever that is.\nVehicle to grid\n– we get asked that a lot. I think one of the things that’s important to note is, vehicle to grid, unless you have a power cutoff, you need to cut off your main supply to the grid. Otherwise, if you lose the power in your house, you’ll basically just backflow energy to the grid. So just having a reversal in the power flow does not actually keep the lights on. You need a whole separate system to cut off power to the grid.\nAnd I think there’s also the case that people really want the freedom to be able to drive and to charge at their house. And it’s obviously very problematic if you get to morning and your car, instead of being charged, it discharged into the house, and then you’re sort of, “Okay, now I can either drive or use the battery to power my house.”\nI think it’s actually going to be better for people’s freedom of action to have a power wall and a car separate, and then everything works. You basically combine that with solar, either solar retrofit or\nsolar glass roof\n, and local battery storage, so you basically become your own utility. And then the car can be charged also with solar. I think that’s the stuff that works. That said, we can certainly do vehicle to grid; I think we can basically enable that with software in Europe or something, right?",
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"content": "Did you have a moment where – is this something that this idea of getting rid of your material possessions – is it something that built up over time, or did you have a moment of realization where you realized that.",
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"content": "Yeah, I’ve been thinking about it for a while. You know, part of it is I have a bunch of houses, but I don’t spend a lot of time in most of them. That doesn’t seem like a good use of assets. Somebody could probably be enjoying those houses and get better use of them than me.",
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"content": "Don’t you have Gene Wilder’s house?",
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"content": "I do.",
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"content": "There’s something about Texas that’s very enticing because of that. It is dangerous, but it’s also free.",
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"content": "Right. I kind of like Texas, actually.",
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"content": "I prefer it over places that are more restrictive but more liberal because you could always be liberal. Like just because things are free and just because you have a certain amount of, you know, right-wing type characters, it doesn’t mean you have to be that way, you know.And, honestly, there’s a lot of those people that are pretty fucking open-minded and let you do whatever you want to do. As long as you don’t bother them.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah, exactly.",
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{
"content": "Right.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "But one thing is for sure. We will not control it.",
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"content": "Do you think that it’s likely that we will merge somehow or another with this sort of technology and it will augment what we are now, or do you think it will replace us?",
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"content": "The emerge scenario with A.I. is the one that seems like probably the best.",
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"content": "There’s so much math in Diablo that breaks my brain.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s math nonstop.",
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"content": "I mean, really, you’re laughing at it, but it can put a huge amount of tension on a mind.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes, it can be definitely stressful at times.",
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"content": "But both of them.",
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"content": "Yes. The word neural net comes from the brain. It’s like a net of neurons. Humans are the original gangster of the neural net.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "That’s a great way to put it.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Why?",
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"content": "Well, I take it back. It depends on who. I suppose if I was confident that they would rigorously pursue the truth, then I guess I would be glad to hand it off to someone else. I don’t care about the money, really, but I do want to have some source of truth that I can count on. And I hope that’s our aspiration with Twitter, is to have a source of truth that you can count on. But it’s also real time. It’s an immediate source of truth that you can count on and that gets more accurate with time as people comment on a particular thing.",
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"content": "Well, if you don’t care about the money, you could just give it to someone that you think is a good person to run Twitter.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Who do you think that might be?",
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"content": "…thanks. Yeah, it is good. This is just inevitable. Again, going back to your when you decided to have this fatalistic viewpoint. So, you tried to warn people, you talked about this pretty extensively. I’ve read several interviews where you talked about this. And then you just sort of just said, ‘okay, it just is’. And, in a way, by communicating the potential for… – I mean, for sure you’re getting the warning out to some people.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, I was really going on the warning quite a lot. I was warning everyone I could. Even met with Obama, just for one reason.",
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"content": "Just to talk about A.I.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "And did you all think that PayPal was just going to be a simple, little internet way to… or did you think it was going to turn into the major kind of transaction processing engine that it is right now?",
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"content": "I didn’t expect PayPal’s growth rate to be what it was. And that actually created major problems. We started PayPal on University Avenue. After the first month or so of the website being active, we had 100,000 customers.",
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"content": "Really? That fast. Wow, I didn’t realize it was…",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah, it was nutty.",
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